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In this episode of Breaking Bond,we'll be talking about nineteen sixty seven's You
Only Live Twice, starring Sean Conneryas James Bond, Akiko Wakabayashi as a
Key, Tsiro Tanba as Tiger,Tanaka Mihama as Kissi Suzuki, Donald Pleasants
as Ernest stavro Blofeld. Directed byLewis Gilbert and weirdly I keep saying weirdly
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screenplay by Rouald Dahl. But firsta word from our sponsor. Welcome into
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film ever made. With no firsthandknowledge of the books and little to no
experience with the films, we areexcited to finally fleshed out the missing context
surrounding this pop culture icon and seewhat, if anything, we've been missing.
My name is David C. Robertson, and I'm Bethany Robertson. Hey,
Bethany Robertson, Hey, we havea special guest on the show.
To yay, I'm excited about it. Who isn't it is your sister.
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Oh, Christianna Trainer right by.I thought it was it would be interesting
to have Christie on the show,because how long have you lived in Japan?
Christie? It will be five yearson July twenty seventh. I thought
you were going to ask me howlong I've known her? No, why
would I ask you how long you'veknown your sister? I thought it would
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be good to have her on theshow because how long have you known her?
Now, I thought you were makinga bad yoke. No, no,
no, you were asking an importantquestion. Or it could have been
like if I had, like Loki, been like for like trying to figure
out how old your family members arebecause I've forgotten. Yeah, Like that
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would have been a pretty good likeI'm just like an old married guy.
I'm going to make a bad jokeand really like secretly writing numbers down.
I don't know sure. Yeah,Christiana has lived in Japan for almost exactly
five years. Yeah. And Ithought it was important that we at least
get her opinion on this because wehad a listener right in, our friend
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nerdy Tastic, who said that thismovie was the one of the most racist
things she'd seen in a while.And I am kind of clueless. I
had a you know, I hada Japanese roommate in college. We didn't
talk very much. He really likedto watch the same like Three Friends DVDs
over and over again, and wewere we lived together for like two months,
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and we just we never kept intouch. So I just don't I
don't know anything about Japanese culture really, Like I kind of pseudo dated some
girls in college who knew stuff.But yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
so I don't know. I feltlike watching the movie, I was
like I to speak to that atall and be able to critique the movie.
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And then it was really confused becauseI looked reviews and like people were
like praising the movie for being prettyprogressive at the time and actually having so
many Japanese actors, and actually Ireally appreciated the Japanese actors. Yeah,
yeah, so I look at itany movie that has Japanese characters as if
they actually got Japanese actors and Japanesespeakers to speak the Japanese lines right.
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Yeah. Now. It was funnyis apparently they when when the Japanese actors
were speaking English, they had themdubbed yeah, which has been as been
a stalwart thing. Right, That'snot just a thing for this movie.
That has been something that's been inall of the movies. Yeah, like
every Bond Girl has been like Nickyvan der Zile or something like that.
Like, but like Tiger Tanaka,he was dubbed when he was speaking English,
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but when he was speaking to thegirls to like the bath girls in
Japanese, it was actually the actor. Well interesting, yeah, yeah,
I noticed that. I just noticedthat. So I watched it on Japanese
Amazon, so it was subtitled inJapanese, and I only noticed that the
subtitles disappeared when the dialogue was inJapanese. That's interesting. Yeah, like
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our copy of it, and apparentlythis is a real thing, because I
saw that there was there's a asection on IMDb about alternate versions, and
like one of the alternate renditions thatgets passed around or released is a copy
where an English copy where all theJapanese goes unsubtitled, And that's one of
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the our DVD didn't have any subtitlesfor when the Japanese actors were speaking Japanese.
Yeah, so yeah, anytime therewas a language other than English,
we did not have subtitles from Yeah, and I just figured like, oh,
I guess they just thought Bond willtell us what's happening with his gun.
I thought that was just mine becauseit was a Japanese like, you
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know, release of it. Ohweird. Yeah, because obviously they didn't
subtitle the Japanese parts in English fora Japanese audience, right, So did
did what the Japanese people were sayingin Japanese? Did it make sense to
go along with the plot? Oh? Yeah, yeah, everything matched as
far as I could tell. Okay, because you do speak Japanese pretty well.
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Okay, I understand it better thanI speak it, though. See,
I just figured like, man,I'm gonna be trying to say these
names and Christie's just gonna be sittingover there and going like, oh,
you fool. Well. One thingthat I think is interesting that you told
us earlier, Christiana is the character. I don't think this is a great
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name for this character, Kissie Suzuki, but that is apparently what her name
is in Ian Fleming's book. Yeah, it's not in the movie. That
wasn't a liberty that the movie took. But Christiana, what were you saying
about that character's name. That's interestingif that's supposed to be a Japanese name,
because it would never exist as anactual Japanese name because there's no like
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ce sound in Japanese. There's onlya she like an shi sound, so
like you would not hear someone saythat name as a native Japanese speaker.
It's not like it's not one ofthe phonemes in Japanese. M okay,
all right, So you guys wantto know, was that it could be
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a nickname I suppose given by anod Japanese person. Yeah, but also
I don't think that lady's name wasever spoken in the movie. Yeah,
I don't think it was. Hername was never said, so yeah.
Um. I also just we've alreadysaid this several times. I just have
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to say it again. It isreally weird that Roald Dahl wrote the screenplay
for this movie. It's just sostrange. Yeah, I love him.
I mean, Christiana, do youknow who that is? Did he write
James in the Giant Peach Yes?Yeah, and BFG and James and the
Giant Peach Thing. Lately say thatagain, I've been watching Tychyts James and
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the Giant Peach Thing. Oh,and other celebrities joined it. That's really
cool. Yeah, I know inevery episode. Yeah, I've been largely
ignoring all of the Quarantine celebrity things. Um. Oh and he also,
I mean, like rule Doll haswritten some like lots of books, but
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also lots of pretty legendary books,including um, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
Oh yeah, so I don't know. I haven't read I mean,
I haven't read all of Roula Doll'sbooks, but I feel like this movie
is probably pretty different from them.Yeah, like he and well, I'll
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talk a little bit about it.I guess in the a little bit more
about it, because I can't remembereverything he said. But he complained that
there was a formula the producers insistedupon for him to go by, like
something like Bond had to seduce threewomen every movie. Oh my gosh,
there was a number. Yes,there is a number of error according to
him. Oh gosh, Wow,that's his heart. Do you guys want
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to start talking about synopsis? Yeah, let's go for it, and we'll
get into two thoughts on how everythingwas laid out. American NASA spacecraft Jupiter
sixteen is hijacked from orbit by anunidentified spaceship. The United States suspects it
to be the work of the Soviets, but the British suspect Japanese involvement since
the spacecraft, after having swallowed Jupitersixteen, landed in the Sea of Japan
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to investigate m MY six operative.James Bond is sent to Tokyo after faking
his own death in Hong Kong andbeing buried at sea from h HMS tenby
So. Okay, I know Bethanyhas watched The Office. Have you watched
The Office? Christie? No,I haven't, but I want to see
it. Okay, there is ascene and when I watched this spacecraft like
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fly up and like swallow this spaceship, it reminds there's an episode of The
Office. I think it's the onewhere we find out that Oscar is gay.
It is one of the characters onthe show. And Dwight goes into
he's sitting in I want to say, it's the stairwell of the building and
he asks someone else I can't rememberwho, Maybe it was Oscar. How
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the gay men decided which one oftheir penis would open to accept the other
man's penis, And that is exactlywhat I thought of when I saw the
ship was swallowing the other spaceship.That's a weird buddy. I mean,
you didn't write that line. Ididn't. That scene haunts me. Well.
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I was really excited because, um, the oh well, the theme,
the theme music for this movie wasso much easier on the ears and
the song by Nancy Sinatra, whichis really cool, and so I was
really excited that I was able tofigure out that Robbie Williams sampled this theme
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in his nineteen ninety eight song Millennium. And then I watched his music video
and it's definitely just a tribute toJames Bond. Yeah. And this was
all like pre movie, like,wait, we got to the opening,
we got to like the DVD screen, Yeah, and like all of a
sudden, plans were in hold,oh yeah, Bethany's looking up nineties pop
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culture. We were ready to wesat down, We're ready to watch it.
And yeah, we were on themini screen and I was just like,
wait, this is familiar. Ithink I know this from something from
the nineties. And I was like, Nope, I don't know it.
And then I was really excited thatI figured I was like, dude,
I think this isn't a Robbie Williamssong, and I it. I googled
it and it is like, officially, yeah, he sampled this. He's
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doing like the music videos James Bond. So I think that's cool. And
I was really excited that I figuredthat out by myself. Yeah, she's
like Robbie Williams and I'm like RobinWilliams. Yeah, so that's cool.
All right. So what what didyou guys think of Bond getting killed?
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Oh? Yeah, I thought thatwas I thought that was interesting. I
was curious how he was going tofake his own death. I mean,
they didn't really tell you much exceptthat they stuck him in a cast body
cast thing and threw him into theocean. Yeah, which apparently they had
trouble with because the stupid thing wouldn'tfloat or wouldn't sink. It kept floating
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around. But yeah, that's that'saccurate. Yeah. Um, And you
know, obviously we've got to startout another Sean Connery Bond film with him
just saying something not super encouraging ofwomen. Yeah what I don't remember what
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the exact line was, but whateverhe said about like women tasting differently,
Yeah, it was something like whydo why do Chinese girls taste different from
every other girl? And then theChinese girl says, oh, we taste
better or something, and he's like, no, it's you know, it's
not better or worse. It's likepeeking duck versus Russian caviare yeah, I
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love them both equally. Oh mgross. And then she says she gives
the best duck, which made mescoff and laugh at the same time.
So I don't know, I I'vethat was actually one of the lines that
our friend Nerdy Tastic said was reallyracist. Um, I just think it's
gross. It is gross because whenhe when he when he says something about
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when he's when he's talking about tastingwomen, I don't get the impression he's
talking about kissing them, you know, like it seems more bodier than that.
I guess. So that's weird.But I will say there is like
not because she's Chinese, but thereis a biological component. You are what
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you eat, so culturally we alleat different things. I doubt that's what
they were going for in the movie, you know, So there might be
some sort of argument that he wasn'treally being racist, that he was just
genuinely uninformed about how a diet canchange one's biology. I mean, because
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if anybody has kissed women of manydifferent ethnicities and cultures, is this guy?
Yeah, like I do somehow enjoythe idea that And that's gonna have
to be my head canon for itis that he's just a little ignorant on
it. And he but he has, like, as you might put it,
sampled many women of many cultures,and that's just one of the things
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that haunts the man in his dreams, just like why do they all taste
so different? Like is that justa real thing that superspy James Bond is
like running around just like why that'sthe one thing I've never been able to
figure out why. My Yeah,So my head canon is that after he
retires from being a spy, hestarts studying anthropology and sociology to figure out
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what the answer to that question is, because it was sincere not sexist or
racist, right, he was justreally wanted to know. Yeah, he
was a good guy after all.Oh god, you know a lot of
James Bond fans say that he ishe is the agent that or the m
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I six or am I five orwhatever. Was agent that was in The
Rock, that movie with whoever wasConnery, And you know that where they're
escaping from Alcatraz. Oh, okayor something. I don't remember what.
I never seed escape from Alcatraz.No, this one's called The Rock,
okay, and Sean Connery's in it. And he plays like they. He
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doesn't have the name James Bond,but they act like wink wink, not
nod. I was once a secretagent blah blah blah, and they are
like Bond fans who like to belike, oh no, this was the
original James Bond under a code name. Wow. Yeah, we're not watching
that for this show. I mightbe down for it. Anything else,
y'all Nope. Upon his arrival,Bond attends a sumo match where he is
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approached by Japanese secret agent A Key, who takes him to meet local in
My six operative Henderson. Henderson claimsto have critical evidence about the road craft,
but is killed before you can elaborate. Bond chases and kills the assailant,
taking the assailant's clothing as a disguise, and is driven in the getaway
card to Assado Chemicals. Once there, Bond subdues the driver and breaks into
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the office safe of the company's president, mister Osato. After obtaining secret documents,
Bond is pursued by armed security,but is rescued by a key who
flees to a secluded subway station.Bond chases her, but falls down a
trapdoor leading to the office of thehead of the Japanese secret service, Tiger
Tanaka. The stolen documents are examinedand found to include a photograph of the
cargo ship ningpo with a micro dotmessage saying the tourist who took the photo
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was killed as a security precaution.While at Tanaka SPA, Bond meets with
the key again, having developed feelingsfor each other. The pair kiss,
and Bond carries a key to hisbid because of course he does. Well.
She did say it was going tobe a pleasure serving under him.
Oh well, hsh these movies areawful with that stuff. Man. Yeah.
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Well, I still liked Aki.Yeah she seemed okay, I still
liked her. She was cool.She was you know, part of like
Tanaka's group or whatever, Naka Tanaka. Uh yeah, I felt she was
cool and it kind of bummed meout that she was just another victim of
Bond's charm, I guess I meanit. Yeah, he did her wrong
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first of all, because I remembershe was like, you wouldn't touch that
horrible woman. He's like, ohhaaven' forpared and he had totally got down
with that lady. Yeah, ifI remember correctly, over things I do
for England is what he said,right anyway, So yeah, there a
lot of this was just kind ofboring to me. I get really bored
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with just like I feel like it'sa lot of over plotting where it was
just like, oh, we haveto go here for the little thing,
and then this, you know,we're gonna meet this contact, and then
there's the there's a gun, andthen there's a fight and then there's a
run. You know. It's justI don't know, man, I don't
know why it bugs me. Itjust does. I just get like,
what are we doing again? Yeah? I have a hard time staying on
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track with what was happening. Yeah, Yeah, it was hard to follow.
You to say that just to makeme feel better, I know that.
I mean the whole movie was kindof hard for me to follow because
I kept getting bored. Yeah,and this was another This was another like
two hour long Bond film that wasn'tsuper interesting. It's not super interesting,
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and also, you know, itseems like so much of the plot is
just unnecessary, like yeah, twohours and why yeah? Why? So
like the whole thing they're trying tostop, like the whole bottom line is
to find the Secret Layer, andthey're trying to also find out why they're
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because they thought that the Russians weredoing the thing in space, right,
Yeah, like they wanted to findwho did the thing in space and stop
them from doing something else. Yes, And in order to do that,
when they eventually you figured out thatit was I guess coming from Japan,
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they had to find out where theSecret Layer was and so like that is
the point of the movie. Butin order to get there, there's something
with Osada, something with breaking intothe safe sumo wrestling, sleeping with different
women, um, having like agroup of eight women bathe you in a
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bathtub next to another man who wasbeing bathed. Um, you have to
then learn how to become a ninjaand fake Mary lady. Yeah what I
still don't know why he fake marriedthat lady or pretended to be Japanese.
That was weird because apparently the onlyway you can go undercover as a true
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Japanese person is to be fake married. Yeah. I didn't get any of
that. It's just to be married. Yeah, so that's that's jumping ahead.
Yes, all right, So Irely on these on these plot synopsis
and sometimes because I just need tolike, wait, what happened? Yeah,
yeah, okay. Bond goes backto Osado Chemicals to meet mister Osato
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himself, masquerading as a potential newbuyer. I remember that one had the
woman with the red hair. Yes, I remember that too. Osado Humor's
Bond, but after their meeting,he orders his secretary, Helga Brandt to
have him killed. Both are revealedto be Spector agents. Outside the building,
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assassin's open fire on Bond before akey rescues him. Again. Bond
and a Key drive to Kobe,where the Ningpo is docked. They investigate
the company's dock facilities and discover thatthe ship was delivering elements for rocket fuel.
Oh that's what happened. They arediscovered, but Bond eludes the Hinchman
until a Key gets away. However, Bond is captured. He wakes tied
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up in Brand's cabin in the Ningpo. Brand interrogates Bond before seducing him,
because why not. Brand flies Bondto Tokyo the next day, but en
route, she sets off a flarein the plane, seals Bond in his
seat, and bales out. Finallypersuaded to kill him, Bond manages to
evade the trap, lands the planeand flees before it explodes. I actually
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liked that scene. The plane sceneis that when he was in the tiny
toy plane. No, that wasthe slightly bigger plane you're talking about the
little helicopter like rarely bird thing withthe missile like it was like all you
know, it was like yellow,yeah, yellow, and like all jacked
out with like missiles and stuff,which was apparently a real thing that they
tried to, like the designer triedto sell to the military and it didn't
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really work very well. So itnever really happened. Actually, all of
the weapons in this movie were wow, even the apparently even the little cigarette
the shot it didn't do well andit yeah, no wow. Anyway,
So has the bathing thing happened yet? I don't know, because I just
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wanted to make sure that we notedthat that was gross. Well okay,
but it's also my quotes. Okay, so we can also note it there.
We've already noted that it's gross.But alright, I don't know,
like the bathing thing, I thinkit probably did happen already, but maybe
i'm that was with Tanaka, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was earlier on. Yeah, Soto to your knowledge, that's not that's
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not a real thing in Japanese cultureat this point in time, right,
Um, No, it is ina lot of it's in a lot of
Western movies. Japanese women bathing menin bath houses absolutely, wow, or
not just Japanese women, just youknow, Asian women in general. All
right, that's always a thing.Yeah, to my knowledge, that is
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not a at least common thing inthis country. Yeah, you know,
I have no idea very rare tofind co ed bads, and I think
the only co ed bads might belike private family ones. But oftentimes even
private baths do not allow members ofthe opposite sex to enter together. Yeah.
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Yeah, I was thinking about thatearlier, about how like, you
know, there are you know,you guys have said like Japanese bathrooms and
everything are so clean and like publicrestrooms and whatnot, and like there's like
a lot of you know, personalprivacy and stuff. And I was like,
that does not sound anything like whatI've seen in movies, right,
whereas was like, oh, theyall attended men in bath houses, and
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that's such a common thing that I'veseen. So but you know, the
sixties were a long time ago.True. I don't know what it was
like in the sixties. They didfilm this movie in Japan, they did.
I could tell because I recognized someof the locations. So yeah,
but you know, this was athing that was in mash as well,
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with like Koreans, like it wasjust such a common thing. Yeah.
Anyway, well, yeah, Ithought that was just h I found it
to be kind of sexist and kindof offensive, just that whole scene where
it's just like a man of powerU is offering another one of his like
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his American buddy, like, oh, let me um introduce you to a
treat. We're gonna have a bunchof feast women bathing us, and it's
totally normal, like this is somethingI'm going to treat you too, And
I don't know that fair. Hedidn't say, now, yes, you're
right, it's totally sexist. Yeah, but he didn't say he said that
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this was James Bond's first civilized bath, all right, But then he doesn't
say, you know, don't doanything for yourself that a woman can do
for you. He says, don'tdo anything for yourself that somebody else can't
do for you. So, youknow, maybe maybe that was just ladies
night, maybe likes and that wasTuesday. But on Wednesday they have men,
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right, Like He's like, ohno, when I want a deep
scrub, that's what I bring inthis seventy five year old guy who just
like really knows his profession, youknow, gets into all the nooks and
crannies. Yeah, oh my gosh, I doubt that was the case.
Also, just as someone who ismildly obsessive, compulsive, and germophobic,
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I also just thought it was kindof weird and gross that they were like
two men not only being bathed bysomeone else, but being bathed by someone
else in the same room. Thatwas weird. Man. Yeah, like,
I want to take a bath bymyself in privacy, right, who
hate actual jacks bath culture? Then? So it so is common to like
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bathe with several people in the sameroom. Oh oh totally. I mean,
well, like on sin Hot Springs. That's normally you know, like
there's the women's bath and then themen's, and like the women are all
together and the men are all togetherin their bath. But besides that,
like taking actual baths like at home, it's still quite common, like in
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a family, the whole family sharesthe same bathwater. Oh yep, like
shot, So they shower first andget clean and then they get in the
bath and relax and like all membersof the family will use the same bathwater.
Wow, well, see this justseems like the jacuzzi after the shower
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it really, Yeah, it does, true, I guess it is like
that, but that's always gross meout. And when I stayed with host
family, it shocked me that Iwas even offered the bathwater. I was
like, I'm good, I'm justgonna shower. Yeah. I mean,
when you when you kind of putit that way that it's sort of just
like a jacuzi, because I meanthat's basically what a hot tub is or
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a swimming pool. You're just allsharing each other's bathwater. But I mean,
when you put it that way,it's still kind of gross, but
it sounds a little bit better.But I mean like and I mean like
it is families, you know,like that shared the base still, I
mean like, yeah, like Christie, I love you, but I mean
I know that like you and Iare not gonna want to share each other's
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bathwater, absolutely not. My sistersdon't even want to share the air with
me. But I mean I getit. You know. It's like it's
the idea of conserving water. Yeah, and you are really strict about you
got a shower off first at least? Yeah, well then they should just
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have the shower apart and not thegiant bath. Yeah, if they're worried
about conserving water, no good comesof sharing a big thing of water.
I don't go to public pools.I don't sit in jacuzzi's. I won't
sit in a jacuzi because I knowsomeone else sat in a jau in the
same jay at some point before.Yeah. Yeah, yeah, if you,
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if you think really hard about it, there are plenty of things to
be grossed out by. Yeah.I barely get nude in the shower by
myself. You're like a borderline.Never knewed I am a borderline. Never
knew where are my cutoffs? Anyway? All right? But yeah, I
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really loved the bit where she jumpsout of the plane and he has to
like break free and yeah try toLike that was really super cool. Yeah.
I was like, finally something interestingis happening in this movie. Yeah,
yeah, right. Um. Afterfinding out where the Ningpo is unloaded,
Bond flies over the area in aheavily armed auto gyro that was it
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created by Q called Little Nellie.Near a volcano, Bond is attacked by
four helicopters, which he defeats thanksto the array of weaponry, confirming his
suspicions that the enemy's base is nearby. A Soviet spacecraft is then captured in
orbit by another unidentified craft, heighteningtensions with the United States. The mysterious
Spaceship's spaceship blands in an extensive basehidden inside the volcano. It soon turns
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out that the true mastermind behind thisis Ernst stavro Blofeld, the mysterious leader
of Specter, who has been hiredby a great power strongly implied to be
the People's Republic of China to starta Soviet American war in order for them
to destroy each other so that Chinacan replace them as the world's new superpower.
Blofeld summons Sosado and Brandt to hisoffice to answer for not having killed
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Bond. Osado immediately blames his assistantBrandt. Blofeld gives them gives them a
last chance, but as brand leaves, he activates a mechanism that drops her
to her death into a pool filledwith piranha. Blofeld then orders Osado to
kill Bond. I loved all ofthat. I really did too. Once
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it gets to like, hey,here's doctor Evil, right, here's the
inspiration for Doctor Evil. I waslike, yep, oh this is dope,
this is cool. He's gonna hitShe's not gonna make an out of
this, like cat is there?Yeah at yeah blow film, Yes,
Blowfeld is who Doctor Evil is basedon. Well, mat and Lorne Michaels.
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Yeah yeah. Christiana like, uhlike me and you Dave. She
has seen the Austin Powers movies andlike all of what we know about James
Bond is from these movies. Yea, all right, so mister Bigglesworth,
mister Bigglesworth. So Bond then meetsuh Tanaka and a key in Kyoto,
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where they plan to infiltrate the island. By disguising Bond as a Japanese fisherman
amongst Tiger himself and one hundred ofhis ninjas. The following night, a
specter assassin tries to poison Bond whilehe and a key are sleeping together.
However, a key accidentally ingests thedeadly liquid instead, which promptly kills her.
Bond kills the assassin and silently mournsher. Uh. I liked that
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scene, but I was sad forher. Yeah, that was a real
bomber man. I like that.Yeah, she what did she save his
life twice? Yeah? Something likethat. Yeah, just yeah, that
was a bomber. Also, Ididn't realize they were in Kyoto. That's
really cool because I've been there.Yeah, oh yeah, I didn't realize
never supposed to be in Kyoto becauseit was filmed at Heiji Castle in um
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Yogo Prefecture. At least the seethat the Ninjas was. Yeah, so
the big white castle where all theninjas were training. That was Himeji Castle.
Neat like the most famous castle inJapan. Have you been to it?
I have been to it with mom. That's really cool. That's awesome
raining and it was hot, butthe cast really pretty neat, did it?
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One hundred ninjas spring up from nowhere? Yeah? That was a little
strange. And they were not stereotypicalninjas. They were stereotypical karate guys called
ninjas. Actually they were not.While they weren't stereotypical ninjas, they they
were pretty close because they got likeone of the like last ninja masters to
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train those guys. Meat. Ohthat's awesome. Yeah, that's really cool.
Maybe they were more authentic than weknow them. Well, they definitely
were, like, like I said, like, I've read a bunch of
like reviews and stuff, and alot of a lot of people are like,
this was actually pretty close to alot of like, that's that's really
interesting. I wonder. I mean, do you think any of that had
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to do with roaldhl just because Ilove him and I want it to be
because of him. I don't know. It didn't really seem like that would
entirely be his job. Yeah,I don't know. I don't know who
who decided, oh, this isgoing to be authentic as we can get.
Yeah, but that's yeah, that'sreally cool. Because I also googled
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articles to see if other people foundit to be racist or offensive to Japanese
culture. And yeah, I foundone article that said that when this came
out, it was nineteen sixty sevenand that this was one of few movies
during this time period that actually portrayedthings accurately and in a more positive light.
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Yeah. Like the Japanese were goodguys in this one, right,
Yeah. I love that they hadLike they showed different types of Japanese people,
Like, it didn't portray all Japanesepeople as being ninja, girls are
geishas, and men are samurai,like I showed different roles and at least
to my limited knowledge, it portrayedthem in a rather accurate light. Yeah.
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But like the suo match especially,I thought was really nice. I
don't know exactly what the background offilming that was, but it looked like
a real sumo match. Yeah.Yeah. I one of the things that
the Bond movie seem to actually tryto do so far that it seems,
so far as I've seen, itseems like they really like to um sort
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of show like an international theater,Like they really like to like wherever He's
going, they like to showcase thatplace. Yeah, and some big you
know, what's it that that somewhatdefines the culture, and like, I
think the idea was like, Okay, we're going to just smother you guys
in like in in in an experiencethat you're you're not used to. Um,
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look at this exotic, you know, landscape. Look at this thing
that James Bond has to get into, you know. So it did sort
of feel like, uh, likea travel promo for Japan. That's time.
Yeah, all the movies seem likethat. Yeah, the big sweet
views of Najima and he Maji Castle, they looked so beautiful. Yeah.
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So yeah, oh, let's seesilently point me to where I'm supposed to
be reading as you do. Shortlyafter a Key's death and following a second
attempt on his life by another sassin, Bond is introduced to Tanaka's student,
Kissi Suzuki, who is to actas his wife. Now, this was
the pig face girl apparently. Ohmy gosh, that was so annoying,
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especially the lead up to her withhim seeing the other women first. Yeah,
and then oh, such a relief. I guess it was just a
joke because she doesn't have the faceof a pig. Yeah. Oh geez,
that was pretty offensive. Honest,Yeah, I could have done without
that crap. So acting on herlead a funeral for an I'm a girl
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who died recently. The pair Idon't even know that word. We can,
I don't know that word does notlook like an English word. And
that synopsis all right. So they'rein a ka booby trap with poison and
the volcano above it. Established intothe mouth of the volcano as a disguised
hatch to the secret rocket base,Bond slips in while Kissy goes to alert
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Tanaka. Bond locates the freeze,locates and freeze the captured American and Soviet
astronauts, and with their help,steals a space suit in an attempt to
infiltrate the Spector spacecraft Bird one.However, Blowfield spots Bond mishandling his equipment
and he is detained while Bird oneis launched with a backup astronaut. Bond
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is taken into the control room,where he meets Blowfield face to face for
the first time. Blowfeld kills Asadoto demonstrate the price of failure to Bond.
I like that. I like thathe killed a Sato. Yeah.
So apparently Donald pleasants every for everyscene. He's only like ten minutes of
the movie. But yeah, hedidn't blink. Oh my god, he
never blinked. Oh my gosh,is that Blowfield? Yeah, yeah,
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the guy played Blowfeld did not blink. Why I didn't, I don't know.
I guess to like, I guesshe just felt like that was like
an interesting way of like there wasan interesting choe voice showing how crazy he
was, or like, yeah,I don't know, that's a really cool
note. Like if I ever,for some reason wind up being an actor
and I'm in a movie playing atvillain, I don't think I'm gonna blink.
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Like It's one of those things whereI'm like, oh man, that's
so dope. Blink. Yeah,all right, so taking a lot of
adderall have a little trouble blinking.Excuse me if I'm grinding my teeth.
So, yeah, a lot ofstuff has happened now in these last like
one or two paragraphs. A movie'salmost over. So I thought it was
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really cool that they had that secretlayer in a volcano. I thought it
was really neat the way they disguisedit. Yeah, I thought it was
really cool that Kissy, although shewas never named in the movie, she
was the one whom she didn't figureout the exact location, but she was
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able to like kind of put Bondon the track to figuring that out.
I think that was cool that shehelped. Um. I Also, I
really liked her character. Um.I liked her Also. I liked that
she was in on it. Imean, at least they didn't have him
fake Mary, some poor young ladywho actually thought she had found her husband.
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Yeah. Um, and she seemedto be somewhat okay with the situation.
Um. I don't totally. Istill don't completely understand why he had
to go undercover as a newly marriedfisherman. No idea, they didn't really
do anything with that, unless unlessfor some reason, like they only let
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married men onto this part of Japan. I don't. I don't understand that
at all. I mean, Idon't understand why they had to be married.
But I did really like the placewhere they honeymooned. That was a
nice place. Yeah. The yellowface was tough, Yeah yeah. Um
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it felt kind of insulting to theviewers, Like, are we actually supposed
to believe that people believe he's Japanesebecause he doesn't look Japanese? Just because
they changed his hair color, right, he looked more Vulcan than he looked
Japanese. Well they did. Theydid actively say that they were dying his
skin yellow. Oh I didn't evencatch that part. Oh yeah, all
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like the Bathhouse Girls or whatever hadhim like stripped down and they were dying
him, and he was like doyou have to do? Can't you just
die the parts that show? Andthey were all like he oh, that's
my okay. Yes see, Ithought they were dying his hair, and
then I was like, so they'redying his chest hair but they put a
wig on his head. Yeah,they were dying his skin. Okay,
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Yeah, that that part did notseem necessary. I was thinking, like
when when when Nerdy Tastic, becauseI trust nerdy Tastic, she's a listener
to all of my podcasts. Thankyou so much, Nerdy. So when
she said it was so bad,like I conjured up real images like I
thought, she did say he inpersonated a Japanese man, and I thought
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I was like, oh man,because initially, like early on, when
that Japanese guy attacked him and thenlike he killed him in wore his clothes
and jumping in the back of thecar, I'm like well that's not that's
not like appropriation or anything, right, He's just I'm going undercover. Yeah,
I thought that's what. Well,No, he wasn't even going undercover.
He was just like, oh,I'm just gonna jump in the back
of this car, right, Andthen it was just like I was like,
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okay, well that wasn't so bad. And then it was like,
oh, no, you're going tobe pretending to be Japanese and I'm going
to teach you to be a ninja. And by the way, here we're
going to die your skin yellow andyou only have three days to learn to
be in Yeah. But when shetold me that, initially before I saw
the movie, I was like,this is going to be terrible because in
this time period, I know movies, Western movies are in no way to
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Asian cultures, right. I thoughtwe were gonna it was gonna be like
a nineteen forties kind of you know, Superman cover or something so and I
was really dreading hearing anyone try todo like a Japanese accent and like overdoing
it, right, like what Iso often done was that Christie. I
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was dreading that the whole movie too. I just kept waiting for a really
really terribly done Japanese accent. Yeah, yeah I was. And when she
said that he was impersonating a Japaneseman, I was just like, oh
Lord, don't let them do thething where they give him like heavy eye
makeup or something weird and now.But you know, he didn't. To
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their credit, he didn't try todo any kind of accent. It's true.
Also to their discredit, he didn'ttry to do any kind of accent
Scottish language. Right. It washer name was Kissy, right, it
was just her like she just spoken. He acted like he was mute.
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Yeah, he was like, yeah, Shi'm Japanese. The only thing I
really noticed him doing also after hehad his horrible quote Japanese disguise where he
wasn't very different, um was thelike he started to hunch over. What
like in a few scenes right afterhe had had his transformation, he was
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hunching over and like, I don'tI don't know if that was a conscious
thing. I don't know if thatis what he was directed to do,
but he was definitely like hunching alittle bit. I think he was trying
to seem shorter because he's like sixfour. Yeah, Sean Connery's a tall
dude, yeah, and he woulddefinitely stand out. Um, so I
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don't I've lost my train of thoughtcompletely. Um oh, here's what I
was gonna say. Do you wouldn'thave been better because I'm ignorant about these
things. You know, in FromRussia with Love and you didn't see that,
Christie. But in the in thecold opening for that movie, we
see James Bond trying to evade anassassin and then the assassin like comes up
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behind him and like pulls a garatout of his wristwatch and chokes Bond to
death. Yet and then while he'slaying on the ground, they pull off
the mask and it's not and itwas totally Sean Connery playing Bond. And
then they pull off the mask andit's a different dude. I'm wondering if,
like, if they were just hellbent on doing this weird subplot where
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he's pretending to be a Japanese guy, if they shouldn't have just had like
a real Japanese guy playing him,Like we have the if you want to
do the bath house scene or wherethe ladies are dying and or whatever.
And then we see the finished productand it's just a Japanese guy. And
then later on in the underground,later he like pulls off the mask and
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a Sean conner or underneath. Youknow, would that have been better?
You can just see that in yourhead. It's like him pulling off the
mess. He's like, dunna nono no no no no no no no
no no no no no. Idon't know if that would have been better
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or worse. But I don't knowanyway, But what what are your thoughts?
Christiana on um James Bond being inyellow Face about his transformation into a
Japanese person. Well, I justthought it was ridiculous. Yeah, he
obviously he didn't look Japanese really atall. No, he didn't actually change
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any of his facial features, andyou know, he didn't adopt any of
the non visual qualities of a Japaneseperson. Yeah. So yeah, I
didn't even read it so much.To me, it didn't come off as,
oh, I'm offended on behalf ofJapanese people, or it's so racist.
I just thought, wow, thisisn't great writing, because that would
never actually pass. Yeah yeah,yeah. Maybe what the most offensive thing
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is is that we're supposed to believethat Japanese people thought he was Japanese.
Yeah, yeah, like yeah,I just I don't get it. Yeah,
him like having to learn to bea ninja and learn to be a
Japanese person in three days. Idon't know. Is that being more belittling
to the Japanese people that like,oh, it's so easy to be us,
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or is it raking so high asto say, even though it's hard
to be us, he's James Bond, he can do it. Yeah,
Well, that is that is areal stereotype in in Western movies of like
the the American or British white manwho comes to an Asian culture and learns
how to be better than them ateverything in like a very short period of
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time. Right, But also like, why did he need to learn to
be a ninja? We never wenever even saw him needing to do that
at because, as we will discussin a minute with the next bit of
the synopsis, the ninjas came tohis rescue. M It's not like,
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well, you can either have uma backup of one hundred ninjas, or
you can learn to be a ninjayourself and then you will be worth a
hundred ninjas. It wasn't like Imean, he still ended up needing h
Japanese people to come and help him. He still needed the ninjas in like
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Tanaka's group, the only thing Ican come and help him. The only
reason it made sense than any capacityin the movie is that, like he's
on he's just doing a sparring session. Oh and this guy tried to kill
me for real. Turns out theassassins knew he was there, you know
that, Like maybe they were justmaybe they thought they were adding to his
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self defense that since maybe people continuouslytried to kill him while he was in
Japan, they were like, well, let's teach you some ninja skills so
you can defend yourself. It didseem like it was just Tanaka's idea,
which I think it's one of thethings I liked about Tanaka. The entire
movie is just like the entire movie. He's just like, Bond, you're
doing it wrong. Don't fly thatthing. If you're gonna get yourself killed.
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Stop smoking cigarettes, Bond, stopdoing that. You're not having civilized
baths, Bond. You need tobe a ninja. Bond. I have
ninja's I'm gonna make you marry awoman who has the face of a pig.
Haha, just kidding jokes on you. I don't remember how it turned
out with her necessarily, but Idon't remember them getting down. I remember
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him trying and being like, we'reon our honeymoon, and she's like,
nope, right. It was reallyaggravating that they kept doing that joke.
Well, it is supposed to beour honeymoon, now I know. At
the end it once again, it'sanother template for a Bond movie where it
ends with Bond being in some kindof raft or boat or something like kissing
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a lady. Was was he kissingkissy? I don't remember that. Okay,
maybe he was. I think itwas with kiss Yeah, okay,
so all right, Well they werethrough they went through a harrowing experience,
and she was like, well,now that you've been in water and that
awful yellow crap is off of yourface. No, that that excuse only
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works one time with honey Ryder.Yeah, now that you dont doesn't work
with every movie. Well we've beenthrough a harrowing expiring Nope. I mean
it's still better than Goldfinger, wherehe like cured pussy Galore of her lesbianism.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, andall he had to do was just
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have a conversation with her. Yea, he just had a conversation with her,
charming. Well that's not all hedid. They had that like weird
fight right pre rape sequence, righthimself on her and kissed her and then
she was like, wow, yep, that's all it takes. Anyway,
let's finish this up or the snapsthis up. Bird one closes in on
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the American space capsule and US forcesprepared to launch a nuclear attack on the
USSR. Meanwhile, a team ofJapanese Ninjas trained by Tanaka approached the base's
entrance, but are detected and firedupon. Bond manages to open the hatch,
letting in the ninjas ya super Cool. During the ensuing battle, Bond
fights his way back to the controlroom, kills Blowfeld's bodyguard Hans by tossing
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him into the Piranha pool, andactivates Bird one self destruct before it reaches
the American craft. The Americans promptlystand down their forces. Blowfeld activates the
Basis self destruct system, a bombthat triggers a volcanic eruption, and escapes
Bond, Kissy, Tanaka, andthe surviving ninjas leave before the eruption destroys
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the base and are picked up bythe Japanese Maritime Forces and the British Secret
Service. Hooray it's over. Sois this a good introduction to James Bond?
Christie will let you answer that one. I think since it was your
introduction into James, it was.If a good introduction makes you want to
keep watching, then no, itwas not a good introduction. What do
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you think, bethany Um, aswe have said this, as Roald Dole
has said, this really has allof the elements of the other Bond films.
So in a way I think yes, if you're just if you're looking
at all of the typical elements thatapparently have to go into a Bond film.
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Um. But yeah, like Christiesaid, if if you wanted a
good introduction into a franchise and thiswas the first one you watched, it
might not make you want to keepwatching more of them. Yeah, So
based on this movie, would youwant to keep watching the franchise? Christie?
Do you want to watch more?Not? If they're all like this,
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They're not all like this. Ihave seen the Daniel Craig's Casino Royale
and it was pretty fantastic. Yeah, I've seen trailers for more recent ones
that I would like to see basedon the trailers, yeah, but based
on this movie, it didn't makeme want to watch more. Right.
Yeah, as far as Sean Connery'sBond films go, Doctor Know really was
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a good movie. It was itreally and what a great way to start
the franchise like that one really wasgood. Um. Also, I've got
to say, like this underground volcanowhat volcano volcano layer? That place was
so cool. Well you know it'sKen Adams. It's the same designer who
did the Doctor's layerweat. Yeah,he's usually on the franchise. That makes
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sense. Yeah, it was reallycool. Um as I especially loved uh,
Christiana, maybe you can relate tome on this like childlike fantasy.
Okay when they were in the Layerand the astronauts would like get inside that
vehicle like instead of just walking likeit was like a tram but not Yeah,
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some of that just reminded me oflike Space Mountain. I didn't picturing
a Disney ride. Yeah, andI kept thinking, like dude, they
oh man, like Disney should addlike a James Bond part of one of
their parks. Man, and likethis Layer should be part of it.
They don't own James Bond, butthey could. I mean they keep adding
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on all other entities. We wouldit be more likely for Disney to add
it or for Universal. Who ownsMGM. Yeah wait it's MGM. Yeah,
oh, that's totally Disney. Yeah, Disney's MGM Studios Park, I
think is what it was called.I know it had MGM in the title.
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Okay, the great movie ride thathad scenes from oh yeah, some
Western and it had like a scenefrom Alien or Predator, I think Predator
and it was Alien owns okay,thank you, yeah, which was which
really sadly that ride does not existanymore because they turned it into something else.
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Yeah, maybe the Yeah, that'sa good point, thank you.
Maybe the hang up as they haven'tyet found an appropriate way to make a
pussy galore animatronic. Oh god,but yeah, I dude, I love
the Layer. And I know yousaid when we were talking about this movie
before the podcast, Christie, likeat some point it was just like a
bunch of Ninja's just like climbing downropes for like ten minutes it was,
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and falling and gunshots. Yeah,like that fight scene was ridiculous and probably
well not probably, it definitely lastedtoo long. But I really enjoyed seeing
that layer man, and I thinkit's so silly, but really tracks with
things that have excited me about theother movies, Like I just I loved
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seeing like just the astronauts getting intothat car and the car's going like two
miles an hour just on that track. You know. The whole volcano base
so great. The whole underground volcanobase cost more to build than it did
to make the first Oh my gosh, I'm serious. It cost over a
million dollars. Wow. Well,I just really uh what did you say?
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The set designer for that is whatis Ken Adams. I love that
guy's mind. It wasn't enough forhim to just come up with everything that
was in that bass anyway. Hewas like, you know what it's missing
is a track with a little caron it so they can get from one
place to another. Yeah. Ilove that all right. So we haven't
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talked at all about any of themusic except from Nancy Sinatra, which I
really liked that theme song. Ias for the actual music, you know,
Nerdy Tastic said that she thought therewere too many gongs in it,
and that was really stereotypical, LikeI don't know anything like is that are
gongs common in Japan? Now?Um, I'm not really sure. I
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mean I don't hear them all thetime. I think a more common instrument
would be the quoto, which isa streamed instrument that you play like while
sitting. Okay, did you hearany of that? I? Yes,
I do believe I heard some ofthat. Well, that's good. My
opinion of the music was that itwasn't like as far as the music regarding
being Japanese sounding, I guess itwasn't super original, but it wasn't like
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super I don't know, too stereotypical. It just it sounded like maybe the
sort of soundtrack you might hear ona Japanese film from the same time period.
I've not watched Japanese films from thattime period, but I've watched at
least a handful. Yeah, I'vewatched a few, and they actually seemed
way more stereotypical than you know.Yeah, I don't know. Anyway,
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I am now going to get thefavorite quotes if everyone's on board, Um,
I don't think I had any favoritequote. You can also you can
also say most hated quotes, justquotes that stood out to me. It
was, you know, like theone that I have said several times she
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has a face like a pig.Here's the part of the podcast again where
my cat is in the room.Yep, I know she has to make
an appearance every time. You haveit a lot better than Lowfield's cat baby,
Oh God, bless or hard.We'll talk about that in a thing.
Um. Yeah. So that linewas awful and definitely cringe e um.
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And then another one along the samelines. It was awful and cringe
e that. I didn't like awhole lot, you know, like in
just kicking it off right in thebeginning with old Bond talking about how whatever
you said, Chinese women taste different. Yep, yeah, oh did you
did you love that? The passwordwas I love you? Oh that was
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funny. It was pretty funny.He asked Tanaka, how do you feel
about me? I love you?That we have that out of the way,
yep. I actual really liked Bondand Tanaka's relationship the throughout the movie.
Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't bad, even though they were kind of
like horrible sexist pieces of crap.Yeah, they were a couple. I
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mean, like, on one hand, it's it was kind of nice that,
like they became friends so quickly andhad a good rapport, but then
on the other hand, they weresometimes just kind of like some douchey bros
hanging out. Yep, yep,all right. Uh So I really like
the line where um blond blonde Blowfeldsaid, they told me you were assassinated
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in Hong Kong, assassinated. Ican't speak in Hong Kong, and Bond
says, yes, this is mysecond life, and blow felt, had
you only lived twice? Mister Bond. I liked that. I thought it
was a cool yeah integration of thetitle and I'm it's like, I'm like
that family Guy bit where Peter's justlike his favorite movies are the ones where
they worked in the title of themovie. It's like, herecons here comes
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he said it, he said it, he said it. Um. I
thought it was funny when Helga Brandtsays I've got you now and Bond says,
will to enjoy yourself and she slapshim. I do like the stupid
humor, like the stupid Quippi crash. Bond says, all of this was
awful but funny to me. LikeTanaka while they're being bathed. Tanaka says,
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you know what it is about youthat fascinates them, don't you?
It's the hair on your chest.Japanese men all have beautiful bear skin and
bond says. Japanese proverbs say birdnever make nest in bear tree. Oh
god, Oh that was so weirdand awful. Yeah, but also that
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reminds me, Dave, I askedyou this during the movie, like,
okay, I believe you. Okay, thanks dude. Sean Connery's back is
completely hairless and smooth, and Iam curious if like they wax him or
something before they film, because thatman, as we have established in this
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movie, is so hairy everywhere elsehis chest is covered in hair, his
legs are so thick and hairy.Well the hair is thick, not his
legs, like he is so hairy, and then for his back to just
be like so smooth, it's reallyweird. I doubt it is real.
(01:00:15):
Yeah, I feel I feel likethey probably waxed him before they film her.
But a lot of men are likeway patchier on their back than their
chests. We didn't even have patches. I know, and I'm assuming they
would be like, oh, we'renot doing like Patch Adams here. You're
gonna have to get something's gonna haveto change. So um. I liked
(01:00:37):
when to Nachus introduced him to thecigarette that shot and he says it could
save your life the cigarette, andBond says, you sound like a commercial.
Laugh at I kind of groaned whenBond chose this little old lady here
when choosing a masseuse, and Tanakas'sgood choice. She's very sexy ful is
(01:01:00):
that a word? What that?That seemed really stereotypical and yeah, annoying
to me. See, some ofthese aren't my favorite. Some of these
are just like partial outrage quotes thatstood out or like oh god, why
yeah um oh man when he whenhe introduced him to his first civilized bath
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and Bond sees all the women andhe says, oh, I like the
plumbing, dude, gross, Likedude, really, Um, I'm not
even saying that one. That wasjust part of the whole scene that copied
over. Oh that was good.Tanaka says, I must say I am
disappointed with the ease with which Ipull I could pull you in the one
(01:01:45):
thing my honorable mother taught me longago was never to get into a car
with a strange girl. But you, I'm afraid will get into anything with
any girl. True. You knowwhy is words from Tanaka. This was
funny when they thought he was deadat the very beginning, when they thought
he'd died in bed with that girl. And even the Hong Kong policeman knows
(01:02:08):
who James Bond does and he's atleast he died on the job. He
would have wanted it that way.And this line from Tiger Tanaka, which
is the perfect line for this movie. It just perfectly encapsulates everything you need
to know about this movie. IfChristy, if anyone ever comes up and
he says, hey, tell meabout you only lived twice, tell them
(01:02:29):
this line Tanaka says, bad newsfrom outer Space. Yep. That does
sum up the movie. Yep.It's just like, man, there's some
outlandish crap in this movie, Buddy, bad News from outer Space. I
feel like this should have been likeone of the FOURIGN sub like one of
(01:02:50):
the FOEIGN translated titles, just doubleseven Bad News from outer Space. Christy,
what would you say Your favorite scenein this movie is do you have
a standout favorite scene. Yeah,like just a scene that you're going to
look out finally, at the veryleast, maybe, I guess maybe the
ninja training montage school, and Iwas interested in what techniques they were going
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to try to show the ninja's doing. And I was very intrigued by why
they were all wearing their white gee. Is that not common for ninjas to
train in? I don't know.That's why I was intrigued because the ninja
depictions I've always seen in film,they're not training, they're fighting, and
they're in their black suits with theirface. They can't just show the ninja
(01:03:38):
training. You know, they're sweatpants. That's true. No one's gonna buy
a bunch of ninjas and sweatpants.My favorite scene was ninja related. It's
when Bond has discovered where the layeris and realizes he needs backup up and
(01:04:00):
so Kissy runs to get Tanaka andhis ninjas, and you just see all
of these ninjas just like pop upfrom the side of the mountain or the
volcano or whatever. That was awesome, like they were really well hidden and
then just their heads pop up andit's like, oh my gosh, they're
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everywhere. So many ninjas. Thatwas great, just as like something that
looked cool. The scene with thepoison, yes, you know I was
dying, but the scene with thepoison on the thread, I was like
really glued to the TV for thosefew minutes. I was like, whoa,
that was so cool. I feltlike, leave it to the Japanese
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people to find like coolest way topoison somebody without even leaving a trace.
I mean, like, this wasn'tsome kind of like oh, okay,
we've gotta we gotta go in thereand find a way at distractor and then
I'll poor the stuff and or drinkand then a hand or the right one
and or I know they weren't tryingto kill the lady Hocky anyway, you
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know it was. It was justso much better than that. It was
just like, you know, likeslipping. No one even hears that anyone
is there, and all it takesis just like a dang string dripping some
poison down. That was really cool. I'm pretty sure John Cusack did that
to someone in gross point blank.Oh I don't remember. I'm pretty sure
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that's because he's a hit man.I'm pretty sure that's how he killed somebody
in that. That's awesome because asI was watching it, I was like,
John Cusack, Yeah that, yeah, that was really cool. It's
like, what a neat way tokill somebody. Yeah, it works as
long as you know the street,there's not like a breeze or something,
the string starts rocking, the airconditioner turns on, and as long as
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the person who's sleeping has like raftersabove their head, yep or a skylight.
So what was your favorite scene?I don't know, I've got confused
now, I'm all, I'm allturned around. Um hm, I kind
of feel like I think my favoritescene was when blow filled through Brandt into
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the Piranha pond. Yeah. Ijust like all the like you know,
beginnings of Doctor Evil and that sortof like evil genius thing. Like I
love all the like the bass stuff. I love like the Ninja War at
the end. Yeah, I likeall that stuff. Um. My least
favorite scene was probably just some expositoryplot ridden bullcrap where they're just like being
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chased by random people trying to getlike some mcguffin to do a thing.
I just I hate all that.I always do. Yeah. Uh,
my least favorite is and the ladieswere bathing Bond and Tanaka. Yeah.
I mean that was at least somewhatcringe comedy for me. Yeah, and
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I was just like, oh,this is awful. Yeah, good gosh.
What about you, Christie, whatwas your least favorite? Um?
Yeah, either the bath scene orthe scene with the women making him look
Japanese. Yeah. Yeah, that'srough all right, um, Bethany,
what do you hope to see goingforward? Um? Well, I was
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looking forward to taking a break fromSean Connery as Bond in our next Bond
movie. But then you told methat the next one we're watching has not
gotten very good reviews. Well,the thing is a lot of the ones
we haven't liked are among the favoriteof Bond enthusiasts. Okay, So I
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don't know. So maybe we'll bethe opposite on that one. I don't
know. I feel like now thatwe're five in um, I, I've
gotten to the point now where I'mtired of the template. Yeah, apparently
that's not going away anytime soon.Now. One thing I'm interested though,
to see is um Blowfeld is goingto be played by Telly savalis kojack Uh
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in the next movie. So I'minterested to see what they do with him.
Yeah, because I like that guy. Yeah, who loves your baby?
Um? All right, so finalfinal thoughts? Uh, oh,
Christy, I guess I should askyou if you ever watch Bond again,
what what do you hope to seegoing forward? Um? I'd like to
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see more cool spy maneuvers and lesswomen stuff. Okay, just women stuff
like body parts or less of lessof him seducing women. Yeah, I
don't think that goes away ever.Well about the ship, I just I
like the spy stuff. Well,I think in I think in like the
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Craig movies, just more of ayou know. Uh. Based on what
I've seen, it seems like he'smore like riddled with guilt over over women
that he's loved who have bit thedust because of his profession. He's like
a real like broken torn Bond,you know, from what I know.
So uh, there seems to beat least like real emotions or the semblance
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of real emotions, uh, inthose movies, rather than what we have
here where you know, Bond's like, oh I think I've fall hope she's
dead already. The next one,if there wouldn't be like an actual you
know, romance instead of just like, oh, I want to get her
in bed. Yeah, a stepin the right direction, I think.
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Yeah. So far, his uhlongest relationship that he has had with a
woman is with miss Moneypenny. AndI don't mean romantic relationship. I just
mean, like, uh, youknow, he has a rtatious dialogue with
her. Whenever they see each other. They they seem to, uh they
seem to just have a good rapportand to appreciate each other. And uh,
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that's that's been consistent in all ofthe movies. But yeah, I've
been shipping them from the get go. Yeah. Man, too bad,
too bad they can't get together.And you know, she could just be
his one and only lady. Mthat's not his life, man, Yeah,
I guess he wouldn't. He wouldn'tbe um an all encompassing spy if
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he was monogamous. And if hefalls in love, she has to die
just the way it goes, allright? Uh, what what are your
what are your ratings on this too? Sorry? Uh? Stars out of
five? Christie, what do youthink two or two and a half maybe?
Okay, Okay, that's that's that'sfair. I think. Yeah,
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Bethany I gave this one. Uhtwo point seven five civil wise baths out
of five. I gave it twocivilized baths out of five with the good
plumbing I hate when we do that, or I could have given it two
point seven five pig faces? Yeahfive okay not work? Oh yeah,
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all right? What's your ranking?Because mine now is number one, still
Doctor No favorite of all of them, the first one, followed by Goldfinger,
then From Russia with Love, thenYou Only Live Twice, edging out
Thunderball because good lord, those underwatersequences were just too boring. Yeah,
and then the worst movie I've everseen, possibly in my life, Casino
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Royal sixty seven. Um, yeah, so mine is really close to yours.
Uh, Doctor No is still myfavorite, and then Goldfinger and then
You Only Live Twice? Is mynumber three? Really? Just early above
from Russia with Love? Wow.Number five certainly is Thunderball. And then
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somehow even worse than all of thosewas the spoof Casino Royal Christie. If
you can imagine something even longer toget through than this movie, there was
a James Bond spoof that came outthe same year that this one did,
and even though it was supposed tobe a satire. It was like two
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hours and ten minutes long, andit just felt like an eternity to get
through and it was awful. Dougdoesn't like it either. Yeah, well,
she doesn't like bethany paying attention toanything but her. Yeah, even
though we've been like pretty consistently rubbingher the entire time, as she's been
like laying in the floor, it'sjust not the same if she's not in
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my lap. Yeah. Well I'mnot in your lap and we're not on
the couch, so this isn't okay, So this is not sufficient attention,
all right. Yeah, if you'rejust curious, Christie, I wouldn't recommend
watching Casino Royal sixty seven. Butour review is up and we've actually had
Bond fanatics who have never been ableto make it through wow and have listened
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to our review. Well, we'reglad to at least provide that service for
people. We watched it so youdon't have to. If someone gave me
the option of watching Casino Royal sixtyseven again or putting a pencil through my
eye, I think I would choosethe pencil through my eye. Oh please,
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I might maybe if I get Ifwe gave us some time. It's
like, am I on a timeframe? Yeah? Can I watch ten
minutes a day? No? Idon't want to get it over? Put
it in the background while I drawor something. Let's get to some trivia.
Yeah, all right. This moviecost nine million dollars to make.
It grossed one hundred and eleven pointsix million net profit of ninety one point
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four percent one hundred two million,six hundred thousand dollars. The profit percentage
was one one hundred and forty percent. That is crazy. That is crazy.
That's amazing that people had not begunto tire of the James Bond movies
yet. Well, it did internationally, I mean not internationally. It did
worldwide gross thirty million dollars, lessthan The Thunderball. Also, that budget
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is compared to the other movies,it's huge. Yeah, actually for that
time period, that's still a prettybig budget. While scouting locations in Japan,
the chief production team narrowly escaped deathon March fifth, nineteen sixty six.
Producers Albert Broccoli and Harry Stoltzman anddirector Lewis Gilbert, cinematographer Freddie Young,
and production designer Ken Adam were bookedto leave Japan on BOAC flight nine
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to eleven, departing Tokyo for HongKong and London. Two hours before they're
Boeing seven h seven flight departed,the team was invited to an unexpected Ninja
demonstration and so missed their plane.Their flight took off his scheduled in twenty
five minutes after takeoff, the planedisintegrated over Mount Fuji, killing everyone on
board. Oh God, that's awfulcrazy, isn't it. Wow, this
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is crazy too. The Henchman bondfights in Osado's office was a Samoan pro
wrestler called the High Chief, whowas the Rock's grandfather. Oh my gosh.
Yeah. So the volcano set costas much as doctor knows entire budget.
It was so large it could beseen from three miles away. Oh
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my gosh. Wow. The relationshipbetween Connery and the producers deteriorated to the
point where he refused to act ifthey were on set. Oh my gosh.
He'd been dealing with these guys fora long time, Christie. These
people, like, we've been talkingabout this trivia for like so many weeks
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now. But these producers were awful. Yeah, Like they would cast a
woman and then be like, Nope, I don't like her boobs. Yeah,
Oh my gosh, I think wewere ridiculous. Yeah, it was
just weird stuff like that, whereit was just constant crap. Yeah.
If you think the Bond movies aresexist, what is it broccoli? Yeah,
yeah, BROCCOLI's pretty bad. TheTerrence Young, the director of the
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first movie and then the third orwhatever it was, Yeah, yeah,
he's pretty bad. Some of theseguys have said some pretty awful things about
the the women who were cast orthe women who were not cast in the
reason they weren't. Yeah, butthey're not like using like you know,
body, they're not even using likebody words about it. They're just like
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very matter of factly and somewhat usingrespectful language, saying like, yes,
her breasts weren't large enough, sadly, yeah, yeah what she just wasn't
pretty enough. I didn't buy it. Yeah, I didn't like her hips.
Okay, that's weird. So anyway, While in Japan, Sean Connery
and his wife were hounded by theinternational press during news conferences. The press
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insisted on referring to him as JamesBond. Oh my gosh, that's ridiculous,
yea they wound up hiring thirty extraprivate security guards to combat the excess
noise and hindrance, but even theguards started to take pictures and they had
to get rid of that. Connerywas photographed on a toilet and the picture
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was published in a Tokyo newspaper.Wow. Halfway through the filming, Connery
announced he would not be returning asJames Bond. And then so the producers,
trying to ease tension, like,removed his contractual obligations to do anymore,
even though he still had one moreto do in his contract, and
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they even offered him a million dollarsto do another when he said no.
And after the movie wrapped, hewas asked whether he found Japanese women attractive,
and he allegedly said no, andit caused the Japanese people to be
really angry with him. But whathappened was they said that this was like
it turned out to be a mistranslation. But um in the conversation, he
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said, Japanese women are just notsexy due to their hiding their figures behind
kimonos, which is weird to me, but whatever, its also a weird
time to admit those feelings, yeah, which I'm sure like it was due
to some sort of question. Yeah. Um, but Connery did not go
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out of his way to be personablewith the interviewer, who was apparently a
guest, that he showed up ina casual T shirt with baggy trousers and
sandals and not wearing his tupe.The interviewer says, is this how James
Bond dresses? And Connery says,I'm not James Bond, I'm Sean Connery
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man who likes to dress comfortably.So guess what. This was the last
Bond movie to make extensive use ofvoice dubbing. Oh good. In this
movie and most of the previously movedpreviously made movies, Bonds leading ladies and
villains were dubbed by other actors andactresses, and it apparently rarely occurred in
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the future Bond films. So that'scool. Yeah. In the novel,
Ian Fleming describes Blowfeld's hideout as beinga castle on the coast. Ken Adam
discovered that this could never be constructed, that, in fact, the Japanese
never built their castles directly on thecoast for fear of typhoons, hence the
creation of the elaborate Volcano set makessense. Reportedly, the noise made during
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the shooting of the Grand Finale onthe Volcano set scared Blowfeld's cat and it
ran away. We can actually seethat in some of the footage. You
can see the cat trying to strugglingto get away from Blowfield, as it
wasn't found for several days, andit was eventually discovered hiding in some of
the sets rafters during the filming ofthe scenes. Donald Pleasants claimed the cat
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kept dirtying his trousers when frightened.That's so sad, Yeah, I know,
I feel so bad for that poorlittle baby. I feel really bad
for the cat. Yeah, becausethere's even there's a scene in the movie
where they're they're in the layer andthere's some kind of loud noise. Maybe
it was like, yeah, there'ssome kind of loud noise that happens,
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and Blowfeld is holding the cat andthe cat jumps out of his arms and
hides behind another man's legs. Andthat's just so sad. And I'm really
sad that like they kept using thatcat because clearly that poor thing had been
traumatized and they should have either gottenwell, they should have gotten another cat.
But I think more than that theyshould have just only used the cat
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in situations where there were not loudnoises in the background, because that poor
cat doesn't know what's going on,or just have them react to the loud
noise and put it in in postman. Yeah, poor thing. I
feel really sad for that cat.And I guess whatever whatever, like animal
rights organization is always on set nowfor whenever animals are used when filming.
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I guess that didn't exist in thelate sixties, but I feel like someone
should have been that poor kiddy's advocate. Yep. So Blowfield appeared in later
Bond movies, even that this isthe first time we've seen his face.
Christie, he's shown up and wejust see him holding the cat. Yeah,
they've only filmed him from the neckdown. It's totally doctor Claw from
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Inspector Gadget. Yes, so thisis the first time we've seen Blowfeld,
but apparently he is. He's inseveral other movies, but he's played by
a different actor each time, andthey don't even like go by the same
like body type, body type orlook. Sometimes he has hair with no
scars. Sometimes. Yeah, it'sdifferent every time. Oh my gosh yep,
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that is quite trust. It's sortof like their FBI agent, Felix
Lighter. He wasn't in this movie, Christie, but he has been.
He was in Doctor No and FromRussia with Love and Goldfinger. He was
a different actor every time and drasticallydifferent. Wow. See. So they
wanted to get some measure of authenticityfor the team of Stottman, who were
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going to be doubling as Ninja inthe battle sequence, So they hired Japan's
only practicing ninja master, thirty fouryear old Masaki Hatsumi, who had inherited
the tradition from his then retired teacherToshi Yugu Takamatsu. Yeah, and they
had advised together during the production ofthe first two of the Japanese Shnobi Nomano
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Ninja Assassins series of movies from sixtytwo to sixty nine sorry sixty six.
Not only did this movie provide anopportunity for Hutsumi to give more credibility to
the ninja characters, but also allowedhim a few brief moments of screen time
aboard Tanaka's private train as he interruptsbonded knock a Saki discussion to announce that
the photographs are ready for viewing.Neat cool. Oh, Christiana. What
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is the correct pronunciation of sake asin the like Japanese alcohol? Yeah,
because most Americans definitely pronounce it saki. Yeah. In Japanese it's pronounced stock.
And I mean it's not surprising becausein the film James Bond, you
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know, as we have said,does not really try to well he doesn't.
He doesn't do a Japanese accent.He doesn't attempt to say any Japanese
words the way they should be pronounced. But he definitely does in the movie
just say saki or does he sayshock? By the way. I don't
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know if you noticed this, Ubathany but um he said he in this
movie he said he's never been toJapan before, but in a previous movie
he told one that he had beento Japan on a mission with him.
Huh yep oh, and it's Ican't knew the error all right. Um.
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So, the aerial unit cameraman JohnJordan lost his leg while working on
this movie. John Jordan was leaningout of a helicopter to get a better
shot. Another helicopter was caught ina gust of wind and was blown closer.
The rotor blade cut Johnny's leg,which had to be amputated three years
later. Three years later, hewas filming Catch twenty two over the Gulf
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of Mexico when another plane passed by. He was sucked out of the open
doorway and fell two thousand feet tohis death. Oh gosh, he had
refused to wear a safety harness,and with his artificial leg he wasn't as
agile as he used to be.That's awful. Gave me like hot flashes
or something. When I read itthe first time, I was like,
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oh, oh, I'll keep workingfrom home. Thank you. Well,
no one needs a grant writer tohang out of a helicopter. It is
a safe job, well until youstart factoring in the sedentary lifestyle. The
novel was the last Ian Fleming JamesBond novel published during his lifetime. Released
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on March sixteenth, nineteen sixty four, it was the twelfth novel in the
series. For the first time inthe James Bond film franchise, the screen
story board a little resemblance to thesource novel. Some characters and the Japanese
setting remained intact, as do severalminor details, but the two stories are
radically different. Despite being a majorcharacter in the movie, Kissy's name is
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never mentioned on screen, not once, nor do we learn Naki's last name.
Both situations are unique among amongst majorBond movie characters. Interesting. In
the fall of sixty seven, EvaRinsey told the Newark Evening News that she
declined the Helga brand part because Bondpictures are good for pretty girls, but
not for actresses. I would rathersell shoes. Oh yeah. The reason
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this movie is so different from thebook is Raoul Dahl hated the book.
He called it Fleming's worst book,comparing it to a travel logo. On
creating the plot, Doll said hedidn't know what the hell Bond was going
to do despite having to deliver thefirst draft in six weeks, and decided
to do a basic plot similar toDoctor No Wow, oh gosh, right,
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now, imagine this. The directorLewis Gilbert, his regular editor Thel
McConnell, was originally hired to editthe movie, but her initial cut was
three hours and received a terrible responsefrom test audience. As well. Peter
R. Hunt was asked to reedit the movie. Hunt's cut proved to
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be so much more of a successthat he was awarded the director's chair in
the next movie as a wow,Oh my gosh, how much footage was
there? Dude, I don't know. I don't know how you can make
three movie three hours out of thiscrap. God, dude, Roll only
had six weeks to write it andit was over three hours long. M
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Z. This marks the fifth andfinal on screen appearance together of Sean Connery
and Lois Maxwell. That's Moneypenny andDiamonds Are Forever the scene where the disguised
Moneypenny gives Bond his travel documents atthe Port of Dover. Maxwell and Connery
filmed their line separately, and we'renot present together for the short scene,
So that's sad. Yeah, AndI was just saying things about her.
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M hmmm. So the only reasonNancy Sinatra did this title song was because
Frank Sinatra passed it, passed onit. It was like, give it
to Nancy. I enjoyed hearing hervoice. Yeah, I think it suited
her well. And but she wasreported to have been so nervous while recording
the titles long that first she wantedto leave the studio. Then she claimed
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sometimes sound like Minil John Barry declaredthat the final song used twenty five different
takes. Oh my gosh, wow, jeez, this trivia echoes what you
were saying. CHRISTI to Naka Ninjatraining grounds are near the famous him Enjie
Castle in western Japan. Yes,says the original fortification dates back to thirteen
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thirty three, and successive warlords builtever larger castle complexes on the site.
Yes, it has also been likerebuilt a number of times. Even though
it's referred to as one of theonly or one of the most beautiful original
castles, it's actually been rebuilt anumber of times to repair. It lies,
then it lies. It's beautiful though, that's cool. Yeah, I
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hurt myself. I'm not going toedit that out. The director Lewis Gilbert
was mostly collaborative with screenwriter Raal Doll'swork. As Dal declared, he not
only helped his script conferences, buthe had some good ideas and then left
you alone. And when you producethe finish thing, he shot it.
Other directors have such an ego thatthey want to rewrite it and put their
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own little dialogue in, and it'susually disastrous. What I admired so much
about Lewis Gilbert was that he justtook the screenplay and shot it. That's
the way to direct. You eithertrust your writer or you don't. Nice.
Weirdly, the guy that played TanakaTitzero Tamba later became a religious leader
in Japan. Huh wow, butreligion does it say? It did not
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say I'm going to look that up. I'm curious. Yeah, I'm curious
too, like a Western religion oran Eastern one. Yeah. Yeah.
I thought about looking it up andthen I didn't. I kind of honestly
hoped that you would be like,oh, yeah, we all know him
here. He's like, you know, he invented tim. Yeah, he's
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like the Billy Graham of Japan orsomething. Well he's still alive and he's
eighty four. Yeah he is.He's like the Billy Graham of Japan.
Dude, Well, Billy Graham's notalive, but you know, well,
yeah, keep going, old guy. Yeah, Billy Graham did for real
live to be Yeah quite old.Yeah. Roald Dahl was given free reign
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on his script except for the characterof Bond and the girl formula, involving
three women for Bond to seduced anally and a hitchwoman who both get killed
and the main bond girl, whohe of course has to wind up making
out with at the end of themovie in a rash sure. While the
third involved a character from the bookKissi Suzuki, Dall had to create a
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key and Helga brand to fulfill therest this movie, Martin the first time
in the franchise. At the worldwidegross was less than that of the previous
movie. Terence Stamp was considered byproducer Harry Staltzman as a replacement for Connery
when they thought that Connery wasn't gonnacome back for this one. He's a
Terrence Stamp suggested to Staltzman that heplayed the role disguised as a Japanese warrior,
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revealing his identity at the end.Staltzman was not impressed. So,
I don't know if you guys knowwho Terence Stamp is. If you're have
either of you seen Superman two,the Christopher Reeve movie. No, that's
how I know Terrence Stamp. Hewas. He was General's odd. He's
the guy that said son of joreotcha. He's a good actor, gotcha all
(01:31:26):
right? So, by the way, Tetsuro Tamba is not still alive.
Sorry. Uh, he died.Yeah, he died in two thousand and
six at the age of eighty four. Um. All right. So in
the nineteen eighties, while appearing inaround seven films a year, he became
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the leader of Yikes Die Rain KaiI don't know okay, which means Great
Spirit World, a spiritual cult movementfor which he made several propaganda to videos
based upon his theories of the afterlife. Oh so his own thing. Yeah,
so he was a religious leader ofa cult movement. Okay. I
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wonder how many bath houses were involved? It doesn't say weird continue well the
outside scenes that asato chemicals were takenat Hotel nu Otani, Tokyo. Oh
do you know that place, Christie? One more time, Hotel nu Otani
in Tokyo. Nope, haven't heardof it. Then it's not real.
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The producers had Harold Jack Bloom cometo Japan with them to write a screenplay.
Bloom's work was ultimately rejected, butsince several of his ideas were used
on the final script, Bloom wasgiven the credit of additional story material.
Among the elements were the opening withBonds, fake death and Barrel at Sea,
and the ninja attack well, Iliked all that. Yeah, I
wonder what else the screenplay had thatI would have liked that weren't in this
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movie so much additional footage, apparentlyin the terribly named article The Oriental Beauties
of You Only Lived Twice, publishedwith a pictorial in the June nineteen sixty
seven issue of Playboy. Wow,Raoul Dahl claimed that he assembled his script
to a formula already established in theprevious movies in the franchise, and that
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he never took the script seriously.In fact, he said that the formula
was strictly enforced by the producers,who would broach no deviation. Wow,
doest have been really frustrating? MDahl had no prior experience writing a screenplay
except for the uncompleted The Bells ofHell go ting a ling ling why this
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was kind of cool? Toho Studiosprovided sound stages, personnel, and the
female Japanese stars to the producers.Toho's the studio that did most of the
Godzilla Japanese film studio her own theaterchain Cinemas. Oh crazy, I didn't
know that. Ye See, Christy, you're doing so good. You have
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value what I said. I'm soglad. Yeah, you know, we
we aim to uplift here. Yeah, yes, all right, let's let's
get us some listener feedback for youonly live twice. Our listener Joe Forno
for Narado says, this movie confusedthe hell out of me from the first
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scene, like why is he there? Where is he? What is happening
exactly? Yeah? Yea, Orlike why does he need to do any
of the side things he's doing.Yeah, there's a lot of that,
I feel like. Our beloved listenerDavid Way says, a bit of trivia
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I figured out for myself in thisfilm, Bond never steps foot in England.
He started off in Hong Kong andthen went to Japan. This is
the first time we actually see hM. You know, the guy in
the submarine who gives Bond's orders Christie. Yes, usually Bond has to go
to England where that dude is.And he walks into the same office and
throws his hat on the coat rackand flirts with money Penny and then goes
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into M's office. This is thefirst time they've decided to like just give
em a portable office some strange place. It's interesting, it's a new,
weird thing they're doing as far aswe're concerned. Okay. For Casino Royale
in nineteen sixty seven, David Wayangsays to us m's daughters being all within
the age range of sixteen to twentyone is most certainly a salacious move,
(01:35:34):
so that the girls are barely legalbut still legal by British standards, same
as the Grail Beacon Castle of nubilewomen in Monty Python and The Holy Grail.
And we did, we did saythat Casino Royale kind of had a
Monty Python feel to it. Ittried to sometimes. Yeah, it was
like they were they were trying tohave that feel, but I don't I
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didn't see. I feel like ifMonty Python and made this movie would have
been a lot better. Yeah.Absolutely. Our listener Effie Opelder says,
I'm catching up on breaking Bond.Congratulations to your wife for having a dress
with pockets. Thank you, Thankyou for appreciating that. But that'd be
quite an accomplishment. What, Christie, which dress would that be? Oh?
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It's one that I got from OldNavy that I was wearing for the
first time when we were casting.Nice. Yeah. Effie also says thanks
for touching on Woody Allen being acreep. I was worried you were blissfully
unaware or apologetic. I'm not comfortablewith touching on it. That's what got
Woody in trouble. But oop,boots. So I'm sad that Woody Allen
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is a creep because I'm well,we don't know he is, but we
know he is, you know whatI mean? So yeah, because I
like, I just want to pretendlike he is as I don't know,
cute and enjoyable in real life ashe often is his movies, just sort
of the lovable nerd kind of awkward, nervous kind of guy. I don't
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know, it makes me sad ifyou know that he's not that he's not
like that in real life. Iguess yeah, I kind of feel like,
I don't you know, we havetwo different sides of it. And
you know, he did go tocourt over it, and they weren't happy
with him, but they didn't haveanything to really hold him too, you
know, so it was it didn'tseem like almost like a draw kind of
(01:37:30):
I mean, like I think theyfelt like he was guilty of something guilty,
but you're not not guilty. Yeah, So anyway, I'm sorry.
I wish we had more concrete.Uh, I don't know things. I
don't know what I'm thinking now,like Dared Woody Allen, be better.
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Please, Dared Woody Allen, pleasetell me if you did it. If
you did, I'm gonna have tobe disgusted by you. Would stop watching
any of your movies. And nowI feel weird if I happen to watch
one of your movies, because Ifeel like I'm somehow contributing to a creep
anyway. Bar Brett says, I'ma longtime hardcore bond nut and I've never
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made it through Casino Royale. Ifyou knubies can slog through the Thunderball and
follow it up with this, Ireckon. I gotta finally step up.
Sean Ray of the Cosmic Potato Networksays it's one of the most confusing films
I've ever seen. It was soweird, man, Yeah, it was
so weird. And Joe for Naradosays, never seen this one, but
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hurt us bad. Well, atleast it's gotta be a quick It's gotta
be a quick watch. Two hoursof twelve minutes, oh boy, yeah,
jeez. And on Goldfinger, StuLittle or Buddy's Stu Little says,
wants to point out that I saidsomething about odd Job decapitating the statue with
his razor edged hat, because hethrows his hat and it it hits things
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and he throws a hat. Christie, yeah there was a hat. Okay,
Yeah, he throws a hat anddecapitates people and or breaks their necks
with his hat. You you mightremember him from or the Austin Powers equivalent
as what was his name? RandomTasks? Random Task, and he threw
a shoe instead of a hat.Honestly, he throws a shoe anyway.
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Um. So Stu says he decapitatesthe statue with his hat, not because
it cuts, but because it hitsso hard it broke it off. Well,
the reason I had said that,Stu, and I've I've got research
to back me up. In thenovel Odd Jobs, signature weapon was a
razor edged bowlder hat. So thatwas razor edged and was used to cut
through neck. I reckon in thefilm, it's not a bowler hat anymore.
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It's a sand ring, a matsand ring hat, a sand ring
ham hat with a sharpened steel rim. So, and they actually refer to
it as a flying guillotine. Itis. They say it's very powerful,
capable of cutting through steel and decapitatinga stone statue. So while he did
use it to kill Tilly Masterson bybreaking her neck, it is, uh,
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you know, steel rimmed and adecapitating type of situation. So that's
why I was saying the things likeI want to know if there's like a
button on the hat where he couldtake it from decapitation slicy mode to force
trauma mode. I know, becausethat's what I was wondering. I feel
like there was like some sort ofa censorship issue where they're like, we
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can't have him chopping on girl's headoff, throwing his hat at her.
Yeah, we can't let a hatdecapitate a woman. Yeah, because you
know, not only is it tooviolent for audiences of the time, but
yet no, Bond's gonna have tosay something like there's that's no way to
get ahead in life, right becausealso and powers head wasn't there. Yeah,
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yeah, they no need to loseyour head. Yeah, that's no.
He'll never be the head of amajor corporation. Yea, until Heather
Graham just says that's enough. Yep. I actually I believe that was Elizabeth
Hurley. Oh, that was theone with her. Okay, that was
the first one. Okay, allright. So Stu also says you might
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like the Dynamite Comics Bond mini seriesthat Greg Pack wrote, which reimagine odd
Job as a dashing Southern Korean secretagent that Bond has to work with to
investigate Goldfinger. So Stue's a listenerto DC on screen. I'm sure he
knows by now that I'm a notorioustrade waiter, so I will get to
it when I remember. It doessound interesting, Yeah, Neat, thank
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you everyone for listening and sending inyour feedback. Absolutely, you guys are
awesome. We appreciate it. Christie, thank you so much for being a
part of the show tonight. Thankyou, Christine, you are very welcome.
I enjoyed it. Good. Thanksfor being our Japanese core respondent slash
expert. No. For all ofnext episode, we will be discussing nineteen
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sixty nine's On Her Majesty's Secret Servicestarring George lasambie Is, James Bond,
Diana Riegus, Countess Tracy d Vicenzomackenzo. Okay, that's what I'm Telly
savalas as Ernst stavro Blofeld, directedby Peter R. Hunt. Until next
time, keep a Tiger Tanaka inyour tank. You can contact us by
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