Diddy Trial Wrap Up: Kanye West's CUCK, Verdict Predictions, Billionaire Lies & Lou Taylor Conspiracy!

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We're back in the courtroom trenches for the Diddy trial where things have gone from spicy to straight up slippery.

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We're talking Jane's jaw dropping testimony. Diddy's king knights with industrial amounts of baby oil and Kanye dropping an album called Cook.
Throw in some sex tapes, final arguments, conspiracy theories featuring Lou Taylor and Diddy's fake billionaire status.
And you got a banger episode. Come on at ya. Buckle up because we're about to make some predictions on the fate of Diddy.

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Now if you've been listening to the show long enough you already know that we've done.
We did four trial episodes breaking out what had happened in each week from Cassie's bomb shells on sex parties with all these drugs and the elites mixed in with the showtime show jiggleos.

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And Diddy hired dudes named the Punisher to do things to punish. We talked about Jonathan Adi which ties into this whole Trump illuminati conspiracy stuff in week two.
Then we talked about NBA young boy a rapper that we talked about how there's some strange fed associations there and then Trump pardoned him right after we did the recording.

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A bunch of wild statements from Diddy and then the last episode we talked about this was week four where we talked about Ray Jay and butter up the boot the B hole with shug knight, Whitney Houston and oh my gosh everything it's all here.
And today we're finally wrapping up what happened with this trial.

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And I've got notes to catch us up from the week four episode all the way up to today June 30th where the jury is deliberating the fate of Diddy will he spend the rest of his life in prison.
We're about to find out.
I'm very excited.

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Josie gushing with excitement. My god she's uncontainable.
Listen up, she's charged up like an electrical socket. She got that meth lane blue.
Well, did he is like to me.

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I think the whole story and I think this is what everybody is thinking is like we this is what's hard about abuse.
We all are like yeah, this is what we thought was happening.
Maybe not the 24 hours where people have to be put on IV systems from drug use and sex stuff.

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Well, my plan for today unless you object to put it in courtroom terms.
I will catch us up with everything that happens since week four as far as the trial goes.
We'll laugh, we'll cry, we'll talk about conspiracies along the way.

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And then I want to talk about a conspiracy theory that ties us into Britney Spears and the free Britney Moome as well as Travis Scott who we talked about last week.
Then we will go through the potential outcomes of the, oh, then we got another conspiracy about did he faking how much money he has.
That we'll talk about and then we can talk about the possible verdict options for the fate of what happens here.

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And what the defense is using to kind of, I don't know, get diddy off the hook.
Okay.
So we can talk about that at the end got it if that works for you.
That works great.
All right.
Well, we got to go back to June 9th.

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That's how long it's been since we talked about diddy.
Oh, okay.
And Jane, because if you listen, I'm going to put links in the show notes.
You can catch up on the four episodes.
We already did about this.
The most recent episode was Diddy trial week four, Ray J. Shugnight and Whitney Houston conspiracy.
So we're picking up from that point where Jane is testifying a pseudonym of Jane.

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And she, she was the one that was dating diddy up to the point of his arrest.
Okay.
And she said she testified against him or for him against him.
Oh.
Well, I don't, I mean, I guess everything.
I feel like everything is like he did all these horrible things to me, but I still send him Christmas cards and birthday cards.

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Well, it's fucking weird.
Well, I don't know that she testified it gets she testified and you know, the prosecutors and the defense both use her testimony to help paint their picture of what's going on here.
Sure.
So I don't know if that's an accurate statement.
But anyway, she testified that in March of 2024, because remember, diddy got arrested in September of 2024.

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He's been in prison ever since.
Jane testified that in March of 24, her and diddy had broke up after she said she felt like she was being a sex worker for him.
And after the, then I, I, like I said, I haven't, I haven't read every stitch of transcript.

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I went through some summaries to catch up on everything and I am not as tuned into the fine details of the arguments here.
So my understanding reading through was that she was kind of on and off again at a certain point.
And I think this is where red and March of 24.
Okay.
She's like, I don't want to, I feel like a sex worker.
I'm out.

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But yet they stayed in contact somehow.
Okay.
Well, I mean, including after the raids on his mansions, which was what?
September of 24 when they arrested him.
Okay.
Diddy hired a lawyer for her.
The same lawyer who's representing her right now in the courtroom that diddy is still paying for.

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Hmm.
All right.
So like I said, it's a little fuzzy to me.
I don't know the exact details of what their relationship is.
And I think I want to say somewhere in my reading, she was visiting him or calling him the prison still.
So if they're broke up, it's not super broke up.
Okay.
She talks about how she got, and again, this is back on June 9th.

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June 9th.
Okay.
She talks about how she got into a physical altercation with Diddy after she had confronted him about another woman that he was apparently seeing.
And after the fight, he told her.
Like a physical, they got into a physical fight.
Yeah.
Okay.
But it got physical.

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Okay.
And after he told her to take some ecstasy and put makeup on to cover up the, the marks because an entertainer was coming over.
Oh, thanks.
And she said she didn't want to.
And then he gets in her face and he says, is this coercion?
Implying that I don't know that she should do it.

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I guess she does it.
And that she proceeds to have sex with this entertainer while he watched.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
Wait.
They get into a fist fight or a physical slap fight or something.
Yeah.
And he had called a entertainer, which is just a, like a prostitute.

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Okay.
Calls a prostitute.
Called out the jiggleos.
And then she said, I'm not sure if she's going to do it.
I'm not sure if she's going to do it.

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That's June 9th.

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You taking me to a fucking movie isn't in the same realm is getting slapped and then having
to fuck somebody in front of you.
That's not even close to the scene.
I understand that.

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But she's saying because like the idea is that the prosecuting diddy saying, look, she
only has sex with these entertainers because she wanted to be close to him.
She wanted to be close to him.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I guess like if I guess if you isolate that only but then you got to put it in the context

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of he was physically abusing her and drug her.
I know this is what's so hard about.
This is what's so hard about abuse is that sometimes you have been abused for a really
long time and love fills like this.

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You know, you can't distinguish between the pain and the love because it kind of gets
mixed in.
There's a book.
It's by people need to go to fucking therapy.
We have to be in therapy.
We cannot just assume that pain is love and that is the cost of love.
It is not.
There's a book I read that our marriage counselor put me on to about love and the author says something

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about how.
What was the book?
I can, I can't see it.
It's on the shelf over there.
If you want to go look.
Why would I know what you're thinking?
I think it's behind that.
You're insane.
If I want to go look for the book that you're thinking about.
It's called the Power of Unconditional Love.

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Okay.
In that and I'm paraphrasing and I'm going off of memory from probably 10 years ago.
Okay.
He puts this argument forward of, "Where do you put the blame?"
So for in this case, you said sometimes with abuse, love gets sort of rewired and it gets

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bad, right?
Something like that.
What did you say?
Sometimes we are abused and we're small and we don't understand that love doesn't have
to come with pain.
That it all mixes up because we've been abused for so long.
And in the book, he said, "So who do you blame for this kind of situation, to use a paraphrase

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and use this diddy thing?"
It's like, "Who do you blame for this?"
Because in all reality, diddy was probably abused as a child somewhere.
He learned this somewhere.
Maybe it was...
Or it was drugs.
Sometimes drugs will numb the empathy out of you and you become a fucking monster.
And even though you came from a good family, you morph into something else because your

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humanity gets numbed away from abuse, drug and alcohol abuse.
So there's an argument to be made and that's what they make in the book.
They said, "So if diddy was abused by his parents as uncle, who knows?"
He learned this abusive behavior from someone else.
He got abused when he was a child.

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He never really had a chance in a way.
We should be prosecuting his, whoever did it.
Parents, uncle, whoever.
I don't know.
Yeah, but that's to say that nobody has any free will into your own behavior.
And I do understand that to a certain extent of...
The book doesn't talk about prosecuting and then...
No, no, I'm talking about holding accountable.

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Yeah.
Right?
So let's get the law out of it.
Let's say who gets held accountable for the abuse?
And I think the minute you become an adult and you have the ability to know right from
wrong.
And even if it is clouded in a lot of like fucked up belief systems that was put into you
or beat into you or coerced into you, at some place you have to...

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When the storm is quiet to look inward and be like, "What the fuck is happening?"
I think we all have this ability.
Unless you're like mentally incompetent to do that, right?
Like if there's something in peeing you like a mental illness or a mental...
Like that's why there's that for law.

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Like in courtrooms and stuff like that.
Like well, they don't know what they're doing.
They're fucking crazy, right?
Yeah.
So I could see that our brains, our organs and our organs can be dysfunctional.
And so that can be an aspect to this thing.
But it doesn't mean that you get to just do whatever the fuck you want to do because this

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thing was done to you.
Like at some point you have to be in your body enough and self-aware enough to be like,
"This doesn't feel like love to me and me being hurt and not feeling good in my own sin
and sitting there telling myself I'm a piece of shit."
At some point you turn around that hatred of yourself and vomit it all over the world.

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At some point you have to stop in the chaos of it and say, "What the fuck is happening
here?"
And that's what being an adult is, is having your brain in the quiet, go through the wreckage.
And that's the argument you could lobby against these women who are getting abused and

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say, "Well, you're an adult.
You should know better than to stick around for this abuse that you seemingly enjoy."
Like that's the argument.
I'm not agreeing with that.
I'm totally on the same side of everyone who's like, "Dude, did he's a monster?"
Because I agree.
I'm going to get horrible shit to these women.
For sure.
No doubt.
I'm just saying, in the court of law, I think the defense, I don't know what the law is.

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I think this is why relationship is so hard is that it becomes everybody plays a part.
Marriage is don't end because, typically because of one person, everybody plays a part in
it.
And that's the same with abuse.
I think that, you know, without people turning a blind eye, and I don't think abuse happens

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in a vacuum.
I don't think that the Catholic church was allowed to rape children for as long and murder
children for as long as they did because nobody knew.
They murdered children.
Yeah, didn't you see that where they found a bunch of bodies in where the nuns were?

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What was that called in a convent?
In Ireland they had hundreds and hundreds of bodies that were disposed of in a sewage system.
Yeah, like dead babies, they threw in there.
Yes.
So I mean...
Yeah, that wasn't just one nun going crazy.
No, that was a system and lots of people fucking knew about it and they turned a fucking blind

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eye.
What the fuck?
And I think that what we're talking about is the same thing the defense is going to argue
to say, "Look, these women took part of this and they kept coming back for more.
Like what do you want us to do about that?"
But I think that that's...
I think that that's like saying the Holocaust, nobody can be held accountable to the Holocaust

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because everybody was fucking doing it.
Nobody could be held to apartheid in Africa because everybody was, it was a culture.
It's like, no, at some point we all have to like be held accountable to some point.
So do you think the women should be held accountable for some of this?
For like allowing this to continue?

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I mean they were there because one of the crimes he's committing that they're trying
to put him in prison for is hiring sex workers to come across state lines.
Well the women, according to some of the text and things, enjoyed these things.
Cassie said it.
She's like, "I love Freak Offs.
I'm always down to Freak Offs."
Is the Freak Off the different?
I don't...

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I hate that they use that word because it makes it seem like it's this fun thing instead of
what it might be.
You know what I mean?
I'm just saying like it gets...
This is the same as like...
It does get murky here.
But like, okay, so tell me what the difference is between this.
A Freak Off, which is I think we shouldn't be calling it that.

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We should call it something else.
But okay, whatever, who gives a fuck?
A Freak Off or a cult?
Like a sex cult.
Tell me what the fuck in difference is here.
You have one person orchestrating and co-worsing and holding a lot of the power in whichever way.

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So tell me what the fuck in difference is here.
Let's go point.
It's the same.
It's just maybe in a different shade of...
Well, they're not prosecuting to diddy for running a cult.
They're prosecuting him for various things like...
Yeah, but look at Madison.
Madison didn't fucking kill anybody.
He's had been imprisoned this whole time.

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Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah.
He gets held accountable.
Anyway.
Do you see what I'm saying?
It gets...
Well, I'm just saying, if we're going to say that to use the Holocaust argument that Hitler
and the Nazis that did these crimes all need to be held accountable for it.

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They did.
They had trials where they had Nazis.
Yes.
Well, according to this argument, if diddy gets...
I mean, I...
Well, I guess the women got immunity.
The women didn't have...
They got immunity here.
Also, but they didn't...
They didn't have the money to do this.
The defense is going to argue that, yeah, but they enjoyed it.

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They partook of this crime and they enjoyed it and they didn't stop him from doing it.
In fact, they egged it on sometimes on these text messages.
So you want the girls to be imprisoned with...
I don't.
I don't.
I think they were...
I think this is exactly what was going on is that...
Like Jane said, she only went along with this because she wanted to get close to diddy and

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spent...
She was trying to be a good partner.
And it was like, "Well, this is what he's into.
I'll do it, whatever."
But I'm saying that there are text messages in this court of Cassie saying, "I really enjoy
this.
Can't wait to do it again."
Type shit, you know what I mean?
And I also have the nuance to be like, "Can I have this in real sparsely?"

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Does that her just saying the thing to stay close to him because he holds the fucking power
of her career?
Totally.
Yeah.
This is what is fucked about the whole situation is that you have these men in power, same
with Harvey Weinstein.

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You have these men in power that are using abuse as a fucking ticket to get access to
a career that they fucking want.
And then there's a system input in place that's rewarding it.
So now everybody believes, "Well, this is the only way in."
And you've got all these celebrities over the years, like Ashton Kutcher and Ellen DeGeneres

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who are like, "Oh, these crazy parties.
I love them."
All these fucking assholes.
It's like, dude, they need to put all these people on the fucking stand.
Not just diddy, every single one of them.
Yeah, I don't know.
It is hard.
Use is a hard, when you have two consenting adults, two adults, no children, consent becomes

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odd.
It does.
It's murky and, you know, this is why it's like, but as a culture, we have to say this
is not acceptable.
You can't hold the keys to people's financial freedom or to their career with your dick.

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Right.
Like, that's foul.
Like, there has to be some kind of professionalism.
There has to be another way that doesn't, that access isn't through sex.
If there was any other way, right, maybe they would choose a different way, but maybe they
think this is just, if it's not diddy, it's somebody else.

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But I don't know the system enough to be like, well, you didn't have to go that route.
I think that maybe that's the route with all of these people.
And I think that that's why they don't want to name everybody.
It's because, and once they become famous, now they are the ones wielding the power.

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It gets dicey for sure.
But that, anyway, we'll get through and I'm going to go to the verdict.
Having the verdict, like having them find him guilty is, is society saying, we don't want
this.
Putting Harvey Weinstein in prison is the rest of us saying, this is disgusting.

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We can't live like this.
Putting diddy in prison is the same thing.
We have to say enough is enough.
You can't just do this to people.
It's disgusting.
Right.
It's horrendous.
I don't know.
But I get what you mean.
It's like, yes, they are consenting.
Consent is, I wouldn't like to say consenting.

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They are adults seemingly making a decision in their interest of furthering their career or
being close to power and money or whatever the thing that's drawing.
What the fuck?
What diddy's personality like to be like, okay, I'll fuck all of these people without a

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condom.
Yeah.
Just so you'll hang out with me.
He better be funny.
He better be fucking funny.
He's got to have some clever.
Sometimes it's funny.
Maybe he's clever or he's got a great personality.
I could not.
I just, I, and this is me with a completely unqualified, depending about any of this shit,

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because I don't know the law and I barely have any good morality or ethics, but I, I, this
is where my, you're a guys guy.
That's your fucking problem.
No, this is where my conservative fucking, this is where my red hat gets on.
Because I think of stuff like with Tim Pull.
I give it, I, and I know where I'm not a guys guy.

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I give him shit for accepting half a million dollars a month from these Russians and playing
the, well, I didn't fucking know.
I'm just making these videos to get 2000 views of video.
What was I supposed to do, not take that for a million a month?
I just, I'm so busy and I got all these other things.
I make a ton of money.
That's nothing to me.
Like that was his argument.
I'm like, bullshit motherfucker.

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If you're that fucking busy and making that much money, maybe you should have a, a team
to look into this.
Yeah.
Because I think like you have some ownership of that.
In the same way that when I get sponsorship offers, I don't just accept all of them because
sometimes I don't agree with their products.
And I'm like, this feels like snake oil.
I'm not doing it.
Yeah.
I just, I don't know.
It's just like the personal accountability thing for me is kind of like, I don't know.

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And I'm not saying like, oh, I want these women to go to prison.
Like I think they're victims for sure.
No doubt.
No doubt, unequivocally.
But also I'm kind of like, you should also like when I'm looking at these texts, I'm like,
you guys are assholes too.
Yeah.
I am sorry that you got abused and I'm sorry that you got intoxicated by the fame.

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And the same way that I give Tim Pohl shit for accepting half a million and pretending
like, oh, I fucking know.
You should have some self responsibility to look into things and be like, are you doing this
for the right reason?
Is this wrong?
Yeah.
I mean, I think one guy to prison in the rest of his life.
I don't know.
And maybe he needs to go, he has, he's at the top of the fucking pyramid.
Yeah.

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For sure.
Okay.
Strike that from the record.
He's at the top of the pyramid.
He's a core talk.
He's a person doing the illegal shit, funding it and then just be like, well, they liked
it and be like, oh, there.
So that's equal.
That's not fucking equal.
No, I don't think so.
But I'm also like, that's not equal.

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I guess I just think the way the media portrays Cassie is as this, you know, strong, like victim,
right?
But in a way, when you start talking about this and looking at the text message, you're
like, I don't know.
You were like, you were abused and like that sucks for you.
You were a victim for sure.
But then there's also this other side of it.

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It's like, but you also knew you were participating in these crimes.
You knew this.
Yeah.
You knew he was trying to blow up your boyfriend's car.
Yes.
The same way.
I just don't know where do you, where do you draw the line?
The families allowed their children to be raped by church leaders.
Okay.

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That's a fair, that's a fair, uh, rebuttal.
In the same fucking way.
The same way that parents like, oh, walk it off.
Yeah.
Or they just say, well, he made a mistake.
We have to forgive him because God commands us to forgiveness.
Same fucking way.
There has to be accountability.
I think that's the argument for the females too.

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It's like they're observing these crimes happening and this awful abuse happening.
Yes.
It's like you should have done the right thing years ago.
Yeah.
And letting all these other women get abused now.
And like you want us to put you up on our shoulders like this hero and it's like, I don't think
that I don't think that's right.
Eventually, right?
Yeah.
I admire that on one level, but I'm also, but, but this is where it's, this is where culture

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is taken.
It's our culture in America.
It has turned this thing in this idea of, uh, anything for money is acceptable.
Yeah, because she actually, the whole thing started because she sued him for money.
Hush money, I think is where this all started.
For the book, right?

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But that's it.
I don't know.
The whole thing feels sleazy from the top to bottom to me.
Right.
And like, I, it sucks because now it sort of puts me in the light of these asshole men who
critique women.
And like, I'm not trying to be that either.
I think that's gross.
I'm going to say, what was she wearing?
Like, I don't like that either.
Right.
I'm not trying to be that either.

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I just, I'm just free styling some, a lot of feelings I have about all this and that sucks
because this is the reason women don't come forward because they're like, now I got assholes
like me sitting over here.
Hey, maybe you should have fucking stepped away.
You know, it's like that sucks, man.
I don't want to be that either, but I'm also like, also do want to like present that because
there's a lot of men out there that hold the same opinion.

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I'm sure when they read through this and they say, well, why were these chicks into
it then?
You know, and I don't think they were.
I think they were.
They weren't into it.
They were literally saying, I had to say those things to have access to him.
Yeah.
And that's where the defense has to sell the jury.
This is where morality comes.
That verse of the story and the, or no, the prosecutors and the defense is going to say,

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no, they really were into this because of X, Y and Z.
So I'm just saying, I don't think this is a clear outcome, but I don't know law.
So how do I know?
I think when you talk to somebody, who you need to talk to is a counselor that deals with
trauma.
Yeah, that's true.
That's fair.
And how trauma affects your brain and how trauma, this isn't, that's not my specialty.

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I don't know how what happened.
I know that like trauma can make you forget.
And I know that trauma can do all kinds of crazy fucking things to you and and Ben.
I think when you watch a lot of people think that this is normal, that you're like, okay,
I guess this is just what we do here or whatever.
But like, you need to talk to somebody who we should have on as somebody who is a trauma

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counselor so that we could talk about what this actually looks like in human beings.
I wonder if they had that, if they had any of that on the stand.
I didn't, I don't recollect it.
It might have been a missed opportunity by the prosecutors.
Yeah.
Of being like, okay, well, let's talk about why these women did this thing.

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But they even said themselves is like, well, I didn't want to do this.
I wanted to be in relationship with Ditty.
And whatever that driving force was, was money, power, or celebrity.
Or maybe he's the most charming fucking person on the planet, which I highly doubt because
he was fucking drug fueled.

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But you know, people stay in horrible situations for lots of reasons.
Yeah, that's fair.
I just, I don't want people, because I know people are infuming.
I go, but I do want to represent, I think this is a good conversation because I do want to
represent the, look it up.
Look up what, you're right next to your little computer.
Type it in.
Let's see.
Let's look at that.

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Chatchy PT.
What is, how does trauma present?
How does trauma.
In a person.
In a person.
And the person.
Well, it says it can manifest in various ways, including emotional, cognitive, physical,
and behavioral symptoms.
But what I'm saying is, do you think the defense can argue, well, Ditty's got brain damage

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because he was traumatized, X amount of years ago or something like that.
And that's what that book was talking about.
It's like, where does this, how far back do you take this?
You know, I think you take it to every crime.
That's who gets punished for the crimes is the one facilitating the crime.

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But you know how, you know, on the show, first 48, if you're out with your friends committing
a felony and one of them decides he's going to shoot kill somebody and let's say you're
out with your friends, you steal a car and one of them decides he's going to shoot kill
somebody.
Now you're all going down on murder charges.
You know it's crazier.
Let's say your friend gets, let's say me and you go out and rob somebody and you get killed

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because me and you were doing the felony.
I could be charged with your death.
Yes.
Is that wild?
It is.
It's pretty fucking crazy.
Anyway, all right.
I don't know if that's right though.
Do you think that that's right?
I don't know.
I think that that's wild.
Yeah.
I think for me, I should be charged with the crime that I was committing, but I don't

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know if it's right to be charged with the out, you know, my friends murder.
Yeah.
Because was there something like this?
I think that's pretty wild.
It happened where some guys were out baseball batting the oboxes and the how the homeowner
shot and killed one of the people.

(32:58):
And because that was a crime, then the other people get charged for it.
I don't remember.
I don't know.
We used to watch first 48 of all the time and that shit was crazy.
It is crazy.
How they would go after.
But I mean, and like, here's the thing.
This is what sucks is like children don't know that.
Yeah.

(33:18):
So it's like when people are out here hanging out with their friends, they don't realize
the implications of what this could mean.
If your friend decides to do something insane all of a sudden, you're like, whoa,
what the fuck?
I wasn't, I didn't want to do that.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, all right.
Let me get back to it.

(33:41):
Do you want to sit here and blame the victims a little more?
Stop.
Just stop.
To be clear.
You're such a fucking man.
I'm just presenting the argument and I think you think this.
Do I think this?
Yeah.
I do think it.

(34:01):
I don't think.
I don't hide behind that you don't believe this.
I don't, I think you're a guy's guy.
I don't support it in the sense that I'm like, well, you need to throw these women in prison.
I don't, I don't feel that way about it.
But the thought crosses my mind of it because that's what the, that's what the defense is
trying to put across is like, hey, these women seem to be into it.
Are you sure you want to?
Men cannot help.
I don't know.

(34:22):
It doesn't seem like they were into it.
Men cannot help but to constantly find excuses for other men.
And you do that.
You look at the thing because you're so worried about like the thing getting.
Well, I don't defend Tim Pohl for it to go back to that example.
Like, I don't, yeah, but in sexual stuff, you guys all do this.
Maybe it's a good learning lesson for me.

(34:44):
But like I, but like with the Harvey Weinstein thing, like that seems more cut dry to me.
I'm like, yeah, this guy was basically, you know, assaulting these women under the assumption
of movie role things, you know, with Arkelli, it seems similar to.
I don't, I don't understand your logic then.

(35:05):
I don't know.
I guess because I didn't see the text messages and stuff between Harvey and the actresses.
It's weird because even after they get away from the abuse, they're still like, hey, Mary
Christmas, diddy, and it's weird to me.
I'm like, hey, that's like what kind of brainwashing experiment is this?
Yeah, but then you believe in MK Ultra.

(35:26):
You think diddy was doing MK Ultra?
No, but you believe in that shit.
So what I'm saying is that you believe that the mind is malleable, but then you can't, it
ends at trauma for you.
I mean, I don't think it ends at trauma.
I mean, as part of the MK Ultra techniques was to traumatize people.

(35:48):
Yes, but then what it ends at sexuality then.
Or like relationship.
Look, I'm just debating the defense's argument is what I'm saying.
Okay.
That's all.
I think you believe it.
I'm presenting it.

(36:09):
I don't feel strongly about it.
No, I'm just presenting.
I'm like, well, that is kind of like, I do, it does make me wonder.
Yes, because you're like sitting here like a fucking bro.
But you gotta have, but you gotta have, the chicks should they wanted it.
But you gotta have these conversations for people, right?
Yeah.
That's all I'm trying to facilitate here is the conversation because there's people out there
who are thinking this because that's what the defense is doing.

(36:33):
And like, when I read through it, I think, I don't know what the law is for this.
I think this is, it does seem like they're presenting this argument.
And I'm like, if I'm just some idiot and they don't add some clarity to this, I'm like,
maybe he's going to get off.
I think that this is the exact reason we have to have sex ed.

(36:54):
This right here, this, the boys do not, and even the girls do not understand coercion.
We are not understanding consent.
We do not understand the nuance of sexuality and human relationship with each other.
It is confusing and it is murky and there is a thousand trip falls for people.

(37:18):
And if you do not have conversations with children so that it becomes black and white and clear,
then this is what the fuck happens.
Yeah, totally.
I agree.
There's so many spaces for abuse and it's veiled in attraction.
It's veiled in want.

(37:39):
It's veiled in love.
I'm going to put that in there, quotes in love.
And we don't even fucking see it.
That's what, so it's so important to have these conversations and yet you have a half of
the fucking country not wanting them to be had.
They're not having them.

(38:01):
They're not having them with their children, but they definitely don't want to have their
children having these conversations with anybody else that might have like a well-rounded,
educated opinion of it.
Right.
They want to get rid of sex at the pool.
No, this is woke.
This is woke.
You hear how fucking dumb that sounds?

(38:21):
And these are parents saying this.
Outrageous.
It's outrageous to me.
This is why me and you sitting here and fumbling over this stupid fucking trial is the
exact fucking reason we need it.
Totally.
I agree.
Well, that's why I wanted to bring it up.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not defending Ditty.

(38:42):
Well, you are, but anyways.
Oh, stop it.
I'm not defending Ditty.
I'm just saying that I don't know where the law is on if he's committing crimes.
Yeah, where's the crime at?
And these women are participating in the crimes like are they now held liable?
Because like that's the law as far as I understand it.

(39:05):
Did they get immunity?
I just don't know.
I don't know the answer.
I think to a certain extent, let's say I had children and I'm dating you and I turn
to blind eye to you abusing our child.
Yeah.
Or let's say it's our child.

(39:26):
It's not even my child.
Let's say it's our child and you're abusing our child.
Okay.
Yeah.
Or I even do it with you abusing our child.
We both should be held accountable.
Yeah.
What if I'm abusing it and you are not turned by and turning a blind eye?

(39:48):
Her rep is I find that a business.
They are.
They hold mothers accountable.
Yeah, they put them in on trial.
They go to prison for that shit.
Even if they're the ones not doing it.
So yes, I mean, we're women.
I think that women get held accountable more than men get held accountable.

(40:11):
I don't think we are the ones, the victim blaming sits on our fucking shoulders.
If we come forth and say whatever, you got all the people sitting over there, well, what
did you do?
Instead of looking at what the men do, it's like, well, how did you participate in it?
Yeah.
You're doing it right now, you know?
So then people don't even want to come forward to have these conversations because they don't

(40:34):
want to be scrutinized under this light of their own mistakes.
And then putting them into positions of things that they maybe were okay with a certain aspect
of it.
But maybe I'd be like, okay, you know what?
I'll fuck this hot guy in front of you for some time.
But maybe not 20 fucking four hours.

(40:55):
Maybe my consent ended an hour or two.
And I was like, yeah, I'll fuck this guy in front of you while you do whatever you do in
the corner.
Maybe and then all of a sudden I'm like, hey, I'm fucking done.
Or maybe my consent ended at I want him to wear a rubber.
And I didn't see anything.
And him saying, no, you have to not do you cannot do that.

(41:20):
All of this stuff is like exactly what's happening.
And then you just be like, well, you sat there and wanted it.
I wanted I texted about fucking the guy not for 24 hours and not without a condom.
You know, there's nuance to it.
Totally.
I agree.

(41:41):
Men just have such a hard time seeing that shit.
Weird.
And so do women to be fair.
We had this conversation at the salon.
Oh really?
Yeah.
So why are you breaking me over the call?
Because you're sitting in front of me and I'm going to yell at you for a minute.
I'm just presenting.
I'm presenting the same thing that the defense who gets paid millions and millions and millions

(42:03):
of dollars because the defense knows like this is a valid thought that people have.
And I like, I don't really understand it.
I can't I can't.
I'm okay with the law saying they like, no, this guy is going to prison.
Whatever.
I'm okay with that.
I'm fine with that.
In reference to Diddy.

(42:23):
Yeah.
Diddy is going to prison.
Nobody has a problem with that.
Right.
I'm just saying that there's going to be people out there who are reading all these transcripts
and who are going to men probably right.
We're going to read all this stuff and say, well, it can't be so easy.
It was the two.
Yeah.
So like I'm presenting is some kind of fringy wild argument.
I'm pretending something I'm like, I don't really get it either.

(42:45):
I do think that's kind of a hard thing to wrap my head around.
And you're saying, well, it's because it's abuse and that changes your brain.
And I'm like, okay, like that's fair.
I wish that we would have had a psychologist on there to explain that.
Yeah.
I mean, that might have been something.
Because I'm supportive of that.
I'm okay with that.
I'm like, I do agree with that.
I think that he was being abusive and using his power and money to seduce these women

(43:08):
and do this horrific shit they were having to do.
I think where they get a little bit more accountability held is if they, let's say they're
pulling their money together to buy this to buy the hooker.
If Ditty's like, hey, I want to get a hooker.

(43:28):
Let's pull the money.
Then maybe then it would be like, okay, well, now you're implicated in this crime as well.
Like you just had a sex worker fly across the fucking country.
Which honestly, by the way, I kind of feel like we should make prostitution legal.
Yeah, I agree.
I have a hard time feeling like that's a crime that they flew in sex workers from

(43:51):
across state lines.
That's part of the thing they're trying to get them on for sex trafficking is.
Yeah, well, that's the fucking law.
It is the law totally.
I don't think it should be the law.
If that person's an adult, I just think that we should not regulate it, but have people
tested and do things the right way, but still.

(44:13):
All right.
Should we move on?
Go ahead, you got me talking fast over here.
I'm on the fucking wrong team here.
Bad news.
I'm just trying to.
You're on the wrong fucking team, bro.
I'm presenting the argument of the wrong team and I'm also saying, and I kind of like get
how they see that.
I don't know that I agree with it, but like I don't think there.

(44:33):
I don't look at them and say, you guys are horrific monsters, but I do think I'm like,
you're wrong.
You shouldn't think that, but like, and here's why is what I would like to articulate,
but I can't.
I don't know it.
I agree.
In a perfect fucking world.
The name of Kanye's next album, which we're going to talk about.
In a perfect world, everybody has a perfect moral compass and they know that money isn't worth

(45:03):
your torn up vagina for 12, 24 hours.
I want everyone to know and you too, Josie.
I am a woman's man.
I support women's rights across the fucking board.
I know you do.
I want to defend women.
You get like this.
It makes me side, I you a little.
But I'm an I'm an of man to be like, I want the fellas who are listening who feel this way

(45:24):
because there's tons of them out there, right?
And women to be fair, I've had this conversation with women.
Yeah.
So, okay.
All right.
Moving on.
And I don't think and it's not like I don't see your point.
I see your point, but we still have to like.
I think that we as a how do you move forward in that?
We have to understand it.
We have to wrap our heads around and understand it.

(45:46):
Yeah, but we still have yes, there has to be an understanding of the nuance of everything.
But then we also have to say there cannot this cannot continue.
So how do we make it so that it cannot continue?
Right.
And then that means that somebody that holds more of the responsibility and maybe that

(46:09):
looks like financial and maybe that looks like a power dynamic.
Now gets held more accountable.
Right.
So you're saying lock Cassie up.
No, she doesn't have any fucking money.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
Oh, I was like, what are you talking about?
Okay, good.
Good.

(46:30):
Good.
Good.
Good God.
All right.
Moving on.
Jane says it bothered her.
She started beefing with Diddy because she saw him buying other women gifts and taking other
women on trips that she didn't get.

(46:52):
Then she talks about the longest they call them.
So the freak offs are now called hotel nights with Jane.
That's what Diddy calls them with Jane for some reason.
Hotel nights.
Okay.
But what's the fucking difference between a freak off and the cook the cuckolding?
It's the same to me.
I don't know.
There's a different freak off was like group.

(47:15):
I don't understand it because they don't mention any names of they don't they when they
talk about the freak offs or the hotel nights, we don't hear about.
Oh, yeah, all these celebrities were here.
We don't hear that.
We just hear about Diddy and the female he's with and the sex workers.
Like that's really all you hear about.
But there's different things.
So my wife and she could you're talking about these crazy parties and all these other

(47:37):
celebrities.
They must have been there.
What did they see?
I thought that the judge came out and said that they weren't going to name any of the other
people that was at these parties.
Diddy, I lost track of everything.
I don't remember that.
It seems like it.
We sure aren't talking about them.
Did Ashley Kutcher leave the country because he's worried about his name being brought up
on this?

(47:57):
Yeah.
He was real.
Tell me with Diddy Ferbett.
Russell Brand, all these scumbags.
So Russell Brand's extra gross, I think, because he tries to wrap it.
I just asked so much.
Listen, I thought he was funny, but I don't like it.

(48:19):
Like Ashley Kutcher was a cut.
He was cutty from jump.
He did what you expected him to do.
Okay.
And then he said, Brand, Axon Lighten, and that bugs me even more.
Because I'm like, if you're going to be this, you knew better than.

(48:41):
You knew better than.
Yeah.
If you're going to sit here with your shocker tea on and talking about spirituality and
then you do this stuff, I think that's the next level of fucking gross.
Well, the wellness is a much larger gift than any other.
That in religion.

(49:03):
That's the tax-free gift.
Yeah.
The tax-sheltering gift.
Yes.
So gross.
So they're talking to Jane on cross-examination and they talk about the longest hotel night party.
And this was in New Year's 2022.

(49:23):
Do you want to know how long the longest hotel night party was?
Are we talking about like a group thing or just diddy a chick and one other guy?
It sounds like a chick and dudes.
Okay.
A multiple men.
Multiple prostitutes.
Three men for this one.
Okay.
This example.
Okay.

(49:43):
How long?
Three days.
That's abuse.
That's horrific.
Three days?
That's abuse.
This sounds like monster behavior.
I'm going to put my finger in your nose for three fucking days.
My finger in your nose and you tell me how long you like that.
Yeah, that's awful.

(50:04):
No woman, even that Bonnie Blue, what did she, she did sex for like a, how many hours that
was?
That was three days.
That's abuse.
That's literally, that's, that's, there's nothing you can wrap around that to be like,
she can send it to that.
There's no fucking way.
Well afterward she saw diddy go on vacation with another woman and he, she was, that makes

(50:28):
more sense.
This is planning the seeds of me for three days and then you don't even take me on vacation.
She didn't break out with them for two more years though.
So, the defense is going to present that as their argument.
Then diddy's lawyer is reading text from Jane to diddy various texts, professing her love.

(50:49):
You know, again, they're trying to say she wasn't a victim and-
You know where the most rape happens?
In marriage.
Did you know that?
I only knew that because you told me already.
Yeah.
That's the where, just be aware.
Go ahead.
And this is where the defense pushes this, I don't really understand it, but they're

(51:10):
saying that- because diddy was paying for her rent of this home.
Like she got paid a stipend, right?
To be his girlfriend.
But she now lives in a home larger than the one diddy was paying for because she started
to dress business while she was with diddy using diddy's investment money.

(51:31):
And this business is doing well apparently and now she's in an even nicer home.
She's making a lot of money, I guess.
And the defense is saying you started this business with diddy's investment money, right?
And she- I guess she's like, yeah, whatever.
But then they're trying to say- and then they're like, did he ever ask for the money back
on the investment?
Even after you broke up, she's like, no.

(51:53):
So to try to present this kind of- again, they're trying to murky out the waters of-
Maybe that's part of his business.
Maybe he's not a bad guy.
Yeah, but maybe he knew that the fucking hammer was going to fall at some point.
It was hush money a little bit.
Or like they knew he knew that at some somewhere that he could be held accountable for all of this
shit.
And that this moneyed up the waters.

(52:18):
He knew.
Yeah.
I mean, it's going to be up to the jury to, you know.
So then the next day, it's revealed she didn't want to do these hotel nights anymore of these
sex parties, right?
Apparently confronted Diddy about this, he threatened to stop paying her rent.

(52:40):
So that's your coercion a little bit.
And then she's off the stand.
Then we go to day 23 of the trial, June 13th.
And the Homeland Security Special Agent Andre Le Mone takes the stand.
He's the one that rated Diddy matching in Los Angeles.
So is that considered his home then?
If he's paying the bill or is it in her name and she's just making the payments?

(53:03):
It was rent.
She was just living there.
Oh, she was just renting.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
They start showing photos.
People buy.
Huh?
Why wouldn't you buy at home?
You had that kind of money.
I'm buying something.
I'm buying it in my fucking name.
Yeah, I'm going through all those sex parties stuff.
If you're making fun of me.

(53:23):
Yeah.
You're buying me a house.
I'm not just getting.
Maybe the maybe the maybe he knew like he was like, no, it's got to be a rental situation.
That way the second I stopped paying the rent, you're out type of thing.
Yes.
It's like women, you are like, you better hustle harder if you're trying to like, you know,

(53:46):
there you are again, blaming the fucking women.
I'm not blaming her.
Oh my god.
When does it end?
Oh my god.
Take it easy.
Take a fucking chill pill.
I'm just saying it to me, I'm like, if you're trying to do this to be to cash in, right?
Uh-huh.
Which is.
Got to be smarter, girls.
Yeah.

(54:07):
It seems crazy.
Don't do the rental thing.
You got to be smarter.
I feel like you're not paying my rent.
You're paying my mortgage.
Yeah.
That's under my name.
Then there's photos of the items recovered going around in the news.
I don't know if you've seen them.
I don't know.
What were they?
Boxes of baby oil and lube.

(54:29):
Oh.
This is where they recovered in Los Angeles.
Um, guns.
He had drums for the guns.
I don't know what a drum is.
It's like a 50 round basically magazine.
Oh.
It's like a circular thing.
You put on a clock.
Jesus.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um.
Does that then become like a semi-automatic?

(54:51):
If you put a switch on it or a button as they call it, you can make it a fully automatic.
What semi-automatic mean?
Like you have to like hit the top of it.
Like your semi means it'll do bursts.
Okay.
As far as I'm not a gun guy.
Like that's what the damn 16s we were using in the military.

(55:12):
You could put it to semi and it would do three round bursts.
If you held it down, one two three.
Maybe I have to let go of the trigger then pull it again.
One two three.
So it's like how long you hold the trigger and how many rounds come out with how long
you hold the trigger down?
Yeah.
So if I had like an automatic weapon, I would hold the trigger down and it would just go
and tell the bullets were gone.

(55:33):
Yeah.
If it was fully automatic, yeah.
You just pull the trigger once, hold it down and all the everything in the magazine unloads.
But if it's semi-automatic, it would do burst.
Like, however, however many rounds go through.
Yeah.
A regular gun would be like, I have to move my finger every time I want to pull it to go.

(55:54):
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Yeah.
Got it.
Yeah.
And the switches they'll unload the thing quick.
I mean, it's like, I mean, it's like a second.
It's like, brrrr.
Done.
It's crazy.
Huh.
Very violent.
I mean, it's expensive.
It's just to be running through like that.

(56:14):
Well, they say that if you go fully automatic, your accuracy goes way down, right?
That's the argument against it.
You're just like, fuck it.
Yeah.
Like a hunter wouldn't use an automatic or semi.
I don't think.
I don't know how many of my guns are hunting.
So.
Okay.
Then Kanye West shows up at the courthouse in support of Diddy wearing all white.

(56:40):
And he goes in and he says, like an angel he is.
He sure is.
And he sits next to Christian coms.
That's King Coms.
That's Diddy's son.
Okay.
Because he's in the courtroom.
He shows up.
They ask him if he's there to support Diddy.
He says, yes.
He goes in Kanye does.
Okay.
He sits next to Christian Coms for 40 minutes and then leaves.

(57:05):
And just a couple days after this instance, he releases an album with.
Christian Coms.
So my thought is he's just there to ask him about the album or something.
Or it was like a publicity stunt.
Yeah.
Just something to get his name in the news.
The both of their names together.

(57:26):
Because that's all Kanye cares about his publicity for some reason.
Yeah.
No matter how he can get it, he'll take it.
It's embarrassing.
He's terrible.
It's kind of.
Kind of.
He's another person.
It's like.
He went to prison.
Like I wouldn't.
If he was doing horrific shit this whole time, I'd be like, he's kind of an asshole.
So good riddance.
Yeah.

(57:46):
Same way with Diddy.
But it.
Do you think that if like, do you so listen to our Kelly's music?
I don't listen to R&B, so no.
But if it came on, I wouldn't turn it off.
I'm not like just so disgusted.
I would turn it off.
Ignition.
You don't listen to Ignition.
But is it called that one?
That's called that song.

(58:06):
Actually mixed it with Ignition.
That's a great fucking song.
He's got tons of great songs.
Our Kelly really does have that.
That album we had in the mid 2000s was so good.
Yeah.
When he had a lot of, it was more like dance hall beats and stuff.
Yes.
Which I liked way better than his R&B stuff.
Yeah.
I felt like I didn't love.
You know when everybody was like, cream in their jeans over, I believe I can fly.

(58:29):
Oh, hated it.
I hated that fucking song.
I always hated that song.
I hated it.
Wasn't that on like that, that, that Bugs Bunny movie?
Space Jam.
Yeah, was that Space Jam?
I think so.
I hated that movie.
I hate, well, I don't know about the movie.
I didn't watch the movie, but I hated that fucking song.
I put my feelings in Murphy's couch.
Yeah, boy, I feel like the movie's couch.

(58:50):
But all the other like the dance shit.
You in the spot.
I'm like that shit.
Trying to make me look bad.
It's hard for me.
It's hard for me to throw out the art with the, with the artist.
Totally.
I don't support that.
You know, I know I just wish that somehow we could take that money and do something like

(59:13):
by therapy for them.
I know.
And then you take the money and do something good with it.
Listen, you can't like be a cut.
Sorry.
I know.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
You're kind of amazing, but that doesn't give you a license to be the most disgusting
human being on the market.
The artist are oftentimes very flawed.
And then you give them a famous money and it just amplifies all that.

(59:34):
And it's like, man.
But I also don't want to just listen to gospel music.
There are pieces of shit too.
But I'm not going to stay here and pretend.
People like go to the guy.
Yeah, do you see the guy?
People that go to church want to act like they're fucking better.
You're not.
Case in point.
You're not.
Case in point.
Remember DC talk?
No.
There's like a Christian.
I don't know.

(59:55):
Pop band from the 90s and something.
Name a song.
I couldn't tell you.
I've never listened to that.
Oh, okay.
My B.P. is in the DC talk.
Who?
B.P.
My man B.P.
I don't know who that is.
You know who he is.
I've heard he's in the DC talk.
But there is one of the guys from DC talk.
So fair.
When I find out I like a song that I didn't know was Christian, that fucking makes me so mad.

(01:00:19):
I'm like, don't do that.
What about Creed?
Don't trick.
Don't trick me.
I know exactly.
Creed, it makes him fucking nerdy.
And then also, you made the puddles of mud.
I like that song.
Puddle of mud.
But whatever it is.
Is that a Christian band?
Yes.
No, it's not.
Look it up.
The one's like, she fucking hates me.
That's what I was saying.

(01:00:40):
No, no, no.
Is that what they sing?
Yeah.
No.
What's the other?
Clay's.
Jarza Clay.
Oh.
I can't remember.
What is he, tell me what Jarza Clay sing.
It says, "Flood, like a child."
What was their most popular?
I wasn't listening to their fucking album.

(01:01:03):
I just had the song in my head.
I would have sang it to you, but now it's gone because you started singing.
She fucking hates me.
Fuck it, hates me.
That's like divorce dad rock.
Yeah, that's for sure divorce dad rock.
There's also called that, I think it's also called acid rock.
Is it?
Amy Grant was another one that was like a pop.

(01:01:26):
That's good song.
Dude, I don't know.
I'm finding articles that want to nerd out on the fucking ins and outs of Jarza.
Worlds apart, is that it?
I got to hear it.
I don't remember.
I don't give a fuck anymore.
I don't.
I don't care.
But anyway, the guy from DC Talk, let's see.
I'm going to look on the news because I wasn't prepared to talk about this.

(01:01:47):
Your Christian rock singer Michael Tate from DC Talk alleged of sexual misconduct.
You don't say I want to say it's of a child.
Yeah, groomer, grooming and sexual assault.
I don't believe it.
Believe it.
Is he a liberal?
I don't know.

(01:02:07):
Did he work for Hillary?
Was he best friends with Tom Hanks?
I don't fucking believe it.
In fact, the article I'm looking at, Julie Roy's.com shows him standing with Trump with receiving
the prayer.
Everyone's channeling the prayers through Donald Trump and that's he's one of us.
Was he a drag queen?
Did he go to pride?

(01:02:28):
I don't fucking believe you.
Wow.
Says he groomed and sexually assaulted numerous victims allegedly.
Anyway.
So Kanye West, he releases this album and it's called Never Stop.
This released on June 26th and it's King Holmes, Kanye West, Northwest, some other features

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on there.
It's a Nebo Baby album.
I hate Nebo Baby albums.
Okay.
Yes.
And it's a, it's got a song there called Diddy Free that was supposed to be on Yez New
album, which is now called in a perfect world.
That's why when you said that earlier, I said, hey, that's funny.
It used to be called Cuck.

(01:03:16):
He was going to call it Cuck.
He's into that too though, isn't he?
Yes.
Well, that's allegedly.
It was brought up on this trial.
But he said it.
Didn't, didn't Kanye West say that he was into it?
He says a lot of shit.
Who knows?
No.
What do you think that is?
Do you, could you like, I know that's not your thing.
No.

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You get very upset or jealous.
No, I would not be your thing.
But put yourself in the place of.
Do you see a thing that could be sexy about that?
The only thing that could be sexy about it is we as men are very visual creatures and
me being physically attracted to you.

(01:03:59):
In some ways, it would be cool to see visually you having sex like I'm watching a porn.
Of me?
Yeah.
With somebody else.
You would be like, yeah, for me to see that other vantage point.
Yeah.
And you would hate that.
Or me, or we film our own sex tape and then I watch it later, but then I got to look at
my ugly ass and be like, is that what I look like?

(01:04:21):
So I would want to hire one of the jiggleos.
It looks great.
So I guess that's what it would come from.
You would lose your mind.
Yeah.
I don't know if I could handle that.
I'll answer that.
You couldn't.
That would not be your thing.
Yeah, but I don't, I try to understand like, okay, I wonder, I wonder if there are women
cucks.

(01:04:42):
Sure.
There are.
Are you just saying that?
You're just saying that.
I'm not just saying that.
I've seen it on the porn hub.
Oh, you have.
Yeah, they call them cut queens.
Oh, I think I assume that's the term.
You're out.
Oh, I don't know every once in a while when I peruse.
Do you ever watch those porn?

(01:05:06):
The cuckleding porn?
Are there porn?
Yeah.
You have?
Yeah.
Oh.
But it's more about the, it's not really the scene.
It's not like a thing of like, ooh, that's so hot.
That's his wife.
It's not like that.
It's more of like, I'm more visual.
So it's like, is she looks good?
Like, he looks.

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Oh, so it's more about the sex than the scene.
Yeah.
So you're looking at the stars and the sex that they're having.
Like, the scenario they're sitting.
Right.
Right.
And I think that's why you had to be looking for that.
That's why like when there's those, you know how they say, oh, everyone's into incest porn.
Like, I don't think they're really into it.

(01:05:48):
I think they're just watching because I, I don't know, I'm a man.
I would like, I think most men are similar.
I would think it's more like, no, she's hot.
I don't give a fuck what the fake scene is.
I don't give a shit.
It's like why they got rid of acting in porn 20 years ago.
Yeah.
And porn just have all these acting and script and scenes and like, nobody gives a shit

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about it.
That's an interesting take.
Oh.
Okay.
So his album was going to be called Cuck, but now it's called in a perfect world.
Yeah, but maybe that's just you.
Maybe that's not how all men are.
Yeah, I think so.
I don't think I'm like super kinky.
So.
No, you're not.
Well, so do you think that men, other men are searching the weird shit because they want

(01:06:32):
the context of that?
I'm sure.
I would guess like, I don't, you know, I'm not everybody, but I'm just saying, I think, I
think you know how like porn hub has a bunch of like incest videos and step mom videos.
Yeah.
I don't think that every click on there is because it says step mom or a bang their mom.

(01:06:55):
Like, I don't, I don't think that I could be wrong.
I don't know.
I think it's more of like she looks hot.
I think when they talk, it makes it worse.
Yeah, totally.
Yes.
I agree.
When I, when I watch something, I'm like, oh, don't.
In fact, don't say any more authentic.
It is the more I like it.
That's why I like amateur porn because it's like the woman and the man is really into

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it.
Whereas like these porn stars, like it's fake.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know if the chicks really into it.
Sometimes they are, but not always.
Often times not.
Hmm.
Okay.
So, yes, anything else?
No, I just was sorry.
I was spiraling.
It's spiraling in my attention deficit.
Go ahead.

(01:07:41):
So do you recall Kanye West also had, well, let me save that part.
Let's get back to the new album with King Cones.
Okay.
There's a track on there called Lonely Roads that was like the first track released.
And it was controversial because Sean Cones was on the original version of the song along

(01:08:02):
with Northwest Kanye's daughter.
Oh.
And obviously people are like, hey, this guy is like a sexual predator.
Why do you have him on the track with your daughter?
Right?
Okay.
I guess like the other side of that argument would be, well, just because they're on the same
track doesn't mean they're the same room together, but I get it.
Like, I understand what that argument is there.

(01:08:24):
And on top of that, it's like for all the awful monstrous, diddy things.
I don't think there's any underage stuff going on there.
Not that I saw.
That's fair.
Yeah, I think that's all women.
So it's like different kind of predator.
No, wait a minute.
No, that's wrong.
Was there an under, what the fuck?
What are you talking about?
There was allegations, but that's not in the court.

(01:08:44):
There's no, there was no, there was lawsuits against diddy claiming I him and supposedly
Jay Z.
Well, you remember the allegations I heard was that he messed around with usher and then
had usher get a hold of Bieber.
Yeah, yeah, the Bieber thing.

(01:09:05):
But no, that's in the trial.
Yeah.
That's all speculative allegations.
And I kind of heard that, I don't know.
This is all bullshit.
I don't know if it's like true or not, but I heard that there's videos of what is Will Smith

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son's name?
Oh, a nipple baby.
Willow, not the daughter.
And not Willow the boy though.
Yeah, geez.
Well, anyways, there's a video of him being like Chummy, like very comfortable with Bieber.
Yeah.
I think all those people had abuse of some kind happen to them.

(01:09:50):
Yeah, so I wonder where that abuse stems.
And then I heard that like Will Smith had a relationship with diddy.
I heard that too.
Yeah.
I think he's a weird dude.
I feel like he might, I feel he gives vibes like he's closeted gay.
Well, that's a lot.
I think that with all of this freak off stuff that a lot of that got like back barred.

(01:10:16):
A little bit like the homosexual stuff.
Now all of a sudden he's this heterosexual guy who just is into cuckling.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
Anyways.
So that song is on the new album.
And but it's not, but it's a version without diddy.

(01:10:38):
They apparently took his part off of there.
There's also a track on there called Kim, which I thought was about Kim Kardashian, but
it's not.
It's actually about Kim Porter, whose king comes as mother that died from alleged, from alleged
pneumonia.
Like everybody else.
Interesting.
Which ties into a whole deeper conspiracy of everything, of course.

(01:11:02):
And if people listened to my four hour deep dive, they would know that on my show.
And you recall there was also a Kanye West kid cutie album.
Do you remember that?
Kids called no kid sea ghosts.
I don't listen to it.
Yeah, I never listen to it.
I don't like kid cutie.
I don't like any of that back.
Back.
What's your name?

(01:11:22):
Yeah, kid cutie was dating Cassie.
Is that how they met was through this album?
No, because the kids who goes down was 2018.
Yeah, maybe that could be.
Was this before or after 2012 was when Diddy allegedly blew up kid cutie's car.

(01:11:44):
Yeah.
2018 is when Kanye West and kid cutie released kids sea ghosts together.
So what the fuck?
So I'm not sure how that connection happened, but it's where to see Kanye West at the court
supporting Diddy when I know.
Okay.
Interesting.
When kid cutie's part of this whole saga.

(01:12:07):
Yeah, I can't get into Kanye West anymore.
I'm not cancel culture.
If I hear a good track of his flow by, I'm like, okay, that was good.
There's a couple good tracks on that album.
I listen to it just for this show's sake.
Oh, yeah.
The production's pretty good.
But it's just the nepot baby thing.
I'm like, I don't need to hear King Holmes.

(01:12:30):
Yeah, there's one track on there where King Holmes is rapping about how he's this bad
guy.
He's a bad boy and they're playing Scarface samples.
And I'm like, this feels so goofy and tone deaf right now, especially when you watch some
of these videos of King Holmes and his dad diddy with a bunch of like, like the one with

(01:12:51):
a young girl that did he adopted?
Did you ever see that video?
The like young white girls.
Yeah.
They're like sitting on the lap on his lap.
What did that?
Did that even go anywhere?
Where are those kids?
Where are those children at?
Now, there's so much darker stuff behind us.
It's almost like they want to put a much trial for some lightweight shit.

(01:13:13):
Yes, that's what it seems like.
Just to like, either, I don't know what the end game is.
That is weird.
But you remember Kanye West, it diddy was a fed.
You remember that?
So what the fuck?
Why is he showing up supporting Diddy?
What's that about?
Is Kanye West a fed too?
Are they, is this all coordinated from intelligence operations?

(01:13:35):
The whole thing is bizarre.
It is bizarre.
I forgot that Kanye said he was a fed.
And it's like, and this is the lightest shit of the lightest shit of the allegations around
it.
It's the fluffiest of all the things.
Yes.
When we get to the verdict, we'll talk about how if he gets off the hook for this, you can't
get double jeopardy.

(01:13:55):
Maybe that's the point.
Maybe he's a fed and they want to get him off the hook for this.
And then all this other shit can kind of get lumped in.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
That's, they couldn't try him for this specific crimes again.
If it came out that he was abusing other people, he could get tried for those crimes.
Yeah, I think so.

(01:14:17):
Okay.
I was like, you don't know how lawyers are.
The same reason that Bill Cosby got out of prison and Harvey Weinstein got out of prison.
How, how did that happen?
These guys, they, they, oh, they're going to pay the price for the me too thing.
How did I, how did I, damn, they're getting it?
How did I, you know, Kelly.
I'm not going to get out yet.
Like if Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein, yeah.

(01:14:40):
If I was, our Kelly, I'd be like, what the fuck?
You know, yeah, yeah.
Anyways.
Okay, let's get, we got to get through the rest of the court.
Did he get some trouble for nodding again?
He's looking at the jury and nodding and the judge, he's saying, dickhead, he influenced

(01:15:00):
in the jury.
They threatened to take him out of the court for the rest of the trial for that.
He won't stop.
He got it on a can't stop.
He said, no, play, boy.
Then another assistant named Jonathan Perez takes a stand.

(01:15:22):
He said he would work, you know, basically 12 our days, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. making 85 to 100
a.m. he heard the party's being called King Knights.
So now you got freak offs, hotel nights and King Knights, which may be think of King Colms,
his son, Christian Colms.
Does that mean he was involved with these?

(01:15:42):
We don't know.
We don't ever get to the bottom of why, you know what I mean?
Or what, what are we talking about?
Yeah, we don't know.
And Jonathan Perez would set up food and liquor and music, red lights, loob, condoms and
honey because the honey and his male would be ill.
Wait, honey does.
That's what he says.

(01:16:02):
He would have to set up honey for the parties.
Like a glucose shot.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I never heard that before.
Sounds like a good grift.
We start selling honey for boner pills.
Oh, is that true?
Those are trying.
There's, oh, no, it's funny.

(01:16:25):
We talk about it.
There was a text message about cleaning up after one of the King Knights and a different
assistant said a different assistant says he slipped and fell twice trying to clean up
like some Scooby Doo shit.

(01:16:46):
Oh, man.
This is loob things out of control.
This loob and baby.
You watch him get like workman's comp for.
Yeah, I'm really sore.
It's a god damn it.
How much fucking loob you need?
16 boxes.
How was that not a secret that got out?

(01:17:08):
You know how like secrets get out and people talk about how some of these people weird fetishes?
How did none of these assistants ever leak to the press or something or TMZ?
Like, dude, daddy has an unhealthy obsession with baby oil and loob.
Honey has been demonstrated to improve libido, erectile function.
Okay.
There we go.
You heard her first.

(01:17:30):
That is, I don't know if just like shootin' some fucking honey is gonna, maybe it's like long
term use.
Good for allergies and boners.
That's the thing.
So this Jonathan Perez guy finds a video of Jane having sex on an iPad, meaning there's
sex videos.

(01:17:51):
And Perez would also say that he would buy, he's got immunity by the way.
Because he's also breaking the law.
Because he talks about how he's buying drugs and setting up king nights.
And he said he, this is where it gets fuzzy.
Because he says he did these outside of his job description.
He did them on a personal level because he liked Diddy so much and he wasn't getting paid

(01:18:12):
to set up for these hotel nights and buy drugs and all that.
Which today, to me sounds like he's trying to help Diddy from getting re-code.
Yes.
Right?
Doesn't that what that sounds like?
Like he's from the other side trying to help him out.
Yeah.
And again, to go back to the original flammatory argument we had earlier.

(01:18:35):
Well I mean I guess he's got immunity now but it's like I don't know.
All these other people are doing the shit too.
He's a fucking grown ass man.
You should know you're not allowed to buy drugs illegally.
You should know that you're getting prostitutes across state lines.
Yeah but how do you buy drugs if it's not illegally?
Right.
I don't know.

(01:18:55):
Like I think the law would say you should just have quit that job and said no I'm not doing
that.
That's illegal.
I guess.
And I'm not like a hoity toity about it.
I'm just saying.
Like if we're talking about point fingers of blame to people it's like well I don't know this
guy was breaking the wall too.
Even then nobody would ever whistle blow.
But it does sound like he's trying to fucking hook him up.
Yeah.

(01:19:16):
Then if you're going to be held accountable then there's no there will be no crime.
Nobody will say shit.
Mm-hmm.
June 14th.
They dismiss a juror number six because I guess he was this is against dicey because he was
lying about where he lived.

(01:19:37):
And the defense is pissed off because he was a 41 year old black man which you know it
puts us in the age range of if you were a ditty fan in the 90s growing up which I wasn't
but you know maybe he really likes ditty.
And they were placing with a 57 year old white man.

(01:19:59):
So the defense is like hey bitch what the fuck.
Then they talk about some text messages from that's a terrible thing for ditty.
I kind of think so.
Right.
So they talk about a whole different generation, a whole different race.
Yes.
And that one that generation not that flexible.
Yeah.

(01:20:20):
And he I think he's an engineer too.
So he's he's black and white nerd logic.
Yes.
So interesting.
Bad move.
So KK his his lady you know his chief of staff KK.
There's a text she says heads up he's probably about to do a wild king night tonight.

(01:20:41):
And they reply from the assistant says shit need to re up on baby oil and shit.
I think I'm going to have to go to five different fucking stores.
Just the logistics of getting that much baby oil.
It's wild.
Then there's a bunch of text messages about ditty buying drugs.

(01:21:04):
And then they go through a bunch of expense sheets pretty boring for a while.
And the jury sees an actual video of sex for the first time they show a bunch of clips from
2012 to 2014.
The article says most jurors remain stone faced while the explicit videos played one female
juror put her hand over her eye as she had done before while another appeared to win.

(01:21:25):
Thank God.
Why we don't know.
Then some information leaked from the courtroom.
The judge thinks someone is leaking information.
There's threatening everyone.
Don't know what that information was.
You know who I hate the most.
Pearl clutches.
Yeah.

(01:21:46):
Performative clutching of the pearls.
Yeah, it's like grow up.
Just watch the video.
There's a video you're in there for a reason.
If someone gets like executed.
Do you imagine me sitting there and your life is my life is in your fucking hands and you
cover your eyes at the video.
Mother fucker.

(01:22:06):
Why you're influencing everyone else with your purple.
Yeah, it's exactly knock it off.
Well, you never had seen sex before.
They're seen a grown man who loves a woman.
So he has another grown man named the Punisher.
To rape this poor girl for three days.
So, I mean, they didn't sit there and watch a three day video.

(01:22:29):
You know, I mean like, I mean, I still think you can still be grossed out by it.
Like do your job.
Watch it.
You're in the jury.
Yes.
I would be called.
I'd be like, honor.
Toss this one too.
Yeah.
We're talking about some adult shit here.
This one wants to go to Disneyland.

(01:22:49):
Get her out of here.
Then they talk about I just can't stand adults that can't handle adult life.
Bugs me.
Like listen, it's fucking hard out here.
Quit being a baby.
Get it together.
God, we have to talk about hard fucking things and really dive into it.
Imagine if you grew up 200 years ago.

(01:23:10):
Saying that's saying to me.
Yes.
Good God.
They show a bunch of texts, a bunch of receipts.
You know, they're trying to like lay out the purchasing of things for the crimes, I guess.
More sex videos.
More abuse stuff.
A jerk gets a vertigo.

(01:23:31):
They pause the trial.
Oh, I've had vertigo.
Herendus.
Yeah.
I was like a whole day.
Yeah.
Fuck it.
Fuck you up.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Then more evidence is submitted.
They had hundreds of bottles of loob and baby oil.
They put them in humidity controlled cases.

(01:23:52):
What?
That's it.
He's missing a real opportunity.
He could really be selling baby oil, humidity controlled cases.
Who did?
I'm in humidity control.
Did he?
I guess he was really into this.
Did you know there's even a thing?
Like a cigar, like a humidor for baby oil?
For your baby oil?
I guess.

(01:24:13):
Why?
Who knows?
Okay.
Then prosecution put-
I didn't say if I was going to do a baby oil thing, I'd have to have like nicer oil.
There's lots of beautiful oil out there.
Why are you using the cheap shit?
Anyways.
Well, if you buy 16 boxes of it.
Well, we're going to go-
We're going to talk about this about the conspiracy that Ditty isn't actually rich.

(01:24:38):
Oh, okay.
We're going to talk about that.
We're almost there.
Go.
We're almost done with the court.
Prosecution puts a bunch of evidence claiming that Jane was being coached to protect Ditty.
The defense motions for an acquittal says that the prosecution hasn't proved shit.

(01:24:59):
Their whole thing was they were like, we don't even need to put out a case at all.
Let's just wrap this up.
You guys didn't do shit.
Which is crazy because everyone talks about the New York Southern District being this sort
of like 99.9%.
Like, this is good as done.
Yeah.
And the defense is so common.
They're like, we're-
They're what you're saying.
I'm cool.
Yeah.
Are you trying to prove I'm cool?

(01:25:20):
Yeah.
I'm a good time.
Yes.
Yeah, I'm sure that was part of their- their argument was-
Look, you're on a sex drugs and rock and roll.
Every rock star on the planet lives this lifestyle.
Should he go to prison and rest of his life for it?
You know, I'm sure that's part of their argument.
And you know how we are where a bunch of star fuckers, societies, the jurors are probably-

(01:25:41):
Well, kind of.
You know?
horrendous.
So the-
So June 26th, the prosecutor delivers closing arguments saying how Ditty uses fear and
power to control victims.
And Emily, this Emily knows everything on Instagram.
She had a video about this because she's there at the court.

(01:26:03):
She said that I guess they're claiming Ditty kidnapped women to three different times
as some of the charges.
Like the time when he beat up Cassie, the one on the video.
Yes.
And he put her into a hotel and told her she couldn't leave until she looked okay.
Then again, Capricorn Clark.

(01:26:24):
She was another one of his victims.
He kidnapped her to force her to take these lie detector tests.
Remember when we talked about this about he threatened to throw her in the river.
Yeah.
Then he hung that chick over the-
Yeah, I think that was Capricorn Clark, but that wasn't the kidnapping instance they brought
up.

(01:26:45):
Then when Ditty tried to kill Kid Cudi, he made Capricorn Clark go along because he had
the gun on him and they were like, that was kidnapping as well.
And they put together the whole case pointing out how all these events were crimes and this
is part of Rico, which means there's a group of people working together to carry out these
crimes.
Okay, but that's true.
That's true.
That's how they break up every monster on the planet.

(01:27:08):
So why did you think-
That's why they go after tax evasion.
Yep.
He's going to go to jail.
It's just not going to be for the-
Yeah.
It's going to be tax evasion.
Well, and they kept- another instance is- he kept changing his staff up, like different personal
assistants.
So who is this core group?

(01:27:28):
Because he's going to be the only one going to prison.
When they did it with the mob, they took everybody down in the whole group.
With Ditty, it's like it's just him.
What about KK?
Why isn't she going to prison?
She was the chief of staff for years with him.
I don't understand the law and I don't understand why if this guy is such a monster, which I

(01:27:49):
agree is, why don't we pull all this other shit together?
You know, we're all these other assholes.
Why don't they come to court?
Did you see the documentary about the Playboy Mansion and what a piece of shit that place
was?
You talking about the multi-part series we tried watching?
Yeah.
Yeah, we watched it with me.

(01:28:10):
We tapped out after so many episodes though.
Yeah, but they were doing crimes.
There was rape happening there.
Totally.
I just don't, I don't, yeah.
The defense, they, I still agree, I still think though, just because everybody doesn't,
doesn't make it legal.

(01:28:30):
Yeah.
We have to start peeling the onion.
The defense presents their closing arguments.
They're showing the jurors longer clips of the sex tapes because they're arguing, well,
I think I assume they're arguing that the clips they saw before was out of context.
The defense is showing them longer clips.

(01:28:51):
Uh-huh.
Okay.
What it is, I don't know, because they decided not to make this court public.
Interesting.
Which is an interesting thing.
And they present all these arguments saying, look, all this stuff was consensual and these
are swinger lifestyles and that when he was beaten Casio, it's because he took bad drugs.

(01:29:19):
And there's no evidence that Diddy blew up Kid Cuddy's car.
In fact, the DNA on the Molotov cocktail was from a female.
That could be the Rico thing.
I guess.
And then on Yahoo News, it says moments after conceding his client was guilty of assaulting

(01:29:40):
Cassie Ventura, combs his lawyer, Mark Agnif, Agnifolo called Ventura a gangster for using
a burner phone to contact Kid Cuddy while she was seeing both men.
He said, Cassie's keeping it gangster.
She played them both.
And her relationship with Kid Cuddy Ventura repeatedly lied to combs arguing that it showed

(01:30:03):
she was actually not afraid of him.
So now the jury's deliberating.
Yeah, but again, what's his charges?
It's oh, let's, I got a couple of conspiracies and then we got rid of some of his charges.

(01:30:23):
What are they trying to charge him with?
Trafficking, racketeering, kidnapping, interstate prostitution across state lines.
He did all of that though.
They're not charging him for having sex parties.
Right.
I said, I don't understand.

(01:30:46):
So then maybe he's going to prison then.
He did all of those things.
Yeah.
All right.
So there's a couple of conspiracies we can talk and then we'll talk about the verdict and
see what we think is going to happen.
Lou Taylor, do you know who that is?
I recognize is he a singer?

(01:31:06):
It's a female and she is a talent manager at TriStar Sports Entertainment.
And her business partner is a woman named Robin Greenhill.
Okay.
Now Robin Greenhill, this is from Emily's sub stack.
Is there an artist like a music artist called Lou Taylor or like a...

(01:31:28):
No, but her name has been...
You've heard it before.
I have.
I'll tell you why.
Okay.
So the reason we're talking about Lou Taylor is because Robin Greenhill was Diddy's financial
manager, which again, back to my same argument.
Does she know where this money's going?
Should she go to prison?
I think so.

(01:31:48):
I guess.
Right?
Okay.
So Lou Taylor was part of the free Britney or deal because she was Britney's business manager
and people think she's the reason that she's Britney had a conservatorship.
Oh.
Yeah.
And she also allegedly tried to take Courtney Love's estate under a conservatorship and take

(01:32:11):
control of Kurt Cobain's assets.
Interesting.
And she's also Travis Scott's current business manager and she is the manager for JLo and
the Kardashians, right?
The top of the fucking mountain here.
Okay.
And if you recall, Britney Spears had put some Instagram captions saying that Lou Taylor

(01:32:32):
and Robin Greenhill were trying to kill her and she was going to sue TriStar and Robin
Greenhill, who did his finance manager, was named in the Rodney Jones, the low-rod lawsuit.
And supposedly she was, I don't know what that lawsuit is about.

(01:32:52):
It was kind of the big one where he laid out, I did it on my podcast.
He laid out, is he a rapper?
He's a producer.
Okay.
And he worked with Diddy on a recent album.
Okay.
And he said that he saw Diddy Paying Off Cops for a guy who got shot at the Diddy place.

(01:33:13):
He said he saw, he compared Diddy to Epstein.
He's like, dude, this guy's doing blackmail operations with sex tapes.
He basically arranged it for him to get sexually assaulted.
He made the guy.
Yeah, low-rod.
Diddy arranged to have Little Rod assaulted?
Yeah.
Like, Little Rod was taking a piss.
Like, beat up or like sexually.

(01:33:33):
No, sexually.
Oh, by a woman though.
And a man, Cuba Gooding Jr.
What?
Yes.
All of this is in the low-rod lawsuit.
And he straight up says this is an Epstein operation.
He's gathering intel and using blackmail on different people.
Interesting.
Yeah.
It's pretty crazy.

(01:33:53):
But her, but Robin Greenwell is in this, in this low-rod lawsuit.
Okay.
Because supposedly she was getting money over to the sex workers.
And she was alleged to have been putting surveillance equipment on Britney Spears' phones
and getting Britney put on medications, which ties us into the whole Kanye West, Jamie Foxx

(01:34:18):
thing.
Remember all this?
Yes.
Because Jamie Foxx was saying that, remember, Jamie Foxx was filming the Diddy sex, the Diddy
parties in the 90s.
Yeah.
Jamie Foxx was.
Yeah.
What about, what ever happened to Kevin Hart?
He used to hang out with Diddy all the time.
Yeah.
And they were filming and he was filming stuff.
No one's talking about this shit no more.

(01:34:41):
It's very strange.
Interesting.
But, uh, anyway, but Emily's sub stack goes further.
I put a link to Emily's sub stack in the show notes.
She actually goes further.
She has a whole article about the Lou Taylor conspiracy.
She said, after Diddy's arrest, rumors were circulating online, accusing him of playing

(01:35:02):
a role in Britney's 2007 downfall.
And then, the sloth started wondering if Diddy was hired to drug Britney the night before
her VMA performance.
Oh, I remember that.
Yes.
I saw this.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Because you remember when they were like, like, she did awful at the VMAs.
She had an awful performance.
Yeah.

(01:35:23):
It went off crying and it was like after the Justin Timberlake thing and I don't remember
the performance.
Oh, yeah.
Anyways.
Yeah.
And the theory is that Diddy drug Britney, so she would appear psychologically unwell
on national television so that when Britney got put under a conservatorship by Lou Taylor,

(01:35:44):
people would be like, oh, that makes sense.
She's kind of crazy.
Yeah.
And some even claim that this was a humiliation ritual.
And the media had hyped up Britney's performance for months, calling it Britney's big
comeback just for her to stumble.
It was just a slap on the stage and bomb the entire world was watching.
A cameraman cut the celebrity reactions in the crowd, most of whom appeared confused watching

(01:36:07):
the prop pop princess stumble.
But when the cameras zoomed in on Diddy, he looked unfazed, leaving many wondering Diddy
knows something we didn't know.
The night before the infamous VMA performance, Britney was spotted partying in Vegas with Diddy
Parasel and in 50 cent, dancing barefoot on a couch at Pure Night Club in a plaid gray
fedora.

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Diddy gave Britney a shout out when she entered the club.
Coincidentally, this was the same night as Cassie's 21st birthday.
In Cassie's lawsuit, she alleged that Diddy invited himself to her birthday party and made
moves on her even though he was dating Kim Porter at the time.
Running out of ice water.

(01:36:50):
So the Lou Taylor thing to go deeper into that, this ties into the billionaire thing.
Because there was a big stink when Kylie Jenner was named by Forbes as a self-made billionaire.
Do you remember this a few years ago?
She was managed or is managed by Lou Taylor.
Okay.

(01:37:10):
And I remember people were digging into this thing like, no, she's not a billionaire and I looked
it up.
The Google AI God said Kylie Jenner was previously labeled a billionaire by Forbes, but this
claim was later refuted by the same magazine.
This reversal came after Forbes reviewed financial data from Cody Inc, which purchased a majority

(01:37:30):
stake in Kylie cosmetics.
Indicating the business was significantly smaller and less profitable than the family
had led Forbes to believe.
Forbes alleged the Jenner had inflated the value of the company and may have provided false
information, including potentially falsified tax returns.
Hmm.
I think the same thing with Elon.

(01:37:53):
I don't think Elon has the amount of money that he says he has.
Everything's smoke and mirrors.
I think it's all bullshit.
I don't believe numbers anymore.
I'm like, they're just lying.
They're falsifying numbers.
And they hide behind, well, that's what the business is worth.
Yeah.
And that's such a convoluted way of tracking, like money.

(01:38:18):
Yeah.
Well, then on media takeout actually read this media take out and I had this in my notes
to talk about.
And then I saw the thing about Lou Taylor, I was like, Oh snap.
Media takeout says, did he build his reputation not just as a rapper and producer, but as one

(01:38:38):
of hip-hop's most successful moguls media takeout did a full on investigation into his finances
and we were surprised at what we found with bad boy records, Sean John clothing and a
splashy lifestyle that included white parties and the Hamptons.
Did he appear to be on the same level as business titans like Jay-Z and Dr. Dre?
But recent legal troubles and a deeper look at his business dealings, especially with

(01:38:59):
liquor liquor giant D Diego, wait, DIA, GEO, Diego, suggests that the billionaire.
Did he part of like that vodka, the, sure, yeah, sure.
He suggests that the billionaire image he cultivated was more smoke than substance.

(01:39:20):
At the center of Diddy's financial myth was Sirac, the vodka brand he helped turn into
a cultural staple.
In 2007, DIA, GEO struck an unusual deal with combs.
Rather than paying him a flat endorsement fee, they offered him a share of the profits
and control over marketing.
Under Diddy's influence, Sirac grew from a niche product to selling over 2 million cases

(01:39:41):
annually by 2014.
According to reports, combs earned close to $1 billion over time from that partnership,
but crucially he never owned the brand.
And that's where the illusion of ownership and billionaire status started to unravel.
But then so did he get that money?
Did he have that amount of money or was it given to him in like stock?

(01:40:01):
It explains it more.
I'll keep reading.
I got more.
In 2013, trying to duplicate Sirac's success, combs and DIA, GEO partnered again to buy
De Leon, a luxury tequila brand.
This time, Diddy was supposed to be a 50/50 partner, but according to DIA, GEO, he only
put in $1,000 of capital while the company footed the rest and claims he still owes them

(01:40:25):
millions.
Though combs promoted the tequila with his trademark charisma, De Leon never took off
commercially.
It sells, never broke 100,000 cases annually, a fraction of what Sirac achieved.
By 2023, the relationship soured completely.
Some sued DIA, accusing the company of racial bias and underfunding De Leon while aggressively
backing George Clooney's Casamegos, which DIA, GEO acquired for up to $1 billion.

(01:40:52):
Diddy argued that the race was the reason Clooney's brand succeeded while his floundered.
Saying DIA, GEO kept him in the colored section.
But while combs framed it as civil rights crusade, he also demanded billions in damages.
Behind the scenes, his business empire was already starting to crumble.
His ambitious deal to form the largest black owned cannabis company fell through.

(01:41:15):
His attempt to buy BET failed.
His long-hiped album, The Love Album flopped and his fashion brand, Saun John, faded into
retail obscurity.
Then came the avalanche of sexual assaults, lawsuits, so on.
Yada, yada, yada.
DIA, GEO, moved to terminate their business relationship, arguing that Diddy's involvement
now posed devastating and permanent damage to the brand.

(01:41:38):
In January 24, combs would quietly withdrew his lawsuit against DIA, ending his partnership
with Srirok and Daily Own.
Whatever money he received in the settlement is likely being funneled into legal defense
as several other women have come forward with allegations.
So where does that leave Diddy?
Without Srirok his biggest cash cow and with a revolt TV struggling, Saun John effectively

(01:42:03):
defuncted brand partnerships bailing his empire appears to be collapsing.
His estimated billionaire status was always based on projected brand valuations and partnerships,
not liquid assets or outright ownership.
Unlike Jay-Z, who owns pieces of his streaming service in Champagne label, Diddy never held
the same equity stakes.

(01:42:24):
In the end, the myth of Diddy as hip-ops ultimate mogul is given way to a much grimmer reality.
The once charismatic marketer fighting for reputation, revelance and freedom without the business
infrastructure to support the image he spent decades building.
So he doesn't?
Apparently not.
And if he did, it's all evaporating.

(01:42:46):
And remember, he kept paying, he kept underpaying the assistance and he kept underpaying
the sex workers.
Like sometimes he would stiff him on payments.
Yeah.
No pun intended.
Um, the one we watched that documentary on the jiggleos and what was his name, brace.

(01:43:07):
Brace was like, everybody's full of shit.
Nobody has any money.
I believe brace.
I believe brace too.
Yeah, because that's why homeboy that got arrested for murder.
He was trying to make money.
Yeah.
Like desperate for money.
Interesting.
No one I don't understand is how them guys are just invest.

(01:43:30):
I think they're trying to keep it with the lifestyle.
It's like the real housewives.
They rent these big houses and they're renting cars to make it look like they're rich.
Humans are bizarre.
Part of the facade.
So let's talk verdict.
There's four options presented here from shit.

(01:43:54):
I didn't put the link somewhere somewhere on the internet.
One option one.
Did he's acquitted?
He walks.
Boom.
Innocent.
First day out.
Wrap drop and soon.
Probably with Kanye West.
Maybe what Kanye West was doing in there is like, hey, he walks.

(01:44:15):
Let's get him in the studio.
First day out.
I'm embarrassing.
Yeah.
Option two.
He could get 15 to life if he gets found guilty for sex trafficking.
And it said, because I copied and pasted from the website, to find com's guilty of sex
trafficking, the jury would need to determine beyond a reasonable doubt that the rapper used

(01:44:36):
violence, money, and blackmail to course singer Cassie Ventura and an anonymous woman known
as Jane to have sex with escorts during days long hotel parties called freecofs.
And that's why the defense kept putting these texts.
I think they're trying to put the reasonable doubt of like, yeah, but maybe she was in love.
Maybe, you know, that's that's the argument there.

(01:44:59):
Understand.
And the defense is saying like, look, these were freaky swingers.
This is the lifestyle.
So like just because you think this is weird that he's having other dudes come bang his
chick, like, this is how people are.
Even with domestic violence, like, like regrettably there was some domestic violence.

(01:45:21):
Sure.
But he's not on trail for the domestic violence.
No.
He's on trial for sex trafficking is one of the charges.
Then there's racketeering and so on.
Because there's different scenarios of what they can find them guilty on certain charges
and innocent on others.
Yeah.
So if they find them guilty on just sex trafficking, that's 15 to life.

(01:45:43):
Oh, I feel like the sex traffic.
I mean, he did that, right?
Like he hired somebody.
Violence, money and blackmail just to be in can all of it together.
It has to be violence.
No, thanks.
Oh, like just to pay somebody to come and fuck you or fuck your girl.

(01:46:04):
I think it's that trafficking.
Just be one of them, right?
Is that traffic?
I'm trafficking just, I'm paying you to come over here to have sex with my wife or girlfriend.
I mean, I guess.
Oh, my God.
Don't you dumb.
Isn't that called solicitation, though?
I don't know.
Anyway, then there's option three, zero years to 20 years if he's acquitted of sex trafficking

(01:46:31):
charges, but then convicted of racketeering charges, which is a syndicate or group of people
orchestrating criminal activity.
This is like the mob, how they took the mob down, you know, cartels, bribery, drug dealing,
arson are the ones they're trying to get them on.
So yes, he's going to get that thing.

(01:46:51):
He's going to get that, which is zero to 20 years.
Then option four is zero to 40 years if he's acquitted of the sex trafficking, but convicted
on both the rico charges that I just talked about and interstate prostitution across
state lines, which I, okay.
So maybe that's more what he did and not the sex trafficking.

(01:47:13):
If that's what the jury finds.
No fucking.
So he could get zero to life.
He ain't getting a life.
I think he's going to get one of those last two options and get a slap on the wrist of
like a couple of years or time served or something.
He ain't getting time served.
He's going to be in jail for something.

(01:47:35):
But I bet you it'll be like six years, six to 10.
It'll be a 10 year sentence.
He'll be out five.
Yeah.
That's what I think because they got a, but what if he's a fed, you know, like do you think
if he's a fed like Kanye West said, maybe this is all our, I wonder if they all are.

(01:47:55):
Did you see that ring on Jay-Z?
And they're all saying that's a, it was a camera.
He's too chummy with Diddy and same with Kanye West like they're all just like getting dirt
on everybody.
Yeah.
Some real great game with their own shit or like they said, he's the Epstein.

(01:48:17):
He's just.
Yeah, like he supplies Intel for the feds.
And then he was doing all this extra shit and they were like, bro, we can't protect you
from everything.
Yeah.
And now he's in looking at, he screwed up or something, right?
Let's see here.
So that takes us to today June 30th and the jury is deliberating.

(01:48:41):
I'm going to break, breaking news folks coming across my desk.
New York Post deliberations and Diddy trial hits snag is one juror apparently can't follow
judges instructions.
I like the shame.
God.
Diddy bombshell sex trafficking trial hit a snag Monday after just an hour after jury

(01:49:02):
deliberation started because one juror apparently couldn't follow the judge's instructions.
The panelists, eight men and four women sent a note to Manhattan federal court judge around
1240 expressing concerns about one of their own said, we have a juror, juror 25 who we believe
can't follow your instructions.
The juror in question is a 51 year old man with a thick European accent.

(01:49:23):
Oh, he's agree.
100% he ain't listening to shit.
He's got to go during jury selection.
He revealed he lives in Manhattan with his partner and as a scientist here in the PhD in molecular
biology and neuroscience.
Wasn't immediate clear immediately clear exactly what the judges, the jury's note met and
the judge told the pound to keep deliberating.

(01:49:45):
Okay.
Comes who had been held at Brooklyn lockup since September 20, 24 has seen smiling and
chatting with attorneys shortly before the note was read a copy of the self held book,
the power of positive thinking sitting on the defense table in front of them.
Oh, so there you go.
That's a last word we're at.

(01:50:08):
All right.
Fascinating stuff.
He's going to be guilty of some of that shit.
We should make a bet.
Well, I don't know if I fucking my mouse pointer went.
Yeah, that's all I got.
Now you're updated.
We're up to the deliberation.
All right.

(01:50:28):
Let's find out.
Let's see.
When how long do they have they can do it take as long as they want, right?
Yeah.
They said they think it's going to take days.
But you never know.
Well, this fucking European guy can't get his shit together.
The Greek guy probably being combative.
You can't tell us shit.
You ain't telling us nothing.

(01:50:50):
So you think he's going to tell my mother to do something follow a direction.
She ain't doing it.
You think he's going to be convicted though?
Predictions.
What's happening over there?
I need a drink.
My throat's after the a here.
Have some of my warm water.
You get a giant thing of water over here.
Well, drink it.

(01:51:11):
It's how much quieter that is.
That's sloshing it.
You can drink out of a straw.
Room temperature though.
Yeah.
Ice is for pussies.
So.
What what's the question?
What do you think he's going to get a 10 year sentence?
Yeah, he'll get 10.
Some kind of mix.
My my my professional opinion is he'll get 10 or less.

(01:51:38):
Serve half of it.
He ain't.
It's nothing.
This is going to be some Gen Choshit.
I think that's a fair take.
Yeah, I think he's going to get something.
I don't think he's getting life.
He ain't getting that.
No.
I think that's what they're I mean, he could, right?
But I think that's just stuff for the headlines to.

(01:51:59):
I think worst case scenario.
That's what they're just saying.
But he's not that's what I happen in.
10 years out and five.
I think they're not even trying him for the worst she did.
Yeah, I think I think this is a way of them placating the public and to be like, well,
he got to be doing his time.
Yeah, exactly when really this thing goes much deeper and they're going to let him out

(01:52:20):
like they did a bill cause B and like they did Harvey Weinstein.
Mm hmm.
It's a way of appeasing the public and people and people lose track.
Like, yeah, Bill Cosby.
He's in prison still, right?
Yeah.
Because it was some quiet little thing.
How does he get out?
They use some weird.

(01:52:42):
How did he get out of jail?
He released from prison after the PA Supreme Court overturned his sexual assault conviction.
They ruled his due process rights have been violated when he was charged in 2015 for a
2004 assault.
He was assaulting in 2004.

(01:53:03):
Yeah, he was old.
Yeah.
Um, geez.
I eat out to talk legal ease.
I don't know.
I don't know.
All right.
It seems like some bulls.
How do they get Harvey Weinstein out?
I kind of think he got, um, I think he got overturned but then he went back in or so is he

(01:53:24):
back in now?
See, let's see.
Did Harvey Weinstein get out of jail?
Google no, Harvey Weinstein has not been released from jail.
His 2020 conviction was overturned.
He is still serving a 16 year sentence related to a 2022 conviction in LA currently awaiting
a retrial in New York, but remains incarcerated due to the California conviction.

(01:53:47):
Okay.
Well, good.
Thank God.
I know how these rich dudes just slime their way out of stuff, you know.
But he's still in jail.
Yeah, but they're, you know, they're probably going to, okay, let's get that one overturned
and we're going to work on this other one.
Oh, yeah.
This is bullshit.
Anyway.

(01:54:08):
Okay.
It's all I got.
Good.
Okay.
Um, if you want to catch up on the rest of the trial because we talked about a lot of salacious
things over these four episodes.
I put the links in the show notes.
The thing about, if you haven't listened any of them, trial week two was good.
We talked about Jonathan Addy when he was talking about all this Trump conspiracy stuff.

(01:54:29):
It was pretty crazy.
Then in, um, the week three, we talked about having a young boy and then week four, we talked
about Ray J. Shugna, when he used to.
So if any of those interests do, check them out.
And if you like this show and you hate to pesky ads and you want to support your favorite
show, go to patreon.com/breakingsocialarms.
Boom.
Okay.

(01:54:50):
All right.
Anything else?
Nope.
Okay, everybody.
Thanks for listening.
Till next time.
Until next time, we love you.
We love you.
Bye.
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