Dying for Sex, Chinese TikTok Propaganda & X-Rated Questions!

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Today I'm breaking social norms. We're hitting a variety of topics. We're gonna talk about this Hulu show called dying for sex

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Then we're gonna talk about the Chinese TikTok shots fired at America and
Josie's got a mystery question for me
Find out what it's all about today here. I'm bringing social norms
All right, Josie where you want to start with the show on Hulu? Yeah

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It's called dying for sex and we just finished it last night. I wish I would have taken notes
but I
Didn't I feel like I start every show just to enjoy the show yeah
And I don't take notes on anything

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Because I'm just there just to enjoy life as it comes but now I would the the way that that the show was I wish that I
Took notes because I will never watch that show again. Oh
So I I loved it so much
It was it was a piece of art. I felt like that was probably one of the most

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Beautiful stories I have ever watched in hilarious
But it was
Got wrenching well, let me let me
So I don't have any notes so we're just gonna go off of
Really let me give you the IMDB
Break down for the people that are curious what it's about okay, we're gonna plot spoil

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I know is there a plot spoiler here. It's kind of in the plot the
Says it's a story of a woman diagnosed with the
Boy, I'm gonna
Metat-metastic. Am I saying that right metatastic?
metastasized metastasized metastasized breast cancer who

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Abandons her husband of 15 years and begins to fully explore her sexuality and
When we watched it it's the first episode there's like eight episodes and
the first episode started out
Kind of as the plot implies and

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First two episodes kind of and at some point it takes a little bit of a turn and
It gets a little more serious as it goes
Do you think that it held up do you think it carried the inertia of that because the what I thought we were getting in for into was a show that was a

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comedy
about
This woman trying to find her sexuality in
You know mid late life, I guess whatever that is
Midlife and that was kind of what it was but
It's hard to define I

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Thought it was a comedy like I felt like it was so funny, but every episode would have me
kind of tear up a little bit and
Then it just as it went
I would be full blown
like
You know like when you cry makes you want to cry like thinking of it like oh

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You know like when you get that pain in your that like not in your throat and
That like pain in your chest like where you're like trying to hold it together
Yeah, dude that that show was a perfect example. I don't know
What do we do we spot plot spoil? I mean maybe a little what's not go crazy, but

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I mean, I guess I guess you kind of know from the plot that it's a woman who's dying from cancer and she leaves her husband to go
Find herself sexually. Yeah, so I mean you kind of know how it ends right right so without giving away any sort of
But you're I just is like
It makes you

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Question life who where you are it just is like it was the most relatable and
Wild like what would you do if you had that kind of news like you've got not very long to go

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You know, yeah, I don't even know I bet I don't know the way even at the beginning when okay
So there's a there's a scene where at the beginning of it. They're in therapy because
This is like the relatable part of it. It's she had just gone through breast cancer and
They're going through therapy because her husband who's just loving

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caregiver
Can't touch her body has completely lost
This ability to find her as a sexual being because he is cared for her so much and
You can tell that they love each other deeply
but they can't get past this thing and

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partially her sexuality gets hyping
heightened because
Of a medication she's on
So she's on this medication
for her cancer that is making her
horny and

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Her husband is struggling
Because he has been in the care giving role for so long that he no longer can be that thing for her and so now their marriage is at this
It's just at a next step of like trying to navigate how hard life can be and how you get these

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These curve balls that you don't know how to navigate and there's no fucking playbooks for any of this shit and
They're just trying to figure it out
Yeah, there's a scene where they're doing sexual stuff and he
I think he starts crying because he's like upset. He's gonna lose her like she's gonna die and

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It's like frustrating to her because she just doesn't she doesn't she won't I think she wants to
You know not that not think about this 24/7. I'm sure and
get it and
Try to have some sexuality. Well, I felt like at that point she hadn't gotten the
she hadn't gotten the

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The phone call to say that it had metasicized and turned into because she had beaten the cancer was in remission and
That's where they were yeah
her cancer had
returned and returned in with avenge and
That's where it's that's where the show begins

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Do you know I think you told me this but for the audience maybe this is actually based on a true story
I saw that in the
Thing where I thought it was a podcast it well
I'm reading about on Wikipedia it says that it was loosely based on the real life experiences of

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Molly cockin of
Los Angeles she was diagnosed with breast cancer went to chemo a bilateral mastectomy radiation therapy and breast reconstructive
Treatment reconstruction treatment
She also started a hormone therapy that increased her libido then in 2015 she was re diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer

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Which meant her illness was terminal
She would then go on to co-create
This story with her real-life friend Nikki Boyer on a podcast on Wandery called dying for sex in which cockin
I don't know what I'm saying her name right cockin cockin
Related how after the diagnosis she left her marriage and began a journey of sexual exploration

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She also started an Instagram account dying for sex and then she died on March 8th 2019 at the age of 45
Haven't been cared for by Nikki Boyer until the end
and
That so that Nikki Boyer
I don't I don't know her history. I've heard her name. She's a big podcast right think I don't know

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She has a podcast of this podcast. Yeah, the dying for sex podcast
So they must have done the podcast series and then wrote this story and then
Nikki Boyer also I
Think produced this show as well if I'm not mistaken
I don't know how important that is but either way that's what that Jenny Slate

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Character her name is Nikki on the show I think isn't it?
I can't remember Nikki Boyer, yeah
horrendous number one
If that I cast any kind of true to life
Yeah, for sure, but you can feel the estrogen in this show like it it you can tell it is women that did this this is like

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Do you think it felt very yeah, I didn't have it didn't have I
thought because the
the death
Of the main character
It took a few episodes and I feel like

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Sort of normal quote-unquote television. It would have been a much shorter blip. I
Know it's on TV shows and movies they when they showed death. It's never an accurate depiction. Yeah, it's always this like
Holly would you know how you know what I mean like when you see someone like like they're dying on the battlefield or whatever

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Pretty yeah, pretty way of dying and it's nothing like that and they show her in hospice and they talk about the process and it's like
shit
It's like the show starts off and at first you like you're it's hilarious
It's funny. Oh, it's kind of horny. This is kind of hot a little bit and then like it starts to morph into this thing

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Where you care about the characters and then by the end you're a fucking mask. She's like holy shit
You cried after the show for like I mean, I don't think I got it together. I gave myself a fucking headache
I had a headache and until I went to bed. I was like I just got to bed like it was
I don't know I don't want to give too much. It's hard to talk about stuff and then not talk about it

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You know like right now like where you're like do you spot spoil or whatever like it's hard to talk about it. Yeah
We're just gonna do it. I don't think it's I mean, I think it's right the plot. So that's fine
Yeah
But I felt like even with her like where she was sitting there and they were her and her ex husband or her they weren't even exes the her and her husband

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Like his inability to see her as a sexual person anymore besides this thing that he wanted to care for
I felt like was just
Because me and you like struggled with that after when we got first married where you had this like um
Madonna horror complex with me. Yeah, it definitely happens, right?

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Where the it's like when we're dating everything's fine and fun and then when we get married all of a sudden
I'm like your wife. Yeah
Yeah, you kind of get too serious a little bit. Yeah, you got really yeah
I think between like working full-time and going to school full-time
It felt like you got really serious. Yeah, you forget to have fun and uh

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I mean life that's my continual sort of struggle in life is
Like exhaling and trying to have fun and relax because I'm so fucking wound up all the time like I'm just wound tight, you know, uh
Yeah, I mean I think that was a genuine sort of struggle they had on the show. I think a lot of people have that

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Man think people get into their roles of like caretaker mother father. Yeah, and it's still payer
You know, we're just trying to keep the ship right
And you forget that like oh my god
We're supposed to enjoy this like it's yeah time is fleeting
Yeah, you lose sight of all that and then that's what was so great about this show was it was like oh my you have to slow down

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It smell the fucking roses and not get because it kind of remind me of click. Did you ever watch it? Oh, yes
It was click this was click this is click for sure
where it's like um
This idea that you get so wrapped around the axles of like the shit that you have to fucking do and it becomes
You want to numb out

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You want to just get through the fucking day or get through the fucking week or get through the fucking problem and then get to the next and then then here comes the next thing that comes down the pike and
you're
Just in between these waves of
calm and hecticness and you forget that that is what life is and you're so busy either anticipating the next wave

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Or being in the fucking wave that you forget that like this is the part that you're supposed to enjoy
and um
I don't know I guess I think about death a lot. Yeah, you
I try not to and then it when it fucking hits me it tears me down to the core and I'm like oh no
And then the next day I wake up like okay back to ignoring that

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Let's just go. Yeah, I'm like I think about it all of the time. I don't know
I just feel like we're just here for such a short amount of time and I want to fill all of the things and I want to connect with the most people and I want to
um
I want to like

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Do the love thing, you know what I mean like I want to really fill it and capture it and spread it
that
But I literally will give myself panic attacks at night thinking about like okay
I hope tomorrow
I think you you love hard do you feel hard, you know

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Like I just hope they're like
I'll lay in bed and I'll sit there and I'll think like oh my god
I hope tomorrow's not the day that my whole life fucking changes. Yeah
Yeah, it just changes like that. It's pretty crazy
And anybody that suffered a loss, you know, like I've lost my brother. You've lost your father. We've lost our nephew

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My fear is losing my mother. My fear is losing you
Yeah, I think you nailed it with it. This is this is basically click that movie click
which
That movie also snuck up on me

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I'm surprised I was back behind you. We were sitting up. We were sitting like um to bog and style on the fucking couch
We're like we're sitting there at like I'm sitting behind and I got all the pillows and then I stick pillows on my knees and
Isaac will lay against my legs and he rubbed my feet
And we're watching this movie and I'm behind just a fucking mess just bawling with like a knot in my throat

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and
I was like oh
This isn't Isaac's jam like I was sitting there. I was like oh that he doesn't love this
I could tell because you're like this fucking sad but like no inflection no change in your voice or anything like that and I'm like
Like fucking the bro closing
and um

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I was like oh he hates this show
Is it just because you like trying to push down all the way? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah pushing that
Towards the end when we were at the the middle of that or through that show
Um, I was like oh no, this is gonna bring up like dad stuff for you. Uh-huh
And it did it did yeah, yeah because they show her in the hospice and the

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this sort of death sequence is
What I
Witnessed yeah, which is like traumatic
You know
To watch like your father goes through that right hard
Yeah, young your young father right yeah, I mean how old was your dad when he passed away um

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56
Six I mean that's young yeah, yeah 56 he was 56. Yeah
Yeah, I thought he was older than that. No, it's young right that's really young
What year did your dad pass 2012 before the mine calendar ended

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No, it wasn't yeah for sure because remember I was I was in I had um started grad school at Penn State and
He died and I had to like email my professor and be like hey, I'm like running late here. What do you want me to do and
They let me sort of hand in my assignments late, but oh
My gosh, I didn't know it was that long ago. Yeah

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Yeah, it's like fucking weird. It's so weird
Yeah, cuz back then I was how it was I then I was 32 years old and
Something like that wait how old was I
20 plus 12 32 yeah 32 years old
And at the time of 32 and you're looking at your father's 56 and dying you're like well, that's young

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But that's I don't know like you don't have the perspective
It doesn't seem at the time. It seemed like that's kind of young, but not too young
But now that I'm 45 I look at it dude that was young that was really young that's way too young
So
That's wild
That is wild. I didn't I didn't even put it together

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You know what else the show did that was like not to change, but I'm just curious um the other thing that this show did that was so fucking great
was um
Show how women disassociate and and how they don't keep in their body
During sexual experiences

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Mm-hmm, and that's something like I super struggle with of like not starting to think of all of the things like whatever the thing is
What do you what do you ladies think of like things you want to get done or all of it? Oh, okay, right like shame
Shame always creeps in there um
Um

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That would fuck me up so hard if I had that those thoughts creeping in my head. It's not stop though for me
I don't know if this is for everybody, but I'll tell you what I think of like shame gets in there. I will have a don't a little bit of like
um
Connecting
Like pleasure feelings. Mm-hmm

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Connecting to them
Because I think I disassociate a little bit. Oh really? Like feelings of my in my body. You know how like you just have to like
Not okay think about crossfit and you have to not think about the pain and you have to keep going. Yes
I think sometimes that's what I do, but like opposite way. Oh, interesting um

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I think I do a lot of numbing in life and I don't realize I'm doing it. Oh wow, okay
And I think that that might be connected to like shame thoughts that get triggered for me. Yeah
And then um
I'll think about
How long is this taking how long do we have do what else do I got to do tonight?

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I'm telling you my brain goes in like um overdrive yeah
And I have to like okay take a breath it doesn't fucking matter. We have nowhere to be
Okay, yeah
But like if it I'm always thinking of
What time is it I'm on the other side. I lose track of time completely

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I think that that's why I look at the time so much because you completely lose track of time
And it'll be like and I'm not do I say this this is like
I'm not gonna say um we just it can be
You know a lot we can do things for a long time

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We
I feel like I'm being very vulnerable right now
but
Anyway, so
Because it can
Because we can we do things that I'm like we still haven't had dinner. We got to get the dog fed
We got to get you know what I mean

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So my brain goes into that a little bit for me. Yeah, that's interesting. Hmm
So like that shit the show is like it should it depicts her going through that too, right but yes
But hers is like a more glaring thing of like she's thinking about her treatments and
I guess right that's what I remember yeah and her um

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And other things that have been in her past I don't want to I don't want to give everything away
So other things that are going on in her past that she that keep creeping up
but like
Again, it's like shame right
Hers is shame mind was shame. Yeah, I don't know it was

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Absolutely one of the most stunning
the pictures of the human condition in such an acute
Situation mm-hmm
That there I don't think that there's a way that you could watch that show and not be completely um

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engulfed in it
It's uh, it's impactful for sure. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a makes good art
You know it's something you just keep thinking you think about later and that's the same with
To compare it to click that's how I felt about click I I didn't really want to watch click same as this show
Like this is more of like yeah, this you know you we try to lean into what each other is more interested in you know

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and
So it wasn't like a hard pass for me. I was watching whatever and
I had a lot of really funny moments that's that I was like okay, this is pretty funny
And by the time it's over it's the same with click because I don't want to watch click when I watch these are because I think I don't say I'm stupid
I just like when I was 15 uh, but I was also 15 so I don't know

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I feel like his later movies have been so like I love spanglish
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, his serious movies are really good. Oh my god. They really are
But the fun like when he's trying to be funny like anyway
Um, and I love 51 states. Yeah, that was a great movie too. I love that. Yeah, so maybe maybe I shouldn't say what I'm saying there

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But I just think that um, you know, because I loved happy Gilmore and Billy Madison when they came out when I was young
Yeah, but if I watch them today, I'm like those are just silly like they're not that funny to me anymore
but
With click it was the same thing it snuck up on me and by the end I was like that was a like a very powerful
movie yeah, like the message was loud and clear by the end of it same with this show

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Yes, and and just like click. I'm never watching dying for sex either again
Yeah, it's a one-time deal
Could you imagine though like this is something that a lot of women go through where they
Not necessarily because of their partner
Because I don't think she was saying this was her partners fault. I didn't get that out of the show at all

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but she said um
She didn't want to die because she without having an orgasm with another person
Yeah, and I think lots of women experience that in their own marriages
As that what do you think of what does that make you feel like when you're like of the opposite sex in here that lots of women are not having orgasms with their partners

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How does that make me feel yeah
Hmm
Like as a man you'd have to be the man's perspective here because I don't know how it's
It makes me uneasy. Yeah, it makes me
I get so conscious

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Do I feel bad for men? No, I feel bad for women for not being able to have an orgasm. Okay, sex. I mean
That sucks, uh-huh
But then there's also like this
Self-conscious bar on my oh shit like that me
She faking it
You know, yeah, and
Yeah, there's a part of me wants to avoid it completely be like ah

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You know like I would never bring this up with my my fellows. Hey fellows. You think you're really uh, you know
Serving that pipe you want to know a dirty little secret. Huh
The wives are talking about it. Oh
We'll see you with men. This is these are all uncomfortable conversations
So bad news guys

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You guys might not be bringing it up together, but we are the women know who who's
Who's
The is that crazy?
Every woman
I don't think every woman, but I don't think every woman's like me and my friends
What's the percentages of women who don't

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Experience orgasm
Oh, I don't know. I wouldn't know what that is
Okay, I think it's high
I think it's high because I think I think a lot of men watch pornography
Thinking that that'll be a training tool
To teach them how to um have sex and

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It can be further from the tree. I love to watch porn. I have no problems watching porn
But it's I wouldn't want to be in a porn
I don't I don't watch those to I think what looks good
It you know like in my brain
Doesn't

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In my heart. I know that doesn't feel good
Okay, the results here chat gbt. What is it? I've been grooming my little chat gbt
It's gonna be a mini me someday here
It says that uh looks like a study from 2018
involving 1600 and 83 heterosexual newlywed couples

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newlywed couples found that while 87% of husbands reported consistently experiencing orgasm
Which that shocks me. What was it? 87% of husbands that number shocks me you think it would be higher
That's kind of wild. I mean that's like one out of 10 what they just they're like ask for what I'm done

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I wonder if they lose their or maybe maybe that's like a rectile dysfunction. Yeah, maybe they're losing or they have like medicine
That makes their weeners not get hard. Oh, maybe
Uh says
Or stay hard and it says 51% of wives do not consistently consistently reach orgasm during sexual and
Their husbands 51% half of us half think of all of our friends

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Well, that was to be fair. This says consistent consistently reach orgasm
Okay, I feel like that's I feel like you're right like women do have a
We do have a hard time. Yeah, you kind of mm-hmm. Yes, so that doesn't mean that they're never getting orgasm
I don't I think this is what men have to understand is like I don't think

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That
Somebody else's orgasm
Is it reflection a hundred percent of a partner? I agree
Like sometimes it's stress
Sometimes it's shame

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Sometimes it's but like you'll never know if you don't have the fucking conversation
You know sometimes she has a sensitive break sometimes she has a
Disassociation problem
Sometimes you don't even mean like there's all there's a bazillion reasons as to why this could happen. Yeah
And none of the

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No matter what it is you're never gonna know if you don't talk to your partner about it and it's so fucking embarrassing
Why is this so it's like the hardest conversations to have it's so hard and it's why I don't know why is that I don't know
So much shame around it, isn't there is there is this show. I don't know just to go back to the show you have

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I felt like I will never forget this show I it
Is one of those shows that confirm my own like bias of being like we are here for such a short amount of time
And I want to
Connect with the people that I love the most and I want them to know that I love them and I think of them

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and
And into the people that
Feel special to me
Like it makes me be like you're on the right it confirms to me. I'm on the right path of what I think is right
Like that's what I want on my death, but that's what I want. I want to feel connected
That's what I think good art does it inspires you to sort of be better. It's like philosophy kind of I feel like

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Yes, it's philosophy. It's like how do you want to live and that's why?
Yeah, and I promise we're not getting political here, but all the music and movies that inspired me my whole life
they
I think they're there for a reason to inform
How you want to sort of show up in your life and the world you want how you want the world to look you know what I mean?

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Um, it's like fight club right fight club you watch I watch fight club and I'm like
I love this. I love the anti-consumer
Like elements of this movie. Yeah, and I don't but I don't take it to the extreme
Like they do like they're living in you know run-down houses
But um like I'm still a consumer capitalist consumer, but but it also is like it's so you now little yeah

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Yeah, yeah, it adds perspectives of things and you can be like why am I
Killing myself for all this shit. Yeah
Anyway, I'll tell you what father uh one of the fathers when we were
Bear I think it was my godfather. We were
laying to rest and I was talking to father as we were walking away from the gravesite and he goes well now the family can fight over all the bullshit

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Right, and they did then they did they did
brutal man
Just remember like when you're sitting there killing yourself for all this shit and thinking and being and beating yourself up for all the shit you weren't able to consume
That when when you pass away

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It goes to the second hand store
Nobody fucking wants it. It's not more traumatic than taking your loved one shit to the fucking thrift store that
When their life crumbles down you say what the fuck are we doing? Yes, yes
But you lose sight of it you you know within a couple years you just being on the hands of really your back to like

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Well, I want the gold silver wire today or whatever. Yes
I'm not above it. I still fucking do it, but I have to I have to
Wrap my head around you and you said this one time we were trying to choose a car
And we're not the kind of people that like buy brand new so it's like oh we've always been like secondhand, you know
I get those two to three year old cars folks. That's where you make the most

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Anyway, so we're looking at our the cars and we're trying to decide how much money you want to spend right like
Realistically, and you sit in a nice car with all the fucking pretty bells and whistles
And I was sitting there as a but we're also looking at the price tag of it and you go just remember you said this to me

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Oh remember
This is going to be an old car
to
Like everything that feels really pretty in here isn't going to fill that fun
here in a little bit
And it kind of was like oh geez like I was okay. I must have just watched fight club or something
It was all

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So we're sitting there and I was driving in my car that I wanted so bad which car was that but the car I have now as I kind of
The first time the first time we drove it before we actually bought one no there's a we were I was
You said this to me when we were buying a
Altima
Anise on Altima. Oh, okay, and then a few like a decade later or whatever

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We were I sat in the maximum mm-hmm and
I was looking at all in the maximums really aren't lovely they're nice. Mm-hmm, but um
It was funny because I was like sitting there with my fucking
How long go was this this was years ago?
And um, I'm sitting there looking at all the shit and I was like well, this is very pretty but

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This is just can be an old car one day and I was in my car the other day and I was trying to remember and I have I can we keep cars like for fucking ever
So I have a my older niece on Altima or I mean my older niece on maximum now and
I remember how pretty and new everything fell in there mm-hmm and I was driving and it felt like

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Old oh, yeah, and I was like that feeling kind of hit and then what you said to me kind of hit and I was like
ah
Life, you know mm-hmm
It's so fucking weird
It's really it really is a magic spell they put on us in America. We live in we're so advertised too through our media

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Yeah, which is gonna be something that a little little little snake preview
I believe the next episode will record will be a discussion of that I had
When I interview dr. Jacques Valet there were some things that we need to unpack
And I think this is a good venue for it here on breaking social norms
So I'm gonna explain to you what he was saying because when you when I was interviewing him

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I was confused by what he was saying because he's really intelligent. Yeah
And then when I went back and listened and took notes on it. I was like oh shit
I think I found some really interesting things here about the occult
He's kind of telling you that to understand the UFO phenomenon is to understand the occult
I think that's my interpretation but as part of that there's something really interesting

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I found that connects us into
some synchromysticism ideas and
this idea of
our reality being shaped by
media magicians
Anyway, we'll get into it that'll probably be next week. So anyway
Before we move on to the next topic though, you know, I like to talk about the cast and crews of shows. That's my favorite

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The main character Molly or the main character Michelle is played by actress Michelle Williams
You know the blonde the woman the main character and
she
was in
Shutter Island, Rude Leo
And she was married to Heath Ledger

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Oh, and I think they met on broke back mountain. Yes, and she was in broke back mountain. Yeah, that's right
Yeah
She's from Cali Spell Montana, which I believe is where David Lynch is also from oh wow. Yeah, then you've got
Jenny Slate is the other main character. She's her best friend who's with a little time

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She was on the Nicole show remember that funny. We love that show. She's very funny. She was also in the
It ends with us it ends with oh, okay with that whole nonsense with Blake Lydley and Justin Bell Doni
Yes, yes, she's kind of on the wrong side of that. Oh, is she yes, okay? I mean whatever

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Then you've got um, she is funny
Yeah, she's really good the
Did you notice the um
Trying the main so like the one the guy that lived across the hallway from
The main character. Yeah, a guy's name is Rob Delaney and he was in the Deadpool movies. Do you reckon did you recognize him?

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Kind of but I was talking with the girls that I work with at the salon
And she was saying how much she loved that guy and that's why she found this show
She's the one that told me about the show. I heard about it in this salon. So I watched it
But she had said that he had this really great show
That everybody loved

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But his two-year-old son died or his two-year-old son? Yeah, I was reading about that. Yeah, and he
Couldn't continue it because he was just like I listen. I'm not in a space to because I guess he produced it also or something
And he was like I just am not in the space to
Do this right now
brutal. Yeah

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uh and then the other
Character of note sissy spaceick plays the main chick's mom. Yes, she was from
Carrie remember they were the Carrie. Oh, yes
Yeah, I recognized her in this show. I was like, how do I know this chick? It's because she was Carrie
So I got all star cast check it out. It's on Hulu

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It's not Hulu. I think it's also wasn't on FX
It's on F. Maybe maybe that's where it was originally originally on F.
All of the episodes are out so you can just go watch it. It is
Give yourself like you're gonna it'll fuck you up. It's gonna fuck you up. It will fuck you up. It is so good
And you're not gonna know it until it's over and you're like oh wow, okay. You'll feel all of the emotions

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Hey, does this make you when you watch those shows because you know what it does to me
because it is such a perfect example of
female friendship
Mm-hmm
And I saw this one woman because it where there's a you know the whole
conversation of like the male epidemic the loneliness epidemic and the boy the man versus bear argument and all of them

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um and this all of these
Men are going on to these women's
Tiktok's and they're saying stuff like have fun dying alone with your cats
And this one woman said to this man
She goes women don't die alone men die alone
Oh

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Yikes
Oh no
And it's fucking true. We don't die alone
Women do not die alone. I feel like women have the upper hand and you're and you're
In some ways we have the upper fucking hand
Anyway, so I thought this was such a gorgeous
example of that feminine friendship

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Yeah
And it made me kind of sad for men
That you guys know we don't want it. Yeah
Don't be sad for us. It's fine
Then I was like
They'll never fucking experience this thing
And I think that that's not true. I think the closest thing that you guys experience is in is the military

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Yeah, totally
Of being trauma bonded in this
You have to rely on each other you've only got each other like there's literally no one else there with you. So you guys are like
Like dry-humping each other
Yeah like for funnies
Yeah or like making fun of each other and cutting each other down and stuff like

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There's never
And I think that's intimate for men
Yeah as a woman I look at that and I'm like that's like funny and like grab assy and silly
But like there's uh this you guys don't get that really like intimate part but I'm like maybe
I'm looking at it to a female lens of being like
I feel sad for them, but I think maybe

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Maybe that's not necessarily true that you guys get at experience, but in a masculine way maybe it's
I would guess so I mean there's no way for me to know
I mean how would you fill up a man sat down with you and you guys shared like
A deep wound a little uncomfortable would you yeah?

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I don't think that makes it right
I just
It's just something we don't do
Well, I know you don't fucking do it what I'm saying is would you like it?
I don't know I'd have to you'd have to have me reboot from scratch to like it
It's impossible to know
You know I don't know well I've been watching baked cookies here and kind of well you okay

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So I feel like Bill Burr is like a guys guy mm-hmm. He's a total guys guy. He's a comedian
He is fucking hilarious
But I've been watching a couple of like
Clips of him and one time he broke down on stage. He was talking about his father. Mm-hmm. And um
It was like one of the most like

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It was really it was really beautiful. Thank you like, but I don't think it felt nice to him. Mm-hmm
I bet it was like really scary to him. Yeah
Yeah, I'm not sure what that is we'd have to unpack that
I don't know. I feel like you guys did want it in a
I feel like that's part of your loneliness epidemic

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Probably I don't I don't think that it's a healthy way of living
But it's what
We've been raised to be like so
And you fucking fight for by the way
Yeah, Jack gases
All right, anyway, moving on watch it. It's fucking phenomenal. You're it'll destroy you it destroyed me

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So enjoy
Let's move on to TikTok. Okay, TikTok the algorithm has changed uh-huh
Uh-uh, my TikTok is fucking crazy right? It's crazy right now. I
For people who don't do TikTok
there is
since the
as you

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Well
Are aware there's tariff situations going on and currently and who knows beautiful tariffs
Ha
The that's actually pretty good. It was pretty good. I like that
Thanks
125
Teriffs on Chinese import anyways. We got tariffs going on against China and

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It starts a trade war as everybody knew yeah, and now
I feel like TikTok has been weaponized by the Chinese
They're for sure gonna get banned don't you think
Probably I feel like this is their last doesn't matter. We'll find another way
It is the fucking they are not putting this fucking toothpaste back in the tube. It's over

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It's over. Well, I noticed a yesterday today's April 13th
I noticed yet you mentioned it to me. You're like there's all these like
People in China talking about how you can buy products directly from them, you know, because everyone knows the sort of
the bullshit the sort of uh
What do you call it?
The trope right that oh they make air Jordans for 50 cents and some sweatshop in China and then Nike sells them for 150 bucks

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Like everybody knows that like that's not really a surprise to anybody. No
and
So when you said that I was like okay because growing up in the east coast we have flea markets where there's
Like tons of uh, you know like Chinese people and Jamaican people selling
tons of what I presumed was bootleg stuff
Uh-huh

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You know air Jordans that look identical to air Jordans
But what and they're 20 bucks and you're like oh wow, that's crazy. Uh-huh
But now I'm starting to question everything because
The Chinese people are sending over tiktoks addressed directly to American saying
I'll give you an example like they're talking about the luxury brands are like look that we make all these

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They show you the factory. They'll show you where they're making them. Yeah, they're like this is where we make
Uh, but story and hardware yeah restoration hardware this is
Lawn tide pods they're like we sell tide pods. We'll say you 20 for a buck
Yeah, and then they flat out say they talk shit and they're like you're all the garks that you let run your place is is ruining your whole country and

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If you don't want to support them anymore, you can just buy straight from us. This is what he said he said this and it hit me straight my soul. He's like
America's government allowed America's companies to
Go where the cheap labor was which was China and we did it for cheaper and

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In that exchanged that brought lots of money into our economy and
our rich people
Built roads with it and put it into the education system and
Your we made it for cheap
Sold sent it back to America where they hiked the price up 100 fold 200 fold and

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Your billionaires
bought
Your government and bought
Yachts with it
And basically took it away from all of you
And sold it back to you for all of your fucking money

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So now your dumber
Your roads are falling apart
and your oligarch is
Out in the fucking ocean and their yachts which is the fuck it which is the truth
Yeah
Good day sir good nice like yikes
Like the like that man
I was like whoo

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Yeah, I never seen anything like this where they're the Chinese people that don't directly trade war
You need a revolution
Yeah, they're they're trying to spark a revolution
Dan what's the truth
I don't disagree with what they're saying but we have we're having a shadow war right now
They're where boots are in the ground in Panama. I don't know if people knew that or not

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but
People say you're being radicalized by tiktok
I've seen that on the reviews. Oh really yeah bad news folks. I've been radicalized for a really long fucking time
Way before tiktok tiktok just confirms your bias
Yeah, exactly
Well the the media and okay radicalized by I'm fucking 45 what am I 14 you that is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard

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Jesus Christ. It's funny to me because
Not how many days you march forth we released an episode called
Clapsing the American Empire
These are the same fucking people that are on patriots.com and watching Fox fucking news
And then as the balls to turn around and tell me I'm fucking radicalized bitch. Are you fucking out of your mind?

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Have you lost it? We all have our echo chambers. I'm not in no fucking echo chamber. I long I watch all kinds of stuff
I know. I'm just trying to make conversation. No fuck off. That is not a thing
Uh-huh not for me that is a thing for other people that sit there and and consume their
their
Right-wing propaganda

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But like I for a really long time. I here's a deal
I didn't um I didn't grow up in a house to talk politics. Mm-hmm. I didn't grow up
I was poor. We didn't talk politics. I didn't know anything about anything. I didn't know
What the democrats believed. I didn't know the republicans believed. I grew up in a republican state. Mm-hmm

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And I was like what the fuck does everybody here believe in and I had to out you went to school
Uh-huh and me and you started watching
politically incorrect started watching the nightly news started watching documentaries started watching Fox news
I watched Fox News all through 9/11

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That's true. That's true
So just sit there and tell somebody that they aren't that they're in their echo chamber
It's like no bro. I consume all kinds of fucking shit and for and
Just because I don't believe what you believe doesn't mean that I'm just listening to the people I want to fucking listen to mm-hmm

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I got a good example too because
Right now with the economy and the tariffs and the stock market. I watch finances very closely. Right
I would call myself an investor. I invest with my own brokerage
So I am always watching this news cycle and the financial cycles and see what's going on and

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We're in a real shit show right now as far as investments go
There I say market manipulation regardless of where you stand politically on whether you're like oh yeah
This is gonna make America great in the future or whatever you think uh-huh
It's none of that matters what I'm trying to say is that

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uh
The market is doing crazy
unpredictable things like how the stock markets tank and then the bond market also starts to sell off
Which is like something that doesn't typically happen and it gets into how
You know
The American debt is funded through those bonds and that's why when they say oh China owns all of our debt

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Well they're the ones that have those bonds so when we start doing shit they don't like they're like all right
Fuck you guys and they start selling it and that makes the supply demand shift and it uh we have the basis for
Our treasury bonds are the basis for the global economy because we are the if you recall from our may
fourth

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episode called collapsing the American Empire radolios changing world order theory
Which I'm gonna put a link in the show notes because you kind of listen to because it's very very important
uh
We were the reserve currency of the world we are the reserve currency of the world world
And radolio one of the smartest investors of all time

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We unpacked what he was telling us on our show and he straight up told everybody
The cycles of the empire is gonna shift and the Chinese are gonna take over
And that's exactly what's happening with the economy as we speak right right wrong up or down doesn't really matter
But my point is when you want to talk about news biases. I check all the news

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and
the
The sort of liberal news is your CNN's MSNBCs those kinds of organizations
They are
Every day talking about the stock market and the global economy and what's going on because crazy shits happening
Yes, you go to Fox News not a fucking peep right not a peep. They'll all scroll down 20 30 articles nothing

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And I'm like that's insane right that's absolutely insane
And it's the number one news place they want to say that they're the all turn they are the
What are they the alternative news or what do they call themselves?
So they think that they're like the underdog. Yeah, they they sell themselves as the underdog when they are the mainstream media
I tell people this constantly to try to wake people up from the deception

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But if you look at just Google top 10 cable news shows
Nine or even 10 out of those 10 are Fox News shows. They are the mainstream media. So everyone and again, it's like
I don't want to I always touch with the fucking asterisk because people constantly burn me like I'm an unaffiliated voter

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I think the right has some valid points the left has some valid points
But if you think that the Fox News isn't the mainstream media you are absolutely wrong right
I mean, it depends on what you want to call the mainstream media
I would call the mainstream media the media that most people consume
Right, which is Fox
Anyway
My point being is that

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There's something serious happening with a global economy with America as the reserve currency
All this is a playbook. I mean, we literally just talked about it a month ago with the red dolly, oh thing right
And to watch it happen like I'm puckering up real tight right I'm terrified right
Well, what's so insane is it's like okay, so like I'm seeing on my take talk feed right now in Instagram. I'm seeing um

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Chinese companies coming out and saying here's the bullshit
They want to all pretend that garbage is coming out of out of a China mm-hmm and that the luxury brands are
making their
their
Akutra mall whatever the fucking thing is that they're making mm-hmm. They're making it in Europe

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It's like it's not 80% of that is getting done at
In China and then they ship unfinished products
To whatever place where they do and they and they sew on the logo mm-hmm
And then they say makes all the sense in the world right right and of course they do that
This is what these corporations do they do shitty shit and they lie about everything

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They deceive you so then they he they're saying like no everything comes out of China yeah
And then they hike it up of
You know, it costs them five dollars fifteen dollars, you know five dollars for a pair of Lulu lemon
Legons that they then

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Send to America and they charge you a hundred dollars for
Which I it's
Crazy this is fucking crazy
And they're and they're and this is what's confusing to me because this is all brand new
I'll read you msn.com has an article on this is the only there's not a lot of people talking about it yet because it's but three days from now

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It's gonna be all over the place it'll be all over the news says an online firestorm is erupting on Chinese social media platforms as creators and influencers
Exposed luxury American brands that claim made in USA while quietly mass producing goods in Chinese factories
All in response to Donald Trump's latest terrifikes
President Trump has threatened to oppose up to 125% tariffs on all Chinese imports

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However China isn't staying silent online platforms including including tiktok are now flooded with videos of Chinese factory workers
Revealing the origins of big name items from Michael Kors handbags to coach purses and even leave Levi's jeans all supposedly American made
Um, and then there's like, you know AI clipped videos of Trump and musk working in sweatshops and stuff like that, but

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Those are actually hilarious
I like the comments. I was like you're gonna have to move faster than that
Moving slow as hell, but it says the factory workers are exposing contract orders sharing photos and footage of large production runs with American
Labels and then showing the bargain bin costs to make them
This isn't just an online drama the revelations are fueling China's gray market where luxury goods often from the same production lines

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Are sold at a fraction of US prices
It's also prompting Chinese consumers to question why they should pay luxury prices for goods made in their own backyard
As trade tensions escalate so does the transparency war China is turning the spotlight back on American hypocrisy and exposing the luxury illusion one tiktok at a time
Oh, and I think this is gonna be this is uh, I

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Don't know it's weird because I was you saw the videos and I was like I don't see none of that shit
And then the next morning I went on tiktok. Uh-huh. I think it was this morning or anyway yesterday morning
I went on tiktok and like it did that thing where none of the videos would load so I kind of rebooted the app
Yeah, and boom right off the bat. It was just like one video after another of these types of videos with them

(58:32):
Telling us to wake up and there's an American that you should you should have a revolution against your government and the all the garks are screwing you guys and
If you want to buy products you can buy them directly. No, okay, so what where's the propaganda
Where are we getting propaganda the the mainstream media that isn't telling us what's happening in our own fucking
Our own stock market where they're conveniently saying oh don't don't watch stock market. It's not even a big deal

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Not a fucking three months ago. They were sitting there saying that is the only thing to look at when you're when you decide to go vote
Hmm, it's a good point
So where's our propaganda coming from
Yeah, back in october it was or the or the Chinese people that are like you guys need to wake the fuck up
That's what was crazy is coming out of here you have we don't trade with you and this is what so ridiculous with what Donald Trump is saying he says that

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It's the inequality of trade that we're buying so much
Stuff from other countries like he says that they're that they're fucking us on on tariffs. That's not really what he's he's an idiot
And doesn't know what he's saying what he's trying to say is that
America
buys lots of shit from other countries, but we don't sell a lot of stuff. Yeah, they call the trade deficit is what it is

(59:51):
Exactly so our deficit is that not nobody's really buying a whole lot of stuff
And there's a couple different reasons why they're not buying stuff either of these countries are fucking
Improversed they have no money to or they're tiny
They don't have a lot of people and they don't and and they don't have enough money to buy American fucking product
Well, I mean that's an insane idea we've three hundred fifty million people in this country. It's massive

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Yes, it's like bigger than every country in the European Union
And not to mention they have shipped they have allowed every American company to ship fucking
production out of this country
And then they want to sit here and put so all Americans if they've whittled out the middle fucking class
And now we're and we were supposed to lose all of our jobs and just kind of bear all of that shit

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And now they want to have us bear the trade war also
I don't know how this doesn't end in collapse
It's gonna fucking this is insane. This is I and then half of my fucking TikTok shit is the
Trade stuff with China coming over and saying like
Your bill and this is what we've bitched about

(01:01:00):
Why don't our billionaires build fucking train stations in high-speed rail? Why don't our billionaires do
Info structure support they don't even pay fucking taxes to support their
To help support our country where they've made their fucking money. No

(01:01:21):
Yeah, I think we literally talked about it just recently
Is the idea of if I'm Elon Musk and I have more money than I could ever spend in my whole lifetime
Why not set up
Food shelters in every city across the entire country called the Elon Musk food for the poor why not that would be the greatest PR move
You could ever do in your whole life

(01:01:42):
Why not have yeah the Elon Musk fucking
School for kids who can't read good
You know like if you want to get the power of a god
Start acting as such and being like happy won't be like wow this guy's
I mean if you put if you made a road out like there's a I don't know

(01:02:03):
There's a guy the we know that built a road around this joint and I
Comment on the road every time I drive like this is a beautiful fucking road
This is a Greek
Of course it was a Greek who made this beautiful fucking road
It really is a beautiful way over the top of my you didn't need to do all this bro
Like you went extra, but it's a beautiful fucking road and I'm like this has class
This is nice. Yeah, and it makes me think about them and I think that was nice of them to spend a little extra money

(01:02:27):
Make this really nice. Yeah, and it's like I don't understand I just will never understand it
And that's why I'll never be a billionaire either but but this is what mega wants mega wants
America now we're getting political. I don't give a fuck
mega wants America to be an isolationist
Okay, but on the same hand

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mega wants out of
They don't want to spend any money outside of America
Okay, but they still want us to be the superpower
Oh, you mean they don't want to spend money helping other like countries or something?
Not even that they want us to not fund any wars not being any wars

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They don't want us they want us out of all we have bases all over the world
They want our bases to get shut down. Yeah, but they want us to have a footing
It as a superpower they still want us to have a voice that's worth listening to nobody gives a fuck what Brazil's doing
Oh, what is the Brazil president? Do they even a pro? I don't even know what their thing is is a bad. We don't even know

(01:03:32):
I don't even know what your shit is sorry. It's rude. It's fucking rude. But anyways
Do who well who cares with Brazil fucking wants?
Right and and in other countries to be fair
Let's let's highlight this the fact that you don't know if Brazil even has a president or a prime minister
or whatever they fucking call is is part of you know, they call it American exceptionalism is

(01:03:54):
We run this shit and it's like we don't have to learn what your country does because we don't give a fuck
Well, guess what mother fuckers if we say if we're handing the baton to China
Now guess what we have to learn in school with to learn what all these other people want and what their desires are sure
I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying it's like
You can't be the biggest swing and dick on the block and

(01:04:16):
Not pay for your presence in all these other countries and paying to sort of like like
It's not I want I want to call bribery but from what I understand like things are political right like the reason that and I don't know anything about USAID
I have no fucking clue. I've heard conspiracy guys say that
That's like CIA ops and shit and I have no idea so I'm not

(01:04:38):
This is a bad example, but so I want I'm gonna use like a think of
Apparently USAID had like
Operations in countries where they would feed people and give them condoms and shit like this right
And the reason we do that is to maintain our presence as the fucking biggest swing and dick in the in the world right and if
If to support your point if maga and trump and all these people say you know what

(01:05:02):
We're not spending our money on that bullshit anymore bring it all back right like that's a that's a fair assessment
Because it's like kind of crazy like dude those people starving here that fucking eggs are expensive. Yeah
They're not wrong either
But you have to understand what the implications are of that move right that means China
It was like oh we want to be the biggest swing and dick guess what we'll go in there and we'll start feeding them

(01:05:24):
And we'll start giving them condoms right and now that country's allegiance is gonna be to China not us
And that makes you not the number one superpower anymore. So get ready to learn Chinese history motherfucker
What do they want?
I don't understand what these people want and it's what they're cake and eat it too and it's too it's not happening
It's never fucking happening that is not happening

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It's so crazy me I was sitting there watching the half of my shit is Chinese uh is Chinese uh
Like okay fine okay, no, I don't know if it's propaganda there
It's Chinese factories saying you know what America um we are going to
Directly sell to Americans instead of going through a middleman

(01:06:10):
And we make all of your luxury goods
So we'll just not put the labels on it and we'll still sell the same fucking stuff yeah
and um
You can pay the tariff
What is it 125% markup all right i'll pay 125% markup. It's about oh, I don't know
You can get a

(01:06:30):
Restoration hardware
Table for what is that that's a six thousand dollar table for rest from restoration hardware
Okay, well how about you come over here and buy it for two hundred dollars
And now you're paying four hundred fucking dollars for it or six hundred dollars for it
You're still on the fucking green
You're still better off but my what my what I want to see is how people do this what because every website

(01:06:53):
I've seen on these videos it's at the beginning they're going to clean it up
They're gonna clean it up well. I'm dying to see someone actually
Go through a transaction. They're gonna clean it up. That's it everybody's trying to figure out the work around all this bullshit
I saw another person. It was a American who who is a trucker who works for a company that sells

(01:07:13):
grocery store stuff so it's a company so
Grocery stores will call this company and this company will deliver all the groceries to this person and this this uh
truck driver was like, you know
We sell it at wholesale and we don't really care who fucking buys it
So why don't you guys just get all your fucking friends together and come and buy our groceries

(01:07:36):
Call up and do an order. It has to be a big order
But if it's big enough you will that will we don't give a shit will deliver wherever it goes
Well, that's what's interesting is when I interviewed Dr. Jock Valet I read his book about
The creation of the internet through arpanet
And that was they those guys those like early computer scientists guys they were

(01:07:57):
Going to echelon which is like you ever heard of echelon?
It's in California. It's this place where
It's a lot of sort of new age a called esoteric thought
and practices
And it's about expanding your mind and opening up and all those sort of creativity elements
And they originally said the internet was a way that we could connect and cut out the elites

(01:08:22):
Yes, it's a way of getting rid of that middle man getting rid of the gatekeepers
And that was the original vision of the the internet. I think it just happened and it's I mean
It I don't know
I think it just happened. So you got half of this happening on my on one part of my feed and here comes the other half
Which is like the factory the farmers

(01:08:42):
And these farmers are
Complaining about the tariffs and they're complaining about whatever but then in the same breath
They're like well didn't you vote for Trump and they're like yeah, but I feel like we have to make
Um you have to make sacrifices for your country
I hear that sentiment often from people who um

(01:09:04):
Are our Trump supporters the Trump supporters now
I was like this makes zero sent you you're going to lose your family farm
For this idea of tariffs
To get manufacturing which is now it's going to take a decade

(01:09:27):
To get these manufacturing back into America. This is it's gonna take this is not going to be
It'll probably take longer than a decade because it's gonna be more than that you you can't get
People to work shitty jobs now not just that
it's
We have to trade for a fucking lumber

(01:09:48):
Even if they go into it which they're doing now they're going to go into all of our
National forest to start logging
And so we that way we don't have a national forest anymore which we barely had hardly any of those
And they're gonna go and start cutting down fucking trees
So we can maybe maybe guys we get to experience dust bowls again won't that be fucking phenomenal and

(01:10:10):
All of that wood comes from
Canada
We have a little bit coming from other areas, but we have a significant amount that comes from Canada
We're gonna lose all of that or we're gonna pay more for it
Why I forgot what my fucking point was
I'm just so fucking upset about it, but anyway, so half of these these farmers

(01:10:32):
I'm gonna I gotta get off that point so I don't even know what the fuck up my thought my trainer thought was
But I was sitting there watching and I was like I wonder why they're trying to um
What's their idea? Why would they want to lose all of their help with the
Immigration situation? Why would they lose? What would they do all of this for just for this idea of like trying to get

(01:10:55):
Manufacturing back in here right right um
And somebody put it out in the into the comments and I was like that's exactly what it was
They think that the government the biggest handouts go out to farmers. Okay. Yeah, I've heard this yeah
And I think Michael Pauline's books talks about this. I think that they think
The government's gonna come and bail them out again

(01:11:17):
And that they're not gonna lose their farms which I don't think is gonna happen
I think they're gonna actually get bought up by the
That's exactly what I think is gonna happen is the family farms gonna get lost and the corporate farms are gonna come in
And they're gonna buy these farms for pennies on the dollar
That's what I think is gonna happen

(01:11:37):
Okay, Trump ain't coming in to fucking save this shit
Yeah, do you see all the people at the inauguration lined up it won no fucking farmers? You see farmers there
There's no farmers. I didn't see any farmers. I saw a lot of fucking
billionaires
and then when the when the
when the
Market dropped and then a few people bought in the dip and

(01:11:58):
Trump was in the Oval Office
bragging about his buddy billionaire friends making hundreds of billions of dollars. There's a clip of Charles Schwab in there
Yes, yeah, that's enough and he was
boasting how he helped Charles Schwab make a hundred billion dollars in that dip
Yeah, this is all eerily similar to like the pandemic

(01:12:21):
Situation where there was a transfer of wealth. This is all great reset stuff, right? This is the great reset
This is the you'll have nothing and
Oh, I can't think of the term now
You'll all nothing and you'll be happy or something. I guess I guess
I mean yeah, I know you saying bad and the way they do that is by
collapsing everything and the billionaires is the only ones in position to own the whole country

(01:12:45):
They're gonna buy all the houses and all the farms and now that family farmer is gonna have to pay rent
To for his own fucking farm
To work the land
The same way they were gonna have to pay rent to blackrock to live in a fucking coffin apartment
Just like these uh these long-called truckers look what they did to them
They make them own the trucks now they may or even the trucks that have the name of the the companies on them

(01:13:10):
Okay, they have to maintain those trucks that comes out of the truckers and
mm-hmm
So when they have to buy new wheels for their fucking truck it's on them when they have to maintain the truck
It's on them even though it's not their truck to maintain it to typically do that they have to do it it comes out of their side
Is that crazy?

(01:13:31):
Well, I think uh I
I mean call me a conspiracy theorist, but I think that whole radario talk about the the world order theory
Switching over to China. I mean
It's given those vibes for sure. I don't know how these people how they're not scared
I'm pretty scared

(01:13:53):
Where are the rest of the conspiracy theorists screaming about this?
Some of them are I see a lot of people talking about it now more than usual
Who um
You know, I don't want to go on say how are they saying it? What are they saying? I've seen people throwing shots at the tech the technocrats at least
You know your Elon monster Peter teals not a strong uprising against trump necessarily

(01:14:16):
But hey
Well, I'm happy that the conspiracy community is starting to question things
And that you know what that's another thing, but
me being indoctrinated at 40 fucking five the uh
My come from a fought my father

(01:14:37):
Both of my brothers my husband both of my grandparents my grandpa's were in the military
Like that's all right wing leaning
Patriot bullshit
I've consumed right wing
propaganda most of my life as all of us

(01:14:59):
In the military I was reading bill O'Reilly books um I was listening to talk a.m. Radio. I mean
It's wild to think that I haven't I started you're a fucking conspiracy theorist
I folks I live with a conspiracy theorist I I live breathe and eat

(01:15:22):
Sort of conspiracy content, which is lean right right wing
So that's why I'm always hesitant to go too hard to paint because
There's sometimes some things that I don't disagree with like it's I'm not just this 100% like
Cosine the liberals cosine the liberals at all another you but
I think people get the wrong perception because there is this idea that if you're in the conspiracy community

(01:15:47):
You have to be this alt-right
Sort of fucking white supremacist guy. Yeah, that's a nationalist. Yeah, it's like no dude you guys are being played
Yes
In the same way that normies who don't consider conspiracies they're being played yes, so
Didn't the middleman I don't know all right well you got a question for me. Let's get into this mystery question

(01:16:08):
Okay, anyways sorry I yelled I just get very passionate
And I don't know everything I you're on some high e. Josie shit lately, so listen
That's true. I am I'm being a bitch. I'm sorry
Um
It's the what do I always do I scream at everybody and then I apologize
It's just my Josie's apology hour. Josie's apology door

(01:16:31):
We haven't had one of those in a while
I just get frightened. I'm sorry Charlie Murphy
I get frightened and I and I
I worry about people anyways. I worry about us and people and what this means and I just feel like
everybody is
not thinking

(01:16:51):
And that could be me as well because I don't think I do my best when I'm in stressful situation. Oh, I hope I'm I hope I'm also overreacting and
so I
Listen, I'm take it with a grain of salt. I'm doing my best right now. I don't know. I'm in a state of fear
Anywho anyhow, let's go to something fun. Okay, you got a question for me. What's the question? I was on take talk

(01:17:13):
Getting radicalized by the Chinese police
I was being radicalized by blue-haired liberals and the Chinese government and
You're now going by they them Josie
And there was there's a person that everybody was talking about this woman who had

(01:17:43):
Got she's in like I think she's like in the rap community or like she's in a pop culture
Space okay, but she had do you remember back in the early 2000s late 90s the Daytona 500
Where that porn star
Fucked up 500 people. No you do too. It's called the Houston 500

(01:18:12):
I have no idea what you're talking about
Okay, sorry, I'm sorry the Houston 500 all right
I'm familiar here familiar
There's another golden just did it
If she did a thousand people okay

(01:18:32):
My question is this is a lot of dicks it's a lot of dick
I kind of feel bad for her. I feel like that would not be very pleasant
Um, it's a choice though. I guess we all make them
Uh
Isaac
What's there?
If you had

(01:18:54):
One man out there
And put out a casting call
Okay, to a thousand women
Okay, that he had a magic boner pill that he could fuck
Forever long this took okay
Yeah, yeah, yeah, could you find a thousand women

(01:19:16):
To have sex with this man to show up to the casting call for this
Whatever only fans porn whatever the fuck it is
I think you could
Accept I do you think look into my eyes
I think you think that you could find a thousand women

(01:19:40):
To stand in line
And have one guy come through and have sex with each of us
You look at my fucking eyes and you say this listen, let me let me clarify
I think for for instance, um, I don't I've heard about this woman doing this gangbang uh-huh

(01:20:03):
I presume she's like pretty right, you know, I don't know I heard I and I'm not being for these
I haven't seen this I don't know what also what it looks like she
She could look like a fucking troll
And get the same amount of men to show up
Regardless I think that for them to secure a thousand men for this gangbang
They probably only had to petition or ask

(01:20:25):
5,000 men and a thousand of them
20% of men were like yeah, I'll do it uh-huh
Whereas I think if you've got a man
Who is like decent looking or whatever? Okay, and you got a magical weener. Got a magical dick looks like Brad Pitt whatever

(01:20:46):
Okay, I think you would you would have to put out that casting call to not 5,000 women, but probably like
5 million women
And you could get a thousand women you ain't getting a thousand women you can get a thousand women with five million
You are not getting a thousand women no fucking chance no fucking way

(01:21:07):
Absolutely not okay, you might get a couple hundred women see that's what I'm saying
Then you might get you will say 50 million women you know that's 50 million women you can get a thousand women
But your point remains the same that I think where you're going with this is that
What the fuck is wrong with you is what I'm gonna ask

(01:21:30):
I think that
This boils down to different desires
Okay, I think that
I still don't think I don't think you'd get 200 women with a large enough casting call you can zero. I'm saying zero money

(01:21:51):
There's no money in there's no money because I get I can bear it guaranteed that they're not paying the money
So the motivation here for the thousand men was the fuck was like you get to fuck this good looking chick
This ogre chick you get to fucking overlooking chick
This troll this dead body that we found behind this dumpster

(01:22:11):
Gentlemen, I'm with you and show up and stick your dumb idiot
Weeners in this rotting corpse behind the fucking dumpster
Was it warm? It was it's warm from the sun
From sitting in the dumb fucking sun look I understand your I understand what you're saying here

(01:22:32):
And it's like and I know fuck this gallon of sludge that's warm
From the sun it smells like shit, but you could put your dumb dick in it
Listen, I understand the sentiment and I'm not gonna argue
It's like the argument about teacher sleeping with students and

(01:22:54):
In what fucking it's probably by and far largely more men raping the young girls than it is women raping young boys
But the women it exists it happens, right? It does exist. Yeah, I think it happens a little bit more than we know
Yeah, but but to pretend that it's an even Stevens argument is insane. I mean men are clearly more
disturbed sexually

(01:23:16):
I don't know if the stirs are a word, but motivated sexually than women
So I get where you're going with that however
That's also recall women. I think the only way you're getting women is if there's money involved
Okay, there was no money. There's no money. It was just you you can
Fuck it's zero. I'm saying you're gonna get maybe you might get five. Okay, I agree out of I agree with this

(01:23:42):
I agree that's actually a good caveat I agree
Because I bet those guys didn't get paid anything they didn't get paid nothing if they got paid I think it was probably minimal
But look it up look it up if if they paid the Houston 500
Men that showed up if they got any money for showing up to do that because I have to know now

(01:24:03):
What year was that I don't know how you have any nerve to tell me that you think any women are gonna show up
This is outrageous. This is outrageous says right here. Yeah, Chad GVT
Yes, the male performers in the 1999 adult film Houston 500 were paid for their participation. Okay
This event featuring adult actress Houston was a hybrid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh

(01:24:27):
It's not not publicly disclosed how much they got paid look up what's that chick's name? Who did the who did the thousand people that they just did look that up
Because that was a porn company so they had some money to put behind that
I think this is the only fans bullshit. I don't think she paid them a dime
Is it lily Phillips? I don't know oh

(01:24:48):
How many people did this what the fuck
gang bang
It changed it to ganging no chat gpt
gang bang with lily
Phillips I'm pretty sure that was her name
How much did the men who did gang bang with lily Phillips get paid?

(01:25:08):
Oh, it's stumpin chat gpt. It's like hey, it's a Sunday. I hope you know
Lord's day now listen
I think it's different motivations. I don't think this is a fair argument to be had I could easily lob this question your way. Oh do it
Let me tell you why okay

(01:25:30):
Do you remember there was a show we watched in fucking 1999 or some shit? Okay
that had
One dude and all these chicks lined up to marry this dickhead who wants to marry a millionaire remember that yeah
Who wants to marry a millionaire and they played that piece of shit savage garden song at the end?
I knew I loved you before I met you

(01:25:53):
Okay
Mary you fuck Mary
What is wrong with you that is not even close
Excuse me. You're interdisgusting excuse me
Who wants to marry somebody versus come fuck this dead person behind the dumpster

(01:26:18):
I'm just saying it's that
You might be hard pressed to find men who want to marry just some female
You know what I mean okay, I don't understand like the bastard show like the bastard show you have to you have to go through for what drives people
Yeah, exactly that's what I'm trying to get at and I get it you're probably well there's shows where there's

(01:26:43):
One chicken 20 dudes fighting for her thing I get that I'm just saying that
Desires and drives like they're they're hanging over these women's head like hey this guy's got a million bucks and it's like
That's security women one security here's a deal that was in 1999

(01:27:06):
Okay, I'm talking 20 years the Houston fiber you think do you think
It's fucking 20 25 and she just got a thousand guys to bang her okay
You think if they did that today
If they did a show today called who wants to marry a millionaire
How many women do you think would fucking go for that casting call a lot?

(01:27:29):
Zero I don't think anybody oh that's not a
Climbing in this economy. Yeah, this economy. Who wants to marry a Chinese one millionaire
You think that with when we're having discussions of women
Not having relationship with men that choosing bear over man. Okay. Yeah having

(01:27:52):
Talking about joining
What do they call lavender marriages
Uh
Going into are you crazy that they're what is that called the that thing in China in
Korea where the women are saying we're not happy movement the four b movement yeah, all right, right
You think in 2025 in the male loneliness epidemic

(01:28:17):
That they could have a show called who wants to marry a millionaire and they could find 50 women to to come on
I don't believe it. I do not fucking believe it
Women have a lot more power than you're putting out there I think what do you mean?
The women have all the power here women aren't marrying men women ain't fucking men at this point and you guys have the

(01:28:42):
All the cards in your hand and you're like mad at the men. I'm like, I don't want to tell you you guys got them all
I'm looking at the situation and I'm like men
What are we fucking doing
It's time to check. I don't know go to therapy
Anything but that

(01:29:03):
They'll literally go online and join a militia
They're holding out for the sex dolls the AI bad news
Sex dolls bad fucking news if you're rude to chat gpt. It won't be nice. See it doesn't want to work with you
So you think AI's gonna want to fuck you
With your shitty fucking attitudes and you're bad fucking hygiene

(01:29:26):
No
They they're AI the robots aren't gonna want to fuck you guys either
You're gonna have to work at being a nice bad news
You're gonna have to work on your personalities and being nice to human beings
And figure not what women like
Instead of only liking what you like and hoping that everybody fucking caters around what your fucking interests are

(01:29:50):
Surroll passion for you
Right it's a passion because I feel like
This is what's going to destroy our country
This right here. Okay. This is the conservative side of josey. Yes

(01:30:14):
I think men
Not fucking picking this up and waiting to join the
What is that called
What's that called
like the
The online bullshit
The matrix yeah, not another matrix, but like

(01:30:36):
Yeah, the fucking matrix who gives a shit
You guys wanted to have sex with sex dolls and being the matrix
Is going to destroy
Humanity out I agree because you are unwilling
To round out a personality
Figure out what women are attracted to and

(01:30:58):
And put yourself out there
for women to
Be around you and understand that like hey, okay, there's things that we find attractive and things that we don't find attractive and what might
Men find attractive and men are almost the exact opposite to what women find attractive and men yeah
The technology is gonna kill us all

(01:31:18):
And I think that loneliness epidemic is like
Actually kind of scary
I'm like this is horrendous. We got to figure this out. Yeah, I mean having
More in cells hanging around isn't good
Yeah
They're shooting up fucking schools man

(01:31:39):
Dangerous they're dangerous. They're joining militias
They're becoming white nationalists
This is the downside of having the internet connect people now the in cells can connect with each other and form up
And group up and tell each other nonsense. Yeah, and then start pushing red pill alpha male bullshit content

(01:32:01):
Yes
It's a real genie getting out of the bottle here
Anyways
You see I think it's a door okay. I will I don't think though in
2025 you could get that many those women to to sign up for that show
I don't think that show would exist in this year interesting to see if it could happen. I think you'd have enough people just trying to get on TV

(01:32:27):
That you could make it happen, but okay, maybe that maybe that would be the driver
But I don't think you'd have a real genuine stable women that are like you know, I really do want to marry a millionaire and
I'll compete for that
I think literally only to be on TV
Yeah, maybe

(01:32:47):
But maybe that was the original motivation to could have been uh
But to
stand around
with
999
Of your closest girlfriends. No or guy for her like if you're a man and get it with 999

(01:33:10):
Of your favorite bros
To have sex with this chick
That's I mean that is insane
It's fucking nuts
It's insane
It's
The craziest thing I've ever heard in my life is there a video of this like I'm sure it's not only that's why they did it right it's gotta be

(01:33:34):
Thousand dudes. Oh my god. What do you decide to go first and last?
Isn't that crazy it's I remember the Houston 500 it had
Fluffers working overtime. Yeah, it was just it was chaos and I thought how can anyone do this? How long would you have I mean they'd have to have calling times

(01:33:57):
Because you could have just all stand there and wait
That's so weird
Look how long it takes you to load a plane
How many people are on a plane how many people are on a plane I have no idea
You know it's probably like 30 rows times four people
120 people that takes that's crazy now 10 planes

(01:34:21):
Yeah, load load up 10 planes in one more like the single door in the single door
I'm sure they were using all three doors
That I think I mean you have to
Wow, all right well crazy bill. I just think

(01:34:41):
what a
This week has been a real mind fuck guys. Why do you think Aaron Goodwin's wife tried to get him killed?
I don't know who that is from the ghost adventures
Speaking of crazy women. Oh, okay. She tried to kill Aaron Goodman. He's the most beloved character in all ghost adventures

(01:35:02):
Why?
We are not in their marriage. I know that's fair. Maybe cheated on her
I bet he cheated probably
I bet you he cheated
I mean you're famous
got all that
Groovy ghost chicks
Creepy emo goth Groovy's got ghost chicks

(01:35:26):
um
Aaron huh he lost all that weight
When I see a guy loses a bunch of weight I'm like bad news mama
man can't handle it. They can't get hot. Uh-uh
Maybe women can't eat it though. Yeah, anyone. Yeah exactly. Anyone has like a massive globe like that

(01:35:52):
It's over your marriage is over Aaron got skinny and he's famous
He probably fucked some chick
Do you think I mean that or do you think that they're they're bringing spirit home with them? Oh
I think I worry about that. I think Aaron and

(01:36:13):
Zach
Are bringing a lot of spiritual energy with them home. Yeah
Well when we went to the Zach Begins um
Like fear fact. What was that called the fear the museum something?
Haunted museum haunted museum. It was I don't remember what it was called
That awful energy. Oh, it made you crazy. You were trying to break into the edgine

(01:36:37):
Pot that he was boiling bones
Remember
There you're like let me in. I want to touch it. I was like no. It's my glass for a reason. Josie
She possessed. I rolled my ankle. I was getting dizzy in there. I was scary and it was on
Boards like they had like
Because they made it like look like a barn or something like that in there

(01:37:00):
And I said we were walking on like two by fours or one by one or one by fours or something like that
And my foot rolled a little and it's getting light headed while I was in there. It was yeah
I don't like that. We did a show about that didn't we yeah, when did we do that
When we went to Vegas a couple years ago
Yeah, it was like in the middle it was just after the pandemic was starting to let up

(01:37:22):
Should I put a link in the show notes? Oh, I don't know who cares. They can look it up. I guess. I like to put links in the show notes. I know you do
Um
All right anyways
You have no good you have no good uh argument for your gender besides I don't
You're driven

(01:37:43):
Yeah, I mean we're pigs I can't
I can't say anything otherwise
Let's say you had the let's marry a millionaire
Do you think you'd get a thousand women to show up for that?
Yeah
No you're fucking you don't think so no

(01:38:03):
A thousand
1000
Let's say it's not televised
And it's on a YouTube channel
Not televised
Just on a YouTube only YouTube okay
Just YouTube channel that's not even that well known
Yeah

(01:38:24):
A thousand people showing up for that
Thousand women showing up to get married
I'm sure you're fucking insane I don't you're crazy
You're elunatic I don't see this is why we can't have this conversation because you're not being for real
Look men are pigs
And I uh I agree that women are more evolved

(01:38:47):
Spiritually emotionally
But there might be a reason for that you know
Why you guys fight it so much though and you hate us men hate us I don't I love women
No, you love women, but are you the norm? No
Most men are uh pretty mean
Yeah, they're not very nice

(01:39:09):
Now listen the I was looking for I was gonna put a link in the show notes for that lost Vegas because it was actually a really fun show
If from what I remember uh
And it was a patreon only bonus episode so guess what that means you gotta sign up
You gotta sign up
I put a link in the show notes you can check it out. It was called the leaving lost Vegas from August 2021

(01:39:31):
And
We talked to man that what that doesn't seem like it was that long ago crazy in the description
I put we discussed our trip to Vegas during the peak of the covid transmission because that's what it was back in 21 in the summer we went
The pain and suffering that is the strip mask mandates dropping mid trip

(01:39:52):
Because apparently they dropped the mask mandates while we were there yeah, and we had to have mass everywhere
Um
And then I thought about mr. Gates from Haderot see that we hung out with and our bizarre trip to Zach baking's hot in museum
That's such a fucking grifter bizarre trip
So if you want to listen to that um
August 21 I thought there would be a preview on the free feed

(01:40:15):
I'm talking behind the scenes business here now, so I'll shut the fuck up
But uh yeah, I'll put a link in the show notes if you want to support the show go out free join the coolest community
ever
That josey manicures and maintains
Ooh, and I want to tell you josey. Oh, yeah, I remember a year or two ago

(01:40:35):
We were trying to get to 100 patreon supporters and we didn't hit it
Uh-huh, and I was on there today, and I thought let's see how josey's patreon is doing you're at a hundred and twenty six paid patreon supporters right now
What is going on over there you got quite the little community they love you fun
So there you go

(01:40:58):
Oh
All right, I'll shut the fuck up my favorite is texting with you guys if you get on the messenger and on the patreon and
I have a hard time navigating it. So if you just love to if you want to say something hop on the uh
On the comment section. It's like the easiest. I love it

(01:41:19):
There you go you want to talk josey you want to tell her about then I'm a manhater that is indoctrinated by
You're gonna have to you're gonna have to pay five bucks if you want to tell her
I tell you what a piece of shit I am pay me five dollars on you do it all you want
It's like uh, it's like the clown sitting in the dunk tank. Yeah
You're good dunker's gonna cost you five bucks

(01:41:40):
Don't I don't do it don't do it
She's a sensitive soul. I am I fucking can't the bums are the way the fuck out
Yeah, good. I get it. I do I feel that too
But yeah, there's um
Man I I'm I'm there's something I wanted to say and I completely lost it

(01:42:03):
I guess that's it stay subscribed. We're gonna have uh, I think the next episode we're gonna talk about dr. Jock Valley behind the scenes
That one's gonna be a banger
Which of course means you got to go listen to my dr. Jock Valley interview on occult symbolism of pop culture if as if you weren't already
We already know you're into that
but uh, yeah

(01:42:25):
It's gonna be good you really got to hear the behind the scenes because I'm gonna break down what he said because when I first listened to him when he was talking I was like
What?
We were so excited about you doing this in real and so excited. I got notes from his whole book. I knew the whole thing
And he's just like he's too smart. He's only feeling it's too smart
It takes you a second you gotta re-listen. He like speaks in philosophy terms almost and you're like

(01:42:48):
I'll ask him a direct question and he gives me this sort of like
story
History lesson for as an answer and I'm like
What?
But then when I release to it, I was like oh my god
I know what he's saying and I'm gonna unpack what he's saying here on this show because this is the burger menu where I the conspiracy dickhead

(01:43:10):
explains the joke the norm the normie josey what's really going on in this world perfect
So back to the normally scheduled program next week
Okay anything else? Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry, it's being such a bitch. Just the apology chore number two
It doesn't even feel good. What do you mean? What do you mean you're being a bitch? I don't know. I'm screaming at everybody out
About their gang bangs about your gang because what do gang bangs? I like that for you

(01:43:36):
Whatever, I don't get it but like do a Fox News gang bang go for it
With Shep Smith's saddest gang bang could you imagine?
Old Shep Smith throwing down pipe
No, sad
If you want to like I love that for you guys. Sorry
Okay, you know I mean a bitch. We're all under a lot of pressure

(01:44:03):
All right, everybody looks at the show notes check out some other shows check out the patreon until next time. We love you
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