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October 16, 2025 158 mins
Today we're celebrating spooky season with an epic 2.5+ hour Halloween special! We'll countdown and rank the best and worst Halloween candy, films and songs!

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(00:00):
It's spooky season and even though the grocery prices, housing market, economy, stock market, crash and surveillance, police status is the scariest thing going on right now.

(00:07):
We're gonna have a fun distraction where we count down the best and worst.
Halloween candies, films and songs in today's episode of Breaking Social Norms.
[Music]
It's a real spooky season.
Extra spooky season.
They have it up for...
Uh...
Extra spooky.
October.
You're not gonna lose some candy, you're gonna lose your life.

(00:31):
I don't know.
Yeah.
It is the best time of year though, right?
It is.
You know, we are going into fall and it's a great time to get into the suit lines.
So that'll be great for us.
Put in the suit line.
Really on...
It was like perfect for the season.

(00:52):
Oh man.
I mean, and we're actually not gonna release this episode until the following week.
But we're recording it on October 11th.
We'll explain all this later on.
But anyway, yeah, in like the crypto market just got annihilated yesterday.
And I was like, oh, I'm pucker and uptight.

(01:13):
Yeah.
Stock market, crash and...
But you know, maybe it'll turn around.
We don't know.
It doesn't matter.
We're not here to talk about that today.
We're gonna talk about Halloween, October, peak living, right?
The weather's perfect.
You know what's gonna be fun?
We can wear fingerless gloves and put on our scarves.
Like real old timey.
It's gonna be a real vintage suit line look.

(01:36):
Like newsies.
Like newsies.
Which is not a like film countdown.
It's gonna be great guys.
We can't wait.
We can kick, walk through the leaves on our way to the unemployment lines.
It's gonna be so fun.
This is good times only.
Okay.
Because right now it's a good time of the year.

(01:57):
We've got the weather is perfect.
It is perfect weather.
Vibes immaculate.
We're getting ready for hibernation season.
Yes.
This is the peak of the year.
I propose.
Yeah.
I propose.
You don't have to worry about putting on a couple of pounds right now.
Because you know, we just made it through swimsuit season.

(02:18):
And the next one should be so far in the future.
It cares, right?
It doesn't exist.
It doesn't exist.
We really have a good time.
We really have a good time.
But what really makes this time of year the best is nostalgia.
Agreed.
You know, I mean you could argue Christmas is better.
You could argue Thanksgiving is better.
Is it though?

(02:40):
There's good arguments there.
I feel like Christmas.
This starts the big three.
Yeah.
I mean my favorite is Halloween I think.
I don't know.
I mean every, you know, right before Thanksgiving I'm like, no, this is the best.
Oh, you love Thanksgiving.
I do like the food is great.
Do they turkey?
No.
(laughs)

(03:01):
Turkey sucks.
It's so dry.
But the grain.
It's a pain, man.
Turkey's hard.
It is.
It's hard to get a good flavor in that fucker.
But a Thanksgiving dinner?
Oh, baby.
But yeah, everything else.
Maybe we should do chickens.
Like chickens delicious.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Yeah.
And then you know Christmas is great too.

(03:23):
I would argue Christmas is the weakest of the three.
I agree.
Biggest build up, the most fucking work.
And it's like who cares?
Like we don't kids.
Who cares?
I know.
It's the next, like as a child, Christmas was the best.
Yeah, you couldn't beat Christmas as a kid.
That's an adult I begged to differ.
I remember I couldn't sleep the night before Christmas.

(03:44):
Oh, yeah.
And we were poor.
We didn't get it.
It wasn't like it was this big crazy thing.
But it was big and crazy for us.
It was fun.
Magic.
It was magic.
I remember laying in bed and my mom would walk by.
Me and my sister would sleep in the same bed together.
And I would, she'd walk by and she's like,
"If you do not go to sleep, Santa is not going to be able to come."
And we would lay in bed and we would giggle the whole night

(04:07):
and make each other laugh.
And then we would try and spell words to each other.
Yeah.
What do you mean you try spell words?
Like we were just kids and we were like,
"Do you not just spell mountain?"
And I should remember, I remember sticking out my head,
like this memory is very vivid.
Of us trying to spell mountain.
Huh.
It was like little.

(04:28):
Yeah, that's funny.
Is that funny?
Instead of sleeping.
Yeah, instead of sleeping.
Well, we were trying to go to sleep.
You're spelling.
We were very excited.
So I felt like that was.
Oh, for Christmas specifically.
Yeah, we were in bed the night before Christmas Eve.
Trying to go to sleep so we could wake up to Christmas.
And I couldn't, I was too excited for it.
So then we were laying there.

(04:49):
And my mom kept walking by and it's like,
"If you don't fucking go to bed."
Because she had to stay up until we went to sleep
so she could pull out all of the Christmas stuff.
Yeah.
You know?
Well, then I would argue,
but the problem with Christmas is,
it's fucking cold out.
It's miserable.
It's dark.
It's the darkest time of the year, literally.

(05:10):
And since we're doing a countdown show,
let's add a little off the cuff countdown of the top three holidays.
I'm putting Christmas in numbers as an adult.
I'm putting Christmas in number three.
Are we only talking about the top three?
Top three.
Okay, no, are we only, are we talking about all of the holidays?
No, the big three.
Halloween Thanksgiving in Christmas.
Oh, okay.

(05:31):
So we're just ranking.
How are you, how you got them as an adult?
Not, not, not as a kid.
Well, okay.
So mine's going to be a little bit different than yours
because I feel like,
like the whole month of December sucks
because it's all work for Christmas Day.
It's the worst.
But the whole month of October is great
because it's just fun and it's not like,

(05:53):
hi, if there's no, it's not a lot of work.
Everything I'm going off of, like,
how much prep do I have to fucking do?
Okay.
So Halloween night is kind of anti-climatic for me.
Okay.
But the month of October has the best feels.
Like I'm the most excited for everything that's coming.
Okay.
I'm ready for sweaters.
I'm excited for leaves to fall

(06:14):
and like to see all the pretty leaves.
I like to watch my kind of scary movies.
Mm-hmm.
I like soup.
So I'm excited for soup season.
So like that all is kind of like,
the whole month is just, all of the stuff is new.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you're re-opening that closet.

(06:37):
Yes.
Since March.
Yeah.
You're like, okay, I'm ready to put some of this shit on again.
Right.
Ready for the cozy.
Ready for the super-deme.
Christmas Thanksgiving is a fun day.
But like for me, it's, we're in the kitchen the whole fucking day.
Yeah.
So the kitchen is like, it's a lot of work.

(06:58):
It's a lot of work.
Because there's a lot of work.
That dinner is a lot of work.
So I hate, I don't, I'm not one that enjoys being in the kitchen.
Mm-hmm.
Like it's stressful and I'm exhausted and then when everybody eats,
I'm kind of like, get the fuck out.
Because I want to take my pants off and I want to take a nap.
You know what I mean?
Like so it's like, it's too much work for me to really enjoy.
Wait a minute.

(07:19):
It's for Thanksgiving.
You are the kitchen a lot.
However, your mom's in the kitchen.
Yelling at me.
I have to.
That's the only way I'm going to fucking survive it.
She's yelling, where's this?
What do you mean?
You're the busier Instagram.
Am I not keeping on the couch?
You look at me.
You stare in my face and you fucking tell me I'm not in that kitchen with that woman.
You are, but you'll make it care.
You'll be on the living room and have a little hideaway.
I need to fucking hide for a second.
And then I'll boss you around because I'm getting bossed around.

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That's all I'm trying to say is that the Christmas, the gift exchange part, isn't my favorite.
I think it's not your favorite because my family's assholes.

(10:45):
No, it's not that.
It would be the same with my family too.
It's like, what are you going to get me?
What are you going to get me?
What are you going to get me?
What are you going to get you?
I don't fucking know.
I know.
We've got to go find all this shit, wrap all this shit, open it, take it to the fuck back.
It's just like, listen to such a waste.
Can we just like go have it enjoy the breakfast part phenomenal?
Yeah.
Chill and watch the movie.

(11:06):
Love it.
Yeah, I like the Christmas day.
A little candy.
No, yeah, I like the presents.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It's not.
It's still better than like fucking president's day or Valentine's day.
It's better than all those.
I think the best idea I've ever had was to just put the money into a pot and then buy a single

(11:26):
gift that that person wants instead of that.
That's a good one.
I do that.
I felt like when we did that, everybody was super happy.
I want to do that, Sherex.
I want to steam deck.
Everybody wants to do that this year because we did it not last year but the year before where
it was like, okay, there's a, there's a, there's not really any kids next to us.
So it's all just siblings.

(11:46):
And so it's like, okay, if you're going to pay $35 for a gift, let's combine the $35 with
all of us and then you tell us what you want and we'll get you that really cool thing.
We don't get it till Christmas and we wrap it and make it feel fun.
But or will have you give us a list of things that you would want on your thing and we pick

(12:10):
one out that we want to get or whatever.
Yeah, because there's a $300 thing I want to buy that I don't want to spend that much
on myself.
Yeah, exactly.
$50, I'm going to fucking blow it.
I'm just going to get it.
You know?
$50?
I'm going to $50 gift.
I'll just get that for myself.
Oh, right.
There's something I want that's $50 that I don't have.
Yeah, but if you get like, but like a steam deck, it's like $3, $400.

(12:31):
It's like, I'm not spending that much.
What if I don't play that much?
Yeah.
Yeah, so that's, I feel like so then everybody bitched about it.
Why he two of them started bitching about it that they didn't like that because it wasn't
surprise because on the same hand, this is how fucking crazy my family is.
Like on one hand, they'll, they hate everything you buy them, but they want you to go buy them

(12:54):
something and they want it to be a surprise.
Is that insane?
We are lunatics.
So now, I think it's like the risk reward thing because like the reward there would be phenomenal
if you got the perfect gift.
Yeah, it's really fun.
But that doesn't happen at all.
But it's very hard.
So then they didn't want to do that.
So we went back to the old way last year.

(13:17):
We had tears on Christmas from crying tears.
Yeah, my niece had a meltdown because she started a fight about a pair of jeans.
And that's what happens sometimes.
Crazy.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
What's the point?
What are we doing here?
It's insane.

(13:38):
And for that reason, Christmas is clearly the worst of the big three.
It's only the worst because of my family.
No, I would argue it's the worst regardless.
What do you like about this?
Your family is great.
My family is great.
This is just one of them.
Nothing to do with it.
My family is lovely.
This is just one weird little fucking thing we fucking do and it gets so annoying.
So we're family.

(13:58):
We wouldn't have the fun get-togethers and the fun food and all that.
I love them.
This isn't me talking to people.
I love them.
This is lovely.
They're lovely.
I hate this part.
I hate that part too.
And the other two, I don't have a part that I hate Thanksgiving.
My number two.
Sometimes is my number one, but number two, I would say in general because there's not

(14:19):
like a ton of fun lead up.
No Thanksgiving lights or decorations, really.
My favorite part about Thanksgiving though is like after Thanksgiving, you can go look
at Christmas lights because then the lights are all on and then they have the parade.
They have like a parade over by us and fun to think.

(14:39):
Like just fun things to do.
Yeah, Thanksgiving is cool.
I like it.
I like the food.
You got leftovers.
It's kind of the holiday that it's like funer after almost sometimes.
You got the good football game.
You got the weather's still great.
The weather's still kicking.
You said something about my life.
You said something about my family that's absolutely true.
You get one of us to, one of us is really fun, but not as fun as two.

(15:03):
You get two of us, then we get fun, but it's a multiplier effect.
And the more family members that you start putting into the group, the higher chance that
you're going to have a fucking argument.
The critical number is four.
If you get four of you together, there's a fight happening.
We're having.
100% chance.
You pull that off.
Three is a good time.

(15:24):
Three we can do it.
Before, forget it.
Five, don't even bother.
You better smoke up before everyone gets there, get through.
And that takes us to Halloween.
Number one, it's the best.
It's simply the best for all the reasons, particular to me because I love horror movies,
right?
I love being scared.

(15:46):
And it's the most nostalgia packed.
Do you like haunted houses?
Did you talk to the best haunted houses?
The haunted houses are the best.
Are we doing a haunted house this year?
I mean, I don't know why we're so fucking busy all the time.
I know.
I don't know where we're going to get in.
Let's see what tonight.
If we wanted to go do a haunted house, we could put on clothes and leave the house.
I don't know.

(16:06):
Maybe.
I don't know.
Maybe.
I mean, Halloween's just the best for all those things.
The whole month is exciting.
The Halloween day.
Good not great.
I got a mind.
I like seeing the kids with the candy shit.
Yeah.
That's fine.
I'm very excited about our Halloween stuff this year, though.

(16:26):
We did all the yard stuff.
The yard looks all cute.
And I'm excited about the light up rings.
I think the kids are going to freaking love the little light up rings in this and this
soda.
Out here in suburban hell.
Yes.
That's right.
Well, we got to entice these kids to not go to trunk or treats in the mall.
Like, can we have normal life back a little bit where people are, is that being so fucking

(16:49):
afraid of your neighbors?
Can we please stop?
This is so embarrassing at this point.
Like, good God.
You think your neighbor is going to put a razor blade in a piece of toffee?
Like, do you know how much work that takes?
I think that, you know, parents love when we tell them what to do because we don't have
kids.
But what they need to do is just sometimes you got to let the, look, your kids got a

(17:12):
cell phone.
If something bad's happening, they could probably get a hold of you.
You've got to roll the dice.
They'll get torn on the way.
It's for sure worse that way, but they're going to get a salted or something, right?
They're going to get a salted or something, right?
They're going to be peeled by Andrew Tate's going to be in there here.
Exactly.
But back in the day, you know, you used to just, that was the time you got away from your

(17:34):
parents.
You just were kids like being on their parents now.
It's weird.
It is weird.
I'll never understand it.
I'll never understand it.
It was a time where you're like, good, get the fuck away from me.
I never wanted to be out.
I never wanted to be out.
I never wanted to be out.
After dark.
Yes.
I don't know.
You can do that now, look.
They'll fucking shoot you.
Well, I'll shoot them as they throw toilet paper over my house.

(17:55):
No, I will get them on camera, though.
I wouldn't shoot them on camera that much, but I will get them on camera and I will find them
and make them clean them.
Do you have pumpkin smash?
No, I was in a piece of shit like you were.
So that's fun.
I remember just laughing.
I do our ball ditched.
The most I did was do our ball ditched.
Yeah, I do our ball ditched.
It was so fucking fun.

(18:16):
It's the funnest.
Doorball ditching is the funnest.
And now nobody can do that.
Yeah.
Everything great has been taken away from kids.
Plenal external.
We used to cruise the Vard.
That was fucking great.
That's gone.
We used to cruise State Street.
That's no, you can't do that anymore.
We used to do our ball ditch.
You can't do that.
You can't even get kids outside to go play night games.

(18:38):
I wanted to play night games with a bunch of kids.
I was trying to get a bunch of kids together.
For the last fucking ten years, all of my friends have kids.
I'm like, let's go play night games.
No.
Why?
Why don't they want to do something?
Yeah, I said a flag.
Yes, I want to go to a park and I want to play.
I know.
They're just so boring.
No, I don't have a kid.

(18:58):
So if they're not bullying each other online or looking at porn where they're like furries
fucking each other, they don't want to do it.
I don't advocate for smashing pumpkins.
But don't you think if you woke up on November 1st and the pumpkins that we bought and put
on our front porch, you know, five of them are smashed out in the road or the driveway.

(19:23):
You would be a little, you would chuckle a little bit.
No, I wouldn't.
You could use fucking assholes.
You're not holding me back.
If I have to clean anything up, I would lose my guy talent.
It's fun.
It was fun.
If they do it in the grass where it'll just like decomposer and I just have to pick the
chunks up and I wouldn't care.
But like if I have to clean one fucking thing up from your dumb fucking kid, I will want

(19:44):
to choke sland.
I just think there's more awful shit they could do like vandalize your property, vandalize
your decorations.
I'm gonna smash pumpkins out of that.
Throw that pumpkin in the garbage anyway.
Yeah.
You might as well throw it up in the air and have a good time.
No, it's so fun.
Why are boys so destructive?
It's so hard doing that shit.

(20:04):
Why?
It's awful, isn't it?
It's the worst.
Sometimes it feels good to be bad.
And it's like kind of a fun way of being bad.
It's not too bad.
You know, I agree.
It's like that comedian called me a Fisher Price drug dealer.
That's me.
You know what I mean?
I saw it talking to Jimmy the jackhammer the other day I was like, we're watch, we're
watch the devil's rejects in the theater and they do coke, right?

(20:26):
And I'm like, you know, I've done coke, man, it looks so fun.
He's like, no, I never did.
And he was in the same boat.
I am like, we experimented with a lot of shit and we both had the opportunity to do such
things when we were teenagers.
Are you kidding?
But we both said no.
Why did we both say no?
Because you're a fucking...
You're not that bad of bad boys.
You are not a bad boy.
We're like Fisher Price drug dealers.

(20:47):
Yeah.
You are not a bad boy.
What drugs did you do?
I will not self-incriminate.
Why?
Because I don't want to.
Okay.
I did not do heroin or coke or crack.
I did gas station drugs.
I was a prime or a dangerous.

(21:10):
Like a real piece of white trash.
I went and got many things if anybody remembers those.
Many things with my girlfriends and we would lay there and we'd be like, our hair feels like
it's fucking growing.
No.
And we go to like...
That was a speed then, huh?
I don't know, probably.
So we would just take that in.
We would go to graveyards.

(21:30):
Yeah.
See, that's fun.
Oh, that's just funny.
And when you're a kid, you got to get that out of your sister.
And I would smoke prime times.
Yes.
The best.
Yes.
We would smoke.
You got to be bad when you're a kid.
You got to get it out of your sister.
You do.
It's fast.
So these kids are hanging out with their parents and the parents think they're doing them
a solid.
Like you are not.
They're going to be 25 and be like, I think I'm going to go to a fucking glory hole and

(21:54):
do a lot of coke on someone's dick now.
Like that's what they're going to do.
Yeah.
That would require them to leave their basement.
I don't think they're going to do that.
Well anyway, let's...
I got some fun.
Top 10.
You know, I love a top 10 countdown.
It's your favorite.
More than life itself.
Yes.
Dare I say.
And we've been doing this for years.
I think the second, third episode we ever did was a top 10, 80s movies.

(22:16):
Oh.
Remember that?
I barely...
I can't believe we've been doing this for this long.
I've been dragging you.
But you're getting great at it now.
At the beginning, I could tell you we're a little bit like, I don't know about this.
I just know that people aren't going to...
I'm a love it or leave it.
I'm a love it or list it kind of gal.
I just...
I had to build up my skin to have people list it.
Well, people are coming around.

(22:37):
You know, when I first introduced you to my audience, they weren't the biggest fans.
And they're coming around.
I've seen red dots.
How in the comments are like, you know what?
I thought your wife was really annoying.
I get that one all the time.
I get that all the time.
And then they'll be like, but like, I'm coming around to it now.
Okay, good.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.

(22:58):
So...
Listen, there's nothing that these fucking people can't say that my siblings have not
said to me in an pivotal point of my life.
I got told when I was a kid, nonstop, you're such a little bitch.
You're so fucking annoying from the people I just wanted to hang out with.
Sad.
So...
It's fucking...

(23:19):
Well, you got a big audience now that I want to hang out with you.
So jokes on them.
Jokes on you.
I'm fucking cool.
You are cool.
Okay, go.
And today's episode...
What inspired me to do this?
Because we've done a handful of top countdowns over the years.
Back in my blogging days around 2011, I did a top countdown of like video games and shit

(23:40):
like just shit like that, right?
But I am lifting this idea straight from my favorite podcast, Super Retro, which I want
to give a shout out to.
If people like this nostalgia shit talking, go to Super Retro, check them out.
Because I'm stealing their shit.
And I'm going to keep stealing their shit until they let me do a show with them.
I hit them out.
I say, let's do a show.

(24:01):
And because I love them so much.
I mean, listen, I'm for years now for 2023 when they launched.
And I think they're spooked because they're like, I'm sure, because their whole stick is
they're like, we're not talking politics ever on this show ever, ever, ever.
The show is about fun, the style, and that's all we do.
And I respect that.
Because I watch it because I need to break from all this other shit, conspiracy and politics

(24:25):
and news.
I need a break too.
So as I consume their content, I'm like, these guys are fucking great.
That's genius.
Yeah.
For me, and you unfortunately, we can't shut the fuck up about politics and news because
that's kind of like in the realm of conspiracy talk.
Unfortunately, it's becoming my personality.
So we don't want that.
Well, I don't fucking want that either.

(24:47):
But the whole goddamn world's on fire.
So sorry.
So I am.
So yeah, and I hit them up and I feel like they're probably like, dude, we're not fucking
no conspiracy guy, but they've been very kind to me.
We're playing here and there, but they do.
But they go to me and I was like, bro, I need you guys.
I'm gonna come do my show.
I'll cross promote you.
We'll get you fucking some numbers, bro.
Let's go.

(25:07):
And like crickets and all that.
I find.
So yeah, go to Super Retro.
Check them out.
Tell them to hook up with your boy Isaac because I think it'd be a great time.
And you're good at not talking politics.
You can't be easy.
I don't want to talk about this shit either here.
Yeah.
I just want to have a good time.
A conspiracy used to be a good time.
And I'm trying to make it a good time still.

(25:27):
Yeah.
So I do my best.
But yeah, Super Retro did a great Halloween show.
They counted out the candies.
I said, bro, I'll make them own fucking candy.
Top 10.
So I'm gonna keep stealing their shit.
Okay, so we do my show.
So what are we doing, candy?
We're gonna start with candy.
I think that's fun.
I don't think Halloween has the best candy.

(25:48):
How dare you?
It doesn't.
We're talking about the best candy.
The best seasonal candy is not.
It blows Halloween out of the water, not even close.
It is Easter.
Easter has the best candy by far.
Not even a fucking, not in the same realm.

(26:12):
I'd have to think about that.
But this is a problem.
Here's a problem.
Okay.
Now Easter candy has become all the time candy because everybody loves Easter candy.
Because of America, we be fat.
And the bad news is bad news bears is that now we don't get to want anything anymore.

(26:35):
Everything's just at our fingertips.
But before you could only get those fucking Cadbury eggs at Easter.
You could only get the Reese's chocolate the egg.
You are, it's so much.
I can't think when you're a fucking tiny dancing around the fucking studio.

(26:57):
Don't see me sweating profusely.
No, I don't.
It's so hot here.
Put a fucking t-shirt on to stop up your sweaty pits.
Just go ahead.
Easter, Cadbury go.
God.
I turn a fan on, but I can see the fan is putting some noise on the audio.
I'm like, okay, let me turn the fan down.
It's too much.
What?
It has a remote.

(27:17):
It's the remote attached to the wall.
Oh, Lord, get the fucking remote off the wall.
Anyways, what was I saying?
Your talking about Cadbury eggs were only available at Easter.
No, Cadbury.
And then they've been around.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Cadbury, the Milky Eggs, not a fucking gross Cadbury egg.
The Mini Eggs.
The Mini Eggs.
Yeah.

(27:38):
Those are delicious.
And the Reese's peanut butter egg.
Delicious.
You can't beat those.
Do you have a top 10 candies?
Because I've got, look, and all this shit is going to be my list of top 10.
You're going to tell me you were, I didn't realize I should be looking at Halloween candies,
but you go in all particulars.
Okay.
All right.
My bad.
We had also planned to make this show more planning beforehand and I failed you.

(28:03):
That's okay.
Because I told you we were doing the top 10 count on a candy.
Is that thought?
Did I?
Yeah, but I realized you can't make a list.
All right.
I'm going to give you my list and you can tell me where I'm right.
I'll tell you where you're wrong.
That's your good role anyway.
Yeah.
Let's start with number 10.

(28:23):
And these are my favorite.
We're going to go through my favorite top 10.
As a child or as an adult?
Both.
It hasn't changed.
Mine has changed.
Has it?
Yeah.
Because I used to, as a kid, top tier, you couldn't fucking beat a giant wax lips.
I would chew those weird ass fucks.

(28:43):
That's the most insane thing I think I've ever heard.
I know.
Well, now I want you to make a top 10.
I loved it, but I want to eat them now.
They taste like shit.
Yeah, because as a kid, those little drinky things in the wax are fun too.
I fucking loved them.
They were fun.
The little waxy drink things were bomb and the, what were they called?

(29:04):
Buttons.
Do you remember buttons?
Mm-hmm.
I love them.
Yeah, and you ate half fucking paper.
They're disgusting.
They're always stuck to the paper.
So as a child, they used to get them a Wilvers chocolate factory and let it's
PA.
They were fun.
Those were funner candies, but now it's like, you can't.
Hello.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay.
All right.
I mean, that's fair.

(29:25):
These are just my, I got my favorite top 10 and then my worst top 10.
Okay, good.
Number 10, I'm putting down raisinets as my tenth favorite candy.
A little box and I'm talking about raisins.
You know it's better than a raisinet though.
The Kirkland brand raisinet.
True.
The raisinets that you get from Costco are phenomenal, delicious.

(29:47):
I love a raisin, a chocolate covered raisin.
I didn't like them until I met you because you started fucking when I'm raisinets and I was
like, ew.
Like old people eat.
Yeah.
And then I was like, okay, this is.
They're fucking good.
The perfect combination.
Yes, I love them.
Okay, good.
Go.
10.
They were, I got, I got a little bit of fun facts here in there for the candies because

(30:08):
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Blum and Salchak, let's drop these raisinets back in 1927, which is fucking amazing.
They're around 100 years later.
I mean, isn't that a run?
That is a run.
A run of legendary status.
Number nine, the nerds gummy clusters.

(30:53):
Oh, those are delicious, but those are new.
So you, they're not a, they're not a nostalgic.
They are not.
The nostalgia score is a zero.
Zero and nostalgia.
So I love the texture of that is like, I for me, candy is all texture.
So I like the gummies.

(31:16):
I like the nerds in with the gummy like that texture.
I love crunching sugar in my teeth.
It is my favorite fucking thing that that sandy fill.
So you can't beat.
I wish I could just buy these.
The fun dip sticks, only the sticks.
I don't give a shit.

(31:38):
The little powder is fine is fine, but really I'm in it for the stick.
Like I think that if I was weird enough, I would eat chalk because I love that texture.
I don't blame me on that.
I love feeling it just like sinking my teeth into it.
Oh, feels right.
Now those, did you like nerds?

(31:59):
I love nerds.
I love nerds as a kid.
Give me the fucking, what was your favorite?
Purple and red box.
Purple and red.
Purple and pink.
Purple and pink.
I'll do a little purple, little pink and then a little balls.
I used to, I was a maniac and I would pull the center thing out.
Or I would.
You're an agent of chaos.
I'm a chaos agent.
I would open both sides and dump them both in.
You're the literal Joker.
You're the sugar Joker with your wax lips, taking out the centerpiece in the nerds box.

(32:24):
I fucking, I loved it.
I'm called the police right now.
And when I would get slurpees, I'd do the whole fucking line.
A little of everything.
A little of everything.
A little of everything tastes like nothing now.
Nope.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
But I used to like that when I was a kid, I loved those nerds, but I as an adult have

(32:45):
never bought nerds.
But as a kid, I loved them.
What was up with that?
I always go for the, when you have like little candy dishes around Halloween, I'll go
for the nerds and the candy dish.
Okay, a little tiny box.
I like a little box, a fun size.
Now what's tragic is that those old nerds were a failing dying product.

(33:08):
And then Ferrara from the, you know, the Ferrajaka chocolates.
No, I don't know.
Yeah, Ferrara, they bought out the nerds fucking brand.
What about you?
Oh, the little, the gold balls.
Yeah.
Yeah, yes.
Okay.
And they had scientists go into the lab and they figured out nerd gum.
They had me clusters, dropped them in 2020, sneaking out of the radar because, you know,

(33:34):
COVID, right?
And then 2021 Kylie Jenner posted them on her Instagram or whatever and they blew up and
they never, never looked back.
How embarrassing.
I mean, you know, I still love them, but that makes me feel weird.
Yeah, interesting story.
But boy, I'm telling you, that's the, that's the, that's the hot candy.
That's going to be around in the year 21, 20, you know what I mean?

(33:56):
Like the raisinettes.
Yeah, I like it.
Number eight, and I got some, I got some conversion.
What do you like about it?
If you wouldn't go for a box of nerds, why would you, why do you choose it with the gummy?
Oh, man, because the gummy, it's like, I think it's a great thing together.
I feel like it's the ease of eating it too.
So like you get the right amount of nerds.
Yeah, nerds, the candy is too hard to eat.

(34:17):
Yeah, it's not the fun of seeing.
It's not the fun of seeing.
Yeah.
And I, and I like, again, sinking my teeth into the gummy part of it.
Like I like the texture.
Why you're cracking.
Well, I'm cracking that nerd and my teeth.
A lot of that's great.
I know, that's good.
Number eight, hot take here, scores.

(34:37):
I fucking love a score, dude.
I love a score.
I know you do.
You're the one who introduced me too.
I had never heard of them.
She don't taste of them until I met you.
And you were, you got these scores.
I was like, what the fuck is this?
That you got to be in a place to eat a score.
A score is not on the run candy bar.
Because you're going to be digging it.
And it'll make them in like Halloween mini styles either.
No, there's no minis.

(34:59):
Because you're going to be digging it out.
They definitely get stuck in your teeth, but that fucking toffee man.
So good.
So good.
Yeah, chocolate, buttery toffee.
And chocolate on there is a really good chocolate.
Like it's not waxy at all.
It's a, it's a yummy chocolate.
Yeah, these were, I thought these might be old people candy or something.
They were only made in 1981, Hershey started making these.

(35:23):
And what I read online is that it's the same thing as a heath bar.
It's just thinner.
Okay.
I can see that.
No, I don't know that.
I've never had a heath.
Have you had a heath bar?
Yeah, I've had a heath.
I've never had one.
I agree.
I like that it's thinner.
I didn't realize that that was the difference, but I prefer 100% proportion matters.

(35:44):
Like if you get, that's why I like, like peanut butter to chocolate ratios.
Once you get into those really mini ones, the ratio goes off and you don't get as much peanut
butter to chocolate.
It's too much chocolate.
You know what I'm talking about?
The, the foil.
The Reese's peanut butter cups.
The cup, but the little ones.

(36:05):
Yeah, what, how are you different?
You're between the, the little minis and the two pack ones.
I don't know, but they're not good.
Yeah, I agree.
For some reason that hard ridge around the mini, I'm like, oh, get the fuck out of here.
I hate it.
Go fuck yourself.
That's why the Reese's peanut butter egg is superior because that chocolate is smooth.
It's so smooth.

(36:25):
Yeah.
Rounded.
What that round, baby?
It just feels right in your mouth.
Now another hot take for me.
Number seven, Carmelo.
Oh, you're wrong.
I knew.
I knew I could have.
Why though?
It's so good.
What's a Carmelo?
Is that a, a roll-o?

(36:45):
It's the, no, it's the one that comes in, it comes in a bar and it's got maybe out of six
squares.
Oh, it's a squares.
It's got squares.
Okay, though, those are okay.
Yeah.
The Carmelo is good, but those are hard to find.
They're so hard to find out.
Yeah, you know, I have to look it up.
I was like, are these gone?
I haven't seen one.
I mean, I don't look for one either.
Carmelo's are good.
Rollos are shit.
I'm not a roll-o person.
I don't love the roll-o either.

(37:06):
I'm okay.
I'm okay.
I'm not a Carmelo over a roll-o any day.
How do you get this much caramel in there, baby?
And the caramel's good.
Yeah.
And it's looser, I think, than the, than the roll-o.
The roll-o feels like it's a little bit, the texture of that caramel is a little bit like
firmer.
And I feel like when you bite into a Carmelo, you fucking get jizzy strings on your chin.

(37:32):
Oh, that's a fucking messy.
So you got to pop the whole thing.
The Carmelo is the only thing that the commercial ad when it shows you the string of caramel, you're
getting it.
Yes, I agree.
Every other fucking pizza slice, everything you've ever seen is all bullshit.
The Carmelo, they're not lying.
They're not lying.
Like you're gonna fucking ooey gooey all over your stupid chin.

(37:53):
So get fucking ready.
You nasty bitch.
Good at it, control.
Okay, number six.
I would argue this is another hot takes specific to me.
Fucking Milky Ways.
Oh, oh, oh, my God.
You're a killer.
You're a serial killer.
That's fucking disgusting.

(38:14):
I think this is one of the most underrated candy bars of all time.
Disgusting.
I fucking love them.
You do?
Well, that's good because if we ever get the caramel, come on.
Add a nut.
I need a nut.
Add a nut.
Yeah, I gotta add some nuts.
Well, one thing you're gonna be sad about is Snickers isn't in my top 10.
You're insane.
That's virtually the difference between a Milky Way and a Snickers, the nuts.

(38:35):
My favorite on the Snickers is I don't prefer a whole Snickers bar, but I love a fun size.
A fun size Snickers.
Fucking bomb.
Get that fucking sweet dick vein on there.
Yes, I love it.
Yeah, but if you don't have the full bar, you can't like lick the vein.
You need a vein.
You get a vein.
Oh, you get a vein.

(38:55):
You get a vein.
So Mars created Milky Ways in 1923.
Again, another legendary 100 plus year run.
Crazy.
I'm not gonna get a vein.
And outside of America, apparently they call these Mars bars.
Oh, okay.
And contrary to popular belief, it's not named after the Milky Way galaxy.

(39:17):
It was named after the 1920s, a malted milkshake that was called the Milky Way, I guess.
Okay.
Anyway, but no, I fucks it.
If there's a bowl of those little chocolate fun sizes, I'm looking for the Milky Way,
because it's slept on.
One skips right past it.
To be fair, why?
I'll fish out the almond joys.

(39:40):
Yeah.
And I think that those are string, I don't think people like those, but I love a fucking almond
joy.
I'm riding down here.
Right now, I'm gonna make your top 10 while we're doing this.
Okay, good.
I like an almond joy.
But only fun size.
Again, I will never pick up a full size candy bar.
Why is that?
It's like too many calories.
What is that?
Honestly, I don't know what it is, but it doesn't feel right.

(40:03):
I like to have the single serving sizes.
But the problem is, it is a halo effect because the problem is, it's like, seriously, two
of them is the size of a full size.
Seriously, I could eat five, six fun sizes.
And it's tricky.
Yes, it's a fucking tricky.
You would never sit there and eat two full size candy bars ever in your life.
Or two size.
Can you imagine deep-throding a king-sized Snickers bar?

(40:24):
Why do you all eat that vein?
That vein?
They're extra thick.
It's like eating.
It's like that $1.50 at the Costco.
No.
You look in the eye of like your nose watching while you're down in that glizzied.
I can do a Costco's $1.50.
Sam's Club is obscene.

(40:45):
Sam's Club is the size of a penis.
I'm not fucking joking.
They need to put a black box over the head.
It's humiliating.
I have to take side bites of it.
And I'm like, this is fucking insane.
Your corn cob and the Sam's Club?
Why mouth?
Why died?
Choked down a fucking bite of a Sam's Club hot dog in public.

(41:07):
A little tear.
Yes, that is embarrassing.
They need to put that in the eye picture.
I absolutely will.
Do you all see with a tear coming down your eye?
Why died?
I can't.
I'm thinking about Sam's $1.50.
I could do a big stick popsicle, but it is the same thing where it's a little.
It's too much work.
It's a lot of work.
A frozen banana.

(41:27):
Have you ever had a frozen banana?
No.
I'd want one.
I'll never eat one.
Because like that hard chocolate is going to flake all over.
You're going to get chocolate on your tits.
100% you're getting chocolate on your tits.
And then you're going to have to like have men watch you eat a fucking frozen banana.
I'm not doing it.
No.
Well, I'm going to be lurking at Sam's Club dining hall or whatever you call it.

(41:51):
Take a look at the size of the Sam's Club hot dog.
You will be offended.
You'll be offended if I walked up to you and as a stranger said, "Mam, can I buy you a
Sam's Club hot dog and watch you eat it?"
Well, depends on how much you pay me.
They just have really great soft pretzels at the Sam's Club.
What do you call it?

(42:12):
Caffe or whatever.
Anyway.
Okay.
Number five, perfectly placed is take five.
Take five's your bomb.
Take five's your bomb.
Again, another slept on candy.
Yes.
Take five is delicious.
Criminally slept on.
Yes.
It's delicious.
Hershey dropped these in 2004.
They're not even around that long.

(42:32):
Five simple ingredients.
Chocolate, caramel, peanuts, peanut buffers and pretzels.
What is there not to love about that?
It's delicious.
It almost sounds like it's too much shit.
You know what I mean?
If you were telling me that, it's too complex.
It's too much.
You're putting too much shit on this.
Yeah.
You might be right with that.

(42:52):
But when you eat it, it's a fucking treat.
They've mastered it.
They've mastered it out correctly.
Yeah.
It's the right amount.
That's my Utah.
Major.
Major.
People in Utah, you got a major, I can't even do it.
Do I say that?
Major?
No, that's like a guy thing.
Oh, okay.
I noticed it when I was working maintenance.
Oh, okay.

(43:13):
A lot of guys, you got to measure it.
I'm like, what the fuck?
You amish.
What is this?
Number four, red hot take here.
Candy corn.
Very divisive, candy.
I don't know why.
I do enjoy a candy corn.
I'm not going to lie, but not the typical candy corn.

(43:36):
I like the caramel candy corn.
Oh, you need that special.
The special candy corn.
Like the regular candy corn is like, it's okay, but it's not like my favorite.
I'll take you one.
I'm not going to turn my nose up to it.
I don't make a fucking face when it comes to it, but I'm going to.
I can make my list right now with you.
My hot take, fucking, what are they called?

(43:57):
Circus peanuts.
They're good.
I love a circus peanut.
Again, texture.
It's weird.
It's got a weird banana flavor.
Fucking weird.
It's like orange.
It looks like a banana.
Orange.
It tastes like a banana.
Banana.
And then that weird hard marshmallow.
Yeah.
I love that texture.
I like marshmallow.
And I don't have that on here because A, it's not in the top 10 and B. It's not really

(44:22):
a Halloween candy.
It never really crossed over like that.
Whereas candy corn is very specifically Halloween.
That's Halloween.
Yeah.
You're not getting that for Easter.
No, I agree.
It's remained tried and true for Halloween only.
Agreed.
So that should be a number one.
Honestly, kind of Halloween candy.
Kind of the legend of Halloween.

(44:42):
Okay.
People hate it.
I think people love to hate it.
But listen to this.
I got some fun facts.
They bust out seven billion pieces of candy corn a year.
And it's really only consumed for this month.
So all the people that turn their noses up on it be like, well, then who the fuck do you think

(45:03):
is buying seven billion pieces of candy corn in one month?
It's only me and you.
We're the only ones watching corn and we're the only ones eating candy corn.
Corn and candy corn all concerned.
And candy corn is like for the haters, I'll give them this.
It is one of those things that if you eat too many pieces of it, you regret it immediately.

(45:24):
Agreed.
I guess like too much sugar.
You're like, that's it.
Agreed.
Which is nice if you're on a diet because it hits and then you can kind of be done.
Yeah.
Literally just grab 10 pieces and you're like, okay, sweet tooth fulfilled.
Yes.
Diabetes check.
Now, it has three beautiful sections of fun.
You've got honey, sugar strawberry and vanilla.

(45:48):
Oh, you guys hate those flavors really?
Wait, vanilla and what?
Honey and sugar strawberry.
Sugar strawberry.
That's what it says.
What the fuck are you talking about?
That's what it said.
I thought you said, but I wasn't sure if I heard.
I know.
And you've eaten them one little section at a time.

(46:08):
Never.
You're insane.
Are all three sections different flavors?
A chaos person using, I'm biting the different layers of a candy corn.
No, handfuls.
I eat candy corn.
Like I eat popcorn.
Like I don't think that there's a giant bowl in front of me is on my tits.

(46:30):
It's I'm shoving handfuls of it in like a maniac.
I don't know why I do it is so embarrassing.
I think everyone eats popcorn that way.
So humiliating.
Yes.
So next time we try candy corn.
What about a bit of honey?
Do you like a bit of honey?
No, I hate this.
I thought you love a bit of honey.
Oh, you are.
This is a wild list.
You're building a bit of honey.

(46:50):
I love a bit of honey.
All right.
We'll come back to all this.
Because it gets warm in your mouth.
Oh my god.
Yeah, it's too much for me.
It's like it's like a Swedish fish.
Like it's just too much drama.
I hate Swedish fish.
Too much drama.
The fish is too much drama.
That's like that's who it's this shit.
It's too much.
I hate a Swedish fish.
But can they love them?

(47:12):
People love them.
They do.
It's the weirdest one.
Uh-huh.
Like how are we shitting on candy corn but letting Swedish fish get a pass?
Yeah.
Are you crazy?
Or those same thing that they'll hate about one candy like a bit of honey because it gets
or you know what else is an offender of this?

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Butterfingers.
Butterfingers, they get in your teeth.
Yeah, they do.
Butterfinger is a-
They kick up in there.
That's a real, you got to have clean fengies because you're going to have to go in there and
start scraping some shit out.
So-
You heard it here first.
Now candy corn invented in the 1880s making it the fucking champ.

(47:56):
The fucking champ.
No one's coming close to 1880.
Jake Neckos.
Neckowafers?
Uh-huh.
They're fine.
Those are odd.
I don't write that in my list.
Oh, okay.
I'm going to throw all these back out.
We're like, okay, where are you putting these?
I'm not ranking it.
I don't love Neckos.
Okay.
They're a little too crunchy for my taste.

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Yeah, especially beautiful.
Not enough give.
Yeah.
I like a little give.
And there's- it's too crunch.
Too much crunch.
It's like watching those videos of machines pressing and breaking things.
I do like the look of them.
I like the idea of them.
Yeah.
But if they're too old, they're too crunchy.
Yeah.
We know those pressing videos you see where they smash things.

(48:39):
Some things are really satisfying because they kind of fucking ooze up.
Yeah.
But then it's like a fucking golf ball to shatters like, ew.
No, no, no, no, not that.
That's where the last like if they do a glass bowl or something like that, it's not satisfying.
No.
But in 1880s, they started making these things.
They called them chicken feet originally.

(49:00):
Okay.
Then golet's confectionary started making them in 1898.
Then later bought by Jelly Belly.
Then later bought by Brock's.
I don't know how you pronounce that.
Brock's or Breaks or whatever.
And they're the ones that- they're the ones running it now.
You know?
I feel like they- don't they have like the Carmel Apple ones?

(49:22):
Like Brock's?
Yeah, they have all the like shit candies.
I like- no, no, no, no.
The Carmel Apple candy corns.
Yeah.
Those are my favorite.
I like the pumpkins.
The pumpkins are like hardcore.
I think they're called-
It's like a hardcore candy corn.
The autumn blend.
Yeah.
The ones that have the pumpkins.
I don't love the pumpkin.
How do you- because you can just- you teeth just sink into that motherfucker.
And I get that, but-

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It's a little too much sugar.
It's a little too much for me.
October 30th is National Candy Day.
Candy Corn Day, excuse me.
Oh, lovely.
Just so you know.
Well, let's mark it on the calendar.
We'll have a special-
And- and-
And-
The glaze on a candy corn is made by the
The glaze on a candy corn.
It's made from black, which is a bug secretion.
Oh, lovely.

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So there's that.
Another reason for the haters to hate.
All right.
We're at top three now.
These are all legendary picks.
Okay.
I would argue that everyone will agree with me on these.
Let's go.
It's someplace.
Number three, Reese's Pieces.
You can't beat 'em.
They're so good.
Oh, it pieces.
Pieces.
Wait a minute.
The little, skittle sized ones.

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Yeah.
I never want them, but when you get them, I enjoy them.
Oh, I fucks with these hard.
Yeah, you love 'em.
Now, this is "Pickness Out" a particular to me and argue with you.
Okay.
They dropped in 1978.
Blue up with the movie ET in 1982.
Yeah.
Right?
Which, by the way, great core memory of mine.

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I'm taking to the grave.
I don't know why.
Great COVID core memory of mine.
What?
When-
Remember when we went to the Drive-In Theater and watched ET and Shrek?
Yeah, it was really nice.
I was like, "That's such a great memory for me."
It was lovely.
It was like the small taste of normalcy kind of-
Yes, in the middle of really scary.
Yeah, but man, that was a great memory.
Yeah.

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And I was the first time I'd ever seen ET.
Oh.
Shocking, right?
Yeah.
I never, I wasn't really a watch a movie type of kid.
I was really into cartoons.
So I didn't love watching movies so much.
So I stopped parts of ET, but I would-
I think parts of it here and there.
But obviously everywhere in the 80s, but we never saw it.

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So, 'cause you know, that wasn't my dad's style.
But, yeah, Hershey had created what they called Hershey Etz that were kind of like the same thing.
But they discontinued it.
It was the same thing, but there wasn't any peanut bubbles.
And then later, they discontinued it and they were like, "Hey, let's stuff some peanut

(51:54):
bubbles in them bitches."
And we'll call them Reese's Pieces.
So what was in them?
It was just like a basically an M&M, I think.
So it's just a different M&M?
Kind of, yeah.
Doesn't Hershey's make M&Ms?
No, Mars does.
Oh, okay.
And they-
Do you like an M&M?

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We'll talk about that soon.
Excellent.
And what-
And what's interesting is that Hershey Etz has the name ET right in there.
Etz, ET.
Oh.
Hershey Etz.
And M&Ms were offered the product placement in ET, but they were like, "No, we don't need you guys."
So Reese's Pieces was like, "We'll do it."

(52:38):
Let's do it.
Oh, that's funny.
And Bammace or Rap, they became fucking- they blew up.
Rightfully so.
That's crazy.
But I agree with you like, I mean does it have the same impact as some of these other ones?
Maybe not, but I love it.
And I think part of this is the nostalgia of the 80s.
Okay.
So that's where-
It does feel very 80s.
It does.

(52:59):
Yeah.
So that takes this number two, which I would say are peanut M&Ms.
The best.
I mean, I love a fucking peanut M&M.
Which takes me to what- you just asked me about the- do I like M&Ms?
Fuck no, I hate playing M&Ms.
Who eats them?
This is what's gonna shock you.
Okay, if you look it up, there was a survey I found somewhere.

(53:23):
And playing M&Ms are the most popular M&M in America.
That makes you want to throw up.
Isn't that just go-
That makes me hate this country.
This is the amount of everything else.
It might be the weirdest thing I've ever read.
You know what I hate the most?
More than just a regular peanut M&M.
A regular M&M in a stupid candy cane.

(53:44):
Oh, that's right.
It makes me angry.
I don't know why it gets under my skin so bad, but it fucking makes me angry.
So there's many.
Oh, no, they put regular sizes in the candy canes.
I don't know why they hurt me so fucking bad.
But I'm like, it just is like- it's the example of like something you probably wouldn't have

(54:06):
bought that you bought to put into a stupid fucking sock to fill it up.
That is like a mediocre candy in my opinion.
A mediocre to low end.
Not a good candy.
And now that big dumb plastic thing either goes in your asshole or it goes in the fill.
So it makes me mad.

(54:27):
In your asshole with that $1.50.
Put the plastic candy in your ass and though $1.50 in your mouth shut the fuck up.
It just is like that goes straight to the landfill.
Who gives a shit?
And then I'll pinch your nose and you're going to be airtight.

(54:48):
Can you go float?
Now, the peanut M&Ms, they dropped in 1954 and originally the only color they offered was
tan.
Oh, then in the peanut M&Ms?
Yeah.
I don't know.
In the 1960s they added the colors, you know, yellow, red, green and so on.

(55:10):
But yeah, uh, the most popular peanut M&Ms the second most.
I hate when they try to not make the female M&M not fuckable.
Because goddamn it.
I want my peanut M&M to be fuckable.
Well, that's what I want.
We're not going political here.
But that's the Republicans I want to argue with.

(55:34):
You know what I mean?
I don't want these new scary Republicans.
I want to like fucking take right away.
I don't want to call what they fucking are.
The Nazi factions.
The facts are the ones that were upset about unsexy, unfuckable M&Ms.
That's the ones I want.
Because it's like we could have discussions.
Like, okay, there's room to argue here.
I like that.
I like an argument.
Now, fun fact.
Can you make me hate them?

(55:55):
No.
We just is like, ooh, I disagree with you.
I don't want to fuck the M&Ms.
You know?
Now, fun fact.
When I was, when I got out of basic training in the military, my parents came to visit me.
And I don't know when or how or what.
But I got a bag of crisp M&Ms.

(56:19):
Remember crisp M&Ms?
Yeah, they were shit.
They were only there a couple years.
They sucked.
But I hadn't had anything that tasted good for seven weeks at this point.
Uh-huh.
Because like, and here's the thing.
Some people, and I was an Air Force basic training, which, you know, not quite as tough as some of the other branches.
But, um, in, I was a dorm chief, and I had the worst.

(56:40):
Our flight had, for some reason, I got in this weird experimental squadron where they fucked with us.
And then I had to get the worst of it because I was the leader.
Uh-huh.
And so I literally would eat.
That's like your whole life.
Why?
Why is this happening to me?
I don't know why.
It was the strangest thing because we would do KP, which is like, uh, it's like kitchen duty, for other squadrons.

(57:01):
And like, I would look around and be like, these people are like talking and laughing and eating fucking ice cream and coming up for seconds.
We didn't do none of that shit ever, never, never, never.
It wasn't like that ever for any day of our basic training.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
We was literally.
I had to get everyone seated and then I would fucking suck down as many scrambled eggs as I could eat, chug a glass of water, and then I'd get up like I had

(57:27):
20 seconds.
I don't know what it was to eat.
And anyway, my point is, is like, it was miserable for me.
I didn't eat fucking anything good for two months, right?
Uh-huh.
My parents come to visit me and somehow I got a bag of these crisp M&Ms, a couple bags or something or a big bag or something.
Maybe this is one bag.
Anyway, I remember eating them and it tasted like fucking heaven.

(57:50):
I got strep throat during basic training and they gave me cough drops.
And that was like fucking, and they were shit, they weren't good like loodins.
It was like dog shit cough drop, but that tasted fucking awesome at that point.
So I ate these crisp M&Ms and I fucking inhaled them.
They were so good and I was sicker than a fucking dog and I puke and puke to puke.

(58:14):
Pew puke.
Yes.
Sicker than fuck.
Oh my god.
But they tasted, I'll never forget it.
I was like, this is the best tasting shit on the planet, right?
Oh, how funny.
Um, but yeah, but then they discontinued them.
So I don't, I couldn't even try them again if I wanted to.
Oh, man.
But peanut M&Ms are the best.
They are the best, by far.
So that takes us to number one.

(58:35):
And you already know where we're going.
Racist peanut butter cups.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's what I thought you said when you said pieces and it's got to be and to be fair for peak
Reese's peanut butter cup.
The pumpkin or the tree or whatever the fuck you know, those kinds are the best.

(58:57):
Those are the best.
What do you, what do you put just a regular cup?
I mean, we're in a cup.
I still put up there.
It's just not quite as good as the smooth rounded.
The thin, the thin cups like the king size where you get the four different cups in the long, in the long tube.
The sleeve.
The sleeve.
Yeah.
That those are good.
Those are a second.
Like, so eight number one egg is like one a cups one B.

(59:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But minis throw them away.
They take a shit.
Yeah, those little minis.
I just don't know what they don't hit for me either.
They're not good.
I don't know if I'd even put it on my top 10.
They taste like shit.
I think it's too much chocolate to fucking peanut butter.
Peanut butters ratio.
The ratio is off.

(59:44):
Yeah, something's fucked with it.
And I do feel like the tree or the egg is a smoother chocolate like a softer chocolate than the peanut butter cup.
It seems different.
It's different and it's good.
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I'm building you a list.
I was looking at your lats.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Now we're going to go through my 10 worst candies.

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Okay.
The most overrated piece of shit candies.
Fucking miss me with all these motherfuckers.
Okay.
Number 10.
And this is a deep cut.
Only some people are going to know what this is.
The fucking peanut butter kisses.
Do you remember these?
No.
Not Hershey kisses.
I'll talk about the shitty black and orange wrapper candies.

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Are they just regular Hershey kiss?
You would either get a black, no, it was just a round ball and it was either a black wrapper
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It wasn't a Hershey kiss at all.
No.
It was just a circle.
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It wasn't chocolate.
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Okay.
I remember.

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It was hard to get stuck in your teeth.
I remember a black and orange circle and foil.
But I don't remember eating it.
You would either be black or orange for hot or mean.
Yeah.
Black or orange.
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Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I don't remember eating it, but I do remember those.
Terrible candy.
Okay.

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Number nine, Mary Jane's.
I have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
Okay.
It's the same.
It's basically the same.
There's the same company that made the peanut butter kisses.
Okay.
It's Mary Jane's.
Again, it was like peanut butter, molasses, taffy, is just got stuck in your teeth.
Wait a minute.
Are they in the black and orange wax paper?
I don't.
I think it's like a tan and yellow wrapper.
I haven't seen them forever.

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Let me see it.
Do you have a picture?
No.
Well, I got to have a picture.
I got Mary Jane's.
They're from 1914.
So which is crazy because some of these candies were talking about it been around about
that log and they're fucking great.
What were they doing back then?
Yeah.
These.
Black and orange.
Yeah, that's it.
The black and orange.
The black and orange.

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That's the peanut butter kisses.
It's the same company.
Why are you calling them kisses?
That's what they were called.
Okay.
Sometimes those hit a little.
Really?
Sometimes.
The black and orange in the wax paper.
Yeah, wax paper.
Not foil.
Yeah.
Twisted on the sides.
Yes.
I never want them, but I've had them and I was like, that's not as bad as I was going to

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be.
Oh, I hate them.
Oh, okay.
I do understand that though.
Yeah, I'm never excited about them.
No.
I was like in the 80s and you went trick-or-treating.
I was so fucking rude.
How dare you put this in anybody's terrible.
And in hindsight, it's probably just like old people that thought it was great and they're
like, they're love these.
Yeah.
And like, no.
It was.

(01:08:55):
That's an old person's candy.
Yeah.
Number eight.
Again, I got some hot takes.
Okay.
Because I got to keep it a little controversial.
I never knew those were called Mary Jane's.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Number eight, I'm put fucking, and this is specifically only.
Only to the Halloween candy hall.
These are the candies when I get them.
I was like, dude, come on.

(01:09:17):
Fucking starburst.
What?
Yeah.
Those are my favorite.
The fun-sized starbursts.
Yeah.
I don't like them.
You're crazy.
I don't like them.
I don't want them.
They're always harder than a regular starburst.
Are they?
If you ever had, oh, you did.
I got, did I, did you eat those minis?
Starburst minis where it's all the reds in the package where it's like, they're

(01:09:40):
little tiny squares.
You hand-full them in your again.
I don't know if I have.
What?
Oh my god, they're so fucking good.
The mini.
Not the triumph.
I don't know if I've ever had those.
Oh my god.
Everybody go get them.
Okay.
Well, I'll try.
I'll give it a shot.
But it's a key ask.
It's a key ask candy.
You fucking pour it in your mouth.
Now, the starbursts were originally called Opal fruits back in 1967.

(01:10:05):
So a fairly newer candy.
Okay.
Number seven, I got almond joys at number seven.
Are you fucking kidding me?
That's a love them.
You're rude.
That's first off, you're wrong.
Number one, wrong.
Number two, if you were going to put anything in there, it's mounds.
I'm not the almond joys.
That's the same thing, isn't it?

(01:10:25):
No, it's not.
Almond joy has the almond in it.
Mounds is just the shitty coconut and the chocolate.
The almond stills a show.
Without it, you have a fucking piece of garbage mounds and the mounds suck.
Okay.
All right.
So hard, no, hard pass on that.
Okay.
Number six, I got Nestle fucking crunch bar.

(01:10:47):
Okay, here's the thing.
I agree with you.
But every once in a while, I've gotten a fun size.
It's gotten a little bit melty.
Okay.
And that fucker hits.
Really?
A little melty on that crunch.
See, this is how you need to make the video series.
Makes it like more tolerable.
Because that crunch bar is always at the, when you get your candy haul, it's like the

(01:11:10):
last ones where you're just like, oh, I'm out of all the good ones.
All right.
I agree.
I agree.
But if you melted a little bit, maybe I don't know.
Put in your pocket.
Just let it soften up a pinch.
See, it surprises you.
It's just better.
Number five, fucking tootsie rolls.

(01:11:30):
Really?
Not a fan.
Listen, if I got that a tootsie roll in my Halloween bag.
Exactly.
That would be a disappointment.
I want to throw it back at them.
Yeah.
They have those at the, but not more than the Mary James.
Mary James is a fucking throw it in your face.
That's an insult.
That's an insult.

(01:11:51):
At a trick or treating, that's an insult.
How dare you?
The tootsie roll.
They have a tootsie roll at the place I get.
My real line man's done.
And I'll fucking eat one.
Because I'm a fucking chunk.
I'll eat it.
I'm not saying I will never eat any of these.
I'm just saying, like when you're talking about the best
of worst candies, you're wrong.

(01:12:12):
Tootsie rolls is one of the worst candies ever.
No, wait, I don't like the fruit ones though.
The fruities?
Yeah, I don't love them.
I kind of like the fruities.
Oh no, see, I'm a, I'm a purist when it comes to the tootsie
roll.
And, okay, do you remember, what was it called?
Was it, it was like a white chocolate bar in the 90s?
Was it Nestleys?
A white chocolate bar.

(01:12:35):
It was like a thin like a crunch, but it was a white.
And they had a really horny commercial.
Oh fuck.
Do you remember this?
No.
I'm gonna find it.
Is it cookies and cream?
I hated cookies and cream.
Did you like those?
I didn't hate them.
Oh, I fucking hated it.
I don't like white chocolate.
Oh, I don't hate it.
It's Nestleys.

(01:12:55):
It's gotta be Nestleys.
Hold on, let me do this.
Oh white.
Now I'm gonna tell a story while you're looking that up.
You mentioned fruities.
You remember I used to talk about when I played baseball, me and my friend Pupy Shupy used
to hang out with this bully.
Uh-huh.
I don't have a cool name for him.
We didn't have any cool names for him.
Anyways.

(01:13:16):
How does he not get one?
Well, because he was fucking a bully.
Well, at least to hang out with him.
He was older, right?
Okay.
And he's the guy that we watched Pornow and he'd be like, stand up.
I want to see if you've got a boner.
And he had that tick.
He always goes, he also used to fucking call me fruity.

(01:13:37):
Because I would eat fruity sometimes.
He'd be like, here you go, fruity.
I like throw fucking candy at me.
Like an old timey guy.
Kind of.
Kind of like a, but it was like more of a chirp than it was a like a, see, it was more like
a, and he'd like blink his eyes like he had Tourette or something.
Probably did.
That's why he was mean.
Everybody like fucked with him.

(01:13:58):
And he was funny as fuck though.
He was the rudest person you ever met.
He's the one that taught us, because he was older, right?
And he taught me and poopy chupy about the anatomy of a woman.
Oh.
And he taught us Pissle, Pussy Hole, Assle.
Oh.
He drew one thing.
He was wild.
He's for sure in prison.

(01:14:18):
It's a literacy.
So that's cool.
Yeah.
Well, if it's a shock that he wasn't paying attention to that.
Yeah, he used to call me fruity.
Hey, fruity.
Because I would eat fruity.
He's like, they were around.
I would eat them.
I don't know.
It wasn't like a spokesperson.
You weren't endorsing him.
No.
I found it.

(01:14:38):
All right.
Tell us.
Let me turn it up.
Oh, that is it.
It's wharney.
Yeah.
What is that?
So wharney.

(01:15:01):
So white.
So pure.
Can't resist.
Yeah, I remember that.
That was just a white dancing.
It reminds me of like that was big time in the Delilah.

(01:15:22):
Yes.
Hi, Brian.
I really have a hardness to algebra that 90s love music.
Sexy, sultry sounds.
I love it.
I didn't know I was so into it.
I'm so into it.
I'm so into it.
That pure moods fucking bi-
Yeah, the pure moods and like what's that love there?
Like the Inja.
Yes.
Like the Inja.

(01:15:42):
Yes.
Oh, the Inja.
Inja.
Inja.
Yeah, the movie Boxing Helena is really great for that.
It's got, you know, like give me a 90s movie with the window open to like a silk fucking
curtain blown in the breeze and fucking music like that.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, dude, this is where it's at.

(01:16:04):
Okay.
Number four.
The fucking plain Hershey bar.
And I know that this is iconic status for chocolate.
But again, it's the bottom of the bag.
I'm not touching that until I absolutely have to agree.
At least put a fucking almond in it.
Give me something.
Something.
First sold in the year 1900.

(01:16:25):
This is what started it all for Hershey, who actually started out.
He actually started with an 1886 with a plate thing called the Lancaster Carmel Company,
but then moved over to chocolate in 1993 and started selling the Hershey bar.
And they were trying to really get the milk chocolate thing going.

(01:16:48):
Makes it a little dark or makes it a little like bitter.
It's not as like yummy.
That's why Cadbury's chocolate is better.
It's a little bit yummier because they don't, I think they use milk powder instead of milk
chocolate.
Oh, I don't know.
It makes it, I don't know.
I'm just talking about my ass right now.
I don't know if that's true.

(01:17:08):
I remember something like that.
I don't know how to think about the battles between Mars and Hershey's in the beginning.
There was something about the milk chocolate.
What was the show?
It was called Food Industries.
Food is built in America.
Yes.
That was pretty interesting.
It was super interesting.
It was super interesting.
Now ironically, I actually like some of the variants of the Hershey kisses.

(01:17:28):
Okay.
You love a Hershey kiss.
I'm not.
It's not my thing.
I don't like a plain one.
I like to give me some weird rando.
I like it not in it.
If you put some nuts in something, I'll eat it.
I'll try the one with the almonds.
I've never had one with the almond.
I said turn my nose into the almond stuff when I was a kid.
Why?
I don't know.

(01:17:48):
It's when you're a kid.
You just stupid.
Yeah.
But yeah, give me the Hershey kiss with the fucking strawberry goo in it or the rainbow brownie.
I'll eat that.
Those ones are fun.
Pretty good.
I like the cordial.
You got cordial ones good?
For Christmas.
It's like the Christmas one.
And the perfect size, like you just need a little something.
If anybody's out there and you're looking at candy around Christmas and you are blessed

(01:18:14):
by God and you find the peppermint.
Gosh, what are they called?
Their peppermint.
Not a blowpop.
What's the other one called?
Not with the gum, but the with the touchy roll in the middle.
Oh, yeah.
This is called a blowpop.

(01:18:35):
It's the one with the gum.
Yeah, I know.
Tutsi pop.
Oh, it's a Tutsi pop.
The Tutsi pop with the specifically has to be with the peppermint.
You will die.
It's so fucking good.
I'll look for that.
Delight.
If you find them, grab me a bag because I'm going to give them out to my clients.

(01:18:57):
Okay.
Number three dots.
I know.
They're shit.
Okay.
Good.
It's all nostalgia.
That is 100% nostalgia.
There's how I get them.
This tastes like absolute nothing in paper.
Those were released in 1945 and they make four billion of those a year still.

(01:19:17):
They're fun.
They also make the crows.
Remember the crows?
You know why I love them so much?
They remind me of, ew, crows.
Are those like the blacks or the white?
Yes.
They're the same shit company.
They always remind me of the buttons remind me of Willy Wonka.
It just like remember he grabbed them and pulled up when they were in the candy store.

(01:19:40):
Well, you're talking about the dots on the paper.
The dots on the paper.
I don't know about dots as in...
Oh, the gummies?
The gummies.
Yeah.
The hard little gummies.
Oh, those are shit.
Yeah.
Those are total shit.
Yeah.
No, not the paper dots thing.
Oh, I see.
Sorry.
My mistake.
Number two.
I think the ones I'm talking about are called buttons.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
The ones for the Purin nostalgia, of course.

(01:20:02):
Yeah.
Dots, tastes like shit.
They're way too...
Those just go straight to your teeth.
Yeah.
Yamazas just...
It's the same with...
Stick them in there.
You...
I wouldn't be surprised if like Swedish fish was made at the same fucking plant as those...
Evil plant.
Yeah.
Some evil plant that just wants to have to sit there and finger your teeth all fucking
day after the heat one.
It's the...

(01:20:23):
It's the anti-sugar factory because they want you to hate candy and just give up on
it.
Number two.
Jolly Ranchers.
What?
I hate me.
A Jolly Rancher.
Why?
You look like a hard candy.
If I have to, I'll eat one.
Yeah.
I don't like that.
A watermelon Jolly Rancher you hate.
Yeah.
Outrageous.

(01:20:44):
I hate the apples.
I don't like the apple ones.
I don't like...
Actually, I don't like any of the other ones.
The watermelon ones are like...
I love them.
The only Jolly Rancher good for is to drop in a Z-Mone.
They help me.
That is literally a...
They don't even make Z-Mone anymore.
I've been told about that.
I never had a Z-Mone with a Jolly Rancher.
I probably didn't do anything.
I probably just put a little flavor in there.
They're just...

(01:21:05):
It's just a terrible candy.
They're cheap.
Again, it's...
It's just...
It's just...
Do you not like a...
Do you like a whirthers?
I like a hard candy one.
Yeah, like whirthers?
I like a whirthers.
I like to...
Like...
Have candy in my mouth for longer that I don't have to...
So I'm not like shoveling candy in.
So it's nice about a hard candy.

(01:21:26):
And I was at the...
I was at a place the other day and...
Like...
It had a bowl of Jolly Ranchers and my breath felt a little like stale.
And I was like...
All right.
So I put it in and I...
I fucking...
When I got done there, I spit it out and threw it away.
I didn't even finish it.
And I was like...
Really?
Yeah.
I just don't like them.
I don't ever think that your breath tastes better after a Jolly Rancher though.

(01:21:47):
Like it doesn't...
It might smell a little bit better.
I was at a bad place at the time.
Oh no.
Number one, the most overrated candy.
And I've got to make one asterix to this so don't get outraged yet.
Oh, okay.
Fucking sourpatch kids.
The only exception is the watermelon.
The watermelon sour.
The watermelon.

(01:22:08):
Okay.
I agree.
I'll eat those fucking watermelon for some reason.
The watermelon are great.
I don't like a sourpatch kid either.
I don't like them at all.
I know.
I don't like sour.
I don't like sour shit.
But I'm not like super anti-sour shit either.
But the sourpatch kids are like, why do people like these?
I don't know.
They taste like shit.
It's the most overrated candy ever.
Kind of like a warhead too.
Do you remember warheads?

(01:22:29):
Those hard candies?
Yeah.
I didn't get those either.
They were really sour.
And you couldn't even bite into them.
I just never got it.
Never made sense to me.
So there's my...
Well, that took forever.
Boy.
Did you ever have...
I'm running behind on time now.
Have you ever had a big daddy?
Is it called a big daddy?
I don't...
Big hunk?
Oh, big hunk.

(01:22:50):
That's what it's called.
And then there's something called a sugar daddy.
Sugar daddy.
Sugar daddy and big hunk.
Did you ever have any of those?
They're kind of like a nugity, like kind of like a...
A big hunk is fucking good.
Did you like those?
I don't remember it.
Do you remember the look of it?
There's a big black long thin nugit.
And it had nuts in it.

(01:23:12):
So it was like white.
And the packaging was black.
And it said big daddy on it.
I don't...
I don't recall.
Do you like a sugar daddy?
I don't recall.
You're the worst.
Those are weird candies that are actually pretty good.
Now I've got...
But the fuck with your teeth?
Those are...
If you have a loose filling, you're gonna...
It's gonna be a problem.
They're gone.
Here's what I got for your list here.
And I don't know what ore you put these in.

(01:23:34):
Wax lips?
Oh, no.
Those aren't on the list.
Those are just like...
I guess I'd be number 10 because they just get there because I loved them for the first time.
They just get there because I loved them for Halloween.
Okay, this would be fun.
This would be like the TikTok thing where you rank them as we go.
Yeah.

(01:23:55):
That's number 10.
Alright, I'm gonna write them down as we go here.
I wouldn't ever eat them, but...
I only got nine.
They make me very excited.
They make me very excited.
Actually, you're not gonna be able to rank these because you probably would want like peanut butter cups and M&M's on here.
Yeah, that's fine.
Just tell me what they are.
Okay.
Fun dips.
Oh, I find it would be like a number two.

(01:24:18):
Okay.
Chico stick.
Oh, I do love a fucking Chico stick.
You do love.
I haven't seen anyone in a while, but when I first met you really into them.
I love them.
What the hell's a Chico stick?
They're pretty good though.
They're like a Chico stick is like a butter finger without the chocolate.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
I think that's exactly what it is.

(01:24:40):
So...
That's the orange shit inside of a butter finger.
But it's a little bit more flaky.
I feel like the butter finger gets stuck in your teeth a little bit more than the Chico stick.
Chico stick will crumble in your mouth a little bit more, I think.
I'm remembering right?
Chico stick is probably like eight.

(01:25:01):
Almond joys, mounds, whatever.
Almond joys seven.
Bit of honey, you mentioned that.
Almond joys six.
Honey seven.
Symphony bars.
Ooh, one.
Oh.
No, three.
Okay.
Fruit Nut bar.
Two.

(01:25:22):
Hot tamales.
I fucking love hot tamales.
I know you do.
That's my dad.
I love them.
Oh, man.
Better than a symphony.
Four.
Wow, that's really high.
I don't think you'd actually have them to hide.
And then...
I love cinnamon.

(01:25:45):
Huh.
Cinnamon's my favorite.
Look at our baby.
Last but not least, black licorice in some form or fashion.
I fucking love black licorice.
I do too.
I love it.
Man.
I just don't have that.
It's just a five.
The problem of black licorice is there's not a clear contender for like a Halloween black licorice.
You know what I mean?
Well, Ardick's Circle used to do their different flavors for every single month of their

(01:26:11):
soft serve.
Yeah.
And Ardick's Circle would always do a black licorice one for Halloween.
And it was fucking bomb.
And then they changed their stupid machines.
And then they only did something like where it's like a...
Some weird glazy thing that you put on to it.
So it's not like the whole ice cream anymore.
Any more.
We should call them.
They're back to doing flavors yet.

(01:26:32):
Because that was the funnest shit ever.
It was the best.
What did they do?
They did.
For Halloween was black licorice for Thanksgiving was pumpkin.
And then for Christmas, they would do like egg nog or some shit like that.
It was so good.
And it made me...
I would never go to what's it called?
Ardick's Circle without the flavor thing going on.

(01:26:56):
Like it was the thing I said, oh, it's...
Yeah.
We got to go.
It's this flavor this year or the for Halloween.
We got to go.
I think it's a Utah specific store.
I don't know how many people know what the Ardick's Circle is.
Oh, it's like a dairy queen.
Yeah, because it has burgers and stuff and the food's very mid.
It is mid.
It's totally mid.
Soft serve's great though.

(01:27:16):
Yeah.
Alright, well, I still already out of time is the problem.
No.
We could...
But I want to get...
But I want to make this one big super fun episode.
Let's just go.
So I propose we pause and come back and finish the rest.
Do you concur?
Are you hungry?
Yeah, I just...

(01:27:37):
I got to take care of everything real quick and then I'm just going to pause and we'll
come right back.
This is the Halloween Super Special and it's extra long.
I actually think it's going to take this long to get through the fucking candy.
But we're going to come back.
We're talking about the songs and we're going to top 10 Halloween songs.
Then top 10...
These are all mine, of course.
Halloween movies and the most overrated Halloween movies, I think.

(01:27:58):
Okay.
And yeah, so see you in exactly one second.
Alright, we're back for the exciting part two of the Halloween Special and if you listen
to the first half, I don't know why you wouldn't have, we talked about the top 10 and worst
10 candies.
Now, we're going to shift into Halloween songs.

(01:28:21):
It's kind of a week one, I think.
Okay.
This is a week one for sure.
But I thought this would be fun.
I don't even know those Halloween songs.
There really isn't to be honest.
Okay.
And they're always so like the choices for these when you look around online with people
claim for the Halloween songs.
It's always like, I don't know.

(01:28:44):
What?
It's almost like they pick them based on the title than more than anything and they're like,
well, that sounds scary.
Okay.
So it's we, but we're going to do this and we're going to talk about the, the, my top 10
Halloween movies.
Okay.
With my top 10 overrated Halloween movies.
And I have impeccable taste.
So I know everyone is going to love to hear my takes.

(01:29:05):
All right.
Number 10 on the Halloween song list.
David Bowie's Scary Monsters and Super Freaks.
I don't know how that goes.
Scary Monsters.
Super Freaks.
Keeps me running.
Running.
Scared.
I've never heard that song.

(01:29:27):
No.
No.
I mean, is it a Halloween song?
Fucking no.
It's just a title, I guess, but it's a great song.
It's one of his best songs.
Is it a big David Bowie fan?
You love David Bowie.
You can't.
You can't say it's his best.
It's one of his best.

(01:29:47):
By far better than China girl.
Oh, come on.
Where's our Halloween playlist?
Shoot, I don't know where it is.
You didn't put it on mine.
I don't know.
I had to look.
I'd have to disrupt the flow.

(01:30:09):
Disrupt it.
That's where my list is.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Now when I was researching this song, apparently it was on the video game Grand Tourismo
back in '98, which I should have known because I played the absolute shit out of that
game.
But it was before I really got into David Bowie, so maybe I just didn't recognize it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I mean, you never played Grand Tourismo.

(01:30:31):
No.
It was it changed video games forever.
Really?
It was such a good game.
Me and all my friends would play it for hours and hours and hours.
Anyway, number nine.
The freaks come out at night.
Oh, okay.
That's a great song.
Great song.
Houdini 1984.
Okay.
In fact, the video features Dremain Dupree when he was a dancer for Houdini.

(01:30:55):
No.
So take that.
Number eight, the Time Warp from Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Okay.
Probably my least favorite Rocky Horror Picture Show song though.
Yeah.
I agree.
Just because it was played to death.
To death.
I would agree that that's not my favorite song.
And then when you go to see the movie, they do, they play it for the costume contest.

(01:31:19):
And they play it during the movie, obviously.
Then they play it in the final credits again.
And it's like, okay, I get it.
It's like for the noobs.
You know, it's like for basic bitches who don't get into Rocky Horror.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, I know.
Yeah, the Time Warp.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.

(01:31:39):
Number seven.
DJ Jazzy Jeff in the Fresh Princess, a Nightmare on My Street.
1988, around the time of the release of Nightmare on My Street 4.
And the producers of the film actually considered this for the soundtrack.
Then I'm not doing it.

(01:32:00):
Then New Line Cinema who owns Nightmare on My Street sued DJ Jazzy Jeff in the Fresh Prince
for copyright infringement.
Ordered the music video to be destroyed.
But then later it was allowed back up as long as they provided a disclaimer.
And it's a great song.
Great beat.
This is great.

(01:32:21):
This is peak Will Smith in my opinion.
I agree.
I mean, I love.
I loved.
I loved.
I loved.
Gain Jiggy with it.
I loved it.
I liked Miami better than Jiggy.
I think like that one at all.
They're both corny though.
Let's be honest.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I that was still the time when it was kind of like I like the song.

(01:32:45):
I don't feel like if if Gain Jiggy with it comes on today, I would I would change it.
Yeah, it's just not good.
Yeah, it doesn't have like the same power.
But his early stuff was great.
I mean, he was a great storyteller.
He had a good flow.
He was a great rapper in the 80s.

(01:33:05):
Number six, psycho killer by the talking heads.
Great song.
The best.
It was their debut hit in 1977.
Oh, really?
Yeah, and they released it.
And this was around the time of the son of Sam serial killer.
Well, and people thought it was based upon him and they and they denied that it was, you
know, David burn.

(01:33:26):
One of the the Trinity of Holy David's.
Yeah, David burn David Bowie and David Lynch.
He called it a macabre synchronicity that it would happen.
Number five, don't fear the Reaper.
It's a great one.
It's a great song.
It's a song dealing with eternal love and the inevitability of death and the guy from

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the band lead guitars and singer.
Donald Buck Dharma Rosa wrote it while picturing an early death for himself.
And people thought he was encouraging suicide because there's a reference to like, will me
you in Julia together in eternity?

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Oh, God.
This also gave us the more cowbell.
Get on this now.
Number four, Rockwell's somebody's watching me.
How's that go?
Always feeling.
Oh, yeah.
That's a great song.
That is a good song.
Michael Jackson, of course, on the vocals there.

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Yes.
That's a good one.
Uncredited for who knows why because he was lovely.
I guess.
Rockwell, a Nebo baby.
He was buried Gordy's son.
The CEO of Motown Records.
It's fine.
I don't care.
It's a great song.
Number three.
I feel like everybody famous has famous parents.
Yeah.

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We got to get over it, I guess, right?
Do we get over it?
I mean, I just don't think that there's a way around it.
Yeah.
That's for them.
And I guess the rest of us just fucking grovel.
So.
Number three.
The Ghostbusters song, huh?
Yeah.
A little repetitive.

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Is that Billy Ocean?
Who do you think?
No, it's Ray Parker Jr.
Oh, okay.
But it's worth it for the, he got to stick around for the end where he said, "Bust
and makes me feel good."
Yes.
I'm a little bit scared.
Snuck that one in there, did he?

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Now this was the 80s.
So what people may not understand is that the 80s were different.
This song was the number one hit for weeks, which is shocking, right?
I mean, here it was a year and you're like, "Okay, good enough.
Got it."
But the music video, because it was part of the movie, obviously, the music video had
every celebrity on the planet in it.

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Back then, like the celebs out, they all got on board with having a good time and being
fun.
Yeah.
There's a movie.
There's got a cross over to the movies and the music.
And here comes Huey Lewis fucking Suze Ray Parker Jr.
Saying he stole his melody from a one-of-new drug, one that won't mimic.
Oh.

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Did he?
Yeah, he sued him.
What did he win?
Yeah, he settled out a court for an undisclosed sum.
Oh, wow.
When in 2004, it was revealed that they did, in fact, his dealish melody.
That's fucked up.
Yeah, they said that when they filmed the movie, they inserted the Huey Lewis song in the

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clips where the Ghostbusters song was going to be.
And they showed it to Ray Parker.
They're like, "This is what we want you to make the song sound like."
So he totally stole it.
Oh, jeez.
Huey Lewis, a legend, of course, though.
You know?
You mad that he sued him?
I would have sued him.
I'm like, "Hey, fuck."
Yeah, especially now that I know it was for real.
That's fucked.

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But I like Huey Lewis, so that's fine.
Huey Lewis is one of those guys.
You know, back in the '80s, all the hot singers, they were fucking 48 years old.
Old.
Old dudes.
Crushed in teenage plus, I bet, too.
You know what I mean?
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
They were disgusting.
They were openly disgusting about messing around with underage girls and shit.

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You know what I mean?
They were all about it.
They loved it.
So it's like, so for as much as we want to shit on Justin Bieber, it's like, this mess
around with girls is age when he was famous.
I'm sure.
You know, Justin Bieber.
I'm just saying, you know, like people...
Why would anybody shit on Justin Bieber?
Because they'd say, like, "Oh, it's too young."
You know, when he got famous.

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But in the '80s, old dudes were the famous ones.
It's like, you can't trust these old dudes around these young girls.
Yeah.
Young dudes, so that when they're hookin' up with young girls, at least they're, you know,
appropriate.
Yeah.
I think sometimes the older women were a little bit inappropriate with poor beeps.
Ah, true.
And I was like, "Uhhhh."

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Number two, the Ramones Pet Sematary.
Oh, okay, yeah.
And I love this because it's based on the movie from the Stephen King book Pet Sematary
where the pets come back to life, you know?
Mm-hmm.
Because the movie's great.
From 1989.
They showed the...
Or, uh...
The Stephen King was a huge Ramones fan.
He gives them his book.

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They read it and they're like, "Bet, we'll make a whole song about this."
One, two, three, four.
And then they did it.
And then number one, Michael Jackson's thriller, gotta be number one.
Is it played out 100 percent?
Mm-hmm.
Still great, though.

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That's your number one.
Yes, number one, clearly.
I don't know about that.
The video...
What about the music video?
The music video doesn't bring back great nostalgic memories.
I just feel like they...
You've just played it too much.
It's for sure overplayed.
I don't know.
The video from John Landis, the director made this video.

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That's a killer song that I'm trying to think of.
It's like "O Killer."
No, no, no.
They played it in American horse or was that the hotel one with Gaga?
Oh, boy.
You know it.
There was a song they played that you remember?
It's like fucking...
I'm like trying to find it, it's driving me crazy.

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It's like the best.
I thought I had it in my Amaze Balls playlist, but I can't find it.
Well, the thriller video was basically a little mini movie.
I have fond memories as a kid watching this because we used to watch MTV a lot when I was

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growing up.
I think it stoked my interest in horror movies to be honest because I remember being really
scared because I loved Michael Jackson as a kid.
Boy, I loved Michael Jackson.
When he turned around and had those eyes, I was like "No!"
But the album thriller is the highest selling album in history.

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It'll never be beaten because that's not how it works anymore, right?
Oh, yeah.
And every year, this song charts around Halloween.
This is like, before Mariah Carey did the Christmas shit.
You know?
Okay, I found it.
Where you apart by she wants revenge.

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That's a great Halloween.
That's a good Halloweeny, for sure.
You don't think it is?
Yeah, for sure.
Okay, good.
For sure.
That's number one.
That's number one.
The very rare first.
Thriller step aside.
It is only because I'm over it.
It's just over, thriller.
I'm over, what's the one that you just said?

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Ghostbusters and I'm over, thriller.
Ghostbusters makes me feel good.
So sorry.
Well, I'm just, that's fair.
I don't know if anybody knows, should I play it for him?
Sure I'll play a little db.
It sounds like the Boo Berry cereal song.

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Yeah, it feels Halloweeny.
I'll just do a little bit, just a little paster.
So we don't get taken down for infringement?
It's a long entry.
So you got a top.
You got a top 10 songs or a top 5?
No, you didn't tell me any of this shit, you maniac.
You're just over there making lists.

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This is the longest entry into a song on the planet.
Thriller wouldn't take this long to get going.
Well, Jesus.
Thriller would have been halfway through by now.
Jesus.
That was Halloweeny.
Uh-huh.
Alright, that's all.
Number one.
Number one.
There you go.

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You heard it here.
Alright, now let's wrap this up.
We're going to do a top 10.
This is very subjective.
You're going to disagree with some of these.
Okay.
This is top 10 Halloween movies.
This isn't top 10 horror movies.
This is top 10 movies I want to watch in Halloween.
Okay.
Number 10, Insidious.

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Directed by James Wan, 2010.
He's the guy I did to saw movies, the conjuring movies.
Insidious.
Insidious.
It's about that dude whose kid goes into a coma and goes into this other realm and then
there's like, that guy's kind of hot.
Was it he and little people or little children, little children?

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Oh yeah, that dude.
He's in the conjuring movies.
Yes.
He's hot and that one too.
Yeah.
Anyways.
Anyways.
I think that's a really good movie.
Scary as fuck.
Good jump scares.
Mm-hmm.
I'll give you what I'm mind.
Good build up.
Okay.
Okay.
Death Becomeser.
Okay.

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Love it for Halloween.
Good take.
I don't like scary.
So I feel like-
Tell us what that movie is about.
Death Becomeser has Bruce Willis and-of the-what's-I can't-I don't know.
People's-Marrow's Streep and the fucking-
Jack Nicholson?
No.
No.
Has-overboard.

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What's her name?
Meg Ryan.
Meg Ryan.
Meg Ryan.
I can't see her face.
I can't think of her dumb name.
That's-Roberts or Meg is film.
Didn't know that.
Yeah.
I could-I-Goldie Han.

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Goldie Han, Jesus.
That was painful.
All right.
Let's put it good.
But she-that one's perfect.
It's such a fun Halloweeny movie and it's not scary.
You like a-you like some comedy fantasy in your Halloween movies.
Mm-hmm.
I wanna-I wanna be scared.
I don't.
Okay.
Next.

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Do go and-I'll-I'll-I'll tit for tat ya.
Okay.
Number nine, "Sturve Echoes."
Oh, that is so good.
Star and Kevin Bacon.
One of the most slept on movies in all time, I would argue.
That one is so freaking good.
Good music.
Scary as fuck.
I feel like "Sturve Echoes" is at the same level as the "Sixthense."
Better.

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Oh, I don't know if it's better.
But-
Better.
Better, you get better.
No fucking way.
Sixth Sense, everybody walk out of that theater with their mind blown.
Well, that's one of the reasons this film is slept on is because it was in the
box office at the same time as "Sixthense," Blair Witch Project and the Mummy.
Which were all professional.
Oh, okay.
That movie's great.
It's a terrible timing, but boy, is that a good movie.

(01:45:04):
It is a good one.
I think it has better replay value than "Sixthense," though.
Maybe.
Hmm.
Interesting.
I don't know.
I like "Sixthense."
I mean, not to take anything away from "Sixthense," but-I feel like all those M-Night
Shalai Madame and Deng Dong movies are-you've seen them once, you're good.
Yeah, I mean, I kinda get that.

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It doesn't make them bad, it's just-I get that.
Because it's so great.
The first go is like, "Jay, oh my god!"
You know?
Yeah.
And then the second time is like, you only want to-you only want to go see it again because
you want to watch somebody else have the-are you fucking kidding me moment?
Yeah.
And you know what an honorable mention that I don't have on my list is the Blair Witch Project?

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I hated that fucking movie.
You did.
Because I went to see it when it was still-deagle-hue.
Yes, you did.
Okay.
We went to go see it when it was still-is this real?
Yeah.
That's what makes it great.
No.
Because this was the first time they really pulled off of-they were doing stuff like this with

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you know, Texas chainsaw massacre where they were like, this is based on real events and
I was like, "Oh shit."
This was different.
The internet had popped off.
They did these online things, they put up missing posters at college campuses and stuff.
Oh, that's funny.
There was a lot of questioning of, is this real?
And then they filmed it with-they didn't even have a script on half of the shit.

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They just were out there for days and days and days and they started like, spooking themselves
out a little bit.
And they just kind of edited the footage together.
That's funny.
But yeah, I remember when we watched it in the theater, when we believed it was real,
it was like hush over the crowd by the end of the movie, you were like, "What the fuck, dude?"
Which is funny because like, looking at it now, you probably-

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It's like that.
God, you guys were fucking dumb, this fucking night-y.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
It was a different time.
Yeah.
But it was cool because it was kind of the end of the innocence of the pre-internet days.
Uh-huh.
It's like, here comes the internet to fuck your whole world up and make you wonder what's
real.
Yes.
Yeah.
You're right.
You know, good and bad, obviously.
Yeah.

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Practical magic.
It's a great Halloween movie.
I love it.
[laughs]
Oh, man, the comedy fantasy fun light-hearted.
I love it.
Little love story.
Mm-hmm.
So good.
Yeah.
I don't hate that.
Okay.
I don't hate it.

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Um, number eight, I've got poltergeist.
You probably never seen it though.
Have it.
I mean, I know it.
That's a little girl one, right?
Yeah, it's really good.
I think it's one of those ones that you could handle.
I mean, I could handle any of them, but I don't want.
I think this is one that like, it's not going to fuck you up too hard.
Okay.
Like, you watched hereditary, which is on my list.
I would say hereditary was fucking wire.

(01:47:54):
Hereditary is kind of the most, to me, is kind of the scariest movie of all time, I think.
That one is so creepy.
Yeah.
Oh, we'll talk about it.
But poltergeist is great.
It's, um, 1982.
It's one of these cursed films.
Yeah.
I love the cursed thing on it.
That's kind of fun.
And it was directed by Toby Hooper, who did Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

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And Spielberg was supposed to direct it, because he was directing ET.
They had a contractual agreement.
It wasn't allowed to direct another movie at the same time.
So Toby Hooper directed it and Spielberg was the producer and wrote the story for poltergeist.
It was supposed to be based on this story that's based on the sequel to Close Encounters

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of the Third Kind, which, I know if you know this,
Spielberg is creating some mega super alien movie that's coming out next year.
I don't.
It's supposed to be a big to do.
Okay.
I've heard rumors, probably bullshit that it's supposed to have a real alien footage.
I don't know if that's true.
I think that's just some internet bullshit.
But hey, it's supposed to be a big to do.

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Okay.
Uh, but it's cursed because a bunch of people died prematurely.
Uh, Dominique Dunn.
She was 22 when she died.
She got the same year this movie came out because her boyfriend, uh, choked her into a coma
and then she died.
Are you fucking kidding me?

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Yeah.
Worse part.
And she was trying to like break up with him or something like that.
And he showed up because you know, why not?
And he choked her and left her to die and she went to a coma and then they had to pull
a plug.
But the fuck is wrong with men?
Not something.
The worst part.
He got a six year sentence.
That's it.

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Worse yet he gets out after three.
Oh my god.
For fucking murder.
God.
That's wild.
Insane.
Absolutely insane.
Oh my god.
That's disgusting.
Seriously.
And this is why not to sound like a performative male.
I think this is why women choose to bear over the man, right?
Yeah.
Shit like this.

(01:50:01):
It's like dude.
What the fuck are we doing in this country?
Yeah.
It's wild.
Um, Heather O'Rourke, she's the young girl in the movie.
She was six.
She died at the age of 12 of septic shock.
And uh, you okay?
No, I was just moving.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Um, but yeah, she died 12.

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Did they have like real um, skeletons in the pool and yeah, yeah.
I remember.
I said, I think we watched a like behind the scenes on.
Yeah.
It was featured on a couple shows.
Shutter had a series on cursed films that was on.
And if you go to snopes, I mean, snopes seems like such fucking, I don't like snopes.
I'll go there, but they're like, all this is all legend.

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This idea of a cursed movie.
And it claimed it's like, okay, those two are kind of young, but then the other two that
died, they were old.
Yeah, they were 53 and 60.
Oh my god.
That's not old.
Anyway.
So yeah, I said we're getting to the age where people are going to be like sad that we
die, but it's not going to be totally like out of left field.

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People make well, they lived most of their life.
Yeah.
They had a pretty good run better, you know, the good guy young.
Fuck.
Number seven, Daria Argento's Susperia.
You've never seen that.
No, it's, it's great.
It's about a witch covenant.

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It's, it's definitely not everyone's cup of tea, but it's totally mine.
Mm-hmm.
Very gory, very over the top, the, the dialogue is shit.
The storyline is hard to follow, but it's Italian horror movie and I love it.
That's what I'm here for.
Daria Argento's a total fucking weirdo.
He went to the, his old thing was, yeah, this is a movie about witches and witches are

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real.
So there's not a lot of like lightheartedness in this movie.
Yeah, okay.
He went to, I forgot what they call it, like the witch's triangle near the black forest,
because they're supposed to be real witch covens out there.
He was trying to like catch him.
Yeah, I try to catch him.
And then he had two sequels.

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He had Inferno and Mother of Tears.
Inferno is great.
Inferno is good as Susperia.
Mother of Tears.
It's fine.
But then they remade Susperia in 2018.
The LucuGuardanenio remake and that's pretty good too.
Really cool story.
All right.
But witches at a ballroom dancing company.

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No ballerina.
A ballerina.
There you go.
So you know, how do you know?
Because you have a jacket with a ballerina on it.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
It done me.
Susperia, one of the best.
Number six.
No, wait, I got one.
Witches of Eastwick.
So good as Jack Nicholson.
I'm not sure.
Is it Susie's basic?

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Is that her name?
The one from Carrie?
No, just kidding.
Has Michelle Fyfer?
I think Michelle Fyfer has a giant fucking coltsor.
Like, first 30% of the movie.
She has like a huge, oh Susie's in Sarandon.
Sorry, excuse me.
Okay.
Susie in Sarandon.
A little rocky horse cross over there.

(01:53:22):
Yes.
I love it.
Would you let Michelle Fyfer give you a coltsor?
Yeah.
I would.
Even an 80 or whatever.
She is.
She looks so good.
When she was in, I mean, this movie's old now, but I remember seeing her in Star Dust and
was shocked at how hot she still was.

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Yeah, she's for sure drinking baby blood.
That woman looks good.
Well, let's say how old is she?
She's 67.
Not goodness.
Incredible.
Okay.
Number six.
I got hereditary, which like I said, I would argue that's the scariest movie of all time.

(01:54:06):
I got it at number six for a Halloween movie.
It's Ari Astor's first film.
I love Ari Astor movies.
Filmed in Utah, Park City in Sandy, which you know, Sandy's like, you know, 30 minutes
outside of Salt Lake there.
It will maybe not 30 minutes.
It was a 24's highest grossing movie until everything everywhere all at once came out.

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But what makes it great is that it's based on a real demon named Paymon, who is in the
lesser key of Solomon book.
Hereditary?
Yeah.
Oh.
Did you know that?
No.
You know, there's like a, I'm not going to plot spoil anything, but there's like a plotline
about a demon and that's for real demon with a real sigil from a real book.

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That's it.
Showing the movie.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Pretty intense.
Doesn't an intense movie?
It definitely leaves a scar tissue in your brain when you walk out of it.
You're like, dude, what the fuck?
I think like the first half of it isn't scary.
It's just horrendous.
We're not going to plot spoil, but there's one moment of that half where you're like, what

(01:55:11):
the fuck are we watching?
You got to get to it.
And then you're like, then strap the fuck in because it gets really weird.
Yes.
But it is, it's like emotionally scarring.
It's upsetting.
It is upsetting.
It's really upsetting.
There's a part where we'll just say there's a part where someone's like crying hysterically
and you're like, oh my god.

(01:55:32):
Oh, it's brutal.
Yeah, it's, I don't want to be a part of this.
I want to see this.
It's very, if you like to be in your fills, that's a, that's all the fills.
Yeah, it'll make you feel something.
And then the ending is just fucking brutal.
You're just like, dude, get me the fuck out of here.
Creepy.
The ending is so wild.
I watched that movie.

(01:55:53):
Did you put that back in the theaters?
Did I take you to the theater?
No.
I saw it on the theater with, I think, I think I watched this with Jimmy the Jackhammer and
that point where things take a weird turn.
We both looked at each other and we're like, oh.
And I remember walking out.
I was like, I'll never watch this again.
I cannot.

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Then your friend came over and was like, we need to watch it.
I was like, all right, well, here we go.
Yeah.
So you got suckered into watching it.
It was scary.
It's terrifying.
It's way scarier than the extra system I would argue.
Okay.
Mine's interview with a vampire.
Good, good, good pick.
Yeah.
So great Halloween movie.
That's not like super scary.

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And it just has the right vibe.
Got some of my favorite men in there.
Brad Pitt.
Tommy Salami.
Yeah, that's like sexy.
Christian Slater.
Yeah.
AKA fake Jack Nicholson.
Yeah.
They sit to pony.
There's no one ever called him out for that.
He does do that.
When he first started, he sounded just like Jack.
And then over the years, it shifted out of existence.

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And you're like, oh, you see, you're, and it's fine.
I don't give a fuck.
But it's like, it's like dude, you sound exactly like Jack.
Maybe he just admired him.
It was like, that'll be my persona is Jack Nicholson.
Like a young Jack.
Yeah.
That is weird.
Heathers is a great movie.
He's done.
Yes.
Loved Heathers.
That was good.
I only watched it once.

(01:57:17):
I wasn't like one that I always went back to.
But again, it didn't feel like like romance-y.
Yeah.
And it was very, and I'm very into the romance.
Yeah, and I'm much romance in the Heathers movie.
Number five, the conjuring.
It's great.
Isn't it weird?
Some people hate these movies.
These conjuring movies.

(01:57:38):
I don't know why.
I don't know what they want.
I feel like that's like an easy beginner's scary.
Those great jumpscares, but not like Gore.
You could watch out with like early teenage kids.
You know what I mean?
And it not be horrendous.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it's great.
I love those movies.
James Wan, again, he's great at this.

(01:58:00):
Yeah.
Of course, based on Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Who turns out they're horrible people.
Yeah, who would have thought?
Who would have thought?
Who would have thought?
That's all that messing around with spirits and stuff.
Oh my God.
What was his thing?
Like they're saying he like raped people or molested on.
I think like fostered a kid and then messed with it or something.

(01:58:22):
Oh my God.
Horendus.
And then Matt Rife bought their house recently.
Can Matt Rife just like not be a thing anymore?
Oh no.
He's gonna do a five year like museum tour thing of the house or something.
And would you go see it?

(01:58:44):
I think so.
I know.
It's like I'm always drawn to this ship, but I don't want to feel like that would be the same
level of scary's that has lost Vegas.
What's that guy's name?
Zach Beggins, part of the museum.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which by the way, did you know he's doing a promotional stuff right now that Ed Geen

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room that we were in that you touched the glass box with his cauldron in it?
Yes.
The glass off the cauldron and telling people like you go in at your own risk and if you
touch that, you might be cursed.
Well, maybe get rid of the fucking wooden floorboards where I rolled into it.
Yeah.

(01:59:27):
Spooky.
I wouldn't go in the room without that thing closed up.
That whole house is creepy.
The conjuring is the highest grossing horror franchise ever.
Oh.
Before they're Friday the 13th, were the nightmare and I'm straight, worth any of them.
That surprises me.
Yeah, $2 billion it brought in so far.
What do you like better?

(01:59:48):
Do you like ghosty stuff or do you like like slasher movies?
That's a tough call.
I like ghosty.
I mean, I like ghosty just as much.
So I prefer ghosty.
I hate the slasher movies.
Oh, I definitely like the slasher's.
Anything ghosty or like exorcism, like demony.

(02:00:08):
Yeah.
I love them equally.
It's hard to pick one.
I just don't like the slasher shit.
Slasher's had to be done, right?
I like the older ones because they're a little less gory.
I don't like too much gore on it.
I don't see people get tortured and shit.
Yeah.
I don't want to watch any of that.
You know, give me Jason Bore.

(02:00:29):
He's slamming someone's body in a sleeping bag against a tree.
I think that's funny.
You know.
But I don't want to see it for real and see their eye will pop out of their head like they
do with some of these movies.
I'm like, dude, I don't need to see all that.
You know, it's too much for me.
It's much for my gentle heart.
All of that is too much for my gentle heart.
I think because like, it's just jump scare stuff with the demon stuff and the, that's more

(02:00:54):
real.
I think those are more real.
Yeah, I agree.
But I, it's the, it's the, I don't know.
All right.
You got another movie?
No.
Go, you got to go.
Number four, the shining.
I think my next movie is going to be one that you're going to say.

(02:01:17):
So that's why I'm waiting.
Oh, okay.
The shining.
It's like Christmasy or something, doesn't it?
Well, it's because it's all snowy.
Yeah.
It's in the winter.
I don't know much about the shining.
So I don't have any details.
But you're not even listening.
I'm listening to you.
Of course I know details.
I've, I wrote a book about it.
I have six hours of shows on it.
Oh, I'm not listening.

(02:01:38):
Oh, I'm not listening.
Oh, I'm not listening.
What should my girlfriend's going to a friend's house and she's picking and how fit out.
She had me, wants me to see it.
Well, she looks really cute.
So the shining, obviously one of the greatest.
It's, yeah, you're probably right.
It doesn't put out a ton of Halloween vibes necessarily, but it is creepy and scary.

(02:02:01):
Yeah.
But it feels like Christmas, so I can't get past it.
Okay.
Let's fair.
I'll put a link in the show and it's the people are like, dude, talk about the shining.
I've got a three-parter I did in August.
I think it was that you got it here.
It's hours and hours of the shining.
And it's a lot.
So I know three, the exorcist.

(02:02:22):
That's what I was going to say.
That was my next one was exorcist.
Oh, okay.
It's horrendous.
Great movie.
It is great.
Unbeatable.
Another one of those cursed movies, by the way, lots of injuries, deaths, accidents,
then the Blair broker back.
And when she breaks it, it's kind of surprising that that's all it took to break her back, to

(02:02:43):
be honest.
Oh, really?
I thought she's thrashing around a good bit.
Yeah, but it looks like they, I thought that they sped up the movie, like the film a little
bit to make it look a little more violent.
Oh.
It kind of just seems like she's sitting, you know, it's not too, it's enough to break
her back.
So I don't know.
Yeah.

(02:03:03):
But it's, yeah, the production of the movie took twice as long as they planned for, because
it's so many problems.
Yeah.
It's a highest, highest grossing R rated movie until 2017's it.
Oh.
It's got some of my favorite lines.

(02:03:24):
Like your, yeah, tell me.
Your mother sucks dick is, Dixon hell and classic, classic, your mother sucks, Dixon hell.
That's brutal.
It's said to have priest.
Oh, I know.
Listen to this.
I got a little snippet I read on wiki.

(02:03:44):
Some scenes, particularly those with sexual content were toned down for the film adaptation,
since an actress of approximately Regan's age was expected to be cast.
The scene where Regan masturbates with a crucifix was in the book more prolonged and explicit
with Regan seriously injuring herself yet attaining orgasm.

(02:04:07):
What?
The film also excludes the possesses in the book.
Oh, in the book.
Okay.
I thought you said that they had the actress do that.
I was like, whoa.
No.
What if that happened in real life?
'Cause isn't that based on a real story?
I don't hear the book, I have no idea.

(02:04:29):
So the film also excludes the possessed.
Regan's constant diarrhea giving her room a strong foul odor.
Oh my god.
Hold on.
Her renda, dude.
Is the book, you think, let's see,
the exorcist movie is the exorcist movie, Real.
Yes, the movie is based on a real life in 1949.

(02:04:52):
Exorcism of a boy known as Roland Doe.
So right there you go.
I guess Roland Doe didn't do that.
(laughs)
So, yeah, we watch that probably every year.
Yeah, it's upsetting.
It's a good one to get in the scary.

(02:05:12):
Get in the scares.
Pretty upsetting.
Very upsetting.
Okay, so then my other one would be Hocus Bocus.
Again, it's nostalgia.
I don't like it for the movie,
but it has like great nostalgia.
- I wouldn't love it.
- I do.
I like it just because it feels like Halloween.
And I like Ghostbusters.
I like to watch Ghostbusters every year.

(02:05:33):
That first scene where they're in the library.
- Her rendus.
- You know, I think I fucked up.
I don't have Ghostbusters on my list.
That belonged on the top 10.
- Yes.
- I should probably boot one of these out and replace it.
To be honest.
Yeah, Ghostbusters is great too.

(02:05:54):
- It's a good Halloweeny movie.
- Number two, and you'll agree with me on this one.
- Okay.
- Beetlejuice from 1980.
- Beetlejuice is so fucking great.
It's so great.
- It's a perfect movie.
- It is.
It's so good.
- It's a perfect movie.
Anyone of any age can watch it.
- Yes.
- Little scary, not too scary.

(02:06:14):
- I don't even, yeah, there's a little something.
Little jumpies.
- Yeah, when you're a little kid,
there's a couple parts of you can be like,
- Right, and then it has the humor,
'cause it's in that timeframe when the humor's written
for adults.
So that's great.
- It's a perfect movie.
- Yeah.
- Now, something interesting I found when I was
reading about it, when the couple, you know,

(02:06:38):
Alec Baldwin and what's her name?
- Yeah.
- When they try to leave their home after they're dead
and they can't.
- Yeah.
- You know how they open the door and it's like this big desert.
- Gina Davis.
- Gina Davis.
- Yeah.
- That's that desert or whatever.
- Yeah.
- All that realm Saturn.
- Oh.
- Isn't that interesting?
- In a show.
- In the movie, yeah.
- I didn't realize that.
- I don't think they say it out loud,
but that's what it said on the Wikipedia about it.

(02:07:00):
- Interesting.
- I was like, well, that's very occulted, right?
- Yeah, well, I guess.
- Filled by Tim Burton, he was going to originally have
Beetlejuice played by Sammy Davis Jr.
- Oh, wow.
(laughing)
- Okay.
- Or he also was considering Sam Kinnison.

(02:07:21):
- I don't know who that is.
- Oh, is that the guy that screams all the time?
- Yeah.
- Mm, okay.
- Then Lydia was almost played by Sarah Jessica Parker.
- No.
- Brooke Shields.
Juliet Lewis.
- She could have done it.
- She could have done it.
She would have actually probably great for it.

(02:07:42):
- Yeah.
- Molly Ringwald.
- No.
- Jennifer Connelly.
- Those tits could have done it.
- I couldn't have focused.
(laughing)
- Jennifer Connelly.
Are those real tits?
- They must be.
- Okay.
- Then the second place runner up for that role

(02:08:03):
was Alyssa Milano.
Can you believe it?
- Oh, I don't know if that was,
she would have been good in there.
- She would have been great.
(laughing)
- I can't believe it.
I didn't know we were this close to getting Alyssa Milano
in there.
I mean, I like Winona Ryder, she's fine.
She's great for it.
- She's great for it.
Alyssa would have been better.
- You think?
- I mean, I'm partial, so.

(02:08:24):
- No.
- Now the spin-off cartoon, you remember that?
- Yes, I like that.
- I did too.
- Every time I'd come home from school,
it was the, I think it would be on.
By the time I'd get off the bus.
- It was so fun.
- My whole childhood is based on what time
I got home from school and what time I went to school
was what cartoons were on.
- Yeah.
- It's not the weirdest.

(02:08:45):
- Yeah.
- It's the way I, and my whole life would be based on,
'cause this is what kids don't get now.
It's like, you didn't have a fucking DVR.
You just had to be there when shit was on.
- Yeah, there's no internet, there's no DVR.
- No.
- You're just basically...
- You were either fucking,
if you weren't home watching it, you missed it.

(02:09:06):
- As an adult looking back,
don't you think we should have delayed school for 10 years?
- No.
- 'Cause think about how fun life is when you're a kid.
It's so fun.
Like, everything's magical,
and you can play with things and it feels real.
And it was torture going to school.

(02:09:29):
It was fucking torture.
(laughs)
- But it's also kind of fun to go to place your friends.
'Cause you didn't get bored in summer.
Or you'd be like, I'm fucking bored.
You were just trying to get out of the house.
- Maybe.
- Yeah, some of the stuff I would be like,
some days in summer were like magic.

(02:09:49):
And then some days, a lot of it was just like,
I'm fucking bored.
- You never had a magical time in school though.
- Sure, you did.
That are you crazy?
Fucking parties?
- At school?
- Assemblies.
You didn't have fucking fun at assemblies.
Assemblies were like...
- What was assemblies?
- Remember you would come home,
you didn't have assemblies?
- Tell me what it is.

(02:10:09):
It sounds familiar.
- Assemblies is like when you get in from,
you didn't even know how great it fucking was.
You didn't even know when it was happening.
It just happened.
And you come in from recess and they'd be like,
okay, everybody, grab your chairs and walk.
And you'd take your chairs and you'd walk into the lunch room
and they'd have a stage and then they would have a presentation.
Sometimes it would be people that could skip rope really great

(02:10:33):
or they would sing songs or shit.
Like it would just be a thing, like a,
something to watch.
- Sounds familiar.
I don't know for exactly.
- Or maybe people talking or I don't know,
it was like just assembly.
You never did that.
- I feel like we might have.
I just don't remember it.
- Assemblies were the fucking bomb.

(02:10:56):
And then like the holidays around in school, so fun.
- Halloween the best one, of course.
- Yes, you gotta go do the parade.
I don't even know if they do these anymore,
but like I loved going to the parades
and like are doing the parade and walking around all the classrooms
to show off your freaking Halloween outfit.
Perfect.
- You're awesome.

(02:11:16):
I loved it.
- It'd be so fun if my mom,
'cause my mom never could get off work.
But every once in a while she'd get off of work.
I think she did it for one year.
She got off of work and she came to school
and she helped me get into my Halloween costume.
So fun.
- What was your Halloween costumes?
- I was a genie, my mom made it.
I don't know.
When I was little,

(02:11:38):
everybody had like that plastic shit
and your nose, like you'd wear that weird plastic mask
and you fucking rub your nose hole.
Tell it was like raw.
- I don't know if I ever had one of those.
- Oh man, it was awful.
And then I don't really remember.
All I remember is the genie one.
I think I was a hula girl once, a genie.

(02:11:58):
I don't even remember.
But I remember being so excited to pick my Halloween outfit.
Like that was a big deal.
- What do you mean you'd pick it?
- Well, you were gonna dress up as.
- Oh.
- Like choose what you're--
- Like at the store?
- Yeah, like no.
Well, yeah, like either at the store,
we'd go to like the second hand store
and like try and piece them shit together.

(02:12:19):
- Uh huh.
- That kind of thing.
My mom would make a lot of our Halloween costumes.
- Yeah.
- So we'd go to like the, to the--
- I bet those so much work.
- That poor woman.
(laughing)
- What a fucking night, man.
- All the kids would be like, oh my god,
it comes Halloween, fuck me.
And she would make, she made my sister,

(02:12:40):
what does she dress up as?
I think she dressed up as a, oh gosh, what's that called?
Like a poodle skirt girl, like a 50s girl.
- Uh huh.
- She made her big giant, yeah.
She made her big giant skirt.
- Uh huh.
- I don't know, it was fun.
- Huh.
Yeah, that was pretty fun.
I mean, okay, all right, that's fine.
Okay, school's fine.

(02:13:00):
I'll take it back.
- Christmas parties.
- This is more of the process.
When I was in sixth grade, we would get out every other Friday
to go play volleyball, and I would fucking dominate
at volleyball.
And then, I think I called my teacher a bitch once,
as I thought, bitch, and then she said, I couldn't go.

(02:13:22):
Play volleyball, no.
Somebody told on me, like Utah would,
bunch of fucking tattletails.
- Just squares.
- They love it, they love telling on you.
It's their fucking kink.
And then, we would get out of class to learn how to do dances
so that we could have a big fun Valentine's dance.

(02:13:43):
You didn't do any of this stuff?
- Didn't do Valentine's dances, no.
- And we'd have PE where you'd get under the giant,
they'd pull out the big fun.
- The tarp?
- Yeah, whatever that was.
- Yeah, I remember the popcorn tarp.
- The popcorn tarp.
- Yeah, I did love that.
- Or you get the roller thing?
- Yeah, all right, I'll take it back.

(02:14:03):
- The luxury school was cool.
- Or you would go out and you would play dodgeball
and you'd get fucking racked in the face with that.
- Yeah, all right, all right, I retract that.
Elementary school was cool.
Everything after that sucks.
- Yeah, it was hard.
- Jewel.
- It was when you start trying to look cool and be cool
and pick up girls and was like, oh my god.
- horrendous, that was really hard.
I feel like junior high was really hard
'cause everybody wanted to fight all of a sudden.

(02:14:25):
- Yeah, yeah, there was a risk now.
- Now all of a sudden, it was like,
I'm gonna get beat up in front of people.
So there's like a humiliation thing
that was part of it.
- Yes.
- It was so fucking weird.
And then I remember finally getting to high school
and being like, I was like, that's embarrassing.
Why would we do this?
We're girls, we're gonna go out and fucking fist fight.

(02:14:45):
How embarrassing is that?
Never, never again.
I only fought in junior high, I never fought in high school
and I was just like, ugh, I hated it.
- We had it like any of it.
Any of that, like yeah, past, past.
- Junior high is the goddamn,
is the demon hellscape?
- Yeah, junior high was like,
when I was like, didn't like it, man.

(02:15:07):
- No, it was awful.
- And then for us, it was, you know, elementary school
was cool, it's like you had your little tight group
of friends and people in your class.
Maybe didn't get along with everyone, didn't matter.
But then junior high, they start mixing all the schools
and now it's like this whole other world
and just hated it.
I just fucking hated it.
- I feel like seventh grade was okay

(02:15:27):
'cause you're still kind of a kid
and you were still getting it.
- It sounds great, it was a sharp, steep decline for me.
- Yeah, I felt like I was okay-ish
and then AIDS grade hit and it was just like, ugh, it's just,
and I knew I had a whole other year
and years felt like decades horrendous.
- Yeah, this fucking--
- Kind of like this year.

(02:15:48):
(laughing)
- Yeah, seventh grade, I remember,
'cause I had never had problems with people, you know?
- Yeah. - And then seventh grade,
I was like--
- Always having a problem.
- Having problems and like this dude,
Ben, I wanted to fight him
because he was such a jerk off
and then he stabbed me in the arm with a pencil
and I still got the piece of lead in me to this day.

(02:16:08):
(laughing)
And then this guy Richard was like,
fuck it with me and I fucking tackled him
in the hallway and the teachers came and broke it up.
I just was like, this wasn't me, man.
Like I don't like this.
- Yeah.
- I just, I don't know, I just,
called me fucking crazy.
I just thought everything after,
everything after sixth grade was shit.
- Yeah.

(02:16:29):
- And then you got into high school,
it was like a tiny bit better in that being.
- Which got a car, that's when I was like,
okay this is cool.
- Yes.
- But it's like, that's a rough go, man.
That transition period sucks.
- Yes, it's awful.
- Yeah, and like you can enjoy, it wasn't, you know,
it's one seventh grade hit, it wasn't,
oh I got home, now I get to watch cartoons
and Beetlejuice, like that was gone now.

(02:16:50):
- Yeah.
- I'm playing with action figures anymore.
It's just me going home and be like,
oh my god, how am I gonna get a girl to kiss me?
- Ben was the stab me, you know.
- I think I'm gonna be in a fight tomorrow.
(laughing)
- It was so awful, so awful.
- Like, oh why was it so terrible?

(02:17:10):
- Oh, it was awful.
- Anyway. - It was awful.
- All right, number one,
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- Crazy.
- That was weird.
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Number one, Halloween by John Carpenter in 1978.

(02:17:35):
I know that's not your cup of tea.
- No.
- The music is though.
- Why?
- You love the music?
- That's Halloween. - That's spooky as fuck.
- No. - The Halloween song?
- No, sure, I don't know.
- But probably, I gotta, I really stress out about
the day I have to sit down and rank my top horror movies

(02:17:55):
of all time. (laughs)
Halloween could be the best ever.
- Okay. - It might be.
Had a budget of $300,000 grossed $70 million.
Imagine that flip.
- That's crazy.
- Most profitable independent film ever.
Launches a 13 film franchise,

(02:18:16):
most of which are dog shit, by the way.
Halloween too was pretty good.
Everything, Halloween three was fucking great,
but it wasn't a Michael Myers movie,
so it doesn't really count.
But then everything after it was just utter dog shit.
Then Rob Zombie re-did it.
Those are great.
Not everybody loves them though.

(02:18:36):
But yeah, it's kind of a,
and it's kind of a,
it kind of started this conversation
of psychosexual killers.
Because it was claimed that the movie was about
sexual frustration,
with a knife being the penis plunging it into women.

(02:19:01):
- Who said this?
- Just people theorized about the movie.
- Okay.
- And frustration of these in cells can't get laid.
- You know, there's nothing scarier
than a lonely,
horny man.

(02:19:21):
- Facts.
There's nothing more dangerous.
- Really nothing more dangerous.
- And now we've given them all these tools
to prolong that lifestyle with gaming and internet, you know?
- Yeah.
- This fake connection of social media,
they think they're fulfilling this need,
and they're not, they're just getting radicalized
by other weirdos.

(02:19:42):
- Yeah.
- Now the idea of Michael Myers was based off of,
you know that show Westworld that we watched?
Remember the Man in Black played by Ed Harris?
- Yeah.
- Well the Westworld movie from like the 70s
with you've all heard what's his name?
You'll Brinner.
The Man in Black is called the Gunslinger.

(02:20:04):
Anyways, he's based off of that.
And the mask itself was based off of
William Shatner's Captain Kirk mask.
That's what that mask is.
- Oh okay.
- So you know, William Shatner kind of part of this too.
- Full circle.
- So there you go.
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(02:20:24):
you can get at cultsimbalism.com.
- I don't think that's the top one.
It's like the least.
- It's the most Halloween movie in my opinion.
- More than exorcism?
- Yeah.
'Cause it's literally called Halloween,
and it's all like based on Halloween time frame,
and there's kids trick or treating,
and pumpkins everywhere.
- Okay.

(02:20:44):
- And the music, it's just perfect.
- What about lost boys?
- That's pretty good.
It's an honorable mention.
- What about the exorcism of Emily Rose?
- Emily Rose, honorable mention.
I give you that.
- That was a good one.
- It's a good one too.
- There's a bunch, you know?
- Oh, my fucking number one.

(02:21:06):
My easily Dracula.
- Oh, Brad Stoker.
- Yeah.
- Okay, that's a good one.
That might belong on my top 10.
I didn't think about that one.
- Horny.
- You think it's your number one?
- I don't know.
- Oh, okay.
- No, I just, I'm off the dome, man.
You're just, you're saying stuff that I'm thinking.
- Okay.

(02:21:27):
I mean, I respect that.
It is a great one.
- I actually don't love stuff the most.
- I know.
- Anything.
So, like Liz are actually really hard for me.
I like groupings.
- Okay.
- It's in your face.
- It's in your top 10 grouping.
- In my grouping.
I don't love candy the most.
I don't, you know what I mean?

(02:21:48):
Like, there's nothing that's my number.
There's no go-to.
I have like a grouping of things that I'll go to.
- Okay.
Yeah, Dracula's great.
It has good aesthetics in it, you know?
For Halloween.
- Yeah.
- Really stormy.
- Yes.
- Got a spooky.
- Yes.
- Kind of horny.
- Little horny.
- Yeah, it's great.

(02:22:08):
Then I got a 12.
Brighter's tits and that are outrageous.
- Well, don't a writer again, huh?
- Yeah.
- She gets two of the top Halloween movies.
- Wildly, like perfect looking.
Anyways.
- Yeah, like when I'm a writer.
Now, I've got a list of what I call the top 10
overrated Halloween movies.

(02:22:28):
These are the movies people say are in the greatest
Halloween movies and I say absolutely not.
- Okay, go.
- Number 10, does a movie called X?
I know you probably have even heard of it.
Ty West, who is a director that either hits or misses.
And this one's an absolute miss for me.
It's not terrible.
It's just not as good as people want it to be.

(02:22:49):
It spawned a trilogy of movies and I'm just like,
I'm not watching any of this shit.
First one's trash.
The rest of them are probably trash too.
I know people are gonna hate that
'cause in the horror movies they're like,
"Oh, it's great."
- Hey, did you know the new "Dune" movies out?
- What do you mean?
- Isn't there another "Dune" movie?
- No, it's not out.
- Oh, okay.

(02:23:12):
- Why do you think there's a third "Dune" movie?
- Yeah.
- I heard they were gonna make more.
- No, I think it's out.
- No way.
- I heard it on the radio.
- I was really just as early as it was in.
- What was in?
Not "Dune."
- I didn't see it 'cause I would have for sure been like,
"Oh shit, I gotta watch that."
- Okay.
- I love those "Dune" movies.
- I know, I love 'em.
That's what I was saying.
Okay, go ahead.

(02:23:33):
- Number nine, there's a movie called Lake Mungo
that people constantly cite as one of the greatest.
I'll never know 'cause it's too boring.
- Oh no.
What the fuck is this bitch talking about?
It was on the radio.
We'll talk about the "Dune" movie.
- They don't know, it's a radio.
They don't know what they're talking about.
- What the fuck?
December 18th, 2026.

(02:23:53):
- Yeah, that makes sense.
- No, that's crazy.
Okay, sorry.
- This movie Lake Mungo,
it's constantly cited as one of the greatest.
I'll never know 'cause I can't make it past 30 minutes.
It's so boring.
- Oh.
- Like, who watches this shit?
- It's so fucking terrible.
- Okay.
- It's so lame and so boring and dramatic.
I'm just like, okay.

(02:24:15):
- And I blame, I used to listen to the evolution of horror a lot.
I don't know if it was much anymore.
And the host, he always cites this as one of the greatest.
- How?
- That's fine, because I was on his Patreon for a while
and he didn't like that.
I thought Rob Zombie was a great, right?
He's like, and he's like super woke.

(02:24:35):
He's way too fucking liberal for me.
- Oh, okay.
- It's like everything's gotta be this.
Well, that didn't age well.
- Oh god.
- Oh god, it's a fucking horror movie.
You know what I mean?
We don't need to unpack the justices of this and that.
- Of 1981.
- Like, this is why people hate liberals
and I don't blame 'em.
I hate 'em too.
Like, shut the fuck up.
- I agree.

(02:24:56):
We can't take a 20, 25 lens and then put it onto any other decade.
- Yes.
- We have grown a ton,
and it's lovely and that's how we should be
as a people.
We should do that,
but we also don't need to look backwards
and hold things up to that light.
- I agree.

(02:25:16):
Anyway, so like, he's the one,
and that's the reason I kept,
'cause I-- - Literally,
we wouldn't have anything from the fucking 80s.
- No, the 80s is the fucking worst.
- It's terrible.
- They dropped the R word on a red.
- Oh, man, so those movies you had me watching
were outrageously inappropriate.
- They're outrageous.
- I mean, they're literally sexually assaulting women.
- Yes.
- Well, let's drug 'em and then fuck 'em.

(02:25:38):
- Yeah.
- Exactly.
I'm gonna go in there and act like I'm somebody else
and I'm gonna fuck her.
- Yeah.
- It's like Jesus, dude, that's assault.
Brother.
- That's assault brother.
(laughs)
Number eight, terrifying.
That's that movie with art, The Clown.
- I have no idea.
- It's ultra-gore.

(02:25:58):
Two-gory.
It's not bad.
It's not a bad movie at all.
It's just two-gory.
It relies on the blood and guts to the point of comedy.
And I hate that.
I've seen all three of 'em.
Me and my boy went to the theater to see the third one.
I was like, this is just too much, dude.
Numbers, but people love it.
I don't know why.

(02:26:19):
Number seven, jaws.
- Oh, I think that's boring.
- You seen it?
- I saw it.
- It's so boring.
- Okay, good.
I didn't know if I was just,
'cause I don't like that kind of stuff.
- It's bizarre that this was scary for people.
- I mean, and it's like the Beatles, you know?
I respect it, not really.

(02:26:39):
Sounds good.
- Yeah.
- Not for me.
You know?
- Okay.
- Like maybe you have to be the right place at the right time
in 1975 when it came out.
- Yeah.
- But watching it for the first time as an adult now,
this was scary.
- Yeah.
- What were you guys thinking?
This was around the time they made the exorcist.

(02:27:00):
And you thought jaws was scary?
- Yeah, that's wild.
- That's weird.
Halloween wasn't scarier?
Weird.
Okay.
Number five, silence at the lambs.
- Oh.
Really?
- Great movie.
- That's a great movie.
- Great movie.

(02:27:20):
It ain't no fucking Halloween scary movie though.
It ain't even scary.
- No, I don't think it's scary.
It's suspenseful.
- It's, yeah, it's a suspense thriller.
It's not even a fucking horror movie.
- Maybe that's why I like it.
- It's a great movie.
I love it.
I think it's a great movie.
It's part of this weird, what they call elevated horror
is what they want to call it.
And I'm like, no, that's a thriller movie.
- I don't know.

(02:27:42):
- Sure, there's murder in the plot, I guess.
It just doesn't have the fucking like,
umph behind it for me.
- For Halloween.
- For Halloween.
- Oh.
- It's that scary.
It's just not, it doesn't capture Halloween at all.
So when people put this on their list,
I think you're fucking crazy.
- I like it.
- I like it because it does lend itself

(02:28:04):
to like the true crime film.
And I think true crime is like fascinating.
- Totally.
- You know, so I like that.
Maybe if you were a thick woman in the 90s,
you would have been a little bit,
thought that was a little bit more scary.
- Yeah.
I mean, classic movie for sure.

(02:28:26):
- Great line.
- From the fucking,
do fuck me, I fuck me, hard.
Number four, you haven't seen this either.
Evil Dead 2.
1987, I absolutely low than hate a horror comedy
more than anything on the planet.

(02:28:47):
It's, you know how you're talking about how you go down
the slushy machine and put everything in the cup.
That's what a horror comedy is for me.
It's like, who are you satisfying with this?
Nobody.
This is so stupid.
The original evil Dead was fucking fantastic.
That's the bummer of it is the original one
was fucking great.
- So the original, this was like number two or what?

(02:29:08):
- Yeah, and he made it a comedy.
- Oh, weird.
- Like it was campy and corny and people love it.
Oh, they love it so much.
They love army of darkness.
Oh, it's so funny.
Like cool, it's a comedy then, right?
No, it's a horror.
No, it's not.
It's a fucking comedy.
- Yeah.
- Keep it out of my shit.
(laughing)
Call the comedy next, that's what the fuck it is.

(02:29:29):
It's like Sean of the Dead.
I like Sean of the Dead.
- I think it's a great movie.
- When you're saying that, I'm thinking Sean of the Dead.
- Sean of the Dead is a great movie.
- Sean of the Dead.
- It's a great movie.
It's funny, it's great.
It's take the fucking horror out of it.
It's a comedy period.
- No, that is not a comedy.
- Yeah.
- I don't know if I agree with you on that.
- I think you do those two worlds you should never collide.

(02:29:49):
- Was zombies?
I thought that shit was great.
- Yeah.
- You didn't love it?
- It's a great movie.
It's not a horror movie.
You tell me, "Sombs are horror."
I'm like, "Okay, I'm ready for that."
And then it's full of jokes and shit, lighthearted.
And it just breaks the fear, breaks the tension.
And it's just like, this is stupid.

(02:30:10):
- Okay.
Okay.
- This is stupid.
What are we doing here?
- I felt like Sean of the Dead still kept the tension.
Like when they all got into the pub.
And they're trying to break through the doors
and they start beating them with the sticks.
- They're playing Queen.
- Yeah, they're playing Queen.
I should have said hilarious.
- Absolutely.
I guess I did.

(02:30:31):
I think it's a great movie.
- I did that fucking like, eat them and like rip people apart.
And I was like, "Jesus, it was wild."
I felt like Sean of the Dead.
- Me, man.
- Yeah.
- Sean of the Dead did that perfect.
- Totally.
I'm just saying, keep it off the horror list.
- It's okay.
- 'Cause it ain't.
- Well, I don't know about that.
That one goes on my list.
I like Sean of the Dead.
- Okay, my top three's gonna piss off absolutely everybody.

(02:30:53):
- Okay, let's go.
- I'm here for number three.
And this is gonna be fightin' words.
- Okay.
- "Hocus Pocus."
- How fucking dare you?
- Overrated.
It's, this is not a good movie.
- Overrated, it, yeah.
Okay, here's the thing.
"Hocus Pocus" is a child's movie.
- Total, total.

(02:31:14):
- For children.
What are you talking about?
There's literally only nostalgia.
- I agree with you.
- Only nostalgia.
- I agree with you on all that.
It just, it picks up the 90s, like fucking perfection.
It transforms me back to grade school, like,
and like, nothing else.

(02:31:36):
It's phenomenal.
- That's great, I love that.
- Yeah, you just didn't watch it when you were a kid.
- No.
- Okay, so that's why it doesn't hit for you.
- I do appreciate the 90s nostalgia live too.
- But I think it doesn't.
- It doesn't, it's terrible.
- That's an adult who's also hardin' from a life
of watching awful horror movies and brutal shit.
- Yeah, I agree.
- I understand why.

(02:31:58):
It's not, but it's Halloween, it's not horror.
- Yeah, total, that's fair.
I do like that the filming location was real and Salem.
That's cool.
It's got a dream and chrome references.
And if anyone hasn't heard my "Hocus Pocus" film analysis
on my other podcast, I'm gonna put a link in the show.

(02:32:18):
Now it's, you're gonna be in for a real fucking treat.
- That was a good one.
- 'Cause it was a banger.
- Yeah.
- One of my best, I'd argue, best episodes ever.
Number two, scream from 1996.
- Yeah, I didn't give a shit about that.
Everybody loved it.
- They did.
- Now, let me just tell you, in the spicy realm,
sexy men wearing the scream mask, what is that mask called?

(02:32:42):
- Ghost face.
- Ghost face mask, make it like shirtless and all like naughty.
- Mm-hmm.
- It's nice.
(laughs)
- It's very fun to watch.
- And I'll say it's a decent movie.
Like it's not bad.
- I don't know the movie.

(02:33:03):
- But I can tell.
- I'm just purely talking horny.
What do they call those?
Thirst traps.
Only a thirst-trapting.
- What is that about?
Guys are ripped and shit and they're wearing a mask.
- Yeah, super ripped.
- We're in a mask saying crazy stuff or doing crazy stuff.
- Sexy.

(02:33:24):
- Very fun.
- Well, I can tell how old someone is if they tell me
that scream is the best horror movie of all time.
- Yeah.
- I can tell there are like a mid-millennial.
- Okay, okay.
- 'Cause for whatever reason, my age, I grew up with
a different ilk of horror movie.
And when I saw a scream, I was like, really?

(02:33:45):
- Yeah.
- And then I rewatched it because I wanted to watch
all of them because everyone keeps talking about it.
It's like these are the greatest horror movies
because they remade them.
And I watched the original again like a year ago.
- They remade them.
- Yeah, they're like rebooting it right now.
- Rebooting it meaning like they have all new cast

(02:34:05):
and everything.
Isn't the guy that was in Scooby Doo in this
and Salt Lake City post?
- Matthew Lillard, yes.
- He's great.
- He is great.
I love Matthew Lillard.
- Okay.
- It's in Twin Peaks also.
- No.
- No.
- No.
The guy that was in Salt Lake City punk.
- Yeah, Matthew Lillard.
- In what season?

(02:34:27):
- Season three.
- Oh, okay.
- You haven't seen any of it, huh?
- Yeah, no.
- Oh, okay.
Yeah, he's in season three.
- Okay, gotcha.
- But yeah, you know, and it's all star cast.
It's just, it's too big budget for me.
I guess, I don't know what it is.
Directed by Wes Craven, who's great.
Like you said, Matthew Lillard's in it.

(02:34:47):
Rosemaking Allen, David Arquette, Courtney Cox,
Drew Barrymore.
But as overrated as a movie could be, I think.
'Cause Wes Craven used his own formula from New Nightmare,
which is the same fucking story and repackaging people.
Like, oh, this is the greatest.
Like, dude, this was already done.

(02:35:09):
We already did this, didn't we?
- I don't know what you're talking about.
- Yeah.
It's, just know it's overrated.
- Okay, got it.
And then my top most overrated Halloween movie
brought to you by most rum and naughty watcher coffee
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Can you believe it?
Trick or treat?

(02:35:33):
You probably never seen that either.
- Now.
- And again, I can tell how old you are
when you tell me this is a great movie.
You're early Gen Z.
'Cause it's not, it's a terrible movie.
It's an anthology, which normally I like those.
I like anthology movies like Creep Show, Tells From The Crypt.
This one ain't it cheap.
This one's shit.
It's terrible.

(02:35:54):
It's one of the fucking most painful movies
I've ever had to watch.
- I couldn't even put sleep away camp.
- I like sleep way camp.
- Yeah, where does that one go?
- It's on an honorable mention.
- Yeah.
- It's good.
The trick or treat, boy, I don't know what people see in it.
I don't get it.
They absolutely eat it up in the same way

(02:36:14):
that mid-millennials eat up scream.
I mean, Brian Singer is the producer,
which should tell you everything you need to know.
- I know.
- He's a guy that like,
essayed a bunch of underage boys and shit.
Allegedly, he got a bunch of allegations about it.
- Oh, jeez.
- He filmed all the X-Men movies and shit.
- Oh my God.
- It's just, it's a shit movie and people think it's great.
And I think they're wrong.

(02:36:35):
And I think it's, and you will see, unless this is the top
Halloween movie of all time,
and they're absolutely fucking out of their mind.
'Cause I don't get it.
And that's it.
That's all I got.
- Very good.
- That's my Halloween mega countdown special.
- Extravaganza.
- And extravaganza.
Now what I'd like to do on the next episode

(02:36:56):
is people keep asking me to do a whole episode
where I talk about all the ghost hunting stories.
- Okay.
- Back when we used to ghost hunt.
Mm-hmm.
I feel like I've told all of them,
but I'm gonna compile the list of all of them
and we'll just go through them all.
- Okay.
- Because people keep asking me for it.
I don't know why.
- Only are we talking about all the ghosty stuff

(02:37:18):
or are we talking about?
Okay.
- So if you got any, we'll collaborate
and see if I'm missing any.
- Okay.
- So stay subscribed.
'Cause I'm hoping that'll be the next show
that we'll get out.
- We gotta talk about headgeens.
- Yeah, I also wanna talk about the headgeen monster
show Netflix.
Got a bunch of hot takes for that.

(02:37:38):
- Yeah.
- So stay subscribed to the show folks, all right?
And if you love the show, if you like the show,
leave a five star review.
If you love the show, patreon.com/braggingsocialnorms.
Add free early access.
Bonus content.
It's great.
You're gonna love it.
And the chat with Josie is just immaculate.
You're gonna love it.
Get in the chat on the Patreon and tell us.

(02:38:02):
Where do you agree with this?
- Tell me how annoying I am.
- Tell her how annoying she is.
(laughs)
And tell her.
'Cause I wanna know what you guys think about
the top 10 of all this shit.
What do you think about the can,
what are we missing on the candies?
What are we missing on the Halloween songs?
What are we missing on the Halloween movies?
Tell me, tell her, she'll tell me.

(02:38:22):
'Cause she'll tell me, hey, so and so, it says, so and so.
Hey, Richie says Trick or Treat to Grey movie.
'Cause she's an idiot.
No, I'll just get Richie.
But you know what I mean?
She relays the info over to me.
So join the Patreon if you wanna get real intimate
with us like that, okay?

(02:38:43):
All right, thanks for listening to this.
Have a happy Halloween and until next time.
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