Joe Rogan & Anna Luna: UFO Disclosure, Book of Enoch, & MKULTRA Operation Paperclip Conspiracies!

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Representative Anna Polina Luna sat down with Joe Rogan for one of the wildest soft disclosure interviews yet mixing

(00:07):
UFOs
Interdimensional entities the book of Enoch and even Nazi MK Ultra scientists from Operation Paperclip from claims of seeing classified alien photos in a
Skiff to conspiracies about JFK Epstein and MK Ultra
Luna is pushing yourself as the Christian face of disclosure is this authentic truth telling or just the

(00:29):
next wave of state sponsored siops dressed up as conspiracy candy join us on breaking social norms where wacky conspiracy theorist Isaac
Wiseau breaks down what's going on behind the scenes of reality to his lovely Normie wife Josie
Candy
Candy
Uh, well

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First let's talk
Housekeeping
No
No?
Not crazy
Why does the right and Trump
Especially
Rightly

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Why do they have hot young women
Talking about all of this stuff is it that are you guys that
Simple
Yes
It keeps our attention
I don't know how I don't have I
Would think I'd be above that, but it's easier to watch a pretty woman lie to me than an ugly woman, you know

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Now you guys get real mad about ugly women. Oh get your ugly. You're hurting my eyes. I
Want to see tips
Whatever, you know, yeah, but there's some truth to it like I you'd be lying if you know you go on TikTok
You'll find some granola woke dudes up there who be like
Oh, there's no difference and I'm like could you elevate yourselves to I mean like I get it

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I like to see beautiful men, but like something there's something in me that when I see a beautiful only beautiful men
Talking to me about the things that I like it feels like manipulation Gavin Newsom
Gavin Newsom is old. He would not his he would not
There's no crossover there for the right wing. He's a good-looking man

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But he's an older man. That's not what the right does
I know what you mean because they're the conservatives particularly in maga. They're very hard in the paint with the hot chicks
Giving you the siops. Yes
Like to me if I saw like when I see on TikTok because there are men that go on TikTok that make content that

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Say the things that women love to hear and I love it like it's not that I don't enjoy it
I definitely enjoy it
But when I listen I listen and I'm like this is a manipulation like they are just trying to get clicks
Yeah, and and to me it it's almost like
Um

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It makes me slow down in second guess what they're feeding me
But not men not right wing
right wing
people
Don't look at the shiny object and say who this feels like a manipulation because like even in this context like when we were watching her interview on

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The name we shall not say
What Joe Rogan yeah, fuck him. Oh come on that's a roll. Yeah, I don't like
The piece of shit so
Agreed to disagree. I don't give a shit. That's fine. I don't care. You don't have to agree with the thing I like Joe Rogan
But I do think he's part of the state sponsored chill. Yes of

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Maga
So anyway, so if what was I think?
What was I think
You're saying when she was on oh when I'm sitting there watching it and I'm not like I'm watching her and I'm like it's always a pretty young
Republican

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What the fuck makes the medicine go down smoother
It to me it immediately makes me think of manipulation
Not that I don't enjoy it. I do enjoy it, but when you're packaging it up too pretty
It it doesn't feel like content. It doesn't feel like knowledge. It feels like sugar
Okay, and to me it makes me like oh, okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna slow down and watch this a little bit

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Someone fed you broccoli, but it tasted like pepperoni pizza. You'd be like well
There's something really wrong with this broccoli
You wouldn't say oh my god. This is the best broccoli. I've ever tasted. Yes
Give me more. Why does it like the like the cotton candy grapes at the Costco? I fucking love them
But why are they that sweet?
Yeah, yeah, they make me nervous. I don't I don't just buy them it's nonstop

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I love them. I would eat them nonstop
But I don't because I'm like there's something weird about why they taste like this
Nobody else that nobody else here everybody else is just like yeah, it looks normal. I don't have a good answer, but I will tell you that
manipulation is interesting they know what they're doing. Yes, I know that much

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Yes
Why didn't men hate ugly women?
Or not not convict not ugly, but unconventionally beautiful
Like you get fucking
Me like they're not the conventional yeah, not the not the thing. Yeah, I know you mean it's like they're more

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Irritated by them. Yeah, there's studies. I mean, I'm not making this up
There's literal studies that say that if you if you show a man a picture of a non-conventional beautiful woman
They get fuck they don't just dislike her or ignore they fucking get mad
It's bizarre
I don't know ugly fucking guys. We have to look at

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Lots and not only do we have to look at ugly fucking guys?
You guys pride yourself on being ugly you go out of your way to be ugly
This is what they told me on the YouTube live that you're a manhater. They told me that no I fucking love men
That's what's so crazy. I love them so hard. I read horny books. I love everything about them

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You guys don't lean on into being men. You're doing this other way. You're trying to rally men to be better men
Yes, you're cheerleading through
shame
For men to show up better is that fair or no?
No, I think what I'm doing is holding up a realistic mirror and saying this is what you guys are actually doing and it's not really working for you

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And it's weird. I don't get it. I don't understand it
I'd like to have a conversation as to why you guys are into it
Because that's why I always say it's like men don't really behave or dress or act
To impress women
They do all of those things to impress other men
Look, I don't have a good answer for you

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I'm not that kind of guy that likes a woman to fart in my face
So I can tell you what they like that. Okay, that's my fucking point. How many fuck how many how many women do you think?
Pay for men to mail them farts in a jar
Zero I would I'm gonna say fucking zero met we're weird. We're creepy and weird

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Easily manipulated. I'm a lady. Mo manipulated. It's up to me a pretty girl Joe Rogan the fart in a jar and mail me her dirty panties
For Joe Rogan's patreon tier 4 level. He's really missing out
I

(08:06):
Just saying you're fucking there's something off what is happening with the fucking men
I don't know we're weird and then I just because just because I'm like hey guys
Why do you like that?
Joe she's a fucking man hater she hates me like

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You lunatics, I don't have answers because I didn't come ready for the
The great gender debate that will never have
I just it's I mean come on
Come on I
Don't know I can tell you all I will say is that I just saying everybody when you see a shiny pretty thing

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Feeding you information
Question it a tiny fucking it. She's she's the angel of light
That the Bible warns us about right?
Just slowed out a little bit that's all I'm saying when they show the devil the devil is never ugly right no

(09:13):
well
Al Pacino in devil's advocate
he was kind of like
But this is a thing like what women find attractive when what men find attractive he was it
Totally gross
But he wasn't like hot he does all right. He was banging that young pretty girl that all the old boomers are passing around

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Would and Bill Mahern
What what is a a depiction of the of the devil but dresses a woman I
Think it was bedazzled
Oh, yeah with the man was early Liz Hurley in it. Yeah
We get fucking old Al Pacino and you get fucking lit what's her name?

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Liz is early Liz Hurley
How dare they do you know what I mean? Hey, thank you
That's outrageous. I don't make these movies make you we couldn't have young hot Al Pacino. We had to have old
Fucking gross Al Pacino. Oh, I'll be one scar face. Yes

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Jesus, I just you know not fair. I was all I'm saying not fair
Okay, go ahead anyways. Let's talk about this
Aliens there's a
Yeah
There's a new interview with Leo de Caprio that I'm reading. Oh, did you see any of that? No the news of course

(10:44):
Loms on the one part of it and
Obsesses over one quote. Okay
Which will you say well first let me lob this since we're in the housekeeping mode
I'm gonna ask you a question don't think about it
You have to say that first like thing that comes to your mind as the right answer. I'm not good at this
I have a tension deficit. Go ahead. We're playing a game. All right. Do it

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What is the age that you feel like you are
Right now
32
Oh my god, what that's exactly what Leo de Caprio said oh weird
I'm so much in common
but the the

(11:31):
But
The caveat to that is we don't have children
And so it's harder to leave you don't have chill. Yeah same wait, but I don't I don't fuck 20 year old boys
But what if you had the option to do that? I don't I don't think it would be fun 24 by the way, but go ahead

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Okay 24 year old boy go off clean at
At 44
It depends on he goes for the youngest of the young though. It's not like he's like looking for a well-rounded
Current girlfriend is 28
Well, fuck me
I'm so sorry

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I just love the guy he can do no wrong. Yeah, I know what how old is he 50 just turned 50
Because that's the article is talking about how they ask him they said how old do you feel like you are whatever?
And he said 32 like he he got it got asked the question the same way that I just asked you
And the news me is like Leonardo thinks he's only a 32 year old man

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And it's like that's not really what the fuck happened there. So
No, but like if you don't have children and you don't have mile markers
It you
After 26 where you get like a you can rent vehicles who gives a shit it really does kind of like
Start bleeding together
The only thing that keeps you like recognizing that you're getting older is that your children age

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I don't think it's that you are aging besides the point that when you crawl out of fucking bed everything hurts
Like once you shake the cobwebs for a second then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, all right, you know
Yeah, cuz if we would have if we would have had kids, you know my parents had me when they were
I think 20

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And I was the younger one of the two and
So I was moved out of the house by
Third by time they were 38
So imagine if we had kids and they were out of the house seven years ago
That's the weird right? Yeah, that's pretty bizarre
You'd be like, oh a whole lifetime just passed that's weird

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But we don't have that so we have no clue. Yeah, so I mean to be fair to him and he also is a drug addict
And I think drug addicts lose their ability, you know like their empathy and their
Where with all of and he's in Hollywood, which is also
Mm-hmm. He's got a new movie coming out. That's why they interviewed him. I think he's stunted emotionally

(14:03):
From abuse and drugs and well, that's the claim and and the interviewer is the director Paul Thomas Anderson
The director of his new film coming out and the reason he asked that question is because he said if you look back at your history
To that age so for you
32 as well, okay, if you looked at things that happened that year you'll find that like there's something important that happened when you were 32

(14:26):
That somehow
I can't think of the words you somehow like stunted growth or some significant happen at that age for you and it made you
I don't know I forget how he words it maybe I don't remember when my sister's addiction started
That was pretty traumatic
Yeah, we have to sit down and do the math all that anyway

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Okay, let's get into the show right okay, cuz I got a I got a date with the leather face tonight at seven
All right, you know 4k release I'll go where I stuff. I don't give a fuck okay
I'll sit there with a little
Plus chainsaw
When I dick in the popcorn bucket you have your you have a scary what's my blanket that I have here

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That's Michael Myers. Yeah, I got a mic myers blankie
Skinny fresh that I'm cuddled in
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Smooth the way I was supposed to do the very beginning of fucked up
Now
The way I wanted to do this I think it makes more sense if before we get because I'm gonna recap the whole Joe Rogan interview

(16:01):
Okay
But first I want to talk about who
Representative Anna Paulina Luna is cuz I didn't really know who she was I seen her before obviously she's probably the best looking congress person
We've ever had right okay
I don't know what to say about that
It's a thing right okay
I mean what's the best looking male that that dude with the eye patch

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He seems pretty good looking at navy seal dude. Yeah, I fucking him anyway
um
I don't know like it. It's not a lot of good-looking congress people
Right yeah primarily cuz most of them are over 80
Yeah, how many of them are under 60
You just you just looked it up none Jamie look up how many congress oh man, where's Jamie

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Okay
If I sell enough of this coffee we'll get a Jamie in the studio
Okay, representative Anna Luna who is she let's talk about her for about five to ten minutes
Cuz that's important we need to know who we're listening to here all right
Well, she is a Republican
Congressman

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Congresswoman I guess is appropriate
And I mean I can give you one guess on which state you think she's from
Hmm one guess one guess
Where are the wackiest conservative Florida that's right. Oh, okay
She's super mega endorsed by Trump himself as if

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Trump wouldn't endorse a beautiful woman like this right
Uh, she in fact she's so mega she introduced a bill when Trump took office this year
To add his big dumb orange face to Mount Rushmore
That's right Mount Rushmore they want to add hers she introduced a bill to add Trump's face to Mount Rushmore

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I was looking up how many congress members I knew you were I was one of the bigger reaction out of that when I was like oh boy
Sorry, what the fuck so yeah, right
Idiot. I mean this is the thing with maggots
If you look at the grocery bills and the gas lately the word groceries me
He's never heard of that word this word groceries

(18:19):
Can they quit sucking that guy's dick? It's so bizarre. It's so bizarre. It's wrong with them. I don't know the economy fucking blows
Shit literally literally I was bitching this morning. I want to wash the car one of the drive-throughs
Because I feel like getting on washing it $17 for the cheapest wash to drive through. I was like this is absurd

(18:41):
Who can afford any of this shit?
Gas is three three sixteen a gallon. I hope gas goes up to eight dollars. No, no. I hope it. I hope we all just sit
I can't take it anymore. I just want a big fucking horrible thing to happen. No, we don't just be like fine
We finally we're here on bottom. I'm still rooting for it. I'm like I'm rooting for the

(19:05):
greatest economy to happen. It's not happening. I don't think it's gonna happen either
But like if I had the choice between good or bad like give me good. I want good too, but like I don't think it's happening in this slow moving fucking
shit show is like
It feels like nails down a chalkboard at this point. It's like either give us a good shit or make us fucking

(19:27):
peasants. I can't deal with the in between. Oh, I see
Now what's strange is that she wrote a book in 2023
a
Christian kid's book
About doing like the right thing or whatever right. I don't know. I didn't read it. She's super into the book of Enoch
We're gonna come back to that. Okay. Was it a Enoch book? No, it was called Legend of Niranha and I I know it's a little bit of espignol

(19:55):
And I said Niranha that means orange. Okay, and I thought that's weird because she's like such a trump dick sucker. Yeah, and he's orange
And I look it up on Amazon
Sure shit the cover is Donald Trump as a orange
Cool

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I was like what like
Just find that offensive. I don't understand but whatever. Okay, I guess if you're hot enough you can call him an orange to his fucking face
I don't know. I thought that was weird. I was like this looks like something a liberal would have done
You know what I mean? Yeah
Whatever anyway, let's hear about her story though, right

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The story of the the child Luna no representative Luna. Oh who her okay
Her grandparents were immigrants ironically enough from Mexico. We'll get them the fuck out of here the fuck right now
Audio immigrants from Mexico and Germany
Uh her father
I think he was the one from

(20:58):
Germany. I don't remember. It doesn't matter. Okay
Her father was a drug addict did a book in an out of jail for assaults and all kinds of stuff
He was definitely one of the bad owned braze as they call it
He's her grandmother was on heroin. She grew up very poor. She was on welfare. Mm-hmm
She had a rough go, right? Okay, and then she joined when she was like 19 I believe or 18 she joined the Air Force Air National Guard

(21:23):
Okay, which she touts
All the time on her Instagram and stuff
Uh as she should right, you know, we love our vets. Yes
Um, even though she was a weekend warrior, but hey, you know you still you know, you're still in there. You're still doing okay little buddy
Um, she was an airfield
That's how people don't get they don't know that

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The real military
Don't really look at the reservist. We don't respect our reservist partners for some reason
I guess it's because it's like you're not really about that life, you know
Like oh you get to choose where you get to live and shit. Oh, that's interesting. Let's be nice
But yeah, so she was uh in the guard and she was an airfield management specialist, which I didn't know what that meant. Okay. Uh, I looked it up. I

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Sounds like the paint lines on the runway and do fog walks looking for garbage on the runway. I guess I don't know
I could be wrong. That's what it looked like and I was like okay. That's kind of a shit job
Okay, how long did she do that for? I think she did like
I don't know four years in the guard got out. Okay, but her husband that she met while she was in the guard. I believe

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was a
Combat controller which is special ops like he did some real
GI Joe shit, you know, I mean uh, he was also in the in the guard
So but still like uh, you know, I don't know. I'm definitely not gonna shit on that. Okay, uh
and
Interestingly enough, he quit the guard

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For refusing to take the covid vaccine back in 21. Yeah, that's not saying the guard is like that's not like some soft edge
Just it's not the same
I don't know you could quit
Uh
You can I've talked to guys they were because when I was active duty there was a guy who was uh they called it an art is an air reserve tech and

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What happened for some of these jobs that are guard or reserve you can
There's all these weird like things you can do like he would show up and like work extra hours instead of that one weekend a month thing
And do extra time because it's like I think a lot of them like being in the military
But they don't like the rules of the military. Uh-huh. And that's why they do guard duty instead of active duty

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Uh-huh because it's kind of like
Military light sort of, you know, yeah, and
Yeah, you can like negotiate to like quit
What don't ask me how it works. I've heard that though from multiple people because I when I was looking at joining the reserves when I got out
That was the impression I had was like yeah, it's like it's not the same

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It's like very flexible and I'm like what happens if like that weekend you're sick or something and I can't it's not a big deal
You just call in it's not that big of a deal
Why? Because you get points for every weekend you serve so I think you just have to like make it up later. Okay
I don't understand it but
It's why
Active duty don't
Respect our reservist partners

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Because it just ain't the same. Right. It's a completely different experience. Yeah
Um, what happened if you got sick?
Fucking your show to work
You show it to work the supervisor sees your sick and then they're like okay
I guess you can go to sick call and then you go sit in the hospital
Away for them to see you and then they're like okay, you're sick go home and then you stay in the barracks or whatever you know the dorms

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Yeah
But that was I mean my experience was still calling it in now not not when I was in
Also, I think as you get higher in rank. It's a little different. So I you know when you're starting out
E1 through E4
Uh-huh. They treat you like a child. Okay. I think when you but I got out at E4 because I was like fuck this
I'm out but if you stay and I think you get a little more respect and you can like

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Maybe call your boss. I don't really know
But that was the impression I had from people that stayed in is like not quite as bad
You just got to get past that that
um
You got to get into uh into the NCO status like staff sergeant and above and it's a little more
A little more chill right you okay, you know so
Anyway, her husband didn't want to take the covid vaccine so he quit

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Something along those lines
Uh, I'm going to read from Washington examiner it says in a and and now they're suing the Department of Defense by the way
Oh in a court filing Luna and Andrew Gambersky. That's the guy the special special ops guy that she married
The their attorney said that Gambersky was fired over his rejection

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Despite applying for an exemption based on his sincerely held religious beliefs
As a result the two incurred significant financial injury including the loss of health care, spousal benefits and survival benefits
As provided for by the military
Um, so what happens if you didn't want to take a

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Like a active duty person didn't want to take a
Vaccine vaccine you get dishonestly discharged and you're
Fucked yeah, that's what's crazy. It's like what are we talking about like they don't again
They don't understand how the real mill which sucks for me to say that about like me being like an Air Force ammo guy
And this guy's like a fucking real legit spec ops guy. Yeah, but it's like

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That's not how the military works. They tell you you're taking some shit
That's what the car track is getting in line and take the shit
Yeah, like in basic you line up and they hit you with a hundred fucking vaccines
And what the big stink when I was in was the anthrax series
Because my my buddy was like he was like dude
I'll they'll have to kick me the fuck out before I'm taking that and I was really scared about taking it

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But luckily when I got deployed it was like this weird moment of time where they weren't forcing it because they were
Re-investigating it. Yeah, cuz some some kernel in fucking DC
provided some kind of documentation of why
He didn't want to take it and became a whole thing right
But then after the investigation into that stop they again

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Resumed forcing everybody to take the anthrax vaccine
But I don't want to take it so why are they suing them then?
I don't know like that's just how the shit goes. Yeah, I said say this is what it is
It is what it is I I don't know why they're suing I
I'm not like saying that cuz I'm like well take the covid vaccine. It's safe and effective because I don't like that shit either

(27:51):
I don't think it works. No, you didn't want to take the anthrax vaccine. I didn't want to take the anthrax vaccine either
But I knew that that was my choice was either take it if they tell me to or get dishonorably discharged
And now you're fucked the rest of your life
So I don't know that it seems like some real fucking
I don't know like it's it's weird to me because the same people that are always beaten their chest about

(28:12):
Service to this country and all this shit are now
suing the Department of Defense because they were like why didn't want to take it and you shouldn't have kicked me out
It's like bitch. That's not how this works. Yeah, so like I don't really understand the
Motivation behind that. Yeah, it gives me a bad

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Perception of these two. Yeah
Right off the bat. Right. I don't know what to tell you like
That's what the military is. That's why you guys get
VA benefits and stuff because you don't really get a whole lot of say over your life
Yeah, and I'm gonna say again in case anyone missed it like I'm not saying that
Yeah, he should have taken it because it's safe and effective a lot of people got fucked on that and had to take this thing

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Yeah, I don't know what to tell you
I think that would have been a different conversation if it was a private
Company yeah, and I think they should let all those all the I think that they all the people that refuse to take it
That got um kicked out
Maybe they should give them I think they kicked out people for not taking it at the time kicked out of the military. I think so yeah really

(29:20):
Maybe they should re re look at that. I don't know I don't know the science behind how they prove what they got to prove
I think it sucks because like I don't want to take the shit either, you know, so
But I just but you also have to understand like there's no negotiating that's why it's the military
That's why it's like a very difficult thing and it's not a fun decision to make to join

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Yeah, you have to take the experimental fucking vaccine story
But they did this in the 20s where they were giving
LSD to service members when they were you know what I mean?

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They were doing all kinds of stuff like that's like unfortunately kind of the thing. No
I don't anyways go ahead so they're suing them
Moving on. She was at
Herbert field which is right next to eggland where we were stationed remember yeah
and
Stoopeders he's a he's a doing stoopeders is probably not he's a

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interesting feller
he was a
rapper
Quote unquote turned conspiracy theorist he'd he'd he joined the
2020 wave of conspiracy theorists do you remember back in the day when Republicans used to hate people that would sue companies
Yeah, remember everybody was all all up in a stink about that old lady that got burned by coffee

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Who if you watch the documentary she literally almost died she was on life support and it was permanently disfigured and had
Fort third degree burns were like it was black yeah
Yeah, cuz McDonnell has had been warned multiple times
They've seen multiple injuries from this coffee being too hot yeah, and like it was actually

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But like the that's a piece of shit, but the narrative put out there was like that old lady's hot
Oh coffee's hot. I never heard that yeah, so there that's yeah, not okay
You can't sue for that, but this you can sue for make sense got it
So stewed peers sorry stewed Peters sorry, I don't know

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So stewed Peters he was a
um now he's like a really big conspiracy theorist he has like a whole network or he's massive now okay
Which is crazy to me because
he
Back in 2021 he was making these claims that
Covid was in the water and it had snake venom in it and oh I remember this you drank the water you would turn into a

(34:09):
satanic fucking
Mutant okay, I mean crazy shit
That was some fun times that was the worst
There's the best of times in the worst of times
And that was part of it, but he
On his twitter I just come from
He was that a nowhere

(34:30):
No, he was always trying to be a content creator like he started out he was a white guy like was a rapper
He was a terrible rapper
And that wasn't really panning out so and and he was and he was a con artist too
Like he
lived with Jesse Ventura oh
Because your dream okay, he lived with Jesse Ventura's house open Minnesota

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and
The way he got in there was Jesse dead no, he's still alive
Where the fuck is he? I don't know all right
Probably down in Mexico
Cuz he's got a house down there, you know
He his son Tyrell
Befriend it stew be friended to his son Tyrell and lied to Tyrell about how his what did he say like his family was in Hollywood or some shit

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And he was living with him in a for a while, but then Jesse or Tyrell or somebody did a background check on stew and they're like dude
This guy's a total liar
So uh Jesse had to get him out of the house and I think even had to get lawyers involved or something it was crazy
Yeah
Anyway total con artist okay, I say that was zero hesitation

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But he was shitting on Luna
Saying that she was actually a stripper
In for a while in Beach Florida
What was the name of that strip club sammies was the one
We were familiar with
But down the street there was a place called red rose gentleman's club apparently okay, you remember cashes

(36:10):
No, so cashes it was I think this cash is guy owned a bunch of strip clubs all in the
Panhandle area there
Anyway, was that the bowling alley
I don't tie that up, but oh, no, that was a strip club that they just had that
Two-life crew concert there. Yeah, it was a strip club that night

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So cashes red rose gentleman's club
Is where she supposedly worked as a cocktail waitress. That's what Wikipedia tells us stupiders tells us she was actually a stripper
Oh, okay, choose your own reality there. I could see either one being true. I don't know. Okay. I mean she comes from a

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Not to like stereotype strippers, but she comes from a kind of a rough upbringing, right? Okay, and she's good looking
I mean she couldn't make a lot of money as a stripper make the money
I certainly don't care. Stu's offended by it though. Okay, Stu got it, but sure, sure, Stu
sure
Sure, still you've never been to a strip club. I'm sure I'm sure

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Which is weird because she's a mega person and Stu's totally mega so I don't understand why he was like beefing
I love I kind of love that
Maga starts eating their own now. There's been a couple times that I'm like oh it's melting down for sure
Because well because you got all these weird different interests involved you've got anti-semites like Stu
mixed in with these Christian semites

(37:40):
Like all these Zionists. Yeah, I mean it's just it makes for weird energy, you know
She was also in a sports illustrated swimsuit issue. She was an Instagram influencer after
The military I can't tell if it was like kind of during or after is before she became a congressperson though. Oh, okay

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Funny enough if you listen to the whole interview and you look into her
Aside from all this wacky shit like I don't know some of her stuff seems okay. Oh, she
Wanted to introduce term limits for congress people. I was like yes, I like that
She talked about how congress people should invest in stocks and she claims that she does not no, I love that good for her

(38:23):
Her in fact her and a OC sponsored legislation together to cap credit card interest rates at 10% wow wonderful
So I'm like I could do all this wacky shit and magas shit just be her way of like
Finding way to get into congress so that she can kind of do the things she wants to do maybe I don't know maybe
So I don't I don't uh have a feeling about her hard one way or the other as of this point all right

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Which I know it sounds weird. It's like
she's a mega politician and
Is on Trump's dick and all this stuff, but if you look at the actual policies
Besides wanting to put Trump on Mount Rushmore
Some of the stuff I'm like I don't know there's worse people out there. All right, so
Going into this interview. I'm like okay. She's all right

(39:13):
It's cool
So starts out
And and by the way, she was born in 1989 to put this into perspective. She's very young. Okay
She started off and they're talking about
She asked Joe Rogan if he's seen the ex files. I was like what

(39:36):
Like have you seen the ex file?
1989
Talking it is like like did you watch the ex files like you were too young for that
Anyway, uh, I didn't watch the ex files when I was younger. I did I know you did, but I mean I knew of it
I didn't see every episode because when you're that age you're like running around doing shit

(39:59):
Yeah, I was probably caught I mean a relatively small amount of ex files episodes and you didn't have fucking TBR or DVR
Yeah, there was just no way to catch her unless you're recording the things
You're missing them with a VHS tape. Yes, and a timer
A lot of moving parts the struggle. They'll never understand the show. They'll never know

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Yeah, I mean just a cell phone is such a game changer. Uh-huh
So she was talking to Joe they start talking about how
She was talking to pilots while she was in the Air Force that saw a bunch of things
You know entities and UFOs and shit and mm-hmm

(40:42):
So to put it in perspective if she joined the Air Force
When she was 18
That means we're talking like 2007 2008 okay
You know and ain't that long ago
And Joe rightfully so being the great interviewer that he is
Says well wait a minute. Then they have instrumentation to record it when they came back instead of just telling these

(41:07):
Stories and she says no they were you know older platforms like f15s
Now I'm no expert on aircraft, but I
Think that
All these targeting pods like the way they recorded all those uap videos for the Nimitz and all the new you know disclosure shit

(41:28):
Those go back to like 2003 I think is how those videos are because they all have targeting pods
That they use for inclement weather and to sort of use as seekers for you know
targeting missiles and ship okay
And f15 is a pretty offensive plane like it holds a lot of heavy payload

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I find it impossible to believe that they didn't have
Targeting pods on an f15. Okay. I could be wrong. I'm not an expert on that
But like that story doesn't add up to me. Okay, so right off the bat. I'm like mmm. I don't know about that. Okay
So she in 2009 she just paints the fucking lines on the goddamn run. Oh, that's my I could be wrong on that too

(42:09):
But that's what when I read the description. I'm like that's what she did
You're picking garbage up bitch. What are you talking about? I don't know about the f15
So she said that witnesses confirmed
Okay, then she is it but she's in congress now she's in congress now

(42:30):
And she's part of a task force to investigate uap. Okay. Maybe she does know
f6 or no you 15 f15. Yeah, okay
so
She claims that with this task force that she has talked to witnesses who confirmed that the entities
Were interdimensional meaning outside of our space and time

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Joe Rogan's like you need to clarify that what do you mean?
And she says well, there are energy things that can operate outside of space time
dimensions
And he's like well, that's pretty vague and she's like I don't know what to tell you that's all I can say outside of a skiff of course as always
And she implies that there's a religious

(43:15):
Trump likes that he doesn't give a shit who he's telling what to
Also bug me about all this stuff
Memo's in seating arrangements and shit in the Alaskan in well, that's whether or not
That's why they're not reading
Trump in on the aliens thing I guess
What's his name? What's the other guy? What's the other guy's name?

(43:39):
Pete Hague Seth is over there. Well drunk drunk tweeting are
Our plans
Who is the signal gate? Yeah, come on guys
So she implies that there's a religious element to this oh during the Joe Rogan interview

(43:59):
Okay, and she starts talking about how there's
Certain books from the Bible that were removed that talk about these entities. Okay. I already knew she was talking about the book of Enoch
Yeah, which later she confirms as the book of Enoch and that's one of her main points she goes back to
During this interview over and over the book of Enoch and how it was removed from the Bible

(44:20):
That's not necessarily true
um, it was never
It was kind of never part of the official Bible. Okay, so it wasn't therefore ever removed. It just wasn't included
Okay, however the early Ethiopian Orthodox Bible does include the book of Enoch. Okay, and it always has

(44:42):
so
Is she lying about that? I mean not really
You know these are three-hour interviews. There's no notes in front of them. She did a pretty good job
Okay, I'm not trying to you know, it's easy to be armchair quarterback and be like well, you're wrong about this and it's like
It's a little wrong kind of ish ish

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Joe says well
I want to know how these things are interdimensional and she says well that's going too classified. We can't talk about it
She says but there were witnesses there were events credible people confirmed these things move outside of space and time
okay
and

(45:26):
She he she says she's like have I seen a portal or UFO spaceship? No
Have I seen evidence of these things though? Yes, okay
And she says there's multiple historical events that go back before Christ in some of the texts
Which again, I'm like okay, she's talking about the book of Enoch okay

(45:47):
Or she's talking about ancient alien stuff and and Joe Rogan even asked her have you read Zechariah's Sitchan
Which is where a lot of the ancient alien theories come from and she says no
Okay
Which a lot of ancient alien stuff you got to take with a grain of salt. There's a lot of misinformation in that show
not all of it

(46:09):
Like what but some of it like the one that they always go to is
um
If you so christ white made a ancient aliens debunked documentary years ago
That goes through all of the claims the major claims that the early ancient aliens show was making like
The paintings of the virgin Mary with the UFO in the sky. Yeah, and Joe Rogan always brings that one up

(46:33):
and
That one is easily one of the most debunked claims ever because it's the painting is signifying the uh, you know
The light of Christ or something like that well
I mean, God, but is that what it looks like though or does it look like an alien craft some of that stuff looks like alien craft
but

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Like there's a light beam that shoots down and like that's supposed to be the holy spirit. Okay. But is it coming out of a craft?
Some of it looks like a craft
But one was the painting done
I don't know 1500s
Wow, but the the story of the painting is like that is God

(47:15):
Yeah, but they also like some of these painters with like
depict their gay lovers
At you know like these these artists so I don't remember which artist it was but they were you know they put
Like wild shit in some of the paintings like they hide

(47:38):
Crazy stuff Jamie look up gay artists hidden in paintings
No the gay the artist is gay like
I don't know and then they'll depict they will have their gay lover as
Jesus. Oh, like that's the face that they'll use for Jesus. Oh Jesus. Yeah, I don't know that I just know the ancient aliens when you dig into

(48:05):
The claims not everything they say is true. It's some of its deceiving
like I think it's
It's been so long since I've watched the ancient aliens they always talk about some of these
Rock formations that are carved you know with 90 degree angles in set and they're like these are impossible

(48:26):
No one could have done this without advanced tools. Yeah
Puma Pumku I think is the name of the place
and
I've seen a debunk of it that's like look this shit is basically sand you can do it right now. What are you talking about?
Oh really yeah if you watch the Christopher white ancient aliens debunked yeah, but it was basically sand how did it stand up to

(48:49):
Thousands of years of rain and
Yeah, that's good point. I don't know. I'm just saying that I remember watching the documentary and being like wow a lot of these
Arguments are kind of flimsy from the early seasons of ancient aliens
I don't know. Okay. We should do a whole show on it. Okay. I'd have to research it a little bit to have any

(49:12):
Defense an evidence of it all I know is that some of that stuff is pseudoscience
Okay, mm-hmm
Sometimes I I
Okay, what do you mean what well? I just think that sometimes like
Everybody wants science to be definitive and it's just not like that's why I support ancient aliens because

(49:35):
Science doesn't isn't the end all be all right, and some of their stuff is interesting
Yeah, so I'm not sitting you I'm not condemning ancient aliens. I'm just saying that
If you if you hang your hat on Zechariah's sitch and it'd be like all of the things that they're saying is true
Then you're also telling me that there's a race of aliens called the anunaki that created humans to mine gold for these aliens

(50:00):
from Nabooru to
Take come here every 20,000 years to take the gold that we harvest so they can take back to their planet for an atmosphere
And it's like okay, that's pretty fucking insane. Okay, that's fair
Right there
So anyway, just something for people to look into first white ancient aliens debunked watch it see what you think okay

(50:24):
Now she was let's see
She claims that during her task force down when she was down at Eglien
She was denied access to some mysterious event that happened at Eglien
And she was blocked access by these non-elected officials and
She tells the story about some general the commander of the fucking base okay, who was like you don't have

(50:52):
Clarence to hear about the event and she was like bullshit. I'm with the task force in congress
Give it to me
and he
Literally walks away
Then his representative comes back in and says a commander so and so went on leave and his vice commander is gonna come in and finish this meeting
Which if that story is true is insane and she's like that's insane. I've never seen anything like that happen

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And I agree you know, that's pretty insane. Okay
And she thinks that what's going on is that there's intelligence communities
FBI CIA that kind of thing okay going all the way back to JFK
Operating outside of congress and going rogue and that's part of this sort of UFO deep state thing
Okay, I actually agree with her. I think that's totally what's happening

(51:39):
I have no I know nothing to prove that besides like the history of the intelligence agency doing terrible shit and lying to us and
Doing experiments on us and
Breaking up subversive groups and it's like you guys are really getting in the way of the democratic process
You do know that right like that's treason to me
You know they start killing black panther leaders and and getting dirt on Martin Luther King Jr

(52:06):
Yeah, it's like you guys are the fucking treasonous ones. Yeah
And we're just gonna and they're doing MK ultra and dosing fucking people and it's like dude
This just wild. Yeah, how are we just letting this happen right?
So again, I'm with Luna on this yeah
she's seen

(52:27):
Photos inside of a skiff of things that she says are
definitely not created by mankind
Interesting. Well bugs me again is with the UFO thing is this constant question of is this just a grift
Why can't we see these photos? We've been talking about this for six years now almost

(52:49):
I thought they came out a few years ago
It to Congress and they were just like yeah, there's aliens
Kind of they keep they kind of keep saying it and whistleblowers keep going in front of Congress and being like but they won't show evidence
They can't show evidence got to be classified in a skiff
And Joe Rogan kind of goes off on this and I again
I heard a part of Joe

(53:10):
Yeah, he's like this is bullshit
What what makes you guys these guys think that
They have the right to keep
Basically the nature of our existence. Yeah
Hidden from us. That's fair
so
She says that the US government has never been clean with the public about all of this

(53:32):
She talks about how she says something about how techno there's
Advanced technologies that exist already that could change our dependence on fossil fuels
Oh, well, they'll never let that out and and I think did she let the cat out the bag as to what's really going on here? Okay
And they have a good conversation about well if that technology exists how do you determine who

(53:55):
Gets to work with it, you know like because you have to have defense contractors sort of work on this thing and then how do you decide who gets what because that's
A life change a world-changing technology. Yeah
She says that she's working on investigations into all this and she was warned that if she did do this stuff

(54:16):
It's gonna end her political career
A lot of questions throughout this interview of course
From me because I'm like okay, how much of this do I believe because
Joe Rogan has become sort of the state media on some level
The timing of this is super interesting of course because
It's an Epstein file cover up is still happening

(54:40):
losing a lot of steam though
Well, Maga has the attention span of a nat they only when it was
Dangled in front of them you know what I mean like
Yeah, I don't know that I don't know that this is gonna farewell though
I think he's just ignoring it and hoping that enough shit happens that people stop talking about it, but

(55:04):
I just I don't see how this is gonna farewell. I think I think people are
Wondering about this more. I don't I think just because we're not talking about the news anymore
Doesn't mean that people aren't keeping it in the back of their mind really I have faith in my fellow Americans Maga and such
I think I think that they're the the cult leader status is diminishing

(55:29):
Because of that well here's hoping here's open
She
She and then she talks about Epstein and JFK she brings it up on the show. I heard okay
And she says she's trying to push all these agencies to release all the info so like part of me is like
Maybe her magic spell is working on me

(55:52):
That beautiful woman
Talking to Joe Rogan. I'm like, I don't know
Maybe
She's saying a lot of things that I like
Mm-hmm. She is though in the way that I like it said
Fact is a fact
and
Joe is asking about why the government wouldn't show us UFOs and she says because it would shake up our world because all these experts and advisors

(56:20):
Did all these studies and they think that it's gonna be too disruptive
And that's when she says that she's read the book of Enoch
And that she's a Christian as if we didn't know that already. Okay, so what she basically says is this will destroy
Religion she doesn't seem to think it will she said that the advisors and such are claiming that it will

(56:42):
It'll be a problem
She doesn't seem to think so and I don't think I don't think so either and they talk about that
So they talk about how even Joe talks about how the Vatican already said that look if aliens exist
It doesn't change anything. It just means that we've got some space brothers that we didn't hear about in the bible
Or whatever which it's in the bible. It's in the Zekiel. It's in the book of Enoch
What's in what is it talk about UFOs and aliens and shit in Isaiah

(57:07):
Ezekiel or Ezekiel. Yeah, we're talking about the wheel within the wheel and the lights and the vision that oh
What's his name had
So they talk about how it would change the way we view the world through a
Variety of things one of them being this idea that people can channel UFOs into existence

(57:29):
Magic like what's his name doctor
Dr. Greer Greer Chris blood. So yes, okay, I mean that's what they've been studying all this stuff
Okay, and she's like and this brings the ideas of the power of thought and the power of the voice
And how we did all these experiments in the past she says project stargate specifically

(57:51):
What's project stargate? I forget it's the they were doing it at SRI
It was back in the 60s how put off and Russell targ and a bunch of these people were
Doing remote viewing experiments to try to make contact with entities and it went all the way up into through like the 80s I believe
A lot of supernatural stuff basically was at the CIA that was doing that like the minister goes. Yep. Yeah exactly. That's what it was. Yeah. Okay. Yep

(58:24):
That was quiet and my ice melted it's oh thank god. So damn hot no clinky clinky for the listeners
Then she cites the telepathy tapes podcast
She calls him the autistic tapes. I was like ah
Because it's you know what it is no it's a podcast. I've never listened to it. It's a podcast about how there's children with

(58:48):
Certain levels of autism that seem to have telepathic abilities. Oh, okay
There's I did see on tic-toc that they had a psychic ability like
Olympics and they had an autistic girl in there and she doing telepathy really yeah, so they had
I don't know had like of

(59:11):
audience member
Ask a question to her and they wrote it down behind her. Yeah, I sound like the telepathy so she couldn't see and it was like
What colors the sun and she spelled out yellow
What colors the sun yellow uh-huh. Well no shit

(59:31):
Well she wouldn't know that she didn't get told the question. Oh
dummy
So fucking smart I can do that
That mean the Olympics
But I laugh because I listen to probably three or four Joe Rogan's a year like that's the extent of my Joe Rogan life okay

(59:56):
and
100% of every episode I've listened to he talks about the telepathy tapes podcast and she's like
Have you heard of it? Have you heard of the autistic tapes?
I was like you don't even casually listen to Joe Rogan. What is this? What an insult? I bet he I bet that turned him on. Oh
Playing hard to get

(01:00:20):
But if you go I've never listened to them if you google it though if you google the telepathy tapes it tells you in the sort of canned response that it's pseudo science and there's no
Scientific basis for it. I don't know if I believe that you can that that's like
Okay, I don't I have a more magical view of reality and I don't I think that's probably bullshit. I wonder it will

(01:00:43):
But maybe I don't know I I never listen to the show
I'm not big into spooky stories. I don't need you don't like spooky. I don't
What is that? I love a spooky story. I kind of feel pretty firm that I believe in there's like a supernatural paranormal world
And like you're not gonna show me anything that proves or disproves it okay, so I'm like why waste my time. I'm already a believer

(01:01:06):
Oh, I see so
So she's basically saying that Alistair Crowley is right what there is magic magic is real. Yes. Yes
That the spoken word is the truth that has power. Yep. So the Bible says too
Let's see here

(01:01:31):
They talk more about this whole thing with a defense contractor being this deep state intel
thing
She says that David Grush the whistleblower guy he's working with the task force now
But he's also an intel guy which is part of the reason why people don't believe his story. Okay
Because that's what the problem with a lot of this is you've got intelligence officers

(01:01:53):
Who are coming out and saying like hey when I'm in these secret scroll meetings
They're they're telling us that there's a really UFO craft and stuff
And it's like well are these are you guys in on the op or what like no one really knows
Okay
It's not like the intelligence agencies have never lied to us before right

(01:02:14):
so
Then they talk about the age of disclosure documentary which is again part of this grift thing because
They were hyping this thing up before it premiered at South by Southwest back in March I believe
They were like this is the documentary that changes everything this one has to prove
Undeniable they were hyping this thing up so hard okay

(01:02:37):
And to the point where I'm still waiting to see it. I'm like when's this thing dropping so I can buy it and watch this thing
Uh-huh, but they talk about it on Joe Rogan and he even says like well
There's no footage on it, but the testimony is really convincing and I'm like oh god here we go more this grifting bullshit
Okay, like this UFO thing is like the griftiest thing I've ever seen
okay

(01:02:59):
Oh see
Why did they let out those military
Videos exactly
Like they let some of it go remember the one that looks like a jellyfish
Yeah, like the jellyfish one and then there's another one that's like spinning on itself

(01:03:19):
Yeah
In the doll yeah, there's this why do they
Not show them like you know what I mean like we have some information why not just show your evidence
That's what's crazy is they'll show us evidence some of it, but then there's no
There's no like

(01:03:44):
I don't know proof behind it. I guess I don't maybe that maybe that's maybe it
It's not convincing yet
Right
And I don't know what it would take to convince
What's not convincing
Like the videos and stuff it's not we we're not on this consensus reality like they release these videos of these
Objects and still we're kind of confused and wondering like well, are they real or not?

(01:04:06):
Oh, right we're in this weird space aren't we? I'm not
I'm in the oh, this is real like they've have they've come out of
To Congress and said now there's
Aliens mm-hmm and then they've showed us some videos. They just haven't showed us all the videos
Yeah, I guess what I want is so do you believe that there's no aliens?

(01:04:29):
Somewhere in you that there's no such thing as aliens
I don't know what I believe yet
Interesting if there's aliens they're entered interdimensional
And they go that's what she says
Yeah, and that's what David Grush says too. He's talked about how there's a quantum aspect to this
but the
The thing I want is them to be like okay you got us here's the

(01:04:53):
Here's the hanger in right Patterson where we hold all the Roswell UFO crash and the bodies
This is what they look like here's the video of the
The autopsy we did on the gray alien bodies like I want that shit. Yeah, like give me that
Because I know that's out there if yeah, they have it if this is real do you remember that alien that they had on videotape like in South America

(01:05:15):
And he was making people sick he was like black and he was stalking around
No
Maybe I saw them like a show that's from that movie signs no no this is for real Z's
I'm gonna look it up like a black alien yeah like he was all like black and scary

(01:05:36):
Geez, I don't I don't remember that at all. I thought he was out in South America
It was like one of those shows that talks about
You know where they have like the talking heads that talk about the alien things that happen or whatever
I mean it was on Netflix. We were watching it one of the episodes was the children in Africa that was in Bobway
Yeah, that was like a big big event and then and then there was another one where they had this

(01:06:00):
Oh was it the one where uh
The director was there with the translator had big tits big cans
I don't remember that I don't know okay
Anyway, Luna says that one witness observed a massive red cube the size of a football field
Which I thought was

(01:06:23):
Always with a cube shaped ships a cube shape ship the size of a football field
A pilot saw this a witness she didn't say who is a pilot okay
And she goes back to this thing about she said why would the Christian Bible remove the book of Enoch from the Bible

(01:06:45):
And then she goes back to the Bible thing she was back to it again annoying okay and
She talks about how the Ethiopian Orthodox Church they use the Bible with the book of Enoch and she says that they have 88 books of the in their Bible uh-huh
And how they replaced how the regular Bible that we already they replaced this book of Enoch with a book of Revelation

(01:07:08):
Those are the things she said
Now I looked it up because I don't know how many books are in the Ethiopian Bible
It says online on this book on Amazon about it says there's 81 books and that it's the biggest Bible that there is
Oh, sorry, how long I think
I was looking for the alien

(01:07:30):
They have the most
Books in their Bible
The Ethiopians and she said 88 which I mean I hope that wasn't a Freudian slip because that's a very popular number for a certain group of people that don't have hair
What yeah, 80 so the the number eight corresponds to the letter H uh-huh and H H

(01:07:53):
Means hail you know who many mustash man. Oh, so the skinheads
So the skinheads use the number 88 as like a photo how to hair got it. Okay. Yeah
So um
But there's only 81 books so
So she was just off
She was off
Hope that wasn't a Freudian slip like she's really into that number or something

(01:08:16):
I mean when your maga I got to ask the question. Yeah, I wonder
So and I asked I so I saw the Ethiopian Bible as 81 books
I actually asked Chad G PT also I said are you sure there's not and a thing out there with 88 books in the Ethiopian Bible and Chad says
Some people say there's 81 some people say it's up to 88 books

(01:08:38):
I don't understand what that means
I mean there's got to be a definitive answer but the book about the Ethiopian Bible that I saw in Amazon said there was 81 books
So I tend to think there's 81 doesn't matter in this game of things. No
Again, she's doing a three-hour interview with no notes close enough right? Okay
And I look for comparison purposes the Greek Orthodox Septuagint

(01:09:00):
has 76 books
The Protestant Bibles have 66 books
Because in Orthodox we use the Septuagint which has the apocryphal books in the Old Testament that the King Daniels version doesn't have okay
But I couldn't see any proof of
The book of Enoch being replaced with the book of Revelation

(01:09:22):
So is Enoch in the Greek Orthodox? No, okay
And there was a lot of debate early on apparently in the early church about including the book of Enoch and the book of Revelation both of those were pretty
uh heavily debated apparently. We don't have the revelations. No, we do. Oh, we do. Yeah Orthodox uses the book of Revelation

(01:09:42):
We just don't because the early Orthodoxers didn't really want it to include the book of Revelation but they did
And when you do the the liturgical readings throughout the year
We never use the book of Revelation
Just because from what the priest told us is like they're like a lot of this gets kind of

(01:10:04):
Wulu kind of wulu-wee and it's like okay, so I'm going to have these
hallucinations a little bit and it's like well
We don't really know how serious to take some of this stuff and the point always comes back to you should always just be prepared for the return of Christ
Right, okay
Doesn't really Matt you're looking for all these signs and shit is kind of a waste of your time

(01:10:25):
That's okay. That's kind of what I said
The Christ and be ready whenever that happens
You don't know when you're gonna die. You don't know when Christ is gonna return
Be good you do you boo
So they talk about then they kind of shift gears to the CIA finding the arch of covenant through a remote viewer

(01:10:48):
Because it's tied into that you know the the Ethiopian Orthodox claim they have the arch of the covenant, you know
So they talk about that and they pull up
um
They pull up some notes from the CIA but there again, there's no proof of any of this but supposedly this happened
And the CIA had to remove your

(01:11:09):
Try to find the arch of the covenant
And what's interesting is I when I interviewed writer Lee about
Project Stargate which is the same thing as like remote viewing projects
And he interviewed people who participated actual remote viewers
um
He says that you can't specify you can't tell them hey

(01:11:30):
Go remote view into you know the Middle East at in Iraq or whatever like you can't be that specific with it
Because the second you sort of plant that idea in your head of what you're supposed to see or where you're supposed to go
now it's kind of
subject to like subject to your
Observer effect or whatever do you think it's like fantasy?

(01:11:53):
Maybe or like wanting to do like wanting to be the person that does the thing maybe
Beluna thinks uh she they talk about Indiana Jones and she thought Indiana Jones came out in the 90s. I was like oh my god
This is wild that's the wildest shit she said

(01:12:14):
I
And she she kept talking about the Ethiopian Orthodox is like is she about to return Ethiopian Orthodox?
She she met with a priest when she was in this task force. She swore on an
Ethiopian Orthodox Bible to become a congressperson
Be really she's really into it. Okay, which is weird that she's not orthodox. Yeah

(01:12:42):
Also the weekend each Ethiopian Orthodox. Did you know that? No. Yep. He donated a ton of money to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church
He was illuminate coming back. He's an American firm. See it's a sia. What?
Weird huh. Yeah, I don't know unexplainable
That's crazy
It is crazy. Yeah Ethiopian

(01:13:03):
Orthodox celebrate Paska with us and they were lovely. Oh yeah, they were huh. Yes, I'm glad they were Ethiopian Orthodox
See they were white for Easter
Paska and they
Came in and they had had a song they did their song. It was lovely. Yeah
Yeah, I wish I could have talked to them about the book of eena. I got in no back then. Yes

(01:13:27):
Okay
So all right, let's see where we are and then she talked about how JFK
Was working with the USSR to do a joint mission to the moon and maybe that implies maybe that's why he got capped
Which is interesting because that comes from a conspiracy book called dark mission by Richard Hogan

(01:13:47):
Okay
He made that I mean, I don't think it's specifically his conspiracy theory
But that's right learned about it was like that's one of the reasons I think JFK got capped
Because why because he was he wanted to do a joint mission to the moon to sort of unite the world together
But the capitalist were like no dude. We can't have like communist look good and then he sort of light

(01:14:10):
Oh, now you got to die. Okay
Speaking of which I sent Richard Hogan
two copies of dark mission to sign a mail back to me when I did his show. Uh-huh when he kicked me off
He never did I tell you this yes, and he never sent him back
Because I was I was like I was like broke and you signed one to Dr. Anne eater and one to me

(01:14:32):
I even put the the prepaid envelope with the cash in it to ship it back and everything
What a dick he never said it back and then strangely enough like three years later four years later
He replies to the email I sent originally saying here if you can sign these that'd be great. Yeah, he's like oh, hey
I'm looking for these books. Let me see if I can find them and then it was cricket's again for four more years

(01:14:56):
Okay, you know
It's a quirky community we're in
And I don't think he was like trying to screw me out of my two bucks. I just think he's busy and
Kind of sucks
So let's see here so she says she

(01:15:17):
found the
National archives document that connects mk ultra to operation paperclip
was to I don't know
Okay, it was paperclip. Oh, okay, so operation paperclip is when the
the
Boy my brain's getting mushy here. It's when the

(01:15:39):
So after World War II the American government wanted to hire all the Nazi scientists
For various projects in America and they called it operation paperclip
Oh, okay
There's a full story on this in fact if you want to we can go into it right now actually let's do it
So you got to go back to the not Nazi Germany. There was Dr. Kurt Bloma

(01:16:05):
Who was doing these biological experiments on human beings? Uh-huh
and
So he obviously like the twin one and they did a bunch of crazy stuff. Okay
He was so he was doing like research for
plagues
a dacal and

(01:16:27):
That there was all kinds of crazy experiments that it was going on the the Japanese were doing it too
There's the thing called unit 731
Where they were doing I mean like surgery with an anesthesia they were giving people plague and anthrax and frostbite and
They were testing full-on weapons
Flamethrowers against humans and giving them STDs like crazy stuff

(01:16:51):
Okay, and so we're the Nazis right they were the
Kurt Bloma was
They were doing like germ warfare and virus
You know, he was the one like that was figuring out a gas or we weren't we like given pregnant women
uh
I think they were give their town. I'm it was a multivitamin and it was like

(01:17:13):
um
Like radiation or something like oh yeah, I know we did the uh
Tuskegee experiment
Giving uh block the Native American black people sifless and shit, right? Yeah, so we were doing it. Yeah, we were doing it too
But one of the things where did that come from why what where did I even freaking come from?

(01:17:37):
The idea to do this kind of stuff. I think he's a meugenics that thought
or something but Kurt Bloma was
He was feeding prisoners masculine and LSD and stuff to try to like shatter their minds and see if they can control them
That's that's the origin of mk ultra comes from nazi germany
and the Japanese were um

(01:17:59):
employing bio weapons and
So were the Nazis right okay, so
When the war was over
Like towards the end there when we started arresting everybody the war was pretty much over
The United States wanted to bring these Nazis to America is like oh, they did all this great research
And Roosevelt was like that's a bad look. We're not gonna do that

(01:18:23):
um, but then he died
uh oh weird
And then the Nazis they're seeing that the writings on the wall and they're gonna have to go to trial to the Nuremberg and they start like
They start snitching and they start talking to the Americans and like hey like out if you give me immunity
And all his legal protection. I'll tell you everything about what happened and all this stuff right uh-huh

(01:18:45):
So they took like Kurt Bloma and all these
crazy Nazis to this castle in germany and
they
Would have files on each of these people and what they would do is they would mark
The Nazis that they wanted to bring to America with paper clips
That's why I called it operation paper clip and this is through Harry Truman

(01:19:08):
Because remember rose uh- um Roosevelt didn't want to do this because he's like bro
We fought these Nazis for years. We can't bring these psychopaths here. Okay, but then he died and in Truman was like sure we can
You know, because Truman was the guy who was there when we did the atomic bomb like he was a psychopath. Okay
So
Through operation paper clip we brought in over 700 Nazis. Okay, and they even went as far as to

(01:19:33):
Soften the biographies of these Nazis they called it bleaching them
So that they could put it on government contracts to pay to bring them in so it didn't look so bad, right
Like you there's there's rumors about like Werner von Braun was actually a pretty
Psychotic Nazi and was there when they were like hanging people and like
Then he's in these Disney fucking space travel movies, you know

(01:19:59):
But they were so far ahead of us with their studies of technology and bio weapons and stuff that in America
We're like oh we can get we can get all this this information
Um, so they offered Kurt Blumma who's like the true godfather of MK Ultra
They offered him to come to America because they're like hey, we like how you were experimenting on humans can you come tell us more

(01:20:19):
uh, but he he ended up
um, not
Not doing it, but he became a consultant all these people acquitted
Off of the shit, right right by the way like even the Japanese unit 73 one not one of them people got
Arrested in prison for it because just like Kurt Blumma like we wanted their info. So we gave him immunity

(01:20:41):
Tell switch you know sounds like g-lane Maxwell, right? Yeah
So yeah, so she
I guess finally figured out MK Ultra was tied to paper clip. I was like well, fucking join the party
I guess you know
These people think they're conspiracy theorists and like they're not really like you guys are new to the party man

(01:21:02):
Yeah, you're just placating conspiracy theorists to get votes
hmm, and you're not really about that action, you know
So she says
That with her task force she has been
reaching out to some of the biggest names in uophology
And wanting to bring them into a skiff

(01:21:24):
So that they could
Tell the truth about what they know and they'll listen
Okay, she says most of them get skiff flu and they don't show up
And there's a debate about like are these people liars?
Are they grifters or
Where they threaten do they feel threatened about this kind of stuff huh?
so

(01:21:46):
And you could you could argue either one of those points and I I don't know I
Some of them are grifters some of them are liars and some of them probably worth threatened to shut the fuck out
So the deep state the UFO deep state
Which would be who the military I don't know Lockheed Martin

(01:22:06):
Okay, no idea whoever's got the UFO technology
Oh, cuz they want to keep it for themselves. Yeah, huh?
That's the story okay
And they kind of keep going and they wrap it up and they talk about how
There's they're they start talking about China and they talk about these conspiracies about
China messing with America through social media bots and how

(01:22:32):
they're messing with our mainstream media's
And
You know part of this was trump was gonna get this great trading deal with with covid back in 2020
But then covid happened and like it was like some big conspiracy
Trump was gonna get what some great trade deal with China but then covid happened

(01:22:53):
Oh, and she even floats the idea that it was a bio lab thing and like what I'm like what are you saying?
Are you saying that like
This was just like a big way to fuck Trump over the covid back the covid pandemic
And it's crazy me because like this whole interview you've been dodgy about like well, I can't talk about these secrets
These are secrets yeah, and I can't tell you and it's like but you're gonna casually be like so China

(01:23:18):
Was part of this conspiracy to
create covid to
Shit on trump or something and it's like oh my god. He's not that cool. This is wild
Okay, so anyway, and then they kind of go off on that but in conclusion to wrap up this because I'm only interested in the book of
Enoch stuff right okay
If you look there are social media, I went back and a few years ago back in 22

(01:23:40):
She was posting about
Enoch and the book of Ezekiel and alien so
you know
What does that mean?
Back in 22. Yeah, she's a long time. She's an ancient alien to folk from way back. Okay. She's not new to this. She's true to this. Okay
now

(01:24:02):
But to me, I think
What's the point of all this? Yeah, you know
Is it soft disclosure? Is it?
Trying to get us to wrap our heads around this idea of contact with entities
And maybe they're even trying to put a little Christian spin on it to make it more palatable

(01:24:23):
Because I mean in all reality like that stuff's true like the
If you look at the history of Christianity and the book of Enoch is like they've been talking about this in the bible and Old Testament
And the truth is you can't get to making contact with entities without the book of Enoch because
this goes back to

(01:24:44):
Back through Aleister Crowley Jack Parsons John D Joseph Smith all these people were using the in Nokia and language
So yes, the book of Enoch is tied into all this
Magic is tied into all of this but it was before the in Nokia and language
Enoch. Yeah, the book of Enoch was yeah
Okay, because they talk about

(01:25:09):
um
You know because Enoch was like pre pre-flood and a lot of people think that
So Enoch was Noah's great grandfather
Okay, and some people think that he was metatron
Some people say that he was Hermes trismidgisthus. Okay, I you're saying shit. I don't know what your words mean

(01:25:35):
Remember we talked about both in alchemy like that this alien the Egyptian alien god that gave the emerald tablist a mankind
It was like hey, there's this thing called magic try it out. Okay, some people think that was Enoch
Oh
Okay, so he's the father of magic
Pretty much got it basically
So if you extrapolate all that it's kind of like

(01:25:59):
Is she say is she say that they're gonna do soft disclosure on magic being a way to make contact with entities
Well, she said it. She basically said it
On Joe Rogan which you know Joe Rogan is the new mainstream media
The mainstream media is the alternative stream media mainstream media died a while back no one under 65 is consuming mainstream media news and believing it

(01:26:22):
Uh-huh people get clips from social media and tic-toc and
What's all
Isn't it all bought by like tech people?
Yeah, the algorithm right no like the
Like oh the mainstream media that means to media is
But even if you're watching me you're you're watching billionaire news propaganda right

(01:26:46):
And if you're not watching that you're on
Social media and you're getting it from filter through content creators that what's their whole job their job is to get branding
And they have no souls and no no discernment whatsoever. They're like I don't know give me something to sell
I'll sell it yeah
Like you can't trust any of these people
And you've got the few people that their attention spans aren't fried

(01:27:10):
Will consume it on a podcast
Like this
Yes
shows that research other podcasts or talk about podcasts or Joe Rogan and it's like
It's a strange state of flux that we're in
Because we all agreed for many years that the mainstream media can't be trusted entirely

(01:27:33):
And then where do you get news? I know that's the problem and then
And then everyone's on board with it and now it's like they've got all these
Other suspect people that are the other news
It's like why don't know which one I trust less yeah
It's a it's a strange time. Maybe we watch news outside of this country

(01:27:55):
Al Jazeera yeah like Al Jazeera or the BBC
I mean they got their agenda too right
Al Jazeera I'm sure
I don't know maybe not maybe you take it from a variety of sources
And then bump it up against some common sense
That's not gonna it's like that ain't gonna work all news has to be

(01:28:17):
All news would be different then right like we can't agree on anything now
Yeah, it's insane
That's a weird time
Yeah, that was it. That was the Luna Joe Robin interview. What do you think about it?
All right, so her whole thing was she likes the book of Enoch
That's the shortest version. Yep, and she's super into the book of Enoch

(01:28:39):
And she believes in magic
She didn't say that but
Well, it's implied
I wonder did she say anything about Parsons?
No, I think she's too new to it. Oh, okay
She didn't know

(01:29:02):
Um, she doesn't know uh maybe I would I would assume she doesn't know
She's like have you ever heard of a show called the ex files?
Joe Rogan have you ever heard of ex files?

(01:29:23):
Yeah, one of that stung a little bit that she brought up the telepathy tapes
Or the autistic tapes that she called them
Joe's probably like bitch, I have talked about that every week for two years
You never listened to my show
Which also makes me think about the conspiracy that Joe Rogan isn't as popular as people think he is. I don't think he is popular

(01:29:44):
Are all streams bought and paid for
Like yours
Not this one. I don't buy I've been bought one follower in my whole life. No not on Instagram not on social media not on podcasting
And it clearly shows because I got to pedal this
Mushroom and not he watch your mushroom infused coffee get it now called symbolism.com. We're down to I think we're down to like 10 12 bags something like that

(01:30:09):
So love it. So what do you think you did this make you think
Anything I'm a big aniluna fan. All right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah big time now. No, I don't know. I I agree. I think
Anyone that good looking is suspect to me

(01:30:29):
Do you think they're just talking about this now to get the FC files off of the news? I think it helps
I think it helps
But I'm like you need to drop
Footage of the alien autopsy if you want to really like get us distracted because
It's all these UFO congressional file meetings that they're doing. It's always the same thing. It's like

(01:30:54):
Okay, more credible whistleblowers say hey, I saw some spooky stuff. Yeah
And let's like it's not enough. We need to see it. This is the age of information and videos and photos and yeah
But even if they released it would we say oh, that's just AI? Yeah
It's awful. I wish we could have had

(01:31:15):
The videos and photos before AI was a thing
You know
Yeah, but they would have had access to AI decade before
Yeah, that's how that goes. Yes, right in the secret little DARPA labs
At least 10 years before. Yeah, they got super AI

(01:31:36):
Well, like should we do magic or what?
Ha no not not in this Christian warrior household. We don't
It's making a pact with the devil is it though?
Maybe it doesn't say that it literally says in the Bible you shouldn't do magic

(01:32:00):
Literally in the Bible they're doing magic
Who is fucking everybody? No
The spoken word God speaks and is created right? God's the only one that's allowed to do magic. Well and then
um
The arc of the covenant
That's not magic. That's God. That's the power of God. God did that. Yes, that's God. He just handed it over to him. Yes. He didn't make him create it. No

(01:32:25):
They I think they found it that way
I don't think anyone created it. Is that how it goes? I don't know
Because I know he had to make that I know that Noah had to make the arc
Yes, well that's true, but that was there was nothing magical about that
About a giant about getting all of those animals on that size boat. You don't think that there's something magical in that

(01:32:50):
Hmm
Yeah, I don't know about that one. That one's a weird one to try to defend
Okay chat gpt the demonic AI says
According to Exodus 25 through 27 the arc wasn't just made up by man. It was directly commanded by God

(01:33:12):
Moses has told a mount side night to build the arc according to the pattern that God showed him so you're right
Man created it but then God
Is God's design but man created it? Yes
So what the fuck is the difference? Because you're doing God's will whereas magic is doing your will and that's bad bad bad

(01:33:36):
Noddy naughty naughty
I'm over here with the apple
Why is your site tasted
Did you women do?
So that's it that's all I got. All right, it was pretty good. Okay

(01:33:56):
So she said nothing basically no her her role is incrementally moving
Soft disclosure she now has dropped this
What did she say that was new about the book of Enoch being tied into all this people talk about the book of Enoch for the last five fucking years
Yeah, but this is a government

(01:34:17):
A famous person working a task force to investigate this stuff saying it on the new
State sponsored media Joe Rogan that
That the book of Enoch is part of this thing which sure the conspiracy people and uophologists have been saying this
But most people don't listen to those sources, you know interesting

(01:34:39):
So yeah, she's moving moving us down the path towards the revelation of magic and the occult being part of the UFO phenomenon
Which is gonna make my UFO books skyrocketing sales
Can't wait
People are gonna say wow this guy was talking about it back in 2020
Damn right

(01:35:02):
All right, well
Okay, I'm taking them doing the fucking bread crumbs. I am too. I'm so fed up with it, but I you gotta think
They're doing this for the masses the masses are pretty dumb
You know what I mean? Yeah, they gotta be spoon fed this stuff a little bit here here a little bit there
They're not always awakened as us

(01:35:25):
Now
Now to tease the next episode we're working on a horny movie
Wise Hobbs after dark episode
And I got a couple more movies to finish and then I'll be ready to do it, but you're doing it wrong
That's not what that's not my vision. I know you're vision

(01:35:47):
Visions here. We're gonna have a show that does both visions. Well, I haven't been watching horny shows
That's not your part of the show. Okay
We're gonna it's a two part two two themes of the show one is gonna be
Sexual awakening films. Yes, particularly for Josie specifically for Isaac. Yes

(01:36:09):
But on top of that I'm also because it got me thinking of like well, geez
I haven't seen all the 80s and 90s horny movies as a bunch of them I've never seen you have to watch um what's that movie
Strasers strip tease would demy more no not strip tease
Um would save by the bell. Yes. Yeah, I've seen showgirls showgirls. I've seen showgirls

(01:36:33):
You haven't seen it the fuck I have a comic lockins in it. I've seen it. Oh you've seen it the whole way through the whole way through
Oh terrible movie. It is terrible. Why that mean you were we watched a little bit of it and then you were like whoa
I've never seen this. I think I watched the whole thing
When that was me. Yeah in the last year
Let me look at my letterboxed maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'll only watch part of you only watch that one little part

(01:36:58):
I was like oh you're gonna love this because it was the pool scene
In showgirls which is so I think you were doing nails or something and I was watching it in the living room
Yeah, but you didn't watch the whole thing pretty sure I did
I'm almost positive I did. I'll know if my letter if this app would ever open
What the I don't you hate technology? No, it's the best thing ever

(01:37:21):
Anyway, my point is I'm gonna make a top 10 also a top 10 countdown of 80s 90s horny movies
Because people wanted to an end to hear what's number one. Don't you get it?
But I gotta have an ad I can't add to that you're gonna sit here and tell me if you've seen it or not and if you like it or not
Okay, and I'm gonna make you laugh

(01:37:42):
I got jokes ready
Okay, so I got a few more to watch I watched color of night with Bruce Willis how was that you'll have to find out okay
I watched fatal attraction
I watched that was with the bunnies right
Yes, okay
Oh my god, what's the one where she it was like a courtroom drama and it had Sharon Stone and she

(01:38:09):
Basic instinct basic instinct I've seen that but I mean I haven't seen it in a long time
But I watched it a while long time ago did it actually show her her beaver. Yeah, it did it did
But it's too blurry. I mean if it was like a 4k version. I'd like to see it. No, because I can't tell
She imagined she's like yeah, but she's sitting is not like you're gonna see anything she crosses her legs

(01:38:33):
That's when you see it
That's when you see that sweet sweet beef
I watched body heat that was the other one I watched and now I'm working on
Nine and a half weeks which one did you think I should watch nine and a half weeks? Okay, I'm gonna watch it
It's a banger is it did you finish it? No, I'm only maybe 40 minutes in okay, and it's good. Yeah

(01:38:58):
It's kind of freaky it's kind of like
50 shades of gray territory. I think oh, but not so fucking corny
That'll be that way you know what I mean?
What was corny about 50 shades of gray? It was just it was more like
rom-com female gazing
Whereas nine and a half weeks is less of that

(01:39:20):
So it sucks
I'll be honest the story so far. I don't really understand what the story is
So it's like awful and the woman ends up something bad happens to the woman. Well, I don't know yet
That's all of the ones that men direct are there like

(01:39:40):
There has to be a moral lesson for the women. Oh, maybe we'll see I
To finish it and then we're gonna watch in decent proposal. Okay
And I think I'm pretty much ready after that
Hey, so yeah, if you want that we're gonna be dropping that sometime soon on patreon.com/breakingsocialnorms or

(01:40:00):
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Max button and you're in ad free early access and the
Special series wise ops after dark that we do sometimes which will be this one
I got it. Okay
Secrets I got shit to do I got work to do okay
All right, everybody till next time till next time we love you. We love you

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