Sammy Hagar’s Alien Download, Lytle Creek Monsters & the 2025 ‘Crack in the World’ Prophecy!

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Today we're going way further down the rabbit hole than Van Halen and Tequila.

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We're going to talk about Sammy Heygars, alien download in Fontana, California.
His obsession with numerology and a psychic who literally told him his name
would be in the headlines all around the world.
We're going to connect that to the lightals Creek monster bigfoot sightings,
David Bowie's UFO obsession, the hell's angels,
Ultima an occult ritual energies, rolling stones, Mick Jagger, Kenneth Anger,

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and Sammy Heygars, 1977 song, crack in the world that calls out 50 year prophecy,
closing in 2025, ending in the 2027 alien disclosure and AI singularity.
It's all here. I'm breaking social norms.

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And why should you listen? Because I, Isaac Wisehawk, the world's greatest occult researcher
and joined by my genius wife, Josie Wisehawk, the normie who guides this show.
I don't know what that.
But you know what, aliens is one of my favorite things to talk about.
Aliens.

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I love it.
Everyone loves it.
And I want you to do a deep dive and figure out who the fuck was at the Miami Mall.
And I want to know, I want to talk about the Miami Mall shit.
Because that is bizarre.
Yeah, that's a great idea.
I want you to start reading that interview.
Interviewing people.
Like I want you to figure it out.

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Tell me what the fuck happened. I'm dying to know.
You know who's wheelhouse? That would be more in Tony Merkel from the Confessionals.
I did a show with him and Joel Thomas and such on the Miami Mall.
And when it happened, we talked about the Nepheline.
And he, Tony interviews people about the paranormal and UFO sightings.
And you know what, he might have even done follow up interviews.

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I'm not sure.
I'll have to talk to him about it.
Okay.
Reach out because I want to know.
Remind me.
Requiring minds wants to know.
That's a great thought because everything's so much as happened since then.
We've all just moved on.
But it wasn't any of the fucking news.
Like how is this happening and it's not in the news?
It's pretty crazy.
It's crazy.

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There's, you know, a central ownership figure of the news.
It's, you know what?
2025 for me has been, well, I feel like 2020 to 25 has been a freaking eye opener of how
much propaganda we get in America.

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It's crazy.
Great awakening, huh?
A great, it does feel like a great awakening.
I feel like a lot of people kind of fell into conspiracy.
They all went down the right wing weirdo pipeline.
By design, yes.
But then like the few that didn't are like, what the fuck is happening?
What are we doing?

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But then we got the, you know, the rest of us that are like, oh my god.
This is fucking, this is crazy.
Is that weird?
Like you just don't know you're getting the shit downloaded into you until one day somebody
comes and flips the lights like one thing.
It's just propaganda is normal.

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Decades of it, right?
Like from the 80s and 90s, we've been the same bullshit fed to us for our whole entire
lives.
And then one, they keep doing the same thing over and over.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
And one time it just doesn't hit right.
And it flips the fucking light, man.

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And then you're just sitting there like, whoa, what the fuck?
Do you think you're more red pill now than you were when we started this podcast four years
ago?
Yeah, for sure.
I think that I, and lately, specifically, yes, very much.
But I still have, um, I think some people get into this and they see the butterflies in

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the ink, blots.
You know what I mean?
Like they're too.
I eat me or what?
You, like everything's a triangle.
Everybody's standing on black and white, checkered floors.
But they are.
And yeah, but like that's a fucking thing.
Like, I don't know.
What are you talking about?
It's so crazy.

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So like it's hard.
It's hard.
Like half of it.
I'm like, when you're like, yeah, it did.
Every potter is trying to condition your children.
Oh, I'll magic.
I'll die on that fucking hill.
Let's don't even start me on that.
We should do it.
I'm putting that on the list.
That's it.
And I just am like, it's fucking a show about wizards and magic.

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Why does that fucking, what are you talking about?
I'll tell you one thing that's going to entice the listeners.
Okay.
How I will, I will destroy Harry Potter.
Oh.
Because the JK Rowling who wrote the book, I just talked about this on, I don't want to kiss
and tell.
I just did a show.
I don't know.

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I don't know when they're going to release it.
So, you know, sometimes I have this weird paranoia that I do a show, but I don't want to promote
it until they publish it because I'm afraid they're going to release it and be like, that
was shit.
Don't publish it.
Oh, you get it.
That's my negative self talk.
So anyway, I did a show and I mentioned this.
Insecurities, you know?
It's a real son of a bitch.
We're anxiously attached to everything.

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So, so Harry Potter came up, but JK Rowling, the author, let me back up.
You know the Baffamette that go with the Bob's?
Yeah.
You know, the Baffamette has tattooed on his or her or their forms.
They?
Uh-huh.
No, I don't.
Solve and coagula.
That's an chemical term and it's the philosophy of the black and white checkered floor.

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Okay.
So, posing polarities to create a new reality.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
And which is why you saw this conspiracy right wing rabbit hole because they're trying to
get people down that and then they want other people to go down a left wing rabbit hole
and I don't know.
They use opposing polarities as the point.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
And that's what that means.
And it's an alchemical process.

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Wait, I'm sorry.
Hold, slow your roll.
You're saying on the go with the Bob's.
These tattoos, their tattoos say that's good.
They're pronouns right.
Solve and what?
Coagula.
Coagula.
And that is a, that means a floor of black and white.

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Basically.
And then it also means why the fuck do you, you're insane?
And then that also means it's also an example of right wing propaganda and left wing propaganda.
Tie that all, tie that shit together.
You don't just get to say stuff.
That's the Hagelian dialect.
Make it.
So like what the fuck are you talking about?

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It's a Hagelian dialect in the sense that.
Don't say those words.
I don't know what you're saying.
Okay.
The idea is that there is a central controlling illuminati that controls the whole world.
Hageli.
Hageli.
What do you call it?
Hagelian dialect.
Hageli dialect.
Like everybody fucking knows what that means.
Everyone knows what that means.
No, they don't.
No, they don't.

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I promise you.
I'm going to do another poll on your little Patreon.
We're not going to, that is not the truth.
Okay.
But that's why people should listen to show because this is the way this works because you
forced me to break it down for people who aren't into this nutty sense.
Okay.
Hagelian dialect.
What does that mean?
It means I'll explain it as far as I understand it through the illuminati.

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Okay.
There's this side.
The whole crux of the conspiracy is that there's one group that controls the world secretly,
right?
Got it.
I want to create this one world government that's Luciferian and we're all going to worship
the devil and wow.
What do they care?
What do they fucking care?
Who knows?
I mean, there's a variety of theories as to what they're really trying to do.
But the consensus from what I understand is that this controlling illuminati group wants

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to consolidate to a one world government because you can control people better with a centralized
authority figure.
Okay.
They want to control everybody and they're going to use a centralized control system.
Of Luciferianism.

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Scratch the Luciferianism.
That's just like what I buy into specifically.
But.
Okay.
They're going to try to have a one world order, one control system to control assault.
That's what you're saying.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go ahead.
And part of this, and this is where it gets into more split in hairs of what you want

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to believe.
Now, are you talking about like the world?
Or are you talking about America and like Western?
The world, the whole world.
Okay.
Go ahead.
They want to create a world where we worship man's technology.
They want to rebuild a tower of babble in a sense.

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I heard the tower of babble is that isn't the tower of babble like where we would try to
like get to God.
Yeah.
And God smited us and that's why we have different languages.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go ahead.
A place where we don't have to rely on man who is fallible.
Like you can't trust a man to come to run the country because you know, they fucking chicks

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and like, oh, I just can't trust people, right?
Okay.
Which is true.
Like men or men and women.
Man kind isn't what I'm talking about.
Uh huh.
Like we're full of problems.
Okay.
What is this perfected technology utopia which is going to be brought about through AI?
You saw this in Westworld season.
I think three is when they introduced Raho Rahaboham that giant AI sphere.

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Remember the sphere that was like, same thing you saw in minority report where they would
do predictive cognitive precogs.
Yeah.
Crime stuff.
It's this perfect world, right?
But what it's perfect for them.
They want to control us.
Okay.
Okay.
So to take us down this occult road, you don't think that there's a control system in place

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now though.
Yeah, but I think there's a battle for them wanting to keep, you know, look at this.
Because this is what I think the propaganda is.
Like it's worked for a really long time in America.
I don't I think it's only been very recently that people are like, wait a minute, this doesn't
make any sense.
Right.
Well, like look at, um, drum.

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He made, he's signed this AI surveillance bill.
They want to stovepipe all the surveillance to palantir for more what predictive, uh, pro,
not predictive programming, uh, like precogs stuff.
They want to build dossiers on all of us to create this sort of digital matrix.
And AI is going to be a component of this to tell us become the new authority figure.

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They want AI to be the new authority figure.
Okay.
All right.
Anyway, that's kind of the idea of the solvent, coagulate goes back to alchemy.
It means to, it's a Latin phrase.
It's all means to dissolve coagulate means to coagulate.
So it's to break down and rebuild.
Okay.
Right.
So that's what's on the go with the bobs, the arm tattoos.

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Break down and rebuild.
Right.
And they want to rebuild the world.
This is again, more subjectiveness of what I believe based on what Bill Cooper has taught
me.
Right.
Red pill daddy Cooper.
It's the world they want to put us in is to reinstitute all these pagan occult beliefs

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as the superior religion.
Because it always goes back to wanting to get rid of Christianity.
And I've got reasons to believe that through Blavasky and Crowley and Parsons like they
ought their beef was always Christianity because I believe they're possessed by devils.
And this is the devil's workings.
To take us back to this pagan witchcraft fantasy, woo, woo bullshit, new age magic manifestation,

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all this fucking bullshit, right?
All this pagan stuff.
Yeah, but then why do you think that they're not sticks?
Because not sticks are not sticks believe in a similar kind of idea of they believe in
Christ simulation world.
Yeah, but they still believe in Christ.
Yeah, well Christ was like a magician to them.
You know, they believe that man can have mastery over this world.

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It's again with the tower of Babel stuff.
Anyway, my point being is that JK Rowling who wrote this whole fucking book series about
this occultist magical thing.
And like I'm not shitting on it in the sense that I'm like, oh, it's a terrible story.
And well, you should burn the books.
It's satanic.
Like I don't give a fuck.
It's fine.
I watch the movies.

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The movies are cool.
But it is occult.
Like we can't deny this.
It is occult.
But that's the fucking story.
That's what I don't think.
But she has what she has tattooed on her arms, what solving coagula.
She's go with the bobs.
You tell them me she and she hates no, she's not she hates trans.
She's a confusing character.

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The church of Satan uses the baffamette go with the bobs as a slow go.
He said that the they the church of Satan and Antonovay literally said go with the bobs
is the devil.
And it's a perfect image of the devil.
Anyway, yeah, but when I hear talk about Harry Potter today.
Just a minute.
When you talk about God, God is the alpha and omega.

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We are built in the like in the likeliness of God, right?
So then that means women too.
Okay.
So is he and what?
Huh?
Okay.
And what does that mean?
It means that the devil is the goat with the bobs.
Yes.
So both, right?
Is he both genders?

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Yes.
And then so is maybe God.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, we don't fucking know.
We don't know.
I do know that JK Rowling's books are way of normalizing occult practices and look at
how influential it was.
A whole generation of people we hang out with half of them.

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If I feel like we're the age of the cut off.
If you're younger than us, you were in a Harry Potter.
They all have the fucking tattoos of the deathly hollow symbol, which by the way, that symbol
came to her in a dream and it was specifically based on the Freemasonic Compassion Square.
Again, a reference to narcissism with the G and the Grand Creator, all the shit.
I'm telling you this chick is the whole story is based on ancient occult stuff.

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It's not some new, fantastical bullshit.
This is this whole character of Nicholas Flamel who was a literal alchemist who supposedly
solved the philosopher's known to never die.
Why is this bad?
You're telling me, okay, it's showing me a cult stuff.
I guess.
I agree, but is it a story about fucking wizards?
If you were to say this, it was a story about a fucking, I don't know, a biblical story, which

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is also filled with fucking magic.
Right?
Yes, I'm in Vegas, it was a magician.
Tons of magic in the Bible.
And then he changed his way and became a disciple of Christ.
I don't.
Okay.
Jesus Christ.
I'm just saying it normalizes these new age practices and look at how many people that are
in the Harry Potter are now into astrology and manifestation and all this.

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And again, I don't get a fuck.
It's still in the Bible.
I don't.
I don't.
Yeah, but it's because it goes back to the watchers and the Nephilim takes us to the Miami
Mall again because they were the one that taught mankind all these magical things and
conjurations and necromancy and all these, all these exact things you see in Harry Potter.

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It comes from fallen spirits.
That's why you shouldn't mess with it.
That's why we don't ghost on anymore.
Right?
And again, like that's like to be very crystal clear for the audience.
I don't demonize people that ghost on.
We did it.
We choose not to do it anymore because it's like, yeah, I, we've done enough that we're,

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you know, we see that it you're making contact with something.
I don't know what you are.
We don't like some people I think are like, oh, look at me.
I got goosebumps.
And they are like fantastical.
Yeah, they get out.
They get into the fantasy of it.
Yeah.
And they like to feel special.
I don't give a fuck about that.

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I just want truth, right?
Yeah.
And so and maybe they're like that too, but I don't know that because they are them and
I am me.
And so I don't know what's driving their motivation, but their motivation is, right?
Yeah.
So all I can do is my own experience because I cannot look through their filter and maybe
that's who they are.
Or maybe they're fanciful, fucking human beings.

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Mm hmm.
Well, I know what has happened in my fucking life.
Right.
But like if you read Father Syrophym Rose's book, orthodoxy and the religion of the
future, he talks about this, but they're saying Rose is kind of like a step child of the orthodoxy.

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Like, they're not a lot of people in orthodoxy.
Value his teachings.
Mm hmm.
What do you think?
I think he said more prolific shit than anyone else I've read from the orthodox church.
Interesting.
He's the one talking about tangible things.

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You know because we went to a million book clubs and all we talked about was all this shit
from the monks about how to live like Christ and all you should go live in the fucking cave
and starve yourself and do all this crazy shit and you're like, dude, this is unattainable
stuff.
Yeah.
How much practicality was in any of those books?
Coward's books we bought and went through all these book clubs read all these books.
Yeah.

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And I'm not saying anything wrong with those books.
I'm just saying that when it comes down to practicality in my life and who I am and who
I'm guessing that most of our audience would be people that just live day to day and are
trying to battle with all these things and they're we're influenced and we like pop culture
and we like movies and music but then we're also something like that.
I'm going to buy the we want to buy the landscaping trees but we're not supposed.
Yeah.

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This is the teachings the teachings of the monks are everything that you do for additional
gratification.
So there's something as small as I want to buy landscaping trees for my yard, right?
I want to buy yard trees for bushes and shit to make my yard look pretty.
You're actually a lot of the time you're supposed to take that money and give to the poor.

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That's what people don't fucking want to hear in all of this prosperity fucking Christian
bullshit that's going on is that when you get into the teachings when you really get into
the teachings the teachings are that this is not this world this life is not of our we're
just trying to get into heaven.
Christian is where we get a hang out.

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And to get into heaven from Christ's lips is you fucking give your shit away.
You treat people kindly.
Right.
Which is what's always intrigued me about hippie culture which also hippie culture blends
into new agey stuff.
But a lot of these hippie culture they live more like Christians than most Christians.
Yes.
Like when I see I don't know you watch cribs and there's been a handful of artists that I'm

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really impressed by and it could be bullshit.
They don't live in these actual houses.
You remember the one with red man and he was in a fucking townhouse in Jersey and he had
like a fucking cardboard box full of $1 bills.
Yeah.
I don't know if he really lives like that or that was just a joke for TV.
But I look at that and I respect that because I think that guy's living a more Christ like
life than most people.
Yeah.

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Or I want to say the red hot chili peppers that are similar like like meagerly miserly
kind of thing.
I'm trying to remember but anyway like some anyway still like yeah you're totally right.
That's what all the books tell you.
He was a drug addicted.

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He was 19 or something.
Yeah except for he's still like what is he 60 and he's still fucking a 20 year old.
That's true.
Come on.
I'm not going to look for.
I have a small spot for all the red hot chili peppers.
I know.
But sorry.
They're flawed humans.
Sure.
Like the rest of them.

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I look at the fruit of their music though.
Their music is very, very positive.
We're making a playlist of like R&B like 90s R&B and we were talking about our Kelly.
If Gilaean gets out.
This bitch if they let fucking Gilaean Maxwell who fucking trafficked people all over the

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fucking world, women, children, children, then our Kelly gets out.
Then yeah, then we get our Kelly to.
And we have to pretend that we don't care enough about these things.
There's no pretending.
The truth is, is nobody gives a fuck and let that soak in.
Nobody gives one fuck about sexual assault.

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Totally.
Rape.
It doesn't matter if it's women, if it's children, if it's animals, they, the people that
should, it should fucking matter to that.
Hold the, the gaville.
They do not care.
And you know what?
That fits in line with conservative values because they want it.

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They sit there and--
At the dreaded day job.
Years and years and years and years ago, at the dreaded day job, we had to start having
these sexual harassment classes where they taught us about what this looks like and why
you shouldn't do it and all these things and resources if this happens and all these
things.
Every guy in there, all these fucking boomer types generally really hated it.

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It was like some woke bullshit and they were like, what the fuck?
I can't rub a girl's shoulders.
What am I supposed to, how am I supposed to talk to these girls if I can't say anything?
Like, they got really upset by it.
And that makes sense because the whole conservative thing is like, we want to go back to the way
things used to be, back when used to sexually harass women and work and that was fine.
But I can't--

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That's the most thing.
I can't smell a chair where a chick's been farting all day.
Come on.
What kind of-- it's the kind of world and workplace you want to fucking live?
We lost track.
We're off plot.
We're off plot.

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Anyways, Sammy Hagar.
A.L.A.
Anyways, my point-- so let's wrap a bow in that 20-minute side tangent.
Sarah Feeam-Rose talked about how there was going to be this normalization of occult practices.
That the church specifically condemned for census existence, since the Bible, even the
Old Testament, even the Jews, whatever, right?

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And I don't personally care.
It doesn't bother me any.
We consider Ryan Blitzow a friend and they actively are like channeling UFOs.
And you wanted to go there?
Yeah, I'm intrigued by it.
I want to see a UFO.
I want to see it.
Same way I want to see ghosts.
So I'm not sitting here from a high judgment place of like, you shouldn't do it.

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I think it's fascinating.
I want to see this shit too.
Yeah.
I want to know the truth with my fucking-- my own eyes.
Yeah.
Will you pull your cord?
Excuse me?
Time your cord up.
It gets tangled in my foot.
OK.
Here's studio.
That's what I want for 20, 26.
One day.
I'm Santa Claus.
A proper studio.
OK.

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So I want to set all the groundwork for this.
This is a place of no judgment because I don't give a shit.
I'm fascinated by these things too.
I'm just saying, if you-- you should be careful.
This is all I would advocate for.
If you want to mess with stuff, buy all means.
But know that you might be messing with some shit that we don't know enough about.
That's the whiteness of us.

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The whiteness?
Yeah.
Like, brown and black people don't fuck with this shit.
Oh, really?
Oh, no.
They don't-- it's a hard pass.
They know better.
But the whiteness of us, we just can't help it.
I think it's in our DNA.
Just like smelling like dogs when we get wet.

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We can't help it.
It just happened.
The manifest destiny of the whites, we feel like we have to explore everything and conquer
everything.
We're just out here smelling like wet dogs and outside and looking at stuff.

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Looking, turnover, rocks and things.
You got it.
We find a book in a shed wrapped in fucking human hair.
Oh, we're opening it.
That's getting opened.
I know.
Okay.
You get that's going to slow us down.
You're going to put hair and weird twine around it.
No.
We're like, wow, look at this.

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Is that human hair?
It has we open it.
Happened.
Anyways.
Van Halen.
I don't know how to segway.
I'm trying to segway as you're talking.
I don't know how to do that.
So that's what I can see you think.
I think you're thinking, this is my anxious attachment.

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Like, bitch, shut up.
I'm thinking because I'm looking through my nose to be like, how can I segway smoothly?
So we're not going to.
Okay, go ahead.
I'm going to take our off.
Van Halen.
Yes.
You like Van Halen?
I don't give a shit about Sami Hagar.
I like, I like David Lee Roth Van Halen.
So I was going to ask you, which Van Halen are you into?

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David Lee Roth.
David Lee Roth.
Sammy Hagar.
There's one.
I think it's Sammy Hagar.
Oh God.
What is it?
What was the, was that Van Halen with the white Corvette with the girl doing the splits
on it?
Was that Van Halen?
It's not a good snake.
Oh, it was white snake.
What song is that?

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Here I go again.
That's my favorite fucking, I love that fucking song.
Yeah.
Not Van Halen.
No.
I don't like Sami Hagar Van Halen.
I don't either.
Okay.
I like the pound cake.
Those are best songs.
Everything else was trash.
And they always play a, was it called right now?
Yeah.
I hate that song.
I've always hated it.
Quick playing.

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I like that.
I don't know.
It feels nerdy.
Yeah.
You know, it feels like, you know, the edge.
Your dad would love that song.
Not my dad.
Not your dad, but like a dad.
Yeah.
It's like Home Depot rock.
Yeah.
It's a dad.
That's a, that's a, that's a boomer dad song.
Yeah.
I don't fuck with Sami Hagar at all.
David Lee Roth.
Like dad got, I love David Lee Roth Van Halen.

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But you always loved that.
I, listen, I like David Lee Roth also.
It's a guard.
But you, you specifically, you love a real fucked up human.
I do.
I feel like Diamond Dave.
Diamond Dave is a real fucked up human.
For sure is.
He's a total mess.
Well, okay.

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So this all started.
Uh, Josie's TikTok corner.
Sami this video.
So I'm not going to claim that I.
Discover this or some shit.
I hadn't heard anything about this before.
That's why I thought this was interesting.
You sent me a video of a Tik Toker talking about Sammy Hagar, making contact with Aliens
and then this song that he had written in the 70s and this prophecy stuff.

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And we're going to talk about all that because I had to look into all this because I don't
know anything about Sammy Hagar.
I never heard any of these things before.
I had to fact check it.
As I always do when you send me Tik Toks.
And the strange enough, the video is missing some context, which actually makes it a far
crazier story than she had presented on Tik Tok, which is why I wanted to do this show.

(28:19):
And I think we got to start with Sammy Hagar's autobiography book.
Alright.
Uh, from 2011 it's a book called Red, My Uncensored Life in Rock, which I purchased on the
Kindle.
And he tells a story about when he was living in Fontana, California, which is in San Bernardino.

(28:42):
He's originally from Salinas, California, but when he was a kid, he moved to Fontana,
doesn't really matter.
Yeah, he's a kid living in Fontana, grew up there.
Where is that at?
Like Central or--
No, I wanted to know it's closer to just north of LA.
Okay.
That's where he grew up, LA.
Basically, yeah.
Okay.
In San Bernardino.

(29:03):
Why do I think he was East Coast or Michigan?
I don't know.
I don't know enough about him.
Maybe he lived there for a time, but the far as I understand.
Okay.
That's where he was from.
And he was--
So that's your fucking cord.
He's basically--
He's basically--
He made me move my cord now.
It's in the way, and I karate chopped it.
Tie it around this thing.

(29:23):
Look, put it around your arm.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So he is basically poor, kind of homeless.
He's in his young 20s at this point.
No direction whatsoever.
No plans of being a rock star or nothing.
I'm going to read quickly.
I'm going to paraphrase through several pages of the book.

(29:43):
So feel free to cut me off at any point when you want to interject.
Okay.
So, you're going to get a trainer's grab some popcorn.
I don't know.
Grab your dick.
Go to patreon.com/brakingsocialstorms and check out the tears.
Speaking of which, you did a survey.
Yeah.
Let's look at the results of your survey.
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(30:04):
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(30:25):
To just say, hey, Patreon people, do you want us to keep doing shows about relationship
and horny stuff and so on.
And the results were overwhelmingly 87% want more horny stuff.
These are my people.
Lots of comments.
Lots of comments.
The horny are the better.
People love it.

(30:45):
Good.
This is a great launching point for the only fans.
Yeah.
Nobody wants to see that shit.
Too old middle age fucking people now.
I'm telling you for the right price, we can make it happen.
All right.
So I'm just going to read this long story here.
I'll try to be brief and paraphrase where I can.
Okay.

(31:06):
Sammy says, I was lying in bed one night in Fontana sleep dreaming.
I saw a ship and two creatures inside of the ship.
I couldn't see their faces.
I just knew that they were two intelligent creatures sitting up in a craft in the light
hole.
Creek forest area about 12 miles away in the foothills above Fontana.

(31:29):
And they were connected to me tapped into my mind through some kind of mysterious wireless
communication connection.
I was kind of waking up.
Also, I should note that he mentioned, I think he talked about this on Howard Stern or somewhere.
I saw a couple videos.
The Howard Stern interview is so, how is Stern is a terrible interviewer?
Oh, he thinks so.
Yeah.

(31:50):
Why?
Because he doesn't ask any interrogative questions.
Like he just is like, wow, did you get a boner?
Did they have, were they trying to fuck you?
Like, it's not an interesting, it's like funny, but it's like funny to fucking dudes and
it's not a very interesting con.
Because it's like, somebody's telling you that, why did you think that that was, I think
his most interesting question was like, were you on drugs?

(32:14):
That was it.
Okay.
Good one, fuck face.
I like Howard Stern, so I can't say nothing.
Yeah.
I mean, I like it.
It's not a like or dislike.
It's funny.
It's entertaining, it's funny, but it's not like, tell me why you think this wasn't a dream.
Yeah.
I think when you get into the professional realms of journalism like that, they never

(32:34):
ask the proper follow up questions.
Yeah.
I want to know like, why do you think this wasn't a dream?
Tell me exactly why this wasn't a nightmare that you just had and why you are like, no, this
was happening.
It's got to be some Hollywood shit of like, okay, when someone that tells a crazy story,
don't really dig into it, just let it be.
They must be something they do.
Because I noticed that all the time, I read these interviews and I'm like, no one asked

(32:57):
more details about this shit.
Yeah, they just kind of move on.
Like, wow, that's a wild story.
Were you on drugs?
What drugs were you doing?
Like what?
What's your?
Which is fine.
Like, I want to know, okay, are you doing drugs at this time?
Is there any drugs or alcohol that's going on at this time?
Because it's the 60s, right?
So I'd be like, are you on LSD?
Have you done drugs before this?

(33:18):
Yeah.
Is that an alcoholic?
Yeah.
So like, it's not that that's a wrong question.
It's just that that was and then that was the end of it.
Yeah.
All right.
So he says he feels this mysterious wireless connection and he mentions on one of these interviews
about how this was before Wi-Fi.
So the idea of a wireless sort of download was kind of a foreign idea back then.

(33:40):
But he experienced this.
So he felt it, right?
He says, I was kind of waking up.
They said in their communication to each other, oh, he's waking up.
We've got to go.
They fire off a numerical code, but it was not of our numerical system.
There was a split second where I was still seeing everything and then it was over.
Like someone pulled the cord or whatever.

(34:01):
I opened my eyes real quick.
The whole room was white.
I couldn't see anything.
No fixtures.
Nothing.
It was a timeless white infinity.
I couldn't move.
My eyes were open, but I was paralyzed in my bed.
Betsy was lying next to me as his wife.
Okay.
They'd kids too.
It's time.
Oh, okay.
So he's an adult.
Yeah.
But he's in his 20s.

(34:21):
You know, a 1960s 20 year old is a night, 2025 50 year old.
Yeah.
All of a sudden, pal, the connection instantly broke.
I jolted.
The room went black.
The room went back to black.
Everything returned to normal.
It was four o'clock in the morning, which tells me this happened during the 3 a.m.
winging hour, by the way.
Okay.
I was shaking.

(34:42):
My heart was pounding.
I was scared out of my brain beyond it.
Was JK Rawlings in there?
Yeah.
It was the goat with the bobs, alien craft.
I was scared out of my brain beyond anything I had experienced.
What was that?
I didn't even tell Betsy.
That set me off on the weirdest quest.
I didn't even know the word UFO.
I didn't know my astrological sign.

(35:04):
I didn't know anything about astronomy or numerology or anything, but I dug into it.
I started looking up in the night sky, sifting through my dreams more often, looking for patterns,
breaking things down and reading books.
This is where it gets interesting.
This is the part that I'm like, I'm like, the people that make these TikTok videos,
I'm like, I realize that you got to make it short for the brain rot people.

(35:24):
But like, you're missing so much interesting shit.
That's why I'm better than them.
Okay.
In the back of the yard was an old abandoned chicken coop.
It wasn't even on the property, but next to the driveway, a dilapidated shed with a roof-ready
to collapse.
One day I decided to check it out and see what was inside.

(35:45):
The door came off in my hands.
Inside there was nothing except for a dirty fucked up trunk.
I opened it and the only thing in the trunk was a book on numerology.
I've always been a bit of a mathematician.
I started reading it and it tripped out.
Tricked me out that if you add the numbers up, you always came down to one number.

(36:06):
You can take say 137.
7 plus 3 is 10 plus 1.
That's 11 and that's 2.
What is this called?
Zoot.
What is this called?
Jammatria.
Jammatria.
What's the difference between Jammatria and numerology?
Oh man, that's a good question.
I should know the answer too.

(36:27):
I don't know.
You just fucking said that you were the best of cult.
Jammatria, I think of the Hebrew mysticism of Kabbalah because they believe that God created
and the code is in numerology and numeric sequences.
Say that again.
Jammatria is Hebrew.
When I hear Jammatria, I think of Kabbalah which is Hebrew mysticism and it's this field

(36:53):
of study that thinks that God created our world in numbers and that it's like a code to
it.
That kind of sounds like simulation theory.
Yeah, kind of.
You remember that take talk I sent you where the guy was talking about how people were
getting on DMT and they were shining a laser.

(37:16):
Yeah.
And a wall and they were seeing code in the laser and it was like the one person was reading
off the code and the other person was confirming it and then they had like a straight person in
there.
Uh huh.
That wasn't like fucked up on DMT that was like right and stuff down.
Yeah.
It's kind of like that.
I wonder it's a matrix thing.

(37:38):
Matrix, okay.
So I and then numerology is what then?
I looked it up on chat GPT because I want to make sure our listeners are steered in the right
correction and I was right.
I was right.
I am the greatest.
Jammatria comes from ancient Jewish Kabbalah, a Hebrew mystical tradition.

(37:58):
Later adopted in Greek, Latin and English says that every letter of the alphabet has a numerical
value and words equals numbers and numbers equals frequency and that equals a hidden meaning.
Whereas numerology goes back to Pythagorean mysticism, Babylonian number magic, Greek
philosophy and new age metaphysics and the ideas that numbers carry archetypal meanings

(38:19):
regardless of language.
So similar but different.
Okay.
They both reduce numbers and then furthermore in.
So Jammatria specifically is like using words as giving them numbers and then using numerology
basics, right?
To then give it a frequency.

(38:41):
Yeah.
Is that what you're saying?
And then numerology.
And then numerology.
And then decode numbers and it reduces all of them and there's different systems to reduce
them.
There's like Hebrew Jammatria or numerology then there's I don't know.
Like English.
There's various coding.
It's because people that really get into this stuff.

(39:02):
Any time of the time there's an event, they'll decode and do the numerology decode of the
event, but they can look up different systems to find different answers.
So it gets real subjective.
That's why I don't really get into it too much.
It's a thing.
I'm not just counting.
I'm just saying like the people that get into this and like that's very subjective and you're
looking for the things confirmation bias to tell you what you want to believe.

(39:23):
Okay.
I get it.
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay.
So numerology.
So numerology.
And numerology is a little bit different than that because then they're not.
They're not like decoding stuff.
Is that what you're saying?
The terms are used synonymously basically in the conspiracy circles.
Basically, yeah.

(39:44):
Because it's similar enough.
Okay.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Okay.
He talks about master numbers, which is like 11, 22, 33, 44.
He says numerology is like astrology.
It's just mathematical equations.
I got that by thumbing through this book.

(40:06):
I'd add the numbers of my home address to see it as a one digit number.
I discovered that if you added nine to anything, it disappears.
Nine plus one is 10 back to one.
Nine plus seven is 16 or seven again.
Any numbers divisible by nine always comes up back to nine.
Three nines are 27 and seven plus two is nine.

(40:27):
It will always come back to nine.
Four times nine, 36.
Three plus six equals nine.
Whenever you add a nine to anything, it disappears.
That intrigued the hell out of me.
It drove me crazy.
I went.
That's interesting.
Yeah, it is.
And we learned all this stuff in mathematics, like in linear numbers.

(40:47):
It's weird that you're like a math minor and you don't, this isn't like, you're not, this
isn't your thing.
What the fuck?
It's not my thing because people can make a bullshit on whatever happens into whatever
they want to believe.
I could do an example for you if you wanted.
Do an example.
All right.
What's something, give me an event.
The Miami Mall.

(41:07):
Miami Mall Monsters.
Let's see what date and numbers are involved with it.
It happened on New Year's Day 2024, okay.
Let's look up a Jemontria calculator.
Okay.
We're going to go to Jemontria.org where you can insert the phrase.

(41:28):
Because a lot of people do this, right?
They'll type in Miami, calculate Jemontria.
And then it brings up Hebrew Jemontria, English Jemontria, simple Jemontria.
There's a bunch of different crazy things, right?
Okay.
Well, in Miami, the word Miami in Hebrew Jemontria comes out to 79, which I don't get because

(41:50):
that's not simplified down enough.
So you would take 79 down to 7 plus 9, which is 16.
So it's 7.
Yeah, it reduces down to 7.
That's weird that he just said that the 9 is a disappearing.
You can now have a 7 plus 9.
And then when you take it down, now it's to the disappearing 9.

(42:16):
So what they'll do is then they'll then look through specifically the thing he said.
Yeah.
That's fucking weird.
It's kind of weird.
Okay.
In the liquid Jewish Jemontria, right?
Miami equals 79, but so does a bunch of other words like oil or Aladdin or office or Gandalf

(42:39):
and so on.
I mean, there's hundreds of results here.
There's 14 pages of at least 30 names or words that you'll 79.
Okay, we admit.
Okay.
So 79 means what though?
79 is just the numeral numerological equivalent to the word Miami.

(42:59):
And then people conspiracy people that get into this, they say, what else does that equal?
Oh, and so the Miami is energetically connected to these other terms oil and has hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of hundreds of results.
And they'll find the one that they want to talk about.
Denial is also 79.
It's on the list here.
And guess who was in denial, the fucking news and the news equals Jemontria 24.

(43:23):
Guess what else equals 24?
Alien.
You know, like this is their full shit.
I'm sorry.
Like I get nothing out of it.
I fucking hate him.
It's the most low-lying bullshit fruit.
Okay.
Zach Hubbard, the king of Jemontria, did a whole show talk shit about me about how I don't
have any truth behind what I talk about because I don't get into Jemontria like he does.

(43:44):
Uh-huh.
You know, I'm like, okay, I'll find literal shit and literal books.
And like these guys come up with bullshit on whatever they're sniffing their own farts
by sifting through hundreds of results to find these answers or what they want to story
they want to tell.
Uh-huh.
And I'm sorry.
Like people love it.
That's great for you.
Lots of people love Harry Potter too and fucking Disney movies and Marvel bullshit.

(44:08):
Enjoy it.
It's all yours.
Have fun.
Okay.
It's my forehead vein popping out yet?
It's not yet.
But it's getting a little bit bulgy.
I, you know, it's funny.
It's earlier today.
I was thinking about it and I was like, when I was snow blowing.
I was like, you know what?
My nearest resolution is going to be to like stop talking shit.

(44:28):
Why?
Because I'm like, I love bitching.
Are you shitting me?
Don't you fucking do that?
I know.
You know what?
That is the root is most self indulgent shit.
What?
I want a fucking talk shit.
I'm not talking shit about people.
You're talking shit to me.
I'm still talking shit forever.
That's until I'm in the fucking grave.
I'm talking shit.
And don't, I don't care.

(44:49):
When people sit there and get all high in mighty and they're like, let's not talk about it.
But fuck you.
Get out of my house.
I'm talking shit.
It's just my opinion.
And I don't, that's what it is.
My promise, I'm not trying to come off and say, I'm not saying like Zach Herbert's piece of
shit lie.
I'm not saying that at all.
He, I'm saying he has his wheelhouse and he believes in it and that's his business model

(45:10):
and that's great for him and the people that like that.
To me, I find no value in it.
Yeah.
People have the hardest time like marrying this shit.
We all have opinions.
Everybody has one, an opinion.
And this is my fucking opinion and I don't take it as fact.
It's my opinion until more and for, until I get more information.

(45:32):
Yeah.
This is a fact to me, not fact to the world.
This is my fact that the filter that I've put over my own eyes that I look through.
And I'm not going to say that you need to do it.
I'm going to tell you why I believe it and why I think it's true until I get more information.
This is my fucking truth, but I'm not saying it's fact.

(45:52):
I'm saying it's my fucking opinion.
Why is that so hard for people to get?
My opinion is, Dermatria's fucking dumb.
I don't care that you love it.
I love that you love it.
Who gives a shit?
We're moving on.
Who cares?
Like why is that such a fucking hard thing for people to get?
I'm talking shit.
I'm talking shit for forever.

(46:13):
That's a Greek debater.
Yes, I'm sorry.
It's not happening.
You think I'm going to be a nice person.
I'm not going to be a nice person.
I'm going to tell you why I think you're dumb.
And then I'm going to tell you I love you and I don't care.
Like come on.
Yeah.
I'm not saying Jermatria isn't a real thing and it's not part of the occult story.
I'm saying that to unpack every event with Jermatria is a self-serving mission.

(46:36):
That I can literally come up with, I can spin this fucking Wasle of Wuzzle.
It's a fugacy to absolutely anything I want to and people will be like, wow, it really
does mean this thing.
Yeah.
Okay, I get you.
I get you.
But if you ever say again that you're not talking shit ever again in front of me, I swear
to God, we're talking shit in this house.
These are my conspiracy brothers and I don't like that we cut each other down.

(47:00):
You don't need to cut them down.
Just say, I don't fucking believe it.
I love that you love it.
But we're still talking shit in this house.
And we still love the people.
This is a life.
Because it's not very Christ like and I don't want to come off.
I don't want to come off like I'm better than these people.
We don't think that.
Well, you do.

(47:21):
Well, sometimes I do.
I feel strongly about the way I research and the way I believe in what I find.
And I think some people I look at their stuff and I'm not impressed and I'm like, well,
I don't, how can you believe that based off of what?
And I get fired up about it, but it comes off like I'm on some haters shit.

(47:42):
And I guess it's probably some hater in there.
I'm sure.
I'm sure there's some hater in me.
Listen, we all fall short in the glory of God.
You say that every fucking day.
So here we go.
All right.
I'm still on some hater shit for 20, 20, 20.
Sorry.
You know, but how do you shift out through the mud?

(48:03):
It's a muddie the water.
I don't like.
But here's the deal is like, you don't have people talking shit on the side.
How do we, if everything is just at face value and we don't get to talk about something
being why we believe it or why we don't believe it.
But it's just, well, that's what they believe.
And that's just how it, and now we don't get it debated.
That's a good point.

(48:23):
Then how do we, how do we move forward as a fucking culture?
I agree.
And I think the best example of this is Joe Rogan.
You know, he's got a place in my heart.
I don't like what he did with the Trump bullshit endorsing him and putting us down this path
of the fucking dark enlightenment almost single handedly.
Yeah.
And I've got a real problem with that.

(48:44):
I got a real problem with that.
Doesn't mean I have a problem with Joe Rogan.
I still like Joe Rogan.
I like what he's done.
I've always been into his like, I think he's a cut way of exploring things.
You think he's a cut?
I do.
I don't know.
I think he used to be really interesting and really fun.
And I think he's country.
So there we are.
You love him.
I don't hate him as a human, but I do think he's a cut.

(49:06):
So here we are.
I think he sold himself out for money.
That's what I think.
And I feel it feels like that could be true.
And I don't like that.
I hate that.
I hate when people are willing to do anything for money.
I find it gross.
It makes me sick because I think money is evil.
Yeah.
I just like, I want to trust people.
And then sometimes I guess that's what my beef is.

(49:28):
I wanted I liked Joe Rogan so much.
I mentioned him in my first book as a great person, a resource.
Yeah.
And it was because I trusted him and I felt like that trust was violated.
Yeah.
And I'd love to hear the rebuttal to that.
If by some weird chance I ever got to talk to him in person.

(49:49):
But then he might just say that to us what we just said, which is he has an opinion.
And this is his opinion.
And he's allowed to have, and this is how we all find out what the truth is.
Right?
I still just, baby.
The problem is motivation.
What motivates you to have this opinion?
When you got a boil it all the way out, right?

(50:11):
And that's what's hard.
I can't boil out what motivates fucking Joe Rogan.
I'm just going to sit back and make opinions about what I think would be his motivator.
What it looks like, what his motivator is.
I think there's strong evidence that money is his motivation.
That's why he moved from California to Austin, Texas.
Yeah.
It's an educated opinion because he values wealth.

(50:34):
Yeah.
And like that's fine to value wealth.
But when it comes down to some of these other things that I disagree with strongly and I
think, man, I don't know why would you do that?
But again, that's our morals and our morals to live up to.
Joe Rogan doesn't have to live up to our morals.
But it will make me not believe everything that comes out of his fucking mouth.
Yeah.

(50:55):
Well, I don't care what he believes or what he does.
But now I just know he's motivated by money and that now has, I have to watch what he says.
I have to watch about what I believe what he says.
Yeah.
Because we don't share this, we don't share a similar moral compass.
Yeah.

(51:15):
Right?
Yeah.
It's almost the more you talk the more I know.
He's got his four hour thing.
He's like, okay, well, talk it up.
Let's hear it.
Let's see what you got.
Hi, E. Joe sees in the house today.
I just want to, I want to, I want to fucking talk shit.
I want Joe Rogan to talk shit.
And I want to know who I want to, you know what it is?

(51:37):
I want to see people's words.
I want to know what they think.
And I hate when people are all like secretive and all that stuff.
Like, do you just show me how fuck what a piece of shit you are?
I'm going to show you what a piece of shit I am.
Yeah.
I'll be very honest about what a piece of shit I am.
I'm not trying to hide it.
I feel like truth is what will make our world a better place if we could all get on the
same page.

(51:57):
But everyone hides behind things and doesn't tell you is transparent.
And it's a relation.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like how much money people to get in there.
I'm with you.
I think that Trump and whatever nefarious forces behind him, pay Joe Rogan a very handsome
sum of money to have him on and then endorse.
I agree.
I realize he, he invited Kamala Harris on and Kamala Harris was like, no, I want you

(52:19):
to leave your studio and come do it over here, which I thought was a fucking dumb move.
And turned out it wasn't dumb move.
Yeah.
So you could argue like Kamala was going to pay him too.
I don't know the answers to that, but I do know that he did come out and endorsed Donald
Trump.
And I don't know.
Maybe I wonder why he did that.
That's very odd.
Yeah, because the fucking Democrats, they think they're high.
My God.

(52:40):
I know.
They're the fuck.
No matter than everyone.
And it's like they have this high brow thing of like, I don't know what happened because
in the 90s, they were like the blue collar middle class people.
They're just so annoying.
Now they become this like high and mighty like, well, we'll tell you what.
Let's write for you.
We have people getting their fucking neck stomped in the street with a with police officers
doing it until they can't until they fucking die.

(53:03):
And they put on a dishie and do a and kneel in the set.
What the fuck are we even doing?
You want to talk about smelling your own fucking fart?
I blame the boomers.
You're that smelling your own fucking farts.
Yeah.
You're in a position to do something and give us some real fucking help out here.
And they they wrapped themselves in a dishie and then they go fucking kneel for a moment

(53:25):
of silence.
Get the fuck out of my face with that shit.
Puked.
This is real middle class people and some younger, those damn boomers.
You know, we've never I looked at saw a tiktok and I didn't believe it.
We've never had a Gen X president.
It's all been boomers enough with them.
They got to go.

(53:46):
They got to get out the way.
Get out of the fucking.
You guys are too old.
They sit the fuck down and let younger people take control because that's the argument
was like, look, people just like to shit on the Gen X, but like we've never had a chance
to actually do anything in this country because the boomers won't get the fuck out of the
way.
They won't leave.
They're sitting there with their Alzheimer's eating their fucking mushy food.
They won't sell their house.
They won't get out of Congress.

(54:07):
They won't stop running for president.
They just will not stop.
And I thought, whoa, Obama was young.
No, Obama's a boomer too.
They're just so much.
Anyway.
Back to Sammy.
Hey, Gar, holy fuck Sammy.
Sorry, buddy.
He's going on and on about nine.
I'm not going to read the whole thing.
What is that called?
It wasn't a Dishikki.

(54:28):
What's the scarf with the?
I don't know.
Whatever the fuck.
I thought it was a Dishikki.
I don't know.
It's just like an African tribal scarf.
It was just such a fucking deformative.
Oh my God.
I can't disgusting.
When people think I hate Republicans, I hate Democrats just as much I hate Republicans.
I know.
Well, I want to make sure people know that.

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They're just so.
The only person.
The only politician that I'm fucking right or die for to a point of being a blind spot is
Bernie Sanders.
I agree with that.
Love that fucking man.
I love him.
He goes a little too far for me.
Yeah.
I don't align 100% with him, but like I don't give a fuck.
He's got the spirit of what I want.
He's got the spirit.
The closest thing.

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There's nothing else out there.
There's nothing else that is loving and caring for humanity is that man.
The rest of it is like and maybe it is what Republican who's the whole performative here
is so many houses.
I don't think so.
I don't believe you.
He doesn't.
He's released his tax records.
He makes a couple hundred grand a year.
The only one out there.
The Marjorie Taylor Greens made millions, Bill millions of dollars while she sat in the fucking

(55:33):
insider trading.
Did she?
Yeah.
They all fucking did.
They all fucking did.
The ones that they hate, AOC, Bernie, those are the ones that are trying to put regulations
so that they can't insider trade.
And those are the ones that they fucking hate.
All right.
It's almost like it's by design.
Almost.
I wonder if they can back to Sammy Hagar and wake up.
He's in his chicken coop reading about numerology.

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I'm going to do your, what's your guys is David Lynch.
When are you going to wake up?
Bill Cooper.
Oh, sorry.
All right.
He's reading this book.
I not only read the entire book but many others on the subject.
I became a numerological nut.

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In my family, you didn't talk about physics or astrology or stuff like that.
But there was a lady named Miss Kellerman who lived in a tracked home in, you, you, you
Kapa.
She didn't take reservations.
She just pulled up in front of her house from 8 o'clock in the morning to whenever she
felt like shutting the door.
She had a screen door in front of the regular door and if the regular door was shut, it meant

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she wasn't seeing people.
If that door was open to men, she was doing business.
She'd knock on the door and give her 50 cents.
She'd take a look at you and if she didn't want to see you, she would just shut the door.
I tried to go see her probably 10 times in my life but there was always a line of cars
down the block.
But one afternoon after I discovered the numerology book, I pulled up there with my 50 cents which

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was about all I had total.
The door was shut.
There was no cars.
I drove all the way out there.
I was going to knock on the door.
I knocked.
I had a little bit of a beard, really long hair, stone hippie to the bone.
She opened up.
She barely cracked the door, put her head out.
She was an Italian lady who spoke in broken English.
I'm not seeing anybody she said.

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I drove all the way out here, I told her.
She took a real hard look and stared right back through me.
Then she opened the door.
I started following her back to this little room and she started talking.
You need to shave your beard but don't cut your hair, she said.
For an old time Italian woman like her to say, don't cut your hair in those days was amazing.

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All my mother wanted to do was get my hair cut.
Don't cut your hair she said, it looks very good under lights.
We went into her back room, she sat down in a rocking chair and put her hand under a velvet
cloth that was on the table.
She began fidgeting back and forth in the rocking chair with her eyes closed and just
started laying it on me.
Don't take drugs she said.

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Who's Bill she asked?
I didn't know.
Don't be mean to your stepfather she said.
He loves you very much and he's going to die soon.
She had it right only backward.
It was my father who died soon.
You have a brand new little baby girl she said.
No, it's a boy but everyone thinks he's a girl.

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That was Aaron.
He was born with long thick curly black hair.
People always thought he was a girl.
He's a beautiful little boy she continued and your wife she has a real problem with breathing.
She needs to drink raw egg whites with honey and lemon that will help her breathing.
Even though Betsy had left the psych world, word, word.
I can't say that word.

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Another word I can't say because of my tonsillectomy.
Word, word.
Word, you weirdo.
I can't say word, world, world.
What are you saying?
World or word?
Word, W-A-R-D.
Psych ward.
A word.
I can't say word.
I'm suing that goddamn doctor for everything he's got.

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Say pull.
Pull.
I'm suing the fuck out of this guy.
Got a tonsillectomy and I can't say these words anymore.
Too bad I have a career speaking.
Okay.
She left the psych hospital.
Wait, who had the psych ward?
Betsy is wife.
Oh, his wife was in the psych ward.
Apparently, yeah.

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She continued to have panic attacks where she couldn't breathe.
She had to rush her to the hospital in the middle of the night like an asthma kind of thing.
You used to smoke cigarettes, she said, don't start smoking cigarettes against bad for
your voice.
She kept saying, don't do this.
Don't take drugs.
Don't cut your hair.
That was the one that got me since my hair kept me from getting jobs and it kept me from

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getting in places.
You're going to move to Northern California, she said.
I'm what?
I'm playing with the Justice Brothers in the nightclub.
I've got no money.
I'm on welfare.
I just got married and have a brand new kid.
She said, you're going to move to San Francisco, but you need to go to Santa Barbara first.
There's something there for you.
But then you're going to move to San Francisco and you're going to make it.

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I see your name and lights all over the world.
You're going to go to seven countries.
You're going to go to Italy, France, Germany and she named off all these countries and
I had barely been outside of Fontana.
Go to San Francisco, she said, that's for you and I believed her.
I wanted to go back to San Francisco ever since cotton broke up.
I had seen the scene and it blew my mind.

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I went back to Fontana to put together a new band so I could move to San Francisco.
Then he talks about creating the band and how they moved to San Francisco and they were
sleeping on the floor.
Then we get another paranormal story in this thing.
He says, one night I dreamt somebody was knocking at the door.
I get up to answer it, wondering who could be knocking on my door in the middle of the
night, over the door to my dad.

(01:00:53):
Only he's like 22 years old.
That's one of the master numbers and numerology that he previously talked about, by the way.
He's young and vibrant.
"Hey son, great day for the Irish," he says.
He acted crazed, really happy, but drunk on his ass.
What the fuck are you doing here?
I tell him, my kid's sleeping right here on the floor right in this room.
Don't ever come here drunk in front of my family.

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You're going to scare this guy and I'll get the fuck out of here.
I slammed the door shut, went back to bed and that was...
Is this his dream?
This is a dream.
Okay.
That's how the dream ends, right?
Okay.
Two minutes later, somebody's knocking on my door again.
I headed the door thinking, "God damn it, I'm really going to chew his ass out this time
and I open the door.
It's Don Pruitt from next door."

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Your sister is on the phone, he said.
I didn't have a phone of my own.
I went over and picked up the receiver.
My sister says, "Dad died."
And dad died in the backseat of a police car.
They picked him up in a park in San Bernardino across the street from the nightclub.
So he had this dream and it really happened.
It also happened after this...

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Was it a fortune teller?
Gypsy?
What is the right term here?
What did he call her?
I don't know.
Psychic.
He doesn't...
Yeah.
After the psych, I told him that his stepfather would die, but his actually his father.
So he had this whole thing and then it also...
It also is interesting to me because it is yet another celebrity who has this story about

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how they knew they were going to become famous before they became famous.
Someone just said this on TV.
Eddie Murphy.
Eddie Murphy, yeah, and then Netflix documentary.
That was actually a great documentary.
That was really good.
I thought it was good.
I liked it.
Netflix is the best.
That's why I'm bullish on Netflix stock.
Yeah.
They're the best.
Best documentaries, best shows, best movies.

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Anyway.
How do they know it?
How do they all know it?
You know?
Um...
Then he also talks about it.
Eddie Murphy didn't do a lot of drugs.
I think that was the most important part of that whole thing and they didn't really like
talk about it a whole lot.
They did a little bit.
They had Dave Chappelle on there and he said, Eddie Murphy was Eddie Murphy in the 80s and

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went through all of that shit.
And Eddie Murphy said the whole time he was buried...
He buried all of his friends.
Yeah.
He said he literally buried, uh, who like buckwheat from the little rascal because these
guys broke with no money.
You get this fame, you get this money, you get into the lifestyle, you start doing drugs,
you lose fucking everything.
It's fucking sad.
And you hear that story all the time.

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All the time.
Um...
Where I was at.
Okay.
And also in the book he talks about really being in a David Bowie who also he also had that
alien download with Ziggy Stardust.
What do you know much about David Bowie?
I wouldn't say much.

(01:03:51):
You know a little.
Yeah.
What did he...
So did he have an alien experience?
What was his whole deal with the Ziggy Stardust stuff?
Well he...
Ziggy Stardust was about an alien that came to earth and he did...
I think it was like a...
I want to say it was like three albums that had this arc of the story about Ziggy Stardust

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coming to earth.
And in the 70s he had seen a bunch of UFOs.
He said every night for a year he saw UFOs.
All UFOs a night.
I mean he was also on drugs.
But he's a weird dude.
You know David Bowie's a weird dude.
Obviously in Twin Peaks plays a major role.

(01:04:34):
A major role.
He's all like on it for like...
Well his characters are major character in the storyline.
He's not on there a ton.
Oh.
But in the storyline it's huge.
Okay.
Wasn't he just a fucking detective?
He's an FBI agent.
For like a...
Part of the Blue Rose Task Force.

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But he guides our characters in season 3.
He's a guide.
Oh season 3.
He's the heart.
So I didn't watch season 3.
Okay.
Okay.
Arguably the best season.
Oh.
People hated.
I guess.
I don't...
People are weird.
They're doing 18 hour screenings in the theater of the whole season right now.

(01:05:15):
That sounds like a nightmare.
How are you?
Why would you do that to yourself?
Break it up in two days with like breaks between each episode.
Okay.
I'd be interested in doing it.
I don't know if I would do it.
I think the collective experience would be cool but then I would be...
I couldn't do it.
I couldn't sit in that.
Oh if I could do it.
I think I could do it if you were like, "Hey I'm going to be out of town for a week doing

(01:05:38):
something."
And I got nothing but time.
I'd be like, "You can go do that."
You have all the time.
If you want to do it, you can go do it.
I don't want to do it.
I don't want to blow the whole weekend.
It wouldn't bother me.
I know it wouldn't but...
I would be like, "Go do it.
I love this for you.
I want you to have everything that you want in life.
I want you to have it."
I want you to have it.
You're very nice.

(01:05:59):
So if you want to go do that, I want you to go do that.
I'll figure it out.
I'll get shit done at the house.
I don't have a problem with it.
It's not in Salt Lake anyway.
So...
Okay.
Well, just know that in your soul that if you want something, I'm your life partner.
I want you to go through life and my job in our life is to help you attain the things that
you want to do.

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I will try my best.
It makes you want to cry because I feel it so deeply.
Whatever you want, I want you to have it.
I believe that.
You don't have to explain it.
I believe it.
So if you want something, come to me and I will help you get there.
Thanks.
We just got to plan it.
You know?
Yeah.
What if I want a boxing match with Zachary Hubbard?

(01:06:41):
Who's that?
That's a matchy guy.
I'm just joking.
I'm a lover and not a fighter.
You may fight nobody.
Too short.
I'm like easy-e.
People in my height don't fight.
So Sammy Hagar had his...
Actually, I wouldn't.

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Zachary.
I've had a lot of people talk shit about me for no last reason.
You're on the right path.
Did it?
That Ryan Christon guy who has since befriended me and we made up without talking about it.
Then some lady on Twitter, someone on my Patreon sent me this lady.

(01:07:21):
They follow on Twitter who was talking shit about me.
Is that the man in the team all the day?
She also said that you stood on a black and white checkered floor.
I don't know if you remember that.
Yeah.
Tastes my own medicine.
Uh-huh.
A little bit of tea.
And then...
It's in the shape of a triangle.
This fucking performative male called the mini-minute man on YouTube with millions of

(01:07:43):
followers.
Fucking talk shit about me.
Fuck him.
I'm not getting...
Fucking twining.
I'm not getting...
I'm not gonna talk shit anymore.
You're right.
I take that back.
Christ wouldn't like me doing that.
Oh, shut up.
All right.
Go ahead.
Anyways.
Sammy Hagar.
Sammy had an alien exchange.
You're right.

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I take that back.
Christ wouldn't like me doing that.
An alien experience in Fontana, right?
I just read from the book.
Okay.
At a place called "Light All Creek" in Fontana.
These are like little towns, right?
It's nothing there.
Strangely enough, I look it up and "Light All Creek" is a hotbed for big-foot sightings.
Oh.
And then if I do the numerology...

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Then if we unpack the word "Light All Creek," you find it's equivalent to "Paradormal."
The San Bernardino County Government website posted an article on October 30th, 2025 of all
times about "Light All Creek" sightings.

(01:08:47):
And it brings up a news article.
It looks like it's from the '60s, but they add context to it.
I'm gonna read you from it.
In the summer of 1966, this is like, I think four years before Sammy Hagar's UFO experience.
People newspapers reported sightings of big furry, slimy creatures by teenagers around the
region, nicknamed it "The Light All Creek Monster."

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Now, what's curious is that when you read Sammy Hagar's book, because I bought on Kendo
and I did a control F search to find the story, because I'm not gonna read his old fucking
book, because like I said, I'm a diamond-dave guy.
If it was Diamond Day's book, I'll read the whole thing.
And he doesn't call it aliens.
If you search alien, you'll be like, "There's no aliens.
What are you talking about?"
He calls it creature.
Creature.

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He uses that term "creature."
Which is what they use in this area of a "Light All Creek Monster."
What did he say the creatures look like when he was in the white room?
Did he describe them?
He doesn't describe them.
What?
Yeah, is that weird?
What the fuck?
Yeah.
All right.

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I read you the whole excerpt from the whole chapter.
Oh, that's the end of it.
That's it.
That's the whole thing.
Okay.
Unless there's something else buried in there that I couldn't find on my search.
I searched all those words.
I searched creature in the book.
For other examples, there was nothing else.
There's just that.
Okay.
At that time, reports of other strange phenomena such as UFOs were frequent in the In the
Empire according to police reports at the time.

(01:10:10):
In 1965, a Realtto police officer reported a monster scene in the river bottom.
Four years earlier, two girls claimed to have encountered a huge green-faced ghoul with
a liking for loud, rock, and roll music.
What?
Isn't that fucking weird?
That is weird.
That's what I wanted to talk about.
I'll keep reading, no.

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That's the interesting part.
After an investigation, police discovered it was a prankster dressed in a black cape in
Frankenstein mask.
So.
Wait, I'm sorry.
We're wind.
Did you just say that these girls were like, there's this monster and it was fucking rock
and roll.
Yeah.
And then the cops do an investigation and they're like, yeah, it's this kid over here with

(01:10:52):
the Dracula mask.
That's what the cops claim.
A Frankenstein mask.
Or a Frankenstein mask?
That's what the cops claimed.
But we all know there was an entire project blue book at the time going on to discredit
every sort of sighting or every sort of paranormal thing.
Okay.
So who knows?
I don't believe anything anymore.
It was sucks.
It's a very black pill world to live in where I don't believe anything in the history books

(01:11:14):
now.
Yeah.
Not on its surface.
Yeah.
Another story from the 19th.
Can you find out that Gaelin Maxwell's fucking dad owns it all?
Yeah.
Crazy.
So what's the truth here?
Yeah.
Yeah.
When her dad and Masad owns the Rand McNally school textbook company, I like what the fuck are

(01:11:36):
we even talking about anymore?
Especially when you go back in those time, like an old enough times that they didn't write
anything down, like how do I believe any of this shit?
Yeah.
Another story from the 1950s involved a driver who his car was clawed by a monster.
Yeah.

(01:11:57):
Spooky stories, which you know, I don't love.
I love a fucking spooky story.
Did you ever hear the one where the guy is driving and he's like, dude, he calls 911 and it's
a 911 voice recording.
And he's like, yeah, I'm on whatever the fuck, I 16, whatever.
And there's a guy covered in blood at the edge of the road and I was going to stop for

(01:12:20):
him.
But he's like covered in blood.
And then I was like, I thought I was screaming.
I thought I was in my fucking truck bed and it's like this big monster.
It's scary.
It's scary as fuck, man.
How come you don't like spooky stories?
You like fucking scary movies?
How come it ends in spooky stories?
I have no idea why.

(01:12:40):
Who are you?
Like mine starts in spooky stories.
I guess it's because I'm gonna scare you if it's real, but I don't know if it's real.
You literally listen to not real movies.
Yeah, because I'm going in and I know it's not real and it's fine.
It's a story, but if I had my brain think about like, is this guy telling the truth or
not?
It does something to me.

(01:13:00):
It bugs you.
Bugs me.
All right.
I wish people didn't lie.
You know, that was a hard thing for me to learn because I don't lie.
Mm-hmm.
And when you don't lie, you don't realize that other adults still lie because it seems
like such a childish, weird fucking thing.
Yeah.
It's like, you're an adult.
Who the fuck are you lying to?
Why would you lie?

(01:13:21):
Because as a person who doesn't lie, when I watch people that lie, I'm like, whoa, that's
fucking wild.
It's crazy.
It's what's gonna kill social media with all the AI stuff.
It's tear.
I don't get it.
I'm like, why would you lie?
I would be if somebody caught me actively trying to fucking lie, the humiliation that would

(01:13:43):
fucking roll over me.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
It's so bizarre.
I'm the honest person I've ever met.
Yeah.
To a fault.
To a fault.
To a fault where I tell people way too much shit about me.
Yeah, I just, I think all the, that's another thing.
It's like these AI, the way AI videos can be faked and people can now make money off of

(01:14:07):
lying on the internet.
Yeah.
It gets under my fucking skin.
I hate a fucking liar.
Yeah.
It's gonna kill the social media.
It makes me think fucking so low of you.
Yeah.
I think that you're a, I think like I can't trust anything you're saying.
Yeah.
Cause I don't know when you're gonna stop lying.

(01:14:27):
For some reason, people, when you start and when you stop, I have no fucking clue.
It's the weirdest fucking behavior.
And it's way more prevalent than I thought.
You know what I blame?
Also, I blame the corporations of America for not paying people enough money such that
they're in the position of deciding, okay, do I want to go slave labor?

(01:14:48):
This job and not get paid enough to live or don't want to stay at home and lie on the internet
and my cozy little home and make a ton of money.
I'll choose lying.
And like I don't respect that, but I also get it.
Yeah.
And that sucks, man.
I hate that that's the world we live in, but that's the world we live in.
And you can't trust anybody that you see on the internet now.

(01:15:08):
Yeah.
Cause it's same with podcasting.
When I start podcasting, I used to pay a host to podcast.
It cost me money every month.
And then somewhere around 2017, 2018, there's a way you could make money.
Oh, shit, you can put ads, you can get sponsorships.
I mean, if you're just a regular person, if you're, you know, Joe Roe has been making money
off of fleshlites since he started, right?
But he's huge, right?

(01:15:29):
And neuro gum, neuro link gum.
Neuro link gum.
But now like there's always monetization things in podcasting and social media.
Those things didn't exist.
And now it's bringing all the liars out of the woodworks.
And agendas and political agendas and all kinds of dumb shit dark money.

(01:15:49):
Yeah.
Cause it's influential and it shapes our world.
It's literally literal magic.
It's the alchemy of labor to money to magic to creating a reality.
Okay.
Back to Sammy.
Hey, Gar.
We never forget about you.
Sammy, hold on, buddy.
We're almost done.
Now, something else weird about that area that he had this experience.

(01:16:13):
All the other weird shit is that's also where the hell's angels were founded.
Oh, is that strange?
Yeah, that is strange.
The hell's angels, which ties us into the ultimate concert.
Is there anything more embarrassing than an old person in a fucking gang in a motorcycle
gang?
It's so fucking embarrassing.

(01:16:35):
The toxic male in me when I see like one of them dudes in a real motorcycle, okay,
hell's angels, that's for some.
Like it was a part of me that respects that is like, oh, that's a bad motherfucker right
there, you know, and I want to be that.
Like I'm like, now what?
I was a fucking biker, dude.
Nobody would fuck with me.
You know, to me.
There's like a masculine thing in that that I admire so embarrassed.

(01:16:57):
But the reality of it on the other hand, when I think about the reality of what that looks
like, there's a hierarchy and there's some like weird shit in there.
It's cringy as fuck.
And it's actually like very emasculating.
It is.
Unless you're the fucking boss dog.
Yeah.
The guy that in the, does the boss, he, he's in the back of the motorcycle.

(01:17:19):
It's a masculine and then like to me, I'm like, you're an adult.
Like I get how children fall into fucking gangs.
Yeah.
I don't understand how adults fall into fucking gang.
What?
That's so embarrassing.
It's fascinating to me regardless.
And then I love the ones that are like, they're just in motorcycle gangs.

(01:17:43):
And then you always say this, let's meet up at Jake's over the top.
Let's go get some custard and then we're going to go fucking cruise.
It's so embarrassing.
It's a motorcycle club you're talking about.
Whatever.
And then I just like, I just can't, I can't.
I don't understand how people, they have the time for this shit.

(01:18:06):
We are like, aren't embarrassed.
And how loud do your fucking motorcycles have to be?
And then you want to talk about, you want to feel cool and how to live a dangerous life
of driving a motorcycle.
But then you have to have everybody else have stickers and have like commercials about
start seeing motorcycles.
It's like, nobody cannot not see you.

(01:18:27):
You're so fucking loud and obnoxious.
Lizzy, your fucking door Boston music is loud as you possibly fucking.
What did Boston do to get roped into this?
It's so fucking embarrassing, dude.
I don't know.
I, I'm always intrigued by it.
So it's hard for me to, I mean, to drive by on them.

(01:18:50):
But it is embarrassing the reality of what was that show we watched?
I mean, granted it was a reality show full of bullshit.
Remember that one about the motorcycle club?
I used to watch the devil's ride or something.
Yeah, where they would talk about each motorcycle club and like what they fucking did or whatever.
And the whole time I was like, embarrassing.
It is kind of embarrassing.
Oh my God, you're a grandpa.

(01:19:13):
What are you doing?
Don't take care of your kids.
This is humiliating.
You're gonna be a drunk.
That's what you're aspiring to be looking like.
That's what all these fucking drunk assholes out fucking embarrassing.
That's the reality of all these groups because I'm always fascinated by these like career
criminal types that are, you know, the 1% is man.
The ones that are like, I don't give a fuck about society.
I do what the fuck I want.

(01:19:34):
Yeah.
Motorcycle gangs, the mob, real street gangs.
Why does the mob not embarrass me?
Absolutely fascinating.
There's no different.
There is no different.
But I'm not like, maybe because they wear suits.
Suites, maybe.
That's your toxic femininity.
You think that the suit makes them a stand up person?

(01:19:54):
No, I don't think they're stand up.
I don't know.
I don't know what the difference is.
Like, maybe it's the fucking suit.
Isn't that weird?
I just see like a dirty greasy person and I'm like, that's weird that you're doing this
at this age.
Where do you find--

(01:20:15):
Where do you find--
Where do you find--
Where do you find the motorcycle gangs?
Or what?
Yeah.
Oh.
Like, it's the--
Maybe it's the outfit.
Oh, okay.
You're saying like, when you look at the motorcycle guys, you look dirty and greasy, but
then you look at the mobs.
There's like, they look clean.
They look nice.
They look dirty.
That's rude.
I don't mean you look dirty.
So those those bikeers guys look dirty.
Yeah.
Because I was friends with a dude who was--

(01:20:35):
Like, they're working on their motorcycles or whatever, right?
But then I don't know.
I'm going to have to unpack that.
I don't know why I think that.
I was friends with a guy who his dad was a biker in a motorcycle club.
Like a for real?
Yeah, for real.
Oh, okay.
And we used to hang out.

(01:20:56):
It was me and like a bunch of teenagers.
I mean, we were like 16 to 17 to 18.
And we used to fuck a party at his house.
Okay.
Like, we did everything and they didn't give a fuck.
Wow.
Cool guys.
I know.
And it was so cool at the time.
But in hindsight, I'm like, why?
But they were really dirty.
They were dirty as fuck.

(01:21:16):
I mean, it was like a fucking order house.
It was a thousand broken down cars and bikes everywhere.
It was crazy.
But there is, but I am not going to sit here and lie that I'm not way every time.
If I watch enough shit on the mob or the crypts, I'm like, I'm doing it a fucking game tomorrow.

(01:21:37):
I'm done with this bullshit life.
Like, if I watch the first half of a mobster movie, I'm like, where do I join?
I think I'm like 1% Italian.
Where can I sign up?
But by the end of the movie when I see the reality, I'm like, oh, fuck that.
I'm not going to prison.
I'm going to die with your friends and then you go into a room that's wrapped in plastic
and have your brain blown out.

(01:21:57):
Sounds fun.
Or I get pinched and I got to do a bit upstate.
I'm not doing that.
I don't want to go to prison.
You have two round of an ass.
You've been doing too many squats.
Oh, it'd be terrible for me.
It would be terrible.
Short with this long hair.
I'd be done.
I'm done.
Those almond eyes.
I look too.
You're almond sleepy eyes with your long curly hair in that round dump truck.

(01:22:22):
I know.
It's the feds ever take me down because of all this conspiracy shit.
You need to do a go fund me immediately to get me out as soon as possible.
I'm not going to last.
This asshole is tight.
It won't be super long.
I won't come out the same.
So the hell's angels.

(01:22:43):
They came from the same area as all this paranormal shit, which ties into more paranormal
shit with the ultimate concert.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Did you say the hell's angels did a lot of paranormal shit?
No, they came from the same area with lots of paranormal shit happening.
Okay, sorry.
At the ultimate concert in I think it was 1969, which was also an instrument and destroyed

(01:23:07):
the hippie movement along with the Manson family murders.
Do you know the story of the ultimate concert?
No.
Oh, wait.
Is that the one where they hired the hell's angels to do?
It was supposed to be like the next...
What's that fucking called?
Woodstock.

(01:23:27):
Yeah, that's right.
You got it.
Okay, so it was the next woodstock.
They hired hell's angels to do security and they started fucking murdering people.
Be the shit out of people and then they murdered one guy or something like that.
Okay, yeah.
No, no.
I know a little bit about that.
Yeah, the hell's angels were doing security and it was during the Rolling Stones set that
things spiraled out of control and they stabbed and killed Meredith Hunter, one of the concert

(01:23:54):
goers there.
And it happened after they played sympathy for the devil.
It was actually a couple songs after.
It's not be sensational.
But they played sympathy for the devil and that's when the fighting started.
Squirmers just started breaking out.
And one of the guys from the Rolling Stones, it wasn't Mick Jagger.
It might have been Keith Richards said, something weird always happens when we play that

(01:24:14):
song.
Sivory for the devil, right?
And what strange is that at the same time in the 60s, this is why I'll never go to a concert.
It's weird energy.
It's weird.
It's weird energy.
Early stinks too.
Especially if it's outdoors.
It's be ogle or hot.

(01:24:35):
Hot as fuck.
I mean, and you're shoved in there.
You're not avoiding the stinky.
No.
It's getting on you.
It's going to touch your shoulder.
Somebody's going to have their arms up and sweat is going to drip on your fucking shoulder.
They're going to be shirts off.
They're going to be thrashing around sweat flying everywhere in your mouth.
It's never looked like.

(01:24:55):
Remember when the warp tour used to come around?
I said that looks like a fucking nightmare.
It never.
For one second, I would be like, oh, that's sad.
And then I was like, I think I'd hate that.
Yeah.
I went to the warp tour.
I saw him and I'm.
Did you like it?
I don't remember.
You're in the military.

(01:25:16):
Yeah.
I got pictures of Eminem on my shitty printed out, you know, non-digital photos.
Yeah.
It was crazy because it was a kind of small--
That was before he got real big.
Yeah.
I mean, he was big, but not like the way he became years later.
Anyway, what's interesting is that Mick Jagger was dabbling with the occult.

(01:25:40):
He was dating Mary Ann Faithful, who was a witch.
He was working with Kenneth Anger, who was a filmmaker, who wasn't occultist.
He followed us to Crowley.
He was filming a movie called Lucifer Rising, where Mick Jagger was supposed to play the
devil.
But after Altamon, all the spooky shit that happened, it spooked Mick Jagger.

(01:26:03):
And he was like, I'm not doing this shit no more.
And he quit fucking around with the occult.
Oh.
Yeah.
It was a weird situation.
And George Lucas was there filming a documentary for the Ultima before he was famous.
Okay.
He actually filmed a shot at the end of the documentary.
It shows like a full moon and a bunch of crazy fans running over this hill.

(01:26:25):
And there was multiple deaths.
Besides Meredith Hunter, there was a hit and run car accident there that night.
And there was a drowning in some irrigation canal.
It was for sure spooky vibes that night.
And the hell's angel was there.
And it was revealed in 2008, an FBI agent revealed that members of the hell's angels were

(01:26:47):
conspiring to kill Mick Jagger because the Rolling Stones were like, talking shit after the
concert like, hey, these fucking hell's angels were out of control.
And the people in the hell's.
Who is talking shit?
Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones.
Okay.
And the conspirators were going to use a boat to go up on long on to the place that Mick

(01:27:14):
Jagger was staying in New York there.
But the boat was sunk by a storm while they were out there trying to make it happen.
Wait, I'm sorry.
Mick Jagger was talking shit about the hell's angels.
The hell's angels were going to go fuck with Mick Jagger.
They were going to kill him.
They're going to go kill Mick Jagger because they were talking shit.

(01:27:36):
And they rented a boat or got into a boat and went to go onto an island that he was on.
Long Island, yeah.
Oh, he was on Long Island.
Yeah.
And so they were going to go on to Long Island with a, why the fucking boat?
I don't know.
Is it like bridges to Long Island?

(01:27:56):
You think they were just right there, hogs down there.
Okay.
So they're going to take the boat to go over there and then they got sunk in a storm.
Yeah.
Now to add more weirdness to that, that's exactly what happened with Jack Parsons and
now we're on Hubbard because Elron Hubbard stole Jack Parsons wife and they started some

(01:28:18):
boating company.
He also still has money.
Yeah, there was a lot of fucking shady deals with these two.
Okay.
And they started a boat company together and-
I want Hubbard as a guy with Scientology.
Yeah.
Okay.
He didn't like that he wanted to jerk off in front of him.
I guess he had it out enough.
He's like enough jerking off in front of me and the fucking-
Taking your bitch.

(01:28:38):
And then Jack Parsons did a magic spell to make a storm happen and it-
Or-
Or-
And worked and they got Elron Hubbard's boat fucked up.
But didn't kill him.
No.
Okay.
So anyway, lots of weird stuff.
The in conclusion is Sammy Hagar illuminate confirm.
I don't even know what that means so I don't know how to answer that.

(01:29:00):
It's a term that's gone so far.
He's obviously interested in to call things.
Hmm.
But then it gets interesting because he-
I think illuminate confirm is a weird term because it's like-
It is a weird term.
I don't-
You're right.
I don't know what that fucking means.
I don't know what it means anymore.

(01:29:20):
I've been saying it so long.
I don't even know how to describe what that means.
Means there's some of call activity going on.
Okay.
And Sammy Hagar-
But maybe it's like spooky versus illuminate.
Because the more spooky than it is illuminate confirm.
Yeah.
Is it spooky?
He's not in the illuminati.

(01:29:40):
Yeah, that's exactly because you think that you're saying that all of these people are
in the illuminati.
Hmm.
Meaning that they're making choices for the masses, right?
Yeah.
And do I think Sammy Hagar is?
No.
No.
That's fucking weird.
Or he's pushing the acceptance and the agenda of the-
Of accepting of occult a new age and alien activity.

(01:30:03):
But what if you saw an alien and they did like a fucking ritual, like they did something
on you, like a medical thing on you?
Yeah.
And then you're coming out here and you're like, bro, these fucking aliens put me in a
white room.
I have no idea what they did.
I woke up.
I know it for a fact.
I woke up.
Yeah.
That's illuminate confirmed me.
And then you're just trying to get people to understand and they're like, I think he's

(01:30:23):
in the illuminati.
What?
Damn it.
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
You know, illuminate confirmed me.
Damn dude, I want to get illuminate confirmed.
Wouldn't that be sad though?
You're like, what are you talking about?
I literally am telling you that aliens came into my bedroom while I was sleeping and they
did a medical experiment on me.

(01:30:46):
Yeah.
And they said these numbers and you're telling me I'm in the illuminati.
What are you talking about?
Well, everyone, we eat our own in the conspiracy world.
So I guess that's my fate eventually.
That's when I joined the motorcycle club.
Oh my god.
The ice.
And that's when I leave the minute you take the ice creamers, when you show that you meet

(01:31:12):
at the dairy queen to the fucking dorks.
The ice creamers.
I'm leaving.
We're the one percenter ice creamers.
Hey guys, let's meet this day at the A&W and then we'll go cruise together.
It's embarrassing.

(01:31:32):
Now, Sammy Higgler had a song called "Crack in the World" from an album called "Music
Chairs" from 1977.
And this is where the TikTok video, this is like the only things that she kind of brought
up that I was like, okay, that's pretty cool.
I'm going to read the lyrics.
It's a short set of lyrics.
It says, "I found out what it is that's been driving me mad.

(01:31:56):
There's no room to breathe between the good and the bad."
It's opposing polarities, by the way.
There's no room to breathe between the good and the bad.
Opposing polarities.
What do you mean?
It's just saying that there's...
The knowledge of good and evil.
Okay.
A crush in between, there's a thin thin line, but just around the corner, there's a change

(01:32:19):
in design.
I wish I could walk away and dig with the preachers, say, but those words don't satisfy me no more.
There's a crack, a crack in the world.
Just 50 more years, we're all going to know why, when, where, how, and who gets to go.
So let's all have a good time before the great divide, because things will start separating

(01:32:41):
come 2025.
So look for the subtle clues.
It won't make the front page news that depends upon which side that you choose.
There's a crack, there's a crack in the world.
So he's in 1977, after his disalien experience.
What was that?
The DNA experience?
What year was it?
1970 or '72?
Okay, so a few years later.

(01:33:03):
Yeah.
Okay.
He has this prophecy about 2025, but you'll notice.
And there's not much...
How did he get the prophecy?
Does he ever say?
There's...
I couldn't find virtually anything about this song online.
There's no Wikipedia page.
There's nothing.
Interesting.
Which goes back to your point of why these journalists are terrible.
They never ask the right questions.

(01:33:26):
All these interviews he's done over there is no one's been like, "Hey, dude, what do you
mean?"
Someone was going to have it in 2025, you know?
Was this a prophecy or was it just a song?
It was a song, but I have no idea what it means.
Okay.
And from what I, my short research, I couldn't confirm anything.
Maybe people out there, if anyone finds more about it, please send it to Isaac or me.

(01:33:47):
I should say.
The only thing I could find was there was a film from 1965 titled The Same Thing, Crack
in the World.
And what else I found interesting...
And we'll talk about that again here in a second.
But what I found interesting was that he says in 50 years, which would have actually taken

(01:34:10):
us to 2027, but he's saying that in 2025, a divide starts and in 2027, this great
crack will burst open of whatever this is going to happen, right?
So I think, "Okay, well, what's the divide starting right now in this year?"
You know, because he says there's going to be believers and non-believers, basically.

(01:34:31):
Okay.
And in the TikTok video, the girl says, "Well, look at the new alien documentary, the age
of disclosure video.
That's the big believers versus non.
It's referring to alien life."
And that could be good.
Could be accurate.
Good guess.
I would argue that maybe it's more along the lines of AI, which is tied into the alien

(01:34:55):
agenda too.
And another big thing they have in this year is an economic divide, right?
The big, beautiful bill, which is curious because Joe Biden had something similar.
The bill back better.
What's with the three Bs everywhere?
What about...
Oh, that's weird.
Two plus two plus two.
So numerology, the B, two plus two plus two equals six.

(01:35:17):
Hmm.
Kind of strange, right?
But AI is supposed to hit a singularity in 2027 from what I've seen online.
Okay.
So it could be that some people are going to believe in alien life and some people won't.
And that's the division by 2027.
We're going to have to make a choice.
And that's that digital matrix shit.

(01:35:38):
I don't see that happening that quick.
Quite frankly.
But what I was able to round out looking around online, a former CIA agent, former CIA agent
named John Ramirez said that in 2027, we're going to get alien disclosure.
It went 2027.

(01:35:58):
Oh, he gave an interview in 2023 on, it's called podcast UFO, I guess.
And he warned about the oncoming alien revelation in 2027.
He said that the recent disclosures, whistleblowers and underwater discoveries are all part of
an inner intentional narrative to prepare the population for the day the aliens show up.

(01:36:24):
A day he says is only a few years away.
He said, we're kind of preparing the US population at least and by extension, the world population
to that reality.
But there is a presence here and that we need to explain this presence because if they show
up and we continue to do what we did before in previous decades, there will be mass panic.

(01:36:46):
In many ways, I think the word got out within the government that they're showing up in 2027
and we better be prepared.
I've heard 2027 in kind of an official capacity.
I can't reveal.
I would say people in the government are aware of something happening and there is a limited
time a few more years to prepare the people.

(01:37:06):
Can we have Trump right now?
He's going to be there until 20.
I'm going to make it.
Well, it's him or Vance.
Thank God.
Just dance Vance.
God.
The.
Now, Ramirez also says that he got into a fist fight with the shape-shifting lizard person.
So I don't know.

(01:37:27):
I don't know what to believe.
But that movie that is a member Madonna had a song.
Yes, she did.
Her encuevo did that song.
Not going to come.
But the future, not all of us are going to make it, not all of us are going to last.

(01:37:50):
And I think also, what was it?
Grimes was interviewed and Grimes was kind of saying how there's going to be a big loss
of humanity.
Really?
What the fuck did they doing?

(01:38:12):
So that interesting that movie crack in the world I found.
I looked into it.
I never seen it.
The director's name is Andrew Marton.
Martin, not Martin, but Marton.
And on Wikipedia, it says this about him.
He says he joined a German expedition to Tibet in 1934 where he filmed, deemed it as

(01:38:32):
the Himalayas, Marton cited that he was Jewish as a reason that the film could not be released
the one demon of the Himalayas with his name as director, citing a conversation he had
with Nazi propaganda minister Joseph Gables.
What?
Yeah.
I mean, these are all very occulted things.

(01:38:54):
The Nazis Tibet.
Tibet was where supposedly there was a lot of, there was topos.
This idea that you can magically manifest entities, which ties into alien lore and Helena
Blavatsky and crazy shit.
And then fun fact to wrap it up and close out with the 80s director John Landis, sites

(01:39:20):
Andrew Marton as his mentor.
John Landis, he did all the great 80s movies.
I mean, there's not a lot of alien shit to sort of that.
You were trying to do a mic drop moment and I don't know.
Like, can you believe it?
No, I don't fucking know who that is.
John Landis, he did, let me go down the list here.

(01:39:41):
There's a lot of duds on here, but let's get the good ones.
He did animal house, blues brothers, American werewolf and London trading places, twilight zone
in the movies, spies like us, three amigos, Amazon women on the moon, coming to America.
Eddie Murphy, by the way, couple Eddie Murphy's, Beverly Hills, cop three and kind of some
duds.

(01:40:01):
Jeff Goldblum and into the night.
You see that?
No.
Okay.
A staple in 80s movies.
So lots of strange connections here.
Steve Spielberg next year is releasing an alien movie.
That's the alien movie of all alien movies.
Like a movie or like a fucking doc movie.

(01:40:24):
Okay.
The claim that he's got footage of that's the close encounters of the third kind that he
filmed.
Uh-huh.
The claim that he's got he's seen footage of alien autopsy.
No.
So it could be disclosure is coming in 2027 based on maybe one day, maybe keep buying
documentaries on Amazon till they want to tell us the truth.

(01:40:49):
So insane.
Slow roll out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe they're trying to make sure that people don't lose their minds.
Maybe.
And maybe it's working because the sentiment you see online anytime there's an alien disclosure
topic.
And I agree with all the people.
I don't think they're wrong.

(01:41:09):
Uh-huh.
Is like, I don't have time for this shit right now.
Yeah.
I don't give a fuck.
I've got my own problems right now.
Yeah.
And I kind of get that attitude.
So maybe that's by design.
Maybe that's why they're tanking the economy right now.
So that we are to hungry.
We are a little bit.
Yeah.
Too hungry to care.

(01:41:30):
Too hungry to care.
Because look at it, man, we remember 10 years ago we were all up in arms about plastic straws
and plastic bags and worried about this.
I'm in a garbage of plastic.
So much microplacic in our bodies.
It's in your balls.
It's in your brain.
You're filled with it.
We cared about those things at one time.

(01:41:51):
I don't care.
I don't give a fuck anymore.
And now I'm like, I don't know.
Sounds good.
Sounds great.
Like, but it's disrupting my into chrome system.
And now I'm like, I don't care.
Whatever.
Whatever.
That apathy they're driving into us and it's to reveal the truth about aliens.
I mean, they still don't use plastic, but.

(01:42:13):
Yeah, we still don't try to avoid it, but you go what I'm saying without problems were
different.
So there you go.
Sammy Hague, our fascinating rabbit hole we went down today, everybody.
That's pretty interesting.
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(01:42:34):
And if you hustle, you can get in there before you get tier two and get a shout out for
the December shout outs, which we're going to do the next episode.
So you got to move quick.
Okay, that's all I got.
That's good.
It's awesome.
Alright, everybody.
Thanks.
And you're going to do another poll on your patreon.
So you don't want to get in on the next poll, the next survey.

(01:42:55):
It's going to be about, do you like being around sick people?
Yes or no?
My family is the biggest offenders of this.
They don't give a fuck if they're sick.
It's like the coffin.
They'll do that bullshit thing where they'll like turn their head into their elbow and coffin

(01:43:17):
to their elbow.
Okay.
Like you're pretending to give a shit if they do anything.
If and I'm like, just put your fucking shirt over your face.
Like try and stop it a tiny bit for fuck's sake.
Keep your germs on your body and keep that body away from me.
Or if you like, if you have to go like sometimes like some people don't have the choice of missing

(01:43:42):
something or they really like want to do something, I get that to a certain degree.
But it's like, put a fucking mask on, dude.
Yeah.
Well, I can't wait to see what there's results of this survey.
As your last survey, got a ton of comments.
Did you see them all?
I've got to go back on there.
I've been busy.
It's been Thanksgiving.
My mom's knee got replaced and get my ass handed to me.

(01:44:03):
Crazy times.
It has been crazy.
So yeah, I'm going to go on there and start looking and seeing.
I tried to chat as much as I can, but I've gotten busy.
Shut down mode for Josie for the holiday.
Oh, shut down mode.
I wish I was in shut down mode.
I get pulled in lots of directions.
So I think it'll be better now.

(01:44:23):
We're almost, we're hidden into our third week of a knee replacement on the one of the
loves of my life, my mother, and so I can pull back a little bit more.
Not that we were doing a crazy time, but she lives 20 minutes away, so it makes it hard.
And then to add a Thanksgiving on top of it, my goodness.

(01:44:49):
Just a lot.
All right, folks.
There you go.
There's the full sob story.
Shut up.
I don't know.
All right.
Okay.
Thanks for listening.
Till next time, we love you.
Thank you.
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