What is Methlyene Blue: Weight Loss Miracle Drug, Alex Jones, RFK Jr & More!

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If you've seen Alex Stone Cold Jones getting shredded with the Navy Seals on Info Wars or maybe

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R.F.K. Junior drinking mysterious blue liquid on the planes or maybe you've seen episode
14 of the pit and they talked about someone with a condition that required this mystery
drug called Methylene Blue Well Today.
We're going to unpack what this weight loss miracle drug is and what it actually stands
for.
Joe, see if you heard of Methylene Blue.

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I, in fact, have.
Oh, you have.
I have on my TikTok.
Okay.
People are pedaling it.
Well, that's what they do.
And today we're going to go through what it is from a biochemistry nerd perspective from

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what I could understand.
I'm going to tell you what it does to your body and then we're going to talk about what
I found doing some research into Mr. Alex Jones's Info Wars.
He's under working out with the Navy Seals and he's getting real shredded.
He is on Ozenbik.
He said he's not bullshit.
Why would Alex Jones lie?

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Why would he lie?
Is he ever lied ever before?
Well, today I'm going to give you some hot takes on what I think about it.
I'll probably surprise a lot of you as we'll take on it.
Maybe, maybe not.
I don't know.
You're going to have to wait till the conclusion to find out what I think about it with Josie
thinks about it.
Josie seems a little skeptical right off the bat.
I know.
I'm skeptical of him.

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I don't think that after I go through everything I have to go through, you're going to be less
skeptical.
So, yeah, we're going to walk through it and talk about what this is and if people should
try it, maybe even I don't know.
I don't know.
But we got a little housekeeping.
I got to do some tier two shout outs.
Josie's got a very important commentary.
It's not important.
I'm just annoyed.

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Breaking news everybody.
We got an important statement.
No, I don't.
No?
Okay.
No.
Now, as you know, if you listen to this show, it's only made possible by our loving supporters
and you could be one of those patreon.com/bringssocialnorms and we have a tier two.

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And tier two folks get an extra special shout out because they give us a little extra special
incentive.
Alright.
So, every month we go through the list, you guys voted on this couple months ago and you
said you wanted us to keep doing it.
So, overwhelming.
Yeah.
Overwhelming.
I love it.
So, that's fun.
Good.
You know, you never know because like, you don't know if the people out there are just like,
I get it, dude.
You say my name.
I appreciate it.

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I'm just here to support the show.
You know what it kind of reminds me of is like, you remember when you would go to Cold Stone
and you'd give them a tip and they would have to sing you a song for their tip.
We had an analogy.
So, I thought I was like, do they want this song?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I wasn't sure.
Well, lots of you got lots of, lots of sign ups in the last few weeks I've noticed on

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your Patreon.
And as well as the Apple Premium.
Now, the Apple Premium is a great way to support it.
Also, it's much easier.
You know, you mash the button you're in.
I keep me into raising price on it because Apple takes a big fat cut out of that.
So it's not even Stevens for us on our end.
But.
Yeah, it's fine.
But it is.
The show, not me.
I'm a cut throat capitalist.
I would raise that Apple price if I would you, but hey.

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Well, whatever.
The difference is that like, I don't know how to get onto the Apple Premium.
And so I feel like there's no like conversation that can be had over.
I like to talk to people.
I think it's fun chatting with people.
Absolutely.
And that's why Patreon is the best place to do it.
You can read other people's comments on the show.

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You can directly message Josie herself.
Make her some questions.
Yeah, like I like that.
So it feels like they're just putting money in idle.
And then there's no communication that can happen.
And I'm like, okay, well, that's what you guys want to do.
But it's easy.
If you're on the Apple app and you're like, I love the Apple podcast app.
And I don't want to mess with creating a new Patreon and all this other crap and a credit

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card.
Like you can just mash the button on Apple and you'll get the ad free.
That's great.
And that's great.
But we're talking about Patreon here too right now.
We're going to go down the list.
Brand in which appears to be a new one.
Brand new.
All right.
Shout out Brandon.
Ashley Richie Delayty to Nata.
Christopher.
Oh Christopher, he's a big supporter over on the called symbolism show.

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Shout out, shout out.
Actually, you get a double triple shout out.
Cat, Denyan Cypress, Lynn.
Oh, I was just drinking out of the coffee.
Giovanni, Glam, Gazzinghi.
A lot of these are people I recognize from a called symbolism.
So shout out to all you double, double dippers.
Arsaris, Skinny Fresh, of course.
Lorraine, Trisha, Jamsey, Cheryl, Cheryl's the best.

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Francine and Taren.
Thank you everyone for supporting the show.
You guys are the best.
Thank you.
You do love us.
In fact, is the name of the tear.
So that's the, what is it?
April.
April shout out.
So if you want to support the show, you know what I do.
I know what to do.
I know what to do.
I know what to do.
I know what to do.
I know what to do.

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Okay.
Now, before we get into discovering this main.
The major breakthrough of Masteline Blue.
What did you want to talk about, Josie?
Well, I'm having a tiff on TikTok with people.
You don't say?
Yeah, I don't say.
But it's not the Josie trauma count.
Yes, but it's not a fair fucking tiff because everything I say, I have to word my shit so

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carefully.
And I can't be is I'm fighting with people's children on on TikTok.
Okay.
And they fucking keep censoring me and they keep taking my, my stupid post off of there for
community guidelines.
Oh, they owe it.
That's how they get you.
So your pieces, shit kids can sit there and tell me that nobody likes me.

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And I can't tell them that they're fucking garbage, which is not fair.
Honestly.
Okay.
So this is what's going on.
And I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to capture the, take talk and I'm going
to stick it on the on Patreon.
Oh, okay.
And then let's see, let's have a conversation over here with like the adults because I can't

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fucking deal with people's children.
Oh, what's it all about?
I want to know what this is about.
There's only a few parents on there.
And the rest of them are kids and kids are morons.
So anyways, this is what the TikTok is for those who aren't going to watch it.
It's a teacher who is saying to a student and the student is saying, hey, I have to go to

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the bathroom.
It's a medical reason.
There's a note in my, in my chart, I have to be let, I have to be able to go to the bathroom.
And he goes, the teacher then says to her, well, then stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
And she's like, it's a medical condition.

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I have to go.
And my whole thing was, is this.
We are, everybody in the comments, I look at this and I'm like, well, that teacher is a
piece of shit.
Like that's not fair.
You shouldn't do that to children.
It's literally a health concern, right?
So not cool and he shouldn't be able to do that.

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But this is my caveat with it.
There were parents in the, in the comment section that was saying, just get up and go to the
bathroom.
To the kid.
To the kid.
Okay.
And I was saying, for parents to say that is kind of outrageous, that there is an inherent,

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you don't have to respect the teacher because the teacher was wrong.
Like that teacher was wrong.
But there needs to be some kind of respect given to authority figures, especially when
you're a child, that police officers, judges, bosses, teachers, the title itself deserves

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respect.
And even though this teacher was wrong and police officers can be wrong and judges can
be wrong and authority figures that have, that are in places of power have to have their
power checked.

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But there is an appropriate way of doing that check of power.
And so what I was trying to say is like, hey, listen, it's not cool that you tell your children
to not comply.
And an appropriate way of handling this is teaching your kids how to have conflict resolution.

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And that it's important to go in there and teach your child, not do it for them, but help
give your kid the confidence to not just get up and walk out and do whatever the fuck you
want to do, whatever you want to do it, but to have an actual conversation with this
teacher and maybe even a conversation school wide of saying, okay, here's my doctor's note

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of my medical condition is to why she was that diabetic.
She had to go in and do whatever she had to, I don't know what the fuck.
She had to do it.
She's a diabetic and she had to have access to the bathroom.
And my suggestion to her was listen, you are going to have to learn to have conflict resolution
in your workplace when you're dealing with police officers.

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When you're, if you get hemmed up and you got to go into to deal with a judge, like there
are places that you have to have some kind of compliance with things that are wrong and
you have to learn how to work around them in an appropriate manner.
Well, did this, did this student, is the student a boy or girl?

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A girl or cat?
Is it a cat?
I hear those cats school.
Is it, so the girl did, did they show a video clip?
Did she try to, did she try to mediate with the teacher before you need that?
No, that's not the point.
No, there, it doesn't continue on.
It's just a 30 second clip and then it's whatever.
Who filmed it?
Someone else in the class?
A student of, of her arguing with the teacher, like, hey, I got a bit.

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Yes, all of the kids arguing with the teacher and then one kid was like, you're a racist.
Oh, so all the kids ganged up on the teacher.
Yes.
Okay.
And so, and that's okay.
I think that that's like the back and forth of like, of a, of a conversation, not that you
should call people racist, but like, I think that there should be a place in like schools

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to have these conversations to whatever.
Like, okay.
A teacher should say something and then maybe he's a more relaxed classroom and the conversation
can ensue, like a group class, a class conversation.
I think that's actually brilliant.
But to just say, get up and go to the bathroom is, I mean, if she's having a medical emergency

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yes, right?
If her blood sugars are plummeting and she's going to have an episode, she needs to go to the
bathroom, right?
But if it's not that dire, the other option is this.
I'm just saying parents fucking blow.
I guess is what I'm trying to say.
The fuck is wrong with you?

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What is fucking wrong with parents?
This is bizarre.
To not teach your children to have any kind of, it's like they give them all of this confidence
to be outrageous, but nothing to help them learn how to actually do a conflict resolution.

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What the fuck is wrong with you?
I just think it's funny because this is such a, this is such a you, this is your Greek side
and you, I think there's a valid, absolutely valid discussions and need to be had.
But when I file it, when I, when I look at this situation, I think, I don't give a fuck.

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We don't have kids.
They, I've got other things I want to think about.
I don't care, but you're like in there in the weed.
I will fight, I've fought with these fucking piece of shit kids for like three days of saying,
no, is it kids or parents?
There's a couple parents in there, but mostly it's children.
But my point is, is like you guys are not listening to what I'm saying.

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I'm saying because they're like this.
You remember what was like being a kid in school?
You're so, you have, you have very little power as a child and you're in the school.
But we had very limited power as a child.
All right, that's better.
The children nowadays run the fucking roost.

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They think that they're equals, that their opinion matters.
Okay.
And that's what's fucking weird to me.
It is weird.
I don't understand that.
I don't like people's children.
I don't want anything bad to happen to them like I want them to be fine, but I want them
to have.
That's why you're having this discussion with them.
Yes, because I don't want them to get hurt.

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And I don't want life to be hard for them.
It's arguable that I care about people's kids less than you because I would just scroll
fast.
Whatever, it's your fucking dumb life you're going to deal with it and you're trying to
correct the behavior.
That's what I'm trying to say.
I'm trying to get them to understand is like you're going to make your life really fucking
hard.
If you think you're going to have any authorities that you ever have to deal with, that's
an insane view to have.

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It's an insane and painful, long road ahead of you.
To think that life is just going to be fair and you're never going to have to deal with
obnoxious people.
You're never going to have to work for someone that's jumping off of power and is wrong and

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wants to screw you.
And that is literally wrong.
Like that guy is wrong.
You cannot do that.
That's outrageous.
She literally has a note and this needs to kind of be addressed, but it needs to be addressed
in the appropriate way where you where the parent go.
Maybe not even the parent should say out of this.
This is a teenager.
What the parent should do is help get their child comfortable with talking to this teacher

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and talking with the principal because it gets a feather in their cap of being like, "Okay,
I had a problem and I resolved it like an adult."
And that's what parents should be doing.
Not fucking steamrolling.
All of the problems out of their children's way.
So I think that the parent should be like, "Okay, I printed you out your doctor's note

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that we have on the school and your school file that you should have access to it."
And I think you should talk to the principal and say that he is not allowing people to
go to the restroom because they are not wanting to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance
or they're not wanting to stand, I don't know, the National Anthem or whatever it was.
And that we have a constitution in our country and we are allowed to protest.

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Like if you are sitting because you don't want to stand for that, there is a reason that
you are allowed to do that and he cannot force you, literally cannot force you to do that.
And you can have that conversation with them and then have and resolve it.
Yes.
But make sure you are way stronger.

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I would make them feel like, "I changed some opinions today.
I did something good.
Not just get up and walk out of the room like an asshole."
But that's outrageous.
Yeah, they are advocating for a fight and like those kids are going to lose that fight 100%
of the time.
I don't think.
I don't think.
I don't think.
I don't think.

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Anyone who has an authority figure, like you are not going to win that battle.
If you are at work, I think teachers are rolling over on these kids because they are such
assholes now, kids are gross and their parents have made them really obnoxious with this idea.
Just as a person who doesn't have a child and is looking at how we are raising these children,
confidence is at a fucking 20 out of 10.

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They feel real confident for no fucking reason.
For no reason.
And I am just like, "Wow, okay."
To bitch about it a little bit more, parents are so...
Busy moving all of the obstacles out of their children's ways and trying to make childhood

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be so magical that how is adulthood ever going to live up to childhood?
I got into another argument with another group of fucking parents because there is this male,
did I say this before, this male waxer, aesthetics guy, wouldn't wax a 15 year old girl.

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And he's like, "I don't feel comfortable doing this, I'm not going to do this."
The mother was like, "Well, I'll be in the room with you.
I just, we got to get going.
You just got a waxer."
A bikini wax.
And the conversation was, was the mom weird for pushing to have this guy wax his female,

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her female daughter, right?
And my question was, we're getting fucking bikini waxes on 15 year olds.
That seems outrageous.
When I was a kid, I'd go buy Sally Henson's fucking Shitty-ass wax strips that would rip half
of your goddamn skin off.

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Shitty Sally Henson.
Or Nads.
I'd buy Nads every once in a while.
But mostly you just shave because you're a dumb fucking kid.
Why do you have to have baby smooth skin at 15?
I got you.
That's the, I don't know what any of this means, but like, is that the idea is that you wouldn't
spend that kind of money on a child because they don't need to have the same, I don't know,

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is it bikini wax better than shaving or whatever?
I don't know.
What's the, I don't understand the difference.
And I think that like shaving can give you razor bumps.
Okay.
But there's things out there like if you got salicylic acid and you rub salicylic acid on
the bikini area after you shave, it will help exfoliate it and keep the pores clear so

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that you don't get razor bumps.
I see.
I mean, maybe in extreme cases where they get really bad razor bumps, I could maybe see
that, but like, just in general, taking a 15 year old, I guess in my head, I'm like, the
great thing about being an adult is spending, is earning money and spending it on adult things.

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Yeah.
Like you get to feel like an adult because I've earned some money and now I've decided to
take care of my body the way I want to do it because now I have, I have the means to do
that and I'm going to go and treat myself to a bikini wax.
Oh, I see.
I see where you're going with that.
So to me, it's like taking a 15 year old to Ruth Chris steakhouse when they would, they

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don't have the sort of palate to appreciate a 100 hour steak.
Maybe they do.
Maybe they love it and they have a great experience.
Where the point is, is that there's nothing to look forward to going to work all the time.
It's fucking grueling.
Having children and having to make your entire existence about your children is fucking grueling.

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It's hard.
It's rewarding, but it's hard and it's endless.
Being an adult is endless work.
You are cooking.
You are going to work and you are cleaning your house and taking care of shit.
It gets us a constant taking care of shit and trying to stay in shape, which is what the

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methylene blue will get into later here soon.
Well, it's all fucking work.
Right.
I understand because I would feel the same.
I know what you mean because if I remember, I don't want to be the person telling the
same stories over and over, but fucking here we are.
I remember wanting to go to McDonald's as a child.
It was the best thing ever.

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We didn't go to McDonald's often.
We'd go to McDonald's and I'd get maybe a happy meal or whatever.
Great memories.
It was special.
It was special.
It was special.
Nowadays, it's just like it's lunch every day or they have them at school or whatever.
I remember when I got my first job and it was right next to the McDonald's as at a car

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wash and I was making, I don't know what it was, three or four bucks an hour, but you'd work,
I'd work eight hours shifts on the weekend, 16 hours and your paycheck would be, you know,
50, 60 bucks, whatever it was.
It was nothing.
And I remember, everyone would always go to McDonald's for lunch and I'd be like, "What
are you doing?"
Like we're here all weekend to make a little bit of bucks and you're going to blow it all

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on the McDonald's, but I wanted it.
They would come in with the McDonald's.
It smells so good.
I was like, "Damn what the fuck are McDonald's?"
You know McDonald's.
But now as an adult, I can look back and appreciate it every time we go to McDonald's if we're on
the road and we're like, "Let's get a cheeseburger."
Yeah.
Like I still appreciate it to this day and I'm like, "This is awesome."
Yeah.
Like in a little way, right?

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It's adult, funny.
It's having that way of like, it's the little victories of life of being in the adult.
Yeah.
Like having your own money and being able to spend your money the way you want to spend it.
And you're robbing it from your kids when you let them have their children.
You're robbing after your children.
Yes.
You're robbing it.
You are taking it.
You got nothing to look forward to.
Exactly.

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That's my exact point.
That's your point with the, wait a minute, which tick talk are we talking about?
I'm talking about the bikini wax.
The bikini wax.
The bikini wax.
If getting bikini waxes at 15 is the norm, that's normal life and not a treat.
What the fuck are we talking about?
There's no treats in life anymore.

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Everything is just the way it's up.
That's just what you do.
And that takes the joy out of being an adult.
It takes the joy out of the capital system, which, you know, because the best, okay, the
best time of your life is arguing it is being a child.
Like you don't have to worry about paying mortgage.
You're just going to school.

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It's like, it's fucking miserable.
I hated it.
But that's because I was fucking poor, you know what I mean?
And it was like, watching my mom cry over bills and not having enough money and coming home
and lights and water was turned off and phone was turned off or, but other than that, it was
like spending time with my friends being fucking bored.

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Like those kinds of things, it was the best time of that.
Having Christmas, like waking up to a Christmas breakfast or whatever.
Those were really fun memories of treats.
Having Saturday, we don't, they have cartoons 24 hours a day whenever they fucking want.
That's a great analogy.

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I used to look forward to Saturday morning cartoons.
To be fair, like I do remember that the Saturday morning was like the pinnacle of cartoon
watching.
However, I do remember cartoons were on during the week.
After school.
After school, yeah.
You would get right before school.
I would know that when Muppet Babies was on half way, about 15 minutes after Muppet
Babies started, I had to go walk out to the bus.

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Then, when I got home, it was like duck tails and animating acts.
So would you, but so you could argue that, but that wasn't access whenever the fuck I wanted.
That's true, like streaming, streaming on demand.
Right.
And I'm not saying you have to take everything away from your child to make them appreciate
anything.
I'm just saying that like, don't give them fucking everything.

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Don't tell them to walk out of a classroom unless it's like a for real medical emergency.
That's a different story.
But there's no respect given.
There's no, these, these, these little maniacs aren't acting like children.
They're acting like little adults.
They, I'm sorry, they're acting like little children, like throwing fits.

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But they think they're fucking 40.
Because they're doing adult things.
Yes.
Mixing with acting juvenile.
Yes.
It's outrageous.
Totally.
I get it.
And I just, I'm like looking at parents.
And I listen to them.
I'm like, woo, you guys, this is not looking so hot.
And it's a little embarrassing for you.
And I get met with, I tell my parents, I tell my child to walk out of that.

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And I'm like, I know you would, because look at all these fucking shitty kids that you're
making.
Your kids, not any different than any of the other fucking piece of shit kids.
And they think that the only way they give respect is if respect is given.
And it's like, that is not how that works.
That's just not how that works.
Be a respectful person.

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Raise respectful children.
And I think it's also teaching them, like impulse control problems.
Yes.
You know?
Yes.
There's all kinds of reasons for you to like have your child learn critical thinking skills.
Have your child learn how to conflict resolute teaching your child, not doing everything,

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not bulldozing the world out of your child's way, not fighting all of your kids's fights for
that.
It's probably part of the reason the military has a recruiting problem.
Yeah.
Face drain for me was easy, because it was like, all right, I'm used to this.
Like getting dull, what to do and just doing it, right?
Right.
A lot of people are hard time with it.
And then when they get into like, Texcourt and after they spiral immediately and like,
they're doing crazy shit and they get kicked out, because they can't handle it.

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Yeah.
I just am saying slow down and stop thinking, I think people see their little, their children
and they look like little bit like them.
And they want them to have this like experience of life that doesn't fucking exist.
But in that want, you are robbing your child of self esteem, of learning, of self esteem

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and of the ability to function as an adult.
Yeah, totally.
Problem resolution and I think they're really going to have to figure out.
Yes.
Quick.
You think that they're never going to have a shitty boss that tells them to do stupid things?

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No.
That's not going to happen.
You think they're not going to run across a power hungry police officer that is going
to put them in danger?
No, that is not going to happen.
That they exist in this world.
You are putting them in danger of losing jobs, of being hurt by police officers, of having

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tough consequences if they're not, if they're argumentative to judges.
You are putting them at a disadvantage by not teaching them these skills as children so
that they can function as adults in life.
What's that?

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Well said.
It just drives me fucking nuts.
And then you know what else bugs me?
Watching those pieces shit fucking parents that go go trick or treating with their kids and
dump the entire, the entire bowl of candy for their shitty ass kids.
What do you mean they dump it where?
They catch them on the ring cameras of like people put their bowl of candy out and they

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please take one.
The parents will take the whole bowl of candy for the kids.
Oh, that's insane.
It's fucking nuts.
It's execute them on the spot.
Embarrassing.
That's terrible.
Embarrassing.
It's so fucking embarrassing.
I haven't seen that.
I'll give you 30 videos of it.
It's disgusting.

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Be adults.
This is so embarrassing for you.
I, there is a lack of maturity in culture that is outrageous to me.
Just like I was like, I was arguing with one of my clients at the salon because they were
talking about how great Elon Musk was.
And I'm like, he's not great.
He's a piece of shit.

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And here's three different reasons to why.
And he's like, well, that the old thing wasn't a big deal.
He was just showing a flaw in their coding.
And he, I go, no, he wasn't.
He was toting himself as being number seven in the fucking world.
That is not the same.
He was lying to people saying that he was number seven.

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And then it came out that he was not capable of like, of work of playing at that level.
And then he, and then he flipped it to say, oh, no, I was just going to show you that there's
a coding error.
Or this is a way to get around.
I go, listen, I guess I'll, I just admire.
What's the word?

(29:45):
What is the word I'm looking for?
The, like, if you're a stand up person integrity, that's the word I said.
I admire integrity in people.
And you think it's a fucking waste of time.
It's this, this idea of anything for money, anything for clout.
It is a weird fucking idea that all of this is normal.
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(30:09):
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It's disgusting to me.
When I went through basic, not to talk about the military again, but when I went through

(30:31):
basic training in the Air Force, that's the core values as integrity first, service
for yourself.
Excellent.
And all we do.
They told me in basic training, they said, because I was 18, they said, when you get out
there in the world, the real world, you're going to find that most people don't have these
core values.
And I didn't understand that at the time, but as I get older, I see it.
I see people lying about things that they don't even need to lie about and they lie about

(30:54):
it.
And it's funny.
You bring that up because in my analysis of, of Mastoline Blue, I talk about this exact
situation because you would never believe some major breaking updates in our saga about
Ian Carroll and Candace Owens.
If people listen to the five hour mega deep dive into the house and have a drama that apparently

(31:17):
nobody wanted.
Did you get any comments on that or what?
A few.
A few.
Wow.
We were so excited.
We're like, oh, everyone's going to love these.
They're going to be eating this up.
I know.
I thought we'd have put signups though.
A bunch of signups on the Apple and Patreon.
So I guess a lot of people liked it, but surprisingly not a lot of conversation.
Not a lot of conversation around it.

(31:37):
But anyway, we talked about Candace Owens.
I guess that's what I think that that's what I judge like if people love an episode is
that we will have conversations either on Instagram or Patreon that it'll drive communication
of people.
I thought that was juicy.
I was like, dude, they're going to be lightening up the comments.
I thought it was juicy too.

(31:58):
Anyway, on that series we talked about Candace Owens and you'll never believe the development
that Ian Carroll appeared on the Candace Owens show.
I haven't seen it yet.
I got it queued up.
Where's it at?
Let me tell you what happened.
Is Candace Owens, is she against Donald Trump now?
Who knows?
I think she's for whoever pays her the most money.

(32:20):
Most of these people are.
Where does it have the date?
Cool YouTube.
There's no date.
Oh, here we go.
That's a three days ago.
She had Ian Carroll on.
I saw a couple clips on Twitter.
Okay.
And they're talking about, I couldn't believe it, questioning Elon Musk's, uh, Daggerty,

(32:43):
based upon Ian Carroll talks about based upon this video game debacle that you're talking
about exactly.
The Diablo.
Yes.
Really?
I was like, is Ian Carroll coming to the right team?
Fuck.
Well, welcome everyone with open arms from Alex Jones, the ink, Alex has lost calls, I
think he's, he's incorporated the Twitter ex logo into his name, Alex now.
What a fuck your bot sold for dude.

(33:05):
What a tour.
Constantly glazing Elon Musk.
I'm like, bro, you're fucking done.
I don't know how people are still listening to him that support him and like, dude, he's
literally doing all the technocrat, transhuman shit you've been crying about for 20 years.
It's insane to me.
Yeah.
But hey, whatever.
Um, but yeah, all these, all these characters play a part in the Methlean Blue saga.
All right, let's go to it.

(33:25):
You want to do it?
Yes.
Are we ready?
We're ready.
Okay.
I'm done complaining about parents.
People love it when you complain about kids and mothers and parents.
They love it.
I think it's the thing they love about me the most.
Yeah.
Oh, you are a divisive character in this world.
I just, I see children and I want them to do well in life.

(33:51):
They just don't understand you.
No, it's not me being like hating kids.
It's me looking at this and saying, what the fuck are you doing?
Like I said, I clearly hate kids more than you because I wouldn't even stop the comment
or even watch the video.
I don't give a fuck with that kid's doing school.
Fuck you.
No, I want to do my mind.
And you're trying to correct that trying to correct uh, disruptive behavior.

(34:12):
They won't benefit you.
They want them to be smart and be educated and well-rounded and may and get through life
and have a beautiful life that they can be successful in.
You care about people.
I can't do my to my detriment of being now.
I got their shitty piece of shit kids telling me nobody that you can it and nobody likes

(34:33):
yeah.
Fuck you.
I would be so goddamn mean.
I'm so good at being fucking mean.
If they would quit taking my comments off, I would rip your children to shreds on these
things.
Like the biggest social nanny media there is out of all.
Yeah, but they can say shit.

(34:54):
These little kids can say garbage to people but and nobody stop in that.
Yeah.
And I can't be a piece of shit back to them.
Like I tried to be nice and say this isn't going to work out in your benefit in the long
run.
You can't just like we have to learn these skills.
It's fine.
I was like, I think I said one that got pulled down.

(35:14):
I was like, your parents suck and you're going to suck.
That's what this is going to this is what's happening here.
But that's against community guidelines, I guess.
We're about to get kicked off everything.
Everything I upload to Twitter or up to low to TikTok now gives me the under review comment
when I upload it.
Literally if I comment on something, it's I get under review.

(35:35):
Oh, both of us.
So now listen.
My red pill journey started with health and nutrition.
As you recall.
I do.
I walk through.
I've got a three hour show on my podcast.
Who is Isaac Wysob?
If you really want to know all the gory details, we'll skip all that.
But health is basically one of the gateways into conspiracy thinking.

(35:59):
Because what it does is it teaches you that all the things you thought were the healthy
ways of living maybe aren't really the truth.
You know?
And it depends on how far down the rabbit hole you want to go.
But it you start questioning things.
You're like, wait a minute.
Why have they sold me food that's like not healthy for me?
You know, why would I go to why do they treat the symptoms and not the cause?

(36:24):
All these things right?
Big farm and all that.
And that's what today shows about kind of it's a little bit about health.
And it's a lot about Alex Stone Cold Jones.
Who is one of my red pill daddies?
I more of a red pill step daddy, I would say, you know, a drunken uncle at the dinner.

(36:48):
But he's still there.
He's still there.
Still got a love for him.
Per beat red slamming on the table.
Yeah.
I mean, I think he's currently lost with his admiration of Elon Musk.
But hey, that's all right.
Because guess what he would say about me?
All these communist, communist, I think wise up.

(37:11):
All right, comrade or whatever, you know, that's okay.
We can disagree.
I'm right.
100% and I will stand vindicated as we will cover in this show later on.
I will talk to you about the growing tide supporting coming our way.
Finally, thank God.
People finally waking up that the conspiracy theorists may have been misled.

(37:35):
Here, here, they are.
I didn't know that.
I see cracks in all the foundation everywhere.
Finally, finally.
And one of those cracks in the foundation is a guy that I don't follow.
The guy from natural news.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
No.
I think his name is like the health ranger.

(37:56):
He's a big name in the conspiracy world because he.
Health ranger.
Yeah, health ranger.
What's his real name?
Ranzar website that I used to go to often to try to look up stuff.
What's his damn name?
Oh boy, he's a pseudo science guy, right?
Natural news.
There we go.

(38:16):
Natural news, what Mike Adams?
Geez, there we go.
Mike Adams from natural news.
He sells like a lot of supplementation stuff.
But he kind of is, I mean, depending on who you consult with, like Wikipedia claims,
I'm just going to read you from Wikipedia says natural news is a far right anti-vaccination
conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience,

(38:40):
disinformation and far right extremism.
And he used to not be ultra right wing from what I remember.
I mean, we're talking a long time ago used to check on his website.
He's like one of those sort of like raw food kind of, ultra granola types.
Okay.
Anyway.
I saw on his Twitter, popped on my four U page that he's like, shitting on Trump and these

(39:04):
tariffs.
You know, it might work.
It might sink his ship.
It's going to sink the ship.
Anyway, we're so sorry about that.
I mean, we're the most like supplements come from.
You're probably sourcing them from.
I don't know.
I think the world, yeah, lots of the ingredients have to come from all over the world.

(39:25):
And the little plastic pill things you refill them with and the plastic bottles and the labels
on the bottle and the caps.
Yeah.
I mean, not all of those things are made in America.
No.
So everyone's looking at losing some money on this deal, right?
Oh, it's most of our oats come from Canada.
Mm-hmm-hmm.
So that'll be fun.

(39:47):
So, but I want to preface this episode.
We are not health professionals.
This is not medical advice.
I read a variety of sources to try to make sense of what methylene blue is, all right?
Okay.
Now, as I said in the intro, what am I?
What am I?
Clients is a pharmacist.
I should have texted her.
Oh, no.

(40:08):
And ask her about this.
Okay.
Well, because in the conclusion, I will tell you what I think about it.
And, you know, maybe I'll take it.
I don't know.
We'll see.
Oh.
Okay.
RFK Jr. was on the news because in an airplane, someone sent a video him filling up his
water with three droppers full of this blue liquid.
Remember this?
Like a dark blue.
Yeah.
And he never, from what I understand, he never come out and say what it was.

(40:30):
Uh-huh.
Alex Jones, meanwhile, has been losing tons of weight hanging out with Navy SEALS, get
shredded.
Uh-huh.
And he claims it's from methylene blue, which is the same thing RFK Jr. had, right?
Uh-huh.
Now, I'm going to, later on, I'm going to play a four minute video of Alex explaining
what it is.

(40:51):
Okay.
But if you've listened to any of the Alex Jones promos on it, uh, it's not very clear to me.
Okay.
He just, uh, power packs like he plugged into an electoral socket, folks.
Yeah.
He says stuff like, I'm probably going to come home.
I'm going to conjure an old mitochondrial DNA powerhouse.
Uh-huh.
What the fuck are you talking about?

(41:13):
Anyway, I'm going to play it later, though.
Okay.
So let's talk about this is going to get real nerdy, real sciencey.
If you hate this, I'll try to put in the show notes.
Uh-uh.
If you love it, fine.
Okay.
Just go.
All right.
They're fine.
We're going.
Okay.
It is an artificial electron carrier, which means, um, it's conductive.

(41:38):
It's sort of ex the way, uh, the atomic structure of it is.
It allows electrons to flow.
It's like what you call a conductor in electricity.
It's like copper or gold has like an excess of electrons.
So the atomic number so it cannot allow electricity to flow kind of.
Okay.
Maybe that there's less resistance.

(42:00):
No, it has to do with the, so you've got a nucleus and then you've got, which has your
protons in it.
Okay.
And you've got floating electrons in the, what they call like the balance shell.
And if it has, if the, if the number of protons, I'm going deep in my history.
Something about like if the number of electrons is off like an isotope, I think they call

(42:21):
it.
Okay.
Where it has a little bit of excess of the electron charge over the proton that it can
flow if it's paired with something that allows it to move towards.
So meaning like it's like gasoline, like it's an accelerant.
Mm hmm.
To a electric charge.

(42:42):
I don't know if it's an accelerant, but like, so either it's a fucking, okay.
It can be an insulator or a conductor.
So an insulator or a conductor, meaning that it'll help it flow or slow the flow, right?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
That's good.
That's what I'm fucking saying.
Well, don't get mad at me.

(43:02):
I'm just trying to explain it to you.
I don't, I'm, you're talking about something I learned 20 years ago.
I don't fucking remember.
I'm not mad at you.
I love you.
I've never mad at you.
Okay.
Anyway, it works kind of, it's supposed to do something like that is the idea that you take
this liquid.
Meaning it takes off the brakes of the electric flow to your cells.

(43:25):
Basically.
Okay.
Basically.
That's kind of what the sales pitch is.
It's like this allows your energy to flow better.
How?
Right.
Well, Methylene Blue was actually used as far back as 1876.

(43:45):
They used it in biology.
It's a dye that they positively charge so that it can be conductive.
All right.
And they use it at like oral cancer screenings, like the blue dye or cervix cancer screenings.
Oh, okay.
Because it highlights abnormal cells or gastrointestinal procedures for people because they're trying

(44:09):
to track leaks in the system and stuff like that.
Is it reflective?
Yes.
Okay.
Under certain lights apparently.
Yeah, blue light.
I guess.
So this was actually just used for biological.
Or black light.
Is it blue light or black light?
Black light.

(44:30):
Sorry.
Excuse me.
That medically, but it's also used for people who have a condition.
And this is where it gets into the sort of theory about it being healthy or not healthy.
But this turbo charging thing that Alex proposes.
There's a condition that people have called methemoglobinemia.

(44:52):
And so let me explain some things.
You probably know this, but I'm going to explain it for the audience and me as well.
I know.
Let me just know some terms before I explain this because it's just going to sound like
gobbling-gook.
Okay.
So there's a thing called hemoglobin in your blood.
It's a protein in your red blood cells and it basically carries oxygen from your lungs

(45:13):
to the rest of the body.
And then it also carries carbon dioxide back to the lungs to get processed.
Is the hemoglobin the red blood cell?
No, it's a protein in the red blood cell.
Okay.
It's a protein in the red blood cell.
Yeah.
Okay.
And then I guess that's all right.
And then there's, okay.
And that's basically what you need to know.

(45:36):
I'm just trying to make sense of this.
Got you.
I see.
Okay.
So there's this condition called methemoglobinemia where the iron in your hemoglobin is oxidized so
that it changes the iron in your blood cells into what they call ferric instead of ferric.

(45:58):
Which means that it can't bind the oxygen and therefore your hemoglobin can't transport
the oxygen to your body where it needs to go.
Okay.
Which leads to hypoxia, right?
Which is when your body doesn't have enough oxygen and people turn blue sometimes.

(46:21):
Okay.
Because it's kind of related to the blue color of the ink is I guess the idea.
I don't know.
This is what was depicted on that show, the pit.
We haven't seen it.
But from what I was looking in my research, apparently it was on the pit.
Someone showed up to the ER blue.
It's because they weren't getting the oxygen.
And it's because they had this condition of methemoglobinemia where the hemoglobin, the

(46:47):
iron that goes into the hemoglobin wasn't able to transport the oxygen.
Okay.
All right.
And it gets more if you want to go deeper into it.
There's a colonzyme called NADPH and it's what gives the methylene blue this electron with
which to transfer, which then makes what they call the methylene blue, luco methylene.

(47:17):
And then that luco methylene provides the electron to reduce the method.
We turn that iron back into ferrous iron so it can move the oxygen.
Do you know what happens to the iron?
Is it like rusted or what is, it's oxidized?
Is that what you're saying?
It's an, that iron has now oxidized in your body.

(47:42):
It just says it takes the iron which should be like iron supposed to have a supposed to
be ferrous.
What I don't know what that means.
What is it there?
I don't know what that means either.
It's supposed to be ferrous but in these people have the condition it becomes ferric which
means it can't bind to oxygen anymore.

(48:03):
So I would guess that iron being ferrous means it can bind, can bind with oxygen which
is why it rust.
Okay.
I would guess.
I don't, and it gets into territories that I don't know how to explain.
Okay.
So the people that have the methemoglobinemia they get it because it's like a genetic thing

(48:24):
or sometimes they can get, they can get it by being exposed to certain medications or
industrial chemicals or nitrates which is why I suspect RFK Jr. might be taking it because
he's really big into this idea that corporations are poisoning the water in the air with industrial
chemicals.

(48:45):
I would guess he takes it as a precautionary measure or something like that.
Okay.
But we don't know.
He hasn't talked about it.
Okay.
That was just what I thought when I was reading it.
Yeah.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
So okay.
Let's see.
What else could-
You say it was ferrous sulfate or ferrous?

(49:07):
What is it called?
Ferrous.
Is it what-
F-E-R-R-O-U-S?
Uh-huh.
Ferrous iron?
Yeah.
Because the iron is supposed to be ferrous when it's in the hemoglobin.
Uh-huh.
But in these people that have the condition, it becomes ferric.
And I don't know what that means besides that when it's ferric, it cannot bind to the oxygen

(49:29):
therefore the hemoglobin cannot transfer oxygen through the cells.
Okay.
You got it?
Yeah, I'm just-
I see you looking it up.
Did you want-
No, I guess I'm-
Explain it or should I?
No, no, no.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's very confusing.
And this is why Alex doesn't go into the science of it because it's ultra-confusing in his

(49:50):
defense.
So the methylene blue, because there's a couple of aspects to this methylene blue we got
to talk about.
Okay.
So there's like this oxygenating thing, right?
But then there's also this neurotransmitter thing.
All right?
Because methylene blue is also what they call a monomamine oxidase A.

(50:13):
And it's called a inhibitor.
M-A-O.
This is what they abbreviated as.
And M-A-O is what is found in the body and it breaks down certain neurotransmitters like
serotonin, noraffron effron, and dopamine.
Okay.
So what does that mean?
It means if your M-A-O is inhibited, these neurotransmitters build up, which sounds good.

(50:40):
Because you're like, "Oh, good.
Like, quit breaking down my serotonin.
The serotonin and the dopamine make me feel good."
Yeah.
So that sounds like a good thing, right?
Well, it can be.
However, if you're already on SSRIs, it calls or you have some other condition.
When you inhibit the M-A-O's, it can create a condition called serotonin syndrome, which

(51:03):
is too many serotonins.
Okay.
And I've no idea if this is related, but I remember you ever hear people say, "Oh,
people who take ecstasy, how like floods serotonin through your body."
Yeah.
And then you wake up the next morning and they're depleted and you feel like, "Ask."
Yes.
I don't know if that's what the condition of it is, but...
That's what I was going to say.

(51:25):
I wonder if he doesn't like RFK, doesn't have a...
I heard that like people that are, that were drug addicts, that were taking heroin or
taking, or abusing any kind of drugs, it will mess with your brain chemistry and literally
you cannot get that chemistry back.

(51:47):
Oh, wow.
Like, when you've messed with that chemistry for a prolonged amount of time, it takes a long
time to get kind of any kind of normalcy, but then also sometimes it doesn't...
I don't know.
I heard that you cannot feel joy the same way you did before your addiction.

(52:10):
Which...
Which he was an addict for many years, right?
Yeah.
Hardcore addict, a heroin, right?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if it was heroin, but he was like an addict addict.
I think it was heroin.
Wow.
So maybe that's why he's not talking about it or addressing it.
Yes, because I was...
That's what I was thinking.
I was like, "Well, maybe this is connected to more of that."

(52:32):
Yeah.
That would make sense.
Maybe in like...
What do you think they're poisoning us?
Okay.
I could...
I support that, thinking.
Maybe.
I don't know.
So, there's like side effects of this, right?
There's side effects, like the serotonin syndrome, which again, like the body is a very complicated

(52:56):
machinery.
Lots of things going on.
I'm sorry.
Let me get you off for a second.
So taking the blue will give you a serotonin excess?
Yes.
Okay.
It has two effects.
It has the neuro-transmitter effect, and then it has the oxygenation effect.

(53:18):
Meaning it'll help you oxygenate?
If you have an issue with your oxygenation, yeah.
But if you don't, it just doesn't do anything.
No idea.
Okay.
The other one is the transmission thing, which could make you overdo the serotonin.
Yes.
And to much serotonin can deplete it in the long run.

(53:41):
Or make you in long term.
Well it says the side effects of the serotonin syndrome are confusion, agitation, tremors,
fevers, hemolytic anemia, chest pain, hemolytic anemia.
And then the pressure.
And that you can get those from SSRIs?

(54:07):
I don't know that.
Oh, okay.
Well, even Alex Jones on his little ad pitches will tell you if you're on SSRIs, you definitely
need to talk to a doctor before you start taking methylene blue.
Okay.
Because I didn't study the science of SSRIs.

(54:28):
I presume that it's supposed to make you happier, meaning you have more serotonin.
So if you also take --
I don't really know how a SSRI works.
I have no idea.
But methylene blue would exacerbate that and give you too much serotonin, apparently.
Okay.
So some of the side effects of methylene blue itself are your pizterns blue, skin turns

(54:49):
blue.
Nausea headaches, dizziness, diarrhea, you know.
Not fun stuff, but not life ending stuff.
Yeah.
It has lots of warnings about pregnant women and drug interactions, especially with antidepressants,
that kind of stuff.
Okay.
And also I should note that because it's a neurotransmitter, it means it crosses the blood

(55:11):
brain barrier.
Ooh, okay.
When I hear that, I'm always a little bit like, "Who?"
Yeah.
I don't know about that.
For no reason.
So, because we're not quite sure what that even means.
Yeah.
Well, like, I know that Benadryl crosses the blood brain barrier.

(55:32):
And from my understanding that, because it does that, it can cause dementia.
Or there is a link to dementia.
Right.
And methylene blue is being studied for cognitive issues like Alzheimer's and dementia.

(55:53):
Okay.
Maybe because it does cross the blood brain barrier.
Okay.
There's also this third element.
The one that you hear Alex talk about the most is the mitochondria.
All right.
I don't know what that means.
Well, mitochondria is sort of the battery for the cells.

(56:15):
It generates energy for your cells.
And in low doses of methylene blue, it shows that it enhances this mitochondrial function
by acting as an alternate electron carrier, which improves ATP function and reduces ROS.

(56:36):
Now, I have to look those up.
ATP is adenosine triphosphate.
It's a thing that it's found in all your cells.
It stores and transfers energy.
It's kind of like that battery.
It's part of the mitochondria system, apparently.
Okay.
But it's made in the mitochondria during cellular respiration.

(56:59):
And then you got this ROS that it's talking about.
That's the reactive oxygen species.
And these are the molecules that contain oxygen produced by the body.
So it comes from mitochondria.
And the ROS is bad.
That's why it says it low doses of methylene blue can actually reduce your ROS.

(57:19):
And that's what you want, apparently, because apparently ROS can cause damage in the body
and steal oxygen away.
And I always, I look at this through the perspective of CrossFit.
Okay.
Like I'm thinking about it like, okay, because this is something that can improve my performance.
Like, will this increase oxygenation?
Okay.
And I take beet juice powder.
I was going to say, if this is a concern, why not just drink beats?

(57:41):
Right.
That's a natural thing, right?
Natural.
I don't think you're going to get dementia from that.
No.
But, anyway, yeah, this mitochondrial effect of methylene blue at low doses shows that it
can actually improve energy, basically.
And high doses though, it can disrupt your mitochondrial function and it would increase your reactive

(58:08):
oxygen species, taking it the other way, taking too much.
Okay.
So it could be bad if you're like, oh, it tells me, it tells me to take one drop or I'm going
to take three like RFK.
Well, you might be met, might be getting worse off by doing that.
Okay.
So that's kind of the same people are the same people that wouldn't take a COVID shot,

(58:30):
right?
Okay.
So Alex Jones.
Okay.
Sounds good.
Go ahead.
It's Alex Jones had this video.
I don't want to play it for you.
Okay.
It's four minutes long and it's kind of him standing there with his Navy SEAL Bestie.

(58:51):
They've been working out with.
And they're talking about the methylene blue.
I'm going to play it for you and then you're going to come back and be like, okay, now I
get why he was talking to all the science nerd talk.
So here we go.
Four minutes.
We'll be back.
All right.
Sean Johnson's my good buddy.
I know about four or five years.
We really started training with him eight months ago for my Navy SEAL.
We've just got to know so much about it.

(59:13):
I've lost 63 pounds with him.
Intermittent fasting.
Better diet and working out seven days.
Wait.
In fact, we've hardly been to state it before 14 days.
We take one off.
We're taking one off though tomorrow.
No Sunday.
We're just taking a girlfriend with me.
So we're up here on Friday morning.
We just worked out for about an hour and he said, hey, what's this methylene blue?

(59:33):
I'm all here and about.
I said, well, it's been around forever.
The first patented drug is what was patented as we don't sell it.
So it's a supplement by the Germans.
I mean, it became a textile dies.
Well, it works so well with that.
But it's a complex molecule that actually cleans out your mitochondria and it's similar
to what iodine does.
We need to strung.
Now you got to be careful with it, folks, okay.

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Consult your physician.
There's a whole thing there, depending on your own personal life or you want serotonin
reopticking himbers, boy, you better talk to your doctor.
Because it isn't a game.
Well, we got the very best pharmaceutical grade of it.
Maybe I'm out here in America.
It is like 10 times better to get any other USP, meaning US Pharmacia grade, the highest grade
I ever took.

(01:00:14):
I think the other companies just be watering it down to something.
The company, we get it from the Ellicisandesword.com.
It's not doing it.
So people are loving it.
They're already getting it.
But I suggestion we'll take a few drops at first, okay.
Way lower than regular dose.
But first talk to your physician.
Now we're going to put this out regardless of what happens.
Because usually it's 15, 20, 30 minutes to hit, something about an hour.

(01:00:35):
I took it last Thursday.
Only drinking half a drop of water or ex-guys tea.
Forgot about it.
50s women's lighter, boom, incredible energy.
And it just more intense for three days.
I'll take it off such it more on Monday.
And a little bit more yesterday on Thursday.
So Sean's going to take this right now.
And in about 30 minutes an hour, whatever he wants to.

(01:00:57):
If you're new to those up in the 30 minutes, go ahead and shoot a video.
Please send it to me.
If you don't, we're in an hour, you know.
I want the report we're going to put it up.
Because what I've been told is everybody feels something but turning on what's going on
in your mitochondria.
It's incredible.
You know, she was like, I've been checking tests too.
And I have the 4G, it's 2.5 broke.
I have almost mutant level 100% production, close to 100 in my mitochondria.

(01:01:20):
But 2.5 and 4G, it broke, it's probably the power out.
So I worked out so hard on this.
Sean was like speaking like, what's going on?
You're working out way, way harder than ever.
I said, it must be the methyl blue.
So almost everybody really has dramatic effects.
Some insane, like I said, there are some issues with some people, contact your physician
first before you take this, but it also supports the broadcast.
That's for sure.

(01:01:40):
Come.
So Sean, what are you thinking about doing this?
What do you expect?
I'm hoping I get some energy.
I get it.
And in no place, see what you're hoping to really think.
Yeah.
I'm hoping.
All right.
Proper's about a dose, you want that?
Yep.
One dose.
All right.
Shake that baby up.
And then it hit me in like 15, 20 minutes, got more chance of the next day.

(01:02:01):
Most people have filled the 39.
So I said, bottoms up.
He's going to shoot it on his iPhone later and just one that's too long of you.
You get to.
All right.
We're going to find out.
See?
No matter what, we're going to air it.
And we're going to get you folks as you're getting it to send your reviews versus other brands.

(01:02:22):
We're not going to show the brand just human saying brand X. And then we want to see what the
response was because when you find a brand that's better, I want to know if I'm going to
them because this stuff's awesome.
This is the best we know of right now on top of that in the eye steaks.
Sean, we'll see what happens.
Hey, Alex.
I told you I'd give you a report in 30 minutes on that methylene blue.
I'll tell you this while I was sitting there.

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This stuff kicked in and it like instantly I just felt like this weird meditative energy.
I don't know how to explain it.
I don't feel jittery.
I just felt like instantly like I went from five hours of sleep like I got last night to
like 10 hours.
The stuff's new to me, but I like it.
Methylane blue works for me.

(01:03:03):
All right, Josie.
Listen up.
What do you think?
It worked for him.
He's a Navy seal.
What are you going to tell Navy seal?
What to do with his body?
He's a perfect specimen of man.
I find it weird that he said that he usually gets five hours of sleep and he wanted energy,

(01:03:26):
but after that he got 10 hours of sleep, which to me, that makes me feel like you didn't
feel great.
Maybe he means, well, like maybe he means that he had more energy to work out.
Normally if you have five hours of sleep, you're like, I'm kind of tired.
Like all day.
But if you had 10 hours, you're like, oh, I feel good.
I'm good to go.
I think if you just slept for 10 hours, you'd wake up and you do the same thing.

(01:03:49):
Nobody wants to do that when you're fighting the globalists.
There's no time to sleep.
Sleepings were commies.
Okay.
Did you catch the look?
I love the inspirational music, though.
That really made me feel like, fuck, I should try this.
It's spiritual.

(01:04:10):
You got to love it.
Did you see the look on the Navy Seal, dude?
I've heard his name, Sean.
See the look on Sean's face when Alex at the beginning was saying, well, you got things
to do.
You're going to take your girlfriend to the beach.
Oh, yeah.
Sean had to look like, like don't tell my wife, bitch.
Or something.
I don't know what it was.
It was a weird look.
I was like, what was that look about?

(01:04:30):
I did see that.
It was something strange.
I didn't know what that was about.
But anyway.
Yeah.
Could you get what methylene blue does for you from that?
No, no.
It was very confusing.
It makes you a weird meditative energy.
I don't know what that even means.
I don't know what that means either.
Okay.

(01:04:51):
But Alex Jones, you saw him.
He looks great.
He looks so different.
There's conspiracies that he's a clone now.
I love that.
Because it doesn't look like Alex Stone Cold Jones.
He looks like Stone Cold.
My favorite thing about conspiracy is that it'll turn and eat its own any day of the week.

(01:05:13):
Every time.
It is no one safe.
Absolutely not.
He has a lost 65 pounds doing because I asked when he heard when he images first started releasing
of him with the new Stone Cold look on Twitter.
Back when I was on Twitter, I said, how come Alex is losing so much weight?
Because I also thought he's for sure on his epic.

(01:05:36):
They know way this dude has been heavy set for so many years.
All of a sudden.
Because I was like, is he an alcoholic?
He was.
Yeah.
Apparently.
I don't know if he's an alcoholic per se, but he drank a lot apparently from what I heard.
That's what I kind of heard that he was an alcoholic and now he sober.
Is that true or not?
That's, yeah, apparently.

(01:05:56):
I mean, is he talking about that?
Apparently.
I'm not a huge fan.
I don't listen to him.
I just catch bits here and there.
I'm sure he has talked about it, but from what I understand, he quit drinking.
He's dieting, intermittent fasting, working out with Navy SEALs, loading up on Methylene Blue.
They make me laugh.
Just go to the gym.
Do you have to work out with a Navy SEAL?
That's them but the best.

(01:06:17):
Okay.
I mean, you could literally walk.
Yes, I would.
Go for a fucking chill.
Just chill out.
Go for a walk.
But that's for the conclusion.
Get to main line with the blue shit.
The blue.
Methylene blue.
And fucking work out with Navy SEALs.
But it's pharmaceutical grade and he's got four mutant level genes and two and a half

(01:06:38):
are broken.
What do you want him to do?
I don't know what that means.
What does that mean?
Oh boy.
And then I read through the comments on that video.
One person said they've taken it.
They feel more energy than normal.
Feels like low dose adderol without side effects.
Okay.
Another person says it's artificial die.

(01:07:00):
How can it be good?
I don't know but artificial dies are said to be bad.
Oh yeah.
I mean, look at red dye number 40 or whatever that everybody's like that gives you attention
deficit.
I know.
Arv case literally banning artificial dies while he's drinking them.
It's so bizarre.
Oh, that's a, that's an excellent point.
It's bizarre.
We live in bizarre Oville.

(01:07:20):
Okay.
So anyway, then there's another video.
I didn't record that.
You guys have had enough.
Someone's eight minutes there.
He's talking about RFK taking the three droppers of methylene blue.
And Alex says that six years ago his doctor told him to take it.
And from, and from what I understand from my, all my research from this morning for one

(01:07:43):
hour, two hours on this topic, I think what they're trying to say is the sales pitches.
This gives you more energy.
Okay.
And I'm like, Alex, ain't no way your doctor said you need more energy.
Fuck face will rant for four hours daily, daily, ain't no way he needs more energy.

(01:08:06):
Okay, no way.
Dr. Price said you're drinking too much, dude.
You got to quit drinking.
Yeah.
You're like, you have obsessive compulsive disorder.
Fucking calm down.
You're a raging conspiracy theorist here.
You need more energy.
What the fuck are you talking about?
So like, I don't believe that I think this is all sales pitch.

(01:08:29):
Up and again, you don't know again.
And in the conclusion, I will give you my final hot take.
You don't know.
You're not a, you're not his doctor.
I don't.
And in this eight minute video, he says, look, it would take hours to deep dive into this
compound and the molecular structure and what it does.
And he's, I'm not going to do that.

(01:08:49):
Okay.
And I get it.
Just believe me.
I did it for a couple of hours this morning and I'm confused.
But he says that our FK took this thing and it's on the video and it's hard to find the
good stuff.
Our FK also said that he was a better person when he was on heroin.
So yes.

(01:09:10):
So can we like just take shit that he says with a grain of fucking salt?
We got it.
He's dead whale, blubber.
Yes.
He picks up dead fucking bears and drops them off in Central Park.
That's the state of affairs is we all agree that big farmer and big food needs to rain
it in and the only guy that's willing to do it is the is our FK junior.

(01:09:31):
And it's like, well, let's get this crazy guy in there because maybe he'll do it because
I agree with a lot of stuff.
He's just normal people that don't want to make a buck off.
We got to get money out of Washington.
It's got it.
The money's got to go.
What's ruining it here here?

(01:09:51):
So Alex says he's like, he said years ago he was into the stuff, but the people weren't ready
for it.
So that's why he didn't push it back then.
Oh, geez.
Okay.
He's like, I was promoting colonial silver alarm before the FG.
I did.
Okay.
And he says this new Matheline blue is is ultra pure.

(01:10:15):
Right.
And it feels like you're plugged into an electrical socket.
Okay.
And this supposedly this ultra pure comes from a top supplier in Florida.
It's just for that reason I'm out.
This is insane, folks.
It's like being plugged into an electrical socket.
It'll supercharger by the Condria.

(01:10:36):
That's like, bro, okay.
So anyway, my point is, and he says, and then his sales pitch is it's funding the second
American Revolution, which I don't know, dude, because I think things are looking, I think
if I had a crystal ball, I would say, dude, a year or two from now, all this shit you're
pushing people are going to be mad about all this Elon Musk glazing and Trump loving.

(01:11:01):
I think that tide is turning.
When even Carol starts turning on it in Candace Owens, that ain't good.
When the natural news guy who Wikipedia says is a far right extremist conspiracy anti-vaxer
is pushing against it.
You're on the losing side.
Sorry, Joe Rogan and Alex Jones.
This is not going to farewell.
You can already see Joe Rogan back peddling on it too.

(01:11:22):
Yeah.
Well, I mean, they're ex these, they are going too far.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Anyway, we're not going to get political.
The Alex Jones store carries it.
So I had the experience of going to the Alex Jones store.
Okay.
Just pick, while you're picking up your boner pills.

(01:11:43):
And then the boner juice.
When you go there, first you get a pop up.
They're giving away this Elon Musk cyber truck, of course.
Okay.
Excellent.
And it has the top.
Did they recall all of those?
Because the fucking metals flying off because they glued it down with the wrong glue.
They did.
The top two picks on the website, the top two items it says, these are the top two picks

(01:12:05):
for you.
One is Alex Jones's VIP club.
The number one way to keep Alex on the air.
And I said, hey, it's basically a membership thing like my VIP section.
Like this, but first, still my shit.
I call it the VIP section.
Uh-huh.
But I guess that's not that original.
But his second pick is the ultra-methaline blue.

(01:12:28):
Okay.
Normally 59.99 for a bottle.
Oh, damn.
That's right.
Because how many, I mean, what is that like two ounces?
The 30 day supply.
And how many ounces is it?
I don't know.
I guess 30 droppers worth whatever that is.
50 milliliters.
Okay.
However many ounces I don't know.
Okay.
But it's on sale right now for 47.99.

(01:12:50):
Okay.
You can get cheaper options if you subscribe.
The cheap.
So the cheapest is for a subscription 29.99.
Not terrible for one month.
That's not terrible.
I don't think.
Okay.
If it does what it says, right?
If it supercharges your mitochondria.
Like I plugged into an electrical socket, folks.

(01:13:12):
If you want to try to work out with a Navy seal, you better do something.
To your mitochondria.
You're very supercharged.
You're fucking dick and mitochondria.
So on the web.
You're not fucking a Navy seal.
The seals do the fucking.
So the website describes it as methylene blue is a small charged molecule with nitrogen

(01:13:34):
and sulfur inside.
What?
I didn't see that anywhere.
No.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Like I said, I'm not an expert.
That sulfur acts like a little helper.
Handing off electrons.
So your mitochondria, the energy makers in your cells, can speed things up.
It helps them skip straight to the good part of the energy process where real energy ATP

(01:13:58):
gets made and the cell takes out the trash.
What waste is mostly free radicals, pesky unstable molecules that can mess things up if they
stick around too long.
Methylene blue helps your cells avoid the slow messy parts of energy production so they
stay focused and efficient, more energy less stress.
That bright blue color, that's just how it plays with light.

(01:14:19):
The real magic is what it's doing on the inside.
Cleaner energy, less junk, and better performance where it matters most.
This stuff has some serious potential.
It's been around for over 100 years.
And now scientists are taking a look at how it helps boost energy at the cellular level.
Our Methylene Blue's purity is unmatched, view the official COA below, and get the energy
boost you need.
I thought they hate scientists.

(01:14:44):
They do.
Well, who's, who, you know, at the evil indoctrination centers?
You have college.
Of college, they came up with this stuff 100 years ago.
So it's good because it was a 100 year old blue dye.
Okay.
And it says, it has no dyes, no artificial sweeteners, just a smooth minty finish.

(01:15:11):
But it kind of is a dye, like that commoner on Twitter said, it kind of is a dye.
So not sure.
Okay.
What did they use it for back in the 100 years ago?
It was 1876.
Yeah, okay.
It was using biology for staining things as a dye.

(01:15:33):
Oh, for X-rays and stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, for the oral cancer screen.
The cancer, that's right.
Looking for leaks in your guts and things like that.
Okay.
Right.
So.
I mean, I feel like if you're, if you want to get, I look at food as the thing that will

(01:15:55):
help you the most.
Mm-hmm.
Totally.
That's the blood brain barrier.
If you want more red blood cells or oxygenating or whatever that is, get beat powder and drink
fucking beats.
Mm-hmm.
That's supposed to help you do that.
Did you notice a difference when you were drinking your beat powder?
I can't tell because it, I think it's one of those things that you weren't plugged in.

(01:16:21):
I wasn't plugged in doing an actual socket, no.
Okay.
I know that when I eat clean, like the only thing I can gauge this on is CrossFit.
Yeah.
Because that is a quantifiable thing that I do every day for so many years and I can tell
without a doubt that when I eat clean, I perform extremely better.
Same.

(01:16:42):
I know that for a fact.
I noticed a huge difference in the gym at the gym when I ate a fuck ton of vegetables.
And significant noticing, like my endurance was, I don't think I had this in, I wasn't plugged
into an electrical socket.

(01:17:05):
But I, where I would typically get winded, I would keep pushing.
So why, eat some fuck it.
If you got like, if you're worried about having heavy metals or detox, eat beans.
Eat unsolvable fiber.
If you want, how God created us.

(01:17:26):
Right.
Like if we're going to talk about Christianity and God, like, there's a lot of these people
like to do.
Like God created these things and they're healthy and they're the natural way.
But I do so in conclusion, let's kind of wrap up this conversation.
Okay.
Oh, we also have an MK Ultra NeuroBoost supplement.
I was like, what?

(01:17:46):
What?
Why would you call it that?
Okay.
I get the humor in it, but I don't know if these conspiracy theorists have much of a
humor.
They don't.
I'll answer that for you.
Plot spoiler.
Plot spoiler.
Now, if you look up the methylene blue, you can find several alternatives to the Alex Jones
store.
I saw a comparable bottle that was only 30 milliliters for about 35 bucks.

(01:18:09):
So Alex's prices aren't bad.
Okay.
So if you were like, I got to try this.
Alex, if it's a fair, even Stephen, like both the ultra pure shit, I think Alex Jones's
prices are reasonable.
And you can find the second American Revolution.
So that's that.

(01:18:30):
But in conclusion, you know, when it comes to a lot of stuff like this, I'm open-minded to
it.
Sure.
But there's so much room for fuckery in the pseudo-health space with supplements.
Yeah.
That's why when you go to Alex Jones's website to look at methylene blue, you'll see a thousand
asterisk that refer to like the legal jargon at the bottom of not approved by the FDA, not

(01:18:53):
proven, whatever, right?
Which again, it's fine because I take a lot of supplements that people in modern, like
for instance, I'll give you an example.
Red East rice.
Controversial supplement.
Oh, it is?
Yeah.
My grandmother took it and it lowered her LDL cholesterol.
I started to struggle with my LDL cholesterol.

(01:19:14):
You should go with your ratio.
My HDLs are notoriously low.
I've taken, I take visual supplements constantly.
I exercise constantly.
Those are the things that you can do to help it up.
But a lot of this based on genetics, my genetics are shit for it apparently.
But for me to balance that out ratio wise, I need to lower my LDLs.
Yeah.
Keep my LDLs low, which I do.

(01:19:34):
They're actually very, very low.
But Red East rice is supposed to assist in that because years ago, I did not have that
issue.
Years ago, my LDLs were way high.
They wanted to put me on a statin and I was like, hell no, I'm not doing that shit.
And why did you not want to take the statin?
They're side effects to it and it's a big pharma solution.

(01:19:55):
And on top of it all, it's like, sure, I can take the pill.
But I love it.
You have a true belief in behavior.
You got to eat healthy.
Yeah.
You got to eat healthy anyway.
You can only play this game still long before it catches up to you.
Your genetics are going to get you.
Yeah, my genetics are going to get me in a vein.
I don't want to be, I want to be able to pop my shirt off and not feel super embarrassed.

(01:20:17):
Yeah.
You know?
So anyway, my thing with the suit, so the Red East rice, my grandma took it years and years
and years ago and it lowered her LDLs.
So I started taking it and then I went to a regular doctor.
I'm talking like 20 years ago and they all that Red East rice doesn't work.

(01:20:38):
It doesn't do anything.
I was like, oh, really?
You got to like four big pills a day.
It's a pain in the ass.
And I was like, really?
And they, yeah.
And they, and I looked up a study that was like, it doesn't do anything.
This is all pseudoscience, blah, blah, blah.
I was like, really?
So then I went to a hormone replacement therapist because I'm taking testosterone, which actually
does work.
Like that's a big pharmaceutical and it works.

(01:21:00):
What testosterone?
Yeah.
Sure.
Like that actually works.
You feel better on testosterone.
Yeah.
And you don't get your numbers up insanely high.
No.
So I'm talking, I get them in the 700's give or take a couple hundred depending on, because
it depends on how your body absorbs it.
And if you're getting in a sleep and if you blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
So sometimes I'll test it.

(01:21:21):
It's a thousand.
Sometimes I'll test it.
It's like five six hundred.
Yeah.
That would just seven eight hundred somewhere in there.
Okay.
Which for a 45 year old guy, that's pretty high.
Because a 45 year old guy naturally normally would be two three hundred like in the toilet.
And, and big pharma would be like, well, that's just normal.
They're just going to get old and die and have no energy on the way out.

(01:21:41):
Like that's what they want.
Yeah.
It's like, bitch, I don't want to do that.
Yeah.
I want to be plugged in that electoral socket.
So, um, so red e-stri, so the hormone replacement therapist doctor says, no, you should take that
red e-stri, and I was like, really?
She's like, yeah, take it.
Take it like this or whatever.
So I take it and amongst a bunch of other things that I do supplementation wise, energy

(01:22:04):
wise, exercise.
And my LDLs started dropping.
I do believe that my high, my LDLs are high.
Try the red e-stri, and I think it's not a one answer fits all.
Everyone's body is different.
Everyone's genetics are different.
Everyone's diet is different.
Yeah.
It's hard to, there's no silver bullet.
It's like, oh, you want to lower your audience?

(01:22:25):
Everybody does this.
Take this and do only this and you'll, it'll fix a hundred percent of people.
Right.
Like, it's not really how it works.
And the history of big pharma was to shut down any kind of alternative or Eastern medicine.
Like that was the plan from the jump.
Back in the Abraham Flexner report with the Rockefellers funded it and all that shit.
So like, I'm wide open to any kind of supplementation, including methylene blue.

(01:22:49):
Right.
However, my beef is already have energy.
Like, if that's what this thing is doing, it's just giving me energy to work out.
A, like I'm already fine.
I enjoy CrossFit.
I look forward to it.
It's fun.
Like, it's not a hard sell.
I'm not ever like, oh, I'm tired.
I don't want to go to CrossFit today.
It's a schedule thing for me.

(01:23:09):
So I don't need the energy.
If that's what it's promoting, I don't need that.
Okay.
Don't want it.
So I'm not taking it for that reason.
But if, um, I think people, like they're, they're doing too much for energy.
Yes.
That is my point was going.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.

(01:23:30):
I lost it.
But monsters, they're drinking these Celsius.
They're just for caffeinated, like, yeah, like, bro, you're doing all of that.
It's not good.
It is not good for you.
You're going to blow out your adrenals.
Yeah.
And then you're going to spike your cortisol, which makes you fat.
So like, if the goal is, like, you're trying to lose fat.
Like, that's the goal for everybody always.
And for Alex Jones, apparently, that's what he's doing, right?

(01:23:52):
He's losing fat.
The key to it, the big 80 to 90 percent solution is calorically taking in less and eating
cleaner foods.
Like, that's it.
So granted, there's genetic things for everybody that's a little different hormones.
Yeah.
Hormones play a huge factor in this.
There's a variety of things.

(01:24:12):
But if you're telling me that Alex Jones is only losing all this weight because he's got
so much energy that he's working out so hard, you can't work out.
I disagree with that.
I tried to do that.
You cannot work out.
You cannot out work out a shit diet.
No, no.
It's probably a mixture of him taking in less calories from drinking, less inflammation
from drinking.
Yes.

(01:24:32):
Actually, I imagine he's eating clean.
He probably got a good dietitian or something.
But like, when my sister was, my alcoholic sister was in rehab.
She said, like, all the drug addicts, when they stop using drugs, they get addicted to sugar.
Like they crave sugar really bad.
So they'll eat a ton of sugar and the alcoholics.

(01:24:55):
When they stop drinking the alcohol, they, all of the inflammation leaves their body.
And so then they start losing weight and they start looking better, whereas the drug addicts
start gaining weight.
Oh, because the drug addicts are already skinny.
They're skinny from doing their drugs and then they stop and then they start using sugar.
They start eating sugar and the sugar is inflammatory.

(01:25:16):
So it kind of pushes them the other direction, right?
Yeah, that makes sense.
So it's like, I think people have to like look at stuff to a certain degree of inflammation
in their body.
Yeah.
Like sugar is going to give you inflammation.
Alcoholics is going to give you inflammation.
High fat or high, like a, not saturated fat, but like triglycerides, like having like,

(01:25:39):
or the shitty fats, you know?
Yeah.
The shitty fats are going to cause inflammation.
Like you have to be aware of processed foods are going to cause inflammation.
Be aware of inflammation.
Most of our American diet promotes inflammation.
Right.
So that has a connection to, you're not going to feel good.

(01:26:02):
You're going to have, you're not going to be able to work out is, you're not going to
have the endurance in your workouts.
When we ate vegetables, this is, I, it shocks me.
How much vegetables made us feel better?
Well, for me, specifically.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
Even clean makes you feel so good, but it's hard because it's hard because when you

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love food and sugar and shit, like it's, it's a battle of, like you know, you're not going
to feel good.
You know, you're not going to hit your goals.
You're like, I don't go fuck.
I mean, it's cookie.
Yes.
The, the, the, it, I always said that this, how I looked at it is like, I'm going to eat this
piece of shit fucking meal prep that I made.
And I'm not going to feel good right this minute.
It's not fun to heat it up.

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It's not excited about planning it and.
There's zero excitement.
There's no emotional return or, I'm not going to say there's not no.
It's very small.
It's much smaller than, ooh, what do you feel like eating tonight?

(01:27:03):
I want something slutty.
Let's go get a pizza.
Like when you want something slutty and naughty, that shit, it's fucking, it's instantly
like fireworks, fireworks in your body.
It's exciting.
Yeah.
So it in that time frame of like when you're planning it and getting it all together, I feel
great.
I'm on cloud fucking nine, but I eat that shit and my stomach bucket hurts.

(01:27:28):
It kills my stomach hurts.
I don't feel good.
And then I go to bed and I have acid reflux all night.
And then the next day I don't feel all that great either.
So it's like the, but if I eat clean, I get none of that emotional payoff while I'm
planning it and eating it.
Even when I eat it, I'm kind of like this is fine, whatever.

(01:27:50):
That's all saying yesterday I was eating chicken and broccoli.
And I thought, I mean there's no enjoyment.
Like you think you're hungry?
Eat a big old bowl of broccoli and chicken.
And you're like, it's fine.
I don't want to eat anymore.
I want to chew anymore.
I'm done.
It's the chewing.
When you eat vegetables, you are, this is what I've noticed about processed foods.

(01:28:10):
You don't chew processed food.
Huh.
It mushes.
You don't have to chew it.
Get broccoli in your mouth.
Put some rice in your mouth with some fucking, that's true.
You are chewing the most.
It's outrageous how much you chew.
And I'll be like, I can't chew anymore.
I'm sick of chewing.
Yeah.

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It's crazy how much we start making veggie soup.
And that's a much nicer way because I love the vegetable soup.
That's a way nicer way of.
It's just so hard to lose weight.
It's so difficult.
He said he's doing intermittent fasting.
These are all techniques to reduce your calories.

(01:28:52):
I know they want to say there's all this bro science magic behind fasting or whatever.
Maybe there is, but ultimately what you're doing is you're eating less food as far as losing
fat.
I watched a documentary on prime.
I cannot remember the name of the documentary.
But it was something like starving to death or starving or something like that.
So basically there's these clinics in Germany and I think there's one in California maybe.

(01:29:19):
But they're all over the place.
But the one that this one was at was Germany.
And you will fast for three days to four weeks.
And they're in the documentary.
It's suggesting that long term fasting.
It'll be under a doctor's care.

(01:29:39):
Maybe dead in four weeks.
I think they're giving them salt and pills and stuff like that.
And they're doing blood work and your analysis on them.
You're in the clinic the entire time.
So they're checking, I think they're checking blood and urine while you're in the clinic and
checking your levels and making sure that you're not whatever the fuck.

(01:30:04):
But I don't know, maybe it's not four weeks.
I watched this 10 years ago.
That's what it was.
Three weeks.
Whatever the fucking number was.
Yeah, because it's like the formula is you go three days of that water, three weeks without
food, three months without...
Call Auschwitz.
How long were they not eating in Auschwitz?

(01:30:25):
I think that that's...
I think if they're giving them vitamins and minerals.
Maybe, huh?
Then I think maybe you could prolong that.
I don't know.
I'm not the guy that I'm doctor on the documentary.
So whatever the doctor said on the documentary, they were to have them in prolonged fasting

(01:30:48):
and it was supposed to help turn off the cells.
Like it was really fascinating.
I watched this and by the end of it, it had convinced me.
I was like, oh, this is really interesting.
And there should be more studies done on it.
So they're basically saying that they should...

(01:31:10):
That when you fast, when you...
It puts your cells in a defensive mode and it can...
In the documentary, it says that it can put non-Hodgkin's lymphoma into recession or any
kind of autoimmune...
Excuse me.
Issues into recession.
And I think there was this cancer research study in Berkeley where they were giving mice

(01:31:38):
a lethal dose of...
I don't remember if it was radiation or...
It was radiation or chemo where...
I don't really know the difference between any of that.
But they were doing some kind of cancer treatment and they were giving lethal doses to lab rats.
And half of the mice, they would give them their normal diet.

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And then the other half of the mice, they would fast them for 24 hours before they would
give them the radiation or whatever the fuck it was.
And in the documentary, it showed the ones that had eight up into their cancer...
To the injection or whatever it was.
They died.
It was too much for their body and the mice died from it.

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But the other mice that were on the restriction diet or on the fasting diet, it put their
cells, their healthy cells in a protective thing so that when the radiation, because that's
what makes people sick from their chemo and stuff, is that when the cancer treatment goes
in there, it kills all the cells.

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So that's part of it making you so sick.
So when you do treatments according to this documentary that they were saying, fasting
before it, the treatment, it puts your cells in a protective state.
It was a really...
I thought it was a bullshit documentary.
I found it very interesting.

(01:33:05):
I wish I could...
I was something like starving or something.
I don't know.
It was a really interesting documentary.
I think it was benefits for sure.
The church prescribes all these fasts for a reason.
Yeah, exactly.
I think that there is some clarity that comes with it.
And I'm just saying, I think Alex Jones lost 65 pounds because he's not drinking.

(01:33:28):
He's eating less food via techniques like intermittent fasting.
And he's working out.
You know, those things all help.
But I think you're 80 to 90% of the reason why is eating less calories, which come from
alcohol, right?
In how do you do that?
In how do you do that?
However you do that is whatever work for you.

(01:33:50):
Yeah.
Like people lose...
I see tons of videos on people walking 10,000 steps.
And I believe that wholeheartedly.
In fact, my nutrition coach used to tell me that all the time because my body would be so
broken from CrossFit.
She'd only be like, "You need to get 10,000 steps.
Quit worrying about CrossFit.
Just to walk."
Get out and walk.
I'm like, "I'm not walking.
It's boring."
You know?
It's supposed to regulate your hormone.

(01:34:11):
Like, women, I think that for me, CrossFit was too much for me.
I loved it.
It was really fun.
The competitive part of it was really fun, but I think it spiked my cortisol.
And impartially, it was also because I wasn't doing a good job at taking care of myself.

(01:34:33):
I was trying to eat a piece of shit diet, not sleep very well, and then go to the gym and
beat the shit out of my body to the point where it would lose the weight.
You literally...
It does not work.
My fucking damn this.
It doesn't work.
Every ripped person I've talked to at the gym has the cleanest diet you've ever fucking

(01:34:54):
seen in your life.
It's their entire life, and they don't get enjoyment out of food.
They're like, "No, I chicken and broccoli and so on."
Because it's not important to them.
The eating sugary snacks and pretzels and, "Oh, baby."
Pizza is like, "They don't care."

(01:35:14):
Like, when I did it just a go, she would go to birthday parties and bring her own sort
of healthy piece of cake or whatever it was.
Her gluten-free cake.
Her gluten-free thing.
Because it's just a different mindset.
These people are...
I wish I had that.
I wish I could embrace that, but it's a full lifestyle change.

(01:35:38):
For those people to stay looking like that, they have to have a...
That's their life.
I think that the only...
I think what would have a cognitive change in you would be feeling how good you could
feel by not eating the shit.

(01:35:59):
So sometimes if you eat, I would do diets all the time, and I would hear people say,
"I would, you know, I did the adkins fucking diet.
I did the...
What was the fat diet that everybody did?
I said, "No, adkins was like all meat."
It's like a protein.
They call it carnivore now, right?

(01:36:23):
The one with the high fat.
Yeah, what is that called?
It wasn't HCG.
What was that called?
No, I did do an HCG diet.
Did an HCG wear the apple diet?
The fucking apple diet.
I did...
I did caloric, like just where I was like...
What was that?
It's called Dr. Annator Me and you did the 24-hour diet, which was so awful.

(01:36:46):
You had to eat...
I think for breakfast, you had to have how many egg whites?
Oh, remember?
Oh, I remember egg whites and spinach.
It was egg whites and spinach.
The point was I was throwing up.
And I was dry heaving them down and crying because I was dry heaving so hard.
And we all agreed that the one tablespoon of peanut butter was the same.
You got one tablespoon of peanut butter and I was like, "Oh my God, that tastes so good."

(01:37:09):
I had a headache.
I felt like shit.
And I was like, "I can't do this.
I cannot cry, force feeding myself eggs and spinach."
We used to do Dr. Annator to live with us.
Yes.
And we all spent the whole weekend getting all groceries and putting them all prepped out
in Ziploc baggies.
And we came home for work that day.
We all stood around the kits in Ireland and looked at each other.

(01:37:29):
We were like being tortured.
And we were like, "Wait for one person to just be like, I can't do this.
I'm out."
Because we were also like, "Well, we're going to keep doing this.
Are we going to pizza for dinner?"
What are we doing?
It was so miserable.
It was so awful.
So I've tried every diet and every diet.
Keto is the high fat stuff.
Keto, that's what it is.

(01:37:50):
I've done the keto diet.
I did the intermittent fasting over COVID when I wasn't allowed to work.
I was doing the intermittent fasting.
I think that's probably kind of the one of the best strategies I think is intermittent fasting.
No, because guess what?
If you know that your time frame's ending, you can shove a lot of fucking food in it.
Yeah, that's true.
I didn't lose an ounce of weight on that.

(01:38:11):
I was seeing the deadline coming and I was like, "Oh, I got a fucking hurry up and eat."
So I would eat as much as I possibly could.
I was going over my calories.
And I'd go over my calories also because you're supposed to intermittent fast with keto.
I wasn't doing that either.
Because I was hungry.
And so all of these diets, none of them made me feel good.

(01:38:33):
I always was just like white knuckle-knuckleing through every single one of them.
And some people are like, "I've been at bed."
I was like, "I never had that experience."
The only time, literally the only time I felt good, was when I did Joe's diet of eating macros.

(01:38:56):
Yeah, macro counting.
That's what most crossfitters do is macro count.
Eating whole foods on top of that is...
No, the macros...
Her's were tricky because I had to eat so much, so many servings of...
I had to get a dietary fiber in.
I had to keep a sugar at a certain point.
Yeah, I got to keep sugar below 65 milligrams a day.

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Yes, it's very difficult when you start tracking what you eat.
Dude, you literally are only eating whole foods.
And minimizing fruit a little bit.
Because you can't get too much sugar from the fruit either.
But it's a good, well, you feel pretty good though.
I felt great.
I didn't go through any of that shit of having the headaches and not having to get through...

(01:39:40):
You know the sugar detox stuff?
I didn't have to go through any of that with that.
I think that's why I had such success when I went through that diet with her for so many
months when I first started.
Because I was used to diets being the most miserable thing on the planet of white knuckleing
it through headaches and fighting urges.
With that, I was like, "Dude, once a week I can get a cookie or something."

(01:40:00):
Yeah.
And it worked really good.
Anyway, my point is that methylene blue, it could give you energy, which could make you
work out more or work out harder, which will burn more calories.

(01:40:22):
However, you're talking about just tweaking in that little 10% that exercise does for you.
The exercise is important for mental health, makes you feel better, you're working towards
something.
It does a lot of things and it burns calories too.
But you're also burning calories just sitting on your ass.
You're still burning a couple hundred calories just sitting out watching TV.

(01:40:43):
I heard if you just know for a 30 minute walk after you eat, it helps you process your food
better and your hormones.
So you'll get a better nights sleep.
Yeah, I think working out helps your mental health.
I think like walking.
Yes.
And weight training and eating vegetables is the key to this shit.

(01:41:04):
It's the food, 100%.
It's the food.
It's all about the food.
I, from my experience, that's what it's about.
And sure, you can buy this supplement and it might work.
I don't know.
Like I said, I don't dismiss these alternative supplemental weird things.
I'm reading this whole book on medicinal mushrooms.

(01:41:27):
And I do think there's, and I like about mushrooms as supplements is that that's an natural
thing.
And there's a ton of studies on mushrooms.
So let me finish off by reading what Wikipedia says about methylene blue because it has a
history of it.
I didn't know.
It says in the late 2010s and early 2020s, a social media trend emerged promoting the use

(01:41:49):
of methylene blue for various medical purposes, including anti-aging, metabolism enhancement,
cognitive improvement, cancer treatment, and COVID-19 treatment.
Currently, there's no scientific consensus on and no FDA approval for its effectiveness
and safety for these purposes.
Medical experts caution that methylene blue can be toxic and high doses and interact with

(01:42:10):
other medications, potentially reducing their effectiveness and causing unforeseen side
effects should only be used under doctor's prescription.
So, like for me, my overall take, if someone like a friend of mine or you were like, hey,
I'm thinking about taking this, I wouldn't be like, oh no, don't take that.

(01:42:32):
I just don't know if it's going to be the thing that gets you to your goals.
Yeah.
I would just make sure you have the, what do I call it, correct expectations or whatever.
Because I feel like where you're going to get the most bang for your buck is eating whole
foods, which sucks.
Like, that's the shittiest part.
Yeah.
Like, exercising is the fun part.

(01:42:54):
Like, if you could literally just stay ripped by just exercising, which some people can,
some people's genetics are amazing for that kind of stuff.
They can eat shit.
Yeah.
A friend of mine, he, I was like, dude, what do you, I know him online and I met him and I
said, dude, what do you, what do you eat, man?
How do you stay this rip?
Because he's like my age, you know?

(01:43:15):
Uh huh.
And I know in your 40s, like, it gets hard as hell.
Yeah.
And he's like, man, he's like, you're going to hate me.
I go, what?
He goes, it's my jeans, man, I can eat anything I want.
My dad's built the same way.
I was like, God, damn it, man.
Like some people just got it like that.
Yeah.
But for the most of us, at least he knows.
Yeah, told you know what?
I can't stand assholes that think that they have the, they have the magic information.

(01:43:40):
And there's so many cookies.
I only eat four nights.
Yeah, exactly.
Like my other friend who's ripped, he's like, I eat a bowl of ice cream every night.
No.
And then they think their geniuses.
And I'm like, no, you have good genetics.
You fuck.
Anyway, so I, I, in conclusion, in conclusion, I don't, I don't know that Alex Jones is grifting

(01:44:01):
on this one, which I know is probably shocking to hear.
Huh.
I don't know that he is.
This might actually like give you energy and stuff.
Yeah.
Is he trying to make a few bucks off it?
Sure.
I don't, I don't hate him for that though.
I think everyone needs something to promote health and wellness.
Remember that thing is for you.
Maybe it's the methylene blue.
I don't know.
But I think if you're looking to actually like lose a lot of weight, look at the other things

(01:44:24):
Alex is doing, you know, the intermittent fasting.
Cut out all the alcohol.
I'm sure.
And that's great.
I think eating whole foods, cleaning up your diet, lowering your calories and staying away
from inflammatory things is going to go light years past, you know, methylene blue.

(01:44:46):
Is what I'm trying to say.
I think that's a fair statement.
That's why I think people should stop drinking those pieces of shit energy drinks.
Yeah, just drink coffee, drink black coffee.
Drink two cups of coffee, be normal.
Do not do that shit.
That is crazy.
You can give yourself a adrenal fatigue with that nonsense.

(01:45:08):
Have a cup of coffee.
And they put a bunch of weird shit in those monster drinks like flavorings and artificial
things.
Just calm down.
How much fucking energy do you need?
If you're tired, you're tired for a reason your body has to sleep.
If you want to see real psychosis, look at those fucking studies that they did with those

(01:45:28):
prisoners that they didn't let sleep for a few days, two days or so.
Studies aren't.
Dude, they did this means shit.
I think it was in Germany or Russia or something where these people started ripping their
eyelids off.
Oh my god.
Yes, in like something crazy like three days of no sleep.
Three days?

(01:45:49):
I don't know if I'm making arbitrary numbers up at this point.
But like there was this thing that happened where they weren't, they didn't let them sleep
for a very short period of time.
And without your body to have the ability to sleep and rebuild and whatever it does in your
sleep, they went into psychosis.

(01:46:12):
Like that's why it's like a technique of torture.
Yeah, I believe it.
So if you're tired, there's a reason that you're tired.
Go the fuck to bed.
What are you talking about?
When I'm sleepy, it's time to sleep, bitch.
You are funny.
When you get sleepy, your eyes get red and they water.
They get glassy.

(01:46:32):
When I see that look in your eye, I know there's no stopping this train.
You are going to sleep.
There's no way.
Because I'm a night owl.
I have a hard time.
I have an insomnia.
And so I have a hard time going to sleep and I try and get you to, I'm the little devil
on your shoulder.
I know you're the devil.
I'm going to bed.
You cannot.
You can't work.
Because if I get a little tired, I can be like Garfield and keep myself up.

(01:46:56):
How do I do it?
In basic training, here's a third basic training story.
In basic training, we did the field exercise.
We got in the field for three days.
That second night, boy, I remember standing up and sleeping.
I started out standing up and just sleeping.
Because you do these wargages and you go in this reserve tent, whether you wait for someone
to tap into replace you after they get killed.

(01:47:19):
And I remember standing up and I was like, I just kind of close my eyes.
And you couldn't get caught, but it was dark in there.
And I think that's why they did it on purpose.
Fuck with you.
So I remember standing there.
I was like, Bob and in the next day, I was like, my eyes open.
I was like, oh shit, I was sleeping.
Standing up.
Who does that?
I don't know.

(01:47:39):
Some people sleep with their eyes open.
Oh, that's the trick.
Do you learn that?
My dad does that.
Oh, really?
Yes, it's fucking creepy.
The dog does that sometimes.
You ever notice it?
Who did that?
Was it Eva?
Yeah, Eva would sleep with her eyes like I was clinging.
Eva would sleep with her fucking eyes open a little bit.

(01:48:01):
You weren't catching that dog.
No.
Slip in.
No.
She hated tension.
No, she was not lost.
But I think if you're sleepy, you need-- if you're tired, that tired, there's something's
something's going on.
Start eating veggies, eat beans, drink more water, and go to fuck to bed.

(01:48:24):
And do that for four weeks and see if it doesn't start making you feel a little bit better.
You also got to give your body some time to adjust to that new, like, okay, I'm going to
give you all of the things that you need.
You want to take care of your body.
It's the thing that you're in, right?
Take care of yourself.

(01:48:44):
You don't need to plug it into an electrical socket.
Yeah, I'm just kidding.
But maybe you do.
Like I said, especially if you've got one of these conditions.
Now, this is this weird ass thing.
Well, yeah, if you have a medical condition.
You're like, man, I don't know how people work out.
I'm so tired all the time.
Maybe you get checked out.
Maybe methylene blue would change your life and give you energy.
There you go.

(01:49:05):
That's not only about oxygen.
But you got plenty of energy.
What are you talking about?
But so like, I don't dismiss it.
It could help, but it could hurt you too from the various side effects that some people get.
I don't know.
Calm down.
I think this is this idea of capitalism in America.

(01:49:25):
Yeah, it's the idea that energy is the fix all to everything.
You just fucking grind.
Grind yourself into the goddamn dirt.
That's a bigger, better point.
It's, oh, you've got to pay some bills.
Maybe you just need more energy to work a third job.
Yeah.
How come, oh, you want to sleep?
Sleeping for losers.

(01:49:46):
Adorable.
Losers, losers sleep.
You get up and you grind.
So I think a slowing down of our culture and an idea of taking care of your body is a
positive thing.
Here, here.
Okay.
That's all I got.
I tell you're fucking kids know every once in a while.

(01:50:06):
Back to the kids.
One shot out the door.
They're only cute to you.
The rest of us are like, ugh, they're acting like terrible little humans.
There's in like, what are all that methylene blue?

(01:50:27):
This is what I don't get.
When other parents see the shitty kids behaving, do you feel like I feel?
Which is like, hey, this is not embarrassing.
What the fuck are we doing?
Or do you guys all as parents have this weird, um, like a sympathy maybe?
Yeah, like sympathy or understanding this weird, misguided understanding of this situation.

(01:50:52):
Like just think about this parents.
As a child, if you're in your 40s, we were taking care of other children.
At fucking 10, I was babysitting other children.
Yeah.
I wouldn't have a 10 year old watch my fucking house.
I wouldn't leave a 10 year old for a few hours now.

(01:51:15):
I wouldn't leave a 15 year old to watch the house.
It's true.
In the dogs.
These kids are very immature.
They are not the same level of maturity that we were.
And like good, bad or whatever.
Like, when does that maturity come in?

(01:51:39):
What the fuck are we doing here?
Anyways, I still love you guys.
I'm not trying to be a good house.
I don't give a fuck about your kids.
You do whatever you want with them.
Take that as a good thing or a bad thing.
Whichever one.
I mean, I'm indifferent.
I got bigger fish to fry.

(01:52:00):
Sweet Josie, you're just trying to make your kids have a better fulfilling life.
Yes.
Doing harm to them.
Okay.
Alright, yeah.
If you want to support the show, you know where you're going to go.
Come on the Patreon and tell me if you think I'm a piece of shit.
Oh, you're going to post that TikTok, aren't you?
I don't know.

(01:52:20):
Maybe.
Maybe.
If you want to see it, better leave some comments on that Patreon post.
And I'll put the post on and I'd love to hear your, I'd love to know what other parents
think.
Tell me why I'm wrong for thinking this.
Tell me what I'm missing as not having children.

(01:52:40):
What am I missing about this?
Because I think this is horrendous.
Okay.
Alright, you know where you go.
You know what to do.
Look at your eyes.
Show us.
Till next time.
We love you.
Bye.

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