World War III Conspiracy Theories: Israel vs Iran, Solomon's Temple, New World Order, End Times, MAGA & the Occult!

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Well, we're three is begun and we're living in the end times folks the globalist the elites

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They're attempting to bring about Armageddon and today we're gonna discuss how this connects and do conspiracy theories about Zionism
Christian beliefs on rebuilding Solomon's temple and how it's all
Illuminate confirmed a cult goat with the Bob symbolism everything Zionist computers here today on breaking social norms

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And with a red hot intro like that. I don't know who's gonna turn this episode off
We're talking about all the things we're gonna test the limits of breaking social norms will this show get banned
Today's the day we find out
Be spicy and I'm going to put the warning

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The
Blanketed textbook statement here conflating all Jews with Zionism or portraying Zionist as a secret cabal
Is a common anti-Semitic trope and we do not endorse anti-Semitism
bigotry hatred racism on this show great

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So if that's what you came here for keep moving step however, we will be
discussing the theory not
necessarily our theory well, we're gonna discuss some of our theories that bake into the big theory
About the big thing that can ever be talked about
There's gonna be elements here of us doing

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Discussing the narratives that other people discuss
But then there's gonna be some elements where we say well here's where maybe that's a real thing
I love it. What do you think? I know you've got a bunch of stuff
I know you and we're gonna have a josey soap box
Dietribe I think I

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I feel like I've stumbled upon something
We're recording this the day after flag day
It's June 15th Lord knows what's gonna have been between the recording and you listening to this show. Yes, so
This is all of the news is fucking
Insane right now psychological operations to the one millionth degree going on. It's frightening

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It's frightening. We have
Senators being murdered by
Trumpi
Maga that worked with Tim Walt somehow
Was appointed now appointed by Tim Walt
It's not any and the dude was what 57 and he was married
I think but he lived with two other dudes. Yeah, did you see that?

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None of this makes any sense and plus we know already way more about this guy than we know about the fucking dickhead the shot
Trump allegedly from the rooftops. Yeah, I still don't believe that no and
we've had
Matt the world's biggest protest the no Kings protest
We've had a shooting of a

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Protester in
Salt Lake City which that story is changing by the minute now. They're saying that one of the quote unquote
protest peacekeepers which if you didn't know those are oftentimes militia people because the police are embedded with the
Bullyshops because and I and I know this because a friend of mine was in one of those militias

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Both peacekeepings and he told me about he's like yeah the police. Oh, they hire us out to it was back when the George Floyd thing was happening
So yeah the police hire us to help them patrol and keep the streets safe
Well one of them guys shot and killed an innocent protester because he thought this other guy was
Mass shooter turns out bullets don't only hit

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The people that they're intended to hit
According to the story which I don't even know is fucking true. I it's not saying that's we're living in like this insane time
Who knows what's real anymore now? You throw in AI videos that look fucking real shit now. Yeah, I
Don't know what to believe. I'm my brain is scrambled mm-hmm
So we're gonna talk about in the midst of all of that stuff

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Israel
Throne bombs over at Iran
Which is and again we don't do geopolitics or news on this show necessarily because it's not our
Wheelhouses, but what I did read in the news was that I
Think the official story so far is Israel bombed I ran preemptively because they said that I ran had nukes and they were gonna attack Israel

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And then at first I think our administration sort of step back and it's like whoa
This is your this is your battle not ours and then
That changed the narrative change and now it's like yep
Cuz Trump said you know I gave I ran 60 days to come up with an answer to this question and they didn't so day 61
We all through bombs at you guys and then on top of that in March Tulsi Gabbard told the Senate or the

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Congressional hearing that there was no nuclear bombs in Iran that they were only
Refining up to 60% and stockpiling the 60% refined shit. I don't fucking know. Yeah, anyway like it's mass chaos
Listen up folks it's mass chaos
And only me to protect you is red hot American boners

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Little folks we got to repopulate and the mess lane blue
Plug me into the socket
And the boner juices give me rock hard
Okay, let's hear it. So let's go. So where do you want to start with this fucking mess? I don't know let's first start
When did I when did Israel hit throw bomb send bombs to Iran a couple days ago a couple days ago and I heard they hit

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A nuclear power plant in Iran
That's what I've heard too. Okay, and I've also heard that they had deadly accurate bombs
Taking out missiles taking out it could be either a like in America. We've got the JDM and the joint direct attack munitions
Which is guided by GPS that basically the satellite will pinpoint this is your this is your wheelhouse

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This is what you did in the bill as well as yeah, like select they paint the target with this GPS coordinate and
They supposedly can they launched missiles or bombs guided precision munitions into
apartment buildings at the leaders of the Iranian
Whatever whatever supreme guard whatever the fucked up called okay all the leaders they took out all the leaders

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With deadly accuracy and that happened and that apparently happened
Oh, did I thought they just hit the nuclear power plant. I think they also did that too
But then also the other narrative on this going around is
Because you know there is a
There's a lot of people who are defending the Palestinians who are saying that

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Israel's being too heavy-handed and just genociding the fuck out of these people. Yeah, kill them babies and shit. Why would they do that?
I heard I heard a theory about this. What's your what's the theory you heard? I heard that
Netanyahu
Saw the money that was being made. I think it's not turkey

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There's some kind of um
Oh my god my brain
What's a water channel that people use to go around was that called like the Panama Canal?
Canal a canal okay
That is being used in the Middle East somewhere where they get to go around of

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They get to go around a landmass, right? Yeah, I think they get to cut through Africa kind of instead of going all the way around it
Right there's some I don't remember what country it has
Has it but there's some kind of canal over there and they're fucking making tons of money with this canal
um and
Netanyahu wants to build a canal

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And a way to get through the canal the space where they would have to do it would be through Gaza
And so that's why that's the conspiracy theory I heard there
That's a good one and I I've seen that there's a lot of there is I want to this is going to be more of a unpack a live unpacking of what's really happening over there

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What's going on? Yeah, this I don't have a defined
Path of what I think or you don't have a defined path the way you think no precisely we're gonna unpack a lot of this
So there's a lot of ideas will float out here and me watching the conspiracy
Truth or movement
This is a divisive issue because you've got a bunch of truth or types that are pro-maga

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And then you've got this other
Faction that's pro-maga and anti-Israel
Okay, you know like Ian Carroll the the guy we talked about a few shows ago
He has been on Twitter
Critical of Zionism which maybe we should define that first for people who are new to this whole stuff. Yeah

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Zionism is a
Nationalist movement that once Israel to have their own sovereign state in that biblical area of Zion which is
Palestine basically and
You can be any religion in the world and still be as ionist right some Jews are Zionists some are not

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I think a lot of the Orthodox Jews are not
Meaning they don't think that
Because it says in the Torah that they didn't have their land right
um
That that was part of like a punishment for not following something or another and losing of their land

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See, I'm not I'm not smart enough for this shit. I'm gonna give you the fucking dummy
Answer that I think I've heard
Like dummy fucking answer
Which is probably filled with holes and is missing nuance it's a cut. Yeah the whole the whole thing is a complex
I'm not smart enough for this shit. So I'm gonna tell you what I fucking heard
I heard an orthodox Jew say that they

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believe that Israel shouldn't be a state
Because it says in
It's the Torah right there. Mm-hmm. They're bible. Yeah the Torah that they shouldn't have that that it'll only come when the Messiah comes that they will get their land back when the Messiah comes and the Messiah has not come yet
Because they don't believe in Christ and so because this because they don't believe in Christ and they don't believe that he was the Messiah that they're not allowed to have their land back

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Is for my understanding of the situation and so Israel having or
Jews
We're us having a Jewish state of Israel. It goes against the Torah. Okay. Now the Torah is the first five books of the Bible Genesis Exodus
Deuteronomy
Leviticus then other one the fifth one I don't look at no so

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And then you have the Abrahamic religions which all
Look to those books and then sort of extrapolate from there. You got Christianity Islam and Judaism
so
My point is the the big the granddaddy of conspiracy theories in the history of conspiracy theories is
this

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Topic is this exact idea of Zionism
It's the holy grail of all conspiracies because it's the kind of the original one it goes way back hundreds of years
It's kind of the most persistent one in fact if you read
So you had to show on this in 2023 I believe anyway
There's a book then I have on my shelf if I can find it

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Fuck I can't find it
Oh my god rob rob brother tin wrote it
It's about talking about conspiracy theorists of why we think the way we say all
Why they think you're anti-Semitic? Well, that's one component. It just talks about the generalized thinking
Rob brother tin is his name. It's a professor. It's shit somewhere suspicious mind suspicious mind. It's perfect. Thank you

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thank you Jamie
and
He has a whole chapter devoted to this topic about how anti-Semitism
The the official narrative and what his book presents is that
anti-Semitism has always been a conspiracy stoked by people

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through lies
propaganda
You know this includes hiller right hiller was doing the same things like all the these vermin are
They're running the world secretly behind your back. Mm-hmm control system
So it's always been there and it still is today
And it gets really dicey
You know because you're basically saddling up the fucking Hitler and the Nazis right?

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Yeah, no, so it's a dangerous. I guess I do
It's dangerous as hell
Uh, in fact, I've always tried to steer from it
because
I mean, there's something on savory there, right? It's super unsavory
Nobody wants to be
Wow hiller had some really great points. That's a fucking gross. But lately there's been a lot of

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Ideas presented
That make me really pause and think
What's happening? Is there something to this that's worth looking at and
Specifically we're talking about A-PAC right which is the the lobbyist for Zionist
Ideas of Israel and I don't think every Jew

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Believes in A-PAC like look at Bernie right. Yeah, not every Jew is a Zionist so
But they've conflated the idea that questioning this whole thing is anti-Semitic and you're like I hate all Jews and it's like that's not really it either
Well, it is for some of them
Yeah, that's so hard. I this is what's so hard about conspiracy is that

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Everybody has to put their think in hats on
You're gonna have to think and you can't be fucking violent
And that's what scary is that sometimes when you have interesting compelling conversations the non-thinkers
Go out there and do horrifically violent shit right and they feel justified in it

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Right and it's fucking disgusting. Yeah, because you got to understand in this conspiracy world when you create conspiracy content
You could be riling up people out there. They're just driving wrong like oh, I know it is so damn June
You know like like they're getting riled up
And that's why like you happen with the Chinese with the Wuhan flu
It happened with every with the people say that's a conspiracy by the way but good

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But they weren't beating up that's the claims that's the conspiracy that that was never really a thing
Really yeah
Well, see what the fuck what do we know is real yeah? How do we know because like the same media the same mainstream media that we sit here as the conspiracy group and say
They fucking lie and propaganda
Well, what are they rather on then then they'll say and the conspiracy people will pick and choose which mainstream media articles

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We want to support our opinion with right and the other ones were like we'll see they lie about everything
But then the next breath are like but with this one they were right. It's like it's hard to know what's real anymore
Well, and you put in that you have conspiracy theories that are supposed to be
They should be bipartisan like not have a angle besides truth
That are being paid for by fucking Russia right right and have an agenda

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It's totally true. Stoking fears and stoking fucking
Chaos and problems within our country. That's what I was listening to Tim Fowell had they had a guest named seven seas on there
And I'm gonna interview him and he presented basically that argument
He said he did a bunch of research and on major sponsors of various podcasters and

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Content creators of sorts like Candace Owen and Tucker Carlson and Tim pull like all these big names
And he connects all these dots to basically suggest that the people sponsoring these people are
I don't want to I'm not gonna put words in them. I need to listen to the whole episode
It's like two and a half hours

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But they have a good back and forth word Sam's like hey just because
There's some I don't know some company that has advertising that the company seems to be a white nationalist group
Doesn't mean these people are white nationalists. They might just be selling coffee that's called revolutionary 1775 coffee
Okay, and then they're just getting they're they got to get paid somehow
Yeah, but they find the people that say the things that they fucking like to hear and that's what seven seas was

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Basically, I think trying to say and that's why I want to get them on my show because I want to like unpack this because I think
Sam felt a little um
Defensive, I think yeah, because he's like because he's an entertainment. He's been he's a comedian. Yeah podcast
He knows like there's it's show business you got to make money somehow and sometimes that comes through advertising
Yes, and he's like his argument was look dude. I don't know that

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Candace Owens and Mel Kay and these names that you're presenting. I don't know if they sit down and say
Take marching orders from the coffee company like the coffee company doesn't say
Hey, we like it when you say anti-Semitic stuff if you keep saying it here's money right and I agree with Sam
I don't think that that happens that way either
But you're right they they seem to find the people that are saying the thing they like right

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Which but that sounds like the manipulation to me. Yeah, but then that sounds like the manipulation itself
It's like if I keep saying these things the money keeps coming in yes
Which was my beef with timpul who was making 400k a month from some turns out some rush and op
And he was like well, I don't know where this money comes from

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I don't I just do the shows right that's like dude if someone off from me half a million a month
I would be like who the fuck is this guy and you didn't look into it and you didn't look into it
I would at least look into it like if someone came at me and was like I want to I love what I love your message dude
You keep doing your thing here's half a million a month just keep doing your thing
I'd be like okay cool and then I would look into that person and be like okay

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Well like there are very moderate person okay that aligns with my branding or whatever my belief cool
But like his argue it was I didn't even look into it dude and I'm like you're a fucking crazy guy
You should be looking into everything including who you're getting paid half a million dollars a month from right
And maybe he did and maybe he was like I don't know just seems like this couple that's a story

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It's like it's just this two people and I don't know they seem like they're on the open up and they liked my messaging
All right, so maybe maybe that's what my point is is that they they
It's confirmation bias what I'm saying is good
And I'm going to keep do I'm gonna keep drilling into that space okay. Yeah
So no, maybe he doesn't it maybe it's like a manipulation

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Money is the manipulation yeah because if someone came to me like I like your very sort of
Chill vibe Isaac you don't go too hard to paint on anti-Semitism and but that never happens that never happens being a voice of reason
Never gets the fucking money Sam said that exact thing on there
He said if you go hard left or hard right that's where the money's at in the middle no money that so listen to that's what everybody should fucking take from this shit

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Is that there's money in the manipulation
There you go. I think we solved it the fuck up
When are you going to wake up?
That's my fucking point is it's like
They didn't have to know that it was built into the offering of money for his
The support you know what that you're you're on the money there because when I get people who sign up for a high tier

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high-level tier on my patreon, right
Oftentimes, I'll have a couple conversations with them on the email because I guess you know, there's the thrown you know large pledges
Abby and I'm like dude that's so kind. Thank you very much
and I've had a couple people who were
Very Christian like dude. I love that you are not afraid to say you're a Christian. I love your messaging

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And I appreciate that and I'll be all thank you. I appreciate that
But then it plants weird seeds in my head of keeping a narrative of keeping a narrative and I'm and I'm like and I think
Gosh have they listened to every episode because sometimes I'm critical of Christian thoughts. Yeah, and Christian
And I think this is what's hard about like
the double-edged sword of having

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cancel culture
of voting with your dollar and
not being able to
Have a conversation or hear a conversation of nuance because it's like if you say
I
Love you what your content is and then you say something that I don't enjoy and now I'm going to withdraw a pledge

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You're saying to us
don't step out of line
Don't question the things that you're supposed to be questioning because it that means that the mass is going to leave with you without it
It's where it's hard because I think that that's where it's like
Having the conversation and trying to

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Get out the sometimes you sometimes you can't come to the conclusion right off the bat
You have to like sit there and stir the bullshit until you can kind of see what starts coming out of it
You know what I mean? Yeah, I like that
And without that without me tripping over myself and tripping over my thoughts and and maybe saying something that's not necessarily true

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And then walking it back a little bit and like you that's a lot of complaints that people have is like your wishy-washy
And it's like because it's fucking not clear
Because I don't because we you you and I don't have
The final answers and people want that they want the answer they want the the leader that's like follow me
I got the answers. Let's go like people want that because people are sheep. Yes, they want to follow yes and

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Unfortunately that's dangerous when you have someone who's like hey, I figured it all out just follow me
That you're in for about to get fleeced yes
When you see someone that's that confident and those it's a con I figured it all out. It's a con. It's a con. Yes
That's what's hard about this is like listen
You're gonna have to listen to us sit here and float a bunch of fucking ideas and have a weird fucking conversation

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That is borderline
Like making everybody have a lot of fucking feelings and be like well, what are you trying to say right?
With us
Being like we don't know like I think you I think people are gonna listen to this and they're gonna be like
I know where they're fucking trying to take this
And they're gonna have these a lot of like big emotions around that and the truth of the matter is

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It's like no you don't because we don't fucking know
So we have to that's the the space where people find truth is the space where it's safe to say things that maybe are wrong
What we try to work out what's right and I think that's why Joe Rogan was so popular was because he was the only place you could have that

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You would this the only place where you would have a three hour conversation of
Him pushing back and I've always said it people are like oh you should go on Joe Rogan
No, that's a nightmare because he at least he used to be the guy that would push back and say he's not about anymore
I don't think he's either I think he's I think he's doing the same thing like how Tim pulls getting half a million dollars a month
Because if like I said if someone came to me was like I like what you're saying dude here's half a million a month

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I would be hesitant to change what I say yeah
Oh shit like I just got a kind of basically say the same should I be saying for another year
I'm fucking retired. Yeah, because if you trip and you say the wrong fucking thing and you now have lost that money bag
Now what?
And he knows that that's what all of these fucking people know yeah, I think that I think that seven sees guys onto something

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I don't know exactly how it pans out, but I'm gonna get to the bottom of it because
It was funny because I of course loved Tim for hot love the boys over there
Is not this is no shade at them. No, it was it was a great show because of that dynamic that dynamic of
He's presenting this evidence. They're like hold on pump the fucking brakes dude like I know Melkay

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She's a good good good person. I know fucking soleno and then they had this sort of scramble of
You know sam's like Johnny did we ever have a sponsorship with this company the wellness companies when he kept bringing up
And Johnny's like dude. I think it sounds familiar. He looked through the emails. Yep
They offered them some stuff. He's like I don't know if we actually did the ad read though and sam was like see and that's the point is

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Like we take sponsorships
And it's not like we're digging into like okay, well, do we agree with this company's thing necessarily right like to some level
Like on some level and there's truth in that there's truth in that and that's the fucking truth of the matter
But then you have to buy get I have to do that be like how much do they align with my world?
In vision. Yeah, I have any other people doesn't matter. Does it matter because like sometimes I'm like

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Oh, whatever. Okay, there's some vitamins fine. I'll do that
I that's why
it is become
the good place
Um, did you you never watch that with me have you no it is so fucking fabulous
It has Ted Danson in it and Belle what's her name Christian Bell Kristen Bell oh yeah

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Um, and they basically put all boils down to what a boil is out to is that
Everybody ends up in the bad place because everything is so complicated
That let's say you go to buy flowers for your grandma for Mother's Day
Well, it turns out that those flowers were picked by migrant workers who are not getting paid
By this fucking rancher whose um taking advantage of them

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So now the good deed of giving these flowers to your grandma is tainted by
This horrific thing it sounds like a critique of capitalism
I think it is it is it's so fucking it's beautiful. We really should watch it. It's clever and funny and
palatable and

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It's a really interesting show
But the truth is is that everything now is so fucking intertwined and so complicated that it's hard to be
perfectly good
You can't there it doesn't exist and that's what fuck what tinfoil saying
It's too complicated. I literally can't sit here and make sure that I'm only getting sponsorships

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But with people and the same thing with like the left where we're all trying to be like
I'm not gonna go shop and fucking Walmart and I'm not gonna go or target
Because they are not because they got rid of DEI
And they were all trying to do this. They told us for decades. It's like the only real true
Power you have is with your dollar, which I actually agree with

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It's it's too hard to fucking do
This is where government fucking supposed to sit you're supposed to fucking vote in people that have the I do your ideals
And value the things that of morality that you fucking value to help hold people accountable so that you can just fucking live your life
That's what government is supposed to be

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Not us voting not them
Siding with capitalist not them siding with giant industry to do whatever the fuck they want to whoever the fuck they want and then us all decide
Well, we are not gonna go buy shit at hobby lobby anymore because they're stealing
uh, they're stealing art from
Countries and and then hoarding it

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Hmm, so I can't go buy my fucking arts and crafts shit there. I think that hits on a
I think that hits on a what do you call it an ideological difference of
How you view the government versus other people that would be more conservative or libertarian review than
The government because I actually agree with you because I don't want to spend my time researching where I should shop and all this shit

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And who's the fucking bad guy in all this?
I would just hope that the government has stances and laws in place
To keep companies from having slave labor and shit like that right it will have more effect
Whereas like libertarians and conservatives would probably be like no just let the free market do their thing
The government has no say because the government's corrupt and they'll make the wrong decision and they're not entirely wrong

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There's truth in that right
But that's because for fucking decades they've told us that like
greed is good and
Voting doesn't do anything and that it's this two bird same bird with different wings
Two different wings of the same bird or whatever the fuck that was and there's elements of that that are true

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But then there's a lot that isn't true
I think what it does is you tell me that all of these people the Republicans all say look how inefficient
government is
It's so inefficient I'm good you hire me to go in there and disrupt it some fucking more
Right to make it more inefficient. I think it's a fair view of how they view things. Let's cut it

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It doesn't make any sense. They're not trying to make it more efficient. They're trying to burn it to the fucking ground
And privatize it which is exactly what you privatize it which is exactly what's happening right now
And that's what this dark enlightenment thing is all about it's about taking you know trump gets in there and
Is like hey, we should tear down the FBI and the CIA they do a bunch of rotten shit and a lot of us even can

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Mostly conspiracy we were like they've done a lot of rotten shit. That's true and
He's like well, you know what we should do is just have a palanter do it. It's about privatizing
That's what all of this is about it's about privatizing so that all their cronies can make the fucking pretty profit
Instead of having like government functions. They walk government contracts. It's all about government contracts

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It's about inefficient. This is you know it'll help it when I privatize three times the amount
Day three times the amount exactly and they want to privatize the IRS
They want to privatize everything they want to get rid of the government because they because there's this fantasy that corporate America can do things more efficient and better
But the truth of the matter is is look at black what is that company called black black water
There's a lot of black companies and other black stone black rock black water. What do they do? Do they sit there and try and save the government money or do they fucking fleece it

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In their contracts
Wake up
They're not gonna do it better or cheaper. They're going to do it in charge way more
Then what remember what you remember that there was a documentary that during the Iraq war
where they were sending out empty convoys of

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Samis right right so that they because they would make money on every convoy they sent even if they didn't have anything to fucking send
So they would put these people in fucking danger with empty fucking trucks. No
That we're getting hit with iud's is iud's no ied's ied's
um

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And blah blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, that was really how much fucking money was getting stolen in the fucking wars from these privatized companies. That was the haliburton right so
You think they're gonna be the ones to save you. Yeah
They they write this predatory contracts right anyway. Okay. Anyway, that's my fucking one of my soap boxes. Let's go. Okay

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Let's i'll keep kind of talking about the various sides of this so in the history of this
I'm just gonna call this Zionist conspiracy. Okay
A lot of
Ideas have been sort of building up over the over the hundreds of years like the Rothschild family
their Jewish Zionist apparently and they got rich from the banking empire they were using

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They were funding both sides of the Napoleonic Wars and there was this idea that they were orchestrating the war
To make profit off of both sides
Like they didn't care who won they were just like let's just make this war. It's fabricated war right
And that's interesting. Is that true? Yeah, it is true. It is
And they're one of the richest families in the world right the Rothschilds

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And then you have the early 1900s. There was the protocol or protocols of the elders of Zion it was this
debunked
debunked document that was supposedly these sort of like Zionist
Illuminati types and it's in bill coopers behold a pale horse
Okay, and he has a preface in there and he says

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Don't get round around the axles with to talk about the Jews here because that is like a distraction
He's like just so every time you see the word Jew just replace that with the idea the Illuminati like there's just this cabal of people. They're not all Jewish
They're a lot of them might be a lot of them might be right but it's not the thing
It has very little to do with faith it has to do with them implementing a control system to create a new world order and a global government

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Like that's the end game. Okay, a full totalitarian control system
Okay, so this is where my brain goes. I look at maga
And I say okay, let's break down who's in maga
We've got tech bros
right
We've got neo-nazis

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We have
Evangelical people in Washington DC called the family
We have Zionists
We have white nationalists
Right who whom I'm missing. Is there anybody I'm missing in that group?
gosh
Evangelicals yes Evangelicals

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neo-nazis
Tech bros oh Matt you got MMA dorks
MMA dorks yeah the MMA dorks in there
Right like the red pill bros yeah, that's probably a bigger umbrella the red pill bros
Which is include the MMA dorks yeah

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um
Okay
They all have counter
Ideas like how oh and then you've got the traditionalists
Right do the traditionalist fall in line with the tech bros
I don't feel like they do no they're they're on opposite ends the traditionalism

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Wait when you say traditionalist so you talking about the philosophy I'm talking about the like band-in
I'm talking about the banning people. Yeah steep banning is a traditionalist in the philosophy sense that's things that
It's again a flavor of these dark enlightenment folks that they think that democracy and equal rights
is all a waste of fucking time and

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It slows progress down so they want to go
Their anti-modernity which includes technology from what I understand of it
So whereas the tech bros are like no technology is the best that's accelerated how the fuck did these
Seven people or seven groups uh-huh get under one umbrella. I don't know why tell me I don't fucking know either

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I chatchy pt did okay
Yeah because that that is what's confusing is you've got a bunch of these different groups that don't seem to have anything in common
But maybe they do what I mean that because I was like how do they all have a they couldn't have a common goal
Lined lined up their egos are too much mm-hmm the unit of sand yeah, and then they in the conspiracy world there's there is this like I said earlier

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There's this sort of fragment of
Zionist versus none
Will you have Zionist in bed with in under maga with neo-nazis and in white nationalist
You're right like how do those two fine comment around have the same fucking
leader mm-hmm why why would you have that
Okay, let me look what I said

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Hold on are you yeah because like Elon Musk doing the
He's doing like the seagale at the inauguration, which I know people are like no, that's not it. Okay
But he was also funding the far right extremist sort of quasi Nazi political parties in Germany, which was a fucking failure
Which also was a huge failure by the way

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Let's point out how much the fucking L's that motherfucker's taken this year
Fucking goofball wait a loser entire
And I don't even know if I believe him on his amount of money that he is worth
You know he's a rich just man alive in fact I saw an article about how they were debugging how ditty isn't that rich either
Nothing's real. I don't think anything's real. I don't believe a fucking thing anymore

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This is what's so sad about life now. It's like we all lived under these ideas of like these people were rich
And they're gonna have and they're gonna do this and they're like
Special and whatever and it's like are they are they though?
Are they though because it's like from what I understand Elon Musk is notorious
For leveraging other businesses to buy more businesses

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So everything is an illusion. Yeah
He doesn't own shit. It's got fucking he's got uh
He's using it is collateral
Like he could never pay off all of his loans and still have money left. No, this is this is what mean you learned about rich people
They they all are in debt after their fucking eyeballs because they use their debt to build more well right

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So what the fuck are we talking about mm-hmm. Okay
So what do they have in common? Where do their their wants align right?
This is what my this is where my brain goes. Where do they fucking align all this shit and it says um
At the root all of these groups whether it's techno elites the family or white nationalist

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Or Zionist
They want they seek to define reality for others
They want to create structure where they set the rules
Own the narrative
Hold the keys to who gets to belong to thrive to matter and I think that's the fucking truth

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I think they think that they're all gonna use each other
Okay, like they're gonna just eat up the other the losers in this yeah
That's what I think I think they're just using each other to get a bigger to get masses
Yeah, cuz I think uh Peter teal and like the tech bros are
I think they're lined up behind JD vans because they think that they can just put him in

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At a certain point
Like I don't think they like Trump. I think they just think they don't like anybody
And they'll get JD vans and they really wish it
Cult of personality
His built-in charisma
Uh-huh that JD vans doesn't fucking have uh-huh
They just attach to it like fucking

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try to like uh like a
Parasite okay
See them saying okay, okay, whether it's framed as scientific inevitability
Where they're just following the facts the data superior logic or um
So they should of course decide which is the tech bros right they're the ones that should decide because they're gonna use technology

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And logic to push us in a direction right well. How could you
skew any of that information right?
Uh or divine authority where gods chosen stewards so of course we should lead right that's the evangelicals or the white you could
Even put in white nationalist. Oh right cuz they have the idea that there's uh

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That's what Curtis Yarvin and Nick Lann talked about is how a divine right to be white people are a better race
Genetically than all others right yeah, okay, and then you got the racial and cultural destiny. We're protecting what's pure
So of course we should dominate
Right and that's that's more the Nazi groups right

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Or I just think it's every group that worries about the mixing of the of the races. Mm-hmm. I don't think that that sits solely on one
Uh race. Mm-hmm. I think we all do it. Mm-hmm. Right?
All of the all of it converges in the same goal
Centralized power in the hands of a few

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Under the justification that they alone understand the truth
God damn it chat. You're so fucking brilliant. Yes
You know
Fear of uncertainty. This is where they use us fear of the uncertainty and complex all of these forces are deeply threatened by
ambiguity fluidity and mystery

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Techno dogmatics want the world that can be measured mastered and coded
Yes, the family wants moral absolutes no shades of gray the family meaning the evangelical the evangelicals
Wait, say that again slower the family wants moral absolutes no shades of gray. Oh totally

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That's what you know, I was getting a lot of shit when I said I was on Twitter and I said something to the effect of how
it's weird how
Everyone on Twitter and in the conspiracy world is cheering on
The Marines going to like fucking kill protesters. Yeah, I said that's it's weird to me like you're hanging on a totalitarian police state

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Why what the fuck yeah, and I got a lot of pushback a lot of people were like oh should you like
people waving palette mexican flags and burning and looting and I'm like
No, I don't think that's okay, but I also think it's weird to think it's great that the Marines are gonna these because there was this whole narrative going around about
Oh, there's sending in the Marines from 29 palms and they're real angry and they're gonna fuck a bunch of people up

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Everyone's like all these weirdos these fucking fake-ass maybe sealed sidelineers are like oh, yeah
Take out those protesters and I'm like you guys are fucking weird for cheering on the downfall of other Americans that are protesting
Sure the looters have the police arrest them do that but arrest them, but like we don't need to beat them the fuck up

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Yeah, it's weird. It's just bizarre and not to mention like the propaganda of there was AI videos going around of this of people
Burn in these cop cars and shit that wasn't real. Did you see those no? Yeah, there's fake videos going around and
Like I said, it's like nothing is real the conspiracy people for being so open-minded this sure are fucking dumb sometimes
And I'm like

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Question it just for a second right any go ahead the nationalists they want rigidity they
rigid identity
categories no room for pluralism or mix and that's the fuck it, you know
They all align in wanting to simplify the world into something that they can control because complexity is dangerous to power

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And that's the truth
Complexity okay, okay, so they're there so they're using
fear of the other
To scare people into what?
Whatever they they want to be the ones that rule oh
So like okay, so example here would be

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Immigration right trump and these and these people are like oh my god MS-13 Mexican gang bangers are in every neighborhood
You need us to fucking have a literal police state
Coming through your neighborhood to you know get rid of all these dangerous gang bangers right
Okay, god a narrative of
Exceptionalism each group tells himself a myth

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We are the rational elite we are gods chosen
We are the pure defenders of our people this myth
Justifies their claim to authority and allows them to work together tactically even when their outer rhetoric differs
So it's like that's it I that's why I was like okay, why would they all align because they don't have the same end goal

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But I think what it is is that they're gonna try and beat each other out at the at the finish line
They're all confident. They're gonna be the victorious ones in this battle here the alignment then they want to define what is true and what is allowed
They want to be beyond question or be it beyond challenge
To shape the future where the power and the secured

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And seen our righteous inevitable or natural
There's like some game of thrones type ship. I think or like yeah
We can't question it
They're like the tech pro is probably think they're gonna win because they're like look we own everything that's online
We can fucking spread whatever propaganda we want about these other people when we're ready to kneecap them. Yeah

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So then I asked as like
When you add the the Zionist to the whole situation I was like
Especially when it's political
Nationalists or expansion forms of alignment becomes even clearer in some ways when you add in the Zionist okay
Like the others Zionism is a political force not a Jewish identity or spirituality which is our separate and sacred in their own rights and often

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And often aligns are
control of the narrative
framing
Its projection as destiny defense
Historical justice while suppressing dissidents or a narrative or alternative views especially a
Palestinians or those criticals of states and actions

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moral exceptionalism the idea that it ends
Survival security destiny justifies any means because of its unique and because it's unique and righteous
fear of complexity
simplifying a deeply layered multi-ethnic multi-faith region

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In history into bionaries chosen other victims perpetrators civilized and uncivilized
What is it what is it saying right now? I think it's just saying this these are
the common alignments of
This of all of these groups
That once you add Zionism into this it even makes it more clear because there's this sort of religious angle now of

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It just is you you just have to look at each group
When I look at the groups and I'm like how the fuck did these people all get together? Yeah, I'm like
Why would the tech bros
That are a cultist that are they believe science is religion

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Why would they get in bed with the evangelicals?
Does that make any fucking sense? No, why would white nationalists
Give a fuck about Zionism
How does this all fall under Trump is Trump gonna be the the leader of this whole fucking Trump's Zionist right?

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Yeah, but they're also doing seek hiles at the fucking inauguration
What the fuck are we doing none of this makes any sense? Okay
You know yeah, there was a lady I listened to in interview she was talking about
The dark enlightenment bros and she said it was weird because she went to one of these
tech

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What do they call in Silicon Valley? They hold these like expose for
Emerging technologies or something and she said it was bizarre because it was just last year that you had all these sort of geeky tech row types
And then you also had the heritage foundation there who were giving lectures about why we need to have the nuclear family back together
And she said even the tech bros there were confused like what the fuck is this right?

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What the fuck is this yeah?
And no one seems to be batting and I have nobody's fucking questioning it that's what I'm like
What the fuck but how is banning in this and this is the truth like banning and fucking Elon are fighting each other
On the national stage
Because they don't align

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Yeah, they came together somehow
I don't know how that's what I'm trying to get is like why
And why are people not questioning this how is like normal fucking middle of the road americans
Watching this and not having a question pop up in their head and say what the fuck are we doing here?
This doesn't make any sense. There's no concise line of like thought

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There's a there's a lot of people
Waking up to the idea that APEC the lobbyists for like Zionist causes there is
puppeteering most of our politicians
They have a absolute stranglehold on American politics and it's bizarre

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It's fucking bizarre. Did you see that um
TikTok of I don't remember what it was it was like New York
Merrill that was either a mayor or like a governor or something like that and they're all getting questions. They're doing a
A debate and one of the questions of the debate was

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Where you where you gonna vacation the first place when you get when you become
Governor or mayor whatever the fuck it is where you gonna
Where's your first place you're gonna go and every single one of them was like I'm heading off to Israel
Every single one of them
Except for one guy one guy was like I'm not going anywhere. I'm good. We have a lot of fucking problems here

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And we're not heading off on a vacation. I'm gonna work to save whatever the fuck which I was like brilliant
Do you know anyone who's gone on vacation to Israel?
Do you ever met anyone in your life?
No, I don't know. I never met anyone. I talk about vacations all the fucking time with everybody I know
Just fucking church dorks. Yeah, that would be it

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But I don't even know of a exam when I went to when we were when we were going to church all the time people would say
Fucking embarrassing things like they would want to go
I mean, I would love to go to Israel. I mean, I would love to go see no doubt. I would too
But it's not it's not but I'm not a police place. I'm going. I wouldn't use it in a political rhetoric

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Yeah, if I was running for a local election
It wouldn't be the thing I would fucking say yeah, it feels like a manipulation to me it it I think it is
And it's a whist it's a dog whistle. I think it is I think they play ball with a pack that's what they're saying
They're saying it without saying it. Yes
Yes, I agree and that's why there's

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What do you call BDS or something like that? It's anti lobbying. You're not allowed to lobby
businesses that do
Boy, I'm gonna. I don't remember the fucking thing
I think it's called anti BDS laws where basically if there's some company that has ties with Israel
You're not allowed to boycott it in America and it's like what what yes? You ever heard of this?

(52:19):
I remember this coming up, but I barely this is fucking it's crazy. What are you talking about? It is crazy. I mean Nate
So that's where like a lot of the conspiracy movement is it's fracturing a little bit because Trump is very much a Zionist
He's very much in bed with Israel
Like that's not a conjecture. That's not he said in the whole time. This is what was so weird to me with uh

(52:41):
Was it dear is it dear dear born Michigan where they have like a large Muslim
population and they were like oh, we're not gonna vote for
um
Kamala because because the Biden administration had done enough to
Help the Palestinians. Oh, okay, and that was their big thing. They're like they're their leaders. We're telling them what we can't vote for

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Kamala
Because she hasn't done enough for in Palestine and so they're gonna go vote for
Either Jill Stein or Trump. Oh
What? Yeah, that's kind of strange. What are you even?
Talking about well, remember Bill mar was heavy into this thing when when the October 7th terrorist attack happened

(53:30):
Uh-huh in Israel, you know the Hamas or whatever the terrorist organization out of Palestine
attacked Israel
Um, didn't they weren't they they went into like a festival. Yeah, I'm like a concert like totally fucking brutal and awful, right? And
At the fallout afterwards, there was a lot of college campuses and folks who were protesting the whole thing

(53:53):
who were
Defending Palestine and Gaza and and Bill mar
was saying
What the hell's going on with these liberals? They're defending Muslims who have are very much not progressive
Well, right because they had like the gaze for Palestine. Yeah, gaze for Palestine, which is absurd too
They hate the gaze

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And but Bill mar talked about it. Bill mar talked about this shit. I mean it was every week for fucking a year
He talked about this whole thing
Right, but then when Elon Musk comes out and does a higher Hitler a seek Hyal on a national stage not once but fucking twice

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He says well, we all know Elon's not a Nazi. It's weird. What?
I don't trust Bill mar at all anymore. I used to I used to like him, but I don't like this is fucking nuts
And I could I could maybe you could maybe persuade me that the musk thing wasn't a Nazi salute
If he wasn't simultaneously funding the far right quasi Nazi parties in Germany

(54:59):
Right, if it wasn't for that I could maybe be like maybe just a goofball
Maybe to do it on the national stage no twice in a row the same aggression and then also be funding the fucking Nazi groups in Germany like bro wait to fuck up
In half of the group out there is is Zionist

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What are we doing strange bedfellows? I just feel like none of this makes any sense at all
Well, maybe that's what this new war war three is gonna be all about well
This Iran versus Israel thing because it's just starting we don't really know where we stand on it because at first

(55:42):
Trump distance himself from it was like hey, that's your shit
That Yahoo, but then within 12 hours he came out and said took off to fucking grease
Yeah, he's out the goddamn door
It's given Ted Cruz vibes
And
But now Trump's like yeah, though yeah, that we had part that we were part of that because we gave Iran 60 days and they didn't come back

(56:05):
So boom day 61. I don't know how anybody can believe anything that Trump says it literally switches within the fucking hour
Yeah, look at the tariffs. He's constantly flip flopping on like what what are they called him taco?
Trump always chickens out. Yeah
I just
It's madness. You know, he was the chaos candidate and this is exactly what he brings to the table

(56:26):
And I don't know why people like this. I don't get it. I don't get it
Like I want my president to be boring as fuck talk about bunch of boring shit that I don't care about
Keep this ship on the fucking tracks
Don't be tweeting weird shit and
Lion and doing goofy shit. We have to have this is the same reason like with our police
We have to have a certain there is a certain allowed amount of

(56:49):
Dignity that has to be within this
These offices because they hold so much fucking power. I think people get burned by I think a lot of people
Get upset at
government president politicians and rightfully so
But then they throw the baby out of the bathwater and then they're like all right. Yeah, fuck it all. This is all big joke

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And I'm like, I don't know if that's the right answer either
I know
And they like the idea of this sort of chaos of being like why trolling this trolling sort of energy is this feel good at anybody
It's it's weird to me. I think it's fucking weird like I want my shit boring
I just want to have I think most of us just want to have a normal life

(57:36):
Make some fucking money go on a trip every once in a while and have a nice boring life
And then you've got all of these fucking weirdos out here that are like they're like already I've already well passed that so let me do some other shit now
Because I'm bored. I guess
But anyway the the whole idea of like the wars in the Middle East um

(57:57):
these are
Again according to the sort of Zionist conspiracy theorists they do these in order to destabilize Muslim regimes
So that the Muslim regimes can't sort of come together to take down Israel
That's the story I don't ask me how exactly that's coordinated but um

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What did you say you said there was a massage agent went on 60 minutes
Yes, I did say that
there was a um
60 minutes interviewed a guy from this uh, I don't know man or woman
presumably a man
That a voice
Changer and a spul ski mask and sunglasses so you know clue what the fuck they were uh-huh and

(58:42):
They said
Something really eerie and in fact I want to make it a little note and I'm gonna play it for the audience to listen to
Right here. How did you convince Hezbollah to buy this?
Well obviously they didn't know that they were buying it from Israel. Who did they buy it from or I think they were buying it from

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We have an incredible array of possibilities
Of creating foreign companies that have no way being traced back to Israel
Shell companies over shell companies who affect the supply chain to our favor
We create a pretend world. We are a global production company

(59:24):
We write the screenplay where the directors where the producers where the main actors the world is our stage
and in the clip
the guy says something to the effect of
They are the ones that put on the show for the world they orchestrate the dance and the acting and they're the actors and they're on the stage and

(59:47):
The main messad or meaning is real messad which is Israel right it's the Israeli intelligence outfit
Which has a lot of parallels with American intelligence presumably they exchange information and stuff
Okay, which ties us into the world of Jeffrey Epstein
Which you're never gonna get the information from never Epstein fucking said him and Trump were best fucking friends

(01:00:10):
But Trump said they're not
Trump also cannot stop lying constantly. There's a bazillion photos of that man hanging out with him
There's video of him with their arms wrapped around each other sitting there talking and talking about women
Yeah, I was one of the things I said to somebody who was like

(01:00:33):
It was before the election and we were just talking back and forth and they assumed I was a
Trump guy and I was like I'm actually not and
And they were like well what the fuck man. I thought you were a conspiracy guy and I was like I was like you know
I'm not like a huge Kamala Harris supporter
But let's think about this here's one thing to think about two of the people on the Trump ticket are

(01:00:59):
We're hanging out with Epstein going to Epstein Island zero people on the
The Harris Waltz ticket at any relations with Epstein so
Like you want to talk about conspiracies like
I think that Epstein shit strikes really deep into the heart of a lot of these conspiracies because it ties into
You know gillain Maxwell's father was massage and supposedly Epstein was doing blackmail for massage

(01:01:24):
And this ties us into all kinds of other shit and that's why the those files will never be released for the public to read through
No, that's why there's this whole new op of cash pretel going on Joe Rogan to be like hey, that's not my lane and oh
I saw the video Epstein killed himself
There ain't no fucking videos, bro like we were told there was no surveillance videos

(01:01:45):
So what's the real story when did you guys lie to us when was the lie? Well, he Patel said that he saw the video of him kill himself him and Dan
But fuck Gina whatever his name is the other fucking tool who doesn't know how to work at nine to five job. He's crying on fox news about it
Like going at seven thirty
Yeah, dude like welcome to America dipshit

(01:02:07):
And he yeah, they were saying they both said they saw the video
Interesting and everyone with the fucking two working brain cells said one fucking video
All right, what are you talking about we were told the surveillance wasn't working that night which we all
So true as a lot and the guards were asleep. Yeah, they're there was all these oh darn it

(01:02:29):
And that's why everyone that's literally why everyone says Epstein didn't kill himself because none of this shit makes any sense
I think they got him out
He's still alive. I think he's alive. Where'd they say that they saw him?
Yeah, there's a TikTok of a video of their like isn't that him right there?
Come on

(01:02:52):
It's a it's a it's a confusing world to live in when you get into these conspiracy theories. Yeah, because then you don't know what the believe is real anymore
So what's next on your little
Well, um, I guess Bill Cooper was the guy who
You know red pill daddy'd me into this he will he talked about it and behold a pale horse

(01:03:15):
This whole thing like there's this global cabal
Zionist pushing us towards a
new world order which is
defined with surveillance
population control and a global government a totalitarian government and with the
Big-beautiful bill it
Is it the big beautiful bill that funds it?

(01:03:40):
Anyway, so Trump signed an executive order in March
Say that they needed to consolidate data of okay, let me back up. Let me back up. Peter till. Okay, so
Back in March wait
Okay, let me back her further so the government so when you as an American citizen
Work with the government in whatever form and fashion maybe it's the post office and you say hey, here's my legal name here's my address

(01:04:04):
or
The social security office and you say hey, here's my name. Here's my address
or
The driver's license place. Here's my name. Here's my address. Here's my height. Here's my weight. Here's my eye color
And so on and so forth right? Mm-hmm. All that data goes into those separate
government function offices and

(01:04:25):
There's a thing called the privacy act of 1974 that says the government can have your data
But they need to keep it limited and and separated from all the other government agencies
Because back in 1974 we decided
That we wanted things to be
We wanted we valued privacy over efficiency because think about it

(01:04:49):
If I have to fill out my driver's license renewal in
June and then in August I've got to renew my passport and then in November I want to go get a library card or whatever
You got to fill in your name address all that shit and all of those mm-hmm
And you could be like god this is annoying like it's the government. Why can't you just have all of that information together
Well, it's because of the privacy act because we decided we vote for privacy over efficiency

(01:05:15):
Because the problem is when you consolidate all that data into the hands of one area
you have fuckery afoot
And someone can hack it or you get a fucking dickhead leader who's like man fuck all these bitches. I'm about to
Wreck their shit if they have brown hair. I don't like them. We're gonna fuck a brown-haired people or whatever

(01:05:36):
Well in March trump sign an executive order that said hey, let's go ahead and consolidate all that government data
Indefiance of the night privacy act of 1974
And we're talking can you do that? No
But he said but it's like everything else. He said he's gonna do it. Will it happen? We don't know yet
There's literally hundreds I read through the New York Times article. There's hundreds of data points

(01:06:01):
Hundreds and hundreds of data points. It's not just
This that or the other. It's a ton of shit. You could build an entire
Degital matrix person. Okay. A dossier on the person and no damn near everything. There's no about them
Just by the information that each
individual
They would know like what books you're

(01:06:21):
Getting at the library. They know all right
Which are real which are real problems you've had any runs with the law you've had. I mean it just goes on and on and on mm-hmm and
The I the plan I think it's described in the one beautiful big beautiful bill or whatever in the current form is that

(01:06:44):
They're gonna pay Palantir to consolidate all this data
Based on the executive order and then Palantir says hey, we're not the bad guys. We're not gonna look at the data
We're just compiling it for them
Then why compile it exactly so they asked the White House
Why are you compiling this data and their response? I

(01:07:05):
Don't know no comment
That is your fucking taxpayers you voted we voted for this shit
And then they're gonna have the balls to say no comment don't you worry about what we're gonna do with your data
Interesting
Fucking outrageous. That is outrageous. It's outrageous
I don't know where the don't tread on me people are they turned out. They're the biggest pluses in the world. Yeah

(01:07:28):
Just as I fucking suspected
It's like the guy with the biggest truck on the block. You know, he's got the littlest dick
Yeah, and there it is and I said you gotta be shit me when I was digging into this I was fucking outraged
But that but anyway to go back to red pill daddy bill Cooper
That's what he told us. This is where it goes
Surveillance population control global government. I feel like the population control is is actually

(01:07:54):
Not gonna happen because look what are what are the tech bro saying right now
They see that the deep people aren't having children. They can't fucking afford them. Yeah, because bill Cooper wrote this in the 80s and 90s
And that's when they were doing it in China
Where they were doing population control in China, but now we have foresight of or now we have history to see
That it's not working in China and a lot of these countries

(01:08:14):
Don't have enough young people to help support the old people as they're as their
Population ages. Yeah, now it's going the other way a little bit like they need more people they want more people
That's why they're all of a sudden
You know, and that's part of the thing that makes me question liberal conspiracies. What do you mean?
Well, I don't know like growing up we were told like hey, we've got too many people and the

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Ozone is getting bigger and like the the climate can't handle this many people, but now
There's this panic to make more people
Because because I think because I think that they now know that
why we're watching other
Countries struggle with this specifically maybe the problem is under the capitalism system this can't happen

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But if you talk about if you're like what we're gonna abandon capitalism and have a different world
Then maybe that's what you still have people saying the same thing. We don't have enough resources to sustain life the way we have it
Um, was
You know our fast fashion and yeah changing everything making everything really cheap and shitty and then not having

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Repairment anymore now you just your washer breaks will you get a new fucking washer? Yeah, they've made it more expensive to repair than they've made it
To just go buy a new one. I think we're fucking done
They're because now they want to even in Utah here. They want to build nuclear power plants everywhere

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Remember like it was such a controversial idea 10 years ago to build con
Nuclear power plants now they can't build them fast enough. We're green light on everywhere simply because of AI because AI
Takes so much computational power. Yeah, and the problem is we're all paying for it because the electricity bills are
Well, you thought it doesn't give a fuck about the environment. No

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Zero fucks give zero. They don't give one fuck about it. It's what's surprising. We haven't built one already. Yes
They literally allow everybody's nuclear waste to come into arcs state and be put into a mountain
Mm-hmm
Yeah, and this is where the technology science people bug me because they sit here and say well those nuclear power plant accidents

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Those are from the old way we thought things were it should be done. We don't do that anymore
We're gonna do it in a safer way
It's so safe now and like bitch you motherfucker said that 50 years ago to yeah
So how long before the next disaster the problem is is weather
Weather is the problem of the of nuclear like well if you sure it's fine until a fucking tornado comes and rips through that shit and then fucking makes it

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Not run well
Right well or hurricane or a tsunami
Remember that was a tsunami that came through and fuck and fucking did that
It's the it's the earth
That makes it unstable
And how do you and how do you even know how to like plan for that?

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Mm-hmm
I mean, I guess they could be like well, I guess tornadoes happen, but you thought doesn't really get tornadoes. We've had tornadoes
Yeah, remember that one hit downtown Salt Lake and took Marona off the temple or some shit
Yes
Well speaking of the Mormons
The the Mormons Zionists I don't fuck ask you a little chat or the Mormons Zionists except that they are they seem like they are

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I feel like a lot of Christians are
Orthodox are we're not orthodoxy always right
Always right everyone else always wrong. Yeah, the orthodox they think that the when because the okay, so you have the Christian Zionist they think that
They can trigger the end times and bring Armageddon and force Jesus to come back

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To come take them up to their rapture
Into their fucking what's that dipshit from uh growing veins? What's his name? Oh?
Oh my god, I can pitch you always as a heart of a Kirk Cameron Kirk Cameron. It wasn't in the left behind series
That whole thing is all
It all came from some dipshit named Charles Darby is a dispensationalism

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He totally invented the whole thing
200 years ago, but yet and still every
non-denominational Christian church believes this but anyway
Um, and then Alistair Crowley was in the dispensationalism
um, and then you mix in John D from the occult and it's all about hey, let's bring about the Armageddon. Let's bring the end times

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And in fact the Christian Zionists, which is all your evangelicals
Of trumps every all these people all these people that are supposedly Christians who
are Zionists
Turns out they don't like the Jews they want the Jews to be punished
And that's part of the reason they want to bring Christ back which is awkward right
But yet they still come to the table kind of go along with your theory

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these these
Oppositional these oppositional forces come together go with the Bob style and
it's because the
the israel Zionists
Are using the american Zionists or funding and sovereignty and all that shit because they're like whatever dummies
You can sit here and hate hate us all you want just give us the money so we can maintain our presence here and

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Whatever
But the christian Zionists want to spark a final war so that they can rebuild this third temple over where the Muslims have the dome of the rock in Jerusalem
Would you find out about the Mormons?
Um, I feel like there's a Zionist if I was a bed man
All right, it gives me a lot of info

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See let's break it down. Oh, let's not break it down. How's about you just tell me
I don't know. It's a whole thing. I'd have to write well
You're someone in the comments drop the comment
Um, yeah, I did two shows on this on my podcast
In 2023 it's called apocalypse and times and the occult because we were talking about war in israel way back then

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And it gets into well Mormons call you ta Zion
They do don't they yeah, it was city called Zion Zion park or some shit don't they?
It's kind of like I don't think
I don't think Mormons really
I mean, they're not really christians
Not christians in the sense of like the way other christians are

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They don't believe in the trinity don't they think christ is going to come back in
misery yeah
They're not they're not christians the way christians are christians
Well in orthodoxy we believe that the third
Quote-unquote third temple is already here like christ and the church is
Christ is here christ is in the church

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Mm-hmm and all these other people are like now
We want the man the surfer Jesus
We want good looking Jesus down here. Where's that one with the six pack
That's the one I want sexy Jesus bring him. He's got to be kind of white
Just tan blue eyes he hangs out with baby goats and cheapies and

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And he's in a meadow with a light hitting him very straight very strange
We want him hot
He's got to be hot. I mean, he's god. Do you think he's gonna make himself ugly?
He's gonna make his own fat. No. He's like uh, what's his name? What's that guy's name that
He talks to spirit in

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The pyramids are at the at the Aubrey Marcus. He's Aubrey Marcus. Uh-huh. He can only fuck models
I just support it. Spirit only tells me to fuck models and young chicks
young hot chicks
Oh, okay
But all this has to go back to the call. I don't know if you want to go down this rabbit hole of the occult go

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Let's hear it. Okay, so it goes to eschatology, which is sort of the
the final because
It seems like when people
Have enough money and too much time on their hands
They all want to bring about this new world order of some kind like they're not just content they can't just

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Enjoy their jet skis. Yeah, you know
Like it's never enough for these people
Can't the all-inclusive in cancun isn't enough. No, it's gotta there's gotta be some other purpose
so
They want to bring about a new world order the final

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fulfill the final destiny of mankind okay, and it goes back to
King Solomon
From the Bible I wonder if all of the destruction in
In Israel right now isn't to destroy the
the doma the rock

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To build the temple it is weird that they haven't just mistletht the doma the rock
If that's what their endgame was it's like you could just do that and be done with it
Or do they have to weaken all the sort of forces around them
Well, I mean if they did that the Muslims would fucking lose it yeah

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It's not like they'd be like oh you got us who's the most dangerous group not to fuck with you think in the world
Cuz like those Muslims they had a chokehold on me for good 10 years on that terror war on terror
Like these motherfuckers are wild they will do anything that's scariest fuck
Cut off heads. Yeah, they're they are wild

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Make their women dress in head to toe covering so they don't get horny
But I think they're about that action more than anyone is the Muslims. I don't know you remember that guy off of the challenge
Where was he from oh turbo turbo
In Wile that guy's crazy. The five Muslims again. Yeah, I will slit your throat

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He was fucking nuts. I was like that's intense. Not the one to fuck with
I feel like I feel like they're the scariest for some reason
The Jews they don't fuck around either though. No, but maybe there's more to do it a little more covert though
I think it seems like more stealthy. Yeah, they're more like we're gonna videotape you doing some shit

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That's really gonna fucking annihilate you they're in for like the long game and the Muslims are like no this is gonna be brutal for you
Hahaha quick and brutal like can you guys just fucking calm down?
God
Okay, go with it. Yeah, the Christian all the Christians American Christians. They're not about that action
No, they you back in the uh
What was it the uh

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When they were like torturing people oh the uh inquisition the inquisition
That's what we were fucking wild. Yeah, that's what we had a good run back then
We're just like passin it
Passing the torch to the next one
It's so weird. Yeah, cuz then we then we came to America. We it's like genocide a whole group of

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The Native American Native Americans and made them become Christians and then we were like really super gross to them all
Yeah
Well, you know, I'm like the name of God
Cool what about the
What are like the Asians

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Like they seem like they're not
Well, they're killing Muslims too China's over there. Oh the leaders. Yeah, they're over there. Yeah, fuck them too
Any hope for humanity anywhere
No and the Koreans had slaves
And I think Japanese people took
Women and then made them sex slaves to their army

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I mean, there's no hope
It's men
It's man. I mean, there's one common theme. You know, I don't see women doing much of this shit
Exactly, we're kind of not doing this fucking gross shit. I don't know
Men is the ultimate conspiracy. Yeah
What would the world do you think women if the if the power dynamic it shifted do you think women would be any better or you think they would become brutal too

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Like if there's some kind of way to keep men from having the power of
Running things I guess
Because I'm not saying because you'll notice a lot of women in the corporate my observation women in the corporate world or in the military
A lot of times the ones that made it to the top were like
I don't say

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Masculine traits I agree with that of like cold fucking blooded shit. Yeah, you're like god damn. Okay
You're not used to right women are like a soft gentle place to be usually yeah, and
I'm not saying like let's have women rule the world and like have them emulate masculine
I'm saying. Oh, what if we gave women everything and just said let femininity let femininity rule

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I think that would be lovely. I mean, I think we should give it a shot. Well, what's the worst thing that could happen?
I know like we've had the men have been doing a lot of dangerous shit a lot of bad things. Yeah
Maybe it's time
All right go
So fucking King Solomon
So King David had a son named Solomon right

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Because David was the the king of Israel and he had the most it was the most powerful wealthy all that shit and
So he has Solomon inherit all of this stuff, right?
And everyone's like sucking up to Solomon like nobody wanted a smoke with this guy because he was he was kind of like America back then, right? Okay

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Um
And Solomon was super into women hundreds of wives
Couldn't have enough wives
So
Solomon amidst all this that sounds like a nightmare
Well, when you're the king
There's this environment with which Solomon built a temple to the house of god to house the arc of the covenant

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right
and
They did all this and
they
Solomon dies after he builds the temple and Solomon built the temple with magic, right? He built it with
it's called the
What are you calling?

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He used the
Lester key of Solomon the Grimwarrant spellbook to control control spirits supposedly. Okay
The ring what do you call it the I can't think of the name the seal of David the seal of David. Yeah, or the ring
They said he used a magical ring, but it's not a ring like jewelry. It's like a
Like a sigil kind of okay, that he used to control

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Spirits to help build this thing and it's where the dome of the rock is now currently, right? Mm-hmm
Well the master builder of the temple. This is where free masonry comes into it because in free masonry the story
Is that there was a guy named Hiram Abiff who was the master builder of Solomon's temple
And he encoded all of this sort of occult stuff into it because Solomon seemingly was into the occult a little bit

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controlling spirits and things okay, but I thought that was under god. I
Mean I guess
So was he doing occult stuff or was he doing
Religious stuff was that I don't understand
There's Solomonic magic. He was doing magic for sure
From God or I mean you see I'm saying is it like given to him from God to do

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So that he could build you I'm not sure where he went to temple
To house the Ark of the covenant. I don't know where he learned it. I really don't
So is this a bad thing or is this like just part of the thing?
It's subjective if you think it's bad or not. I mean
What is religion teach you though? I mean christianna who tells you not to mess around with all these spirits

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So I would say that it's not good, but maybe things were different back then
Hmm. I mean this is early days. This is uh
pre-Christ so
Okay, maybe that's what makes the difference
so
So King Solomon dies his son

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Rehoboam takes over
And the temple completed temples complete
temples complete before Solomon dies. Yeah, okay, and
It stayed erect for a period of time and then
It gets destroyed from Babylon at a certain point then they rebuild the temple a second time

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Um king herod built the temple a second time and that's the one that was
That temple was the one that christ
Uh
showed up and was flipping the tables
The money changing tables. Yes
Right, okay, and then Rome burned down the second one
Right, okay

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When Rome took over jirusselum
And the location that which is referred to as the temple mount
Is where the muslims built the dome of the rock that's where the original temple was
And they've had it for however many years
And they built it they they said that where the temple mount is is where abraham was actually going to sacrifice Isaac

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Hmm, and it's the same place also that jacob had a dream about the stairway to heaven
It's apparently very you know, it's like the most revered holy site on the planet
and
The Jews think that this is where the world began too apparently and if you look it up there's actually this

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It's called the well of souls there's a cave
Underneath the dome of the rock where they think the original ark of the covenant was housed
The original solvence temple
Anyway, so the Freemasons their story is that hymrabiff was the original architect and he was killed inside of the temple

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By three hoodlums because they wanted him to give up the secrets right
and
The hymrabiff story is
um
I mean they they emulate the story in all the initiations in the rituals of Freemasonry. Oh, I'm a bif

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Okay
And then there's all the sort of occult stuff
baked into the design of the original solvence temple like the twin pillars of boaz and yakin
That are at the entrance because the idea was that you entered
Between the two pillars and that would take you into the sacred
mental state of sorts okay

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Kind of like how the church has the na the the narthex and the nave in the orthodox church yeah, and
It's kind of this idea that you're entering a mystical space sort of okay
Which is which takes us into the 9/11 right because the twin pillars the twin towers
were taken down and they

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erected a one-world tower single tower from the two it's called the one-world tower literally
Which ties in all these conspiracies about the one-world order one global government yeah
You ever hear that no oh yeah, that's a whole thing. I mean I thought it was a hole in the ground
Where the twin towers was so they have memorials in the two holes in the ground, but in the center they built the

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the new one-world tower
Which if you get into Jewish mysticism and kabbalah
They depict the world as the tree of life right which has the 10th Sephiroth the circles do you know I'm talking about yeah, okay? Yes, and there's
There's actually three pillars

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If you look at it vertical pillars on the tree of life you've got severity and mercy and then center is harmony
that's the pillar of consciousness and
And that is what the one-world tower supposedly represents is consciousness a path to God
It's it's balancing out the opposing polarities and finding the path to God. So it's like a big ritual in a sense

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That's fucking weird. It is weird
Huh
Okay, so anyway using the the the
Rimwire spell books and the seal of Solomon which is the
You think the Knights Templar stole the Ark of the Covenant?

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Yeah, I think the Knights Templar were into some they were part of this like they're part of the whole story of this whole thing because
weren't they sent by the Catholic the Pope well they were
Who were they sent by yeah? They they um the king king Philip which the king at the time was in bed
With the church right they were kind of the same one the same

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But the Knights Templar was called the Order of the Solomon's Temple because that's what they were all about
It was going over to Solomon's Temple and taking Christian
Taurus I guess I don't know taking Christian what?
Taking Christians into the Holy Land
Because they were because it was like oh they were at war kind of okay, so they would
Yeah, their headquarters was that temple mount where the original

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Solomon's Temple wasn't supposedly they found a bunch of artifacts and stuff that gave them all this power
The Knights Templar yeah
interesting yeah
And it takes us into all kinds of stuff Friday the 13th and all kinds of crazy stuff
but the but the uh
church

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says that they took
The the does the church say that the Knights Templar took like stole the Ark of the covenant or did they get the Ark of the covenant out before
The Knights Templar got in there
I don't know the history of the art the I know they say they found the Holy Grail

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Uh the cup the church yeah, yeah, that's the claim. I mean, I don't know then I don't I don't
Where's the Ark of the covenant in Ethiopia supposedly that's it. I okay. That's what I was thinking
I thought so I was I thought I think I thought that the story went or the
I don't know whatever is that they've took the Ark of the covenant out because
Knights Templar was coming and they gave it to the Ethiopian orthodox

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Oh, and the Ethiopian orthodox have it hidden. Oh, you think it could have happened that long ago
Well, I don't know. I don't know if I'm like making shit up or not. Mm-hmm. Okay
I get stories put in my head and then I like I can't keep everything straight in my head
It's a I mean, there's a lot of components to this because like the Knights Templar they were occult as too. They had learned

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stuff from the assassins of the Middle East
Which the techniques of the assassins is it's very sort of
Uh, what do you call it?
Who's the guy who wrote the book
Sun Zoo Art of War?
About how to sort of infiltrate
Societies and take them over and stuff

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Hmm
Which you got to think a lot of these politicians are familiar with all these tactics. I think they love it
and these dorky fucking bros who are
Mm-hmm
Well the yeah, so this this is where we're going. I'm gonna
Fast forward to the end here. Okay. Why all this is happening

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It goes back to John D goes back to the occult because John D who is making contact with all these entities the Adonokian
Language remember all that we talked about mm-hmm and that's the angelic language that was given to John D
Yes, okay. Let's see very good. I'm starting to get it very good
The end that's the angelic language that was given to John B but D by one of his

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Spirits that he was in contact with
And one and it's in it's the same spirit that told him to bang his best friend's wife
Basically
There was multiple spirits, but yes, okay one of them
Which actually that that one actually comes up with one of them about to tell you okay go that particular spirit
I'm gonna read from

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John D in the empire of angels. I have an excerpt here for you. Okay
If hermetic magic was concerned with repairing the fallen nature of the individual alchemist
It's ultimate goal
At least expressed by John D was the repair of the fallen nature of the entire world by catalyzing the second coming of Christ
For D and many to follow him

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many to follow him
It was thought necessary to help this to occur through enlightened human activity the great work
Indeed the second half of John D's life was consumed by following the dictates of impatient angels
Intent on using human agents to advance history towards the apocalypse

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So that's what this is all about. It's about these and this is the theme you see over and over and over
It's people who get into the occult who make contact with entities
And those empty tees are like hey, you know what you should do you should kill all of humanity
Fill in the blank however that looks literally
through

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The culture implementation of technology that makes us obsolete
Whatever a digital matrix whatever all the same stuff
It's the same things over and over and over disembodied spirits are like you know what you should do
You should fucking kill all these motherfuckers
Isn't that crazy?

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And that's why so that's why John D and Everett Kelly were banging out each other's wives
Or Everett Kelly was banging out John D's wife. I should say John D was all
Sad getting cucked with his limp dick
Yeah, you didn't like it right no, he's like I love her though
Because I love her too
So they couldn't steal the deal and therefore we got to live apparently oh oh that's right

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But I think them having sex with each other's wives was gonna be a thing that sealed it yes and John D
Fucking chick like didn't couldn't do it couldn't do it
But when I limp dick for the save uh-huh thank god thank god for love
Haha hey, you know what what if that's the truth what if love saved us oh I love that that's a beautiful

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Spend on it oh
My god I because I think I
Think
These people are
When you say these people who are I lost my train of thought when these people when you talk about these people who are we talking

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Are we talking about maga are we talking about a cultist no no no no cultist
Shit I lost it
Damn I lost it
these people
Come trying to bring about the end of the world as we were talking about bringing about the end of the world and they're always talking to entities to try to make it happen

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Oh what are you gonna say sometimes I think they have overactive imagination
Like that's the thing that brings me back down from my paranoia
Because I'm like
Like like ideas of grandeur. Yeah, like John D and Ever Kelly thought hey we can bring about the end of the world because these aliens want us to

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Let's just swap wives and in all reality
Maybe they were at an overactive imagination weren't talking to anybody
Mm-hmm and netter Kelly was just trying to bang John D's wife the whole time
You know
And it's silly why would you two?
Swap and bring the end of the world like that's insane

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That's insane. It's just as stupid as these idiot evangelicals. You were like well
We're gonna rebuild the temple and then christian's gonna come sir for Jesus is gonna come save me
Like it's just a stupid right maybe
But they all think it I
You still have like the Christian right and the Christians believe that like

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Masterbating by yourself is gonna take you away from cry away from God
And you've got the other groups saying no you got to bang everybody with
In ritual like maybe there is something to sex that we don't that we're not recognizing
Geez
I'm not really sure. I don't know

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Yeah, there's enough there's enough energy into these topics that I think
I mean they don't all have overactive imaginations. Do they they had to have seen something in their life that make them say oh my god
This is the real secret
secrets
Like like i was to crowley living his whole life doing all this stuff
He had to have experienced something crazy for him to be like dude

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I'm not stopping. I'm just gonna keep doing this all the way to his death
Mm-hmm you would think it after 20 years of doing something and
Well, let's talk about dark enlightenment where you got these tech dorks in the 90s
um
Doing rituals
To for AI gods to come
Mm-hmm

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Maybe that fucking worked
Or maybe this is just john d end of the world version 2.0 and these and these entities either
Okay, there's three options one
This is all real and these entities are trying to end humanity however they can do it
Or two why and why why what what do they get out of that because they're because the if you're Christian warrior

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You think that these are demons trying to kill humanity
Trying to finish off the job or these entities don't exist at all and these people just have overactive imaginations
Yeah, and nothing is gonna fucking happen
Like that's a possibility
Or three the entities are real and they're just tricksters and they're just like fucking with us the whole time

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You know
Which would be hilarious
Which would be hilarious that they would like imagine oh my god
Is there like tell him to tell him to fuck his wife tell him to fuck his wife then he's got to tell
He's got to fuck the other guy's wife and they're laughing. Yeah, that's probably what it is and then they're like okay

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Now tell Peter teal tell him that they can make we're gonna make AI gods that are gonna come give them all these goodies when they when we come down
Oh my god
Or it's all real and we're totally fucked yeah, but the the thing that cuse me from going down that path is
John D 600 years ago thought he was bringing about the end of the world he was sure that he was gonna end his lifetime see the end of the world

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Then loves saved it, but then loves saved it so maybe that's the answer there
Any now that's all I got there's a lot there's like I did a
If people were more on the occult end of the world stuff. I've got a two-parter. I'll put a link to part one in the show notes
It goes through the night's template and free masonry and the Mormons and Crowley and I mean crazy. I went so deep

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I was like man. This is a work of art these two episodes I put through
um, I mean it goes through Q a not and all kinds of stuff, but the uh
The idea always takes us back to like entities and shit like that so
um
That's basically all I've got
Well, what else do you got can we unpack this any further or is is world war three coming?

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Is it the end of the world? Is this a Zionist plot and this is the sort of final
implementation or will there be a ceasefire tomorrow and the new cycle changes to something dumber next week?
Yeah
Which seems to be the thing right oh
My god seems like that happens all the time we get all wound up and like oh my gosh. Whoa. We're three. They're gonna draft and

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oh
But then it's like uh that fizzles out. It's like okay. Well
What did what's did he doing or what exactly
And thank god for that
I don't want to fucking go through this. No. Yeah, that that'd be the best news if next week we're like well
I guess the world three didn't happen

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Yeah, exactly I I felt like between I remember being scared of
the two thousands
The you know on on uh new year's Eve
Yeah, why you pay the turkish? Why you pay that was fucking upsetting
And then 12 years later then we had to go through the Mayan dumb fucking calendar
No, you had you had nine eleven that was a solid five years of

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Tarell and yes, yes
Then you had all of the wars that went that for that went with that
Yeah
Then um
The Mayan calendar
2012
Mayan calendar and then
2020 was the

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I guess we had some time there were between the Mayan calendar and
No, because in 2016 happened Trump got elected. Yeah, but I don't think anybody had any thoughts that this is gonna be the end of the
fucking world like like people think it is now
Yeah, but I do remember because I
Because I was susceptible to this I remember thinking

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That we were going to war for sure because he is this hard on for
Being a big strong man remember that and we were like oh shit north Korea was doing nuclear test and like in Trump's defense
Like we didn't do none of this shit. No no war really. I mean kind of not in the way that we were worried about yeah
And yeah, but he was just like you know what I really am into the way

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That his people listening to him
I know I was like can you not be a fuck and then yeah, so like
And we were also worried about anti-crash shit back then and we were also worried that he wasn't gonna leave office
And Bill Mars said that too and and I was willing to like any and he tried not to yeah, we were a fucking see hair away from that happening. Yes

(01:43:36):
But it didn't happen and then we had it didn't happen America turns out as a pretty fucking good system
Wow, I don't think I don't think Trump did not want to go in there a second time and just take the fucking election
I think he did want to do that he was trying and he was trying in his
Fucking you know, he's on weird little way
Yes

(01:44:00):
Where's Pence
Mike was it was he called my mom it causes what mother mother where's pants and mother
You can't rely on a guy who causes wife mother to save us can you guys get your shit together
You fucking weird as well. Yeah, and then we went through the pandemic. Yeah

(01:44:20):
Now we got another fucking weirdo who's out there
First off, he's gay he's on fucking Tinder Peter deal. No, well he is but the the guy that's in charge of the house
What's that guy's name but the glasses and he like Johnson Johnson
They put they got his they got his fucking Tinder account
Did they really yeah, cuz he was sending info he was sending things to gay men

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I think that's why they put these kinds of people in there because they know they can control them
Just be fucking gay. Well, who gives this shit. There's gotta be plenty of like
People out there that don't have skeletons in their closet. Yeah, why don't they get it? They don't get in
They don't get in they put in people that have something to lose so they can keep it over their head like you're just gonna do what we tell you

(01:45:07):
Otherwise you might have released your Tinder profile or whatever
Whatever
Blackmail they've got on them which takes us back to Epstein and we'll saw
And did he even you're right did he's got this shit too
Yeah, they're they're not telling us who was at the diddy parties either
I'm hearing about who was at the Epstein party. Isn't that interesting. It is interesting
Why wouldn't they

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Exactly because the whole thing is saying that diddy was running a racketeering this this web of racketeering with all these co-conspirators
Well then why the fuck are we taking them down to exactly yeah exactly
Which we'll be back with our diddy coverage whenever it's over apparently. I just can't do it anymore
I know but to be fair the the last we did four in a row and the fourth one is still the downloads are strong with this really people want it

(01:45:53):
Now oh, I can't listen to it anymore. I was like it's a democracy. I give them what they want in the first at the first
I was like ooh this is all juicy and then by the fourth time I was like I can't
I'm like the jurors covering my eyes
I can't do this

(01:46:16):
We're fucking doing this to people my god
It's poor women
Jekriss Nevada yeah they they're fucking nightmares. They're gonna have they're gonna be like I have PTSD from this
Totally my god
All right, what else you got anything else on this yeah, I mean I do but it gets real

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In the fucking weeds and I might do I even want to go through it. I mean do these people are
Did we already fucking lose them?
Lee okay leave it up to the comments on patreon if they want you to go into weeds with other stuff
All right, give us a sample. What does the weeds look like don't tell us all the weeds with what are territories are we you looking at now?

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I know you've had a lot of conversations with chat
I
Yes
My train of thought my the way that I've been looking at all of this was that okay
Magga doesn't make any sense to me and I don't understand how they're like gonna reconcile all of the their wants

(01:47:22):
Under this one umbrella and then as I've starting to think about it
I start thinking about what's going on with like the Zionist stuff and Israel
And I'm like that doesn't make a whole lot of sense that seems kind of suspicious
And then my brain goes into
This is where I get crazy. Then I start thinking about um slavery

(01:47:46):
Okay, and how slavery
Has a part in this and then it went from slavery to world war two
Because okay

(01:48:08):
Maybe
Maybe the Jews because what's the conspiracies around this?
How the numbers are inflated okay, we're going into holocaust denial territory now holocaust
You're really pushing the limits here. Do we do it? I mean do you want it? I don't know

(01:48:29):
Well, you might as well. Let's give us a little more. Give us a little more
What if
You had a group of people that decided that the ends justified the means
Okay, yeah, I know we're going with this yeah

(01:48:49):
This is a very hot red hot take in the conspiracy world that
Is that people wanted in Israeli state
And it was now Palestine and there was they needed a way to get them into there

(01:49:14):
Right, and I'm asking I was asking chachypt if
What all sent me down here was I saw a tic-toc that talk that was talking about
Sky was in orthodox Jew and he said that

(01:49:35):
Jews betrayed other Jews during world world war two
Okay
And I feel like my brains going all over the place. I'm getting a little
I'm with you right me. Yeah, yeah, I don't think you're far off. Okay
That
That they were selling each other out

(01:49:56):
That they were telling the Nazis where the Jews were hiding where other Jews were hiding
And they were sending them in there to kill them or collect them or whatever
Okay, and so I was like well
So was part of
Was this all part of a system to get a
Place for Israel for Jewish people to have like some kind of state

(01:50:21):
Where they could be placed right yeah, yeah, yeah
And then to hear that they were working with Nazis
And so I was like what was this true or is this not true when chachypt said yeah, it's true
That they were literally selling they were using and
He said it in a way that was like

(01:50:42):
Just to save their own asses, I'm sure yeah that it was it's not like they were
doing it
They were victimized by the situation and when people are pushed into a corner that they
themselves

(01:51:03):
Push back
Right like they'll do things that you wouldn't think that they would do because they feel like they had no other options
Yeah, yeah because when it comes down to people will protect themselves and their family
And all the other things sort of take a back seat at a certain point
Yes, so I asked it said yeah, Jews portrayed other Jews during the Holocaust. Yes, it happened

(01:51:24):
It was one of the most heartbreaking truths of the dark chapter of history and here's what must be seen clearly with compassion and without flinching
The Nazis engineered systems designed to break people's humanity in ghettos camps and occupied cities
They created privileged privileged classes of prisoners
Capos and camps forced to oversee discipline of other prisoners

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Jewish councils
In ghettos forced to administer Nazi orders
Choosing who would go to labor and who would go to death camps, right
Nazis exploited fear hunger desperation turn survival into a tool of control
They created conditions where betrayal sometimes

(01:52:10):
Seemed like the only way to save ones of family or ones own life
But then that made me start thinking about well where did they learn this from they fucking learned it from
America
This is the same thing that we did during this slave trade
when when you had masters of plantations and

(01:52:32):
hundreds and hundreds of slaves they had to come up with a system to
Make sure that the slaves didn't overtake the masters and they literally did the same exact thing
Were they taught they created a hierarchy and within that hierarchy they
Would give certain privileges so you had to have buy-in of the system

(01:52:58):
So that you could have these people police the other people of the same that seem to be the same
Right mm-hmm. Yes
Yeah, David I talked about this and one of his
Books about how you can't have enough law enforcement to police all the people so you need

(01:53:18):
Most of the people to police themselves
And that's what I think is happening now
Okay, I like it. I think that now we have
It's just the same poison in a different fucking rhetoric. It's like they use the same formula
It's the same fucking formula just tweak it every time to something new they used it in

(01:53:41):
America in call in the colonies with the slaves
To keep order and so that the the
Plantation owners and the land owners when it be murdered by these fucking people
We all had to fucking buy into the system and we did and then the nazi saw that and then used it again with the fuck with the Jewish people

(01:54:02):
And then it got used in Africa with the
What was it the who what was the hotel Rwanda the tootsies in the oh?
Yeah, yeah
Whatever when you had I don't remember the different names of the groupings, but they were

(01:54:23):
Basically you had a
bunch of white people your opinions come in and they separated out the black people and they said well your nose is this wide and your skin is this shade
And you look more like this so now you're in this group and you're in that group. Yeah
And then they had a radio guy come out and start talking shit about the other group and then they have a genocide like total propaganda over

(01:54:49):
I think that's the best example because it's
It's something as stupid as the length of your the width of your nose right
It's like totally arbitrary. They just use the formula like I don't know
We got to figure out a way to divide these people make it let's let's pick a
Number of how wide a tree exactly and then we'll use propaganda and voices on the radio. I mean podcasters. Yes

(01:55:13):
To push the division mainstream media whatever yep
That's what I'm saying. It's a slavery. They called them
They call it remember they called them house negroes. Yes, because they would sell out the other slaves so that they could have the better room in the house or something like that
But then they also did it with the white ones because
I think Irish settlers were also getting picked up like Irish people were coming over it into what's that called when um

(01:55:40):
There was something
It was
indentured servants
right
indentured servants where they would come over and they would have to do slave labor too, but then they all started
They were like okay, we got to
Separate this by somehow and then they started going with skin color like that's how we started becoming racist

(01:56:02):
Is that there didn't have like racism in that kind of sense before America
Started having slaves. Oh really well done. We listened to that whole documentary that
12-part
Seeing black or seeing what was that? Oh, yeah on point on NPR. Yes
On point radio or something like that. It wasn't called that. What was it? Yeah, it's called on point. It's called on point. Yeah, because I remember

(01:56:28):
I there's a it's phenomenal that one guy
There's a friend of ours
who uh yeah who um
Was very sort of libertarian crypto bro. Yeah
And I said something that was sort of fucking granola woke
And he's like too much see scene on it's got seen on that's what it's called too much seen on radio for you

(01:56:51):
It's pretty funny though, but the funny joke the docu the um seen on
Seen on now is that what it's called. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, it's called seeing black or something like that or seeing race or something
It's an NPR it has a very NPR's fill, but it's brilliant
It is brilliant and as you saw you saw how

(01:57:16):
they
used it to
Manipulate the masses and now they're they did it in World War two
They figured it out during slavery
They utilized it during World War two. They used it in Africa and now they're doing it again
That's what kills me about the conspiracy movement is

(01:57:38):
We the QAnon thing was the biggest sigh up to destroy conspiracies because
If you're talking about conspiracies you're talking about
waking up to people manipulating you through propaganda for their own ends and lying to you and when you read
Books like Howard Zins. Uh, what's it called history?

(01:57:59):
Something. I don't remember some famous Howard Zin book
He talks about all these different perspectives of the history were told and what really happened and
Like the white washing like they change history. Yeah, okay
And it's it's literally the plot from 1984 like in the 1984 book
They they have a whole thing called the Ministry of Truth that goes through all the news articles and changes out things to fit the narrative of the state that oppresses the people

(01:58:24):
But then you had QAnon that came along and said
Oh NPR bad woke shit bad education bad college bad don't be thinking about none of this shit
And they fucking a strong man listen to the strong man
And the fucking UFC fighters and the red pill alpha and your tates
They don't they love it why because it's a simplistic worldview and

(01:58:48):
Everybody wants a daddy. They want a daddy to take care of them so they don't have to think
And it's like I'm not saying like I'm not advocating for woke shit because sometimes that shit goes way too
fucking far
Woke like yeah being like too open-minded to a certain point of like sometimes it's like too much for me. I'm like out cheese. I agree
Give me a break, but we're also like almost gen exers right

(01:59:12):
But I think it's interesting because I do think that the conspiracy movement fits it's lend itself more towards
Some of those schools of thought it should I should say it should
It should lend itself more towards
Looking at the history of
How we've been lied to and been manipulated. Yeah, but you can only do that if you are thinking

(01:59:38):
Yeah
If if you're not thinking and school is bad and thought is bad and
Words are bad then what are we even fucking talking about right?
I just I don't know
It's all the same fuel

(01:59:58):
It's all the same lies. It's all the same machine and
So let's finish the thought so you had the hotel Rwanda thing which was similar to the
the slavery thing you had a
Some group some controlled or some some illuminati group that was trying to

(02:00:21):
Manipulate people to fight their own war sort of just think
Do I say this um
To take it back to like the holy wars
That we might be all living through and I saw a funny TikTok of somebody saying if you're gonna send a nuke

(02:00:47):
Don't send it at the end of the day
After we've worked all content day do it at the beginning so we none of us have to go work dude dude in our sleep better yet
Like let's call it a day
We're gonna have this is the end of fucking civilization don't make us work all day and then yeah drop them in like the time zones of when we're sleeping

(02:01:09):
Like start with like the east coast and work your way west
Exactly, but I was like okay
They're not the same right but they all bought into the same system. It's like
Of us turning on each other of us policing each other policing each other. Yeah, okay. I like that. I like that

(02:01:35):
And I wonder if
The Jewish people and in the thing is is that they did they had
They were turning on each other
Yeah, I mean
They had Jewish people they made a deal with

(02:01:57):
Germany
To help facilitate Israel
Before war war two no in world war two because they were saying um

(02:02:19):
Because I thought the whole deal with Israel was it was only created after World War two like what were to happened?
and
The United Nations or whatever came together and said all right Jewish people you get
But wouldn't have ever if they didn't have World War two
Apparently not
That's my that's my idea is like would this have ever happened if they didn't have to go through that

(02:02:48):
The atrocities of the war made it so that you couldn't so that they could
kind of like how
Israel today bombing Gaza and
You've got protesters who are now defending Palestine and Muslims in that area
Because they're like this isn't fair. Mm-hmm. You're killing kids and shit

(02:03:08):
But those people the the gays for Palestine thing that wouldn't have existed unless that happened
I
I don't know
Really makes your head spin really makes you think about a lot of things
There was this
Have I guess a Havara HAAVA RA agreement in 1933 never heard of it

(02:03:36):
This was the most well-known arrangement a pack between Zionist organizations and Nazi Germany
It allowed some German Jews to immigrate to Palestine
Enabled part of their assets to be transferred via German goods sold in Palestine
It was bitterly controversial even within the Jewish world many saw it as pragmatic way to save lives other saw it as

(02:04:02):
Underlining the boycott of not of Nazi Germany
So important truths right that so this is G. ChatgbT
Okay
Vaseinus who engaged in the nots with the Nazis were not endorsing their ideology
It wasn't collaboration of the sense of shared goals. It was desperation

(02:04:25):
Desperate magnetism face of in the face of annihilation
The Nazis saw it as useful for their own twisted aims expulsion of the Jews while the Zionists saw it as a lifeline for people with few options
Hmm
This was in 1933 when did the Israel state come about?

(02:04:46):
It was after World War II so you know 48
46
I'm looking at your this Havara agreement
Yeah, it says the agreement on Wikipedia says the agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany
the Anglo-Palestine Bank

(02:05:09):
and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany but I thought like
I and this all happened before this is before the war before they started doing all the shit they did right
That's right because I thought the whole thing with with the Nazis was they they hated the Jewish people because they thought they were this
vermin cabal of

(02:05:31):
Yeah
of a woman oddty types
I didn't know that I thought they just thought they were
Unsavory
Jesus in the same with gays because they were going after gays, you know what I mean like it was handicapped people gays and Jews right?
Yeah, yeah, it's all like eugenics of eugenics and fear your people quote unquote inferior right right
Oh, that's strange

(02:05:55):
I don't remember hearing about this ever no so that's why I was like okay, is this like
Oh, it says we're here at the bottom it says in a poll in the postwar period the agreement as sometimes in sight
It by anti-Zionist anti-Semites and critics of Israel as evidence of Nazi support for Zionism or Zionist collaboration with the Nazis

(02:06:18):
I just I just wonder if we have
What do they say?
Chatty BT said
simplification
Helps with them controlling the masses
right
Over simplification is control is a control mechanism yeah, maybe this is way more in depth

(02:06:42):
Than people just not liking Jews
Yeah
Yeah, because like I've noticed with
Like with uh what was Henry Ford?
Was Henry Ford a
What is the question or what was he because he was supporting money to Nazi Germany wasn't he?

(02:07:05):
Yeah before the war before the war I think he funded the Nazi party
Because I think that's the defense of him was that he
Um
Let's look here
Ford was known for his passiveism during the first years of World War one
Although during the war is coming to begin with major supplier of weapons

(02:07:28):
He promoted the League of Nations in the 1920s Ford promoted anti-Semitism through his paper the dearborn independent
And the book the international Jew
He opposed this country's entry into World War two and served for a time on the board of the America first committee
Sounds like it now times you know what I mean now we're back to this whole isolation shit

(02:07:53):
Yeah, cuz I think about the America first deporting deporting America first yeah when they talk about this is yeah
You're right because it's when they're talking about deporting the immigrants
These are American jobs these are white jobs. Yeah, the people I talked to
That
Wanted what that want this to happen they want ice knocking on everyone's door

(02:08:14):
They do it because they're afraid they think that these are criminals and MS-13 gang bangers everywhere
Because that's what they were told that's what the news tells them
Is like hey these guys are criminals we're getting rid of all the criminals but then
In the reality they there was this whole ordeal the Stephen Miller said go to home depot
Sorry to rest the nose guys and that's not what anybody wanted they wanted the criminals gone

(02:08:38):
Which is understandable if there's a bunch of criminals
But it's like we have a criminal system. It's not like they
Arrest these gang bangers and then say oh
Parolegial legal let's just put them on the streets again like that's not how it works
There was already a system in place. So it's like manufactured it seems yes manufacturing of the other

(02:08:59):
Manu factoring of the other just like
It's been done a bazillion fucking times and then and then it goes back to the beginning of the show where I was talking about how I said on in on Twitter
I said you guys are weird for
For rooting on this military beat down of American
civilian civilians

(02:09:21):
It's the same argument of it's weird. You're rooting for a police state because you think that they're going to give you this
Supposed safety of kicking out these supposed criminals that are really just these these people trying to get work to make money
It's a deduction of safety. It's a deduction of safety
Crazy

(02:09:43):
I just I don't know I just don't know how people
Can sit here and look at all of this stuff and not question
What oh that's much nicer trying to gently drink my icy metal cup
But um

(02:10:04):
I don't know how you if you're in magga
And you know all of this stuff is happening
Why are you not questioning it?
Why aren't you questioning what the common denominator here is maybe no one's to put this together like you

(02:10:24):
Just did
I don't know I doubt that I just don't think people think yeah, they just get told they love to be told what to fucking believe
It's like they're all wearing their sports team
Who do we hate now? Oh, okay, we're gonna hate them now
That like people want to fit in they want to fit into the tribe

(02:10:52):
Is safety and being in the tribe. They don't want to be ostracized for independent thought
Like it goes, but it's just that simple right that's what that sapiens book by you. Well, Harari talks about
it's like
Our our genetics have this desire to fit in for safety
Because back in the day if you express an opinion that the tribe didn't have that was dangerous you were gonna die

(02:11:16):
You would be outside of the tribe you would have no resources
You'd be starving to death and freezing to death and an animal is gonna eat you
Because you needed a society to survive back then
Well, we still do that's why it's scary to sit here and talk about this shit
Hmm well
Interesting conversation here

(02:11:39):
Um
Where to put a bow on it
You think this is the end of the world is world war three
Who knows it could just be more
bullshit
That's not gonna you know what I mean
Who knows
I mean if you would have told me if this would have happened

(02:12:02):
15 years ago I'd be yes
Yes
Like this is the end of the world now
maybe
We'll see what the news cycle brings tomorrow
Lots of fear
lots of fear

(02:12:22):
Do you remember this when we were kids where we just not paying attention and we're just dumb kids and enjoying life and
Here's though I was a dumb kid enjoying life
We're bad things happening in the 80s and then 90s it feels like it wasn't
Not like this, but I remember watching the goal the big deal was that he was getting

(02:12:45):
Clinton was getting a blowjob. No, I remember the golf war watching on TV being scared because they had
Tracer rounds and the night vision
And the oil fields were on fire. Yeah, I remember those scary as a kid. Yeah, I do remember that
Maybe information isn't worth
Maybe ignorance is a little

(02:13:08):
A little fucking nice
Do we have to know everything? Yeah, because I don't it's not that if we
I mean look is if you live in Israel or I ran right now shit is terrifying
I couldn't imagine so it's not to say that this is newsworthy or it's not scary
It's just like how much

(02:13:30):
I think it goes back to that idea earlier. It's like this is why we vote for government people who have our interests
If you have shared morality you want them to share morality of saying like hey, can you guys calm this fucking word out?
So I can just worry about paying my fuck of bills over here. Yes. I guess the reason why we vote you fuckers in there you deal with this shit
Yeah, except for now they want people
That they want to have a beer with now they vote people that are

(02:13:54):
Big giant fucking blowhards. Yeah
What yeah, I want the goddamn nerd
The quiet nerd that's like okay listen. Yeah, you ain't nerd reads some books on the history of Israel and Iran and you
Find a way to peacefully make this end
I don't want the fucking the UFC podcaster in there

(02:14:18):
But I want the calm nerd. I don't want the fucking rage field
Nerd that's living in the basement. Yeah, you don't want that nerd. I want the academic nerd academic nerds. Mm-hmm. That's like
Quiet and smart. Yeah

(02:14:40):
Like the book nerd
I like a good solid book nerd
Not one that really is into star wars and not into bathing
Well the bathing maybe that's not a required thing it could be a book nerd that doesn't bathe
You don't want the Disney world nerd. No

(02:15:00):
No, I want college nerd. I want college nerd
No, I want the one that was really clean. Do you remember those nerds back in the day?
Kind of dress like point dexter
Yeah
That was smart
Yeah, they read stuff and they didn't care about fashion

(02:15:20):
It was just like clean and nice and uh
They had insight
And they were mellow like not filled with fucking rage now all the nerds are filled with rage. They're all watching anime
Getting all fucking jazzed up on revenge
How to have seek revenge on the world that they don't fit into

(02:15:44):
All right two hours. Let's go. Okay. That's all I got. I got nothing else. I got nothing else
All right, well, I don't know we I don't know if we solved anything, but you had some good red hot conspiracies there, so
I thought that was good. All right, we'll be like good. All right everybody if
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