Bring the Pain Presents | The VGM Hall of Fame: Mega Man 2 - Bring The Pain

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Yo, everybody to you old body, So let's get to
it from the bar. What's up, everybody, is heat over

(01:45):
Ride and I am ready to put the bad for
you this week. Oh yeah, wasn't that a hot intro?
That's exactly what I thought when I first put in
Mega Man two four my Nintendo entertainment system. So you,
as you can tell, this is gonna be my first

(02:07):
entry into the video game Hall of Fame, you know,
after recently create finishing the It was the Calco version,
No one of those other systems, okay, Commodore, Commodore. So
the BG Mania did an episode on one of the
composers that made a lot of games for Commodore, and
it was always those beetball right, all the little boots

(02:31):
and bleeps and all the little things. Yeah, you know,
the things that make me go to the tap.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm needed in this episode, heat over Ride. So you
better get witted.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
O ye, And I'm gonna get with it, macho man,
dig it. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. Because we
talk about video games that you get with me. I'm
gonna give you a little bit of facts, but I'm
gonna give you a lot of memories. A lot of things.
So you know, I am taping this, this is none
of this is all it pre made. I am literally

(03:02):
gonna hit play fades. I'm doing all that on my own. Wow,
y'all watching me and stuff like that. So that's what
we're doing, man, and that's why we love it. But
Mega Man two. So I didn't get a Nintendo going back,
and if you've listened to my other video game Music
episodes VGM episodes, so VGM is what us VGM masters

(03:23):
or producers, composers call it for everybody that's new to it.
So when I went back, you know, I didn't get that.
I got the Atari seventy eight hundred and I had
to go to school with everybody got the Nintendo Entertainment System, Zelda,
super Mario. I had to go to school and I
got made fun of because I just had Desert Eagle

(03:46):
and that didn't come out for a long time. Now,
I will say the Atari seventy eight hundred was good.
I liked it had the nice cool stick two buttons,
two buttons, so that was always a cool thing too.
But from me, it was it was there. It was
just music. I played. I beat some of the hardest
games for the Atari Raiders of the Lost Art, you know,

(04:09):
and you got your Indiana Jones music because Atari seventy
eight hundred Tari twenty six hundred could do that. You know,
Do Do Do Do, Do Do Do Right, And you
know even in Superman and all those other themes, you
always got it. It would be always at the funny
like what was at the beginning of Pitt Fall Bike

(04:30):
or now that was the rope song. Anyway, that's what
VGM meant. But when Nintendo came out, and of course
the Second Master System, we got actual music, actual composers
using real chip tunes, chipboards and all these different channels
to actually elevate all of our minds to another level.

(04:50):
And I think that's what Ultimate led me to DJ
Magic Mike, Well, Dave led me to DJ Magic Mike.
But DJ Magic is Mike Sound, Simon Sound, all that
kind of thing. The way Simon Elite Force, Simon Shackleton,
that is, if you know lunatict Calm days, he did
a lot of video game music itself too, And that's

(05:11):
that's just unique because that's how I felt in love
with Lunatic Calm, which now Simon Shackleton. But I mean,
everybody else is still good, they're all together. But for me,
it started with when I finally made enough money and
as a paper boy and I bought my Nintendo. In
the first three games I bought was Ninjagate into Mega

(05:35):
Man two and Iron Sword Wizard and Warriors Too. Yes,
I still have those games to this day. So that's
the best part about, you know, being part of these
VGM episodes and getting some of those memories. Of course,
we know that it came out as Rockman Too, The
Mystery of Doctor Wiley nineteen eighty eight. You get your
cap con for the Nintendo Entertainment System comes over. Now

(05:57):
there is there was practically Mega Man two was what
was left over a Mega Man one, which was crazy
because there was only six robots in Mega Man one.
And and you know I own that game too. Actually
traded for that game. I traded Jackal for that game.
I traded because once I beat jack a lot was
just done with it. So it was a two player

(06:18):
game and most of the time, you know, at this age,
I'm not gonna really play it with anybody else, so
why not just have Anga Man one, which, of course
the Slitch and everybody else, all those systems and all
those emulators kind of let us play anyway. But this
was the leftover music. Now, you go through Mega Man
one and it was good and the music was okay,

(06:39):
and you got to think. When I got Wizard and
Warriors and I played that, and then I saw Wizard
and Warriors two, and just being the new game, of
course I'm gonna jump on it. So when I got
to the music and Ninjugaated two, mind you, I've done
my Nijugated Prilogy podcast. And at the same time, when
you fly it back around, I had Mega Man two

(07:01):
and so for that I wanted to say, you know,
that became where I fell in love with video game
music because for the first time these two games, I
rensworded Wizard of Warriors too. I'll just say Wizard of
Warriors too. I don't need or iron sword. I'll just
I only keep saying that, right, people, we all know
it's all on the thing. But actually what ended up

(07:23):
happening was for me, I was able to open my
mind up, and these songs did it. And I started
hearing things in these songs that made no sense. I
didn't understand what my mind was telling me talking to me.
People say, play the record backwards. The Devil's talking to you.
I don't really know about all that, but I do

(07:44):
know that I liked to pluck the bird, and that
is what made it unique. Now, my mother also loved
to play Mega Man, just like she'd liked to play
Super Metroid. She loved to play Mega Man two. So
she was always and she loved the metal Saw Weapon
Man from Metalan. That was just that was just what
it was. It's just to see your mom playing a

(08:06):
game like that and not an actual like Atari game
or Doctor Mario or well, she was good at Doctor Mario,
let me even get that right, But to see her
step it up and even play Super Metro, that was
crazy for me. So that was always an attachment I'll
always have with my mother, as well as also having
an attachment to other things, other games and things that

(08:28):
we can make it happen, so let's get it together.
We talked a little bit about that, of course, the computers.
The composer in Megan Man two was hopefully I don't
get this wrong, it was Takashi Takeisha tataisha Rightsha Takisha right, yeah,

(08:49):
Takashi tata tash tatis Well, I tried. I tried, and
you know, you think I'd be getting good at this stuff,
but that's what happens. So let's get to it. Let'st's
get to the next song in our episode. This is
gonna be metal Man stage because metal Man was one
of the easier robots to beat, and once you, of
course got the metal Blade, it was overpowered. It was

(09:12):
great to have and is shot in every direction and
it made things a lot easier. So here we go.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
And wow, wow, wow, wow man, that just.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Was so crazy, crazy, crazy good. I mean just hearing
that first stroke, did.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
You did?

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Did you come on?

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Man?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Come on man? That's what I'm talking about when it
comes to the video game. Music that makes you feel
so good, makes you feel great. But another thing that
didn't make you feel great was this next board, because man,
what it hats you up? Eat you up like heat override.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
The coming.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Man, old man, or man, old man. I mean that
was just hot.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
That was hot, hot, hot hat man.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
What I loved about that is that that that that
song had to be made like that with the fast
loop because that board kept you on your toes and
with those disappearing blocks. I know a lot of you
had nightmares. You keep hearing the other you just want
to go crazy. You're just like, oh dude, no, no no,

(13:22):
and then they get you and you die. Or you
just make it easy and use your you use your
one two three. I think it was one right one
No two two was the surfboard where you flew completely
across the board, and Mega Man two had a lot
of challenging things to it. So you know, I didn't
expect that as a gamer, and I didn't really know
so much of I and you played in Educated one.

(13:43):
But now I've beaten Educated two. I've beaten Iron Sword
Wizard of Orders two, which, by the way, if you've
never played that game, that game is hard. It took
me a second to understand that. So there's a trick.
A lot of people just go up and fight all
the elements together. No, you don't do that. If you
ever played with are your Wizard of Warriors too. You
want to just go up and get just far enough

(14:04):
to where one one element comes down, You kill that element,
you try to pull down at least one more, and
then you get it, and then it finally you go
up and you just wax the other two and you're good, right,
have it all for those things attacking you at once.
It's a little wild, but you know you can beat
it that way. But that's kind of one of those
things that was kind of so I was already getting

(14:26):
good at hard games, and Mega Man two did have
some hard, hard moments.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
The second is at the second foss the Minds one
where you have to blow up all the all the
nodes on Wiley Stage two. I think it is when
you get there, you have to go like you can
only use so much of your your conveyor belt number three,
I think it was. And if you ran out of that,
or you ran out of crush Bomb, you're done. You're done.

(14:52):
So you know, that's the best part that makes so
much these VGM episodes so fun for me. It's just
reliving all these moments and hopefully you were leaving these
moments through my thoughts, my memories, my words. It is
because you experienced the same things, the same heartache at
times and all that. Man, believe me, I didn't get
to the Orange one. I beat Mega Man two before
I beat Mega Man one, and I beat Mega Man

(15:15):
two or Njugated two before I beat Njugated one. No, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because at that point I had not own educated one,
so I had to go buy that and then I
beat it and just like that was a whole night.
That was I think I was late to school that
next day. But we're not gonna talk about that. Let's
get to the next song. Let's get to this banger
of a track Woodman Stage.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wow Wow wow. I mean, come on, come on, people
tell you, this isn't bringing back memories for you. This
isn't bringing back anything for you like that. That's just
that that do do do do do Do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do Do Do do do That was

(17:55):
just awesome. But the way it began the song too,
it was like a drum beat, drum based whatever you
want a quote. It almost sounded like the Batman Return
of the Joker Stage one, Stage six song. Right. I
love that song. That's like one of my favorite songs.
If you ever heard it, heard it, go ahead Batman
Return of the Joker. That thing just starts out.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Do.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Do do do do do do do? Dude? That that
that that led when I first heard that hook Man,
and then right it gets to that point where it
goes it goes right d d d.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
D D.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Bat Man, Batman, bat Man, because this next song has
actually a song, a little thing. So when I first
made it, the bubble Man song bored and I heard
the beat and for some reason, all I heard was.

Speaker 7 (19:00):
Blue red.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Red?

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Did it?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
Did it?

Speaker 7 (20:27):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
What I was? I right? Was I right? I mean
you are a blue red in cheese, blue red in cheese, Dodo, Dodo,
blue red in cheese, blue red and cheese. Like I
don't know why I get At this point my mind
was broke. Making into Nitugating too had done broke my head.

(20:51):
I didn't know what was going on anymore, with these
all these games and these greatness and things and going on. Yeah,
I was getting in yeah, yeah, man, I was getting it.
I was getting really high, high like the wind, not
ride like the bulls. I win. We're talking about air
Man stage Oh.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, oh man, and and.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
That off Feavers.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
And whoa, whoa, whoa who.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Like I know y'all just heard it, man, But sometimes
I just get so passionate about this music. This music
just just breeze me. It's why I fell in love
with this, this, this right here, this is why, this
is why, this this is it was I gotta say
it definitely was Mega Man two overnitiugating too, and it was,
of course it's of course because of one song, and

(23:31):
that one song was truly amazing. But for me, it
came back to just all of the songs as a bunch,
you know, going through what we've already gone through. And
I didn't want to hit every song. I didn't want
to feel cliched. But I had to play a lot
of the songs that I loved and a lot of
songs that you are are popular. So for me, that's
what the next thing is gonna be, because you know,

(23:53):
just like life, it could be over or it could
start in a flash, and with one good song, you're
mind can come a min Yeah, yeah, yeah, flash man.

(25:28):
I mean that board alone was just wild because you know,
you had the whole you know, and you're just like,
you know all that it's just the blue. It was
kind of like it was you two, so you're just
like in the background, you had all that stuff going on.
And so for me again, this music as well, and

(25:51):
this is why Mega Man two was one of the
best selling Mega Man games all time. It was it
was like sitting in practically number two until Mega Man
eleven beat it. And that's because people were just thirsty
for some Mega Man and because games costs more. Now,
you know, this game right here definitely didn't get as
much play as it back then, especially with the first

(26:12):
one and starting off with slow sales and then eventually
picking up, but then people just started putting it down.
Games got bad raps. Back then, there was bad games,
and there was games that were too hard, and people
would take the back, return them, trade them, you know,
sometimes get full credit because they'd be sitting there crying.
These kids would be crying.

Speaker 6 (26:31):
Not me.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I would just be challenged, challenged like the worves. I
want to get you down and I will beat you.
And that's what that determination has led to me being
a lot of video games with friends and without them,
because there's a lot of single player games, a lot
of multi player games as well too. What multiplayer games?

(26:53):
What I said, multi player games?

Speaker 5 (26:56):
What?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Oh yeah, all right, let's get to the next one.
We're gonna get in it. We're gonna get quick, and
we're gonna make This is what I like about these episodes.
Sometimes when you get into the earlier the gaming years
VGM years, some of the songs. Loops aren't really long.
You can get through an episode, have fun, go enjoy
tube of coffees, and get ready to bring into New

(27:19):
Year's because this is being recorded on New Year's Eve,
twenty twenty five. So let's, without further ado, let's get
to the quick Man song.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Alright, alright, alright.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Alright, definitely another board that was just a pain in
people's sides. Man. They just couldn't get out of that board.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
But what you got about this far into the game,
you had most of the weapons, you're beat most of
the people, and you're ready to get into practically the
end stage of the game. And so the end stage
of the game. Before you did that, of course you
wanted to grab a couple more weapons, one of those
weapons being the crash bomb, because of course, like I
talked about earlier, the crash bomb was of course essential
in beating one of the bosses in Doctor Wiley's Fortress.

(29:23):
So that being said, one of the funniest things about
this game is too and before we get to end,
to get out a little bit, because I really only
have I do. I'm doing my twelve songs. I'm getting eight.
You never know if there's gonna be a Baker's dozen,
But the twelve songs that I'm doing, I did definitely
want to make sure that everything was covered within that

(29:44):
time and that we could actually get to these points.
So without further ado, let's get the crash Man's song
dig It oooh yeah, the the.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Them man Man, that's all just get you going.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Man. It just just takes it right off from the
gon do do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do
Do Do Do Do down and it just gets to
that little hook and then and it's crazy because it
loops and then it comes through and plays that last
part at the end where it's like, dude, right right, okay, say,

(32:22):
like you know, I have a raspfore so I can't
hit some some of those hagh notes. I'm not a
hagh no kind of dude, but I'm a kind of
dude like this, I feel I get a little wicked.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
So that being said, we got, we got, we got
two more songs left. Now. I want to say thank
you to everybody that has inspired me to do all
of these. This is the usual bunch. This is the Messenger,
This is Professor Tom, this is Martyrus, and a few
of these guys have already done their VGM episodes and

(33:00):
that's what Professor's tom. He did about four of them,
so then I was like, man, I want to do four,
but then that was around two hours. So then I
was like, all right, well, let's kick it back at
some more songs and do each of this as like
an individual submission. And then of course, you know, we
got Brian, we got Bedroth. I talk with them a lot,
so I always blow up their messages and every once

(33:21):
in a while, auto correct all we gets always gets
them and he goes and they it's it's definitely an
inside joke at this point. So and they figured out
this week they didn't know what a Boston store was.
It was kind of funny. They were like, is that
like a mall?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
But it was.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
It actually was a mall back in the day, and
that's where I work now, but it's an apartment complex.
So that being said, that's where video games brings everybody together.
And there's more people that I could talk about, you know,
Kung Fu Foo, Carlito. You know, we just Messenger just
did the Secret Santa episode, so we had just punk.

(33:57):
I just did it. I just I've done him in
the past. You know, and there's just so many different
people that we can be aligning ourselves with that that
share the same kind of love and passions. And that's
what actually created some problems for this next song. So
if you ever do a little bit of research and

(34:17):
while I pull up some things, you know, I don't
want to forget Utopia Nemo. I'm gonna give you a
little bit Jungle Toad. You know, they're all daily in
there in in the Messengers VGM Journey, so of course
check everybody's podcast out VGM Journey, REVGM, and then the
Shoujin Academy, of course BG Mania and you got you

(34:40):
got Rhythm and pickle Pixels. There's just so much. But
the thing is is when I'm going to when I'm
doing all this, and I don't want to forget anybody,
but so I'm just I'm just screwing before we go along, right.
But I would never have met any of these guys.
And it's funny because normally you wouldn't run across somebody

(35:02):
locally that would do that. And the fact that the
Messenger has been on Bring the Pain multiple times and
I've gone on the VGM Journey with him, that is
actually something that is very very It means a lot
to me. So doing all these setting up the secret
Sannah where we give the VGM song to each other

(35:25):
is why I wanted to make this episode happen. Why
the VGM Hall of Fame is huge and everybody has
their own tip. There's no right or wrong answer because
most times you're gonna agree on all of these entries
that make this and that is led off by this
next song that was banned because of it of the

(35:46):
addictive nature of the song. And you know what I'm
talking about. It's Wiley Stage one for to Stage one.
Of course, a lot of people call it Electric Rabbit.
And I feel featured this on on my podcast before
I'm Bring the Pain on many different Bring the Music
episodes because normally I do a bring the Music tag

(36:09):
when I do my musical episodes. So for that, I
really really really want to say for everybody that's stuck
through and for everybody that has inspired me and inspires
everybody else, to keep this community going, the VGM community going,
and just to pick gaming to the next level, not
just literally taking it to E level, Let's take it
to other levels musically, visually, story wise. These are all

(36:33):
the things that make great music. Then that's why I
said the perfect RPG had Martyrusan and martyrskills. You need
to turn this into a series. You need to talk
to all the guys just to punk. He'll be next,
you know, Professor Tom, He'll be next. I definitely want
to get him on. I want to get all of
them on, even Bedroth, because I think Stuka pal loves
RPGs and everybody has a favorite, favorite one. There's persona people,

(36:55):
there's these different people proto treat other people, people that
like just Zelda's world of Warcraft, and I just want
to hear everybody's story and why it's so unique for them.
So that's gonna be really fun things coming forward, going
into the future, with so many different episodes in different
ways that bring the pain can branch itself out, because
I just like I've always said, I don't want to

(37:15):
just be a one pony. I want to make sure
that I dab in everything. You come to this one
source and that every once in a while you get
a bunch of sports, but then you get these gem
episodes like this, and nothing was more of a gem.
This is one of the most exciting VGM songs ever
recorded in history. I loved it. This right here, this

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song Wiley Stage one Electric Rabbit is why I fell
in love with music. I had a system cranked up
with this song going, and it was like I felt
bad for my parents. I felt bad for my brother
and sister, but they was about to hear this.

Speaker 9 (37:57):
Woo yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
At at at eet.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
No no no, no, no, no no, don't don't take
that song away from me. Don't take that song away
from me.

Speaker 7 (39:34):
We need that song.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
We simply need that song. And the fact that we
need that song only proves why the inspiration of other
people influenced us in our everyday lives. This is what
Martyrs does to a lot of us. And for that,
I've always played a metal version, but I have never

(39:59):
played in electronic version. This is almost seven minutes long,
and then will end the episode. Right after that, I
want to say, I want to give credit.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
To Alan Zach.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
This is the Alan Zach remix, Zach's remix so A
L L A and z A X. Go look him
up on YouTube and make sure that you give him
credit for the song. Only one thousand, nine hundred people
have liked this song. This song starts out nice and smooth,

(40:34):
brings a melodic tempo to it before it drops everything
that we love about gaming, but we love about music
and what connects us all together.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
And of the Protestant.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Districts textette.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
Tettritttttttttttistat okay.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
So I will say this is what I love doing
these four and why I love all these different things
and different music in different songs. And I didn't listen
to that. I listened to only the beginning, and I

(48:00):
decided that I was going to experience this song with
all of you, and so for that, I hope that
all of you enjoyed that song the way I did,
giving Electric Rabbit, giving Wiley stage Fourtress one, whatever you
want to call it, stage one, Fortress one, giving it
the true godlike status, and why the Mega Man two

(48:25):
soundtrack deserves to be in the VGM Hall of Fame.
There's just nothing better to it. Man, I can't say
more than enough. Oh oh you're too kind, You're too kind,
You're too kind? Ooh yeah, I mean that must be

(48:46):
the doorbell. I don't know what kind of doorbell is
going on around here, but I think wait.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
Ooh yeah, the macho man Randy say just here because
it's time for the being he Am Override year. I
thought that I would get a little saucy, get a
little spicy. Look here, I'll not like the cream all
the time. I like to blow to the top of
the spice. Ooh year, my boy, heat Override's gonna get

(49:17):
you down memory lay. He's gonna take you into differents in.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
There one year.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
He's gonna get you excited for the next episode.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Next episode. That's right, we're talking about the next episode
of the of VGM for he Overwide will in fact
be this song, will be this game because I haven't
of a revolution of how I'm going to run through

(49:48):
all of my VGM ballots into the Hall of Fame,
and they do go in chronological order up to a
certain point. So I hope that all of you are
ready for that. Again, I want to say thank you
for everybody, Thank you for staying on, thank you for
supporting bring the pain. Make sure you get over to

(50:08):
doctor roto use codword win join. If not, you're not
into sports, then check out my YouTube. Check out my twitch.
I'm doing a lot of gaming on there right now.
Just started Marvel Rivals, so I'm gonna have a lot
of fun with that. I'm a TVB kind of dude. Yeah,
you know, pit the hit got to be the best,
to be the best, uh huh yeah right. And at
the same time, I want to continue to provide all

(50:29):
of you with the great music that all of you deserve,
the inspiration that all of you have given me, the
healing you have done, the VGM healing that went with
the Tommy episode, and being able to connect with my mother,
my friends and all that stuff. Everybody even alive. Just
to do what we do is that and so for that,

(50:51):
I thank you that enjoyed this last song, and for that,
always remember to bring the pad. This last song was
by war Machine Studios. It's Macabade coming off. It's the
Forest of Monsters, and it is from super Castle. Janey.

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