The Ace from Space | An Ace Frehley Tribute - Bring The Pain

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yo, everybody, it's all alive, So let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
What's up everybody?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
This is He'd Override and I'm ready to bring the
pain for you this week. Oh yeah, as you can see,
I am not flying solo on.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
This tribute to Ace Frehley. Mez. How you doing today,
my brother?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
What's up my dude? Long time? Yeah, it's been a
I don't know what was that. When was the last
time I talked to you? A year ago?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
We did? Yeah, yeah, it's been about it here, I
know we did yours.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Yeah, bring the pan It was probably outside of that,
and then yeah, the one prior to that as well, too.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Right, right, that's right?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, Oh man, Its just it's just it's great that,
you know, we were just talking before we went live,
and a few things we'll get into later about how,
of course Pod of Thunder brings people together outside of myself.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
The discussion we'll have with you and Chris.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Jericho aka Touch earlier, so we'll talk about that. But man,
we're talking about this episode is the eighth from space.
We're talking about Paul Daniel Freley, the Spaceman. He was
born April twenty seventh, nineteen fifty one. And unfortunately passed
away October sixteenth, twenty twenty five. That wasn't that wasn't

(01:38):
a very very very very very sad day. That was
a very mournful day. That was an icon that has
put forth not only his soul, not only his life,
whether it had been ups and downs, through the good
the bad, in the end, he was exactly what everybody
loved about rock and roll music.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
How did you feel about them? Man? Oh my god?

Speaker 4 (02:03):
Where do I start?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Right? Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Man? I remember the first kiss song I ever heard
was Psycho Circus. It was in my dad's I don't know,
you had this shitty old intrepid, white intrumpid and I
put the Psycho Circus c D in and I I
still can remember the solo aces solos. Would you know

(02:29):
that was? I was like, that's pretty cool. I want
to do that. And you know, that's the whole reason
I started playing guitar and sent ever since then, it's
just taken off. Obviously. I don't know if you can
see all the kiss stuff, but yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
We see the We seen the guitar, We've seen everything.
But not only musically. You were able to release a
song yourself that you would work with with a lot
of people to actually put something on tape, and Ace
was a huge part of that inspiration.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Tell us about that journey.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. The Ace tribute song we did, Yeah, yeah,
I did that with Nick Jones. Bought it thunder and uh,
you know the day uh when Ace passed, I texted Nick.
I said, we gotta do something right because me and
Nick have We did coming Home Kiss song. We covered

(03:30):
that and he helped. He played drums on one of
my original tunes that I did with my uncle. My
uncle was on bass. Nick did the drums on it.
So I said, we gotta we gotta do another one, right,
we gotta do one for Ace. And he said, well,
why don't you do What's on your mind? From his
seventy eight solo album. He said, I could really hear

(03:53):
you singing that one, and I said, let's do it.
So I did the I did the guitar on it.
I did the bass. Uh, Nick did the drums, and
Nick did the guitar solo on there. And I could
not get the guitar solo. I texted, I said, why

(04:15):
don't you give it a shot, And he nailed the
entire thing. He sent it back to me and I
was blown away.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
I mean he nailed it note for note and then
I added some little piano in there and we put
it out because you know, Nick's a huge Jays fan. Two. Yeah,
we said we got to do something, so.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
So talking about that and you know us be both
being kissed fans at the same time. A lot of
early bands that Ace was in from Outrage four, Roses,
King Kong Honey, which was a cover band practically what
you were just talking about, of course, Kiss the Magic
people let me it was Molemo, which actually signed with

(05:06):
r c A Records. Fans, how much how much of
his earlier material have you absorbed.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Over the year time that that last one you said,
I could never say. Yeah, they I think that that's
the one he did. They had a semi semi hit
with a what was it called Cherokee Boogie. I think
it was.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Checked that here, so as as as we checked that,
you know, everything outside of the kiss areas and everything.
You know, For me, what it what attracted me to
when I chose Spaceman as my second kiss costume, because
of course me and my daughter win his g and

(05:53):
then she did Star child and I did a And
so what got me is when I went to the
I went to the Goodwill store and they had these
big shoes, so clearly.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
It was someone that needed.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
That extra step, that extra high, but they actually matched.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
So I was like, what the heck? These look like
space shoes.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So I spray painted those bad boys silver, and boy
did I have.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Some space juice.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Also, I was over six foot for the first time
in my life.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
That must be nice. I have no idea what that's even.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
If you wore these for these boots, you would you would.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
You might have.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
You're gonna be up there and be like, whoa.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Exactly this is what it's like up here.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, it's just it's just one of those moments, man,
pretty much, so exciting, and then you get slapped back
to reality. It kind of like Larry was in the
courtroom on The Three Stooges when one slapped him after
he was screaming in that in the Courtroom Chaos episode, Yeah,
I think I nailed the episode name too.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
I think it's cor Room Chaos. Yeah, don't fact check me, people.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's a great show too. Don't get me started on that.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Oh man, there's so many things in life that bring
people together.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And I think that's what a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Losing themselves in this day and and following the news,
and they forget how to detach themselves and remember what
the great thing about social media is, which is not
causing debates, but is actually finding the music that can
bring us together so that we can love instead of hate.
And so for me, that's again goes back to all

(07:39):
of the links that we've had with that. Talk a
little bit about that, Talk about some links that you've
made through the years that you may have never thought.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
I mean we've talked before on a podcast, but just
things that popped.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Ahead now, well, the obvious ones, pot of thunder. Yes, yes, no,
I can't less people through their you know. And when
we got our fantasy football league.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
With that, yep, yep, uh they were in the second.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
You're in it too.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I haven't.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I lost, I lost, I.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Know, I I advanced. Let me see, Oh, let's see
what we got here.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I got, I got, I got. I didn't even make
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
It was like every time my team would take two
step forwards, it would take a step back.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
That was my other league.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Oh it was just such a brutal, brutal year for
many people in fantasy football.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
It just but to have this act.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
It was a really weird year. Yeah, my one team
went My one team went like a seven game win
streak and then they lost the rest of the games.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's like, yeah, and it was injury.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
So that's what got me eliminated in the SCOFF. So
I started out at like James Connor go down for
the year. All these players go down for the year, right,
but not bad. I still had like Justin Jefferson, but
he wasn't the best. That was my first overall pick.
But it finally got to it. I was in the
final two. I was headed towards the final two rounds,
which I would have got in, but I missed it
by four points.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
And what happened. I had to watch Kristen Watson injury.
That was the Mahomes injury.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
That's what got me unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, yeah, there's nothing you can do when you just
don't have that. So you and then you see I'm like,
maybe I'm okay, I did enough, But I know it
was that I knew, I knew, I knew I'd be
safe with a Round three hundred, I got two eighty eight,
missed it by four points. It's what happens, you know.
It was like what I covered from it just didn't

(09:47):
work in the end.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I got it. I hit that. That's bad time in.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Them, yep. Every year. Well I'm right now, I'm going
up against I'm the number five going up against the
number two in our league.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
So okay, okay, what did did you guys? Have any
players play yet? I mean, of course I can check
this out, but you already.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Got it right there.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
I had Barkley. Oh, Barkley's playing right now?

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, hell isn't it.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Why is there a game right now?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
There's definitely there's definitely a game right now.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
And then I got ten points from your rams running back.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
So oh man oh man, yeah, Kyrad Williams.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, that's that's tight.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
That is that's not right there. That's that's a killer man.
It's like, come on, man, like, what are you gonna
get that many points for? That's just kind of like
the craziest thing that just can kind of even happen.
But hey, that's what happened with like look at look
at Lamar Jackson. For like the past four weeks five
weeks he hasn't hit double digits.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
You just never know. It trives me nuts. I every
year I tell myself, I'm this, I'm only doing one
or two Lee exists here, I'm in sixth league.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
So yeah, that was me, and I was good for
the last couple of years and then got okay on it.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
I'm gonna drop back down.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, yeah, because it's it's for me.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
It's like I get a lot of questions right before
game lack kind of like what happened last week when
we just couldn't leak up and it was like that,
and it was just like once I locked in, it
was just I was I.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Was the only one there.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
So it was just crazy how it was just kind
of worked it out and stuff. So, you know, we
could go through all the different albums, you know, Kiss
nineteen seventy four, Hotter and Hell, Dressed to Kill, of course,
Destroyer Ace Frele nineteen seventy eighth, Brallies Comment in nineteen
eighty seven, and of course his latest release of ten
thousand Volts.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
You loved that album when I do, I did.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Tell us a little bit about that album and not
only what it meant to you, but how much. You
actually like how it rejuvenated your life.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
It did.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
I remember when that came out, the first single, and
it just I know he was working with that guy
from Trickster, Steve Brown, which was the which he hadn't
really brought in a whole lot of outsiders from the
on the previous albums, I don't think, well, not the

(12:18):
cover albums he did, but not the original. But I
just remember the first single. It sounded different, it sounded fresh,
it sounded you know, it just grabbed me. And that
whole album, I gotta put it up there seventy eight,

(12:38):
number one, Frayley's comments number two. I would put it
at three or four, that whole album, and then you
got songs like back in My Arms Again, which was
from nineteen eighty five. It was a demo that he

(12:59):
never put out. You know, me and Nick talk about that.
We talk about how the the old demo had keyboards
in it, and the one he put on the new
album he left the keyboards out, which kind of was
a bummer, but it was still cool to hear hear
in an official release, Yeah, I did. I actually covered

(13:22):
it just by myself. I did a guitar bass and
I put some keyboards back and I sent it to Nick.
I said, what do you think of that? He said, Oh,
my god, the key the keyboards are back.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
That's awesome. But that's good. What's great?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You know, you yourself being a self you know, self
taught musician pretty much also learning from other people and
things like that. You know, that's that's great that you're
able to re add something that you loved from the original.
It's almost like, you know, Paul Stanley Time Traveler and
how how that song is so wrong and how it
never really got a chance to actually go, but how

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was so amazing.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Don't get me started on that one that should have
been that should have been a hit.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah, that song.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
And his voice, it just it reached new heights of
what's the word that I didn't even know he could
hit that high and that.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Was his peak.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Yeah, I just I don't understand how that gets left off.
But then you get a song like Bang Bang You
or When Your Walls Come Down, but that gets left off.
It's just.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
It is, it's it's it's wild dude, DoD doude do
do dude like so okay, so when he goes Time
travel left.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
When I look at you.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Oh my god, Rob, you can hit that.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, I'm more of a like a hitty middle galue
monchio man.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Who yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah,
I need raspy.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I'm a raspy guy kind of guy. I do you
like a type O negative kind of dude?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Like, yeah, I saw they did a type mony Man,
I'm actually behind on that. But man, before we get
more into the pond thunder and get on that track,
because that that'll happen the song, tell.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Me about it from your angle a little more. Time Traveler, Yes, yes, yes,
yeah that was so.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I know he brought that in in nineteen eighty eight,
eighty nine, No I'll go, I'll go, I'll say eighty eight,
and he brought that in. He was before he was
gearing up to do a solo tour you know with

(15:56):
Eric Singer, Pop q Lok and Gary Corbett and uh,
he was writing songs, you know, with consideration for the
next Kiss album, but he was also writing it for
other people like you know, hide your Heart yep. Like
a thousand people have covered that song, including Ace Frehley.

(16:21):
Mm hmm, so he was. I think the Time Travelers
song was part of that tape that he was shopping around.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, I just hit it up. Yeah, it was part
of the It was a two thousand and one box set.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, but it was nice at eighty nine. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
And I think it's a drum machine on there. I
don't think I could be wrong. I don't know if
someone's actually drumming on it.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
You know, it's one of those things where you know
there's so much there's so much mystery to it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
That's the way I kept so entralled, Like of.

Speaker 4 (17:00):
Course one if day one with their faces and everything.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, and and and then through one of your favorite albums,
Creatures of.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
The Night, you know, number one.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Number one, number one, and it just because it provided
such a dark side, like and people weren't used to that.
So Kiss was like, you're gonna call us Satan, You're
gonna call us all this. You're not gonna let your
children listen to us. So guess what now we're Creatures
of the Night.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
There's not one bad song on that album. And I
think if they would have went from Unmasked to Creatures,
Ace would have stayed in the band.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
We wouldn't have the elder. I don't hate the Elder.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
But the Elder, there's just so much like, Okay, so
there's like a Bobby Brown country album, right, so like
sometimes they just what does that happening? And Thatobby Brown
is trying to sing country music exactly. I just Bobby,
just go back to singing the way you was singing.

(18:07):
You don't have to dance with the new Jack swing.
We know you can't dance that anymore.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Just just just give us that.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
Don't try to be somebody or try to move your
career at this stage.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
But that was kind of like the Elder was kind
of just like whoop, but then you know, go on.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
That's kind of the thing I always tell people about Kiss.
They kind of they've dabbled in a little bit of everything.
I mean, you got you know. I hate saying it
because I don't think it's really a disco song. You
got I was made for Loving You, which everybody says
is the disco song. It's not disco. Dirty Living is
more disco than I was Made for Loving You. But

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you got that, you got the Elder, you got carnival
souls where you have your grunge kiss.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, you could even say all Hell's breaking loose the
rap in the beginning, you get your wrap right there,
that's all. You know, they have a little bit of
everything in and then you got Paul Stanley putting out
cover album of all the old R and B tunes.
That's the great thing about Kiss. They just they're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Yeah, And you know that's the sign of a great musician, Yeah, producer, musical,
cruise user and things like that, is they just they
don't stay stagnant in one thing.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
So that's been so I know, I.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Don't know how many of my posts come through because
I know that I put up a lot of football posts.
But as you know, Simon Shackleton Elite Force, he's been
releasing a lot of albums and I followed him since
the Lunatic Calm days, so he had some unreleased albums
that he did from back then, and so the first
one came out was more Lunatic than Calm than he did,

(19:54):
more Calm than Lunatic, and that one just released last Friday,
and between that he gave us another Elite four song
where it's called Burning and it's just straight fire yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
And then Rape.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
So like he began this year with was The shadow
Maker and so a lot of nine inch nails.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Trent Reznor kind of boxed it. Yeah, yeah with you man,
because there's.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
But anyway going with that, seeing that that's what keeps
him busy. That's what he talks talk about that and
through some of the evolution that you felt when you
listened to ten Thousand Volts.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
Yeah, well, I mean the like, yeah, so when I
first heard that album, I was at work, and uh,
like I said, there's just something different about that album.
It was fun, it was energetic. It felt like Ace

(20:56):
was out to prove something more. So yeah, or he
found this newfound energy. That's just the way I took it.
And you know, there's a song on there that I
really love that I played for my little cousins and

(21:19):
they're like, oh my god, this is such fun song.
It's Cherry Medicine. Yeah, And you know I was like, well,
that's what he was going for. You know that he
was trying to branch out and do something a little different,
a little poppy, you know and fun.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
So I think this being his last album, yeah, isn't
that crazy? It was almost like like what you just said,
the cherry on top just so beautiful of like how
he evolved that music. And of course I'm gonna make
the assumption, and I could be wrong, but I think

(22:00):
I'm right. Ace is your favorite of the four of Well,
even if the reiterations, I assume he's your favorite kiss member.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
What absolute you.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Above the other diyes? What attracted you to Ace the most?

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Well? I think, how do I say it? I you know,
I'm the first time I ever saw Ace. It was
my dad's old VHS tape. It was I still remember
the cover. It was called the Garden Party. It was
nineteen seventy seven Madison Square Garden, sold out show, and

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I remember I remember Ace, you know, just walking around,
stumbling on stage, and he had that swagger, that cool
about him, that you know that I don't give a
fuck kind of attitude, you know, yeah, yeah, And that's
what just threw me in. And you know, he was

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always the partier. And I've had my party days.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
We all have, you know, people hating on not having
party days.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Come on, man, everybody got.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
We all got skeletons, and you know what it's about
how we own them, how we move on from them.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
That does that, and that's what he did.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
But you know, he wasn't a bitch about it, like
freaking Peter, you know he was.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
He wasn't a bit about it. He always manned and
owned it.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, Peter Christ Like where Peter put the little tear
drop on his makeup.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
He was sad.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
No disrespect to Peter though, I mean, great musician in
its own self. But come on, man, you're falling apart
and everybody wants to blame Ace Aces. Ace isn't doing this, man,
He's just trying to have a good time because he
can handle it.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
And what I loved about him he was always the party,
you know. He was always cool, laid yep. I made
some kick ass solos. I mean, Cole Jen's gotta be
one of my That was the first song I ever
learned to play on guitar was Cold Chin because of

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Ace there it is. I was like, I don't know,
seven six or seven, I wanted to be like Ace.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
So that's that's what makes music and everything that we
talk about. Even this shirt it says feel my energy.
This is actually later. It's a friend of DJ Magic Mike's.
His name is he goes By. He has his club
called Club Unity. His name is DJ Hype. He goes
live and he does everything kind of like with that,

(24:41):
but it's all about music. I would never have met
Jay if it wasn't for Mike. I would never have
met Mike if it wasn't for his music. And that's
how we all make these connections, and that's how we
we we kind of live our lives, you know, just
recently Mike and I know, I know my buddy Dave
had something to do with it, but Mike plays it
down through the years, and it was one of his

(25:03):
songs that have always really kind of hit me because
at first it has this like New York Times daily
news kind of feel to it, and he explains that,
and he kind of explains, like kind of what is
going life in it? You could make those relationships that
when you feel alone like that. He explains that for
me alone and nobody being there for you, and how
that you know, when time comes to shine, you look

(25:25):
at your crew and all you see is their asses
in their elbows.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's the exact one of those words.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And so for me, that's where music sometimes true.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Absolutely, That's what I always say. It's always there. It's
it's the one nothing else says, you know. M That's
the best part about it.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I remember your Facebook post when ten thousand Volts came
out and I was pumped. Yeah, and I'm not gonna
go because we've been talking about it for a minute,
but it's like all right, But I just thought it
was just like whatever, like I freaking love this game,
move this, this album, this album talks to me, this
album is me.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Whatever it was, it probably was all of those. You
were so excited.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
So the fact that like when you can get that
from somebody, that's that's practically what the shadow Maker from
Simon kind of did because he had released all these
other songs along the way, but and remixes that are
just amazing. But then it was like this shadow Maker's
album just way deep and dark, and then he remixed
that twice.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So it's just really what music does.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
So you've met Ace multiple times, you know, you've got
to have somewhat of a relationship with these talk to
us about some of those meetings.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
I met Ace twice. Okay, I saw him, saw him
and Eerie Eerie will Expare. I made a seven hour,
no six six hour drive to will Expaire to go
see him. That's when I got to meet him. Because
it covers album Origins, Volume one came out and if

(27:07):
you bought a CD, every CD you bought, you would
get it, you know, you could have him signed something
else and the CD. I bought like seven CDs that day.
And then you know, the concert was later that night,
and then I drove back, tried to. That was a

(27:27):
long car ride back. Man, I was exhausted. But I
just met Ace in a record store for free. So
that was the first time meeting them. And then I
saw him and this place called Jurgles so Warrendale, I think, yeah, yeah,

(27:52):
I saw him there twice front Row. I saw him
in House of Blues in Cleveland a couple of times too.
Every single time, great show. He was always nice. He
you know, sometimes he seemed a little more tired than others,

(28:15):
but I get it. Yeah, And it's crazy that I'll
never see him play again. You know, he would still
do the smoking guitar. He would still do that during
his guitar solo. That was mind blowing every time, the

(28:35):
guitar that would light up their New York groove. So
he kept a lot of those things in his solo shows.
And I remember I almost caught a pick. I almost
had to fight a guy for a guitar pick. I
have a video of him looking at me. I was

(28:56):
filming him and he throws it up and it goes
right back, asked me, and even on the video because
I threw my phone down, try to catch try to
get the pick on the ground. This guy's like, hey,
come on, man, come on, give me the you know.
So yeah, it's like I'm not trying to get kicked
out of frigging jurles. Take the pick. Whatever.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's It's tough those situations. It
was like, you know, I I talked to you and
I told you about when Rob Zombie came out to
my chair and stood on it and kind of held
out his hand and I got to hold him up
there for a minute and his bodyguards right behind.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Me, so I no, no, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
And there's at one point while I'm filming him, I
just had to check his jeans out, man, because he
had some hot ass jeans on. And I'm just like,
I couldn't help it, man, I just whatever, dude.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Like, but I was like, I touched rub Zombie.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
Zombie crazy.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
It's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
But like I look at you, You're just all happy
and weird now and I'm like, no, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
This is what it's like to be a real fan.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
This is yeah, the way when I left that Kiss
concert at Darien Lake, the last time I seen Kiss,
and and you talk about physical exhaustation for like that
that you said that long drive home, the drive back
plus out of there was at least it was a
forty five minute drive.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
It was like two hours.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
And I'm getting out of a Kiss concert is just it.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Was just horrible. We were like the first one there,
so we were in the back.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
Dude, it's.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
That's a long night, it is.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
And then we drove.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
Back and I remember we were gonna We went outside
like the wipes like all right, let me go smoke
a cigarette.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
We all grabbed a beer and we sat down and
I'm like, I'm done. I'm done.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Is that when they were with def Leppard.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Not they had the painter with them, Oh, the paint guy,
peinter guy.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
No comment, David Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know the
no comment on that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
He's so yeah, we it was.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
It was.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It was a great concert. This you know, I told you.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
I definitely mentioned to you, like getting that the ticket
up grade and.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Being able to only ten feet.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
From Paul Stanley just really shows that when you're in
a great area. I mean, I've done this with hard Will,
I've done that. And when I when Bobby Brown. I
went and seen Bobby Brown in Niagara Falls.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
I was screaming like a little girl. Man.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
I was like, Bobby, So, there's just something that you know,
that's just it.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's a rush that you love, love to have. And
I'm gonna say this too.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
I didn't know Landon Brown was with him, and he
brought land and Brown out and I screamed.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I was like land.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Brah, it's like you know, it's like his it's like
his oldest.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Of sons and everything.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah and so and he had like a little small
recording career at first.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
And he came out and sang one of his songs.
I was just gone. But that rate there that it will,
it's hard to replace it.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
It's like a wrestling event and being front row or
just being down the hole.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
You can't know where they come out.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, no, I get it. I get it.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Tell us about some of your fun times in the crowds,
like either at a Kiss concert or maybe a wrestling event.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Oh man, Well, there's one that comes to mind. I've
been front row at I've been fortunate to be front
row at a couple of Kiss concerts. The one in
Eerie was the best with my dad and my uncle. Yep,
just because it was eerie, it was the venue was great,

(32:45):
the you know, we got to meet him before the show.
That one will probably go it's my number one. Oh yeah,
you know. I saw Springfield and Niagara Falls. He's got
a song called human Touch that was about a throw

(33:07):
I think, and he comes out into the crowd for
human Touch. So that that was another kind of crazy
concert moment. Rick Springfield walked right on my chair, right
past me.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
You know, didn do that one.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
M No, I don't think they've done a Rick one.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I feel like they If they haven't, that's that's something
we might have to bring up.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I'm waiting for them to do.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I'm gonna have to check that out because if they've
done it, I have not heard it.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I need to hear. There's so many episodes.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah, they're up to like what six hundred, seven hundred.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's well they're past six hundred.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, they're definitely past six hunder it. I'm gonna have
to look into that.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
My birthday's right around the quarner. I might have to
put a request. And if if they haven't a done
of ricks for Field yet, oh.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh that's that, that would be cool. That would be cool,
you know, all right?

Speaker 3 (34:07):
So without because of course people would would are gonna
listen to us, the pot Thunder, the pot Nation's gonna.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Listen to it.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, I don't want you if this would happen, I
don't want you to reveal the song it would happen,
or song it would be.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But could we say what three songs.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Or what five songs that that one song could be
a group of that would give people that you would
do from Rick.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Springfield, I would do. I'll give you three Rick Springfield
and three other songs that I ever said if I
was ever on potdet Thunder, these are the ones I
would bring.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Okay, Okay, let's do it. Let's let's have let's make
a section. I like this right now, let's go.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
All right, it's a Rick Springfield would be. There's a
song called It's Always Something mm hm, it's off his
nineteen ninety nine album. I would do that, Okay, I
would do I gotta put one hit in there, maybe

(35:15):
Souls Okay, that's a great song, or I mean obviously
Jesse's Girl, But I mean I fucking heard that song
to death.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
I mean it feels like that that you could probably
let that wing go by and one of the guys
will get maddered or yeah, Duge.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Will come on and be like what was best think
and he's try to get this song. We always know
that it.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
Should be jes Like everybody be like, oh it's Rick Springfield,
it's not Jesse's Girl.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Oh my god, exactly that right.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
There so much better stuff, better stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
And the third would probably I'll go something newer.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Exit Wound. That's a good song.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Mm hm, that's definitely like you know, those are just
just the whole thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
There's so many different songs and a lot of songs.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Again if you're into deep cuts and a lot of
people growing up me myself, I fell into this as well.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
I was a singles dude, So unless another.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Song was on theremes, I just didn't have the money
to go buy a whole new album, even though it
was fifteen bucks.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I get this song, get a MAXI single.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Maybe four ninety nine three ninety nine, get three or
four songs of the nine or ten on the songs,
and that that would.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Just be the three songs I observe. Yeah, I would
just do that.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
So what other three songs just off the top and
those three, these three songs, people can change. And the
songs that I'm gonna bring out are good change at
any time.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
You got your three, I got.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Well for for I mean Springfield. I wouldn't say that
I'm that deep with Springfield.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
No, No, I meant three in general. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
I won't do that.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I got my three.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
No, I got my I got my three.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
You you go with yours. I'm thinking of a third,
all right.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So if I definitely did one one definitely, if it
was during the month of February, it would be Bobby
Brown good enough. But if it wasn't, okay, I mean
take both yo lips and red of in those stuffs,
taste your wand.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
September.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
See, I don't know which one's it better, but because
it's it's so soul. And then the way you know
Bobby got in trouble with Whitney because he was all
over that girl in that video too. That for me, right,
there is one of those things that kind of defends
what's going on in life.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
So that's one I wanted.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
So with the Willie d stuff, I just want everybody
to just witness a true Spice one song. So that
song would probably be dumping him in ditches because after that,
I think everybody would probably go to the church.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Even if they don't go to the.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
Church, then start going to the church.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
They're gonna start going to church.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
And I mean there's a couple of Spice ones, you know, revenge,
you know, like they when they say one liner is
that if anybody could say or whatnot. There's a lot
of one liners from Spice when they're just crazy. But
if if that song was too brutal, I would have
other ones like I could probably do, like I could
do one eighty seven proof where he uses all of

(38:33):
the alcohols to tell a story, which is what separated him.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah, you know, so, I.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Mean, just to give you the beginning, cool it on
the corner with the cell your phone, you could tell
that the East Bay was his home, more male than
the rest of the bushes because he got a nine
in the bushes and that's how the ship was handle.
First name Jack last name. Daniels had two boys named
ian J. He had nine and j k K clocked
on a street named Henness C. That's how the story starts.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
It's it's it's just kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
But if it was, if it was, if it was
so for me, I want a white Zombie song on there.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
They did a rob Zombie song. They did the one that.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
They say, I was gonna say, yeah, yeah, yeah, thunder
sixty five.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
You would think, but it's Cosmic monster, dude, Cosmic Monsters.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Ink just gives me. It's like, why rob Zombie is
rob Zombie.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
You're like, wait a minute, check you will. But another
one from that is Black Shunshine.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
I think I've heard that one.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's the one where that starts out, goes
cool down the you know what it you know, it
starts out describing.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
The car, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Down the highway. You know, it's sixty nine.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Of course, hot sweat or what's black steel, black smoke.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But he says.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
That the whole album changed me because of that video game,
and we talked about that, but.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Like, yeah, it just like this the whole thing from
Planet Motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
To just you know, just the beginning where it was
just like, you know, you got to open graves to
find people to fall in love with. It just is
so different, so different, but cosmic Monsters Game.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
It's just one of.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Those those deep, deep cuts that I think display just
the wildness. It changes throughout the song and there's just
fucking thrash parts to it. Here's just I can hear.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
This part where he just takes everything out.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's just freaking It's just the guitars and then the
freaking the drums are like, oh god, dude, if you've
never heard that song, I know what I what I'm
talking about.

Speaker 4 (40:53):
When I got it, I got it. Cute up whoa
oh man?

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, those those definitely would be the three that would
get on all.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Right, all right, So what about I would have to
go with. There's a I'd see there's the Judas Priest
song Green Me and Alishi. I feel like they might
have done that already though I don't know, but anyway,

(41:27):
but that would be one. Think it over by Mammoth
both Game Van Hallen, it's a newer song. And then
I would love to hear what they would say about
Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons New Kids song Body Down,
because I've been playing that thing over and over, even

(41:49):
got the hat on right now their logo. I met
Evan in Vegas because aren't you the body down guy? Like, yeah,
I'm the one that always plays it. Just from social media,
he knew. He's like, yeah, I know you. You You're

(42:13):
the big body down guy, right. I'm like, yeah, that's
all shit. Maybe I'm maybe I'm posting it too much.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
You're like, it's just like I post it every time
I listen to it.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
But the thing is is, I think sometimes I'm guilty
of it. I've put like the same songs on my
on my Facebook or Max probably.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I'll say more so Facebook. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Time it's like whatever movement, I'll be sitting there, I'll
be like, oh, look, we got an as yet song
with Peter Satara. You know, even though I know Chris, dude,
I can't wait till like somebody like finally picks Peter
Satara and gives it all the Chris like, I don't
know which song would set him off more, the Glory

(42:57):
of Love.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Or after all.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I don't think we're ready for that type of visceration.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I mean, I could even I could hear him right now,
just just hear him.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Go stop.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
When he goes like a night from a long time
ago coming to save the day, he's gonna be like,
see now that's panderin one.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
He's saying that I'm gonna kill a dragon for you.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
We might not have a pot of thunder after that episode.
He might walk out.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
He would definitely not take that that episode to a
castle far away.

Speaker 4 (43:39):
No, that's getting left one.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, like a Howard habit to break. I could do
this ship all day with Peter Sara. Dude, Oh man.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
I didn't mind it. It was me and my wife's
he's saying me my wife's song. Well, actually no, we didn't.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
We were gonna go with your the inspiration that one
might get him.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
Yeah, we we went.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
After we went, we did not pick that, and we
chose will you still love me?

Speaker 2 (44:16):
And that was saying by the guy after he left.
I'm real sure. I'm real sure because it's not it's.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Not the same one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I
forget his name. I'm drawing blanks.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I want to say his last name is Johnson, but
do not hold me to it.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I at that, Yeah exactly. They'll let them handle that.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, like heys, hey, he what you got going on?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
I don't know, man, good but I don't know if
Bob has reproduced that one. Maybe Kyle Ezra did.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Dude. It's just one of those things. It's this great
coffee man, I got my tea. I love good coffees
and tea's man, you know that.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I mean, just me being a coffee guy just kind
of made me like a coffee prick.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
So it just it's now I'm just like, I gotta
have good coffee. Man. I hate it.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Must'll be man, you know, it just I just can't
take some of that stuff. So you talking about people,
we were talking about people you met, your your recent
trip to the Kiss Cruise.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
You get to run into Chris Jericho.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Talk to us a little about a little bit about
the time at the Kiss Cruise and running into.

Speaker 4 (45:30):
Tug Yeah, man, I mean, uh, that whole kiss thing
out there was it was like kiss World. We uh
got to the hotel and you know, the the whole
whole hotel was decorated and kissed stuff. The walls were
all kiss uh, the elevators were album covers, the you know,

(45:55):
they had Eric Singer's piano that he performed with Done
the last tour that was out. You know, Jean's snake
was you could see take pictures with that he did

(46:16):
and he did. You know, I ran into uh a
bunch of I ran in Ace's whole band. Uh, Ryan Cook,
Scott Coogan who played with that super group with Niki

(46:40):
and Tracy Guns. I forget their names.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Uh is it the older one?

Speaker 4 (46:46):
No? No, it was a spin off band was about
black black made black veiled maids or something like. I
don't know is that it. Yeah, he was the drummer
for them, but he was aces longtime drummer. I saw

(47:07):
him obviously. I met Evan Stanley Yea and then the
I think it was the second day they the Sporting
Acts did a free meet and greet and that's where
I met Jericho Tuge and uh I told him. I

(47:29):
was like, you know, I'm more of a fan of
you from Pott Thunder, Yeah, because I don't really watch wrestling,
so and he's like, oh my god, no way. And
I was like, you know, start talking about Pott a Thunder.
And we sent a picture to Chris Nicky or Chris
nick and Andy and he was yeah, I was impressed.

(47:52):
He was wearing a kiss exposed T shirt, little vintage throwback.
I was very impressed. I saw PJ. Farley, who's been
on the show too.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yeah, you had a lot of pictures.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Man, I was busy. I remember saying to my dad.
I was like, I'm ready to go home. My pocket's hurt,
my feet hurt, my back hurts, because I mean the
the first concert was out on the lawn and it
was first come, first serve, so I got I wanted

(48:26):
to get there, get front row. I was right up front,
but I was standing there waiting for I don't know
five hours. Yeah, fucking feet hurt.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Old.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Yeah, I remember your post when you came back. That
was part I'm getting old, but I went old.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
I can't do Vegas anymore.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
It's like it's like, you know, you get that point
where people have described me by saying, I'm like that
little rip chord toy when you were a kid.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
You pull the string right out and the next.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Thing, you know, that's exactly how I feel.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
So it was Black Veil Brides that way.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
There we go. Yeah, so yeah, well the first album
on his foot, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah, I've always liked the Butcher Baby stuff like that,
Like ye Earth has gotten a couple like I bounce
around from so many different Like.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
I just know that album where Richard Christie was the drummer.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
I just remember the album that I like from the
color of it.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
It was Blue and it was from back then in
the nineties or something, whatever it was.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
That might have been the one he was on, because
the one I like is Blue. They did a really
good cover of Creatures of the Night. I'll have to
send it to you.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
It is not that yes, send that to me. I've
love to hear that.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I have a this Kiss Instagram fan page, aces Kiss
Asylum and all uh. I put playlists together and one
of the ones I did was cover Uh you know
it was it Kiss. Did you remember the tribute album

(50:05):
they did back in ninety five Kiss My Ass? They
did a tribute album. Mm hmm, I said what. I
made a second follow up to that with like newer
bands and stuff like that, and the there's thirteen songs
on it. It's on my Instagram, uh A right profile.

(50:27):
And the one that kicks it off is ice Ars
Creatures of the Night, great, great fucking version. And you
got skid Row doing come On and Love Me, Anthrax
doing Parasite Struts doing Do You Love Me, Black Veiled
Brides doing Unholy.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
Yep, see now I remember, yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
I forgot I put them on there. Yeah, Robs White
Zombie doing Got It Thunder. It's a pretty cool playlist.
I got a lot of good feedback from it.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So that's awesome, you know. Yeah, that's again.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
It just shows who would have thought we would have
ended up like where we're at with Iced Earth Creatures
of the Day, and it was like we took a
left turn and everybody's going for that ride and then
we were like, oh look at Daisy whoa and that
thing flew into the next dimension.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I mean, that is great.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
It's because of what happens when we get together up.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Music is life, man, It's just it's it's we become it.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
There's so much to it. There's so much to love
about it. Yeah, and talk about that. That's it's just
been one of those great things man, that has been
able to bring everybody together. But that's amazing that you
got that time together. You got the thing because if
I would have ran into Jericho, uh uh, I would
have been like, next time you're on Pot of Thunder,

(51:50):
I need you to do Specter General Hunger from The
Transformers the movie soundtrack, because I know he loves Spector
General aka Kick Acts, and I know that Hunger is
for me.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Hunger.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
Now people forget that the Transformers the movie animated soundtrack
from eighty six. I think it was that, not the movie,
the actual sound Yeah. Yeah, that soundtrack is freaking rocking, dude.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I think I have that. I think I have it
in my library. I think I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Yeah, dude, so like nothing's gonna stop us now, and
all the yeah songs that's gonna stop us now.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
That's a great call me what you want. That's a
great song.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Yes, yes, he and then and then of course Hunger Hunger.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
I love the way that, you know, when they talk
about the cheesy eighty drums, I feel that these drums
felt a lot more real on.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
That actual album. Yeah, it wasn't just the cheesy eighty drums.
And that too.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Even the opening the Transformer of the movie, the actual
you know, the beginning, that was cool too.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah, I haven't seen that.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
I don't know how long I know it.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Me and my friends just you're gonna have me doing
homework tonight.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Rob, You're or just enjoy.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
You're gonna be enjoying some great tunes because you're gonna
be like, oh man, I want to get back to
that part. And then right when when the scene ends,
you're gonna stop the movie and you're gonna go listen
to the whole entire.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
Song and then I'm gonna forget about the movie. Yes, yes,
I'm just gonna keep going down the whole album. That's
not really how it goes.

Speaker 3 (53:32):
You're gonna be like, they're to be stupid. Hell yeah,
I could do. They got it one time. They gotta
do a weird owl a weird owls.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
They haven't, honestly.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
They talk about it a lot.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, I I don't know what. Maybe they're waiting for
April Full Stay or something. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
All that would be. That would be.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
That would link up pretty well.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
That would what do you what song do you would
you like them to see? Or what song do you
think of all of his songs would be the one
that would get chosen?

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Weird al Yes, what's what's the Star Wars? When he
did oh that was like my yeah, American Jedi or
something like that. Yeah, just because I know Chris would
be like the Star Wars ship is so fucking stupid. Yes,
you would hate it or or eat it? Eat it?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Oh eat it dude, or I'm fat.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Yeah, yeah one of those three.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Dude, those I you know, you couldn't even make it.
You could even make it because they use this quote
a lot with the churn and butter part for Amish Paradise.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Oh yeah, I forgot about that Hamish Paradise.

Speaker 2 (54:51):
That would have to on a video watch too, because.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
Me and my my grandpa loved Weird all growing up.
I all these are coming back, dude.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
The movie UHF was amazing when we when I, me
and my friends went and saw that in the theater,
that was just insanity. That it's best hrd it just
but yeah, that one day they gotta do that song
and I gotta say, it's it's gotta be one of
those songs, man, it's gotta be. I.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
I would put my money on eat it.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, I would do eat it.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I would do it, And that would be the perfect
episode that like like Nick would have to like find
one of the things that they were eating in that.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
I was just gonna say, he can play it right
in with that bit.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Yeah, like eat it.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
I think he does a split in that movie in
that video too.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Probably.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I can't even think, dude. Sometimes that's just the insanity
that just like it.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
That's I've been on them a little bit about this one,
and I've revealed it to a few people.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
But I want them to do a chunky a song.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I want them to do chunky a dipstick, but that
it's so you know, that's that's our Cineo hall and
so dipstick.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
The chorus is, let me check you oil with my dipstick.
Never heard that you do some new tricks. Well, there's
other songs on there like Stank Breath, Woe is Lazy,
so out there. Man. It was about to say at

(56:34):
that time when Party All the Time by Eddie Murphy
came out.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah, yeah, yep, and they did that, So you know,
that's actually where I'm at right now. I'm not, I think.
But the next song I do is Jason Derulo talk
Dirt to Me. I I cannot wait to get this
song because I've been jumping a little back and forth
because missing stuff, and.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
Dude, that's like one to put that on on the list.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
No, No, I didn't, I don't think I did, but
that's the next one on my.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Because I was behind.

Speaker 4 (57:07):
What you're saying.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I love that song. I love
dancing to it. I love getting dirty to it.

Speaker 3 (57:13):
I danced to it with I danced with my wife
in the kitchen to that song.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
I love that song. So I can't wait to actually
get that. But I don't think I I suggested it,
so I can't wait to hear it, though.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
I don't think I must. I'm a little behind too,
but I don't think I'm there yet.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I just did the Horny song by Vanilla Ice. That
song was trash, holy shit. I can't remember who stopped
and he was like, all right, this is already a
train wreck.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
That damn, I must be really behind. I well, I
was going back and listening to some of the old
kiss episodes.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
We all do that every Yeah, it just it just
takes us. Like I listened to a few of the
newer ones. It's just kind of like I've just been
back and forth a little bit.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
That's what I do all the time.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
It just it's it's why we Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I see typo negatives.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
And new one yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Taking care of Christmas, I did listen to that. That
was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Dude. I haven't got to that one yet, but I
know they've talked about.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
You got to get to it before Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Gotta get to it.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Yeah, it's a Christmas episode.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Right right, you get Yeah, I definitely will get there.
I gotta get to that one right there. I'll probably
hit it up this week. I only got two and
a half days of work this week, beautiful, Oh no,
you gotta deliver.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Yeah, I'll be working.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Oh that's all right though.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
I work right up till Christmas Day.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
So we've been at this for a minute.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Before we get out of here, I do want to
make sure that everybody knows that this whole episode is
why we love music. It brings people together in for
for you, this Ace Freely was one of those guys
that not only changed your life, inspired you to do
a lot of things. Is there anything inspirational that you

(59:11):
felt that Ace has done through his trials and errors
that he that you might be able to bring out
that can teach anybody in this world.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
There was something I'll paraphrase it. There's something that I
remember when I first started playing guitar. Ace said something
like it was along the lines. He he never once
knew how to read sheet music. He just he just
went with it, you know. And if you basically, if

(59:44):
you're passionate about something, just go do it, you know.
He he always said he he should have practiced more.
He always I remember him always saying that if I
could have been so much better, if I would have
just practic just a little more. Yeah, but that's just
who he wasn't Part of the cool thing about Ace

(01:00:06):
was that you had that raw It wasn't perfect, and
it was different each time. Yeah, that feel to it.
So yeah, that that that was always something that stuck
with me because I remember when I wanted to pick
up a guitar, I was like, I have no idea

(01:00:27):
how to read music or and just I just kept
strumming a chord. Yeah, okay, that's an E and then
I just start adjusting my ears to this sound, and
you just keep going a little bit each day, and
you know, I, I don't know if I'd be doing
it if I never listened to Ace.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Yeah, And so that in inspiration from that can be
almost translated to everything in life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Oh yeah, right, just anything like even with my podcasting
at first, just getting better equipment along the way and
just upgrading. Like I was having, you know, ram issues
with my other computer. It was causing me to stop.
Something just wasn't Maybe the windows tend to Windows eleven.
So you know, I had to make a choice between
you know, a passion, a passionate thing that I do,

(01:01:18):
something I believe in which allows me to do podcasts
with you and many other people and meet other people
in this world I would never be able to meet,
like when I had Juice box Walker who's a UFC
fighter on and then just recently Connor Seaffert from the
waysis MMA Academy here in Erie, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
Just meeting different people.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Simon when I had Simon on mine, he was sitting
here telling stories about the Crystal method and and when
Fat Boy Slim took Roll the Dice and made it
his and they put it on his album. And for me,
that was the first song I heard from them when
I played me for Speed four High Stakes, so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
I had that game to yep, we talked about that
last time. That was my favorite game.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
It was, it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
And you know one of the guys on there, Roscoe
did Roscoe or Roscoe de Blue or whatever like that.
I put a message after I was listening to that album.
The one time I went put a message out to
him on the X and he went back and he
fired back, and he was like like a year ago
or something, and you know, this is a year or

(01:02:26):
two after the fact that he's like, oh man, I
really appreciate that rom Dprisco Romdprisco.

Speaker 4 (01:02:31):
Okay, all right, that's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Yeah, so you know that that album and then other
people would go under it. That album inspired a lot
of people to maybe more of an industrial kind of
feel to it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
And that's something different, yeah, kind of what Rob's what
Tobby was doing then, exactly like that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
So that's that's the best parts of life and that
brings everything together.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
And that's what Ace meant. You know, Kiss being a
big band. That not only the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
You know, grew on my family later in life, but
it was something that made that made my daughter different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
I said that. I've said it before.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
In a sea of princesses, Disney princesses, my daughter was
the only Kiss princess.

Speaker 4 (01:03:15):
She was the coolest one out there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Then that and that black made her stand out. Kids
are scared of that black, but she was just like them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
She just wanted to do something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
She wanted to represent a band that inspired her, the
music that inspired her, you know, and I know that,
you know, a four year old five year old jumping
around singing some of those songs.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
By Hey, it's got to start somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
You gotta feel it, because like you were talking about,
the best type of music is what comes from the soul.
And that's what the that's what Ace said that translated
to you, that made you become part of that music,
therefore touching Ace's soul.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
When you play his music.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
Absolutely all right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Buddy, before we get out of here, you want to
throw out anything, Yeah, I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:04:04):
Throw out my Kiss fan page. Uh, it's on Instagram.
I just kicked up the it just started up the
facebook page Aces Kiss Asylum Instagram Facebook. We'll be doing
a lot over there, daily history this Day and Kiss

(01:04:25):
Story stuff and stuff like that. Yeah. So I'll keep
me busy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah for me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
That's that's again comes back to everything that goes. But
I gotta say this was a hard We've tried to
put this episode.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
This has been like a month months since ye fast
Yeah yeah, yeah, we did it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
We did it. We did it, and we hope that
everybody loved this episode.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
That brings maybe some of the memories, maybe some of
the things that you experienced that you were going at,
you know, like follow, share this episode, comment, find us
on the x go, go to mess playlist and listen
to them and talk to them through there and through
his music on on the YouTube and everything, and listen
to the pot of Thunder, because that's how you find us,

(01:05:13):
that's how you get to do all this.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
And we just hope that we did Ace a justice
by this, and.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
I think that we did.

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
That's just that's I love it. Man, all right, brother man,
thanks a lot, brother.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
Anytime, Rob, thanks for having me. I'm glad we finally
got this. That's always done.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
And in the last shout out to Ace before you go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:35):
Out, hope it's good on Gendell Ace.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Much love Ace, And that's how we always remember

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