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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
What's up everybody, It's he'd overrideing up, ready to bring
the pain for you and doctor Road this week.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, we're getting a little festive in here. Yeah, what's
up Dan? How you doing?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Man?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Last day of work
for the week. So where we're good?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
And I got my little man with me right here,
so we're good.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
My dogs would knock like that, we know that though
my dog's are waw they'd be like, what's in the camera?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
What is going on? What is it going crazy?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So welcome to bring the pain everybody. This is normally
I do my hard hits review. We don't have any
UFC the NFL. We could talk a little bit about that.
There were some definitely hard hits and bad beats that
did happen, things that we'll talk about as well too.
Also throughout the episode, me and Dan will also reveal favorite.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Christmas foods, favorite Christmas songs, favorite Christmas movies, Star Wars
die Hard, a Christmas movie we might cover that too.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I know we're on a little time limit, but we
got about forty fifty minutes a year right now, so
we're about good.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
That's right. And I got the brace off today. I
got the brace off.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. Well, let's
give everybody.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Let's give everybody a straight up player right now.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Look, I know that.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Sometimes people don't like to look down. But this team, team,
we're gonna talk about Aloie Gilman, defensive.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Back for the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
In the past four games, this man has accumulated thirty
one touch tackles and has one touchdown. That player is
a pickup for anything that you need right now, because
right now Gilman is all over the field. Go to
your waiver wire, pick them up. If you need a
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defensive back. Maybe you lost a defensive back.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
In the last like I was saying, in the last
four games, eight seven, eight, eight tackles, play the over
five and a half if you can get it, maybe
four and a half four tackles.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
There's a bet prop for you as well.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
And at the same time you'll get that constant production
that Gilman puts out himself. This is a smash play
right now. The Ravens, the Ravens, as we were talking about,
are the latest and once again sufferers of the Lamar
Jackson injury.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Damn talk about it, hey man.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Then we talked about it last week. These running quarterbacks
they need. I'm not a fan of a running quarterback.
It's someone that could stand in the pocket and throw
the balls that need to be thrown. Yep, running quarterbacks,
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that's what a running back is for. You could run,
you could run the option, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ah, but.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Just regularly fifteen to ten to fifteen times a game,
just running your quarterback. It's going to beat them up.
And that they're throwing arm collar, bones, knees, ankles, anything,
anything could go at any time, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
And it's not about that like we were talking.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It's about all of that actually, And we were talking
about actually too, going low. A lot of defensive players
go low, always try to drop their waight.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Of course, there's penalties for this. Now.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Players are getting kicked out more often now, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
They're getting suspensions. I mean, DK Metcalf catches suspension.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
That kind of hurts the Steelers, But I don't think
you'll need him this week against the Bret Low.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
I mean, you need somebody to throw the ball to.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
But well, the whole thing about that is, I mean,
if the if the Ravens lose on Saturday, we don't
got to do nothing.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
You're right, You're right, you don't got to do nothing
because you guys are gonna get that week off because
we know if the Ravens lose, you guys are benching
Aaron Rodgers for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
For two weeks.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
For two weeks.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, huh. That old man is gonna be happy. He's
gonna be living it up on New Year's Eve.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Going, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Hope it happens because I want to see what what
uh what the new kid has?
Speaker 4 (04:41):
What what our rookie has?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah? Will Will Howard.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Will Howard?
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And I think Will Howard will start one of those
games if they do lose.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Yeah, And I think, honestly, this is a point smash
point where you start, you bring in Caleb Johnson, still,
maybe sprinkle in to keep them fresh with Warren and Gay.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Well, but I think at this point, like you said, Raves,
that I do.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Mean you bench game, well, you bench game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Weell, Yeah, I mean after last week, it just showed.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
But number two and three guys running the ball because
right now I think Jalen Warren is the number two guys.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. Uh, it feels that way. It really does feels
that way.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Game game weell Is was such a big pick up
and he's been such.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
A stud all year that Hey, how you doing, Harley?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Are you Claire popping in? What up? Hollywood? I know
you up in here? Some love a little bit of
Doctor Rodo?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah yeah that what with that?
Speaker 2 (05:52):
You?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
You have to rest some of those guys. Yeah, and
you know, Hayward's not gonna play. High Smith's not gonna play,
Jalen Ramsey's not gonna play, of the all those guys
on the back end. But I do hope they I
hope they do play, and I hope they stay fresh.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, and I think that that's what this next game
will be. But your true rest game will be maybe
play just a quarter. But I know for a fact
that Aaron Rodgers is not going to play and that
and in that last game and here and this.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Comes back to it, people, no matter we.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Addressed the white elephant, right because this is not Timmy hear.
This is a Christmas episode, so holiday cheer to everybody.
At the same time, you know you're sitting at yourself,
You're looking in the mirror. We constantly give into quarterbacks
like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
What happened with Kyler Murray this year?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I jumped on I jumped on his little bit of bandwagon.
I said, all right in seasonal leagues, I felt like
I could get color Murray, wait got him and that
he's hurt. He's hurt because these guys do not condition.
They may condition your body. And look, I'm just gonna
straight out and call him out. Your running quarterback is
gonna get your team in bad situations? How many times
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over the past five years, six years has has Huntley
had to come in for Lamar?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Now, the fact that he comes in that often.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Over the years only shows what's going on. This is
look at Anthony Richardson. Everybody's like, oh, Anthony Richardson's gonna
come back. Why he's gonna play one quarter? One quarter
before he gets taken out And and everybody gotta.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Goes, well, what what does that mean? Who kind of
person on you that's not very supportive.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
I'm not gonna support garbage, right, I'm not gonna go
We said it last week. I'm not gonna keep sit
reiding yourselves. Running quarterbacks suck and Jalen Hurts got lucky,
wentin his Super Bowl and that's fine. They got past
the Rams. I'm not salty about that because there are
problems this year. But you're seeing the problems with Jail
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and Murray or Jail it hurts You're I said, Jayalen Murray.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Pretty much the same guy.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Don't matter to Cam Newton when it came time for
Cam to rely on his arm, Lamar relies on his arm.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
All these other players just.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Or if they even get a chance to bomb, because
practically they're just hurt half the year.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
At the same time, this doesn't go this goes off
into the next realm because you could say, well, Joe
Burrow got hurt.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, Joe Burrow did get hurt.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Guess what, he came back and waxed the shit out
of the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
So I mean that didn't go well, you know last time.
But the kind of they kind of did it.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Man, sometimes they this is nuts. I'm sorry I was
reading the comments.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, so this is we can go back to
Robert Griffin, that we could go.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Back to Vince Young. Yeah, they can literally get into
the thing and they go, oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
JD. Daniels I said this, he went running out of bounds.
In a minute, he went running out of bounds. I
was like, he done, he done. We have seen him since.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
You can go back to Randall Cunningham, I mean, Michael Vick.
You go back and every running quarterback gets hurt and
they're never the same.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I'm not a fan, but I hope Patrick Mahomes recovers,
and I.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Hope, I hope he's able to play the way he plays.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
I'm not I'm not a fan of his, but I
I wish nothing but a recovery and I hope he's good.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yep. And the thing is is like that's rareness.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But he was running and and and sometimes, you know,
being a game breaker, it leads to that. So I'm
gonna say in Patrick Mahomes, since that was more of
a game breaking.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
They were desperate, they needed to win that game, and
it happened.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
But all these other dudes are running that board ball
way more than Patrick Mahomes, way more. Even Daniel Jones
of course, to play that. Jones got hurt on but
Daniel Jones in the past has always used his legs,
has always kind of, you know, stole those those goal
line touchdowns from our fantasy football running back to DFS
running backs. Now we're back into this man that just
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doesn't give me enough to say to hang my hat
on for a seasonal team.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm gonna hang my hat on this guy. I'm gonna
hang my my money.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
You're gonna hang your money on a guy that in
the past five season has played two and a half seasons.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's not worth it. Okay, So surfboard, you are right.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
We have not talked about Josh Allen. Is the is
the reason why? Well, first of all, let's just talk
about that that guy. Since I drafted him eight over
eight years ago in my fantasy football league, Josh Allen
has has got me to the final.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Four eight straight years. I just cashed my ticket to
go into my championship game. And that is because of
a quarterback like Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
He does run a lot, he's bigger, but we could
go back to Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Allen is like Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But with Josh Allen, Josh Allen could stand in the
pocket and he could throw the balls that need to
be thrown. The people that we're talking about cannot stand
in the pocket and throw the balls that need to
be thrown.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
They get that, they they get happy for you.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And they want to run, they want to leave the pocket.
Josh Allen can actually stand in the pocket, take a
hit and actually throw the ball. Lebar Jackson cannot do that.
He cannot do that when when one wheel is bad,
he panics. And look what happened this year? His wheels
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are his wheels are bad.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Well, he's getting old.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
And for years, you know, his wheels are bad, and
he cannot and he cannot take many more of those hits.
Uh Archie r G three is a perfect example. RG
three was for his first two years was one of
the best quarterbacks in the league just because.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Of the rollout option play.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And he got hit hard on that sideline and he
was never the same, never.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Never, And and I think that that's and this is where, okay,
so when you look at it from a fantasy football
point of view, and then you look at it from
what you just described right there.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
This when you're a.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Team like the Colts and you're calling up Philip Rivers,
who's just about of half of a Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Bid.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
He's balling right now.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, he's doing the best a forty four year old
man can do.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Kid on the way, two and fifty yards and two touchdowns.
He's ballid right now, and he's my age.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The thing is is that he's actually better than Anthony Richardson.
There's the reason why he's there because Anthony Richardson sucks.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, that's it, and people don't want to say it.
I'm not saying he doesn't suck.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm not saying I'm saying he sucks, but I'm not
saying he sucks as like a person's.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
He could be a good dude, you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He I remember when he first started in his rookie season,
people were.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Like, Oh, he's gonna be the best thing ever. And
he was hurting within two weeks.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
So you're saying me, you're gonna put one thousand, five
hundred dollars for an entry free into a season long league,
and you're gonna put that money on one of these bums,
one of these guys.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
These guys, Nah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
People just go to doctor Roto and use code word
win and get the real information.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
That you need. Don't go popping on Sirius xent and
seeing that regurgitated crap. At least our guy Doc calls
it out and goes it differently.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
There's a few other hosts that don't obey to their
laws too, you know, my guy Jeff being one of them.
Another few other guys too. But at the same time, well,
we're firing him back. These guys are telling you to
pick those guys. I don't want to pick them, and
they're telling you not to pick Josh Allen. And Josh
Allen has been the best fantasy football player since he's
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been the best fantasy football player.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
He's number one except for last week. Except for last week.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Dude, he still got me to the championship, all eight
points of him.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
He killed me. He killed me, He killed me.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Did you Eli's coming back there? You go?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, Hey, you.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Taught to bring him back? Him and Danny DeVito he did.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Oh, dude, we need DeVito back, and no I do.
I do like Jackson Dart but he Surfboard also brought
up the fact that Big Ben could say in the
pocket and Dude's couldn't bring him down. And you know, Dan,
he lives in Pittsburgh. So he's a huge Ben Roethlisberger fan.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Man. Dude, he's right, dude, He's right.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Big Ben was a different breed.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I mean Ben was a different breed than Eli because
Eli got.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Breathed on and he fell over. Big Ben was stiff
Ormon people, and then.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
I would get up and look like this, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I mean it's just different. I don't know, and I'll
say it to this day. Ben should have been the
number one quarterback picked in that draft.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Dude. I loved it when he picked him.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Actually, Roethlisberger was one of the guy that I went after,
and for many years in the same league, was always
that quarterback I would get late because they all hate
the Steelers.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
They all hate Big Ben. A lot of people do.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And you know what, if you're gonna give me that
type of production with Antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell around
him at that.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Time, dude, that Killer Bee, that Killer Bees lineup was unreal.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And here we go. People are still going after Lamar Jackson. Right,
you got Ben Roethlisberger. You can get him in the
tenth round, twelfth round because everybody hates him.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You got you gotta pick Lamar within the first three
rounds and you're gonna miss out on a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And that's the difference between going with the regular alure
or free dfs s. I'm telling you there's a difference
between the paid content and not paying content. And you
get that, like you see all the stuff in the subs.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Let Discord, damn. Now you're you're part of that and
you're in there.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You see how many how many sports get put out
and what goes on and.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Dude, actually surfboard. I'm gonna and I'm gonna talk about that.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
But Eli was the first to retire out of that
draft class, so.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It wasn't Ben. Ben was actually the last one. Uh no, uh,
he was the second one to retire because Eli Rivers.
Rivers is back.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
How don't you think the old guys, let's just bring
it back.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Just old dudes, man, they're they're my age still plays.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I mean, look at Stafford.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Stafford's from all these things too, but Stafford's Stafford's was.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Yeah, that's that's what we said. Rivers was last, and
he's still last. He's thanks to the still last because
he can Richardson.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
So let's start. Let's people stop with the running quarterback.
Here's gonna be something.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
That you can do, and Dan was unfortunately the recipient
of this this year. Everybody that says zero running back,
just if that, if someone says zero running back, turn
their show off.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I swear, turn their show off and come listen to
heat over on. Just stop with it. Just look what
happened with the people with Jamar Chase and what you
had to deal with. Look what happened and all you.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
People were hating on Jonathan Taylor and Jonathan Taylor took
that ball and rammed it down your throat.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Not the last couple of weeks, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yeah, yeah, not the last couple of weeks. But the
thing is is, you see he.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Still performed like a regular dude, right.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
But what got me and what got it is that
everybody always is a namber with those wide receivers PPR,
ride receiver PPR. But then when you look dat it
and you've seen my team that played your team this
past weekend with Jean Robinson and johnath Taylor killed me.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I killed you by over one hundred some points, killed me,
and you were in the game with the other teams.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
That team, like we said last last week, because of
everybody ignoring the wide receivers in the first two rounds
and me having the first overall pick and snaking back.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
That's because that's because you run the league.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Any of you could have picked.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Jonathan Taylor James Cook were first overall pick.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
So I was. I wasn't there for the first six rounds.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
B I know, I know you were. You weren't. But
at the same time, have a great one and have
a happy holiday. Serve Board.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
It was great seeing you pop in. Thank you, and
make sure you check out the Fight Club of Pain.
We are going to kick it up next year with
that show. And I mean Juice box Walker just already
wants to come back off. Juice already wants to come
back on.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It's just he's going to get ready for a fight.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Man. I want to talk to him. I want to
talk to him.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I want I want to pick his I want to
pick his brain, and you know, tell him how I
think he fights.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Okay, no, that'll be fun too. That's that's what we do.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
In the Fight Club of Pain. We talk about fight
theory and we bring things together. But talking about fighting
and talking about all these things, I already gave out
my IDP Player of the Day. Let's get this thing
a little Christmas y right now, let's talk about it.
Give me a couple of your favorite gifts growing.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Up as a child.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
What do you remember A couple of my favorite good
I'm I'm a comic book nerd. I always I always
have been. So my favorite gift I got growing up.
Do you remember the old X Men TV show, like
ninety six seven.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I remember the original one that was like the first
time I ever saw Gambit, all.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right, so I got the Professor X Action figure with
the yellow with the yellow wheelchair and everything.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That was my favorite thing. Yeah I am. I'm a
Marvel nerd.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
You know you talk about that, and you know I'm not.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I would be more of a DC guy because of
John Constantine and Hillblazer.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Yeah, I'm a Marvel nerd. I love everything Marvel Man.
I always have.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Like as you know, I play, I play Spider Man,
like I dress up as Spider Man to do kids
parties with my daughter and your daughter.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah exactly. And then there's me. I'm over here you
with the bigins.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
A matter of fact, if I didn't have this thing
that is a macho man right there, that's the slim
gym thing right there. So you know, it's one of
those things that you know, brings people and memories and.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
And I think that sometimes in life people get away
from that. I think that in life today a lot
of people miss that aunt, that uncle that actually cared youmember,
like when you were.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Growing up as a kid and you'd be like, oh,
you're going.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Over to here, Jimmy or yeah, and you get excited
like yeah, yes.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
And you go over there and you have a great time.
It didn't even have to be Christmas. You can go
to your grandparents. Grandparents were proactive. Now these grandparents, these
grandparents act like children. They'd be like, yeah, you know,
I'm a great grandparent. I'm like, how old are you?
I'm fifty one.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, And none of them they're all so they're all
they all sit there and and and and.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Just like, well, I'm just gonna be right there. And
they don't even cook anymore. They go to Wegman's and
get the dinner pack.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yes, that's why that's why I teach my I teach
Macie so much. Uh family traditions and we cooked, we
cooked it to get together every holiday, you.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Know, she I teach her everything that I've learned to cook.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Ye, so you know, go on, no, no, like even
tomorrow we do we do the Feast of the Seven Fishes.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's what we did.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We do.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Though, Man, I'd be like after a while, I would
lose interest, you know, I got adhd.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
But no, there's there. They're every fish is different. So
I mean we do we do a little bit of everything.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So and that's that's that's what life should be like.
And you know one of my buddy, my guy that
you know runs the Josh Allen Lee Keith.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
He he's that dude literally watches it. He's that guy
that watches multiple Christmas movies every single day, takes it
up Christmas story. He's raising his sons the same way.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
He's doing what he's gotta do to be not only
true to pass on those traditions, but also in his
family's a very family oriented friend or a family my
friend Dave was for the reason I met him and stuff,
and they have always all did everything together.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
So that right there is great.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
But to see some of it they and to see
these future jenniferations just not even be like a real
it and uncle just totally nonexistent.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
In those in any way.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I get I get it, I get it. Not everybody
has time. But I think that people lose the fact
that everybody wants to attack Christmas. It's a pag and
hall today. It's all this stuff. Whatever your beliefs are, right, well,
this and that. But in the end, it's a about
the time.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's about it's about who you see. It's not even
about the gifts.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
It's a it's a remembrance to bring people together in
your family.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
And I agree. Man.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
My nephew just turned thirty one today, thirty thirty one today,
and I text him all We've been texting back and
forth all day.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
So dude, that's the.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
First nephew I ever had, and he that he lived
with us for a long time. So I mean, I
I'd like to keep family close.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yes, yes, And that's that's what's great about that, at
least the great times like great movies.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
What what are some of the I mean, other than
a Christmas story, what are some of the Christmas movies
or things that you might watch on TV that you
always look forward to during Christmas season?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Man, the very first movie we ever watch every Christmas
season is national Lumpood's Christmas thinking. That's the first, that's
the first. That's the first movie we watch every year
every year. Uh that that's a tradition. But then we
watched like Home Alone and yeah you know all those
(26:18):
three No, no, no, no, we only watched the first two.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
We like the ones with Macaulay Culkin.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Oh yeah, no, no, he was only he was only into.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's right, that's right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, because
it was birds in the second one, the bird gyirdy birds.
Uh me.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
No one else watches it with me, but I I
love watching.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Oh what's it called? No, no, no, no, It's a Wonderful Life.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Oh yeah, Keith loves that movie. He says, I think
he says It's a Wonderful Life. Is the number one
Christmas movie of all time.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah, I love watching it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
I usually watch it by myself because these two fall asleep.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah every time.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
But it's like five hours long.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Well that's only when you watch it all TV. It's
actually like an hour and a half. Clove.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, so over here in this corner, this is where
my grandpa would have his main Christmas tree.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Over here, I bought my grandfather's house people.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So that's why he'd override, was able to do all
these things like fight and go do things because.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
My house payment is not even a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
So he would put this little tree here, and he
always would have the Nativity set. I would always come
over here and I would play in that corner right
there as a child.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So it's great to.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Kind of like, so all those memories kind of come
back and kind of come into fruition with.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
This house because this is the house.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I spent many Christmases, we did our family stuff, then
we would come here, and then of course my my
grandma owens around.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
The corner, the you know, the good old pizza Bomber house. Ha.
So you know, it's just one of those sakes, a
pizza bomber.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
Pizza.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
What a dick that guy was, you know?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
That was That was That was my As I've said before,
that was my first time I ever encountered an alcoholic.
My dad was an abusive drunk, but not so like
abusive where he's beating us all the time.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
But he did beat us, and he you know, he
used to lay.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
His hands on my mom back in the day, and
that's sad, but that's the way you know things.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
I don't know, that's just the way he was. I
don't do that. But at the same time, you know,
when you get through that, you see that abuse, you're
just like, it grows you up, it makes you into
different things. And and that's but he would bring us
down here. He would bring us down here.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
He would always make sure that those traditions were held
in things. So, yes, my dad wasn't perfect, but what
was perfect about him and my mother was that we always.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Had these traditions.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
We always made sure that we stayed and it leads
to great times.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
With movies die Hard, you know, now do you Let's
let's have a discussion for a few seconds. Is die
Hard a Christmas movie?
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I I raised my daughter believing that die Hard is
a Christmas movie because I watched it every Christmas season.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, okay, and you know so, and everybody goes just
because it happens in the Christmas time doesn't mean it happens.
That's the same thing for Gremlins. Is Gremlins a Christmas movie?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yes, I agree, I ay, I you know, yeah, Gizmo
kaka what we got it?
Speaker 4 (29:47):
I remember Gizmo was a Christmas present.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, it was or dude. The word dude.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I remember kaka, like just being a kid and being
allowed to say the word kaka. Great, we're talking about
getting away with different words and everything.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
So you know, I'll say a couple of my favorite gifts.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
You know, my wife Chrissy, she got me the Xbox
three sixty to one year and there was a lot
of call of duty in that year and then for
many years after that, Turtle beaches, everything like that. So
that was my you know, we had a whole team.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Even her dad played. Her dad played, so it was crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
He was kind of like a sniper dude, so we
always knew where he would be and then I would
just go running around being a madman.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I got so crazy with the riot shield. This is
before the riot shield became cool. I got a quad
kill with the riot shield with my whole crew watching.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
It was. It was the funniest shit. Anybody see all
you do is you see me walking with this thing,
and these guys are looking at the window and go
and they're like, bro, you killed everybody with the riot Shield.
And I was like, yeah, getting death streaks with a
riot shield. Bro. That was before it was cool, you know,
because that's what we do. Uh, And I'll say predacing,
(31:07):
prediting transformer. Me and my brother got the original predit
king and the Predacons and of course a formed predicting
and ye that's got it all. And I mean it
was predicking was.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Like that big, But it was just those I've had
a lot of other great gifts, of course, but those
two have always kind of stuck out, you know, because
there's been a lot of genes and a lot of
shirts and a lot of socks.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well I like socks more now, but you know.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Hey, hey, that's all I asked for, is that I
asked for socks, the undershirts and underwear.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That's what I asked for every year.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
That's amazing, dude, it's you know, and I think I
want to get back to it. That that's what that's
what I feel. And I know this world is missing
these days. If we still had all these traditions, it
would go. And I'm not saying that, well, the people
that kept those traditions are the people that beat you
up too. And it's like you could go ahead and
(32:06):
say that people, you can, but those people love this
And I will tell you what it was pretty entertaining
watching my dad and his friends.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Get drunk sometimes and just laugh because that's what my friends.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
We would just laugh and of course they were just
doing their own stuff and not really any violence.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Like that's what we need back. That's what I think
life is about. And I think that that is the
key to life. Cheers, bro, cheers, cheers, bring the pain.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Uh, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
And hey, I got to a good gift, good gift.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Last year, one of my best gifts ever.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
I got to a good gift last year.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Bro, you got the.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
So Dan got me a jersey with my name on
it and my football number thirty two on it. That
jersey is truly amazing too. And what we you know,
we were talking. It is like that that I've always
wanted a jersey with my name on it.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's always been kind of a dream of mine.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
And to actually get that, but to get it in
a La Rams because that was a dream growing up,
and of course Saint Louis Rams happened.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well, this was La Ram jersey and it was the
home colors.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Sometimes I hate the color white, especially on a jersey,
because then it gets like that orange and I just
can't give me the blue.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
You your team black jersey. We're good. We're good.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
And hey, I got yellow numbers. If it gets yellower,
it's just yellow numbers.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hey, man, I'm I'm still proud of Like I went
hard last year for that.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You got Christia jersey to my jersey. That was that
was amazing too. So you know, this is what people do.
They change people they give Dan Dan. Dan did that
out of the kindness of his heart, but he didn't
know that it actually had been wishing for that almost
all my life.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I didn't like I casually text you, hey, what was
what was your high school football number?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
And and and so you were my Sannah. You were
my Santa. That listened sub subsitually over all these years.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You became that Sannah and that again is the meaning
to life.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Hey, like I said, man, family, and then here's me.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Beer beer beer beer, beer, beer beer.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
I'll take it a man.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
I gotta go get Molly, all right, I have a
beer right now.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
And like I said, man, family family first, and you
guys are family.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
I I totally appreciate that and everything you have done.
And then being able to take my daughter to actually,
oh look, we got a comment and take my daughter to.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Hey man. No no, no, no, no, you you bring my
daughter to eerie all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
So I don't want to hear that, right, Yeah, like
you bring you bring my daughter up to air and
you treat her like gold all the time.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, maybe she's awesome. She's awesome.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
So a VGM journey is actually is the messenger. He
just actually did a secret Santa show so and it
was where all of us VGM guys video game music
guys gay gifted a song for everybody. Alex has been
doing this for six years and this was the sixth
(35:28):
year he did it, and it was big. I even
gave him like a whole read out and then I
said it to him and it was like two minutes
and thirty eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I was like, oh boy, that's just off. But I
literally I went off. I went off.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
But the fact that people like Alex makes that happen.
That's what the Christmas joy is about. And to be
on that show since he asked me, it was like
an honor I feel because I'm like, I'm not like
a rookie, but these guys are so deep into the
VGM and I.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Just pop in out of sports for a second.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I go Nichigids, Mega Mans right, and these guys got
it to it art, they got it. But me and
Alex have talked plenty of times. We did sport podcast
We did hockey podcasts.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
You know, we do VGM. We did a VGM.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Sport podcast, is what I was getting at. But we
also did a lot of other stuff too. I was
on Alex the show. We did ad We did nineties
sport themes for his show, and so it was all
those games coming up in music from it.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
We had such a great time doing it.
Speaker 5 (36:33):
But the fact that he's able to facilitate this this
secret Santa through video game music, it just shows that
there's always an idea and as long as you take
the initiative, you'll find joy.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, I done.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I agree, man, I agree that that would actually have
been really cool like group message to be in.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, oh it is. It is. That's all we do.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
That's we talk about all sorts of stuff and then
they go leave stuff in there, you know, different like remixes.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
There's Martyrus, he does the REVGM, so he focuses on
a lot of like covers and I like it, you know.
And then there's Professor Tom. There's Parnell, and there's there's
also Brian from the BGM Mania. There's so many other people.
There's Kung Fu Carlito, who still has not watched Invincible Superchan. So, Carlito,
(37:26):
you watch Invincible Superchan.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I don't even I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Bro, bro is, send you a link and you go
watch just the opening scene and so much bullshit's gonna happen.
You're gonna be like, ah, right, then you just flip
it to the next scene. He fights for forty five
minutes and is the most insane.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
That's crazy bullshit you'll ever see.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
He flies up a mountain like this, right, like so
you just see him fly up and there's a man.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
There's literally, I'm bro, there's so many crazy moments. There's
a man chucking arrows. He flies up and throws that
man off and then flies halfway back down.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Why why so so for me that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
But I'm gonna send you that and all you gotta
watch is the first few seconds. So he's definitely go
When we got here, yes, yes they did, they really
brought it.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
That was an amazing show.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
And then seeing the comments in the VGM discord afterwards,
is again like what we do with Doctor Rodo, it's
more than just bets, DFS all the stuff all around.
It's about that. But let's just plug that real quick.
Codeword win at Doctor.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Rode will get when we go with some money.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Also, you want to jump onto.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Macy walked past me.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I tried to get her, so, hey, you tried, you tried,
So you know, like all this stuff going on, man,
this is just what we do.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Man.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
You know, we just have family and you know we
try to be more than a DFS site.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
That's that's the true meaning of it. And and then
of course, like Alex just chimed in like right before that.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Man, it's it's just that that's the meaning of life.
I say that a lot this episode.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Everyone brought it this year for the secret, but you,
he said.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Including you. I thought, he said, But the cool dude,
he will.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
He will draw me like that, he will, he will
bust my balls.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Right now. I was actually talking with him. We were
going to do a show about the top Pittsburgh Penguins
of all time, and so we got to the Barrasso
and worry talk and I.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Had to lean his way with the Larry, can I
be on that.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Yes, can I be on that because I I was
a I was a hockey fan for a long time,
a long time.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
You could definitely be on that.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Sean, I'm a Kings fan, but I know I know
the Penguins, so definitely we could definitely have it on.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And now that we we can't just do the Penguins.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
It's almost like I'm not even a hockey guy, so
but trying to have the hockey experts on. But I
I kind of feel like I want to do the team,
so I'm gonna throw in I'm gonna throw in the
Kings next.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I'm not saying I'm doing the whole league people, that's
a lot. But maybe I'll just do something like that.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
I mean, with the Penguins, you gotta throw in Paul Coffee.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
That's the defensive guy. Mess Alex, if you're still on here.
Paul Coffee was a dude I was thinking about. There's
a dude I was thinking about. I was like, I
can't get it.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
You gotta throw in Larry Murphy.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Paul Coffee and Larry Murphy were two best defensive players
on the in the league, all right, Well they were
they were, and that's what made that Penguin team really good.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
And you know, of course, going back to Yogurt and Lemieux.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
That Martin Straka.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
Martin Straka was that guy for you.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Guys had Ron Francis too, didn't you.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
We had Ron Francis, We did Ron Francis.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
See, this is what we dude, this is why we're
this is why we became so good at UFC.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
We literally can just go We're just gonna go here
the hell.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I wouldn't even talk about Ron Francis. Ron Francis with
the with the Whalers was unreal.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Dude, he said, Whalers. Yeah, no, And you know, being
the Kings, I've seen a lot of people like, dude,
I'm a huge Zigmund Paulfy dude, and.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
Zigm Paulfy has my birthday, so that's even better. I
was like, cause that was my guy.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
I used to call him. I was like, Paul fd
oh man. And you know that's Rob Blake days. So
you know, this is like sports, this is smith. We've
talked about a lot of different things. It's been a
really fun episode. You know, I'm gonna have to wrap
it up soon though, because I have to go get
the daughter.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
But with Christmas, Christmas coming. What's your dream UFC fight?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Any any division? You could pick a division, but any division.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well, you know what, I don't want to I don't
want to be too cliche, but man, all right, I.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Don't want to do any division. I just want to
go back to old school. You know, I got Chuck,
I got you.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Want you want anybody versus anybody?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay at it.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Now We'll go right now because it makes sense for
the show in the fight club. Right now, I want
to see Tom Aspinall first, Waldo Cortes Acosta. If Walde's
Waldo Cortes Acosta knocks out Derek Lewis, I think he
gets the shot after don ye if done gets a shot.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
If as All fights.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
Really that's you. That's your dream Matcho.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
No, that's a matchup I want to see. Yeah, I'm
talking about Fox fighting, juice Box fighting. I'm box fighting.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
I'm talking about a dream matchup, a dream matchup.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
I mean, dude, I'm going juice Box. That's my guy.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Somebody might move up, someone might juice Box might move up.
I can't. I mean, we everybody's gonna say the chekav intoporia, right,
but you don't want to see that, and.
Speaker 4 (43:48):
I hate that. I hate that match up. I hate
I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I mean, honestly, I would like to see Holloway and
Pimblet because I think that that might have that might happen.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
I think that that's like for me, that's the I
want to see those two guys together because I think
Halloway has that prestige and I think that if Piblic
can get past Yashi, then he's gonna get that shot.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
And I think that that might be the next thing.
But I don't know if they'll put Max up against him.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Man, you're thicker like a podcaster, not like a not
like a fight fan.
Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, I'm trying to get.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
A fight fan like. I would love to see Robbie
Lover fight George Saint Pierre.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Oh see now you I asked you if you wanted
to go all.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Time, all the time, all right, I want to see you.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I would love to see Robbie Lover fight GSP.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
How about Tito Ortiz verse Alex.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
That'd be a good fight because Pereira it's not really
good on the ground, and that's all that's all.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
Yeah, Yeah, I mean he's already he's already accomplished tank.
Speaker 4 (45:19):
But if you google it, Tito or Teas created the
ground abound.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yes, yeah, so there's your UFC fact for the day. People.
He said he would so talk about Ron Francis. Yeah,
he was listening. Yes, Oh dude, it's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
See, we're gonna make that show happen. We're gonna make
that show. These are the things that you get from
Bring the Pain at Doctor Roto, especially just like Dan
coming out and then just like one of a Discord
sessions and a VGM thing.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Now we have a hockey show. Like, so that's what
that's what I love doing this for.
Speaker 4 (46:04):
Man, Oh man, I would I love every second of this, bro, I.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
Know, I know this is kind of why I was like, man,
do I just stay, Let's just wait till we get
back to do this and and do that. But you know,
we talked about our favorite movies. We've talked about Christmas songs.
Give me a couple of Christmas songs and then we'll
get up on out of Oh.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
Man, it's gonna be a bad choice, but my favorite
Christmas song is baby It's Cold Outside.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
I know that you said it was a bad choice.
You were gonna pick that, dude, I don't mind it.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Outside that's that's my favorite Christmas song? That that or uh, Kelly,
the Kelly Clarkson song.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Uh, I know what you're talking about?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
All I want for Christmas?
Speaker 4 (46:52):
No? No, what's that called? The Kelly Clarkson song? I
Love Underneath the Tree.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
By Yeah, okay, it is for me. I've always been
a holly jolly Christmas. I've always been that. I've always
been that kind of like kind of dude right there too.
And you know I've always loved jingle bell rock.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Great, it's a great one. It's a great one.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
That's Those are just a few of the songs. And
again all of the all the cheer, all the presents.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Again going back to what you were able to do
for me and what people family, family does anybody.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
That's what we do with doctor Roto. It's what we
do in the ring. You know, we were t k
o Leary, we geve me make yourselves better. They're sparring tonight.
We're here podcasting. I'm gonna go kick her up.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
That's what we do for each other. Man.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
My daughter comes to your house, you treat her like
a it's like the best person in the world for
a whole weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
She gets to call me the show for the whole weekend.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
Yeah, you sent her back. She has nothing but smiles, man,
And I'm nothing but thankful for it.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah, and I'm thankful to and you know the things
that we do, and that's that's the true spirit of
Christmas People. WHOA all right, brother, I better get out
of here before I'll get crucified by my wife for
not pick being late picking up my daughter.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
But I do want to thank everybody that came through
for the show. It's a little different. Dan, thank you
for also coming on to you know. It sucks that
we were kind of up against it.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
And guess what, I never gave out my macho pick
of the week. So my macho pick of the week
will be on the Ultra Contrarian show.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
It's Christmas People. As a bonus, if you make it
over to Doctor.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Rodo and get into the subs only discord, we will
make you our rich friend, because maybe I'll do a
Christmas show or a Christmas show for everybody in the
morning after we get back with the festivities.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Maybe I'll give you guys some NFL picks.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I have a betting article that comes out that day anyway,
so you should definitely check that out.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
That's how we make money on Chris.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
That's right, man.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
All right, brother man, you have a great day. Love
you man.
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Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas everyone that's.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Watching, and to all a good night.
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Thanks for stopping by the office.
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Speaker 2 (49:39):
Build the next visit and be well and take care