The Ultra Contrarian DFS Show | NFL Week 4 - Bring The Pain

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Get out the insurance cards, get out the copays. The
office is open you by doctor Rhodo Doc.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
So let's get to it.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
What's up everybody at teat Override and I'm ready for
another episode of Bring the Burn? Yeah for another ultra
contrarian show.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Dig it?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, what's up fego, Steve? How you doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well. You know, Uh, it's
a good day. And we got football tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We've got UFC right now, We've got the UFC. I'm
wearing my fight Club of shirt or fight Club a
pain shirt because you know, I want I want all
my fights to win. I got I got some really
good picks. I'm already pretty sure thyan Ire already won.
I look, she looked like she was kicking the heck guf
out out of her opponent. So we're just gonna sleep
with that look, So like like, let's just go with

(01:14):
that and then of course put the second fight's already
in right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
But where in the talk.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Nfl DFS, what's the ultra contrarian show is? Is I
kind of give out cash game and cash gate plays
and then Steve fills in with gg or gg GPP plays,
and then at the end he gives out his Flagle
pick of the week along with his his core four
and then a lineup as well as at the end

(01:40):
I give out my ultra contrarian lineups, both won for
Fandel and DraftKings. Both are two and one right now,
struggling along but doing good. Just having to play the
cash game lineups but nothing big hit yet close but
not Cigar And then Steve, I know it's been about
the same for you.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, you know. The first week in NFL one lineup,
I did, you know, hardly. I didn't play much at all,
but it did really well in the past two weeks. Well,
depending which you and I, you know, I would say
my my original name instead of Fuego Steve was short

(02:20):
Slate Steve. I love the short slates. Yeah, short Slate
Steve before it became Fueger Steve because I love the
small slates, I love the single games, I love the showdowns.
But the two so you know, my full day nfls
did not do well. I hit on some picks, for sure,
but then I did I did a little bit better

(02:41):
in some of the uh you know, night contests and
things like that. And then of course that uh not
not yesterday. I was doing well at NBA w n
B A. But people need to get in there. Before that,
I had won like several days in a row in
the w NBA playoffs, So you need to get in there.
I don't do articles, but I put my lineups in Discord.

(03:03):
That's usually a draft Kings GPP lineup, and I tell
you who I think is going to do. And if
you ever have any questions whether you're playing any of
the millions of sites there are, now, who's gonna win?
You know, we still have a couple of weeks left.
H Well, you know the w NBA playoffs. Let me know.
If you just want to bet on a game, you
want to know the over under, get to me in
Discord and I will help you out.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah. So what he's talk about, of course is the
subs only discord at Doctor Roto. So if you're not
a sub yet, use codeword win joined today you will
become a rich friend. And he's talking about the w
NBA and the NBA. Now it's coming around, NHL is started,
and now we have football already full swing. UFC got
huge UFC three twenty event next week, this next week

(03:48):
is huge at Doctor Roto because there's so much content
going out between articles, both lineups and players in the
subs only discord that you don't want to misbeat everybody.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
And not to I'm not sure interrupt I said, didn't. Uh,
I'm gonna be back for NBA, so watch out. Okay, Uh,
NBA starting up soon. Now we say the official NBA
doesn't start till Christmas, but there's already preseason games. I'm
already paying attention. I will be writing articles, not just

(04:19):
putting in discord. So get ready because the NBA is
coming up very quickly. So once the w n b
A and the baseball season are over, we're right into
the NBA and the hockey season and all that and
UFCS all year, so you know, golfs all year, so
get in there, sign up you can also, Yeah, so anyway, yeah,

(04:39):
but yeah, now I'm getting I'm getting excited for NBA.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
But let's talk football. Let's let's talk it. Let's let's
let's plug a couple a few other shows. Last week,
Danger and a couple of the other guys. Trevor Lous started.
Any given entry that's gonna be geared towards single entry tournaments,
and then of course they brought out the first Rise
and Grind where they give they look at the we
can review and then kind of looked out a preview

(05:02):
of week the next following week. So that's kind of
two new podcasts, excited podcasts at Doctor Roto. So amongst
all of the Bring the Pain, amongst all the UFC,
of course, Doctor Roto will be live answering your start
sick questions and DFS questions tomorrow in the subs only
discord only at Doctor Rodo you gotta join? So yes,
you're right. Let's get to the main slate. Let's get

(05:23):
ready to bring the bird, all right? Well, first off.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Oh and just reminder everyone, just remind her when I
go dark, I'm doing it on my phone and looking
at my DraftKings. I'm mainly playing DraftKings DFS. But you
can hit me up with other questions as well. Cut
there you go.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yep, let's get that out the way, because you know,
we don't want to confuse anybody else at that anyway,
you know, and it gives you guys a little break, y'all,
make you right. But quarterback Patrick Mahomes, everybody's thinking about him, right,
now fuego. Steve is sweating about him because he puts
his boys. The Baltimore Ravens is gonna get lit up
by our boy Joe. Are Joe cooling to make it?

(06:04):
Patrick Mahomes cool?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Let's not get crazy. Now, let's not get let's not.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Get crazy, but go six thousand on DK, seventy eight
hundred on fandule. I'm gonna be playing. Nobody's gonna be
on Patrick Mahomes. They need to win this game. And
after we saw Andy Reid give Travis Kelsey a bro bump,
now they're gonna show up a play. But also the

(06:28):
Ravens are coming in with a nick I would say
a knock on their shoulder or a nick on their shoulder,
but they seem to keep dropping the knack or the
knick or the football because Derek Henry keeps fumbling and
it's destroying the ram the Ravens' chances to win these games. Steve,
how do you feel about that? And how do you
feel about Patrick Mahomes being one of my lock plays

(06:48):
of the week.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, I love it. It's it's a great play, okay,
But I tend to disagree with you a little bit.
I think I think a lot of the pros are
gonna be on him. I think out of the the
you know, big time players are are, they're gonna be
on him. So I think he may be a little
higher owned because Baltimore defense is again not off to
a good start. They've been letting up. It's at home

(07:12):
the you know, the loser of this game. I can't
believe I'm saying it, but Kansas City and Ball are
the losers. Game is gonna be one and three. Big
difference between two and two and one and three. Now,
I think they both can still make the playoffs. Case
I think is on the downside. Uh you know, and
I think, but it's crazy to me to think that
Kansas City or Baltimore is going to be one in three.
Right now, I think he's gonna have a great game.

(07:34):
And now, yeah, I do think he is gonna add
six thousand dollars, like you said, is a great price.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
But you know that's what I'm looking at, man. I mean,
when you when you take a step back, so when
I when I look at it all, look, first of all,
Josh Allen's gonna be my guy. He's gonna be my guy.
Right so when I go down to mid tiers, everybody's
gonna be looking around. They're gonna see Mahomes right there,
six house that they might not go with that, they
might be looking at somebody like Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams

(08:05):
is gonna pop on a lot of simulators. Plus a
lot of people are looking at the Bears versus the
Raiders to go over and on top of that giant himself.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Does I like that play? Yeah? I like that play too.
And not to interrupt, but.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
But this is what the show is about.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Let's get so right there you're talking. Look who's the
right around six thousand? You started with Mahomes in your
cash game. I'm gonna talk about my GPP here in
a second. But you got Stafford Williams, Jones, fucking may
Gino Smith going against He's still playing right against Vegas.
And then if you go up a little party Herbert,

(08:45):
Hey beart, Herbert, this is a sign Feld joke golf.
They're all in that six thousand range and those are
great plays. And if you look at the top, do
you have to play do you have to be like
look at and if you also look at the DraftKings.
So I'm playing DraftKings, like said, look at the Draftking
averages twenty five, twenty seven, nineteen. Well that Daniels is
out twenty two, Mayfield is gonna play if you're if

(09:07):
you're worried about the questionable tag, he is gonna go
twenty twenty, twenty three, eighteen twenty. All these guys are
averaging twenty some points. So why do you have to
pay up for Allen or even my boy Lamar Jackson,
who I do think it's gonna have a good game.
I don't once again think you have to pay them
for them when you can pay in that range. And
I'll just tell you right now, my GCH GPP play

(09:30):
is Stafford. It's at home at least right now. That's
I'm gonna it depends what I'm gonna think about it.
But he's still had he had thirty three attempts. He
ain't complete thirty three right, twenty thirty three, he didn't
complete a ton. But I'm gonna pair him up with
a receiver. I'm gonna mention later. Uh, it's Indiana's coming in.
But I like the Williams play. I might, I might

(09:52):
might switch it up and I will pay attention to
the discord because just everyone I mean in the six
thousand dollars range is great. But right now I think,
I think no one's going to really be on Stafford,
and he's got these different defense So at my GPP
play at fifty nine hundred Stafford. But you could go
any of those guys Mahomes, Jones, and remember when you

(10:13):
do pair them with the receiver.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yep. I agree with that one hundred percent. Actually, I
don't think anybody's gonna be on the rams. That's actually
gonna lead into the running back section of this, so
we might as well just get right to it, because
you know that's the next step. It's Kyne Williams. I
feel the same thing that a lot of people aren't
going to be targeting Kyron Williams. I think that they
think that Kyen Williams. I mean sixty three hundred DraftKings

(10:38):
now on the FDLE. The seventy eight hundred tag is
a little up there, but that kind of helps if
you come down a little bit. But the sixty three
hundred on DraftKings, for me, that's like almost criminal for
a guy that's getting near twenty, which carries a game
that to that's I'm putting all my money plus. At
some point Kyrone Williams is going to break loose, He's

(11:00):
going to get open, he's going to go over one
hundred yards, and he's going to have one of those
two three touchdown games when that happens, and the Rams
are coming off of just getting punked. When that happens,
you want to be a board Tyrone Williams. How do
you think about that?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, you know, I like him a lot. Let me
get back to my lineup. You know, it's a great play.
Remind me of a sixty three hundred. I mean again
going against Indianapolis at home. I like the Rams in
the game. It's a good play and and you know,

(11:35):
look at the other guys in that range, the sixty
two hundred, Kamara, they're all those I don't know. I
think Kamara is going to do well, but you know,
Williams Urban maybe and then then we start getting up
a little to the higher end guys. But that's a
great play for a cash game for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So what running back out of maybe that thing or
what running back is your wing this week? Brother?

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Well, I'm I'm we talked a little bit earlier. I
thought about going Henry. He's gonna he has a chip
on his shoulder. I thought, you know, I thought about
going Robinson again. That may change, but Washington does have
a big defense, and we said, please, we said it
last time. You can play Robinson every week. We have
no problem. He didn't even have like a quote unquote

(12:24):
great game last week, and what did you do? Sixteen
Fantasy points? So but I'm not gonna play a pay
up that high. You could go Gibbs, but between Gibbs
and Montgomery split that always worries me a little bit.
And Cleveland's got a decent defense. Barkley I like him.
I just don't know if he's lost. I'm not saying

(12:44):
he's lost the edge, but he's got his championship. Now
they're going against Tampa Bay. I think you could be
played Barkley. You know, I'm definitely gonna play I haven't
played him yet, and he's gonna have some big games.
He's still getting a lot of points. And then but
if you drop down to a guy that I think
maybe we're going to talk about is Cook. Cook's going
against the twenty six ranks defense. He's got twenty one,

(13:06):
twenty nine, twenty three, twenty three draft ging points. In
the last three games, He's got fifty three attimes for
two hundred and forty eight yards and four touchdowns. He's
averaging ninety four point seven yards a game, twenty four
point eight DraftKings points, and going against the twenty six.
He's had thirteen attempts the first game, but he caught
what was his targets, you know, five targets, five receptions,

(13:30):
you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, he's been on.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
I've been saying this all season, and you know it
because we've been preaching it on here. He was four
point five percent owned two weeks ago and people think
of like, like, what are you doing? And he was
six thousand men practically now he's up to seventy one hundred.
We're talking about going up. I mean this week you
could go mid price for everybody and you will be
floating pretty there's no real you don't have to pay

(13:56):
up at least on the cash in. So that means
the way I'm building this lineup, this also helps you
think that well, on a GPP side, maybe paying up
for Alman Ross Saint Brown might help out or something
like that. And guess what your boy, eat over. I
got you when we get to that section there. So yeah,
you want to talk about it, you want to flip up, Yeah,

(14:17):
yeah we.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Can in one second. But and when I say what
I when I play, when I play GGBPS, you want
to have good running backs and it's still you know,
you want running backs that are consistent. You want running
backs that are gonna score twenty some points. I'm not
saying some of those others. But you also, I like
to pay up. So he's about as high as I'm

(14:38):
gonna go with h with Cook this week, even though
I am debating uh Derrick Henry, but you know, I'm
debating Jonathan Taylor at the seventy five hundred. But we
talked about you know, he's the you know, he's right
in there Henry at seventy two hundred. That's cheap. And
and I'm really debating him because he is three fumbles

(14:58):
in a row, first time his career, three games in
a row, he's had three fumbles. Maybe at first running
back it was it was it's crazy. But Williams is
a good play. But yeah, you know, you know, I
like Taylor possibly, but yeah, those are the ones that
want those are the ones I wanted to talk about.

(15:20):
You know, even though the Rams are the first defense,
technically it doesn't really matter in this case because we
only it's a three game sample size. And look at
Taylor's numbers, uh seventeen thirty five DK points. So last
week thirty two, twelve, Week one seventeen, he's got sixty
attempts three or thirty. He's averaging one hundred and twelve
rushing yards a game, four touchdowns, and twenty seven Draft

(15:44):
Kings points. So again it's early in the season. Yeah,
the Rams have a good defense, don't get me wrong,
but it is on the road. But he's another consistent
guy right now. And that's what I like in GP,
because you want you want, you want high end, and
you want consistency. So in this case, I may just
go ahead and pay up for Cook and Taylor. And

(16:06):
if I'm playing Stafford, I'm running Taylor back against Stafford
like we always talked about run it back in the GENPP.
So that's that's why I wanted to talk about.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, no, I like it. I totally like it. And
we're not gonna we don't really have to get into
the Marie in Hampton because everybody's gonna be on him
as well too. Yeah, So that's all I said. When
you get around that six thousand range, it gets kind
of weird. That's why I like Steve saying pay up
a little bit, maybe just go to Taylor, try to
get that way, take that chance with a GPP lineup
as opposed to just being safe and playing it with

(16:35):
the Kyri Williams and the other people that I'm gonna
name when it gets to the ult contrarian lineup. Yeah,
and to add to that, you remember people in cash
games you're being quote unquote safe.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
You want to double your money. Maybe you play a
triple up, maybe you play ahead to head some of
the three man these other things where you want to
quote unquote play it safe. If he doesn't have a
thirty points, that's fine, if he gets fifteen to twenty points, right,
you know, But in GPP you gotta go for it,
so you can't. Yes, you can play value, guys, we
know that, you know, looking like Hopkins last week for

(17:08):
the Ravens, you know, two touchdowns, you know, like whatever
pricing was. But in you know, you gotta get maxillized points,
especially from your running back, so you want that high
ceiling you know in GPPs, and that's you know, hey,
I came in. I swear I came in last place
in one contest last week because you gotta go for

(17:28):
it in the GPPs.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
You know it is, man, Yeah, but that's what you
gotta do.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
So all right, well let's move along. Let's let's get
to the wide receivers. Let's get to it. Look, I
know this is gonna seem weird. I know this may
seem the little cliche, but I'm gonna say this right now.
This is the week that you play DJ Moore. Might
I say he's fifty six hundred on DraftKings, sixty three

(17:57):
hundred on fandle. I've been rolling Roma Dunes this whole time,
and now is the time to drop in the Dj Moore,
drop the dime, the quarter, the person who's about to
sleep break because when that happens, this way is gonna
go and change, just like everybody's gonna be on that game.
Like I just said about, you know, with the Caleb

(18:19):
Williams stack, they're gonna come back in with a doings ay.
I also, you know they might run with Cole Comet.
They might try to pay down at tight end, punt
tight end. That's something i'd like to do as well too,
But I got a couple of plays for that as
well too.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
What do you got to say, Well, you're absolutely right,
you could play doing day again. They're going, sorry to everybody.
I'll try not to do this for my phone next time.
You know, they're going against Vegas, which is like they're
not good defensively, and that's something, Hey, we admit our
mistakes here on Doctor Brodo is something I got wrong
last week. But I think it's a great play at

(18:54):
that fifty six hundred. You know again, I think you
can play them both. You know, there's some so I
think it's a it's a great play.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's it's it's olid. So like if you want to
highlight really of the targets that I'm gonna be looking
at right now, of course I'm gonna say it, he's
gonna make one of my lineups. Maybe he made both
of his lineups. I said it last week, I said
it again this week. I don't even care about his
quarterback c J. Stroud. Nico Collins hit the way he

(19:27):
needed to hit. He was like three percent owned. And
I told all of you that he was gonna smash
out and he's in another great spought this week. People
may not be looking at Nico. They they're gonna go
right up to Puka. But with Nico at seventy four
hundred on DraftKings right now, I'm I'm finding it hard

(19:49):
to not try to go back to that, knowing that
in that game, Tennessee, that this game is where the
division might end up going. These teams might need to play.
This is Houston, get right game. I promise you Nico
Collins is gonna score a touchdown in this game.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, that's a good take. I agree with you. He's
priced right, you know, and for a cash game, uh,
you know, he's sending four hundred. It's a little high,
but I think it's a safe play against the what
twenty eighth ranch defense right now? Against the pass. Yeah,
so that's a great play.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
It's it to me. I'm going in. I'm I want
that play right now, because again, it's another sway. Give
me that three five six percent own on a cash
game lineup allows me to be able to be different
on the fifty to fifties that are all single entry
that that can cash for us. That's the separation. That's
what we're trying to get here, and then again taking

(20:46):
that chance. If you have a little bit of cash
and you can get to him, he's worth a play.
And you're gonna see when I get to one of
my ultra contrarian lines to say, you're gonna be like,
wait a minute, how do they do that? Well, it's
very simple. I'm willing to take the shots or the
chances with my ultra controy lives. Is there any receivers
that you were looking at that you might want to
talk about, Maybe somebody like like I was looking at

(21:08):
like Keenan Allen. Of course I'm not looking so much
at but.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Go on, well, no, he's he's a decent play. One
of them is gonna be my fuego pick, which I'm
not gonna reveal just yet. We're gonna make even Heat
doesn't even know what it is. Today we usually talk
about it. He's gonna love it. But you know, seventy
four hundred, go ahead, that's fine. You can pay up
for him. You could pay up for Saint Brown Neighbors.

(21:34):
He's off to a really good start. Well last week
he didn't. But the you know, but I probably wouldn't
pay for him. What's Flowers gonna do is? Is you
know what's uh? You know last week was not good,
but the first two weeks he had nine targets and
eleven and because it was all Mark Andrews, Mark Andrews,
you know, came back last week. But here's yeah, that's right.

(21:55):
Andrews had a great gay game. Man. You know people that.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Last touchdown, well me so money on the fifty to fifties?
What was in it? Crazier? Like, I don't think a
lot of people know they really need to pay attention
to my to my articles. Like literally, I only missed
one bet yesterday I hit the Dermacado and Charbone parlay touchdown.
And I know there's no expert out there that gave

(22:19):
you dermaccato, So let me just brush that dirt off
my shoulder right here. Yeah right, And also I am
a killer for the first quarter. Parlays. Hit another one yesterday,
hit another one on Monday, hit another one last Thursday
on Sunday. I am just hitting it out. It doesn't
matter what happens to Doctor Roto doesn't need to stay

(22:40):
at doctor Rodo joint. Today. People get this money, yo.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Yes, that's right. But I'm going to talk about a
receiver that I think is going to be super highly
owned and that's way okay, it's way okay. Mike Evans out.
Mike Evans out. Yeah, Godwin is questionable come back this week.
I don't know if he comes back how effective he's
even gonna be. It's a Mika Buka. You gotta play him.

(23:09):
He had He has fourteen targets for his first three games.
Is a rookie, one hundred and eighty one yards and
three touchdowns. He scored two touchdowns week one, one touchdown
in the second week. Uh yeah, you know again, fourteen
targets and that's with Evans in there. You know what
I'm saying. Now you have hold on.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Uh I'll feel yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
So I think I think you're like, come on man, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
No, Sterling Shepherd, Oh, he is the most boring player.
If you play Sterling Shepherd, I hope you get one catch,
seven yards in touchdown. That's all you're getting. I don't
really care. Like Kate Auton might step up, but I'm
just not concerned to it. Get the ball to Bucky Irving,
get the ball to our guy, and let's make Steve

(23:56):
look like like, let's make him o rich friend.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going We're gonna make all of
you rich frends and listen, listen to this. Uh, he
is gonna be highly owned because there's because we we've
talked about him week one, we talked about him week
two and and we said they were going to try
to get him the borrow. He is a fantastic rookie
who who Now you got to remember, Mike Evans is
one of the greatest receivers ever in my opinion, probably

(24:19):
most people. You're talking, Yeah, you're talking Hall of Fame
receiver who's lining up on the other side. So now
the only thing I'm worried about is maybe him getting
double teams a little, But I don't think it matters.
He is, he is a superstar. He he's going to
be a superstar in this league. Get he's gonna be
highly owned. And that's okay, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Just just plug and play something. You got to eat
the chalk. You gotta eat the chalk. So in in case,
he's just gonna eat the chalk on this one. But
I will tell you when we get to the ultra
Conturian lineup. We'll have a receiver that we did not
mention talk about that. Let's move along to tight end. Man.
I'll tell you right now, I've been running this train
all week and long. Now everybody's gonna be on Washington

(25:03):
because it's it's a great play. But I'm going back
to Brenton Strange. He got six targets last time. That's
all I need for somebody that's super cheap right now,
and Strange is back to thirty two hundred on DraftKings.
He is fifty one hundred on fandel. I love five
thousand dollars range on FanDuel for my tight ends. He

(25:23):
is right there now. If you want a little lean,
if you want to lean on the tight ends, and
I'll let Steve, I'll let you take this off. Tyler
Conklin at twenty seven hundred is gonna be super sneaky.
The Giants are right around nineteenth rank against the tight end.
Conklin's being able to step in without Disley in the way.
This may allow him to get three to four targets.

(25:44):
If we can get two catches one touchdown to twenty
seven hundred at under one percent own maybe two percent on,
I'm gonna go under one percent. I don't think anybody's
gonna be rolling the tc BIB right, We're gonna be rolling, yeah, right,
rolling it. So what do you think about the tight ends? Man,
what do you think about those plays?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Well, you got me on Strange. You know, we've been
talking about him since week one. Four targets. Well we
two he had five targets, and last week he had
six receptions on seven targets and twelve point one draft
gings points. And so at that price at thirty two hundred,
is a great play. I'm not sure I would go down,
you know, I know Disley's out, but maybe that is

(26:26):
a good play. I'm not It certainly frees up another,
you know, five hundred dollars, you know, because if you
go Strange, Let's say I did go down to Conkland,
you know at twenty seven hundred in my lineup, it
would free up five hundred dollars. So that's a great play.
I like it a lot, But I like Strange. You know,
Schultz is in that range two again, he's kind of

(26:48):
he's still getting a target. It's got eleven targets through
three games, which is pretty good. Is likely back. I
don't think so, it's like he's still questionable. So yeah,
I wouldn't play likely. You could now, if you want
to pay up, you could go. I think you could
go back to Andrews. I think I think he could
have a good game. Laporta could have a decent game

(27:10):
the hours. You know, he's great, But I don't think
you have to pay that much. You know, he's fifty
eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
So what do you think? We got a question in that.
We got a question in in the chat right now,
all right, dere asked how do you feel about David Nujoko.
I will answer this quickly, quickly and fast, and I
will put it back onto you because I know that
you really liked nu Juco a couple of weeks ago.
So I love nu Juco. As a play thirty eight
hundred on DraftKings. I actually had some extra money and

(27:38):
I was playing around with a little bit of the defenses.
So I was popping down on there and it led
right to Nujuco and how do you not that's targets?
So I was like, okay, do I want to lean
this way? Do I want to lean that way? So
that was where I started playing with some of the quarterbacks,
and I said, all right, I'm gonna play this lineup
in this lineup. So yes, it's a good question about him.

(28:00):
So how do you feel about nu Juco?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
I like him too. You could play him in GPPs,
you could play him in cash. He's got seven targets,
five targets, six targets or twelve targets. Again, you know, people,
when we're talking targets for tight ends, you're talking not
unless you're the hy end target. If you get four
you know. Again, so when you're talking receivers, you want

(28:23):
you want those guys getting seven, eight, not you know,
those targets. But when you're talking, but you know, he's
got twelve targets one hundred and seventeen yards, and he's
going against Jeez Detroit, who is not very good against
the tight end. They're not very good defense. I mean
they're good, and they probably should be back. But I
think he's a great play there at thirty eight hundred

(28:45):
on DraftKings for sure. But I think you know, you know,
for for GPP purposes, I might just stick with you
with strange for right now.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, you know I like that, And I'll throw this
into everybody. And this is another six target. This was
another guy that seemed to win us some bets and
some parlays. Last week on another article, a familiar article,
the Fantastic Bets of the Day article was Noah Gray
twenty seven hundred is well too, man. You know that
Noah Gray is a big part of the chiefs now

(29:17):
Worthy coming back. We'll talk all about that like in
a second, because we did talk. I mean, we talked
a little bit about you know, if a lot of
people may be moving up to Worthy, they want to
see if he's on a snap count, he may not be.
Maybe this is where we go Hollywood Brown, but we're
kind of past that point. But yeah, yeah, I do.
I do like the sway to b I like this
way to Gray on that as well too, because that

(29:39):
gives you somebody people were trying to give you cheap
tight ends. Nudjuco is due for a touchdown right now,
all right?

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, And like I said, if you if what I
said before, if you freed up that five hundred dollars
from I forgot what I said before, then you could
go up from strange to the jogo.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
If you feel like exactly no, you're correct you're correct, right,
all right, let's the defenses. I'm telling you right now.
I simply love these guys. They can definitely get it done.
They're coming off a pretty ho hum game. And how
it's gonna be the Chargers. Chargers at thirty three hundred
on DraftKings and four thousand on FanDuel. Now, DraftKings thirty

(30:17):
three hundred is a little expensive. I got another defense
for that. It's gonna be the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yes, I
said to Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
I like the Jaguars, Yes, yes, But I was sitting
there in the Jacksonville Jaguars are like thirty eight hundred
on fandle and then the Rams are thirty nine hundred,
and I'm like woo.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
And then I saw the Chargers at four thousand. How
how can you you think that you're gonna you have
a home game jackson Dark A rookie is stepping in
against one of the better defenses in this league. If
he makes one to two wrong decisions, he's going to

(31:03):
get down and he's going to get trounced if they
get behind, And I do feel the Giants will get behined.
Maybe there'll be some garbage points for neighbors and dart
At the end, I have the Chargers winning this game.
I have the Chargers defense at least scoring above five
DFS points. It's a nice way. You're probably looking at
them being twenty percent or less owned. But the four

(31:27):
thousand on FANDO is so well worth it. But that's
of course, if you need the extra money, you'll fly
down to that. Outside of defenses, I already gave you
the Jags twenty five hundred on DK What do you
look at, Steve Well?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
So you know, we didn't talk about Mariota replacing Daniels
last week. He had a pretty good game, but he did.
But you know, is he you know, and we're talking
about paying down. Remember if you paid attention, if you
watched those the first few games, you know I always
talk about paying down for defense. You know, I originally

(32:04):
went with the Jacksonville, which you absolutely can play. Jacksonville
they're gonna have you can absolutely play them. I know
the Bills are expensive thirty seven hundred on DraftKings. You
don't need to play them. You don't need to play
the Ravens defense are expensive. Now, these are teams that
can score points and are good defenses, and yeah, you know,
everyone knows I'm a homer. The Ravens defense will probably

(32:25):
get better as the season goes on, like just like
you did last year. They've had some bad luck. Yeah, yeah,
and you know, but yeah, I mean and yeah. My
friend asked me, how come the Ravens have such a
hard schedule this year. I go, well, when you come
in first place in the division, you play first place
in the division team. So if you weren't aware of that,
that's how the NFL worked. And I'm like, so, they

(32:47):
have a really hard, hard schedule. They've had some bad luck,
they've had some mental you know, lapses and whatever. But
I don't think you need to pay up. And will
they have good games this year, absolutely, but you don't.
You don't need I can't even remember I want to say.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I mean Houston, Houston probably at thirty four hundred would
be the safest. Of course, we already know, as I
already said.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
In Oh no, the Ravens. I'm sorry, they were twenty
seven hundred, So definitely don't pay up for the Ravens.
But I meant, like the I meant the Lions for
thirty five hundred. You don't need to pay up. You
don't need to pay up for the Texans in GPP
shar sorry, but I wouldn't pay for the Ravens at
twenty seven hundred either, at least just yet. But I
kind of like, back to what I was saying, I
kind of like the Falcons. I like the Falcons at

(33:32):
twenty seven hundred at home versus Mariotta. They have two
interceptions in the year, three defensive fumble recoveries, and eight sacks.
I think I think for now I'm gonna go Falcons,
you know, at twenty seven hundred.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I like it. I like it. There's nothing wrong with
that pick at all. Actually, I want to say in
the Doctor Rodo staff league, one of the experts went
and picked up the Falcons defense today as a play,
so that that's just what we got, that's what we're
those are going.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
And if you're playing Robinson like we said, but you
can keep playing. I don't think we've recommended him to leap,
but you can you pair him up with the Atlanta defense.
It's now Mariota's going on the road at Atlanta. He's
a fine quarterback, but he's older. He's no Jade Daniels
that's for sure. And no, and I think he could.
You know, the defense could get a pick, they could

(34:27):
get a fumbles, they can get some sacks, and and
and they're that twenty seven hundred dollars is supposed to
paying thirty seven for the Bills.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, and this is a get right game for them.
This is this is a get right game because they
just got punked. Literally But I got punked by the
Carolina Panthers. And Bijon Robinson scores that touchdown. He cashes
a seven leg parlay touchdown parlay leg I had and
wins a lot of money for you know, he'd override.

(34:57):
But that's being said. We're gonna get to it. Let's
get to the end part of the show. Steve. It's
that time. Go ahead, give out your four, your core
four leading into your Flago pick of this week. But
before your Flago pick of the week, I'll have a
song for you. So go ahead and somebody your core four.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
A ha ha, my core four on DraftKings. Mind you
now again, remember I play all the other sites. Sometimes
you can hit me up with other questions for the
other sets. You can hit me up with pick six questions.
I might be playing some pick six. So look for
discord in the you know, look at a discord. I
might be playing underdog.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
And everyone's in different states, and certain people can play
this and certain people can pay you that. But you know,
we didn't talk much about the betting stuff, but you
can ask all that stuff in the Doctor Rotto Discords.
But so you asked me, I believe who my Fuego
pick of the week. Is? Is that correct?

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I said, who your Flago pick is? But who are
your core four league?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yes, yes, you're gonna love my Fuego pick. So this
is on DraftKings, my core four Yeah. Stafford, Well, yeah,
we're gonna go Stafford a quarterback. We're gonna go Cook
at running back, all right, We're gonna go egg Buka,

(36:21):
okay at wide receiver. And then I think you want
to get I'm gonna run it back with Taylor. So
if you're playing a GPP in my particular DraftKings lineup
right now. I got Stafford, Cook, Taylor, eg Buka, all
high priced players, well not Stafford. Stafford's medium, but you

(36:41):
pair him, pair him up with what's gonna be You're
gonna love uh Cook Taylor Agbuka are all. You know,
they may be highly owned. I don't think Taylor is
gonna be as highly owned against you know, Stafford, but
they're all. They're consistent. You want those twenty plus points
on DraftKings. So my core four Stafford, Cook, Taylor, Bukah

(37:01):
is my core four.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
I love it. Let's do it. Are you ready? You're
ready for the flag O pick of this week, Let's
do it. Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
If you've been paying attention, if you've been paying attention
so far, my man, he loves this guy. I love
this guy. It's hard not to love this guy. He
is so good, he's so young. Keep watching him. If
you want to guess, it's Tyrod Williams. No, who am

(37:35):
I pairing who with Stafford? That's right?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Why that's right?

Speaker 2 (37:48):
People, Now listen. If you've been paying attention, this guy
is so freaking good. Okay. He is the highest priced
on the main slate, and that's a reason he's probably
priced too low. At seventy nine hundred on DraftKings. He
has twenty Now, this is why we were talking about
the targets and receptions. Twenty nine receptions three hundred and

(38:09):
thirty three yards, which is one hundred and eleven yards
a game. He only has one touchdown, so watch out.
And he's averaging twenty six and a half draft end
points with only one touchdown through three games. Listen to
these targets eleven, nine and fifteen last week's fifth fifteen targets?

(38:29):
Are you kidding me? And he caught eleven of them.
He caught eleven of the fifteen targets. This guy is
so like, look how excited I'm getting. All Right, I
knew you love it. I knew you had already guessed too,
but you this guy is amazing. You have got You've
got to watch this guy play. He is so so like,

(38:51):
I'm getting chills just me. And he is so good.
And I mean, look at these draftking points five and
a half, twenty seven, seven and a half, twenty six.
He look at he's averagey twenty six and a half
with one touchdown and he's playing Indianapolis. So in my
lineup right, we already talked about running it back. I'm

(39:13):
playing Taylor already, so I'm running it back with Stafford Nikua.
If I'm wrong this Threek, people please tell me. But
he is going to continue. He is going to have
a phenomenal year.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Dude, He's gonna have a phenomenal year. But I'm gonna
check something. But I'm really, really, one hundred percent sure
that Kenny Moore second is out in this game. And
and I know he was. He was hurt and I
saw the doubtful tag on him, and I don't think
he's he's completely out. So now that secondary is either

(39:49):
gonna be man handled by Pooka Nukua or DeVonta Adams.
They're gonna be him manhalbled by both. It showed last
week that the Rams were able to man handle the
Eagles secondary. You think that the battered and beaten cold
secondary is gonna be able to handle the Rams right
now with coming off of that embarrassing double block return

(40:11):
touchdown should have be the Super Bowl champion Eagles. That's right,
it's it's it's it's not happening people. The Rams are
going to run through the Colts.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And Mark yeah, Mark my words, that's seventy nine hundred
draft Kings is gonna keep going up and up and up.
He's gonna be within a few weeks, he's gonna be
almost nine thousand, I think, because he's just gonna keep
keep scoring. I mean, he's gonna keep scoring the fancy points.
And again he's only has one touchdown, so he breaks
one here, he breaks them on there. All of a sudden,

(40:42):
he's scoring thirty something fantasy points a game.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah yeah, and you're at seventy nine one hundred right
now on DK. I mean, honestly, he should be You're right,
he should be around nine thousand. He should be the
well around the jamar chases around eighty five hundred they
see maybe playing with them, he should be five hundred. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
that's that price. I love it.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
And we talked about this early in the year. Maybe
the algorithms haven't adjusted. Maybe whoever, blah blah blah blah blah,
you know what I'm saying. But when you look at
a eleven game slate, I believe I think it's the
eleven game, eleven or twelve game, or maybe that's the
whatever early games, but it's eleven. Uh yeah, right, okay,
it's the eleven game slay. The highest and best wide receiver

(41:26):
is normally over eight thousand dollars, right. A guy that's
good averaging twenty six and a half points is probably
you could argue the best receiver in the league right now.
You could argue that, yeah, I mean people would say
Chase you could argue that too, But you could also
argue that he Nakua is the best receiver.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yea, truly, that's if this is what I'm saying, this
is what people like Patrick Mahomes or like Lamar Jackson need.
They need a Puka Nukula, That's what That's what the
Eagles have in aj Brown and DeVonta Smith. Can brag
and they can hate all they want on Smith, but
guess what the fact that you have that talent with
Saquon Barkley and Dallas God and Jalen Hurts. We said

(42:10):
this week one that that is too much talent to
deal with sometimes at some points. And that's what the Rams.
I mean, at ninety four hundred on FanDuel, at least
they got it right. He's one hundred dollars cheaper than
Jonathan Taylor, whereas Jonathan Taylor isn't even the most expensive
running back because they're playing the Rams. So that's where
you're able to find the DK value for the GPP plays.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Do you have any up for us, Steve, Well, yeah,
I do, and just to reiterate, you know, before we
get to it. And I know we're going a little
long here. You know, if McCaffrey is eighty five hundred,
if Robinson is eighty two hundred, then and you're talking.
You know, McCaffrey is McCaffrey, Robinson, best running back in
the league, arguably gives amazing running back, Barkley, amazing running back, Henry,

(42:55):
all these guys, and so he's he's priced higher than them. Okay,
which is fair. But but but you don't think he
should be the same as McCaffrey, you know what I'm saying, Like,
you know, Gibbs seventy, he is higher. But anyway, I
just say, I just say, Nkula nkula is. It's a
great price and expected to be if he has a

(43:18):
good game of this week, which he should expect it
to be around eighty four eighty five hundred next week.
And so here we go my draft James, my draft team.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Yeah, let me throw this in there. That's because we're
watching us and they're gonna be like, let's get our
let's get our numbers right. Because he'd override in fuegos
weave call us out on the Bird. Oh yeah, tell
them your lineup. We're getting to the Alter Centrians, all right.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
So here we go. Now this is DraftKings again. You
can hit me up with any other questions about anything
on football WNBA tomorrow, But here we go. Stafford, Cook, Taylor,
Eg Buka my core four right there, paying up for
all of them. Well again not for Stafford Nakula at
seventy nine. I'm going I think you're going to talk

(44:06):
about this guy Washington. We got Parker Washington on the Jaguars.
He had eleven targets last week eleven. Now he only
caught four, but that's okay when we talk about targets,
eleven targets is huge. He had five, but the week
before he had five and five catches for twelve DK points.

(44:29):
I think I like him, But that's what I have
for right now. I have Strange. I have the Falcons defense,
and the flex is where pay attention to discord. This
is where I may be subject to change, But right
now I got Hollywood Brown against the Ravens, his former team.

(44:50):
We talked that. We already talked about how the Ravens
defense is not doing well right now. They can give
up the big plays at home in Kansas City. You
already talked about my homes, Hollywood Brown. I think you
know that one week, you know, yeah, I think he's
he's gonna have a good game. But pay attention, Discord Jessic,

(45:11):
he said, change that. But that's my lineup for GPP.
We've got a lot of high priced players in there.
We got a lot of high priced players, and those
are the guys that can get you the twenty thirty
points a game. And then we got a couple of
value guys in there. And that's my line of it.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Man, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It's so amazing that the macho man ran and showed up.
Oh yeah, I think I'll get better at it.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Oh yeah, I'll tell you guys, Drinks and milk will
get the greedy going.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
On again to it a slim gin.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Let's get to it. Let's get to the ultruck contrarian lineups.
Oh yeah, we're gonna end up DK. First look, I
didn't want to run him back, but I'm gonna run
him back. Steve's all against him with the Atlanta train,
but I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take this chance.
There was some moving in this lineup because Once you
see the receivers, you'll understand what happened and why I

(46:06):
went down to him. Mariota, James Cook, Kyrie Williams, Nico Collins,
Alman Ross, Saint Brown, Quinton Johnston. Oh yeah, you're giving
me that. That boy is catching some balls out there.
He's gonna get some he's gonna get some damage done
this week. Watch it fifteen points every week. All we

(46:27):
need is at one hundred plus the touchdown. He's got
the skills. Brenton Strange. Tony Pollard. You all forgot about
Tony Pollard.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
We didn't mention it.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
We didn't have to. He's on the ultraterrarian lineup for
a reason, because Tony Pollard is the way you get
your rookie quarter back. Right If you don't use Tony
Pollard in this smash spot right here, I don't know,
but he's gonna get twenty carries. He's gonna get around
seventy to eighty yards. Let's get three four catches, twenty
yards over one hundred yards average, get one touchdown fifty six.

(47:01):
I think he has it right now on DK. That
is a smash spot. Of course. Jags defense one hundred
dollars left. That's your DK line up. Let's roll over
to them.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
I mean, let me just interrupt before you get to
your best one.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Ah on that one.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
No, I love it, number one, number one.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
But it's not that I'm against Mariota per se. I
don't think he's a GPP play. So remember he's giving
you cash plays. I'm giving you GPP plays. And I
think that he is a safer. He is a veteran.
He can he can get those points in cash games.
So I just wanted to point that out.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Continue well his No, You're right though. On DK, he's
definitely worth playing. On FanDuel, he's actually priced. There's a
couple of starters underneath him. You might want to sway
to those guys other than being on Mariota. Again, look, people,
let's just really call it what it is. You can't
get in bed with Mariota that much time before you
get something bad happens to you. And this is not

(48:01):
what we want. People. We gotta get out. But man,
I'm gonna do it this week just so I could
get im and rosst Browning exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
And I think it's a fine cash game play, absolutely,
And I'm looking at it from the GPP standpoint. He's
not gonna get your thirty points, I don't think and
on you know, he's not gonna get your thirty uh.
And that's why I'm looking at it with a different Remember,
pay attention, guys, because you can play cash games, you
can play GPPs. We me and he were like this,

(48:29):
you know, so pay attention, go ahead, do it.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
That's how we do it. All right, let's run Well
what before we say that too, I do want to
say we have a few compliments on the show. So
I do want to say that Danger came through and
he said he really loves what we're doing. He loves
the chemistry. Before I used to run through the show
in five to seven minutes. Now with you, you've been
able to give it a lot more context. We get
into the little discussions, a little more angle to it.

(48:52):
So I want to do say thank you for expanding
the show and being able to come on and put
up with all of the energy because that's what we do.
Oh yeah, now we ready for.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
The FanDuel lineup people, Let's hear it. Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
One's completely different. Kaylen Williams, Kyron Williams James Cook, Nico Collins,
DJ Moore, Quitness Johnson, Breton Strange got Tony Poller Chargers
Defense two hundred dollars left over. What do you think
about that one? That was the other play I was
gonna play Williams. I had, I had more in but

(49:25):
then I saw that I could get You can't get
the Almond Rossing Brown on FANDLE. I could get the
Almond Rossing Brown and Nico Collins, and I felt like
having both those receivers on DK was was good going
over with a FanDuel making that more cash. What do
you think, bro?

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I absolutely like it. And Saint Brown you could probably
play in the GPP two. I love that guy. He's
he's really good. But that that's a great lineup and
I love it. You know. Remember, just to add a
little quick strategy before we get out of here. You
play cash games to help build your bankroll to play GPPs. Okay,

(49:59):
this is how works. You take the safe place you
get in those what we talked about earlier, those fifty
to fifties, you double your money. You know what I'm saying.
He is awesome at getting you that doubling your money,
tripling your money the three that kind of thing, and
then you take that you enter the qualifiers if you
have a you know, not much, but if you want
to chance in a live final, but then you enter

(50:19):
the Milli Maker, or you enter like I'd like to do,
the single entries. Read those articles on our site. Single entries.
You know, three entry max, maybe even the ten entry
max and throw in a couple throw or three in
a ten entry max something like that. But you take
heat throwing up, you build the bankro and then you
go for the big bus.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
That's what we do, man, That's what we do with
Doctor Rhode. Man, another great show right now. We got
the UFC coverage on Get into Doctor Rhodo rate now
because I want to go in there and throw some
bets down. We got the main event coming up very soon,
Obert versus Rays. I know I'm speaking a little bit
of a different language, but Man, Steve knows the fire
that well. We've been throwing in that subcord in the

(51:01):
discord on that, so I love it. Man, Thanks again
for coting on Buddy Man.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
You got it. You gotta get in discord, ask the questions.
H W and NBA tomorrow. I think.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Have a great day everybody, and always remember pay.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Thanks for stopping by the office.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
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