The Ultra Contrarian Show | DFS NFL Week 9 - Bring The Pain

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Get out the insurance cards, get out the copays, the office.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
You know what you're off to you by doctor, get
off to it.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
What's up? Everybody?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
AT's eat over Rod and I'm ready to bring the
pain for you and doctor Rhoto this week. Yeah, it's
another edition of the Ultra Contrarian show.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
What's up Fuego Steve? How you doing today?

Speaker 5 (00:40):
I'm doing well. I'm doing well.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I guess we're doing another Halloween special. I don't have
much light again, but I'm doing well. I'm doing really well.
And uh uh, you know, I'm ready to get to NFL.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
My NBA players have been on fire.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I just missed the mains a little at eight o'clock
or a late night or showdown. But yeah, we've got
a great NFL week and we've been doing well too. Man,
We've been doing well at the NFL doing you know,
everything on the site is doing well. And hey, man,

(01:19):
just a shout up to my buddy Ted. There's no
racem F one, but there is next week. And he
was right on pretty much last week.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
He was you know, he.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Played a parlay which didn't hit, but his other two
money lines hit. So if you would have played what
he played, you would have made seventeen dollars. You know,
he didn't play that much, you know, so you would
have you know, he got his money back on and
that's what we do. You know, you try to get
the cash games. You try to get your money there
then do the parlays and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
So that didn't hit, but he was right on. So
he'll be writing again next week.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
If you like auto racing, you know F one is
taken over here there, Disney's buying you know, the it's
more popular than NASCAR now.

Speaker 5 (02:02):
So he was right on. Pay attention.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ted knows what he's doing, and me and Steve Bell
NBA and so yeah, but this is it's football.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
We're back.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, that's all right, that's all right.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
I always get to get my shares in, so that's
why I always love it when you when you can
bring yourself in and of course promote the basketball at
Doctor Rodo. Of course right now, code word Trevor still
gets you twenty percent.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
So you could be our rich friend.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
We have, as you just heard Steve talking about, we
have the right here for all of your fantasy needs.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Every single sport we're going to be hitting on.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
But he is right I'm pretty sure one of the
bets was one of the guys knit in the top
two for the race, and he will either the first
or second one, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
So for me, that's just awesome.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
It's right here he too, you know. And if you
read his article and then and then posted his his
line what he met in discord and right he hit
the first two so made his money, missed.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
The parlat snow came out on top. And that's what
me and you do. You tell people to play cash games,
you make your money, and then you go for the
g again.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
You know, even in NBA, man, I was on fire
last night, but wrong contest selection. I haven't been playing much.
I've been trying to be good. But uh, you know,
I'll probably step it up a little this week. But
you know, we and you got people thanking us. Uh
and again congrats to Trevor.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
But yeah, but l man, but right, uh, you know
you got to sign up. You have to sign up
because we we are on the money.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, do the If you just do the subsequently Discord,
you're gonna get enough but the full package to get
all the sports, the optimizers and also all of the articles.
You get so many different articles from seasonal to to
you know, Dynasty, you get Fantasy clown adds up in
there and then at the same time you get all
of the dfs, you get access on the discord only.

(04:10):
Doctor Roto comes in does the Start Sick Show on
Sunday mornings ten thirty am Eastern Standard time to noon.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
We answer all of the start stick questions, which there's tons,
tons of tons.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
We have had a flux of people just joining literally
on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Man, it's just and you know, just to get a
chance to get a.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Piece of all that action, all that theory going on
behind the scenes that leads to those one hundred k wins.
That's what it's all about at Doctor Rodo. And that's
what I love, love doing for all of us.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Sorry, I mean, if you haven't watched the show, me
and he loved to talk. But exactly, we're bringing in
people every day, you know, you know Ched and Steve
Bell my buddy, and you know, we're bringing in people.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
All the time to help you guys win. And I
know y'all like to ben your money.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
So you win money in football, you put it on
F one, you win on F one, you put it
on the NBA.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
You win an NBA, you put it on hockey. You
know how it works. We all know how it works.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
We all love to play, and I love to learn.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
You know, I didn't learning, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
So Ted's gonna write some strategy articles too to teach
you guys about F one if you're not if you're
not familiar. But I've learned so much just by hanging
out with him and watching it get He's been racing.
He's been racing cars since he's six years old and sweeten, so.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
He knows what he's doing. But enough about Ted and
all that.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Uh, let's get to this, Uh Halloween, specially in the
dark again.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Hey, it's okay, it's okay. Sometimes things happen, you know,
get in the other room. You want to make sure
that everybody is sleeping. You don't want to be too
rude and stuff like that. But at the same time, too,
we get the fun, We get the fun little facts.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
We have a really fun slated.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Wearing my raven stuff today. Proud of my boys from
the other day, what I say.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Of course, he didn't get two hundred yards, but Derrick
Henry did get two touchdowns, he did get two touchdowns, man,
And I know you was loving that Mark Andrews lineup
I gave out on the fight Club of Pain last
night because or on Thursday, because man, that that almost
thought it wasn't Friday because we've been doing them on Fridays.
But yeah, that right there, Andrews as captain, that was

(06:21):
a solid play for me.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
That's what I need.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
And then of course the Ravens defense and then working
in Henry but knowing that Lamar was going to go
off and having the piece of a change, just being
able to give you another cash game lineup that had
a chance to score some big money.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
That's right, that's right. And uh, hey, man, watch out.
That division's closed. Don't count my boys out yet. Don't
count the games.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Two games at the end of the year against the Steelers.
So anything can happen right now. And I think the
Steelers are going to try to get what was that.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yeah, it's a tight division. They're getting healthy again. Not
to be talking about my boys too much, but they're
getting players back. The division's tight, and don't count them
out yet.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
That's right, that's right, all.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Right, So as everybody knows what we do, what Steve
and I do, is Steve gives you a core for
and then is Fuago pick of the week.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I do reveal my macho bi week.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
If you have not caught any of the podcasts from
Doctor Retto or my Tuesday podcast, then you don't know
who my macho pick of the week. I will reveal
that right now is Comani Vidal. So we'll get there,
we'll put it in there and kind of work where
we're where we're at, so that like when you see
the lineup field, you'll understand why he's there, because there

(07:37):
was some chances I wanted to take this week with
a certain game and that's going to be mostly one
of my main stacks, and that's going to be a
big part of it. However, on Fandel, I like to
keep the lineups kind of close. But on Fandel I
did sway a little bit. I like this lineup a
little more. I wanted to be a little cheesy just

(07:57):
to make sure that we were rolling in those wins
and losses for all the wins for everybody.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
But we do, we do. We are accountable for our losses.
Let's Spencer Rattler a couple of.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Weeks ago, what about man, And I admit my mistakes
to last night.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I did hit five and six in NBA, but the
one player I had was off. But you know, and Joker,
I mean he had fifty nine and a half points.
Oh man, Like that's a when you're talking about a
bad game for a joke for the Joker when he
scored sixty.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
D K boys.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, you know, but you know I gave three plays
that you could fill in all did this? This guy
Johnson and he's great on Atlanta, you know the low wind,
and I.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Missed him one. And I admit it. We can't be
right all the time. Hey.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
We always say, if we're right, we probably wouldn't be
giving you advice.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
We'd be sitting on a beach somewhere.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's right, Yeah, And that's you.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Want to be right. It's almost impossible.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
So when when we hit four or six, we hit
five or six, we at you good plays.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Take it.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Take what we're doing. And this is what we're here.
We're here to teach you. But why don't we get
into some NFL.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
All right, let's get to it.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Let's get to the ultra contrarian show. Oh yeah, bro,
it started off with the with the quarterbacks. I don't
care what y'all say. I know it's a big game
and I'm going all out. I got some cheap options,
but I love my number one option, Josh Allen seventy
three hundred on DraftKings, eighty nine hundred on FanDuel. There's

(09:33):
ways to work him in. I love him this week.
This is a huge game against the.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Kansas City Chiefs. Right here, this game is gonna be
one of those games that.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Could determine home field advantage in the AFC, like everybody
has been talking about. Like everybody knows, but this is
this is when Josh Allen loves to shine.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
This is when Patrick Mahomes loves to shine. So you can.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Pick either one of these quarterbacks in this game. But
for me, I know that the Bills have been a
little shoddy on defense, and the way the Chiefs spread
it around, there might be some rushing touchdowns. So therefore
I like the action on Allen's side, and I can
get a lot cheaper from that. I'll throw in one
more quarterback and kick it over to you. The one

(10:20):
quarterback I do love this week that's that's cheap is
going to be Aaron Rodgers. I love him at fifty
to eight hundred on DraftKings. He allows me to pair
him with DK Metcalf. Of course we'll get to him
in a bit. But Steve, what do you think about
the plays? And who are you looking at this week
from your gangle?

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Well, you know that game's a huge game, the case
Buffalo super High. You know, Chris Kennedy mahomes one, Allen
two in his rankings. You know what I'm saying, And
get over rankings. We've got more than guys. We've got
two guys in the top twenty. But I'm just looking

(11:02):
at Christian's right now. Personally, he's got my homes Allen too.
You know, I love those plays if you want to
pay up, if you want to pay up, you know
me in GPPs, you know.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
And I like Rogers too.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Like Rogers is a really good play at that price,
even though man, you know that's a good play. But
the thing about Rogers for GPPs, he doesn't have that
ceiling that I'm looking at this year, it doesn't seem
like it.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
I mean, he averages seventeen and.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
A half, but twenty five, twelve, twelve, twelve, seventeen, twenty
four to sixteen for GPPs, I'm not looking now my
homes and those guys do have those feelings, but my
home bounce, you don't know so, but I love those
high end pits and again, but you know who I'm
looking at for me personally.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
That who's exact guy who you looked at my brother.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Is Daniel Jones on the Colts. Okay, he's averaging twenty
one point one DK points.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
He's going up against.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
The other side do not have a very good pass
defense that I'm aware of, uh, And look at his number.
He's averaging twenty one point one, but he's got twenty nine,
twenty five, fifteen twelve, sixteen, twenty three, twenty two, twenty three,
So I can save that money, you know, instead of
playing Mahomes, I mean Alan Mahomes.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
You know any of those guys I like at sixty five.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
You know I like Stafford too, but yeah, I don't
know about you know, I like Stafford, but you know
I'm looking at Daniel Jones. And then you know who else,
Jackson Dark Baby fifty two, d K fifty two, one hundred, Okay,

(12:58):
so you know he he's number nine, and Chris Kennedy's
ranking two hundreds, and I like some of the receivers,
So I like, dark, you know, I have fifty is
a great price there, you know, and then if you
want to pay up into the sixty two hundred of

(13:20):
the way, you can go with Jones. That's what I'm
looking at.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Oh man, dude, I'm like, while you're sitting there at
this thing, I'm looking at the numbers and I'm like.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Oh look UFC bang hit it.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
You got it, dude. I love all those plays. Yes
I have, But what's up what we're saying? I was
gonna say, I said, I looked at Daniel Jones. I also,
I just know that eventually I feel that eventually steal
the Steelers are going to get this thing right and
they're going to shut a team down.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Is it this week? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
But the thing is is I kind of want to
I'm trying to stay away.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
From that game, but I do love that game.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
So I love Jones in that game, of course, and
I love Pittman in that.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Game, and he's He's.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
One of the one of the receivers that I was
able to work into a couple of lineups. I keep
coming around that that that price level, and I know
a lot of people are jumping down to downs. I
love Pittman because Pittman has been getting the work done recently,
and for me.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
That's what I need.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
We're going to talk about him eventually here for sure.
You know, you know, I just I just don't think GPPs. Yes,
those guys have that sas, but I'd rather say a
thousand or two thousand even you know again, Jackson Dark
at the number nine, you know, you know, uh, you know,

(14:47):
Drake May's number four.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
But I'm not loving May this week. I just I don't.
I don't know why I'm not loving May.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
I agree with that game.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I don't like that game because Atlanta has just been
all over the place and every time they get punkd
they run a back.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
Solid next week. But this is in this is in Foxborough, man,
and I just love it. And the's too hard nosed
defense kind of going.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Even though Atlanta kind of got torched up a little bit,
they're better than that. At times, they just literally they
fall off the wag. They literally just fall off the wagon.
They like ride Bijon Robinson until they get drunk and
then they just completely go could put and then they
get back up and they try to have this game
so they know that they have to get Bijon Robinson involved,

(15:30):
because that was the thing is when this game, when
their last game, when that started running away, they just
stopped using Robinson and that's what led to where they
were at.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
So and they just you know that, to me, we
don't want to get we don't want to get Bijoned again.
But at the same times, I don't trust that environment.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
So I'm practically staying away from that game because I
feel that I can find better value.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
In other places.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, and I'll tell you I like Stafford too, but
they're favored by four.

Speaker 5 (16:01):
No, you know, do they get up and run the ball?

Speaker 4 (16:04):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree with that. All right, Well,
let's move along to running backs. Since we're talking about him,
I'm wearing the shirt of the running back I'm gonna
be talking about.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It's Kyron Williams.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
Kyron Williams at sixty eight DraftKings eight thousand on fandle.
The Rams are coming off a bye week. They literally
have the Saints coming to La. The Saints are in
complete shambles. Spencer Rattler had literally he fell off the
roof the buff He's he done fell off the horse,

(16:38):
right and the Rams defense is going to feast on shuck.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
It's not even gonna be this game.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Like now, I will say this before anybody gets a
little crazy. The Saints Ken sack Matt Stafford. They can
make this game very hard. So that Saints defense. I
am playing them in a couple spots because I feel
that the Saints can work in of Ken work in
one of those slow moving Ram games and where the

(17:10):
Rams kind of disconnect. Puka's gonna get his boom, then
Kyron's gonna get his. But you could get one of
those games where you get the Rams winning late in
the game, Kyron gets down to the one or two
and they're either kneeling on the ball or they're giving
it to Blake Korum, or they're throwing.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
It to the four string tight end or Davis Allen.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
So this is where one of those games might just
get a little weird because of when Marz knows his
team has a significant advantage, he exploits it and then
he pushes it down so Kyron can go off or
Kyron could. It could implode for sixty eight yards in
one touchdown. But that's what on Fandel the eight thousand

(17:51):
that makes it a little harder to pay for as
opposed to on DraftKings, where it'll be sixty eight hundred
people may be on him, but you could still get
him anywhere from fifteen to twenty percent. Of course, other
running backs, you know, we will talk about the other
running backs.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Who do you like? What do you feel like? Well?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I do.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I do like Williams as well, But again, what happens
in that game?

Speaker 5 (18:17):
You know rams are fair up by fourteen?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
What if they're up by twenty something and they start
pulling starters? You know that that makes me a little nervous.
That's why you know, I like Stafford, but he hits
Nakua a couple of long.

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Ones, then they run with you.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
So I'm I'm not quite sure I do like him though,
don't get me wrong, I love him.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
He's your bouto.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
But yeah, I'm just saying that the fact that they're
favored by so much could very well play.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
He said.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Nkua scores boom boom, and then.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
You just feed Williamsweed, William Sweet, Williams Thillims, which is
one reason I'm not sold on Severate. But it could
be they could blow him out forty five to seven
and everyone could feast.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
You know.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, you're right about that. You are correct about that, man.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Because sometimes McVeigh does get it.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
It gets out of hand real fast, defense gets a touchdown,
you could be looking at thirty thirty point, you know,
deficit at that point. But I want to say that
the Saints might have a strong I just don't think
they can. This is not the game you roll, you run,
you know, shuck in there right now. You don't run
him in there right now. This is a team that

(19:28):
is designed to destroy the quarterback. And that's why the
Rams defense is going to be literally it's one of
the most picked up defenses this week because it's literally
going to be. It's it's the Rams are going to dominate.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right all.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Right?

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Which is another thing about scares.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Excuse me, man, what if they get a defensive touch
of one, if they you know, so, he could for GPPs.
It makes me nervous, uh to do that. But I
do like him. He's eleven Chris Kennedy's rankings. He's really good,
and I know you love him, he's your boy. I
like him too, But in GVPS, I'm I'm just nervous.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, so we'll throw in there, you know there's
there are ways to work in Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
I still like Jonathan Taylor against Pittsburgh, but at.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
That price point, I know that a lot of people
are going already down to McCaffrey at eighty eight hundred.
I do like Gibbs against Minnesota. I think that this
is a big game for Minnesota and Goff always plays
great at home, so you're gonna look at Detroit, come
out and try to punk the Vikings really fast. And
I think that you know, when you have an eight

(20:38):
thousand dollars tag on Jamier Gibbs and he's coming off
a thirty plus point game, it's it's almost easy sauce.
But for me, I love Williams. The Manto pick is Vidal.
People are going down to Manga. Why mamma guy monag
mamma guy mana guy.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
They're going down to him. He is very super cheap.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
They're also running to Some people are trying to be
smarts and go with the Devin singletary, but everybody's going
Tyrone Tracy. He does have a place for that in
his game, to pair with Jackson Dart.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
But for me, if you're gonna do that, just.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Go get go get mongs right, or just go up
to my guy, Chase Brown in the same game, because
Chase Brown, no matter who's the quarterback, can still produce at.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Least fifteen points. He's fifty nine on Draft Kings.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
And if he and if for some reason Flacco does,
I mean, I assume fact Flacco's gonna play at this point.
If he plays, he is going to produce. He will
open it up. They will be scared about Chase. That
is Jamar Chase and Higgins. It's gonna open up the
It's gonna open up.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Everything underneath, just like exactly. And you can get Taylor
in your lines if you want.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
But I kind of agree with you on the McCaffrey thing,
which might lead to some of my plays here.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Yeah, hey, that's that's that's why we put it together.
And again we're gonna give out those lineups at the end.
We will also give out a DFS Hero simulated lineup
because DFS Hero does a lot of work. They were
just on the show today with Doctor Roto Live on
Sirius XM. That's seven am to ten am on Saturday,
so you always want to check out Doc there as

(22:26):
well too. Also DFS there, Yeah, twenty off if you
use the code word doc that DFS hero to get
some of their great tools. So we'll give you that.
They literally just redesigned from at least from my apps point.
They just redesigned their website where it looks a little different,
so it looks more Christopher cleaner. So when you're seeing

(22:49):
moves like that, you definitely want to get all in.
And that's what I'm saying. That's that this is the
partnerships that we do with doctor Roto.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
And I'm gonna start mentioning them in my article as
well for NBA because I'm getting in there, I'm gonna
start using their optimizers and we're gonna see, Hey, I
may not always agree, but sometimes I may. I'll let
you know. And that's the thing, you know, that's why
we do these things opinions. You know, they say about opinions,
you know. So yeah, that's right and exactly, and so

(23:24):
I'm going to start mentioning them in my articles. I
may agree quite a bit because dfszro is good. I
may disagree, you know, and then you can decide, you know,
I have a feeling I'll agree quite a bit but exactly,
you know, you can use that code, you can get
in there, and I'm going to start mentioning them players
they like and I like together.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
So yeah, yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
That's this is what we do.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Like I said, this is this is all the tools
you get and all the information that you get from
Doctor roto just from listening from doctor to Doctor Roto
on Sirius XM to listening to coming into our discord
to doing everything together. That is everything you get. Plus
all the podcasts are free. You're getting your free information

(24:08):
and then you get in there and you get to
ask the questions. So let's get to those wide receivers
because there is so many.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Real quick, real quick. I know we talked too much.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Like you said, McCaffrey, I'm going to pay up for
I'm going to pay up.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
I mean, he didn't have a great week last week.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Going against Houston, only eight attempts twenty five yards.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
But if you look at the before that, they're insane.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's averaging twenty five Draft games points a game and
that's with a nine point eight twenty four two twenty three,
one hundred and forty times touchdowns. I'm loving him at
that high end. And you mentioned another guy, Chase Brown.
I love it on DK McCaffrey Brown line up again

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if you want to pay up the extra for tailor Kimp.
But like in that lineup, if you're running dark, for example,
you run back McCaffrey me up at eighty eight hundred.
I like, you know, And if you haven't listened to
me before, I like paying up for running backs, especially
if they're dominant running backs, you know. And then you
can pay eighty eight for McCaffrey, fifty nine for Brown

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going against Chicago Brown, he's starting to get it going. Man,
now again what happens with Chase and and those guys.
But Chicago's not very good run. He had twenty five
point five t K points last week, twelve attempts, seventy yards,
three receptions, three targets, thirty two yards with the touchdown.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
So I definitely like Chase Brown.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
And then, you know, just just real quick, and docs
talked about him.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
You mentioned him, and we're gonna keep talking.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
About him, at least for now. By now, he's clienting tennis.
See his numbers last last week twenty two point seven
twenty three times one hundred and seventeen yards a touchdown,
one reception on two targets ten yards. He's coming on
twenty five point eight in week six and only seven

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point five and seven and then twenty two. But he's
he's really good and he's only sixty three hundred on
t kill so he's in YEP.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
And then we make Warren. I think you mentioned Warren
on Pittsburgh. Kind of a tough matchup, but you know
the price is right. You know the price is right.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
And then you know, you know McCaffrey number one in
Chris Kennedy's PPR rankies.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Jalen Warren for Pittsburgh number seven, you got Vadal number ten,
you got Lawyer Wis.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
So there's a lot of these guys.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
And you got Chase Brown, like Chase Brown at that
price in a PPR.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
And I remember people I play out of DK.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
You know, I do do a little uh. I just
like DraftKings better personally. But anyway, you know by now's
number ten, your boy Williams eleven, uh.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
And Chase Brown's fifteen.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
So all these guys were talking about in the top
fifteen and Chris Kenny's PPR rankings.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
That's right, That's it.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
And and that's and and look, so everybody, this is
the thing. Everybody is gonna talk about a lot of
the same people. But that's what we try to do
on the Ultra Contrarian is to move while people are
going over to mont and guy, we're gonna stay stern
with Vidal. We're gonna stay stern with Chase Brown and

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Kyron Williams. So that that way that for at least
for the cash games, that allows me to get to
other players. We will talk about that when we give
away the Ultra Contrarian lineups at the end, after we
get through all the Steves and everything like that. So
you have to stay tuned, people, This is not a
one trick pony show. You get a lot of information,
a lot of game theory, a lot of numbers, and

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a lot of shit talking.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Whoah, yeah, that's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Go ahead, let's continue, Let's let's.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Get it all right, yeah, because we want we want
to make sure we get these in.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
And if you listen, last week, I thought Heat was
gonna beat me in our IDP league and I came
back and beat him.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Sorry Heat, Yeah, hey I still held on man, But hey,
it's a hard league. There's a lot of good people
in that league, and a lot of teams are right
around five hundred, and it's a two point system under
the sleeper rule, so we are good.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
But man like ten and two or something.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Hey, whatever it is, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
I'm an IDP league, so listen to heat if you're
an I D B league.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yeah, this is what we do. All right. Let's get
to the wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
We are looking at Khalil Shakir. I am pairing him
with Josh Allen. He's going to be roam in the
middle of that field. He is literally the blanket for
Alan right now. And I know that a lot of
people are going to be going with King Kaid. We
will talk about him in a little bit, but Shakir

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at fifty three hundred on Draftking sixty.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
One hundred on FanDuel, I want to play that. I
know that people.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Are already looking forward to playing maybe Keyon Coleman as
well too. But here's the thing is, with all the
other receivers out not being able to suit up Gabe
Davis for this and Palmer being out as well too,
that is the key. So that's gonna funnel everything into
Shakir in the middle of the field, whereas King Kid

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usually catches those little outs by the sidelines.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
So that's going to open him up too.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
So I will say there is a chance for King
Kid wheell route tight end wheel route touchdown that he's
gonna pull off. So when it happens, make sure you
guys know who you heard that from. However, as well too,
Shakira is going to be working the sidelines like a madman.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Also, so for receivers, I do love Puka Nakua.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
I'm not scared. I think that he's gonna definitely get
his work in. I have been hovering around Brian Thomas Jr.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Everybody isn't gonna play Brian Thomas Junior.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
But this Vegas game with Bowers back, Bowers is gonna
make that.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Game flow a lot faster. And that is Geno Smiths Cape.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
That's that's his little blanket, that's his Linus Blue blanket.
So when you put all that together, you add in
Michael Pittman Jr. And then if you want to get crazy,
everybody's been doing this. Calvin Austin sitting there, people are
wondering which one. But now that we have seen Roman Wilson, produce,
score a touchdown and get and they in Wrogers and

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Wilson haven't had a full connection yet.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
When that game happens, you want to be on him.
He's thirty three hundred.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
I love finding those cheap receivers that we could work
into places.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Steve Cagoda from there, who you looking at it?

Speaker 1 (31:01):
And Hunter is now in the ir Unfortunately he was
starting to play a little bit better for Jack.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
I like that Thomas play quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Because everybody's thinking Washington.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
They're all going for Parker Washington because they want the
salary relief.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
He's good, but yeah, you know exactly, you know, but
we are Man. We think of like you mentioned Pittman Man,
he's fifty nine hundred on k last two weeks twenty
point eight and twenty three point five. DK points Pittsburgh

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again once we mentioned that they're not very good against
the past.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Again, we're not sure how this game.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Maybe it's a Homer pick, but Pittman, I mean, how
good is Michael Pittman And at fifty nine hundred, fifty
nine hundred, I mean if you look at Chris Kennedy's flanking,
I want to call him c K because I got
a buddy c K. But you know, let's see, you know,
Pittman's fifteen, you know, which is higher, by the way,

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Brian Tom was seventeen. But I really, you know, at
that price for you know, fifty nine hundred for twenty
some points on DK, I mean that's I'm not sure
why he's that low. To be honest with you, I
love Drake London again.

Speaker 5 (32:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
This guy, he's really freaking good. San Francisco last week
did not only only four receptions, but ten targets.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
You know, the week.

Speaker 5 (32:36):
Before sixteen targets. I think we talked about him.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
He had thirty four point eight DK points going up
in New England.

Speaker 5 (32:44):
You know, I like him.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
But another guy I really like, especially if you're playing
the dart lineup, is Wandale Robinson at only fifty one
hundred on DK.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
I mean he's been playing well, get him up now.
He's a little bit lower.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
He's number nineteen on the rankings. But you get the
So I like Bittman, I like Robinson. I like your
guy Thomas Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Drake London again, he's not that expensive. And if you're
playing Brown, or you're playing Flacco or you're playing any
of the let's let's.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Say you're playing Brown, you know, run it back, you
know with uh, you know, something like that.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
So you know you could pay up for some of
these guys.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Of course, Jamar Chase, Uh, you know on Nikua Saint Brown.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
You know, Rice has come back really strong.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
So if you're targeting that game, which is a really high,
you could play Rice, you know.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
But uh, you know, I like I like London, I
like Pittman Robinson. Uh.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
And then like if you're playing like in that Daniel
Jones lineup, I.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Threw digs in there.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I'm still not Gigs goes back and forth with me again,
and Atlanta's got a pretty good defense. But but I
like in that one Jones lineup, I do like Rice
against Bubble back really strong, really strong. Yeah, now he's
gonna be I'm sure, but twenty three and twenty five points. Uh,
he's averaging twenty four point four his last two games back.

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I know Mahomes likes to spread it around. He's definitely
the number one in KSE. So I really like Rushi
Rice too as well.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
He is.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
I'm everybody's gonna be running the hunt in that game
as well. Too, and I can see why. I think
you could get I think you could get a little
cute with Smith. I think Brichard Smith definitely has a
role in this game. They're gonna need him because they
don't have Pacheco. Here's the thing, I'm gonna tell you
this right now. Hunt has been getting banged up. He
had a lot of rushes the other week or just

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on just last week, and he had scored right so
he's taken those extra hits. He was taking the goal
line hits. He had to take on the extras role.
He had to be the Pacheco. Now he's a little
banged up, and here we're going into a big game
that we need the fast, fresh running back that can
catch passes out of the backfield. I would not be

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surprised if, for some reason you see Smith in the
backfield a little more than Hunt at times, especially if
he starts getting hit a little more banged up and
then starts, you know, gets removed from the game. I'm
thinking there's a there's a pathway. There's a pathway. But
I'm not that crazy, and I don't need to go
play with Smith. Maybe in a showdown slate there will

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be a Showdown slate. This would be a fun game
four Showdown slate. So that's definitely a big thing.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Man. I like all those plays. I definitely rolling.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Definitely want to keep this thing rolling as well too,
because when we get to the lineups, there's gonna be
some receivers that we're gonna look at. And like I said,
we're looking at Parker Washington, people are looking at Josh Downs,
people are looking at some of these players. But when
you brought a Rice, there's a reason you brought up
Rice because he is the one player I trust in
that game on Kansas City and he did make the

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one He did make the ultra contrarian lineups. So that
being said, that's what I'm looking at. And that's why
I think that him Kelsey are really big keys for
this game. Because if this becomes a shootout one of
those twenty eight thirty eight games, thirty five thirty eight games.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I don't think there's gonna be enough time to focus
on the running.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
There's only gonna be gunning, and that means that the
passing game is going to be boosted.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
So you want to be part of that, and you
want to make sure that you have the right angle.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, you can play Worthy, play zabier Worthy too if
you wanted it, you know, So yeah, at it all.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
Right, let's move along to tight end because we need
to save money for all these players.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
And I don't really care.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
He's back, Bryce Young is back. That means Jatavian Sanders
is going to be in play for me this week.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
With just Jatavian Sanders. What he is doing right now
now is sneaky.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
And he's at twenty eight hundred on DraftKings and forty
eight hundred on Fandel. Now on Fandel, Colston Loveland is
forty eight hundred as well too, So there's your sway.
You have Colston Loveland, a you have Gentavian Sanders, both
at that same price. Now Colston Loveland is thirty three

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hundred on DraftKings, so if you're able to work it
up to that point, that is definitely a good play.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
Also, Noah font is another.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Sway that I've been looking at because a lot of
people will be looking at Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
They will also be looking at Dalton Kinkaid because Kinkaid
will have a role in this day.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
But I just feel you're safer for a cash game
lineup with Kyle Pitts getting all that work as well too.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
I do like Bowers.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
My number one tight end this week for me, in
my opinion, was Tyler Warren.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I can't I can't pass it up.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
But at fifty five hundred because the Steelers' linebackers cannot cover,
so that rate there and Kyle Duggar is a great addition.
But for me, he's always been a great safety. But
he's not gonna be.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Able to to get everybody's back.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
He's not gonna he's gonna be over here while the
linebackers are letting up Tyler Warren over there, so he's
not gonna be able to be in the same place.
People need to think about that thing too. It's not
just about the play. I mean, I know people think about, oh,
look at the Steelers and getting torched and stuff like that.
The Steelers still have some good corners and they still
want to hit, but we need that That center of

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the field sucks and Patrick Queen has not been that
dominant Patrick Queen. They've been running plays away from him,
other teams that is, and they're they're making him isolated.
So when he's isolated and you're exposing the back end
of an already heavy pass rush, there's nobody there.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
To back it up.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
And that's what led to Shaun Elliott being able to
get so many tackles.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
But now he's gone.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
That's Tyle Kyle Duggar's thing, and that's not gonna that's
not gonna work out well for them. And that's why
Tyler Warren's gonna be a huge play. And that's again
comes back to Michael Pittman, because I don't if if Ramsey,
Ramsey's probably gonna be on Pittman. That's probably the best setup,
But most of the time they do like to go slide.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
If Slay is on Pittman at any point, they're gonna.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Go to Pittman when Slay is on him. They don't
respect Slay. Not a lot of people are gonna respect
Slay after all the tackles he missed last week and
has been missing over the last couple of weeks. He's
a great player, not the best tackler. And they have
and the Colts have some mahass running down. That's my
play for the Tyler Warren. But I'm saying, I gotta

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keep it cheap. I gotta go to Tavian Sanders because
I need that twenty eight hundred or I'm gonna be
going up to Like I said my guy Colston Loven,
who are you looking at?

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Yeah? I love Warren.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
This is actually one week I would pay the what
is he fifty five? I think on Uh yeah, he's
he's fifty on DK. This is a week I would
pay from. I mean we were talking about tight ends,
but you know he's averaging thirteen point eight four touchdowns,
five tarkis, five tals, nine time players.

Speaker 5 (40:08):
He's getting sorry getting the text.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Uh you know, so this is uh and and you
know he's one of the highest ones.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
And I always talking about paying down in GPPs.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
I also have a lineup where you can lineups again,
that's how you can win GVBS.

Speaker 5 (40:23):
I do like Warren quite a bit this week.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And you know he's really high flex and tight end rankings, so.

Speaker 5 (40:33):
I love him.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Uh you know some of the cheaper guys I like,
how about THEO Johnson for the oh you play dart,
you compare him up. He's having some really good games
right now, you know, uh yeah he is.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
And you know again we're talking too.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I just want to throw that exactly four, seven, four, seven, five,
the last you know, you know? And again now he
he may not have and actually he does have that
ceiling for GVPS. He had twenty one point three in
week five fifteen point six, a couple of weeks ago.
And then when we've talked about it, unless you are
you know the craft, you know, who's the guy in

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thirty six eight deep well, you know or Warren or
the other guy this week Gadson. He's expensive, but he's
a good to play fifty three, So this is a week.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
I would consider paying up.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
But I like Johnson on the Giants. Uh, you know,
if you're playing dark you know what? Once again maybe
sure all the Johnson sold on another Johnson.

Speaker 5 (41:40):
I like the Saint Johnson we've been talking about Juwan.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I mean, he's averaging nine point seven his targets eight
and seven to ten point three, twelve point nine, he's
gone one, two, three, four.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Five of.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Do they have a buy? Wondered they were?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I have of eight weeks double digits for a tight end.
That's amazing, have that many touchdowns. So I like him too.
Again at the lower end you could play, even though
you know my feelings. I like Pits for sure, Kincaid Hunter,
but you know, Gatson's a guy if you wanted to
play up for you could.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
But you know that's who I'm liking.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Yeah, I agree with all of it.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Man, you hit a lot of those targets right there,
and I think you can really keep it. I do
like your Johnson sway too. You know you get to
say that. So practically, there was a lineup that came in.
I couldn't get to Colston at thirty three hundred, so.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Guess who was there? Johnston.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
So Johnson being there was a really big play for me.
So I was like, all right, cool, let me play
with that. But at that point I was like, all right,
what's it goin again? He's gonna get more targets than
Sanders and more work. So for me I wanted I
was like, all right, well, let me see what I
can get in and kind of sway to so that
kind of like puts me in the defense because the
site's got a little keener with the defenses this week,

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so you're gonna have you can't just go down because
if you're gonna go down, you're playing the Saints defense
and you're hoping that well, I was talking about earlier
that the Rams might just slow this down. Pooka gets
a touchdown, Williams gets a touchdown, our Puka.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
And Adams get a touchdown.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Then Davis Allen gets a touchdown, and Williams goes nineteen
for eighty with two catches for fifteen yards, and then
you're kind of left without that touchdown that you needed.
But you only paid sixty eight hundred for him, so
you're almost getting your value rate there. But on the
defensive side to save money. I'm looking at the Raiders Jacksonville.
You never they're like the jeck Lin Hide. Jacksonville good

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could show up or Jacksonville bad could show up. And
when you're traveling on the road, you did have that
off week, and the Raiders constantly play these really close games.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Now they just got pumped by.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
The Chiefs, but that's the Chiefs, that's not the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now,
of course the Raiders were able to punk Tennessee. Indianapolis
smashed them. They have been getting smashed. But when they
played New England at the beginning of the season and
then they played the Chargers like the Chargers, that's what
I think that this game could do. Jacksonville's gonna come in,

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slow it down, try to throw deep to Thomas. The
other guys that don't normally get the work, like like
Parker Washington, are gonna do small little screw ups. They
can't rely on Hunter Long at tight end, and they
don't commit to Travis atn consistently enough so that to
me and the Tuton's gonna get to play, They're not

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gonna be able to get warmed up. And I think
that that's what makes the Raiders defense intriguing. Now if
San Francisco imploded because of the pass rush in New
York for the Giants, I do like the twenty four
hundredth way, and then the Saints are twenty one hundred.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Those are the main defenses.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I'm looking at other than of course the Rams, that's
my number one, and then outside of that, I'm kind
of just like.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
I don't like anybody else.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Who do you got, Well, Chargers, Lions, you could play them,
pay play any of those three. You know they're they're
more expensive side. But if you know I'm liking I'm
liking the Texans. I like the Texans at twenty nine hundred.
Uh going to Denver, they have eight interceptions, three defensive

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fumble recover, sixteen sacks, averaging nine point four DK points.

Speaker 5 (45:26):
It's at home in Houston. It's not in.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Denver, in the where people get all weird with the
air and blah blah blah. You know, yep, so I
like the Texans. I think you could probably, but that's
you know, this is not a week that I'm going
all the way down. I'm not gonna play the Panthers.
I doubt I'm gonna play the same thing. I'm gonna
play the Vikings versus Detroit. Uh, you know, Tennessee. You know,

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so I don't think I'm going not good giants for
San Francisco Vegas. So we've talked about how we like
to pay down. I don't think I'm going all the
way down this week. You know, for that, maybe you
could play Atlanta Bengal.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
You know, if the Steelers, you never know a lot.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
No one's gonna want to play the Steelers going up
against the Colts, right, you could play the Steelers and
hope for you know, they have twenty two sacks this year,
twenty two sacks, five interceptions, five five point seven that'll
get you a.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Really low owned.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Now they had negative four points last week and one,
but they also have had three weeks ten, you know,
and they have no touchdowns.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
I remember we talked about, you know, when you're playing
in these things.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So I could play the Steelers. Hey, you want to
take your chance on the Bills. It's going to be
a high scoring game. But you know, you know they
have twenty two sacks. You know, it's not like you know,
And I know Mahomes is great. I admit it, you know,
even though I hate him, but I don't hate him.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
I respect his game. I just as a Raven fan.
But you know, the Bills had seventeen points last week.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Now there was versus Carolina, but they have twenty two sacks,
three interceptions.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
My Homes you know he can move, but you never know.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
And they're only twenty eight hundred like Texans. And then
like you said, yeah, if you want to pay up
Rams thirty nine, Chargers thirty eight mins thirty seven, it's maybe.

Speaker 5 (47:34):
You could go the other way.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
But I like, I'm liking the Texans personally. Actually, I
did pay up for the Lions. I did pay up
for the Lions. You know, they're they're they're COVID against Minnesota,
who I.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Don't know, you know, and that's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah, they have twenty three sacks, seven interceptions for defensive
eight point four.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
We know there are a great defense.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
So you could if you want to pay thirty seven hundred,
like this is one of those weeks where we talk
about you could pay up for tight end, you could
pay up for defense because you have some of those
lower running backs in the top ten.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
You have some lower on I'm not lower on, lower price,
lower price resiver.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
So this is where if you want to pay up,
I would be okay with that.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Lion st Yeah, I mean, look the.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Week one and two in week six six, But besides that, eight, eight, nineteen, ten,
and twelve are some big numbers for defense.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
So let me argue with that. And I agree with
one hundred percent with the Texans.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
They haven't they've they They've scored five points twice this season,
five points against San Francisco, five points against Jacksonville, which
is the think.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
But even against the Rams they had six points.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
They score points, they're off people might not be playing them,
and that gives you your edge right there.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
So yeah, what's up? I was gonna say, there's another thing.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Rams are one, Lions are three, Denvers five six, you know,
Texans elevens.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
But go ahead, what were you saying?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
No, that's that's practically it.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
That's practically It's just the Texans are that team that
could be only ten percent owned and that you could
play them on and that that game slows right down.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Then you're good.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
If that's one of those nineteen sixteen games. You win,
you win, get a couple of sacks, and then you
go from there. That's what I'm that's what I'm looking at,
and that's what I think that you know, that's that's
where if you're going to pay around, that's near that
twenty eight hundred, twenty nine hundred. That's about as high
as I'll go other than going up for the Rams
because I'm a Rams fan. I mean, I'm just wearing
the shirt because you know it's great.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
So you know, all right, that sounds good.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
We got the defenses covered, we got the tight ends,
we got all keys covered to the lineups.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
So we do we do. And remember.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I've had just FYI, people had a rough day a couple,
a couple of rough days, couple. So I'm going to
give you my best chance here, but check discord.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
In case it changes.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Last week it changed and I got in there and
told people, hey, don't play this guy, play this guy,
and it worked out.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
So you never know. We're doing this Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
I do research until all the time, you know, so
what I give you never know.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
I could change my mind because you kind of convinced.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Me last week about or I don't remember which week
was about going with uh I went a dunezay when
Hubbard was coming back, and then I changed it to
I believe I changed Williams on the Cowboys and he
went off. So just keep in mind crazy week, especially
with NBA, you know, focusing on that as well, so.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
Changes. I will definitely let you know.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 4 (50:59):
That's why I got keep your eyes on the subsequent
discord doctor rodu.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
And I'm everybody NBA code as well.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I got one uh uh, well, I'll make sure it
still works with that with doc.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Let's get to it.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Let's get to the fuegos core four.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
All buddy, who's your four this week?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
This is it's so tough, and again we've talked about it.
We got buys, we got injuries, we got fill ins.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
So it's it's, it's, it's.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
It's a tough one. But I think you go McCaffrey
against the Giants. I think you gotta go, Hey, the
eighty eight hundred, he's gonna do well. You know, we've
been playing the Giants defense because they've been so low.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
I don't think that's gonna happen. I know it's in it.
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
McCaffrey is you know, you know, he's not even he's
not even rushing getting that many yards rushing. But we
know how his his target you know, you know, so
like last week now that was his basket. Well we
you know before that twenty four to seventeen blah blah
blah blah, you know, and his targets so are just crazy,

(52:12):
six eight, eight, six, eleven, fifty and.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Seven ten targets were a running back that's insane.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
It's more than the receivers. Yeah, you gotta get him
in there.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
And you know, you know what is the last year
two years ago, always hurt? Is he going to come back?
He's gonna do well.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
He's back and he is playing great. So I'm getting
McCaffrey in my core for oh by now, get Kimanie
but now.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Doc likes him.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
I think our whole website likes him, the whole industry like, hey,
but that's okay.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Sometimes you do have to play the chalk.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
So eat to eat the chalk.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
Eat it at sixty three hundred. Get him in your line.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
He's probably gonna, I mean, he's gonna have a really
good game, and then if they get up early, they're
just gonna feed.

Speaker 5 (53:08):
Him the ball. Twenty three attempts last week.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Before they lost two weeks ago, so I only had
nine attempts. So if they get up, I'm looking for
that eighteen twenty twenty five attempts, mate, So I'm getting
him in.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
My cory all day. I'll pay sixty three hundred for
that all day.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
All right, he's the next guy, Oh my next guy here?

Speaker 3 (53:36):
All right, hold on here, what.

Speaker 5 (53:45):
You're waiting it? Can hear me? Hear?

Speaker 3 (53:48):
He kind of broke up there a little bit. It
broke up a little bit. But you're back, you're back,
You're fine.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I'm throwing up a question someone's asking fantasy.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Yeah, yeah, go on, Daniels, I'm going Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I'm gonna put Daniel Jones in my lineup at that price.
At sixty two hundred. I'll save the money from my
homes and the bills. He's coming against Pittsburgh. Call it
a Homer pick. I don't know, but I think he's
gonna light him up again. He has had no less
than twelve DK points. He's one two, three, four, five

(54:27):
games over twenty, averaging twenty one one two thousand passing
yards already thirteen touchdowns to three interceptions, throwing at eighty
six rushing yards to boot.

Speaker 5 (54:38):
I'm putting Daniel Jones in there.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
I'm putting them in and then, you know what I'm saying,
put them in your lineup?

Speaker 5 (54:46):
And then what am I gonna do?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
He's been paying attention to the show. Who else am
I gonna put in there?

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Michael? Michael Pittman?

Speaker 5 (54:56):
You could put them both, but I'm pairing them with Pittman.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
You know, Yittman fifteen point seven six tds uh four
hundred and forty six yards, you know. So I'm gonna
put Jones in my lineup, uh, you know, and I'm
gonna pair him with Pittman. And that's my core for
right there. Jones, Pittman, Jeffrey.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
And what I say?

Speaker 3 (55:23):
But yep, yahel.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
Now now, I'm I would pay him with Robinson, you know. Uh,
but uh that is, and so what we need my
Flago pick.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Pick of the week. Let's go for the.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
What's it gonna be? Maybe I should have gone McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Uh maybe I should have gone I don't know, but uh.

Speaker 5 (55:52):
My Fuego pick of the week. What's it gonna be?
What's it gonna be? I think I'm gonna go with
Drake London. Let's do it Drake.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
London, right, He's he's playing at sixty four hundred thirty
and sixty nine yards.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
He only has two tds. Again, those targets are insane.
Ten sixteen, ten, eight four fifteen.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I think he gets it done this week. I'm going
to get lineups, you know, now, pay attention. I could
put mccaffree there, but I like Drake London. He's gonna
be my Flago peak Flago pick. I got him in
a couple of lineups.

Speaker 5 (56:34):
You know, you could go Rice. I mean, honestly, I
think Rice is.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Going to have a game versus Kansas City, which he's
in one of my lines. So you know, again I
don't know, but you know, you could go with Dunday again.
But for now, the Flago pick of the week Drake London,
stay tuned, pay attention and discord in case of changes.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
So that brings up a couple of questions and then
we'll get to your lineup. Then of course the DFS
Hero lineup. We want to get this thing go. So
this guy wants Dons A or BTJ. Here's my opinion.
You give your opinion real quick. I think that Dons
is safe. I think he's definitely there. This is one
of the games that I am looking at targeting. Like
I already said, as you get to the Machio pick

(57:21):
or the Ultra Contrarian lineup, you will see that. So Fantasy,
if you're still in here, thank you for popping in
asked this. Sorry we did miss those about twenty minutes ago.
But we get into our little modes and stuff like that.
And so that's my opinion of those two.

Speaker 5 (57:34):
And I forgot to do my chat up again. I
like him too.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yes, he's number ten into Chris Kennedy's PPR rankings. I
love him and he's in one of my lineups for sure.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
Actually, I'm looking right at.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
That's the way we do it. That's what it's just
like you said, great minds the thing. And then he
also asked Brissett or Stroud. So I've got this feeling
about Stroud and meek O'callins because Collins is finally back
and certain is not there. Denver hasn't had to deal
with last year's defensive MVP not being on the field often.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Now you're getting a big alpha receiver a quarterback. They're
at home.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
I don't think Jadaya Baron is ready for what Nico's
callin speed is gonna do, and I don't know if
that's gonna be a big thing. So for me, I'm
i'm gonna say, look, Brissett's playing Dallas, that's your safe play.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
But if by.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Time you need a big hit or you're losing, say halfway,
and you get to that that Houston game, then go
ahead and just go with Stroud and hope that I'm
right that Nico Collins breaks free and gets a long touchdown.
Buffs those stats get twenty twenty two. But Stroud did
lose a game by five points for me a couple
of weeks ago, and it sucked.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
So that's that's why I said, sometimes you gotta be safe.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Yeah, And that's just a reminder of people try to
have a short memory. I Steve Belly in my site.
Make sure you get over read his prop picks. He's
doing well as well for NBA. Yeah, he says, I
get tunnel vision. Well, you can't have tunnel vision, but
you can at the same time because if you like
a player and he's great, what like he says, Oh, you.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Got tunnel vision on Wemby. Well, Wemby's joker's aesome, you.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Know, I mean, how you heroes?

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Oh Trey Young, Willmans, Oh, I'm getting updates. Oh Trey
Young out at least four weeks. Uh for Atlanta, keep
playing Johnson, start playing Tyson Daniels as well.

Speaker 5 (59:40):
But anyway, we're talking football.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
But you got to get into that scene because I
don't even know what's going on to that. So who
is your what is your Fuego lineup of the week?

Speaker 1 (59:53):
All right, I'm going to give out and this is
a mixture and again with NBA starting, we've got a
whole bunch of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
So if you're gonna go with my one of my
lineup too, all right, it's Dart at quarterback, Brown at
running back.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Heay up for McCaffrey, Drake, London, Hitman, pair Dart with
Robinson and the tight end on the Giants. Okay, hope, hope,
hope that McCaffrey goes wild.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Hope that Dart has to keep throwing. So McCaffrey keeps running,
Dark keeps on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
So Dart's gonna Johnson and then badal At running back
and then Texans d Now that's zeroed out.

Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
But that's one of my lineups right there. I really
like it. And then the other one is the Daniel
Jones one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Okay, you go, you go Jones, you go Warren coming
and running it back versus Jones, you go Digs. I
like Diggs, but I'm gonna have to think about Diggs.
You go a Dune day, you go pair Jones, Hitman,
you go Johnson for News at tight end, then you
go Rice, throw Rice in it flex and then go

(01:01:04):
Texans defense again. So I like make sure of my picks.
I might, I might try to work with these two lineups.
I really like that's.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
That's that's beautiful. I love both those lineups. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
You got your Colts on side, you got your you
got your Giants.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
On the other side.

Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
So let's get to let's get to the DFS hero
stimulated lineup. We got Dart McCaffrey, Mom Nagai, we got
Chase Zacchius, Pooka, Nakua Johnson, Tracy Falcons defense.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
That's a nice lot.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
I like it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
I love that they got Chasing Nukua on that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
That that is great. Yeah, and and and and that's
a really good line up too. That's a that's a
great way to get those both in there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
And then you know, we've talked about this, I at
least believe wide receivers now it's at a GPP run up.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
Is it? It's just the optimizer, does it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
How much you know I got to get in there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Yeah, it's it's got a one to fifty two. So
that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Because and wide receivers, you know, I don't know if
we've talked about they may they have some of the
higher ceilings if you're not like one of these dominant
running backs because wide receivers.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
Running backs don't usually break.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
A seventy yard pass, I mean a seventy yard run
for the most part, unless you're some of these top guys.
Wide receivers, though, they can get two catches, go for
one hundred yards and you know, a touchdown and your
golden So that I love that line up there with
getting chased in the cool he's got your boy, he's
got in chase, and that's a great I like that line.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:45):
The only thing I would change off of it, I
would take Zactius out and I would.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Throw a Roman Wilson. I I it's a tick for.

Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
Attack, but I trust Aaron Rodgers before I trust Caleb Williams,
especially if you listen to the Hard Hits review on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I tore Caleb Williams up and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
I'm just done with the dude. So we're not gonna
be playing those games. But guess what, now it's time
for that to part of the day. It's time for the.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Ultra contrarian lineups.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Got the macho pick with the commanded Vidal, Yeah, made
it a little exquisite with Dallan, Yeah, But we're gonna
be running.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Into the tough stuff. The caream always rises to the top.
The macho man's about to unleash on this DFS sleep
And when we get done with.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
This, we're gonna look at the competition oh yeah, the
little competition. We're in the Fannie packs putting the tail
it in and waved their white flag when they pulled
out of the Feny pack.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Because the Ultra Contrarian lineup, it's gonna freaking sleigh this week.
Let's get to it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
Josh Allen, this is DK Josh Allen, Kin Williams' Kimani
v Dahal. We got Rashid, Rice, DK Metcalf, Khalil Shakir,
Tatavian Sanders, bro Chase Brown.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
I'm going Raiders defense. You can mess around with whatever.
You got it twenty five hundred boom Vandel I'm sip.
I took a little sip. Josh Allen, Kyron Williams.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
We got foot Doll, Rice, Shakir, Pittman, Ken Kaid mona
guy and Giants defense.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
I just had it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
It's the trust. I'm hoping I'm gonna get rand whatever.
I'll take about one point two points with the Giants defense.
But if they take that game over and I can
get some points like up on this in this lineup. Booms.

Speaker 4 (01:04:40):
You heard it on the Ultruck Contrarian shows.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
I don't know if it was me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I love him and I don't know if it was
me or stream Yard or whatever, but you might want
to give that DK one out again.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
I didn't hear it all Oh, okay, well let's go
to it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Josh Allen, Kyin Williams, Vidal, Rice Metcalf, Shakir Sanders, Trace,
Brown Raiders Defense. I'll run it back, Fandel Allen Williams, Okay, yeah,
you got it, all right, all right, got it? Just
to make sure, because you know, sometimes we can't control everything.

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
We just go live on here and it was chill
in people checked make sure.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Yeah, yeah, so you got that. Those are your numbers.
This has been another great show man, But I got
the main event going on. I had a five leg parlay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
I have.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
I had a five leg parlay going.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Into this last fight. I think that the favorite might
have been losing. He was a focal point. I don't
know if he lost, but it was no it's a
six leg parlay, had five wins on it going into
this match.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
The match is over. The next matches on. That is
the UFC content that we're giving.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
I've already been hitting the parlays all day long, so
you're gonna want to get over to doctor Rhoto, right,
now use co word, Trevor, get twenty percent off and
get into the u FC channel because we're gonna watch
some knockouts here real soon and you want to be
on the winning end.

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Steve, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Late night NBA lineup that too, that too, that too.

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Because I'm gonna be putting some stuff up in there too,
and I might even look at NHL.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Heck, that's what we do.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Let's go win some money, brother man, have a great one. Always,
what's up?

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
I said, let's do it, and I know people love
listening to us. We'll try and make it shorter next time.
But we love to talk, don't we.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Yeah, we talked, but hey, you know what we try
to We try to show the everything angles.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
We put the story out. We put the story, We
build the story. We give you the lineups, and that's
the story behind the lineups. That's all we got, people.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
We're just trying to make for a frame.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Is I listen when I go to bed, and then
I wake up, and then you know what? You put
all the information together?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
How you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
All? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Have a great day, everybody, and always remember in the
pers thanks for stopping by the office.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
Get your fantasy prescription by subscribing to the channel and
checking out doctor Rodo dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Know the next visit, Be well and take care

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