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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You know, I always got there.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Get out the insurance cards, get out the copaide, the office,
my friends, brought to you by doctor.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's heat over ride and I'm ready to bring the
pain for you at doctor Rhoder this week for some reason,
that was one weird little load.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Up and a lot of things going on. Oh yeah,
what's up? Fuego Steve, how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm doing great, my friend, I'm doing great and nice
relaxing em me last night when I went to a
concert with my best friend and it was great.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
And yeah, I'm just ready to get into the NFL.
I'm freaking I'm ready for NBA. Uh you know, just
so everyone knows, I'll be getting articles in for NBA.
But if you checked the Discord recently, the very first game,
you know we did. We played the show down. We
did great and uh playoffs heating up. I did a
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line up yesterday. I put it in Discord. If you
guys would have played it, you will warn a lot
of money because I killed it.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
But I'm ready for football.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Uh, everyone, you got to pay attention to this show
me and he know what we're doing.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
He's going to give you the cash. I'm going to
give you the tournament lineups.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And just so everyone's aware, the Fuego pick of the
week was the highest scoring player on Draft Kings last week,
all right, so I just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Ashton Jetty was up there. Ashton jet he was up there.
But I'll give you.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
He a little wound. But where you really excelled at
with Stafford?
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah, well exactly, and that amazing at thirty draft games points,
you may was he the highest scoring quarterback in TK?
If not, he was for certing close at three and
three to five percent, which is Naku was thirty to
fifty percent. Because of course he's in the we talked
about we love them, but when you pick Stafford, that's
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what gave you the advantage. All of my picks were
pretty fire. All your picks were pretty fire. So this
is what we talked about. Now we're starting to get
in there's injuries, okay, now we got to see who's injured,
who's the backups, where the regulars are now starting.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
To feel out the new team.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
But here's where we're going to start to get into
the season where you really got to pay attention to
those injury reports.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
You got to see you know.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Uh, you know that's the best thing about the NFL
compared to NBA, which NBA you got jump until tip off,
you know, to see if they're hurt. At least now
with the NFL, they give you time and say they're questionable,
they probably won't play, and we have an idea of
someone's gonna play. But now is the time of the
year where you really got to start k paying attention
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to his injuries. Mark Jacksons, with some other names that
are hurt.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Oh my Ravens. We're not gonna talk about them right.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Now, but but this is the time they're gonna die.
I'd you through the next few weeks, which as we
start to get it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
That's right, man, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, if everybody just jumping in right now, doing it
a little early on a Saturday, because I'm gonna be
all crazy, and then of course you have seed out
later because we have amazing UFC coverage going on at
Doctor Roto right now. The stoop Can of the Week
and the five Tastic Picks articles just went live a
little while ago on the actual website. Also later today,
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all of the experts picks for the DFS Slate will
be out, so you definitely want to get there and
check everybody's articles out as well as Steve's picks in
the DFS and betting NBA channels as well as the
other channels.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Steve is at a one trick PODi.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
As he was talking, he loves the NFL, he loves
the NBA, but unfortunately for me, NBA is unless it's
late night NBA because a game lock, I can't do
it because I'm always at karate.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But hey, we're here to talk football today. We're here
to bring the porn for another Ultra Contrarian.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Shoo ooh yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Let's do it so like, I'll just give it a
quick you know, you're getting the Ultra Controlla lineup. You're
gonna get Steve's core four and his flag will pick
of the week. Again, I don't know any of that.
We had talked a little bit about mine, so there's
some players on my lineups that Steve has not learned yet.
So at the end we'll throw it together. We'll also
give you our dfs limps, because that's what the Ultra
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Controlleran lineups are. One FanDuel one DK cash game lineup
and then we'll give you an optimizer lineup as well too,
as Steve's lineup as well.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Man, but man, murdy, you dive. Let's go.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Quarterback CJ.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Stroud fifty DK sixty seven hundred on Fandel, I am
patiently waiting with his boy to get that explosive game.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
But at fifty two.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Hundred, I'm willing to take that chance again because I
hope that he's stunking up for everybody enough so that
I could get him.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Under ten percent. Steve, what do you think about the play?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I definitely like him in cash games. He's going against
a depleted and you could probably play him.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
In a tournament. Two.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
He's going against a depleted Ravens secondary. Their whole defense,
or not their whole defense. But they've lost a last week.
They got destroyed an injury department. You got a one
cornerback or safety out, maybe two. Rokwan Smith's out, Kyle
Hamilton's question him. They don't know if he's gonna be playing.
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So you know, I the Ravens are in trouble.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
I need to say the score.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
They're going to need to score.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
But hey, you know what, I am a Cooper rush backer,
bro like, I'm gonna sit here and I'll stand on it.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I f had Cooper Rush and that curse is real.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And the Ravens figured out why having Cooper Rushes your
backup quarterback is a good thing but also is a
bad thing because that means your starting quarterback can be hurt.
And Dak is with that, Dak is healthy. Let's knock
on Wood if he's in your fantasy teams. But man, dude,
I think this opens up Zave Flowers and Mark Andrews
like forever.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Bro Yeah, I think Andrews will have a good, good game.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Flowers there'll probably lean on Henry. They don't get too
far behind. I mean they're gonna have to. I mean, uh,
he's their superstar. Now that Jackson's not playing, he might
miss a few weeks and so so you know, Rush
is gonna probably lean on Andrews, Uh, lean on Flowers Lean.
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They're probably try to keep take as much time you
and give him to Henry. But but I do like
him in cash games quite a bit. At that price
on draft game, you know, is a really good price.
I mean, and you probably could play him in tournaments.
I'm not going to play him in a tournament.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
I don't. I don't see the outside.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
And then what I do see is if they do
get up, they're not gonna want to keep throwing, you know.
So I think it's hits to depend on the game flow.
But I do like that a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
In cash game, and I'm gonna say this, this is
where again me going back. This is gonna be one
of those GPP plays because I do trust in Cooper Rush.
He was nine of thirteen, he had fifty two yards
and he was able to complete a fourteen yard pass. Now,
usually with Cooper Rush, it takes him a game to
heat up. But with him coming in and being able
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to do that and get a little game action, I
think he should be fine this week.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I think he's going to.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Show a lot of people what skill set he brings
and why he felt that he needed to move on
from Dallas because he really does want a starting job,
but unfortunately he's not a starting quarterback. He's exactly where
he's at right now, and it's a perfect scenario for
him to flourish, and he's probably gonna be under two percent.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Uh Cooper Rush, Yes, yes, Cooper.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, he will probably be the lowest thrown. But he
also may score the lowest points.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
We don't know that.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
He is not He is not Blake portles Bro.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
He is not anything Dalton bro.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I'm not saying that, but hey, you know, hey, if
he gets into flowers and the open, but you know, hey,
if Derrick Henry, I mean, geez, we don't really spend
too much time with Ravens with but if Derrick Henry
busts a couple, he won't even have to need to throw.
But that's gonna be an interesting But it's a great
price forty three hundred for coop of Rush too, man,
and geez, he'll be way low.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And if you really want to mess with the rest
of your life, you know that.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Yeah, yeah, but uh you know, uh, you know for GPPs,
you know, there's a few guys I like. If you
want to talk about who's probably gonna be the highest stone,
He's probably gonna be justin fields.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
He's going to have a great game.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I have him in my lineup, at least in one
of my three. You know, we always talk about I
like the single entries, I like the three max and
you know, five macs, so I usually do one to
three lineups. So I really like Fields. He's going to
be highly owned, but that's that's for a reason. You know,
he's going up against Dallas. He's got the worst I
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think pass defense right now currently. After missing three, Fields
came back last week with twenty eight point one Draft
Games points. He was twenty for twenty seven for two
and twenty six yards in a touchdown, and he ran
seven attempts for eighty one.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yards and a touchdown. You gotta remember Fields can run
so yet.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
So I really do like Fields quite a bit in GPP.
I think you could actually play Prescott. But in that
lower range. You know, you said Stroud, but Fields fifty
six hundred, you got Joe Nicoles at fifty eight hundred.
I like Kyle Murray at fifty nine hundred. That at
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six thousand, you know, Jackson's the highest on TK who's out.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Then you got Jayden Daniels. Shouldn't gonna play Jaydon Daniels
on the road at seven thousand hurts, you know, going
against d Denver pretty good. I don't think sixty one
hundred golf sixty five may for sixty three, but it's
about last week. A lot of these guys are averaging
around eighteen twenty points do you have to pay up
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with think they're going to have a five touchdown type game.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I don't see any of those guys doing that now.
I would play Herbert for.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
I think. I don't think you need to go above
that six thousand dollars. Murray. I really like Murray.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I like and again Fields will be highly owned, but
he's gonna be highly owned.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
For a reason.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I agree with all of that. What you just said,
those were my targets, of course. I before we started
the show, I said my three definitely, you know, I
started out, I said golf, but golf is kind of
just keeping it safe, So I would you know, I'm
not gonna play golf because if it does get into
a running game with money going home and everything like that,
and then coming into town and sendency, they're gonna they're
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gonna get to that point where they're not gonna throw
the ball. And if they go into that, then you
paid up for sixty five hundred for golf and you
should have just had really both running backs.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And that's just what I want to stay away from.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's what kind of scares me about aman Ross Saint Brown.
But with the work he's been getting over twenty points
the last few games, even going over thirty, you know,
and being recommended by us and being able to get
in those lineups last week is what led to another
great week for me.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Cash games three one on both sites for the year
this year. So I get it. I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I think we got the low range, but now we
have money for other positions before we move out.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Is there anything else you want to talk about?
Speaker 5 (12:08):
You could play golf, you know, and you know jayde
and Daniels he.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Very well could be the highest scoring quarterback this week.
But at seven thousand, if you look, you know, if
you drop down Saint Murray fifty nine. You know, according
to our projections on Doctor Roto Jade Daniels twenty point six,
Kyler Murray nineteen point four, that's only a one point
difference for eleven hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Then Daniel Jones, he heard it, Fields fifty six.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
You know, Bonis fifty seven, Gino Smith even at fifty four.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I don't know. If you got Bryce Bryce.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Young, you could possibly play Bryce wrong and I had
forty seven hundred, Uh, if you really wanted to save money.
So when we were talking quarterbacks, unless you know, we
have that feeling. Like I did about Stafford last week.
I had a guy's gonna go off. You know they can,
you know so, but you know I like all those guys,
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and you know, golf should be low ow and you could,
but I agree the running game is what I'm gonna
target in that game.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah. Yeah, Speaking of the running game, let's move along.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
The highlighted player, My highlighted running back that we're gonna
talk about, start it off, and then we're gonna go
for there. I think is a musk own right now.
Of course he's going to be higher owned. But like
we said every single week, the one thing the Ultracontrarian
Show has been able to pick out is those names
everybody says they're gonna play, and then we play them
and they're twelve percent owned. So we're talking about Presaul
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fifty six DraftKings seven thousand on FanDuel. I will pay
that all day for somebody who's probably gonna get five
to six seven targets out of the out of the backfield,
even the last he had a great game last week,
as well as his boy Wilson. I'll highlight him too,
but we're gonna stick with the run. The running backs
for right?
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Now? How do you feel about Preestall?
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Well, you know I like him a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I have him in the our our I D P
League and uh and now that once his face is hurt,
you know he like that.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
That's what they're worried about. You know they're gonna take
someone now. You know, now he starts to breze Hall
is gonna get the touches. Uh. You know our boy,
let's see our boy, Chris Kennedy.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Uh, he's got him uh as his six ranked running
back in a full p p.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
R this week. Uh and at that price, that's great. Uh.
And he's a great play you can play him with.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It leads you open. And I don't think we have
to pay up for running back.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Now now, I mean I do like Gibbs, which were
in the seven, but you got you got other guys.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
Let's see.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I'm gonna take a quick look over here on on. Uh,
let me just go the pricing real quick here.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Yeah, you got Taylor, Taylors, you know John to Tell
amazing at.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Eight thousand, but you need to pay pay that you
got Gibbs. I really like Gibbs this week. I'm thinking
that I am probably played pay up for him.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
You got Barkley. But you know, the one guy that I.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Like is a Chain on Miami at seventy three hundred DK.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
You know, he's projected from twenty points going against Carolina.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
He's at the higher end, but that's okay. And but
then when you get you get into the middle range.
You know, if you're playing fields, you could play you
could play Javonte Williams on the Cowboys. But Breist Hall
at fifty six hundred, you know, it's such, you know
for value is really ill.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
But another guy I really like Scataboo, Baby Scataboo. He's
six thousand, six thousand, Uh yes, exactly. And you know,
when you're looking at running back list full p PD
p p R, let's see Chris Kennedy's got him his
number thirteen, number thirteen.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
At that price, that's a really good price, you know,
whereas you know he's got seven thousand, you.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Know, so save the thousand, go for Scataboo.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
But you know, Hell's a great play in both GPP
and you know, cash games. But I really like the
Miami running back. You don't need to pay for Tailor.
You could always pay for Taylor, But I like Gibbs.
I really like Gibbs. I think a lot of Montgomery,
but I think Gibbs is gonna have a great game,
and I think Barkley might have a decent game.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
But I still am not I don't know if I'm
gonna pull the cherry. I am gonna play him this year.
I'm definitely gonna play Barkley this year. I'm still not
quite ready.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
But you know our other boy, your boy Mario Marion Hampton.
He's a great He's let's see santasking here. Let's see
his place on TK.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We got thirty points last game, thirty point five, twenty
four point. For that, they're giving him twelve A teams
averaged over ten plus.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
He's going to be the third highest scoring running back
at sixty five, So why are you gonna pay for
and score eighteen points? Now, again, these are projections, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
But if you're just by that, all the other people
at that range are Tailor eight thousand, seven thousand for
a chain, seventy seven, Gibs seventy five, Barkley, he's right
in there at sixty five, and then Javonte Williams sixty two,
and then you know, Henry seven thousand and resold fifty
six hundreds, So I'm.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Not sure we need to. You know, we've talked about
paying up, but I don't think we have to.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Go to Taylor or any of the higher guys.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
When you got these guys that should.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Have good games exactly and you know, a sneaky guy
and he didn't really work out too well for me
last week, but you know, he was under three he
was three percent owned.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Was Tony Pollard? He put up his twelve points.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know, it was just some of those games they
just they they lost, they got whooped, you know, and
they got shut out. So he didn't really get an
opportunity to really score a touchdown. But a touchdown turns
that into that. But at three percent owned, you know,
I definitely because people are gonna be running to Rico Dowdell.
They're gonna run into this because they want this game
to explode. But what happens if that game doesn't explode?
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What if the Carolina Panthers show up the real k
a lot of Panthers who aren't good. Then you're only
getting fifteen points per player across the board, and you're
only gonna get ten to fifteen from that thing, you
could say, well, I saved one thousand dollars over, you know,
from Dowdell going down to Dwell from Pollard, so you know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
But now if Pollard or Dowdell is.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Nineteen twenty twenty five percent owned, I don't want no
piece of it.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I'm fine. I'm find to stay where I'm at, so
I could take my three percent.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah, I agreed, Gary.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Let's let's let's get it to the wide receivers. That's
what we were saving a little bit of money for.
And I'm staying in the same game, and I'm saying
on the same team. I'm gonna highlight Garrett Wilson sixty
one hundred on DraftKings, seventy eight hundred on FanDuel, a
little pricier on FANDLE, but I think that six thousand
range on DraftKings is looking good.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I'll also throw.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
In the macho pick of the week is Nico Collins.
And that is why the quarterback is stroud and not
fields on my end, because I am swaying so that
I don't have so I have a lower end percentage.
How do you like those picks? And who do you got.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
So Wilson. Yes, pairm with Fields. He should have a
great game. He's doing really well this year. He's got
twenty seven receptions, three hundred and eleven yards, three touchdowns,
he's averaging He even had a dud Week two with
only nine TK points, but the other three games he's
got twenty two, twenty four and twenty DraftKings points.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Last week six catches on eight targets.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
The week before ten act she's on thirteen targets, averaging
nineteen DraftKings points and again going against probably the worst
you know, passing defense in the league right now, currently
at least with Dallas. So you have to pay fields
with Wilson. I really like Wilson. Once again, I don't
think you know Saint Brown.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I love him. You know, he's great. He's seventy nine hundred.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You look at his points, twenty six, twenty forty two
eight In the first week he's had three and seven.
But you want to pay pay up, and then what
if Detroit gets up? They keep running with Montgomery, you know,
they keep.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Chase.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
I'm still not ready to jump on the Chase train
without what's the space of there, you know, since he
has since four or with down. He's only had nine
and seven DraftKings points in the past two weeks.
Speaker 5 (20:52):
He's getting the targets.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
But Burrow and people arguing, how I mean Borrow one
of the best quarterbacks in the league, and now you're
talking he's down the browny, So I'm not ready to
trust Chase.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
You got Ceedee Lamb. He's out.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
But if your pa want to pay up, I'm gonna butcher.
His name Jackson Smith and gem for Seattle.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
He's twenty six catches, four hundred ThReD yards a touchdown.
He's averaging one hundred yards a game, averaging nineteen point
six Draft Games points. A tough, tough game, but he's
ranked pretty high on our list. Uh, you got a
bucca again at sixty nine. Colins. Like you said, I
think you can even run people back against the Jets.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
But I like going down this week. I like some
of these lower guys. You got Quentin Johnson. You know
Waddle watched for Wattle. Okay, I really like Waddle. You
got Tyreek Hill he's out now. Waddle is a receiver
great with fabric Hill. Now will he put some more
attention on him, Yes, But they have some guys that
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think that they can work around. Wato is now going
to step into the number one receiver role and he's
really good. He's a really so I'm looking at him
Harrison Junior.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Again, he's got a good match his prices about what
we started, we talked about leaving year to do well. Well.
The first week he had eighteen points, then he kind
of had two duds, and then he had points again.
I like him going against not very good defense.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
So Harrison, you know, I like those guys in that
range too.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
So for my producing, I agree with the Harrison. I
want to pop in Road there real quick. And the
reason why is because he's now getting those the Connor
targets as well as dec Mercado is going to be
getting those extra targets out of the backfield. But I know,
I know that Murray is waiting to have that one
hundred yard game with Harrison, and I think he's an
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excellent play right now as well as as just like
we said last week with Johnston, you're gonna give me
Johnston for fifty five hundred. Again, he was ten percent
under ten percent owned on the slate. So if you're
not listening to this show, people, I don't know what
to tell you we gave you twenty three points, ten
percent owned under you know, Johnston on the lineup.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's what we do here, man.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
And like you said, Connor's out. Harrison had ten targets
last week, and we and Harrison was being drafted very
high in season long. He's still a great player. This
may be is his breakout.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Week, you know. So I like Harrison. I actually have
him currently in my lineup. But one other guy that
I really like is Deebo Samuel. Okay, we got Terry
mclaughins out. Samuel last week.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
Six targets, six catches for seventy two yards, touchdown, twenty
DraftKings points. Three of the four games this year of
DraftKings seventeen, twenty two, and twenty he had it dug
in versus Vegas. That's twenty two receptions, two and four yards,
three touchdowns for the year. I really like Samuel this week.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, yeah, I dig it, I dig it.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Now let's get to where we're gonna do some savings
in the tight end and uh and then of course
we're gonna do a defense and then we're gonna be
getting into our ultra contra lineups. So I'm going Mason Taylor.
Everybody is gonna be thinking. Everybody wants to say Mason Taylor,
but they're really gonna play Tommy Tremble.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
But we already did.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
We already figured out the sway on that the sway
from Tommy Tremble will be the backup who also had
a touchdown last week to Tommy Tremble, which was Mitchell
Evans for the Carolina Pantries twenty seven hundred. But for me,
I'd rather do the Mason Taylor twenty eight hundred. I
know that that seems like a lot of jets on
that team to be playing this week, but I'm not
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thinking a forty to forty game with the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
But that's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I don't really like anybody else, maybe Fonpt, maybe Barner,
But for me.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Overall, that's where I'm at. Where do you? Where are
you out on tight end?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah? You know they were talking about it on the
show the other night.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
If you didn't watch doc show, and they really like Taylor,
I do two.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
He's pretty cheap, you know at that at that price.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I don't know if he's gonna, you know, have monster
games in him, but you know, if you're playing you know, uh,
you know, he's probably gonna be low ow and he's
twenty eight hundred. If you're playing fields, you put Wilson,
you put you play fields Wilson and put Taylor in
a tight end.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Save that money from say some of the higher.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
End guys like you know McBride, who of course is great,
but you know he's fifty eight hundred. Uh you know,
Bours fifty. So you're saving a lot of money there,
you know. And I do like you know, those guys high.
But we've talked about this for there are times to
pay up for tight end.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
There are times, yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I had I mean, if I think there's gonna be
a guy that's gonna have a monster game and you know,
YadA YadA, or maybe you know, I mean sure I
used to pay up for Chelsea when he had the
right matchups and yeah, of course, you know, and Tony
Gonzalez back in the day.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
But uh, you know, but I don't think you but
I think he's a great play. Trample is a good
play too, you know. I mean, I think they're both good.
I think you can go, uh, you can go look.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Forward at forty tk uh Er thirty eight one hundred.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
They're not horrible. Uh but uh, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Or you can run you can run it back with
Ferguson too if you want to. If you want to say,
if you're gonna pay it for tight end and you
want to stay in that game, then get Ferguson because
you know, Ferguson should be open in the middle of
the field since they have you know, since Williams is
hurt right now for the Jets, So that kind of
opens up that linebacking corps a little bit. So that
so you know, that's that's gonna help in sauces. This
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is what people sauce is gonna be on Pickens. So
once once Pickens is shut down, then that's where my
boy Jaellen Tolbert is gonna.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
So yeah, I mean there will be some really nice plays.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
And be careful Jawan Johnson. He's questionable.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
I don't or you got you got one more?
Speaker 4 (27:23):
And I know I like him, I always like him,
but he's questionable, So I just keep an eye on him.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
But you know there's I don't see. You don't don't pay.
You don't have to pay for the hider Bowers. You know,
you can get away with a lot of other guys.
But yeah, let's move on.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yep, but before you go that, and by the way,
his backup is hurt too. That's Johnson's backup. So stole
bang twenty five hundred. If you're feel a froggy, so
watch that, watch that report.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Defense. I'm gonna say it right now, the Saints. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Twenty two hundred on DK and thirty five hundred on fans.
Everybody y'all could think I'm crazy as heck, But let
me tell you something. One thing the Saints do, even
though they're getting four points. One thing the Saints are doing,
they're getting a decent amount of sacks, and they're getting
interceptions or defensive fumble recoveries. They're getting a little bit
of points going into this game right now. I if
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the Giants, I don't think going into New Orleans are
gonna be able to score forty points or thirty points.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And that's what the Saints have had to deal with.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So right now, if the Giants just come in and
roll in a seventeen to twenty or seventeen or twenty
four points, that should actually give that defense and they're
gonna be low percent on because I nail all these
low percent on Jacksonville's defense last week two percent owned.
I mean, there's nothing more we got to say. But
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when you look at that, I'm willing to take that chance.
Is there a defense? I mean, of course, Seahawks twenty
eight hundred, the Daunting, twenty eight hundred tag Steve take
it from there.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
You name the Saints, great, I would play the Saints, Seahawks,
you name the sy They've been playing really, really well.
I just had it up here. They they're only twenty
eight hundred on DK. Okay, they do have two defensive touchdowns,
which you always talked about you and rely on that. However,
they're getting those defensive touchdowns because they're playing with defense.
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They have seven interceptions in four games and twelve sacks.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Seven interceptions, twelve sacks in four games, averaging twelve and
a half. You know, d K Boyd.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
They're going against Tampa Bay at home. There just a
really good defense. You know, they've been giving up some points,
or actually they have not been giving me up points.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
They haven't given up over twenty points yet for the year.
But when you're getting three sacks and almost two interceptions
a game, that's that's great.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
On twenty eight hundred. I think they're miss priced. Actually,
I don't think they should you know, why are the
core Yeah, you know, I think they should be a
little bit higher than that.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
And you know, we have a really.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Good But the thing is they were trying to put
they were trying to put those two things together like
they do for the UFC. They were trying to put
They're trying to put the Seahawks and the Bucks right
next together. But what they're not, what they're forgetting is
this is the NFC West. I know, the NFC West.
We have defense. Right they're in Seattle and they're just
gonna get stomped out Tampa Bay. I'm staying away, but Seattle, Oh,
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I'll be in on that.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
And like you said, you were already there. So yeah,
that's what I got.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
The big and the cheap one against my Baltimore Ravens.
The Texans twenty four hundred dollars on DraftKings. They've actually
been playing pretty well. They have, you know, eleven sacks
on the year, only two interceptions, but they're not giving
up a lot of points. And and you know, we
just talked about Lamar's out. They haven't you know, obviously
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you know, they can get their sacks. They're only twenty
four hundred. Yes it's in Baltimore, but they're really cheap defense.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
They've had six, seven, five and fourteen fancy points on TK,
you know, and unless you get that defensive touchdown, you're
normally not going to break ten points for your deep.
I mean you can, but around ten, you know, is
what you're gonna for. But last week they did not
have a defensive touchdown. They had two sacks exception. You know,
they only gave up one hundred and seventy five total
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yards last week.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
And now it was Tennessee, but you know, they shut
them out.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
So I think that you could definitely play them against
my Ravens.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I like it. I like it, man. That's it.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
That's how we do it. All right, man, let's move
it along. Steve, give us your core four and your
Flago pick of the week.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
All right.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
You know I've been debating with this, all right, So
we're gonna go.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
We're gonna go fields at quarterback, get.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Them in there fifty six hundred and pair them with Wilson,
pat him up with Wilson. That's two of my four.
They're gonna have a good game against Dallas. They should
have a great game against Dallas again. You know, if
you look at Wilson's numbers, Uh, they're off the charts
right now. I think they're gonna have a great game.
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I'm going Deebo Samuel play him, play him at sixty
three hundred. It's fine. I think he's gonna have. You know,
he's gonna have a good game. He's gonna be one
of the few people. And Daniels is back now you
know it's not Mariota, so he's familiar again. Mclaurin's out,
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so look Samuel in to your lineup. So you got
Fields and Wilson and Samuel. Let's go running back Miami
at Chane had I always pronounced it at Shane. Uh,
he's gonna have a good game.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Twenty carries last week going up it's at Carolina, but
it doesn't matter or it's not like they're traveling far.
I think he's going to have a really so get
him in your lineups. I'm a little all over the
place with this week. My lineup.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Check Discord because I am doing three. I have some
other really good lineups that I'm working on. H So, yeah,
Murray lineup whatever. But you know, my Flago pic and
we've talked a little bit about this guy, not much.
It's Gibbs on Detroit. He's my get him in there. Yeah,
he splits time with Montgomery.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
I get it, you know, but you know, Cincinnati cannot
stop the run and Gibbs. Gibbs is the workhorse out
of this guys.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
You know, he started off Week one nine carries, then
Week twelve, twenty two, fifteen. I think he's going to
get closer to that eighteen to twenty some this week.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Remember too, Montgomery, he's got a lot of points because
he broke a couple against my Ravens.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
You know, he went for you know, but Gibbs fifty
eight year tempts tourin seventy one yards and four touchdowns
and up sixty seven yards a game, which is actually
a little low compared to last year. He's still catching
the ball out of the backfield. In Week one he
had tenches.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
He only had two last week, but he had five
the week before, three the week before.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
He's got I think, wait, yeah, so yeah, and he
scored in as he scored in every game.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
No, he didn't score a game one, but he scored
in the past three one to two and one touchdowns.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
He's going to score, he's going to get points.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Ye pay the seventy seven get him in their lineup
against Cincinnati, and remember, put him in your flex spot.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I don't think I've always I have to remind people.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
When you're playing on these put the late game people
in your flex spot in case there's something happens. You
want to be able to move your flex spot with
late swap. So let's say something happened. Yes, yes, always.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Brought that up because a lot of people overlooked that.
I mean I even for a lot of people do
and forget.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
Sometimes I make it a line real quick.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And then especially for NBA because NBA, you know you
got West Coast games, so in a utility spot or whatever,
you want to make sure, uh, you know you have
that flexibility, so you know, put Gibbs in your spot.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
And then you also at that.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Point you have seventy seven hundred dollars and in my
lineup I have the Seahawks. So well, let's say something
happens and you're either behind or you want to play
it safe. You know in yourn you could switch it up,
maybe maybe go round or Chase, you want to go
for it or something drop you know your defense or
you know something like that. So Gibbs, out of all
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the high priced players, I think he's the guy to
play this week.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
You want to give out your lineup right now, then
and then I'll get to the ultra contrarian lineups.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
And now, keep in mind, this is the one.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I've got a couple, so check out Discord because I
have another one that I really like.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
So so I think you don't have. This is the
one I could have. I got Fields at quarterback, I
got a chain at running back, I got Scataboo at
running back, Harrison Samuel, Wilson, Taylor Gibbs, and the Seahawks
d But that's mind line. But I think you could.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Drop down from the Seahawks, uh the Texans and upgrade elsewhere.
So if you wanted to, you could do that, for example,
Samuel Samuel.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Or you could upgrade Scataboo.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
You know, you could go up to Walker, or you
could running back with Williams on dab in that lineup.
I actually like running back with Williams. So you could
drop down in Houston and play. So keep that in mind.
Watch for my updates and discord. But that's what I like.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I love it, man, I love it. And you can
tell great minds thinking like man, because it's coming up. Man,
let's get to it. It's the border of the time
the little things happened. Oh time for the ulldrug contrarian lineups.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm gonna run them off real quick, and then I'm
gonna first I'm gonna do the the Optimizers lineup. It's
Daniel Jones, Breist Hall, A Chane, Wilson, JSN Smith, Najinba
of course, Deebo, Samuel Ty, Warren, Rico Daddle.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
And Saints defense.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Even the Optimizer likes my defense, but I little sway
on that. And that's a DK lineup. This is my
DK lineup. It's Stroud, Hall, Gibbs, Quinton Johnson. Again, I'm
running it until the wheels fell off, right, Nico Collins,
Garrett Wilson, I've got Mason Taylor, I've got a Chan
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and I've got the Seahawks defense.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
I went all nutsy. Let's flip it.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
To FanDuel fandel Ooh, Stroud, Gibbs, Hall, Johnston, Collins, Uh,
oh wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Jyalen Tolbert Taylor a Chane.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
And the Saints defense had to switch it up a
little bit right there. Those are the alter contrarian lineups.
Your thoughts, Steve, and then we'll get.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Out of here.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I love it. There's a great uh, and I love it.
And and you know just what, just what you were talking.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
If people on a bonus Fuego lineup, I can give
it to him right now, it's up to you. But
if you want to Murray lineup, I can give it
out right now.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Do it.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Murray haul, pay up for Jonathan Towler pay the eight
thousand match Murray with Harrison, play Samuel, play Smith, the
play him on Seattle, play Tremble, play Hampton at running
back and then go Saint Steve. That's your second line
up right there, I'll put it into love it. I
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liked it. Just as you were talking. I came up
with it. And that's how what he is easy it
is people listen to us, look at our optimizers, just
think and just go messing around and you know what,
compare it.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
So just right there, I think that's an interesting lineup.
I'll put that in there as well. And uh, it
was a great show right right.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
It was, but hey, let's give out one more and
then we're gonna go out the way.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Here's an MMA lineup for tonight's UFC three twenty off
of the Optimizer. Now you gotta go to the subsequent
discord to get all the other crazy stuff that we
got going on. But let's just roll it. Gatti A Walker,
pro Shut Devlish, Pheeley, Soriano, Rahimjah. I love Roheja. He's
worked out in a lot of things. He just needs
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to go the distance, maybe get a win. But he
is this heavy dog. They got him at forty one points.
I know you don't u UFC, but man, another great show,
my brother.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
I really want to start to a UFC. So I'm
gonna get I'm gonna help it. I'm gonna help you.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
With NBA so much money, we win so much money,
like the people don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'm literally the baddest dude in the world at this.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Point, and I get pissed because you send me your
winning lineups.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
I'm like, why didn't I play? Why I play? So?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
But also just before we get out, also looking discord,
we got a couple of NBA games tonight. I'll be
putting in some lineups there too.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Oh we get rich tonight, Let's go. That's that's how
you make those tough bets. Steve.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Yeah, and I know, and I know everyone loves football,
but here's what you do. When you win your money
in football and you're bored during the week, go play
the other stuff that we got on our site. We're
gonna one guy coming on soon. I talked to Doc
about if you.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Like auto racing, my boys, and he knows everything about
F one everything. Listen to him.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh this is gonna be great. All right, my brother,
Thanks for taking time out on your day. You have
an amazing day and we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I have a great love everybody, and always remember to
break a pies.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
Thanks for stopping by the office. Get your fantasy prescription
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