September 1, 2025 • 10 mins
In this episode of Bring the Pain, the bell has been rung, and we're back for another match. That means we'll be going "Through the Turnbuckles," as we talk about WWE's, Clash in Paris. That means all four topics will be about last night's event as we try to figure out what's next for the WWE as we approach Wrestlepalooza on ESPN. So you'll want to buckle up because I play a heel on this episode, which leads to some good banter. Have a great day, everyone, and may the slams be with you.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's Heat over Roding and I'm ready to put the
burn for you and doctor Roader this week. Oh yeah,
it's another edition Through the Turnbuckles.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We just got done watching Clash in Paris. But let
me introduce my beautiful co host, Chrissy. Right, what's up it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
What did you think about the pay per view today?
Was it just a filler pay per view? I mean yeah,
it was okay. Did you like any any bright spots
from the pay per view?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do you think it helps anything going forward? Of course,
we're gonna be covering four topics. That's what the Through
the turn Buckles is all about. We go through the
turn Buckles, we hit all four turn buckles, four topics,
and we get it going.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Man, but I'm jacked up. There's a lot to talk about.
So you ready, let's go?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
All right? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
What's up? First turn buckle? Roman, first, Bronson to dismatch.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And the way you thought it was gonna end kind.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of yeah, So everybody got beat up.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Paul Hayman's in the hospital, Roman's in the hospital, Bronson,
Reed and Braun were banned. We knew that this was
gonna happen. It was gonna set something up for eventually.
I was hoping that it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Was gonna set up La Night. Turning to the Vision.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Which is the name of Cessfaction if anybody needs caught
up to speed or whatnot.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Man, but man, yo, how's this making you feel? There's
still shoes involved?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No, Roman got shoes back.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, of course he got his shoes back. But what
do you think about it? What does this do for
Roman going forward? He can be out for a while. Broive,
Why is he gonna be out for a while? You
want the real reason? Yeah, because he's doing movies, of course.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man, that's what this is about. Well, this is about
the dirt. Roman's gonna be out for a while. That's
that's that's the whole injury thing. Right now, Paul Hayman's
gonna be back, and the Vision is going to.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, but he's not coming back with him and and
and and.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I I got something completely wrong, But we'll get to
that all right. Next Turnbuckle Becky First, Nikky, whoa?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What's up? Chrissy Ray? We all knew Becky Lynch was
going to.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Retain, right or did you think that Bella had a chance.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I thought she was gonna take it from her just.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But why just a little comeback. We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But I think that Becky needs a title right now,
and we'll get to that. We'll get to the why later.
But what's next for Becky after this? Do we get
a rematch with Nikki Bella? Or is it gonna be
La Valkyria or is it somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
New challenge her again?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
While all right, all right, so that being said, who
is it dead? Is it like Kyrie Zane coming back?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Might agent?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, so it could be aj but this is gonna
be No, it's not a far reach because that's gonna
make sense when we get to the fourth turn buckle.
Everybody but man, all right, well, I think that that
tellerbuckle is going. I like that what they're doing with Bella.
And but at this point, I get it. I get
(03:46):
the whole thing, the whole She's had a kid, and
they're playing that that whole stick with her. Fine, it's great.
So for that being said, we're gonna move along. I mean,
I'm not gonna under I'm not gonna undermine and you know,
her being a mom or them trying to use that right,
But at the same time, where is she gonna go
from here?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
If she can't win the title her, they don't want.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
To put a title around Nicky Bella, then why is
she wrestling?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What was good? Does she need a tag team partner?
What do you think? I don't know who Nicki Bella
not if she's going for a belt, yeah, but she
just lost. She can't choose to go for a bell again.
Did you don't understand what I just said? Yeah? You crazy?
(04:36):
You crazy?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
All right, let's move along to the next turnbuckle. John
Cena first, Logan Paul. I got this completely wrong. I
thought Brockluster was a come out whoop some mass.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But that's not what happened. We got John Cena beating
Logan Paul in a great match. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I I thought Johnsena was gonna be Logan Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean everybody did. I didn't have no doubts about that, because.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So what does this do for Logan Paul? Does he
just go forward? Does he just get buried? Does John
Cena now go to brock Lester. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Come man, what's going on? Man? Why are you in
my face like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm trying to get at you. Seriously, I'm trying to
get at you. I'm trying to jos sit you up.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Where does John Cena go from here? Is it got to.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Figure it out tomorrow because they said something on Monday
night after before or not Monday Monday night, no Friday night.
And he's like Brock and then Logan Paul knocked out
John scene and then we haven't heard anything since. So
we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's there's this this hidden news about
Brock Lester.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's what I'm talking about. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'll try to get you to talk a like about
what you think that the future is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I know, I catch you. I don't know because we
don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, but you can't just take the easy way out
and be like, oh no and just roll on to
the next question.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I need at least.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I'm well, you got it. You gotta figure it out.
It's gonna be on tape. We get it on tape,
and we say it right then.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
When people don't come out too.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That was crazy, man. It is what it is, all right,
onto the manette. Now, last turn, Bucko yo tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, maybe Seth retains with help from Becky Lych. I
thought La Knight was gonna turn he did not. It
was set up perfectly for something unusual was gonna happen.
We've been waiting for Becky Lynch to become part of
the Vision. That is why the belt is important for
(06:47):
Becky to have right now, which is why I said
my comments about Nikki Bella, what are your comments about
Seth retaining.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And everybody else just getting pushed aside? Wow, now she
gets a shine.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
She's just.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I don't think she's Do you think she's joining them?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She did that tonight. Did you not get that she
stood by her man because they got because she stepped in?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, because Seth needed help, even though he said, I
don't need any help. If I can't keep this bell
on my own, then I don't deserve it. And then
there she comes stepping in.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know if she technically joined them.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't say she joined them. She joined them, or
she's at least gonna stand by her man. She doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
To be part of the faction, the Vision, I don't think,
but I think that she's part of the vision, by marriage,
by faction, by she aligns with Seth Rawlins right now,
back when they thought that everybody thought they were a
cute couple.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I think she just went in there to help because
you just didn't help.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, that was the whole story. That was the whole thing,
you know, join them.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Hey, I that's what that's my that's what that was
my what I was trying to say.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But this might be a ticket.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And I don't know if AJ's coming back, but.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, it is.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Aj has to come back now because if aj Lee
does not come back, now, she's leaving her man out
there without something.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is the perfect time to do it. You go
a met Yeah, you got Wressell Palooza coming up, or you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Got Survivor series coming up called Family Matters, right, and
then you got Roman getting back into.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It with his cousins. You got you got Seth and
Becky getting into it with aj Lee and cm punk.
Now you got everybody separated. You find something for Sana
to do, you find something for Cody to do, and
then we have our bait. We get the.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Downtime Christmas Royal rumble. That's what's going on. What do
you think about that timeline. Does that work.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think that's a workable timeline.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think all that was wild much. I mean it
was a bit much, but that's what we're doing. But
that's what I want from this show. I want to
make sure that when we go through the term buckles.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The storyline, he's just out there.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Will he come at me, come at me, come out me.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So that's why right now it makes sense. But I
do like that today when Wade Barrett talked about yeah,
he's such a heel, but when he talked about Sina
and how that that would have worked, that wouldn't work now,
and how Sena doesn't work now, and how Logan Paul
works now but wouldn't have worked back when Sina was
(09:44):
coming up.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I thought that was a good comparison. I think that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Really is what the WWE and the popularity of the
wrestlers are right now.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
If the people are going to cheer for him, love them, love.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That angle, they will push them move, they will put
them in this the limelight. And I like that about that.
I like that about the WWE right now. So I
think that this going forward, I think that this gives
a little chance.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You don't have to really have.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Seth retained or do a championship fight much right now,
if he gets into it a tag team match with
both his wife and of course seeing Punk and aj Lee, right,
you can kind of protect them going through the holidays, right,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
But eventually one of the barons are gonna turn on Seth?
Well are they both?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Or maybe maybe Becky starts coming around and that starts
stirring the pot, or Seth becomes weak because she's the
one saving him, and maybe that's the way out.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All right, maybe, all right, Well that's where we're gonna
end it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Everybody, have a great day, everybuddy, and always remember.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
To break the pain.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Have a great day, Chrissy, whoa
What's up everybody.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's Heat over Roding and I'm ready to put the
burn for you and doctor Roader this week. Oh yeah,
it's another edition Through the Turnbuckles.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh yeah, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
We just got done watching Clash in Paris. But let
me introduce my beautiful co host, Chrissy. Right, what's up it?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
What did you think about the pay per view today?
Was it just a filler pay per view? I mean yeah,
it was okay. Did you like any any bright spots
from the pay per view?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Do you think it helps anything going forward? Of course,
we're gonna be covering four topics. That's what the Through
the turn Buckles is all about. We go through the
turn Buckles, we hit all four turn buckles, four topics,
and we get it going.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Man, but I'm jacked up. There's a lot to talk about.
So you ready, let's go?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
All right? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
What's up? First turn buckle? Roman, first, Bronson to dismatch.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
And the way you thought it was gonna end kind.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Of yeah, So everybody got beat up.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Paul Hayman's in the hospital, Roman's in the hospital, Bronson,
Reed and Braun were banned. We knew that this was
gonna happen. It was gonna set something up for eventually.
I was hoping that it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Was gonna set up La Night. Turning to the Vision.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Which is the name of Cessfaction if anybody needs caught
up to speed or whatnot.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Man, but man, yo, how's this making you feel? There's
still shoes involved?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
No, Roman got shoes back.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, of course he got his shoes back. But what
do you think about it? What does this do for
Roman going forward? He can be out for a while. Broive,
Why is he gonna be out for a while? You
want the real reason? Yeah, because he's doing movies, of course.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Man, that's what this is about. Well, this is about
the dirt. Roman's gonna be out for a while. That's
that's that's the whole injury thing. Right now, Paul Hayman's
gonna be back, and the Vision is going to.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, but he's not coming back with him and and
and and.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I I got something completely wrong, But we'll get to
that all right. Next Turnbuckle Becky First, Nikky, whoa?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What's up? Chrissy Ray? We all knew Becky Lynch was
going to.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Retain, right or did you think that Bella had a chance.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I thought she was gonna take it from her just.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
But why just a little comeback. We'll come back.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
But I think that Becky needs a title right now,
and we'll get to that. We'll get to the why later.
But what's next for Becky after this? Do we get
a rematch with Nikki Bella? Or is it gonna be
La Valkyria or is it somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
New challenge her again?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
While all right, all right, so that being said, who
is it dead? Is it like Kyrie Zane coming back?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Might agent?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Okay, so it could be aj but this is gonna
be No, it's not a far reach because that's gonna
make sense when we get to the fourth turn buckle.
Everybody but man, all right, well, I think that that
tellerbuckle is going. I like that what they're doing with Bella.
And but at this point, I get it. I get
(03:46):
the whole thing, the whole She's had a kid, and
they're playing that that whole stick with her. Fine, it's great.
So for that being said, we're gonna move along. I mean,
I'm not gonna under I'm not gonna undermine and you know,
her being a mom or them trying to use that right,
But at the same time, where is she gonna go
from here?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
If she can't win the title her, they don't want.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
To put a title around Nicky Bella, then why is
she wrestling?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What was good? Does she need a tag team partner?
What do you think? I don't know who Nicki Bella
not if she's going for a belt, yeah, but she
just lost. She can't choose to go for a bell again.
Did you don't understand what I just said? Yeah? You crazy?
(04:36):
You crazy?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
All right, let's move along to the next turnbuckle. John
Cena first, Logan Paul. I got this completely wrong. I
thought Brockluster was a come out whoop some mass.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But that's not what happened. We got John Cena beating
Logan Paul in a great match. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I I thought Johnsena was gonna be Logan Paul.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I mean everybody did. I didn't have no doubts about that, because.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
So what does this do for Logan Paul? Does he
just go forward? Does he just get buried? Does John
Cena now go to brock Lester. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Come man, what's going on? Man? Why are you in
my face like that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm trying to get at you. Seriously, I'm trying to
get at you. I'm trying to jos sit you up.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Where does John Cena go from here? Is it got to.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Figure it out tomorrow because they said something on Monday
night after before or not Monday Monday night, no Friday night.
And he's like Brock and then Logan Paul knocked out
John scene and then we haven't heard anything since. So
we'll see, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's there's this this hidden news about
Brock Lester.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
That's what I'm talking about. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I'll try to get you to talk a like about
what you think that the future is gonna be.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I know, I catch you. I don't know because we
don't know what happened.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, but you can't just take the easy way out
and be like, oh no and just roll on to
the next question.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I need at least.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I'm well, you got it. You gotta figure it out.
It's gonna be on tape. We get it on tape,
and we say it right then.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
When people don't come out too.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
But he didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That was crazy, man. It is what it is, all right,
onto the manette. Now, last turn, Bucko yo tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, maybe Seth retains with help from Becky Lych. I
thought La Knight was gonna turn he did not. It
was set up perfectly for something unusual was gonna happen.
We've been waiting for Becky Lynch to become part of
the Vision. That is why the belt is important for
(06:47):
Becky to have right now, which is why I said
my comments about Nikki Bella, what are your comments about
Seth retaining.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
And everybody else just getting pushed aside? Wow, now she
gets a shine.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
She's just.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I don't think she's Do you think she's joining them?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
She did that tonight. Did you not get that she
stood by her man because they got because she stepped in?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, because Seth needed help, even though he said, I
don't need any help. If I can't keep this bell
on my own, then I don't deserve it. And then
there she comes stepping in.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I don't know if she technically joined them.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
I don't say she joined them. She joined them, or
she's at least gonna stand by her man. She doesn't have.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
To be part of the faction, the Vision, I don't think,
but I think that she's part of the vision, by marriage,
by faction, by she aligns with Seth Rawlins right now,
back when they thought that everybody thought they were a
cute couple.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
I think she just went in there to help because
you just didn't help.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, that was the whole story. That was the whole thing,
you know, join them.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Hey, I that's what that's my that's what that was
my what I was trying to say.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
But this might be a ticket.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
And I don't know if AJ's coming back, but.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
No, it is.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Aj has to come back now because if aj Lee
does not come back, now, she's leaving her man out
there without something.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is the perfect time to do it. You go
a met Yeah, you got Wressell Palooza coming up, or you.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Got Survivor series coming up called Family Matters, right, and
then you got Roman getting back into.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It with his cousins. You got you got Seth and
Becky getting into it with aj Lee and cm punk.
Now you got everybody separated. You find something for Sana
to do, you find something for Cody to do, and
then we have our bait. We get the.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Downtime Christmas Royal rumble. That's what's going on. What do
you think about that timeline. Does that work.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think that's a workable timeline.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think all that was wild much. I mean it
was a bit much, but that's what we're doing. But
that's what I want from this show. I want to
make sure that when we go through the term buckles.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
The storyline, he's just out there.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Will he come at me, come at me, come out me.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So that's why right now it makes sense. But I
do like that today when Wade Barrett talked about yeah,
he's such a heel, but when he talked about Sina
and how that that would have worked, that wouldn't work now,
and how Sena doesn't work now, and how Logan Paul
works now but wouldn't have worked back when Sina was
(09:44):
coming up.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I thought that was a good comparison. I think that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Really is what the WWE and the popularity of the
wrestlers are right now.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
If the people are going to cheer for him, love them, love.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
That angle, they will push them move, they will put
them in this the limelight. And I like that about that.
I like that about the WWE right now. So I
think that this going forward, I think that this gives
a little chance.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You don't have to really have.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Seth retained or do a championship fight much right now,
if he gets into it a tag team match with
both his wife and of course seeing Punk and aj Lee, right,
you can kind of protect them going through the holidays, right,
I guess.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
But eventually one of the barons are gonna turn on Seth?
Well are they both?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Or maybe maybe Becky starts coming around and that starts
stirring the pot, or Seth becomes weak because she's the
one saving him, and maybe that's the way out.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All right, maybe, all right, Well that's where we're gonna
end it.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Everybody, have a great day, everybuddy, and always remember.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
To break the pain.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Have a great day, Chrissy, whoa
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
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