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The Broadcast’s Amanda, Shandy, and Colleen discuss HBO’s “Big Little Lies.” They start with Season 2, Episode 1, “What Have They Done?” Subscribe (MP3) l Become a Patron l Join Our Facebook Group
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(00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Broad LittleLies with Amanda, Shandy and Colleen.
My name is Colleen, my nameis Amanda, and I'm Shandy. Welcome
everybody to the show. This isour first episode of this podcast, not
our first episode to podcasting, butwe have one of the stars of the
show making a late later season,later season appearance, taking bets on which

(00:32):
episode I'll show up on. Youdon't you don't know? You I straight
up do not. I I'm sureif it was like you knew and you
couldn't don't know, like I reallydon't know, but I was guessing,
given what I do know about thescene, I was guessing that we wouldn't
get there in this first episode,right, So for anybody just joining us,

(00:52):
Amanda and Shandy and I do anotherpodcast called The Broadcast with Amanda,
Shandy and Colleen, and we've we'rethree seasons into that. And Shandy was
actually an extra on this season ofBig Little Lies because she lives in Monterey
and I don't know. We decidedwe want to have that inside baseball knowledge
for that one episode that she's on. Plus, we love general Monterey knowledge.

(01:17):
Yeah, general Monterey knowledge to offerto Plus we love talking to each
other so much that we thought thatthis would be a great show to add
to our repertoire. Plus it's alot better than Handmaid's Tale, which I
just can't talk about in depth.So oh my god, we're not now.
Yeah, if you want to hearthat, listen to the broadcast,

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pin and that sadness. Just youknow, I can't. I can't get
that. Sob inside, yes,in your heart, sob, And we'll
get to a Nope, Nope,nope, I won't, I won't.
I can't watch it yet. Youguys, I really depressed, remember,
Like I was like laying on thefloor crying after season two, like I
couldn't deal with it. So anyway, we're not here to talk about that.

(02:00):
We're here to talk about big littlelies. So light, so much
lighter, so far, all thesewomen still have their autonomy, so I
guess it is still lighter in away. True, very true. Yeah.
There's only been you know, likelight domestic abuse, light domestic abuse,

(02:22):
light rape, you know, yeah, little normal stuff, norm combo.
Yeah, normal, normal sad stuff. We're not dystopian high quality drama.
Yeah. Yeah, anyway, cool, So here we are. I
say, I'm a little bit nervous. We've been We've got the formula for

(02:45):
the other show down pat that.I was like, ah, how am
I going to do something new?But yeah, so I guess those of
you listening for the first time,thank you for your patience. We have
nowhere to go but up, sostick around. It's just going to get
better. Exactly exactly, So herewe are Big Little Eyes, season two
the show. I hadn't realized thatit's been over two years since the show

(03:07):
last aired. Season one aired Februaryseventeenth, twenty seventeen to April second,
twenty seventeen, which was I know. I thought it was like a year
ago. I couldn't believe it.Yeah, no, I because I went
to that casting call a year ago. That's right, flash filmed a year
ago. That's right. Wow,that was a year ago. Yeah,

(03:31):
time is moving at an alarming rate, lady, it really is. Yeah
it is. Yeah, I know. And so I was doing the casting
thing a year ago, and weactually ended up watching the episode with another
friend who, unbeknownst to me,had also done the open casting call and
also as an extra, and soit was just really fun to watch it

(03:52):
together because we were like all alleyes on the screen, but like on
the back of the screen crowns right. Well, that's interesting when you like
you were extras and different scenes sototally different can like swamp background info you
can like piece together exactly. Wellhe was We didn't see him, but

(04:13):
he would have been and maybe thiswill come up later, but he would
have been in that scene with theBlissful Drip cafe. So he was close
to Meryl Street proximity. Oh my, not to get too in depth right
now, but she came out swingingfor that emmy shit right, she was
like right there, guys, rightthere. I don't think Meryl does anything

(04:38):
half ass though, to be honest, she does not invite Meryl to be
in something she's gonna bring. She'sgonna bring it plus plus plus exclamation point
game, and she did because shewas fabulous. But yeah, what the
initial reactions and then we can getinto some more in depth discussion. What

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do you guys think like? Offthe bat like a good start to the
season. I liked it. Iliked the setup of where they're going.
I liked that it kind of jumpedright into I mean celesque kind of had
the reaction I thought she would have. Everybody kind of had the reaction that
I thought that they would have,right down to like Bonnie being so freaked
out and Madeline just being like allright, next people people. Um yeah,

(05:31):
I kind of felt like this episodewas a little bit of treading water
and maybe now that, like Colleenhow you had said that it had been
almost two years since you know,we've seen all these characters, that maybe
they felt like they really needed tolike ease you in, ease you back
into the world with this first episode. But I really felt like nothing happened

(05:51):
other than like reminding you who thesecharacters are, where they were the last
time we saw them, and sortof a little star to plant the seeds
of like the aftermath and like wherethey're at now. Yeah, but I
definitely and the one of the peoplethat I was watching with kind of had
the reaction of like, well,there's no plot in season two apparently,

(06:14):
and I was like, you know, I mean again, they're very much
Yeah, they're very much like settingthings up. And I loved season one
and I love all of the characters, so I'm like thoroughly invested to see
what the fallout is and how they'regoing to deal, and I think,
just like you said, Amanda,we have all of the seeds are planted
about the we know a little bitof what's going on with the detective stuff.

(06:39):
We know that Meryl Streep is goingto be an issue, So I
think that we can't really say,we can't really judge it yet until the
next episode. I will say Iwatched it twice and I picked up on
a little bit more the second time, and I didn't read any reviews or
anything until after I watched at thesecond time, and even then I only

(07:00):
really had time to read kind ofone little review on it. So I'm
I'm pretty fresh. That's what shesaid. But we're still doing those on
this show, by the way.But I did pick up a lot more
and I have more theories about wherethe show could be headed after a second

(07:21):
viewing versus like my first one.So but we can talk more about that
later. Before we get into ourbigger discussion of the show, let me
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right, for that further Ado,let's just get into discussing the episode.

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So, season two, episode one, it was called what Have They Done?
To give a brief synopsis, Amanda, Okay, The episode summary from
HBO goes as follows. Following firstday of school events, Madeleine is worried
by Bonnie's behavior and later is shockedwhen Abigail says she doesn't want to go

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to college. Mary Louise, Celeste'smother in law, offers her an unvarnished
assessment of Madeleine's character, and Janelearns from a new co work from her
new coworker Corey, that she's knownin town as one of the Monterey Five.
Dun Dun, Dun Dun. That'sa pretty uh fair episode description,

(08:48):
I agree. Okay, So howdo you want to do this? You
want to go by character, bystoryline, or just by whatever floats our
boat. As we do on thebroadcast, we actually, oh, I
guess I should plug this now orI should have plugged it like ten minutes
ago. But on our other podcaststhe broadcast, we actually have an entire
episode dedicated two season one of BigLittle Eyes. It's called All the Big

(09:09):
Little Lies Feedback. It's probably onour feed but if you'd like to listen
to it, send us an emailat the Broadcasters three at gmail dot com
and we can totally, you know, hook you up with a link,
or you could probably just google it. It's called All the Big Little Lies
Feedback. It's there you go ifyou want to hear what we thought about
season one. Okay, sorry,moving on, So okay, do we

(09:33):
want to talk about Madeline? Dowe want to talk about Bonnie? Or
do we want to talk about MaryLouise or Celesque. There's so much.
I mean, I want to talkabout Mary Louise real bad, but I
don't want to cut anybody else off. Well, let's start with that.
I think that's a good place tostart because I think that seemed to really
be the like predominant storyline. MaryLouise or Bonnie Louise, now Mary,

(09:58):
I would say, Mary Louise andCeleste storyline I think took up more screen
times did and we actually had anemail about that. Fantastic. Okay,
well then let's talk about Mary Louiseand how she came to Doubt, came
to town with her like, youknow, speak softly, but carry a

(10:18):
big swinging dick around because that ladywas a psychopath. I mean I wanted
the first time I watched it,I was like, is this subtle?
Like, m that's how Perry gotto be? Like kind of how Perry
was because you know, they getto really hear that people who are abusers

(10:39):
were abused in childhood. So Iwas like, did he get maybe get
it from her? Oh no,she's so sweet. Oh she's kind of
past breast leven. Then by theend when she screwed me at the Junner
table, I was like, no, definitely, I've got a childhood trauma
from her, very much like puttingyour child on the pedestal. And it's
very clear that I think we cansafely assume that Perry was an only child.

(11:01):
Yes, oh yes, I thinklike that that was that was laid
out pretty well. Yeah, andif he does have a younger sibling,
they're going to show up in seasonthree and be more fucked up because they're
because they were forgotten. They forgotabout the first Yeah. But okay,

(11:22):
yeah, Mary Louise, like Ialready said, she's obviously swinging for that
Emmy, but like even beyond that, I mean just the she like ooze
that like victimhood, but like lashout victim hood, ton of manipulative.
Also, I really want to seeall the scenes with her end Riese Witherspoon.

(11:43):
Yeah, oh my god, candidcompliments were very, very real.
The unapologetic apologies. Yeah, she'slike, no apologies, Yeah, sure,
people are creepy. Don't mean thatmaybe I do or whatever she said,

(12:03):
I'm sorry that was rude. Shejust I just had a one bad
experience, and you remind me oneof her She kind of okay, so
she kind of reminded me of ana of like a sober Lucile Bluth.
Oh. I was literally gonna say, I wonder what her character development was,

(12:24):
like what did she base this characteraround, and like who what were
her influences? And I feel likeyou nailed it. It's clearly what it
is. Yeah, very interesting allthough the glasses or something else the glasses
are and the really terrible mom hair, the terrible, really terrible mom hair.

(12:45):
I don't know. That just tiesinto my theory that Perry had a
sibling and in season like three,we're gonna hear her be like I never
cared much for job. Come tofind out, Perry like pushed the sibling
out of a treehouse and they werekids. It was his twin brother,
and he was the Max and histwin was the Josh. Okay, this

(13:07):
is all terrible getting back to it. Uh no, Okay, but we
definitely all I think we're all kindof an agreement right now that Mary Louise
is clearly going to be the massivecatalyst of the second season, right She's
going to get a giant thorn,And so what do we think will happen?

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Do we think that she'll come acrossBonnie and trigger Bonnie to like,
I don't know, go to thepolice or say something. Well, I
mean already we have on the nexttime on we have that scene where she's
confronting Nicole Kidman's character. Oh Ididn't see that. She somehow finds out
um that Nicole Kidman's character was goingto leave Perry. Yeah, well people

(13:52):
talk. Yeah, okay, Iwatched it, I said, I never
watched the next week on either time. I think that was also in the
preseason previews. Oh okay, yeah, well, and I always like to
watch through the end of the episodejust in case they do those really wonderful
like behind the episode featurettes, whichthey didn't do, which I guess they

(14:13):
mean they weren't going to do thisseason, and that's kind of a bummer.
But I also feel like, ifyou have that much talent and they're
also producing the show, they're like, HBO, we don't have time for
this. Yeah, right, youcan convince the drugs don't have time.
Right, they're not filming in themiddle of nowhere to be able to come

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in and do your you know,talking heads exactly. Yeah, okay,
um, anybody else have anything rightnow about I thought it was kind of
weird, but also probably goes towhat do you guys think that why she's
so interested in her dreams? Doyou think that she just is really suspicious
that she had something to do withit and just as or is she just

(14:56):
like a psychopath? I think that'sexactly it. I think it's very clear
that Mary Louise knows that something isup and that she's not that's less,
isn't being one hundred percent truthful.But at this point she doesn't know what
she doesn't know. Yeah, butshe knows there is something, and I
think she thinks she's really just tryingto grasp at whatever straws or whatever thread

(15:20):
she can pull on, ye thinkright now? All right? Okay,
So but before we move on,because I really want to talk about Medlin
next. But before we do,I think we have some feedback about Meryl
Streep slash Mary Louise. Indeed wedo, Jacob who did are wonderful artwork?
Yes, love, we love ourartwork, and we love Jacob.

(15:41):
We love Jacob and our artwork.Gay oh much um Jacob Rodan's and feedback
about Marylyn just doing her um andJacob says broads. I don't know if
this is the case for everyone,but I'm consistently exhausted by Meryl Streep's prowess
as an actor. Yes, weare all painfully aware of how good she
is, and I'm always tired ofhearing about it, that is, until

(16:03):
I see her perform again, andI'm reminded that all the buzz is not
for nothing. Let's talk about howtruly amazing she is again and again and
forever. So speaking of prowess.Fun fact about Meryl Streep that was going
around the internet tonight she and ElizabethWarren have the exact same birthday, right

(16:26):
down to the year. Oh wow. Yeah, just a bit of trivia
for anybody that's still playing HQ.That might be a question someday. Very
different paths, very different paths,both unstoppable and persistent and true. Yeah,
I imagine the paths aren't as differentas we as we think upon for
the refunction, Yeah, there's justyeah, there's something about June twenty second.

(16:52):
So just saying big things, bigthings, But yeah, I would
agree with that. I feel likeit's like a Meryl Merrill Meryl. But
I think you look at the castalready and it's just like these badass,
incredible female actors and then it's likeyou add one more and I think,
and I know I said earlier howthe episode didn't really do or go anywhere

(17:15):
for me, But I think thatwas also kind of nice because I found
there was a lot of moments thatI could just sit there and enjoy the
acting that was happening. You marinatein it, Yeah, exactly, you
could just like marinate in the factthat, like these ladies are just at
the top of their game and they'reall so good and to be just given,

(17:40):
like you could just give them thephone Book and let them just like
go at it. And I'm probablyreally entertaining. So I think it's that
part is going to be so excitingthis season. I think adding one more
really talented actress and just the mosttalented the Meryl Streep, I think is
just going to be enjoyable to watch. Yeah. I would watch Meryl Streep

(18:03):
read the phone Book. Yeah,in any language. I think multiple languages
would actually probably be more interesting.Seriously, thank you so much, shake
up for that email. All right, let's talk about Madeline, because oh
my god, she had like Idon't know, she had everything, like

(18:27):
from just how she has this amazingability to car compartmentalize everything yet also simultaneously
let it take over her life.I guess what I'm saying is I to
identify with somebody with a type apersonality. I don't know, guys,

(18:48):
I'm just saying, um, youknow. I loved in the car where
she was talking about the double staring, the double standards for parents with like
drop offs, like how you knowthe moms are there and they're like,
she gained weight, she did this, she did that over the summer,
and like the dads are there andthey're like, oh, look at that.
He was involved. So I thoughtthat was really funny. Um I

(19:14):
oh, oh. I did writedown one quote when when she was honking
the horn and like yelling at thatperson, she goes, once I lean
in, you know how you knowhow I am? And I'm like,
yes, I do know how thatgoes. She was great. She was

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uh And then the whole I hadforgotten until I saw it again. That
Abigail, her daughter, is thechick from Blockers, a broadcast favorite movie.
Oh Blocker. She was in Um, the PBS update of Little Women.

(19:57):
She was was she? She lookslike she was Beth or she Amy?
No, she was Amy. Okay, she doesn't look like an Amy
too. Yeah, grown up Amyor young Amy, they have the same
Amy. The whole series. Yeah, this it's not your nineties. It

(20:18):
was not your nineties. Little Womenfreaking classic, by the way, I
know, I love it that wasnot a backhanded Yes, spoiler alert,
I still cry when Beth dies inthe nineties version. I know, right,
it's so sad. I mean Ikind of crad from like the beginning
credits to that fair enough. Ido love that. Yeah, man,

(20:45):
I know for Claire Danes, shewas coming out from like my so called
like I think this was this beforeor after Romeo and Juliet before. I
think it was before before. I'mguessing. I don't know. I'm I
say that, like, I know, I really I think it was like
nineteen ninety four, and I wantto say that Romeo and Julia was like
ninety six. I don't know,she was just I think it wasn't any

(21:06):
coolest teenager like I could have thoughtof that, I know. And then
she grew up and was really awesomein Homeland and the first season was awesome.
Of Homeland. I never watched that, Yeah, season one of awesome,
but I never never ended up watchingit. Yeah, okay, uh
so yeah, yeah, Abigail,So I didn't realize that, and I

(21:27):
didn't realize that Ziggie is young Sheldon, and whoa he is young Sheldon.
I looked it up and confirmed himand definitely sorry. The therapist is Calamity
Jane from Deadwood, but I hadn't. I hadn't seen Deadwood until this year,
so I didn't know at the timethey were the same actress. But

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while we were watching today, Iwas like, why does she look so
familiar? And then I was like, oh, she's Calamity Jane. She's
just taking a shower. A thoughtlike a side note on the therapist because
we don't need to stay on thatvery long. But are her methods,
like is she a good therapist orher methods? Like, Okay, sometimes
I think she's a questionable therapist.It's just me. Yeah, I mean

(22:12):
she's not as clearly she's not asgood as the therapist and Lucifer but whatever,
just kidding, um, wasn't shesupposed to be their couple's therapist originally?
And he just kind of is alsolike therapists that do couples therapy,
I think don't then also do likeindividual sessions that they don't a therapist for

(22:34):
that because it becomes like, no, they don't because there's a conflict of
interest, like on the therapist becauseEsther Perel in her books has said that
she felt very wasn't sure about that, but she has done that on occasion.
Okay, interesting on occasion, Isuppose. Okay, Well, and
I was gonna ask if, likemaybe Nicole Kid maybe Celeste was like,

(22:56):
just build this this couple's therapy eventhough he's dead, Like I'm actively grieving.
I can't go find a new therapisttoo, right, don't you just
do it? Right? And becauseshe's a rich white lady, her insurance
company was like, sure, anythingyou want, whatever you mean, we

(23:17):
are here for you. I haveyou seen where she lives, Like she
doesn't even really need insurance, Likeshe'll just pay all that out of pocket.
That's very due. Sure, butI'm guessing that this isn't like one
hundred dollars out of pocket kind oftherapist. Yeah, she's doing she's doing.
Okay, everyone's doing fine. There, everyone's doing fine exactly. Okay.

(23:40):
It is a very expensive place tolive. It is like none of
them live. They live in likeBig sur and Malibu. So alright,
still fair, Okay, yes,Madeline, let's get back to this.
So the Abigail storyline, how didwe feel about this? Did anybody else
laugh out loud like I did twicewhen she was like, I want to
do a for profit homeless, likebuilding homes for homeless. And I was

(24:02):
like, for profit did you meannonprofits? She did not because she really,
I mean, I guess it's astartup. So but I loved when
she was like, and I meanso many people have said this, um
there are stripes going on because ofit. When she was like, the
world is like going to end.Yeah, what doesn't matter if I go
I go to college? Yeah,yeah, because the world is not catastrophic.

(24:26):
Stuff isn't going to happen for tenyears, Abigail, that is ten
years of your life that you couldbe doing something to college, have a
career, and still be burnt outon board of that career before the world
happened, exactly. And if youhave to take student loans, but you
won't have to, but if youdid, you would not even have to
worry about paying those back because it'slike the best loan forgiveness exactly, forgiveness

(24:52):
program ever. Oh my god.I will say, okay, two things
about that UM thing. One,it shouldn't have like blindsided Reese Watherspoon's It
shouldn't have blindsided Maline so much becauseAbigail literally said that last season, like

(25:14):
multiple times. Yeah, not goingto college. She doesn't want to go
to college. Um thing too isI am very much um a championer of
higher education. But also like itshouldn't be such a big deal, like
she could okay, assuming that theworld doesn't end in twenty thirty or even

(25:34):
twenty fifty, she could always goto college later. They're doing fine.
She's gonna inherit so much money whenher parents die, she doesn't even have
to worry about that kind of stuff. But there are different things, like
you can take a different path,right, it's nothing to be said about
the game gap year. That's exactlywhat's gonna say. She should take a
gap year. Yeah anyway, profitwork for the home or four at work

(26:00):
for the home. I know,No, she definitely meant for a profit
though, because her when she wasexplaining it, she was like and unlike
blah blah blah and uh Jay,My husband was watching it with me the
second time I watched it, andhe just started laughing. He was like,
good luck with that one. Itdoes feel like something that would only
come out of an affluent, verywhite, eighteen year old girl. Yeah

(26:23):
like that, Like this is gonnawork and we're going to change the world.
Yeah, exactly. And I thinkthat shows us too that like even
though like Madeline isn't necessarily like showinggood parenting skills in the way that she
deals with this, and again,like you can have a different path.

(26:44):
At the same time, Abigail isn'tquite so like me. She's you know,
she's still like a she's still ateenager. She still has a lot
a lot to learn about the work, right, although I think her mom
kind of had a point where shewas like, just make a no nation
in go to college and I don'tknow, a volunteer on your summers off,
like we're rich anyway, Okay.Yeah, So I thought that this

(27:11):
was interesting because I think the Madelinething kind of ties them into a little
bit of the Bonnie thing. Sowe see that Bonnie is you know,
incredibly incredibly affected by pushing Perry downthe stairs, and um, you know,
she's she's pretty much as I believewhat's the husband's name, he says,
you know, she's gone, youknow, like mental m ia,

(27:32):
like you know, she's just notthere anymore. And you know, I
think that that's probably how most peoplewould be, but It's just interesting that
Madeleine is right back to like,Okay, I'm gonna go sell houses now
and worry about, you know,the first day of school drop off,
and Bonnie is like traumatically affected bythis, which you know, I obviously

(27:56):
I can't blame her, And sowhat do you guys think about Bonnie?
I think it was very realistic.I think it was interesting that Madeline,
Madeline, Madeline is the way I'msorry if I've been saying it wrong this
whole time. Madeline is the onewho came up with the lie first that
he just fell backwards down the stairs, and Bonnie wanted to you know point,

(28:18):
you know, wanted to come clean, which is actually kind of also
interesting that Madeline more her initial instinctwas to lie about it when she really
didn't have to because she wasn't reallythat she didn't do the pushing. So
I thought that was kind of interestingthat her you know, first reaction was

(28:41):
to try to cover it up.But I guess maybe that's not that interesting
at all. Well, I thinkthere's something like, I think her character
is a fixer, has a bigcontrol. The control seems to be a
very important part of what makes thatcharacter tick and what makes that character feel
good? Point in control, Like, well, obviously, okay, let

(29:03):
me phrase that better. I thinkcontrol is how that character feels comfortable.
Okay, that if she can controlthe situation, everything is gonna be fine.
Yeah, so I think I thinkthe lie. I think that's where
the lie came from. But thatyou know, has as we've seen,
is kind of ruining Bonnie's life andher marriage and her mothering and well,

(29:26):
and I'm sure she didn't interesting sheshouldn't think about it like that. I
mean, I think, for onething, they didn't have a lot of
time to like I don't know,debrief and like get their story straight probably
and sort of like once they weregoing down that path, they were going
down that path. Yeah. SoI don't think that Madeline was like necessarily

(29:48):
trying to do Bonnie dirty. Onthe contrary, I do agree that she
was doing it to protect her,But it's like, yeah, why is
she the one making the decision necessarily? Yeah? Agree, Like you would
think even Celeste would have more ofa say in that decision, you know,
being the wife who was getting theshit kicked out of her as this
was all going down. I thinkthat's also part of Celeste's character to kind

(30:12):
of hang back and let yeah,other people dictate the play. Yeah.
I think she's a smart woman,but she's not a terribly confident woman.
Yeah, and I think she feelsshe would much rather hang back and just
let Madeleine or someone like that sortof take the reins. And I think

(30:34):
that's why that's probably why they're suchgood friends to be. Yeah, yeah,
for sure. Yeah, And soMadeline makes the decision that, you
know, out of like you know, goodwill, Like she's making the decision
that she thinks is best in thesituation, and then just like sort of
snowballs everyone else with it, justkind of in the same way that she
is making the decision that Abigail isgoing to college because she said so,

(30:56):
whether or not that's actually the rightmove for Miguel right now, Yeah,
right, But I and I thinkshe and I think you bring up a
good point that all that stuff ismotivated out of love, Like it's not
because she just wants to be incontrol of the situation. To be in
control. I think those motivations areall to protect to protect her family,
to protect the people that she loves, you know, Bonnie and Celeste and

(31:19):
like to keep everyone safe. Thatif she can control the situation, everyone
she loves is safe. Yeah,agreed. So let's talk a little bit
then about Celeste. Do we thinkthat she's going to snap towards the end
of the season. Do we thinkthat it's going to be a result of

(31:41):
Mary Louise being there or I havea theory that the conversation that she had
with Jane, when Jane, youknow, said, do you hate me?
And then when like on to pushthe subject like no, I didn't
just you know, have sleep withyour husband even though he raped me,
like I was complicit in it,shut up, I know, And I
was like, oh, I thinkJane has a lot more and has a

(32:04):
lot more guilt than she's letting ontoo about this whole thing, just which
again Jane doesn't is like probably Janeand m a Ranada probably have the least
amount right of guilty in this situation. I mean, yeah, I mean,
and I know that's too, youknow, because just they were there
and they were a part of it. But like Jane has this whole other

(32:24):
thing going on that like she figuredout who her rapist was and then he
died like a second later in frontof her. But I have a theory
that that conversation is going to bewhat sets Celesque down a darker path and
eventually ends leads to her like slippingup or confessing by the season finale thoughts.

(32:52):
I mean, I kind of hopeyou're right. I feel like I
would love to see Celeste have likesome sort of big moment of some kind,
Like I think that would be veryinteresting. Yeah, And I think
we're building up to that, justbecause we saw so much of We had
so many reminders of passive Celeste tothis episode, even with her mother in

(33:13):
law there, like where she's it'sit's manifesting in her dreams or she's dreaming
that she's a monster and she's youknow, waking up going I'm going to
fucking kill you. Like clearly youknow there's something is going to give.
We had that whole scene with thescreaming where it's clear that Mary Louise is

(33:34):
like gonna like knife you in thefront, like like you know she's right,
Like she's gonna she's gonna she's gonnatalk to you, and she's gonna
smile and say terrible things while she'ssmiling at you, and you might not
see her coming, you might turnaround if you're doing the dishes, but
she's still gonna do it in thefront, whereas I think Celeste right now

(34:01):
is yeah right, it's Celeste rightnow. It's in this space where she's
repressing everything that it's just not gonnagonna end. Well yeah, oh oh,
I hope you're right. I thinkthat'll be great. Yeah, But
also, like, how much longercan she possibly live with Mary Louise?
How suffocating would that be? Iknow, well, thankfully Mary Louise is

(34:24):
finding her own place to rent,right, but she's not leaving her San
Francisco, which would probably be bestcase scenario. Go home, don't bring
your home closer, just go home. Yeah. I have to say I
did feel really bad for Celeste thisepisode, because it has to be difficult
to have all these great memories andthen all these horrible memories at once.

(34:46):
I mean, the psychology of anabuse victim doesn't just stop when the abuser
is dead, right, yeah,right, Well, and I think that's
always been what this show has doneso well is to really show domestic abuse
in a more nuanced and three sixtyview than we usually see on television,
and I think that's why it resonatedwith a lot of people. Yeah,

(35:09):
m is that definitely because even withthe perioveal in season one, like you
know, in the beginning, itwas very loving and then the aggression was
very subtle, and then you knowit was there and you were like,
oh, it's this this rough sexor you know, like is this just
how they like it? And thenyou're like, oh no, no,
no, no, this is likethis is definitely not and then you know

(35:31):
it falomed like abuse. So Idon't know, it's just right. It's
interesting the way that it's prison,it's the show has presented such a such
a delicate you know whatever. Allright, um, do you want to
talk about Nata at all? Uh? I have to say that she looked

(35:53):
freaking fierce in her photo shoot.Yep. I love love her, love
her lead, and I hope shegets to do more this season because I
feel like, out of all ofour amazing cast of women, Laura Dern
does not get as much to do, and she is just as good and
just as talented as the other ladies. So I hope she like he has

(36:15):
something like something really big and funto do. Me too, and I
think she will what's up with herhusband though? Yes, Okay, first
of all, I love and Slashlaughed at the fact that he was drinking
like bourbon in his man cave withhis fucking you know. Yeah, well,

(36:37):
what's it called? Like the trainsgoing around? Um they have a
name, which I said before andI was making fun about loud, but
yeah, with the model trains likejust going around. That was so ridiculous,
and I mean, I guess youdo you brom But it was funny
because my husband was like, oh, you know, this is definitely fragile

(36:57):
male ego, like on the screenright now, totally. Do you think
that he didn't like that she wasbeing photographed by other people? Yeah?
I think he was totally jealous.Didn't they have like this kind of weird
thing in the first season two withthe fact that she was very successful?
Well, that's the thing. AndI was trying to remember because it's like
they said it, like that sceneis so very clear and pointed, but

(37:21):
I couldn't remember. I remember themhaving sex in the first season, Yeah,
I couldn't remember how we got there, so sort of like, well,
is that going to set up?Are we going to find out more
about like why why that bothered himso much late? Right? Yeah,
I wonder no, because I thoughtit. I mean, I might be
misremembering, but in the first seasonI thought that he liked that about her,

(37:43):
and I thought so too, beinglike you could ass and like these
other women don't be right. Don'tthink make me feel bad, because like
you do all these things and you'reon these boards and you're awesome. Yeah,
I thought so too. But nowthat you say it something it's a
possible boiler from the book that Istill haven't read. But Taja, who's

(38:04):
read the book, mentioned something tome. I will not mention it on
the podcast in case people haven't readthe book. But I don't know if
it's something they're going to use inthe show or not, but it could
explain a little bit of what's goingon. Well, I don't know if
this was something from our feedback ornot that somebody or if I read it
in the only thing that I readabout it today, somebody said that the

(38:24):
plot one of the plot lines forthis season, or maybe the plot line
is something that was rejected as abook plot line. Oh oh interesting,
that is cool. I could bea hundredth thou rejected in the writing of
the book or in the book andrejected from the show. I feel like

(38:45):
it was it was a left becauseLeanne Moriarty was the responsible She co did
the with David E. Kelly.They co came up with the season,
the story for this season, andI think I feel like it was a
dropped plot point from see the book. Okay, yeah, I think anyway,

(39:06):
if it's what, if you've readthe book, you'll know what we're
talking about and alluding to. Andmaybe I should read the book now because
I never I never did, butI haven't either. I'd like to actually
know what this is. From Matt, one of our listeners and friends,
he said, interesting, interested tosee how they No, it's not.
Maybe it's not. Okay, Okay, it's not. Then I don't know.

(39:30):
I swear I read it somewhere today, and you know, I,
like I said, I only readour Facebook feedback and oh, anyway,
keep going with what you were goingto say. While I said that,
because oh, yes it is,he did say it. He said it
didn't. He said, it's interestingconsidering the entire premise for season two was

(39:57):
dismissed in the book. As adumb plan. So that must mean that
the in the book, which Iknow this is terrible, don't hate us
listeners in the book, they mustdismiss the say that he fell backwards,
because that's the whole premise for this. But you know what, Matt can
pretty much give us feedback once helistens to this and let us know what

(40:20):
he was talking about. Yeah,ok, yeah, Before we move on
though, to more feedback, Ijust had two more points that I actually
thought were kind of interesting to talkabout, and that would be with Jane.
I thought that it was interesting thatshe had the scene with the octopus
and then mentioned like why is itthe prettier something is the more dangerous it
is, and then talks about likehow you know, in nature, the

(40:45):
pretty is to like disarm them,right, the there was that scene where
she had the kids. Yeah,she's talking about how certain animals essentially like
eat the males, the females eatthe males. Yeah. Yeah. And
then I thought that it was interestingthat in her drawing of Perry at the

(41:07):
end she had the octopus like aroundhis head, because the first time I
watched it, I thought it waslike, I don't know, some kind
of devil horns or whatever. Andthen the second time I watched it,
I was like, oh, that'san octopus that so it kind of tied
back to me the second time.I don't know, I thought just thought
that was interesting, you know,like they talked about Celeste being a monster

(41:31):
in her dream, and then theytalked about like, you know, the
women having to you know, eatthe men, and it was kind of
weird, like do you have toturn into a monster to defeat a monster
kind of theme. So yeah,that was That was the more I guess
serious thing that I wrote down.And then the other thing that I wanted

(41:52):
to talk about was the my favoritescene of the whole episode, which was
when Ed was in the groceries storewith a lady that got the job.
Yeah, who is she? Arewe supposed to remember? I don't know
who she is. I don't thinkwe're supposed to know who she is.
I think that it's just really funnyand maybe they're setting up that they're going
to have an affair or something interesting. During that whole scene, we were

(42:15):
like, is that our Whole Foods? The conclusion that it's probably not,
but most Whole Foods look alike,so is that our watermelon display. Yeah,
it's definitely a whole food so soyeah, that's so funny. Well,
speaking of um, let's move intoour next little uh segment. I

(42:37):
guess which is going to be Shandy'sBlissful Drip. Maybe the Blissful Shandy.
I don't know. Something that soundsa little suggestive, does it? Though
maybe not a wonderful way. Ohoh I just got that. Oh I
did not put that together. Whatabout the full Shandy? No, still

(43:02):
I don't know. I'm I'm achild. I'm sorry. The locals interlude.
Yeah, let's well workshop our hometownhero. Yeah, we'll workshop it.
But I like, I still likeShandy's Blissful Drip because you know,
I'm also a child. Well,I did want to mention the Blissful Drip

(43:27):
Cafe Um, which we saw inthat scene. It is fun fact not
in Montere. Um also doesn't exist, but they built that set in Pacific
Grove, which is right next toMotere like connected, okay, and it's
at Lover's Point, which is alittle park um that's really pretty and cute.
And I literally was like ran bythat spot one day during marathon training

(43:53):
when the cafe was out and liketotally stopped and was like, oh,
this is gonna be for Big LittleEyes. It was like right before they
started filming. So I have somepictures of that somewhere that I'll put up
on our Instagram. Awesome. Yeah, they took it down afterwards, but
they actually donated it to the Cityof Pacific Grove. Yes. Cool.

(44:14):
Apparently they also made an agreement thatthe company can access it again for a
potential season three, so that's awesome. Yeah. So it's like it's a
functioning like coffee bar. It couldwell. So I don't know what the
City of Pacific Grove actually did withit. I don't know like if it's
going to be on this play somewhereor what. But I'm gonna be like

(44:36):
their gazebo Ala Salzburg and the soundof Music tourists will come and visit the
the coffee bar could be. Iwas kind of surprised that they didn't leave
it there, But I don't knowif there's like you know, rules and
stuff because it's the park and thenlike I don't think they could actually have
a cafe there. But anyway,so, um, so there's that.

(44:58):
I also thought it was really interestingthat Jane works at the monterri By Aquarium,
So like she had the shirt andeverything and that's like all legit and
checks out. But I was kindof this is one of those things where
it's like super not important, butum, she was an accountant last season.

(45:19):
Yeah, so I'm like, whenI see her with the Monorai Bay
Aquarium, I'm sure I'm assuming she'slike doing accounting for the aquarium. It
didn't seem like that, And sothen it was like, well, does
she like volunteer at the aquarium?They have a big volunteer program, um,
because I just like, how ifshe has a background and accounting,
Like, how would she have gottena job at the at the aquarium.
It's not like they yeah, superunqualified and like they have you know,

(45:43):
I'm sure any time a job opensup, they have just like tons and
tons and tons and tons and tonsof applicants. Um, so maybe she
does volunteer. I don't know.It was interesting, but they had said
that they wanted to use they wantedto film more like in Monterrey this time
around, so that it was likea kind of a cool shout out,
which, yeah, do you thinkit was already overpacked all the time,

(46:04):
So now it's going to be justlike so, okay, two thoughts here,
because that's a good point, butbecause I I remembered she was accountant,
and then I kind of forgot whenI was watching it. Do you
think that she's either doing a secondjob or she's got all this settlement money
from Perry's a stage that she's like, I'm gonna follow my dreams. But
she also said she wasn't cashing anyof them. She wasn't cashing the ones

(46:28):
for Ziggy, but she was cashingthe ones for herself. I don't know
for herself though, it's it wouldjust be for Ziggy. Yeah, it's
just like survivor's benefit. Like that'strue. Like, yeah, that's a
good point. Okay, forgot Isaid anything interesting, Like her her home
is different, like sort of yeah, she's in a new place for sure.

(46:49):
Redone her character and I'm curious ifit's story motivated or you know,
Shandy, as you said, they'rejust trying to like use more places in
Monterey to shoot, and they definitely, um the like filmed that, like
um the beach that she's dancing onlike that I recognize that, Like that's

(47:13):
one of the beaches that I couldwalk to. Um. There are times
though, and it was fun likewatching with like other locals, because like
that scene where Bonnie is running,Yeah, that's that's not here, um,
but it's close. Tasia thought itwas an Aptose, which is just
north of here. But for allthose places, we're like, okay,
wait, where's that? Do yourecognize that? Where? Where's this cafe?

(47:34):
Where the fires with all the fires? I don't know where that is.
I don't know if it's it couldbe a set. There was a
place like that for last season,but right I hope it's real. It
just looks so fun. It totallylooks like a bar I would totally love
to go to. Yeah, yeah, yes, awesome. Well anything else
from the local insight segment of theshow, Um, those are the major

(47:58):
ones that that stood out. AndI again, I will find those pictures
of the Blissful Drip cafe and postthem and I will have my eyes out
and my eyes peeled next episode.Yes, and she means like the actual
show, not Hersful Drip. Sorry, wait on what I said, not

(48:20):
your your Blissful Drip mich Again,I'm so sorry. I really did not.
I mean usually I do this done. That was a total totally accident
and if you want to check themout on our Instagram page. Um,
you can follow us on Instagram atthe Broadcasters three and we like to do

(48:43):
fun things on our Instagram, soyou know, check that out. But
moving on, we've got let's see, we've got a couple of more.
We have a voicemail, so let'smove into the feedback portion of the show.
We've got a voicemail, and thenwe've got another email from Dennis and
then I guess we'll wrap it upand call it a night. So do

(49:06):
you guys want to get to Will'svoice now? Yes? Do it?
Hello, this is Will. Iam at home sick today. If I
saw you were looking for feedback forBig Little Lives and I just had to
send you some and it going intothe season, I'm kind of wondering,
like, you know, what theformat's going to be because last season they

(49:30):
did the whole interrogations in the presentflashbacks to the past, and just kind
of hoping it'll be as good asthe first season because second seasons a lot
of times aren't, And also justkind of wondering is it even necessary because
I don't know if it has evermeant to be more than one season.
But I was really excited to getback into the show, and I was

(49:52):
not disappointed. I just loved thatepisode, especially missus Merrill Sreet, one
of my favorite actresses. She's anational treasure. She's throwing so much shade.
I mean, she's the new Queenof Shade on HBO. Sorry,
Lady Tyrrell from Game of Thrones,but I think he's been dethroned. I

(50:12):
think she knows exactly what she's doingher character. It took me a while
to remember, you know, whosome of these people were and how they're
all related. But once he getback into it, um, uh,
Reese's I don't give a fuck aboutall those people that hadn't me dying laughing
just because you know it's so her, so her character. Um, even

(50:37):
though I don't, I kind ofhate Riese Witherspoon. Um. There's one
cute guy who worked at the Iguess Aquatic Center with the single mother,
the one whose father was his father. Her child was Alexander scars Guard.
He was really cute. But mLaurie Dern, I think I love Lord

(51:00):
Derek now more than ever ever since, like she was in Twin Peaks the
Return and then Star Wars. She'salso so I'm just really looking forward to
seeing how this season on the foldsand I was and he has been a
while since I've seen any kind offeedback, but I will talk to you
soon hopefully. Bye. It wasso good to hear from Will. It's

(51:24):
been such a long time since we'vegotten a Will voicemail, and they are
generally our favorites on the broadcast.Well, wasn't he one of our earlier
early contributors to the broadcast? Okay, yeah, here we are again starting
out another podcast and Will write themthank you. Who Oh, he was
one of the contributors on our veryfirst episode huh one hundred and thirty four,

(51:52):
five episodes ago at this point.Not that I knew that off the
top of my head, but Itotally knew that off the top of my
head and one episode ago for thebig little broad Little life. So but
thank you, Will. It wasreally great to hear from you. And
Um, I have to agree withall the Matlin stuff of course. Uh,

(52:16):
she just she cracks me up.Um, not because I would ever
say anything like she said, butjust because in general she cracks me up.
Um, And of course Merrill isa national treasure. I don't know
if you can say she's the newLady Tyrrell though, uh, I think

(52:37):
the jury is going to have tobe out on that. She's gonna have.
We have to see what she doesat the end. I mean,
if she if she somehow turns aroundAmanda earmuffs for a second. Amanda hasn't
seen Gama Thrones yet. Emuffs whenyou have headphones, it's like reverse reversed
earmuff. So if she at theend of this season, if she like

(53:00):
freaking turns to Madeline and is likeit was me, then then she can
totally be the new Lady Tyrrell.And Amanda is back, And if anybody

(53:20):
any re ear muffed, she's remuffed. Okay, First of all, why
is that saying that you're remuffed?Why is that less dirty than talking about
Shandy splicful drift. I just wantto add, oh no, it's still
bad. Okay, Perhaps we shouldhave said this at the very beginning of
the show. We're not typically asafe for work podcast, a safe for

(53:44):
driving in the car with your childrenif they are under a certain age.
Yeah, I marked us the uh, you know TV fourteen and up explicit.
When I submitted the feed, socool, you knew, well it
was more me. I was like, how long can I make it without
making an saying an F word?And then I made it like a good

(54:06):
twenty minutes, and I was realproud of myself. I dropped a freaking
or a freaking so did I lookat that? I don't even hear them
anymore. They're just I know.I was literally gonna say, I'm like,
but you haven't dropped an F bomb. One ear muff and out the
other in one email, I doonly wear one one muff. It drips

(54:27):
another one pulls back because otherwise it'stwo noise canceling and it is uncomfortable.
It drips into one muff, andI got to keep one ear free to
hear the outside world. It dripsfrom one muff to another. Okay anyway,
Oh okay, good times, goodtimes. Moving on. We have

(54:50):
one more email from Dennis. Isit my turn to read an email?
Yes? Okay, well then Iwill read the email. Dennis, another
wonderful broadcast contributor and friend. Yay. Dennis says, thanks for podcasting about
Big Little Eyes. I forgot howangry this show made me with its violence.
I'm hoping there are fewer flashbacks neededin the coming episodes, but in

(55:14):
any event, I look forward toa spirited discussion throughout the season. It
sounds like Dennis had a trigger.As for episode one, it's my understanding
that a second season wasn't planned untilthe successive season one was apparent, so
a scramble to come up with aplot is understandable, but not choosing the

(55:36):
obvious self defense route for the charactersis a little hard to believe. Oh
well, what's done is done,and we'll just have to make do with
the acting of Meryl Streep. Shedid not disappoint last night. No she
was not. No no. Ps. Did you catch the Marist pennant on
the wall with several others, mostif not all of them California schools in

(55:58):
the Counselor's office? A coincidence?Or did Shandy pull some strings? Uh?
P? S S or pps.My favorite line from the surfer dude
to Jane, are you on aspectrum? I's try I forgot about that.
That real weird and She's like,I don't know, are you like?

(56:19):
So? Why do they call it? A spectrum. No, no,
I super did not see the marissI didn't and now I want to
go back and watch that scene again. So background information, Amanda and I
went to Merris College. Yea classof Yeah, class of thirteen years ago.

(56:42):
So whenever you're listening to this,just do the it was thirteen years
ago from them, Yeah, fromthen. So if you're listening to this
thirteen years from now, we'll takeit. We'll take it. Oh,
good times, good times. Uh. Yeah. So I think that the
not obvious self defense route kind ofspeaks to what we were talking about earlier

(57:05):
on with It's interesting that Madeline wouldautomatically be like, you know, this
was he fell, instead of likehe was kicking my friend in the face
and then went to go punch myyou know, choke my other friend and
like didn't he make a move tohit her too in that scene Like that,

(57:28):
they wouldn't be like we pushed himbecause we were trying to get the
big scary man away from us.But yeah, I do think that's the
most obvious thing to say. Butagain I can accept it on the premise
of like, I don't know,I mean, I've never pushed someone to
their death, but I would haveassumed that, like it's also scary that

(57:49):
you couldn't be believed that. Yeah, it's just a lot of stuff that
goes into that. Yeah, well, part of me wonders, it's like,
well, if you sort of gothe logical route, then where does
the story go? Like this way, because that's true is like so very
clearly flimsy. It gives you alot of places to take the drama truth

(58:10):
truth, I'll give you that.That's actually, yeah, it's definitely more
of a season two TV plot thana although I don't know a real life
situation. I don't know. Ifeel like in real life somebody also might
be exactly like we talked about,where they don't want to you know,
they want to be moved on withlike he just fell or whatever plush you

(58:31):
can in control. And actually anotheranother thing to consider. And I don't
know if this is plausible, likefor this particular story or like if you
if I mean it's plausible, Idon't know if it's like a reason that
people can accept. But like soif you go down the route of the
truth, like this requires m celesteto basically like go public or at least,

(58:55):
you know, public with the policeabout being into my stick abuse survivor.
Um, that requires Jane to gopublic about the rape rapes, like,
you know, like it's maybe verythat's very true. That's a great
point that Matt. She was sortof protecting the whole rather than the individuals.

(59:22):
Yeah. Yeah, especially in atown that we already know is so
so ripe with gossip and the gossipmill, and it's all about like who's
talking about what and who's got thedirt on whom. Yeah. Yeah,
I think you make a very goodpoint. Yeah, that's a great point.
Okay, let's leave that on that. Um, before we wrap this

(59:44):
show up, do we want totalk about the music real quick? Um?
There was some great music as always. I mean, the first season
soundtrack is awesome. Uh, I'mbad at music. I know that there
was a Nirvana cover in this byShand O'Connor. I know that the Jane
and Ziggie dance around a bad reputation, which I thought was probably you know,

(01:00:08):
fun for them, and also sortof Jane's attitude in general in the
town. What else was there?Well? According to Radio Times dot Com,
they have for their playlist for seasontwo. Um, they've cold Little
Hearts by Michael Muka, which isthe show opened the theme music that we

(01:00:36):
all know and love so much.They don't have, um the calling the
song you just mentioned. I don'tgive a damn about my bad reputation.
Who sings that? You said it? I was listening, I promise.
What the isn't that? What's hername? Joan Jets? Yeah, they

(01:00:58):
don't have that listed here on thelist, but it was obviously there.
Um. So what they do haveis I'll Be Around by the Spinners,
What Becomes of the Brokenhearted by Jimmyruffin It's My House Diana Ross, Mystery
of Love Sufyan Stevens, which wasthe song when Jane is Dancing on the

(01:01:22):
Beach, because yes, that wasSmith's song, Yes, and Stevens another
lovely male falsettoed crooner Um. Therewas the the Rip by Porta's Head,
uh Fade out Lines by Uh theAvner and phoebe Killed here, Harvest Moon

(01:01:47):
by Cassandra Wilson. And then thelast song they have listed is the Schnade
O'Connor cover of the Neravada song AllApologies. Yeah, it was definitely,
thank you, Amanda, it wasI you know, music was on point
as always always so but all right, that I think that does it for

(01:02:08):
our first episode. Does anybody elsehave any last minute thoughts that they want
to talk about? Would you,guys ever get a boob job to cover
up a nose job like a badnose? It seems a little extreme,
does it? Though? It madeher husband real mad so because it depends
on how much you hate your nose. It's very true she kind of had

(01:02:31):
a fine nose from straight on,so so yeah, but anyway, okay,
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page? Is that Broad's three.I'm terrible at Twitter. One On Twitter?

(01:03:58):
I all right, okay, welllet's hold that. Check out on
our Instagram it is more current.It is very current. There's different ways
to get in touch with us asalways, but you know, we would
love to hear from you. Wewould love to have great So because this
is a new feed, we needall of your reviews on iTunes if that's
okay. If you have a minuteand you're listening on your podcast app,

(01:04:21):
it's probably on the others. Twoif you can, you can just like
you know, scroll up and getto the bottom of it and give us
a review. That way, it'sreally easy nowadays, but that would really
help us out a lot. Tohelp us with the iTunes thing, and
then check us out at the broadcast. We're actually going to be live on
Tuesday the eleventh, doing our thirdbirthday party and then moving into season four,

(01:04:46):
So we would love if you couldjoin us, and if you want
to listen to us going forward,we have a lot of fun there every
week. Thank you to the patrons. Again, if you'd like to be
on bati and go to patreon dotcom slash Jane Jack or we're going to
Jane Jack dot com and click onthe become a Patron link that's on the
little button that's on the top rightof the website. Thank you to the

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patrons that contribute a certain level,and that would be Eckhart Tack from Tokyo
U, Maggie the Magnificent, Joannewith a plan Ed the Creepy Mailman,
and h Drake the distributor who Isaw last week actually in person. We
went geokashing. It was fun.Yeah, good times, good times.

(01:05:32):
But yeah, thanks again guys anduh we appreciate you listening and we will
see you next week. On anote, my name is Colleen my name
is Amanda Pea. Sad everybody,bye, bye,
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