Broad Little Lies Ep. 1.5: "Kill Me"

Shandy, Amanda, and Colleen discuss HBO's "Big Little Lies," season 2, episode 5, "Kill Me," including Shandy's big star turn as an extra on the episode!

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Hello, and welcome the broad LittleEyes with a Man of Shanny and Colleen.
My name is Colleen, my nameis a man, and welcome to
the show, everybody. We arehere to talk about season two, episode
five of Big Little Lies, titledkill Me. Also in Big News,
this episode stirred the wonderful Shandy Lamprolet. Yeah, that's right, at least

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my backside, at least your backside, which I have to tell you.
I had it on closed captioning whileI was watching it, so I posted
the screen cap on my Instagram storylast night, and the screen cap was
it said look at this view,and Ed goes, it is pretty.
And then Greg messaged me and said, are they talking about her booty?

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Yes, it is suggested that way. And I will have you know that
in that scene, the uncut versionof that scene, I do start out
in front of them. Yeah.I actually. Okay, So now you
have to tell us more about yourscene. Let's just do the local stuff
first, because I want to hearall about it. Inquiring minds mostly us

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want to know desperately, and we'vebeen waiting for a very long time to
finally get the dirt. So still, all right, I can't even remember
what I said on the broadcast,but whatever, I'm sure I've forgotten by
now anyway, So okay, sothey they do the scene and we were
told that the scene is supposed tobe a Slan, which is like off

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hot Springs down in Big Sir.It's super expensive. So I've never been,
so I was like really excited thatwe're going to finally go to Slon.
And fun fact, I was justgoogling their webs site, like they
have the institute. They do likecontinuing education and workshops and some like sort
of new New Ag type things.But I happen to find this workshop that

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they're putting on. It's like youcan get twenty hours twenty six hours of
continuing education, um and but it'scalled the workshop title it was holding me
tight Workshop for Couples. I waslike, hmmmmm, that sounds sounds like
maybe a source of inspiration. It'sactually going on. It's like coming up
if anyone's interested in signing up.Okay, but it's super long anyway,

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So I was excited we were goingto Lan. We were not going to
Slon. We so they took usdown did like you know, hair and
makeup. That's when I was inthe in the trailer, like they gave
us stuff to wear, and um, they did. They didn't do makeup,
but they did a little bit ofhair. And I was in there
with another woman who was doing thescene with us, like another extra,

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and she was like elbowing me,like, looked, you're right, and
that's when I looked over and sawAdam Scott And that was the first like
oh my god. Um. Andthen they they took us down to where
we were shooting, which is it'slike, uh down Highway One going towards
Bixter, but it's way before theBixby Bridge, and it's just this amazing

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property. I don't know if peopleactually live there or if they just rent
it out or what, but it'sit's just like it's huge and it's beautiful
and it's like right on the cliffbasically, with a lot of different sort
of buildings. And when we gotthere, everyone, like the crew was
telling everyone as they arrived to likebe careful because in between the papers,

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like the paving stones, there wasthis sort of this plant called baby tears,
and the owners of the property hadinstructed them very strictly to be careful
of that because it's really fragile andso you're not supposed to walk on it.
So it's like in between these thingsthat you're walking on, but you're
not supposed to walk on it.So we heard that in the morning,
and when they told it to AdamScott, he made some joke about,

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like, oh, good thing,they put it where you're supposed to walk.
So then they're like getting us readyand they what they were looking for.
Originally they were looking for couples,which is why they called me and
Frank. And then they decided thatme, Frank and this other person would
like work at Esslin and then theother couples would be in the scenes when

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they're doing the couple's therapy. Andso originally they were going to have Frank
carrying the luggage. So basically it'slike you know, somebody working there who
shows them in and like shows themto their room and just like carries the
luggage. And Frank was like,oh, in case anybody is new listener,
not a broadcast crossover listener, right, thank you, So he was

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like standing ready to go. MReese, Witherspoon and Adam Scott weren't like
standing yet, but they're probably doingI don't know, doing whatever actors do
to get ready, and they decidedthat actually they wanted me to do it.
And the reason I heard was thatthey were looking for somebody, Um
what was the birth they used,not eclectic, eccentric? I think,

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yes, um, somebody eccentric.They wanted an eccentric look. So apparently
that's what I have. Well,they did, you are right headed,
lefty. Yeah, it's true,very very true. So they stand me
up and I you know, I'mstanding there with like, you know,

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the empty suitcases that I'm carrying down, and then they decide that, oh,
actually the director wants to give mea line, and so they like
whisk me away, outfit me withthe mic and everything, and they're telling
me like, okay, so you'regonna you're gonna like, you know,
um bring them in, and you'regonna tell them to be careful of the
baby tears. It's really fragile thatplant. And then like show them,

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you know, to their room andtell them like where it is. And
so I'm like kind of like adeer in headlights at this point because this
is really cool, but also they'relike, you know, something like that.
It doesn't have to be verbatim,like no, no, no,
no, no, Like you don'tunderstand I'm not an actress, Like it
actually does have to be VERBETI I'mnot like improving here. Of course,

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this was all just my like innermonologue. But so they tell me more
or less what to say. Weget ready. I'm like, so I'm
standing in front of every se Witherspoonand Adam Scott and like there's a camera
like shooting us from from the front, and basically like I say my line
and then sort of let them passbecause they're obviously a little bit more important
for the shot than me, andthey like walk down and that's how the

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scene, that part of the scenegoes, And so we shot that a
couple of times, and it wassuper trippy because every time we'd have to
go back up, so somebody fromthe crew would like take the empty suitcase
from me and carry them back up. Oh my god. Yeah, So
we did that a few times andand then from there they like go off

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and then that took a while toshoot, and then the rest of the
day was spent essentially with them shootingthe therapy stuff, and so they were
in this other little like structure this, you know whatever. There are multiple
little buildings. Yeah, so therein that place where where where the therapy
happens, and we're like sort ofoff to the side, so I didn't

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really see like what was happening inthere. I just knew they were shooting
some like the therapy session essentially likegroup therapy, and so that took a
long time. And then occasionally theywould have us like like um, Frank
and myself, like at certain points, we they would give us like towels
to like walk from like one buildingto the other kind of in the background
as if we were actually at workthere. Oh cool, nice, Yeah

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sure, yeah, so like therewas a possibility that Frank and I would
have both been in in the scene. But yeah, so that took basically
all day. And then when Iwas getting towards like the sun setting,
that's when they had like a hardact to go and film the scene of
the car crash with Nicole Kidman thatwe saw in what was like the first

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episode the second episode yeah U soyeah, so it was really interesting to
see like an entire day's work andall the money because like I still like
so they cut my line, butlike I still got paid for that.
Yeah, so all all that filming, like all of those hours of work

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condensed down into like five seconds.It was crazy, even like the therapy
thing, and like I can understand. I mean, it's kind of a
bummer that you only see my backsideand that my line was cut, but
I mean whatever, it's fine.But I was I was really surprised that
the therapy thing was so was overso quickly. Also, I really thought

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that they were like gonna do morewith it, because then it's like,
well, why did that scene whydid they even have it at all?
I mean, I guess it showsthat like they're trying and whatever, but
like it was just over in suchlike in such a fast blink of an
eye. But yeah, that wasthat was a whole day issue. It's

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like and it's like that felt soweird to me that it was so short,
And I can't think it's just becauseof the bias of like we knew
this was coming, we knew wewere in the scene, and we had
sort of built it up in ourheads. Like I can't be like it
was just like that bias coming intoplay. I think it just the scene
felt really like a naturally short giveit how much time that show likes to

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take with things. Totally, it'slike, if you're not paying attention,
you don't even realize it happened.And my first thought, of course,
it is like, oh my god, was so terrible that they couldn't use
it. I really don't think thatit was that, because the other stuff,
like all the stuff at at thegroup therapy was also completely cut also,
so yeah, I think the episodewas just too long and they had

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to make decisions yeah, in thecutting room, and I think it was
almost like it became a catalyst forlike the two conversations that Madeline and Ed
have in the car going and comingback totally yeah, right, which I
can concede and understand it's more important. That's fine, right, But it's
just, yeah, it was kindof surreal. I was like, oh

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yeah, but like at the endof the day, I still acted a
scene with Reese Witherspoon Alas Scott andI still have those memories and nothing can
take that away. Goddamn it.Yes, but it was fun too because
I posted on the broadcast Instagram apicture of I mean, from from that
day and then like the actual sceneon HBO and I've been like sitting on

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that picture for oh like yeah,over a year now, because we lesn't
think like we weren't supposed to takepictures of course, of like the set
or anything like that. And thenso at the end of the day,
at the end of the day filming, we asked, like the guy I
don't even know his job tattle was, but guy who had been like handling
us, We asked if we couldjust take like a selfie and he was

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basically like, well, you know, you're not supposed to, but if
you just don't like post it onsocial media, you know, until right
until the show comes out, likeyou know, everyone everyone's gonna like,
well, you know, turn ablind eye. But because it was the
kind of day where the sun wasjust kind of crazy, like we were

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trying to take these selfies and notbe seen taking selfies because we weren't supposed
to be taking the selfies and thesun was crazy, and so literally,
when I looked back the other day, every single picture in there like that
I took is terrible and we're likesquinting and it's just like the lighting is
terrible. They're just so so bad. So I tried to doctor it up

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and make it a little bit better. But you can see the polo shirts
that we're wearing are like, yeah, so that was like where we were
working quote unquote, which of coursedoesn't say a salon, it says let
me see you know, I can'teven remember, yeah, Osana. Yeah,

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but even that was fun because theyhad just to see like wardrobe and
how that works, and they hadthey had that stuff just in like various
sizes. And it was kind oflike a last minute decision too, because
originally they wanted us because we werea couple and right, and then they
decided, oh no, we needsome work to Like, Yeah, it
was pretty cool. I'm wondering ifbecause this was supposed to be like a

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couple's weekend kind of thing. Right, You're carrying their bags and Madeline's talking
about like the fire pots and everything. So I wonder if the whole everything
was originally different and their scenes thatare in the car end up happening like
at the retreat place or whatever,and then they reworked it. Could that
be possible? I have no idea, but you make a good point,

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Like the way that it comes offin the show is like they went down
for like two hours and then andthen drove back up where like they were
clearly staying overnight, right, Andthat's how a lot of these, like
a lot of these workshops to son are like weekend workshops or like five
day workshops, which interestingly enough costs, Like I mean, the cost is

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kind of insane for a weekend workshop. It's like it's like four hundred,
five hundred dollars if you're sleeping ina sleeping bag. So if you actually
get a room, it's like you'retalking right over a thousand dollars. Anyway,
that's neither here nor there. UmSo, tell us about Mason,
Adam. Did they talk to youlong? So? Um So, I

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was standing in front of them,and like you know, I turned around
and they shook my hand and introducedyourselves, which was funny because like you
know, when Adam Scott tells you, like, hi, my name's Adam,
you're like again internal monologue, Yeah, thank you for acting like you're
just a normal person. Like that'snice, and so you know, I

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introduced myself. They were both supernice, and actually that was one of
I really remember from the whole experiencewas that everyone was just super nice from
from the caterers, you know,to the director, to the crew to
the actual like you know, freakingmovie stars. Like everyone was super nice
and everyone called us all by ourfirst names, which I'm so impressed,

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and I think we talked about thatbefore. I'm sure it's like a skill
that they purposefully work on, butlike it's still really impressive. Yeah,
it was really fun. Yeah,it was. It was a really really
fun experience. They were they werejust so like courteous and nice to everyone.
Sweet. You'll have to try itagain for season three. Yeah.
Actually, I mean if they ifthey do a season three and they still

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like film my hair and call forextras, we will answer that call,
yes, And I would imagine theyprobably like and shows like that. They
put such a like a stake inhaving local people being be extras that I
wonder that if you're like in forone season, they'll like invite you back,

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like you know, like you're inthat you can like I think they
had said that, you know,even for season two. I think that
they had said basically if you werein season one or if you were in
extra season one, like you Idon't know, I can't remember if it
was you didn't have to wait inline, like to there was something something,

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there was something right exactly. Don'tquote me on that exactly, but
I do remember there was something whereit was like if you were in the
first season, then you had betterchances or something, or you didn't cool
so I like it. Yeah,you should be like, hey, I
don't remember. Yeah, hey we'rein a first meeting, right, He'll
be like I learned your name fora day and then forgot it because like

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there's only so much something that's morecommon like exactly Sarah, yeah or Emily.
I thank very yeah. Yeah,well, very exciting, very exciting.
Do you guys want to get intothat discussion? Thank you so much
for sharing that with us, ShandyUm, I'm sure that we're gonna randomly,
like ask you more things about itand probably maybe talk about on the

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broadcast tomorrow too. So, withoutfurther ado, what did you guys think
of the episode? Overall? Itwas a lot slower pace, but there
was so much in it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there definitely was.
I took a lot of notes.I did as well. Yeah,

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I had a lot more like thiswasn't this like this episode? Definitely I
liked it and I like I thinkit pushed the story ahead a lot,
and we're gonna see I mean,but I don't want to talk about the
previews for next week, but itlooks like things are moving rather quickly now.
But at the same time, theepisode didn't have that like overall feeling

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of like frenetic energy like some ofthe other ones have had. I guess
does that make sense coming off ofyou know, an episode where there was
a giant disco party for an eightyear old. Right, it was a
slow burn. Right. We startedoff with Jane dreaming about like the incident
that happened, And we've seen We'veseen uh, Madeline dreaming about it,

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We've seen Celeste dreaming about it.We've seen I think everybody dream about it
except for Nada, right or Renatahas even had flashbacks to it. Right.
And to me, it's I thinkand I rewatched it Jay and my
husband and I both rewatched it basedon this theory. Is to me,
I think that we're seeing subtle differencesin this scene from different characters point of

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view. Yeah, yeah, no, I think you're You're totally totally right,
And I like, I like howthere's a different element that they add
each time we see the scene,Like, yes, yes, it's very
clearly through a different lens because it'sseen through a different character's perspective, But
like there's just subtle different. Ithink it's just like there's these little textual

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things that get added each time wesee it, even though you know it's
still it's every different characters through theirlens, So there is subtly different just
because of that. But there's differentelements of sound. There's a little more
murmur that gets added with each week, and you can start to hear a
bit of like what they're saying,whereas I think the first time we saw

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it was completely silent, which isjust like one of those cool things.
And I think just throughout the series, the show plays with that the idea
of sound and how we perceive soundwith image. But I love how just
yeah, like each episode we geta little more a little more about how
each character reacted after Perry's fall,and I'm just I'm excited to get the

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full full scope by by the lastepisode. Yes, and so do you
think, because as you guys haveboth kind of mentioned, every time,
it's sort of from somebody else's pointof view, and this was episode five.
There are five of them than theMonari five. So, like in
theory, we've now gotten through eachone. So like, what will it

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be then for the next two Oh, do you think we'll get it from
Perry's perspective? We need Elizabeth towake up and give us, like,
you know, touch something that Perry'stouch. I mean I kind of hope
not, because I feel like they'dbe super lame and super cheesy. It

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would be super lame and super cheesy. But you know. Still, Um,
so the screen is just black forthe first like thirty seconds of the
next week's episode, just see likepushing it women, and then all of
a sudden like just over odd upstairsand black. But but Sandy, that

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is a good point that we nowhave seen it through each one's lens.
So we've been through five. Sonow what is it going to be next
week? Are they going to moveaway from this motif or are they going
to like double down and it's gonnabe something even bigger? I think personally,
I think until the truth comes out, we're going to double down in

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the motif. But um, okay, so who do we want to talk
about first? Do we want totalk about the Celeste, Mary Louise stuff.
Yeah, that's pretty intense. Ifeel like now we also we've called
out to therapists to kind of getlike what is the best way to do
therapy? Now we need to callout to our lawyer friends. What does

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everyone think of everyone's the best?What is the best way to lawyer?
And because I thought that was thatin and of itself was sort of fascinating,
And it's also it's like adds alayer to it that when you think
that, like Celeste yourself is alawyer. But then of course, like
this isn't very I mean, everytype of law is like you know,
a specific type of law, butjust how they sort of explain that it's

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a little bit different for right custodyyou don't want to you know, have
outbursts and right right. And Ithink it was great that they actually reminded
us that Celeste is a lawyer,because she sure not like in the headspace,
are acting like someone that has agood command of like character and composure

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and like their ability to control themselvesin a crowd. Yeah, agreed,
And I don't think that like Ithink with anything, especially you know,
when you're in anything that's going toinvolve like negotiations or or whatnot. I
guess litigation, negotiations, etcetera,etcetera. It's all about how your strategy

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can best the strategy on the othersides, right, So it just to
me just seemed like Mary Louise andDennis O'Leary had one strategy, and that
was to play the sympathetic grandma becausethat's you know, she doesn't she doesn't
really have legal rights over them rightnow, right because she's not a parent.

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So that was kind of her strategy. And I think that, given
Celeste's current headspace, her lawyer wasprobably right when she was just like just
sit there and don't say anything.Yeah, I think I mean Mary Louise,
Yeah, she's playing the sympathetic grandmother, but while also simultaneously poking the

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bear as she is so good atdoing She is so good at doing that,
and we gotta Fiona agrees. Yeah, Yonna's like, you, guys,
you are missing some very important pointsand if you just like shut up
for a minute, I will tellyou, but I I will say And

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I started to notice it. Ithink listening back to last week's episode,
and like, how a few ofthe things that you guys said, but
a lot of times, and Ithink what makes Mary Louise's character so fascinating
is the fact that, like,you hate her methods and you know that
she is like a crazy person,but a lot of times she is right

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right, and you can agree withwhat she's saying even though you don't agree
with her motives and why. Andthat's what I think is just so fascinating
about her character and what she doesfor the series and the plot overall.
Right, because right now we don'tsee anything that makes her straight up evil.
Just know that she seems like she'ssomewhat psycho, right, but she's

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absolutely like pathological, like, butwhat she says makes sense when you actually
remove all of that stuff and justlook at it at face value. Yeah,
what did we think about her tellingMax and Josh what was going on?
Because I don't know if I mean, I'm all for being open and
honest with your kids, and Ithink she handled it well where she told

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them like, just you know,tell them the truth, don't say mean
things about grandma. But I don'tknow if I would have told them like,
hey, kids, I'm going outto go fight your grandma for custody
of you, I don't know ifI would have done that. Yeah,
I think there's a little bit ofI don't know, it's sort of reminiscent

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of when people when parents divorce andmaybe one or maybe both parents sort of
like try to manipulate their kids tolike put them against the other, and
like, to me, there wasit felt a little bit like that where,
yeah, I agree with you thatlike certain things she needs to be
honest about and she needs to likeexplain to them in a way that's appropriate

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for their age and you know,whatever, whatever they need to know.
But it was maybe a little bittoo far, right. The only I
think they're still a little too young, right, The only thing that I
can think that she might need tohave told them about it would have been
to prepare them for the fact thatthey were going to talk to somebody,
because she can't just like be like, hey, kids, you know you're

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going to see somebody to talk totoday, and like, you know,
without giving them any kind of context. But because I feel like if she
had done that to them, that'sjust going to add to their therapy bills
in the future. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, it just seemed to me
like celest definitely doesn't is not thinkingclearly, although I guess she didn't have

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any ambient intercourse this week or ambientdrunk driving or whatever, so powered to
her. She seemed to be onthe straight and narrow this week, at
least so we saw. At leastso we saw, although it was interesting
with um Ziggy gets bullied and Maxand Josh stand up for him, which
I have to say, I kindof loved if they went in there and

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they were like, leave my brotheralone, and I thought too, I
know, I was like, yougo boys, until you know they were
musing they were youth. But no, Um, we saw how just the
relationships between mothers and sons are differenttoo, because Ziggie confessor to Jane they
said, my father's a rapist andthen she he asked her all concerned,

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like am I going to be likehim? And then right after he's like,
you know, do you like Corey? And she's like yeah, and
he goes, am I gonna belike him? And very like very kid
liked just change the subject in themiddle of the conversation, Um, did
you like do you like Corey?Yeah? Him, egg egg her.

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But anyway, okay, so wehave the Diggie thing, and you know,
she talks to him and she's gotthis like quiet, gentle way,
and then you know Celeste is tryingto find out and they're just like,
stop being such a bitch. Mom. Yeah, I just felt like I

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felt for her in that moment.I felt for her too, But and
I don't have to do with thatbecause I'm not a mother. But like,
how how do you respond to that? Because I'm not sure that that
she really did a great job eitherof I supposed to meet them with call.
Yeah, she totally lost her cooland it's way not okay for them

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to say that. But I feellike, for one thing, like she
shouldn't get worked up. I mean, like like that do remain calm.
But the other thing is like it'snot just because she's her mom that they
shouldn't call her a bitch, right, it's just language they shouldn't like anyone.
Yeah, doesn't mean that, youknow, some girl is not your

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mother, you can go around callingher a bit. Well, of course
I don't think anybody is saying that. It's only not okay because it was
disrespectful to mom. But there's alsothe added layer that they're like nine years
old and throwing the B word aroundtoo. I mean there's also there was
a teachable moment on more on abroader scale. Yes, yes, probably,

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so whenever if my kid ever callsme a bit, I'm gonna remember
Shandy said handle it like this,and you know what, You're probably right,
and I will absolutely sit down,do not beget anger. It's just
again the differences between parents and kids. But at least for them, it
had a happy ending, right wherethey all get to go kayaking with boring

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Corey. Then all got to gokayaking um aut Point Lobos, which is
where and Nicole were parked a coupleof weeks. Yeah. Side, Now,
I don't think you can kayak there. It's like protected and shit,

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but you can die there, soyou know maybe, but I've never seen
a kayak stand. But anyway,that was like interesting. But they didn't
call it Whaler's Coke, Like,yeah, it is Whaler's Cove and there's
a little a tiny little museum becausethey used to actually like go whaling from
there all wow, yeah, backwhen that was still considered okay, yes,
yeah, so after this we alsofind out and I guess I kind

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of bury the lead here talking aboutthe kids, is that with the custodity
hearing, they're going to have toput they're probably gonna put in, So
they're probably going to put Celeste onthe stand and she can't lie because that's
perjury. As Ranana with her allknowing wonderful great lines, you know,
she said it's a perjury trap,um, you know, and explaining Toreese

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witherps Soon, who's like, youknow, well, why don't she just
you know, play the fifth andshe's like, that's perjury, babe.
Like you also notice she called herMadeline and that's yes, yes, she
still can't get her name right.Okay, it's this far along, like
right, really, so do wethink it's about to really get really real

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with the last two episodes left?Yeah? So yeah, I know.
I think it's really interesting how they'reall going to essentially end up back in
like the legal system, and it'snot the way that anyone would have saw
coming, what would have seen comingat the beginning of the season, right,
And I think that that's interesting andwell done. Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh who do we think will bethe first to break? I mean Bonnie,
Yeah, she Charity. She justwanted to sell the truth since the
jump she has and I think withthe whole there owning thing, and was
she walking to the police station toconfess tonight because I kind of thought that's
what she was doing that that wasan actual episode. Yeah, okay,

(32:13):
because we saw somebody leaving, wedid. I was gonna okay, um,
but yeah, I guess we can. We can go for it.
Now. What the hell was Coreydoing leaving the police station? Oh?
Is that what was happening? Yeah? He was getting he was walking out
with an officer. So was hedid they call him in? Was he
getting escorted out? Is he aninformant? Like? Was he sent there

(32:36):
to like spy on Jane and likeget her to confess to it? Like?
What was he doing? He's likean undercover cop. I'm gonna be
so bummed. I literally wrote inmy notes. I must have looked down
because first of all, that closingsequence was really not very good, and
then I was like, kind ofwhy is the last shot of Corey?
I don't understand what's happening? Yeah, because he walked out of the He

(32:57):
walked out of the police station asBonnie was walking past it or up to
it or something. Ah, soaway and I missed the shot that connected
that that's where he was. Iwas just like, why is he standing
in front of a car? Yeah? Yeah, Um, it's funny because
that rewatch that police that's like thereal little police station in Carmel, which
is next to montere Um. Andit's funny because as Bonnie's walking up to

(33:22):
it, they're like these three likethuggish looking guys who just like they just
in Carmel. They just don't exist. There's just literally no one that looks
like that. Also, one ofthem was wearing a wife beater and I
was like, it's too cold andcold wear it's like, never get above
sixty five. It's always this isproblematic. You do not wear tank tops

(33:44):
at nighttime in Carmel. What's withall the other ring Come on, guys,
even during the day you don't walkaround a tank top. But um,
but that street that you see withthat island Frank still work in a
restaurant on that stream Like, yeah, hey, that's really cool. That's

(34:04):
fun Um. But so I Imy theory about what Corey was doing is
less like conspiracy based. I thinkthat you know they have We had the
scene with him and Jane where theysort of like start to make out and
and then she breaks down. Ithink that Corey went to the police to
report that she was raped, andI think that he had, you know,

(34:27):
quote unquote the best intentions because heis the good guy. But you
don't do that. See, Idon't like. I don't think that that
at all. Uh yeah, wantto be true, but I don't like.
See I think that's equally terrible though, because that's the horrible thing to
do, Like you don't report somebodyelse's rape. Right if nine years ago,

(34:50):
let's cross that. If that's whathappens, let's discuss that next week.
If that theory comes to term,I kind of disagree with it.
Theory, Shanny, I'm sorry,Oh that's fine. But if because I
mean, it could be we couldget the same result. Because the problem
is if he just like all innocentlyI'm twelve and don't know how the world

(35:12):
works, goes to the cops andit's like, you know, wants to
report that his girlfriend was raped howmany years ago, then that could start
off a whole thing like okay,raped by him, oh the guy that
just died, Like that's gonna addinformation, well ed. See That's why
I think it would be bad ifhe's an informant, or I think they

(35:34):
could have like hauled him in becauseshe's trying to Quinlan is trying to get
to them. And that's why,because he was escorted out walking with a
police officer, I did not seethe police officer, so I couldn't have
to go back and rewatch he didhe was because I just finished rewatching it
like forty five minutes ago. Sohe's walking out of the police station down

(35:57):
the steps with an officer, whetheror not that was to show, hey,
he was leaving the station because there'sa cop next to him, and
he wasn't just walking down random stairsor or not. That's why I because
I thought for the first time Iwatched it, I thought for sure,
like, oh my god, heis he's he's spying on her, like
he's there like a plant by Quinlin, or they got to him or something.

(36:21):
And then when I watched it today, I was like, no,
it looks like he's like being walkedout of the building, which is what
they probably would have done if theyhad called him in to question him about
something. So I guess, yeah, chances to find out two more.

(36:43):
But that said, I think shit's about to go down. Yeah,
oh, you know we kind ofwe so Madeline and Ed, right,
we kind of talked about it alittle bit with a couple's therapy in the
scene in the car um Oh,I feel like Madeline was really like actually
making breakthroughs and spilling her heart outwhen she was saying, you know,

(37:06):
my my next mistakes will be brandnew ones and like yeah, and you
know, just talking that she reallyloves him, wants to be married to
him, and and you know sheshe must have low self esteem or hurt
herself or something like. I feellike Madeline has shown a bit of more
self awareness than she had previously ina way. Um, but I don't

(37:30):
know what it's going to take forEd to want to work things out with
her, Like he hasn't clearly hasn'tgotten over that out of his system.
And I kind of like like dickish ed in a way because it feels
real. But at the same time, and I loved when Nathan he was
just like, why can't we justbe comfortable not liking each other? And

(37:52):
He's like, hey, not fuckingturns around. That's so funny. Nathan
is the worst. Why is heeven there, he's so poor list to
give us the word nut fuck.But anyway, are we going to see
Ed and Madeline reconcile this season?I think so. I mean, I

(38:14):
think I think it's just going totake him time, and I think by
the end he'll start to um comearound. Yeah. Between the two of
them, Like, I feel likeEd feels more authentic to me, Like
it feels like he is being verygenuine in his anger. We're as Madeline.

(38:37):
Yes, we're seeing a more honestand open Madeline than what we've seen
in the past, but I stillfeel like there's still a bit of her
holding back and some of the languagethat she's choosing to use to like express
this stuff does feel very like cannedand prepared. You know. It's like

(38:58):
sort of you know, it's like, oh, well, you know,
because my parents' marriage didn't work out, and my marriage to Nathan was not
to be believed. Like Wo's whoactually says that when they're like genuinely like
struggling to work through something that's reallydeeply embedded into their code, right,

(39:19):
that's fair and even like the beautyof the like if I, you know,
if I fuck up again, itwon't be infidelity, Like all my
future mistakes will be brand new ones. That also feels like it's a beautiful
line, but it's a line andit's something that you probably rehearse. That's
not something you're just but that's yourmouth off the top of your head.
Yeah, but it doesn't feel itdoesn't feel as authentic as Ed's anger.

(39:42):
And I think his anger is justifiedright now. That's a great point too.
That's a good that's I don't reallyhave encountered to that. Um,
you know what was genuine from Madelinethrowing an ice cream cone at Mary Louise
that got cut out of the episode. All the best parts of this episode
hit the cutting room floriously. Idon't know if anybody out there listening has

(40:06):
seen there was a I saw iton Twitter, but I know man I
said there was an article. Andthey're at the end of that scene when
she tells Abigail that Mary Louise isa psychopath and they have the ice cream
cones. There's pictures of her throwingthe ice cream at Mary Louise and she's
making this awesome face and it's justgreat. It's pretty good. Yeah,

(40:28):
there's got to be a deleted scenedirector's cut. Shandy's gonna be in the
director's cut, and the ice flyingice cream, I feel like that was
you know what, let's just gofor broke on this take and let's just
do something crazy outlandish like breeze.Why don't you just will end the scene
you throw the ice cream cone,and like in reviewing the funds, you're

(40:49):
like, oh, yes, no, this is a bit much. Yeah.
No. So I do think thatEd will eventually come around, but
the question is will have potentially athreesome with Tory? First? Okay,
yes, who was that about?The episode ends and she's like, here's

(41:14):
my new boobs and let me rubyour back or something like shots in this
completely public place, let me putmy husband and like watching in the most
grossly soap proper way I can thinkof. Yeah, yeah, it really
was. Do we think Ed's gonnado anything? I don't think Ed's gonna

(41:37):
do anything. I don't think it'sgonna do anything. He's gonna he's not
gonna Yeah, and then well whenshe walked up, I mean maybe if
she had just come up by herself, but then when we see that he's
there, and then and then likeare they gonna like, are they gonna
have like a healing bar bar fight? Bar fight is also why I think
that like ending sequence, usually they'revery good. This one just felt like

(42:00):
they shook up the eight ball andwas like, h like, well,
you know, a party of shots. They're like, let's see what are
we gotten here? Usually ending sequenceslike are what everybody like? Their montages
of what everybody's doing at the sametime, And this one jumped around from
like afternoon and nighttime and it wasa little bit all over the place.

(42:22):
But I loved they used my MorningJacket song, right, they did,
and I really liked. I reallyliked though the whole thing. But yes,
I agree, it was definitely alittle all over the place. Victory
Dance is the name of the myMorning Jacket song they used. And then
real quick, there's not a wholelot on the Nada front. But poor

(42:43):
Nada doesn't get to do the magazine. She doesn't get to have her showdown
with Mary Louise. Okay, ohmy god, So the magazine thing,
we had this great Lunada line.Um, She's like, we're supposed to
women were supposed to be on eachother's sides, and her backstabbing sluts.
Yes, yes, I was like, I know she's great, but then

(43:09):
yeah, Mary Louise, she justtotally completely shuts her down and owns her
with a simple line as where whathappened to your furniture? Your furniture just
such a big house dressing her goingthrough a little bankruptcy right now, big

(43:29):
thing, you know, And thenshe asked her like, you know,
don't you work Granada, and justoh my god. The whole thing was
very interesting. Yeah, it's likeyou think, you know how this is
gonna go, but then it doesn't. I knew that she was going to
have to get the best of herin some way, because there's no way

(43:50):
Mary Louise goes is in any sceneand isn't winning the sociopath. Yes,
but then she has a nice littlepool day with Amabella, which you know
actually might be better for Amabella thananything that her mom has ever tried to
do for her with money, likebig parties or doctor bo peep and all

(44:15):
that, Like, yeah, yourmoment, Yeah, and it was really
nice to see that, Like whenshe tells her sweetie, money is everything
isn't about money? Well it is, but it isn't right. It's like
we have to still, like Granadahas a brand, we gotta stick with
that here, you know. Shewas like, well, money's not everything,

(44:36):
like that would not ring very truefor that character at all. No,
but she tried bless her heart,bless her heart. And then as
far as Bonnie goes, Bonnie kindof we see a lot more of her
past. She has it out withher father and she asked him, but
you know, did you protect me, which also called back to the Max

(45:00):
and Josh telling Celeste that they're goingto protect her, and she's like,
you know, you don't have toprotect me. And I thought that was
kind of interesting, like, oh, that kind of protect parents protecting children,
children protecting parents kind of thing.Um. But yeah, so Bonnie's

(45:21):
whole thing, and you know,poor Nathan gets her the treadmill. Oh
just stupid, stupid Nathan. AndI think I think that we could probably
all agree that, you know,if you're living in a beautiful out community
with wonderful weather and you're an outdoorrunner, you probably the last thing you

(45:45):
want is to get us treadmill,so you know, for the one day
you're raining. Yeah, right,But okay, Yeah, So she has
it out with her dad um andthen you know, he tells her that
he was protecting her by doing whateverhe could to make the rage go away,
for you, for me, forher. We see that Bonnie has

(46:06):
a little bit of whatever it isthat her mom has where she starts to
see she's so we see winchell wipersin the rain, and then I think
we see water, right, Soare we made light? Yeah? I
guess she's kind of seeing the drowningvision that her mom is seeing. And
then it ends with her mom sayingkill me. And do we think that

(46:31):
her mom really said kill me ordo we think that it was imagined because
of what's weighing on Bonnie's conscience,and imagining her mom saying kill me is
what kind of led her to thepolice station at the end, I think
it's real. I think it's real. Why would she want her to kill
her? I don't know if shemeant it literally, but I think to

(46:52):
have that be like just one ofthose outside of reality scenes feel like almost
more like a horror movie to me, you know, like I feel like
it doesn't ring true to the series, like it feels really out of step.
Yeah, well, it has tobe important because they named the episode
after right right, yeah, soyeah, I can't quite put my finger,

(47:15):
like, I don't have a betterexplanation, but I just feel like
it feels less weird to have thatbe something she actually said in real life
instead of like and something that Bonnieis envisioning. Yeah, and for me,
I just took it kind of on, like just the literal level of
like she just had like a massivestroke and like can't really talk anymore in

(47:36):
function, and so like maybe she'sjust really miserable. But then of course
it hits a nerve because Bonnie haskilled at least a person, right right,
Yeah, I would go, yeah, Shendy, I'd go with that.
Yeah, all right, Well,does anyone have anything else about this?
Otherwise? We got a little bitof feedback. There was a book

(47:58):
in this episode, Born to Run. Oh yeah, interesting. I think
I believe that was when they werekayaking and somebody was giving it back to
somebody else. I just wrote Bornto Run Oh no, no, no,
I believe that was the book thatNathan left for a Bonnie on the
treadmill. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes more sense.

(48:20):
Yeah, okay, which is ait's a fun read. Oh fantastic.
You recommend it. Yeah, it'sa really good story. Get good.
Okay, So a little bit offeedback from Facebook group and Kim said to
Mandy that couple's retreat would be moreaptly name Express Divorce Encounter group. Jay

(48:45):
said, Chandy watch is complete.Yay uh. And then as they were
daring to discuss whether or not thatwas you, and Elena said that this
was the closest I have come toanyone resembling her. But those beautiful red
curls are pretty hard to miss.True, and then Rose said totally recognized

(49:09):
Shanty best acting of the episodes.Strong It understated, hard to be the
straight person in a scene it is, I mean, be the rock from
which the action is pushing off from. Yeah, vite, you were covering
props. You had to act withprops. That's very hard. H Jack

(49:37):
said. Oh. Jack said,I'm new to the party, but I
have a couple of theories. I'msure they've already been brought up, but
I want to throw them out there. I think we're going to see more
women that Perry attacked coming forward.I think I also think every time we
see Perry face timing Celeste, it'safter he's attacked another woman. I also
believe that Mary Louise knows all aboutwhat her son has done. That's I

(50:00):
love those theories. I love themall. I don't know if I believe
they will all be come true,but I love them all. I could
see more attackers of Perry coming forward. Yes, we did get that from
Mary Louise. Yeah, from hervictim blaming whole thing. Yeah, I
could see that too. Um.I could see the face timing thing because

(50:21):
he has you know, that's kindof like the you know, I'm sorry,
baby, I won't do it again, even though she doesn't know,
you know, it is kind ofthing. I don't think Mary Louise knows.
I think that Mary Louise lives inher bubble of whatever she wants to
believe being true, and reality issomething that's saved for Fox News. So
I just don't know if well,what if she's in denial, not that

(50:45):
she you know, because we stillremember doing something I didn't, something happen
with Perry's brother, some sort ofaccident that we don't know, right,
I say, there's there's still achance that like could have been something Perry
did, Yeah, which I thinkwe'll find out more why can't they just
get her to talk about that onthe stand next week? Oh? I

(51:07):
think there. I think that's thatmaybe is being held back for for some
season finale. Goodness, Lauren,that's a good point. Then we had
a whole bunch of praise for MerylStreep. Janet said, Oh my god,
what happened? Where's all your furniture? Priceless scene with larder and a
Meryl Streep. It is absolutely delightfulevery episode to watch how they use Meryl

(51:31):
Streep in this series. Every sceneshe is in has purpose and is not
wasted. Her transformation into Mary Louise. The Mary Louise character has stunned me
at every turn. It is brilliantto have her exchange withering dialogue with the
outstanding female leads in this series.Again, where's the furniture? That was
great? Like with a simple quietlyto Livered, she shut her down.

(51:57):
I mean that was great, sogood. And then Christie commented, they
always think they can control the conversationand Mary Louise turns it around on them
so fast they're in shock. Amazing. Mama Gee said, just watch the
episode. Meryl Streep takes my breathaway and what's up with Bonnie and her

(52:17):
mother? Yeah, very very complicated, But I think it is interesting that
they chose to make the abusive relationshipbetween the mother and the daughter. Yes,
And I think we've talked about thatbefore, that it's a it goes
to show just the importance of parentsand how abuse doesn't have to just come

(52:43):
from the male parent. Yep,yep. And then Janet also said,
my guest is WHOI psychic gone badwith a healthy dose of child abuse thrown
in the New Age version of thewacky evangelical parent who abuses their child trying
to get the evil spirits out ofthem. Scary stuff, and she was
responding to, yeah, yep.Do we think we'll explore more of the

(53:07):
Bonnie mother daughter relationship right now?Or do we think that the action's about
to head innate total other direction ofthe legal Perry sense legal slash Perry sense,
where I think we have not seenthe last of their relationship, but
I think it will take a backstep. Okay, I kind of feel

(53:29):
the same way. Yeah, Ithink it will sort of move down in
the hierarchy of of story arcs becauseI think it's it's now pretty clear what
motivated Bonnie's reaction and what why shepushed Perry downstairs. So I think it's
it's served its purpose. Yeah,I don't feel completely satisfied, Like,
yeah, it'd be nice to getlike a little more. But yeah,

(53:51):
I think I think it's it's late. Its groundwork, it's done its job.
Yes, I thought it was welldone too, the way they kind
of unfolded the story Shanny. Yeah, No, definitely, I agree.
I think we'll move into the courtrooma little bit more and then you know,
we still have all of next episodeand then the entire season finale,

(54:12):
right, some of those ends tobe tied. Well, do we know
if the season finally is going tobe ninety minutes? I feel like they
usually do a slightly longer last episode. Oh that's a good point. That's
a great point. I do notknow. Okay, I was gonna say
this one one note to go backto the Meryl streep of it all.
I was not on the HBO gowebsite today and I noticed, well,

(54:37):
like I was on the show page, so HBO dot com whatever anyway,
and I went down to the verybottom and they have like the cast or
you can click on a link wego to the cast and look at the
just they have the pictures of allthe main people with the character name in
the after name, and I justthought it was funny because the only character
who didn't have a name was MerylStreep. Like, it's like, her

(55:02):
character name is there, Mary Louise, but her actual name, the name
of the actress, is not listed. And I was just like, oh,
yeah, that checks out, Likeyou don't need to you don't need
to say that checks out. Soyeah, we were not the only ones
U and everyone writing into we're notthe only ones thinking that she's apparently she

(55:24):
just doesn't even need to be named. She's that. Yeah, you just
know, Shandy. I will tellyou though, that when we did not
watch, we forgot the first timewe watched it. We forgot to watch
the next week on part of theshow because we spent the whole time scanning
the credits to see if your namepopped up at any point. It does

(55:45):
not because I didn't talk. Yeah, yeah, well, and that was
also another thing. I don't know, I don't remember if I said this
on the podcast or not, butwhen they did send me my big fat
check, um, it was madeout to Shandy loamper and so I was
like Jesus Christ. And then itwas like, well, if I do

(56:06):
get a credit, like it's goingto be incorrect. And I emailed back
the person who had contacted us fromcasting accidental just kind of wrong because I
didn't want to be like so inthe credit, it's make sure you get
it right, because I didn't wantto like getting a credit. But I

(56:27):
was just like, so the checkcame, and just wanted to let you
guys know for your records because it'slike it cleared at the bank, but
just you know, just yeah,we're stupid. But I never did hear.
I never did hear back from him. So the whole time I was
like, if I do get acredit, is it gonna be me or
is it gonna be almost me?Now I don't have to worry about that
either. Yeah, like accidental stagenames, that's how they happen, right,

(56:52):
Yeah, yeah, it's mistake allright. And then to wrap the
feedback up, we have an emailfrom Maggie. All right, and Maggie
says, Hi, you a broadsloving the show, both yours and the
TV show. I watched episodes threeand four today. Wow, the disco

(57:13):
outfits were amazing. Yeah truth,I'm sorry I didn't even include that in
my note. Oh my god,the show, the outfits, the party,
perfection, the wigs left all fit, all of it. Anyway,
back to the email, I waslooking around. I was looking around after

(57:34):
and the internet loved Mary Louise beingslapped, which was amazing. Another theory
I saw, not mine, butI thought it was interesting. Mary Louise
will kill Bonnie. Then it comesfull circle. I really wish the season
wasn't half over by by I happened. That's really not into that. I

(58:00):
don't think that. I I don'tknow. I don't think I think Bonnie
will survive another season. Yeah,I really don't want that to happen,
and I don't I don't think we'regonna get another murder Ryan. I don't
think this is gonna be like everyseason in Big Little Eyes, somebody dies.
I don't think that's necessarily going tobe the thing. Yeah, I

(58:22):
wouldn't be summarized if we don't getanother season. Yeah. No, this
is making a lot of money andthere's no more Game of Thrones, so
we're getting enough. We're gonna getanother season. You don't want to like,
these are all big actresses that havelike other things they could be doing,
and you don't want this to belike another like broad Church, where
like just each season gets a littlelike sadder and then you forget how great

(58:45):
the first season was. Right,Well, we'll see. I feel like
they would have announced it if therewas not another season. Yeah, and
I do. I think it's goingto depend a lot on probably the next
two episodes and the reception, likewhat the actual story ends up being,
and then how also how that's received. But and they probably not, like

(59:06):
they've got to know if if theending, you know, it is really
great, if they've written something reallywell, right, they probably know that,
and then yeah, so we'll see. Cool. Well, thank you
to everybody who contributed. If you'dlike to give us any feedback in the
future, you can give us acall at three three one two seven six

(59:27):
two three seven three, or youcan email us the Broadcasters three at gmail
dot com. Shandy, you hadyou talked a lot about local stuff during
before we discussed it and during it. Is there anything else for the local
local drip section of the show,Just that sort of beginning part where we

(59:49):
get nut fuck with Nathan and edthat part of the trail that they're that
they're on. I go there allthe time, like I've trained many many
miles right there, and it's likeon the way to the Lover's Point,
which is where the cafe is.But it's it's a little bit always and
it is. It's just interesting tothink, like, Okay, what day

(01:00:13):
was that, because they had tohave like closed down the trail and how
how do they do that without everyonein town knowing about it? But somehow
they did. Yeah, it's agood point. Oh. Cool music.
Let's talk a little bit about musicbefore we get out of here. All
right, let's talk about music.So the first big musical moment, which

(01:00:34):
is I added because it was ahighlight of the episode for me, Yes
me too, Yes, a LittleNatural Woman by Carol King when the and
ed we're driving to the retreat,to the point I actually, like in
my abridged rewatch this evening, Ihad to go back and make sure because

(01:00:58):
the drive back from the retreat theirplaying the song Baby by Donnie and Joe
Emerson, which is also playing atthe end credits, And when I saw
that, I was like, no, it's not it's Carol King. I
had to go back and confirm,but it is. It's two separate car
rides. There were two car ridesin this episode. One song was in
one, one song was in theother. But the thing that I found

(01:01:20):
the most interesting about that is thatwe learned that Madeline doesn't know how to
sing along in response. I waswell when that when I saw that scene,
and I was like, she's comea long way from her June Cash
days right, doesn't know how tosing to the radio. It's pretty unfortunate

(01:01:44):
ring in that song though, CarolKing could be in everything as far as
I'm concerned, and it just makesit better. She just makes it better.
She does, she does. Andthen we also had a song by
Aretha who you know who made NaturalWoman famous, and that's a change is
going to come? But actually,wasn't that was the Sam Cook version of

(01:02:07):
it? Wasn't it? Well?Sam Cook did the original and it is
one of my all time favorite songs. If you haven't heard that original Sam
Cook version, pause this podcast,go listen to it. Wait. Okay,
wasn't that amazing? I know,but it's just like one of those

(01:02:28):
really like uplifting and soul crushing inequal measure. Songs like it makes you
very hopeful for the future, butit also makes you very very sad,
right ah, And I think that'sexactly what that scene was about. So
I think it was just like aperfect pairing. And I never heard the

(01:02:50):
Aretha version before, so that waspretty rad. Yeah. Um, oh
go ahead, Sorry, oh no, it's in the house. Yeah.
Sorry, it's been a busy,busy evening here. And then, um,
that if You Leave Me Now byChicago scene was so funny, which

(01:03:12):
is because it was cash cow.Yes, yeah, Bonnie's cash cow of
singing for sleep apnea while lying onyour back, But it was a great
use of a really beautifully, wonderfullycheesy song. Yes. And then while
uh, Corey and Jane have theirfirst romantic rendezvous, this song that was

(01:03:37):
swinging in the background is It's aWonderful Life by a Sparkle Horse, which
is that scene in general I justthought was beautifully sad. Yeah, I
just I thought it was. Um, yeah, I think I think it
was a lovely a lovely pairing there. Uh. And then lastly, as
we already discussed a little earlier onthe show, over the closing culminating montage

(01:04:02):
victory dance by my morning Jacket,which sort of similar to Carol King.
Anytime you have my morning Jacket inyour show, it's probably just gonna make
it better. Good times, goodtimes, awesome. All right, Well,
here we are. We've got twomore episodes to go in season two.
Next week we will be I willbe recording from San Diego because I'm

(01:04:26):
going to Comic Con, and wewill have a special guest that will also
be on the show. So forthe reviewer who thought that there were four
terrible women on this show, nextweek, there will in fact the four
women, and we will laugh allof the laughs that all the things we
say that aren't funny. So reallythat person was just listening to us from

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the future. From the future.But yes, so stay tuned. Do
you want to announce who's going tobe on Well, let's let's hold on.
We'll keep it. We'll keep ita surprise and then that is.
But so stay tuned for that nextweek. And speaking of reviews, if

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you would like to leave us areview on iTunes, a positive review,
we would really appreciate that as well. And if you ever want to email
us any constructive criticism you have,we'll take it. And we will learn
from it. Send it to thebroadcasters three at gmail dot com. I
think that's about it. Thank youthe patron especially the ones that contribute a
certain level and that we tack fromTokyo, Ekhartrichner, Maggie the Magnificent,

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Joanne with a Plan at the CreepyMailman, and Drake the Distributor. Thank
you guys so much. If youlike to become a patren you go to
patreon dot com slash Jane Jack.That helps all of us out. If
you can't get enough of us andall of our pointless laughing, you can
check us out on the Broadcast,which is the other podcast we do,
and we just talk about current eventsand help culture things, and we do

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lots of fun stuff over there.We laugh a lot, we look at
dirty Wikipedia pictures. It's great,okay, but check us out there.
You can search for us in iTunesthe broadcast and then and I'll say,
like Amanda, Shandy and Colleen andyou'll see her. We'll be there.
But yeah, I think that thatdoes it. Does anybody else have anything?
Did I cut anybody off for anygreat thoughts that they have? Last
minute theories for next week? Cool? All right, well, on that

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note, my name is Colleen,my name is Amanda. I'm Shandy.
Bye everybody, peace out, Byebye,