Strength and healing In Worship Episode 2

God is a God of love and abundance. Kristi, Champagne, and Tiffany are focusing on Yahweh and placing everything in His hands. Worship is saying “yes” to God, no matter what. Obedience to God ultimately brings the strength, healing and peace of God into our lives.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everyone to this podcast coming to you from the
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It's time to get started. I am Christy Kennell and
I am with Champagne Good and Tiffany Burkett. We are
at the Brookville House of Worship of also lovingly referred
to as Bee House, and we are a worship hub,
meaning everyone's welcome to come together and fellowship and worship
together in the Lord. And just getting ready to do

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our second podcast here so to see how worship affects
strength and healing.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
So we agreed that when we thought about worship and
strength and healing, we thought about David like it is David,
Like David is a picture of that, like through and
through the whole time, from when he comes on the
scene and to the end of his reign. Like we
see that over and over again. But my question is,
where did David come from? Like there's a whole background

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to this. It's we think of healing and strength like, well,
maybe not healing, but strength is like this strong thing,
like we think of muscles. There we go again talking
about muscles, but we think of just strong, you know
what I mean, And then the healing part of it,
and that can seem so scary sometimes, Yes, strength and
healing like ooh, that's taboo when we think about it.

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But what I've found a lot of times strength doesn't
look strong. It looks like weakness and our like the
Lord uses foolish things to confound the wise. Yes, and
I think back to where did David come from? What
birth did David? What birth is Samuel? Because we know
we needed a Samuel to bring David on the scene, right,

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the prophetic, So this goes back to two women. Two women. Yes,
women can be used to Yes, two women, and the
first one's Ruth. And we know Ruth like she followed
her mother in law into a nation, and she said,
where you go, I'll go, or where you stay, I'll stay.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
And she was moa bite And yeah, she went into
the Jewish nation. She did. Yes, it's a big deal.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
She walked away from everything she knew. Yes, left behind
her whole world, her whole life. Yes, her whole life.
Is that not strength, It is strength, and sometimes to
get to the healing, we need to walk through that
strength first. So we have Ruth, and her obedience brings

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about a marriage to Boas, and we know Boas is
the father of Jesse. And where does David come from Jesse? Yes,
so ruth An obedience births a Vidic nation, a Davidic era.
And then who's the other woman, Hannah? To get a Samuel,

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to get the pure prophetic, we needed a Hannah. And
Hannah was barren at first. Yes, she was without child,
and she travailed, Yes, I mean tears travailed. It was messy.
Strength looks messy sometimes, oh, yes, it does. It gets messy.
And she said, Lord, if you give me child, I

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will give him to you. And in the travailing. She
births to Samuel. Yes, and what does she do with Samuel?
She does exactly what she says. So it comes down
obedience again.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
She turned her baby over to the temples.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
You're right. And here's baby Samuel, and no, weaned and
given over to the Lord. And he grows up in
a house of priest. Yeah, but let's think about this.
At that time, the priest had had went astray. Samuel
was birthed into a nation that had no frequent visitation
from the Lord. They didn't hear from the Lord because

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they didn't have relationship with the Lord. So we have Eli,
the high priest and his sons. Is it what is
it Eli? No, not Eli, that is that is the father.
But Phineas and Hoffnai, those are her sons. And they
made everything that they were doing ministering about them.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
They were a hot mess. Yes, they were hot mess.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
You were right.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
They were doing things that were very unlawful.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
And Samuel comes into this and he's raised in this
household mm hmm. But he dwells in the presence of
the Lord. There's a difference. You can be raised in
a hostile environment. You can be in a hostile environment,
a chaotic environment where everything around you is just wrong,
unlawful even, yes, but still grow in the presence of

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the Lord.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
So not only is Samuel given to the Lord, he
grows in the presence of the Lord. And it says,
as a boy, he ministered unto the Lord before, before
Samuel was a prophet, he ministered unto.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
The Lord as a worshiper.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Before we are anything. We are a worshiper. We are
a priest. And if we could just grab hold of that,
before we are a prophet, before we are the evangelist,
the teacher, the pastor, all of them, we are a minister,
and too the Lord. We are a chosen people, a
royal nation, right for his own possession. And as Samuel

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grows in the presence of the Lord, he begins to
discern something's not right here, and he begins to hear
the Lord. Even so, this is so funny to me.
So Samuel begins to hear the Lord, and he doesn't
know it's the Lord at first, because he's a boy.
He's learning, right, we got to be trained in all things.
So he goes to the High priest Eli, He's like,
did you say something to me? And Eli's like, no, like,

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go back to bed. So he goes back to bed
and lays down, and the Lord speaks again. He's like,
there's Eli calling me again. And he goes to Eli
and he's like, I'm not it wasn't me, Like, go
back to bed. And then Eli's like, okay, the Lord.
The Lord's speaking to you. Just okay, say here, I
am here, I am I'm your servant.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Speak yes.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
And he begins to hear the Lord.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Which is the perfect example of how we are to respond.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yes, yes here, I am Lord's speak your servant hears.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I sort of see a weaning off there too, because
he was trained to answer to Eli or sorry yes Eli, Yeah.
And then Eli helped him to desern God's voice, so
in a way this discipleship and then he heard God's
voice for himself, and at that point that was pivotal
that he would turn and understand, at that young age

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that he was from now to listen to God's voice
and do as God says.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Yeah, it is good revelation, and that the Lord could
use a boy again, he uses the foolish things to
confound the wise. Could you imagine what it is to
be the high priest to be eli and see a
boy being used to hear when there was You got

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to remember this nation was not thriving in this time.
Who was not thriving? They weren't hearing from the Lord.
The Lord wasn't there was no frequent visitation. That's what
the pure prophetic does, right, It discerns the voice of
God from the voice of the chaotic enemy.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Right. Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Samuel grew in this. And not only did Samuel grow
in it, he raised up others too. He began to
raise up others. And you'll see Samuel come on the
scene and you'll see him anoint King David. So we
know that the people wanted a king, right, and we
can't blame them. Things were a messy, things were chaotic,

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so they wanted a king. So Sam's like, all right,
all right, So then we see Saul come on the scene.
We see the king Saul come on the scene.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Which proves that when we command God to give us
what we want, yes, it doesn't always.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Worry yeah, right, right, we take things in our own hands.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yet, good point. It's all part of that relationship that
we're going to talk about on going through this, because
it's not about religion. It is about relationship, and we
need to move in and draw closer and closer to
God and really listen or his voice and hear it
and do what he says without hesitation. Yes.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, because this was a pivotal moment in history because
under that false priesthood, that priesthood that went astray, they
lost the ark of the Covenant, right, the Philistines came
in and took it.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
He was no longer lord. Yeah, they had become lord
in a way.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, they took the ark. Could you imagine? No, like
the Lord's already not there, not speaking. But this is
what happened to that kingdom under that false priesthood that
went astray. The Philistines come in and they take the ark,
and then Eli's sons die, and that same battle that

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they take the ark out of his sons die, and
then Eli receives the news of this and he falls
over and dies. The news killed him, right. And at
the same time, the wife of Phineas, the one that
was just killed him battle, bears a child and names
him Ichabod God. The glory has departed from Israel. It's

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no wonder they wanted a king, right, they wanted to
fix it, fix it, fix it in their own strength.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
The glory has departed, Amen, And that's what happens because
in essence we become our own lord. Yeah, and there's
nothing we can do in our humanity to handle that.
We have to become part of what God is doing
in a very obedient, pure way.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
And we know that, you know. We here's king Saul
set up his king. The people wanted it, and we
see Saul he didn't even want to be king at first.
He hid among the baggage, he hid from it. So
we got to be careful what we're trying to push
by our own agendas, because then we wonder why we

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get into turmoil, why there's turmoil all around us.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Yeah, that goes to speak to you about what we
make idols in our life. Yeah, because think about idolization
of things we don't even realize we're putting in place, right,
you know, some of the obvious things are like let's
just say food. Yeah, I need comfort and peace in

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this time, and instead of going to Jesus, I go
to food. Right, But what does that do to me?
It's destructive?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, correct, Yeah, it's like remove the things from yourself
that are going to destroy. And that's interesting that you
say that, because that's one of the first things that
Samuel does is he becomes a judge, and he says
to the house of Israel, if you are returning to
the Lord with all of your heart, all of your heart,

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put away the foreign gods and the idols from among
you and sort of him only. See, we can't have
a heart that's undivided. No, it's got to be all
over our heart, right or relieving part of us vulnerable.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Because He has to function in his purity as God,
and we can't mix. It's like mixing the two materials,
or the new wine into the old wine skins. Like
you cannot mix God with the sinful world that we
are and come out with a pure result. You cannot.

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So when he gave us the ten commandments and said
don't put anything before me again, it was for protection.
You're right, because if you just stand still and see
me bring victory in this. If you just stand still
and watch my glory move, we remove our sinful nature
and everything out of that. He functions purely in that.

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When we start to get involved, then we start to
think out of our own sinful nature, right, and we're
trying to mix that with God. But ultimately we take
back lordship where there can only be one lord. And
then he has to step back and go I have
to step back because you're in that frame of mind

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and you're in that motion, and you're taking that action,
and I'm not part of that, and I cannot. Do
you understand, I cannot be part of that. He's telling us, like,
I can't just mix with you and let you have
your way. It is impossible for me to do that.
So if you need this to go in a direction
that I can, you know, ordain and moving my purity in,

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you have to step out and trust him. It's just
the way it is.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
And don't we see that over and over again. I
think of the Israelites being called out of Egypt. The
Lord told Pharaoh that my people go so that they
may worship me. That wasn't just to be called out
and have freedom and sing kubaya, you know what I mean?
Like that was to separate them from that world system
at the time, everything that was a part of it,

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and bring them out of it and into relationship with Him.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
With all the wealth of Egypt. Yeah, but if we
fast forward, which we have that ability to do because
we have the word of God. Ultimately, it served to
build the temple, and he came down and dwelt in
the temple so he could be with us. Yes, that
was his goal. Yeah, But to them it was like, yeha.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
We're not wandering around in the wilderness. Yeah, missing the
cucumbers and the melons. See there it is like we
start to make it about us, And he was.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Just saying, look, I just want to be with you.
Just follow what I've commanded you to do, and eventually
you will see this beautiful temple. It will be pure
enough for me to come down and fill it with
my glory and you can fellowship with me there and
then ultimately through Jesus ripping the veil and so then
sending back the Holy Spirit, and here we are. Yeah,
he's with us always. Now he's with us all the time. Now,

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nothing in the way, right, But back then they were
just coming out of Egypt and getting free. Yeah, yay.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
The only thing that can be put in the way
now is what we set yeah, between us.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
And that's how we think out of our humanity, Like
oh Lord, you paid the bill, thank you. I want
to worry about my bill till next month, when ultimately
he's working towards that relationship of you know what, if
you just trust me with all of this, you might
not have the bill in the first place. I don't know.
But you acted on your own and I had to
step back and let you be a lord because I

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can't mix with that. And here we are, but I'm
here to help you. And as we turn towards him
in worship and focus on him and him alone and
what he is and who he is, he moves every time,
every time, and then we just run around like Lord
to God, here's my testimony when all we we managed

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to just focus on him long enough for him to go, Okay,
here it is.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yeah. It goes back to that like sometimes strength and healing.
Like he brought them through a wilderness season. Yeah, cloud
by day, fire by night. They had to know how
to abide in the presence of the Lord. Don't go

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out from under the cloud, you'll be outside of his presence.
He was building relationship even then in that wilderness.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And practically speaking, in the wilderness, if they were in
the desert, it would be extremely hot. Without a cloud,
they would have been baked in the sun. Vision, it
was protection and provision for the people. It's people. Yeah,
So we need to see beyond that into what is
God doing? Right? Is he in this mess that I'm in?
Who is he?

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Yeah? And then fire by night light and again, and
I'm sure it got cool in the nights. That's what
the desert is during the day, cold in the night.
There it is again protection and provision.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah. Son, we would be sitting there around the fire going, oh,
thank Goodness of God is here in the fire. So
we are, we're warm, and God is saying I'm protecting you.
So there's always those two ways to look at it.
And worship is saying I'm gonna choose to see the
glory of God protecting me and the fact that God
is with us. There's a cloud, He's still with us. Yes,
it's evidence, it's a sign. Yes, we don't have to

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even believe in faith right now, we see it. We
know he's here. It moves we move yep, because that's okay,
that's him. So there's always that two ways, and we
are always making that choice, and that's worship.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
It is.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
And you will see how King Saul takes everything into
his own hands. He takes it into his own hands.
He does unlawful sacrifice. He does not wait upon the Lord. Right,
And the Lord said Samuel, and says, the kingdom has
been torn from you today. It'll be given to somebody else,
a man with a heart after God. And then we

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see David come in. We see David come in.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Doesn't that.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Isn't that interesting that the perseverance of Samuel almost developed
David before David was even a thought in Samuel's.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Right, Right, that's interesting, that's really good. Yeah, we have
to realize like a person's That's why I wanted to
go back in time here, like we love David. Like
every story about strength, we're gonna think about David as
a boy again, Samuel as a boy and David as

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a boy, Like, that's not strength a boy. But we
got to go back and see, like what actually birthed this,
what birth's strength and healing? It was tears, yes, and
obedience for Ruth to leave everything that she had known.
That's not easy. That's not easy, right, yeah, And there's

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healing in that though.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
So. Sometimes strength doesn't look like we think in our
human finite minds.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, I can testify personally when you see everything
that you've known. Yeah, And I started out in my
humanity saying, well, it was just me and God as
if it was something like I have to look into
the unseen realm for all of this. Everything I have
is not going to be what I can physically see
in touch. It is reaching into that realm that I
cannot see. But going into the wilderness with him and

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being placed in a place where I had no choice. Yeah,
coming out of that with a relationship with God and
the understanding of the scriptures and all that He has
blessed me with. It's so it was a blessing in disguise.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
And I think it's really cool because you're a worshiper
and Ruth and Boaz would be like the grandma and
grandpa of David. Yes, So Birth's a whole nation of worship,
a whole era, whole movement if you think about it,
Samuel and David together, Birth a prophetic worship movement.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yes, Generational, the generational blessings, yes, Yeah, and we can
establish that, yeah through our trials, that generational blessing. Everybody
talks about the generational curse. What do we do with
the general, we ever comment with a generational blessing and
love of God and worship.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
You're right, Yeah, how important is it for us to
be in that stance Ruth and Boas took to be
able to parent or you know, steward the people that
are coming into our own lives.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, you know, all.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Of the perseverance up through that generation and faithfulness in
God and positioning ourselves like other people are relying on
us to be where we are in the Lord.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yes, it was an active submission. Ruth came in. I
didn't want to call her Hannah. Ruth comes in and
she puts herself on the threshing floor where Boaz is
asleep at his feet, and that culture. That was an
act of submission. We have to submit ourselves to the
Lord and be given over, just like Samuel to him

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and what he wants to do.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, your man.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
So let's talk about David. Okay, let's talk about what
it is like a man after God's own heart because
it started in a boy and it grew. Yes, here's
David from the sheep Fold from a field as a boy.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Mm hm wow, Yes, spending time alone, building his skills. Yeah,
his musical skills, is using a weapon using his bare hands,
becoming unafraid, yeah, and getting rid of discouragement through worshiping God.
Because all through this he'll come to God at times

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and say, this is happening. The enemy is doing this.
I want you to punish the enemy this way. And
then he he he'll speak to his soul. I'm speaking
to my soul, and I'm saying, Saul, you know, lift
up the Lord. And then and then he comes out
with this bust the Lord on my soul, and all
this within me praises my name, and God is mighty,
and so you see him morph, and I think it's

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a beautiful example. Christ did it too?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yes, did it too?

Speaker 1 (22:26):
He you know, let this, let this cut past from
me if you can, if he could, you know, just
knowing what he was supposed to do, and crying and
out to God and bleeding sweat drops of blood. We
all have that moment where it's like I feel like
I'm moving into more than I can take. But instead
of moving into more than I can take and throwing
in the towel and becoming discouraged, and I'm going to

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move into the presence of God closer, and I'm gonna
dwell on these scriptures, and I'm going to pray and
cry out to him, who are you in this moment? Lord?
And let you and just lift you up. You are mighty,
you are strong. And it does build upon each experience
builds upon itself. When he killed the bear and the lion,

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it was prep for that giant. I mean, how many
of us would grab a hold of a barrel lion
because of a sheep? And Jesus commanded us to feed
his sheep.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
If you love me, feed my sheep.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yes, And that's a demonstration of his love. It's going
after my sheep, Protect my sheep, lead them into green pastures,
lead them besides still waters. I've showed you how to
do it. I've showed you how to be the ultimate shepherd.
And that was David. Even when his father sent him
with the red and cheese to the front lines, he didn't.
His mindset was I have to get somebody to watch

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my sheep. And there it points it out in scripture.
He left his sheep in the care of someone else.
He didn't just drop the ball. So he's that shadow
of Christ. And then Christ points back to him. So
it's that when we worship like that. It's it's okay
to come to God and say, look, this is upsetting me.

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I feel like I'm at the end of myself. But
it's that it's that taking hold of your soul and saying, soul,
you have to cheer up in this moment. Find a
way because we are gonna refocus. We're going to refocus
on the fact that we have yah wah God, and
that we have you know, we've we've come out and
said he is you know you are Lord, God, you

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are Lord.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I choose you today, yep.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
I will serve you, and so will my family, so
will my home. I've chosen you, and so that's the
direction I'm going. I don't want to jump in there
and try and do this. Yes, so you do whatever
it takes, even if it is phone a friend yep,
or you know, go to somebody in the church or
you know, call a pastor or whatever. The scriptures are
super great, but whatever way, you have to get yourself

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back into that posture of worship and back into that
focus on God. That's where you need to be. And
that's where David was. My focus is I have to
protect the sheep. Okay, it's a lion, it's a bear
eye could lose my life right now, but I'm going
to go after it. And he killed them. He professed
and testified that he killed them. And then sitting there
with that harp and working on the chords and working

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on the notes and just writing songs and singing songs
and just focusing on God again. And then the sling shot.
He had a slingshot, and so what was he doing
all day? He was, I'm gonna pick the target and
I'm gonna hit the target. Came very, very precise with
the sling shot. Okay, So this is David sitting in

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the wilderness with his sheep, playing a heart, playing with
a sling shot, killing animals, protecting the sheep. And what
did that morph into When he took the bread and cheese,
he left his sheep in the hands of someone. He goes,
his brother comes out to challenge him. He ignores this
brother to brother fight, which is you know, brothers have words.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Comes to try to stop you from going where you're
He'll send anything and anybody to discourage you so you
don't go.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Exactly he does that. He'll nitpick like a little minion,
like you have this big thing coming up in the Lord,
and you're and you're determined to say yes and be
obedient to it. But then all of a sudden, it's
the little things that weigh you down and overwhelm you
that you have to overcome on the way there. And so,
but he was so focused on who's this? Yeah? Oh,
and then he came out and he's you know, who

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do you think you are? Armies of lights, the armories
of the Living God? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. He was so horrible,
And but David was like, excuse me, what is he saying? Yeah?
Why are you running? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Why are we cowering in fear?

Speaker 1 (26:35):
He's attacking? Yahweh right now? And it kicked in that
same heart, that same ability to be strong and bold
and confident. I killed a line, I killed a beart.
It's easy now because I went through it and I
survived it. God was with me. Yeah, I've you know,
I've got the sling shot. I've got a heart towards God,
and my focus is on God right now.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
So if I die in this like, I didn't even
mention that he just ran. He ran, yep, towards the enemy.
He ran, He ran to your right army in full
armor was running and he ran into that situation with
a slingshot in five zones yeah, and whacked him with
the first one, and then went in and cut his
head off. Yeah, and carried it around. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
I just think it's crazy because David knew beforehand that
the battle was the Lord's. He knew from that history
with the Lord he would take care of this. Yes.
The same God that rescued me from the Pava lion,
the Pava bear, will rescue me from the hand of
this philistine today.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
And he said, he told Callith like you come to
me with a sword and a javelin, but I come
to you in the name of the Lord of Hosts.
There it is to understand that he was powerless without
the name. We are powerless without the name of Jesus. Amen,
where does authority lie? Where does the victory lie? In
the name of.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Jesus and understanding with your heart the authority? Yes, oh yeah,
we've got a grasphold of that. Absolutely. You carry.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Relationship has to be there, yep, that deep connection. Yeah,
what is it to abide in the vine. We've got
to be connected to the vine to bear fruit, to
come to maturity. It all comes down to connection with
the Lord. Remain in my love, Amen, stay in my love, abide.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
And I even think of a yoke like I'm picturing
a yoke right now, like the yoke of Jesus, Like
we yoked so many things connect like a yoke is
to connect to things together, to bear a load. We
connect to so many things that were not meant to
And it's a heavy yoke right right. But Jesus says,
my yoke is easy and my burden is light, Like
connect to me. Yes, remain in me. Yes, remain in

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my love, and my love will remain in you.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yes. And sometimes that's also a relationship. And when I
every time I think relationship, I think worship because worship
is our focus on him. It brings everything we have
spiritually and physically into his presence and helps us to
just really meditate on what he has. But when you're
bringing up yoke, I think about being in a yoke

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with something that you're not going in the same direction
physically speaking, You're going to get bruises on your neck,
You're going to get muscle pain, you're going to get wounds,
you're going to get scars and with wounds. If you're
an actual pests come where there's blood that is intended

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to and that makes a whole other mess to consider.
So when you're in a yoke with something or someone,
you want to walk with them or you should not
be yoked with them. That's good. That is a strong verse.
And so you know when we get into relationships we
don't always pay attention to that. It is very whether

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it's marriage or a friendship or a minute, you have to.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Be equally yokes. Yeah, going in the same direction.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
And the scars that come from all of that are
so much more than if you're just walking along with
the same focus in front of you meaning God, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
To help carry the load. I think about the strength
and numbers unity. Yeah. Where one falls, the others able
to pick you up and help you.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, And that's how it should be. There should be
no judgment there or condemnation.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I really believe that in Jesus, like when we're one mind,
one accord, there is strength and healing and community.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Again, back to when one man falls, there's another to
pick them up.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
It's an army of God.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
When we stumble, Yeah, there's somebody there to remind you
of who you are. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Judging somebody in their pain rather than discipling or assisting
is like going out to a battlefield and saying, Okay,
we're all going to sit on the bench and we're
gonna go out and watch you fight alone. Yeah. Wow.
You have to come up with your brothers and sisters
in Christ, and you have to be in them, with
them in their mess, and you have to stay in

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and fight with them. Yeah, no matter what. It looks like.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Somebody said something to me one time, and like there's
prophetic words and then there's prophetic words. And this hit
me deep in my soul. And she spoke to me
and it was the Lord speaking through her, because I
felt it like to the core. And she said, well,
the Lord said through her that I pulled you out
of the trench, but I'm sending you back. Wow, because

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you know the way out, Wow, and you know how
to help others out. And a lot of times we
don't want to go into the trenches. It's muddy down there,
it's messy. What if we fall in.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
If we get stuck. I was just thinking, like we
came out of that, why do we want.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
To go back into it?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Like that?

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Without mud on us, Like she said to you, you
know the way out? Yeah, like that's pretty powerful. Yeah yeah.
It hit me to my core. And if there's like
something that compels me in ministry, it's always that. It's
not what I'm going to get, what I'm gonna do.
It's the people that are still stuck in the trenches.

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It's the sheep lost, and the cracks and the crevices.
They're still out there, They're still crying out for help.
Who's going to go? And I think about David running
to the battle line. He ran to the battle line
basically saying here, I am send me.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, who's going to go? Jesus did it. Yeah, Moses
did it. Joseph did it. Jesus could have left it
any time. Jesus could have called angels down to help
him off the cross. Jesus, we know, we saw it
in scriptures. Moses fled to the wilderness, got all of
his wilderness skills. I'm sure he could build a fire

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and defend himself against wild animals, and then ended up
leading a pack of how many million people back out
into the desert, spent his time there first, and then
to go back. Even though that Pharaoh I think had
passed away, but he went back. There had to be
people there who knew of him at least. And he
was a murderer when he left, and he fled in
fear when he left. You're right, he wasn't the ultimate

(33:14):
Christian example when he left and then coming back in
and then Joseph could have done different things other than
I'm going to remain here. You go back home, get
your father, get your little brother, you know whatever, and
come back. He could have been like, enough, Okay, we're good,
the stores are there, I'm na put somebody in my position,

(33:37):
and I'm going home. I found my family and I'm leaving.
But he stayed. So there's just different instances where people
could have said no, and they said yes. And it
was remaining in the trench.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah. And where do you find them most of the
time on their face, Yes, in tears. Joseph wept. Yes.
And we and our culture make crying tears such a
weak thing. Yeah, don't cry, men don't cry. We tell
our little boys don't cry. Men don't cry. Boys don't cry.

(34:12):
But that was strength in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
I was gonna say when you started this out, Yeah, strength, Yeah, yes, Yeah,
it comes.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
To emptying ourselves and our will to do the Father's will.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And that's strength.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
That's what a living sacrifice is. Love is literally laying
itself down. We are called to be laid down lovers
of Jesus.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
And I'm thinking in our strength others can heal, right,
and then in their strength healing others can heal.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I think about what does it say about love binds
everything together? And I got to stop pumping this, but
love binds everything together, and perfect is a harmony or unity.
It might be different versions, but love is literally the
yoke that keeps us. Oh that's good connected. It binds

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all things together. It's the glue We've got to go
in the name of love, and that is Jesus.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yolk just took on a different form in my mind,
and I was thinking the egg yolk at that point,
like I knew.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
We were talking about the other yoke.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, but the minute you said that, I saw the
egg yolk like how many times in cooking and baking,
and yeah it does.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Wow. I don't know if I should have interjected that,
but there's something to that.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
That helped me see it, that helped me see it
like full picture.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Hm, wow, that's neat.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
So then when you're speaking about love in Corinthians thirteen,
love is patient, love is kind, like yeah, gives that
whole picture of like the.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Fruit of love.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I guess you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
And if you think about can I be all those
things to all people? How powerful that is? And even
it builds trust, you know, and people are able to
grow in a safe place, right, and then they can

(36:19):
become their full purpose yep in Jesus.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Yeah, because love doesn't give up love, it can't fail.
Another thing that was said to me a long time ago.
This was back in Jamie and I. My husband and
I we cut our teeth in ministry basically in a
boot camp environment and it was like orientation volunteer day,
and one of the girls inmates stood up and said,
don't give up on us like so many have before.

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Don't give up on us like so many have before.
We have sheep that are used to being lone. Yes,
they're used to being given up on and rejected. So
when we give them a seed of love, they're not
used to that, and it turns the world upside down
because love isn't what the world, you know, what can

(37:07):
I get, it's what can I give, and we've lost
hold of that.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
And there is a point in giving where people can
take advantage of it and you feel like you've given, given, given,
and God coming back. And part of love is that
doesn't matter. Yeah, if you're using me or something like that,
If you're giving into the situation where somebody is coming
along in the Lord and you're teaching them about the
Lord and they're experiencing their own relationship, God will just

(37:35):
continually pour things into you to pour into them. So
there is no end to that love when it's through
God and in God. And they have to have it
because they're gonna push up against those boundaries. They're gonna
be mean and irritable. They've been through trauma and they've
made wrong choices and they don't know the way out,

(37:56):
but we do. And so if no, if if we're
not patient with them and we don't hang in there
and just be a friend of me, loving to them
and bring them resources that are truth from God, how
are they going to get out of their situation if
we run.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (38:15):
And the same with a Christian in the church. When
a Christian breaks down and cries or is emotional through
a trauma and a situation. Don't run, don't run, get
in there with them, Yeah, and stay with them because
just because they're Christian and they love God, or they're
in ministry or you know, they attend regularly to a

(38:36):
church building or something like that, it doesn't mean when
they cry that they've lost it all, but they've lost
their relationship with God, right, So it's okay to hang
in with them, you know. It's okay for them to
continue on administer to others, that's all right. And it's
also all right to take a rest from ministry. Yes,

(38:57):
when you need to revive and refresh and go through
wilderness of your own because you're building yet another set
of skills for the Lord. Yeah, and he'll do that.
He'll remove you and put you in a wilderness. Oh yes,
because he's ready to put you into something else and
you're not ready. You know, the Israelites had to circle
the mountain how many times because he said, you're not

(39:17):
ready for battle, So we're going to go this direction.
And he does that with us. So if we do
everything in love, then we're doing it right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Is it like no coincidence that the first fruit of
the spirit listed is love, Like if we have that,
then all those things will follow. Yes, And I think
about like the wilderness, like we got to understand that
there's a difference between barrenness and pruning, because when you
cut back a tree, it can look dead. But there's
a difference between being barren things looking dead and being

(39:51):
pruned because when you're pruned, when you're in the wilderness
season and it feels like everything's been stripped away, cut away,
but there's room for grow amen, Like things are gonna bud,
things are gonna blossom. There's gonna be something beautiful that comes.
Barrenness doesn't produce that, right, Barrenness is dead, it's empty.

(40:12):
And we have to be able to sit in the
places with these people and point them in that direction.
Like even though things look dead right now, this is
just pruning and something beautiful is coming. It's proclaiming promise again,
and we need to speak it over people.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah. I had a raspberry bush at my house that
wasn't producing much fruit and when it did it was
kind of like dried a little bit and small. Yeah,
And when I looked on the internet of how to
take care of that raspberry bush has scared me a
little bit because it just said cut it all back,
and then it was saying about three years later, is
can produce the best fruit. And I think in the

(40:51):
word when they were planting trees. I don't know if
it's Leviticus or numbers somewhere, when the instructions were coming
from God. It was five years wow some of the things.
But I cut it back, and then the very next
year it produced so many berries. I was so excited.
And by the third year we had berries that were
so large and juicy, and I kind of felt like

(41:15):
not as much seed and much or fruit. But when
I cut that thing back, I thought, oh, look at that.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
It doesn't look good.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
At first, maybe I did it wrong, maybe I didn't
follow directions. But then I waited, like we wait on
the Lord. And when it came back, it was so abundant.
We enjoyed them so much more. It was so much
more productive. So it's like that, you know, when God
prins us back, it feels like we are dead and

(41:45):
we probably look horrible to others, you know, like what
happened to Christie, what happened to Champertip me, Like, what's
going on? What's going on? But then what comes out
of that, like the skills of David that we talked
about out when we come out with our slang shot,
that giant is gonna fall because we've been prune by

(42:06):
God himself and the fruit that we're bearing now is
so much more juicy and abundant and prevalent and can
be seen and can be tasted and enjoyed. Yes, it
was worth it, worth all that pain, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And let's talk about like his worship, like his worship
in the field. Literally he's sent into Saul to play
the lyre mm hmm, and it soothes Saul. It's that
a harmful spirit entered into Saul, and when David played,
the harmful spirit left him.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Have you ever experienced in worship where you come into
a room and you just feel anxiety and depression and
chaos and fear. But when you enter in, you truly
enter in, you start to feel peace, and you start
to feel His presence, and you start to feel that
fear left, and you feel the mind come over you.

(43:03):
That's healing and worship. Yes, Like we don't see into
the spiritual realm of what's going on in that moment,
but worship takes territory and it transforms lives, Amen, because
we allow the Lord to come and sit and work. Yes,
it transforms, It has transform transformational power.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Man, and people have been healed and delivered spontaneously. It
seems it's not, but it seems that way. To know.
I've seen that where we're just like nobody lays hands
on them or actively praise over them or for them.
And just in the middle of worship, everyone is so
united and magnifying God so much that God is so

(43:46):
blessed by that his glory moves and next thing you know,
you see somebody just delivered and healed.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Yeah, just like that in the presence of the Lord.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know. I always love that the Lord
is good.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
So when you see when you see Samuel the prophet
and David a worshipper, you see them being used hand
in hand time again through where we were we like
first Samuel, through that whole book. There's so much strength
and healing in that. Like everyone should go read for Samuel, Amen,
everybody should just go read it. But you see Samuel

(44:31):
and David working together in a movement. And I'm thinking
about like when Saul becomes jealous of David he pursues
his life. He tries to take him out, you know,
he tries to kill him because he became insecure. Saul
killed thousands, David killed ten thousands. And we can do

(44:55):
that in our generation too. When the younger are coming
up under beneath us and they're on fire. We've got
to be careful how we handle that, am because we
can't put that out because it's a very fire that's
meant to strike the land for the Lord to move
and revival. So we have these two working together, the

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prophetic and worship going hand in hand. And you see that.
You see that in today when we worship, When we
enter in and the prophetic is allowed to flow in
a room, there's so many beautiful things that happen, so
many beautiful things. People get healed in that, people get
transformed in that. But I was telling Tiff earlier, we

(45:39):
were off at this time, we weren't on the mics
about how the enemy likes to set up camp and destiny. Yes,
so we have David and we have on us all yeah, Samuel,
and we have Mount Gabeya, which is the hill of God.
And for Samuel and the Philistines, same Philistines that captured
the arc earlier set up camp, a Philistine garrison on

(46:02):
this hill, a stronghold. What is a stronghold a structure
meant to keep others out? This is a hill of
destiny that David would later come back and you know,
establish on that hill. But what did they do? They
set up a band of worshippers and profits. Here's another

(46:24):
instance of praise goes first and they marched up that hill.
And here comes Saul to try to stop David, to
try to kill David, and Samuel's there, Well, Saul doesn't
even come yet. Saul sends messengers, okay, And what happens
to the messengers when they come into this atmosphere. They
get caught up in it, they do. They get caught

(46:45):
up in it, and there's prophecy happening. They're prophesying, and
the messengers begin to prophesy, and Saul's like, I'll send more.
So he sends messengers three times and they all get
caught up. And what's going on on? They all get
caught up in the presence of the Lord. Yeah, here
comes King Saul. He's like, I'll go myself, then I'll

(47:07):
take care of this I'll take matters into my own hands,
and he marches after them. A man who is full
of rage at this point, jealousy in security comes into
the presence of the Lord and what's happening in worship,
and he begins to prophesy. Yes, and the people were like,

(47:27):
isn't this King Saul? Is he among the prophets? Wow?
The Lord can change a person in a moment's time. Absolutely,
a moment's time. We can run to and fro, just
like Saul trying to figure it all out, throwing our javelins.
Somebody help me, you know what I mean. But in

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a moment's time, in the Lord's presence, we can be changed,
just like that. One encounter in worship can change everything.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Amen. So true? Yeah, Wow, it's good.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
And I feel like we've all had those moments where
we've entered, we've truly entered into worship and felt the
presence of Lord and felt him work on something within us.
And I've seen it personally so many times.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
It is that's the growth in relationship with God. It's
that stretching, it's the muscle building, it's the faith's building
that we were talking about in earlier, because every time
we come through something like that, we do come out stronger.
That's the strength and worship is being able to magnify God.

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And then the next time you come in you magnify
him already, and then you start to magnify him more.
And the more that you look at the Word and
the more you advance, the kingdom just becomes so real.
God's kingdom and how God is to save his creation
and his people. That's where his heart is at. And

(49:05):
we were talking about also yoking. You know, when we
get in the yoke with God, it's coming. I always
give this dumage or this illustration where God showed me
and so I ninety one. It says to come under
the feathers of his wings, and God showed me that
just kind of look at him like that, like you know,
maybe a bird's wing or something however you want to
picture it. But you walk up to God in worship

(49:26):
and in prayer, and you just take that time and
set it aside, or even throughout the day just reaching
out to Him and your thoughts or your prayers and
just crawling under that wing. You pick it up, your
crewl under there and I remember I thought that was
really cool. But another time in prayer, the Lord came
to me again and he said, what do you see
in there? What do you hear in there? And I said, well,

(49:48):
it's dark, I'm shielded from the world, I'm shielded from
the noise. It's quiet, it's comfortable. I'm not you know,
I'm warm, I'm dry. And the Lord says, but what
do you hear? And I had to think about it,
and I thought, I hear your voice there, and I
hear your heart beat, and so it.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Almost like a womb.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
It is. Oh, that's so good. So when we're that
close to God, when we crawl under the feathers of
his wings, it puts us right in line in our
ear right next to and our heart right next to
his heart, our ear right next to where we hear
this sound from his voice. If you're snuggling up with
your mom or your grandma or your dad and they're
talking to someone, you can hear their voice like throughout

(50:30):
their body, and it's comforting. And so to go to
God like that, that is worshiped to me. And that
is where He is able to you know, we can
hear his heart, and his heart is to basically rescue
the world, and we need to become a part of that,
actively part of that. And so then their prayer becomes,

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let your kingdom come, and let your will be done
in my life and upon this earth. Let your glory
flood the earth. Let me be part of that. Make
me a vest that is clean and clear that you
can flow through any time you want, like a hose
with no mud or anything caked in there. Just and
open hose. And Lord, when you want to flow, flow,
Just put me where you need me, guide me to

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where you want me to be, and then flow there.
Let your glory flow. And then there's no question is
it him or me. It's just me showing up because
He's asked me to. And then he moves or he
moves without me, whichever I mean. God is God, but
it's just that relationship with Him, that's what the how
is so good in the worship area, Like when we

(51:35):
unite here in worship, it is so pure and God
moves every single time, and it is such a blessing.
Is overwhelming to see God magnified like that. Yeah, and
it does bring healing and it does bring strength when
you line up with God and hear his voice and
listen for his heartbeat, and his heartbeat will say talk

(51:56):
to that little old lady today and hold the door
for her, and it's immediate. Yes, I want you to
move to Africa and set up an orphanage. And the
answer is yes, you know, I want you to move
and be part of this ministry. Yes, and then God
will everything that you learn in that yes, in that wilderness,
in those battles is all building skill set. And then

(52:21):
and then the next yes comes easier, and the yes
after that, and yes after that as long as we
are obedient. That is true in pure worship because it
aligns with God's hearts desires. And then when he says,
seek my kingdom first, and I'll give you your heart's desires,
You're in line with his. And it is It does

(52:43):
bring peace on every side.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
It does.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
So I keep thinking of David, and this is the
whole new picture to me as we're sitting here and
I'm listening to you. David's strength was really found in
his mercy. His mercy because so many times Saul tried
to kill him, throw javelins, pursued his life into the wilderness.

(53:11):
Even I mean, David was hiding in caves. Yes, and
David had opportunity two times to take Saul's life, and
he spared his life because he understood that this is
still the Lord's anointed and I will not come against him.
He had mercy on Saul. It was not his purpose

(53:33):
to kill Saul. Yeah, it was his purpose to love
and serve Saul Yep as the anointing girl. And that
takes tremendous strength, it does, and loyalty. So really we're
coming down to the weak things in our own eyes
is what strength is, because there's even scripture on that.

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In our weakness, he is strong. Yes, sometimes we get
it backwards, just like we get love backwards. Good stuff,
good stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Yeah, approaching him just as you are.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, I was thinking of that earlier when you were
talking about vessels. He takes earthen vessels, well, earthen. I
think of that word like that's just clay, that's dirt,
and it's not polished. It's not perfect. It's an earthen vessel.
We don't need to be perfectly polished put together. Sometimes

(54:35):
we have cracks, but we got to trust him to
mold us into exactly what we're supposed to be. Like,
what is the content of our heart? We got to
allow him to mold that, and that just takes willingness
and saying here, I am Lord, like I am yours.
I set my heart before you, I set my face
before you.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah, and watch them work the potters will, yeah, where
we're just spinning in chaos.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
And watch him make a beautiful masterpiece.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
Yeah. It's like, Okay, I'm spinning in chaos, but I
want you to PLoP me up on your will and
put me back together.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
And it's all for his glory. It's all for his glory.
So these people get to look on at this beautiful
masterpiece and they're like, what form that? What made that?
What was it? I look back at my own life
and I was living in deadness, deadness like all around me,
Like that's what I produced in my life. And the

(55:30):
Lord's not a man literally my husband to tell me
about him, you know what I mean. And it changed
my life and he started to mold this clump of
dirt really is what it was, That's what my life
felt like. He started to mold it into something for
his glory. And I think we need to be understanding

(55:51):
of that. Like that takes time. We're not going to
figure it out overnight. Healing doesn't come like that for
a lot of people. I understand that you can be
heal in your body, like in an instance we talked
about that with coming into the Lord's presence being changed
in a moment. But a lot of times, when you
actually read the Bible and you see so many stories
over and over again, healing came through a season of

(56:14):
travailing and being flat on our faces and tears. Yes,
it takes time. It does to mold something beautiful, takes
time to grow something beautiful. Like that raspberry bush that
you referred to. It's time. You didn't wake up the
next day and there's beautiful, lush raspberries all over, right,
and you get to enjoy the different we get to

(56:38):
behold beauty, you know what I mean. You get to
enjoy the different seasons of that. So this raspberry bush
that looks dead and dull, and you're like, oh, might
be dead.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
I don't know. And it was a little fear and
discouragement I had to chase away there.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, but then you get to see it. You get
to see like these buds and it's like a hope
of life. Yeah, the hope of a future. You see
these little buds and if faith rises up in us, right,
and then you see it blossom and you're like, wow,
that's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Before the fruit loved that.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
And then you see the fruit and it's not just fruit,
it's fruit that grows over time and becomes more juicy
and more luscious. And then you get to taste and
you get to see that it is good.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
And it takes time. Yes, yes, And then the seeds
come out and the process again wow.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
And a lot of times what people don't understand is
you get to see the fruit, You get to taste
and see. But maybe they didn't see what looked dead
at one time. They didn't see you pruning it, and
they didn't see the inner workings of the tree or
the bush. That's really where it all comes from, our
secret place, time allowing him to cut us back and

(57:55):
to mold us and to who he wants us to be.
Because in your eyes, that raspberry bush did not look
like what you wanted it to be at first. Now,
but the Lord brought something more beautiful than you could
even understand. It was abundance.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
True God functions in abundance. He is abundance, Yeah, is
not all financial, Like if we broaden our horizons and
realize that, you know, pull those tent pegs out further, yes,
and not focus on one little thing, but just to
look us on God, who he is his abundance Psalm
one thirty nine sixteen. It's one of my favorite verses.

(58:33):
He wrote the book. He wrote a book about us.
He wrote our purpose down before the beginning of time,
our time, and before we were even thought of. And
his focus is to get us there. And in that
we find contentment because it's the reason why we're here,
and it connects with God's desires and it all comes
out good.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Godliness. With contentment is great gain, great gang, great gain
for everything and everyone. Because when you're functioning at full
capacity like that raspberry bush, that is abundance. That is
great game. Yeah, it's not just for you anymore. You
have to give away. You've got so much, you have
to give it away.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
And it was dying, and as it was dying, those
they the dead, are they branches. I don't know what
you call it on a but yeah, the things that
we're dying, we're pulling from the source. Yeah, and so
death doesn't need that life needs that, So you cut
off the dead stuff, and then what is living and

(59:34):
can really get in there and be abundant and multiply
can then pull fully from the source.

Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, I was thinking of the abundance. What happens to
the abundance if it doesn't get used up.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Well, the birds steal it something it's gonna fall and
rot or the birds steal it.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Yeah, yeah, it goes to waste. Yeah m hm, yeah,
good point. I mean bears can randomly come along and
enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
But oh yeah yeah, oh yeah, but so I guess
things can happen kind of secondary too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
What's going on? The Lord uses everything? Yeah, all things.
But that is such a good point. If we just
leave the abundance be it has the wrong result and
it has it multiplied as it should.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, in the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Hands of someone else, it can become a pie or
another gift of someone else they're jelly or.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't go to benefit and maybe like
who that should have been for misses out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Yeah, you're right, you're so right. I'm like picturing this
in my mind right now, Like what does that look like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
If Samuel's mom would have changed her mind and said,
thank you Lord for this little guy. I can't separate
myself from him. I love him so much. He's my baby.
Lord can't do it, yea. And even saying, but you
gave him to me exactly. Maybe God didn't mean that.
Maybe I heard that wrong. Yeah, God wouldn't take my
little boy and put him in ministry when I just

(01:01:23):
had him. I prayed my whole life for this. Yeah,
and I have to give him away. But her obedience,
Look what it did. Jesus came from Na. Yes, Jesus
came from Ruth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
It just goes to show like everything that seems so
small in detail can be really big. Like Sarah didn't
just birth a child, she birthed the nation. Ruth comes
on the line. There's Jesus again, Annah burst a prophetic nation.

(01:02:01):
These in the little details, and he'll make them big.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Just goes to show how little a seed is. Because
you guys were talking about seeds. Yeah, one little seed
creates a massive harvest and an abundant harvest.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
And sometimes you can't even see the seed. Like honestly,
when I garden sometimes and like I can't really see
some of the smaller seeds that I'm putting in the dirt,
like you don't know they're there. Sometimes you have to
have faith that they are yeah, yeah, or how many
you are putting in there, and then yeah, you definitely
make abundance.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Out of that. And sewing into good soil. Yeah, it
has to produce that seed. Yeah, and the seed is
dead unless you put it into the soil, it doesn't grow.
But once you put it in the soil, if it's
good soil, and sometimes even if it's bad soil, I mean,
weeds grow where but it can't help itself to grow. Yeah,

(01:03:05):
it's going to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And then we pluck the weeds.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
We help it along with water and all of that.
And eventually, if we deny it what it needs, if
we deny it the true horse, if we deny ourselves
the presence of God and the Lord and the scriptures,
we can die off. But once that seat is sown,
if it's sewn correctly, it will grow. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Man, I'm just so stuck on that abundance, like I
have to give life.

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
God is out of multiplication. We are supposed to multiply
everything everything. If you're a mom, if you're a librarian,
if you're you know, what is a job where you
were kind of alone. I don't know what that would
be an author I don't know. You're still supposed to multiply.
Find a way to multiply if you're in solitary confinement,

(01:03:54):
in jail somewhere, find a way to multiply. If all
you do is sing praises, you know, maybe those doors
will open. Yes, that's a whole different We can't go
on that right now. But in the New Testament, Yeah,
and worship opened the doors of a prison. And then
we were talking about earlier the trenches like they remained there. Yeah,

(01:04:15):
and a guy and his whole family gets saved, his
whole family.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Wow, It's like, oh wow. It goes on and on
it does and impact generations. What we do now will
impact generations sitting right here, Like I believe in this podcast,
like this is the word multiplying. And we see that
with the early Church, Like what what caused the multiplication

(01:04:41):
in the early Church? It was the word spoken, It
was the word heard, and then it was duplicated and
it caused multiplication. Yes, throughout the whole region. Yes, and
I believe that for here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
I do too. Yeah, I do too. In every sea
that we sew yep. So, in essence, if we sow
seeds every day of some kind, whether we're you know
it's praise and worship or whether we're giving, or whether
we sow a seed of scripture into our lives or
someone else's. If you sow every day, ultimately you will
harvest every day. Yeah. So somebody might have a prayer

(01:05:18):
right now of something and they're like, well, I sowed
seeds and I want the harvest. But if you sow
every day, that harvest will come right when you need it. Again,
in faith, we know it's there if God calls you
to it. Everything that He wanted for your purpose he
had set up you just move it over from the
unseen into the scene. But the other thing is like,

(01:05:39):
if you're expecting a harvest, if you're expecting to be healthy,
if you're expecting your kids to write on, you know,
walk on the right path, whatever you're expecting, if you
sow the seeds every day into that, you will harvest
every day down the line. Yeah. I mean, you're gonna
harvest corn much quicker than you harvest carrots. But you
sowed the seeds hereing there. Well, if you sow carrot

(01:06:01):
seeds every day, you're gonna have a harvest of carrots
every day. You're right, you know what I'm saying. And
if you're so cornous, then to take over the planets.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
It's like the measure you give, it'll be given to you.
It's all through the word, And it's better to give
than to receive, because the greater measure does come back,
and sometimes our healing comes through that. Because there's been
so many times that I can get caught up in
my own stuff, Like in my past, I could be
so caught up in my own stuff that I would

(01:06:31):
go to a place of worship thinking about myself. And
the Lord doesn't always pamper my flesh, right, He's not
there to pamper your flesh. Andy doesn't come to do
worship to pamper my flesh. I've come to pamper my flesh.
And then when I don't get it, I leave frustrated.

(01:06:52):
I leave disappointed, discouraged because it was about me. Now,
when I come to pour out at the feet of Jesus,
I'm right smack dab in the center of his will.
So it's easier for me to give to others in
greater measure, and that is more fulfilling to me than

(01:07:13):
anything else. Nothing that I can come to receive is
better than what I can give out of love, out
of his abundance to somebody else.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
So I was just getting more revelation on that it's
better to give than to receive, because when you give
your planting seeds for multiplication, when you receive, you're eating
your seed. Oh yeah, you're consuming your seed and there
is no return, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
That is kingdom. That's why you know, we're not going
to talk about tithing right now, but tithing is a
part of that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Tithing is your seed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
In a way, and are you willing to give up
that ten percent with your whole heart or are you
going to sit around argue it's a part of worship too.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Yeah, yeah, the part of worship.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I was thinking about what you were saying, Champ. I
had a discussion with a friend last night and we
were talking about diet and nutrition and things like that,
and so when it comes to we were talking about
when it comes to eating, do we feed our soul
or do we feed the spirit. And that was an
incredible revelation for me, because I'll get angry or I'll

(01:08:25):
wait too long, I won't plan accordingly and then you
get to the hungry spot where I'm just gonna eat anything. Yep,
Because I had said how I had gone to a
fast food restaurant and I'm on my road to healing
and something and sometimes when I yes, when I get nutrition,
I feel so much better. But I had not planned accordingly,
and I ended up just running through a drive through

(01:08:46):
and grabbing a sandwich and just felt like the next
day and a half like it. Just so, we were
talking about diet and she was saying about that and
I said, oh my goodness, like every decision does this
feed my soul? Or does this feed this is a
great place to start. And even in talking about love
and even in talking about how Samuel's mom sacrificed by

(01:09:09):
bringing him to the temple, it all is that question
and to something. This is going to be really obvious,
and I've heard it and I've looked at it too,
but it hit my heart last night, like even down
to that sandwich, was I going to feed the soul
or feed the spirit? And maybe it came to maybe,
you know what, I'm going to take this and sew
it is fasting and deny myself. Yeah, and just see

(01:09:33):
what the Lord might have but no, I ran into
the consequences for it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
But it happened.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
But you know, with everything that we've been talking about,
it's the same thing. So did Samuel's mom feed her
soul or her spirit? She chose to sew him into
her spirit and follow God and say yes. And it benefited.
It benefited, It benefited all of God's creation forever because
since Jesus came along, now we have eternal life, and

(01:10:04):
we have the benefit of passing from this life into
the presence of fully into the presence of God and
always having Him and never dying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
So when you said that, I just had like epiphany
about be still inn and that actually means be still
let go, Like worship is letting go. It's honoring the
Lord in the moment and letting go of our will.
I think about Moses's mother having to let go of

(01:10:34):
that basket as it just floats on down the river,
not knowing if you ever see that child again. Yeah,
Or Hannah handing over Samuel, not knowing what he's going
to grow up in. What is life's going to be?
Like Ruth letting go of her past and walking into
something completely new and out of her comfort, not knowing

(01:10:58):
it's letting go, letting go of our will so that
the Father's will can become manifest through.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Us and Sarah following Abraham. Yeah, what do you do
when your husband comes to you and says, well, God
told me we're gonna go wherever. He says, He's gonna
tell us where, but we just pack. Let's pack and go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
You see it so many times, Jesus getting on the
cross and letting go of his own will to do
the Father's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Will, sewing into that spirits to the soul. Yeah, an
abundance and multiplication and true worship.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Wow, Okay, any other thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
I feel like I'm just like undone in the Lord's
presence with some of this, honestly, Like, and I pray
that for people out there too, that like you will
just hear this and you will have a deeper connection
with the Lord and a greater revelation of his love
that literally will be get strength and healing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Amen. So true. We think it's about us sometimes and our.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
That's always to get caught up in that, you know,
that is like the scheme of the enemy, like let's
look at you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Yeah, Yeah, there is strength in worship and in waiting
on the Lord. All right, Well, I had a scripture
picked out at Tewod Samuel seven, verses eighteen through twenty nine.
I'm sorry I didn't write down the version that it
came from, but it talks about Actually I thought I

(01:12:38):
typed it here, but I did not. I apologize for that.
But it's David. And he went in and sat before
the Lord. So his posture of worship and prayer, prayer
that in that point was that he went in and
sat before the Lord. So he sought out the presence
of God. Yeah, he approached God, and then he sees
God as God. So it says, who am I, Lord God?

(01:13:03):
And what is my house that you have brought me
thus far? Then he shows his awe of the living God.
He says, this is a small thing in your eyes,
O Lord God. And then he acknowledged that God knows
all about us. He says, what more can I say?
You know your servant, oh Lord, gone, according to your

(01:13:25):
own heart. You have brought about all this greatness to
make your servant know it. And then he recognized the
greatness of God. You are great, oh Lord God. There
is none like you. There is no God besides you. Yeah,
So I just kind of wanted to emphasize that that's
what we've been talking about, is making a relationship with
God in a way that you have approached him so

(01:13:49):
much and you've been through so much with him that
you realize who he is, You really really realize that
he is real, Yeah, and that he's so full of
love for us us, and he wants good for us,
and he's here. He helps rescue us and heal us
and deliver us, and he gives us everything that we
need to worship, praise him, get through life, raise our kids,

(01:14:12):
everything that we have. He's there to help us, and
he shows us the way to do it. It's our
position to get in there, yeah, and get into his
presence and sit down with him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
And I think worship and praise connects us to that,
It connects us to his greatness absolutely, yeah. And we
can see his goodness in the land of the living.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Autely.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
It is not just like, oh, I'm here just to
get to heaven. No, you were here now, and his
goodness is in the land of the living. It is
here now, So what will you do with it now?
Am I always say like I've got a reason to worship. Yes,
I've got a reason to praise. I was dead and

(01:14:52):
now I'm alive. Yes, I'm alive. I feel so alive.
Yeah it makes me want to shout Yes. Yeah, me too. Yeah,
we won't do it now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
In my case, I had gone my own way, and
I had fed my soul until it was just all
fat and bloated. Yeah. I think we all learned it
in the name of the Lord. I've been I've been
safe since I was three years old. I met Christ
and I knew exactly what I was doing, exactly who
he was, exactly what he did. Three years old, just
tiny and trying to live my life out for him.
I built this great life family house, just like everybody else.

(01:15:30):
But I was consulting the Lord and praying. But I
was praying as if I had my list. Yeah, oh Lord,
I want this house so bad. Oh, let me get
the loan, let me get the load. And it was
such a turnaround. It all imploded, it went, and then
I was sitting there in the presence of God going
where did it go?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Where did it go?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Yeah? And I've done my testimony before. I won't do
it now because we're wrapping up but I just God
showed me a vision of a puzzle and it was
every It was like a five hundred piece a table,
so you guys can picture it, but every piece was
different and it was all from different puzzles. Clearly, wow, okay.
So I'm looking at him like, yeah, look at that.
I built that. And in this vision I felt my pride.

(01:16:12):
I was like, yeah, look what I did. Look what
I did. God took it in that vision and threw
it up in the air and when it came down,
there was nothing left of it. It was just five
hundred pieces falling separately, not one chunk stuck together, no,
completely separate. And the vision I was like, oh, why
did you do that? I worked so hard on that.
I've worked my whole life on that. But I had

(01:16:35):
come to a place where I was praying your can
come or will be done. And I trust you, Lord,
I really do trust you. I trust you. I've been
through enough and I know who you are now and
this is our relationship. And he's like, yeah, this is
the start of our relationship. We're going to build a puzzle,
but we're going to do it together. And in the vision,
he took a piece a beautiful, brand new piece of puzzle,

(01:16:57):
and I love nature and I could tell it was
from nature. And he set it on the table all
by itself, and he said, I'm giving you the first one,
and we're going to.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
Do this together, thank goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
And from that point on, I just drawn deeper with him.
I draw and I have days I'm human. My friends
have seen this side of me. But it's all about
in those days when I'm crying so hard and I'm like,
I can't do this, I can't do this. All of
that will come into your lives, our lives, my life.

(01:17:27):
But what the difference is is in those moments saying
I feel like I'm totally human right now, I mess up,
you know, I've really messed up. But God, I choose
you as God again. I make you Lord again.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Yeah, come Lord over my flesh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
I'm letting it go like you talked about Champ and
it's yours and if I have to cry my way
through it, if you know, and ultimately end up praying
my way through it, turning on worship or singing, warp
out and concentrating on God. And once that focus shifts,
it clicks boom and God is so magnified, and then

(01:18:09):
the strength comes along with the healing, and he's fighting
the warfare. All of this warship and praise is just
that real closeness, that communication with God and being in
that place, Like, no matter what I look like to
anybody right now, my heart wants you one hundred percent.
And I am the vessel and I will do what
you say, and I will say yes and I will

(01:18:30):
obey why because you've proven yourself as my God and
my father, and I know when you ask me, no
matter what it looks like, it's okay, and I'm gonna
say yes, and we're gonna do it together. And he's
building that puzzle and it's beautiful, and I just I
want to encourage the whole entire world, like get this

(01:18:51):
frame of mind. Don't be so afraid of what you
cannot control, and don't be afraid of letting go of
what you've built, because what you've built right thinks right,
it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
I feel like we could really get stuck there too,
Like when you said the Lord threw the puzzle into
the air, we can get so stuck on like what
is he doing? Yeah, Like I don't understand what he's
doing in this moment. So now I'm frustrated and I'm angry.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
You can get down and chase those pieces, yeah yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
You could try to scatter to put it all back together,
but it's just it's all going to crumble again someday.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Amen.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
When oh, I see that picture, it's like viral of
the little girl standing there and she's crying because he's
taking like a ratter like Teddy Bear from her, but
has this big, beautiful one behind his back ready to
give to her. Like if we could just see what's
in his hands that he's willing to give over, or
sit down at the table with him and let him

(01:19:47):
build with us. I think if that's like childlike faith,
like a child putting together a puzzle and they're frustrated
because I can't do it, and then the parent comes
in and sits down and you're like, oh, it's dad,
Like he's coming to spend time with me. Let's do
this together. Like that comes down to that child like
wonder and faith, and I love that. I want more

(01:20:09):
of that, Like dad comes to sit down at the
table with me and we get to build something together.

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
And when you line up with the kingdom, you know,
trust the Lord with all your heart and forgetting on
all his benefits. So when you come into that and
trust him and he sits down besides you, and you're
real net puzzle together, father and child, you get all
the benefits. You have the army of God on your side,
you have the angels of God on your side, you
have the will of God on your side, The Kingdom
of God is on your side, the love of the Father,

(01:20:38):
and he pulls it all in yep, because the friends
I lost were replaced. Like everything that was lost and gone, Yeah,
wasn't good for me anyhow, and much of it was
not good for the kingdom at all looking back, I
mean admitting it. Yeah, but everybody and everything that he's
brought back into my life, one at a time is

(01:20:59):
such a bless sing. It's a true blessing. And now
I see when something tries to get in that doesn't
belong and I reject it. Yeah, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Yeah, It's like when you have that juicy bush of
like all those mature raspberries, you notice like there's this
one area that's not looking so great. Well, there's a pest.
We gotta get rid of that yep.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Yeah, or it's dying. Cut it off. Yeah, I know
what to do now. Yeah, bring that baby right off there.
Cut off because five are gonna grow in his place. Yeah,
you know, yeah, get rid of it. Don't even tolerate it. Okay,
everybody's hearts and minds clear of everything. I feel like

(01:21:45):
the Lord has to say, feel good. Yeah good, God,
bless the audience listening, anybody who's listening in today. You
were meant to be here, Yes, Father, God has led
you here, and he's so full of love and we
love you. And just let it sink in and soak in,
you know, and do what's the next best and the

(01:22:06):
next right thing is whatever God is telling you to
do next, do that. Don't be overwhelmed. This is a
lot of information, a lot of revelation. Is beautiful, so
soak it in. Come back and visit this one again,
make some notes, pray over it, and just let the
Lord guide you and heal you. It's common. Be patient
in it, you know, reach out, do what you have
to do to get through it. So I'm just gonna pray,

(01:22:29):
all right, Mother God, I just thank you so much
for these opportunities Lord to just multiply your kingdom. Lord,
to talk about these beautiful women of God and what
they had to give up, Lord, how many of us
would give up our little ones for your kingdom and Lord,
But the thing is the best place to do that
is to you, Lord. We should be doing that with

(01:22:50):
our little ones, even if we're not physically putting them
in a basket or dropping them off at the temple. Lord,
but just as moms to just, or moms to be,
or moms who want to be to just, you know,
give that over to you and make you lord of
that and say you know, I trust you, Lord with everything,
because ultimately God is for your kingdom and it's for
the good. And Lord, we thank you for the ability

(01:23:12):
to come to you. That Jesus died on the cross
and sacrificed himself shed that blood. It cries out to
you in our place, Lord, that Jesus went to the grave, Lord,
that he was full of your holy spirit, and that
that resurrection power brought him out of that grave. And Lord,
as he as he went to heaven and he walked
into your presence as your beloved son. He's now the

(01:23:35):
king of kings and Lord of lords. He now sat
down at your right hand of power. He occupies a
throne there. And because of that, the veil and the
temple ripped from top to bottom. Because of that, his
Holy Spirit, because of one hundred and twenty people who
united in worship and prayer and with your heart's desire,

(01:23:55):
and they obeyed you and they said yes. Because they
met in that upper room, your spirit came down and
through them. And since that moment, Lord, you're filling the planet.
Your glory is just filling the planet. And God, your gospel,
your truth is multiplying. Your love is multiplying. And that's
why we're here, and that's what it's all about. Lord,

(01:24:17):
help us to be available to you, help everybody listening
and us who are speaking, Lord, to be obedient, to
say yes, and to just grab hold of you and
stay in your presence and crawl under your feathers and
let you help build the puzzle and hold your hand.
All that we've talked about. God, help us to actively
participate in that. And Lord, there are times when you're

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gonna say, stand still and just watch me show off.
Watch the Lord's victory come forth, you know, watch my
glory shine in this. And then we do. But God,
you can command all things, and you do it so well.
So Lord, I say, be my Lord. I say yes,
be my God. I choose you. Lord, help us to
choose you this day that we will serve you. Us

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and our house is Lord. Lord, I pray for the
men out there. Lord. We touched on this earlier in
a podcast. I'm not sure how we're separating this, but
we touched on this earlier how the men of God
brought their wives and their little ones to the temple
to fast into worship in the podcast where we talked
about warfare. Lord, and they were responsible, godly men, and

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they brought their families and they united together. Lord, It's
all about that. So Lord, I just pray for for
your kingdom to come, Your will to be done on
this earth in our lives. Lord, Unity, unity with you
with each other, in our families. God in the kingdom
and Lord mayor Kingdom may or will be done. And
we pray it in the name of Jesus, with his

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authority that He's given to us as his bride. Amen.
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Bye for now.