The mind is a curious trickster, delighting in dreams where logic pirouettes in absurdity. In today's extraordinary episode, we welcome Andrew Shaffer, a humorist and New York Times bestselling author whose wit slices through the storms of reality with a twinkle in his eye and a chainsaw in hand. From the earliest pages of his life, Andrew Shaffer was destined to dance with the ridiculous and sublime. As a child, he devoured horror and science fiction with a ravenous appetite, only to find himself drawn back to these imaginative playgrounds after a detour through the hallowed halls of literary fiction. His journey led him, almost inevitably, to the playful chaos of "How to Survive a Sharknado," a manual for the absurd that demands both laughter and preparation.

In the dance of ideas, Andrew revealed how the birth of the Sharknado survival guide was as spontaneous as a tornado filled with teeth. Inspired by the original cult film, he offered his humorous talents when Random House and SyFy decided to create a companion book. Imagine being tasked with making flying sharks scientifically plausible; as he put it, "I had to talk to a marine biologist and ask, not could this happen, but how it might happen." It is in such delightfully impossible questions that the spirit of creativity is set loose.

Throughout the conversation, there was a beautiful lightness, the kind one finds when nonsense is taken seriously. Andrew's research involved binge-watching over 30 sci-fi films—some genuine, some fabricated solely for the book—to weave an interconnected universe of mayhem. When asked how one might survive a Sharknado, he smiled into the void and said, “The answer in the book is simple: Stand and fight. Grab a chainsaw.” It is a lesson not just for storms of sharks, but for all the monstrous whirlwinds that life throws at us. Yet beneath the chuckles and chainsaws, Andrew's words echoed a deeper wisdom. Too much meta-awareness, he warned, robs a story of its soul. "If everybody's in on the joke," he said, "then the joke itself isn’t that funny anymore." Ah, but isn’t that true of life itself? When we cling too tightly to cleverness, we risk missing the raw wonder that makes each absurdity luminous. 

Perhaps the most chilling revelation of the day was the invincibility of the ghost shark, a creature birthed from sci-fi chaos. Manifesting from toilets, swimming pools, and even water bottles, it served as a reminder: some forces cannot be outrun; they must be met with courage, humor, and an open heart.


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Speaker 3 (01:37):
This is a very important podcast because we're gonna teach
you in this episode to how to survive as Sharknato. Now,
Sharknado three is going to air on the Sci Fi
Channel in July to twenty second. This is going up
the day before, but if you're a subscriber, it's going
up about one or two days early, so you can
get even quicker preparation for battling this shark Nato. I

(02:00):
know you're all very interested, so I'm gonna get right
into it and without further ado, here's the interview with
Andrew Schaeffer, author of How to Survive a Shark Nato.
Shooting Me Today is Andrew Shafer. Andrew is a humorist
and New York Times best selling author who works include
the Great Philosophers who failed at Love The Good Reached
Choice semi finalis Fifty Shames of El L. Gray t

(02:26):
and sci fi is How to Survive a Shark, Nato
and other natural unnatural disasters. Andrew, how are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm awake. It's about three pm here on the.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
West Coast, so very cool. So could you just give
us a little bit about your background and you know,
how you guys started as an author?

Speaker 5 (02:48):
How I gets started as an author. I've always sort
of been I was always into reading as a child,
and I sort of thought that the natural thing then
was to start writing.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
And I didn't.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
I don't think I realized early on that not everybody
who who reads books, you know, gets the inclination to
also write them. It just felt like a very natural
progression to me. But early on, as a child, I
was very much into horror and science fiction. Any type

(03:24):
of mystery, any type of genre of fiction was really
what I sort of devoured at the time. Then I
took a little detour in terms of I went to
college where I studied at at the University of Iowa
with writers workshop students there, which is a very it's

(03:46):
much more of a literary.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Fiction sort of.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Training, and I got into that for a little bit
a while, but I found myself sort of gravitating more
back towards.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Genre fiction and young adult.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Just stuff that that was sort of more entertaining, I thought.
And that's kind of where I find myself right now,
is going from maybe sort of more of literary nonfiction
books moving more into genre stuff like the How to
Survive a Shark Nado.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, very cool, and that's a very important book because
we all know shark news can happen. So I wanted
to ask you, how did you actually pitch this book?
I mean, did you actually pitch it to Sci Fi
as as like, because I know in the book you
cover other of their movies too.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I mean the great thing about this was I watched
Shark Nado, the first movie, and I let my agent know.
I was like, if you know, if there's like a
novelization or something, I'd love to do that. Of course
there wasn't with the first movie, but then she heard
that Random House and the Sci Fi Channel we're looking
to do something with the second movie, some type of

(05:04):
tie in, and they had the idea to do a
survival guide sort of like the Zombie Surraval Guide by
Max Brooks, and it was something that I did, so
I don't think. I don't think originally, you know, they
thought really thought of me because I wasn't writing any
type of genre stuff at the time. I just had
a parody come out though, fifty Shames of Earth Grade,

(05:26):
so they kind of said, well, you kind of do
the humor writing, and I did a sample for it.
They ended up liking it and asking me to write
the book then, so it came together pretty fast.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
I had to watch about, I don't know, it was like.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Thirty or forty different sci fi movies to actually write
the book and sort of ties them all together, sort
of in one universe.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Okay, excellently. So you know, when you did actually pitch
the sci fi were they really open to using all
their other movies as well. We had a.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
List to go off of.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
I mean, I had some that I wanted to use
that we weren't able to, but they had a list of,
you know somewhere probably about fifty or sixty that they
had licensing that we could work with, and then there
was just a munch that were off limits. So it
was basically I had to go with what they gave
me and then sort of narrow it down from there,

(06:24):
and then we actually ended up creating a bunch for
the for the guide books. So there's about ten or
twelve in there. I think that are actually unique and
original to the book.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
And what's cool is because if you haven't seen all
the sci fi movies, you can actually go through and
try to figure out which ones are created and which
ones are actually real movies.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah, that's that's the funny thing. I've had some people
pick up the book and go, how did you come
up with some of this crap? I'm like, I didn't.
You know you can actually go either like there should
be a movie about this, And I'm like, well, guess what,
you know. You you can go see a Korana Conda
movie and it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
So, h could you elaborate, you know, on some of
the monsters that you wanted to use but you couldn't.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
I don't I don't even really remember exactly which ones
we couldn't use off the top of my head.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
But I know that you know, there were We had
to sort of narrow it down to to what what
was sort of we didn't want to have, like like
thirty different shark based ones, you know, So there were some.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
But we used used most of the.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
The big sci fi channel movies that that they've done
that were kind of hits, like Shark to Puss and Pirana,
Conda and stuff, even Stone at Out. So it was
so it was there wasn't really a lot that was
left on the cutting room floor.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I'd say, okay, interesting. So you know, so when you're
writing this book and you're piecing this all together, did
you actually watch each individual movie and sort of make
a list and make a lot of notes on each Oh,
oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
I had to watch every movie that we included three,
four or five times to really pick up everything that
was going on and kind of look at different angles
and stuff.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
So it was really I approached.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
It sort of like I did my non fiction books,
which was just a lot of research, and then I
had to try to figure out scientific explanations for how
some of this stuff happened in the real world.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
And you know, they're.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
That's not something they're thinking about really when they're making
the movie. They're thinking to make something entertaining, but to
write it down in a book, I was like, I
need to come up with reasons why you know, sharks
can survive when flying around inside of a tornado? You
know what, how do I make that sort of believable?
And so I like talked to like a marine biologist

(09:02):
for that, and I was like, it was like, how
did you know is this you.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Know not it could this happen?

Speaker 5 (09:08):
But but what's a logical way to make this, you know, happen.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
So when you when you interviewed that marine biologist, did
hear she know what shark Nada was before you talk
to them?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, the biologists spoke to She was
a she was a huge fan of these sci fi
movies actually, and and was, you know, really thrilled to
answer my questions and stuff. She's like, she's like, we
really love them. They're yeah, they're I don't want to say, uh, he's.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
The word terrible. I forget what word she used, but
I mean they're just they're just entertaining.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
You can turn your mind off while watching them.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
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Speaker 5 (09:58):
And you don't have to worry about the scientific stuff
behind it. And I said, it's just just for pure
you know, entertainment value.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, I was just you know, when you brought
that up, I was actually wondering, you know, if if
if she hadn't heard of that, and you just went,
you know, uh, you know, could a shark and a
tornado come together? And she would have been like, could
you get this crazy man out of my office? Please?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I know, I know, yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
So yeah, So some of that stuff, you know, was
was a lot of fun to sort of research, you know,
and then there's other stuff. I mean, I think there
was one movie that I watched that I watched it
probably ten times, and I couldn't figure out anyway not
only to make the science work in real life, but
I couldn't figure out how the science worked.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
In the movie.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
I was like, this movie doesn't really make much sense.
And I was like, I'm probably gonna cut this one.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Out of the book.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
So you know, you know, you now you wrote this
book during the UH and it coincided with the release
of Sharknado two. So you know, so now with Shark
Hair three coming out, you know, I wanted to ask you, what,
what are some of your expectations about Sharknair three.

Speaker 5 (11:09):
You know, I really didn't have any expectations even for
the second Sharknado because I hadn't I hadn't seen it
ahead of time or read the script or anything.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So the second one itself was kind of a surprise.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
I kind of, you know, had an idea of that
it would kind of be a little bit more meta
than the first one, and it was. And so the
third one, I'm you know, I was I'm kind of
hoping it goes a little bit back to.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Basics.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
But which is you know, really taking the concept as
seriously as possible.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I think it's something that once it gets.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
To meta, it becomes if everybody's in on the joke,
you know, than than the joke itself.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Isn't that funny anymore?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
So I kind of like, see and we're serious, But
but I don't really know what direction they're gonna take it. Yeah,
I want to say, a more personal Sharknado film. Maybe
that's where you have to reboot the franchise.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And yeah, I really want to see a more like
uh David Lynchian Sharknado film, you know. But but yeah,
you know, I completely agree with you on that point.
I you know, I also noticed that in the second
one there was a lot more celebrity cameos, like pretty much,

(12:32):
you know what I mean, Like every time they went somewhere,
there's a celebrity I hear. Now there's like even more
celebrities and Sharknado three.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Oh yeah, it's everybody wanted to wants to, you know,
be in on it, be on on a joke.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
And I think, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:47):
If it's a situation where the celebrities are just contacting
them and say I'll work for no money or something,
and they're like, how can we refuse that?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
You know, they really can't say.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
You know, if even Hasselhoff wants to be in your
movie or something, they for no money, it really can't
say no to that. It's not like they're recording these celebrities,
I would think. So, I mean, yeah, I think it's
just gonna have It's definitely gonna have more celebrity cameos.
If you tried to play a celebrity cameo with drinking

(13:19):
game or something with Sharp Nato too, you would have died.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
I mean, there were so many that are coming so
fast you didn't even know. You know, you can't even
tell who was an actor, who was a celebrity.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
You know, it was.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
It was.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
It came pretty.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Fast and curious it did. And I think you're right too.
I think there might have been called people who who
attempted to do a drinking game and the results probably
weren't so well for them. So you're jumping back to
your book, you know, in the chapter you have an
entire you know chapter obviously just to shark nado. So

(13:53):
you know, I have to answer a question, is, you know,
how do you survive a shark nado?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
How do you survive a sharpnado?

Speaker 5 (14:04):
A lot of people said just don't watch it, but
I mean, I mean this simple answer of you know,
how do you survive a sharknado? Is some people think, oh,
well I survive I survive it by uh, you know,
going to the basement, same way and survive a tornado,
which really doesn't work because a lot of times during

(14:25):
a sharknado you also have associated flooding with that. The
only way to really escape it is to just drive
as fast as possible out of town, which if you're
in LA or someplace elsewhere, there's going to be a
bunch of traffic jams or something that's just not going
to be possible.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
So you know, there's there's really no good answer that
you know.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
The answer in the book is you know, stand and fight,
you know, grab a chainsaw, grab.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Whatever you can, and you know, and and.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Fight back when these things flying at you. So you know,
But I but personally, I'm I'm not like a survivalist
or anything. I mean, I had to research survival stuff
for the book, but I don't, you know, I don't.
I'm so bad about falling in real life, you know,
and like I don't have like a unnatural disaster, kid,

(15:18):
I don't have, you know, three palettes of bolbed water
stored up here, which I probably should.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
After reading that New Yorker article on on earthquakes on
the Pacific Northwest.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
This week, so.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, I read that same article. Apparently in fifty years,
Seattle is just going to be nothing.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah, yeah, Seattle is going to get the worst of it.

Speaker 5 (15:42):
I think Portland, where I'm at, it's you know, it's uh,
there's going to be some some stuff fall off the
wall or something.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
I don't know, it's not it's not gonna be too
bad in Portland, I don't think.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, And just in case he doesn't know what Andrew
and I are talking about. I'll link to that in
the show notes so you can read up on that
and then uh, you know, get scared to death. You'd
be like, oh my god. So you know, uh, Andrew,
I've had some some fan questions come in if you
don't mind answering a few, sure. So the first question
I received was, Andrew, what was the most unstoppable monster

(16:19):
that you researched for the book.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
The most unstoppable monster was the ghost shark.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Because there's just really no good way to stop a
ghost trage like like there. It was actually a movie
too with with the guy from uh Bowl from Night Court.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I was in this movie and.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
This shoke appeared manifested anywhere there was water, so it
was in a swimming pool, one came out of a toilet,
another came out of a bobble of water, and there
was no way to get away from it anywhere, you win.
I was just like, and it never got full of
eating people, so it.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Just went around and around this.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
Eating people and stuff. And I'm like, how do you
stop this thing? And I'm trying to think of you
know there you basically it's you have to do some
elaborate ghost trapping or something. But but really it was
like it was like on on on, you know, on

(17:28):
one to one level, you know, on an individual level,
there was nothing you could do to stop it besides
find the the whatever.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Talisman it was in the movie. So yeah, ghost try.
Pretty frightening stuff.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
See, I'll have to check that movie out because I
had no idea that was actually a real movie.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
Oh my god, it is amazing. It's just just the
number of uh number. There's there's this amazing bikini car
wash scene where where the ghost Sharp materializes out of
a bucket of water.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
It's it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Uh. So you know, a follow up question is, you know, Andrew,
are you playing on writing a sequel to the book?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (18:17):
No, no, uh And basically I think, you know, I don't.
I don't know what else I could say about Sharp
Natos or actually about most paranormal threats or supernatural stuff
like that. But but I am working on another book
that will hopefully be sort of along the similar lines

(18:40):
as far as horror goes.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Oh, very cool. Could you tell us a little bit
about it or you want to keep it hush hush?

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Uh, It's like super hush, hush, right now.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Okay, so all right, and then on to the next
question we had come in from Michelle the trainer, who
was a big fan of the show. Uh, is Andrew
a scuba diver?

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Conservationalist or so? I'm sorry that was the first part
of the question. Sorry, I was just reading or reading reading. Uh,
so are you a scuba diver? Andrew? No, I'm not.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
No, No, I've never gone scuba diving.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And uh. The second part of that was any plans
for Shark Depuss?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
Well, I like survival for the shark to puss.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Yeah, so the Shark.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Depus is in the book, but in terms of uh, there's.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
A new movie coming out Shark de Purse Versus Whale
woof which is the third Shark Depus movie, and and
which are which again if you haven't seen the Shark
Depus movies, those are phenomenally entertaining as well. But in
terms of how to survive as shark de plus again,

(19:53):
it was like I started to write some of some
of these and I was like, the best thing you
can do is just to to move as far away
from the coast as possible.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
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Speaker 5 (20:15):
Because a lot of these threats in the book that
I wrote about were all like sort of water based threats,
and I'm like, unless you like live in Florida or
La or something or along the coast, you're fine. But
then you get inland. And then I said, then you
find yourself in Nebraska, and I mean, I don't know,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
So so I the next question that came in was
if Andrew is going to create his own sci fi monster,
what kind of monster would he create?

Speaker 4 (20:48):
Well, I think that what kind of monster I would create.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
I had an idea for one that was not used
in the book, and it was called a wolf blizzard,
which was a pun on the CNN anchor Wolf Blitzer,
and it was just a blizzard of wolves. And that
actually got rejected for the book because they were like,
it's it's the pun is too far. Like it's They're like,

(21:18):
there's like an there's like a line that we would
never go past, and you just passed it.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
And I was like, oh my god, I.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
Can't believe I found the line where you will not cross.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
So but I would still like to to. I was like,
I was like I'm going to go write this script.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
So for all the aspiring writers listening to this, Andrew
has just shown you the line in the sand that
sci Fi channel will not cross.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yes, So Andrew, I wanted to ask right now, you know,
what are your future plans on publishing. I know there's
a project that's very hush hush, but is there any
other projects you work you one, or anything else you
could tell us about right now?

Speaker 5 (22:03):
Yeah, I'm also working on a on a young adult
novel that That's something I've been working on for a while.
I've got a few things that are like in the pipeline,
but it's just like you get a fine, you know,
find the right sort of place for them at a
publisher or either self publish it or whatever, and and

(22:25):
just got to wait for sort of the stars to
align and until that happens, like I don't have any
good news to announce. It's kind of boring, Like it's
something my mom calls me all the time and says, oh,
when's your next book coming out?

Speaker 4 (22:37):
And I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
It'll be the first one to know, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
So, Andrew, I wanted to ask you to you know
your your book Sharknado was on sale. Is it still
on sale right now? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
As of today it is for us for like a
dollar in a ninety book. I don't know how long
the sale is going to last.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
So okay, so when this is up, I'm, you know,
hopefully I will link to Andrew's book in the show notes.
Hopefully it'll If it's not on sale, it's still a
relatively goodbye. And I guarantee you it's it is. You know,
it's entertaining, it's hilarious, and look at me. I've learned
a lot about the Sci Fi Channel movies because I'm
I you know, I've learn about Ghost Shark today.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Yeah, it's it's a value at any price, you know.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
And the book is like forty megabytes because it has
a bunch of drawings in it, so you know, that's
about twenty times the size of another final download for
a regular pros book.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
So I mean, you know, that's what a deal.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
Right, Yeah, Because when I was flipping through it, I
went to obviously, I went to the Shark Nado chapter
and greeting me is a you know, a black and
white hand drawn picture of of a shark Nado right,
right right.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
I mean, and the book's got recipes, you know, excerpts
from classic literature that I have completely trashed, such as
Mobi Dick.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
So yeah, it's got a lot of stuff in there.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
It's got something for everybody. So, you know, Andrew, in closing,
you know, is there anything that we didn't talk about
today that you wanted to mention or any any you know,
closing thoughts or final thoughts.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
No, my mind is, My mind is completely blank. I
do it like this meditation class right now. So I'm
learning to sort of wipe away all thoughts in my mind.
You know, normally I would have one hundred things to
talk about right now, but right now it's just.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Like it's I'm I'm learning to zie out and go blank.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
All right, Andrew, where do you'll find you out online?

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (24:46):
My goodness? Anywhere?

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Twitter, Facebook, Google. You know, al someone has to do
is Google my name Andrew Schaeffer s H A F
F E R. As long as they spell it right,
they can by me, you know, which is you know,
kind of disturbing.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
But I'm all over the place, and and I'll make
sure to uh to link to all that in the
show notes too. I'll link to your website and your Twitter.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
Uh, you don't. You don't have to just make them
work for it.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Work for it, Okay. I will not link to Andrew's
uh info in the show notes, so you will have
to work for it.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
Then.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yes, it will be the first time, but I will
not I promise you I will not link to that
in the show notes. Andrew Wannessy, thank you very much
for coming on again. Everyone. It's how to Survive a
shark Nado and other unnatural Disasters. That it's I will
link to the I will link to this and the
show notes, but it's right to the kindle version. And uh,
is there a physical version of this book?

Speaker 5 (25:46):
To Andrew, there is there is because you know, once
once a short nado or some other type of disaster,
it hits and you need the physical version, you know,
and you can be able to charge your phone or whatnot.
So you know, I always advise people to get the
e book and the physical version and it just to
be on the safe side.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
See, that's why you're the publisher, because that's that that
is forethought, my friend. Yes, yes, exactly, yeah, you won't
have that's right, so you know, the physical the ebook,
I have you know. If it does the power goes out,
I won't be able to find it, so I'll have
to look into the physical version now too.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, so Andrew, I want to say thank you so
much for coming on. Everyone in the book is How
to Survivors Shark Nato. Andrew, thanks again for coming on,
and again feel free to you know, drop me an
email anytime and I love to have you back sometime.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah. Great chat with you.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Oh you too, my friend, take care of everyone.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I want to thank Dave so much for doing such
a great job on this episode. If you want to
get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
head over to the show notes at Bulletproof Screenwriting dot
tv for it slash for twenty one. Thank you so
much for listening to guys. As always, keep on writing
no matter what. I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Thanks for listening to the Bulletproof Screenwriting podcast full of
group screenwriting dot tv.

Speaker 5 (27:07):
Mm hmm

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