March 20, 2025 • 10 mins
Sapna Pieroux shares tips for women restarting business after a cancer break. Founder of InnnerVisions ID Brand Consultancy, Amazon Author of "Let´s Get Visible", Breast Cancer Awareness Advocate. https://innervisions-id.com
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm Tom Ray. I'm promoting successful business experts connecting people
throughout the world from my podcast studio in Brazil. Joining
us today from London, England. Sapnapiro, founder of Inner Vision's
ID brand consultancy, author of Let's Get Visible, and an
advocate for breast cancer awareness. So Sapna, please give us
(00:29):
two top tips for women restarting business or work after
a cancer.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Break Right, well, thank you first, Tom for having me
well launched and straight into it, aren't we at two
top tips for women launching or relaunching their businesses after cancer.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Was take your time and be kind to yourself. That's
all wanted. I think I came back into my business
this kind of all gun blathing after I got the
all clear and I realized I just didn't have the
same energy levels anymore. I've been through something that was
quite traumatic as my as my doctor said, and I
(01:15):
stupidly thought that I could just kind of pick up
where I left off, and that wasn't I needed to
be kinder to myself and take things at a gentler pace,
because recovery actually is not just about the body.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's also about the mind.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's true. Sometimes it's more about the mind than the body.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, And so that's that's my main tip.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think that is my main tip. I'm not sure
if I have to.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it's just really accept where you are and
be gentle with yourself, kind with yourself, and.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Take things one step at a time.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Maybe is the other tip that I would say is,
you know, pace yourself because it's a marathon, not a sprint, right,
And I think that was that was the other thing
for me. I came back thinking, Wow, life is so precious.
I don't want to waste a moment of it and
try to do all things and then just got exhausted.
(02:15):
So again it's about pacing yourself. And maybe that's a
note to myself to do that more as well.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Still, well, I.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Hear what you're saying, but I would say the two
things could be be kind to yourself, would be kind
to your body, and be kind to your mind and
realize that they're two separate things but they work together.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, Yeah, Which did you feel better?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Which took you longer to to get get it back together?
Was it the body? Was it the mind? How did
you separate that?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think I'm I was very physically fit before I
got breast cancers. So the body you recovery. I made
sure I was at peak physical fitness before I went
into my surgery, and my doctors said that that was
great because I was on my my recovery. My physical
recovery was probably much quicker than my mental recovery because
(03:06):
I thought my body had healed fast and I was
mobile and gained my strength back relatively quickly. I mean
by relatively quickly, I still mean like six months, right,
it was six months.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It takes time.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's not fast, no, but relatively quickly because I was
doing a lot of weight training and work with the
nutritionists and made sure that I was in peak other help.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That felt like the physical thing I could see improving
day by day. I think the mental thing has been
that I tried to push it aside and cut of
well that's been done.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
With and get on with it now, let's just move forward.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But actually, what I've realized is there was probably still
a lot of processing to do, which I'm still doing
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And also that's what you're doing as an advocate and
a speaker about the breast cancer right, not only raise
awareness you're also raising donations for different organizations. You're still
in h You're still thinking about it. It's not something
you forget, right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm not actively raising donations for it right now. I
still do talk about cancer research because I was already
supporting some other charities before I got the illness. I
periodically do raise money for cancer research, but the last
time was literally from my hospital bed after my mastectomy.
(04:33):
I raised money there because I've been talking about it
and blogging about it or kind of writing about it
on my Facebook and on my LinkedIn, and I raised awareness.
I mean I even had some lady dedicate her book
to me. I know, I touched people's lives all over
the world. Raised raise thousands for cancer research. So it's
(04:54):
something that I give personally to cancer research every month.
But it's not something that I do all the time.
But I do talk about it. Were a chance because
awareness is what saved my life.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And to that point, But for women in business who
have a business or have or working in a company
before they discover they have cancer. So this rebound goes
back to what you said initially, be kind to yourself,
be kind to yourself before you're kind to your business.
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, yes, although I'm aware of the you know, for
a lot of people. When I came back into my
business and then I couldn't cope because I wasn't sleeping
while I was onto moxafen. It was messing with my hormone.
It was messing with my sleep patterns. I had no energy.
And the doctor sort of said to me, take some
time off work. You need to take more time off work.
And I said, well, I've already had six months off work,
(05:49):
and you went, that wasn't six months of work, that
was six months dealing with answer. Now you need to
take time to heal. And that's a luxury really for
a lot of people. They can't afford to take all
that time out right from their work. So what I
did do was I just took my foot off the gas.
I stopped promoting my business. I stopped being as visible,
(06:13):
you know, ironically, for the author of Let's Get Visible,
I stopped being as visible because I just didn't have
the bandwidth to be able to do that. And I
took work that came in through the door. If like
people came came to me, you're still working. I was like, yes,
I am still working, but I again, I just took
it at a slower pace whilst I went through the
(06:33):
process of healing, took up gardening, took up singing, you know,
started doing things that were good for my soul as
well as and balance that with work. I know it's
not always possible to just completely stop work, which my
surgeon had said, and that's fine if you're in a
paid job, but if you's an entrepreneur, that's really difficult.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Not to your book or is the book Let's Get Visible?
Was that part of your rebound?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No? No, the book.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The book came before the cancer journey, So that came
out in twenty twenty, and it's a book about building brand.
It was ironically, you know, it came out in twenty twenty,
just in January, and I was out there telling everybody
to get visible, and then March Lockdown came and we
all became invisible because we're all sat at home.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But well that fits. How can you be invisibly visible?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, well exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So my next message to the world was, well, you know,
we're saying that we need to get visible, but now,
right now, everybody is invisible. Jeff Bezelsa's your brand is
what people say about you when you're in the room.
But right now, nobody's in the room, So how do
you know your brand is what's going to be selling
your business for.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You when you can't be in the room.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And so actually I had a really good couple of
years with your business in lockdown because everybody was like, oh, well,
I might as well get my business rebranders, because you know,
I need to get more visible online. Everything moved digitally,
So those were a couple of boom years. But then
I started losing focus, thinking there's something going wrong, there's
something wrong here, and I think it was the start
of the very menopause. And then it's twenty twenty two
(08:07):
when I was diagnosed with cancer. So that's when I
stopped marketing the business because I had bigger fish to fry,
and you know, I've got two children, so I had
to manage their mindset as well as my own mindset.
And I felt I was almost supporting my husband and
my children through although they were very supportive of me.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I kind of stop them.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
From panicking and worrying that mummy was going to die
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Very good, but we don't want that to happen. We
do want you to be right, We want you to
be more visible. So how can ours find you?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, well mainly I mainly play on LinkedIn, so you
can find me satan a Peru on LinkedIn. You can
find my book Let's Get Visible on Amazon, and you
can find my website is www dot inn a visions
like the Stevie Wonder album, I d so hyphenid dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Very good, well, thanks for sharing your story and success.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Thank you very much for having me come okay, and
for our listeners.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It is Sapnapuro and its first name is s A
p n A. The last name p I e r
o u X p I E r o u X.
You'll find her on LinkedIn, find her at your site
inter Visions, hypheni d dot com, and the book Let's
Get Visible on Amazon. Cafe Networking is Bractos by Focus
(09:41):
at my market intelligence and agricultural market research specialist in Brazil.
More information at f O c U s m I
dot com. Talk to Tom, Talk to the World. Thanks
for listening till the next time here at Cafe and
Networking podcast
I'm Tom Ray. I'm promoting successful business experts connecting people
throughout the world from my podcast studio in Brazil. Joining
us today from London, England. Sapnapiro, founder of Inner Vision's
ID brand consultancy, author of Let's Get Visible, and an
advocate for breast cancer awareness. So Sapna, please give us
(00:29):
two top tips for women restarting business or work after
a cancer.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Break Right, well, thank you first, Tom for having me
well launched and straight into it, aren't we at two
top tips for women launching or relaunching their businesses after cancer.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Number one.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Was take your time and be kind to yourself. That's
all wanted. I think I came back into my business
this kind of all gun blathing after I got the
all clear and I realized I just didn't have the
same energy levels anymore. I've been through something that was
quite traumatic as my as my doctor said, and I
(01:15):
stupidly thought that I could just kind of pick up
where I left off, and that wasn't I needed to
be kinder to myself and take things at a gentler pace,
because recovery actually is not just about the body.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
It's also about the mind.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
That's true. Sometimes it's more about the mind than the body.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, And so that's that's my main tip.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I think that is my main tip. I'm not sure
if I have to.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I think it's just really accept where you are and
be gentle with yourself, kind with yourself, and.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Take things one step at a time.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Maybe is the other tip that I would say is,
you know, pace yourself because it's a marathon, not a sprint, right,
And I think that was that was the other thing
for me. I came back thinking, Wow, life is so precious.
I don't want to waste a moment of it and
try to do all things and then just got exhausted.
(02:15):
So again it's about pacing yourself. And maybe that's a
note to myself to do that more as well.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Still, well, I.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Hear what you're saying, but I would say the two
things could be be kind to yourself, would be kind
to your body, and be kind to your mind and
realize that they're two separate things but they work together.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, Yeah, Which did you feel better?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Which took you longer to to get get it back together?
Was it the body? Was it the mind? How did
you separate that?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I think I'm I was very physically fit before I
got breast cancers. So the body you recovery. I made
sure I was at peak physical fitness before I went
into my surgery, and my doctors said that that was
great because I was on my my recovery. My physical
recovery was probably much quicker than my mental recovery because
(03:06):
I thought my body had healed fast and I was
mobile and gained my strength back relatively quickly. I mean
by relatively quickly, I still mean like six months, right,
it was six months.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
It takes time.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's not fast, no, but relatively quickly because I was
doing a lot of weight training and work with the
nutritionists and made sure that I was in peak other help.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That felt like the physical thing I could see improving
day by day. I think the mental thing has been
that I tried to push it aside and cut of
well that's been done.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
With and get on with it now, let's just move forward.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
But actually, what I've realized is there was probably still
a lot of processing to do, which I'm still doing
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
And also that's what you're doing as an advocate and
a speaker about the breast cancer right, not only raise
awareness you're also raising donations for different organizations. You're still
in h You're still thinking about it. It's not something
you forget, right Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I'm not actively raising donations for it right now. I
still do talk about cancer research because I was already
supporting some other charities before I got the illness. I
periodically do raise money for cancer research, but the last
time was literally from my hospital bed after my mastectomy.
(04:33):
I raised money there because I've been talking about it
and blogging about it or kind of writing about it
on my Facebook and on my LinkedIn, and I raised awareness.
I mean I even had some lady dedicate her book
to me. I know, I touched people's lives all over
the world. Raised raise thousands for cancer research. So it's
(04:54):
something that I give personally to cancer research every month.
But it's not something that I do all the time.
But I do talk about it. Were a chance because
awareness is what saved my life.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And to that point, But for women in business who
have a business or have or working in a company
before they discover they have cancer. So this rebound goes
back to what you said initially, be kind to yourself,
be kind to yourself before you're kind to your business.
Does that sound right?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, yes, although I'm aware of the you know, for
a lot of people. When I came back into my
business and then I couldn't cope because I wasn't sleeping
while I was onto moxafen. It was messing with my hormone.
It was messing with my sleep patterns. I had no energy.
And the doctor sort of said to me, take some
time off work. You need to take more time off work.
And I said, well, I've already had six months off work,
(05:49):
and you went, that wasn't six months of work, that
was six months dealing with answer. Now you need to
take time to heal. And that's a luxury really for
a lot of people. They can't afford to take all
that time out right from their work. So what I
did do was I just took my foot off the gas.
I stopped promoting my business. I stopped being as visible,
(06:13):
you know, ironically, for the author of Let's Get Visible,
I stopped being as visible because I just didn't have
the bandwidth to be able to do that. And I
took work that came in through the door. If like
people came came to me, you're still working. I was like, yes,
I am still working, but I again, I just took
it at a slower pace whilst I went through the
(06:33):
process of healing, took up gardening, took up singing, you know,
started doing things that were good for my soul as
well as and balance that with work. I know it's
not always possible to just completely stop work, which my
surgeon had said, and that's fine if you're in a
paid job, but if you's an entrepreneur, that's really difficult.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Not to your book or is the book Let's Get Visible?
Was that part of your rebound?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
No? No, the book.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
The book came before the cancer journey, So that came
out in twenty twenty, and it's a book about building brand.
It was ironically, you know, it came out in twenty twenty,
just in January, and I was out there telling everybody
to get visible, and then March Lockdown came and we
all became invisible because we're all sat at home.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
But well that fits. How can you be invisibly visible?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, well exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
So my next message to the world was, well, you know,
we're saying that we need to get visible, but now,
right now, everybody is invisible. Jeff Bezelsa's your brand is
what people say about you when you're in the room.
But right now, nobody's in the room, So how do
you know your brand is what's going to be selling
your business for.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
You when you can't be in the room.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And so actually I had a really good couple of
years with your business in lockdown because everybody was like, oh, well,
I might as well get my business rebranders, because you know,
I need to get more visible online. Everything moved digitally,
So those were a couple of boom years. But then
I started losing focus, thinking there's something going wrong, there's
something wrong here, and I think it was the start
of the very menopause. And then it's twenty twenty two
(08:07):
when I was diagnosed with cancer. So that's when I
stopped marketing the business because I had bigger fish to fry,
and you know, I've got two children, so I had
to manage their mindset as well as my own mindset.
And I felt I was almost supporting my husband and
my children through although they were very supportive of me.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I kind of stop them.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
From panicking and worrying that mummy was going to die
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Very good, but we don't want that to happen. We
do want you to be right, We want you to
be more visible. So how can ours find you?
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, well mainly I mainly play on LinkedIn, so you
can find me satan a Peru on LinkedIn. You can
find my book Let's Get Visible on Amazon, and you
can find my website is www dot inn a visions
like the Stevie Wonder album, I d so hyphenid dot com.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Very good, well, thanks for sharing your story and success.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Thank you very much for having me come okay, and
for our listeners.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
It is Sapnapuro and its first name is s A
p n A. The last name p I e r
o u X p I E r o u X.
You'll find her on LinkedIn, find her at your site
inter Visions, hypheni d dot com, and the book Let's
Get Visible on Amazon. Cafe Networking is Bractos by Focus
(09:41):
at my market intelligence and agricultural market research specialist in Brazil.
More information at f O c U s m I
dot com. Talk to Tom, Talk to the World. Thanks
for listening till the next time here at Cafe and
Networking podcast
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