October 3, 2025 • 54 mins
I’m joined by Liz Clifton, Calm Intuitive Mentor, to talk about: Her powerful 3 Seconds to Calm practice, the inspiring take34u Movement, how she’s helped rescue animals & their new pet parents, and what Calm Intuitive Mentorship is all about. Come learn how to find calm, connect, and grow together with your animal companions!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Good evening everybody, and welcome to calling our creatures. As
you guys know, I am your host Lori, and tonight
we have a really cool podcast for you guys. I
have Liz Clifton on with me, and she gosh, does
so many things I don't even know where to start.
(00:25):
She does helps with meditation, she works with reiki, she
helps with different calming techniques for people and animals bull
so she just kind of does a little bit of
everything to help people and animals out. But she's been
kind enough to join me tonight and is going to
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impart some of her wisdom to us, more so when
it comes to the animal aspect, since this is our
animal podcast. But I'm excited to talk with her tonight
and learn a few more things about calming techniques and
things like that that she can tell us about. So, Liz,
thank you so much for joining us on the podcast tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh, thank you so much for helping me.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm so glad that you were able to spare a
little bit of time tonight and come on and hopefully
share some things with us about what all it is
that you do. I think that people will really be
excited to learn more about your Uh, we're going to
talk about your organization and stuff, but I think they'll
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be happy to learn more about those kinds of things
and for calming things and stuff like that. So why
don't you go ahead, though, and why don't we just
start out and have you share a little bit more
about your you know, your own personal journey. What first
kind of drew you to the meditation and the calming
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and all of that kind of stuff, and what kind
of drew you to the animal aspect of it, and
how they became part of your calm mentorship work.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Oh, thank you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So with animals, I've always had that real close affinity
with them, and from when I was a tiny, tiny kid,
I can remember if my parents ever let me pick
where we were going to go for a day, it
would be to see the aminals, to see that amenos
and you know, it's okay, right, And that has stayed
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with me, you know, throughout my entire life's journey. Animals
have always been a really big significant part of my
daily life of what calms me and what has really given.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Me that purpose, you know, to support.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Them to have their voices heard. I remember again as
a kid, you know, really wanting to get involved in
like save the tigers and save the whales and save
the polar bears.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Those were the big three.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That I remember when I was really little, and with
the calming, it's something I think I've always been like
in essence and like my deepest inner self was a
very calm person and quite sort of happy and smiley.
So I can remember being a very very small kid,
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like you know, just going around like the store and
just chatting to anyone smiling. At that point, I had
like no hair, actually, very similar to now because I've
just shaved you know, I've shaved it completely off. Now.
I was grade one for a while and now it's
you know, completely gone, so complete buzz can't now. So
very similar to how I would have been going around
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as a kid, just chatting and helping to calm people
just by making them smile, by making them laugh, by
giving them that little bit of daily joy, which really
is another part, you know, of the main work that
I do now. So if it's not sharing animal reiki
with people and their animals, or supporting people to learn
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and train in animal reiki, then it's the person's side,
and it's that calmness within yourself, that daily joy, that
daily inner peace, and then noticing that actually, as you
take care of yourself best and you come everyone around
you of all different species, begins to calm as well,
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because they very often are mirroring our own energies.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah. Well, and I've worked with dogs, you know, a
lot of my adult life, between animal control and doing
dog training and stuff like that, so so we know that,
you know, one of the things, especially as a dog trainer,
we you know, try to let people know. You know,
your dog can feel how you're feeling, especially through the leash,
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you telegraph it to them. So that is so totally
true about that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And the other thing that our animals like, especially our
dogs or if people have cats as well, and also
birds they've noticed and horses.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So actually, the more I go, the wall SPECIs I
add in.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But they really have a very strong like in the
moment existence. So they're just moving moment to moment, and
actually by noticing how they are in that present moment,
it gives us a chance to reflect and notice how.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We are in that moment.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The more we're able to be present in exactly each
second like space of time, the easier it is to
choose to be calm because rather than worrying about whatever's
happened in the past, rather than worrying about whatever's going
to happen and in the future, we're meeting them in
that present moment, and that all by itself can be
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really super calming.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yep, most definitely, I totally agree with that. So what
what in your personal journey kind of led you to
where you're at right now in your you know, for
your calming and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, So for me, it was I was in a
very dysfunctional, like fifteen year relationship, and I was working
at the time three jobs. Night shift in a small store,
another night shift in another store, and then a day
shift at the local government.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it's in all these three jobs.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And there was one moment when I was working the
late night shift and at the time I was then
going home like one am, two am, and I was
breastfeeding mar then like nearly two year old daughter to sleep,
so she'd stay up until I was that and the
breast better to sleep. And so I said, oh, why
are you still feeding her? And I went, oh, my goodness,
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Actually I've got a choice. I could choose because during
the day she was drinking water, she was eating you know,
proper food, so she didn't really need the milk. It
was just that habit, that comforting, that routine. So that
night when I went home, I gave her water from
a little sleepy cup and she fell asleep beautifully. And
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that then men, either her sister or my ex husband,
they could you know, give her that drink soothe her
to sleep, so she didn't have.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
To wait till twenty am for me anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And that was then the beginning of a big, kind
of ongoing avalanche of choice, which very quickly led to
me stepping out of that relationship and like moving. So
I was living in England with them, I moved to
Wales and you know, went through that whole big process.
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And then as I was beginning to get settled, we
rescued our first Romanian street dog, and as I began
to rehabilitate her because she was so extremely fearful of people.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was also rehabilitating myself.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And together we were building our trust in ourselves and
then in each other and then you know, people beyond
and also that deep inner calm, that self confidence as well.
And as we were doing that there was a moment
where I spent a huge amount of time just sat
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silently with her, you know, at a distance for the beginning,
like a very you know, a good while giving her
all her choices to move into my space or not.
And it was in one of those moments where I
was just I didn't be sharing some animal reiki and
I had such a deep connection with her, And in
that moment, I knew that what I next got to
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do was support other people and animals to have that
same experience, to have that deep in a piece, to
reconnect with themselves, to get that calm confidence, and to
then build up that connected communication so that they could
really be themselves whenever they chose to be freely and
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with love.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Very nice, and it seems to be working well, I guess, huh.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
We now have our second Romanian rescue dog and he's
like a little soul dog for me. He came to
me in a dream and then I'm searching everywhere for
this tidy, little golden dog and yeah, amazing. He's really
enjoying with like the animal reiki training, the little sort
of animal reiki shares that I do with people so yeah,
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they love the very chilled out doggoes now.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I'm sure, and I'm sure the rescue dogs are just
eating it up, you know, getting all of that good
energy and reiki and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So yeah, it's so luscious.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And in fact, that's one of the parts that I
love the most about my work is if I'm doing
a training with an animal wiki practitioner or you know,
a dog communication anything like that, then I get to
go into the rescues and support the animals there and
like that is that's bliss for me.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So why don't you go ahead for listeners that are
kind of new to this idea, what exactly is calm
intuitive menbership and how does it applied to our relationships
with animals?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah? Of course. So for me, calm.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Intuitive mentorship is being able to really connect deeply to
your innermo self. So it's being able to sit calmly
with yourself. Now, that in itself is a process. So
when I first began all of this personal development work,
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what I realized is that over the years, and at
that point it was like forty years or so, I'd
got all of these old emotions stacked up so like
old anger, old fear, old her, old guilt, old anxiety,
old sadness and sorrow, and they'd all stacked up over
my life.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And I realized I was carrying them, you.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Know, as if I had them in a big backpack,
and that was heavy. That was a really heavy, the
emotional load of baggage that I was carrying with me everywhere.
So as I slowly began to do some work and
then found some really nice, gentle but quick ways to
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release it and let it go, I realized that I
was then like physically standing taller and feeling so much
lighter and calmer and brighter. And it was as if
for me, like this fog kind of cleared and I
could begin to see everything around me more clearly. Everything
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like the flowers, seemed brighter. I could notice, you know,
the wonderful things that my friends, my family, my kids,
that they were doing.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I could really see them through.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Like a greater like love perspective. And I think the
biggest thing for me, and that piece of work which
I now support other people with, is realizing that to
really deeply love anyone else of any species, you get
to love yourself first. And no one had ever told
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me that I very much grew up thinking serve others first,
and your cop you know, and that's what I was doing,
and that's what led me to like three different burnouts,
and that really dysfunctual relationship.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And as I gently.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Began to realize that actually looking after myself, like putting
my oxygen mask on first, then I could love everyone
else so much more because it was purer, it was clearer.
And from those spaces where I'd released all of those old,
like negative emotions that I've been carrying with me, I
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was then able to be clear with myself to really
communicate with myself.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So you know, on a daily basis, I'd.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Check in how am I feeling, and then what do
I need? You know, if there was any negativity or
anything I was stressed or worried about, how could I
support myself? And that gives you that clarity then, and
within that self communication that connection that for me is
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where that intuitive part is. So it's being able to
hear yourself, to speak to yourself and trust what you're
saying back because you know it's not the old emotions
or old habits that have got in the way because
you've cleared those down and you know it's you, and
then you've got that, you have by that point self awareness,
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you've got self acceptance, self acknowledgement, and then you're able
to give yourself that self forgiveness and then slowly step
into that self care and that self love, and from there,
when you can be clear and honest with yourself, you
can actually really begin to love yourself exactly as you
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are in every moment and accept that our emotions will
ebb and flow, they'll come and.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Go because life keeps going.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So even when we've cleared those historical things, you know
new emotions will come up, but you then are equipped
to support yourself with them because rather than it being
like the way of forty your tears worth of fear
or anger or stress or anxiety or sorrow, it's just
in that moment. So then you can either like breathe
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through it. You can have some music to listen to
to help move you through it, but it's easier then
to process and choose to release things and choose to
move into different, more supportive emotions for you in that moment,
and from that space and then able to connect with
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yourself better, with everyone else better, and especially.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
With your dogs.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It makes such a huge difference for people with those
relationships as you're lovingly connecting with yourself, the extra layers
of connection and relationship and support with each other and
that unconditional love you can have with your animals is amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yep, yep, most definitely I could understand. I mean, if
I mean and because the dog I mean has got
to be feeling. If you're feeling you know, good about
yourself and about your you know, things going on and stuff,
your dog's going to feel that because you're gonna again
kind of you know, telegraph it to them and stuff.
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So and dogs are really pretty intuitive. So most definitely
can see how that would you know, be gratifying for both.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, and I think you know, if you wake up
and you're kind of like, oh what, you know, what's
got into my beautiful dog today? Take a moment and
notice how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I would say ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Nine percent of the time it's something that you're carrying.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's not them at all.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
You sort yourself out, you like, release whatever you've got
to release.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You make sure.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You're hydrated, You schedule in some extra rest for later
that day, and then you know to suddenly they're absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yep, yeah, yeah, I can tell with mine when I'm
not feeling well, she acts differently. So so another thing
you talk about is three seconds to calm. So how
can that simple practice help someone when they're working with,
say a nervous rescue dog or a stressed out care
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or you know, maybe even their own emotional responses around animals.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I love that question, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, so three seconds to come is so beautiful because
it's so quick and simple to do, like everyone can
make time for that in their day. So one of
my favorite ways to calm you, which will then also
reflect and help calm whichever beautiful species you have in
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your space, is one to two breathing practice. So you'd
breathe in for the count of one and breathe out
for the count of two. And to help you how
I often do it as I would say to myself
one green forest tree as I breathe in, and then
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two green forest trees, three green forest trees as I
breathe out. And how that works is that the longer
outbreadth is going to naturally support your rest and relaxation
state through your parasympathetic nervous system, so it's naturally going
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to support you to do that, as you're saying, if
you choose to do so. The green forest tree, the
colors green and blue are often relaxing and calming for people.
And then the forest tree again is drawing on that
green nature, which is naturally often relaxing and.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Calming for people.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So you're putting in all these different senses. And as
you're thinking that green forest tree, you might be hearing
some birds that are up in that tree. You might
be hearing a river that is washing alongside those trees.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's whatever supports you to feel calm.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It can all be with in that tiny three second practice.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And as you're doing that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Your energy is naturally going to be calming, relaxing. Any
old stress is going to start to dissipate and release,
and so that's going to support anybody around you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Now with animals.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Also, because they are so connected with their energy, the
moment that your energy starts to calm then naturally going
to start to mirror it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And again with the breathing, if.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You're slowing down that natural breathing rate with the longer exhale,
you're also slightly throwing down your heart rate just a little,
and that's equally going to help them to calm. And
it works beautifully as well with babies, with kittens, with puppies,
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because they naturally would be relaxing, you know, if they're
by their mum, they'd natually be relaxing with that heartbeat
and with that breathing rate. So again, just that one
simple three second exercise can pull in all those different things.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You were talking about the green forest trees, and I
was thinking, man, I really want to be there, Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Exactly, because and again you know, it's that visualization. So if,
for example, a different space would be your favorite calming space,
use a color that's associated and a simple word that
takes you into that space. So it's just drawing on
whichever of your senses is strongest.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So it might be their scent.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really supports you to get into that space, So then
just say the word of that scent dead place it
in there. So have a bit of an experiment and
feel free to share what you come up with, because
I love like collating what different people find supportive.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Most definitely well, as we mentioned, of course, animals are intuitive,
So in your experience, how do they respond to the
reiki the meditation or the calm leadership practices.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We love with.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Love, and for me, the most beautiful thing of offering
animals like to share your energy, to share the calmness,
to share the meditative space, the intuitive space with you
is you're giving them a choice. And like choice and voice,
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these are like two of my big mission things to support,
especially animals, because in so many spaces they have no
choice and they're not you know, their voices don't listen
to So it's having that time and space to pause
and allow them to connect with you if they choose
to do so. So if I'm sharing animal reiki, I'd
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move into space and I'd offer the animal raking. And
then it's their choice if they're going to accept the
energy in that moment, if they want to accept it
but have it for later, or if they choose not
to accept it at all, because just like people, if
they're in a space where they're grieving, where there's been
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a big change, a big shift in their life, or
they're extremely anxious or fearful, they may not want that
energy to help release some process for them in that moment.
They may be happy to take their energy and allow
it to work at a later time perhaps and you're
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not there, or in those cases if they're very fearful
or anxious, I'd always suggest you in a distant reiki
share anyway, so that you're not actually having to come
into their space, and with the reiki, with the animal communications,
so that come meditation that like intuitive space and like
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telepathic because you were describing it before, you don't actually
need to be in the physical space with them anyway,
so you can easily share that energy with them wherever
you are.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I've shared it with people like.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So many hundreds of thousands of like miles kilometers away,
and you could see it works just the same as
if I were there, you know, just sat next to them.
So it's offering the choice of connection and then just noticing.
So for me, the more that I do that connective
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work with animals and with people as well, the more
I will offer and I will hear a response or
I may feel a response in my body sometimes like
it could be a smell, it could be a sound,
it could.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Be an image, and it's through.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
All my different senses and I then know that I'm
in that connective space with them.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
So yeah, it's amazing. Really when I think about it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, So then would you say that that is how
that human animal connection kind of works then from what
you were just describing.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, so I think it's it's obviously in that present moment,
and for every individual and animal in every moment, it's
going to vary. For me, it can be through any
of my different senses. For some people it will be
like a physical connection. For others, they'll hear some words,
maybe they'll see a color, or they'll feel like a
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heat or a coolness. The animal could move away from you,
could move towards you. There are so many different ways
that they can connect and communicate with us that it
all comes down to that individual animal in the moment
and then that individual human animal in the moment as well.
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And I think just like our emotions and our behaviors
will change and you know, kind of develop as we
move through our own personal journeys and our own calm
spaces and maybe not so calm spaces, I think it's
the same for each individual animal as well. So then
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when you're putting any two individuals together, it can come
through any of your sensory spaces. If you work with
like auras and things, then it could be that you're
connecting through there. It could even be connection through like
you know, dreams or day dreams, like really, any way
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that energy can move or flow, there can be a connection.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
There for you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So then you could basically use communication to better understand
what our pets may be trying to tell us.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Then one and I.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Think even by just spending a few moments silently with
your beautiful animal or animals and just start to notice,
and you could just you could silently ask them a
question and you can ask for a response if you
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choose to do so. So it could even be like
with animal communication at the very beginning, I'd say, just
ask a question, and if it comes to your mind
to ask for a sign, just ask for that sign.
You know, so it can be can you hear me,
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but look at me? If you can hear me, move
a poor if you can hear me, like anything that
feels good for you in that moment, trust yourself, trust
your intuitive flow, your intuitive energy, and then trust your
beautiful animal companion. And I think they pick up on
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so much that is unsaid from us anyway, and we
know that you know, as you were speaking about your energy,
your emotions, your feelings, your attention. Any stress that passes
physically down the leash, So just imagine how much of
your other energy they're picking up and noticing anyway, Right,
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you know, you said if you're feeling oh, if you're
feeling a bit ill, they will be behaving differently. They often,
you know, are kind of prompting us and saying, hey,
you need to take care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You need to stop, you know, if you're.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
About to leave to go somewhere, but maybe you've forgotten
something and they're kind of getting in the way, Like
take them oment because there's usually a purpose there and
it might be that they're reminding you of something.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah. So you know, there's probably quite a few of
our listeners out there that have pets that have been
through some kind of trauma, you know, coming from a
shelter or rescue, And what kind of advice would you
give them for helping to create a calmer, safer environment
for their new pets.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So the first thing is to find out as much
as you can about what they've already gone through. Now,
I do realize that many rescue animals there is little
to know history, so there may not be very much there.
But if you can know some of their backstory, some
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of what they've already gone through before that they're coming
into your life, then that's brilliant because you can then
begin to understand how they might be feeling. The other
thing is to ask as many questions. And again, some
rescues are amazing, some rescue foster guardians are amazing, and
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then some don't share so much that anything about their
usual behavior prior to you bringing them home or meeting
them again will be really supportive because then you know
what their kind of usual foundation behavior, sleeping, eating, habits,
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anything like that, so that you understand how they are
at the base level. And then taking time, just lots
of time to allow them to choose to always have
a space so that they can choose to come and
interact with you or choose not to, and obviously always
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be safe. So the ultimate thing is taking care of
everybody's safety. And then it's supporting yourself and supporting them
by you being calm. So even if something else is
going on external and that's causing you some stress or
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any kind of negative emotions, then support yourself as best
you can. Seek extra support outside whatever you need. But
if you're moving into that shared space with them, move
in calmly, so avoid that eye contact, all of.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Those lovely body language.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Things that support so you can make yourself small, you
can look away, and especially with fearful or animals that
have gone through different traumas, it's really using that peripheral vision.
So it's what you're using if you're driving, and you
can kind of practice with it by just looking at
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a point ahead and then just moving your hands out
either side if you so you've got your arms extended
and your hands and then just notice if you can
see those two hands, and just practice with that peripheral
vision because it's really supportive as you're beginning to build
up that connection, build up that trust and that calmness,
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that calm confidence and relationship with nervous or fearful animals
is so you can see them, you know that safe,
you know where you are, and it avoids that, you know,
kind of front on eye contact, and just then really
understanding about the species, so looking into how does that
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species any breed specific communication behaviors, So giving yourself like
as much data you know, sharelock home style like understand
as much as you can, but then also recognize that
the beautiful animal that you are sharing your life, sharing
your space, your home with. They're an individual too, So
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whilst you can have all of this information, what you
really get to do is observe and notice and also
trust yourself because underneath all of these different things that
we've learn in society, at heart, we do have that
intuition within ourselves. So if you're thinking, oh, something feels
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a bit off, then trust yourself and always get it checked,
you know, for yourself.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And also for your animals.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So do you trust yourself with those things, and if
their behavior seems a little bit different, then that's definitely
the point where you reach out for your external like
your viginary support, and just make sure that you're looking
after everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Definitely some good advice for those people out there. So
their beings said, can you now share a success story
where your com techniques have maybe helped transform in animals
behavior or even strengthen the bond between that animal and
their person.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, of course, Oh my goodness, there are so many.
So the first one that I love is my own
one is with Zarah. With that our first beautiful Romanian
street rescue dog. So when we brought her home, she'd
been brought over from Romania from a kill shelter. She'd
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been bored, we think just a few weeks before they
took her into that space. She'd got these two tags
in her ears. She'd pulled them out, so one of
her ears is just like tatters. We still can't understand
how it's still hanging on in there, but it is.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's strung.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And she was so fearful of people. So when they
brought her over to the UK, she'd had like about
six months I think, and she had never gone out
of the tiny like inside area in daylight. She was
hiding this little dark space, really really small, and just
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creeping out each night to eat, drink, do her business,
and then creeping back in. So when I actually inquired
about her, within a few minutes, I had this phone
call from this lady at the rescue.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
She was in tears.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
She was like, you're the only person that has shown
any interest. We think it's maybe because she's a black dog.
And I'm like, oh, my goodness, is that like what?
And they were kind of at the end of their
teather and they were considering putting her down. So within
a couple of days, we drove hundreds and hundreds of
(36:21):
miles to go and fetch her and bring her home,
and it took them about an hour to get her
into a quate. She was so fearful. So we then
had this beautiful dog in our car and we're like, wow,
this is a bigger challenge than we realized that this
is going to be an adventure. So within like a
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few months, just lots of time.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And space for her, everything, her choice.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I remember the moment when she very first made physical
contact with me and she just came and nustled her
beautiful little nose against my me and I was just like.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh my goodness. So in that moment, I'm like saying,
be calm.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm calm, I am calm, because I'm like, there's no
way I'm gonna like ruin this moment. She's got this confidence,
she's come up, she's connected with me, so I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Calm, come, come, and I know.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So it's really it's like mind over matter, and it's
where that in a self talk.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It can be so powerful.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
So if you're in one of those moments, you know
you've been so patient, You're given this beautiful creature so
long time and space, and they're choosing to finally make
that connection, Like your heart is just like overflowing. You
want to you know, dance, celebrate, but in those moments, peace, calm, calm, chilled,
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whatever works for you, you just repeat that way to yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And so now when we moved into the house that
we're in at the moment, we built like a private
yard for her, so she's got like beautiful house. We've
converted like a big garage for her, so she's.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Got like she literally has her own house.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
And we then have the yards so that the other
dogs can go out and she can play with them,
and she comes up and she's you know, coming up
to us for like scratches and like it's amazing. The
transformation is just absolutely huge. But when you're beginning those relationships,
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I think for me, the main thing is that you're
bringing that beautiful soul into your family and you're supporting them.
You're giving them that unconditional love. You're giving them this shelter,
you're giving them the safety, You're going to take care
of their every need, that holistic health and well being,
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and it's doing it unconditionally, so it's not expecting anything
in return because Equally, there are some animals and they
can be so fearful them have gone through so much
trauma that they may never build up a big bond
(39:29):
with you. So it's understanding that that also could be
a potential outcome, and just releasing any expectations, like right
from the beginning before you even are reaching out for
a beautiful rescue animal, and just knowing that that's okay.
So whatever level of relationship and connection they choose to
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have with you is okay by you because it can
you know, it.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Really can vary, and if you have like this kind of.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Chocolate box image of like for me in the UK,
it was like Golden Retrievers When I was a kid,
they were in all the kids'.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Books and you were going to throw a ball for this.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Dog and it was going to come back, and you know,
it's going to be your best friend and it was
going to sit with you and all of these things,
and every dog, like every person, is unique an individual,
and especially with rescue and street dogs, we don't always
know what they've already gone through. We don't know what
their parents have gone through, we don't know all of that,
(40:38):
like genetic and epigenetic history. We just we don't know, right,
So it's like allowing them to be themselves. And that's
where again that choice and that voice, they really come
into play for me. So I think for me, if
you're rescuing and this can even be like from breeding
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dogs as well, is just except that it's an individual,
and be as loving and patient with them and yourself
as you can be, and always seek that support like
before you really really need it.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Like seek the support right near.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
The beginning, and that can just make us so much
smoother for you.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yep. So you've kind of set yourself a big mission
with your take thirty four U movement, So you want
to help millions embrace daily calm and with that, how
are animals going to fit into this vision of yours?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
So for me, I think, actually they're right at the
base of it. So when I felt that mission, it
was in that moment of connection with Zarah, our first
Romanian street dog, So she's right there at the center.
My business is called like Family, your Connection, so it's
right at the very.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Center, the epicenter of.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
All the work that I do is for any species.
So the work that I'm doing with people like we're
species too, were also an animal. So it's you know,
and it's I think actually a large part of the
work I do with people, the mentoring, the coaching, the mindset,
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the meditation, it's.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
All about remembering who.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
We actually are and we were not designed to live
as we live now. We were designed to have that
nature connection. So in a way, really it's bringing people
back to those like innate needs and desires and that
nature connection that in the moment being present and from
(42:55):
there the calm, the inner piece all flows through. So animals,
they're kind of already there, So with them, it's supporting
them to have that voice, supporting people to give animals
a voice, supporting people to give animals a choice, So
they kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
They think I would agree with that. I think they
do too, Yeah, most definitely. So in case any of
our listeners might want to try one of your calm
practices with their animals or their pets today, what's one
simple step that they could start with?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, So the first one would be, if there's an
activity that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You both already loved to do together, go do.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
It and be really really present with your beautiful animal
in that moment.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
So if you love, if you guys love walking.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Together, go for a whatt together and really be present
with them. So rather than maybe listening to something else
or catching up on your texts or taking photos, they
really just be with them in that moment. And if
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it's like grooming or just snuggling.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Up together, maybe like here.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
We're moving into autumn, so snaggling up, maybe in front
of the fire, sharing a meal at the same time,
whatever you love to do together, just make a really
big thing of being fully.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Present with them.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
And when you take those moments every day, just being
absolutely release any stresses before you move into that space.
So listen to some calving music for yourself to support
you so that go of anything else and just fully
be present in that moment with them. And if you
(45:05):
can do that every day, even just for a few minutes,
you will notice such a big deepening and strengthening to
your connection and relationship together. And you know, you can
try that with other species in your life too.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know, it's kind of funny, you know that you're
talking about, you know, how to do that be with
your you know, animal's pet and in that moment, and
so one of the things that we talk about with
some of the dark training that we do is it's
called a puppy massage, and it's just you know, telling people,
you know, to sit on the floor with their puppy,
your dog, and they're just you know, petting them and
(45:45):
running their hands over them. Number one, it gets them
used to being touched. And also you can, you know,
if you notice any bumps in there or anything like that,
you can get your dog checked out. But it was
so funny because when we would do it in our
group classes and people would be sitting there on the
floor and they'd be pretty soon you're seeing the dogs
are all nice and calm and relaxed, and they're just
(46:07):
with their eyes half closed, and so yeah, it really
you'd be amazed just sitting on the floor and doing
a little simple puppy massage with your pet or kidney
massage even too, if your cat's going to allow you
to sit on the floor and just make over them
and do that, you know, or you're being pet your bird,
(46:28):
you know, your horrors, whatever you may have. So yeah,
it's just amazing though how much of a calming effect
and relaxing effect I had on the dogs and the classes.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Oh yeah, that's cool. Just I've got that image now.
It's beautiful and I think it's the same with us.
If someone shows you the respect and like the love
of being fully present with you, it's so releasing and relaxing.
You'll find you'll be like your eyes are kind of
(47:01):
start to close. Like we all want to feel safe,
we want to feel love, We want to feel that connection,
and especially our cats, our dogs, many different birds, horses,
you know, cows and you know so many animals. They
just want to feel safe and loved. And when you
(47:24):
share that energy, yeah, we get to naturally start to release.
And that's where that relaxation, that calm, that inner peace,
you know, that's where that all flows in so naturally
and like with ease. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So, Liz, why don't you tell us where people can
learn more about your calm, mentorship services, your group sessions,
and even a little bit more about you.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
So the easiest thing is pop Liz Clifton into your
favorite search engine that may be. And my site is
Liz Clifton, which is l is z C l I
F t O N dot co dot UK.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Super simple, yep.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
And then as we're coming to the end of our
interview here why one of the Yeah, excuse me, I'm
just losing what I'm trying to say here.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
What do you think is the most important lesson that
animals have taught you about calm connection and living fully,
love yourself.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Love yourself.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It's the message that I get from every animal. So
every species that I've connected with, calmly say, just over
the last well just today. So today I've connected with
a seagull at the seaside, a group of different like
crows vuying through the air, some bees, some spiders. Still
(49:08):
not my favorite, but I do have my math just
love that rescue animals, you know, all these different beautiful beings,
love yourself because where you love yourself, it gives you
that space to pause and connect with the love that
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is all around you in all different species. And when
you take those moments to just notice, to love, to
be grateful for whatever species. It is like, we've had
so many butterflies around here recently, and I will send
a little bit of love and gratitude to eat to them.
And every now and then, like more often, as I
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move through, I just hear I love you, you.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Know, just flowing back. So where you're.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Giving that beautiful love, that recognition fly.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Back to you too.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
That's awesome. That's such a good final synopsis for all
of that. That's awesome, what a great sentiment. Well, listen,
we are at the end of the podcast, at the
end of the interview, and I will say too, I
will go ahead and share your site on my Facebook
(50:24):
page that I have as well, so if people want
to go from mind to yours, they can do that
very easily. But I really appreciate you coming on and
talking about all of this tonight and sharing your experiences
and how you got going on this journal and how
you've been able to include the animals in it. I
think that's great and very simple step for people to
(50:47):
be able to do, to start connecting with their own animals.
So hopefully some people will go out and try to
do that.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yes, super simple. I think everything in life gets to
be simple. Ye, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
That's how I like it. It's super simple. So well,
all right, well, thank you again for being on tonight.
I'm just gonna go ahead and announce my next upcoming podcast.
And I know it's kind of late where you're at,
so you're more and welcome to jump off, or if
you prefer to stay on, you can do that too.
But like I said, I'm just gonna announce the next
couple of podcasts.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Thank you so much, such a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
It was great talking with you, Liz. I have a
great one and bye bye. All right, everybody, So I
hope you all enjoyed the discussion with Liz tonight about
her calming, mentorships and intuitiveness and all of that. It
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was great to talk with her about all of that,
and hopefully you guys got some great tips on connecting
with your own animals as well. So I really appreciate
her being in and letting you guys know about some
of that stuff. And if you are interested in learning more,
go check out her website, and again you'll be able
(52:09):
to get to it from my Facebook page here. I'll
be putting that stuff up within a couple of days
after the podcast. All right, So now let's see the
next podcast coming up is gonna be October sixteenth. It's
gonna be Bison Dialogues with doctor Philip Ursul. He has
(52:32):
been researching bison and things like that, and he's gonna
come on and give us all sorts of info about bison,
and for all of those people that think it's a
really great day idea to get out of a vehicle
or even go near a bison or any other wild animal.
Hopefully he'll be able to share some facts about why
(52:57):
that's not such a great idea. I'm not quite sure
what possesses people to do these things. You would think
they would learn better and realize that's not good idea.
But anyway, he'll be on to give us all sorts
of great information about bison and I'm looking forward to that.
And then right before Halloween October thirtieth, I am going
(53:18):
to have doctor Robin Moore on with me. She is
a veterinarian, and we're going to be discussing litter box
issues for our kitty cats. I thought this would be
a great topic to discuss on here because I know that,
you know, sometimes people have issues with their kiddy cats
using their litter boxes. I had many cats, unfortunately, that
(53:42):
would get turned in at the shelter, and I'm sure
many shelters do it. In any workers or animal control
officer's probably know what I'm talking about here. They come
in because their cats are having They turn them in
because their cats are having some litter box issues, whether
they're not using the litter box, they're throwing the litter
all over the place, whatever the case may be. So anyway,
doctor Robin's going to be on with us on October
(54:03):
thirtieth to talk more about litter box issues and hopefully
how you can try to stop the issues that you're
having and give us some tips and ideas of what
you might need to do, you know, if you start
seeing litterbox issues with your kiddi cap So those are
the next couple of coming podcasts. Hopefully you guys will
(54:23):
be able to come on back and listen in to those.
Don't forget them the October sixteenth, Doctor Philip Earthil and
buy some dialogues, and then October thirtieth, Doctor Robin Moore
and talking about litter box issues. So with that being said, everybody,
I hope you all have a great weekend, Stay safe
(54:44):
out there, don't get into any trouble, and come on
back in a couple of weeks and listen in all
right by now, have a great night.
Good evening everybody, and welcome to calling our creatures. As
you guys know, I am your host Lori, and tonight
we have a really cool podcast for you guys. I
have Liz Clifton on with me, and she gosh, does
so many things I don't even know where to start.
(00:25):
She does helps with meditation, she works with reiki, she
helps with different calming techniques for people and animals bull
so she just kind of does a little bit of
everything to help people and animals out. But she's been
kind enough to join me tonight and is going to
(00:48):
impart some of her wisdom to us, more so when
it comes to the animal aspect, since this is our
animal podcast. But I'm excited to talk with her tonight
and learn a few more things about calming techniques and
things like that that she can tell us about. So, Liz,
thank you so much for joining us on the podcast tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh, thank you so much for helping me.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm so glad that you were able to spare a
little bit of time tonight and come on and hopefully
share some things with us about what all it is
that you do. I think that people will really be
excited to learn more about your Uh, we're going to
talk about your organization and stuff, but I think they'll
(01:35):
be happy to learn more about those kinds of things
and for calming things and stuff like that. So why
don't you go ahead, though, and why don't we just
start out and have you share a little bit more
about your you know, your own personal journey. What first
kind of drew you to the meditation and the calming
(01:57):
and all of that kind of stuff, and what kind
of drew you to the animal aspect of it, and
how they became part of your calm mentorship work.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Oh, thank you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
So with animals, I've always had that real close affinity
with them, and from when I was a tiny, tiny kid,
I can remember if my parents ever let me pick
where we were going to go for a day, it
would be to see the aminals, to see that amenos
and you know, it's okay, right, And that has stayed
(02:34):
with me, you know, throughout my entire life's journey. Animals
have always been a really big significant part of my
daily life of what calms me and what has really given.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Me that purpose, you know, to support.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Them to have their voices heard. I remember again as
a kid, you know, really wanting to get involved in
like save the tigers and save the whales and save
the polar bears.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Those were the big three.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That I remember when I was really little, and with
the calming, it's something I think I've always been like
in essence and like my deepest inner self was a
very calm person and quite sort of happy and smiley.
So I can remember being a very very small kid,
(03:31):
like you know, just going around like the store and
just chatting to anyone smiling. At that point, I had
like no hair, actually, very similar to now because I've
just shaved you know, I've shaved it completely off. Now.
I was grade one for a while and now it's
you know, completely gone, so complete buzz can't now. So
very similar to how I would have been going around
(03:53):
as a kid, just chatting and helping to calm people
just by making them smile, by making them laugh, by
giving them that little bit of daily joy, which really
is another part, you know, of the main work that
I do now. So if it's not sharing animal reiki
with people and their animals, or supporting people to learn
(04:15):
and train in animal reiki, then it's the person's side,
and it's that calmness within yourself, that daily joy, that
daily inner peace, and then noticing that actually, as you
take care of yourself best and you come everyone around
you of all different species, begins to calm as well,
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because they very often are mirroring our own energies.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah. Well, and I've worked with dogs, you know, a
lot of my adult life, between animal control and doing
dog training and stuff like that, so so we know that,
you know, one of the things, especially as a dog trainer,
we you know, try to let people know. You know,
your dog can feel how you're feeling, especially through the leash,
(05:03):
you telegraph it to them. So that is so totally
true about that, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And the other thing that our animals like, especially our
dogs or if people have cats as well, and also
birds they've noticed and horses.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
So actually, the more I go, the wall SPECIs I
add in.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But they really have a very strong like in the
moment existence. So they're just moving moment to moment, and
actually by noticing how they are in that present moment,
it gives us a chance to reflect and notice how.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
We are in that moment.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
The more we're able to be present in exactly each
second like space of time, the easier it is to
choose to be calm because rather than worrying about whatever's
happened in the past, rather than worrying about whatever's going
to happen and in the future, we're meeting them in
that present moment, and that all by itself can be
(06:06):
really super calming.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yep, most definitely, I totally agree with that. So what
what in your personal journey kind of led you to
where you're at right now in your you know, for
your calming and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, So for me, it was I was in a
very dysfunctional, like fifteen year relationship, and I was working
at the time three jobs. Night shift in a small store,
another night shift in another store, and then a day
shift at the local government.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it's in all these three jobs.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And there was one moment when I was working the
late night shift and at the time I was then
going home like one am, two am, and I was
breastfeeding mar then like nearly two year old daughter to sleep,
so she'd stay up until I was that and the
breast better to sleep. And so I said, oh, why
are you still feeding her? And I went, oh, my goodness,
(07:14):
Actually I've got a choice. I could choose because during
the day she was drinking water, she was eating you know,
proper food, so she didn't really need the milk. It
was just that habit, that comforting, that routine. So that
night when I went home, I gave her water from
a little sleepy cup and she fell asleep beautifully. And
(07:35):
that then men, either her sister or my ex husband,
they could you know, give her that drink soothe her
to sleep, so she didn't have.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
To wait till twenty am for me anymore.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
And that was then the beginning of a big, kind
of ongoing avalanche of choice, which very quickly led to
me stepping out of that relationship and like moving. So
I was living in England with them, I moved to
Wales and you know, went through that whole big process.
(08:08):
And then as I was beginning to get settled, we
rescued our first Romanian street dog, and as I began
to rehabilitate her because she was so extremely fearful of people.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was also rehabilitating myself.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And together we were building our trust in ourselves and
then in each other and then you know, people beyond
and also that deep inner calm, that self confidence as well.
And as we were doing that there was a moment
where I spent a huge amount of time just sat
(08:46):
silently with her, you know, at a distance for the beginning,
like a very you know, a good while giving her
all her choices to move into my space or not.
And it was in one of those moments where I
was just I didn't be sharing some animal reiki and
I had such a deep connection with her, And in
that moment, I knew that what I next got to
(09:08):
do was support other people and animals to have that
same experience, to have that deep in a piece, to
reconnect with themselves, to get that calm confidence, and to
then build up that connected communication so that they could
really be themselves whenever they chose to be freely and
(09:31):
with love.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Very nice, and it seems to be working well, I guess, huh.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
We now have our second Romanian rescue dog and he's
like a little soul dog for me. He came to
me in a dream and then I'm searching everywhere for
this tidy, little golden dog and yeah, amazing. He's really
enjoying with like the animal reiki training, the little sort
of animal reiki shares that I do with people so yeah,
(10:07):
they love the very chilled out doggoes now.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
I'm sure, and I'm sure the rescue dogs are just
eating it up, you know, getting all of that good
energy and reiki and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So yeah, it's so luscious.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
And in fact, that's one of the parts that I
love the most about my work is if I'm doing
a training with an animal wiki practitioner or you know,
a dog communication anything like that, then I get to
go into the rescues and support the animals there and
like that is that's bliss for me.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So why don't you go ahead for listeners that are
kind of new to this idea, what exactly is calm
intuitive menbership and how does it applied to our relationships
with animals?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Yeah? Of course. So for me, calm.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Intuitive mentorship is being able to really connect deeply to
your innermo self. So it's being able to sit calmly
with yourself. Now, that in itself is a process. So
when I first began all of this personal development work,
(11:31):
what I realized is that over the years, and at
that point it was like forty years or so, I'd
got all of these old emotions stacked up so like
old anger, old fear, old her, old guilt, old anxiety,
old sadness and sorrow, and they'd all stacked up over
my life.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And I realized I was carrying them, you.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Know, as if I had them in a big backpack,
and that was heavy. That was a really heavy, the
emotional load of baggage that I was carrying with me everywhere.
So as I slowly began to do some work and
then found some really nice, gentle but quick ways to
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release it and let it go, I realized that I
was then like physically standing taller and feeling so much
lighter and calmer and brighter. And it was as if
for me, like this fog kind of cleared and I
could begin to see everything around me more clearly. Everything
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like the flowers, seemed brighter. I could notice, you know,
the wonderful things that my friends, my family, my kids,
that they were doing.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I could really see them through.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Like a greater like love perspective. And I think the
biggest thing for me, and that piece of work which
I now support other people with, is realizing that to
really deeply love anyone else of any species, you get
to love yourself first. And no one had ever told
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me that I very much grew up thinking serve others first,
and your cop you know, and that's what I was doing,
and that's what led me to like three different burnouts,
and that really dysfunctual relationship.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
And as I gently.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Began to realize that actually looking after myself, like putting
my oxygen mask on first, then I could love everyone
else so much more because it was purer, it was clearer.
And from those spaces where I'd released all of those old,
like negative emotions that I've been carrying with me, I
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was then able to be clear with myself to really
communicate with myself.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
So you know, on a daily basis, I'd.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Check in how am I feeling, and then what do
I need? You know, if there was any negativity or
anything I was stressed or worried about, how could I
support myself? And that gives you that clarity then, and
within that self communication that connection that for me is
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where that intuitive part is. So it's being able to
hear yourself, to speak to yourself and trust what you're
saying back because you know it's not the old emotions
or old habits that have got in the way because
you've cleared those down and you know it's you, and
then you've got that, you have by that point self awareness,
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you've got self acceptance, self acknowledgement, and then you're able
to give yourself that self forgiveness and then slowly step
into that self care and that self love, and from there,
when you can be clear and honest with yourself, you
can actually really begin to love yourself exactly as you
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are in every moment and accept that our emotions will
ebb and flow, they'll come and.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Go because life keeps going.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
So even when we've cleared those historical things, you know
new emotions will come up, but you then are equipped
to support yourself with them because rather than it being
like the way of forty your tears worth of fear
or anger or stress or anxiety or sorrow, it's just
in that moment. So then you can either like breathe
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through it. You can have some music to listen to
to help move you through it, but it's easier then
to process and choose to release things and choose to
move into different, more supportive emotions for you in that moment,
and from that space and then able to connect with
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yourself better, with everyone else better, and especially.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
With your dogs.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It makes such a huge difference for people with those
relationships as you're lovingly connecting with yourself, the extra layers
of connection and relationship and support with each other and
that unconditional love you can have with your animals is amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yep, yep, most definitely I could understand. I mean, if
I mean and because the dog I mean has got
to be feeling. If you're feeling you know, good about
yourself and about your you know, things going on and stuff,
your dog's going to feel that because you're gonna again
kind of you know, telegraph it to them and stuff.
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So and dogs are really pretty intuitive. So most definitely
can see how that would you know, be gratifying for both.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, and I think you know, if you wake up
and you're kind of like, oh what, you know, what's
got into my beautiful dog today? Take a moment and
notice how are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
I would say ninety nine.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Nine percent of the time it's something that you're carrying.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
It's not them at all.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
You sort yourself out, you like, release whatever you've got
to release.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You make sure.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
You're hydrated, You schedule in some extra rest for later
that day, and then you know to suddenly they're absolutely fine.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yep, yeah, yeah, I can tell with mine when I'm
not feeling well, she acts differently. So so another thing
you talk about is three seconds to calm. So how
can that simple practice help someone when they're working with,
say a nervous rescue dog or a stressed out care
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or you know, maybe even their own emotional responses around animals.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I love that question, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, so three seconds to come is so beautiful because
it's so quick and simple to do, like everyone can
make time for that in their day. So one of
my favorite ways to calm you, which will then also
reflect and help calm whichever beautiful species you have in
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your space, is one to two breathing practice. So you'd
breathe in for the count of one and breathe out
for the count of two. And to help you how
I often do it as I would say to myself
one green forest tree as I breathe in, and then
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two green forest trees, three green forest trees as I
breathe out. And how that works is that the longer
outbreadth is going to naturally support your rest and relaxation
state through your parasympathetic nervous system, so it's naturally going
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to support you to do that, as you're saying, if
you choose to do so. The green forest tree, the
colors green and blue are often relaxing and calming for people.
And then the forest tree again is drawing on that
green nature, which is naturally often relaxing and.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Calming for people.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
So you're putting in all these different senses. And as
you're thinking that green forest tree, you might be hearing
some birds that are up in that tree. You might
be hearing a river that is washing alongside those trees.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
It's whatever supports you to feel calm.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It can all be with in that tiny three second practice.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
And as you're doing that.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Your energy is naturally going to be calming, relaxing. Any
old stress is going to start to dissipate and release,
and so that's going to support anybody around you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Now with animals.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Also, because they are so connected with their energy, the
moment that your energy starts to calm then naturally going
to start to mirror it.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And again with the breathing, if.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
You're slowing down that natural breathing rate with the longer exhale,
you're also slightly throwing down your heart rate just a little,
and that's equally going to help them to calm. And
it works beautifully as well with babies, with kittens, with puppies,
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because they naturally would be relaxing, you know, if they're
by their mum, they'd natually be relaxing with that heartbeat
and with that breathing rate. So again, just that one
simple three second exercise can pull in all those different things.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
You were talking about the green forest trees, and I
was thinking, man, I really want to be there, Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Exactly, because and again you know, it's that visualization. So if,
for example, a different space would be your favorite calming space,
use a color that's associated and a simple word that
takes you into that space. So it's just drawing on
whichever of your senses is strongest.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
So it might be their scent.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Really supports you to get into that space, So then
just say the word of that scent dead place it
in there. So have a bit of an experiment and
feel free to share what you come up with, because
I love like collating what different people find supportive.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Most definitely well, as we mentioned, of course, animals are intuitive,
So in your experience, how do they respond to the
reiki the meditation or the calm leadership practices.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
We love with.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Love, and for me, the most beautiful thing of offering
animals like to share your energy, to share the calmness,
to share the meditative space, the intuitive space with you
is you're giving them a choice. And like choice and voice,
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these are like two of my big mission things to support,
especially animals, because in so many spaces they have no
choice and they're not you know, their voices don't listen
to So it's having that time and space to pause
and allow them to connect with you if they choose
to do so. So if I'm sharing animal reiki, I'd
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move into space and I'd offer the animal raking. And
then it's their choice if they're going to accept the
energy in that moment, if they want to accept it
but have it for later, or if they choose not
to accept it at all, because just like people, if
they're in a space where they're grieving, where there's been
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a big change, a big shift in their life, or
they're extremely anxious or fearful, they may not want that
energy to help release some process for them in that moment.
They may be happy to take their energy and allow
it to work at a later time perhaps and you're
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not there, or in those cases if they're very fearful
or anxious, I'd always suggest you in a distant reiki
share anyway, so that you're not actually having to come
into their space, and with the reiki, with the animal communications,
so that come meditation that like intuitive space and like
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telepathic because you were describing it before, you don't actually
need to be in the physical space with them anyway,
so you can easily share that energy with them wherever
you are.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I've shared it with people like.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
So many hundreds of thousands of like miles kilometers away,
and you could see it works just the same as
if I were there, you know, just sat next to them.
So it's offering the choice of connection and then just noticing.
So for me, the more that I do that connective
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work with animals and with people as well, the more
I will offer and I will hear a response or
I may feel a response in my body sometimes like
it could be a smell, it could be a sound,
it could.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Be an image, and it's through.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
All my different senses and I then know that I'm
in that connective space with them.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
So yeah, it's amazing. Really when I think about it.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, So then would you say that that is how
that human animal connection kind of works then from what
you were just describing.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Yeah, so I think it's it's obviously in that present moment,
and for every individual and animal in every moment, it's
going to vary. For me, it can be through any
of my different senses. For some people it will be
like a physical connection. For others, they'll hear some words,
maybe they'll see a color, or they'll feel like a
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heat or a coolness. The animal could move away from you,
could move towards you. There are so many different ways
that they can connect and communicate with us that it
all comes down to that individual animal in the moment
and then that individual human animal in the moment as well.
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And I think just like our emotions and our behaviors
will change and you know, kind of develop as we
move through our own personal journeys and our own calm
spaces and maybe not so calm spaces, I think it's
the same for each individual animal as well. So then
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when you're putting any two individuals together, it can come
through any of your sensory spaces. If you work with
like auras and things, then it could be that you're
connecting through there. It could even be connection through like
you know, dreams or day dreams, like really, any way
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that energy can move or flow, there can be a connection.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
There for you.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So then you could basically use communication to better understand
what our pets may be trying to tell us.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Then one and I.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Think even by just spending a few moments silently with
your beautiful animal or animals and just start to notice,
and you could just you could silently ask them a
question and you can ask for a response if you
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choose to do so. So it could even be like
with animal communication at the very beginning, I'd say, just
ask a question, and if it comes to your mind
to ask for a sign, just ask for that sign.
You know, so it can be can you hear me,
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but look at me? If you can hear me, move
a poor if you can hear me, like anything that
feels good for you in that moment, trust yourself, trust
your intuitive flow, your intuitive energy, and then trust your
beautiful animal companion. And I think they pick up on
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so much that is unsaid from us anyway, and we
know that you know, as you were speaking about your energy,
your emotions, your feelings, your attention. Any stress that passes
physically down the leash, So just imagine how much of
your other energy they're picking up and noticing anyway, Right,
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you know, you said if you're feeling oh, if you're
feeling a bit ill, they will be behaving differently. They often,
you know, are kind of prompting us and saying, hey,
you need to take care of yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You need to stop, you know, if you're.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
About to leave to go somewhere, but maybe you've forgotten
something and they're kind of getting in the way, Like
take them oment because there's usually a purpose there and
it might be that they're reminding you of something.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah. So you know, there's probably quite a few of
our listeners out there that have pets that have been
through some kind of trauma, you know, coming from a
shelter or rescue, And what kind of advice would you
give them for helping to create a calmer, safer environment
for their new pets.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So the first thing is to find out as much
as you can about what they've already gone through. Now,
I do realize that many rescue animals there is little
to know history, so there may not be very much there.
But if you can know some of their backstory, some
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of what they've already gone through before that they're coming
into your life, then that's brilliant because you can then
begin to understand how they might be feeling. The other
thing is to ask as many questions. And again, some
rescues are amazing, some rescue foster guardians are amazing, and
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then some don't share so much that anything about their
usual behavior prior to you bringing them home or meeting
them again will be really supportive because then you know
what their kind of usual foundation behavior, sleeping, eating, habits,
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anything like that, so that you understand how they are
at the base level. And then taking time, just lots
of time to allow them to choose to always have
a space so that they can choose to come and
interact with you or choose not to, and obviously always
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be safe. So the ultimate thing is taking care of
everybody's safety. And then it's supporting yourself and supporting them
by you being calm. So even if something else is
going on external and that's causing you some stress or
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any kind of negative emotions, then support yourself as best
you can. Seek extra support outside whatever you need. But
if you're moving into that shared space with them, move
in calmly, so avoid that eye contact, all of.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Those lovely body language.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Things that support so you can make yourself small, you
can look away, and especially with fearful or animals that
have gone through different traumas, it's really using that peripheral vision.
So it's what you're using if you're driving, and you
can kind of practice with it by just looking at
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a point ahead and then just moving your hands out
either side if you so you've got your arms extended
and your hands and then just notice if you can
see those two hands, and just practice with that peripheral
vision because it's really supportive as you're beginning to build
up that connection, build up that trust and that calmness,
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that calm confidence and relationship with nervous or fearful animals
is so you can see them, you know that safe,
you know where you are, and it avoids that, you know,
kind of front on eye contact, and just then really
understanding about the species, so looking into how does that
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species any breed specific communication behaviors, So giving yourself like
as much data you know, sharelock home style like understand
as much as you can, but then also recognize that
the beautiful animal that you are sharing your life, sharing
your space, your home with. They're an individual too, So
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whilst you can have all of this information, what you
really get to do is observe and notice and also
trust yourself because underneath all of these different things that
we've learn in society, at heart, we do have that
intuition within ourselves. So if you're thinking, oh, something feels
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a bit off, then trust yourself and always get it checked,
you know, for yourself.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And also for your animals.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So do you trust yourself with those things, and if
their behavior seems a little bit different, then that's definitely
the point where you reach out for your external like
your viginary support, and just make sure that you're looking
after everybody.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Definitely some good advice for those people out there. So
their beings said, can you now share a success story
where your com techniques have maybe helped transform in animals
behavior or even strengthen the bond between that animal and
their person.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, of course, Oh my goodness, there are so many.
So the first one that I love is my own
one is with Zarah. With that our first beautiful Romanian
street rescue dog. So when we brought her home, she'd
been brought over from Romania from a kill shelter. She'd
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been bored, we think just a few weeks before they
took her into that space. She'd got these two tags
in her ears. She'd pulled them out, so one of
her ears is just like tatters. We still can't understand
how it's still hanging on in there, but it is.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's strung.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And she was so fearful of people. So when they
brought her over to the UK, she'd had like about
six months I think, and she had never gone out
of the tiny like inside area in daylight. She was
hiding this little dark space, really really small, and just
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creeping out each night to eat, drink, do her business,
and then creeping back in. So when I actually inquired
about her, within a few minutes, I had this phone
call from this lady at the rescue.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
She was in tears.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
She was like, you're the only person that has shown
any interest. We think it's maybe because she's a black dog.
And I'm like, oh, my goodness, is that like what?
And they were kind of at the end of their
teather and they were considering putting her down. So within
a couple of days, we drove hundreds and hundreds of
(36:21):
miles to go and fetch her and bring her home,
and it took them about an hour to get her
into a quate. She was so fearful. So we then
had this beautiful dog in our car and we're like, wow,
this is a bigger challenge than we realized that this
is going to be an adventure. So within like a
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few months, just lots of time.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And space for her, everything, her choice.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
I remember the moment when she very first made physical
contact with me and she just came and nustled her
beautiful little nose against my me and I was just like.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Oh my goodness. So in that moment, I'm like saying,
be calm.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm calm, I am calm, because I'm like, there's no
way I'm gonna like ruin this moment. She's got this confidence,
she's come up, she's connected with me, so I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Calm, come, come, and I know.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
So it's really it's like mind over matter, and it's
where that in a self talk.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It can be so powerful.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
So if you're in one of those moments, you know
you've been so patient, You're given this beautiful creature so
long time and space, and they're choosing to finally make
that connection, Like your heart is just like overflowing. You
want to you know, dance, celebrate, but in those moments, peace, calm, calm, chilled,
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whatever works for you, you just repeat that way to yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And so now when we moved into the house that
we're in at the moment, we built like a private
yard for her, so she's got like beautiful house. We've
converted like a big garage for her, so she's.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Got like she literally has her own house.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
And we then have the yards so that the other
dogs can go out and she can play with them,
and she comes up and she's you know, coming up
to us for like scratches and like it's amazing. The
transformation is just absolutely huge. But when you're beginning those relationships,
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I think for me, the main thing is that you're
bringing that beautiful soul into your family and you're supporting them.
You're giving them that unconditional love. You're giving them this shelter,
you're giving them the safety, You're going to take care
of their every need, that holistic health and well being,
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and it's doing it unconditionally, so it's not expecting anything
in return because Equally, there are some animals and they
can be so fearful them have gone through so much
trauma that they may never build up a big bond
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with you. So it's understanding that that also could be
a potential outcome, and just releasing any expectations, like right
from the beginning before you even are reaching out for
a beautiful rescue animal, and just knowing that that's okay.
So whatever level of relationship and connection they choose to
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have with you is okay by you because it can
you know, it.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Really can vary, and if you have like this kind of.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Chocolate box image of like for me in the UK,
it was like Golden Retrievers When I was a kid,
they were in all the kids'.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Books and you were going to throw a ball for this.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Dog and it was going to come back, and you know,
it's going to be your best friend and it was
going to sit with you and all of these things,
and every dog, like every person, is unique an individual,
and especially with rescue and street dogs, we don't always
know what they've already gone through. We don't know what
their parents have gone through, we don't know all of that,
(40:38):
like genetic and epigenetic history. We just we don't know, right,
So it's like allowing them to be themselves. And that's
where again that choice and that voice, they really come
into play for me. So I think for me, if
you're rescuing and this can even be like from breeding
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dogs as well, is just except that it's an individual,
and be as loving and patient with them and yourself
as you can be, and always seek that support like
before you really really need it.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Like seek the support right near.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
The beginning, and that can just make us so much
smoother for you.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yep. So you've kind of set yourself a big mission
with your take thirty four U movement, So you want
to help millions embrace daily calm and with that, how
are animals going to fit into this vision of yours?
Speaker 3 (41:43):
So for me, I think, actually they're right at the
base of it. So when I felt that mission, it
was in that moment of connection with Zarah, our first
Romanian street dog, So she's right there at the center.
My business is called like Family, your Connection, so it's
right at the very.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Center, the epicenter of.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
All the work that I do is for any species.
So the work that I'm doing with people like we're
species too, were also an animal. So it's you know,
and it's I think actually a large part of the
work I do with people, the mentoring, the coaching, the mindset,
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the meditation, it's.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
All about remembering who.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
We actually are and we were not designed to live
as we live now. We were designed to have that
nature connection. So in a way, really it's bringing people
back to those like innate needs and desires and that
nature connection that in the moment being present and from
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there the calm, the inner piece all flows through. So animals,
they're kind of already there, So with them, it's supporting
them to have that voice, supporting people to give animals
a voice, supporting people to give animals a choice, So
they kind of go hand in hand.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
They think I would agree with that. I think they
do too, Yeah, most definitely. So in case any of
our listeners might want to try one of your calm
practices with their animals or their pets today, what's one
simple step that they could start with?
Speaker 3 (43:35):
Okay, So the first one would be, if there's an
activity that.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
You both already loved to do together, go do.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
It and be really really present with your beautiful animal
in that moment.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
So if you love, if you guys love walking.
Speaker 3 (43:57):
Together, go for a whatt together and really be present
with them. So rather than maybe listening to something else
or catching up on your texts or taking photos, they
really just be with them in that moment. And if
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it's like grooming or just snuggling.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Up together, maybe like here.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
We're moving into autumn, so snaggling up, maybe in front
of the fire, sharing a meal at the same time,
whatever you love to do together, just make a really
big thing of being fully.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Present with them.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
And when you take those moments every day, just being
absolutely release any stresses before you move into that space.
So listen to some calving music for yourself to support
you so that go of anything else and just fully
be present in that moment with them. And if you
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can do that every day, even just for a few minutes,
you will notice such a big deepening and strengthening to
your connection and relationship together. And you know, you can
try that with other species in your life too.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
You know, it's kind of funny, you know that you're
talking about, you know, how to do that be with
your you know, animal's pet and in that moment, and
so one of the things that we talk about with
some of the dark training that we do is it's
called a puppy massage, and it's just you know, telling people,
you know, to sit on the floor with their puppy,
your dog, and they're just you know, petting them and
(45:45):
running their hands over them. Number one, it gets them
used to being touched. And also you can, you know,
if you notice any bumps in there or anything like that,
you can get your dog checked out. But it was
so funny because when we would do it in our
group classes and people would be sitting there on the
floor and they'd be pretty soon you're seeing the dogs
are all nice and calm and relaxed, and they're just
(46:07):
with their eyes half closed, and so yeah, it really
you'd be amazed just sitting on the floor and doing
a little simple puppy massage with your pet or kidney
massage even too, if your cat's going to allow you
to sit on the floor and just make over them
and do that, you know, or you're being pet your bird,
(46:28):
you know, your horrors, whatever you may have. So yeah,
it's just amazing though how much of a calming effect
and relaxing effect I had on the dogs and the classes.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Oh yeah, that's cool. Just I've got that image now.
It's beautiful and I think it's the same with us.
If someone shows you the respect and like the love
of being fully present with you, it's so releasing and relaxing.
You'll find you'll be like your eyes are kind of
(47:01):
start to close. Like we all want to feel safe,
we want to feel love, We want to feel that connection,
and especially our cats, our dogs, many different birds, horses,
you know, cows and you know so many animals. They
just want to feel safe and loved. And when you
(47:24):
share that energy, yeah, we get to naturally start to release.
And that's where that relaxation, that calm, that inner peace,
you know, that's where that all flows in so naturally
and like with ease. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
So, Liz, why don't you tell us where people can
learn more about your calm, mentorship services, your group sessions,
and even a little bit more about you.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Oh yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
So the easiest thing is pop Liz Clifton into your
favorite search engine that may be. And my site is
Liz Clifton, which is l is z C l I
F t O N dot co dot UK.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
Super simple, yep.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
And then as we're coming to the end of our
interview here why one of the Yeah, excuse me, I'm
just losing what I'm trying to say here.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
It's all good.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
What do you think is the most important lesson that
animals have taught you about calm connection and living fully,
love yourself.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
Love yourself.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It's the message that I get from every animal. So
every species that I've connected with, calmly say, just over
the last well just today. So today I've connected with
a seagull at the seaside, a group of different like
crows vuying through the air, some bees, some spiders. Still
(49:08):
not my favorite, but I do have my math just
love that rescue animals, you know, all these different beautiful beings,
love yourself because where you love yourself, it gives you
that space to pause and connect with the love that
(49:30):
is all around you in all different species. And when
you take those moments to just notice, to love, to
be grateful for whatever species. It is like, we've had
so many butterflies around here recently, and I will send
a little bit of love and gratitude to eat to them.
And every now and then, like more often, as I
(49:51):
move through, I just hear I love you, you.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Know, just flowing back. So where you're.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Giving that beautiful love, that recognition fly.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
Back to you too.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
That's awesome. That's such a good final synopsis for all
of that. That's awesome, what a great sentiment. Well, listen,
we are at the end of the podcast, at the
end of the interview, and I will say too, I
will go ahead and share your site on my Facebook
(50:24):
page that I have as well, so if people want
to go from mind to yours, they can do that
very easily. But I really appreciate you coming on and
talking about all of this tonight and sharing your experiences
and how you got going on this journal and how
you've been able to include the animals in it. I
think that's great and very simple step for people to
(50:47):
be able to do, to start connecting with their own animals.
So hopefully some people will go out and try to
do that.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yes, super simple. I think everything in life gets to
be simple. Ye, thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
That's how I like it. It's super simple. So well,
all right, well, thank you again for being on tonight.
I'm just gonna go ahead and announce my next upcoming podcast.
And I know it's kind of late where you're at,
so you're more and welcome to jump off, or if
you prefer to stay on, you can do that too.
But like I said, I'm just gonna announce the next
couple of podcasts.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Thank you so much, such a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
It was great talking with you, Liz. I have a
great one and bye bye. All right, everybody, So I
hope you all enjoyed the discussion with Liz tonight about
her calming, mentorships and intuitiveness and all of that. It
(51:49):
was great to talk with her about all of that,
and hopefully you guys got some great tips on connecting
with your own animals as well. So I really appreciate
her being in and letting you guys know about some
of that stuff. And if you are interested in learning more,
go check out her website, and again you'll be able
(52:09):
to get to it from my Facebook page here. I'll
be putting that stuff up within a couple of days
after the podcast. All right, So now let's see the
next podcast coming up is gonna be October sixteenth. It's
gonna be Bison Dialogues with doctor Philip Ursul. He has
(52:32):
been researching bison and things like that, and he's gonna
come on and give us all sorts of info about bison,
and for all of those people that think it's a
really great day idea to get out of a vehicle
or even go near a bison or any other wild animal.
Hopefully he'll be able to share some facts about why
(52:57):
that's not such a great idea. I'm not quite sure
what possesses people to do these things. You would think
they would learn better and realize that's not good idea.
But anyway, he'll be on to give us all sorts
of great information about bison and I'm looking forward to that.
And then right before Halloween October thirtieth, I am going
(53:18):
to have doctor Robin Moore on with me. She is
a veterinarian, and we're going to be discussing litter box
issues for our kitty cats. I thought this would be
a great topic to discuss on here because I know that,
you know, sometimes people have issues with their kiddy cats
using their litter boxes. I had many cats, unfortunately, that
(53:42):
would get turned in at the shelter, and I'm sure
many shelters do it. In any workers or animal control
officer's probably know what I'm talking about here. They come
in because their cats are having They turn them in
because their cats are having some litter box issues, whether
they're not using the litter box, they're throwing the litter
all over the place, whatever the case may be. So anyway,
doctor Robin's going to be on with us on October
(54:03):
thirtieth to talk more about litter box issues and hopefully
how you can try to stop the issues that you're
having and give us some tips and ideas of what
you might need to do, you know, if you start
seeing litterbox issues with your kiddi cap So those are
the next couple of coming podcasts. Hopefully you guys will
(54:23):
be able to come on back and listen in to those.
Don't forget them the October sixteenth, Doctor Philip Earthil and
buy some dialogues, and then October thirtieth, Doctor Robin Moore
and talking about litter box issues. So with that being said, everybody,
I hope you all have a great weekend, Stay safe
(54:44):
out there, don't get into any trouble, and come on
back in a couple of weeks and listen in all
right by now, have a great night.
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