May 7, 2025 • 45 mins
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Welcome to another edition of Carnivore Bites host Jeff Sherman
along with doctor Eric Lopkin and doctor Lopkin. You know,
you ever hear the old adage all things else are irrelevant?
Kind of somewhat applies Indian Pakistan. I think Pakistan had
a terrorist attack against India first, and India's retaliated in
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a massive fashion missile attack. And just to put some
context on it, you know, looking into it, like I
think time Fly fifteen years ago was under George w
They were almost in a conflict, and Rumsfeld went to
both of them and showed them pictures of what would
have what would happen they went nuclear, and at the time,
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being a self serving person that I am, I said,
I don't give a shit my problem. And then doing
further research doctor Lopkin, I found out that one third
of the world potentially would expire due to famine if
they did go nuclear, because both of them will have
over one hundred nuclear weapons. Your thoughts and by the way,
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a hatred that is unrivaled except maybe in the Middle East.
They despise each other, they hate each other.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yes, this isn't this is an ancient battle. They've been
at each other's throats for well, certainly decades, but I
think technically centuries.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I mean put in a little bit of historical context.
In fact, when India got its independence from Great Britain
back after World War Two, they basically were one country.
There's no such a thing as India or Pakistan and Bangladesh.
But they had such heated and will heat it basically
minimizing it. It was a blood bath and they had
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to separate them. So it's pretty bad. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yes, and again, the conflicts between the peoples, if not
the governments, have been going back for centuries.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, basically, in a nutshell, what happened was there was
a terrorist attack in Kashmir, which is disputed territory. The
attack was against India. India has said, you know, Pakistan
has denied any involvement.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
India has said they've.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Tracked down who was responsible and the folks that claimed
to be responsible are actually have ties to Pakistan militias.
So India did a counter strike yesterday and took out
terrorist infrastructure. Now, they were very careful not to target
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any Pakistani military, but unfortunately it does look like civilians
were killed Pakistan. Pakistan responded by shooting down Indian fighter jets,
and now India is actually trying to de escalate because
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they are actually smart enough to know if this goes nuclear,
it's bye bye, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, And and something else about I agree very little
with Barack Obama, but one thing I do agree with
him on was that he told Trump the thing that
keeps him up at night is the nuclear Pakistan because
people don't really understand this or realize it. Pakistan is
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pretty close to a failed state with nuclear weapons. Just
want to put that on you, doctor lopin Ye, it's
it's almost a dick. It's hanging on to a semblance
of a government.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, remember Osama bin Laden hid out in Pakistan for years,
and Pakistan actually kept us from going in to find him.
The Pakistani government has terrorist ties, they have for god
knows how long. This is not a stable.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Part of the world.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, the fact that they have nukes, the fact that
either one of these countries has.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Terrified a lot more Indian. Yeah, it's definitely terrifying, but
India is exponentially more stable. India is at least part
of the of the world community. Yeah, Pakistan, and I
wouldn't give it that nod.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, in India for the most part is part of
the global community. They do business all over the world.
But by the same to where Pakistan has deep ties
to terrorists, India has deep ties to Russia. At this
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point in time, I don't know that that's better.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, let me be clear, you are a correct doctor.
It's not good anyway you look at it. But I
would say in terms of the level of danger both
of them having nuclear and the other thing is I
hate to be so blunt, but life I've known people
to travel to India and Pakistan. Life does not have
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the same value as it does in the West. That's
another issue as well. So I don't think it's going
to escalate, but it's just one more hot area. But
I think area that might have some promise will start
with Ukraine. Trump signed the mineral deal, and also it
looks like hinting that there might be another participant in
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the Abraham Accords, and it's appearing not definite, appearing that
it could be Saudi Arabia. Many geopolitical experts think that
if that does happen, Iran is further in the box
your thoughts, doctor.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, starting with Ukraine, the mineral deal is key because
the rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine, as well
as several other areas, they are crucial for building batteries,
building electric cars, all of our infrastructure. We require these minerals.
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The fact that we now have a deal with Ukraine
should put Houtin off because let's face it, we're not
going to send companies to mine there without protecting them.
So that's sending a message to putin that Look, you're
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gonna have to come to the table for real, because
we are going to be working there and if you
bomb anywhere near us, we will respond.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Agree and yes, many yes that and even beyond that.
But I think it's it sends many signals, and it's
a stroke of geniuses again playing three D checkers versus
I mean three D chess versus checkers. And also when
you think of the Abraham the potential for the Abraham
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Accords being heightened and added to with Saudia Arabia, well that.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Actually doesn't surprise me. If you remember us Oudi Arabia
and Israel, we're close to a deal just before October seventh,
and in fact, there are there's a lot of speculation
that that was one of the things that pushed Iran
to manipulate Hamas and Hezbola into doing this because they
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did not want that deal with Saudi Arabia going through. Yes,
it does further minimize Iran. And you know, if the
deal had gone through prior to October seventh, it would
have been a big deal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Now it is pivotable. It is game changing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Because back then, even with the Saudi Arabian Israel Israel deal,
Biden was still funneling money to Iran. Trump has cut
off all of that money. He is He's talked numerous
times about blocking them from the world economy. He has
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said over and over again that under no uncertain terms
will they be allowed to have nukes.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So this is now.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
A an even bigger deal than it would have been
on October six.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
May interject something on that. I found an interesting commentary
beyond yes, you are one hundred percent correct about the
October Surprise tragedy, but it's also much when you elaborate
on that. Yes, Saudi Araba backed away, but they also
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backed away because it looked like Israel was becoming weaker.
It was a big intelligence failure and all the above.
And now that Israel has proven that they are the
without question dominant power in the Middle East and i
Ran as highly crippled. I believe that Saudi Arabia sees
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this as a tremendous opportunity to put the final kabash.
I really think it was a stroke of genius. I
think it will happen. Saudi Arabian Iran hate each other,
and I think the only thing and what you're comment
I'm sure our listeners do as well that could be
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a real potential negative is like a cornered cat. I
believe Iran is increasingly feeling that way, especially their their government.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, leadership, Iran is definitely in a corner back to
the wall, and yes, that is when an animal.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is most dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
In terms of what Saudi Arabia expected from Israel, one,
I don't think they expected Israel to keep going like this.
I think they expected this to go the way of
most other Middle Eastern wars with Israel, where they took
the you know, they took their land back. They you know,
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they got the hostages game over. You know, a couple
of weeks, Hamas kept doubling down, they killed the hostages,
They've refused to release them, and Israel has decided, all right,
enough is enough, we are eliminating Hamas. They also greatly
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weakened Hezbolah. They've also been attacking in Lebanon to get
rid of the Houthis, and of course Trump backed them
up by bombing the Houthis at sea every time they
had a missile attack. So it is a very different
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situation than it was on October sixth. I don't think
we've actually talked about this on the podcast, but it
has just recently come out that the Biden administration, not
Joe Biden, himself. But the administration was making plans to
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interfere in the Israeli elections and and get net Nyahu
out of power because they they knew net and Yaho
was going to do this. Now, to Joe Biden's credit,
he's actually the one that stopped them from going ahead
with this. How that happened, I don't know, but I'll
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give credit where.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Credit moment clarity, But that actually even goes back to Obama.
He was no friend of Israel and he hated Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But the fact that we now have an American government
who is backing Israel unconditionally, that Israel is unanimous, their
their ministry, their their government just put forth a plan
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to occupy Gaza for as long as it will take
to eliminate Hamas. So Iran is losing on every front.
I don't think Iran ever imagined that this would be
a loss this big for them, one.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hundred percent correct, even in terms of when they had
the big three hundred missile strike, which potentially was a
complete and abject failure. Very very interesting, there's no question
about that. Senator Grant. Senator Lindsay Grant came out and
said that long, it's long overdue that Israel, with the
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help of the United States, hits Iran and knocks out
there ducular facilities.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Your thoughts, Lindsey Graham's not the only one who is
saying that.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I mean, Trump has has told net N Yahoo, you
do what you need to do, tell us.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
What you need. We've got your back.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
John Fetterman has been talking about the fact that Iran
needs to be taken out. Forget negotiations. He is actually
advocating that we bomb Iran and take out their nuclear
facilities once and for all. So yeah, this is I mean,
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this is going on in our government. It's not just
Lindsey Graham. The government has finally realized Iran cannot be
negotiated with. They cannot be dealt with other than in
terms they understand, which is essentially blasting them back to
the Stone Age.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Why do you think we are negotiating it all? That is Trump?
Do you think it's just for optics? I think checking
all the boxes before you push the final button.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I think it's partially checking all the boxes. I also
think Trump has, and he stated this over and over again,
he has an aversion to getting US more involved in
foreign wars. So if he can negotiate his way to
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a peace deal. That's his preference. Do I think he's
going to be able to I? As people keep yelling, well,
you can't trust Putin, I think Putin is an angel
compared to the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You are correct. And also the terms, unlike the niavite
of Obama and the blown outness of Biden, his negotiating
negotiating stance is basically inspections anytime anywhere, the dismantling of
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nuclear facilities. They're never going to go for that, No, don't.
I'm not going to be like, yeah, you can let
us look at your the ones you want us to
look at. Yeah. No, it's very invasive and it's not
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, actually, I think there's a third option. I honestly
think what is going to happen is Trump is going
to back the Iranian regime into a corner. Iran's not
going to agree to a new deal because I don't
think they'll ever agree to the terms Trump is putting forward.
But Trump is going to keep putting pressure on them
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more and more. And unlike Obama and Biden, Iran's already
seen that we have no problem bombing their proxies and
taking out their proxies. So that's going to put more
pressure on them. I think ultimately the pressure is going
to break and we are not going to take out
the Iranian regime. The Iranian people will.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
That's actually very interesting that Nya who is giving a
talk and he does a lot of posting and messaging
to Iran in spite of what the repercussions could be.
And I know this sounds crazy, he gets a lot
of positive feedback from Iranians.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, there when Israel struck Iran after Iran's missile attack,
there was graffiti all over Iran from the people that
in Arabic said take them out, we have your back,
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and it was a message to Netanyahu.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I think it was registered. How do you like that?
Both in America and in Israel. I think the Iranian
people used to be a secular country, very advanced, very
pro western Shaw. Obviously he had some very big missteps,
but compared to the alternative, I think they would take
the Shaw back any day, with all his warts. But
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isn't an interesting were talking about things about Trump and
we look at now inflation's essentially zero, oil prices some
places not in Connecticut or below two believe it or not,
replease believe it or not. But then we look at
Biden gives an interview and he's cheering into Trump. I
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think it's like shouting anything you want in a force.
I don't think anyone even cares. I've never seen a
president in my life, adult life. Maybe before then that
has faded into oblivion and an irrelevancy faster and more
decisively than Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, the whole reason that Biden gave the interview, and
he has a number of interview scheduled. He's actually going
to be doing more media over the next month than
he did in four years as president. And the reason
for this is that there is a barrage of books
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coming out from media personalities, from former Biden staffers, all
talking about the cover up of his incompetence and his
lack of mental capacity.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So he is.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Now going to be doing interviews to be on the offense.
He wants to defend himself against these charges and go, no, look, yo,
I'm fine. They don't know what they're talking about. Except
every time he does one of these interviews, everybody sees
that he's not all there.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I did not see this interview. How bad was it?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It was not as bad as some of the ones
he's done, but it was bad.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Checking. And by the way, it just real quick because
he's interjecting real quick. I think it's his wife that's
forcing him to do that, because she cares about her
legacy and she really cares, like, you have no idea
not to be invited in any galas. Sorry, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh I'm I'm sure she's the one behind it. I
don't think he cares. I think he wants to lay
on the beach and forget all this ever happened.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Butpkin, he's blown out and he doesn't give a shit anyway,
never really did, and he just checked the box as
president the Scranton kid low like Q Kid makes it
to the presidency Uncle Joe and hely he'd be drinking
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coronas and he could care less. Yeah, but his wife
would get rid of his ass probably.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But yes, I can't remember who it was, but somebody
was describing what we saw because one of the things
he talked about in the interview was he's still trying
to tie Trump to Russia. And one commentator actually said,
the big problem is Biden left a mess with Russia
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for Trump to clean up. And we all saw and
I love the description. He said, we all saw Biden
arguing with himself in public over what to do about Russia,
and the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Problem was Biden lost the argument.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I love that, and it's actually true. It all
started with Afghanistan and it was a feeding frenzy for
the world. I think his I think he will by
I mean Obama will have a legacy. It's diminishing exponentially
as we speak, but the first black president, and I
think that's actually it. How do you like that? That's
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what Ben Biden will have none tweedled and tweedled dumb.
You can choose which ones which, And I think that's
the way it's going to go. And it's very interesting.
If you've seen Michelle lately, she's done some pot well.
Her podcast is about like four listeners. Given the hype
with her brother, who's a real boy genius. But anyway,
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the elitism, the outer the being so out of touch,
being so bitter and mean and radical, talking about all horrible.
It was being first lady that he had to pay
for your food. And she's got too, She's worth a billion,
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she's got too. With one hundred million dollar houses. It's
almost comical. And she fears for her kids being abducted.
I mean, this lady's not all all that. She's not well,
and I'm not saying that for effect. I think something's
a little Michugarno with her, and I'm rereally being honest,
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and she's a devout racist. She kept it under wraps,
but she everything is racist anyway. One last thing is
I heard the commentary is she's also sounds like something
that is out of the nineteen seventies, like this is
twenty twenty five. Okay, it's not. It's not the black
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Panthers to kill ye.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
First, first of all, she never kept it under wraps.
Remember in Obama's first term she made the comments this
was the first time she was ever proud of America.
So she's she's never kept kept her feelings under wraps.
I honestly think Michelle Obama right now is doing more
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damage to Barack Obama's legacy than Biden did.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
True, I would agree, and I don't think there's a
lot of love loss there because even when she said that, yes,
being a black woman your face with all these adversities,
and it's even worse because you don't have many in
your life that are gonna stick up for you. That's
a pretty big bitch. Clap. Sorry, sorry, that's a shot
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at Barack and no kiddy, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Serious, Seriously, we've had presidents not get along with their
wives before. I mean, look at Bill and Hillary. We've
never seen them take it out in public like this.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Wait wait, I like when you say no, no. I like
when you said because when you go public, you don't
give a shit. I think it sounds a minor, but
it's big. When you keep it behind closed doors, you
have a psychology that maybe we can work this out,
and you care what other people think. When you go public,
you don't give a shit on both both areas, about
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the marriage and about what people think. Yeah, I think
they're not nuances. They're pretty direct.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh yeah, her attacks against Barak a not nuanced. But
like take Hillary, I don't think she gives a damn
about Bill. I think the reason that they kept it
private was because Hillary didn't want it enter Fearing in
her political career, Michelle Michelle has Well. She stated she
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doesn't want a political career, but quite frankly, America doesn't
want her to have a political Well.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
No, no, doctor Lachlan, that was great. That's why you're
the doctor. I think, either by design or just by coincidence,
she blew up that bridge. She always had the thing
because people, you know, the uninformed voter, it's Michelle. She's
like America's mother's No, she's basically identified herself as what
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she's really is a race fader, not very happy person
and essentially a big radical. She would have zero point
zero chance of becoming president zero.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I don't think she has any well, certainly not now.
But I think part of what is going on there,
and you know, I don't want to give him credit
for everything, because all he's doing right now is existing
and you know, the left is.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Doing this to themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But I honestly believe that part of what sent Michelle
over the edge was the fact that blacks voted for
Trump over Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yes, and bypassed and did not adhere adhere to Obama's edicts,
which was a slap basically going around Barack and moving
towards Trump. That's just a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It is, And let's face it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Remember when Obama campaigned for Hillary she campaigned. He campaigned
that it was about his legacy, and the American voter
slapped him down. Now it was about black pride, and
you know, and Michelle was big for Kamala Harris because
a black woman. We needed a black woman, and America
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slapped him down again. And I think the fact of
the matter is, yes, we could have a female black president,
there is no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But or we could have.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
A female president in the case of Hillary Clinton. But
they keep choosing the worst possible candidates. So it's not
about women or black or white or anything like that.
It's give us a candidate that we feel is going
to have our backs, and that certain.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But it's but it's also juvenile. It's juvenile rationalization. In
other words, when a little kid at stop, he not
his fault. It's because he struck out because it was cloudy,
or he flunked the test because the lights were too
That's the same thing with the Democratic Party. They can't
come to grips with it. Let's face it, Kamala Harris
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is an I'll go right on right ahead and say it,
an abject moron. She just did a speech and again
words laughing talking about Theesen elephants. I mean, what are
you smoking like? You're an idiot. She's an idiot. I'm
not kidding with you. That's not for posturing. She is
a moron, devoid of any original thought. And she lost
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for good reason.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yes, there were very good reasons she lost. The Democrats
still have not come to terms with that. And I mean,
I found it hysterical that there's so much talk.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Already about twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We haven't even gotten past the midterms yet they're not
But even Democrats don't seem to be looking at the midterms.
They're already planning for twenty twenty eight. Maybe they think
they're gonna get wiped out in the midterms.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But they're talking about bringing Hillary off the bench to
run again in twenty twenty eight. They're talking about AOC.
Harris has been talking about the possibility of running again,
and oh, I can't remember who said it, but somebody
was talking about the fact that you can't underestimate Harris
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because she still has the donor base.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Donors have come out and said they will never give
her another dime because she spent a billion over a
billion dollars in a hundred days, with nothing to show.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
For it, and just by the way, pissing away money,
you know, again, not strategically feeding consultants. It was basically
a feeding frenzy at a trough, an unlimited buffet of cash.
Uh oh yeah, Well put your likeness on the globe
in Vegas and have consultants tell you you're the best
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of the best so you can keep on funding them.
The whole it was it was a microcosm of what
her presidency would have been. It would have been a disaster.
But I do think what's the ex governor of Illinois?
He basically I agree with him one hundred percent. I
think they're drifting more toward you brought up, you know,
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moderate Democrats and all that stuff. I think they're not drifting.
They're accelerating to the right, and I think AOC or
someone ilk to the left. I'm sorry, my corrected, Yes,
to the left is a more than a realistic possibility.
How do you like that, one, doctor, lock More than realistic.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It's worse than that, because the party isn't simply a
celerating to the left, they are now actively attacking the moderates.
There was a hit piece put out in New York
Magazine by left wing Democrats attacking John Fetterman because he
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is not cowtowing to them. And the fact of the
matter is, right now, he's the voice of reason in
the party. If they don't start listening to him, they're
going to be in the weeds for a long long time.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
You could call this delusional, but I believe that. Yes,
We've talked about it for years. Okay, Trump has many
many faults, right, but I truly believe a year from now,
when or a year and a half from now, whatever
you want to call it, when people are looking, really
looking at the midterms, my little prediction is that the
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Republicans will pick up in both houses. Is it because
Trump's No, it's because they're looking at the alternative and
it's not pretty well crazy. I mean, is that literally nuts?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah. I think.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Also, by the time people are seriously looking at the midterms,
you're going to have the new trade deals in place.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, you're going to have gas prices dropping even more
because the energy infrastructure that he started to put in
through executive orders will have started to take shape. Because
these things do take time, you're going to see inflation lower.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So it already is lower.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'm saying lower than even now. Okay, so all of
that together, people are going I mean again, that was
a big part of why people voted for Trump, because
they were going to the supermarket and not believing what they.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Can what they were paying.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You're going to see all of those things that actually
impact people.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yes, So let me just say one more thing about
a point of clarity in terms of paying too much.
Of course they were paying too much, and an excellent point.
But there's also the thing in the same holds true
with the media, the lack of trust that developed between
the general public and both the media and the dem Oh,
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there's no in the borders in control. People notice that
they come home and they get angry because most people
live paycheck to paycheck, and they say, and they get mad.
They say, I'm telling me eggs are fine and inflations moderating. Dear,
I can't afford groceries. They got to put it on
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a credit card. And the media this old crap going
back over ten years, Russia and this, and they try
to and now they start dreaming up these hopes and
it's got no salency. It's got no traction. They go
one after another and it's just And even CNN was
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interviewing gang bangers from Venezuela giving them the human touch.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, it is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Although I did see one press conference that Chuck Schumer
did was absolutely hysterical because he started the press conference
attacking Trump's poll numbers because.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I love that one.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
His favorability has actually dropped to forty five percent in
some of these polls, and one of the reporters actually
said to Chuck Schumer at the press conference, well, but sir,
your poll numbers are even lower, and the Democrat's average
(35:55):
poll numbers are around twenty five percent. And so suddenly
Schumer was going, oh, poll numbers don't matter.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, Humor's lost his A game as well his like
you said, seventeen percent. I think he's going to be
primary and he could very well lose. How do you
like that? There's no question about that. As the radicalization
or the further radicalization of the Democratic Party continues. But
you talk about the media, I have no problem with this.
(36:26):
Trump to sign an executive order if you will, defunding NPR.
It's more than than than than time for that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Again, we've talked about this before, but NPR and PBS,
especially with government funding, don't really have a purpose anymore.
I mean PBS first of all. PBS has I believe,
three different cable networks, all of which they get paid
(36:58):
by the cable provide to carry. Okay, we're not talking
about your local PBS station. We're talking about Sprouts, which
is for little kids. We're talking PBS kids. I believe
there's a third one. But these are essentially commercial networks
(37:19):
and they're making money off of that. They have merchandising
up the wazoo. All of the streaming services pay PBS
for the rights to their programming. So they are bringing
in more than enough money that if they weren't run
ass backwards, they wouldn't even need the government funding.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It wouldn't make a difference.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Now they don't need the government funded. They don't need
the government funding. They're a abarachi of the democratic liberal establishment.
They are not news. They have well worn out their
initial thirty years ago. An MPR, you might actually get
some I remember the News Hour with McNair I believe
(38:06):
his name was.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
The McNeil err reports.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, totally on board. I thought it was excellent. Now
they'd be run out of town in that whack job
network again. And by the way, they should cut the
funding because then it would just mean that more libs
and radicals would buy more of their tote bags, because
that's their badge of it. That's the how you identify
your fellow liberal psychotics by the MPR tote bag. If
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that went away, their universe might implode.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, it again, there's no real need for them.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
All of the educational programming that they used to tell well,
guess what, we've got the Discovery Channel, We've got the
Science Channel, we've you know, we've got well, I can't
even say the Learning Channel anymore because that's not learning.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
But they've got over down.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But you know, the the case in point is that
they don't serve a purpose. They used to have even
interesting fun shows like card Talk. Wait wait, don't tell
me now, it's always an agenda they and also even
if you look at the hearings in Congress, they are
so called leadership, total smug elitist liberal ivy League crack
(39:23):
pots that need go to go back to Vaser and
have a sorority rally because it's over Dude, don't let
the door hit you on the ass. How does that sound?
And speaking of hitting you on the ass, you might
get hit on the ass or other places flying, correct,
doctor Lopkin.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, I mean it is absolutely ridiculous what is going on,
and we're seeing, you know, government funding is being cut
right and left, thank god, because we have been overspending,
wasting money. And yes, at this point, PBS, NPR, it's
(40:04):
you know, there's no need for them because you have podcasts,
you've got YouTube, you've got five hundred channels that you
can choose from.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
There is no need for the government to be.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Paying for politically biased coverage.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And you think there's a need to have MPR broadcast
on your next flight because at least it'll compensate for
not having radar.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, right, that's it. Yeah, that's somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
We've been paying for all these things, but we haven't
been paying for actual infrastructure, despite what Biden claimed with
his Infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Act did not much.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I'm sure most of our listeners have seen what has
gone on over the past few days. At Newark Airport,
we've actually had they had ninety seconds where they lost
contact with all of the planes.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
There at the long time.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yes, and this has happened apparently according to reports eight
previous times. Why because one the infrastructure they are using
is from nineteen seventy five. Could you how many people
even have a phone that goes back then?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Most people?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Wait? No, think about that. No way, Wait, that's a
good k that's a good concept. Think about what does
anyone have from nine maybe a record of the Doobie Brothers, Like,
there's nothing that you have from nineteen seventy five. Nothing,
maybe a radio in your kitchen that you use while
you're cooking or something, I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Go ahead, and with all of that, you have.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Life, life threatening situations need to be prevented by this
nineteen seventy five in structure.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Do you think they still use punch cards?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
No, they don't use punch cards. They use well it's
not it's not far off though. They the system still.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Action on floppy discs.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Oh god, yes, nice, it's.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Running on floppy discs and in c that.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Was cutting edge though in seventy five.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Right, But instead of actually fixing this and this is
a this is a problem that goes back a long time.
You know a lot of people are yelling this was
the fault of the Biden administration. No, this was the
fault of I'm gonna name five people that you can
(42:47):
lay this at the feet of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush,
Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden because none of
them in their pre vious administrations did anything to.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Fix this problem.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
The Biden administration made it worse because they halted hiring
of qualified people to work as air traffic controllers because
they insisted they had to hire DEI people.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
And their Infrastructure Bill did nothing. It was a Green
New Deal disguised as infrastark and that's why I'm sorry
we disagree with this. I have little to no respect
for Joe Manchin. He got played like a fiddle. He
kind onto it, and that's why he left. That's the way.
That is why Joe Manchin.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Has left the building because there was no way he
could come back from being played like a fool the
way Schumer played.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Him, especially in West Virginia. That wasn't gonna And plus,
he had no place in the Democrat His only way
was independent or Republican. He has nothing in common with
the modern socialists, crazy nutcases in the Democratic Party. Look
look at our list. Will go ahead look at.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
How many moderate Democrats over the past several years mention cinema.
There were a number of others who have either left
all together or just said this is it.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I'm done. I'm not running for reelection.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
You'll see this accelerating, by the way, and I.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Believe there's sharing accelerating.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yes, it will continue to accelerate. And I believe the
Sheriff of La the old switcheroo too, because you know,
you've you've you've had enough, You've had enough. But our
listeners have not had enough, have they, doctor Lopkin? Hopefully
hopefully not.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
No, they're still with us, and of course we want
to hear what they have to say. So if you're
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Speaker 3 (45:26):
I will see you next week, doctor Lopkin.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
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Welcome to another edition of Carnivore Bites host Jeff Sherman
along with doctor Eric Lopkin and doctor Lopkin. You know,
you ever hear the old adage all things else are irrelevant?
Kind of somewhat applies Indian Pakistan. I think Pakistan had
a terrorist attack against India first, and India's retaliated in
(01:28):
a massive fashion missile attack. And just to put some
context on it, you know, looking into it, like I
think time Fly fifteen years ago was under George w
They were almost in a conflict, and Rumsfeld went to
both of them and showed them pictures of what would
have what would happen they went nuclear, and at the time,
(01:50):
being a self serving person that I am, I said,
I don't give a shit my problem. And then doing
further research doctor Lopkin, I found out that one third
of the world potentially would expire due to famine if
they did go nuclear, because both of them will have
over one hundred nuclear weapons. Your thoughts and by the way,
(02:13):
a hatred that is unrivaled except maybe in the Middle East.
They despise each other, they hate each other.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yes, this isn't this is an ancient battle. They've been
at each other's throats for well, certainly decades, but I
think technically centuries.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well, I mean put in a little bit of historical context.
In fact, when India got its independence from Great Britain
back after World War Two, they basically were one country.
There's no such a thing as India or Pakistan and Bangladesh.
But they had such heated and will heat it basically
minimizing it. It was a blood bath and they had
(03:00):
to separate them. So it's pretty bad. Go ahead.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yes, and again, the conflicts between the peoples, if not
the governments, have been going back for centuries.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It is absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, basically, in a nutshell, what happened was there was
a terrorist attack in Kashmir, which is disputed territory. The
attack was against India. India has said, you know, Pakistan
has denied any involvement.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
India has said they've.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Tracked down who was responsible and the folks that claimed
to be responsible are actually have ties to Pakistan militias.
So India did a counter strike yesterday and took out
terrorist infrastructure. Now, they were very careful not to target
(03:57):
any Pakistani military, but unfortunately it does look like civilians
were killed Pakistan. Pakistan responded by shooting down Indian fighter jets,
and now India is actually trying to de escalate because
(04:17):
they are actually smart enough to know if this goes nuclear,
it's bye bye, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, And and something else about I agree very little
with Barack Obama, but one thing I do agree with
him on was that he told Trump the thing that
keeps him up at night is the nuclear Pakistan because
people don't really understand this or realize it. Pakistan is
(04:47):
pretty close to a failed state with nuclear weapons. Just
want to put that on you, doctor lopin Ye, it's
it's almost a dick. It's hanging on to a semblance
of a government.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, remember Osama bin Laden hid out in Pakistan for years,
and Pakistan actually kept us from going in to find him.
The Pakistani government has terrorist ties, they have for god
knows how long. This is not a stable.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Part of the world.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, the fact that they have nukes, the fact that
either one of these countries has.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Terrified a lot more Indian. Yeah, it's definitely terrifying, but
India is exponentially more stable. India is at least part
of the of the world community. Yeah, Pakistan, and I
wouldn't give it that nod.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, in India for the most part is part of
the global community. They do business all over the world.
But by the same to where Pakistan has deep ties
to terrorists, India has deep ties to Russia. At this
(06:10):
point in time, I don't know that that's better.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, let me be clear, you are a correct doctor.
It's not good anyway you look at it. But I
would say in terms of the level of danger both
of them having nuclear and the other thing is I
hate to be so blunt, but life I've known people
to travel to India and Pakistan. Life does not have
(06:35):
the same value as it does in the West. That's
another issue as well. So I don't think it's going
to escalate, but it's just one more hot area. But
I think area that might have some promise will start
with Ukraine. Trump signed the mineral deal, and also it
looks like hinting that there might be another participant in
(07:00):
the Abraham Accords, and it's appearing not definite, appearing that
it could be Saudi Arabia. Many geopolitical experts think that
if that does happen, Iran is further in the box
your thoughts, doctor.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Well, starting with Ukraine, the mineral deal is key because
the rare earth minerals that are in Ukraine, as well
as several other areas, they are crucial for building batteries,
building electric cars, all of our infrastructure. We require these minerals.
(07:42):
The fact that we now have a deal with Ukraine
should put Houtin off because let's face it, we're not
going to send companies to mine there without protecting them.
So that's sending a message to putin that Look, you're
(08:05):
gonna have to come to the table for real, because
we are going to be working there and if you
bomb anywhere near us, we will respond.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Agree and yes, many yes that and even beyond that.
But I think it's it sends many signals, and it's
a stroke of geniuses again playing three D checkers versus
I mean three D chess versus checkers. And also when
you think of the Abraham the potential for the Abraham
(08:39):
Accords being heightened and added to with Saudia Arabia, well that.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Actually doesn't surprise me. If you remember us Oudi Arabia
and Israel, we're close to a deal just before October seventh,
and in fact, there are there's a lot of speculation
that that was one of the things that pushed Iran
to manipulate Hamas and Hezbola into doing this because they
(09:07):
did not want that deal with Saudi Arabia going through. Yes,
it does further minimize Iran. And you know, if the
deal had gone through prior to October seventh, it would
have been a big deal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Now it is pivotable. It is game changing.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Because back then, even with the Saudi Arabian Israel Israel deal,
Biden was still funneling money to Iran. Trump has cut
off all of that money. He is He's talked numerous
times about blocking them from the world economy. He has
(09:51):
said over and over again that under no uncertain terms
will they be allowed to have nukes.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So this is now.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
A an even bigger deal than it would have been
on October six.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
May interject something on that. I found an interesting commentary
beyond yes, you are one hundred percent correct about the
October Surprise tragedy, but it's also much when you elaborate
on that. Yes, Saudi Araba backed away, but they also
(10:28):
backed away because it looked like Israel was becoming weaker.
It was a big intelligence failure and all the above.
And now that Israel has proven that they are the
without question dominant power in the Middle East and i
Ran as highly crippled. I believe that Saudi Arabia sees
(10:50):
this as a tremendous opportunity to put the final kabash.
I really think it was a stroke of genius. I
think it will happen. Saudi Arabian Iran hate each other,
and I think the only thing and what you're comment
I'm sure our listeners do as well that could be
(11:12):
a real potential negative is like a cornered cat. I
believe Iran is increasingly feeling that way, especially their their government.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, leadership, Iran is definitely in a corner back to
the wall, and yes, that is when an animal.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is most dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
In terms of what Saudi Arabia expected from Israel, one,
I don't think they expected Israel to keep going like this.
I think they expected this to go the way of
most other Middle Eastern wars with Israel, where they took
the you know, they took their land back. They you know,
(11:56):
they got the hostages game over. You know, a couple
of weeks, Hamas kept doubling down, they killed the hostages,
They've refused to release them, and Israel has decided, all right,
enough is enough, we are eliminating Hamas. They also greatly
(12:18):
weakened Hezbolah. They've also been attacking in Lebanon to get
rid of the Houthis, and of course Trump backed them
up by bombing the Houthis at sea every time they
had a missile attack. So it is a very different
(12:40):
situation than it was on October sixth. I don't think
we've actually talked about this on the podcast, but it
has just recently come out that the Biden administration, not
Joe Biden, himself. But the administration was making plans to
(13:00):
interfere in the Israeli elections and and get net Nyahu
out of power because they they knew net and Yaho
was going to do this. Now, to Joe Biden's credit,
he's actually the one that stopped them from going ahead
with this. How that happened, I don't know, but I'll
(13:21):
give credit where.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Credit moment clarity, But that actually even goes back to Obama.
He was no friend of Israel and he hated Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But the fact that we now have an American government
who is backing Israel unconditionally, that Israel is unanimous, their
their ministry, their their government just put forth a plan
(13:52):
to occupy Gaza for as long as it will take
to eliminate Hamas. So Iran is losing on every front.
I don't think Iran ever imagined that this would be
a loss this big for them, one.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Hundred percent correct, even in terms of when they had
the big three hundred missile strike, which potentially was a
complete and abject failure. Very very interesting, there's no question
about that. Senator Grant. Senator Lindsay Grant came out and
said that long, it's long overdue that Israel, with the
(14:35):
help of the United States, hits Iran and knocks out
there ducular facilities.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Your thoughts, Lindsey Graham's not the only one who is
saying that.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I mean, Trump has has told net N Yahoo, you
do what you need to do, tell us.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
What you need. We've got your back.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
John Fetterman has been talking about the fact that Iran
needs to be taken out. Forget negotiations. He is actually
advocating that we bomb Iran and take out their nuclear
facilities once and for all. So yeah, this is I mean,
(15:18):
this is going on in our government. It's not just
Lindsey Graham. The government has finally realized Iran cannot be
negotiated with. They cannot be dealt with other than in
terms they understand, which is essentially blasting them back to
the Stone Age.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Why do you think we are negotiating it all? That is Trump?
Do you think it's just for optics? I think checking
all the boxes before you push the final button.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I think it's partially checking all the boxes. I also
think Trump has, and he stated this over and over again,
he has an aversion to getting US more involved in
foreign wars. So if he can negotiate his way to
(16:13):
a peace deal. That's his preference. Do I think he's
going to be able to I? As people keep yelling, well,
you can't trust Putin, I think Putin is an angel
compared to the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You are correct. And also the terms, unlike the niavite
of Obama and the blown outness of Biden, his negotiating
negotiating stance is basically inspections anytime anywhere, the dismantling of
(16:50):
nuclear facilities. They're never going to go for that, No, don't.
I'm not going to be like, yeah, you can let
us look at your the ones you want us to
look at. Yeah. No, it's very invasive and it's not
going to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Well, actually, I think there's a third option. I honestly
think what is going to happen is Trump is going
to back the Iranian regime into a corner. Iran's not
going to agree to a new deal because I don't
think they'll ever agree to the terms Trump is putting forward.
But Trump is going to keep putting pressure on them
(17:27):
more and more. And unlike Obama and Biden, Iran's already
seen that we have no problem bombing their proxies and
taking out their proxies. So that's going to put more
pressure on them. I think ultimately the pressure is going
to break and we are not going to take out
the Iranian regime. The Iranian people will.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
That's actually very interesting that Nya who is giving a
talk and he does a lot of posting and messaging
to Iran in spite of what the repercussions could be.
And I know this sounds crazy, he gets a lot
of positive feedback from Iranians.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yes, there when Israel struck Iran after Iran's missile attack,
there was graffiti all over Iran from the people that
in Arabic said take them out, we have your back,
(18:30):
and it was a message to Netanyahu.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
And I think it was registered. How do you like that?
Both in America and in Israel. I think the Iranian
people used to be a secular country, very advanced, very
pro western Shaw. Obviously he had some very big missteps,
but compared to the alternative, I think they would take
the Shaw back any day, with all his warts. But
(18:56):
isn't an interesting were talking about things about Trump and
we look at now inflation's essentially zero, oil prices some
places not in Connecticut or below two believe it or not,
replease believe it or not. But then we look at
Biden gives an interview and he's cheering into Trump. I
(19:17):
think it's like shouting anything you want in a force.
I don't think anyone even cares. I've never seen a
president in my life, adult life. Maybe before then that
has faded into oblivion and an irrelevancy faster and more
decisively than Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, the whole reason that Biden gave the interview, and
he has a number of interview scheduled. He's actually going
to be doing more media over the next month than
he did in four years as president. And the reason
for this is that there is a barrage of books
(19:59):
coming out from media personalities, from former Biden staffers, all
talking about the cover up of his incompetence and his
lack of mental capacity.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
So he is.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Now going to be doing interviews to be on the offense.
He wants to defend himself against these charges and go, no, look, yo,
I'm fine. They don't know what they're talking about. Except
every time he does one of these interviews, everybody sees
that he's not all there.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I did not see this interview. How bad was it?
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It was not as bad as some of the ones
he's done, but it was bad.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Checking. And by the way, it just real quick because
he's interjecting real quick. I think it's his wife that's
forcing him to do that, because she cares about her
legacy and she really cares, like, you have no idea
not to be invited in any galas. Sorry, but go ahead.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Oh I'm I'm sure she's the one behind it. I
don't think he cares. I think he wants to lay
on the beach and forget all this ever happened.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Butpkin, he's blown out and he doesn't give a shit anyway,
never really did, and he just checked the box as
president the Scranton kid low like Q Kid makes it
to the presidency Uncle Joe and hely he'd be drinking
(21:29):
coronas and he could care less. Yeah, but his wife
would get rid of his ass probably.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But yes, I can't remember who it was, but somebody
was describing what we saw because one of the things
he talked about in the interview was he's still trying
to tie Trump to Russia. And one commentator actually said,
the big problem is Biden left a mess with Russia
(21:59):
for Trump to clean up. And we all saw and
I love the description. He said, we all saw Biden
arguing with himself in public over what to do about Russia,
and the.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Problem was Biden lost the argument.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, I love that, and it's actually true. It all
started with Afghanistan and it was a feeding frenzy for
the world. I think his I think he will by
I mean Obama will have a legacy. It's diminishing exponentially
as we speak, but the first black president, and I
think that's actually it. How do you like that? That's
(22:37):
what Ben Biden will have none tweedled and tweedled dumb.
You can choose which ones which, And I think that's
the way it's going to go. And it's very interesting.
If you've seen Michelle lately, she's done some pot well.
Her podcast is about like four listeners. Given the hype
with her brother, who's a real boy genius. But anyway,
(23:00):
the elitism, the outer the being so out of touch,
being so bitter and mean and radical, talking about all horrible.
It was being first lady that he had to pay
for your food. And she's got too, She's worth a billion,
(23:23):
she's got too. With one hundred million dollar houses. It's
almost comical. And she fears for her kids being abducted.
I mean, this lady's not all all that. She's not well,
and I'm not saying that for effect. I think something's
a little Michugarno with her, and I'm rereally being honest,
(23:44):
and she's a devout racist. She kept it under wraps,
but she everything is racist anyway. One last thing is
I heard the commentary is she's also sounds like something
that is out of the nineteen seventies, like this is
twenty twenty five. Okay, it's not. It's not the black
(24:05):
Panthers to kill ye.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
First, first of all, she never kept it under wraps.
Remember in Obama's first term she made the comments this
was the first time she was ever proud of America.
So she's she's never kept kept her feelings under wraps.
I honestly think Michelle Obama right now is doing more
(24:29):
damage to Barack Obama's legacy than Biden did.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
True, I would agree, and I don't think there's a
lot of love loss there because even when she said that, yes,
being a black woman your face with all these adversities,
and it's even worse because you don't have many in
your life that are gonna stick up for you. That's
a pretty big bitch. Clap. Sorry, sorry, that's a shot
(24:56):
at Barack and no kiddy, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Serious, Seriously, we've had presidents not get along with their
wives before. I mean, look at Bill and Hillary. We've
never seen them take it out in public like this.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Wait wait, I like when you say no, no. I like
when you said because when you go public, you don't
give a shit. I think it sounds a minor, but
it's big. When you keep it behind closed doors, you
have a psychology that maybe we can work this out,
and you care what other people think. When you go public,
you don't give a shit on both both areas, about
(25:39):
the marriage and about what people think. Yeah, I think
they're not nuances. They're pretty direct.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh yeah, her attacks against Barak a not nuanced. But
like take Hillary, I don't think she gives a damn
about Bill. I think the reason that they kept it
private was because Hillary didn't want it enter Fearing in
her political career, Michelle Michelle has Well. She stated she
(26:05):
doesn't want a political career, but quite frankly, America doesn't
want her to have a political Well.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
No, no, doctor Lachlan, that was great. That's why you're
the doctor. I think, either by design or just by coincidence,
she blew up that bridge. She always had the thing
because people, you know, the uninformed voter, it's Michelle. She's
like America's mother's No, she's basically identified herself as what
(26:37):
she's really is a race fader, not very happy person
and essentially a big radical. She would have zero point
zero chance of becoming president zero.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I don't think she has any well, certainly not now.
But I think part of what is going on there,
and you know, I don't want to give him credit
for everything, because all he's doing right now is existing
and you know, the left is.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Doing this to themselves.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
But I honestly believe that part of what sent Michelle
over the edge was the fact that blacks voted for
Trump over Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Yes, and bypassed and did not adhere adhere to Obama's edicts,
which was a slap basically going around Barack and moving
towards Trump. That's just a fact. That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It is, And let's face it.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Remember when Obama campaigned for Hillary she campaigned. He campaigned
that it was about his legacy, and the American voter
slapped him down. Now it was about black pride, and
you know, and Michelle was big for Kamala Harris because
a black woman. We needed a black woman, and America
(28:12):
slapped him down again. And I think the fact of
the matter is, yes, we could have a female black president,
there is no problem with that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But or we could have.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
A female president in the case of Hillary Clinton. But
they keep choosing the worst possible candidates. So it's not
about women or black or white or anything like that.
It's give us a candidate that we feel is going
to have our backs, and that certain.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
But it's but it's also juvenile. It's juvenile rationalization. In
other words, when a little kid at stop, he not
his fault. It's because he struck out because it was cloudy,
or he flunked the test because the lights were too
That's the same thing with the Democratic Party. They can't
come to grips with it. Let's face it, Kamala Harris
(29:12):
is an I'll go right on right ahead and say it,
an abject moron. She just did a speech and again
words laughing talking about Theesen elephants. I mean, what are
you smoking like? You're an idiot. She's an idiot. I'm
not kidding with you. That's not for posturing. She is
a moron, devoid of any original thought. And she lost
(29:38):
for good reason.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Yes, there were very good reasons she lost. The Democrats
still have not come to terms with that. And I mean,
I found it hysterical that there's so much talk.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Already about twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We haven't even gotten past the midterms yet they're not
But even Democrats don't seem to be looking at the midterms.
They're already planning for twenty twenty eight. Maybe they think
they're gonna get wiped out in the midterms.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But they're talking about bringing Hillary off the bench to
run again in twenty twenty eight. They're talking about AOC.
Harris has been talking about the possibility of running again,
and oh, I can't remember who said it, but somebody
was talking about the fact that you can't underestimate Harris
(30:34):
because she still has the donor base.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Donors have come out and said they will never give
her another dime because she spent a billion over a
billion dollars in a hundred days, with nothing to show.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
For it, and just by the way, pissing away money,
you know, again, not strategically feeding consultants. It was basically
a feeding frenzy at a trough, an unlimited buffet of cash.
Uh oh yeah, Well put your likeness on the globe
in Vegas and have consultants tell you you're the best
(31:16):
of the best so you can keep on funding them.
The whole it was it was a microcosm of what
her presidency would have been. It would have been a disaster.
But I do think what's the ex governor of Illinois?
He basically I agree with him one hundred percent. I
think they're drifting more toward you brought up, you know,
(31:37):
moderate Democrats and all that stuff. I think they're not drifting.
They're accelerating to the right, and I think AOC or
someone ilk to the left. I'm sorry, my corrected, Yes,
to the left is a more than a realistic possibility.
How do you like that, one, doctor, lock More than realistic.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It's worse than that, because the party isn't simply a
celerating to the left, they are now actively attacking the moderates.
There was a hit piece put out in New York
Magazine by left wing Democrats attacking John Fetterman because he
(32:17):
is not cowtowing to them. And the fact of the
matter is, right now, he's the voice of reason in
the party. If they don't start listening to him, they're
going to be in the weeds for a long long time.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
You could call this delusional, but I believe that. Yes,
We've talked about it for years. Okay, Trump has many
many faults, right, but I truly believe a year from now,
when or a year and a half from now, whatever
you want to call it, when people are looking, really
looking at the midterms, my little prediction is that the
(32:54):
Republicans will pick up in both houses. Is it because
Trump's No, it's because they're looking at the alternative and
it's not pretty well crazy. I mean, is that literally nuts?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah. I think.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Also, by the time people are seriously looking at the midterms,
you're going to have the new trade deals in place.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, you're going to have gas prices dropping even more
because the energy infrastructure that he started to put in
through executive orders will have started to take shape. Because
these things do take time, you're going to see inflation lower.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So it already is lower.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'm saying lower than even now. Okay, so all of
that together, people are going I mean again, that was
a big part of why people voted for Trump, because
they were going to the supermarket and not believing what they.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Can what they were paying.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
You're going to see all of those things that actually
impact people.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yes, So let me just say one more thing about
a point of clarity in terms of paying too much.
Of course they were paying too much, and an excellent point.
But there's also the thing in the same holds true
with the media, the lack of trust that developed between
the general public and both the media and the dem Oh,
(34:28):
there's no in the borders in control. People notice that
they come home and they get angry because most people
live paycheck to paycheck, and they say, and they get mad.
They say, I'm telling me eggs are fine and inflations moderating. Dear,
I can't afford groceries. They got to put it on
(34:49):
a credit card. And the media this old crap going
back over ten years, Russia and this, and they try
to and now they start dreaming up these hopes and
it's got no salency. It's got no traction. They go
one after another and it's just And even CNN was
(35:10):
interviewing gang bangers from Venezuela giving them the human touch.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, it is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Although I did see one press conference that Chuck Schumer
did was absolutely hysterical because he started the press conference
attacking Trump's poll numbers because.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I love that one.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
His favorability has actually dropped to forty five percent in
some of these polls, and one of the reporters actually
said to Chuck Schumer at the press conference, well, but sir,
your poll numbers are even lower, and the Democrat's average
(35:55):
poll numbers are around twenty five percent. And so suddenly
Schumer was going, oh, poll numbers don't matter.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, Humor's lost his A game as well his like
you said, seventeen percent. I think he's going to be
primary and he could very well lose. How do you
like that? There's no question about that. As the radicalization
or the further radicalization of the Democratic Party continues. But
you talk about the media, I have no problem with this.
(36:26):
Trump to sign an executive order if you will, defunding NPR.
It's more than than than than time for that.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Again, we've talked about this before, but NPR and PBS,
especially with government funding, don't really have a purpose anymore.
I mean PBS first of all. PBS has I believe,
three different cable networks, all of which they get paid
(36:58):
by the cable provide to carry. Okay, we're not talking
about your local PBS station. We're talking about Sprouts, which
is for little kids. We're talking PBS kids. I believe
there's a third one. But these are essentially commercial networks
(37:19):
and they're making money off of that. They have merchandising
up the wazoo. All of the streaming services pay PBS
for the rights to their programming. So they are bringing
in more than enough money that if they weren't run
ass backwards, they wouldn't even need the government funding.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
It wouldn't make a difference.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Now they don't need the government funded. They don't need
the government funding. They're a abarachi of the democratic liberal establishment.
They are not news. They have well worn out their
initial thirty years ago. An MPR, you might actually get
some I remember the News Hour with McNair I believe
(38:06):
his name was.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
The McNeil err reports.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Yeah, totally on board. I thought it was excellent. Now
they'd be run out of town in that whack job
network again. And by the way, they should cut the
funding because then it would just mean that more libs
and radicals would buy more of their tote bags, because
that's their badge of it. That's the how you identify
your fellow liberal psychotics by the MPR tote bag. If
(38:32):
that went away, their universe might implode.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, it again, there's no real need for them.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
All of the educational programming that they used to tell well,
guess what, we've got the Discovery Channel, We've got the
Science Channel, we've you know, we've got well, I can't
even say the Learning Channel anymore because that's not learning.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
But they've got over down.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
But you know, the the case in point is that
they don't serve a purpose. They used to have even
interesting fun shows like card Talk. Wait wait, don't tell
me now, it's always an agenda they and also even
if you look at the hearings in Congress, they are
so called leadership, total smug elitist liberal ivy League crack
(39:23):
pots that need go to go back to Vaser and
have a sorority rally because it's over Dude, don't let
the door hit you on the ass. How does that sound?
And speaking of hitting you on the ass, you might
get hit on the ass or other places flying, correct,
doctor Lopkin.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, I mean it is absolutely ridiculous what is going on,
and we're seeing, you know, government funding is being cut
right and left, thank god, because we have been overspending,
wasting money. And yes, at this point, PBS, NPR, it's
(40:04):
you know, there's no need for them because you have podcasts,
you've got YouTube, you've got five hundred channels that you
can choose from.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
There is no need for the government to be.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Paying for politically biased coverage.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And you think there's a need to have MPR broadcast
on your next flight because at least it'll compensate for
not having radar.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, right, that's it. Yeah, that's somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
We've been paying for all these things, but we haven't
been paying for actual infrastructure, despite what Biden claimed with
his Infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Act did not much.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
I'm sure most of our listeners have seen what has
gone on over the past few days. At Newark Airport,
we've actually had they had ninety seconds where they lost
contact with all of the planes.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
There at the long time.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yes, and this has happened apparently according to reports eight
previous times. Why because one the infrastructure they are using
is from nineteen seventy five. Could you how many people
even have a phone that goes back then?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Most people?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Wait? No, think about that. No way, Wait, that's a
good k that's a good concept. Think about what does
anyone have from nine maybe a record of the Doobie Brothers, Like,
there's nothing that you have from nineteen seventy five. Nothing,
maybe a radio in your kitchen that you use while
you're cooking or something, I doubt it.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Go ahead, and with all of that, you have.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Life, life threatening situations need to be prevented by this
nineteen seventy five in structure.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Do you think they still use punch cards?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
No, they don't use punch cards. They use well it's
not it's not far off though. They the system still.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Action on floppy discs.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Oh god, yes, nice, it's.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Running on floppy discs and in c that.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Was cutting edge though in seventy five.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Right, But instead of actually fixing this and this is
a this is a problem that goes back a long time.
You know a lot of people are yelling this was
the fault of the Biden administration. No, this was the
fault of I'm gonna name five people that you can
(42:47):
lay this at the feet of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush,
Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden because none of
them in their pre vious administrations did anything to.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Fix this problem.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
The Biden administration made it worse because they halted hiring
of qualified people to work as air traffic controllers because
they insisted they had to hire DEI people.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
And their Infrastructure Bill did nothing. It was a Green
New Deal disguised as infrastark and that's why I'm sorry
we disagree with this. I have little to no respect
for Joe Manchin. He got played like a fiddle. He
kind onto it, and that's why he left. That's the way.
That is why Joe Manchin.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Has left the building because there was no way he
could come back from being played like a fool the
way Schumer played.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Him, especially in West Virginia. That wasn't gonna And plus,
he had no place in the Democrat His only way
was independent or Republican. He has nothing in common with
the modern socialists, crazy nutcases in the Democratic Party. Look
look at our list. Will go ahead look at.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
How many moderate Democrats over the past several years mention cinema.
There were a number of others who have either left
all together or just said this is it.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I'm done. I'm not running for reelection.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
You'll see this accelerating, by the way, and I.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Believe there's sharing accelerating.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yes, it will continue to accelerate. And I believe the
Sheriff of La the old switcheroo too, because you know,
you've you've you've had enough, You've had enough. But our
listeners have not had enough, have they, doctor Lopkin? Hopefully
hopefully not.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
No, they're still with us, and of course we want
to hear what they have to say. So if you're
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(45:15):
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Speaker 3 (45:26):
I will see you next week, doctor Lopkin.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
We'll see you then.
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