EPISODE 232: "The Tip of the Iceberg": The Murder of Patrick Moffly

In 2016, Charleston Police received a 911 call regarding a shooting at a downtown residence. A beloved College of Charleston student had been shot in the doorway of his own home. As if the shooting wasn't bad enough, it was what was found around his body that ended up blowing the lid off of an intricate criminal operation that had been hidden in plain site.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
For over three hundred and fifty years, the state of
South Carolina has been the setting for some of the
most horrendous crimes ever committed. Some have gained global notoriety,
some have been forgotten, and others have been swept under
the rug completely. Now, two South Carolina natives and true

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crime enthusiasts have teamed up to examine these heinous acts
in detail, giving their perspective of the evil that has
resided in the Palmetto State. You're listening to Carolina Crimes.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
And welcome back to Carolina Crimes, episode two thirty two. Wow.
I'm one of your hosts, Matt Hyres, along.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
With Danielle Myers, and we.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Are over the moon thrilled that you joined us here
this week. And Danielle, this is going to be a.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Wild one you're telling me episode.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Two thirty two. And of course we try to keep
things topical throughout the year as we go along. And
it's almost i mean, it's hard to it's unbelievable that
I'm saying this and it's July twenty seventh, but it's
almost back to school time. Yeah, not only for the
grade school folks, but also the college aged folks and

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we usually try to typically around this time of year
focus on a college campus crime, some kind of crime
dealing with schools, and today is certainly going to be
no different. And this is going to take some twists,
some turns, a dual parallel investigation and it is all
over the place. Wow, ok it is. Before we get started,

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just a few housekeeping notes, thank you for the feedback
from last week's episode. As most of these are a
tragic tale about a young life cut short and kind
of highlighting the red flags of an abusive relationship. Those
are stories that need to be told. Awareness needs to
be made for people that are going through that, or

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maybe they see that from the outside looking in that
it's a warning about how potentially dangerous these relationships can be.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
So and hopefully, you know, it resonates with someone and
they can say that sounds like something I'm in and
maybe how do you paying attention a little bit more?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, you know, can always help.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And maybe it can save a life for sure. Well,
today's story, it's going to take place in Charleston, South Carolina.
Before we dive into it, just want to remind everyone,
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of Carolina Crime's paraphernalia. So we haven't been in Charleston
for a while, Yeah, I mean there are a plethora
of crimes throughout the years. I mean it's the oldest
city in the state of South Carolina, so of course
that history going way back. But this is one that's
going to be more recent, that gained national headlines, international headlines.

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Oh in fact.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
And it's interested if I've heard this one before.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
A lot of times I don't think I have, and
you'll go you have, and halfway through or you'll say
something and it clicks, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, and you've heard of it. But I had heard
of it, but not a lot of the details and
it's incredibly tragic, incredibly shocking that this was even going on.
But at the beginning of every show, you know, we go,
if you've listened to the show for a while, we
delve into the history of the setting Charleston. We could

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have an entire two hundred and thirty one part podcast
about the history of Charleston.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Absolutely, And we've gone through the highlights the low lights before.
But we're going to focus the history portion on an
institution in Charleston in particular this time, and we're going
to talk about the College of Charleston. They're in the
Holy City. The College of Charleston was founded in seventeen

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seventy and the history of CFC it really parallels the
history of our nation when you break it down. The
College of Charleston is the oldest municipal college in the
United States. And some of the founders is like a

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who's who list of the founding fathers of our country,
especially from the South. Yeah. On their board of founders
for College at Charleston, three of those guys signed the
Declaration of Independence. What Yeah, Edward Rutledge, Thomas Hayward, and
Arthur Middleton. Also some of the founders three signers of

(05:31):
the US Constitution, John Rutledge and Charles Pinkney and his
son Charles Coatsworth Pinkney Charleston. So quite uh, very impressive. Yeah,
quite an impressive list of founders for this oldest municipal
college in the US.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
I didn't know it was the oldest in the United States.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Now it's I think it was seventh or twelfth oldest,
But the oldest municis Charleston. Yeah, there's not a town
called Harvard or Yeah or anything like that. It does
take that that mantle. Now, the majority of the original campus,

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including Randolph Hall, was built using slave labor, as one
can imagine being in that time period. And the campus
itself even today, it doesn't really have boundaries. It's very unique.
It doesn't have the gates or walls like that college

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at the Ashley River. Just kind of north of that
or USC you see the big gates and walls surrounding
the campus buildings, but it's kind of scattered mostly in
the central downtown area Charleston. And I'm gonna say downtown
a lot in this podcast, but what I'm talking about
is peninsular Charleston. You know, across the revenue you got

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Mount Pleasant all up and down there, and then across
the connector you got West Ashley over on the other
side by that round Holiday Inn. But everything there in
between on that peninsula considered really downtown Charleston. Now the
public College. It's home to around twelve thousand undergrads every

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fall and about a thousand graduate students there and some
of the famed alumni from the College Charleston. Number one.
I found this really interesting. His name was nafez Is Afar.
He is the principal engineer at DreamWorks Animation.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
He's worked on movies such as Shrek Forever after Kung
Fu Panda. I did the special effects for one of
the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and an impressive resume.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yes, also a graduate of the College Charleston, or Linda.
She's an attorney and she was the first Native American
woman to argue a case before the US Supreme Court.
So quite a feather or a quite an accomplishment. There
also a graduate of the College of Charleston, Casey DeSantis,

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the first Lady of the State of Florida. Yes, also
attended College of Charleston. Edward McCain, singer songwriter. We just
talked about him on our Greenville episode. Robert Mills was
a graduate of college at Charleston. He was the first
American born architect and he designed most of the original

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University of South Carolina campus, along with the Washington Monument. Yes,
and finally, last but not lease, This dude is hilarious.
Orlando Jones. He was on Mad TV Peder role in
Sleepy Hollow, the replacement. I think he was on the
some seven up commercials back in the day. But I

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see you throwing it in your Google, you say, oh
that guy, But yeah, he is absolutely hilarious. Yes, Well,
our story, we're going to start from the very beginning,
and we're going to talk about a young man from
Mount Pleasant, so it's just north of downtown Charleston, who

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was born on Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving in
nineteen ninety two, and his name was Patrick Mofley. Patrick
was one of a kind. Everybody that I've heard talk
about him or everything I've read about him, he was unique,

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just boisterous, outgoing, friendly, and he was a child that
made fast friends with everyone he came in contact with
because he was genuine. Yeah, I mean he you had
to have a good time, loved having a good time,
and loved others around him to have a good time.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
And it was like a great person to be around,
the exact person you want to be around.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yes, yes, and always entertaining. His parents would say, you know,
absolutely no lack of entertainment or worry around him. He
was kind of the family daredevil, as we'll talk about.
But Patrick, he was one of four of the Mathley children.

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He was sandwiched in age between two sisters and the
eldest of all the Mathley siblings was an older brother.
The family they lived on a sprawling farm in Mount Pleasant.
They had a lot of land animals to take care of, horses.
His parents they ran a successful contracting real estate business.

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They were just fantastic at business and good people all
around for sure. But with all the siblings and the
business dealings going on, it was virtually impossible for Patrick
to get lost in the sibling shuffle or the shuffle
of everyday life. Like we said, he was essentially the

(11:16):
family comedian, the catalyst for entertainment, and the family daredevil. Now,
there was not any activity that Patrick Mofley wouldn't try.
He would always put his heart and soul into everything,
and it seemed like he leaned more toward some of
the extreme sports. I think he did participate in soccer

(11:38):
as a younger child, but very interesting surfing, oh, okay, kayaking, snowboarding.
In fact, he got certified as a wilderness rescue first
responder and there's several videos online of him excelling at skateboarding.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
That's one thing I never was able to do.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, and I'm I'm envious to that. I mean, I
was one of these husky kids that during the skateboard
and craze. Yeah, I got a skateboard, but my mom
made sure, I mean she's neurologist, practiced. I had a helmet,
I had you know, elbow pads, knee patch. She made sure.
I would say she did her job. But I could

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never really get the hang of it or do any trick.
So I just kind of ride up and down the driveway.
I can.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
I can stand on it while somebody I'm holding onto
somebody and they pulled me along. It's about my skill set.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yes. Now, when it came to schooling for Patrick, that
wasn't really I guess his strong suit, not because he
wasn't bright. He's very intelligent, but because there was not
a lot of adventure, really sitting behind a desk.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Like this isn't fun for me, So I'm just no.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah. But besides the academic part of school, Patrick he
definitely enjoyed the social aspect of school and he got
to be around his friends, have conversations, have fun, have
a good time. And as he got older, Patrick was
defined as the heartbeat of the party crowd. Yes, and

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even as a underclassman at Wanda High School, he really
refined his party skills. But soon in high school he
started kind of skirting the limits of the law. His
older brother and I'm gonna give some credit. I'm trying
to think of the name of it was an ABC production,

(13:38):
I think was Death in the Dorms where he gave
an interview and said, you know, he Patrick got in
trouble with a you know, possession ticket, trouble for some
underage drinking, started to get into some fights. Things that
kind of commiserate with partying at a young age and

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at an immature age. But Patrick he started kind of
throwing parties on family land. And I'm not sure if
it was actually at the family farm or connected but
there's one story that folks told that Patrick threw a
party that ended up getting broken up by the police.

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They'd heard about it, and cops were there. Patrick, being
the athlete adventurer he was, of course he's great at
climbing trees. He climbed up this big oak tree to
get away from the police. Well police, they didn't really
see him, but they were looking around for more kids
that were at the party, these underage drinkers, and they
came up to the tree that he was hiding in,

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and they were kind of looking in the flashlights, looking
at the branches, looking up, and all of a sudden,
Patrick from opening his hiding space, whispered, no one's up here.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
That's hilarious, I know.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
And of course, I mean you.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Look somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
No one's here. But that I appreciate that because this
guy would have definitely been one of my friends.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well, and even in this situation where you're like, oh
my god, the cops are coming, I'm not gonna get
a ticket. I'm gonna have to do you know, my
parents are gonna find out. I'm gonna get in trouble,
You're still like there's a humor in this situation, which
probably sounds like with him was kind of unintentional because
he just didn't have to try.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
It's just a funny guy anyway. And he had like
this wild flowing blonde hair you'll see it on our
Facebook page and something you could always tell he's having
a good time because the majority, vast majority of the
pictures I've seen of this young man when he's smiling,
he had his mouth wide open, like like he's like

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mid laugh or something, and it just it just drew
me to him. I was like, God, that guy seems
like a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, just always in good spirits.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Yes. Yes, So Patrick, like we said, he was getting
in some trouble, kind of going down the wrong path,
prioritizing some of the wrong things. So in two thousand
and eight, when Patrick was fifteen, his parents became worried
and they're really worried about his trajectory, and they sent

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him to Costa Rica to enroll in a program called
outward Bound. Okay, and I look this thing up and
outward Bound it's still around. It's a kind of like
a quasi educational program where students learn values, skills, and
leadership through adventure activities. Okay, that seemed tailor made for

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Patrick Mouthley.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, it's like you're getting that structure without it feeling
like you're you know, you're not sitting in a classroom
being lectured on how to behave it's just giving you
these skills set and responsibilities. Doesn't feel like you're yeah,
it working.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
It kind of unintentionally teaches you how to learn something
and how to be self reliant. And one of the
activities this is this is wild that they did at
Outward Bound. They hyped they're in Costa Rica from the
Caribbean Sea to the Pacific Ocean, and I was like,
how long is that? And they camp out along the way.

(17:28):
They do different activities, but Costa Rica. I was like,
how wid is that one hundred and sixty one miles long?

Speaker 3 (17:38):
That's a trick.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, but but if.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
You love that kind of thing, that's right up your ally.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Well. Not surprisingly, Patrick excelled in this program. He even
became one of the leaders. People started looking up to him.
He got a position with responsibility, kind of something that
he probably needed, and he really did well. So after

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this semester on Outward Bound, Patrick Mothley, he returned to
Mount Pleasant and ended up graduating from Wando High School.
After graduation, he was kind of feeling some things out,
didn't go really directly into college. He worked a lot
around the family farm to care the animals, muck the stables,

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and it mentioned that he did kind of on again,
off again take some classes that try to tech. Maybe
he tried to do that for a semester right after
high school, but like I said, it looked like it
was on again, off again. But his parents really encouraged him.
They said, hey, you gotta do something. I mean, his

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parents were hard working, great people man, and his whole
family was fantastic.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
Fantastic folks say, whether you choose to get a skill
set or a job, or you choose to go to school,
you need to pick something and like make that your priority,
do something with it.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
And they weren't one of these families that were all
about you've got to go to a four year college
or university. They left the door open to go to
a trade school, you know, learn something, but just do something, brother,
you got to do something. Yeah. So finally, in twenty fifteen,
at the age of twenty two, Patrick he made the decision.

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He said, hey, in the fall, I am going to
enroll as a freshman at the College of Charleston, all right,
which was cool. Like I mentioned, he was between two sisters,
both of them were actually already enrolled at college at Charleston. Okay,
so they were going to be able to give him
some tips and tricks and he.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Was introduce them around.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, he was excited. He had a respectful anxiety. I think,
I mean he was like, all right, all right, I'm
going to do this. And I think his dad's quote
was he was stoked about his classes. Yeah, stoked would
have been a word he would have used a lot.
He thought he wanted to study business. That piqued his interest.

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He would attend classes, talk to his professors. He was
super interested and engaged there. But more engaging to him
than his academic career was the social life of college. Now,
as we mentioned, Patrick extremely likable and as always, he

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made a ton of friends quickly. The summer prior to
enrolling in college at Charleston, he had met a group
of friends. It was four guys that he had met
and they became close. So they invited Patrick to be
their fifth roommate and college Charleston. I didn't know this
until researching for the show. But they're one of the

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only colleges in South Carolina that don't require their freshmen
to live in dorms.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh okay, it.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Could be because of limited housing in downtown Charleston, the
expense of housing in downtown Charleston, and how much the
campus is scattered out. Yeah, so these four guys, they
invited Patrick hey Man just so happens we have this
extra room. It was at ninety seven Smith Street. If
you're familiar with Charleston, it's about one hundred feet off

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of Calhoun Street if you're one of my classmates from
back of the Citadel. It was right by where the
old Charleston Pete's Kitchen used to be, like Caddy cornered
from there. And it was in a house typical and
architecture of downtown Charleston, like I think they call them
shotgun houses. Super long. You got the porch or piazza

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on the side there, walk up, you walk right in
the door, and you know, the rooms are scattered about,
but it's almost in a straight line, very long, very
short facade or i'm sorry, fin facade in the front, yes,
in the front of the home. Now, the four guys
that invited Patrick to live with him. They were all

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upper classmen at College of Charleston Juniors seniors, but remember
Patrick got that late start, so they were about the
same age.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, okay, now.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
You're talking about twenty one, twenty two years old. So
this house at ninety seven Smith Street, it soon got
the reputation, maybe it had it before Patrick lived there,
but as a party house. Yeah, and he definitely with
his personality and things he liked to do, added gasoline

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to the fire. I'm sure now it was a real
party house. The man was there. Yes, the house at
Smith Street, it was at to describe as people coming
and going all the time. The door was rarely locked,
and you know, just all the time people, girls, people

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coming to hang out, play Xbox, do whatever.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
At any given time, you probably didn't know how many
people or who was even in your house.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah. Yeah, if you take role, you don't know who's
in there now. As we mentioned, Patrick Key really enjoyed
the party scene. And one of the things that one
of the common occurrences with College at Charleston students. Yeah,
they'd kind of go to the fraternity houses or pregame
kind of at your house. Then they'd go pregame was

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actually the term they used on the show I was
watching about this. But then they'd go down to King Street.
Several bars lining the road there silver Dollar. I know
a lot of those have probably changed names since I
was in those haunts, but a lot of bars up

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and down King Street, and that was the place to
be on Fridays and Saturday nights. If he went to
the college at Charleston. Well, as this partying started to
really ramp up Patrick's family, they became concerned. They started

(24:22):
to notice some changes in him pretty quickly into his
college career. I mean about two months in he kind
of became laxaday school about going to class. It seemed
like his interest in school was waning. And one thing
that put up a red flag in one of his
sister's eyes was that he started to purchase expensive things watches,

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some clothes, flashy stuff, stuff that he shouldn't have been
able to afford.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Because does he have a job at this.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Point besides working on the family farm. I don't think.
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
So. Yeah, then you're like wondering, where's this coming from?
Where are you getting this money?

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yes, Now, one of the drawbacks of going to College
at Charleston. And if you live in the South, you're
going to find this a huge drawback. They live with
football team. Yes, Saturdays in the fall are made for
football in the South. So you got to kind of

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pick a team if you go to one of these schools,
now Citadel, they had a football team. But you're pressured.
You got to pick one here in South Carolina, Clemson
or South Carolina. Which one do you like over the other?
And I'm not really sure where Patrick's allegiances lie laid,
but on November fourteenth, twenty fifteen, Patrick he went to

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Columbia to go to a Carolina game. It's about an
hour and forty five minutes two hours from Charleston, and
it was the USC Florida game. Florida had only lost
one game to that point in the season. Carolina was
three and seven at this point, but Florida ended up
winning the game twenty four to fourteen. That night and

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just after midnight, Patrick Mofley's parents, they received a phone
call from the Richland County Detention Center. Patrick told them
that he had been arrested with eight ounces of cocaine.
Oh yeah, you thought I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Week Yeah, that's where I thought you were going.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Eight ounces of cocaine, and he had been charged with
trafficking cocaine. The eight ounces just fuzzy math. It looked
like it was no I hadn't counted any inflation. It
looked like it was about fourteen thousand dollars street value.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Now, College at Charleston, as we know, we went over
that it was known for partying, drinking, some drugging amongst
student population, but nothing like this. What was even more
concerning was that, of course, the eight ounces of cocaine
were confiscated by Origeland County Sheriff's Department, and it seemed

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that Patrick had been sent to Columbia to sell that
eight ounces of cocaine, and now he did not have
that nor the money to reimburse whoever it was that
had given him that.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
That's a problem.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So we're deep into this story, but we're going to
take a quick break and we're going to come right
back and tell you how events unfolded from here. Folks
will be right back after this quick word from our sponsors.
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Carolina Crimes episode two thirty one or is it two
thirty two thirty two? I'm sorry out of Charleston, South
Carolina and this story about Patrick Mofley and how he
got caught up it seemed like in a bad situation, Well,
it didn't seem like it was. It was a terrible situation.

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Picked up at a South Carolina football game eight ounces
of coke, looked like he was trying to distribute it.
It was enough for Richland County to charge him as
for trafficking, and so his parents, I think they bonded

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him out and you know, brought him back home to
Mount Pleasant well Patrick. He had He had a rough
time with the rest of the semester, but most of
the time he was spending time at the farm. He
was anxious, to say the least, scared, not so much

(31:43):
about the charges that he was facing, but about how
he was going to pay this money back for the
drugs money. Yeah, And I don't really know, and I
don't want any feedback. I don't want anybody to incriminate
themselves elves. But when you send people out to sell

(32:05):
drugs kind of on your behalf. If they do get pinched,
get picked up by the police, do you kind of
give them a little bit of grace or.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I think it depends on the kind of drug dealer
you are.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
Some people have no mercy and there's no excuse and
they're like, I don't care how you get it, but
you lost my product.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
You owe me money.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Yeah, and I mean I've seen it both ways on
I'm going off TV in movies, I mean a good reference,
but like breaking bad and you know, wal okay, so
this guy got robbed. You need to set an example.
And then you got the good fellas. You know, Oh
you your place burned down if you pay me, you
know that kind of stuff. So I guess it depends.

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One of his sisters described Patrick Mofley's feelings as despair fear.
He started to become more and more reclusive, as demeanor change.
Not the boisterous party guy, but really really nervous, really nervous. Now.

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He did officially start the spring semester at College at
Charleston at the beginning of January twenty sixteen, but he
still continued to have trouble making his classes, and by
the end of January, Patrick he ultimately officially just dropped out,
just quick goal. His family became extremely concerned about his

(33:41):
mental health. I mean, he seemed to have an open
dialogue with his parents, but more his siblings as can
be expected. But they all knew, you know, he is
not himself. Something's going on here.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
And they having such a drastic change in your personality.
When you go from just being the life of the
party to keeping to yourself, not really talking to anyone,
that doesn't go unnoticed. Yeah, and it's concerning, you know,
you're like, what something's going on? What can I do
to help?

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Right? And they began to try to look into some
counselors and try to get him some help. But this
one time life of the party was now depressed and
essentially confined himself to his family's farm well. On March first,
twenty sixteen, Patrick's younger sister, who was still attending and

(34:36):
thriving at the College of Charleston, she ran into Chew,
of Patrick's roommates from the Smith Street house. Of of
course they asked. They were like, you know, where is
your brother? I mean kind of how's he doing? But
more of more importantly they said, you know, he's not
answering our calls. We need to talk to him about

(35:00):
money for bills utilities, and he still has a lease with.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Us, something I didn't think about.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
They kind of kind of kind of short changes, saw
some some stuff, and so his sister she ended up
telling Patrick about it and also had a concern. I mean,
she wasn't snitching or anything like that. Talked to their
mom and dad about the situation, and mister Mofley, Patrick's dad,

(35:30):
stand up guy. It reminds me of a lot of
people that have been in my life that I think
a lot of And he insisted, you know, Patrick, you've
got to do the right thing. You left these guys
high and dry. Yeah, you're going through a personal crisis,
but it's not their personal crisis. You need to make
this right. Yeah, you know, how much do you need?

(35:52):
He found out how much it was, wrote the check
and was like, here, Patrick, you're gonna take it to
these guys.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
You know, you need to have a conversation with you Yeah,
you never you can you can salvage his friendships.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, and it's it's the right thing to do. Uh.
So he told Patrick, you know you're gonna go downtown.
You're gonna give these guys the money. So he did,
and his parents expected him to come back that night,
but it seemed like he stayed downtown. You know that
is still his place, Yeah, you know, and probably didn't

(36:29):
want to fight traffic on the bridge or anything like that.
And I get that, you know, it could I think
they lived a little north of Mount Pleasant, to be honest,
and I mean that could be an hour long drive,
and you know, he might have got there. Saw his
friends gave him the money. Everything was cool. They started
having a good time.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah, we're going out today. Why don't you come with you?

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yes, well, the next morning he didn't come home, but
that uh late that afternoon. Now this was March fourth,
It was a Friday. Patrick's mother received probably one of
the worst phone calls, or the worst phone call that

(37:11):
a parent could get. The person on the other line
told her to get the m USC Patrick had been shot. Oh,
and she didn't believe it. She was like, well, are
you sure you know this is I think he even
made a mistake. Yeah, you know, he's he ran down

(37:33):
town to you know, see his friends settle up some
some bills and coming right back. Who would shoot him? No,
I think you got the wrong person. And they said, no,
this is your son, Patrick Mofley. You need to come
down here. And we're going to take another short break

(37:53):
right now and get back into the meat of this
story and the twists and turns only just begun. Folks
will be right back after this quick word from our
sponsors and welcome back to Carolina. Crimes Episode two thirty

(38:29):
two out of Charleston, South Carolina. And when we left off,
Patrick Mofley's mom got the call that he had been shot.
This was late Friday afternoon, March fourth, and now we're
gonna kind of get into what happened in real time. So,

(38:54):
as we mentioned, it was Friday, March fourth, twenty sixteen,
and at three point fifty pm, Charleston Police Department received
a nine to one one call from the house at
ninety seven Smith Street. It was one of Patrick Moffley's
roommates that called. He said he was in his room
playing Xbox. He heard a commotion and then a loud bang.

(39:19):
When he came out of his room to see what
it was, he found Patrick lying at the base of
the stairs there on the inside the home, with a
gunshot wound to his chest. When first responders arrived, they
started to apply pressure to his chest. Patrick was still
conscious and was able to barely give the police valuable information.

(39:46):
First of all, it showed really his sweet spirit that
the first thing he said was to tell his parents
he was sorry. They asked him, they said, who did
this to you? And he was able to say two names.
He said Jordan Piacente and Dollar t they robbed me.

(40:16):
Around his body laying there at the base of the stairs,
there was not only the obvious blood, but littered everywhere
were little white pills, almost a thousand of them, and

(40:36):
a ripped open gallon zip loc bag. The pills they
had the markings on them GG two four nine street
slang known as xanax bars. The street value of those

(40:57):
about seven dollars apiece, so he had about seven thousand
dollars worth of these pills laying around him. The ripped
bag other indicators there. It pointed to the signs of
a struggle or a fight that went down, and they

(41:19):
ended up rushing Patrick, of course, to the nearest hospital
in usc At the hospital the Mofley family, sisters, parents, brother,
they all gathered and Patrick was rushed into surgery at
seven point fifteen. Patrick was pronounced dead just three and

(41:41):
a half hours after being shot. So now the investigation
was on. This was now a homicide. They started looking
into the names. First of all, the only full accurate
name that he could get out was Jordan Piacente, who

(42:04):
was a female Okay, an acquaintance of his, and police
were able to get in contact with her, and she said,
I don't know what you're talking about. I'm in New
York City. Oh okay, And police check this out, and
indeed she was.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
And it's probably coincidental there'd be another person with that
same name.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, that's that's pretty unique. That's pretty unique. But put
a pin in that, okay, said Jordan Piacente. And they
were trying to find out who this guy was that
he said dollar t of course, probably not his birth name.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I wouldn't think so, little street name.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
But they were faced with that task of figuring out
who this was. Investigators they started to question neighbors and
one of the women down the street. She said she
was walking her dog actually at the time of the shooting,
and she said she was walking toward the Smith Street

(43:14):
house and she heard a commotion, some yelling, banging around,
and then finally what she thought was a gunshot ran out.
She told investigators that she saw three males run from
the home, almost like they had just robbed a bank,
like in a movie. Oh. The three men ran and

(43:37):
jumped into a red Volkswagen Jetta. And this lady walking
the dog, she had to wherewithal to say, hey, I
probably need to pay attention to all the details here and.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
This is not a normal situation.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, you don't see this every day in downtown Charleston.
So she looked and she tried to get a tag number,
and the tags were paper dealer tags. So be on
the lookout or a bolow was issued for the Jetta
and police were kind of faced. They had now a
murder investigation that they were going to try to conduct,

(44:17):
and also it looked like a drug investigation with what
was found around Patrick's body.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
And then they're gonna think, is this a drug deal
gone wrong? Is this someone knowing that these people have drugs?
And so this is a house to target? You know,
it's connected.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Is it payback from the cocaine that he Yeah, he
got caught with and lost. So the search of the
house at Smith Street, they were able to get some
valuable information from there. They found one forty five caliber
shell casing in Patrick's room. It did rica marijuana that

(45:05):
was they show that on body camp Someone said, man,
this room marijuana in his room. There was a box
that they found labeled two O eight G times ten.
What investigators were able to determine was that this box

(45:26):
at one time contained ten bags of more than likely
xanax that weighed two hundred and eight grams each. They
found cut up pills in the room. And they also

(45:46):
and here's the tipping point, they found a lease agreement
in the room for a home on Gadson Street. They're
in Charleston. That was signed by one of Patrick's roommates.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Why would that be in his room?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well, you see, the thing was the address on the
lease agreement. It was an address that was familiar to
Charleston police. In fact, very familiar to the Charleston Police
Department's narcotics unit that was currently They currently had that

(46:32):
home under surveillance. Drugs in the Charleston area had been
tracked back to that house. They had reason to believe
that this second house on Gadson Street there was drugs
that included ketamine, LSD, cocaine and xanax. And so police

(46:53):
kind of said, Okay, we've got this. This is maybe
the tip of the iceberg. This looks like this may
be a much larger operation. We suspected. Well, the second house,
or stash house, it was being surveilled by police from
across the street. Actually, they had installed a camera back

(47:17):
in November of twenty fifteen. And the reason they had,
the reason they had to believe in they had authority
to do this, was they heard about this house. They
had an informant in downtown Charleston who actually made a
street by of xanax from someone. The seller was arrested

(47:39):
and interrogated and subsequently gave up his supplier. He said, yeah,
I got the drugs from this house on Gadston Street
from a guy twenty four year old Zachary Kligman. And

(47:59):
this this informant, he laid it all out. He said,
you know, Zachary, he was trafficking cocaine LSD and what
he described as millions of xanax pills. Well, this lease
that they found back in Patrick's room, it provided a

(48:22):
link between Patrick's roommates now because his roommate's signature was
on there and Kligman's stash house during the investigation that evening. Now,
this this murder of Patrick Mofley had made local news
all over the place in Charleston. Well, a longtime friend

(48:45):
of Patrick's, she heard the news and she remembered something
she saw earlier that afternoon, and she called the police
the next day that Saturday, after the murder to report
a suspicious snapchat that he posted. She said, in this snapchat,
I don't know do you call him reels or snaps or.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah on Facebook?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Okay, I don't have the I don't have that, but
she said in this snap that it was of Patrick Mothley.
He snorted a line of cocaine and was posing next
next to several large gallon bags of what appeared to

(49:32):
be Xenax bars, and the caption on it said, maybe
I am the plug, which means, you know, maybe he's
the hook up.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
Yeah, maybe I'm the one that Maybe I'm the dealer. Yeah,
I'm the one people are coming to.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Yes. That post was put on snapchat approximately forty five
minutes before the shooting. Investigators they began to question Patrick's housemates,
especially since finding the lease, and they actually talked one

(50:11):
of the housemates into wearing a wire to go see
this Zachary Kleigman at the stash house. Okay, well he
was successful and actually got audio of Zach talking about
all the drugs that he had at the Gadsden Street
stash house, pounds of marijuana, millions of xen x, and

(50:35):
now police had audio proof so they were able to
move in and make an arrest on Zachary Kleigman. They
informed Once he was arrested and he was brought in,
they informed Zachary of what they knew, the evidence they had. Hey,

(50:56):
we've been watching you, and they said, look, your back's
against the wall, dude, we can maybe work with you
if you cooperate and explain to us exactly what you
got going.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
On, what's happening inside that house.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Well, very smartly in his situation, Kligmann, he cooperated. He said, Okay,
here's how it works. This goes all the way over
to China. Uh, they were shipping raw and I'm probably

(51:37):
not going to pronounce this correct our prosodam our prasadum
powder from China across the Pacific Ocean too, Vancouver, British Columbia,
then over to Montreal and down to South Carolina. Now

(51:58):
it seemed that that content exclues. It seemed like that
was the kind of active ingredient or generic version of
what's found in xen x Okay. Zachary admitted he said,
you know, in my house, you're gonna you're gonna find
a pill press that I used to create these knockoff

(52:20):
xen x bars.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Does it I don't know if you know this personally, obviously,
but does it? Does it have the same effect? It's
just like a cheaper version, you kind of like a
more generic version. Yeah, okay, Like I just didn't know
if they.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Were, you know, and wallfed. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Usually like okay, usually they're like, I didn't know if
they were, like not, they're trying to cut it.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm sure. I mean it wasn't.
I don't know what capacity, Big Pharma, is it, Pfizer
or whoever makes xenx, but I'm sure it was like
emodium ad versus great value ad mm hmm. I mean,
well you know what I'm talking about. So he was

(53:08):
able to make these knockoff xen X bars. And that's
when he started using the College of Charleston students to
his advantage. He used College of Charleston fraternity pledges. He
got fraternities involved in this. And there was an outstanding

(53:31):
book written about this. Let me let me find the
name that was partial a partial source for this, but
it was called Among the Bros. By Max Marshall. No,
he read a book about this.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
This is no, No, it's a I like that title
among the bros.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
But he used these fraternity pledges and the dark web
to then distribute the xenx bars, you know, and they
were ship all over the world going on right there
at the College.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Charleston International Crimes taking place.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yes, now, all of this, as astounding as it was,
there was still really no connection between Zachary Kligman and
the murder of Patrick Mothley. So, like I said, these
are parallel investigations that happened to just be you know,

(54:30):
one person connected all the pieces. So right now we're
gonna take our very last break. I know we're going
along in this, but this is an incredible story. Stick
with us. We'll be right back after this quick word
from our sponsors, and welcome back to Carolina Crimes, Episode

(55:10):
to thirty two out of Charleston, South Carolina. And just
this incredible drug ring and drug distribution plan by this guy,
Zachary Kligman in Charleston. Incredible, but as incredible as it was,

(55:32):
you know, police were happy to find this guy, find
out exactly what he's doing here directly from the horse's mouth,
but they still had a murder investigation, yeah to go
on here. So on March fourth of course, the night
of Patrick Mofley's death, around eleven pm, police in West Ashley.

(56:04):
They saw exactly what they were looking for. It was
the red Volkswagen Jetta paper dealer tags and they said
it might be it might be time to make a
traffic stop here. So the officer did approach the car
and said there was a a huge a smell of marijuana,

(56:31):
very distinct smell, very strong smell, not huge. But now
in the Jetta there was a man driving a woman
in the passenger seat of the car and it was
very obvious they had actually a bag of weed out
on the console in that little malleable place right there
where the gearshift is. They have leather sometimes they're in

(56:53):
the center console had a bag of weed sitting.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Out, hanging out plain sight.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
So the officer when he approached the car, he asked
the two inhabitants, you know, I'm gonna need you to
exit the vehicle. He was able to do this due
to both the car being linked to a murder and
the fact that they had marijuana there. So police did

(57:19):
have the legal right then to tow the car for
the investigation, and the two occupants they were placed under arrest.
It was Semitra. Semetria Wilson was the female, and the
male was twenty one year old Charles Mungen Mungeon the third.

(57:40):
They were placed in separate patrol cars and taken back
to the Cannon, the attention center of the Charleston Police Headquarters,
and the two were separated, put in separate interrogation rooms
and questioned Mungeon's story, he said, you know, he was

(58:04):
off that day, he'd worked at a local restaurant. Him
and some friends. Basically, we're riding around all day hanging out.
But when he was questioned, they said, did you ever
go downtown today? He said, no, absolutely not. Well, Sametria
Wilson's story was a bit different. She said, yeah, we

(58:27):
were riding around all day, we went downtown. We were
a few blocks away from the shooting. We did hear
about that, And she said there were two people that
her friend, Charles Mungen, stopped to pick up. Okay, she
couldn't remember their names, and she admitted she said, you know,

(58:49):
I was Hi, that's Ho's cot. I can't really remember
any of their names, but she said, I remember one
of them had like a double first name, like Ray,
Ray or something. The same name twice. She said, I
remember that, but I can't remember what his name was.
I'm sorry, and that's when she clammed up and said,

(59:14):
you know, before I say anymore, I'd probably like to speak.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
To an attorney.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Well, with both of them, given that amount of evidence,
there wasn't anything to hold them or certainly not to
charge them on. So police did have to release them,
I mean, but they were able to keep the car
for investigation. Inside the car, Mungeon he had two cell

(59:39):
phones on him when he was arrested, and those cell phones,
like they often do on this show, started to tell
a story. There was a phone number in one of
the phones that was saved as bars bars. The phone

(59:59):
number was linked to one Jordan Piasante. I remember. That
was one of the names that Patrick was able to give.
He said Dollar T and Dan.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
And she said she was in New York, Yes, and
she was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
They discovered several texts between Mungeon and Piasante through months.
The text were discussing buying and selling Xanax bars. They
did a cross reference with Patrick Mothley's phone that they

(01:00:40):
found at his home, and in fact, the the the
ten digit phone number that was saved in his phone
under Dollar t was Charles Mungen's phone number, and it

(01:01:01):
seemed that Patrick and Mungon had set up the March
fourth meeting at Smith Street through the texts, so pieces
of this puzzle starting to fit together. Cell Phone pings
were studied, particularly on Charles Mungen's phone, and it proved

(01:01:21):
that he was indeed downtown at the time of the murder.
Nearby surveillance cameras put the Jetta at the scene at
the time when Patrick Mothley was shot. So for all
intents and purposes, they had Mungeon nailed. But who else

(01:01:45):
was in that car? They know Symetria Wilson was, so
they wanted to question her again and okay, we all right,
We got a feeling you know more than you're letting on.
So March seventeenth, Charles Mungen the third or Dollar Tea.
He was arrested and charged with Patrick Mofley's murder. Later

(01:02:08):
it was determined this Jordan Piasante. She was a mutual
friend of both Mungeon and Patrick Mofley. She had introduced
them to each other at a silver Dollar bar. You know,
he was buying and then in turned selling Xanax bars.

(01:02:28):
She was kind of his bar plug or hook up
and hers was Patrick Mofley. Okay, so they her and
Mofley would go downtown and meet up with people and
you know, he'd get them what they needed and sold
to these people at these local bars meaning drinking establishment,

(01:02:50):
not Xanax bars. I don't want to confuse anybody, Okay.
So the two other men, like we mentioned that Samitra
Wilson told police about they were still at large. Police
and they continued to study Mungeon's phone and they looked
at his texts from the day of March fourth, and

(01:03:13):
there was one name in particular that stood out, twenty
two year old John John Glover.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
The same first name.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
M hm, the double first name. Well, police got a
map of the cell phone pings from Glover's phone, and
they actually paired with Mungeon's phone as traveling together and
being together at the Smith Street residence at the time
of the murder. When Cemetrier Wilson, she was showing a

(01:03:48):
picture of Glover. She said, yes, he was with us,
and there's probably more I need to tell you. They
were like, yeah, no kidding, girl. She said that afternoon
they were riding around, she had gotten high, she had
fallen asleep in the Jetta and she woke up when
she heard a loud bang. She woke up, she saw

(01:04:12):
John John Glover, her friend Charles Munchen, and another man
running to the car as fast as they could, carrying
a bunch of bags of pills. Also one of Patrick's roommates,
when he was showed a picture of John John Glover,
he identified him as well. Okay Glover. He was finally

(01:04:38):
arrested February sixteenth of twenty seventeen, and he was charged
with accessory after the fact of murder various drug charges.
He was cooperative. He pled guilty in December of twenty
nineteen and got a fifteen year sentence suspended to seven
years and five years probation. So he claimed responsibly he said, yeah,

(01:05:03):
I was there, this is what went down. Charles shot him.
Charles munchon the third. He was charged with murder and
armed robbery and his trial was set for September of
twenty nineteen. So a couple months before Patrick's roommates police
knew you know that that was assigned. Lease, things aren't

(01:05:28):
really jiving. We think you guys probably know more than
you're letting on. Yeah, so his roommates were subpoened in
court and in their depositions they provided some pretty disturbing details.
And this is it's sickening. They admitted that before calling

(01:05:53):
nine one one now it said one roommate was there,
and then they used the pronoun they, and so it
was a little fuzzy as to who exactly was in
the home when this all went down. But nevertheless, before
calling nine to one one, whoever whatever combination of roommates
were in the home, they went to their own rooms

(01:06:16):
and cleared out all the drugs they had, and they
ran and they went into a neighbor's backyard to hide
the job, to hide the drugs before they ever called.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
They're more concerned about themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
They were more concerned about saving their own skin than
getting this human being that their friend am using air quote,
their friend that was laying there dying on the floor,
getting him help. In court, the state's narrative was that
Charles Munngon had set up the meeting with Patrick specifically

(01:07:01):
to rob him. Okay, what happened was that a fight
ensued when Mungen tried to rob him of remember the
snapchat with all those bags of pills lined up, he
was gonna grab those and run but a fighting suit
and Patrick wanting to push over. Do you remember he

(01:07:22):
was so active in all these extreme sports and muscular
dude that he'd been in a scrap or two before
he knew how to handle himself, let's say that. So
what probably happened was Munging bit off a little more
than he could chew there trying to rob this kid.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Looked at it thinking that this kid's going to be
an easy target, will be in and out, he's not
gonna do anything, and come to find out, he was
absolutely wrong about that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, he wasn't that dude, I'm not the one. Yeah.
So unfortunately that led to Mungeon pulling out a gun
shooting him in the chest. A bullet went into his
chest cavity went down through his liver, causing extensive organ damage,

(01:08:14):
which which led to his death. Charles Munchen the third
he was found guilty of murder and armed robbery and
he was sentenced to life in prison. And to this day,
the other man that was in the car has not
been identified. Really, so that tied a bow on the

(01:08:44):
Patrick Mofley murder and h That leaves the business of
this Zachary Kligman and this drug empire that he created
at College of Charleston. Eventually, his home, along with several
storage units that he or others had rented in his name,

(01:09:05):
were rated. Police were able to recover two hundred and
fourteen thousand dollars in cash, seven hundred and thirty four
grams of cocaine, seven guns, including semi automatic AR fifteens,
ninety grams of hash, one point two grams of LSD,

(01:09:29):
three point five acid sheets. I've heard LSD comes in sheets.
I don't. I don't really know the ins and outs
of that, two thy, four hundred and eighty six grams
of marijuana, twelve ecstasy pills, one hundred and thirty four
point eight grams of molly, and forty three thousand, two

(01:09:53):
hundred and forty two xanax pills.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Wow, twenty four years old, You got that kind of
empire going on?

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
What well? He had other people to do his bidding.
In total, nine arrests were made, of course, Zachary Kleigman
aged twenty four, Michael Schmidt aged twenty one, Robert Lelszeberg
twenty two, Benjamin Nous twenty three, John Reems nineteen, Daniel

(01:10:24):
Katco twenty five, Christopher Slicker twenty two, Samantha Hanks twenty six,
and Jake post Check twenty one all got charged with
a combination of trafficking, distribution, possession with intent to distribute
for these drugs. Various sentences were handed out, a lot

(01:10:48):
of them credit for time served. A lot of these
people of first defense. But Zachary Kleigman, this is kind
of shocking because of his cooperation and first offense with
some of these serious charges. God, he must have a
good lawyer. He received five years suspended for a credit

(01:11:12):
for time served seventy five days in two years probation.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
That's that's lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
That's really lucky.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
He better take that second opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Yeah, he better fly straight, buddy, get his shit together.
Yeah you said it. Yeah, that's shocking. If I don't
know what kind of lawyer he had, I don't know
what kind of deal he made. But man, there's some
people that would face life for that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
But have and yeah and have h Now, the College
of Charleston, I got to give them their flowers. They
did the right thing. They beefed up security around campus,
provided needed drug counseling. Uh. Whatever, grief counseling needed to
be done. They made students take mandatory drug courses. Uh.

(01:12:14):
They did the best they could do with that spread
out college population. Uh. Patrick Mothley continues to be remembered
very fondly by friends, his family as well. His family
actually commissioned a dive site in Costa Rica, a scuba

(01:12:36):
diving site with a plaque down there commemorating his life,
his birthday, death date, full name and in the dives
the dive site is named Patrick Stash. I like that,
as we mentioned, Uh, great resources on this the book
Among the Bros by Max Marshall. He read this story

(01:13:00):
like I've got to tell the tale a lot like
Operation Jackpot. Yeah, that recovered back a couple of years
ago now. And also ABC their production that was called
Death in the Dorms. They were able to interview friends
family of Patrick just how much he meant and one
thing that Max Marshall said in an interview that really

(01:13:24):
hit home. And I'm going to close with this. I
know this one went super long, but to Patrick, you know,
yes he liked to party. Yes he did the wrong
thing by getting We're not romanticizing what he did in
any way. It's wrong. And I don't think his family

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is either. They're just trying to remember the best part
of Patrick. But it was almost Max Marshall said, it's
almost like he was looking for another adventure in Hey,
we're making a lot of money, we're doing this, this
is exciting, there's adrenaline rushit. Oh my gosh if we

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get caught, or hey, I'm doing this. Actually he compared
that with like Charles Mungen, who sold drugs on the street.
He was going to like a junior college. I think
try it. I mean, I can only assume working at
the restaurant pushing these drugs. You know, Mungon did it

(01:14:32):
for survival, but Mofley was doing it for adventure.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
It's like he's adrenaline junkie.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
Yes, And those two worlds didn't really mix. And when
somebody's doing something for survival, he said, that's when violence
enters and you're gonna you're gonna carry that out your
survival by any means necessary. Yeah, So unfortunately those two

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worlds collided. Jordan Piacente, besides being a mutual acquaintance, she
had nothing to do with us, Let's make that clear.
Besides introducing the two and you know. Yes, she did
some bad so she was kind of the hook up
for getting xen x bars. I'm not I'm not painting

(01:15:20):
her as a saint, but she had nothing to do
with his murder. She was a piece to the puzzle.
But this is just it's ad that he went to college,
got hooked up with the wrong folks, started doing the
wrong thing, got intoxicated by the money it sounded like,

(01:15:42):
and intoxicated by the thrill. Yeah, intoxicated by the thought of, hey,
the maybe I am the plug in the clout, and
unfortunately his life was cut short. Seemed like an awesome life. Yeah,
And his mother even said, you know, the other unfortunate

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part of this too is Charles Munchum's twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Yeah. They were all young.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yeah, and that whole list of names. I mean, it
doesn't seem like they got serious time for what they
were doing. But I mean, man, it could have been
any one of them, any one of those names that
I yeah, I mentioned, any one of those folks could
have been killed. So if you're going to engage in
that kind of lifestyle, man, you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:32):
Understand turn it around. Yeah, what's it's not like?

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
And even when you watch it on the movies, and
you know, you're like, oh, it seems thrilling, but it's
it might be spilling to watch it, like on a
TV show or a movie, but to be in it,
I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't make it, but I
would be very fearful, you know, I'd be I mean,
I would feel like I would constantly be looking over
my shoulder, whether it be if I owed someone money

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or if it's a police officer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
It's just this constant and some people we'll thrive off
of that. I do not.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
I don't do And like I said, the romanticizing of it,
like that's why I love like the first three quarters
of Good Fellas. M h. Yeah, it's a great story.
But then Henry Hill gets caught up in that cocaine
seeing helicopters. At that part, I'm like, okay, I know
what happens. That's I'm turning it off.

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Yeah, it got weird.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, and then like blow with Johnny Depp. Okay, okay,
so you're with Penelope Cruise now now it's a by
the time. Yeah, the good times are over, pal Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:17:31):
Like you watch it, yeah, you watch it up to
the point where it is romanticized. But then when the
reality comes in of people getting getting pinched and getting
knocked down, you're like, yeah, that's not that's not that
fun anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
That's not for me. Not for me though, But uh,
I appreciate you listening to this one. It was, like
I said, a wild tale. Yeah, two parallel investigations out
of the College of Charleston.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
This one never clicked. I never I have not heard
of this. I don't know how. It's pretty recent, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Twenty sixteen, and I mean there's a lot more or
in depth. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Check out that book by Max Marshall. Promise you won't
be disappointed. I promise you wont among the bros.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
And just knowing it's college kids and yeah young and
they're to have that just I don't know, like just
that power that little empire at that age is just incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
I don't. I had some kind of air of invincibility
and entitlement at that age, but I guess I was
just dumb. But yeah, I kind of still am. But
for them to actually go through with it and this
international tour, I mean, talk about the raw materials coming

(01:18:46):
from China up through Canada traffic down to Charleston. I mean,
what in the world, how do you know how to
do that?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
And how do you end up here? Of all places?
But you know, how do you where do these connections
come from? I don't know anybody in China, No, I
don't think so un that's the one I used to know.
Move there and I don't know about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
But we have some listeners, yeah, in China, so I
don't really know if they understand what we're saying. But
we appreciate you all too, Yeah chip In, let's know
to our Chinese federation of fans. But thank you all
so much for listening this week's episode. Next week, you know,

(01:19:26):
we're going to bring you another one and we're coming
through from the Midlands. Is that correct? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
I believe so is it in the Midlands?

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I have to think, okay, well yeah, just south of
the Midlands.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
Yeah, it's like southeast of Columbia, Calhoun County. Okay, we'll
flow that out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Yes, I'm trying.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
To decide if it's considered the Midlands territory or for
venturing you know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
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We're gonna have a lot of shout outs and thank you.
So they've been building up for a couple of weeks.
We'll take care of that next week. Since this one
was so long, probably should have been two episodes, but yeah,
along listen this.

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