April 9, 2023 • 40 mins
Angie Mantlo had a close relationship with Tyler Howell, 21, who was her oldest son. Tyler and his family lived in Milton, Florida. Angie said Tyler was a young man who had maintained many of his childhood friendships and he never got out of his terrible twos. She described him as rambunctious and goofy, but he had a heart of gold.
According to media reports, Tyler’s death unfolded on October 21, 2018. Tyler and his cousin went to local gas station for cigarettes late that Sunday night. They climbed into his cousin’s blue Chevy Cruz. After buying cigarettes, Tyler and his cousin returned home from the store. On their way back from the gas station the cousins were followed to Tyler’s John Hamm Road residence by several Black males driving in Silver Kia Optima.
Tyler then exited his cousin’s car and got into the Kia with the men. Afterward, one of the men left the Kia and pointed a gun at Tyler’s cousin and ordered her to get out of the car. After she left her vehicle, the unknown man drove away with her car as the Kia also drove off with Tyler inside.
Moments later, Tyler was shot to death and left alongside the road. The Kia and the Blue Chevy Cruz have both been recovered.
The Kia is owned by a man named Keyairis Hawkins, who is currently incarcerated on unrelated charges. The Chevy Cruz has also been traced to a shooting in Pensacola.
Tyler’s mother thinks it’s possible her son knew one of his killers. She thinks it’s a possibility that he may have tried to sell marijuana to the men but she doesn’t know for sure. Today, all the family has left of Tyler are his memories and a roadside memorial in his honor. Tyler was laid to rest at Hickory Hammock Church Cemetery.
For this story, I spoke to Angie Mantlo, who is Tyler’s mother. She told me the grief she feels is unbearable and the holidays and birthdays are the worst. I had read that Angie visited her son’s grave daily just to speak to him. I asked her if that was true. She said it was true and that she also drives past the site of Tyler’s homicide regularly. The Santa Rosa Sheriff’s Office is hopeful they are able to uncover DNA that could lead to Tyler’s killer.
Angie Mantlo has said she hope that someone will step up and do what’s right for Tyler and break their code of silence. She knows there are several people out there who have the answers the family need to see justice for Tyler. If you have any information about this case, please contact the Santa Rosa County Crime Stoppers number at 850-437-STOP.
Please also visit my website for more information about my true crime and paranormal newspaper columns at www.themarcabe.com. You can also help support my podcast by purchasing a cup of $5 coffee every month. To help support the podcast, please visit https://www.buymeacoffee.com/catchmykiller. If you would like to contact me about this podcast, please visit my websites www.catchmykiller.com or www.themarcabe.com where you can submit a case.
According to media reports, Tyler’s death unfolded on October 21, 2018. Tyler and his cousin went to local gas station for cigarettes late that Sunday night. They climbed into his cousin’s blue Chevy Cruz. After buying cigarettes, Tyler and his cousin returned home from the store. On their way back from the gas station the cousins were followed to Tyler’s John Hamm Road residence by several Black males driving in Silver Kia Optima.
Tyler then exited his cousin’s car and got into the Kia with the men. Afterward, one of the men left the Kia and pointed a gun at Tyler’s cousin and ordered her to get out of the car. After she left her vehicle, the unknown man drove away with her car as the Kia also drove off with Tyler inside.
Moments later, Tyler was shot to death and left alongside the road. The Kia and the Blue Chevy Cruz have both been recovered.
The Kia is owned by a man named Keyairis Hawkins, who is currently incarcerated on unrelated charges. The Chevy Cruz has also been traced to a shooting in Pensacola.
Tyler’s mother thinks it’s possible her son knew one of his killers. She thinks it’s a possibility that he may have tried to sell marijuana to the men but she doesn’t know for sure. Today, all the family has left of Tyler are his memories and a roadside memorial in his honor. Tyler was laid to rest at Hickory Hammock Church Cemetery.
For this story, I spoke to Angie Mantlo, who is Tyler’s mother. She told me the grief she feels is unbearable and the holidays and birthdays are the worst. I had read that Angie visited her son’s grave daily just to speak to him. I asked her if that was true. She said it was true and that she also drives past the site of Tyler’s homicide regularly. The Santa Rosa Sheriff’s Office is hopeful they are able to uncover DNA that could lead to Tyler’s killer.
Angie Mantlo has said she hope that someone will step up and do what’s right for Tyler and break their code of silence. She knows there are several people out there who have the answers the family need to see justice for Tyler. If you have any information about this case, please contact the Santa Rosa County Crime Stoppers number at 850-437-STOP.
Please also visit my website for more information about my true crime and paranormal newspaper columns at www.themarcabe.com. You can also help support my podcast by purchasing a cup of $5 coffee every month. To help support the podcast, please visit https://www.buymeacoffee.com/catchmykiller. If you would like to contact me about this podcast, please visit my websites www.catchmykiller.com or www.themarcabe.com where you can submit a case.
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Hello, and welcome to the CatchMy Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.
My name is Mark. For nearlyeight years, I've written a weekly
newspaper column about true crimes and missingpeople for the CLAREMONTSA newspaper in Ohio.
With the column and podcast, myobjective has been to bring attention to the
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cases of those who haven't received muchmedia attention, if any. This week's
on Saul Thomas side occurred on Octobertwenty first, twenty eighteen, one of
twenty one year old Milton, Floridaman named Tyler Howe was abducted and shot
the death after returning home from atrip with his cousin to buy cigarettes.
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After he was abducted, his cousinwas held at gunpoint and forced from her
car. Her car was then stolen. The car that Tyler was forced into
and his cousin's car were both recovered. Over four years of past and no
one has been arrested for Tyler's homicide. His family still waits for justice.
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Angie Mandelow had a close relationship withTyler Howe, twenty one, who was
her oldest son. Tyler and hisfamily lived in Milton, Florida. Tyler
also had two younger siblings who lovedhim and missed him to this day.
Angie told me that Tyler always wantedto become a dad because he loved children
so much. She saddened that henever got the chance to become a father
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or an uncle. She said thatTyler was a young man who had maintained
many of his childhood friendships and henever got out of his terrible two's.
She described him as rambunctious and goofy, but she did say he had a
heart of goal. According to mediareports, Tyler's death unfolded on the evening
of October twenty first, twenty eighteen. Tyler and his cousin went to a
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local gas station for cigarettes late thatSunday night. They climbed into his cousin's
blue Chevy Cruise. After buying cigarettes, Tyler and his cousin returned home from
the store. On their way backfrom the gas station, the cousins were
followed to Tyler's John Hamm Road residenceby several black males driving in a silver
Kia Optima. Tyler then exited hiscousin's car and got into the Kia with
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the men. Afterward, one ofthe men left the Kia and pointed a
gun at Tyler's cousin and ordered herto get out of the car. After
she left her vehicle, the unknownman drove away with her car, as
Zakia also drove off with Tyler stillinside. Moments later, Tyler was shot
at death and left alongside the road. His family believes that he had fought
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back against his abductors, but thefamily isn't sure why Tyler was abducted and
killed. Since Tyler's homicide, lawenforcement has released photos of at least one
of the suspects as he stood insidethe gas station. The Kia and the
blue Chevy Cruise have also both beenrecovered. The Kia is owned by a
man named Kieris Hawkins, who iscurrently incarcerated on unrelated charges. The Chevy
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Cruise has since been traced to ashooting in Pensacola. It would appear that
Hawkins should be considered a suspect inTyler's homicide, but so far no charges
have been filed against him. Tyler'sfamily has concerns that Hawkins will be released
before he can be connected to Tyler'shomicide. Tyler's mother thinks that it's possible
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that her son knew at least oneof the killers. She also thinks it's
possible that he may have even triedto sell marijuana to the men, but
she doesn't know for sure. Shehas told me that she hasn't received any
information from law enforcement about the case. Today. All the family has left
of Tyler are his memories and aroadside memorial and his honor. He was
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laid to rest at hit greyh HammockChurch Cemetery. For this story, I
spoke to Angie Mantelow, who isTyler's mother. She told me the grief
that she feels is unbearable and theholidays and birthdays are the worst. I
had read that Angie visited her son'sgrave daily just to speak to him.
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I asked her if that was true. She said it was true, and
she also drives past the site ofTyler's homicide often. The Santa Rosa Sheriff's
Apartment is hopeful that they will beable to uncover DNA that could lead to
Tyler's killers. According to law enforcement, they need someone who is willing to
provide a crucial tip that will leadto Tyler's killers. Although law enforcement has
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recovered the KIA associated with the crime, and they also have photos of the
suspects. It's not enough to makeany arrests. And now on with the
story of Tyler Howe is told byhis mother and v Mandelow. He was
born in May of nineteen ninety seven. May fifth. He was what you
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call it, I can't even thinkof it, the Mexican holiday May fifth?
Now, what is it called?Yeah, I know that holiday,
I just can't recall what it wascalled. Wait. He was born in
Milton, Florida, and at SantaRosa Hospital and they told me whenever I
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got to four centimeters that I wouldget an epidural or some pain medicine.
Well, with this kid, Idid not get no pain medicine. He
come so quick. He went fromthree centimeters to ten centimeters and just seconds
and he come out. And itwas the best thing ever. I don't
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even know how to explain it,but it was just awesome. He was
what made me a mom and wherehe got a little older. Always said
that he was going to grow outof his terrible twos, and he never
did. He was so rambunctious.Everybody kept telling me, you need to
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see if he needs ADHD medicine.Even in school, he was rambunctious.
He was always the class clown,always had to make people laugh. Even
when he got older, he wasthe same way. Was Tyler your firstborn?
Yes, he was my firstborn.Yes, we ended up moving.
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We were living in Leino, Floridaafter I had him, and then I
got pregnant with my daughter. They'relike a year and seven months apart,
and he was so happy he wasgonna be a big brother. He loved
his sister, and even when theygot older, they were inseparable. They
were like tips in a pod,but totally different because he was just so
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rambunctious. He was still that waywhenever he was a teenager. He couldn't
sit still. He loved Pokemon.He played Pokemon. Me and him used
to play Pokemon on the little gameboy thing and we were really close.
And once he got older he wasinto Narto. I don't know the anime.
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Yeah, he was all into Narto. He had books every Birthday,
Christmas, everything, you know.Every time I got him to him,
I got him a book of Narto. He had a book. He pretty
much hung around with his three bestfriends that he went to elementary Ellen up
to high school with He always wantedto go to Japan because he was so
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into Narto. He wanted to seewhat Japan was like, he said.
Whenever he got out of high school, he wanted to go to Japan.
Well, Japan is known for puttingout really great animation. Yeah, he
loved it. He was really intothat. He never graduated. He ended
up dropping out. He got hisfirst job whenever he turned seventeen. He
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ended up working at a crane operatingplace where his biological father worked there and
got him a job. And he'snot in the picture set up. Police
don't add him to any of this. But that was his first job.
So he was seventeen and found himselfa crane operator job. Why did he
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leave school? He was never reallyinto school. He ended up going to
a school they called Raiders, andhe ended up getting out of school.
I don't know why he dropped outof school. So school wasn't really his
thing then, Yeah, what didn'tsay when he dropped out of school he
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was going to go get him ajob. Well he did, he got
him a job, and then afterthat job, he ended up working at
a construction place laying brick. Andthen I guess he quit that job and
then he ended up working with mydad and his hall. He was a
painter and he was good at it. He liked it, So then he
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ended up going to work with hisbest friend. His brother owned a painting
business, and that was his lastjob before he was taken. So construction
type work, is that something thatTyler wanted to do or did it just
happen to be the type of workhe was able to find. He loved
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it even, Yeah, he lovedit. He liked to be a hie.
Yeah. He liked to climb.That was just him. He wanted
to climb up high. He alwaysstayed up in trees and go outside looking
for Raymond. He's up in atree. But yeah, he liked to
stay up high. So it soundinglike he really stayed busy. Yes,
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he is always dizzy. Based onwhat I've read, when Tyler was about
eighteen or nineteen, he got intodrugs. Can you tell me if that's
true or tell me about the extentof his drug use. He smoked his
weed, did not like it.Every time he'd be out in the yard,
I'd smell it, and I'm like, you better not be smoking in
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the yard. Yeah, he smokedhis weed, and we did not allow
it at the house. I didn'twant him doing it, and to begin
with, because I'm not the typeof person that smoked, and him and
his cousin, they would always gooff and you could smell it on him.
You know, he did it.So he just smoked marijuana. That's
pretty common with a lot of people. I don't really see a major issue
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with that, right, And Ireally don't know if there was any other
drugs involved. I've never seen him, never heard of it, but I
know he did smoke weeds, andhe hung around people that smoke weed.
And that's the only drugs that they'reeven talking about was weed. I didn't
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see any mention of anything serious likeheroin or cocaine. So what's that being
said? I just assumed with hisage, it was probably just weed anyway.
Yeah, I mean, not thetype of drug activity that's going to
get him into serious trouble with thelaw or anything like that. Yeah,
exactly. Now, did your sonhave any type of legal issues? Well,
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he did. He spent nine monthsin jail he was sixteen, I
believe, and him and some friendswent into an abandoned trailer and he broke
a window and his blood was inthere, so they found DNA. So
he ended up spending nine months injail. But he was stupid teenagers.
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Sure, we know all about youngpeople doing stupid things. I mean I
did it, and you probably didwhen you were younger. You know,
maybe we just didn't get caught,right. Well, if he did something,
he was going to get caught.Yeah, he was something else.
So what kind of friends did Tylerhang out with? Can you tell me
about some of the friendships that hemaintained. The people he hung out was
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his friends that he grew up with. He was always with his friends.
They all come over the house.They were a little bitty growing up,
and he stayed hanging out with them, and he hung out with his cousin.
And I've never seen anybody that wasbad, Like I didn't want him
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hanging out with, you know,like thugs. I've never seen. But
when he gets off with his friendsor he goes parties, I don't know
who he met. He knew alot of people and people that I didn't
even know he knew. Well,I can admit as a parent that our
kids don't always tell us about theirfriends or who they hang out with.
So that's pretty common among people anyway. I didn't always tell my parents who
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I hung out with exactly. Youdon't always know who your kids are hanging
out with. Yeah, well,they definitely keep some things from their parents.
That's all kids. Oh yeah,So when was the last time that
you spoke to your son? Tellme about that day. Tell me about
your last conversation with him, orwhich you can remember of it. The
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day that he was taken with Octobertwenty first, it was on a Sunday
and I had to go to workthat morning, and we were texting back
and forth. He was talking abouthow he was going to get an apartment
and he was gonna stay with someof his friends. Him and his friends
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was gonna get an apartment. Toldme, you know, ask me if
I knew anybody had an apartment.And I was like, that'd be good.
Get out and get you an apartment. You're twenty one. And well,
that night I got home from work, he easily goes outside and talks
on his phone, and every phonehe has had it was busted, cracked.
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You couldn't see nothing on it.You did see a glare. Well,
he was standing on the porch andI opened the door and he was
on his phone and I was like, well, you coming inside. He
said yeah, Mom. He saysI love you, and I said I
love each tone and I shut thedoor. And that was about ten o'clock
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and that was last time I sawhim. I went to bed because my
husband in his back was hurting,and so I was putting a compress on
his back and I fell asleep,and the next thing I knew of my
niece that was with him ran inthe house off and was screaming to somebody
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stoulder car. And that's all Iheard. And I got up. Me
and my husband got up and we'relike, what what's going on? And
all we heard was somebody stolder car. Well, I was like, okay,
who stole your car? Her andmy son went to the store and
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they went to get some cigarettes andthey come back and pulled in the driveway
and somebody pulled in behind him,and she said that the guy got out,
stuck a gun to her, wentto the side of the car,
stuck a gun to her head andtold her get the fuck out of the
car and told her to take offget out. So he took the car
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and my son got out. Idon't know really but the whole story,
but he got in the car thatwas behind her car, and they took
off down the road and stole hercar. So did the guy who stole
her car know your son? Idon't know. The only thing I know
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is what my niece told me thathe got out and said he was going
to sell them some weed. Sohe got in the car with them,
I guess, to sell them theweed and they took off. So why
did they steal his cousin's car.To this day, I don't know.
I don't know why they stold hercar. But yeah, they took off
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down the road about a moll downthe road from my house. They shot
and killed him, shot him multipletimes. And the person that lived close
to where he was shot, theyheard like firecrackers going off and heard people
yelling and screaming, and I heardthe sound like firecrackers going off. It
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sounds to me like he was putout of the car and then executed.
Is that what happened? Yes,And I did not know this at the
time. I'm sitting in my housecomforting her because she was pregnant, and
she says somebody stole her car,and then finally she says, Tyler's with
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them, and I'm like, excuseme, Tyler's where? And my heart
dropped. And my husband and mybrother in law went down the road and
there was cop and everything down theroad, and they wouldn't let him get
close. They just said somebody's beenshot. My husband come back to the
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house and said, somebody's been shot. I don't know who it is.
My heart just dropped and I startedrunning down the road and it was cold
out too, and I had apair of shorts on, those shoes on
a little tiptop on, and I'mrunning down the road and my youngest son's
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like, Mom the car. SoI run back to the house, get
in the car and go down there. And I just knew. I knew
it was him. It wouldn't letme get to him, but I can
see him onside the road doing cprAngie would soon learn some heartbreaking news that
would stay with her for the restof her life. She would learn that
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her firstborn son, Tyler, theyoung man she called ram Voches, goofy
and lovable, was murdered just downthe roof from his home. She never
imagined a trip to a local gasstation for cigarettes would lead to her son's
death. We'll take a short breakand return with Angie's comments on Tyler's final
night alive. So, as amother, in your natural instincts, you
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knew that the victim had to havebeen your son. I knew it him.
Yeah, how did you find outthat it was definitely him that was
shot to death. My husband wastalking to the cops, and the cops
finally told him who it was.They identified it was Tyler Lee Howell,
and I just dropped to the groundbecause they wouldn't let me get to him.
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They wouldn't let me get close tohim. But the ambulance they go
by real so I was like,well, well, Hofs throw would go
into and nobody would tell me anything. They weren't taking him to the hospital,
they were taking him to the morgue. Yeah, they wouldn't tell me
anything, and my heart just dropped. I dropped to the ground. I
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couldn't move. That was the worstday in my life. I don't think
I can imagine a pain worse thanlosing a childs I've always thought that has
to be the worst pain that anyparent could experience. Ever, yeah,
it is, And I'm assuming therewas an autopsy, and if so,
what did you learn from it?He was shot multiple times? Who was
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shot in his chest and upper leg. That's the only thing that I know
right now. They don't give usa full autopsy report until they closed case.
Now, based on how many timeshe was shot, it sounds like
someone was really angry with your son, and that almost sounds personal. So
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to me, this probably wasn't arandom thing. He probably knew the person
that shot him, Yeah, exactly. So tell me what was going through
your mind as you were trying tofigure out what happened to your son.
I had no clue. I keptasking everybody who you know who it could
have been. They even have picturesof the people, They have video,
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they have pictures, They have thecars, they have the owner of the
car. He's in prison on anunrelated charge. I've been taught to my
own detective work of how he knewthem, and I can't figure it out.
Well, perhaps they sold each othersome weed at some time or another
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exactly, but I don't know when, how where he met at with him
before. Well, that's probably oneof the people that your son probably knew
but never told you about, right, But you know, they had to
be introduced somehow. I don't knowhow they met. I don't know how
it got to him meeting that's whatthey did. They met at the store,
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or they ran into each other atthe store, I don't know,
but they followed them back from thestore, That's my thing. I don't
know from that point, I don'tknow the motive. The only thing I
could think of is he didn't havethe weed on him that he had to
get it as we didn't allow it, so he had to hide it.
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Based on what I've found in socialmedia, it's been stated that the motivation
was likely drugs. Do you believethat? I believe it. I believe
that. But my thing is,how did he know him? Now?
What can you tell me about theguy who owns the Kia. I saw
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that they recovered his car and heis incarcerated. What's going on with this
guy? I mean it was hiscar, so he was either in the
car or if he wasn't, heshould know what was going on in his
car if he loaned it to someoneexactly. So, how come this guy
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hasn't been charged with being involved inyour son's death. I've been asking myself
that for four years now, thechanne As the Sheriff's department has done nothing
but gave me a runaround. Forfour years, they have been the worst.
They never gave me a victim's advocatebecause I didn't know what to do.
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I had no clue. My sonwas just murdered and I had to
pay for his funeral. I hadto pay for everything, and I think
I was treated unfairly and they don'tgive a damn. It's also a possibility
that your son's case, well,he's being judged. Perhaps the cops were
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looking at it like, well,this is just another dead drug dealer,
regardless if he was just selling weedor buying in it's hardly worth being chilled
over. And your son still deservesjustice over weed. And what I find
unique about your case is that you'vealready got one of the people that's possibly
involved already in jail. You didrecover his vehicle, and you also have
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a photograph of at least one ofthe people involved. A lot of families
I speak to, they don't evenhave a vehicle, they don't have photographs,
they have absolutely nothing. But yourcase actually has a starting point.
I even asked the detective that wason the case. I even asked them
if they can work with pair bondlaughs that does genetic DNA. They'll get
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like a picture of something and getthe person kin to that person so they
can find out who it is.They denied it. What kind of DNA
does law enforcement have? Do youknow? I don't know. They haven't
told me anything. They kept givingme a runaround, telling me they have
so much evidence, they have this, they have that they have nothing because
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they haven't done anything in almost fiveyears. How long did it take for
law enforcement to recover the Kia afteryour son was killed? A week?
Okay, so let me ask aboutthe owner of the Kia, Hawkins.
I'm assuming that he was not inprison when your son was killed. Is
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that correct? No, he wasnot in prison at the time. They
told me that they snatched the phonefrom somebody and they have phone evidence and
all this other crap, but nothinghas been done. I can't even get
them to identify the person in thevideo the picture. How many men did
your niece see in the car?Now, she didn't know how many,
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but there was at least three orfour because my son would throw hands.
He had some big ass hands andhe could fight, so they had to
have two of them in the backto hold him back there or have you
know? And one of them hadto be driving, and one of them
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had to be driving another car.And your niece's car was eventually recovered correct,
Yes, and how long did thattake the same time it was involved
in another shooting her car was Yeah. Now, I'm sure that there had
to have been evidence inside her car. Oh, they said there was no
evidence. The car was white,clean, like it was brand new.
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But they have both cars. Now, did law enforcement find any of your
son's blood in the Kia? Butthey tell me he wasn't shot in the
car? So then are you sayingthat they made him get out of the
car and then they shot him.That's what I'm assuming because I kept asking
if there was any evidence, anyblood, anything. They wouldn't tell me
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anything. They wouldn't give me anything. They gave me the name of that
person that owned the car, andthat was it. Now, have you
ever tried speaking to the owner ofthe Kia? Have you ever tried to
visit him while he's incarcerated and askedfor answers? No, No, I
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haven't. My husband won't let medo that. Nope. I tried to
get the detective and he kept sayingthat he was everything, COVID come through
and all this other bullshit. Yeah, every time it was something. Well,
the cops have definitely spoken to himby now. Perhaps he just isn't
being truthful or he's just not willingto speak to them. But think about
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it, what are you gonna do, just loan your car to someone and
they're going to go out and shootsomeone and you didn't know anything about it,
or you weren't there. People don'ttend to loan their cars too often
to other people exactly. Well,then if he does know anything, he
hasn't said anything because there hasn't beenany arrests or any movement on this case.
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So whatever he does know or doesn'tknow, he's obviously not telling anyone
about it. Yeah. Yeah,hasn't said anything. So how often do
you contact law enforcement and ask forupdates? Once a month? Yeah,
I contact him once a month.They don't have anything to tell me his
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case has gone cold. Well,it's difficult for me and probably people familiar
with the case to understand how thiscase could be cold because you have the
owner of the car, and youhave the car exactly. That is what
they tell me. His case isgone cold. They even had a cold
case people come through here in Miltonand was working on his case and nothing.
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I didn't get anything out of that. I've had him on Project Cold
Case. They even put him ina deck of card and we haven't got
anything. Now, have you everrequested a meeting with the chief of police?
Now, me and my husband isfixing to do that because we've done
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contacted the new detective that's on thecase and he keeps telling us nothing.
He has nothing. So me andmy husband's fixing to sit down with this
Bob Johnson whoever. Well, yourealize to keep this case in the public
eye, you're gonna have to constantlycontact law enforcement, your local politicians,
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and of course the media, thenewspapers, your news channels. You're gonna
have to do that just to keepyour son's name out there so that people
don't forget about this crime. Yeah. I've done that too. I've been
on Channel three news, Channel fiveNews. And you have to really be
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persistent about this because you know howpeople are. They forget their memories,
laps, people die. I mean, your son's case only happened several years
ago. But it's possible that peoplehave just forgotten about it. They've moved
on. Other crimes have happened,So you want to constantly keep bringing his
name up. Yeah, I'm sacingto go back and get the media involved
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again because its disridiculous. It's almostbeen five five years and he is nothing,
no justice whatsoever for his murder andthe guy he gets out of prison
soon. Is there currently a rewardout for any information about this case?
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They have a five thousand dollars rewardout and it hasn't went up since probably
two or three years now. Well, maybe if he gets a chance,
your family can raise some additional fundsto add to the reward, because in
some cases a larger reward might bea little more enticing. The crime stoppers.
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Yeah, they have the crime stopper. So what is your family doing
to try to get justice? Ithink that you said you're going to go
to the media. Is that whatyou've been doing since your son's death?
Yes, through the media. Yeah, it's been nearly five years since Tyler
Howe was murdered. The family isfrustrated that no one has been arrested for
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killing him. Law enforcement recovered theKia used to abduct Tyler, and they
also know who owned the car.The family has a difficult time understanding why
the owner of the car hasn't beenconnected with Tyler's homicide. For now,
no one has been arrested for killingTyler. We'll take a final break and
return with Angie's closing thoughts and herplease for someone to come forward with information
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about this case. Now, doyou have a Facebook page dedicated to Tyler's
case? I don't think it's aFacebook page. A friend of mine has
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a Facebook page set up. Ithink it's Tyler Howell Murder and Milton or
something like that. I can't rememberwhat it is, but yeah, I
need to get something set up.A Facebook page. Well, I'd highly
recommend that you set up a Facebookpage committed to your son's memory, or
something dedicated to solving his homicide,something along those lines. I mean,
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Facebook is free and a lot ofpeople use it. Now. I know
you said that your son was closewith his two siblings. I saw a
story saying that Tyler's death has hada pretty big effect on his sister.
So tell me about how they feellosing their brother. How's it affected their
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lives. It's been hard. Yeah, it's been hard on us all.
His sister Lainly, she just hadher third child. He never got to
meet any of them. And heroldest one acts just like him. It's
so rambunctos. And my youngest son, he has a daughter, and Tyler
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never got to meet his daughter either. And Tyler always wanted kids. He
always talked about having kids. Hewas always good with kids. It's too
bad he didn't have the chance tobecome a parent and have his own kids.
Sounds like he probably would have beena pretty cool dad. Yeah,
he would have and cool uncle.And I saw a story about how you
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visit Tyler's grave often every day orevery week, something along those lines.
Is that true? Tell me aboutthat. Yeah, yes, And every
time I go out my road,because he was murdered right at the end
of my road that we live on, I have to go by it every
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day when I come in, whenI go out, and I blow him
a kiss and I tell him Ilove him. Every day. I mean,
every single time I drive by.I haven't missed the time yet,
but yes, I do go byhis grave. Does that bring you a
lot of comfort and peace? Doyou talk to him. Believe me,
I won't think you're crazy if youtell me that you talked to him,
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because I do that with my dad, and I'm telling you it's okay to
do that. Sometimes it really helpstalking to loved ones that are no longer
with us. I do talk tohim. I do i'm having a hard
day, or even when it washere, I would always talk to him.
I would get his opinion about everything. He would wrap his arms around
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me and he would have me andhis mama, Everything's gonna be okay,
and kiss my forehead. It soundslike you had a wonderful relationship with your
son. We did, but wewere so much alike. We would argue.
Oh my god, we would argueback and forth. But because we
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were so much to like. Ibet you'd give just about anything to have
another argument with him right now,wouldn't you. I would, because we
argued right before. It was likeas Thursday, before all this happened,
and we argued. I said,boy, get your ass out of the
house, and he started walking downthe road and I ended up coming back
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that night and everything was fine.We were all right. You know,
sure, you can't stay mad atyour mom. I've gotten into arguments with
my own mother. I could neverstay mad at my mother. I have
messages on my phone and voicemails onmy phone from him, and we were
message back and forth, and likeI said, right before, you know,
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we message about apartments and stuff.And he was telling me that night
that he wanted me to get aholdof his cousin because his phone was messed
up, and he wanted me totell her to come over and see him,
and so I did, and she'slike, I don't know if I'm
gonna make it over there, becauseshe didn't get off till ten o'clock.
And he's like, I don't knowif I'm gonna make it over, which
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I guess he got to hold overanyway, and she ended up coming over
that night and taking him to thestore. If she wouldn't never come over,
maybe he'd still be here. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tragedy that
you don't know any more than whatyou knew five years ago. You haven't
learned anything new or seeing any justiceor any hint of any type of justice
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exactly. So for anyone that's listeningto this story and they know anything about
your son's case, what law enforcementagency would they need to contact if they
know anything ten Rose a Sheriff's Department. And my final question that I would
have for you is for anyone outthere that's listening to this that can hear
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your voice, if they know anythingabout what happened to your son, what
would you say to that person orpersons. Please let somebody know anybody.
If it was your child, youwould not want to go through this.
You would not want someone to gothrough life not knowing who killed their child.
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So if you do know anything aboutwhat happened to my son, Tyler
Lee Howell, please get in touchwith somebody. If it's not me,
if it's not the Chair's department,it's somebody that knows him, his sister,
I mean, anybody on Facebook thatknew him, any friends. Please.
We just want justice for our son. And that concludes the story of
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Tyler Howe, who so viciously killedthis young man just down the road from
his home. We know law enforcementhas recovered the Kia associated with Tyler's homicide,
and we also know who owns theKia. Are we expected to believe
that this man loaned his car outto the men who killed Tyler and he
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doesn't know anything was he in thecar when Tyler was abducted. For now,
Kiras Hawkins is incarcerated and he hasnot been charged with any involvement in
Tyler's death. The family is hopefulthat this will change is they believe that
he is a key component in solvingTyler's homicide. Angie Mantielow has said that
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she hopes that someone will step upand do what's right for Tyler and break
the code of silence. She knowsthere are several people out there who have
the answers that the family needs tosee justice for Tyler. If you have
any information about this case, pleasecontact the Santa Rosa County Crime Stoppers number
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at eight five zero four three sevenstop. I will also be sure to
provide this information in the case storynext. And if you are a parent,
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contact me through Facebook. Thank youfor listening.
Hello, and welcome to the CatchMy Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.
My name is Mark. For nearlyeight years, I've written a weekly
newspaper column about true crimes and missingpeople for the CLAREMONTSA newspaper in Ohio.
With the column and podcast, myobjective has been to bring attention to the
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cases of those who haven't received muchmedia attention, if any. This week's
on Saul Thomas side occurred on Octobertwenty first, twenty eighteen, one of
twenty one year old Milton, Floridaman named Tyler Howe was abducted and shot
the death after returning home from atrip with his cousin to buy cigarettes.
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After he was abducted, his cousinwas held at gunpoint and forced from her
car. Her car was then stolen. The car that Tyler was forced into
and his cousin's car were both recovered. Over four years of past and no
one has been arrested for Tyler's homicide. His family still waits for justice.
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Angie Mandelow had a close relationship withTyler Howe, twenty one, who was
her oldest son. Tyler and hisfamily lived in Milton, Florida. Tyler
also had two younger siblings who lovedhim and missed him to this day.
Angie told me that Tyler always wantedto become a dad because he loved children
so much. She saddened that henever got the chance to become a father
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or an uncle. She said thatTyler was a young man who had maintained
many of his childhood friendships and henever got out of his terrible two's.
She described him as rambunctious and goofy, but she did say he had a
heart of goal. According to mediareports, Tyler's death unfolded on the evening
of October twenty first, twenty eighteen. Tyler and his cousin went to a
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local gas station for cigarettes late thatSunday night. They climbed into his cousin's
blue Chevy Cruise. After buying cigarettes, Tyler and his cousin returned home from
the store. On their way backfrom the gas station, the cousins were
followed to Tyler's John Hamm Road residenceby several black males driving in a silver
Kia Optima. Tyler then exited hiscousin's car and got into the Kia with
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the men. Afterward, one ofthe men left the Kia and pointed a
gun at Tyler's cousin and ordered herto get out of the car. After
she left her vehicle, the unknownman drove away with her car, as
Zakia also drove off with Tyler stillinside. Moments later, Tyler was shot
at death and left alongside the road. His family believes that he had fought
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back against his abductors, but thefamily isn't sure why Tyler was abducted and
killed. Since Tyler's homicide, lawenforcement has released photos of at least one
of the suspects as he stood insidethe gas station. The Kia and the
blue Chevy Cruise have also both beenrecovered. The Kia is owned by a
man named Kieris Hawkins, who iscurrently incarcerated on unrelated charges. The Chevy
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Cruise has since been traced to ashooting in Pensacola. It would appear that
Hawkins should be considered a suspect inTyler's homicide, but so far no charges
have been filed against him. Tyler'sfamily has concerns that Hawkins will be released
before he can be connected to Tyler'shomicide. Tyler's mother thinks that it's possible
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that her son knew at least oneof the killers. She also thinks it's
possible that he may have even triedto sell marijuana to the men, but
she doesn't know for sure. Shehas told me that she hasn't received any
information from law enforcement about the case. Today. All the family has left
of Tyler are his memories and aroadside memorial and his honor. He was
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laid to rest at hit greyh HammockChurch Cemetery. For this story, I
spoke to Angie Mantelow, who isTyler's mother. She told me the grief
that she feels is unbearable and theholidays and birthdays are the worst. I
had read that Angie visited her son'sgrave daily just to speak to him.
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I asked her if that was true. She said it was true, and
she also drives past the site ofTyler's homicide often. The Santa Rosa Sheriff's
Apartment is hopeful that they will beable to uncover DNA that could lead to
Tyler's killers. According to law enforcement, they need someone who is willing to
provide a crucial tip that will leadto Tyler's killers. Although law enforcement has
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recovered the KIA associated with the crime, and they also have photos of the
suspects. It's not enough to makeany arrests. And now on with the
story of Tyler Howe is told byhis mother and v Mandelow. He was
born in May of nineteen ninety seven. May fifth. He was what you
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call it, I can't even thinkof it, the Mexican holiday May fifth?
Now, what is it called?Yeah, I know that holiday,
I just can't recall what it wascalled. Wait. He was born in
Milton, Florida, and at SantaRosa Hospital and they told me whenever I
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got to four centimeters that I wouldget an epidural or some pain medicine.
Well, with this kid, Idid not get no pain medicine. He
come so quick. He went fromthree centimeters to ten centimeters and just seconds
and he come out. And itwas the best thing ever. I don't
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even know how to explain it,but it was just awesome. He was
what made me a mom and wherehe got a little older. Always said
that he was going to grow outof his terrible twos, and he never
did. He was so rambunctious.Everybody kept telling me, you need to
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see if he needs ADHD medicine.Even in school, he was rambunctious.
He was always the class clown,always had to make people laugh. Even
when he got older, he wasthe same way. Was Tyler your firstborn?
Yes, he was my firstborn.Yes, we ended up moving.
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We were living in Leino, Floridaafter I had him, and then I
got pregnant with my daughter. They'relike a year and seven months apart,
and he was so happy he wasgonna be a big brother. He loved
his sister, and even when theygot older, they were inseparable. They
were like tips in a pod,but totally different because he was just so
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rambunctious. He was still that waywhenever he was a teenager. He couldn't
sit still. He loved Pokemon.He played Pokemon. Me and him used
to play Pokemon on the little gameboy thing and we were really close.
And once he got older he wasinto Narto. I don't know the anime.
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Yeah, he was all into Narto. He had books every Birthday,
Christmas, everything, you know.Every time I got him to him,
I got him a book of Narto. He had a book. He pretty
much hung around with his three bestfriends that he went to elementary Ellen up
to high school with He always wantedto go to Japan because he was so
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into Narto. He wanted to seewhat Japan was like, he said.
Whenever he got out of high school, he wanted to go to Japan.
Well, Japan is known for puttingout really great animation. Yeah, he
loved it. He was really intothat. He never graduated. He ended
up dropping out. He got hisfirst job whenever he turned seventeen. He
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ended up working at a crane operatingplace where his biological father worked there and
got him a job. And he'snot in the picture set up. Police
don't add him to any of this. But that was his first job.
So he was seventeen and found himselfa crane operator job. Why did he
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leave school? He was never reallyinto school. He ended up going to
a school they called Raiders, andhe ended up getting out of school.
I don't know why he dropped outof school. So school wasn't really his
thing then, Yeah, what didn'tsay when he dropped out of school he
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was going to go get him ajob. Well he did, he got
him a job, and then afterthat job, he ended up working at
a construction place laying brick. Andthen I guess he quit that job and
then he ended up working with mydad and his hall. He was a
painter and he was good at it. He liked it, So then he
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ended up going to work with hisbest friend. His brother owned a painting
business, and that was his lastjob before he was taken. So construction
type work, is that something thatTyler wanted to do or did it just
happen to be the type of workhe was able to find. He loved
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it even, Yeah, he lovedit. He liked to be a hie.
Yeah. He liked to climb.That was just him. He wanted
to climb up high. He alwaysstayed up in trees and go outside looking
for Raymond. He's up in atree. But yeah, he liked to
stay up high. So it soundinglike he really stayed busy. Yes,
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he is always dizzy. Based onwhat I've read, when Tyler was about
eighteen or nineteen, he got intodrugs. Can you tell me if that's
true or tell me about the extentof his drug use. He smoked his
weed, did not like it.Every time he'd be out in the yard,
I'd smell it, and I'm like, you better not be smoking in
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the yard. Yeah, he smokedhis weed, and we did not allow
it at the house. I didn'twant him doing it, and to begin
with, because I'm not the typeof person that smoked, and him and
his cousin, they would always gooff and you could smell it on him.
You know, he did it.So he just smoked marijuana. That's
pretty common with a lot of people. I don't really see a major issue
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with that, right, And Ireally don't know if there was any other
drugs involved. I've never seen him, never heard of it, but I
know he did smoke weeds, andhe hung around people that smoke weed.
And that's the only drugs that they'reeven talking about was weed. I didn't
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see any mention of anything serious likeheroin or cocaine. So what's that being
said? I just assumed with hisage, it was probably just weed anyway.
Yeah, I mean, not thetype of drug activity that's going to
get him into serious trouble with thelaw or anything like that. Yeah,
exactly. Now, did your sonhave any type of legal issues? Well,
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he did. He spent nine monthsin jail he was sixteen, I
believe, and him and some friendswent into an abandoned trailer and he broke
a window and his blood was inthere, so they found DNA. So
he ended up spending nine months injail. But he was stupid teenagers.
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Sure, we know all about youngpeople doing stupid things. I mean I
did it, and you probably didwhen you were younger. You know,
maybe we just didn't get caught,right. Well, if he did something,
he was going to get caught.Yeah, he was something else.
So what kind of friends did Tylerhang out with? Can you tell me
about some of the friendships that hemaintained. The people he hung out was
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his friends that he grew up with. He was always with his friends.
They all come over the house.They were a little bitty growing up,
and he stayed hanging out with them, and he hung out with his cousin.
And I've never seen anybody that wasbad, Like I didn't want him
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hanging out with, you know,like thugs. I've never seen. But
when he gets off with his friendsor he goes parties, I don't know
who he met. He knew alot of people and people that I didn't
even know he knew. Well,I can admit as a parent that our
kids don't always tell us about theirfriends or who they hang out with.
So that's pretty common among people anyway. I didn't always tell my parents who
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I hung out with exactly. Youdon't always know who your kids are hanging
out with. Yeah, well,they definitely keep some things from their parents.
That's all kids. Oh yeah,So when was the last time that
you spoke to your son? Tellme about that day. Tell me about
your last conversation with him, orwhich you can remember of it. The
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day that he was taken with Octobertwenty first, it was on a Sunday
and I had to go to workthat morning, and we were texting back
and forth. He was talking abouthow he was going to get an apartment
and he was gonna stay with someof his friends. Him and his friends
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was gonna get an apartment. Toldme, you know, ask me if
I knew anybody had an apartment.And I was like, that'd be good.
Get out and get you an apartment. You're twenty one. And well,
that night I got home from work, he easily goes outside and talks
on his phone, and every phonehe has had it was busted, cracked.
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You couldn't see nothing on it.You did see a glare. Well,
he was standing on the porch andI opened the door and he was
on his phone and I was like, well, you coming inside. He
said yeah, Mom. He saysI love you, and I said I
love each tone and I shut thedoor. And that was about ten o'clock
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and that was last time I sawhim. I went to bed because my
husband in his back was hurting,and so I was putting a compress on
his back and I fell asleep,and the next thing I knew of my
niece that was with him ran inthe house off and was screaming to somebody
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stoulder car. And that's all Iheard. And I got up. Me
and my husband got up and we'relike, what what's going on? And
all we heard was somebody stolder car. Well, I was like, okay,
who stole your car? Her andmy son went to the store and
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they went to get some cigarettes andthey come back and pulled in the driveway
and somebody pulled in behind him,and she said that the guy got out,
stuck a gun to her, wentto the side of the car,
stuck a gun to her head andtold her get the fuck out of the
car and told her to take offget out. So he took the car
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and my son got out. Idon't know really but the whole story,
but he got in the car thatwas behind her car, and they took
off down the road and stole hercar. So did the guy who stole
her car know your son? Idon't know. The only thing I know
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is what my niece told me thathe got out and said he was going
to sell them some weed. Sohe got in the car with them,
I guess, to sell them theweed and they took off. So why
did they steal his cousin's car.To this day, I don't know.
I don't know why they stold hercar. But yeah, they took off
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down the road about a moll downthe road from my house. They shot
and killed him, shot him multipletimes. And the person that lived close
to where he was shot, theyheard like firecrackers going off and heard people
yelling and screaming, and I heardthe sound like firecrackers going off. It
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sounds to me like he was putout of the car and then executed.
Is that what happened? Yes,And I did not know this at the
time. I'm sitting in my housecomforting her because she was pregnant, and
she says somebody stole her car,and then finally she says, Tyler's with
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them, and I'm like, excuseme, Tyler's where? And my heart
dropped. And my husband and mybrother in law went down the road and
there was cop and everything down theroad, and they wouldn't let him get
close. They just said somebody's beenshot. My husband come back to the
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house and said, somebody's been shot. I don't know who it is.
My heart just dropped and I startedrunning down the road and it was cold
out too, and I had apair of shorts on, those shoes on
a little tiptop on, and I'mrunning down the road and my youngest son's
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like, Mom the car. SoI run back to the house, get
in the car and go down there. And I just knew. I knew
it was him. It wouldn't letme get to him, but I can
see him onside the road doing cprAngie would soon learn some heartbreaking news that
would stay with her for the restof her life. She would learn that
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her firstborn son, Tyler, theyoung man she called ram Voches, goofy
and lovable, was murdered just downthe roof from his home. She never
imagined a trip to a local gasstation for cigarettes would lead to her son's
death. We'll take a short breakand return with Angie's comments on Tyler's final
night alive. So, as amother, in your natural instincts, you
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knew that the victim had to havebeen your son. I knew it him.
Yeah, how did you find outthat it was definitely him that was
shot to death. My husband wastalking to the cops, and the cops
finally told him who it was.They identified it was Tyler Lee Howell,
and I just dropped to the groundbecause they wouldn't let me get to him.
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They wouldn't let me get close tohim. But the ambulance they go
by real so I was like,well, well, Hofs throw would go
into and nobody would tell me anything. They weren't taking him to the hospital,
they were taking him to the morgue. Yeah, they wouldn't tell me
anything, and my heart just dropped. I dropped to the ground. I
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couldn't move. That was the worstday in my life. I don't think
I can imagine a pain worse thanlosing a childs I've always thought that has
to be the worst pain that anyparent could experience. Ever, yeah,
it is, And I'm assuming therewas an autopsy, and if so,
what did you learn from it?He was shot multiple times? Who was
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shot in his chest and upper leg. That's the only thing that I know
right now. They don't give usa full autopsy report until they closed case.
Now, based on how many timeshe was shot, it sounds like
someone was really angry with your son, and that almost sounds personal. So
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to me, this probably wasn't arandom thing. He probably knew the person
that shot him, Yeah, exactly. So tell me what was going through
your mind as you were trying tofigure out what happened to your son.
I had no clue. I keptasking everybody who you know who it could
have been. They even have picturesof the people, They have video,
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they have pictures, They have thecars, they have the owner of the
car. He's in prison on anunrelated charge. I've been taught to my
own detective work of how he knewthem, and I can't figure it out.
Well, perhaps they sold each othersome weed at some time or another
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exactly, but I don't know when, how where he met at with him
before. Well, that's probably oneof the people that your son probably knew
but never told you about, right, But you know, they had to
be introduced somehow. I don't knowhow they met. I don't know how
it got to him meeting that's whatthey did. They met at the store,
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or they ran into each other atthe store, I don't know,
but they followed them back from thestore, That's my thing. I don't
know from that point, I don'tknow the motive. The only thing I
could think of is he didn't havethe weed on him that he had to
get it as we didn't allow it, so he had to hide it.
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Based on what I've found in socialmedia, it's been stated that the motivation
was likely drugs. Do you believethat? I believe it. I believe
that. But my thing is,how did he know him? Now?
What can you tell me about theguy who owns the Kia. I saw
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that they recovered his car and heis incarcerated. What's going on with this
guy? I mean it was hiscar, so he was either in the
car or if he wasn't, heshould know what was going on in his
car if he loaned it to someoneexactly. So, how come this guy
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hasn't been charged with being involved inyour son's death. I've been asking myself
that for four years now, thechanne As the Sheriff's department has done nothing
but gave me a runaround. Forfour years, they have been the worst.
They never gave me a victim's advocatebecause I didn't know what to do.
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I had no clue. My sonwas just murdered and I had to
pay for his funeral. I hadto pay for everything, and I think
I was treated unfairly and they don'tgive a damn. It's also a possibility
that your son's case, well,he's being judged. Perhaps the cops were
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looking at it like, well,this is just another dead drug dealer,
regardless if he was just selling weedor buying in it's hardly worth being chilled
over. And your son still deservesjustice over weed. And what I find
unique about your case is that you'vealready got one of the people that's possibly
involved already in jail. You didrecover his vehicle, and you also have
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a photograph of at least one ofthe people involved. A lot of families
I speak to, they don't evenhave a vehicle, they don't have photographs,
they have absolutely nothing. But yourcase actually has a starting point.
I even asked the detective that wason the case. I even asked them
if they can work with pair bondlaughs that does genetic DNA. They'll get
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like a picture of something and getthe person kin to that person so they
can find out who it is.They denied it. What kind of DNA
does law enforcement have? Do youknow? I don't know. They haven't
told me anything. They kept givingme a runaround, telling me they have
so much evidence, they have this, they have that they have nothing because
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they haven't done anything in almost fiveyears. How long did it take for
law enforcement to recover the Kia afteryour son was killed? A week?
Okay, so let me ask aboutthe owner of the Kia, Hawkins.
I'm assuming that he was not inprison when your son was killed. Is
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that correct? No, he wasnot in prison at the time. They
told me that they snatched the phonefrom somebody and they have phone evidence and
all this other crap, but nothinghas been done. I can't even get
them to identify the person in thevideo the picture. How many men did
your niece see in the car?Now, she didn't know how many,
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but there was at least three orfour because my son would throw hands.
He had some big ass hands andhe could fight, so they had to
have two of them in the backto hold him back there or have you
know? And one of them hadto be driving, and one of them
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had to be driving another car.And your niece's car was eventually recovered correct,
Yes, and how long did thattake the same time it was involved
in another shooting her car was Yeah. Now, I'm sure that there had
to have been evidence inside her car. Oh, they said there was no
evidence. The car was white,clean, like it was brand new.
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But they have both cars. Now, did law enforcement find any of your
son's blood in the Kia? Butthey tell me he wasn't shot in the
car? So then are you sayingthat they made him get out of the
car and then they shot him.That's what I'm assuming because I kept asking
if there was any evidence, anyblood, anything. They wouldn't tell me
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anything. They wouldn't give me anything. They gave me the name of that
person that owned the car, andthat was it. Now, have you
ever tried speaking to the owner ofthe Kia? Have you ever tried to
visit him while he's incarcerated and askedfor answers? No, No, I
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haven't. My husband won't let medo that. Nope. I tried to
get the detective and he kept sayingthat he was everything, COVID come through
and all this other bullshit. Yeah, every time it was something. Well,
the cops have definitely spoken to himby now. Perhaps he just isn't
being truthful or he's just not willingto speak to them. But think about
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it, what are you gonna do, just loan your car to someone and
they're going to go out and shootsomeone and you didn't know anything about it,
or you weren't there. People don'ttend to loan their cars too often
to other people exactly. Well,then if he does know anything, he
hasn't said anything because there hasn't beenany arrests or any movement on this case.
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So whatever he does know or doesn'tknow, he's obviously not telling anyone
about it. Yeah. Yeah,hasn't said anything. So how often do
you contact law enforcement and ask forupdates? Once a month? Yeah,
I contact him once a month.They don't have anything to tell me his
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case has gone cold. Well,it's difficult for me and probably people familiar
with the case to understand how thiscase could be cold because you have the
owner of the car, and youhave the car exactly. That is what
they tell me. His case isgone cold. They even had a cold
case people come through here in Miltonand was working on his case and nothing.
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I didn't get anything out of that. I've had him on Project Cold
Case. They even put him ina deck of card and we haven't got
anything. Now, have you everrequested a meeting with the chief of police?
Now, me and my husband isfixing to do that because we've done
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contacted the new detective that's on thecase and he keeps telling us nothing.
He has nothing. So me andmy husband's fixing to sit down with this
Bob Johnson whoever. Well, yourealize to keep this case in the public
eye, you're gonna have to constantlycontact law enforcement, your local politicians,
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and of course the media, thenewspapers, your news channels. You're gonna
have to do that just to keepyour son's name out there so that people
don't forget about this crime. Yeah. I've done that too. I've been
on Channel three news, Channel fiveNews. And you have to really be
(29:30):
persistent about this because you know howpeople are. They forget their memories,
laps, people die. I mean, your son's case only happened several years
ago. But it's possible that peoplehave just forgotten about it. They've moved
on. Other crimes have happened,So you want to constantly keep bringing his
name up. Yeah, I'm sacingto go back and get the media involved
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again because its disridiculous. It's almostbeen five five years and he is nothing,
no justice whatsoever for his murder andthe guy he gets out of prison
soon. Is there currently a rewardout for any information about this case?
(30:15):
They have a five thousand dollars rewardout and it hasn't went up since probably
two or three years now. Well, maybe if he gets a chance,
your family can raise some additional fundsto add to the reward, because in
some cases a larger reward might bea little more enticing. The crime stoppers.
(30:37):
Yeah, they have the crime stopper. So what is your family doing
to try to get justice? Ithink that you said you're going to go
to the media. Is that whatyou've been doing since your son's death?
Yes, through the media. Yeah, it's been nearly five years since Tyler
Howe was murdered. The family isfrustrated that no one has been arrested for
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killing him. Law enforcement recovered theKia used to abduct Tyler, and they
also know who owned the car.The family has a difficult time understanding why
the owner of the car hasn't beenconnected with Tyler's homicide. For now,
no one has been arrested for killingTyler. We'll take a final break and
return with Angie's closing thoughts and herplease for someone to come forward with information
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about this case. Now, doyou have a Facebook page dedicated to Tyler's
case? I don't think it's aFacebook page. A friend of mine has
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a Facebook page set up. Ithink it's Tyler Howell Murder and Milton or
something like that. I can't rememberwhat it is, but yeah, I
need to get something set up.A Facebook page. Well, I'd highly
recommend that you set up a Facebookpage committed to your son's memory, or
something dedicated to solving his homicide,something along those lines. I mean,
(32:15):
Facebook is free and a lot ofpeople use it. Now. I know
you said that your son was closewith his two siblings. I saw a
story saying that Tyler's death has hada pretty big effect on his sister.
So tell me about how they feellosing their brother. How's it affected their
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lives. It's been hard. Yeah, it's been hard on us all.
His sister Lainly, she just hadher third child. He never got to
meet any of them. And heroldest one acts just like him. It's
so rambunctos. And my youngest son, he has a daughter, and Tyler
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never got to meet his daughter either. And Tyler always wanted kids. He
always talked about having kids. Hewas always good with kids. It's too
bad he didn't have the chance tobecome a parent and have his own kids.
Sounds like he probably would have beena pretty cool dad. Yeah,
he would have and cool uncle.And I saw a story about how you
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visit Tyler's grave often every day orevery week, something along those lines.
Is that true? Tell me aboutthat. Yeah, yes, And every
time I go out my road,because he was murdered right at the end
of my road that we live on, I have to go by it every
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day when I come in, whenI go out, and I blow him
a kiss and I tell him Ilove him. Every day. I mean,
every single time I drive by.I haven't missed the time yet,
but yes, I do go byhis grave. Does that bring you a
lot of comfort and peace? Doyou talk to him. Believe me,
I won't think you're crazy if youtell me that you talked to him,
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because I do that with my dad, and I'm telling you it's okay to
do that. Sometimes it really helpstalking to loved ones that are no longer
with us. I do talk tohim. I do i'm having a hard
day, or even when it washere, I would always talk to him.
I would get his opinion about everything. He would wrap his arms around
(34:37):
me and he would have me andhis mama, Everything's gonna be okay,
and kiss my forehead. It soundslike you had a wonderful relationship with your
son. We did, but wewere so much alike. We would argue.
Oh my god, we would argueback and forth. But because we
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were so much to like. Ibet you'd give just about anything to have
another argument with him right now,wouldn't you. I would, because we
argued right before. It was likeas Thursday, before all this happened,
and we argued. I said,boy, get your ass out of the
house, and he started walking downthe road and I ended up coming back
(35:22):
that night and everything was fine.We were all right. You know,
sure, you can't stay mad atyour mom. I've gotten into arguments with
my own mother. I could neverstay mad at my mother. I have
messages on my phone and voicemails onmy phone from him, and we were
message back and forth, and likeI said, right before, you know,
(35:45):
we message about apartments and stuff.And he was telling me that night
that he wanted me to get aholdof his cousin because his phone was messed
up, and he wanted me totell her to come over and see him,
and so I did, and she'slike, I don't know if I'm
gonna make it over there, becauseshe didn't get off till ten o'clock.
And he's like, I don't knowif I'm gonna make it over, which
(36:07):
I guess he got to hold overanyway, and she ended up coming over
that night and taking him to thestore. If she wouldn't never come over,
maybe he'd still be here. Yeah. Yeah, it's a tragedy that
you don't know any more than whatyou knew five years ago. You haven't
learned anything new or seeing any justiceor any hint of any type of justice
(36:31):
exactly. So for anyone that's listeningto this story and they know anything about
your son's case, what law enforcementagency would they need to contact if they
know anything ten Rose a Sheriff's Department. And my final question that I would
have for you is for anyone outthere that's listening to this that can hear
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your voice, if they know anythingabout what happened to your son, what
would you say to that person orpersons. Please let somebody know anybody.
If it was your child, youwould not want to go through this.
You would not want someone to gothrough life not knowing who killed their child.
(37:19):
So if you do know anything aboutwhat happened to my son, Tyler
Lee Howell, please get in touchwith somebody. If it's not me,
if it's not the Chair's department,it's somebody that knows him, his sister,
I mean, anybody on Facebook thatknew him, any friends. Please.
We just want justice for our son. And that concludes the story of
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Tyler Howe, who so viciously killedthis young man just down the road from
his home. We know law enforcementhas recovered the Kia associated with Tyler's homicide,
and we also know who owns theKia. Are we expected to believe
that this man loaned his car outto the men who killed Tyler and he
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doesn't know anything was he in thecar when Tyler was abducted. For now,
Kiras Hawkins is incarcerated and he hasnot been charged with any involvement in
Tyler's death. The family is hopefulthat this will change is they believe that
he is a key component in solvingTyler's homicide. Angie Mantielow has said that
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she hopes that someone will step upand do what's right for Tyler and break
the code of silence. She knowsthere are several people out there who have
the answers that the family needs tosee justice for Tyler. If you have
any information about this case, pleasecontact the Santa Rosa County Crime Stoppers number
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at eight five zero four three sevenstop. I will also be sure to
provide this information in the case storynext. And if you are a parent,
law enforcement official, friend, orrelative see Injustice for an Solve commicide
case, please visit my website andcomplete the contact form. You can also
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contact me through Facebook. Thank youfor listening.
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