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Hello, and welcome to the CatchMy Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.
My name is Mark. For nearlyeight years, I've written a weekly
newspaper column about true crimes and missingpeople for the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio.
With the column and podcast, ithas been my objective to bring attention
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to those cases that have not receivedmuch media attention, if any at all.
This week's story involves the homicide ofan elderly Munsee, Indiana grandfather named
William Balfour Senior, who was murderedon July two, twenty nineteen. He
was seventy years old when he wasbeaten at death and then left on the
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side of the road. Who killedthe silverly grandfather and why. For nearly
four years, I've interviewed many peoplewho were seeking justice for family and friends
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that have been murdered. It's beenmy experience that criminal activity and lifestyle choices
often lead to someone either disappearing orbeing murdered. But then you have cases
where people are murdered for no apparentreason. An elderly grandfather named William Balfour's
Senior would be one of those individuals. For this week's episode, I interviewed
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Consuela and Lascha Balfour, who areboth William's daughters and are seeking justice for
their beloved father. William Balfour Seniorwas a retired grandfather. The months he
resident enjoyed spending time with his childrenand grandchildren. According to Lasha and Sula,
William was definitely the family patriarch.William's youngest daughter spoke to him daily,
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cooked meals for him, and dideverything she could to make his life
comfortable. She was definitely a daddy'sgirl who has nothing left of her father,
but fond memories of him. Bothsisters took great pride and taking care
of their father. They made surethe elderly handicapped man never overexerted himself.
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He had grandsons and other family membersto take care of any physical tasks that
needed to be done. His childrenjust wanted to make sure that William enjoyed
his retirement, spent time with hisfamily and friends, and relaxed. Before
eleven pm on July first, twentynineteen, Plasheya facetimed her father. He
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then changed into his pajamas before gettingready for bed. Unfortunately, he wouldn't
be getting any rest that evening,William's daughter, Consuela, said a female
friend had shown up at the houseand requested a ride home. William got
out of bed and left with thisfriend. Family members said that the trip
to her home should not have takenvery long. William had often given her
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rides in the past, so therequest wasn't suspicious. A few hours later,
Lescheya's son became concerned when his grandfatherhad not returned home. He had
to call the friend because his grandfatherhad left his phone at home. Unfortunately,
he wasn't able to speak to hisgrandfather's friend because she did not answer
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her phone. The next morning,the family discovered that William's two thousand and
one Lincoln had been courted off bylaw enforcement. His vehicle had become a
crime scene. William, still inhis pajamas, was discovered outside his vehicle
at Blaine and Centennial. Someone hadbeaten the elderly grandfather to death. His
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skull was bashed in and his teethwere all knocked out. The beating was
violent and fatal. Family members werestunned by William's death. No one could
understand why anyone would want to killthe elderly man. Everyone loved him,
and he had no known enemies.The family also noticed that the friend who
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was with William was not at thecrime scene. Consuela got into her vehicle
and searched for the friend. Shefound the friend walking down a road.
Consuela picked her up and drove herto the Munsey police station. According to
Consuela and Laschia, law enforcement letthe friend leave without filing any charges against
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her. Consuela then began investigating herfather's death on her own. She spoke
with a witness who lived with herfather's friend. According to him, the
woman came home upset. She allegedlyhad blood on her clothing and had defecated
on herself. Acording to the witness, the friend said that she had just
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murdered someone. She then recanted herstatement and said that she was only kidding
after cleaning herself up. He saidthat she left in a hurry when she
made this statement. The man thatlived with the friend had not known about
William being killed. He presented Consuelawith an article of bloody clothing that belonged
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to the friend. Law enforcement refusedto accept the evidence because they weren't the
ones who had seized it. Ihad asked both sisters why law enforcement didn't
arrest her father's friend. Both saidthat she claimed that she did not know
anything about their father's death. Accordingto her, he must have been killed
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after he drove her home. However, this contradicts the witness's statement, who
said she came home upset with bloodon her clothing. The witness said that
she was frantic and was in ahurry to leave. Four years have passed
since someone brutally beat William Balfour Seniorto death. Consuela has photographs of her
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father's beaten body. According to her, she has refused to let other family
members see the photos because she feelsthat they are too brutal. The family
is frustrated with the investigation and haverequested that the Munsey Police Department transfer the
case to the Indiana State Police.They believe that the Indiana State Police would
be better suited to work on theirfather's case. Family members believe that William's
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friend knows more about his death thanshe's ever revealed. This is the first
part of a two part story.Be sure to listen next week to the
conclusion and now on with the storyof William Balfour Senior. As told by
his daughters, Consuela and Lasha Balfour. So tell me about your father,
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William Balfour Senior. When and wherewas he born. He was born in
Mundsey on April seventeenth of nineteen fortynine. He had three brothers and he
had five sisters. Actually, becauseone died when he was young. My
father was the middle of the threebrothers. His parents died when he was
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young, so I really don't knowa whole lot about my grandparents because they
were deceased when I was born.He was raised by a family member and
grew up, you know, byhis auntie that raised him and two other
sisters. The other siblings were raisedby a different aunt So my father he
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grew up, graduated from high school, and he started working at General Motors,
where he retired from. So hemet my mom. They got married
and had four kids, myself asthe oldest. I had two brothers and
a sister. It sounds like yourfather lived a pretty good life. I
mean General Motors back in the day, that was definitely a great place to
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work. Your dad came up inthe days where you could get a job
right out of high school, makegood money and stay there and actually retire.
Yeah, and that's what he did. He retired from General Motors.
So, like I said, heraised four kids and once he retired,
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he just was at home. Himand my mom ended up to forcing though
when I was around fifteen. So, but they end up remaining still cordial,
close friends. He's still holidays,we still sent together things like that.
There was no animosity where both ourparents was not around at some holiday
or something. They were generally around. People thought it was trained some the
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fid because my mom ended up gettingremarried, but my dad still was always
welcoming around. So as life wenton, we all grew up and had
grandkids and things like that. Mydad he worked on cars, always working
in the yard. He loved tocook on the grill. On the holiday
we would go to my mother's andthen my mom ended up passing in two
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thousand ten, so then like allthe family events went to my dad's house,
and so we would always go tohis house for the holidays. He
was well known in our community.They know him as mister Balfour. He
helped whoever he could help. LikeI said, he worked on his cars.
He would see him at AutoZone gettingsome kind of part or at Walmart
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Bayh's Top. He loved phipsy,so that's what he did. He drink
a lot of pipsy, and heworked on cars, worked in the yard,
or cooked on the grill. Hedidn't party, he didn't drink anything
like that. He was with hisfamily, his grandkids, is what he
did. And while I was doingresearch on this case, I was looking
at different theories online about why someonewould have wanted to harm your father,
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and one of the theories that Isaw was connected to one of his grandsons.
I guess one of your nephews wason trial for homicide or something along
those lines. But it was seriouslegal issues, and supposedly your father was
killed in retaliation of something that hisgrandson had done. Do you think there's
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anything to that. I know it'sjust someone's very but what do you think
about that? Okay? So Ihad two nephews who had got in some
trouble and the victim, my father'sAfrican American first, and my family is
the victim of the case with mynephews was a white victim, a young
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white male. And what we weretold is that this family has connections in
Muncie, and we was told thatwhen my nephew went to trial, hey,
we had a hung jury. Andthey were furious. People was upset
about my nephews getting a hung jury. They had basically placed an attorney on
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his cap that they thought was notgoing to give a care and was not
going to fight for my nephews.And this attorney fought his pelle off and
it was a hung jury. Sothe day that my father was murdered was
the anniversary of that victim of thatcase. My father was killed on the
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anniversary of the victim of my nephew'scase. We were sent a message by
someone in the community that a policeofficer and Monkey had told them and I
don't know the police officer's name,I didn't know the person that came to
us that there was a letter sentto Monkey police that said there would be
another one killed. When we contactedthe police, they were more so worried
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about what police officer told us andthe fact that if there was a really
a letter or not out there thatcame to them. They wanted to know
who told us and which police officermore or less not telling us if it
really was a letter out there,or not, because at the time,
we're thinking, Okay, my father'sthen got killed on this guy's day of
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his death, of his anniversary.Now we're being told that someone else in
my family better be careful because someoneelse is going to be taken out.
So we felt like it had somethingto do with that case. Now,
what kind of a relationship did yourdad have with his nephews? Was he
close to them? Those were hisgrandson? Oh okay, my apologies,
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his grandsons. Can you tell meabout their relationship. Yeah, that was
his grandson and the one grandson isthe third. His name is actually William
Balfo the third, So my dadwas William Balfoort the senior and those were
his grandkids. So yeah, hewas close to him. Okay, now
I'd like to go back to theday that you found out that someone had
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killed your father. Tell me whatyou remember about that day. My sister
had called me and said my dadhadn't been home all night, had left
to give. We had a familyfriend that my dad knew for over twelve
thirteen years. The lady my dadhelped her quite a bit. Her kids
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had been in trouble a few times. He let them stay with them.
They came over, they came toour family functions, things like that.
Later in life, the lady endedup getting on drugs at one point,
but still we allowed them come around. We didn't act funny. We still
helped when we can help. Thesame person was over my house. It
was like Father's Day, the holidaybefore my dad got killed. She was
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just at our house eating dinner andshe there. She came over that night
and asked my dad to give hera ride. My dad got out to
bed, my nephew and my brotherwas there. He up getting out the
bed to go give her a ridewherever she quote said she needed to go,
and I was at home sleep.I didn't know he got up to
go give anybody a ride. Thenext morning I'll find out he had got
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up and gave her a ride andnever came at home. So when I
got the call, I woke myson. Daughter had called off everybody.
He just didn't stay out like allnight. He was seven years old,
you know, he didn't need togo staying no where. He had on
house and we were searching and gota call that his car was on the
side of a road out here inthe dominant black neighborhood. His car was
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out there and the police was calledand it was roped off by the time
I got there, and my dadwas laying outside of the car. He
still had his pajamas one and hewas laying outside behind the car, and
the police was there and it ropedoff and he was deceased. And when
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you know, we just like,what happened? Where's the lady? Where's
she at? He left to giveher a ride. The police officer sending
around is like, I don't knowif I still remember. The prosecutor was
there, and I'll never forget.He came up to me something like,
well, what do you think happened? And I'm thinking, in my mind,
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what are you asking me? Whatdo I think happened? You're freaking
supposed to be the specialist. Yousee his body, what do you think
happened? Like, I don't know. I was just so angry. But
come to find out, she wasnowhere to be found. And the police
told us that it looked like hadbeen killed by trauma, blunt force or
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something, and they was asking usdo we know if he had any objects
in the car that someone could havehurt him with, and like no,
he doesn't have anything in his car, no skits and all that stuff.
So after all of that, Ileft the scene eventually, and my siblings
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we all left the scene going tolook for this woman and I end up
finding her and walking down the streetand I called police to tell him I
found her. Here is the womanthat got my dad out of the house
that night. And they was like, don't do anything to her, we're
on our way or whatever, andI'm like, no, she's right here.
She's getting in my car with meand I'm bringing her to you guys.
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And so I got her in thecar. She didn't want again,
and I told her, she you'regonna get in this car because you're going
down here to tell them what happenedto my dad. And took her down
to the police station. And theymet us there and told us to stay
in the car while they got herout of the car. And it is
and then we find out that theylet her go like an hour or two
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hours after she was there. Theylet her go because she said she didn't
know what happened to my father andshe didn't have anything to do with it.
And I'm thinking ringing someone that lastscene, a person alive, just
tell you they didn't have anything todo with it, and you just let
him go. Where do they dothat at? I don't understand that.
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So long story short. After allof that, we end up finding out
when I seen her walking, shewas going to this man's house, and
I end up getting a call thatshe was going to his house, and
I went over there to talk tohim, and he told me that she
had came over there early in thewee hours and said she had just witnessed
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the murder and he was going tocall the police, and that this woman
said, no, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Don't call the
police. So he didn't call thepolice. But she changed her clothes and
worshed them, and his works herand dry, and she worshed her clothes,
are changed clothes, that she hada bow movement on herself, and
she had he thought looked like maybeblood or something. But she changed clothes
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and he had gave her some clothesto put on. His first name is
Wayne, he said when he didcalled the police to tell him that there
was a jacket outside his house andthat it possibly could be blood on it.
They telling him that they did notneed that item because it did not
have nothing to do with their investigation. So they wouldn't even go collect the
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jacket that he thought she might havethrew outside his house with blood on the
jacket, So he contacted my familyagainst I went over there and I called
the detectives and I even got textmessage from the detectives. They told me
that I can go get the jacketand put it in the bag and bring
it the city hall to them,and I end up doing that, not
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knowing that once I did that,it made that evidence could not be actually
used because I could have possibly placedblood on it or something of that nature.
So that would avoid that item.But I didn't know. But this
is what we was dealing with thepolice, like they wasn't trying to get
any evidence or anything. And youlet this one and go, and you
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got a man that fans She cameto his house saying she had just witnessed
the murder, and you let hergo. And so what we end up
finding out is after they let hergo, they knew she was leaving town.
They didn't tell us. We endup finding out later that she had
a ticket to leave on the Greyhoundbus and they knew she was gonna leave,
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so she ended up leaving town.And then we found out more evidence,
like she was at a man's houseprior to go into my dad's asked
for a ride. Someone called heron her phone and the man said that
she would saying my father's name,and she had someone picker up from his
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house and take her to my dad'shouse, Which is strange. Why would
you have someone call you and youtell them on my dad's name and then
you go to my dad and sayyou need a right when you actually was
in a car with someone. Itjust it didn't make sense. It was
like, what's going on if shehad a ride and she left this man's
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house in a car, but thenshe goes to my dad's house and asked
for a ride, And she didn'tstay at my dad's house like she was
there visiting for a few minutes andthen needed a ride. She literally came
over there and knocked on the door, my nephew said, asked for a
ride, and my dad got upand they left. So why have somebody
bring you there to get a ride. And then like it just didn't add
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up, and she did leave herhouse. Her curse at the man's house
where she was on the phone act. He said she left her purse and
her cell phone and told him tocontinue to answer her phone all night.
If it rings, just don't talk, just answer it and hang up.
And we told the police this.Do you know it took them five to
six months to ever go get thisman's statement. They would not go get
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his statement. We kept calling him, kept calling him. I kept going
over to his house, asked himhow they been there. They would not
go this man's statement. It tookhim like five months. I have note
like in a documentation that we keep, but it took him several months.
It's like the police would not gocollect evidence. So at this time we
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start thinking, what is the policecovering up? You refused to go investigate
my father's murder. This is aseventy year old man that his left hand
did not work because of a pinchednerves, so he couldn't use his left
hand that much, and so herehe is murdered. And at the time
we didn't know how bad he wasmurdered. But when we had my father's
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funeral, the funeral home that tookit up on their self because they seen
the injury on my father and theycouldn't believe how bad my father was.
A beat Whoever killed my father theyused something invested his head. That explained
why the police asked us about somethingin his car that could have caused a
fracture to it, you know,something of that nature. The funeral home
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end up giving me pictures, andI end up in the pictures. But
come to find out, say,bust my father's skull open. He's seventy
years old. He had never losta tooth. He was proud of himself
cause his dinners always told him hehad strong teeth to be an old,
older man, and never lost thetooth. They knocked out almost all my
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father's keeps out of his mouth.They broke his eye socket, and they
choked him so strong that his collarbone busted through his shoulder. And you
told me the police don't let itfind out who did this. That's over
till of a seventy year old defenselessman, and they won't help us.
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We asked them, and I feellike again we go back to my nephe's
case. They're pissed off about mynephew in that situation, and because you
pissed off about that, you refuseto do your job on my father's case
and it just pisses me off.And then the ray my father's cart was
pulled over to the side of theroad. We were like, why would
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that even pull over like that getthe police puliem over? Is it pop
that the police is involved, becausewe also end up finding out that we
have police officers now if you googleit and find out Chase Linkol being the
main lead police officer and his fatherwas the chief of police for this story.
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I wanted to understand why Consula thoughtthat a Munsey police officer might have
beaten her father or been involved withhis death, because I had read in
some different articles online that the familyhad questioned whether law enforcement was involved or
not. So I wanted to learnmore about former Munsey police officer Chase Swinkle.
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I was able to find information abouthim on the United States Department of
Justice website, and I wanted toread some of the information that I found
out about this guy. Chase Swinkle, a former police officer with the Munsey
Police Department in Munsey, Indiana,pled guilty today to eleven civil rights and
obstruction charges. Specifically, wink willplead guilty to five federal civil rights offenses
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for assaulting arrestees and to six obstructionoffenses for writing false reports to cover up
the assaults. Officer Winkle, theson of a former chief of police,
confessed to repeated uses of excessive forceand obstruction of justice. Set Assistant Attorney
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General Kristen Clark of the Justice Department'sCivil Rights Division. This defendant's misconduct injured
his victims and undermined the police department'scredibility with the community. We hope that
this guilty police sends a message thatneither a badge nor familial connections will shield
an officer from facing justice for hiswrongdoing. Today's guilty police are an important
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step forward as we seek justice forthe victims in this case, said US
Attorney Zachary A. Myers for theSouthern District of Indiana. Our office,
the Department of Justice, and ourfederal partners are firmly committed to holding law
enforcement officers accountable when they violate theiroaths and the civil rights of the people
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they were sworn to protect. Accordingto court documents and statements made during the
change of plea hearing honor about Augustninth, twenty eighteen, Winkle and another
officer arrested a civilian identified as LG. As LG was lying on the ground
with the other officer holding both ofLG's hands behind his back, LG directed
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a verbal insult towards the officers.In response to the insult, officer Winkle,
using his knee, dropped his fullbody weight down onto LG's neck and
head area. LG screamed out inpain and yelled that Winkle had crushed his
face. A few moments later,Winkle deployed taser prongs and to LG's back
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and activated the taser. Officer Winkle'suse of force caused severe bodily injury to
LG and multiple facial fractures that requiredsurgery. Following the incident, Winkle wrote
a false report about what happened.Based on what I've read about Winkle in
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the time this was going on,it's not difficult to understand why pen Swiler's
family has concerns about the police departmentand why they want the investigation being handled
by the Indiana State Police. Theyhad been going through months beaten up people
and beating people with their police stick. There's charges of them using assessed force
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on people. There's a main isemHe got beat by the police real bad
here. He had a lawsuit andone quite a bit of money. Where
Winkle and his whole crew. Ithink it was a night crew they called
there. They did some kind ofnight crew. They was going through challenge,
just beating people. Mother, gentleman. He wanted a loss suit.
They pulled him over and pulled himout the car, and they waited for
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Chase Winkle to get there, andthen they just savagely beat this man.
So I'm wondering, did they dothis to my father? Then you don't
want to investigate it? Is itbecause your officer might be involved? At
this point, I don't trust you. You don't want to solve it.
Why not? He was instant,he didn't have a record. My father
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never been in trouble, He didn'thurt nobody, worked like I said.
He worked until he retired. Thatwas it, and you don't want to
solve it. So we asked themto pass it on to the Stay police,
and they refused to do it.They said the case is still open,
but yet they haven't done anything onthe case. Based on the criminal
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actions of Chase Winkle. The familydoesn't trust the months he police to apartment
and has unsuccessfully requested the Indiana StatePolice take over the investigation. The family
doesn't feel as if the Monsey PoliceDepartment have put much of an effort into
William's case. We will take ashort break and return with Consuayla's sister,
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Bashaya discussed her relationship with her fatherand his homicide. So tell me about
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your father and your relationship with him. What do you remember most about him.
I remember my daddy was always atthe work. It had been on
motors. He was always at work. I remember he was a preacher.
If he wasn't at work, hewould stay working on car. He just
he was just always busy as busy, busy, busy. As far as
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when I was a kid, Ijust was real, real close to him
because that's just my dad. Iwas the baked girl, so that's probably
why. But he was not amean person. We didn't get in trouble.
He'd give us anything. He'd getanybody in there. I don't know.
He just my dad and he wasa great man. I said,
there's not a lot of'em aroundhere. And I just see how he
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took care of home, took careof my mom and as kids I was
just seeing it all. I remember. We had a close relationship to where
when I started having children, hewas right there with me. That's how
close up that's my dad. Iwanted my dad there. My mom couldn't
handle me having kids, like beingin the room or none of that.
But he was strong. He waslike there with me. And even though
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that I was in paid, buthe was there. Okay. So he
grew relationships with my children, myboys. I have five boys. One
pathway, my dad was close tothem. He used to keep them when
I worked the babysit. He wouldtake in the school, do everything that
he have a baby sitter Grandpa woulddo. Daddy to thy busy. He
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loved the cook he loved barbecue,He loved all day. He just wanted
his family to be happy. Youknow, them kids could get anything.
Are you Williams youngest child? I'mthe youngest girl. Okay. And how
many siblings do you have? Ifthem girls and two boys? Okay,
so there's four of you. MYeah. After speaking with both you and
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your sister, sounds me like youall had a great childhood. He came
up from a good home, havegreat parents that loved you were supportive.
Yeah, we did. But theyeventually separated, but we still with it
around, like he still would comeand get it from the weekend. He
would lived in Marriam, he wouldkeep come and get it from a weekend.
Eventual way he moved here to Moncie, so we did get the same
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a lot. But after a whilehe got his own house. I think
he moved here and moved in withme until he was able to get him
a home, and I think that'show it went. But yet he was
up here. There was not aday that I didn't get to talk to
my dad. If you see me, see him like we have a real
close relationship. My baby. Ihave an eight year old son. He
kept him while I worked, soI seen him every morning and after work.
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I see just all the time.I knew there wasn't a day that
I didn't see my dad. Sotell me about your experience and learning about
your father's death. Tell me aboutthat. Okay, So at about ten
o'clock at night, my son,he is twenty five now, he was
standing there with my dad and mybrother. He called me. He was
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like, mom, Grandpa left andhe'd been gone for a while, and
that is not like Grandpa and mebeing the way that I am, and
I know my dad when he wouldleave with this lady, he would leave
his phone home because she would gothrough her phone and start arguments with him
him about other women and go throughhis phone always something, so he would
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leave his phone home. So Ididn't think anything of it. I said,
he'll be home. I said,you know, Grandpa, he'll be
home, and he said yeah,but Mama, he would have been bad
by now because he was living there, for he knew more than I did
that something was not right. AndI said okay. I called her phone
pipe out fifteen twenty times. Isaid on the message, I said,
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if he talked to my dad,he said him, call me, are
you still with my dad? Noresponse, no response, So I'm daddy
calling her. I'm I probably calledher until five o'cu the morning. No
response, So being a divine myson, I he called me now.
I called her, called his cellphone. I said, Daddy home,
Yet he was like nope. Hesaid, Mamma, if you think he's
okay, then I don't want overto my girlfriend's house. And I figure
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out in the morning. I saidokay, but they didn't go home.
They went looking for my daddy.They didn't find him. Come to find
out, they rolled down a streetthat would right next to where my daddy
was laying, but they met.They didn't go down the street that he
was going, but they were thirteento third though. My son went home,
so I don't know if it wasseven o'clock, might even six something
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in the morning when my sons oneof his kids, the mother called me
because somebody was trying to reach meon Facebook and they couldn't get me because
I don't keep messenger up. Ifshe had reached out, she used to
come around with the boys. Shehad called one of the kids, the
boy's baby mom, and they werelike, I think Grandpa's cars roped off.
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The girl was like, he wentand drove by Grandpa. This is
what she said. She drove bygrandpaw cows and his car wasn't home,
so she believed that's his car.And I said, okay, and I
called the girl myself and I thoughtshe said, yeah, I think they
got even broke up by getting mysign up. The one that was living
here and my baby and my son'sfather and we left and we drove down
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centenniol with doctor Fintanio. We droveright past the street. Mind you,
when we drove past the street,all I've seen was my daddy's car on
the right of me. I neversee my dad, never seen his shoes
or anything. So we went toaround the corner and parked where we can
police and they came back. Mybrother came. They got out and everybody
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but me. I wouldn't get upthe kind of sending his back feet.
I didn't want to hear nothing.I covering my ear. They said that
they came and asked my brother,who was his dentist. Then at my
brother's home. He didn't they theyasked me and they said they didn't know.
I didn't know. At this time, I didn't know anything. I
couldn't think. And when they cameback to the car, they was like
it was bad. They can't identifyhim. And I said one I'm thinking,
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I'm okay, I can't handle itbetter if he had a stroke or
a heart attack or something. Notnobody it's up beating like that. So
I went. We went back aroundin the corner to where I first came
to that road where everybody was blockedit off. They blocked it off and
my father's legs and stuff was layingright there. I had didn't see that.
I looked down there when I droveby, and he couldn't move his
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hands. He said, you hadthought he had a stroke. He couldn't
barely walk. He was handicapped.They walked real flow, he couldn't hardly
move. It was time we hadto go on the grocery store. He
would apologize everybody because it took himso long to get his card and stuff
out. And I used to tellthat he don't be sorry. It happened.
It's okay, I'm right here.I can help you. But as
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I said before, the police theywere there and made us leave so they
could get him up. They tookthe car to the pound. Our car
was ready about an hour later,ready to be Really it looked like it
had been cleaned out because my son, my youngest and not my youngest son,
the one that was living there withhim, had took the car before.
My daddy had last in the car, so he knows how if it
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was dirty or wet, but mydad the great kids had made it messy.
You was dirty. But when theypicked the car up from the pound,
the car was thick in spin.Now, when you arrived at the
crime scene, did you see yourdad? They wasn't the being. Yeah,
all i've seen was leg No,I didn't get to see him.
They identified him the next day.LU. But when you got to the
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car and you real there was adead body, I'm assuming that you knew
in your heart that was your dadda. I could tell by the pants and
his hand and his shoe landing thestreet. And I'm assuming that when you
saw him you had no idea thatsomeone had killed him. Probably didn't know
if maybe he had a heart attackor a stroke or what happened to him.
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Did you No, they wouldn't allowus to see him. They fitted
was too bad. Yeah, theywouldn't allow us to get that clothes.
They was trying to identify him byhis teeth. I guess all of his
teeth was knocked out of his mouthand they were all over his body.
Thought they were trying to identify himby that. Because you couldn't identify him
at all. I thought that Iwould have been able to handle it better
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if it was natural causes, becausethe way that that he was beaten so
bad, like ooh, and whywould y'all want to be the old man.
He's handicapped. He can't do anything. If you wanted his money,
just pick the money and go on. I'm so confused on that. I
don't understand. And it Andy,And when we went to see the mayor,
they were like this with a hatecrime. Well yeah, nobody helping
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us to try to figure out whysomebody would do that. The hill.
Now, I would like to goback to the friend. So she comes
to your dad's house, your dadgives her a ride. She's the last
one to be seen with your dad, and yet she claims she has no
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idea what happened to him. It'sall confusing to me that the police just
let her go. I mean,did they not suspect that she was involved?
And that's why they let her go? Why didn't she get arrested or
charged with anything? They never theynever quokened her. Well, I guess
they took her in, but theylet her go. Now I know to
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the day that she id then involvedor see no exactly what happened is because
if there was not a morning thatshe would pet go by, if she
would my father up for a ride, okay, every morning, every morning
he would get up and give hera ride wherever she had to go,
seven eight o'clock. When you getto his phone, now, one time
has she called his phone And that'snot like her. If you go back
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putting his phone record, you willsee every morning she woke him up,
it was like clockwork. She neededa ride and he would pick her up.
So for her to be walking whenwhen my sister seeing her walking,
she read to have a ride.And then when my sister asked her what
happened with her and dance, shewas like, she don't know. She
took and he took me home.But I knew she was lying, but
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the police didn't my things. Idon't understand why she was in a suspect
because they left her go right away, even though she told them she was
the last person who whist. Hetold them that he dropped her off at
home. That's what she told them. So according to her, he dropped
her off at her house and thenwhatever happened to him must have happened after
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he left her house. And that'sher story. Yeah, that's her a
story. And then we talked topeople like I can't think of his name,
but she lived there with this guy. He said when she came home
at five o'clock in that morning.She was a nervous threat, and she
told him she was just involved ina murder and she had a ballot movement
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on herself. She got in theshower and she changed her clothing, wigs
and left. So then the guy, the Ricky Hughes guy that passed away,
Now this is where she was atbefore she got with my dad.
She was over his house and shekept asking the phone and she said,
my father's names William Balfour whatever,and she said, okay. He called
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my daddy, told him he neededa ride. She told Ricky that she
was gonna leave her from there,but don't answer it. Be flighted it
so to make like sees rejecting thecall, like his asses don't just not
answered, like make some kind ofmovement of makes it like if you're rejecting
a call. And if she lefther cell phone, he said, don't
answer it. So he said thathe didn't know what that was about.
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So he said he had been tryingto reach us and trying to find out
because when he found out that nextmorning, how I was, He said,
when she came there, he wasin a rust trying to get there.
Well, I'm gonna take you back. A couple of days before this
happened, my nephew went to trial, and I came home and my dad
had my kid and he was sittingthere and she called his phone. And
she's always just got on nerves.He feels like, I'm thick of her.
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I'm ready for her to get goback to Michigan. It's to Detroit,
he said, I'm ready for herto go. He said, I
didn't got her a bus ticket togo, And he said, she's going
nerves about this ticket, so I'mgoing and give it this ticket. He
said, I'm getting tired of her, like like he was just her.
He was just on him, onhim, on him. She knew exactly
when he got paid. So thatday she had called him, but he
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ended up. They ended up hangingup and I told him, I said,
he why don't you just leave himher along? He thought, I
didn't get her kickt Now Figurin movedback to Michigan and I'm heck, now
that was twa before he got killed. And he said, and I'm just
happy, oh and fith, butshe's just getting on my nerve. Like
deal with Maggie and bugging him.You know, you get older, he
can't take but so much. Afterlistening to the details leading up to William's
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homicide, I couldn't help but wondermore about the friend who asked for the
ride. She was the last personto be seen with William before he was
killed. I had questions about therelationship. We will take a final break
and listen to Lushaia explain the relationshipbetween her father and this family friend.
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Now, what was it the extentof the relationship between your father and this
family friend. Were they just friends? Were they dating? What was the
relationship? Like? Okay, theyhad been dealing with each other for a
long time. I can't even tellyou how many year and her kids were
little kept getting put in cow protection, so my daddy was like, he
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would rescue them, he would livewith him. So him and her was
basically like dating until Stephen on Imoved on about our own and then my
daddy just lived his life. Buthe was involved in some way, if
it was him giving her money forbelled or you know, just always needed
something to ride something, but he'salways helped it. We haven't been on
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vacations with them and everything. Mydad was the contact number for them kids
when they get in trouble. Soit sounds like basically your entire family considered
this woman a friend at one time. Yeah, and your entire family was
probably on good terms with her inthe past. Yes, yeah, Okay,
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So he saw in your family's historywith this woman, and it sounds
like your father did a lot forher. I guess the next thing that
I would want to ask is ifyour father was giving her rides and giving
her money and treating her like afamily member, what possible reason would she
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have for wanting to harm him.It sounds like he actually was a good
friend to her, and probably yourentire family was good to her, So
I don't understand why she would wantto do anything to hurt the family.
Right. So, I feel likethe way I got it, if she
couldn't have him to her fell,nobody could. And I remember my brother's
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girlfriend had told us, but shetold us this after he passed away.
They were working at Burger King onMadison here in monthy and I give my
daddy and her I got into it. So my brother's girlfriend would working with
her, and she felt, I'mgonna kill him one day. I'm a
killing one day. That's something thatyou come back and tell somebody, no
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matter if you think they're playing ornot. You don't know if they're playing.
You don't know them well enough toknow if they're playing or if they
just talk. But she eventually toldus after it happened that she was going
to kill him. So if jealousywas a possible motive, why would she
be jealous? Was your father datingsomeone else? Yeah? He had people,
He had other friends. None of'em was considered in a relationship.
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But she wanted me, I guess. I think of the way that she
acted and the way he would tellme if she just wanted me to be
with her, he said, I'mentitled to have friends. She's not my
woman. She was married. Shemarried then, she's been here in Indiana.
She was married. When didn't happened? I don't know. But that's
another thing that worried me. Shewas married and I didn't know. So
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after my father passed, the waythat the husband came and they had had
worked with my dad, And I'massuming that the police have spoken to the
husband. The other they took,they talked to all of them. They
even tough to all well, theysaid that they did DNA on them.
That's what one of this family membertold me not to love ago. Probably
last year they did DNA on him. And four years later, the police
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haven't made a single arrest. No, they fail that proper kids offer the
fifth They never had a case becausethey never had a best bit. Have
you learned anything new about the investigation. What's going on with the investigation today?
Well, really, they haven't donenothing. Nobody's talked to us.
They interviewed my son this year thatlived with my dad interviewed him, which
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they tried to use that as anexcuse of why they couldn't go along with
the investigation until they talked to myfriend. So they interviewed him. It's
like they basically so that they're notworking on his case. They won't let
the state take over, and theywon't find it over to the state.
And if the fates went to work, why won't y'all allow them to?
What are y'all hiding? Why wouldn'tyou want to give that over? They'll
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sarve every other case, but hereyou got a fevdeo handicap man's beat to
where you cannot even recognize him.I mean literally beat him. Everything about
him was broken, and y'all justlike, oh well, and then when
we ask you guys to get itover to the state, then you don't.
They won't. I really think thatwith all the details about this case,
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that the friend she has to knowmore than what she has said.
And it just seems odd that youdon't hear anything about her. I mean,
there's nothing in the media about her, there's no information about her.
You just don't hear anything about her. And yet she's a significant part of
this story. And another thing,she had rub charged, like serious rub
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charges before this happened. They alldisappeared. And one about your local media.
Have you spoken to them about yourfather's story. I know you have
because I've seen something on the news, but it's been years. Do you
try to get a hold of themon a regular basis or perhaps on anniversaries
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of say his birthday or when hewas killed. I've been on the noon
with I can't think of his nameright now, But they came down here,
they were with us at the sceneand everything. They interviewed us all
we don't win worldwide, but butthere's still nobody's saying anything. And a
woman we have not seen her thenext day, didn't hold her or her
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phone, but they wanted our dad'sphone. They wanted my fund's phone.
It just didn't make sense to me. But she says she was with him.
As then a couple of her belongingswas in my dad's car. As
then you take a car to itthe impound and it's an investigation, and
it's done in an hour. That'snever possible. The car came back spick
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and span. It was queen likehe had been detailed. And it sounds
like over the past four years youhaven't learned anything new. So you don't
know anything more today than what youknew four years ago. That's how it
sounds to me. Yeah, nothinghas changed. Now. Tell me about
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what you miss the most about nothaving your dad and your life anymore.
What's missing from your life? Whatdid the killer take away from you and
your family? It's just not thesame. I used to be able to
pick up the phone and call daddy. I called to my dad every day.
Just seeing my whole life is completelydifferent, not that even not here.
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But you always got that person thatwant to make everything better from a
conversation, put advice to anything andI can't calling. I can't calling when
I'm confused about stuff, even thoughI'm forty four years old. Daddy still
my dad, and I would pickup that phone and acts, you know,
Daddy, how do I do?How do I? Daddy? Are
you hungry? Daddy? Do youwant to go somewhere? Do you want?
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You know? I just made shortheat was okay, and I can't
do that. Bad bothered me.Then I got an eight year old son,
and he don't understand. He talkedto my dad the night before it
happened that night one FaceTime, andmy dad was real good about this.
He asked me, he said,did your mommy order use this power ranger
helmet? If Daddy I ordered itfor him? And then my baby asks
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him. He said, Grandpa,can you buy me a blanket like your
orcs? And he was like,yeah, I'll get you one. And
I loved you, fat man.I talked to Peas tomorrow, I'll tell
you about love you. But wewere hands on. I talked to him
every day. If I had tocook for him, i'd go feeding.
His hand was so messed up thatI had to literally clean his hand for
him. I had to keep hishand queen. It's this stuff that he
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couldn't do, that I had todo, that we had to do as
his kid. But I'm right onbeing because we were close. My brother
lived with him, but I wasstill close to my dad. It sounds
to me as if you both hada very special relationship. Yes, my
daddy. And it bothered me solike they didn't even that. This's how
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bad it was that they didn't evenwant to tell me when they came to
the car and I had my earcovered up because I was so scared of
what I was about to hear.And when they told me that, I
just it seemed like I void,like I've locked my son and I have
lost the son. But then Ilost my dad and my niece four days
later, and then my dad fourmonths later. But it's a different void.
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That's my baby A pardon me,but my father, my daddy,
you know what I'm saying. It'sa big it's a different and the way
that he passed away really is whatthe problem really is that body. My
son died from heart failure, butmy dad got murdered, so it's a
different Somebody really hurt him. Yeah, it's such a tragedy. About what
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happened to your dad. I mean, he was a seventy year old man
that was frail and disabled. Hecertainly didn't deserve that type of beating.
No one deserves that. But yourfather couldn't even fight back because he just
couldn't physically. So the last questionthat I would have for you is what
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would it mean to your family tohave someone come out and tell you exactly
what happened to your dad four yearsago? How much would that mean to
you for someone to come forward withinformation about your dad's case that would lead
to an arrest. I just wantto know why they hurt my dad that
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all. I don't want to know. I just feel like whoever did it,
they I don't know. It justI don't know how I would feel.
I don't know if I'm gonna beangry, if I'm be relieved,
I don't know. I really can'ttell you because it bothered me so bad.
I don't know how I would feel. I want that. I want
to know. I want to knowbecause at that day I wasn't there to
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help him, and he expected askids to help him, and for me
not to be able to help mydaddy. Guess would bother, anyone or
anything. But I just want toknow. I think I told my sister
one day answer because I wonder whathe was saying, like where are my
kids? Fat? Like these peopleare hurting me? Where are my children?
But we always went there for ourdaddy, but we wasn't able to
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be there and bothered me more thananything. But I would love to know
what happens. I will give thisto my daddy. And that concludes the
first half of William Balfour Senior's story. William was a retired grandfather. After
he retired, family was his numberone priority. Without him, his family
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feels lost. Even worse, hiskiller remains at large. Who killed William
Balfour Senior on July second, twentynineteen. Someone out there knows, Perhaps
you know the family is pleading foryour help. How would you feel if
William were your grandfather? Wouldn't youwant him to receive justice? If you
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