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September 14, 2023 57 mins
William Balfour Sr. was a retired grandfather. The Muncie, Indiana resident enjoyed spending time with his children and grandchildren. According to his daughters Lashea and Consuela, William was definitely the family patriarch. Lashea, William's youngest daughter spoke to him daily, cooked meals for him and did everything she could to make his life comfortable.


Before 11 p.m. on July 1, 2019, Lashea Facetimed her father. He then changed into his pajamas before getting ready for bed. Unfortunately, he wouldn’t be getting any rest that evening. Consuela said a female friend named had shown up at the house and requested a ride home.
William got out of bed and left with this friend. Family members said the trip to her home shouldn't have taken long. William had given her rides home in the past, so the request wasn't suspicious.


A few hours later, Lashea's son became concerned when his grandfather had not returned home. He had to call the friend because his grandfather had left his phone at home. Unfortunately, he wasn’t able to speak to the friend because she didn’t answer her phone. The next morning, the family discovered that William's 2001 Lincoln had been cordoned off by law enforcement. His vehicle had become a crime scene. William, still in his pajamas, was discovered outside his vehicle at Blaine and Centennial. Someone had beaten the elderly grandfather to death. His skull was bashed in and his teeth were knocked out. The beating was violent and fatal.


Family members were stunned by his death. William's family couldn't understand why anyone would want to kill the elderly man. The family also noticed that the family friends wasn’t at the crime scene. Consuela got into her vehicle and searched for the friend. She found the friend walking down along a road. Consuela picked her up and drover her to the Muncie police station. According to Consuela and Lashea, law enforcement let the friend leave without charges.


Consuela began investigating her father's death. She spoke with a witness who lived with the friend. According to him, she came home upset. She allegedly had blood on her clothing and defecated on herself. According to the witness, the friend said she had just murdered someone. She then recanted her statement and said she was kidding. After cleaning herself up, he said she left in a hurry. When she made the statement, he hadn’t known William was deceased. He presented Consuela with an article of bloody clothing belonging to the friend. Law enforcement refused to accept the evidence because they weren't the ones who seized it. I had asked the sisters why law enforcement didn’t arrest her father’s friend. Both said she claimed that she didn't know anything.


Four years have passed since someone brutally beat William Balfour Sr. to death. Family members believe the friend knows much more about William's death than she's ever revealed. This is the conclusion of a two-part story. If you haven't listened to the first half, please go back and listen. Who killed William Balfour Sr. on July 2, 2019? Someone out there knows. The family is pleading for your help. If you have a valuable tip, you can contact Muncie Crime Stoppers at 765-286-4050.


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(00:14):
Hello, and welcome to the CatchMy Killer Podcast. Thank you for listening.
My name is Mark. For nearlyeight years, I've written a weekly
newspaper column about true crimes and missingpeople to the Claremont Sun newspaper in Ohio.
With the column and podcast, ithas been my objective to bring attention

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to those cases that have not receivedmuch media attention, if any at all.
This week's story involves the homicide ofan elderly Munsee, Indiana grandfather named
William Balfour Senior, who was murderedon July two, twenty nineteen. He
was seven years old when he wasbeaten at death and then left on the

(00:57):
side of the road. Who killedthis elderly grandfather and why. For nearly
four years, I've interviewed many peoplewho were seeking justice for family and friends
that have been murdered. It's beenmy experience that criminal activity and lifestyle choices
often lead to someone either disappearing orbeing murdered. But then you have cases

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where people are murdered for no apparentreason. An elderly grandfather named William Balfour's
Senior would be one of those individuals. For this week's episode, I interviewed
Consuela Balfour. William Balfour Senior wasa retired grandfather. The once he resident

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enjoyed spending time with his children andgrandchildren. According to Lushaia and Consuela,
William was definitely the family patriot.William's youngest daughter spoke to him daily,
cooked meals for him, and dideverything she could to make his life comfortable.
She was definitely a daddy's girl whohas nothing left of her father but

(02:14):
fond memories of him. Both sisterstook great pride and taking care of their
father. They made sure the elderlyhandicapped man never over exerted himself. He
had grandsons and other family members totake care of any physical tasks that needed
to be done. His children justwanted to make sure that William enjoyed his
retirement, spent time with his familyand friends, and relaxed. Before eleven

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PM on July first, twenty nineteen, Lasha face timed her father. He
then changed into his pajamas before gettingready for bed. Unfortunately, he wouldn't
be getting any rest that evening.William's daughter, Consula, said that a
female friend had shown up at thehouse and said ride home. William got

(03:01):
out of bed and left with thisfriend. Family members said that the trip
to her home should not have takenvery long. William had often given her
rides in the past, so therequest wasn't suspicious. A few hours later,
Leacheya's son became concerned when his grandfatherhad not returned home. He had

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to call the friend because his grandfatherhad left his phone at home. Unfortunately,
he wasn't able to speak to hisgrandfather's friend because she did not answer
her phone. The next morning,the family discovered that William's two thousand and
one Lincoln had been corden off bylaw enforcement. His vehicle had become a

(03:43):
crime scene. William, still inhis pajamas, was discovered outside his vehicle
at Blaine and Centennial. Someone hadbeaten the elderly grandfather to death. His
skull was bashed in and his teethwere all knocked out. The beating was
violent and fatal. Family members werestunned by William's death. No one could

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understand why anyone would want to killthe elderly man. Everyone loved him and
he had no known enemies. Thefamily also noticed that the friend who was
with William was not at the crimescene. Consuela got into her vehicle and
searched for the friend. She foundthe friend walking down a road. Consuela

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picked her up and drove her tothe Munzi police station. According to Consuela
and Laschia, law enforcement let thefriend leave without filing any charges against her.
Consuela then began investigating her father's deathon her own. She spoke with
a witness who lived with her father'sfriend. According to him, the woman

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came home upset. She allegedly hadblood on her clothing and had defecated on
herself. According to the witness,the friend said that she had just murdered
someone. She then recanted her statementand said that she was only kidding after
cleaning herself up. He said thatshe left in a hurry when she made

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this statement. The man that livedwith the friend had not known about William
being killed. He presented Consuela withan article of bloody clothing that belonged to
the friend. Law enforcement refused toaccept the evidence because they weren't the ones
who had seized it. I hadasked both sisters why law enforcement didn't arrest

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her father's friend. Both said thatshe claimed that she did not know anything
about their father's death. According toher, he must have been killed after
he drove her home. However,this contradicts the witness's statement, who said
she came home upset with blood onher clothing. The witness said that she

(05:54):
was frantic and was in a hurryto leave. Four years have passed since
someone brutally beat William Balfour Senior todeath. Consuela has photographs of her father's
beaten body. According to her,she has refused to let other family members
see the photos because she feels thatthey are too brutal. The family is

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frustrated with the investigation and have requestedthat the Munsey Police Department transfer the case
to the Indiana State Police. Theybelieve that the Indiana State Police would be
better suited to work on their father'scase. Family members believe that William's friend
knows more about his death than she'sever revealed. This is the conclusion of

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a two part story. If youhaven't already listened to the first half,
please go back and take a listen, and now on with the story of
William Balfourt Senior, as told byhis daughter Consuela. So tell me about
your father. William Balfour senior.When in where was he born. He

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was born in Mundsey on April seventeenthof nineteen forty nine. He had three
brothers and he had five sisters.Actually, because one died when he was
young. My father was the middleof the three brothers. His parents died
when he was young, So Ireally don't know a whole lot about my

(07:23):
grandparents because they were defeats when Iwas born. He was raised by a
family member and grew up, youknow, by his auntie that raised him
and two other sisters. The othersiblings were raised by a different aunt So
my father he grew up, graduatedfrom high school, and he started working

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at General Motors, where he retiredfrom. So he met my mom,
they got married and had four kids, myself as the oldest. I had
two brothers and a sister. Itsounds like you're father lived a pretty good
life. I mean General Motors backin the day, that was definitely a
great place to work. Your dadcame up in the days where you could

(08:09):
get a job right out of highschool, make good money and stay there
and actually retire. Yeah, andthat's what he did. He retired from
General Motors. So, like Isaid, he raised four kids, and
once he retired, he just wasat home. Him and my mom ended
up divorcing though when I was aroundfifteen, so but they end up remaining

(08:33):
still cordial, close friends. He'sstill holidays, we still sent together things
like that. There was no animositywhere both our parents was not around at
some holiday or something. They weregenerally around. People thought it was trained
for the time because my mom endedup getting remarried, but Dad still was
always welcoming around. So as lifewent on, we all grew up and

(08:56):
had grandkids and things like that.My dad he worked on cars, always
working in the yard. He lovedto cook on the grill. On the
holiday, we would go to mymother's and then my mom ended up passing
in two thousand ten, so thenthem, like all the family events went
to my dad's house, and sowe would always go to his house where

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the holiday. He was well knownin our community. They know him as
mister Balfour. He helped whoever hecould help. Like I said, he
worked on his cards. He wouldsee him at Autos oone getting some kind
of part, or at Walmart buying'spop. He loved pipsy, so that's
what he did. He drink alot of pippy, and he worked on
cars, worked in the yard,or cooked on the grill. He didn't

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party, he didn't drink anything likethat. He was lips in his family
and his grandkids is what he did. And while I was doing research on
this case, I was looking atdifferent theories online about why someone would have
wanted to harm your father, andone of the theories that I saw was

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connected to one of his grandsons.I guess one of your nephews was on
trial for homicide or something along thoselines. But it was serious legal issues,
and supposedly your father was killed inretaliation of something that his grandson had

(10:24):
done. Do you think there's anythingto that? I know it's just someone's
theory, but what do you thinkabout that? Okay? So I had
two nephews who had got in sometrouble and the victim, my father's African
American first, and my family isthe victim of the case with my nephews

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was a white victim, a youngwhite male. And what we were told
is that this family has connections inMunsti. And we was told that when
my nephew went to trial, hebasically had a hung jury and they were
furious. People were upset about mynephew getting a hung jury. They had

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basically placed an attorney on his casethat they thought was not going to give
a care and was not going tofight for my nephew, and this attorney
fought his hell off and it wasa hung jury. So the day that
my father was murdered was the anniversaryof that victim of that case. My

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father was killed on the anniversary ofthe victim of my nephew's case. We
were sent a message by someone inthe community that a police officer and Monkey
had told them And I don't knowthe police officer's name, I didn't know
the person that came to us thatthere was a letter sent to Monkey police
that said there will be another onekilled. When we contacted the police,

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they were were so worried about whatpolice officer told us that the fact that
if there was a really a letteror not out there that came to them,
they want to know who told usand which police officer more or less
not telling us if it really wasa letter out there or not, because
at the time we're thinking, Okay, my father's then got killed. On

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this guy. Day of his deathof his anniversary. Now we're being told
that someone else in my family betterbe careful because someone else is going to
be taken out. So we feltlike it had something to do with that
case. Now, what kind ofa relationship did your dad have with his
nephews? Was he close to them? Those were his grandson? Oh okay,

(12:41):
my apologies, his grandsons. Canyou tell me about their relationship?
Yeah, that was his grandson,and the one grandson is the third.
His name is actually William Balfo,the third. So my dad was William
Balfo, the senior, and thosewas his grandkids. So yeah, he
was close to them. Okay,Now I'd like to go back to the

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day that you found out that someonehad killed your father. Tell me what
you remember about that day. Mysister had called me and said my dad
hadn't been home all night, hadleft to give. We had a family
friend that my dad knew for overtwelve thirteen years. The lady. My

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dad helped her quite a bit.Her kids had been in trouble a few
times. He let them stay withthem, They came over, they came
to our family functions, things likethat. Later in life, the lady
ended up getting on drugs at onepoint, but still we allowed them come
around. We didn't act funny.We still helped when we can help.
The same person was over my house. It was like Father's Day, the

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holiday before my dad got killed.She was just at our house eating dinner
and she there. She came overthat night and asked my dad to give
her a ride. My dad gotout the bed, My nephew and my
brother was there. He ended upgetting out the bed to go give her
a ride wherever she quote said sheneeded to go, and I was at
home sleep. I didn't know hegot to go give anybody a ride.

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The next morning I'll find out hehad got up and gave her a ride
and never came at home. Sowhen I got the call, I WoT
my son daughter had called off.Everybody left. He don't know where Dad
is because he just didn't stay outlike all night. He was seven years
old, you know, he didn'tlove those staying now where he had one
house and we were searching and gota call that his car was on the

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side of a road out here inthe dominant black neighborhood. His car was
out there and the police was calledand it was roped off. By the
time I got there, and mydad was laying outside of the car.
He still had his pajamas one andhe was laying outside behind the car,

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and the police was there, andit roped off and he was deceased,
and you know, we're just like, what happened? Where's the lady?
Where is she at? He lessto give her a ride, the police
officanding around, is like, Idon't know. I still remember. The
prosecutor was there and I'll never forget. He came up to me talking about,

(15:20):
well, what do you think happen? And I'm thinking, in my
mind, what are you asking me? What do I think happen? You're
freaking supposed to be the specialist.You see his body, What do you
think happen? I don't know.I was just so angry. But come
to find out, she was nowhereto be found. And the police told

(15:41):
us that it looked like had beenkilled by trauma, blunt force or something,
and they was asking us do weknow if he had any objects in
the car that someone could have hurthim with, and like, no,
he doesn't have anything in this car, no hits and all that stuff.
So after all of that, Ileft the scene eventually and my siblings we

(16:06):
all left the scene going to lookfor this woman and I end up finding
her walking down the street and Icalled police to tell him I found her.
Here is the woman that got mydad out of the house that night.
And they was like, don't doanything to her, we're on our
way or whatever, and I'm like, no, she's right here. She's
getting in my car with me andI'm bringing her to you guys. And

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so I got her in the car. She didn't want again, and I
told her, she you're gonna getin this car because you're going down here
to tell him what happened to mydad. And took her down to the
police station and they met us thereand told us to stay in the car
while they got her out the car. And it is and then we find
out that they let her go,like an hour or two hours after she

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was there. They let her gobecause she said she didn't know what happened
to my father and she didn't haveanything to do with it. And I'm
thinking, when can someone that lastseen a person alive just tell you they
didn't have anything to do with itand you just let them go. Where
do they do that at I don'tunderstand that. So long story short.

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After all of that, we endup finding out when I've seen her walking,
she was going to this man's house, and I end up getting a
call that she was going to hishouse, and I went over there to
talk to him, and he toldme that she had came over there early
in the wee hours and said shehad just witnessed the murder and he was

(17:34):
going to call the police, andthat this woman said, no, I'm
just playing. I'm just playing.Don't call the police. So he didn't
call the police. But she changedher clothes and worshed them, and his
worsher and dry and she worshed herclothes, are changed clothes, that she
had a bow movement on herself,and she had he thought looked like maybe
blood or something. But she changedclothes and he had gave her some clothes

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to put on. His first nameis Wayne, he said when he did
call the police to tell him thatthere was a jacket outside his house and
that it's possibly could be blood onit, they telling him that they did
not need that item because it didnot have nothing to do with their investigation,
so they wouldn't even go collect thejacket that he thought she might have

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threw outside his house with blood onthe jacket, so he contacted my family
against I went over there and Icalled the detectives, and I even got
text message from the detectives. Theytold me that I can go get the
jacket and put it in the bagand bring it the city hall to them,
and I end up doing that,not knowing that once I did that,

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it made that evidence could not beactually used because I could have possibly
placed blood on it or something ofthat nature, so that would avoid that
item. But I didn't know.But this is what we were dealing with
the police. They wasn't trying toget any evidence or anything. And you
let this woman go, and yougot a man that fancy came through his

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house saying she had just witnessed themurder, and you let her go.
And what we end up finding outis after they let her go, they
knew she was leaving town. Theydidn't tell us. We end up finding
out later that she had a ticketto leave on the Greyhound bus and they
knew she was gonna leave, Soshe ended up leaving town. And then

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we found out more evidence, likeshe was at a man's house Prior to
going to my dad's to ask fora ride, someone called her on her
phone and the man said that shewould saying my father's name, and she
had someone pick her up from hishouse and take her to my dad's house.
Which is strange. Why would youhave someone call you and you tell

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him on my dad's name, andthen you go to my dad and say
you need a ride when you actuallywas in a car with someone. It
just it didn't make sense to Itwas like, what's going on if she
had a ride and she left thisman's house in a car, but then
she goes to my dad's house andasked for a ride, And she didn't
stab my dad's house like she wasthere visiting for a few minutes and then

(20:08):
needed to ride. She literally comeover there and knocked on the be where
my nephew said, asked for aride, and my dad got up and
they left. So why have somebodybring you there to get a ride.
And then it just didn't add up, and she did leave her house her
curse at the man's house where shewas on a phone act. He said
she left her purse and her cellphone and told him to continue to answer

(20:32):
her phone. All night. Ifit rings, just don't talk, just
answer it and hang up. Andwe told the police this, do you
know it took them five to sixmonths to ever go get this man's statement.
They would not go get his statement. We kept calling him, kept
calling him. I kept going overto his house, asked him how they
been there. They would not goto this man's statement. It took him

(20:53):
like five months. I have noteslike in a documentation that we keep it.
It took them start a month.It's like the police would not go
collect evidence. So at this timewe start thinking, what is the police
covering up? You refused to goinvestigate my father's murder. This is a
seventy year old man that his lefthand did not work because of a pinched

(21:17):
nerves, so he couldn't use hisleft hand that much, and so here
he is murdered. And at thetime we didn't know how bad he was
murdered. But when we had myfather's funeral and the funeral home had took
it up on their self because theyseen the injury on my father and they
couldn't believe how bad my father was. A beat whoever killed my father they

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used something and busted his head sothat explained why the police asked us about
something in his car that could havecaused a fracture to it, you know,
something of that nature. The funeralhome end up giving me pictures,
and I end up seeing the pictures, but come to find out, they
bust my father's skull open. He'sseventy years he had never lost the tooth.

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Be the proud of himself cause hisdinner's always told him he had drown
teeth to be an old, olderman and never lost the tooth. They
knocked out almost all my father's keepout of his mouth. They broke his
eye socket, and they choked himso strong that his collar bone busted through
his shoulder. And you tell me, the police don't let us I know

(22:22):
who did this. That's over tillof a seventy year old defenseless man,
and they won't help us. Weasked them, and I feel like again
we go back to my nephew case. They're pissed off about my nephew in
that situation, and because you pissedoff about that, you refuse to do
your job on my father's case.And it just pisses me off. And

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then the way my cap father's cardwas pulled over to the side of the
road. We were like, whywould that he even pull over like that?
Did the police pull him over?Is it possible that the police is
involved, because we also end upfinding out that we have police officers now
if you google it and find outChase Linkle being the main lead police officer

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and his father was the chief ofpolice for this story. I wanted to
understand why Consula fought that a Munseypolice officer might have beaten her father or
been involved with his death, becauseI had read in some different articles online
that the family had questioned whether lawenforcement was involved or not. So I

(23:32):
wanted to learn more about former Munseypolice officer Chase Swinkle. I was able
to find information about him on theUnited States Department of Justice website, and
I wanted to read some of theinformation that I found out about this guy.
Chase Swinkle, a former police officerwith the Munsey Police Department and Munsey,
Indiana, played guilty today to elevencivil rights and obstruction charges. Specifically,

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Winkle plead guilty to five federal civilrights offenses for assaulting arrestees and to
six obstruction offenses for writing false reportsto cover up the assaults. Officer Winkle,
the son of a former chief ofpolice, confessed to repeated uses of
excessive force and obstruction of justice,said Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clark of the

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Justice Department's Civil Rights Division. Thisdefendant's misconduct injured his victims and undermined the
police department's credibility with the community.We hope that this guilty police sends a
message that neither a badge our familialconnections will shield an officer from facing justice
for his wrongdoing. Today's guilty policeare an important step forward as we seek

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justice for the victims in this case, said US Attorney Zachary A. Myers
for the Southern District of Indiana.Our office, the Department of Justice,
and our federal partners are firmly committedto holding law enforcement officers accountable when they
violate their oaths and the civil rightsof the people they were sworn to protect.

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According to court documents and statements madeduring the change of play hearing Honor,
about August ninth, twenty eighteen,Winkle and another officer arrested a civilian
identified as LG. As LG waslying on the ground with the other officer
holding both of LG's hands behind hisback. LG directed a verbal insult towards

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the officers. In response to theinsult, Officer Winkle, using his knee,
dropped his full body weight down ontoLG's neck and head area. LG
screamed out in pain and yelled thatWinkle had crushed his face. A few
moments later, Winkle deployed taser prongsand to LG's back and activated the taser.

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Officer Winkle's use of force caused severebodily injury to LG and multiple facial
fractures that required surgery. Following theincident, Winkle wrote a false report about
what happened. Based on what I'veread about Winkle in the time this was
going on, it's not difficult tounderstand why can Swiler's family has concerns about

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the police department and why they wantthe investigation being handled by the Indiana State
Police. They had been going throughmonthly beaten up people and beating people with
their police stick. There's charges ofthem using assessed courts on people. There's
a main isem he got beat bythe police real bad here. He had

(26:44):
a lawsuit and won quite a bitof money where Winkle and his whole crew.
I think it was a night crewthey called There's they did some kind
of night crew. They was goingthrough challenges beating people. Another gentleman he
won a lawsuit. They pulled himover and could him out the car,
and they waited for Chase Winkle toget there, and then they just savagely
beat this man. So I'm wondering, did they do this to my five?

(27:10):
Then you don't want to investigate it? Is it because your officer might
be involved? At this point,I don't trust you. You don't want
to solve it. Why not?He was instant, He didn't have a
record. My father never been introuble, He didn't hurt nobody worked like
I said. He worked until heretired. That was it, And you

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don't want to solve it. Sowe asked them to pass it on to
the state Police, and they refusedto do it. They said the case
is still open, but yet theyhaven't done anything on the case based on
the criminal actions of Chase Winkle.The family doesn't trust the Monsey Police Department
and has unsuccessfully requested the Indiana StatePolice take over the investigation. The family

(27:56):
doesn't feel as if the Monsey PoliceDepartment have put much of an effort into
William's case. We will take ashort break and return with Consuali's thoughts on
the police investigation and to her father'shomicide and why she doesn't feel confident in
the Munsey Police Department's ability to solveher father's case. Have you tried reaching

(28:33):
out to the State Police and askingthem for help. I've reached the State
Police, and yes, I tookmy notebook to the SBI in Indianapolis.
I took them everything that I had, all my notes, all my pictures,
everything. I took pictures of thecrime scene. I took pictures everything.

(28:53):
I went door to door asking forvideo. We couldn't even get them
collect video. But when it happened, and like the service station down the
street from where my dad's body was, they couldn't give me the tape,
which I'm fine with, but theysaid the police never came to him,
so after a while it was erased. You see what I'm saying, Like

(29:14):
you're on if you're working a murdercase. Me, I'm not even a
cut, but I know to dosurveillance and neighborhood to see if anyone has
a ring, doorbells, a camera. We didn't get any of that.
They didn't even walk my father's sceneto look for his keys because his keys
was missing and its bilfoe was missing. They hadn't even walked the scene of

(29:36):
where my father was for he gotkilled in July. It was during near
December when they walked the area tolook for stuff. And that's only because
of the State Police. When wecontacted the state police and we were asking
for help, and they were tryingto help us and do what they could,
but they couldn't take over the casebecause Muncy's chief police would not re

(30:00):
lease the case. They said itwas still open. So it put a
hold where the state police couldn't comein full of force and work the case
because Munsey won't release it. Whywon't you release it if you don't have
nothing to hide, and if youif you can't solve it, then let
a fresh pair of eyes look atit. And they refused to why are

(30:21):
you holding onto the case? Idon't understand now. Have you ever requested
to meet with the Munsey Chief ofPolice and discuss your father's case with him?
Yes, yes, we met withthe police and we met with the
mayor. Is it going to everget solved? If you can help us,
we appreciate it. But Mony Policethey're not gonna help us. I've

(30:44):
called them three weeks ago. Ileft the message, I didn't get called
back. I called one other timesince then, they haven't come me back.
I mean, what else do youdo? The State police can't help
because Monthy won't release it. WhenI went to the FBI, they looked
at everything I had and they saidthere's no way they shouldn't be able to
kind of break this case with everythingthat I got myself to be in a

(31:08):
civilian, like all the notes andeverything. I've even showed them and told
them and even the lady, butthey let go now. They said they
need her DNA. I end upfinding the lady in Fairmont, Ohio,
and she was on probation down therefor something. And I called the Monkey

(31:29):
police and told them where she waslocated at, and the chief probation or
probation officer down there said that theywould make sure they can keep her get
her there where they can get herDNA if they wanted it, and Monkey
police wouldn't go get it. Andthen she got off probation and I don't
know where she went from there,but they wouldn't even go get it.
And I'm like, she's there,she has to checkin. They will keep

(31:49):
her in the office or whatever youneed. If you call them, they
would arrange with daw so y'all canget her DNA if that's what you need.
And they wouldn't even do that.Okay. So he said that his
wallet was missing, So with thatwas robbery the motivation behind this killing in
your opinion, no, because I'mgonna say this, if they robbed my

(32:13):
father and the motive was robbery,his bank cards and things was in his
wallet. The bank that he had, Region Bank, and we talked to
them several times. Region Bank said, no one's ever attempted to take any
money out of my father's account beforewe closed the count or even after,
like even after we had stayed incontact with him, because we had a

(32:36):
good a poor with them. Noone's ever tried to withdraw any money even
attempt to use his card. Soif you're trying to rob somebody, you're
going to try and take some moneyout that bank because you don't know how
much they gout or anything. Hiscard was never used, so to take
his wallet was to make us thinkit was robbery. That's what our thinking,

(32:57):
because if it's a crackhead, orlike you said, if it was
someone trying to rob him for money, they're gonna take his bilfo. But
you got a bank card, yougot a credit card there. They don't
even try to use his debit cardsor anything. And dad had money in
his account, so that it wasn'ta robbery. So how do you know
that your father's friend wasn't the personwho took the wallet. She could took

(33:19):
it, but she did not tryto get no money. Whoever took the
wallet, they got the wallet,I don't know if it's her, whoever
took it, wherever it is,they never attempt to get any money out
of his make account. Now doyou know if your father was carrying cash
and his wallet on that particular evening, Yeah, so he might have had
a few dollars, It wasn't nothingsubstantial. It would might have been twenty

(33:42):
thirty dollars something like that. Butif somebody's robbing somebody, they don't try
and get the money off the cardat least or something. At some point
I would think you would attempt totry to use credit card or something.
I don't know, but they didtake his wallet. And has it been
confirmed that your father's friend was thelast person to have been seen with him

(34:07):
on the night that he was killed, the last one seen with him.
And you know what else they saidshe had. My brother did some research
and he had proved she had acouple of charges that was pending on our
system here in Delaware County. Aftermy dad died. A few weeks later,
all her charges were gone. There'snothing of her on there as her

(34:30):
cases like, you know, likethey've gone, like where's her car or
her worst cases? All of asudden, now she don't have to go
to quarter or anything. Everything wasgone. It didn't make sense. So
kind of felt like, did someonepay her to get my dad out of
the house? Because we've been onyou forever. Why did you disappear?
Somebody who always called and come aroundafter my dad got killed, she never

(34:53):
came back around. She never called, She didn't even try to come to
the service. And I'm saying,this is someone we saved your kids from
going to the children's home. Youknow, nothing, just nothing. Now,
have you spoken to the friends sincethe night that you took her to
the police department. No, wehave note since we church took her to

(35:15):
the police stations, we have notheard from that lady, not once,
and that's why I tracked her toOhio. So she's a key player in
this. She has to know muchmore than what she said about it.
But you and your sister are bothsaid that law enforcement hasn't really spoken too

(35:36):
much to this woman about your father'shomicide. No, the police let her
go and that was it. Hada We called them once because we heard
she was in town and they toldus. What was they say back then?
We called him and said we heardshe was here, and they fit
something like, no, we wouldthought she was here, but that's not

(35:57):
her, or something like I don'tknow. They nothing that we turned into
him is relevant. We'd tell himwe felt like they could talk to a
couple of people that was in jailand they would tell us stuff like,
oh, they don't like us,they don't want to talk to us,
they're not gonna tell usnssing. Butaren't you supposed to try And a lot
of people don't like the police,But aren't you supposed to at least try

(36:17):
and talk to people? I don'tget it. It's like anything most of
the things we try to tell themit just like I said with the man
and he died now Ricky, Ican't think of Ricky's last name, but
Ricky's passed now. He was theman that kept her cell phone and kept
answering the phone for her that night. It took you six months to go
talk to him. That seemed likesomething you would want to know them right

(36:38):
away and get documented. It wasnothing to no urgency on anything that we
told him. There's a guy hejust died. His name is Michael.
They said he had something to dowith it or some kind of involvement in
it. We told them about himand listened to this. This is the
crazy stuff. We stopped him onthe street, me and my cousin,
and we was asking him about myfather's desk, and he was like,

(37:00):
oh, he can take us somewherein the country to some people's house that
could tell us about it. Like, what are you not taking me to
no country? Nothing. But atthe same time we're talking to him,
it looked like it was drops theblood on his Kinnis shoes. So my
cousin and I are standing there talkingto him, and she's taken pictures of
his shoes. While we're talking tothis man, we call the police,

(37:21):
we tell him what he was tellingus, and all of this. They
asked, that's did we take hisshoes? Did you get his shoes?
Look, we're about to take theman's shoes off of him. Like what
your mean? Did we get hisshoes? That's the kind of stuff we're
dealing with. Like really, Soit's just been horrible. I mean,
getting any help with my dad's cagefor real, it's been horrible. But

(37:45):
if you see the pictures, andI'm I'm not gonna send them to you
because I don't want to open theend of it. But I have the
pictures. I've sent him out before, but I just I'm not gonna look
at it. It's hard to getout your mind. But my father it
was like Emmett kill. If you'veseen the pictures of Emmett till On,
that's how my father looked. Like. They took his eye socket and put

(38:08):
a plumb that shriveled up in hiseye socket. I mean, his skull
broke. It is horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible. And I got
the futures because the funeral home senton to me. They was like,
this is overkill. That's exactly whatthey said, this is overkill. It's

(38:28):
now been over four years since thedeath of William Balfour Senior. This man
was a seven year old grandfather,with no criminal record, with no enemies.
He was beloved by pretty much everyonethat knew him. So who would
kill this man and why today thefamily doesn't know much more than what they
knew four years ago. We willtake a final break and when we return,

(38:53):
we'll listen to Ensuala's final thoughts onwhat she thinks might have happened to
her father and why she doesn't thinkthat The Monzi Police Department has been very
successful in finding out who killed herfather. And while I was doing research

(39:22):
on this case and just reading upon it, I didn't see any information
released about how he died. Fromwhat I understand, he wasn't shot to
death and he wasn't stabbed to death. But other than that, the police
didn't release any other details about howhe was killed. He was eat to

(39:44):
death, my father, and I'mtelling you his teeth. He was so
proud of having teeth because he toldme to read, because he called me
red when I went to the dentistbut didn't said I'm doing good for old
man and have all my teeth.My teeth was strong. I would definitely
say aids at at his age.That's a great accomplishment. No dentures,

(40:06):
having all your teeth, that's definitelynot something that's probably normal among the American
population. Yeah, and his teethwas knocked all out his mouth, and
man, that took some force toknock his teethed out and stuck in his
shirt. According to what we endup reading in the documents from the doctors,
like his teeth on his shirt andin his mouth stuck in and award

(40:28):
and knocked them out and stuff.It's horrible. And the mayor telling us
that the police is going to workon it. Now, tell me about
the location of where your father wasfound. How far was it from his
house? Oh god, you haveto ask me that drive? Why it
being our town, isn't that huge? I would say from his house to

(40:52):
where he's found tops eight minutes orso, eight ten minutes. But the
thing is the people people had beenin that area that night, Like we
talked to people that had been outthat night, and my father wasn't there
at midnight. You see what I'msaying, like he left his house.
I think they said close to tenthirty eleven. He wasn't out there at

(41:14):
midnight. And then we have oneperson's statement that was out there about one
thirty two o'clock. He wasn't outthere then, so he was his body
was placed out there somewhere after twothirty up until that wee hours in the
morning. Like the gentleman Michael McGeethat died. He said, when he

(41:35):
walked through there, my dad's carwas there, and he looked in the
windows of the car because the backpassenger window was cracked, and he looked
in the window, probably thought hewas Gary still something. Didn't know whose
car it was, but he saidhe didn't find Dad there. He said,
I didn't see nobody there. There'sno way you couldn't see a body
where my dad was placed right behindthe trunk on the ground for him to

(41:58):
be walking by, that's the firstthing. Once you get past the car,
you're gonna see the body because mydad was even with the back of
the trump So his car sounds likeit was there at one point, and
then later his body was there.Because Michael clearly said he did not see
a body there that while he walkedby, and that he admitted he looked
in the windows to see if anythingwas in the car. And what time

(42:21):
did he say that he walked byyour father's car. Don't quote me on
I want to say Michael said hewas there between two and two thirty.
Myron, Myron Murphy lived right onthe corner. He's a think he's a
fireman. I think he might bea fireman, but he lives on that
corner, and he was on hisway to work, and he's seen the

(42:43):
car maybe about six thirty seven.And oh, I got another name for
you too. Let me think it'sanother guy that seen my dad's body,
And it was somewhere between six thirtyand seven. He was on his way
to work and he's seen the body. He said he thought he was somebody
just drunk or something on the ground, not knowing he was dead. He

(43:08):
didn't know if they was drunk orworking on the car. So between six
thirty seven, my father's body wasseen. I think I got out there
somewhere between seven thirty and eight.So I don't know when. I mean,
we don't know if when exactly hewas placed there, because you got
people saying he was not there attwelve, he wasn't there at one thirty.

(43:30):
So somewhere between one thirty and I'mgonna say six in the morning up
to seven, he was there.Do you know the exact route that he
took. Was he just taking herhome? Do you know if he had
to stop somewhere else or was itjust straight from his house to her house?
We don't know. She told thepolice, and according to the police

(43:50):
is that she dropped her off downtownin Monday. So downtown from Monsty from
where my dad was found it isprobably five minutes. So so if he
went downtown to take her home,why would he go to White Lee after
he dropped her off, because hecould turn around and go right at com
you know, like from our townto where daddy is four to five minutes.

(44:13):
You know, like if you droppedher off uptown in money, then
go straight back down the street isgo to your house? Hired you on
the whole other side of town.And he had his pajamas on, and
how should he's like he was inthe bed suet prior that. Why would
he all of a sudden be onthis other side of town. So based
on where his car was located,it wouldn't make any sense for his car

(44:36):
to be there if he had justtook her home and then came straight home.
Is that correct right then? Thatmeans maybe somebody else took the car
there after your father was killed.But we know that the car wasn't on
the path back to his house.No, No, it's that's we tried

(45:00):
to tell the police. I feellike they put him in the car here.
I don't think he was. Idon't think he was killed there.
The police trying to tell me hewas. I don't think he was killed
there for a fact, Michael McGeewhen he said he looked in that car,
my dad wasn't nobody in the carand he didn't see my dad's body.
Ever, he walked away from thecar, so he was not.

(45:22):
No, I don't think he waskilled there. And another thing I don't
feel like the police wants to solvethis is because they told my father's car
in the Northwest record and we startedcalling asking about the car. When could
he be released because it's his car. We wanted to get the car back.
They kept telling us they was processin the car. They processed in

(45:43):
the car, we couldn't get acar yet. So eventually, almost a
week later, I ended up gettinga bill in the mail for three hundred
and something nine dollars because my father'scar was sitting in tow and we hadn't
picked it up. When I calledNorthwest to say how are you charging us?
And we've been waiting on the policeto release the car, they tell

(46:04):
us that the car was released thesame day. Within a couple of hours,
they released the car. The policehave been telling us we couldn't get
it because they quote with the processin this car all this time, and
then we find out Northwest was like, no, it was released that same
morning, the couple of hours afterwe brought it in, So that didn't
make sense to us. So theman at the owner of Northwest end up

(46:29):
waving all the feed for us gettingthe car code and because or he waved
all the storage feeds and then wepaid I think it was maybe fifty dollars
or something from the bring it tomy daughter's house in parkt in her yard,
but he waved on because he thoughtwe just wasn't coming to get the
car, not knowing all along thepolice have been telling us, but they

(46:50):
were processing the car. So it'slike all kinds of little stuff that just
don't make sense, and why arelying to us so much? And I
just don't I don't have no answersto none of it because nothing makes sense
because I don't watch a lot ofcrime shows and the police don't operate like
that, you know, is likethey really are trying to solve stuff and

(47:12):
they're taking up all the evidence theycan. But at this point we don't
even know if they really really didanything to check Dad's car out, because
one police officer did tell us thatthey couldn't find no fingerprints in my dad's
car, And that doesn't make sensebecause my dad's fingers should have been on
the car. The woman's fingerprints shouldhave been in the car, my nephew

(47:34):
who had just drove the car beforeDaddy took the car and drove it,
if she had fingerprints in the car, and they said my dad's car,
there was no prints in his car, So what other thief wiped down a
complete car? So just to confirmthe Moncy Police are still in charge of
this investigation, is that correct?Police? And when was the last time

(48:00):
and that you tried to speak tosomeone in the months he police department.
I called him a couple of weeksago because yup, chiefs flown. He
won't call me back. And thenI talked to him Peas Officer Peas or
detective Peas or whatever she is.Chiefly I talked to her maybe three months
ago. She said the chief wouldcall me back. He didn't call me

(48:20):
back. Then he didn't call meback. Now they don't ever call you
back too much. And then whenthey'll do, they say they're still working
on it. It's doing over thecase. And then they'll ask you if
you know anything. When the statepolice was trying to take over the case,
that's what they did. They hadn'ttalked to us, and they called
me at work and asked me awhole but a question about my dad and

(48:45):
what we had her or anything likethat. And then they submitted add that
information king the prosecutor, and theprosecutor said, oh, well, they
are working on it because they haveX Y and Z. Well, x
Y and Z was the information andI have gave him. So then they
said they couldn't do wasn't going topass it on to the state police.

(49:07):
Well, at this point four yearslater. If you don't already have an
attorney, your family may need tohire one, not necessarily for any type
of litigation, but maybe someone tohelp you try to figure out what's going
on, possibly get information from thepolice apartment, that sort of thing.

(49:27):
Well, every time we asked aboutan attorney, they tell us that we
don't have an actual person who theyasked us, like who are we trying
to like sue, Like, wedon't have a specific person that we're trying
to sue. I'll get with mybrother then, but yeah, he he
knows all of all of that,like he talks to all the attorneys and

(49:51):
stuff he's been. We try tohire a few, but we always get
seemed like we get turned down whereeverything like my dad's I'm looking at his
TI then this shows like he hasold drugs and it's just a no alcohol.
There's every negative and then they putcause of death as black force trauma
to the head. Now does yourfamily have a social media presence? I

(50:13):
mean, do you use say TikTokor Facebook or anything like that to draw
attention to your father's case. Wehave a Facebook page, but it doesn't
draw too much a function. Andwhat's the name of the page. It's
Justice for William vow For. Itis the group and it's only got it's

(50:34):
my brother needs to play. Makeit unprivate because it looks like you got
it as private, but it's Justicefor William vow For. Yeah, you
need to make it not private soeverybody can see it. Yeah, okay,
And then what you do is insteadof you don't have to just people
go, well, I don't havea lot of information to put. Well,
not only do you put information aboutyour dad asking for tips, and

(50:58):
you know, stories about your dad, you can also put other homicides from
your area and put those stories onthere too, Okay, So add fresh
content or other homicides in other cases, unsolved cases in Muncy or even in
Indiana, you know, and thenthat will bring people coming back to your

(51:19):
page because you'll have new content everyday. So you put stories on it.
You and your brother both put storieson it every day. And then
of course you guys add stuff aboutyour dad and there maybe once or twice
a week, say hey, anybodygot any information you know, send me
turn us a tip if you knowanything. Somebody out there knows something,
so please help us. You knowthat kind of thing. Okay, and

(51:40):
invite people. Invite everybody on yourFacebook page, his Facebook page, random
people. Just let people just comeand check it out. People. Okay,
I'll tell him. I call himtonight and tell him that. And
that man's name was Wayne With.Look, I have to go pull my
photo out and it's Wayne With.It is the ones you went to a
house and took the shower and thenRicky Hughes with the gentleman that she was

(52:04):
left her phone at his house andhadn't answering it. Yeah, I'm just
trying to jump through some of theseemails and stuff because I got a binder
just so full of stuff. Andwe also we had made flyers and put
out in the community when it happenedand stuff, and the police was telling
people. We had a couple ofpeople tell us the police told them that

(52:24):
wasn't them, that it was thefamily. Like we put on their wanted
wanted if you see police notify themonth the police department, and we had
put a picture of her. Weput a picture of my father's car that
it happened, you know, hehad left in and a picture of my
dad and we posted them around townand we were told by certain different people

(52:45):
that would they ask the police aboutthe flyer. The police was like,
oh, that's not us, that'sthe family that's doing that. Why would
you play it down like that?You know, they would like, well,
ever, anything he was trying toget help, it seemed like they
just didn't care. I mean,because a lot of people call you and

(53:05):
you tell them, oh, it'snot job. You should they should have
been like, yeah, do youhave any information? All right? So
this has been hard. Well,it sounds like your father was really a
great person, a great dad,a great friend, a great grandfather,
just a really wonderful person. AndI'm sorry that you've had such a difficult

(53:28):
time getting answers about what happened tohim. I mean, it's been four
years, and that probably seems likean eternity to go so long without knowing
anything. But I just wanted tocommand you and your family for keep on
keeping on about finding out what happenedto your father that night. And I

(53:50):
hope that you all don't give upand that you continue to pursue answers because
it sounds to me like your daddeserves justice because he was a good man
who looked out for his family.And with that being said, the last
question that I would have for youis for anyone out there that's listening to

(54:10):
this podcast, if they know anythingabout what happened to your dad, what
would you say to that person orpersons if you could speak to them,
If you have any information of anythingabout anything that can help solve my father's
murder, we would really appreciate youcome forward, contact them, Muncy Police

(54:36):
or even even the state police.If you could contact them or any of
our family members, we would appreciateit. My father did not deserve what
happened to him, and I reallywould like justice and for being killed.
You know, he had left behindgrandkids and great grandkids and we missed him
and we want justice. It's notright. And that concludes the story of

(55:01):
William Balfour Senior. If you haven'tlistened to the first half, please go
back and listen to that episode.William was a retired grandfather. After he
retired, family was his number onepriority. Without him, his family feels
lost. Even worse, his killerremains at large. Who killed William Balfour

(55:25):
Senior on July two, twenty nineteen. Someone out there knows, perhaps you
know. The family is pleading foryour help. How would you feel if
William or your grandfather when you wanthim to receive justice. If you have
a valuable tip, you can contactonce He crime Stoppers at seven six five

(55:47):
two eight six four zero five zero. I will also provide this information in
the case story notes. And ifyou are apparent law enforcement of Ischel,
friend or relative seeking justice for anunsolved thomicide case, please visit my website
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