344 - New Paramount

Star Trek Comic Con News

The past few weeks have brought many updates for the Star Trek franchise that the trio jump into:

• The release of teasers/trailers for "Star Trek: Lower Decks," "Star Trek: Strange New Worlds," and "Star Trek: Section 31."
• Cast news about the upcoming Starfleet Academy series
• News about a new live action Star Trek comedy series in development

The sale of Paramount Global to Skydance, though still not official until 2025 (pending regulataroy approval and other considerations), also leads to further speculation about how the future of the franchise will be shaped.

What upcoming Star Trek are YOU most excited about? 

 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the nerd Party.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Darren Moser, I'm Philip Gilphus, I'm Daniel Prue, and.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
This is City Alpha three.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello everyone, and welcome to SETI off a three Star
Trek podcast here on the nerd Party Network. I am
your host Daniel Prue, and joining me as always are
my two buddies, Darren and Philip.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Hey, guys, how is your week?

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I think Darren has logical Yes, I think Darren has
the bigger story of like, oh I can't record Sunday
Bags and then I suddenly see where he was, So
we'll get to him in a second. But this past
weekend I virtually uh Starfleet, the Star Trek International Fan

(00:58):
Club Association Incorporated that I'm a member. I've had their
international conference. It was in Atlanta, but they also had
a virtual convention sort of in tandem with it, and
so that was sort of Friday and Saturday. So that
was kind of fun to at least get the virtual
con experience because they have sort of what's called Gathered

(01:18):
Town and it's sort of like this eight bit version
think of like original Legend of Zelta or something, but
it's like it does the entire con floor, so you
have like your little character and you can walk around,
and then when you meet someone you can see their
actual video and sound, and so you can still talk
and meet people that way, and then you can go
into like the convention room and then they actually have

(01:39):
the video playing of the real thing. So that was
sort of fun experience because that's cool. Yeah, I got
to try out my new bomber jacket that I got
from the twenty third late twenty third century bomber jacket
first featured in Star Trek three The Search of Spock.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So of course when it's a.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
It wasn't fahrenheit, I don't know, upper seventies here, no
ac plus the white shirt, which I'm not currently wearing.
You got the fan at full blast while I was
wearing that. But other than that, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Now. Were your pips and squeaks appropriate? Because that's what
I ah? Yeah, I even bother? Why even bother?

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I have the actual twenty third century pen. I like
this better because this is a region twenty of the
UK Ireland that I remember of. And then this is
actually a three D printed Fleet Captain. I know this
is an audio medium, but this is the fleet Captain
three D printed that. So one I just had someone
and maybe I don order like proper metal ones because
with these uniforms there's so much you got to think
of because you actually have to buy two. One goes here,

(02:46):
and then one goes here, and then Pipson squeaks go
in the white party.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
One goes on the shoulder, one goes on the sleeve.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, those are the heres that Philip said in this
audio medium exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, sorry, so those are all on order in coming.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's spent way too much money, of course. But anyway,
so yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
No, wonder Starfleet abandoned that. It was just too complicated
and then.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Just went to jumpsuits and Rady johonas weak.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yeah, yep, exactly. And I didn't know you were doing
secret things and doing stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I mean, you make it sound like it was a
big secret. It wasn't. I just didn't reveal a lot,
I guess. So No, I got to go to San
Diego Comic Con for Saturday and Sunday, just a quick weekends,
So drove down early Saturday morning and drove home Sunday night.
But I got to bring BT six riding on the

(03:37):
mouse droid and we had a Droid Builders panel on
Sunday which had around two two fifty in attendance, which
was really cool. You know, I'd been to Comic Con
to San Diego probably back in like twenty nineteen. I
think it was the last time I went. I took

(03:58):
L three down because they had the solo cockpit and
so I rolled the crew of other cosplayers and we
got some awesome photos. But it's very difficult to get tickets,
so I usually only am able to go if someone
like gives me something. But yeah, but the panel was
was really fun and the best part.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I should note because Darren apparently has some sort of problem,
he didn't go to the panel.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
He was on the panel. Sorry panel panel. I still
you make it sound like I'm trying to keep this
a secret. I mean, I'm a humble guy. Guys exactly, No, No,
I got I've posted. I moderated this panel several times
at other conventions. So and it's funny because you know,

(04:47):
for an extent, I think a lot of droid Builders
are fairly introverted. So it started when someone was like, oh, well,
do you want to moderate it? And I'm like sure,
And it wasn't like a short straw. It was more
like no, no one else wanted to do have that responsibility,
and then I did it so well that every year
they're just like, oh, well, well, well darre it, We'll
just do it. I'm like, oh, sure, okay, I'm sure

(05:09):
no one else wants to Okay, no, no, no one
else wants to. Okay, sure I can. I can do that.
But yeah, so moderating that was probably the biggest, yeah,
biggest panel we've we've had. I mean it was the
three point thirty on Sunday time slot, which isn't you know,
prime real estate. But it's still it's still worked out great.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I didn't have a question, Darren. Now of course I
actually can't remember, so this is gonna be a very
big question that hopefully you'll.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Jog my memory.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I remember a picture of the panel, I think, and
so my I mean, this is arbitrary. I'm not trying
to like call anyone out, but like, because when I
think droid and making and stuff like that, I think,
you know, making, but I swear there was someone like
in a costume. I mean there had to be a
person inside that.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So and I'm not trying to be like, oh, there
should be some sort of fight or something, but like,
is there a line between intricate cosplay and droid You
don't try to say no, You're absolutely right and I
can explain guys, I can explain it.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
No. So that was That was my friend Cameron, who's
actually from Australia, and he made a part showing three
Po costume, so like episode one where he you know,
it looks like all the parts, which is a very
difficult costume to pull off. So he actually was in

(06:30):
town for the convention, like I said, from Australia. He
won two awards at the masquerade the night before, like
Best Sci Fi and Best something else I can't recall,
but he so he stopped by to like meet us,
and we just gave him a little honor on the
side at the very beginning, like hey, congratulations again Cameron

(06:50):
for your win. So yeah, he wasn't a part of
the panel. He was kind of dropping by. But yeah,
the main panel is all about robotic and puppetry, so
that's the main focus. But but you know, we're we're
all about enjoying droid building in its many forms.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Did he actually put a servo inside his body? Like
three Po has that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
His himself was the servo as were.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
At any point did he like because I'm sure there's
various displays even in the other panel or elsewhere in
the halls, like just stand next to droids and just
come alive.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
And scare the crap out of people. I know. He
did get some shots at the Lucasfilm Booth, which has
a lot of you know, Star Wars ish walls and
things like that, and I did see some pictures of
him with some rtwos which I thought was clever. And he's,
you know, in full moticulation. Yeah he's he's talking and
he's got a little voice samp so he's sounding like

(07:47):
three po so. But yeah, as fun as the panel was,
which it was always a fun time, my favorite part
was on Sunday in the morning, I changed it up
a bit. Instead of going around with Beatty a lot,
I just stayed in one place. So I stayed at
the Lucasfilm Booth, which is very carpeted and they have

(08:09):
these kind of display pillars of the different costumes from
like the Acolyte and lightsabers and stuff, so there's lots
of room to move around and I just stayed there
for like three hours and just you know, because wave
after wave of kids would come through, and you know,
it would turn over. But at one point there was

(08:29):
like this twenty foot circle of kids and beaties just
driving around in the middle, just up to them, and
it was magical. Like the kids, you could tell they
were just enthralled. And I'm standing right there in a
blue shirt, you know, with a giant RC controller. But
it didn't matter. They didn't pay attention to me. And
so that was the most fun, was just making these

(08:51):
moment And that's why I take, you know, my droids
to conventions. It's to share it, you know. Otherwise it's
just driving around my garage and talking to my guinea pigs.
You know, it's not as not as interesting. But no,
get to just like I do.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
You like how in this scenario he's created his own
kids are not allowed to.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Look at it. Get away, get away.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's working is the other children to enjoy.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Oh no, they they love. They love the droids so
much so because I have K two is standing next
to me, I kind of didn't think about that when
we first shot showed them Rogue one, and so they
were very upset by the deaths of K two at
the end because he's their buddy from the garage. I
didn't really make that connection of how strong of an

(09:39):
emotion that would bring, because you know, and that's like
the first domino to fall, and then all the other characters,
you know, I'm like, oh man, so, I mean, they
did enjoy the movie, but that moment was was rough.
So he comes back right right?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, yeah, he lives on right here.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
But hey, listen, if Darth Maul gets to come back,
anybody can come.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Back somehow the droid does.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
I will die on that hill for the rest of
my life. But anyways, uh.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Just out of curiosity, durned, does the guinea pig ever
ride uh the droid?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Because that would be hilarious.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
That that would that would be hilarious. And now I
need to make I should make a clear ball BB
eight and put the guinea pig inside as if it's
a hamster, you know, driving him around. I think that
would be hilarious.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I don't know, if you had a pog filter for
your guinea pigs on your phone, you could just turn
them into.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Oh, there you go, there you go. But yeah, so
that was that was where I was last weekend. It
was lots of lots of fun. I mean, I would
have recorded changed the recording time to another time, but
somebody lives in the UK, so it's a little little difficult.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
But well, to keep on theme and also to escalate
this because obviously, you know, you know Philip with with
his convention and then Darren did the big thing at
that bigger convention. You know, guys, I too went to
a convention and it was the big flea market convention
in town.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
That's it. That's my story. It wasn't very exciting.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
But there was one star you can find some Star
Trek stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
There are g Star Trek things there, so they had
like original TS toys and stuff, and I'm like, I'm
not into that, so uh no, thanks.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
And there was one booth that had like a lot
of custom artwork stuff and they had almost got there
there they had a t G I said something about
being on the bridge.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
It's like kind of like an advertisement sort of thing.
It was really cool. It was really, really really cool.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
It was just something that they made, but they had
a bunch of different art But anyways, that was it.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
That wasn't very exciting.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Honestly, we bought a flamingo, a fake plastic flamingo.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
It's like huge. I don't know why, but anyways, that's
my that was what we did, but that's not what
people want to listen to. And one brings up Comic Con,
and there was some Star Trek news that happened at
Comic Con. So that'll roll us right into our topics.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
And let's talk about the state of Star Trek now,
because we did get some solid information about what's coming
up here and some sneak peaks. So where do you
guys want to start? Do you want to band aid
this and Friendship Day, Friendship Day.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Doctor Who and Star Trek together?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yes, yes, that's right. I brief like this is just yeah, no,
I'll explain that because I've heard it, but I didn't
get the whole synopsis, so I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
I mean, I don't know like the like the genesis
of the whole thing is like why not? Like but
like you know, obviously, you know, my ears perk up
when like suddenly my chocolate and peanut butter is being
mixed together because it was Russell T.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Davies.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
For those who don't know, the current showrunner of Doctor
Who and Alex Kurtzman, which is kind of weird in
some of the covers, like show running, Like he's not
what I would call a show runner, like to my knowledge,
and look, the man run Star Trek. Now I'm not
trying to like blittle that, but like he doesn't write
for anything, Like he doesn't write any of the episodes, right, maybe.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
He doesn't care. I don't know how.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Much show as a showrunner.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
And he's just like the Grand Pooba Star Trek, which
is fine, but anyway, I was like the two.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Shirt brand manager.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, and I'm like, it's not really sure, like Russell
writes half of Doctor but anyway, apparently they just had this.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
You call it series, we call it season. It's very different.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
But yeah, it was just an event. I mean, nothing
per se means little stuff like there was a nice
little video kind of mesh Doctor Who in Star Trek
together and you know, the positive messages of both and
then sort of like as far as like the outputs
because she's like, oh god, what could you it was?
I mean, I'm not complaining, but it was sort of
like in the Phone Games, you know there's the uh

(13:55):
Doctor Who, I forget what it's called a phone game
app I played but then got tired of it. And
then there's the lower decks phone game. And so now
they're having Daniel crossovers. Now on the lower decks one
I'm playing the tenth Doctor has showed up with the target.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
You if it's not a you hold your phone up
and I hold my phone up and we get a
proprietary cable and connect it. And that's the only way
we can collect all one fifty one characters. If it's
not that I don't want it.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
I don't want it.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, they So this isn't the first time, right, because
we we we have seen in the past there was
a comic crossover between Star Trek and Doctor Who.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah, yeah, that was with the Cybermen and Board. Yeah,
eleventh eleventh Doctor. Yes, it was eleventh Doctor and gg
oh that's right.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
It was like the Cybermen and the Board teamed up
or something like that, which sounds terrifying.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah, And I mean, and of course there, as we've
referred to, there was this potential of an enterprise Doctor
Who crossover at some point that you know, I think
had was discussion stay at least, and probably not got
any further than that but anyway, so yeah, but that
was it. I mean, that was you know, so it's
just a two properties just having a hug.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
That was basically it.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
That would have been interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
What a wild ride that would have been if like
if God puts the Ninth Doctor's name, if Eckleston just
showed up on yeah, on Enterprise, like what the heck
is going on here?

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Like that would be a very different sort of Oh yeah,
it would have been just strange. I'd be sweet.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
But it would have worked because I go, this is
you know, echoes there the Ninth Doctor, of course, having
a I mean he's many things, but having somewhat of
a darker tone than say ten and eleven, and then Enterprise,
especially as Indy or having a dark It could have,
you know, meshed those tones together.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I could have seen that. That'd have been cool.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't think we'll see a live action crossover anytime soon,
but if we did, I mean you could you can
throw out of the new guy right in the tartists
in Strange New Worlds?

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Why not? That'd be fun.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Yeah, I mean and archid.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Arose two days in the past now, I mean, the
man's been working forever, but in his early time. I
first time around Doctor Who, not a huge fan of
Star Trek, just be good stuff that I've read or
stuff that he's wrote that I've read. But anyway, but
apparently nowadays in the twenty twenties, he is now a
proponent of Star Trek and so I think he you know,

(16:22):
and again on the Doctor Who podcasts here but like
we there was a Doctor Who's new spinoff announced kind
of like which we'll talk about a TV movie basically
our mini series and so you know, and Russell did
the original spinoffs the first time to torch would Sarahgane
Adventures class I forget if that was during his time,

(16:43):
but anyway, so that's something he's interested in. Course, for
those who don't know, Doctor Who has a Disney partnership now,
so that's why you can now watch Doctor Who and
Disney plus if you don't live in the UK.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
And so, I mean you moved there for no reason, Philip.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
You could have just stayed watch it for free here.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's why you go to the UK, we understand.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, So look, I don't think anyth's gonna happen, but
the conditions are there, as.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'll I'll say, yeah, Well, obviously they're they're probably chumming.
Maybe they're not buddies, who knows, but I would love
our game. That'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
But of course it's probably more like print media or
if they ever if there was any sort of tangible
sort of something that comes out of it.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
But yeah, that's cool, that's cool stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Anything else in The Doctor Who Land you go wall
Wait wait, you said the spinoff that's a isn't it
like Martha or or Martha adjacent characters or something?

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Is that? Is that what I heard?

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Not really, No, it's I'm gonna get the title wrong,
but it's like something like war on Land and Sea
or something. It's the for those No Doctor Who. It's
the Solarians who were basically the well, there's two Solarians.
This is the ones that live in the water versus
the ones who don't live in the world but anyway,
and so they claim Earth as being their home, and

(17:56):
so apparently it's it takes place in sort of a
hand quoting Modern Doctor Who's so like now, it's not
like future or past, it is now Earth. And so
you'll have people from the unit that are in the
current series that people would know if you're watching Doctor
Who now, and so yeah, it'll go from there about
how unit So it's that's sort of a unit show,
not really a Doctor Who.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
So yeah, though he will show up, I assume again
it's one.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Of those things in the same as Star Trick, and
we'll talk about I don't like anyone necessarily asked for.
But so it's not like I'm like uber excited, but
I'm like, okay, sure, you know, sure.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Well, speaking of since you mentioned TV movies, let's just
do it.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Let's let's talk about it. There was a trailer for
Section thirty one, and you've kind of kind of been
nice about it. I'm not gonna be nice. I decided
I don't care, and I mean, you know, I won't
be derogatory, but I mean, come on, what are we
what are we doing here?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
What do you guys think of the trailer for Section
third stars.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Just literally yeah, it's you know, it's interesting. I honestly
think the biggest strike against the Section thirty one thing
is the delay. Like if this had come out in
the middle of uh Discovery, it would at least kind

(19:19):
of jibed a little more. But it's been so long
since that drop happened. And I still remember the episode
of Discovery when we went to the mirror and Andrew
Jau was like, oh, Joe's back. And although every time
we saw a mirror or shoe, I think we always
just missed prime your Joe and we wish he had

(19:40):
been around longer. At least that's how I felt. So, yeah, it,
it's a different tone. Uh modern would be one word
you could use. Uh, yeah it. You know, I'm not
gonna knock it in the fact that, like said Philip,

(20:00):
you know, I don't know who asked for this, but
some you know, here it is. But I'm never gonna
be upset with more Star Trek, Like we've been getting
so much Star Trek, so much Star Wars right now,
so I'm sure somebody will enjoy it. I will probably
just rewatch all of lower decks combined in the amount
of time, but that's fine. I have that choice. So, yeah,

(20:24):
it doesn't look that interesting to me, it I maybe,
And we'll talk about the stage two worlds in a moment.
But I've mentioned in other trailers that I really like
the play a scene for a trailer to get a vibe,
Like if you pick the right scene, you're like Okay,

(20:45):
that's what that's going to be. Like, maybe this show
would have been better with that instead of the standard montage,
you know, because I don't I don't know any of
these characters. I don't know, like I don't know what
to expect, and the fact that it's a movie slash,
it's not a series anymore, Like I don't know what

(21:07):
to expect, and that just makes it hard to want
to go into this blind it.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
And again, yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say I
have an open mine.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
I'm like, I'm not gonna like.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
It, but but I think just trying to be slightly objective.
As I watched the trailer, I'm like, Okay, it looks
like there's it seems it's a trailer. You can't tell everything,
but it seems like it's a prequel to Georgia or
Mayor Georgia, let's be specific. And so we'll see this
Mayor universe, which personally don't care about. But okay, if

(21:46):
you're interested in this character, you're gonna see how she
came to be the Emperor, which I mean, long story short.
The trailer feels like, look, we were gonna do a series,
but we smushed into the movie because like there's I'm like,
if you do her prequel and then whatever her adventure
because it's a movie call only one. I mean, that's
a lot, so I forget, I don't know how long

(22:06):
this movie's supposed to be, because it's like pretty equol.
You could do like flashbacks in every episode that then
build up whatever theme you're trying to build with the
current adventure. But like if you're doing both, I'm like, okay,
well that'll be fun. And then from what we can
tell against trailer the current adventure, which I still don't
know when it's precisely said, because if you have Captain Garrett,

(22:31):
which I don't don't actually know which character that was
in the trailer, but like I don't know how the
time work. I mean, I'm who cares? Well, I do,
of course I care, but like I don't know how
the time works because she's not that old.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
I mean like she was.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
A captain in what mid twenty fourth century?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I mean, how old can she forgot?

Speaker 4 (22:46):
She was even in the show.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
And with your Joe, like was she in the future?
I mean her, you know, are we supposed to be
Simu for her?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Like that?

Speaker 4 (22:56):
This is the thing like great question there.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Lands go ahead. Yeah, like just like I mean, I
feel sympathetic for Lorca. Lorca was very interesting in the
bit that we got of him, Like it could go
either way, like where you're but Georgeau has always been
played as like this terrible, terrible person, and I'm like, okay,
I don't see any redeem redemption, Like so I don't

(23:22):
I just don't care.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
I was just gonna say, that's just the line in
the trailer where they specifically saying you murdered millions of
your own people.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
So yeah, she's pretty bad. She's she's a pretty bad person.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
But then I can tell, well, tell, I can't tell
anything what the trailer would present to me as a
view or I can phrase it in that odd way
is that, Oh, here's young Georgeau and I'm reading a
lot into it. That's her dad and he got killed
and then she, you know, unwillingly became the emperor and
had to assume and then it was the struggle and

(23:56):
like again, man, I bet you're Stalin pretty cute kid
when he was a boy, But like, you know, I
don't know what you're trying to do to me here. Yeah,
I mean this is sort of the current trend of
like you go to Disney, like, oh, Ruela Deville, she
wasn't so bad, you know, or you know. But then
I'm like, this is what this movie feels like. It's
and sometimes she's cool, yeah, genocide you.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Know, well you think of like Loki, like Loki, you know,
or even yeah. It's it's now the thing that we
can't have villain villains. It's everyone has to be redeemable.
It's like, oh, how interesting would it be if this character?
And then you get things like Kylo Wren, which does
a lot of terrible, terrible things, and I'm like, and

(24:40):
I think they didn't get the balance right because by
the end you're like, no, no, I don't really feel this.
Characters redeemed in the last thirty seconds of their life,
you know, to become a force ghost. But but that's
where Darth you do get when you do get a
villain that is like a right up, like bad person,

(25:03):
and they we want to see villains. And I'm speaking
for myself, you know, the royal we the mean I
want to see about this about that, you know, they
get their come up. It's that's what I want to see.
I don't want to see them redeemed or the complexities
of their their life, like sometimes the story only needs

(25:24):
a villain that's you know, oh, they have a black
black hat on, they're the bad guy. Like that's that's enough.
So I think, I know, And the way you guys
reacted when I said it, like, am I supposed to
feel sympathetic for this character? I think that is the
million dollar question.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Because then I think the trailer itself answers the question.
After that it's like, oh, you're a badass bitch, blah
blah blah blah blah. And it's like, and look, I
get Michelle Yeao is a badass bitch, you know, award
winner and rightly so. But like the character, I think,
and look, you know, this is our opinions, and obviously
listeners can have their own, please please do. But I

(26:01):
think that was always the issue in Discovery because it
was Georgio introduced as this you know, villain per Se
who had these sort of wives basically like the Queue
of Discovery if you want to, But then there was
this sort of i mean, I'm calling it odd, this
odd Michael connection, whereas Michael wanted her to be good

(26:23):
or to have this connection for whatever reason, and then
that sustained that character to then make that character quote
unquote good. And so then at the end, in that
last character's episode on Discovery with the Guardian of Forever,
it's like, oh, this is reformed Georgia because she goes
back to the Mayor universe and she can't be as
bad as she wants to because she'd been touched by Michael,

(26:45):
and you know, her heart grew four sizes that day,
and you.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Know, and I do.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I'm slightly making fun of it, and I'm not saying
it's not an illegitimate story, but I'm saying that's where
you go, because then I think you have difficulty then
with that character. Then year, oh she's bad again. Okay,
which one is it?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
The heart or bad?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Refreshed my memory because I don't remember that at all.
I like, I don't remember her becoming good or at
least thinking that she she was good at all, like
because because she was in our prime universe. But at
the end, the last time we saw her, she was
in our universe still, right is that?

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Isn't that correct?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
But then the Guardians sent her back to the married
universe this episode.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
I don't even remember that. I mean it happened, but
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
It, yeah, because I can't remember if that was the
season you guys missed it now, But anyway, so yeah,
because if you remember very quickly, so it's like she
was presented with the issue that she was starting to
fall apart, like genetically and whatever because she was now
in the future. And the explanation that director guy with
the glasses explained was that because the Mary universe had

(27:52):
branched off so far from her Nelt where she was
in the future, her you know, cohesion was falling apart
or something, you know, blah blah blah, technic tech, and
so in order to fix her, they somehow ended up
on uh, I forget it's it's a funny name that
I can't remember now. It was the Guardian Forever, but
it was like a regular guy. I can't it wasn't Bob,

(28:14):
but it was something like that, and they didn't know
that was like that was.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
The Charles or something, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Something like that, and you find it until the end
of that was the Guardian, even though it was obvious.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
But anyway, but.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
He sent her to the maryor he sent her to
the marry universe for that episode.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
That's right now that I remember that subplot now that
she was decompiling because reasons, and so they had to
send her back. So but but again, and that's where
we were all like, so, where is the section thirty
one show that we've been told about, because she's.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Not did she not come?

Speaker 1 (28:49):
She game?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
If the ending episode she comes out of the Guardian
having made to be a good person, that's right, but
you know, anyway, and then like she has to make
a choice about do you live like you know, da
da da, and then she decides to just jump into
the Guardian. I really can't remember them said, so I'm
doing a bad job, I know. But anyway, but she
she basically says goodbye to Michael really quickly and then

(29:10):
jumps in and then that's how it ends.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Wait a minute, she was not okay, was this right
before the finale or something?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
No, no, it was like a season before I think, no, no, no,
not sorry not.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
For some reason, I had like a vague memory of her,
like didn't a bunch of people leave the ship before
they were going to jump into the future, And like,
wasn't she like on like that?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
No she was not.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
She was she went to the future with them.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
She went to the future. Okay, yeah, then I don't
I have my memory all mix.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I do remember she went to the future because I
also remember that also beg a moment where I'm like,
but how section thirty would shoe if in the future?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
Okay, so it is in the future. Okay, well whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
So yeah, I don't know the setting for section thirty one.
So maybe it's early twenty fourth century for all I know.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I mean maybe, but I don't know. My gut is
telling me, well, no, it has to because Rachel Garrett. Ohkay,
never mat, I don't This was supposed to be short.
Let's go out of the next one.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Okay, Well, I'll just say that I just liked it.
Ummmmm yeah, let's move on to something a little bit.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I will say. We don't have a date though, do we?

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Oh, good question. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I'm not going to watch the trailer again to look
for a date, okay.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Because the only date that jumps up, I mean, we'll
talk about it. I only saw one date for any
of these trailers, and that was October twenty something for
Lower Decks. Yeah, but like Strange New Worlds was like yep,
this is the thing, and section thirty one is yes,
is the thing.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
I mean, I get it. It's obvious. It's section thirty one,
twenty five. Don't forget this is a thing.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
It says coming soon.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, but what is it?

Speaker 4 (30:39):
That's what it says.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
So uh yeah, I mean whatever. I guess I'll sit
down and watch for an hour and a half. But
I agree that I don't understand why we should care
about Georgia other than she should be in prison.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
No, I did say, which I mean, it's only to
myself so I can break it. But anyway that when
section thirty one came out, I would then watch the
last episode, well last season of the Discovery because I
don't have Paramount Plus, because why everything's on Netflix here
in the UK.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
So you know, sometime in the unpursuit for Seen Future
you will have to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, so shure that'll be my week or two weeks
of Paramount Plus.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
So I don't think they come in weak chunks. I
think you do have to subscribe for a whole month.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Yes, yes, what do they call a month in the UK?
Philip billy Wick A fortnite?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I mean that's you know, okay, so moving on to
to to.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
To Lower Decks.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
So we knew, we know, we know, this is the
final season of Lower Decks.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I don't know anything, Daniel.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Look, I mean it's fine, Hey, go out when you're
on top possibilities, when you're doing good. So there was
a lot of what was shown was sort of like
a it's a clips I guess.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You'd see a lot of it was previous seasons, a
lot of from season one actually, which is kind of weird.
It's like, yeah, like that's I feel like the tone
has kind of changed since season one. But whatever. The
lens in there, so.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
They were like mocking like the idea that this was
their last season even though it was their last season,
and like, you know, I guess it's funny, but like
this is actually the last season, so maybe, you know,
maybe this is their way of showing us that it
was not their choice to but but yeah, so we
got a little bit of that you guys excited for,

(32:29):
you're obviously excited for, but you see anything you.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Like, I mean, like, I guess what are the references
that that I quickly got. It was there was a
good it's a stupid thing called the jail from.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
The bio gel from Enterprise, which it was perfect.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
There was like two or three others that just quick.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
What was it? There's the biogel and the ling on stuff. Yeah,
I need Oh.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
There was another Currito captain by.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, yeah it was. I just can't remember them, but
they were funny. I mean, it's gonna be great and
it'll be sad.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It will be sad. October twenty fourth is when Lower
Dex is coming.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
So are we getting less Star Trek of twenty twenty four?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Are we gonna get Yeah, we're gonna Are they gonna
drop it all once? I can't remember how they do this?
Do they do it weekly? I don't remember how they
did it last time?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Weekly?

Speaker 3 (33:23):
They did a weekly, right, because we didn't watch it,
did we would have been shit? I think if it
was all I think they dropped them weekly.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
So I'm trying to remember because I remember the well
Darren answer it was. Was it last season or the
season before? I can't remember. No, it was like two
before with the Mystery of the Ship that kept blowing
everybody up, because that one came out week to week
because I remember it being like like, what's happening? You know?
So I don't think lower DECKX has dropped all at

(33:51):
once in a while.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, so we'll get we'll get weekly episodes for ten
weeks or whatever they do, so I guess.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Always ten weeks unless they change the last time.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Now that we I don't know who you want to
talk about it yet, but I guess there was additional
news about Tawny, so oh yeah, we'll.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Talk about that. So we'll talk about that.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
But let's get into unless there's anything else, because there
wasn't really much to cover them.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
A couple of quick jokes and.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
No, yeah that's true. Just yeah, it was more of
a we're back.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I guess here's here's an over under much. I'm probably
not using that phrase correctly, but like, do you guys
think this is truly the end?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
Yeah, of course I do. I mean, yeah, probably are
ending it for a reason.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, no, it's ind because paramount told them to.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
But I'm saying no, Well, I.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Mean I'm a paramount chose to do this, like like
from a production, whether it's not profitable or for whatever reason,
with like all the shifting management stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I mean, what I guess is, you know, as time
goes on, like they're they're probably at the end of
the contract, so keeping all of the stars is now
more expensive. And you know, it's just I'm a surprise.
We got five seasons, Like that's a lot nowadays, so
usually I mean anything that's on streaming only like Netflix

(35:04):
or whatever, like two is I mean maybe what you're
gonna get.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Everyone knows the goal is of course six seasons in
a movie.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
That's rights.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
But I'm gonna say that the guy who does the
voice of uh Boimler is busy in these days, right,
But he's doing He's in the Boys and he does
he was.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
The Superman on the New Suprime cartoon, so he's very busy.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, no, I do feel I mean, while I'm sad,
and yes, with animation you could keep going. Honestly, I
would love some sort of spin off that's like focusing
more on the still animated, but kind of like a
mix between like Prodigy and Lower Decks where it's it's

(35:50):
and we've said it all before, like hey, if you
want to get every book's back, like make him animated,
like any of these, like think of all the actors
that are still around that could animate whatever age they
need to be. But I don't know, I mean lower decks.
I was glad we got it. I remember at the
very beginning we were all like, what what is it?

(36:11):
What is this show? But then what is this show?
It captured captured our hearts.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
By the way, not Star Trek, but I will say
Orble season four is kind of confirmed, so that's true.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
I did see that kind of confirmed.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, I mean I think it's confirmed, said that they
are starting production in January Scott Rhyme style.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Yeah, yeah, I did see an interview.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I don't god, this must have been a while ago,
maybe a year ago even, but they were talking to
the lady the ad Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and she
was talking about how miserable this has been for her
because like they're all still contracted, I guess, and and
so like really limits what she's able to do because
this has been in limbo.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
For so long.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's like blank or get off the pop.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
So okay, I remember that interview. Yeah, part of it
was the contract. Part of it was just it was
so piecemeal, like working around everyone's schedules, like it just
it needed to just kind of end. And maybe that's
how this fourth season came about. Where they were like hey,
it's going to be at this time, like it's all
it's less spread out, but I don't know it's you.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Know, like how it's such a star trek show. They've
actually repeated Deep Space nine of having the co stars
briefly marry and divorce.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
So I mean, you just.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Can't get more star treks who got married Adrian and
Scott Grimes.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, oh I didn't know that he's a pilot dude, right.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yea, yeah, yeah, I think they're getting Look I'm not
making fun everything it was.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
It was two seconds.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, it was not very long, which I think was
approximately how Nana and Sadig were married too, so I
can't Yeah, well at.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Least they didn't have a kid, you know.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
Put it in the show.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Moving on, we got the last trailer we got well,
like you said earlier, Darren, wasn't really a trailer. Was
more of just a scene of lower decks or sorry
no Strange.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Worlds acting very lower totally.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Very lower decks.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
I think my thought is this Strange New World gets
to hijinks episodes this season.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
So like if I.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Thought like this that's this is the show, I'd be like,
m this is But I'm like I'm like, ok, you
did a musical in a cartoon. I'm not going to
grudge you the one funny Vulcan episode, which, by the way,
funny Vulcan episode not been done.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
So let's do this.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
What are you talking about that funny funny Vulcan episode
I've been done. What about take me out to the
hollow suite?

Speaker 1 (38:43):
What about Wait we have this example. It's called utification.
Guys return data and picard into vulcans with hilarious or
I'm just kidding, it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
They were robbulins, not to the vulcans.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh, that's right, that's right. But yeah, this this clip
was hilarious. And I've said it before. I really like
it when shows or movies just give you a scene
and I mean it was the pipe there.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Look, that's that's what it was. I like everything else
would have been like okay, and it's like, really you're
gonna do like okay, all right, guys just having fun here,
we're just having fun here.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well and and I'm assuming this wasn't edited. It was
literally just how it would play out. Because I love
the fact that they didn't show the planet like they
go down the planet, take care of business and are
back up, you know, super fast. But yeah, the whole
you know how much I was.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Reminded that I'm carrying all the equipment when they come back.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
By the way, you'll notice it was great.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Yeah, I mean I thought it was a little over
the top, which is funny.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It's that's why I said, like, but you get too so.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
The funniest part of the of the scene for me
was now definitely not the vulcan acting. It was the
It was the fact that they were only down there
for two seconds and they were so efficient as.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah. No, I like the efficiency, but my favorite was
when they're like it with straight serious tones like please
be four and one half Vulcans down to the like
you gotta say it every time every time. This is
why I spot left.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Look this we got to remember the guy was bullied
out of his own was.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
They just don't like humans? I guess, But that's okay,
so yeah, I guess. So we you know, we saw that,
and there's not much news about stranging the world or nothing.
There's no new cast joining that we know, and.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
We don't have a date, do we I mean per se,
I mean we we sort of brushed aside because we've
known so long. But there was a new member was
there in the scene.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Scotty?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Yeah, ye, Scotty was there. He thought it was funny
that they all had twenty years.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Oh that was Scotty. Yes, oh yeah, Oh okay, I didn't.
I mean, I vaguely remember that announcement, but I saw
that person and thought it was crewman. Be just like
Scottish crewmen. You know, every Scottish crewman is Scotty. I'm
not a no, I would never do that, but no,
I did not realize that that's Scotty. So okay, I
have to watch it again. Twist my arm and see

(41:13):
the Scotty, the scottishness.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah, yeah, so that was strange. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Now I'm just picturing him talking to Kirk when Kirk
eventually becomes captain. He's like, let me tell you some
crazy stories from the Pike era. You won't believe. It.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Seems like every other week we had a musical, or
we were turning into a fairy tale.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Everybody want a vulcan.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
The Enterprise incident, which I think Scotti is the first
person to see Kirk as a romulant. Yeah, I was
thinking they've been like, well, I haven't seen the others
like a lot since Coppton Pike turned into a vocal.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Uh yeah, so that Stranger worlds we as far as
we know, we're getting some more of that at some
point beyond season four.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
So well, I'm assuming January or maybe December, because if
Strange if Lower Decks is October, and that's ten weeks,
that's like two and a half months. That kind of
puts us into January territory.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The only reason I said is Picard usually hit around
February March.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
The card is not a show anymore.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I know that was sort of the paramount kind of
sweet spot. Oh yeah, because I think Discovery was late
in April in this all memory, I might be wrong,
but I think the card usually February March.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
Hey, we didn't get any surprise, you know, Star Trek
Legacy or Packcard season four or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
So they're actually done, which is good. I'm happy with that.
Let's just yeah where it's.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I mean, you know, cheers to the fans that pushed
for it, and that's how things do happen. Apparently, So
we got Strange New World, so you know, not necessarily
my cup at real Gray. Will, I feel like we're
far enough now I can I can do Slight Prodigy
spoilers because it's I'm not even done yet, so midway through.
Did get Beverly, so that was very interesting.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
She shows up.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, and this is this is you know, the timeline
that we're in. So it was old Beverly, you know,
and that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
So Wesley, that's also Middish Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Wesley, Yeah, yeah at this time. I mean, like I said,
I haven't finished yet, so I feel like I can
do spoilers because it's been a month. I'm only midway through,
so yeah, yeah, lots of Wesley, lots of Wesley.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Does it explain why he's not a ball of light or.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Oh he's all it's it's like traveler Wesley.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
Oh yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
This is this is Picard, you know, the great Doctor
who ish if you if you me Philip very doctor Who?
I mean, And I think I haven't seen the articles.
I'm sorry for the thing here, but like Doddie Groshan,
but I think someone told me so it's here. Say
that Will Wheaton was saying I was doing this as
Doctor Who, and I'm like, I didn't need to be

(43:53):
told that trust when you watch him one hundred like
the same per se any uh.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Specifically, he's running around going like, oh my gosh, you
guys are here. Time is later, Oh the time is now? Oh,
here we go like it is. He's basically being a
time lord or acting has many time lords have in
the past, which isn't bad. I I enjoyed this. I've
actually seen a lot of people really positively respond to
his portrayal of Wesley in this interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
It feels like kind of op right, like couldn't he
just do whatevery like couldn't you just bring everybody back
to like you know, maybe he can't.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I guess I don't extend yeah without getting to the
we can because I think we're going off of Picard
what was established there that he is a what do
they call not guardians traveler now but like guardians like
because basically.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Whatever the Guardian Club. Yeah, I know that's that's the
right name.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
But anyway, the people who use the safe elevator, like
Gary seven, because that's like the card Uh what's her?
I can't remember her name, but anyway, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Yea her.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
That's that he's part of that group. That's what travelers are.
Is that group whatever they're called, I can't remember because yeah,
because you see the safe and the tartist safe, I
don't know, whatever you want to call it. But anyway,
so yeah, but he's that, just like he recruited, Well,
I can't remember character's name recruited.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
What's her name? Data's not daughter? We remember these shows,
so well, yeah, daughter was cold.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
You know, soon the twenty first century, soon, you know whatever,
who got recruited by Wesley.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Real fans. No, Data's real daughter anyways, so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
But yeah, let's move on from from project. Well, yeah,
but then we talked about Prodigy. You're almost ruined my transitioner, folks.
I was going to say, one show featuring Bob Paccardo
to us future show that's going to be. We got
some casting announcements for Starfleet Academy.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
We already knew.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Tilly was going to be in there, right, Yeah, we assumed. Yeah,
she was the first one. I think we were told.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
So so apparently Bobacardo, Takna Taro, and oh dead Fair,
I guess I say same, Uh.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
The attractive man of the beard.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Yeah, are all going to be in it, so presumably
I assume, which all three of.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Those were not on my bingo card for being on
that show.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
But hey, and then of course, I mean that's that's
Holly Hunter.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
These money who holds you?

Speaker 4 (46:30):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. We didn't talk about all those
the other people that were cast as well, but and
then the there was a no names.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
But I mean, I'm sure we're of all very good
actors who will be playing the cadets, so.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
We will learn to love.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
Yeah, there's so there's a whole bunch of people. So
I guess what.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
I guess most of these people are going to be
cast as presumably because they're all adults, are our professors?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Maybe no, there, I mean the Holly Hunter, I think
is going to be like the commandant and like what
if you call her? And then I think Giamani is
the villain. I don't know who he is, but he
is the villains the villain. And then the twenty thirty
somethings are the cadets.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
You know, they're okay, but like Bob and uh.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Probably going to be a he's going to be the doctor,
right sub version, do not know, do not know, but
my assumption would be that he would be teaching medicine.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
He would be teaching medical He's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Teaching holographic ethics or holographic ethics.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I mean Tilly is also going to be a teacher, right,
and I assume is going to engineering.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
She's going to be teaching history.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
So I assume a lot of these characters.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Are it's like Saved by the Bill when they went
to college.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
That's what it's going to be.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Or I don't know, Daniel, for you, you'd be what
Boy Meets World goes to college, right, sure?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
Sure, yeah, well yeah, they didn't need to make a whole.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Who's the mister Feenie that's still following them all of time?

Speaker 4 (47:59):
I don't know, it would be what I guess, maybe
it late.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I think, yeah, uh So this takes place in the
future as well.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Right in the rebuilding of star Fleet Discovery time zone
thirty seconds.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
So Bob is getting two of the new star Trek shows.
That's good for him, good for him.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
What is Yell's instinct? Is he doctor Prime or future
or the alternate future doctor?

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Good question? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
I mean I wanted to be memory module that was
found in a junk drawer so he doesn't anything except
for like, you know, five minutes after Voyager got home
and then they unplugged him and it's like a backup
from that, So he doesn't know anything that's happened in
like the last.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Hundreds of years is just human alpha or whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
The person one. Okay, the star is a joke, but
the more I'm talking about it, the more it actually
makes sense because he he is prime star Fleet, like
he knows like how student officers should act, and their
whole point is rebuilding with the tenets of the past
and the things that they'd lost. So we know, I

(49:11):
say joking, but it's actually I think that'd be kind
of cool.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
It can't be right from home because that would class
what see what we know in Prodigy because he still
continues on and no.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
No, I know that. I'm just saying this is a
different doctor. Okay, So I'm saying, like a memory module
got turned off right after they got home, so he
has zero knowledge of what's happened after the end of Voyager.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Yeah, that would be confusing because like the Doctor B
or like the Doctor one B, like he would be
he would still be the doctor, but also kind of
uh and then how do.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
You explain the.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I'll respect to mister Riccarter the oldness.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Right, they're obviously going to like maybe if they do
it like they did Q where.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
He professor should be more mature.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah, but like when he kind of like when he
what he did the emergency command hologram and he grew
those pips, he would.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Just or oh maybe would be hilarious if he gets
there and he's like I thought of doing like a
touch of gray on half, you know, comes in with
the pipe shoes. But then I thought, you know, there's
not a lot going on up here, so that would
be funny that data did.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Ah welcome good deaths to an exciting you know syllabus
of the Inner Ear Part one of thirty two, of
thirty two.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
So this show is shaping up to be. I mean,
it's got a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
I mean, I still think we got a couple of
years until this show comes out, right, It's like, well it's.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
So it's being it's being filmed in this fall, so.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Presumably at least a year for special attacks, like a
whole three hundred and sixty five.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Yeah, so twenty six is worth.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Maybe how do yall feel, because I first it was like, oh,
I didn't ask for the show.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
I mean, I'm not trying to be a negative person,
but like I'm like a discovery, but like they're stacking.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
This thing that I'm like, I mean, we'll see maybe.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I mean, I'm not really thirty seconds since it was
not my time to play, but I will see.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I don't know, yeah, I'll see how the tone is,
like when the trailers come out and stuff for sure,
because like you like, I don't sort of care about.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
The timeline there and what's going on, but if.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
You know, if they're bringing cool people back and new
new cool characters as well, I'll check it out, see
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
I mean, it's funny because we've all championed for a
an Academy show forever, we just never thought it would
be in this era. Be careful, yeah exactly, But you know,
I don't know. I start, Trek has ways of pulling
things out of a hat and us not thinking it
was something we wanted and it actually being pretty good.

(51:55):
So I'm gonna give it a shake.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Yeah, I mean, the reverse is true. And again only
speak for myself. Picard and I'm like, yeah, and then
I watched it, I'm like maybe not so, and.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
So yeah, this is it?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
I mean yeah, I mean like the premise.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
I say with Picard, you could almost watch three seasons
and see three completely different shows, because it kind of
was like, if you just wanted to watch season two
and just live in that world, that's fine. If you
wanted just season three, sure, who do that.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I feel like this is like the excuse the metaphor
the blind people with the elephant, like describe an elephant, like,
please describe Star Trek p cards like, Oh, it's this
interesting spy.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
No, no, it's this in the time jumping.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
No, no, it's this nostalgic enterprised you.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
But yeah, I wonder it seems.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Like and again this is just me opinion editorializing, like
it seems like this is the the investment, like this
is the show like start, this is going to be
the show for Star Trek.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Feels like it.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Will be the anchor show because I feel like even
by then probably will well, we'll know that maybe Strange
Worlds is coming to an end, you know, obviously we
already have shows their ending soon.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
We don't know, you know.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I just feel like it's gonna be like a maybe
if there's like a second wave or like a or
more that come behind it.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
But I feel I think you're right.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I think if strange, that's a really I think that's
the bigger question is how many more seasons of Stranger
Worlds are we going to get? Five? The new seven?
It might be, it might be, yeah, I mean, is
it gonna even get to five?

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Because like three I mean ordered Strange New Worlds. I mean, oh, you're.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Right, sorry, yes, they have ordered four. Okay, that's that's true.
I had forgotten that it got the season four order
because it's weird because I don't know. I kind of
expected Stranger Worlds to kind of slide over into the
main seat too, but I guess we got to live
in the future.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. So that's it
for now.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
But one more when we're serious to talk about my
miss what a name is?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Oh? This is this is not? This is the Tawny News.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Oh that's right, she's right. Do we know what it is?

Speaker 1 (54:06):
But what's it?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Was very famous? I don't want to ignore him. I
don't know someone's to google that when I'm talking justin
because he's the guy who did White People. I can't remember,
y'all look it up what I'm talking, but it was Tawny, uh,
you know, a newsome from lower decks. Because the news
now this is me talking. I maybe getting it wrong.
So here's he hearsay. Initially the news was that she

(54:29):
was going to be writing for Academy on the writing staff.
But you remember that may or may not still be true.
But now the new news is she is now I mean,
I can is she show running, co writing? I don't know,
but basically writing at least with Justin's name.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
A new The way I'm getting it is a live
action comedic star Trek series where they are The way
I basically got it is like it's focused on it's
not Risa but metaphorically Risa, and this is the staff
of the of that sort of plan like.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Facility the hotel, like a hotel show.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
But they have found out that they are being that
they're going ons are being broadcast elsewhere. So basically like
they're in you know, it's like a Truman show basically
is what it sounds like. So that's that's the premise
I got.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Interesting. So you have like Klingons checking in for a week,
and is.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
It like faulty to young feel but faulty Towers.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
And I think faulty Tower. I can't. It's a really
interesting premise, like Justin Simeon.

Speaker 4 (55:38):
Is his name?

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Sorry? I got that on.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Yes. Also, I had no idea, but she did write.
She already wrote for Starfleet Academy. She was talking about
outing in the writer's room for that. I had idea
she was a writer. I didn't know that. Did she
write for Lower Dexidal?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Well, I think it's one of those things commedia. I
don't know her background. I mean, comedic actis obviously.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Improv and but I'm sure she.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Had influence on Lower Decks. I'm almost positive, dear white people. Sorry,
so trying to think of Justin's background.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Yeah, yeah, developing workplace comedy for Trick.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
So that's all we know. But that is something. And
you know who.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Knows workplace comedy as if isn't Starfleet their work star
Trek's always worked work in space.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
This basically sounds and I mean I'm not any know
it is what it is. It's like the office, I mean,
which of course office has spawned every other copy, which
is I'm not saying a derogatory some of the show
has been parks and rec blah blah blah, you know,
even like Avid Elementary. Arguably to use a show that's
still not in the air is an office you know type,
you know, documentary, you know what we do in the shadows,

(56:46):
the sort of conceit of like we are being followed
by a documentary crew.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
We do documentarian comedy is is very popular right now.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
So I mean that's basically what this sounds like. The
Star Trek the office if you're in the short handed,
which they will of course, but anyway, so yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
That's obviously years away, but we'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
So so Star Trek is certainly not dying, even though
for maybe a little bit it seemed like things weren't
looking up.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
But uh, you know, we'll see, We'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, we have is it literally gonna be called new Paramount?
I swear it is New Paramount. Eye Rolls will theoretically
be official in the spring. This is sorry, let me
back for I'm sure people know if you don't know,
So the sale of Paramount.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
To that other that other.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Company, Jesus not a bad robot, no, yeah, but the
other one, Dance, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Sky Dance. That's it.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
So Skydance has bought Paramount Global. I believe it's the
official name and so blah blah blah, corporate corporate, corporate
sale is not official until I think February March of
twenty five, and then it will be new Paramount. I
swear that's the name, New Paramount.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
And Plus well, and then we don't know, oh, dash
dash from there.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
I mean theoretically, sky Dance is the most star Trek
friendly of all of the options that were on the table.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
True, So what is there will be star Trek, It's
just what will it be?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
And yeah, exactly what's the future of Paramount Plus don't know,
don't know, don't know, dashtash dash But anyway, that's just one.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Of the streaming service Sky Paramount or they just.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Start or they just start, you know, licensing like you
know others do, and then it's.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Back to Netflix. Back to Netflix, I mean, one less
streaming service. That would be fantastic, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah, I mean that's and I've said this before, and
that's why I dropped Paramount plus because now, at least
in the UK, everything's on Netflix, Like, I'm watching Next
Gen on Netflix now, so.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
We're a couple of gens past next Gen.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
But yeah, that's for sure, all right, everybody.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Well that was It's lots and lots of news to cover,
but we we made through all of it. So, uh, Philip,
people wanted to find out what do these new shows
you're most excited about, Which uniforms that you want to
maybe start the Academy uniforms are gonna be all great.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
We don't know, we don't know. Where can they find you?

Speaker 2 (59:10):
They can find me on the insta at c ap
T s f uf P.

Speaker 4 (59:16):
And Darren. If people want to ask you, what you'd
be doing one thousand years from now where they find you.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I'd be opening up this brand new doctor module. I'm
sure it's completely up to date. How they can find
me at doctor sci fi dot com d R s
ci Fi.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
I think find me online everywhere at one up down.
That's the number one, not the word. That's it for
this week. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I'm Daniel Prup, I'm Philip Gilphis, and I'm Darren Moser.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Stranded here on seveiel for three