347 - Trek 3.0

If we were in charge of Star Trek...

It's not the new year yet, but the trio are ready to look to the future. With the sale of Paramount still not quite official until 2025, and the renewal of some series, the cancellation of others, and the development of even others - it's time for a brief thought experiment.

What if we ran Star Trek?

As the helm of the franchise has gone from Gene Roddenberry to Rick Berman and now to Alex Kurtzman, it's now our turn. Do we keep current projects going or start from scratch? What platform will the future of Star Trek be carried on? Should we concentrate on movies or TV series? What new ideas will keep the franchise going for the next generation?

Join us as we sit in the big chairs and imagine our own version of Star Trek's future.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the nerd Party.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Darren Moser, I'm Philip Gilphis, I'm Daniel Prue and.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
This is City Alpha three.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Hello everyone, and welcome to Sadie Alpha three at Star
Trek Podcast. Here I'm the nerd Party. I'm your host
Daniel Prue, and joining me as always are my good buddies,
my good late buddies, Darren and Philip. Hey, guys, how
are you going?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I was on time?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Well, no, I'm not not.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know, I didn't die, just you know, don't you
think you're using that word. I don't think it means
that you think it means.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
But you did. You put your contra somewhere safe because
you're here with us today. So how's it going, Darren,
how's your how's your least little wolmin good?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't remember if I spoke about it last time,
but I got to see I'll talk about it again,
but I got to see the original enterprise filming model
in DC, which was always cool. Got there right before
the top of the hour, which is where they fired
up for conservation purposes. They only turn it on for

(01:20):
like five minutes every It was like every fifteen or
every thirty minutes or something like that, so I could
live at that. And yeah, there was quite a bit
of sci fi stuff actually in DC, because they also
had the mothership from Close Encounters of the Third kind,
which was really cool to see. So yeah, you know,

(01:42):
all that real space stuff kind of paled in comparison
with the at X wing hanging from the ceiling, you know.
But yeah, but that was really cool. I mean it
it made me like, I know, the qualities of cameras
and stuff back then, but it made me wish that
we got a little bit closer shots at the time,

(02:02):
because I'm like, this model's pretty big, you know, and
I always felt like, you know, they were shooting it,
you know, with a long lens from twenty feet away,
you know. But you know, we got what we got.
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
You mentioned model, and I just want to bring up
the fact that I assume this it went through, but
I saw that the Deep Space nine model was pretty
put up for auction so you could buy the screen used.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know, I was very surprised by that because for
some reason, I always assumed it was tucked away safely somewhere.
But I'm like, oh, it's being auctioned, and that suckers huge.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if it went live or whatever,
but I'm sure somebody else snag it.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
And it was for only like thirty five grand. It
wasn't like a crazy number you would think.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Is that what you told your wife?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
College bunch? Small fun.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Is the problem I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Okay, our entire dining room will be you know, set
for this. We'll paint the wormbhole on the wall, and yeah,
I mean an awesome piece of history. But yeah, it
just comes down to where would you put it? Because
the thing is just massive.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
But well it's the empty space though, so it's not
it doesn't really take up that much space, honestly.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, it's kind of like you know, a child with
their arms out, you know, like it's you have to
fit the outer ring and then everything else is just
you know, it's like, yeah, my volume, it's not a
lot of stuff, but it is making as making itself
as big as possible in that volume, I.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Feel, how are you? There are things going across the pond?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, nothing too crazy. I'm in the i want to say,
middle middle of season two of Star Trek Nick Generation,
and so it's been going well, I know, the last
time we had spoken at remember talking with Darren. Season
two does I mean not that it's like a garbage try,
but season two does not just start off well, like

(04:14):
it's very slow. I mean not like always bad per Se,
which is very slow. And then those the first couple
episodes are very like season oney, and I'm during that beginning,
I'm kind of like almost the first season one at
this point, but then it starts hitting those big episodes
like Measure of a manned Uh, Matter of Honor with
Riker going on the Klingon ship, and then so it's

(04:35):
very like way up here or not bad, but just
like nothing, because like I just watched Oh Lord Samaritan Snare,
I think that was it, where it's like the Jordy
and the pack leads, but the other storyline is Picard
getting his heart fixed with Wesley. But like so you
have an A and B but they're both just nothing

(04:57):
because like it's like like a on a shuttle, Wesley
Bicard talk. They get the sandwiches, the card, Yeah, the sandwiches.
The card has an issue during the surgery and Flashy
shows up. That's that whole plot, and then Jordi is
like Jordi goes over there. They helped the Packlinds are
being creepy weirdos. They phase them a couple of times,

(05:18):
and then they fix it and then the forge beams
over the end like it's just a nothing episode. And
so that's to me, that's been half of season two,
and then the other half is like Q who and
the Borg and so it's very black and white.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, the highs are higher than season one, I imagine, right,
because season one doesn't have it, you know, of the
data episode or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
But we.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
That's on the same level. But nice, Okay, cool guys,
let's you know what I was thinking about what we
should talk about today? Uh, And I have some ideas
in my head about how I want to structure this,
but I think it's probably better if we talk it
out because I want to see how you guys would
do this. We know that the current state of Trek is,

(06:06):
what's the best way to put it, let's say, unsure, uncertain,
not on solid ground perhaps where we would like it
to be. But I want to talk about My original
pitch was going to be like making a ten commandments
for like the next era of Star Trek, like we
would we would sort of forge the rules and how

(06:27):
things would go going forward. I don't think that's as
good as what I'm thinking. I'm thinking if we were
putting in charge of Star Trek right now, like Paramount
gets bought out or whatever happens, and the cards fallow
where they may. Now we are now in charge of
what would become Star Trek three point zero right or
four point oh, I guess, depending on how you really

(06:49):
divved it up. But moving forward from henceforth from this point,
what would we how would we structure it? What would
we like to see and what would we do? Like right, so,
like if we look at what happened in twenty sixteen
when Kurtzman became like everything since then has sort of

(07:11):
been under his eye. If we were given that sort
of power, where would we go with it? How would
we do it? Why would we structure it? Because you know,
in eInsight, he probably did a lot of things that
we might have said that we would have done then.
And then we see now how it kind of turned out.
Maybe we don't like it, maybe we still do. I
don't know, But I just thought if we could control

(07:35):
if we had our hand on the helm.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
First first action is you know, we said it was
the final season of Lower Decks, just kidding that show
is still going strong. How could you put an end
date on comedy and yeah, so instant and find the

(07:59):
lifezation of I don't care if they have to rewrite
half the season to un wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
It was a dream that that season five was a dream.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Season six.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I want their opener to be like, oh I thought
it was I thought we were done. I thought the
cerritos had crashed and it was all over. It's like, nope,
here we go mission number four here, keep going.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Well, Daniel will appreciate it instead of ghastlyak he or
it can be like plasma leak here.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
See.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
This is why I was gonna ask, because to me,
it makes way more sense as an as an exercise,
as a thought exercise to break cleanly from everything, so
not to continue like like even even strange in worlds
we don't touch. That's over at this point, we can't
bring back.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Of course you're doing the strategy.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Well, we will be ignoring the burn. I promise you
that that'll be number one rule. Not yet. But that's
why I was bringing it up, just because to me,
that makes more sense. But if Darren you do like
you are, like, that's exactly what I would do, that
would be my number one.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I agree, I could be persuaded to discontinue Change the World.
I think in my mind, I kind of go from
a place of that show and Lower Decks are like
the two strongest shows, So if you don't have to
cancel them, there's plenty of other budget to slash around
in this imaginary scenario, So I would keep them both

(09:30):
going to kind of keep the good will, as it were,
Like again, it's our experiment. We could do whatever we want.
But I would also love watching more Lower Decks. I
don't think it should be wrapped up right now. I
don't see the reason for it except for I don't know.
I don't know why they decided to stop it.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
I mean my selfish Pitch would be one more Prodigy season,
and only because I mean fair, right, nothing's fair. It's
it's an industry, uh, and nothing's fair in industries. But
like they didn't know because it was like when they
were like Jeason two is done and then like oh
it's canceled, and you're like, okay, well we would have
So it's like I want them to make I mean

(10:14):
Discovery had the same issue, but maybe a movie two seasons,
I think, yeah, I mean I would actually know. Look
they want to do these TV movies now maybe that's
the new way to go. But yeah, because I love Troategy,
Big Produty, and I don't know if everyone you know
as much as me, but I would love them to
be able to end that how they want to because
they didn't get to end it how they wanted. It
wasn't even Discovery where like midway through by the way

(10:36):
it's canceled, they got it done and then it's canceled,
and that's well that's unsatisfying. So at least for a
whole season. But even if you want to go TV movie,
I can do it. But so you know, this may
be a compromise of like landing everything. You know, look
star Trek in charge right there. They love things landing,
so the plot lines are landing will be our new phrase,

(11:00):
and so.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Lower decks.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's such a great show and it can go forever.
But I mean whatever, but if you still think you
should do like seven seasons, just from a fan standpoint,
just do seven, right, we all agree seven?

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I would give Prodigy, something I would prefer a whole
season if you wanna do to me, that's fine. And
then Strange New Worlds, I agree, is probably you know,
strange year old's lard decks. I think with Strange New Worlds,
part of me, and this is like a fan thing,
is scared of how long it will go on, because
it's like, at some point, guys, at some point, guys,

(11:36):
it's got to end, Like we can't not ever get
to the Kirk era, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
Like, well, or are you afraid that they will get
to the Kirk era and this will all of a
sudden become like Year one of Kirk's Enterprise. I'm not
saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying it could happen.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
I'm not necessarily either. I just and again, this is
a Phillip thing. Everyone else may not give whatever about it,
but it's like they're convoluting it. The cannon up so much.
I don't like at certain point, guys, you're missing too much.
I don't trust that I can watch TOS anymore after
watching Strange New Worlds, as it won't make sense anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, it doesn't. You can't jell.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Remember when Kirk was onding the Enterprise for like five
years before taking command. Remember that. No, ok, this is
what we.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Talked about that one episode where Kirk fell in love
with Wavahura and I'm like, I can't. I can't do this,
Like I can't even though he doesn't remember it or whatever.
By the end of the episode, I couldn't. I just
couldn't do it anymore. But okay, fine, you twisted my arms.
I'll say this. I'll say we can we can't provide

(12:40):
an additional ending or some sort of closure for those
three properties.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
For by a closure for Lower Decks three more seasons.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
But yeah, well see that's the thing. And that's where
I'm like, I do also like Lower Decks quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's what I'm saying. I'm fire, or in my opinion,
I'm finer wrapping up Lower Strange your world sooner. Like
for me, I get that. I see no reason to
stop Lower Decks just because it doesn't it doesn't interfere
with anything. It's still a great show. It's ten episode chunks,
like it's been consistently good.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, because I mean it has my concern. My thing
is like let a thing die when it when it's
on top, right, so you know, we can drag it out.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Sure you're not wrong, you know, take the home improvement
or Seinfield route and just be like, we want to
end while everyone loves it, rather than oh, yeah it
was great until that last season. Boy, they shouldn't have
let it go that long, which you never know until
you do.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
The full Lieutenant season. Well, not good on lower decks.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
For all we know, this could be not a great season.
We don't know it could, we know.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
It well, will be a good season?

Speaker 1 (13:54):
We could, we know, we don't know. And and the
other thing I was going to say about it was
just that you can we can futurama it right like
we could. We don't have to bring it back for
full season or whatever. Yeah, it's a thing that you
can just bring back in maybe for an episode or
two or whatever, like a special every couple of years

(14:16):
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I mean, they did a crossover special with Change of
Worlds and it worked, which is amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's a well, I don't know, I'd have to google
their ages. I was gonna say it's a young cast.
That's not true. They're probably older than I think they are,
but that's the same. I mean, they could like step
away and come back in five years and would probably
still sound the same. So it's not like that's an issue,
you know.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Yeah, yeah they are, they're not. I don't think they're
super young. But okay, well let's just say that for
Darren's sake that we will we will not destroy the
possibility of future adventures on the critos, and for Philip,
will do at least a closing movie for Prodigy so

(14:59):
they can at least wrap everything up that they wanted
to touch on and it could be a you know,
it could be a two part or like real long
episode or movie or whatever. And then Strange two Worlds
will just say ends at the next season and then
we will have sort of a clean break into whatever
the next phase of Star Trek.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Now, we do have these two things on the shelf.
I don't know what you want to do with them.
It's labeled Academy and.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Now we're just not touching one. We're not touching Okay, well,
just let's just say because they're not even they're not like, well,
you can't touching thirty one doesn't count. Fine, release it,
who cares, nobody, it's not anything.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
I'm not releasing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh, I was gonna say, it's easy to cut the Academy.
I don't think it's filming yet, right, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
It is, Yeah, because we know the office whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, either way, it doesn't matter. Let's just say we
cut it. Section thirty one comes out. It makes no
difference to us because we're not going to include it
either way. And what we do going forward, I think
I can speak for everybody pretty comfortably there. But yeah,
so what would we now do as as our introduction,
our new new Star Trek, our new phase maybe maybe

(16:11):
correct Star.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Trek phase two?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
That sounds like an enterprise or well?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I guess here's the question. And I realized this fantasy
is who we do whatever we want. But I guess
in our fantasy world, we're creating what's our platform? I mean,
we had syndicated TV, we had network or tertiary Network TV,
and then we had streaming on Paramount Plus. Now we're
in this kind of weird era of like some stuff
on Netflix and who knew, who knows where it is?

(16:39):
So I guess where where is our Star Trek going
to be? Is it on streaming?

Speaker 3 (16:43):
All? Right? For my vote, is we produce Star Trek
for syndication on television, and we sell the streaming rights
to another platform. So we just make that sweet sweet
money and we're financially stable. I think that's what we

(17:04):
should do, Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I like the idea that everything stays in one place,
where everything actually goes to one place.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I should say, well, it will control will, It'll be
available somewhere.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's the thing though, we've got you'll find.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
I don't know if you remember this, Darren, but there
was one week of time everything was on Paramount.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Plus Star Trek.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I remember the.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Star Truk where you should find everything Star Trek on listen.
I'm not saying we need to make a customer like
a like a like I would.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Like a channel that just has Star Trek on it.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
I don't want to do that. Like, fine, give it
all to Netflix, that's fine, but but.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
They want to they just to pay for it exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
But but it's a it's it is a it's an
all inclusive package. If you if you're paying for there's
nine rights you have to you're getting everything. That's just
how it is. That way everybody can just just for simplicity.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Second, we all Star Trek options come as a bundle,
you buy one, buy them all.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's what I think I would say also in that bundle,
because that's a pefty fee. Is let u let Netflix
make something, give them a license and say, hey, you
mean you got to run it by us, but you know,

(18:26):
make your own show. One show, you get one show
that you can you know, made by Netflix or whatever
they label they slap on it.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think Netflix could do something cool.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
I like the way you said it, though in my
mind it was much more aggressive. All right, Netflix, you
do it.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
About this? You want this bag of amazing this fine,
but you got to add to it.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I mean you canceled Chaos after one season, all right, whatever,
let me see what you do.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well. So that's the thing, like, because we know Netflix's ways, right,
we're all familiar with how they handle it too.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
To three seasons most and then Coast.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, and so we'll just say give them sort of
the original idea for Discovery where it was going to
be an anthology show and maybe Netflix can do something
fun with that, and.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Then Discovery to be an adult I barely remember that.
I think you're right, but.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
It depends daring in what universe you live in? Fuller
universe of two weeks. Yeah, I mean he started.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
I mean, you know, you know, I agree with you, Philip,
and I understand what you're saying, but like he was
the guy.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
For a time. I think that's the other key the
credit of this is that we also need to make
sure that the three of us are in charge of
the story for like twenty years my default because and
I'm joking but I'm half serious the fact that I
think one of the hardest things about any franchise nowadays.
I mean, I'm looking at you, Star Wars is like,

(19:54):
you know, not having someone at the helm executing their
vision on the long and that's where yeah, like a
Figy or you know, a uh, what's it like a Filoni?
You know, someone to because otherwise you get like what

(20:14):
happened with Brian Fuller, where it was like great concept
and then it just the bottom dropped out. And not
that we did enjoy parts of what we got, but
you know, just I wanted to all be the same.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I feel like the better example, I mean nothing, that's
not a good example, but to me, a more prominent
example is Picard because it had what three show runners
for three seasons?

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Am I right?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And and I mean, you know, people love every bit
of a card. That's fine, but you know it's that's
yeah to your point, Darren, like, yeah, that's not good.
You should have at least at least for our show.
Like we can talk about the franchise, but for a show,
let's at least have one or two voices, you know,
Thinkul being Coke, sure runner. I don't care how that's true.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's true. I guess I'll say that for the show
that makes sense. I mean it's not if we were
doing movies, then yes, it would need to be on
a grander scale because you can't have like, oh, in
those two movies made sense together, but then that third
one all the writers changed, and you know it. I
mean that happens.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Because I'm why do I keep forgetting his name? Who
runs star Trek?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Now?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Oh k?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
For some reason, his name keeps coming out of my brain.
I'm like the change a guy. But anyway, like I'm
curious and I don't know the answer. I'm curious how
much Kurtzman has influence over all everything. Like I'm not
just saying he doesn't, but I'm just like, as a writer,
which is his background. I mean, I mean he's a produced, big,
big big guy now but like you know, as a
writer background, like how much does he touch in each

(21:47):
series or is he just more of a like because
like I get Star Wars with I don't know if
it's true, but like it used to be true, like
just a couple of years ago, like they would at
least be looking at everything before it went out, like
to make sure he got the flavor of like the
different directors you'd still have. Why I'm forgetting here one's
name not Fioni, the other guy that was running Star Wars,

(22:12):
Marvel guy.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Happy Yes, oh no, I can't remember, thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
I mean I got the thing. Even if you didn't
like that, it has to be an f name because
Favor was at least Gave had a bunch of directors,
but he was still you know, touching everything before it
went something with Figy with Marvel but anyway, which again
you may like them or not, but at least you're
trying to get everything on the same mosaic, even though
it may look different. And so I don't know if

(22:44):
that's what he what Kurtzman does that he may very
well do, but it seems to me very independent victoms
of where he like picks the people and you go
do your thing and we'll make it work. But in an.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Interview with someone or I just read too long ago,
he said that. Kurtzman said that we're going to get
an answer to the floating the cells in the Starfleet
Academy show. So if that goes to to just sort
of give an example of how much he may or
may not have influence. He may not be involved in
that at all. He just might know it, but he said,

(23:16):
and he's least aware of down to those kinds of details.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, I think we wanted that in the second episode
after we saw the floating the cells.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
But yeah, it's a little bit little too late. Well,
here's the thing. He's fired in our scenario, so we
don't really have to worry about him.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He retires comfortably.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
He's fine. Yes, I'll will towards whatever he can do it.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
He lives on Riza on farm. It's totally happy.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
He'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
So are we are we spinning up the movie generator
again or are we focusing just on shows? What are
what are some of your guys' ideas.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I'm curious, Well, that's my first thought. Feel free to
shut it down.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Shut it down to use.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
For one thing, movies can no long Star Trek movies
can no longer be billed as a Fox Office a
big movie blockbuster. I don't why couldn't say that way
it's a blockbuster. They're not going to be blockbusters. They're
not that kind of movie. Star Trek is going to
be mid tier movies. That's because because of the expectations,

(24:21):
are not gonna be up here, They're gonna be over here.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
They're not going to make a billion dollars. No, they're
just not.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
They're never going to, and there's the reason to expect.
And that's fine. We have a more niche audience. I mean,
we can try to do a Star Trek four or
even a first context. I don't know the numbers. I'm
just making that of it. That's a general audience. But
we have a niche audience, and so it's going to
be lower budgets slightly, but it's also going to be
lower expectations. So I think we have to feel comfortable
with that, which I don't think it necessarily has a

(24:47):
problem with that. I think that's just where we want
to put ourselves in lower expectations. All that said, my
first instinct is to play movies with current properties, which
I know sounds dumb like or perhaps obvious, but I don't.
I'm not trying to spit any new series or new
new things. Like you want a Discovery movie. I'm not
saying I'm pitching that, but like you can do like

(25:09):
our movies would be for existing properties, and then TV
is going to be new stuff. That's my initial pitch.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
It's not You're gonna get to introduce the new TV
show with a movie, you know, it's just going to
be like, oh, you really liked you know, Stranger Worlds,
they get a movie to cap off their show or something.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
See, I like, I agree with that. Oh I would
honestly just say probably just avoid movies, especially in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
At all, but legitimate.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
But on the other hand of that, I really loved
the the two part of the opens Battlestar, and I
would love like for it to be an event of
a of a new thing like if you're and I
guess I'm probably Discovery was sort of meant to be
that sort of thing as well, just maybe not as
effective as because because Battlestar was amazing, right like that
that whole mini series was just incredible. But that's that

(26:02):
level of like like that quality and that like impactfulness.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
So step one, bring in Ronald dy Moore.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Step one, that's definitely bring back some of the big,
the big heavy guys. But so I'm thinking, yeah, I agree.
I think maybe try to avoid movies, especially in the beginning,
and then like just make some really really cool stuff
that could be movie like events, that sort of stuff.
That's where my brain goes.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Anyway. Now I would say, you know, on the TV aspect,
are we putting in place no prequels?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, because of the nature I feel like I'm doing
like a very the nature of Star Trek. Now, what
do you mean by prequels in the in the old days?
The old days, I would know what you mean, but
we get thirty second century.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
But I would say, uh, if are okay, then I'll
put it this way. If we're having multiple shows, one
show is going to be present day that might be
like Picard Era or whatever we decide, and then anything
before that would be a prequel, meaning it's inserted in

(27:20):
between pre existing shows, like if we wanted to enter Yeah,
like if we have a I referred.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
To as twenty third twenty four century, right, like Ron
Berry Berman, I call it, like right.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
The Berman era. Yeah, like if or if you like,
part of you was thinking, like, oh, what if we
did a Enterprise B show but it was a bubble show.
Like it's off exploring the Beta Quadrant, but they're not
not stuck like in Voyager, but they are not going
to interact with the Federation nearly as much. So it

(27:53):
doesn't it's like we're just filling out that part, that
chapter of the Enterprise lineage. You know, we could call
it Star Trek Enterprise or something like that, but you
know we can't call that B.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Yeah, just be Enterprise.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Yeah, So like I get, I'm not I'm not opposed
to that. Like I kind of liked that idea, but
I if we were going to say no inserting prequel
shows in between, but I think it could be done.
But that's we've done.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Well I'm on board now because look, what do you call, Daniel,
what do you call the movie that came out in
two thousand and nine.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Two thousand and nine, Well, I called I mean it
is called starts.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Called Star Trek though, so we're calling it Star Trek
Enterprise and then be like and it's gonna be the
twenty twenty five you mean the twenty twenty five series.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I wouldn't do that to people. I wouldn't. I wouldn't
do that to people. That's terrible to give them the
it's give an actual.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Called the animated series. It's called Star Trek, Darren.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
That's you're not wrong, I would say again, and this
is just for the initial like initial go of it,
because we'll definitely want to do stuff like that later on,
but at least for the first like the beginning the
first show, the beginning of the first year, whatever like
limit we want to put on it. It is all
like you said, they're establishing a sort of new baseline,

(29:16):
like a new level of like.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
A new current era. Yeah. Yeah, and so it wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I'm not ruling out possibly forever, though I am hesitant
to do it at any point. But that's just a person.
That's just personal preference. I would say, initially, we look
forward and we move forward. That's the I think that's
probably for the best.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Because I think the Star Trek enter Prize could sort
of be our generic and I don't mean this in
a bad way, our generic Star Trek show, like you know,
it's a starship exploring space.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Right, it's the TG formula. It's going to be I
mean a little more long form story because that's just
the way things go.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
But yeah, it's going to be fifteen episodes.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh so many what we want? Well, because yeah, with
the with the I don't know, I call it the enterprise,
but with enterprise, you know, I'm going straight like slightly
updated Monster Maroons like I want it to do. Yeah,
do the change the world one? You know where it's

(30:22):
it's enough where that you're very obvious this is an era.
It's a it's connected to a beloved era, but it's
enough where yeah, I think it could happen where you
have this, Like I say, it's a bubble. It's a
bubble show where it is separate enough from the main
timeline that it's not going not alternate universe, not that

(30:45):
far out, but enough where it could tell stories and
it's not. It's telling. It's telling like the smaller stories
of you know, first contacts and saving planets and you know,
charting gaseous anomalies. You will make it fun somehow, but
you know, I'm giving it that day to day of like, actually,

(31:08):
how we wish a starship was run, We're like, oh, look,
actual you know department heads that meet with their departments,
you know, actual, you know discussion. We need the fifteen episodes, Yeah, exactly,
so you.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Know they're all going to die, you know.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Give us we don't know that, give us a cool crew.
All we have to establish for sure is you know,
Captain Hartman, and maybe you know Sulu at the Helm
sorry Harriman, and but everyone else could be whoever. You know,
there is no known at least what's been seen on screen. Well,

(31:46):
and I'm not advocating this, but I have a beautiful
Excelsior class starship, guys, I mean.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
But the option is we could have a whole new
crew like this could be you know, year five of
the Enterprise B and new captain. There's no I mean,
I think this is my opinion. Strange New World definitely
leans into like recognize these names, and this would be like, no,
you will not recognize any of these names. These is
a whole new crew, which I know from a commercial standpoint, again,

(32:17):
commercial you want to have like no, this is familiar,
and this is familiar, and this is familiar for you, strut,
but it's gonna be like not really, it's the enterprise, baby.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I mean, I see what you're saying, but there's a
part of me that's like the familiarity of that Captain
versus like, oh, Spock is in this season are very different.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Levels of I'm just saying for Harriman, like.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Captain is and I get that. I just I think, yeah,
I'm sure. I just like we don't know anything about that.
It's just like you know, when they name drop Rachel Garrett,
it's like it's enough of a connection. You know, the
first episode they go through a temporal anomaly in the
ages and now he's like allan ruck still but he's
really old. You know, we don't do that, you know, Okay, Well.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's see where like you could play because and I'm
not saying if you go with this, but in the
in the novel verse, Captain Harriman got his job because
his dad's an admiral. You could have Rock in the
first episode play admiral daddy, and and so it's recognizing
that character, and you obviously recast Harriman, but you have
you know, that's kind of anyway. I was just go ahead, well.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I was just gonna say that is that is an
idea moving on beyond Enterprise.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
But yeah, so that would be our second show. Our
first ship is going to be Picard or early early
twenty Yeah, what's your idea?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Yeah, this is a collaborative thing because I I I
don't know the best way to move forward, Like how
big of a leief do we want from what we
now know? As I guess what we would call current.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
As as part of the creative Dan, you know, this
is my my I don't know if you off to
have your head, but that's what we're gonna be doing here.
How can we integrate again doing my ted talking, how
can we integrate gaming into trick? Because in my mind
I'm almost picture.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I don't know what I don't know what that is.
What's gaming?

Speaker 2 (34:19):
So like you have I know, Star Trek Online and
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Blah, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Almost thinking almost like not that I'm an expert at
any means, but almost thinking fortnitish where like you have
live stuff like literally playing things like you know in
that game. And I really this might be going too far,
but is there something almost where you could have a
gaming universe that sort of almost progresses week to week

(34:43):
with the storyline whether it's that the show is in
the gaming.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
We make events, you know, events that occur.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
I see now what you're saying, like as like sort
of a tie in kind of a thing. Yeah, so
there have been plenty of like instances where they've.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Tried hold it.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
There was a there was a I mean this was
po god, probably fifteen years ago now, well I'm not
that long ten years ago now, but there was an
MMO that came out that we came out with a
show and like you had to play both the game
and watch both the show, and it was like really
weird and didn't it was a mass affiliate.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I mean, you don't want to like give your audience homework,
so you got to be careful of that.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
But I don't know, to answer your question, I don't
know that there's a good way to do it, not
like not at that level.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
This is me like what are the kids dealing because
this is like what is the new generation? How are they?
Because I mean, again not to make fun of this,
because I'm not making fun of this, but like if
it is a TikTok generation where things do and I'm
not saying, you know, they don't have long attention spans whatever.
That's stupid to say that, but at least that's where
media consumption is. So I'm trying to picture something that's
kind of really left field of.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, I don't know, it's a good question that. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know how that would interact
with an actual like like traditional television show in any
meaningful way, but it is a good idea, like sort
of staying in the front of that sort of stuff
could be a be cool and hip. Right, No, old
people say those words, so I know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Because yeah, and again not virtual No, I mean, I
don't know where we're going to go, but because I'm
trying to think of like what it would be sort
of a new experience, whether it's like we are, whether
it's just whether it's something that really integrates something new
Star Trek unless you just we just buy Star Trek
online and really blow it up, Like I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I would say, if you're going that direction of like
trying to quote unquote, you know, bring in the cool kids.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
What Star Trek is known for. By the way, Yeah,
like that's just historically just right on target.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
So I would say, loosen up on just letting creators
do things. Meaning if if people want to make like
set some outlines, but if people want to make their
own like TikTok series about crewmen, like do that with

(37:10):
your blessing where and so it's kind of like the
whole throw things at the wall and see if they stick.
But you're not actually, you know, paying for it. You're
just letting others, you know, again, give it some sort
of boundary. But I like it.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Uh yeah, no, I like.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
It because a lot of creativity is coming out of
people who do these little shorts because they love Star Trek.
So give them a little bit of the reins to
and it's not like anything they're doing is affecting your show, Alpha,
you know, your main show. But honestly, I think you're
you want to create that buzz of people interested in

(37:54):
Star Trek, and I think that would be an amazing
way to tie people in.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
This will sound ridiculous, but this is this is just
off the top of dome where we put out very
like you're saying, Darren, a very general outline. I mean
I'm not talking about requirements though that too. I mean
there's gonna be like required, but general, like whatever you
can make it up twenty fifth century. It's a star base.
Here's ten character, five characters. Here's what they are. You know,

(38:22):
we give something and then throw it out to the community,
and then the show is almost like almost like a
I've never seen it in total, but like, uh Will
Whedon's show. And so you have a host who then
goes to like, all right, these are the first twenty
because obviously we'd filter it, but like, here's the first
twenty submissions we've gotten, and you would play them, and

(38:45):
then it almost turns into a reality show where people
can then vote on their favorites.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
It's kind of like Star Wars did it with like
a fan film format, and it's very similar to that
where they gave out like rules and time limits and
then yeah, and then they had a whole process because.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Then I could see and I mean, I don't know.
It depends on the creators turnaround where you would have like,
here's the favorites, and then what you've neared down and
I'm making these ub marbortrarily twenty to ten and you say,
all right, well, these creators now have to come up
next week with a new episode or new whatever, and
so then that you'll have a new ten. I mean,
we could play it a bunch of ways, but like
that could be the whole season, whether you're doing like

(39:25):
you could filter it down to this many and then
do like another series where you're filtering down to this many,
like two tournament style, and then you have like this
fun and then because you're also developing stories at the
same time, it's almost a reality competition, really show competition.
But that yeah, you're you're sort of allowing fan participation.
I mean, obviously it would have been like our main project.

(39:45):
It'd be like our third one of like opening it
of this up this world.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, exactly, something something like that, either like you said,
like a contest, or even just something that's more organic
where we're not pinning them again each other. It's just,
you know, take this ball and go play with it
and then we'll see what awesome stuff and maybe the
prize quote unquote is if we really really liked the idea,
because it's still our ip, we can say, hey, come

(40:14):
on and we'll give you this you know role of
you know, some sort of role we create like a
writing role or a you know, junior executive, whatever we
want to call it. But like you then we're if
we choose one of those to actually become more of
a thing, you know, then we just bring them along
for the ride. Uh yeah. One another show idea, because

(40:41):
we're we're elevated, we're turriblelift pitching. You know, we got
our turblelift pitches. I think, you know, set in our
common in our current era. I I would like to
do a a starfleet Corps of Engineers show. So they

(41:02):
have a ship. You know, it's a barge. You know,
it's not it's not a pretty ship. It's very much
for building things. But it could be a great show
about all sorts of need to really get to know
this characters, these crew and then as you you know,
you go all around the galaxy like doing different things

(41:24):
like oh we need to stabilize this, or oh this
power system is offline and just another way to see
the galaxy than a uh you know, then the flagship
of the fleet, you know, and I think that could
be could be really fun.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I'm picturing for no reason at all, an eighteen sort
of like it.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Is it is.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
You can find the Corp of Engineers. Yeah, you have
their hailing frequency, they will find you.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
They can help, you know, like after a battle, you know,
they're they're pulling up and they're the ones to like
collect all the loose the cells that drifted off, and
they got to be reattached to their ships, you know,
clean up battle duty again, you know, or or again
like going to Rise and fixing their weather net, you know,

(42:13):
or terrorists destroyed it war.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, yeah, weather control system.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah. But I just something again. It it's my idea
for getting around and seeing the galaxy. But not like
it's not gonna be the same kind of stories of
well we're on a diplomatic mission, Like no, there's no
diplomatic missions. We're getting it done, you know, if they're like, oh, hey,
uh this new colony, or or but what's Bullion's planet?

(42:44):
Is it just Bolus Bolorus? You know, Bolorus has Uh
there's a massive tectonic shift that's happening. We have to
go stabilize that. So they do, and we get to
event cool technology and you know whatever, but exactly you know,
and but on a galactic scale versus a starship scale,
you know, they're not trying to fix it again. They're

(43:05):
still trying to fix their own ship because I'm sure
it's you know, been modified heavily. You put a crew
of engineers on and it'll be stripped down dispensation so overpowered,
it's gonna tear itself apart. You know, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I like that idea. That'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
See now I'm picturing like what what the because it
would have to be I think my pitch would be
and you could change. It would be like a ship
that we know, a classic ship that we know, but
it's so been so whatever. So either it's an Excelsior,
well we have the enterprise kid of that. So whether
it's like.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Uh, an O Breath or.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Oh gosh, yes, an O Birth but it kind of.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I'm kind of lean towards O Breath.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
But yeah, it's basically they pimped their ride of the
O Birth.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah eighteen maybe well maybe the uh you know that
pod underneath is swapped out and like to be whatever
it needs to be. Like they have they have a base,
you know, a star Bass that they go. Yeah, it's
like the headquarters of the corp of Engineer. Like heck,

(44:09):
I would see an episode of We're moving Star bas
One to this other planet to turn it into the
fleet museum. That would be awesome. I would watch a
week of that show, just like how they did that.
And you know, again obviously it's not just the technical aspect,
but we're seeing these characters and their relationships and their problems,

(44:30):
and you know, within a d S nine lens, I'll say,
you know, I don't want you know, insubordination or anything
like that, but I'm that.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Ship belongs in the fleet museum.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
But the fleet music you know, Earth is uh, yeah,
the pilot is like Earth space space around Earth is
getting crowded. What do we do? Well, if only we
could just move We can't move a star base like
like that would be the they're like, oh wait a minute, wat.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
It's crazy enough to move a star base corps of engineers.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Either as like a B plot or or a Team
B or some sort of like the B team, some
sort of like alternately, maybe even like an episode, but
it would be the the the people who do all
the planet reshaping. What's it called the terraforming terraforming. Yeah,
so the terraform ocurves would also be doing equally as

(45:33):
impressive things that would be equally fun to learn about.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Again, just have a have a little mini star base
that's like it's there, it's adjacent to the to the well.
But it's it's where the mothball fleet is, like you know,
you have where everyone also you have like random That's
how you know they're there because there's like this gleaming
you know, new little bass in the middle. And then
all these like dusty floating junk are decommissioned ships. So

(46:01):
they're like but yeah, but part of it is corp
of engineer. Part of it is the terraforming you know division.
Uh that would be that would be really cool. And
then they're like the unspoken words like you don't talk
about genesis. You can't talk.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
I just I would just like like the engineers don't
consider the terraformers engineers, even though the terraformers consider themselves engineered.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Right exactly, Wow, big.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Deal you put a part on I never tried to
make life bigin.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Yeah, I mean I'm picturing the the mess Hall Shenanigans
and they're they're ripe for potential and the.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Blue shirts versus gold shirts. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah, it's very it's very much like high school like
jocks and nerds of you know.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
But in there's which is the part he's in charge
of this rag attack. The only red shirt there is
you know what would be jenk Pog. He's old enough now.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
But yeah, I've always I mean they've read a book
series on the corp of Engineers. There's been and those
were kind of cool because they used Scottie from his
Relics time Jump, so he was, you know, thrown into
the quote unquote Berman present time, so he was part
of it. And they had a ship I think actually

(47:17):
it was a galaxy class. It had a different name,
but that was their the main ship of this series
if I remember correctly. I don't know if we're going
to go that big, but Obrith. Obrith sounds more a
fleet of Obrith ships.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
My last pitch because it's a it's a swing and
it's fan service because you know, everything I've kind of
played with, I've been like, let's guys, let's not let's
not do a million things. But this one I did
a whole over percent going to be a million things.
It's going to be a temporal ship from whatever you
give me, whatever century you want.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Well, the timeship Relativity, thank you whatever.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Sure, relativity a noddy, but I.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Mean relatifically minus one. It happened a full relativity but
you know.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Basically it's gonna be not an anthology show, but basically
it's gonna be I mean, it's not Quantum Leaf, but
it's like Quantum Leaf Star Trek where they're just gonna
you know, yeah, they're just gonna be in a different
Star Trek time and it's just gonna be I mean,
it's not one hundred percent fan service, but like fans
are in that respect. So it's like twenty third century
or twenty fourth century or you know, whatever this is.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Gonna be somebody's is it basically gonna be time cop
So like somebody's going to the past to mess to
like kill an infit and then all of a sudden
they like show up. They're like, no, we're gonna stop
you you know, and then you know, they restore the timeline,
the sacred timeline.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
If I'm allowed to go full I would one hundred
percent want to do it. Uh tis animated time, and
it's an an.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I kind of would have to be an animated show
like you could do war. Sometimes I don't if it
was animated, I want to.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Play with it, depending on which timeline we're going.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Okay, it's ninety percent animated, but there's one where the
universe they go to is real world, which makes no sense,
but it's weird, so oh I can go with it.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, so that that is my thret because you can
even go discovery like you could. The whole franchise is
your play thing, and you could maybe be one series
or one season.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
And you know, to use up some of the other
voice actors or akay actors while they're still around, you know,
to to voice their roles. I could dig it. Yeah.
I think it definitely makes a lot more sense as
an animated show if you're going to be jumping into
the into the past and they're not messing anything up, Daniel,
because they're purposely not messing things up, they're fixing.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
If what you're doing is making an entire series that
has adventures exactly like Troubled Tribles, then that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
That's kind of what it is.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
It would be, And that's why it's a limited SERI
because we're going to spend a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
It's a limited temporal investigations. But that's the that's the
they just you know, you just actually actually go somewhere
on the whiteboard.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
They don't even have to be good episodes. You throw
episodes on the whiteboard and we're integrating our characters into
each and every one.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Or you take you take ideas like that, and you
take all the all the crazy outlinist ones that you
want to do, and you definitely put them in a bucket.
And what you do is you bring back what was
what had the biggest potential in all of this new
well what we are in right now, the start turk
time that we have right now, and that they squandered
almost immediately, which was short Treks. And we you know,

(50:34):
you redo short Treks and you can do all these
really cool things in a shorthand format, you know, like
twenty minutes or whatever at the most, and you just
do these, you know, and you could do that once,
you know, once a season of Short Trucks you do
one episode where it's time jumping and like that's what
it is, and then we do all the other fun
things that you want to. It's exactly kind of what
Short Trucks was, just better, and like actually maintain it,

(50:57):
like you know, not just give up on it after
one or two.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Just know you're keeping I like that, So bring Short
Treks back. I mean, I feel like Short Treks kind
of evolved into Lower Decks in a way like Lower
Decks is very different obviously, but the way that it
references a lot of Star Trek, you know, I think
that aspect transferred over. But I love the idea of, yeah,

(51:24):
here's a twenty minute episode about the enterprise be getting
lost in the Nebula or whatever. You know, you could
do whatever you want and and just just have fun
with it.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Really got a enterprise be on the brain Hunter.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Okay, okay, you know already pitched enterprises is happening, But
I mean we've talked.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
A lot about a lot of different things, so and
it was kind of all over the place. But is
there anything else that you would like? You'd be like,
I am absolutely, this is happening, and I.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
We're gonna slap it on lunch boxes and sell.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
It and sell it, sell it until we know what
we had. I mean, did we did we come up
with our current era like main show? Or I feel
like we could do a real quick rabbit fire if
you want. Yeah, I mean we I didn't have a
particular idea.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
But it's going to be on a ship, Okay, crew,
does it have to It doesn't have to I mean,
I would think as if we're.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Trying to like base station, they don't go anywhere, but
the adventure comes to them.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
How about a star base.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I'm not opposed to other ideas, but we already.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I'll post make up a number.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Gotta go higher.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Than Yeah, well, the the at this point in time,
the galaxy is you know, pretty tame, pretty well explored.
So I don't know what the what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I mean, I don't worry that much about the exploration
because when I think of like TNG, I don't feel like, like, yeah,
they encountered a bunch of cool stuff, but I don't
feel like they were They were in Federation space most
of the time. It didn't feel like they were out
in the unexplored regions, And so I don't think that's
necessarily needed for a Star Trek show to do well.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Honestly, I feel like I'm not saying literally, but perhaps so,
I mean to us, if you watch that, I'll and
this is the up the top of my head, probably
sixty percent of those aliens have never been revisited.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah m hm, well, I mean it's the same with
TMG two, right, I mean, honestly, it's the same problem
with everything, you know, it's because.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Of the voyager everything.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Yeah, yeah, I mean we could definitely do all that
sort of stuff we talked about that sort of like
having a whole second crew that just sort of goes
around and visits second contact. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Oh, extended.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
They discover the Captain Kirk's originals log. They're like, what,
there's an android planet.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Check that out.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
But you know, to your point, like what what what
if not a ship that goes around and does things?
Like what is it? And I'm fine with that, But
what would be the thesis then of the show, Like
if it's not going around and doing stuff, then where
what would we get instead?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Would we want to planet base show? I mean it's
like planet station or ship like, that's the three I
could think of. So now, granted you'd want to go up.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
My favorite sleepover planet station, I mean you have.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
To have a ship because it's Star Trek and startry,
be boring. If it's like Earth type planet for five
weeks and we don't go anywhere and do anything, we.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Have shuttles, shuttles at the wazoo, buddy, I.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Think you could that you could still do that, and
that'd be interesting. I don't know that that would be interesting.
The best place for like the anchor of the of
the era, like the anchor of the network work or whatever,
you know what I mean, Like if we're doing an
anchored Star Trek show like this is, and then everything
else could be something different. I feel like this, I
don't know, just just tradition, I guess is what I

(55:10):
would say.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Is I mean, you know, we could stick them all
on the Enterprise g or whatever we do, you.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Know, and I think I'm done with it.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
We can't have enterprise and enterprise at the same time.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Let's taking a new ship, the you know, the something cool, no,
a news ship, new brand new, brand new type of ship,
a brand new name.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
It's called the Titan. It was it was a brand
new type of ship. Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
I don't know what to be the god, I can't
beat anything off the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
But well, let's see, uh, well, just stick with other
ships that we've had. I mean, you could do Endeavor.
It's a space shuttle. It's got an interesting, you know,
kind of enduring kind of quality to it, Like, hey,
Star Trek's still going.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Endeavor Columbia is an underused name.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
We had it Enterprise but still you know, but again,
Atlantis is a little fantastical stargating. Yeah, and that too,
star trek Atlantis doesn't really your search query is gonna
ping off the wrong thing most of the time. But
I could never I could that could work.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
Love calling it star based Atlantis. And then you're like Jesus,
even stargated Atlanta's or what would you say, Oh, it's
star bassed Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
Okay, what was your concern, Daniel That.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
It's a very minor concerned. It's not a big, real concern.
But if I were like in charge and I was like, okay,
I like the endeavor as a name, but it's too
close to enterprise, start with the more differentiation. If we
just started with something else.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
But like the arrogate, it gives you an f everyone
likes that. No, we're not going on the farr hit.
I'm going on the Enterprise.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
Or the you know, the something that something ahead.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
All the good ones are taken.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Well, you know what, we'll we'll pick this up another time.
Maybe we'll do a whole thing where we make a show.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Crazy Horse can't see any downside of that name.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
You can't see.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
The Agamemnon.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
There you go, the lollipop. We'll give it a real time.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
All right.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
Well, that's it for this week, Darren. If people wanted
to give you their good chip suggestion names, how would
they find you?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
They can go to one Up Dan at number one
not the word No. They can go to doctor sci
fi dot com d R S C I F I.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
And I feel. If people wanted to give you ideas
about what the new uniforms would look like and we're
only picking one uniform and we're sticking with it, where
would they find you.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
That's one for one uniform. Oh, you can find me
on Instagram at the C A P T S f UFP.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
And if you go to those places and you still
want to talk to me, I'm no longer on the internet. Sorry. Well,
that's it for this week.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I'm Daniel Prue, I'm Philip Gilphus, and I'm Darren Moser.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Stranded here because there is no ship on SETI alfha
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