353 - Movie Poster Review

Star Trek Movie Posters

What better discussion to have on an audio podcast than the review of Star Trek visuals?

The trio takes a journey into the wayback machine to review all the movie posters from the 13 feature films in the franchise (6 TOS, 4 TNG, and 3 Kelvin-verse) - with a bonus add-on for the upcoming "Section 31" TV movie. How were all these movies advertised? Especially in the age when movie trailers could only be found at movie theatres? What "spoilers" did the posters give? How much did they lie to us? What could have been improved? Which ones remain your favorite?

Make space on your wall and join the discussion about Trek's movie posters.

(Source for images: Trekcore - https://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/) 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the NED Party.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I'm Darren Moser, I'm Philip Gilphus, I'm Daniel Prue and.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
This is City Alpha three. Hello, and welcome to Citi
Alpha three y Star Trek podcast here on the nerd
Party Network. I'm joined as always by my fellow strandees.
This is Darren Moser taking the helm as we talk

(00:36):
Trek this week. Daniel and Philip, how has your week been?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, It's been good over the past week, just because
I'm still doing my doctor whose stuff as far as
my rewatch, but I did dip into some Star Trek
different nights. I watched the DS nine documentary What We
Leave Behind, and then the next night, since I guess
I'm paying for Paramount Plus now, I watched Chaos on

(01:04):
the Bridge too, So I got the Yeah, my full
Star Trek documentary experience last week.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Because when when did they drop?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
What was it to the Journey the Voyager one? I
think it's soon right.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
No, it's not soon. Yeah, I mean I thought I.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Saw something that like backers got to see it, which
did which I thought meant like then everyone else would
get to see it relatively serious value there.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, Well, because I'll tell you just to reiterate because backers,
you know, it did a New York premiere La premiere
I believe, and then London premiere, which is the one
I went to.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Obviously, why didn't you go to the New York one?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
But the one? But the way they sort of have
showed it to us and then talked afterwards, because there
was a Q and A with the director. But it's
basically it's like, you know, the Q and A is like,
you know, it's kind of locked in. But I mean
you can say something and you know we can't refilm.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
But right you have a better idea of like, oh
I wish you had us if you grouped all of
the talking about seven of nine showing up parts into
one location, that might run better, something like like formula
might change. But like you said, they can't shoot anything more.
They have to save it in the edit as it were.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean, I I mean this is not I'm not
an official source, but just from the vibe, I mean
I would think we're looking at summer of twenty five.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh well, that's not terrible. I mean, that's you made
it sound like we're still three years out from you know,
making it to the Delta quadrant.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
But yeah, it's not next month or the month after
or the month after, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, okay, now that's not bad. I've waited long enough.
I can wait a little longer.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
Having seen all three, which which do you like the best?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Medea's nine that that's it's a nope brainer.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
It kind of is the standard, like it did such
a good job.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
And it I mean, this is sort of a separate topic,
so I'll be short. But it also depends what you're
going for, because obviously Chaos on the Bridge was going
for you know, they had a very tight focus to
the journey. The Voyager one is going to be very
behind the scenes, whereas far beyond this excuse me how
I keep wanting to say far beyond, But what we
leave behind is more the character story of it all.

(03:24):
And so yeah, an actor based more actory based than say,
behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Right, And I mean I get the Voyager one being
more behind the scenes ish, because that's the funny thing is,
like overall, we haven't seen very much behind the scenes
of the Burman era, Like, you know, there's very I
think we've probably seen the most in TNG because they
would put like a blooper real in every single disc.

(03:55):
But even that, like those are bloopers. That's different than like,
here's a candid shot, you know, while they were filming something.
You know, it's always through the camera, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
That might be a future topic. What would be the
documentary for each of the new series, Like what's the
Discovery documentary gonna look?

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Click?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, yeah, the card you just call that the revolving
door just.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Because of STG.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
But it'd be so cool if there was like a
documentary that was like there was one that they had
filming while while the show was going on. That super
cool to see more behind the scenes stuff we didn't
get that. We got like snippets on like Entertainment Tonight
and stuff I remember, but yeah, those little things, But.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean you could have. I think it'd be easier
to do a more modern documentary in modern trek, like uh,
Discovery Onward, because the production timeline is so different. It's
much more cinematic. I mean, I totally get like, yeah,
we don't have time to pay someone to like run
around as our week to week crazy twenty six episode

(05:10):
series like show is being pumped out like a person
doing that as a person who could be helping make
the show. So I get that, Like that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I don't know. You just give an intern a camera
and you let them tark.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's called a phone.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Daniel.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
We all have them.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yes, those totally existed.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Didn't Doctor Who do something like that? Philip? Where there
was there were like people that were running around behind
the scenes and doing stuff or am I misremembering?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, they have without getting to it, they had. They
they oftentimes it's changed and even in the New Who,
which is not that new anymore, they have it have
after shows. But I mean it would be Doctor Who
Confidential or I forget, there's like three other names, but
for one and for some of them they would give
it to the actors, so it'd be like like in
the eleven Doctor era, they'd give it to Arthur and

(05:58):
then they'd give it to Karen to sort of just
film as you know, they're going around the set.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Very very cool. All right, well, Daniel, did you get
to share.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
On what you not too much to share?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
I will mention briefly, and I've brought these guys up before,
but the YouTube channel read otter Media, which I've I've
pimped out here many times. But they were talking about
Galaxy Quest and they had they had Jack quite on
and so he got they love to talk about Star Trek.

(06:34):
So in fact, they were mocking Jack because he was
talking about Star Trek and he was getting something wrong,
and they were like, this guy is actually on Star Trek.
And anyways, it's a great it's a great watch. And
of course we all love Galaxy Quest as well, so
there's just a lot of swirling of coolness going on there.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
But no, that didn't watch anything or see anything else.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Okay, now you want you make me want to pitch.
The Lower Decks goes into the Galaxy Quest universe. I
mean they have all these reality anomalies opening up.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Who's to say, I thought you were meaning what would
be the Lower Decks version in Galaxy Quest. But those
would like all be Thermians because they were technically the
Lower Decks well, not.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
In the show. In the actual show itself, they were
They would have been people, right, they would have been
regular people.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's true. But I meant Galaxy Quest is in the universe.
It's astronauts on some sort of Star Trek, some sort
of Galaxy Quest questing through the Solar System. No, I

(07:46):
almost had it all right, Yeah, no, I haven't watched
too much. I I was kind of coming across some
more artwork and things from Picard season three, and and
I love again what they did with the Enterprise D
kind of refit, but I just wish that we had

(08:10):
seen more of it, Like, you know, I want to
see what was it Nerinda three. I want to see
like chunks of planets still on the you know, the
whole I guess as a lot of it comes down
to the way they light The exterior of the starship

(08:30):
is more modern, so it's darker. There's more like, oh,
there's one sun in this solar system, so there's lots
of shadow. It's not like the television where the Enterprise
was this shining white object flying in the void. So
all that to say, you know, as I loved what
they did with the Syracuse and all of that, I

(08:50):
just wish it would have been in my mind from
from one hundred, you know, thousand kilometers away. You should
be able to tell, oh, this is the Enterprise that
that crash landed, because you should be able to see
like that front edge of the saucer, you know, brown
or not brown, but just re paneled extensively. I think

(09:13):
they they missed out on the silhouette of that looking
like it was reworked, and they made it way too
subtle in my opinion. Again, it all worked out.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But now who's the new people doing it? Not Eagle Moss.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Oh, I don't know the name, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Say fan Sets. But that's not right either, Fan Home
something like that. Anyway, if they put out the Enterprise
d Syracuse, I'm like, oh my god, that's so stupid
because only one thing's going to be changed. But I
will think about it. I wouldn't be like they just
changed instead of Enterprise and they all say Syracuse.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
It'll be like maybe a little bit of repainting. No,
you're you're you're right, You're right.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
I haven't seen like side by sides. Are they that
close to the original model?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
I don't. I don't well, And.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
That's that's the oh you mean by sides of what
of the new of the new version?

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Like I don't know how much they up actually updated
it or.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
The Syracuse Steve versus the Yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Could you tell the difference if you if you honestly
like at certain angles, you I mean, there are times
when it's flying by, and I you have to look
for like the word Syracuse on the side of the
secondary hole, and and there's there is like repaneling on
the front leading edge of the saucer. It's just very

(10:38):
very subtle like so if it's in shadow like you
can barely barely tell. So in my opinion, I think
it should be much more apparent.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Like it's flips it's the new one.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Well that that too, but anyway, anyway, small my my opinion,
my my pot cast, my opinion. So all right, well
today you know we are gonna, in true fashion, talk
about something that you need to see to believe in
an audio medium, which is always fun. But we've done

(11:15):
it before. Is always works out, so I'm not too worried.
But I thought it'd be fun as we've gotten some
new new movie branding coming out to go back way
back to nineteen seventy nine Disco is King, Yeah, when

(11:36):
when primary colors still were everywhere. So we're going to
talk about the Star Trek movie posters, so we'll try
to visually describe them as best we can. We are
also probably going to hit up a couple of like
the secondary posters, because honestly, there were some times where
I was trying to tell, like which one is the
primary poster and which is the teaser, and you know

(11:59):
it's not. Sometimes it's very apparent, sometimes it's not. But yeah,
so we start back with Star Trek the motion picture
the Human Adventures just beginning. This is the classic I
guess rainbow poster as you could call it, where the
red mostly red, yellow and blue is coming down in

(12:21):
a streak from the top of the frame and it
highlights Kirk, Iliyah and Spock. You see the enterprise kind
of ghostly in the middle. Also obviously the refit enterprise.
And yeah, it's it's very much like, hey, here's a
Star Trek movie. I'm trying to picture, you know, little

(12:42):
Darren if it was around that time, like looking at
this on the the kiosk, you know of my local. Well,
it wouldn't have been a cineplex. It would have been
like a to theater. But I mean it says everything.
It's got Kirk, Spock and some girl and uh, and
there's the enterprise that looks it's very small in the uh,

(13:07):
in the frame of the poster. But what what do
you two think of this one? Is? It?

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Is?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
It kind of grown on everybody as being so, I
mean it's been you know, we'll circle back to this design. Guys,
don't worry. It's uh, it's gonna come back around.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean, I think the biggest thing if this came out,
you know and you have to way back machine it,
you know, you have to raise everything, you know, I'd
be freaking out that there's a new enterprise, like that's
not the Enterprise, and I'd.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Be like, what closed? But not quite?

Speaker 2 (13:38):
It's so small. I'm trying to like actual uh you know,
movie poster size, but like bringing that magnifying glass with
you to the movie theater and it's before like, what's
what's changed?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
What is this?

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Is this actually the Enterprise? Is it a different ship?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
You know?

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Uh, you know, I don't know. I don't know, And
I'd be sort of freaking out over that detail.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
No, that's true, and I often, yeah, it's hard to
put ourselves into the context. When I was looking at
the list of poster I got all my posters from
trek Core because they have a movie poster section, and
one of those was the actual like which I have
behind me, the Star Trek the motion picture cut away,

(14:23):
which I'm like it's obviously not a movie poster, but
I guess it also came out at the same time,
which that's like, Hey, we're going to take you deck
by deck on how this is different than what you
saw on the show. But yeah, I don't know. What
do you think, Daniel, would this have caused you concern

(14:44):
if this was the first thing you saw when you
hear a Trek movie is coming up.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
It's hard. I mean, I can't really put myself in
that mindset, I will say, looking at it now, though,
Spock being in blue, you know, because he's science makes
sense right, and red and what we learned later about
commands right so well, and the Murvis of course, and
then we I guess Aliah is, uh, she's engineering or something.
I don't know if she is or not, but that's
what I think when I when I see this poster.

(15:12):
It's fine, it's fine poster. I think it doesn't really
tell you much about the movie though, which I don't
really know how you would convey what happens in the
movie on a poster.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
It's not very like, uh.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's Star Trek, Daniel, you love it well.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And that's the thing with posters especially, is like there's
the visual impact poster and there's the floating head posters.
Like there's kind of two types of posters you get
in general. There's the you know, oh, you know, it
doesn't tell me anything, but it's Star Trek and I know,
and I'm gonna go find out more. And then there's well,
here we'll go to the We'll go to the Wrath

(15:47):
of con one, because that's kind of the you know,
I say floating head. Not these are attached to bodies,
but it is more like, let's put as many people
on the screen to convey. So this one has you know,
Star Trek to the Wrath of Khan. Got our first
Roman numeral. You know, at the end of the universe

(16:08):
lies the beginning of vengeance. Again, great great tagline there,
and we have the Enterprise again looks like the exact
same angle of the Enterprise from the last poster we.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Looked at, but slightly bigger.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Slightly bigger, and it's attacking, which I guess would have
been regular one.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
And does that happen?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Does it? I don't remember, no, because that's not the
it's the reliant that does.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
But before before trailers lied to us postings flied to us.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
But we have the monster maroons, Kirk's got his jacket
and his phaser, we have explosions and people like about
to be sucked into space. There's Cohn right in the middle. Again,
this one I think is better because we see it's
very off obvious that this is the bad guy, and

(17:03):
we know it's Con because the movie's called The Wrath
of Khan, so it has to be it has to
be him. We see the the creepy his people behind
him in the distance, and the bottom we're adding some uh,
you know, light streaks of futurism. But this one, I
think is, you know, okay, we're we're starting to to

(17:27):
go somewhere. It is kind of weird because there's not
really a I guess Con would be the center point
because he's the kind of the biggest object in the frame,
but it's very kind of spread out, like with the
text so low and but goes to gorgeously.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
People in the middle are the captain and Chekhov is
every that's supposed to be.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
The captain's name.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
It's really stomach So yeah, it's really hard to tell.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I'm I'm assuming that it's just general Enterprise people like,
I'm kind of thinking engineering because they have kind of
that red circle on the chest, and I think it's
supposed to show there will be space battle and destruction
is what it's kind of conveyed.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
See that would have been the movie poster motto, there
will be space battle.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I mean it lies the beginning of vengeance, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
But yeah, and I do you know, just just to
see if we can connect them altogether. You know, even
the re cons floating at the top, they're still going
with the two men and strange women. So you know, right,
strange woman, know him Kirkchbox strange woman. Of course, it's
that's true. But wonder if you haven't seen the movie. Yeah,
it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Look like Chris Daelling though, well this is all this
is a painting. This is an airbrush painting for sure,
but it kind of but.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
You know, well the eyebrow issue that they did the
artistry before they hired and they were like, look, she's
gonna be we think involved in Rahm when maybe if
you could just do that and then we'll we'll cast
it later.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, it's it's showing, you know, I mean you could
see it with the eyebrows and a little bit of
the ear that you could probably ascertain its vulcan, but
not necessarily kirkscot his landing jacket with this giant collar.
Uh maybe they were like, let's draw the jacket first
and see who they put in as Kirk. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
But again, and and this is just me thinking too
too much into it. If the poster came out and
you know, teasers or trailers still existed at it, but
they weren't. They weren't. I'm thinking my brain, which is
as old as older than this movie, I don't think
they I'm trying to remember when trailers were on TV,
because that is not did not happen.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
They were always with with movies.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
But yeah, being on like YouTube obviously did not exist.
But in other words, I'm saying, you see this poster,
my first thought was going uniforms.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Right, yeah, right, which was a very big part of it.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
There's not so.

Speaker 5 (20:11):
There is the first thing you think of his new uniforms,
not Con. Oh, hey, CON's back, that guy from that episode.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
That's that's where my.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Oh, it's this, it's oh my gosh, Con is back.
What are those? And then you zoom in on the
the uniforms that you're like were red, although granted, like
after obviously we're assuming you would have watched the motion
picture before at this point and this isn't your introduction,
so you're like, well, at least there's color, because we

(20:37):
drained all the color out last time.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
I think I was a much better poster than the first.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
One, but I oh, oh, definitely remove.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
The CON's acolytes from behind him because they don't really
matter that much, and that weird like people coming out
of his stomach.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
And well, again, I know we know that that those
parts have a minor role to play, but I get
while they're in the poster because they are conveying that
sense of like mystery, like, oh something, this is something,
something's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
But yeah, and also the wrath of Khan, the actual
lettering and the star field which it connotes or connotates
the warp effect but not really. But yeah, if I'm
isolate the whole poster and just look at that, it's like, oh,
is this he man coming out?

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Or what is this? What I kind of feel like
is they they did the top two thirds and they're like, okay,
time to start on that title and they're like, okay,
we need it tomorrow. Oh okay, space right, it does
it kind of feel like it like the kind of
it doesn't feel like the same. Yeah. Again, I know

(21:51):
this is not bad.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
This isn't how it works, but I mean it could
just be like, all right, highlight Wrath of Khan. All right,
what what fonts do we have that'll look really cool?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Spacey?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
What is this nineteen eighty two or something? Right, So
it's like, okay, it's gotta it's gonna pop out. Okay,
that pop out? Shadow? Do shadow? Do shadow?

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, there we go, Like we wanted to look kind
of like the openings of the Superman.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
But not you know, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yes, yeah, all right, well moving on. Okay, guys, it's
gotta get weirder, gotta get weirder. Now. This is one
where I was it was hard for me to kind
of tell which the main poster was because I remember
both of these.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
So the search search for spot memory it's like nineteen
eighty well.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
I made I remember seeing in reference. I'll put it
that way. So let's let's start with this one. It's simpler.
So this is the black one with like a chiseled
granite relief of Spock in the middle. I guess he's
supposed to be in space. I don't know. It was
very earthy, but it's not delace. Yeah. It says join

(23:01):
the search, and you have the Enterprise in one corner
and the Bird of Prey in the other, and it
says Star Trek three the search for Spock. Very clean,
very balanced, Like you see this from a mile away
and you're like, oh, okay, here we go. You know, Yeah,
I get what you're saying. Now. It is more constellation y.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Now, Darren.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Then I kind of first picked up on.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
I mean, I'm not correcting you, but I do want
to say, if you saw this poster, you actually have
no idea what that second ship is. It's the Enterprise
and a ship you have never seen before in your life.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, let's see. I'm looking at the Enterprise first, which
looks all beat to heck. It's got scar marks from
its fight in Wrath of Khan. They still do the
engines weird where then the cells are kind of like
coupling in the middle, but not like that's a little weird.
But yes, the Bird of Prey that is You're right,

(24:00):
that's the first time we've seen the bird of prey.
But it's obviously an alien ship, even if we don't
know that it's clean on.

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Even green there either.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, it's very faded.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
And they've done the worst view of a bird of
prey because yeah, our brains are doing this automatically about
the long neck, but if you're looking at this thing.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
It just looks very squat. Yeah, yeah, what what do
you guys think? We can move on to the other one,
but I wanted to give you moments to chat on
this one. I didn't I don't get the constellation part,
but I like it for its simplicity.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
I'll say that, Darren, he belongs to the stars.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Now, I was just thinking, like naming it the Search
for Spock, putting him on the poster, Like, was there
any quote like and I don't know if anybody I'll
hear would obviously remember it, but was there actual speculation
of like, are we going to see Spock again?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Or is it?

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Was it pretty clear then that it is in hindsight,
But yeah, again.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
He goes to directed by I think you're gonna you
gonna see how that whole thing is gonna work out. Yeah,
right there, I Keep Going to the Right, directed by.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Leonardo Well and Yeah director star Trek search as Fock,
William Shatner, DeForest Kelly, co starring James Douhan, George to Kai,
Walter Michelle and You're right. So he does not get
uh name billing. So there's a little bit of mystery there. Yeah,

(25:40):
but a little, a little, a little.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Look he's out of the movie that much.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
He's the only person on the on this poster, so
you know, true, okays not.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
In the movie that much, but is in the movie.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
So this one I think was more of the teaser.
It's the join the search.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Before they had that.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
My gosh, there's okay, this one we're talking about the
Bird of Prey. Okay, so we got guy, guy girl.
We don't know, but we do kind of know where
we have savag and looks like bones and I'm thinking
that Sulu.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I don't know, but is it.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Who is it supposed to be?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
And then there's a shadowy figure to the other side.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
I was gonna say, Sulu's got it kind of good
because you can kind of tell, but I have no
idea this is supposed to be David. I don't know,
no way in.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Case we recast look, we recast it Savage, we might
recast David.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Make it vague, okay, Scottie, it's very hard to tell.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
He's very far away obviously, that.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Spock and it's kind of boor guy with part blue,
part pink. Uh. And then yeah, here we have the
space battle. We have the enterprise again man drawing enterprises.
They try so hard. But and then okay, at least

(27:07):
the Bird of Prey is kind of swooping. I don't
know is this look this energy beams just like boo
little like takes a ninety degree turn and I don't
know it. Yeah, they're still working on flight characteristics, but
at least it's swooping and you get a little more

(27:27):
of the neck. It's it's but you're right, it's by
the way.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Also a lie, Enterprises never hit during Star Trek three.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Right, this is more of the well again, there's going
to be that's true. The space battle we get now.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Not much of one.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I have to there's a more modern one that someone
made that was kind of like the top down view
in the Mutara Nebula, and that, like you know, obviously
was modern and looked really good. But again, this one
it's but it also comes down to, yeah, does it
does not list Leonard A. Mooy in the list of actors, So.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
I mean he's a cameo really if you want to
be generous.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, but it comes down to is Spot going to
be there? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I know, Uh I joined the search? That the tagline,
which is both of them. I like it, though, I'm
trying to figure out how that viral marketing campaign would go, like.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Hashtag join the search.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
If you decode, you can find Spot somewhere.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
I don't know, right, get your Spot decoder ring mm hmm.
There's a's go to Genesis find Spock.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Genesis Planet Forbid And.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Okay, hashtag joined the Search is a potential episode title.
All right, okay, well, I think we're gonna spend a
little time on this next one. So this is the
main as far as I can tell, again, main one.
The key art, yes for Star Trek four. I think

(29:10):
they're finally hitting their stride in this one. So we have,
you know, obviously San Francisco. It's dominated by the by
the Golden gate Bridge. Golden gate Bridge is what I'm saying,
and it's we see cars, maybe they're floating, but they're

(29:30):
you know, could be in time. But the tagline says,
start eight nineteen eighty six, How on earth can they
save the future? Time travel might be involved in this one.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Guys, can I say a small part of me dies
that they put a space in between start a.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yes, you can say that we can. Okay, our pictures
of our people are way better. We're really hitting our stride.
You can tell this is Kirk Spock. We have check Off,
Sulu Bones, Scottie with a mustache, and and Nohara. You know,
we have probably the best shot of the bird of

(30:10):
Prey you got. Look at that neck, Look at it's flying.
You can tell it's behind part of the bridge, so
it's going through the bridge, which is really cool. Lots
of light trails, Star Trek six foot, Star Trek four,
The Voyage Home, you know, look at we at Leonard
moy as second billing right there, also directed by LEONARDA.

(30:32):
Moy Spock's definitely gonna be in it. I love this poster.
I think I have a copy of this poster somewhere
in my attic. I need to pull down.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
But yeah, me, the circle, I mean it doesn't but
it almost around the faces, almost looks like a queue.
It just needs that little.

Speaker 5 (30:50):
Well, it's weird what they're doing with Kirk and Spock's face.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
That is a little they're kind of yeah, they're kind
of melding into each other, like they're just close to
sharing the same middle eye, like they almost did that.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
I don't understand what that's about, but.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
They're like, look, they argue so much. You guys have
exactly the same amount of space in the post or
you were exactly the center. Everyone is equal, Okay, no arguing.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Might you know you know we laughed, but that actually
might have been.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
I mean, Bones has a little bit of color, it
looks like in his face, but then o Heros and
Scottie are just like you know, a stamp. To put
that in, he was have to.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
Wonder like why why like why are they different? And
like why like like you said, Bones has like a
little bit of color where the placement is Why why
did they pick the way they did?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Because it's just well because I mean, there is something
about billing and size on the poster like it it
does come into play and Kirksbock Bones are is the
main three and then ye.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
What about the other four? And there weren't most of
these characters didn't even get on the other posters.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
So right.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
I was about to say I've lost count.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Because these are all the group that goes back in time.
But you're right.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
But who's who's the first person who's first showing up
on the Star Trek four poster? Is it McCoy or.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
This is Star Trek four Scotty? You mean who shows
up in the movie?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
No, no, no, not all these people have been on the
other three posters.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Oh oh, I see, but it took the.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Fourth movie poster I for you to finally show up.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, I say this is I'm still not sure, but
I think this is Sulu, But.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yes, that's Shadowy McCoy and show.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
The really hard check off check up is counting as
lucky stars. He's on this poster, Okay, he is very
excited for for joining it. Well, I mean we can
see how many are Yeah, nobody else is on the
the international one, which looks like we had we take
the rainbow effect from the first movie and beam it

(33:13):
down into obviously San Francisco from the eighties. It's just
Kirk and Spock, and Spock is wearing his red with
his headband, which is kind of weird.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
And his red pants. That's that's my favorite part here.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Oh yeah, why are they wearing red pants? They should
definitely be black. Yeah. And his tan boots. Oh yeah,
but we get the punk from the bus, so I'm
giving it, you know a little bit for that.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Do you remember when they brought him back for uh, yes,
start remember that, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, It's just like, why didn't they just put him
in his robe? Because Kirk is wearing his regular clothes.
There's no it's it's really weird. The more I look
at the picture and where I get upset. Also, they
changed the date. Oh they traveled back, Oh, because it's international,
so it probably came out internationally the next year. Theater
I was gonna say, I traveled back to where the

(34:12):
twenty th century men had never gone before, to a mad, crazy,
outrageous time. Nineteen eighty seven. Could barely read it through
the starburst.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But by the way, looking at this poster, I mean
never I think his star Trek comes so close to
a police academy poster, because that's exactly what I look at.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
It is a police academy. Look scroll at.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
The very very very top. That is definitely a mouth
on star Trek.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, I was trying to tell what that.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
It's a comedy.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Oh no, no, tell me not. I figured I already
figured out when I was looking at this earlier. It's
the probe. It's the see the white above it, it's
the it's the sphere from the probe coming down. It
does look a lot like a mouth like but it
I'm pretty sure that's what it's meant to be.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
You're right, which is totally so. Did a lot of
work for very little credit.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, are there any actual police in the movie.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, Chekhov talks to the cop about where the nuclear vessel.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Is, doesn't say anything, just looks at him like he's yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's literally this scene. All right, Oh, moving, moving right along.
Still Star Trek for the bridge poster, Great Star Trek
for the international poster. Little to be desired, But that's
all right. Oh, I guess we didn't even talk about
the Star Trek four re entry. Yeah, it's I think

(35:38):
they put it in like the magazine promos and stuff
like that. It's very much like a teaser. Yeah, it
is the teaser. So you know, it's like, oh, hey,
get ready, So actually we're gonna start with the teaser
for Star Trek five. Why are they putting seatbelts in
theaters this summer? And we see a floating in space

(36:02):
seat belted movie chair and then the Enterprise in the background,
and yeah, it's this was like a this would have
been in a magazine, right, this is very much.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Magazine started to not have a space. Just pointing that out.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Okay, yeah, Start eight June nineteen eighty nine, which also
isn't an actual Start eight, But that's all right. Any
any thoughts on the chair poster before we move on?

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I mean right, definitely, that's definite. No, no, no, I would
have two things. One is that the old Enterprise in
the poster.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, that's a very crappy drawing of the Enterprise. It's
got very no it's got square in the cells, the cells.
But it just they took about they spent all their
time on the on the chair. Okay, that is where
the effort went.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Was this like I don't know, like in context, was
this like what we're seat belts big this year or something?

Speaker 1 (36:59):
No, I think it's implying that it's gonna be such
a wild ride.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
I don't get what it's implying, but I'm just wondering
because this is I don't.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Think you're getting what it's implying, Daniel, Are you ready
Daniels movie?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I know this, you do what this screams? And this
is probably the first one that's doing this.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
What about what about the creepy baby in the in
the nebula in the background. I don't know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
What does it know? But but what this poster screams
to me and we'll get to it. I think into
into Darkness and Star Trek beyond. This is a concept
with no script. This is there is going to be
another Star Trek movie.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, what's it called?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Uh? Fine, overront Air. So the Star Trek the Final Frontier, right,
tells you so much about what it's gonna be about.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
And really like it.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
It's gonna be thrilling, guys, It's gonna be oh exciting, yep.
But what's it about?

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Oh, you're gonna need for this movie.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I'm like, okay, you were just crapping out a movie.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
What information can you give me? We can give you
a release month and that's what we can tell you. No,
I think you're you're absolutely right, all right. So the
the main Airbrush one, we're back to Kirk and Spock.
Everyone else sucks to be you. You don't get to

(38:17):
be on this poster anymore. On June ninth, Adventure and Imagination,
we'll meet at the final frontier.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Okay, still not ready.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
You got the Enterprise a flying at us, which looks
pretty decent. Okay, okay, and then we have a mysterious
horse riding individual with a whole bunch of other horses,
and and then you look and you see directed by
William Shatt and you're like, oh no, yeah, so this one,

(38:53):
like you said, it doesn't star Trek four. I think
so far is my favorite where it's like, really what
this movie is going to be about? And this one
is like still in the Adventure and Imagination, is.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
We assure you Kirk and Spock will be in it.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah? And the Enterprise yeah, yep.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
And horses, which is.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Okay, hold on, what is about horses? Don't make it vague?
We may recast make it vague.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Shack base horses.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, I mean, because look, if you had put a
vulcan on a horse and you could still not maybe
tell who it is, that would have been cool. But
this is just I don't know, it's one on a horse.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, it's a shadowy figure skeleton. Yeah, it's very unsure
and there's a lot of them. This very much gives
me like Star Trek two and cons people in the background,
like you know, they're in it for half a blip,
but we're we're gonna kind of put them in the

(39:51):
mystique of the poster. Again. We've crested, guys, we're heading downhill.
Maybe we'll pull up.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
But can I get this point a very because we're
just getting into where you would think my brain memory
would have kicked in because we're now in eighty nine
ninety because obviously four was eighty seven, eighty sixty seven, but.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It started eight June eighty nine. Did you not see
the chair poster, Philip?

Speaker 4 (40:18):
He was very distracted by the very bright red chair exactly.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
But I'm just thinking for a movie about God, you know, Ish.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
It's not about God, it's about the final for tier.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
But I know, I know, But like this did not
get protested because I just think about so many movies
of the time nowadays, Yeah, like A Life of Brian Monty,
Python or like anything that vaguely you know, it doesn't
happen as much in the past. Twenty years. But like
in the eighties nineties, I'm surprised this, you know, I mean,
I'm glad, but I'm surprised I didn't get a few

(40:50):
like Star Treks fighting god, you know, protests.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
So right, all right, all right, all right, so we
got two for this one. Talk about the main one.
All right, Oh, we got lots going on here, Star
Trek six. We're at a Dutch angle, gentleman, Dutch angle
has happened. The Undiscovered Country were beaming up the heads,
the giant space heads of Kirk, Spock and McCoy. We

(41:19):
have the Enterprise. We have an old Klingon ship and
a new Klingon ship that's actually happens in the movie
but in the space time. Well yeah, sure, the battle
for no technically, well there both at the Enterprise.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Well, the old kling On ship never fires.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, the battle for Piece has begun. And we have
you know, villain in the background who looks like a
Klingon with a big old eye patch. I'm sold, guys,
Klingon with an eye patch and rivets. Uh. And then
we would later hearn, we would later learn as the
destruction of practice. Uh.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
If you from the top though, Yeah, the eyepatch goes
much further than the actual rest of the face does,
so it just.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Kind of sticks way out there.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Well, but if you kind of like faded it out
like the rest, it would be like, what is it?
I think you have to keep that.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
No, but that was funny.

Speaker 4 (42:16):
It was just just looks. They could have fixed it
another way, I'm sure, but.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Oh, look at that shot through the entire sauce and
it's totally gonna happen to me.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
This is the best poster so far because I mean,
not only I mean the face is a little weird.
I think you could have softened the faces because it's
a little too real, like more of like the Star
Trek one two and three words, more artistic instead of
like they just like cut and pasted the face, put
it over there, and then put it in the beam.
But this is this is my favorite one for accuracy,

(42:46):
for thrilling, because I mean, look, look the Enterprise getting
attacked to Klingons shadowy figures.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
And I like the fact that one is an older
ship like that actually says way more than if there
were two Birds of Prey. Two bird of Prey says like,
oh a space battle. Old one means like, is this
like an old Guard you know, ship returning from the
past to attack them, you know, who knows who knows?

(43:13):
And the battle for I'm supposed to read into it.
It's what the poster is for.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
And this is the first time McCoy gets equal face billing.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
I mean, he's still third in the stack, but yeah,
it's closest to the explosion. And then we'll touch on
it just for a second, because I remember seeing this
one way more the Star Trek uh six where it's
like the weird creepy space head. I don't like this one.
It's not nearly as good as the last one. It's

(43:43):
just obviously this is the teaser. Yeah, now see I
think they if they if one of these posters had
thrown in the Excelsior. Ah, now you're life, now you're
now you're cooking with gas, all right. So then we're
gonna jump to Burman Trek in the middle. Here Star

(44:04):
Trek generations, let's start with the teaser. They're very similar.
I mean I'm switching between them and it's like almost
the exact same poster, but we have the new kind
of boldly chevron in an oval and I wasn't over
a huge fan of the Oval Chevron, except for like
when it was a board cube flying through. But it's

(44:25):
the Enterprise D and it's flying Star Trek Generations nineteen
ninety four. It's not really telling us anything. This teaser
is saying there will be a Star Trek movie, and
it's actually pretty well drawn Enterprise D. I.

Speaker 5 (44:42):
This is where I'm actually gonna get a nostalgic because
I love the color, the colors.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
I do like the colors ye on these posters.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
A lot, and I remember vividly like having this imagery
on all the games and stuff that came out, and
you know, all over all the promotional materials. I have
very fond memories of the of the Generation stuff. So
even you know, I don't know what it is about it.
I just I feel it, like I look at it
and it's like very very.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Takes you back to nineteen ninety four. Yeah, no, it
does to me too.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, I also find it very interesting. And this isn't
the first poster that's done this, but how much they
squish Star Trek like it is Generations and.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Like, oh yeah, track, But I'm like, look, it's.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
The Enterprise, like it's not we're hiding anything, like it's
I want to.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
See that generations, but whatever it's about. I love me
some family, you know, it's like, that's not going to
happen like I could.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Get if it was like Wrath of Khan or even
Voyage Home because it's like, you know, it's generic space
battle or time travel shenanigans. But like Star Trek Generation
is because of Star Trek. Like, I don't know what
to tell you, buddy, it's a Star Trek movie.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Yeah. Well, and then the main poster is again that
main Chevron Oval Enterprise is flying out of the middle.
I like the I like the flying away Enterprise better.
It just looks more intriguing. The one flying out at
us is kind of like, you know, just it's just lame.

(46:15):
But it's this one's like two captains, one destiny. You know,
Kirk and Cook's gonna be in the generation Star Trek
the next Generation movie. Oh interesting. Interesting.

Speaker 5 (46:26):
That's lying though too, because those two captains do not
have the same destiny.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
That's true, but they do. Their destiny is to meet.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
Okay, well, I guess then that's an interesting way to
bend that. I feel like that's not exactly what that
poster is applying.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
But destined to be captain of the Enterprise. I don't know.
I don't know what to touch.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I would have loved for this poster to have lied
more if they had shown the Enterprise d's there on
going out to the right, at least from my point
of view, the Enterprise A going from the left. Yeah,
well you have Kirk, so like you could have just
totally wanted to be like, yeah, they're gonna beat guys.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Or no, no, make it even weirder, do it? The
Enterprise B silhouette and then people are like even more baffled.
So all right, guys, we're about to cook with gas.
We're about to We're gonna stop with the teaser for
Star Trek First Contact. So we have like another Dutch angle, guys,

(47:25):
Dutches back. It's like you're you're right up on the
Borg cube. The Enterprise E is flying over it. Resistance
is futile. Star Trek First Contact Boom, Christmas is gonna
be amazing. Yeah, this one got me so hooked. I'm
just like, ah, borg borg borg borg borg Borg. Yeah,

(47:51):
it's a great it's a great teaser. It's cool, it's
I mean there's not a lot to say once we
say what we say. But well, and also this shows
the enterprise it does, it does, You're right, what do
you what do you think, Daniel? It's tiny and far away,
but the enterprise is always tiny and far away, and
these posters apparently. No, it's cool.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
I mean, obviously, I like the scale of the of
the cube. You can't even tell what it is so big.
That's super cool.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Trek fans can tell what it is.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
But yeah, we knew it was for sure, But it's cool.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
And obviously we're definitely getting way more into modern like
visual storytelling now, so it's yeah, it looks like an
actual one.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Still only ninety six, but it feels way more.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Yeah, and you can see before JJ we were doing
lens flairs. I mean, look at how blurry that board
cube is. Look at all those lights come on.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
That's true. I never you know, I always felt when
I looked at this it was like the Enterprise was
kind of like strafe attacking it. But now it kind
of feels like the cube is chasing it down in
a way. But neither of those No, you're right, because
you wouldn't have the streaks over the cube if it was,
I don't know where are they going? Who knows? To

(49:05):
the past we.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Were chasing it chases the cube.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
All right, guys, it's a picard, data and girl. We
don't know that. Two men and a strange woman. We're
back to standard. Uh yeah, a strange woman and a
whole host of characters that are the I mean, it's
just is there not a more Star Trek Star Trek poster.
It's it's this one that's the main one with the

(49:31):
board queen, Data and card. We have the Enterprise again
flying always looking good, and are they host of borg.

Speaker 2 (49:41):
I'm looking at those uniforms because again, new uniforms, we
don't know about them, though we're still we're getting to
the age where it was you could see some that's true,
but the coloring look generations, even though it is clearly
the new uniforms.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, they they kind of add some reddishness in the
cloud to make it look but it's it's very hard.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
To tell, but it looks like both of them are
wearing a blue collar when they sure both be wearing
a red different colors red and yellow.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Well, and I just noticed that, you know, this board
guy is the same as this board guy the same
as this board guy, so we had we had a
little bit of copying pasting going on.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
The queen doesn't have tubes going into her jaw like that,
her cheeks.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
So that no, or her head right up here, it's
like they took they kept the top of her head
and then they added the side ones interesting before Her
eyes also weren't like this weird silver. But again the
poster conveyed man Patrick Sewer looks super young in this
poster up all right, yeah, I think well.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
He had to get he had to get fit for
those uh you know tank.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Oh yeah, to scenes.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah so, but I mean, out of all the shadowy
figures we've done so far, Borg are the most are
the best shadowy figures, like because you know what they are,
you don't have to have any details of silhouett and
we're like, oh that's the Borg. Well and remember forces
it's like.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
And this was also the first time seeing the Borg
in the new Borg because this is not what the
Borg looked like. This looks like way scarier Borg than
best of both worlds. Worg So's shoulder.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Move past the good stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Okay, Well, well I was gonna say, do you feel
like a freak's felt bad. I mean, look, I know
he's directing, so you know he's he was getting paid.
But like you know, all the other tos, it's always Kirksbock,
Kirkspock and Picard and rude Data and you're like, oh, okay.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
No, I think he was fine. Like you said, he
got double paid, so I think he's more than happy.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But they said, don't worry, it won't happen again. And okay, anyway,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
All right, the Battle for Paradise has begun. Uh ja,
this is going to be a planet based movie. Yeah,
this one. Strapping into your seats for this one, No,
doesn't really tell you anything, like, yeah, shadowy figure, but
we don't know who that is. We don't know what's
going on. There's a planet, but uh yeah, it's it's

(52:21):
not nearly as striking as First Contact. And that's the
only one I could see. I don't think it had
a squishing that star trek.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
Yeah, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Fine, it is.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
It is relevant to the movie. Yeah, because we see
the guy.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
You know, because again this is where if you're in
a Liela to us so like Insurrection, which against terrible
name for this movie, then do something insurrection on the
on the yeah after you know, like the cards throwing
away a pip or something, or do.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
A scene of like you know, kind of like civil
War where like half the crew and the crew and
they're like facing each other and they're obviously having like
a heated discussion, and you're like, does the crew insurrect
against each other? Like I don't care, that doesn't happen.
Make them think about it.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
But you could do like even the tagline, right, that's
what you call it could be like Picard versus Starfleet,
who will win? Or you know, it could be come on, guys,
crazy one too many bad rules, you.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Know something something. All right, we're not gonna spend time
time in this one because uh yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Instead we're gonna spend all our time on.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Oh yeah, okay again, I'll I'll jump into the teaser
on this one for for a Nemesis. So it's got
the back of Tom Hardy and his uh super beatle,
the shimmer shoulder pads. Generation's final journey has begun. Start
tric Nemesis. There's a dagger? Uh again? Are they are? They?

(53:56):
Are we supposed to ever think that this is actually
Patrick Stewel, No, like that doesn't make any sense. So
and then so his costume is so ugly I cannot
believe he put And then even in the main one,
they keep him all in shadow and it's like giant
data this one. This one is even worse than Nemesis,
which I don't think I was gonna, or even worse

(54:18):
than Insurrection.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
But this feels like like somebody just got photoshopped for
the first time, messing around with it, Like it doesn't
feel like an actual studio.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
First, because I don't like Picard looks like nigelum whatever
in the you know, like, why is this face bigger
than Data?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
He does?

Speaker 2 (54:42):
And then Tom Hardy, you know his character as a name,
but I'm not using it. It's I get what they're
going for.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
But when I see.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
When I see that character, I think, is this a
rock concert?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
He's he's not even listed in the in the bill,
it's Patrick.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
His character was well and he was new right, like
he was.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Like, yeah, no, I know, I understand that it's just
shadowy figure.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
We can recast if need be.

Speaker 5 (55:11):
But also, like how how first contact like felt like
it was sort of revving up to modern times like
this says like, this feels like a two early two
thousands poster in all the worst ways.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
It is an early two thousand.

Speaker 5 (55:25):
No, I'm just saying like it like feels like, ah.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Learned all the wrong lessons of that.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
It just looks so so like Blockbuster, uh cheap rental,
Like you know, it's it's right next to.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Like it's very greeny. Like every time I look at
you know my you know, yeah, if you're walking down
the the sci fi horror section of Blockbuster, it's like, oh,
Star Trek's lots of blues and grays and reds, and
it's like, oh, and the green one at the end
of the row. But yeah, well guys, green was great.
What about blue? Because yeah, Star Trek two thousand and nine.

(56:05):
So we have a few for this one. Let's start
with this one. So this is the the one with Kirk.
I guess it's Kirk, I guess it's Bock, and I
guess it's Ohura. As they're all blue tinted at the top,
and we see the enterprise being built on the ground
and Kirk on a bike. The future begins, which I

(56:30):
don't I don't even remember this tagline ever being used.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
But is this, oh, you guys are smartled me before
after Batman begins.

Speaker 4 (56:42):
Because Batman begins, it's two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
I think, okay, yeah, I think this is what we're stealing.

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Then yeah, it so okay. Again, not a terrible poster,
but I think as far as that's that's the yeah, yeah,
I being iconic. It's the white and black one with
the Enterprise being smooshed or something streaked. Again, it's it's

(57:10):
the new Enterprise, so it already has weird proportions. And
although granted I will say for like nine out of
ten of these posters, the Enterprise is not drawn well,
so this doesn't really bother me at all. But yeah,
this is basically just Star Trek is back, because you know,
it's been a couple of years guys.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
So but then I think a poster like this, I
mean I think less is more because obviously, well I say,
obviously it calls to mind that one version of the
motion picture poster. But I mean for two thousand and nine,
you're leaving inside the actual film, you don't need to
say much other than no, it's back, baby, So you
don't really need to sell anyone other th wall it's

(57:53):
made you know that, shut up, don't ask questions.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
No, you're right, all right, well let's let's I'm going
to jump to the teaser poster for Into Darkness because
I actually feel this one's way better.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
This is the one where Con can't do you know,
it's con somebody Darren is standing in the journal of
a blown out building and the cool part is the
hole in the building and the Rebbel combined makes a
Star Trek Delta. I'm like, Okay, that's actually really clever.

(58:29):
Like you know, there's going to be about war and
terrorism and construction and death.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
I remember, remember the fun things that you guys remember, yes,
you remember what we talked about earlier when they were
like they should lie to us more.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Well, yeah, we said that a lot.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Yeah you get you get what you asked for sometimes
and maybe maybe don't lie to us about the character
that's on the posters.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Well yeah, so yeah, so you have that one which
I remember. I like this one. It's like just enough
Star Trek with the Delta shield. I like that, the
crashing one. So that's the that was the main one.
Star Trek Into Darkness again, it's a really weird like

(59:12):
gradient on the text, like it's really makes it hard
to read. And then the Enterprise is crashing into maybe
Earth a planet, but it's like, oh, in the second one,
the Enterprise gets blown up, and so yeah, okay, I

(59:33):
think the less said about these two.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
I think I would just say for this poster, it
needs more, because again, what are you selling me? It's
called into Darkness with the Enterprise plunging to Earth, like,
that's not getting me into the Maybe.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
If we got the vengeance up in the darkness of
the corner, like just a hint of it, like a silhouette,
Like yeah, no, again, it's resting too much on its
laurels of Oh, it's just star Trek. That's all we
need to say. It's like, well, give us a little something.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
And they thought they were like I remember them thinking
they were super clever, like I didn't have a colon
so Star Trek into Darkness was a whole sentence and
they thought that was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I remember Colon Gate.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Yeah, it turns out it was really not that like
awesome it whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Oh, guys gonna get even more. We're going beyond guys.
Hope is back, Blue is back, and Gold is back.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
We're going up and not down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
We're going up and down. Yeah, it's like, you know,
it's like a pull up, pull up.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Oh no, of course, correct, of course. Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
It is it bad that we're literally signaling a course
correction to the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Yeah? Yeah, So this is the Star Trek Beyond one
with just the Enterprise. Uh we need a colon.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Well look, this one doesn't even say Star Trek on it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
No, it's just the enterprise. Enterprise is finally recognized enough
on its own, apparently for the general hilarious this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Movie was just called Beyond.

Speaker 5 (01:01:05):
We just call it that kind of like, so it
was like an enterprise thing where later on.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Well then, as far as teasers, this is the one
because this is off the air, we get a lot
of the character posters. I remember this one where it's
like ninety nine percent, you know, was it Jayla's head
and it just said Beyond. Like again, this is like, oh,
Aliens start again. No Star Trek, no Star Trek. The

(01:01:31):
only thing is the font is the Star Trek classic
Star Trek font.

Speaker 5 (01:01:35):
So yeah, that's true for just some science fiction movie
called Beyond Like that, right, Well, trick them anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Get their butts in the seats. But yeah, but the
main one is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Obviously vaguely remember this one one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Oh actually this may not even been in the main one.
I can't remember, honestly, it was so hard to keep track.
But this is invoking a lot of the motion picture
where you have Kirk's fucking some girl in the red,
blue and white shish colors. But I mean we all
saw this and we're like, oh, we instantly knew what
they were trying to do visually with this. Oh and hey,

(01:02:14):
it's a Star Trek movie because we finally called him.
Although enterprise this looks on on Spock's face, like what
is what is going on here? He is like perplexed, curious.
I mean, Kirk is like, I still get to be captain, right,

(01:02:34):
and She's like I'm the captain now? And what. Yeah,
it's all a little nuts and the Enterprise sort of
is coming out of the light. It's very obscured.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
You don't want to show it, you don't want to
show it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
But yeah, this one. I kind of remember this one too.
It's the many everyone gets on the poster. Oh this
is the international one, that's why. Yeah, very fast and furious,
very impossible, very Uh, force awakens.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
I'm not making fun of it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
So you have the swarm, you have the villain. This
actually says a lot more about the plot than any
of the other We get a motorcycle, guys, there's a motorcycle.
Kirk is on a motorcycle again, and we have Scotty
Franklin awhere in there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah the top left, isn't it? No, that's okay?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Well, no, I don't think so. No, there are others
I think that have the Franklin, but not this one,
all right. And last but not least, Uh, it's yellow
our section thirty one poster with Michelle No, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
A Star Trek Section thirty one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Yeah, very Star Trek Section thirty one is how you
read it. But yes, so, I mean it's a TV movie,
but we'll count.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
In fact, it is just important for us to know
that Michelle yo has won an Academy Award, as it
is to know that this is a Star Trek movie.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
So that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
We got it, guys, We got her and Michelle Yoline
important as section and thirty one is the most important
thing that Why thirty one is it opening on the
thirty first?

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
No, it is opening on January twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Darren, that's perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Why isn't it? I know, I know, I don't know.
I don't know that they even picked a month that
had thirty one days.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
If you were just a week before, they could have
waited one week.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Well you know the movie theaters. Wait, it's streaming. It
doesn't even matter. You could drop it whenever you want.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
That threw me off because the new trailer came out
the other day and it fooled me for a second.
I mean on YouTube. But the trailer starts like, I mean,
it's gonna sound stupid. It starts like a movie, like
in other words, it says like rated Peach thirteen. I'm like, wait,
what this is? Oh but what there's a TV movie.
This is not a real movie, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
And maybe that's a there's no rating board. I mean,
maybe they got it rated. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
No, they seriously. I will show you that that new trailer.
That's because that's when I saw a note.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I believe you. I'm just saying, yeah, well and again, okay,
I I will give it like it is very memorable,
very striking, the yellow and kind of amber colors. It's
a little it feels super modern, like there's not a
lens flare or star streak.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
To be seen, absolutely nothing about and it also tells.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
You absolutely nothing about Michelle jo is it? Well? That
and and there's a day where it's the third first
know just kidding, it's the January twenty four but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Only on Paramount plus only.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Yeah, original movie and some copyright text down here. That's
even less important than Star Trek. Yeah, I guess so
we'll see, who knows if we'll even see it. But
all right, well that's been Oh that was a fun

(01:06:28):
trip through memory lane of Yeah, it was fun when
we kind of got to the ones we remember from
the nineties and seeing those on the movie Marquees. Yeah,
it'd be interesting to see just where it goes as
we get more movies eventually. All right, but Philip, if
someone wanted to talk to you about your lens flair,

(01:06:53):
where would they find you? Now?

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
They can find me on insta at c apt sf UFP.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
And Daniel someone wanted to find out how many radiant
starbursts should be coming from the Enterprise Warps cells where they.

Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
Should only have one. That is the number one, not
the word one updown.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Just the leftis cell it's sure it's creening through space.
But and if someone wanted to talk to me about
my minimalist movie posters I made when I felt these
movies were so disjointed by their posters, they can talk
to me at doctorSci fi dot com d R s
c i F I. All right, Well, I'm Darren Moser.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
I'm Philip gilphuss Im Diangopru

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