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September 22, 2025 • 75 mins
Derrick Kosinski & Scott Yager are joined by the 5x Champ CT Tamburello.

Everyone is saying Justice for Leka...well what about Justice for CT?! CT returns to the podcast to discuss whether he threw the Challenge earlier in the season, his beef with Turbo, Michaela's decision to throw the recent Challenge and MUCH MORE!

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
What's up everybody. Scott here.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm recording this on Monday morning, September twenty second, right
before I post this podcast to the free feed.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Just want to give you guys a heads up.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You will hear us referring to CT being added to
our Plano show in Texas to close out the year.
By the time you're hearing this on the main feed Monday,
that show is completely sold out.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
All tickets are gone.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
If you do want to be added to the waitlist,
you can email Challenge many a podcast at gmail dot com,
put Texas GA waitlist in the subject, and there is
a chance tickets to become available. But I will be honest,
there is already a lengthy VIP waitlist that is made
up of people who have GA tickets, and we already
do have a pretty extensive GA waitlist that will take
those people's tickets if any tickets do become available, And
the only real way tickets will be available as if

(01:01):
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So please only come through us and email for the

(01:22):
wait list. Just a public service announcement. Though this Texas
show had been on sale for weeks, it had been
announced for weeks, albeit with a different lineup. CT had
not been added yet, but it was already a pretty
damn good one. Derek, Kara, Jeremy, Justin, Tina, and as
we said, more guests to be announced. Now that's not
always CT, that's not always Johnny Bananas, that's not always

(01:44):
Trischelle or Susie or Sarah or whoever your favorite cast
member is, but it could be. And so my public
service announcement to you guys is, if you come to
Challenge Mania for Challenge Mania A, we guarantee you you
will have a great time. But I also guarantee you
that when someone gets added, the show won't be sold
out or won't sell out super quickly. So everyone had
their chance to get tickets to this There were all

(02:04):
ticket tiers were available last Wednesday before we added CT
and then when we did add CT, I even the
day before put it up on Facebook, put it up
on Patreon. Hey, we're adding a big guest. You might
want to get tickets on spec. If you listen to that,
you got tickets. And then we gave two additional days
of password protected on sale for our patrons, and people
had the opportunity to sign up if they wanted to
get tickets. And yes, by the time that password was

(02:26):
lifted again on Sunday, all.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The tickets were gone.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
But that's what happens when you add CT to an
already loaded lineup. I can just tell you that in
the future, if when you see us coming to an
area that is near you, instead of waiting for the
lineup to become perfect or to be your favorite person,
just grab the tickets. Worst case scenario, if your plans change,
you can always come to us will help you sell them.
But also best case scenario, you come to the show,

(02:49):
you make some new friends, you meet some cast members,
even if they're not your favorite cast members, and trust.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Me, you will have a great time.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
The other PSA is this some people saying, Hey, I
didn't even know the show was on sale or that
existed until the last couple days. And look, social media
is weird the way algorithms work and things like that.
I do believe that some of you maybe didn't see
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(03:58):
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Speaker 1 (04:13):
We would love that.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
But the worst thing I hate is waking up to
a bunch of sad DM's head and know about this. Hey,
this sold out quickly because technically this show did not
sell out quickly.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Did it sell out.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Quickly after we added CT Sure, but this show was
on sale for weeks and if you didn't know about it,
yes that's on you, but it's also maybe on me
for not properly letting you know that. You can sign
up for free emails and alerts at challengemaniacs dot com. So,
without further ado, we do have the big man on
the podcast right now, Cet Tambarello. You can watch this
over at Challenge maniac dot com in full video, but
here it is for free for you guys on the

(04:44):
main feed. So even if you can't see the Man
in Texas this December because that is sold out, you
can listen to it here with me and Derek here
today breaking down season forty one and more. Go to
Challenge Mania Dot Live because yes, Boston this weekend is
sold out. We've got Texas sold out, but there's still
a merea shows still on sale. Detroit, Nashville, Buffalo. Now
we're closing out the year, so come see us. By

(05:05):
the way to Godfather Mark Long in Vegas on October eleventh.
We're not coming to Vegas this year for Challenge Mania,
but Mark Long will be there hosting a party on
the eleventh, so go support him as well, but without
further ado.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
You didn't come for me, he came for d NCT.
Here we go. What's up, everybody?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
This is Scott Yeager here with another edition of Challenge Mania.
This episode brought to you by Challenge Mania Live Texas.
It's our last show of the year, Saturday, December thirteenth,
and we may have just added another guest to that
banger of a lineup that already had Carl, Maria, Tina, Derek,
we had Jeremie, we had Justin and now we have
the manners with us today.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Mister CT Tamborello, you didn't come for me.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
You came for D and you came for CT. Get
your ticket to Challenge Mania at Thatt Live for that.
But seet, welcome back to the program.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Let's pay. You know, I was in play always a
pleasure say. I gotta swung about the boys first to
see if they got some room for me some time.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
I awould appreciate the love.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, no, always, I mean it feels like you need
some kind of love because after this episode it felt
like you had no love.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
And I you know, Okay, I understand that it hasn't
been the most impressive season I've ever had, but I
was surprised with the amount of people, especially newcomers, where
you look at like I'm gona here, like look at

(06:37):
the schoolboard, Like I'm not saying I'm top tier over
here right now, but like, if you don't want to
hit double digits, I don't think you should be saying anything.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
You know, Yeah, I agree, and I'm and I'm not.
That's why.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
And the thing is is that they haven't showed the
scoreboard much. And for the people at home that haven't
seen the scoreboard, it's Turbo, then CET or Derek then
see and CT just got two points for beating Derek.

Speaker 6 (07:03):
You can elaborate on that.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, But but what people don't realize is that, uh,
there were so many people if if they if they
placed top three, toll five, you're in the top three,
top five. There was such a fluctuation of point swings
and placements because you know, first place is eight points,
all the way down at eight is one and and

(07:25):
I'll let people, you know, break out their calculators back
at home, but it's just there's a huge swing. But
there was a consistent lineup of people within that roub,
and then there were people we should be talking too much,
you know.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
But again, like we saw the preview.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Where you know, I came into this knowing that I
wasn't you know, that's not that I didn't have anything.
I didn't have any really anything to prove. Don't get
me wrong, I still want to win, but it is
still where I stood. And but it would have been
one thing if I was going around banging drama act
like it was something I wasn't, you know what I mean,
I just didn't expect that. Yeah, you know, that's about

(08:01):
a minute. I didn't expect to. I felt like it
was un warranted and it's just I don't know how.
I just okay. I guess it all stemmed from the
whole lack of thing right, But I okay, and tell
me I'm wrong. It Scot Dirk. What I'm gonna be
pointed with a rookie, and if she's one of the

(08:24):
best rookies in a female why would I want to
send her a phone?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
It didn't make sense to me. That why I didn't understand.
And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
No one ever actually said why they thought I instead
of just being like, well, it wasn't his best performance.
No one's ever seen me perform like that. Okay, but
why would he throw it? And there was no motor
behind it? Obviously I'm not working with the hen House.
That's what we call the girls upstairs, right, because now
he's trying to get rid of me.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Well, then if I'm not interesting.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
To me, it was almost un I didn't quite understan
where it was all coming from. And I'll be honest
with you, I didn't understand. I didn't know it was
uh that deep until you know, I watched the episodes
like everybody else.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
I was like, wow, that's how you feel.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Really, you know, I came into it thinking that this
is gonna be my humble Pie era.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Take it on the chin.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I mean, Dary, you can attest to this. Sometimes you
came in, you can look around like I put on.
You know, I'll give it my best, but I don't
have high hopes.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
This was one of those seasons for me.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
But I mean, I wasn't gonna have a quit but no,
how you can just tell where I'm gonna take this
as a humble Pie era.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
And that was I didn't realize that.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, I did realize that until all right, let's slow
out what the first episode? Right when I came back
into the house and I was already nighttime and everyone
was already showering up at the road and bends and
won't getting a good party. I come stumbling in. That
was when I realized, I don't know if this one's mine.
You know, this one for me? You know, I was
gonna try to keep it respectable, but like I don't

(09:59):
understand now a game, I just don't understand where like
I'm just conniving slip throwing challenges, chiming.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, so Okay, there's to me. To you, it's like
to me, it's thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
To me, it's one of those things, like you said,
there's there's really not the motive for why you would
be incentivized to do that, right. Also, Look, strategy and
doing that is is to me something that I would
almost think if that was what you were doing, you'd
prefer to hang your hat on that, at least privately
to us in interviews or maybe to an ally, you know,

(10:35):
rather than you know, no offense, just not being able
to cut it and go up.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, So yeah, do you think it was?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I mean, look, I I I feel like Turbo is
obviously the catalyst for a lot of this, right and
getting as upset as he got with you.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Don't think I don't think he was the mastermind behind it.
Don't I honestly want him say. I want to believe that.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
I think, I mean, I almost speak for him, but
I think.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Maybe when people came to him after that before mis
I think maybe he felt embarrassed because he puts so
much faith to me and pandemic and it's it was, Yeah,

(11:22):
I'm Derek, you know how this is and the challenge
house especially it's not the real story.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
It's the first story of that people here.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
And I think maybe he felt embarrassed because he was,
you know, riding with me, and then I disappointed him
because he didn't think I would be playing a game
like that, and then maybe things escalated. I don't think
that he was so I just want to trying to
say this. I don't think he was up the mastermind
behind it. But he was like, oh, let's get rid
of Eta. I think he was like this, moll foll

(11:49):
I didn't think he played a game like that. You
want to play a game like that? Few But then
I was like, well, why would I get rid of
leg of it if I didn't think I would want
you right by her? So that way, you know, me
and her could be a team.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
I think it was a I think it was a setup.
I think it was a setup, just just like you're saying.
I think that the rookies did a a good job
trying to get the Vets to come after each other,
and they fed, They fed Turbo a bunch of bullshit.
You guys started started, he started, he started questioning you

(12:25):
about your character, and you put aside, you know what
I mean, No, but he he asked you a question
that offended you, and you were like, wait a minute, bro,
how are you going to say that?

Speaker 6 (12:38):
And he's like, wait a minute, bro, don't talk that.
Don't be talking all that, you know, don't raise your
voice to me.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
And you're like, I'll raise my voice, but fucking want
to raise my voice.

Speaker 6 (12:49):
That's what it seemed like to me.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, no, so I think with me, I don't think
he had. It's not like what he wasn't saying wasn't true, right, Yes,
I'm not in shame as that been a best definitely
out of shame and getting older and all that.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Uh, that wasn't the issue.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
It was when he was attacking my character and I
didn't like his approach, you know, like you know I
can I can tell you. I mean, I'm from Boston,
I haven't took skin. Right, if we don't roast each other,
I can't trust you, right, That's one thing to see
how you feel. But what I took personally was you
didn't even come to me first before you ambush me
in the kitchen, and then on top of that, now

(13:27):
you're attacking my character. And that was what I had
an issue with. No saying I'm not in shape and
all that, this, that and the other thing.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
But what I didn't understand, Derek, was that there's got
a lot of nerve talking all this ship. I've done
more than any of you will that even have a
fraction of cutting accomplishing in this in this world.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
How much do you think that these people, like, for instance, like.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
How many of them are aware of, say, your legacy
on the show, Derek's legacy, because it feels like a
lot of them are kind of in the dark when
it comes to that stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I think I think a lot of them are.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Maybe I don't look and the same way they don't
know about you know, me and Derek in our world, right, but.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
The same way you don't know about that. The one
that's the thing I can say is if I was
gonna go on one of their.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Shows, you know, I do a little bit of research,
and it's not like we, me and Derek would be
hard to find it, you know what I mean? So
to come in here and I like, you don't know
who I am. I just here's the thing, there's no
one that was no one was done nying that.

Speaker 8 (14:28):
If I came in.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
There acting like my ship didn't stink like I was
about to run this ship and I am the challenge.
You know, I'm not gonna kill everybody. That that would
have been one thing, and I would have welcomed that.
But because I didn't, I just didn't feel like I didn't.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I didn't just deserves.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I'll say this. I feel like I deserved a little
bit more grace than then.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
And I just all the things that I've done.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I mean, I'm definitely drone challenges, but if I do,
you'll be the first to know. You know what I mean.
So there's no question behind that. But it's just don't
see that I was getting treated like I was somebody.
That's somebody I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
And here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
If I'm washed off, that's it. Like I sucked, I'm
gonna come in last. I'm not a threat. You would
think therek you know this, dand well think, well, let's
not use a layup unless it's absolutely necessary. I don't
know why I became public, I mean number one, unless
you said, Derek, like you said, it was a setup,
and that was the the narrative they wanted to run with,

(15:26):
which I didn't quite understand that I wasn't gonna solve anything.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
It wasn't even a narrative. It was a fucking campaign.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Justice for La like a CT is the one that
did it, Like.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Man, I feel like Joe Paste and Goodfellows and that
was gonna be a Maine man.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, did you see the episode, because uh, well, I
guess he said it in front of you. Derek here,
and I asked him on the podcast earlier, we broke
it down this week he clarified he was doing this
for posturing and to put on a show, but he
was out there beating the Justice for like a train
at the vote.

Speaker 6 (16:01):
Derek was, I wasn't. I wasn't beating anything.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
I was I.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Would listen Justice for sure. So so first of all,
what they didn't show CT was I go out there
and I give speech. I love speech to put to
give you what you wanted.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Which was planning to do in a couple of episodes.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Listen, listen this this This isn't the easiest game to
play by far.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
This game long enough where we can separate friendship from
the game aside, and a lot of people can't do that.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
How well, but what I'm saying, But what I'm saying
is when I say, like the challenge, Derek, bring.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Your spine with you?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Will you.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Listen when I say justice for Leca? I mean, I
I just don't think that. Like I know that most
of the house and the people that are about to
vote are against CT.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
You want when I met it, anyway, you had none
approved to yourself.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
So this this one I'm talking about, like he's he's
asking me. I said justice for Lecca. After you know,
I said, put Derek Chavez in right, put CT wants Derek.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
Chavez justice for Lecca, you know what I mean? And
half the house was like most of the house was
like yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was just like yeah, no, yeah, I absolutely what
he's saying. Like a lot of people been just misunderstood.
When Shaves watched into the arena elimination and he's like
justice but like everyone's cheering. He was like, no, you
guy's ridiot. He's talking justice to Lecca, but you send
me in against him?

Speaker 6 (17:30):
Right?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
They don't get it, right.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
I think a lot of them maybe he's just a
change of time, Derek, but like a lot of them
are kind of lore. I mean, I want to be
a pocket belief.

Speaker 9 (17:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I think a lot of people have a there's a
lot of main character syndrome fought around and it looked
like it maybe it was a little contagious.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, you became.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Their target and and.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
Easier after Bananda's left, easy to be like, well now
we need somebody else.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
But but look, look, let's give credit work where credits
to Like, I've never thrown a challenge. You said that
you have thrown a challenge Mikayla in this in this moment,
I don't not to my recollection that that I have
not to my recollection. We can if somebody wants to
bring up, to bring up some tapes, whatever, tape whatever, I.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Remember one, someone's gonna remember one.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Let's talk about that. Listen, Let's talk about the game
move that Mikayla played.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
At what at one moment, I'm an interviewer, not the
game player right now. So at some point Mikayla is
throwing the challenge. She's like, at what point do you
know that she's throwing the challenge? At what point are
you like, Dave, you're doing this on purpose?

Speaker 4 (18:55):
He told me, I'm do Listen.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I'm afraid to hide too. It's a guy idea. And
I said, listen, that's okay. It's on and I literally said,
it's on me. All I have to do is get
one right. She saw me struggling because I'm stop shaking
him anymore.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
I didn't think she was telling you in the beginning
of that, because I was like, I can't, I can't.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
She said, you're almost there. You know, she's okay. She
was trying to gast me out, but she saw me
about then she was gonna try to come. I thought
she was, I'm gonna beat you up and she's gonna
try to take it from there. I couldn't hold on
anymore as I like fell off. I tried to throw
it at her, and that was a bad pass because
I mean, obviously a her in the hands, right, I
guess I should answered the phase. And then after she

(19:38):
had dropped the block, at least, I felt like, you know,
we could make up and meak it up on the swim.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'm still a good swimmer. I'm very boyant, if you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
But I didn't understand how like it wasn't until she
fell off on the opposite side where I was like, okay,
and then she started.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Like she was mocking me in a sense. Now looking
back on him, it was like this weird I can't.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
It was like doing this weird doggy paddle.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Like I'm gonna try, and it's like, oh, okay, here
we go.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
But but I just didn't understand what here's the thing,
you know what it is that boy like if one
the problem is, it's like, if one vote's not gonna matter.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Save yourself.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
But there were a lot of people that were thinking
that that weren't talking to each other. Where if people
were more open and trying instead of trying to be
like mastermind the slave and be a little bit more
And I really do think that in the challenge is
going a lot further when you're more transparent than people trying.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
To be because they think it's almost like the what
you're looking for.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
Yeah, maybe I mentioned too vulnerable, but it doesn't and
especially if you're just I'll be honest with you know,
if I guess what I'm trying to say is I
I did.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
There were more people who were begging there, like they
were playing in the side of what doesn't matter anyway,
it's gonna be almost unanimous and then not like the
safer exam like what John A did with very when
he came to the mak. No, most people.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Don't have our relationship like she did with John A
did with Derek.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
So she's I think you can't expect people to stick
her neck on the line on principle they die. So
a lot of people were just gonna, you know, either
high behind the number.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
It's not it.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
But I do think there are a lot more people that.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Well, thinking the same way. And then then then then
everybody realizes. But you know, that's just the name of
the game. I mean, whatever it is.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Now, she doesn't really have the opportunity to throw it.
If you guys get one of the blocks up right,
the only reason you guys are in the running to
come in last is because once you fall, she decides, Hey,
if I fall, we got no blocks, and then as
long as we don't beat LeRoy's time, we can lose.
So I wonder she couldn't have really even fully committed
to throwing it until she knows that you fall, leaving

(22:03):
her up there.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
And that's when she kind of has that.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Good point, A good point. I didn't think about it
one day. Yeah, once she realized, once she knew we
didn't win any if I gotten a block up there,
she would have probably right.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, I think even if you had gotten the block
but lost the time, I think you still technically would
have beaten Leroy and his partner.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
So well, yeah, because we got at least we've gone
a block.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
You're right. No, that's a really good point. That's a
really good point. But because we didn't get a block,
he came down to the time.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
And now let me ask you this. So you mentioned
you've thrown some challenges in your day. When we were
doing our episode breakdown, I threw her a little bit
of prompts because you know, you hate to be the
guy on the other side of it, but when you
have the ball in your court and you have the
ability to literally affect one half of an elimination more
than even the people who win, do you know to
have the hoodsput to do that shows that she's a

(22:52):
gamer taking yourself.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Out of it.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Obviously you're the other side of the coin here, but
in seasons past, do you think that's an okay way
to play the game if you get the outcome your design?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I think that if you're playing the game in a
sense where if you're not trying to throw a challenge
to send yourself to some then all's fair and love
and challenges.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
The only thing I can think of.

Speaker 10 (23:16):
With her is that, uh, you know, she just she
had no reason to try to, you know, help me
because it was like, yeah, there was too much reliability,
especially the political game and all that.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And I do believe there was kind of a snowball
effect where I put one the first that was the
first that wasn't help, right, but then with the hinds
and water.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Stuff, that didn't help any So I.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Was like, straight heights, it's gone over durance. Then then
that stops to be like now you're not getting picked
less and less and less, so then it gets harder
to get points. So it's like momentum works both ways, right.
So but with all that being said.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
Yeah, so it gives people a refresher.

Speaker 5 (24:01):
I mean some of the the points that he didn't get, uh,
the competitions that he didn't get points for mudball madness,
water towers, uh, dirt, the dirt, the digging you did
well to do for you did well, the.

Speaker 11 (24:18):
You did well, and and most of the I mean
you know what I mean, yeah, well to me, it's
also I mean, you're gonna test to this, you know,
as a hall of family where it's it's it's all
surviving the best of you can's just get into the file.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
That's whatever they do that you do, whatever you're gonna do, just.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
You just get to the final and that's you know,
that's a champs to made so to space.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
So you're doing everything you can't have survived to get there.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
But you know, typically there there's enorm as many rookies
on the right on a single season like that, right,
I mean, if you look at forty for the most part,
I don't think I don't think there was maybe what
any rookies, like what you would categorize as a rookie.
But everybody kind of knows everybody, dude. It was kind

(25:06):
of crazy there. They're like, I think like when we
first got there, we were wearing regular clothes. I really
do believe that some of these games thought I was
on the duck, didn't know who was It wasn't until
we got suited up with the camel backs and got
ready to run. It was nah.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
I think they knew who you were. I just don't
think that they gave a ship.

Speaker 5 (25:30):
That's the thing is like at some point in the
game they're like, we know who these people are and
we're here to take their title.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
I mean it too.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
We were there too, we done.

Speaker 12 (25:40):
I know.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
It played a big game.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
What are you say?

Speaker 4 (25:44):
No, I want that I wanted, and I like to believe.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I don't, but I like to believe in one of
these people. Were like, if I you know, all my
time comes and I'm not doing my challenges anymore.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I wanted to be better than when it was when
I got there.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Like there were some people with some vets that want
to want the channels to burn. I'm not one of
those people. Now. If I want to pass the grace,
the torch off gracefully, right.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
I put my scam with some new kids.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
However, you also still got to pay homers of the
people that paved the way before you. And again, I'll
say this again, if I came in there, I got
like my ship didn't stak absolutely.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I just have everything I got.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I just don't think the punishment fit the crime in
this one, you know, And it would have been a
lot more respectful, would It's just like, listen, right now,
it's not not only we love you everything you've done,
but now that the poisons is in play, nobody sees.
Everybody's looking at you like a liability, no doubt. I
gotta earn my keep, all right, I'll learn some more stripes,

(26:40):
that's one thing. But like you didn't have to try
to like maybe I was selling. I'm not to just
the vote, just say you want to vote, because it's
that's this is your game, say this is what I
want to do. Is my game point, that's it. But
this campaign that'll make make it out to be like
I don't know, just masterminds all.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
He tried to throw it and that's why will get
rid of them.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
But then when they're blatantly all ganging up to try
to throw a challenge to get rid of me or
I just never heard the I guess what I guess
what's lingering in my mind is I never heard anybody
like okay, when people stunted saying like even a term,
like when people started saying I threw a turno, what's

(27:22):
the reasoning behind me throwing you?

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Like?

Speaker 3 (27:26):
What how would that benefit me to throw a challenge
to send a rookie girl home or a new threat
at home? When the way the game is designed, I'm
gonna be partnered with new girls.

Speaker 5 (27:41):
Yeah, and and and the way it's design now is
like I mean, at some point like like a like
like a you know may have been on the board,
you know, had she not lost to Olivia, right like,
so it's not like you're trying to like deliver what
you're trying to teach these kids.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
People will treat me like I'm done bar with Big T,
the original Big T with Tyree. I didn't flop with
lack in an elimination.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
I had a bad day.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
We got last, by the way, speaking of that, with
on that challenge, the idea was it's whoever completed the
buzzle the fastest and got to the raft.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
So it goes to the back.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
It goes to the point of what you were saying about,
like this last challenge, right if I got a block
up there, I didn't matter how long I took. I
still want to be Lee Roy because at least I
got one block up right when it came to the swim,
you know, So she wouldn't have Michaela wouldn't have been
able to throw that challenge because it didn't matter because
we got one block up and that was on me
and I drove the ball whatever a block, right, But

(28:44):
it wouldn't matter how long she took in our swim
because obviously the game was to get the blocks up,
and if you got one, it didn't matter how long
it took, because you still did better. So my point is,
let I got more puzzle pieces than Lee Roye. Why
did not that same rule apply from this last challenge
to that one?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
That the challenge that I have would let she had
all the puzzle pieces?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Off Leroy? Did you know?

Speaker 4 (29:08):
You know I'm gonna say this. You know how it
is in the challenge.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Sometimes it comes in, it works in your favorite, sometimes
it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
I'm gonna cry over it, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Let me ask this question from from Brian here. So
Brian wants to know ct in your opinion, now, Will
was supposed to be the hangnail. THEO gets the hangnail
spot because of his you know, impending mri.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
He wants to know, did this change the game at all?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
If so, how so would you have potentially wanted to
go against Will against someone else? And do you think
that maybe michaela doesn't even do what she's doing If
it's Will instead of THEO in there?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
What what do you think there? Or does it not matter?

Speaker 3 (29:41):
No, it doesn't matter. I mean, look, there are so
many different there's so many different.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Variables in the game.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Right, and then I consider myself some of a rain Dan.
I guess right, my girl likes you think I'm want
to say, said sometimes she takes the one in the spectrum.
I think, No, when my aden on that, I think
it's a good thing because I can. I'll say that,
like I to my superpower is I can I drive
into chaos? Right, So all these variables that happen, if

(30:10):
this happens in this happened, if this happened now, you know,
running back when when we were in we're in school,
Derek calculated weren't allowed. So unless I'm sitting on like
bing bang. But I guess what point where like you
can only go down so many rabbit holes where it
doesn't affect you. So I wouldn't worry about Will because
he's a new threat. So and then also I was

(30:33):
honestly surprised at in throwing THEO more than Derek, just
because THEO.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
His attachment. Shooting there's attachment.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
So I'm surprised I didn't throwing THEO because of his attachment.
To let me of course, and he had his knee.
He had hurt knee, right, especially if you want to
get rid of me.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Well, that's why I think this is all a little
bit there.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Even on the table, there might be one or two
people who wanted you out of there, but I think
there's other people who are disguising it as justice for Leka,
when really they want to use you to get out
Derek Chavez or maybe THEO. But in this instance, let's
make sure he gets out Derek shavas.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I, you know, you know, let's let's try to say
I think that uh, you know not. Even when she
was talking about how.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
You know you want to chop it away at people's numbers.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
So right now and like saying, and I'm the opposite
side of Olivia and THEO, who cares the numbers are
number for them is just keep chipping away at their numbers,
and if ctdes come back, it's probably gonna go back
in again. Like it's whatever, you know, that's like right now,
he's built for elimination, He's not necessarily built for the
daily so like whatever, at least we're getting rid of numbers.

(31:58):
I can absolutely understand how lot and.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
I know it seems like in this moment that like
there's a lot of people that want want CT out,
but it was only a couple masterminds that made it happen.
And then when when the rubber met the road and
it was in the vote, was you know, between hey,
do we want to get CT out by using THEO
or do we want to put Derek Chavez in there?

(32:23):
It wasn't like everyone wanted to take the big shot
and go THEO versus CT.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
You know, I mean, she might tracking changed her points.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
Derek Sawas has big points right now too, So I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Well, let me read you some posts from MICHAELA because
she's backtracking obviously in the episode it sounds like it's
about getting you out her Q and A on Instagram yesterday,
she says simple. Someone says, why would you put him
against someone that he could beat?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Why would you put him against.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Someone who would be helpful in the final He said, simple,
because I wanted that mail to go home. How does
Chavez in the game benefit me? And then when also
asked she, uh, did you not like CT? She said no,
I had no interest with CT. We had a positive report.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
It was just a game move for her.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
She said, I saw an opportunity, the move that benefited me,
and he did his thing in the arena.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Goal accomplished.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
So if goal was accomplished, the goal must have more
so been Chavez or one of the two of you,
at least than you specifically. That's what she's claiming.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Now, you know, I tell that's a good point because
I mean, guy's been on a run, right, I mean
on two finals, Like what the last two finals?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
I think.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You're talking about points on the board super well. I mean,
and I said, and I remember when I said on
the last episode three, I think a kid is so underrated. No,
but you know, at the same time, I want to
go back to go back to me.

Speaker 8 (33:54):
I think that.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
I think there are a lot of loud mouths that
were they were kind of overselling it. It's kind of
like online even then you have as they can say,
you have a million followers, but there's a handful at
a super loud and they almost kind of like direct
the narrative on your feet and whatever you made disagreement
that I think that maybe that was happening, and the
challenge says, I hope this is coming off and stuck.

(34:18):
I'm not making this is ample too complicated, But.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
I just.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Me, I just think it was this. I you know,
I almost kind of think that like maybe it was
you know, people they want a common enemy, right, so
NAS was gone and now there's me and then it's easy.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
And I think like the New Threats, as.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Much as they weren't a tight unit, they all were
kind of I think they all deep album looking at
each other like why don't we think they gotta be
rid of the bets? And that'd be kind of came
of thang. But you know what, I didn't really think
what it like that.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I do believe.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I'm sorry, I'm like processing processing all this in real time. Ah,
I think you're a point where maybe it wondering about me. Man,
it was just like the false flag, I.

Speaker 6 (35:12):
Guess it was.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
It was it was it was a win win for them,
right because because the Mikayla, who.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
They were just gonna used me to get to do
their bid.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
Yeah, and it didn't matter.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
It was It's possible that more people disliked Derek in
the House than disliked you. It's just they're making it
seem like we let's get let's let me throw the
challenge to get c T in there, right, theo's already
going in, So it's possible that, like I can't either.

Speaker 13 (35:41):
Go after Olivia's boyfriend or Olivia's best friend if it
goes perfectly, what you have to give Mikayla and that
squad up there, that team up there a.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Lot of credit for pulling up move. Yeah, I mean
you don't.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
It's a really good point. And they're like, listen, guys,
all we gotta do is wait for another heights to whatever.
Let's let's see if he dropped the ball, he's gonna
go in and then that's held me use it to
get did they have him.

Speaker 6 (36:20):
Those girls living in that room, you know what.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
They didn't have a doing like that though they were
doing that.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Yeah, no, I mean like no, it's all fair.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
It's part of the game.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
No, okay, well yeah, then you know, and then then
then you come up with a different way to play,
because like you're typically the super smart, savvy guy, you know.

Speaker 6 (36:41):
And Michaela's kind of taking that role, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
It's and how do they say, you know, when when
the teacher becomes the coach or the student becomes the
teacher or whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Oh soon becomes to c Yeah, well, Derek, But like
at the same time, it's it's a lot easier to
do that when you when you know everybody for the
most part, on this one, like I want to say,
seventy five percent of the peoples.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Came from shows I never.

Speaker 8 (37:07):
Even heard of.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
I mean, listen, Mikayla and Olivia might as well be
like a newer set of or an older set of rookies.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
It's like, hey, yeah, look at it.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Well, we're gonna talk about the women on the challenge
absolutely destroying.

Speaker 4 (37:22):
The challenge that put on a clinic.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
They are, they're running the show for sure.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Absolutely, Well talk about Okay, you mentioned you don't want this.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Game, just be honest.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
You you you.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Want the aging quarter We're the aging quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Who are the newer warbacks that stand out to you,
whether it's females males, who are the ones that you
do think could be the future of this show.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
For the new threats, the women, I think like it's
people that either you love them when you hate them,
and I try to try to give respect to Like
I remember when I came.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
In, I came in home, when I came in Hot
wanted to make a name for myself.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
So one of the things I do regret, and I
would say regret, but I think about like what a
cod should if I was young and I took the
game more serious and I really try to win more.
And I do appreciate that these new kids coming in
coming in Haunt, playing the names, top, the cold about
it or whatever. But they're folming well, they're here to
play and they take it serious. I can respect that,

(38:26):
all right. So like I'm thinking about like new threats,
who I would say and I who who do potentially
have the history on the challenge, Like love him, I
hate him.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I'm not saying, well, don't like him or.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Not, but I did excuse me from what I saw.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
I think, excuse me, Sydney say Adrian.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
H right off them too up the top I had.
And then give me some iving my brain farting there,
give me some more names. No, no, no, for nothing.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Like she had a loud mouth, but she didn't do ship.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
She had a lot of nerve talking with two points
bro Like yeah, And that's when I said in my last.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Interview, right before after I won the elimination.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
It was like a lot of people just take a
lot of credit ran things go Google the important. When
things go bad, I'm gonna blame everybody else, like you can't.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
But so what I'm talking about doing that? Like I
didn't really.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
But she wants nothing to do with me. But then
she realized no one wanted her.

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, how's it feel about me? You with your two points? Yeah,
no one wants to leave though right now. No, I'm
just you know, she's.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Trying to like settle it down and just say, you know,
no car feelings and then go home.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
I don't want that on my conscience.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
No, he's thinking, if I do it in case I
come back, you want to like leave the door out
for me?

Speaker 4 (39:49):
Nah, play out?

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Uh yeah, I wonder to picture even if I had
a chance to know.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yeah, well, well the thing is with her, That's what
I'm saying, is like she brings that to the table
right like she brings them with Johnny.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
You know, Like, don't get me wrong, she's about it.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
She definitely has the qualities when it comes to uh
A Stenton challenges, right, I mean she turned up that long.
Don't get that says a lot, right, even though she
got sucking him here right now, yeah, she could wrong.
She's when it comes to the game, she's got that
that that I don't see.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
She's not happening someone looking for but she's not to
play the game. She's entertaining, right, she's afraid of nothing.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Sure, Joe, Okay, you know what now, isn't you know what?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
You know?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Yeah? I just yeah, D two, I'll give d that.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
I'll give you that, d Aden, Si, I don't you know,
I keep it on biasing. What about some of the guys,
some of the guys, I mean, I mean obviously the
usual suspects, you know. Uh, I think Gabe, will you
know what I mean? You know what you said, Ric,

(40:58):
I think some of Jake.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
There's I tell you you got from it.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
It's just from a team of perspective alone with them.
I honestly think that from the I see this like
a blanket statement with these new threats they were and
it's a shame.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Uh you see it. There's so many people who you
don't see a.

Speaker 14 (41:18):
Fraction, right, I mean, it's you know, that fraction of
what you do see a people that fraction, you know,
had to win over other people in there.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
It's just there's a lot of people didn't see and
just I think that I would tell what it is
money like them or not.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Uh, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
I enjoyed, I enjoy I think that doesn't. I don't
want to just go off of like what people are seeing.
But there's a lot that a lot of people didn't
see it for whatever reason productions decided to show it.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Not will follow that storyline, but stud it's how to
be a favorite.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Because I don't want to be. I don't want to
be uh bias.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Well, let me ask about it very specific starting with
five right.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
There's a question with the show.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
We got a question written in about a particular cast member,
and not just because he will be with us in
Texas with you in December, Christy.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
Christy wants to know what your thoughts are on Jeremy
because he's been getting Jeremy.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Jeremy has been getting a lot of hate from your
fans based on some of the ways he's talked about
you on the show.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Did you know that, I'll be honest, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I'm looking well, last a couple episode, I was a
little crawl off corn by some people. I'll say that,
but I do think, uh this, I'll say I'll send
this about Jeremy. He's you know, he's coming in and
he's a hungry.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
Kid, and he's.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Talented, and he's willing to play. He wants to play,
and he's something to prove, and that's how we should be.

Speaker 8 (43:00):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I do think I can separate the game from personal
Like with Jeremy, there were a lot of times, especially
later on, where he he was Also with Jeremy, he
was one of those people that start, you're gonna test
to this, you know, when there's like some people can't
shut it down and it's just always game all the time, and.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
The cameras around.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Sometimes you just want to just talk about anything else
but the game. And Jermy was one of those people,
which you know, he was just come on with his vibe.
Me and him, I wait, didn't Jeremy was like my
trainer on the show, and I understand, I know justice
and that and the folks.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Wait, maybe he didn't.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
Quite believe that I didn't throw it, But there were
those times where he still treated me with respect, and
I think, yeah, me and him were working out like
every day. And then there was also time when Kim
was went around and we got to stand smoking a
bottle whatever, and he come on and shoot the shit
with me and we were just talking about life in general.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
And it's a shame they don't show him.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
I guess, like, again, there's so many people who are
knowing so much of the show. But I think maybe,
you know, I don't want to show him so grace.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
You know, I don't think he was.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
You know, he's one of the younger generation people that
I can say I'm proud of because yes he should be.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Like I don't give him in the past. I'm here
now and I'm coming for the title. That's what you want.

Speaker 5 (44:25):
And this is what I'll say about him too, which
you know, depending on what side you're on, you're or not.

Speaker 6 (44:32):
Yeah, but here's the thing is he.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Had an alliance with with Alecca and the and Sydney,
and that's.

Speaker 6 (44:41):
How they moved. They moved together, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
And so when it's when it's justice for Lecca from
you know, from three or four of your alliance members
and you got to be justice for Lea.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Do Yeah, that's a good point because I remember that.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
There was like a brief conversation when they were talking
about how like they who they thought.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
Was the strongest new threads.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
We're all gonna stick together and bring the strongest to
the final made the best person wain times water.

Speaker 4 (45:08):
Shot, and I guess I do a monkey wrench in that,
like maybe they thought I would.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Oh my god, That's why D was saying that everyone
thinks you climbing, because maybe they were being open with
me about what was going on. And then I flew
it because because they thought I was still working with
the beads. But then the henhouse, they all thought I
was working with the new kids, so everybody on everybody,

(45:35):
and then after the whole that of things, because maybe
they were trying to like welcome me in as an
old head man.

Speaker 4 (45:40):
They were gonna take me under the wing like we
got you, old man, we got you, pops. And then
they felt like a backstabbing him by throwing the left.
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
And then because it looks so bad, and I think
that one of the reasons why it looks so bad,
I really feel like we just not pack a lot there.
I don't want to I do want to sit down.
I think one of the reasons why I looked so bad.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Was because and I think this came down to an
eagle thing where but I guess it's something crazy in
my in my state, in my head.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
It was it was almost as if it was easier
for me to be like, I'm fat, out of shape
and I couldn't get the lot that rather than saying
I was afraid, right, And I think if I had
in the beginning I just said I was afraid of heights,
maybe things would have been different. But me trying to
downplane act like it wasn't a big deal.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
I think maybe that also rubbed people the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
But like, you know, it was one of those moments
where I can alwao just say.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
Where like you know, like Derek, I used to be
able to show up. I don't don't matter what I
what I look like.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
I come in there to clean up. Give me a
couple of weeks, I mean, to the top, I said,
this was one of those This was the season where
I was like, oh man, I gotta take better care
of myself if I can't these things because I can't
do it like I used to.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
You know, I'm just forty five, and.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
I think, you know, does that make sense because I'm
like absolutely and I have to I think that like
maybe that's why they were saying how is man maybe
a little conniving or something.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
It doesn't really good take well.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
I think I think that's where like Turbo's mentality kind
of came from. He It sounded like he was saying, well,
I didn't like the way you sort of yourself look
at it.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
I think he's like not even a real person at
this point anymore.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
He's an m like he was going from an as
for us, and he's coming from me after you know,
who knows who's gonna come after next.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
And I just look, I'll say this.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Is one trouba. Like I was surprised in this last
episode they didn't see they didn't show any of me
in his engagement, because I think it would be.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
A lot more surprising than people think.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
But but one thing I will appreciate him on Turbo
is a no he's talking online, he's putting on a
good show. And on that right, you know he's saying that,
he's saying the same old, same old, like he's another too,
brother cauld You imagine if all the fans shaming and
shit like that was going on and was against a woman.
Jesus Christ. Nothing I'm saying anything, but what I'm saying
is but turbo with all that stuff he's been saying constantly.

(48:05):
I'll say this, it's part of the show, and that's
fair game. But at least, like whatever he's talking about,
at least he's keeping it above the belt where I
know like a lot of people in this day and age,
but you know, let's CNA you know this that like
they don't they don't know when enough enough to just
what's what's fan game and what's not where nothing anybody
has me I mean, but like it's not like he's

(48:29):
just I guess the best way to say, he's keeping
him above the belt where I know other people.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
So you think that is So that was a question
people wanted to ask you about because the trolling has
continued on social media.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
He's got some AI guy making all these weird things that.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
I don't think he's a wrong person and he's a body.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, he's got someone off and I don't know, he's
got some new technology or something where he's coming out
and Derek, it's, uh, look, it's like the mind of
a fourteen year old kid who thank you, you know,
but I would it sounds like you you'd still consider
that above board, which I think says a lot about
you and your threshold for this kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
But I think a lot of people would be annoyed
by even the kind of the.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
With Turbo.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
It's kind of like, listen, can you want to go
make a name for yourself? Come make a name for yourself.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
For some reason, he's not I I guess I think
like for some reason, I treat him like he's a
new tread. But he's like, I'm vet right, dude, Like
I think every all week long, every week, every episode,
all day, every day, like all you want to do
is talk about me. They just like back, like, look
at go make your own name in your own right.

Speaker 8 (49:41):
You know the.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
I'm gonna call me fat for the rest of you
left trying to make yourself look better.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
You don't like you've got these other things to talk about.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Well, then there was also f but like look the
bobbing and weaving from you know, you threw it justice
for leca to you didn't try hard enough.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
If you're not going to try, you shouldn't be here.
It's like, which is it? Right? So you know what
I mean to me?

Speaker 6 (50:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And I said.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
One and a well placed throwing of a challenge like
Michaela's I mean, I think that's the epitome of trying.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Honestly, what she just did, I think it was actually
a good move. So I don't know. I just think.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Regardless whether I came in last or not, so she
just saves the faith go for her. Now they handle like,
you really have a problem with me?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Well, that's what I'm asking. How much of it is.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Turbo wanting to make a TV moment in the kitchen
with somebody he knows has been involved in a few
of them. How much of it is him trying to
maybe bring something out of you that you don't want
to bring out of yourself.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
And then you gotta think, yeah, I see what you're
going with this. I'm trying ahead.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, I mean because to me, he's done it before
with other people Nanny last season. He picks a fight
with at least one or two people this season and
then kind of begs them to across the line.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
If you really had a problem, you're gonna talk like that.
You no cameras around me to meeting behind the building
right well end the other day, I'll come out with
a fat Let you get a black eye. I'm gonna
you know, who's buying the next rink?

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Next, let me go to the bar.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
That's Monday.

Speaker 4 (51:11):
But if you're gonna be the type of person that
wants to be that disrespectful and.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
That loud of wrong sious and talking that tough knowing
that nothing's gonna happen, that's tough.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Yeah, that's yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Yeah, I yeah, ten years ago when me talking like that,
h it's uh, I mean, it's one of the adults.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
That's part of the game, and you know, uh, and
I'm happy to be a part.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Of while I'm glad, I'm glad you think that some
of this stuff is above the belt because uh, you
know it's uh, it's close, it's sometimes it's close.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
I thought he came after me the other day and
I was like, that's below the belt. Uh, that would
have been below the belt for me.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
And I'm glad he clarified that he meant the other Derek,
and and I was happy that because I don't want
I don't want to go down that path like I've
seen it happen right now with.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
You know Johnny you Derek there, I say, there's one
more coming, Yes, there's going to do.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Because of Johnny. I guess he was man a deep
and she may not want America. I guess he was
talking about four people, may you know wins America.

Speaker 4 (52:33):
And then potentially she also me, I'm like, I got
my girl looking.

Speaker 6 (52:37):
At me like this, I would have been dead. I
would have been if I.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Was like, here's the thing, like why would you even
bring me up?

Speaker 3 (52:45):
Like I have nothing to do with it, you know,
and the clar recond like me and Turbo went on
bed and the mona bunks tanks with each other, right,
which is weird. Time we're in bed, she come scuttling,
you know, ship face. She climbed up to her in bed,
me and Turmoil making fun of her all the time.
And then but then we created a monster. She think
a gremla after mid there, so she kept like leaning down,
leaning down to the shit. She wudn't got to a

(53:06):
point where.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
She was not going to bed. So I was using
Termino deodorant spray as bug spray like bear spray, and
like telling her her go away. That was the extent
of it. And then all of a sudden, like man
was I don't know.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
There was a couple of weeks that was the hottest
you brought that on.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
No one's gonna care about who she look it.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
It's her first challenge.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
She went on, go out drunk on a girl's name,
made out with one of my girlfriends, Big fucking dale.
Who cares. But because you wrought my name into it,
now it's gonna be turned into an expectacle. Now I'm
gonna deal with this because I made I made that gremlin.
That gremlin both when Guy Ben's I had Ben's Ben

(53:43):
Podcast or.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Whatever you think.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
I don't know if it's his or whatever he did,
but he was doing something. He's some man of you.
But then I and everybody that was associated with that
was coming out of the wool work.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
So then he got to the point where, you know what,
we're gonna get to.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
The bottom of this and then come to find out
the only person she made out was and then wasn't
when I was wasn't until Liken did Banana podcast. What
I realized why he's doing this because he's pissed off
dated something.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I don't know, but to me, I was telling I
would have fixed stuff like that when it comes to
young kids.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
But man, come on, not to little below the belt.
Back to my point, Derek, All you're a point.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Don't blow the belt stuff for for for years, and
I still think that the turbo comedic mind behind it,
what you see on camera is still behind some of
this ay I stuff. I still think it's he's still
kind of doing it, you know what I mean, even
though he's not creating it.

Speaker 8 (54:36):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
I'll see this.

Speaker 8 (54:39):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
I think that there's.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
It's one thing to talk about something that happened, but
you're gonna let people, let let them tell the story.
That that's theres like you can't tell somebody else's story.
I don't think it's far to arm. I guess I
don't is not the word I'm trying to say. But
I like you let let people tell their own story

(55:05):
and then you can go from there.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
But to kind of like.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I don't like the idea of like, but.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I guess that's part of the game too.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Like say Gemple, when me and Deal going and tore
on the bus and I remember I was telling everybody.
I remember Devin, I'm like, Devin, go talk to you
about hey, listen and squash it and listen. I just
I will talk about you want to talk about it,
and now you I don't want to talk about it.
And if he doesn't talk about it, it's just I'm
not gonna say nothing about it. And Stephen came back

(55:34):
and was like, yeah, no, he said, he appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
I'm like, cool, Well on a time page you just got.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
So that's when you see me with the grease screen
being like, hey, I know what you're trying to do,
and I ain't gonna talk about it. But the problem
is that there's that code of like back in the day,
I almost feel like there was more on a code
of I'm like I did. You wouldn't talk about somebody
else's scuff unless you knew that they were gonna talk
about it, unless it was okay, whereas now it's well,

(55:59):
if you don't talk about it, someone else will, so
you might as well get ahead of it, right.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
But I'm kind of want to train the popeyes. I
didn't like. I didn't think I was gonna have to worry.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
About that because when he came to America, where it
was like thanks other people who actually are being the
kids of actually kissing her like they need no Dan,
I said, you don't have to do.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
That he did.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
He got the internet talking for for a good week.
I still get this look, Uh, nothing happened. Nothing happened, Cat,
nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
How Chris, I didn't like how we did that.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Sorry, no, go ahead, go ahead, I didn't like that.
A couple of days later after you said that on
his podcast, I guess he had done another podcast where
he was saying that this is the most disloyal I've
ever been on any challenge.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
I'm like, because I was the I think Karl was
like my said son, and I.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Remember being looking at him like I tried to bring
the gap between them sense Carl was open to NAS
wasn't outing, and it was just like it was one
of those situations.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Where like, man, like, it's.

Speaker 5 (57:17):
What do you get?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
What do you attribute? Why are they so it odds
those two.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
You know, I don't know, maybe it felt like it's
maybe it's more I want to say. I mean, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I don't want to don't I don't want to be
out of pocket because I don't know too many details.
But to me, it's almost as if from what I remember,
Bananas and Paulie had real bead and them two was
swinging blave am about that each other, and I think
be goes Cara. You know, obviously she's gonna rive with Paulie.
I think maybe there's some of that so lingering or

(57:59):
I don't know, and bananas man, that guy he doesn't,
he doesn't. He's like an elephit man, he's he's not.
He's hold the bruce forever. So maybe that because I
don't that's the only thing I can think of, really ill,
because look at you, look at then.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
It wasn't about Jake r Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Then so like when you get to see me your
own when you get you know, well, your own medicine,
it's about America.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
No one sounds about me. So to me, I'm like,
so you admit it was about Cara. No, no, no, no,
nothing wrong.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
And I think because I backed Carra. Now it was
like it was like because me and I'm always have
his little dance and now were like, mister missus Smith,
you know of that part where I was like, oh
shut up, it was just a little bomb. That's how
I think he was like coming at me when he
said that I was on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
It wasn't below the belt. It was all the belts difference.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Yeah, it was like, yeah, I think I think it's
a way. Also like wait, huh, I think it's I
think it's away for him to keep it interesting to
you know, like I got none better. I'm gonna play
with Cara and makes it make some TV magic, right
like like like his little sister or something like you know, like,

(59:19):
uh like he could pick on her, not pick on her,
but like he could suck with her, you know what
I mean, Like.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Yeah, no, no, yeah, maybe he's annoying that cars not
playing along.

Speaker 5 (59:29):
So now he's like, well, well, yeah, I know you're
not gonna play with me, so I'm gonna play with you.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Oh but I know he's like, you know, he's in
the mixt me.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Am Olivia Dion and nont know.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
But yeah, wait, who hit you below the belt?

Speaker 5 (59:50):
Me?

Speaker 6 (59:51):
Uh no, nobody.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
I just been seeing it years and years and years
online where they just go below and I just, you know,
I just think it's it shouldn't be our universe.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
But no, you know, maybe waste, maybe somewhere back in
the day. I don't know. Not everybody likes me.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
I mean, look, I gotta I got a really terrible question,
unless Scott you want to ask one First, I.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
Love, I love a terrible question.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
I got a terrible question.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
So, like you mentioned like like being you know, not
being able to climb the ladder right, like I I
saw you, Like like I saw you, it was almost
like final destination. I saw you trying to climb up
that ladder as far as you could go, and then
your leg just like falls in the middle of the
state and you're hanging upside down.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Did you ever have that visual while you were going
up there?

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
My biggest sphere, my biggest fear was because as you're
going up right, you're not going straight up. Your feet's
like you're kind of climbing this way and you're like,
my biggest fear is like as I'm shaking, the wind
is blowing and he's shaking up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
My biggest fear was it was not going up, it
was falling down.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
And I was so terrified that I was gonna, like
I was gonna get caught.

Speaker 8 (01:01:04):
In that ladder.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Yeah, and you know what I mean, Then like turn
the fuck man, You're jumping that water and it goes
from two sixty now I'm over three hundred pounds, and
it's like and it doesn't and every step is like
you're not going straight up and down. You're like this
due and just you know, my hands are burning, my
cams are burning. Yeah, every time, like every time I

(01:01:28):
go to step up, if it's just I I was
like the hall we got longer, you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
Know what I mean, And a horror film and a
signing or something.

Speaker 6 (01:01:37):
I saw it. I was like, I was like, I
was like, maybe he shouldn't. I was like, everyone's like
he he you know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
I was like, I was like, I trust me, I
want to. But like it was funny. It was like
even if I started to get better like we did,
that wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Called the cyclone. Yeah, that one, for me is a
lot easier because it was the last thirty years rock climbing. Yeah,
I'm gonna beat it this much. I'm gonna show you.
I'm gonna show you right. Yeah, you know, I couldn't
hear anybody yelling, oh now you didn't climb. I didn't
hear that until sold in the episode.

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
But that was I was like, oh, I got there,
how much?

Speaker 3 (01:02:08):
Everybody you know about halfway up, three quarters of the
way up, and then nah there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
The same thing's happening with this. I'm like calves and
it's like, oh, it's just it's spinning and you look
down and it just you know, it's the hallway and
the shining again.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Now it's even further and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
The spin.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
The spin definitely made it a lot harder. The spin
was like, we're gonna fall off this thing quick.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
And the lord you sat there, the more energy you're burning,
and it makes it even harder.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
So yeah, you're like, you better and they have to
like fall from that far off or I can just
fall from this high out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
You know, and then oh god damn it so like so, but.

Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Obviously like fifteen years ago, ten years ago, like you,
you would be able to do that, right, like somebody
terrible not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
Even that, like maybe five years ago, I wasn't a tool.

Speaker 15 (01:03:03):
I'm looking at say it wasn't a tool, you know,
fucking Troutlett off into the hospital, broken tailboa and the
things people don't under stand out like, oh, like I
looked at it when I got hurt back on.

Speaker 16 (01:03:16):
God right, I went back to back give away two
hundred on the way out, and I was gonna run
off for the sunny eight to seven whatever it was
I'm challenging, crushed this that whatever while right off to
the sunset.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I didn't think I was gonna come back, right, I mean,
I don't know how many times are retired by now,
But the point is, but my biggest like I looked
at it like there was no better.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Way to write off at the sunset. Couldn't wrote a
bed on me. And then it's like, but then the
goblet opposite into that spectrum. Right, So my worst nightmare,
I'm coming back on and looking like the old the
whole quarterback I should have retired on time.

Speaker 6 (01:03:49):
I'm saying, that's my terrible question.

Speaker 5 (01:03:52):
How does it feel to be the everyone's favorite aging quarterback?

Speaker 6 (01:03:58):
Because that's where we aren't we?

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
Err grace Right, Yeah, I'll tak you live.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
I live back into everybody I used to give.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
The ship for it, that's but anybody else that I
felt like compete like me or whatever it was for
whatever reason, like, ah, this is what I felt like.
So there's a part of me that's like, this is
my humble I call him my humble Pyre. And then
so this is what I gotta do.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
But at least I know what I got to do
to improve and get But I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
If you noticed it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Joe was coming back a little bit, A little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:04:45):
Bro, I know I know this much.

Speaker 5 (01:04:47):
If you apply yourself, if you if you apply yourself,
you're you're getting up that ladder, You're getting up that
mon You're fucking superseding expectations when you apply yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Yeah, well I think it's more. Yeah, that's fair to say.
I think I can come up with applying yourself. You
have to have a sense of you know, the case
of the fuck it's right. He's just like, okay, what
and you jump off that building?

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
A ye, No, well you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
You got up on the plane or it first behind
the corner, you know, when you hit forty five?

Speaker 6 (01:05:22):
Man, Like, yeah, can I do that every day?

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Can I go back to doing at least twenty percent
every single day, five days a week?

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Dude, I don't know how you did it. You blow
your knee and you're like back, like right away, I
don't know that means a full yell. Don't lie, that's
not full yel.

Speaker 6 (01:05:40):
No, I'm like sixty five percent. I had no business.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I know it. I know it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
I'm like I'm starting on, but I'm doing I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Still in there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
I got something out. I remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
I honestly thought you were pulling like a cory because
that's what he did when he heard it in need.
But he had them if you had the mechanical neck brace,
knee race like you do that braceless and but I
remember when you jumped in on the was it the
first tight top of water? It was like a cyclone
but without spinning. It was in the water.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
We need to jump into that.

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
Yeah, to the tunnel. Yeah, into the tunnel with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
The streams and doing thing and didn't show it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
But damn, dude, I thought I was like, oh ship,
did he live in a girl?

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
Because the way I thought I was gonna die, I
thought I was drowning.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
I thought you hurt your knee again. I was like,
there's gonna way that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
I'm just trying to throw off that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
But I remember you. I remember you hurt your knee again,
and I'm like, dude, that's me.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
It was like, is that worked it? Like?

Speaker 6 (01:06:32):
Hey, you know what was it worth it? You know
what wasn't worth it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:36):
Is back in the day it was worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Back in the day, it was like, if you want
to win so bad, shoot me out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Of a candle if you want I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:06:42):
Well, I mean the mud, the mud pit.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
I shouldn't have been doing that, the mountain, I shouldn't
have been doing that, But I fucking did it, and
I'm fine.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
Uh you know, you know we're doing it. We're still
doing this. Fine, listen, We're still doing it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Bro for five Fine, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
I comes up here though, you mean like I'm fine,
You mean.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Like I'm here, Yeah, I'm fine that uh you know,
in the game here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
I said to Rolling Policy randomly too, because I used
to make fun of him all the time because he
was always afraid of heights.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
But with him, with his he's always been.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
But with him carell his his him being afraid of
always made him perform better because he just wanted to
get it over with climbing. He had just climb across
a rope from going to another and I think he
won that one. I was like, oh, he's afraid of heights.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
Yeah, yeah, he But on all stars? Have you have
you though?

Speaker 5 (01:07:43):
Have you apologized that? Do you you remember being like
the well, I remember, who were you mean? Like you're
being like the mean kid? You were like the mean kid.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
I think you know, I think I was being I
think uh see well, in my mind, I was. I
didn't think I was being anyone.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
I mean, I just thought, you know, don't come if
you're don't come if you're not ready to do this
like the same way I'm getting now because what I
used to I gave people before.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
So because you're taking it serious.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
So I mean it's say two little you know, you
see now it's a little bit more camplgated than that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:19):
But I respect it though.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I respect it because that was that I was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
It was crazy, I was, and I just I saw some.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
Video I was like, god, I was the title shoot
for was it Gart or Inferno was when Dan Murro
was riding around his bike and I think I was
twenty three twenty four at the time.

Speaker 4 (01:08:38):
I was Inferno tah the one I just posted.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
And I'm thinking, like, wait a minute, those the kids
that are like talking this trash about me are that
age now? And and then when I saw that ton
of shoot that said maybe that's one of the reason
why I posted it, because I was like, wait, I
was that their age acting the fool talking the same way,
So it's me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
It's just kind of a read of passage.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
But I talked to me like at least I can
say that again, I respect that they careen often with
and then the kids are showing some teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Yeah, I look back at that at that time when
I was araised acting fool like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
That, and I was like, I don't fun Damn, I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:23):
I thought I was on the right side.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Are wrong?

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
But this question is a bit of change your pace.
But Abby wants to know earlier in the season we
also would have with Kara having to leave. She says,
you offered to go home with Kara. I know it
was sincere, but the part of you just want to
leave because you were struggling. Did you have anyone supporting
you in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Oh, there wasn't really a lot of people support me
in the house. It became I was more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I think I had cooties at that point, right, And
it wasn't anything against that raised a game, but it
was just, you know, I'm among the most both ways
and momentum, my game this season was shifting in the
wrong way back and that was kind.

Speaker 4 (01:10:05):
Of like seeing yourself.

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
I have a follow up question with that, have you
ever felt like this in previous seasons? I mean, I
feel okay, and to day.

Speaker 14 (01:10:16):
It was me and that's the world anyway, you know.
But I didn't give a funk back you want don't
get it, but it's all I was like, I think,
can you catch the many guys? Well, I know I
feel you know, I'm back in the day even like,
don't get it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
I get smoke for everybody. You know, I'm ready to
eat for everyone and.

Speaker 9 (01:10:36):
What like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
So I don't know about you. I want to speak view.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
But there were times went me.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
I was so fucking sore after a challenge, and you
know it is like especially when you're training again, working
out again, that's not the next day is a day
after the next, and then.

Speaker 6 (01:10:51):
It's yeah, I was literally I was using the I
was using the pool. I was using the pool as
an ice bath. Was using anything I could to fucking help.
I would I would go in the water at like.

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
Another hole, climbing in the little dude.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I feel like we were like on highway like construction patrol,
some like inmates that were getting like trying to get.

Speaker 12 (01:11:14):
Time off their sentence and we used building roads for
chili and and dude, and like the like the show
on TV, like it it's like the difficulty level of
some of these challenges like I don't think it comes
across to like the viewers on like how hard some.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
Of this ship is, or how long the digging challenge was,
or or like even the fucking cars watching the cars
fucking zoom.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
By dude, it was so deflating.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
One we dug out the first haul to carry everything
over to make the field goal posts right, and then
I covered.

Speaker 4 (01:11:48):
I remember, I was so proud.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Of myself me as any We covered the up to
the line where we thought were okay, yeah, we're about
to kick a field goal that we might win, and
then when the reps came over and said we had
a fill the hole entirely, I wontn't come home with
you because you know what, I really he needs someone
to be there with you to this tough time. I'm

(01:12:11):
not trying to make light of versus choice in series,
Like there were definitely I'll say this, there were times
when I was like that work.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
That actually I don't know, But then I also looked
down it, like, I mean, that's.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Kind of like the challenge in general.

Speaker 6 (01:12:29):
And when you're breaking up, you're breaking up, we're losing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
I'm really I think you're going into it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Liked so hold up one sec where we're we're having
trouble here in you real quick?

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Oh yeah, there it is.

Speaker 6 (01:12:43):
His phone's probably dead and gone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
That's it.

Speaker 17 (01:12:47):
Well I'm gonna hit him up and say I lost you.
Look at that beautiful we have fell in water. Well,
I'm surprised we got so much out of him at Well.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
I'm losing you, Scott. Oh really, this is like Infinity War.
Scott's gone too. Hello, yeah, I can hear you now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
All right, good, all right, Well we're still recording, so
why don't we chat while we look at this gorgeous
still of CT there. Yeah, if we lost him, you know, look,
I hopefully, hopefully there's a lot of season left to go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
We can have him on again and or obviously we'll
have a end of.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
Season chat with him on December thirteenth at Mike Drop
in Plano, Texas. Tickets are on sale with the password
removed this Sunday, the twenty first, at around three pm,
but if you want to get tickets before that, we
are rolling them out to patrons first. This show has
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(01:14:16):
Live on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Should we call it Yeah, I'm gonna let him go.
That was fine. That was good. That was good, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
If you want more thoughts, I mean, if you haven't
heard it yet up on the main feed, we've got
the full episode breakdown.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
I think that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Plus, this is a great companion one two punch for
this week Justice for Lecca, but as we heard, maybe
a little bit of justice for CT as well here
And we thank you guys for listening. You want to
watch this, and you want to watch all of our
interviews until obviously the video cuts out. Challengemaniacs dot com.
We appreciate you. Shouts to the pod squad and we
will see you guys in Boston next week, Big Boston Week,

(01:14:51):
Big Boston guest on the podcast this week, Big Boston
Show next week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
All right, everybody, have a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
Thanks everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
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