Ep. 504: Adrienne Naylor

Derrick Kosinski & Scott Yager are joined by Adrienne Naylor.

Adrienne was a standout on Vets and New Threats but we didn't get half of her amazing story on the show! Tune in to hear about her epic life and journey to The Challenge! You won't believe half of it! This is the Full Interview that we previewed last week! Happy Holidays everyone!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
What's up, everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
This is Scott Jeger here with another edition of Challenge Mania.
This episode brought to you by Challenge Mania Live, New
York City, coming to you from the gorgeous Big Room
at City Winery on Friday, January twenty third. Michelle Fitzgerald,
Mark long Car, Maria Sorbelo, and West Bergman all got
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They'll be signing them live and in person. And we
just added Ryan Keho and Jay Mitchell to the mix,

(00:37):
with more surprise guests to be announced. I'm sure go
to Challenge Mania do Live. You get tickets for that
Chicago Bulls and.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
A whole lot more.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
You didn't come for me, though, you came for d
So on the line right now, we have Derek as always,
and we have as he describes the partner that may
have gotten away from him this season, I'm bets and
new Threats. She was one of the standouts. She was
one of the all stars on this season. Give it
up everybody for Miss Adrian Naylor. Everybody, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I Also, this is my f Oh no.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
God, I have to be a social challenge podcast. This
is my first, like actual one, like since the show
was finished, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Your first unofficial podcast, that's the show.

Speaker 5 (01:14):
Is actually like fully now as well?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Love that?

Speaker 6 (01:18):
Yeah, I would. I would say she's almost like one
of this season's unsung heroes, if not the unsung hero okay, uh,
you know because there's there are not that many people
that come on the Challenge and do win four eliminations. Uh.
I think there's only been about a handful of people
that have actually done it in forty one seasons, and

(01:39):
you are now one of them. So congratulations. I think
when I first mentioned that to you, you're like, I
don't even understand what that means because unlike many people
on the show, I I correct me if I'm wrong,
you're one of those people that like never saw the
show before you came on, right, Like you didn't do
I did watch like.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Some episodes, but in the UK it's really hard to
stream and so we only have it on Paramount over here.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
And I was like, my management mentioned it to me
and I was like, that sounds up my street, Like
that is something that I would love to do. I
Alay said, I'd love to do like S E S.
And when people ask me what the challenge is. I
always describe it that it's a mix of Big Brother
combined with sa S mixed with I don't know if
you had this over in the US, but we used
to have a TV show called Total Wipeout.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
We have one that similar kind of but what's s's SS?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, what is that?

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Oh, you don't know what SAS is? Like the Special Forces?

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Oh, it's like Special Forces training and there's like a
big show on it over here in the UK and
everybody loves it. It spe like Special Forces training. So
I always describe it as like it's a combination of
all of them.

Speaker 6 (02:52):
I just I just watched the celebrity version of Special Forces.
We we do have that. I think it's only like
and it's only a few seas. I think this was
maybe like their third season and one of the one
of the housewives uh daughters had won and also one
one of a big gymnasts from the United States also won.

(03:13):
She was on there with her football player, a former
football player husband, what's her name? What's her name? Scott
got Anyway, it was an awesome show.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
I loved it.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
So I was wondering because, uh, there's another girl that
did the challenge. A while backer names Gabby.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Yeah he's just done. Yes, so she's just done it.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
I so, I just I just saw her promo on
on Instagram that she was going to be on that.
I didn't know what S A S stood for S S,
but I was like, Oh, she's dressed in like the
the Special Forces gear. I wonder if it's like the
UK's version of Special Forces.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yes, but it's big old he that's like it's on
it's loads.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
We probably stole it from you. It's probably what happened.
I think.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I think D they probably took it like similar to
what we did with Love Island and right because Love
Island existed over the UK for years. Now they've americanized it,
domesticated it, whatever you want to call it, and now
it's going on over here. But I remember the first
few Love Island folks we got on the Challenge theos
et cetera. They were all UK Love Island and that's
where that show started. So I'd imagine we probably saw

(04:17):
the Special Forces thing, took it over here and that's
what you're watching now. D is the American Americanized version
of of S A S S E S or.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
S A S A S A S.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
What does it stand for? S A S.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I don't know, we're gonna have I don't know, special service.
It stands for S A S. Who dare wins? Wait?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh wow, but it doesn't say what it stands for. Okay,
what does S A S stand for?

Speaker 6 (04:46):
Special American Services in the UK?

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Just kidding?

Speaker 6 (04:52):
No, So, so this is how I would describe when
people don't.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Know Special Air Service Special Air Service.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
Like maybe it's because it's the Air Force.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, because it says SAS can stand for several things,
most commonly the elite British military unit Special Air Service,
So that's probably ye, it's probably like their version of
think like.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
The Seals or the or the uh yeah, the Marines.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
It's like, you know, that's what it's like, a specific
to the British army term.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay, col you hear that. You know what they're talking? Okay?

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Cool. So when people in the States don't know what
the challenges I tell them it's like a mix between
Survivor Big Brother and Fear Factor. Do you guys have
fear Factor out there too? Or did you?

Speaker 4 (05:35):
No?

Speaker 6 (05:36):
Okay, anyway, who cares. Let's talk about the show that
you were on. So because this is another like show,
I think that's here in the United States and over there,
and I don't I don't know where it started.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
You Netflix stole this one, right, yeah right?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
I think it was a UK possibly originally, and they
used to be botchit crazy. They actually legally used to
get married and then they chase and again they reave
up the whole show.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
So, and this has actually a bit of been in
a side scoop.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
The production actually got the series of my show wrong,
and so technically mine was the third third series of
the new series, but they put down like series like
nine or ten whatever it was because they were including
the old series. So THEO actually had to run up

(06:25):
and down twice because they they got it wrong, not him.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Oh wow, So that was a trivia question that they
got wrong.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
But they told him he got it wrong because they
had the wrong.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
That just goes to show right like literally, and that
could have it didn't obviously, but that could have cost
you a final That could have been a four hundred
thousand dollars mistake by their their department. Oh yeah, I
see here, Who's still together? From Mary to First Sight
season nineteen. So this thing has been on a ton,
both in the States and over there.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
So that's crazy in the UK, really popular, and so
what is it?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So because we have like a lot of these high
concept dating shows now married at first Sight, love is Blind,
you know whatever, So what what what specifically is married
at first sight?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
So basically people who are like themselves unloking in love,
and we basically go through all these processes of telling
dating experts dating experts aka production.

Speaker 7 (07:26):
But at the time you're like, oh, love experts great,
like three Furby like, so you tell them like you
know what you're looking for, all that jazz, and then
they will match you with.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
Somebody that they deem is going to be good for
you or you know, oh they're not looking for that,
or yeah they've you know, they both got the gym,
they're going to be really compatible, but that's really not
the case, especially like My Kiss. So yeah, they will
then match you, and you go through a whole process
of like film and like your backstory, you tell them
everything about you, and then the first time you ever

(08:00):
meet this person, it's kind of like you do it.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Back to front.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
So you will go to the altar and you meet
them at the altar and I promise you will be like, oh,
you must know something about them beforehand. I'm like, I
didn't even know this man's initial I figured out everything
about him at the altar. And then what happens is
you then go on a honeymoon and then you have
to go and live in apartments with like the rest
of the cast, and you all have your own apartment

(08:25):
and you have to do like different like things to
like different relationship challenges and and then every week you
have like a dinner party with all the other casts
and they give you questions from the from the experts
from production to cause drama. So yeah, there's a lot
of drama in it. So you know, like the creaming
and screaming and crying and on the challenge. I've seen

(08:45):
it all, like so it's fine, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's are you legally married? That said alter or No, you're.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Saying that I am crazy, but I'm not that crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Like if it was to legally marry out have not
on it to be honest, But yeah, it's it's still
like very surreal. You go and buy a white and
dress you and buy all your friends and family down
and it's like it's all illegal, all like the formula
is of a wedding, but not the league all is.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, right, Well that would be terrible if you were
like in court for like three years after deciding who
got twenty percent of whose income just because some stupid
reality show.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
You were okay, it'd probably be like the story of
my life.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
And I'd imagine one out of every twenty or so
end up working out. Right.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
I just saw that, like a couple from Love Is
Blind season whichever, this one season Lindsay and I watched,
they just had their first kids, so I guess Love
was Blind for them. That's crazy. So it did not
work out with you and this guy? Now that's crazy.

(09:53):
So it did not work out with you and this guy.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
No nevidence, you're not more good dance? Sorry? Do you
need to go and watch my hinge Checkers story about
my recent day?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
What is hinge Heckler?

Speaker 5 (10:07):
So have you ever heard the Tinder Swindler?

Speaker 1 (10:09):
And it's a Netflix show? All right, it's a documentary.

Speaker 6 (10:12):
Right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
And recently in the summer, I was dating a guy
and he was obviously I thought it was the best
thing since Lifespread, and I was like, oh my god,
he's amazing.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
Da da da.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Turns out he was having like six of our relationships
at the same time as me.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
So yeah, Like I was like, how do you have
the time? Like please?

Speaker 4 (10:34):
So I decided to, obviously having a little bit of
a platform, to share the story to one of.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
The people of the UK, because he's sampling the whole of.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
The UK, and I obviously needed some sort of headline.
So I said, you've heard of the Tinder Swindler, but
now it's time for the hinge Heckler.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh oh my god, I just looked it up. It's
right here.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
But why go with hinged Heckler instead of unhinged Heckler?

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Hing hinges the hinges the place insite that's where h
hinges like a tinder. Yeah, hinges like a tinder. Yeah,
I just think it Unhinged Heckler would be like tinders,
like it's like two thousand and late. Apparently, like the
other day we sat next to we sat next to
somebody on a date and I was like, oh, is
this a Tinder date? And he's like, oh, I could

(11:21):
tell you've been married for a long time. He goes, Tinder,
I don't use that anymore. I was like, well, what
do you use like you know, you know, bagel bumble
or whatever. He's like no hinge. So I guess hinges
like the.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
New Yeah, accepted on to riot, Yet what about.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I feel like heckler though maybe it means something different
in the UK because to me, heckler means like someone
kind of like, you know, yelling at you at a
comedy show or something.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
But I would say hustler like the hinge. The hinge,
I don't I.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Don't know research becau obvious, you know what people online
can be, like Scott, So I did my research. I
made sure that the heckler was like the right term
and like like the harassment type vibe like yeah, I
made you like it was the true representation because again
it might be bon for it's not real.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Wait, I'm seeing it's part nine, part eleven. How many
parts are there to this series that you did? Oh my,
so this let me guess, did this take off on TikTok?
Because this is I mean, people love this like true
crimey shit, there's nothing better than someone getting uncovered.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, a little bit, not like hugely.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
But is he still out there? Is he still out
there hustling and heckling now? Or did you guys shut
him down.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
I wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
I mean I still get messages off women saying this
happened to me from the same guy.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, so it was. So it's basically like you
like going on a date, meeting a guy and then
talking shit about him.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
No, no, no, I was in a full blown relationship with.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
Him, Derek, Okay, and he's not one guy children.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
I met his children, I met his family, I went
to a family wedding, well right, while he got somebody
else pregnant.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Oh so basically, so there's a there's a there's a
there's a tender, tinder, swindler guy whatever like that.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
One. I think was like money based, right, like there
was money.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So so this guy, let me just tell you, because Derek,
clearly you haven't heard about this. This guy was like
next level and that he would like he would like
rent like a private plane to make it look like
he was rich enough to have a private plane, and
he would like take a girl on a date to
like brunch at like the like four Seasons. So she
would think, oh my god, I'm about to meet the
millionaire in my dreams. But really, really he doesn't have money.

(13:29):
He needs money. Then he would like have the woman
like wire him like sixty grand or something. He would say, oh,
I need it to And he was like swindling people
out of money while also you know, dating all these
women and this and that, and then a couple of
them figured it out.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
They do this documentary The Tenderers.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, it sounds like, so this guy was he trying.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
To financially swindle you guys are just multi multi day.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
It was just the emotional like every single one of
us the same.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
So this guy was basically treating multiple women like they
is number one. Meanwhile, he's kind of side piecing all
of you guys and mentally manipulating you guys.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
And once the cat got.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Let out of the bag, you're able to prove that
basically this guy is like, like you said, taking you
on a wedding date when the next day he's getting
another woman pregnant.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I mean, this just sounds like the nineties.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Me and him were itly and he's texting a woman
telling him telling about yeah you have a woman sorry
too to not just want to wow.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
That is well the hinge Heckler you can still find
on Adrian's TikTok. I highly recommend checking that out. So
did that scar you, like for instance, So I don't
know if that came before or after merrity, first sight
or whatnot, but it sounds.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Like a reason this is like the past few weeks.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
This is just a few weeks. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
This So the hinge Heckler is like, oh wow, okay,
So so this probably has a scarred? Wouldn't even be
the word You're probably just like today is not the
day to ask you out for drinks. Probably, if I
had to guess, like not me. I'm saying if somebody,
if you were out tonight, you're probably watch.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
This podcast that wants to sweep me off my feet,
then I know, because you well, if anything he teaches
me is that I am still a good person, I
still give him enough chances that even when things were
gone wrong, because a lot obviously went wrong, and when
you watch it all like I was still really trying
for the relationship and it shows that, like my heart

(15:17):
is open to that and I'm still a good person
for trying to see past people's bad points.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
So like, to me, it's like, why am I going
to give.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
Upon potentially meeting somebody and finding love and hindram my
life when ultimately, like that's not on me, that him being.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
A bad person.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Oh so for any fucked up guy out there, Adrian
is the woman for you. After after chance.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Yeah after I mean no, I don't know what it
was about this guy, because like he wore unbranded white pimpsuls,
which would really give me the it usually.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
But like say that again, he he wore one.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Like unbranded white plimsuls.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
What are plimsuls?

Speaker 6 (16:01):
That sounds like a.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, yeah, Like.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
So he wore like non brand name shoes and that
should have been a red flag and it was, yeah,
it would give you the And now it definitely why.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
Because on our first day he trama.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
You'll see all this in in in the series, but
he tramadumed on me on day one and.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
I was like, I can fix you.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah wow. Well it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
So I don't know if they knew this going into it,
but you get cast for this Challenge season that ends
up kind of being like speed dating in a way, right,
because not every season of the Challenge is like that.
I know you've only seen a few, but a lot
of these seasons you get the same partner the whole way.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Sometimes you don't have a partner at all.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
This season kicks. This season kicks off, and it's very
much like speed dating. You're switching up with a new
partner every single week or a few times a week.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Then later on you settle in with THEO.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
But there's always the yeah, someone want to stake a
claim and maybe you know, date somewhere else for a
little bit day.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
And now isn't it really so used to it?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
And dare I say your relationship there at the end
got a little bit dicey, Like I'll be honest, Like
watching that from Afar, I was like, man, I'm I
felt bad that you and THEO were married at first
sight because I was like begging for you to get
a divorce there at the end when he wouldn't even
go swimming for you in the finals.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
So I know, I know, it's I think again, it
shows that I, up until a certain point, am willing
to compromise a lot. And I'm quite good at communicating
when you know we need to talk, we need to
get this done, and you're not listening to me. And
I think this is where and people might comfort me
for this, but this is where men don't realize when
women are like, right up, bad enough and they're like, well,

(17:41):
you've not told that to me.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
It's like, no, I have.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
You haven't wanted to listen until I've said fuck this
enough enough. And I think that's that's what I had
to do with THEO towards well for.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
All things of it. And then you just you know,
the me and THEO doesn't listen.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
And then did two obviously haven't. I disclaim I actually
haven't watched it two yet because it's not.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Here.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I can't believe they don't just make that easy for you, guys, Like,
that's so ridiculous that they wouldn't just make an exception
and be like, she lives out in the UK, Let's
send her the screener, let's let her watch it. No, instead,
you have to wait for it to hit whatever station
it hits there on a delay. Come on, guys, come on,
get with the times, guys.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Yeah, so hold on before we get into the challenge.
So how do you win? Uh? Married?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
At first?

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Like, no win? Okay? So then, so how did you
get picked for that? Did you were you casting? Did
you did you put in an audition tape for that?
Or you put an audition tape for like a different
show and then they found you.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Like so I didn't apply at all. I always kind
of knew that I would go down TV route. I
don't know how, but like I used to like do
the whole game is not the window thinking one day,
you know, like I just knew that I was made
for more than staying in my small town. So for
those that don't know, I'm from like the tiniest place
in the UK.

Speaker 6 (19:07):
What's it called, Derek, oh Ship, hold on, give me,
give me, give me like ten seconds, hold on.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
The shire.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
See I would have been just as bad as with STO.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
I'm from a little place in the UK called the
Lake District.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Lake.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
Yeah, I forgot that I would have.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
So it's like a tiny little place like it's just
full the mountains. It's not commercialized like no churin restaurants
really like it's just very like secluded. And I used
to wear two hundred and like seventy pounds. I used

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to wear two hundred and like seventy pounds.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
So I used to be really really big girl.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
And I started to change my life and I went
on a huge wed lost journey and have now lost
fifty kilograms.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
And what is fifty kilograms in pounds in pounds, is
let me eat.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Two point two two point two pounds per equals a
kilogram right.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Like one hundred and twelve pounds. Wow, So like a
whole human basically.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
And I used to poust a lot about that. And
then I also used to have a really like abnormal job.
I used to work on a nuclear plant and so yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Doing what doing what? On the nuclear I used to
work in like.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
The project's team in in the like nuclear industry. So
I used to go on site every day. Yeah, in
the office.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
You study that in school? Like what is your background? No?

Speaker 5 (20:50):
I am no, no, No.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's horrifying. You're just like applied at greg'slist.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
No because like no, literally, like I am, like some
do you has just grafted their way through life. And
this is what I really love to show, is like
anything that you want is fucking possible. Like, do not
let anybody put you in their little box. Don't tell
you to dream outside the box, don't tell you to think.
You know, do you like when people tell you, oh,
that's not realistic for you.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
It might not be for me, It is because you
want to think that it's not.

Speaker 4 (21:19):
And I grew up in what you guys would call
the project. I suppose, so I grew up in a
council house in the UK, just you know, parents working
like a normal job, and like I just knew that
I wanted more from life and I so when I
first came out of school, I went and was like
a travel agent. And then I started to get into makeup,

(21:41):
because makeup really used to help with my weight loss, like.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
In the sense of when I was bigger, I would mask.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
A lot of like my feelings with like put a
makeup on, because that's how I would feel pretty. And
then I started to do that for other people and
loved helping other people, so then I started to do that.
And then to get my weekends, I basically everything that
I knew about travel and went into a really bad
admin job on the nuclear plant, so you have to

(22:07):
go through like obviously on.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Your background checks and things like that. And then from.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
There I worked myself into a really good job in
an amazing I used to basically work for like an
amazing company on there, and like there were there were,
there were fantastic I had everything. I had a pension,
great job, amazing and you'll leave a full year sick pier,
if I was pregnant, things everything.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
But it wasn't enough. It wasn't what I wanted. I
didn't feel fulfilled from it.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
And I got approached by Love Island originally when I
was doing TV and it just never worked out. And
then so I had I think it was two interviews
for LEVI.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Yeah, when you say you got approached by Love It
so you're just working at that time at the nuclear
plant and they found you via was it like Instagram
and that you were yea.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
At this time, I was like going through my whole
weight loss journey, so I was posting a lot of
my Instagram about weight loss.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I was really into hiking, so obviously I was this glam.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
Girl up in the mountains, you know, and like at
that point, like my photos like would like go viral
because you know, I'm this girl with all this by.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
All my hair extensions and like steal my makeup on.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
But I was like up like roughing it in the mountains.
And then when they found out that I had this
weird job, they were like, you're great. And then they
also found out that my mom has not something I
really share a lot about, but my mom has ms,
and so I had like.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
A really ill disabled parent.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
So then I had also the this sounds awful, but
the background sob story to go with the weight loss
and then a crazy job, and I just had like
the whole package.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Basically before you're fucked up, you'll be great on TV.
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, that's take five.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
You're like five people in one like on a on
a CASTP survivor, they have like the weight loss journey person,
the person with the sick parent, uh, the person works
in the power plan, and the gorgeous woman.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Looking for love all all that and you're all of
those things and the.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
Problem parents and and and then we all we always
have a problem parent, like a parent that we have
a problem with that that we don't get along with.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
Yeah, and I don't like my dad, So I didn't
know that.

Speaker 6 (24:16):
Yeah, I knew that one. I didn't want to share it.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
But it's basically my dad's like, my dad's horrible. My
dad like has told me to go and die a
horrible death. And he told me that I used to
be too fat. He's like said like all everything that
you can imagine not to say to a child. My
dad has been that mom and so yes, I've got
all all these stores.

Speaker 6 (24:35):
I got I got one more for you. She's like
a super duper athlete. So who's the who pushed you
into swimming and rugby just for starters? Because you're you're
good at everything? Uh, who pushed you into doing that?

Speaker 4 (24:50):
So in school, obviously I was a bigger set girl
like you know, and I in secondary school, I used
to play so I broke my coldblone plan rugby, and
so I used to play for like our local team,
and then I used to play for county and then.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Yeah, like as a kid, I used to always get
the swimming budgies.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
So I grew up swimming, but I hadn't done swimming
for years until the challenge.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
And I mean yes, and I forgot that I can
still swim pretty all right?

Speaker 8 (25:18):
Yeah yeah she fucking can?

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Uh yeah you were you? Yeah? Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (25:24):
D So yeah, no, we're talking about like like like
almost like the perfect cast, Like she could just be
a perfect cast member, like from one of her stories,
but she like literally has like all five of them.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Well, this is why.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I'm a Gemini. I'm the personality. What can I say?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
This is why podcasts are great because no offense to
the amazing production and editing team over there at the challenge.
We get that you have a lot of exposition and
everything as well, but I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
We didn't get any of that yeh from you during
the show.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Uh the headliner I think being you know, And Derek
brought it up on the podcast a few weeks ago.
Derek has had been beating the Adrian drum all season,
and I think I said, like we were like maybe
seven episodes into the season, and I was like, really,
I'm not getting no offense. I'm not getting that from
like the edit that other than you guys obviously going
into elimination.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm like, I feel like I know nothing about you.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
About her, I said at the time, and he goes
and said alive on the podcast, Oh, she has a
crazy weight loss story, and I go, and that's something
I would be. I mean, because I go through a
weight loss or gain journey about every eighteen months, so
you can guess what part.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Of it I'm at right now. But like so I
was like, wait a minute, really, I feel like I
would know that.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And then obviously I follow you on Instagram now I
see it every day, and it's obviously very clear if
you seek it out. But other shows like Survivor Big Brother,
I feel like they often just based on the nature
of the structure of their shows, they do a better
job with the backstory element, and The Challenge never really.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Gave us that.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
I mean, first of all, they never gave us the
weight loss Journey monologue from you, but they certainly didn't
give us either of the parents stuff.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I definitely didn't know you worked in a nuclear power plant,
and I had to look it up.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
To find out even what show you had come from.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
So that's kind of just sadly what comes with the
territory when you're on a show like The Challenge with
so many like bells and whistles and challenges no pun intended,
and you're starting the show with sixteen rookies, so you
only get so much time to talk about any of them.
So I'm so glad we have you here because one
hundred percent you're, like, like I said, five different people
wrapped in one and sadly we didn't even get one

(27:24):
of them on the Challenge as far as them letting
us know that.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
So m M, I think what you said, there is
really like a good topic to like to join is
the fact that there's so many of us starting this
season that you know, it's a blessing and a curse
in a sense that people don't really get to see
that side of our stories and Noah's like individually they
mentioned like a quick snippet of who we are, but
there was no like obviously when I don't married at

(27:50):
first sight, we have a full sit down, speak to
the camera, introduce ourselves.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
This is where I am.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
The film is for a full week, whereas obviously on
the challenges, especially doing a season vetts versus new threats,
whereas new cast is so hard to do that. And
you know, I'm so grateful that I've got to say
that my like new American like followers on Instagram have
been incredible, and everybody else came up and be like,
oh wow, like I knew that, like you were like

(28:15):
great and whatever, but now like I think even more
of you and they have just been incredible. I have
not had like I don't actually maybe I shouldn't say
this just in case it happens, but like I've not
had any trolling. I mean I don't have Twitter, so
if it, if it's happened on there, then you know,
ignorance is bliss.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
But as Instagram goes, I've literally.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Had nothing and it's been amazing and just support from
everybody and yeah, like I'm still here for it.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
Yeah, And and I think I think you're just a
pretty well rounded character. Like if something that you didn't
like came your way, you spoke up against, you know,
someone being an asshole, whether it was even like Johnny
saying he was the challenge, and then more that there
was the one pushback we got was from you, and
you were like, what do you commission the show?

Speaker 5 (29:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (29:05):
And then you know, then you had the whole like
Sydney back and forth, which I felt like I personally
got understood your feelings towards Sydney more than I think
the audience did or even Scott did, because I was
in the room and that time where you called her
a miserable bitch and she kind of just like shrugged
off and then moved out like two days later. I
think I was like the only one there that saw

(29:26):
that and understood that. And then at some point I
think I heard her say somewhere she was like, well, yeah,
I was miserable. I was miserable, and I think for
like me and you, like we could tell like you
are not happy here at all. And then I think
she probably got happier when she moved out. But when
I saw the conversation between you and her on like
h on the Instagram page, I was like, oh, I

(29:50):
didn't even know they talked like that. So uh, you know,
I just think that I think people appreciate like who
you are on the show, and as far as like
getting to know like the deeper parts of us, I
think that takes a couple of seasons. But but for you,
like the weight loss journey is like mind blowing and

(30:13):
to tell, like because I'm when I saw the pictures
that you that you've posted since I started following you,
I mean it is. I mean, talk about like two
different people like you just me. I don't know if
I'm you know, being disrespectful by saying any of this,
but like you, I mean, it looks like two different people,
like doesn't.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Yeah, it is in a way as well, and like
you know, so a bit of inside scoop.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
I actually almost didn't come to the challenge. So the
week before I rang my manager and I said, I
can't do it.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
I've got too much going on. I had like a
lot of illnesses myself before I went. I was on
antibiotis right up until the day I flew. I almost
lost my mom before going, so I was in and
out of hospital. I was moving house, trying to launch
a business all before flying to the challenge, right, And

(31:04):
it was just I had gained probably about twenty pounds
doing the challenge to what I am now, and I
was like, I just don't think that it is right
for me at this time. But then I was like,
do you know what, No, I'm so mentally strong, Like
I've been through so much shit in my life, and like,
like you said, Scott, I've lived like a hundred lives, right,
So why.

Speaker 5 (31:23):
Can't I go and do this? And it proved on
day one what did you call it? Episode zero?

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I outran half of them skinny bitches up that mountain.
So it just shows that your size does not determine
who you are. It's your mindset and my mindset to
back then who I was, Like, my weeloss hasn't just
changed my physical look, it's changed my mindset.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
Like I now back myself a lot more than what
I used to do.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
And that's not saying that I don't have insecurities, because
as anybody does, I have insecurities.

Speaker 5 (31:50):
But I'm a very secure person.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
And like you said, Derek, I will stand on my
shit like I've got something to say it I'll say.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
But I'm never aggressive.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I would never just come for you out of malice. Well,
if you want come to me, comes to me and
we'll have it, no problem.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
But back then I would never have done that.

Speaker 4 (32:10):
I've just been like, right, walk away, you know, no problem,
walk all over me.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Well, I think it says a lot, to be honest
with you about you, but also the season you had
that like you said, you haven't experienced any trolling. Ever,
you have a pretty high approval rating for a rookie.
That's tough, And as Derek said, I think it has
to do with the fact the beginning of the season
you and the other UK people got kind of put
in a box and maybe targeted by some of the
bigger names of the show. Then later on you and

(32:36):
THEO become the little engine that could that's going in
over and over again and getting to prove yourselves. And
what I always say is that although it. Obviously, on
one hand, sucks to have to go into elimination, especially
if you lose, it does afford you the opportunity to
win over the fans that the other people aren't getting.
So the people who have the easier road, they don't
get that pathway to showing the fans what they can do.

(32:58):
And so other than maybe a yeah or me or
maybe you know e Cedric And there's a few cast
members who along the way got to kind of prove
their work this season, a lot of people who didn't,
and then the first time you see them, they're going home.
Whether it's an easy or whoever, like didn't necessarily I'd
imagine garner the same positive feedback that you got, and
the fact that you got that without the weight loss
journey being common knowledge to the average person. I think

(33:20):
it is even cooler because I think if people knew
that going in, it probably would have, you know, let
people know, hey, maybe take it easy on her a
little bit, or hey, you sort of have to root
for this person.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
She's coming from a place of adversity.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
And I'll be honest, I don't think the average Challenge
fan even knows this store, or they're probably finding out
about it today on this podcast if they didn't find
out about it when they followed you on Instagram, because
I'm shocked the challenge didn't lean into it more. I
would have imagined we would have gotten some like kind
of pretentious sort of you know, weight loss journey montage
in the first few episodes.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Pardon my, maybe I'm wrong, but did we ever get it? Like,
I don't did they know.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Of it? Yeah, there was a tiny like at the
very beginning and like a little introduction of it, but
apart from that, yeah, like it I must have just like.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Looked the other direction during that part or something, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
And I think because there were so many of us,
right and I was like one of the first people
up there, and they just obviously quick snippets of everybody
who they are watching, all the front right by, and
that was it.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
And you know, I think, like, yeah, it's amazing what you.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
Know now that everybody's like starting to see me on
Instagram and like look for me, like after the show
and Jerymy, I've seen a clip from another podcast that
Jeromy done saying that you know, Adrian was so overwhelmed
getting to the water and it wasn't the fact of swimming,
because I'm not I'm not scared to swim. It was
the fact of getting changed in front of production when
I was already not feeling the way I wanted to

(34:41):
be to go to the challenge, and then getting changed
in front of production where there's there's no way you
can just hide. You know, we're out and outdoors, I've
got to put a wet suit on that's too small.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
For me, and so I was just so overwhelmed. Anyways,
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
That that's it's a huge part of like who I am.
But I wouldn't say it like my whole personality, but
it's definitely a big.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Part because because I'll be honest, like the obviously the
finished product or you of today, right, like you probably
read to the average person as a very attractive, very fit,
confident person that no one to the naked eye would
think other than it being awkward to change in front
of anyone ever, would think that, Like you have that
added baggage of like not wanting to do that in

(35:23):
front of people. That's sort of something that you wouldn't
really think of until you either hear you say it
on a podcast or maybe if you know some of
your backstory. So I think that we're used to as
reality fans but also fans of the challenge them kind
of maybe just cherry picking from the UK, you know,
good looking, semi interesting people from other shows and no offense.
I'm sure people probably just put you in the same boxes.

(35:45):
I guess this is the next Melissa Gabby.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
I forget the other you know, blonde from the UK,
and like, you're obviously so much more layered and interesting
than that, Whereas, like I think a Survivor probably would
have went the other way with it and almost in
a in a cringe way, you know, had the host
like and Adrian, you look like you had a hard
time there. Does this remind you of anything in your
back because that's kind of the heavy handed nature of
Survivor these days, where they really want to hold like,

(36:09):
you know, hand hold you through yeah, well yeah, and
and that whole like you know, that life path, that backstory.
They're always showing you the you know, before and after
photos and things that people when that is their backstory.
So I feel like, obviously it didn't do you a
disservice because you still came out of the season. You know,
everyone like you said has been rooting for you throughout,

(36:30):
so it worked its way out, but I'm shocked that
they didn't kind of, you know, remind us of it
a little bit more because now hearing the way that
your season played out, and even kind of knowing like
those moments like that elimination where you really had to
grab the bull by the horns and obviously win it
for you guys, where THEO wasn't getting anything done. That
to me, I think just means so much more if

(36:50):
you know about your backstory and know about things like
that the one where he got you guys disqualified, that
would be even more frustrating knowing all this and things
like that.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
So you know, I'm.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Happy what my strength is, which is strength, and yeah,
I do a lot of strength training, and like that's
like a huge part of like my life now.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
And you know, just to point out as well, like my.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Wee loss journey is natural, and you know, we live
in this world of like surgery and a zempic, which
is absolutely fine. I do not judge anybody for doing
any of those things. But since so since I got
back from the challenge, I've been like back on my
ship because obviously I said before I went, I had
so much going on at home that I was just
it wasn't on my radar to be on it at

(37:33):
that time.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Right.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
So, since I've got back, and the only like not
I wouldn't even say it's trolling, but the only like
comments I've had is like, oh my god, Adrian looks scared,
but she's been on a zepic.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
I'm like, bitch, have you seen my stare master at
the minute.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
My stare master routine is four lots of forty minutes
on the stare Master and then plus a cardio session
once a week. So you tell me that that's but
yet CT is.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Going through his training. Don't see one of them commenting.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Here, Well, that's probably because no offense to CT. But
it doesn't necessarily look like Keithano Sempic. But but what
I'll say is the double edged sword sucks because people
like yourself who are not taking GLP ones are doing
it the natural way. You get accused of doing that,
and then you have to feel like, what you know,
this stinks. And then people who are doing it that way,

(38:21):
where that is to them the most natural way for
them to be able to do it, they have to
feel like I can't even tell anybody I'm doing this
because everyone's gonna think it's less than the people who
don't have to take it or have done it a
different way. So it just like and all of that
conjecture is in my opinion, based on people from Afar
who are just like they can't let anybody look good

(38:41):
at all.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
They're just like they have to just like people feel
bad about it.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
You want to do like you know, and I've had
I've got clients that I've done it, I've got I
know people, I know friends, I've done it, and it's like, well,
let them do their wrong thing, that's what they want
to do.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Let them do it.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, it's all you know, I think. I get so mad,
Like when when? Uh it was because now a few
years ago there's all these celebrities. One of the most
famous one is Lizo, right, so everyone would would get
on Lizzo for being, you know, for for pop star standards,
a bit overweight, and you'd have people talking about and
back then it was all the body positivity thing. It

(39:16):
was like, wells, she's happy in her own skin, so
let her live. And then you got all these assholes
who were like, well, that's wrong.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
You shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
We should call it like we see it, because then
she's never going to fix herself. Well, then she somehow does, right,
she's lost a ton of weight, and what does everybody say,
ozempic blah blah blah blah blah blah. And they can't
even let her have that either. So it's just I
don't know, I think I think the whole Uh. It's
one of those things where if you've ever been through
weight struggles, which like I said, clearly I have, it's
just like whatever can help you get on the right path, right,

(39:45):
whether it's you know, you need something to kick started
or whatever, you know, it's like you just got to
do it right, Whereas all the noise from the outside
makes it harder because it puts a stigma on all
of it where you you almost just want to abandon
all of it completely. You don't even want to be
accused of being on something like that because then it's like, well,
what's the point of losing the weight to people are
gonna make fun of me for having lost the weight?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Right? It's you know, but this.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Is what I like, This is what I just want
to be a reminder to everybody that do what the
fuck you want to do, because at the end of
the day, this is your life and if it's gonna
make anything that you're gonna do is gonna have a
positive impact on your life. Do it, whether it's surgery like, look,
I'm not a natural, I have filler room office, like, do.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
What you want to do? And do you care about
what other people think? Are they either ones paying your bills?

Speaker 1 (40:29):
No, let's go on, do you Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well, now, actually those companies will pay your bills, or
at least will some of them might be paying people,
but at least they're giving them the stuff for freaks.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I know it could be expensive. So you're seeing more.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
People be open about whether it's whether it's you know,
hair treatment or plastic surgery or in vis a line
or or ozempic or would have you glp ones blah
blah blah, because it helps them, you know, financially, either
pay for the treatment themselves or or or at least
they're getting it for free. So you see people being
more open about talking about it and whatnot. But if

(40:59):
it for that, sometimes you would just assume that everyone
who went through who looks great every day isn't having
any assistance or help whatsoever. And that's just flat out
lying to people, right, I mean we're all at least
putting a filter on something.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
Girls always ask me like, oh, what becusemeic work? If
you had dormo, it's like this, what was this treatment?

Speaker 5 (41:17):
And I'm like, I'm open.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I'm like, oh, like you know, I don't look at
that Joel, like this is allus.

Speaker 5 (41:23):
He's not my own hair.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
Like, I'm not going to sit here and be like, oh,
this is all from from my own buck like like
if my extension is own show, I don't care because
I know that it's an extension.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
If you don't know that it's nextension, then it's not
my problem. I don't have to look at it.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
All right.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
I've got about at least five more topics, and she's
probably got like ten minutes talum.

Speaker 8 (41:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
I talk so much. You can probably do a little
bit over.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
Okay, Okay, I want since we're like on this topic
and like I sort of got when you guys go
and look at her page if you haven't done it
yet and you see like her weight loss journey, I
mean it, it's fucking insane. Like when you started saying
I've lost two stones, I'm like a stone. What the
fuck is that? Like a whole stone? Like is that
how they really go? And look at what I'm saying.

(42:17):
She looked like she lost about two stones for real,
and I no offense from not no disrespect, but holy shit, congratulations.
And I think that people should know that you do
have this app, that you do have this business where
they can come to you for help along with their
weight loss journey. And I want you to at least
plug that right now before I get to my five
other challenge topic, so they know because it's incredible, and

(42:40):
that she's won four eliminations and gone to the final
on her first one, like the I.

Speaker 4 (42:47):
Have a Weight Loss on fitness app, which is more
like a lifestyle management app.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
So from some ding heros done like the Yo Yo Diets,
the Fat Diets.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
I started dieting at eleven years old, so I know
how it truly feels to be.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Trapped in a ball that you don't want to be in.
And that's why I created Angelique.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
It is a movement and a community of women who
have all been in that same struggle, and a court
who really understands how it feels to feel like that.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
I know that not every week is linear, like it's
not a linear process, and I truly understand that.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
So I now offer coach in over on my app
which is called Angelique, which you can find over on
my Instagram.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Boo, and this is correct, Yeah, boo, love that. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
I mean, look, it's interesting because you know, you often
see that you know, some people, you know, they lose
a like like for instance, I'll just call another challenger.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Out, So Cam Williams, who from the challenge.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
She just was saying, I think in a post because
I guess she was just getting some work done. She's
lost a lot of weight currently or recently. I think
she mentioned she's lost fifty pounds recently in the last
three months or something, and that she's lost it so quickly.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I believe she might have had some assistance, but that she's.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Lost it so quickly that now she's going to get
like her face tuned up to like match the amount
of like fai she'll weight, she's lost whatever, and she's
being very outspoken about it. And that's fifty pounds and
you said you lost one hundred pounds, so it's like
I mean you one hundred and twelve.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
And so it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Because I've been on this side of it too, where
when you're when you're up in weight, the last thing
you want to do is have anybody see any pictures
of you when you're when you're when you're heavier, But
when you have lost weight, it's it's the other way around,
where now seeing a picture of you today next to
one of those pictures of you one hundred and twelve
pounds ago is absolutely telling the right story and how
jarring it is of like you said, Derek, seeing two

(44:33):
completely different people although you see the same lovely lass
in there. You know, it's motivating to people because it
does say that, like, look how much you can do
over time. I heard someone say something yesterday that was
really interesting. I forget where I heard it, but somebody
was like, people overestimate what they can do in a month,
but underestimate what they can do in a year, or

(44:54):
like or by the same token, sometimes overestimate what they
can do in a year, but underestimate what they can
do in a decade. And think like that, and so
sometimes you forget that, like you know, it can be
hard maybe to get through those first three months or whatever,
but that if you stick with it and this and
that that over the course of a year, you know,
you really can change your life. So that is very
clear from your Instagram. If you check out Adrian's Instagram,

(45:16):
it is very inspiring. And what comes with it being
are those older photos. You know, it's like, you know,
you don't run from those over older photos because now
they are they are as good of an ad for
your app as anything.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
And also, like I did a real a few weeks
ago about like loose skin, like I truly believe because
I don't mind gradually.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
And it wasn't this orb and I lose.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
In one hundred pounds in like a year. That that's
why I don't like I do have loose skin. And
I sure people my imperfections online as well. I'm not
a perfect person, like I one hundred percent sure that,
but I also sure that like it is possible to change.
But like if I did it so drastically, I would
have so much more loose skin than what I do.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
Well, yeah, now.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
I'm remembering who was saying that I was listening to
Jelly Roll on the Joe Rogan Experience a Jelly role
has lost I think like three hundred pounds or something recently,
not recently, but over the course of the last couple
of years. And that's what he was saying, is that, like,
you know, you you overestimate what you can do in
a month, but you underestimate what you can do in
the year. He was like five hundred pounds and now
he's like, you know, two eight years, three hundred punds whatever. Anyway, Okay,

(46:21):
let's get to the challenge. So all right, you get
paired with THEO. But I don't know if you know this,
Adrian Derek feels like, in an alternate universe, Partners YouTube
may have been the champions of this season and all
THEO would have to for it is a baby.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Well, well, listen, I'll be honest with you. After watching
the last episode, obviously we wouldn't have made it up
the mountain. So you know, it's it's always you know,
watching it from from uh you know, from TV, from
your from your couch, it's always different, you know, perceiving
what it would have been like the log thing that

(46:58):
that we lost to you and THEO on would have
never in a million years thought that I would have
been that bad at that.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
You guys were. You guys were lockstep for.

Speaker 6 (47:10):
How bad and say if we and say if we
would have been partners, we would have fucking definitely looked
way worse than either one of us looked that day,
so because it would have been a complete clabboring and
it wouldn't have got into death. So yeah, but no before,
but at some point I wanted to have the conversation
with you before you actually picked your partner, because I

(47:30):
thought at the time that, you know what, we just
finished in second place on this swimming climbing thing. You
are more of a superstar than you even fucking know,
because the way you catch a football is like a man,
like she catches a football like a dude. Probably because
of your your your rugby background and the way you swam.

(47:51):
I was just like, that's insane. You're much stronger than
all the other girls because we've trained together with the
weights and stuff like that, so I could see that
you have a gas tank and you're strong, and I'm like,
fuck no, I'm not in the best shape of my life,
and I don't want to put that on her. But
I always thought that because of how we fell with
the mountain. How are swimming was? Where the point system was?

(48:14):
I always thought that maybe me and you would have
been a more well balanced team. And then I would
have said, it's still up to you which direction you
want to go. This is your game. But that's what
I wanted to tell you that I thought that we
can probably beat Sydney and Turbo in a swim, like
if it comes down to like a swim, Turbo can't
swim as well as you or me. And you know

(48:37):
I beat him up the mountain. Yes he beat me
down the mountain. But these are some of the things
I would have brought to your attention before you actually
made your pick.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
But now see, would if you had heard that pitch,
would you have reconsidered it?

Speaker 6 (48:49):
And I've won three times and i've and I have won.
I don't know fucking fourteen fifteen eliminations. I thirteen until.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Until TJ said to me, Adrian, you're trying to pick.
I did not know who I was picking, And that
is God's honest treeth.

Speaker 5 (49:07):
Even Olivia and Deal like you didn't tell us this,
And I was like it was a second thing.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
But my reasoning behind it was I felt like Derek
wasn't like on neither north side of the house, and
I felt like to that that just makes both us
such an easy direct target and I just so in
that moment, I was like, right, well, if I go Derek,

(49:36):
I just feel like we'll be the first pinged off.
And that did kind of come to light when it
came down to voating that one of the first people's
names were obviously the or not just because Uk as
well obviously doesn't help, but was Derek, and d from
from our side, it was like kind of like an easy,
easy one because Derek, people didn't really know where you stood.

Speaker 6 (50:00):
Well well, to be fair, the reason why I didn't
come after you harder is because I knew where you
stood in the whole Challenge House ecosystem. I was like,
all of these girls, their number one target is her,
Like it didn't I knew. I literally I had a

(50:21):
phone call with my wife and I said, it's gonna
come down to I'm gonna I'm gonna be teamed up
with either Adrian or d One of the roads is
going to be harder. I think the one is obviously
performing better and has has it is doing better, but

(50:44):
I think the road with her is going to be
more difficult because I knew where you stood in the house,
and it was it was it was almost like uh,
public enemy number one for those girls, right because you
had already been voting against them. They had their teams
up there and then and then I thought, I said
to myself, or I told my wife, the other side
of it is that she's got the other the other

(51:08):
person has so many more people that have her back
that at least I would be safer for a little
bit longer. And and so I think it didn't matter
whether you picked CT or me or THEO. I think
your road was always going to be what it was.

Speaker 9 (51:27):
Yeah, you know me there and easy straight away, like
the girls just and I like all the girls individually,
So I, you know, got along with most people in
the house.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
And that's not like I'm a friend of all as
a friend of none. It's not even like that.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
I'm just I'm just inquisitive about people's lives. I like
to get to know people. I ask a hundred questions.
I'm a yappa, like she shoot your mouth like that
is me, Like I am Yappa Yappa, And I just
love to get to know people. But obviously in that instance,
you have people who you gell with more naturally, and
that was for me. It was my cheater sisters, which

(52:05):
was me, Izzy and Tear, and we just jelled. But
then the girl said that we then forced them into
a friendship. You don't force people into a friendship, you know,
like that's your prerogative to be friends with them. Tier
was part of the upstairs, but she was still our
friend because that's just who you gel with more naturally.
And yeah, like they had different people to look after them,

(52:27):
but it became very apparent quite early on that they
wanted to ping obviously our girls off. Now, me, being
like a little bit naive at the very beginning, was thinking, oh, well,
it's best bets versus new threats. Maybe us new threats
can all come together and start pinging off the bets.
But obviously that soon became apparent that wasn't gonna be

(52:48):
the case, which is hence why I said mckel's name
at the very beginning. So I wasn't seeing a rookie name,
and then they were like a rookie is name, and
I was like, WHOA. I thought that we were going
to maybe have a bit more power we've got a
little bit spice, but no, we didn't have that walked
got walked all over.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Let me get so, was this your first time I
don't part of me for not knowing, but so the
other shows that you've done, the other show that you did, like, was.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
It all UK?

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Was this your first time dealing with whether it's just
people from the US or people from Turkey or wherever? Like,
was this your first time working on a show with
international relationships and whatnot as well?

Speaker 5 (53:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, but luckily my old job did make me kind
of I'm quite good at dealing with like I used
to work with Night sent Men, right, and obviously in
that line of work, you've got to be quite diplomatic.
So I am quite good at playing the middle ground
but also puting a point across while not being too offensive,

(53:44):
but also knowing that I am stern and not cross me.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, because this was an interesting like this would have
been a tough first season for anybody, but the fact that,
like you said, it's called ve's and new threats, But
it's not as simple as it's the vets versus the
new threats, right, It's all also not as simple as
who your partner is one week, isn't your partner the
next week, then that all of a sudden is but
your partner is one of the vets. Then there's of course,
like I don't know what the six of you guys

(54:10):
from the UK, but like, so there's a good chunk
of you to where people could target you because of it,
but also not so much of you that it's like
a huge amount of numbers. So that had to be interesting.
I just like would love to know how it felt
just sort of be indirectly targeted for your your britishness, Like, like,
was that weird?

Speaker 5 (54:28):
Very strange?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
And I didn't really think that that was gonna Again,
I'm quite naive in the sense of I like.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Like I love to get to know everybody. So I
was just mingling around the house.

Speaker 4 (54:38):
And I knew the only game that I could play
from the beginning, which is something I'm good at and
back myself on, is my social game. So I knew
going in there, I'm just gonna play the social game
and see what the hell happens, because at this point
I don't really know how how can I play a
game that I've never played before. You can watch it
all you like, but for example, when I used to

(54:58):
do makeup. If I haunted you scot a book on
how to do makeup and then say come do my makeup.

Speaker 5 (55:04):
You're still highly likely you're not going to have a clue.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
You can't really understand how to play a game until
you've played it, especially not one that changes every season.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Well, there you go. That's the other thing. This show,
the challenge does not even reward you for having watched.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Let's say the last season with a completely different format
and sixteen completely different people. So honestly, the research you
could have done, what have only told you or taught
you so much? Let me ask you, did you know
any of the like? So going into the show, obviously
you knew a little about the show, but like you said,
there's a little bit of UK crossover. Did you just
from whether it's social circles or having watched their shows?

(55:39):
Like did you know theo Rogan?

Speaker 6 (55:41):
Is he tay?

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Anybody?

Speaker 6 (55:42):
Let's get into this.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
Let's get into this because this also has become like
a topic of and it was brought up at the
reunion as well. But you know, everybody keeps talking between
everybody before the show, and it never used to.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Work like that.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
And and then it was THEO and adriat No. We
have the same management, so we knew that each other
were going on the show. So all I asked was
did he know anybody else that was going on?

Speaker 4 (56:09):
And also I asked, what the hell do I pack?
Because I'm an overpacker as it is, how much do
I need to pack? Because the list that they gave
me was like three going out outfits?

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Could you imagine if I had only packed three going
out outfits and a breakdown? Okay, so that was all
it was.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
But yet then the and bananas have had a four
born meet ups and coffees and.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
Gym dates and all sorts. But yet me and you
can't have the same.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
The one thing I will say is the house felt
very much. It's one reel for you and a different
reel for us. And when it came to us, we
couldn't say our piece on it because you can only.

Speaker 5 (56:45):
Do right and we can only do wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
And who's the U in that?

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
The veterans like the Johnny's.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
Upstairs lines and the downstairs like very much like if
we said, well hang on, but that's what you guys do, No, no, no,
but you angels do that? What what like, listen to
what you're saying, Like, you can't sit there and preach
to the choir when you are also doing it.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
So go ahead, what's what's an example?

Speaker 6 (57:14):
What's an example? We'll give us an example.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
So exactly that like saying that we all made alliances
before going on to the show, right, all had the
same management and yet Derek Dean Bananas had, you know,
exchange messages she'd talked about going on the show.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
They don't built an actual alliance. I'll ask thee what
the puck that was it?

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Well, they're always just trying to find especially from you guys,
who are you know, at a thin air For a
lot of these people, they're just trying to find a reason, right,
or they're just trying to pin you with something, you know,
and that's probably Oh, it's the uk of it all.
We got to get them out or they're going to
work together. By the way, Tay is Australia, right, she's not. Yeah, right,
So I don't want I don't want to lump her in,
but that's probably what they were doing too.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
They were like, she sounds funny too, throw her in
with the rest of them, yea yeah, so so.

Speaker 6 (58:04):
We're you know, a few people that we were not UK.
There's just a UK Alliance, which eventually was kind of
like the Downstairs Alliance, except for like Lee roy uh
in Sydney, who's just a you know, like a mole
right until she was like, I can't stop being a
fucking mole. I gotta get out of here. I can't
do this anymore.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
You know that.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
That's what it was. And it was like night and day.
It was like, oh, it's us against you, you know,
until you know, the midway point, people had switch sides
and YadA, YadA, YadA. Let's talk about some of the
bigger names right that that are in the the Challenge
Universe were in this game, like c t Uh, Turbo,

(58:44):
Johnny Bananas. Let me just start off with Turbo really quick,
because he's a very I guess, unlikable character to most
people on on and off the show. It seems like
and I mean I did fine with him, I'll be honest,
like I me and him were, I'm I'm I. But
now you have but someone like you who was uh,

(59:05):
you know, it was between you and Sydney on who
was going to get Turbo as their partner. I think
you two you were also very much like if I
can get Turbo and beat if I can beat Sydney
and the Point System, I'm going to take Turbo. After
watching how he performed, how their relationship continued, where his
alliance fell obviously, how him and THEO had their falling out.

(59:27):
Do you would you have still wanted, uh, you know,
Turbo as your partner. What were your final thoughts on
him and everything that kind of transpired here at the end.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Derek, I was never gonna be Sydney. Let's be honest, Let's.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
I just love to mess around with.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
It because I knew that she's not as mentally strong
as what she portrays out to be in the sense
of like I'd heard her have phone calls to a
dad and she was upset, and I knew that the
house was getting to a right, so I knew that
I could mentally play with her a little bit, you know, like, say,
the one good thing about being dragged up as a
kid is that you are a little bit mentally stronger
than somebody who has been like had a silver spoon, Right,

(01:00:06):
So if I could play a little bit of maybe
I will stake a claim maybe I won't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Maybe I'll take a table, maybe I won't, you know,
but I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Was never gonna be anyways, And I, like I said,
I'm a big enough and growing enough.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
To admit that. Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
And however, now, how I haven't seen one how religious
their relationship was was fucking weird?

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
See one, how Relif their relationship was was fucking weird,
I would never have put with that for one at all.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
And two I personally now see Table as an actor
in my opinion, just with all the props and the
theatricals that come with his performance on the show.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
Is great. I'm not gonna take it away from me.
Is still great, is very fit, is a great competitor.
But I do think he's an actor.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah, real quick, Let's we get this messy question, and
this is from Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Mary says all game and alliances aside, who is the
worst roommate this season and why, whether it's messy, annoying, etc.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
The worst room there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
In the sense of messiness, Probably me and is he
probably quite messy, so probably me ander Z probably the
worst roommates And then annoyance wise, umm probably sometimes still
the beginning only because at the beginning until halfway until

(01:01:53):
he had to lock in. He loved a drink, so
and obviously your lights can't go off until, like you've
got a minimum of people in your room.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
I feel like I feel like, actually, before like the
lock in, I thought that you really like almost despised theel.
I feel like there was a few girls that were
just like, absolutely not, we are not picking him. There
is no way we are going to get teamed up
with him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 6 (01:02:18):
It was not like that the thought at that point.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
If I'm being brutally honest, I feel like the girls
felt like that about like across the board, because that's
just me being honest. Like I felt like there wasn't
really even like like I said, turble, Yeah, it was great,
but I felt like everybody else had hyped him up
that much to make him look even better.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
Than what he was, if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Like I felt like everyone's oh yeah, turbles, these turbles
that don't approach him, like he was kind of like
put on a pedestal.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
And actually, now, in hindsight, is like, you know, the
women on the show, we are we are strong.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Like we are strong independent women, and you know, I
think that to me, was just out of probably wor
to partner with the women more than I would have
the men.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
I mean, to be fair, like he was still like
the most well rounded guy, Like he was still the
most well rounded vet vet you know. Yeah, even like
I mean, I mean the fact that he finished in
second place, still next to Jeremie. I mean, it's still
it makes sense, you know, Like yeah about that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
You know, I would rather have got along with my
partner than not to be honest, like, at the end
of the day, like, I know, this is about money.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
This is going to be quite controversial.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Should I say this, I would say it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Okay, right, Okay, So I'm gonna say basically my idea
of going on to the challenge. Obviously, you don't know
whether you're ever going to get that phone call back, right, So, yes,
you compete for money, but one I'm going in there
knowing that I've already made myself proud in this star
life and I live a nice life, you know, that's
my ultimate aim. So going on there to compete is amazing,

(01:03:57):
And going on there, I want to have fun and
I want to be able to joint experience where physically possible,
because it is draining. It is mostly draining the anxiety
that comes with it, the nightmares. You dream about the
Challenge House every night even though you're in it. So
my ultimate goal was like, yes, I want to make
it to the final. I want to run the final
and obviously win the money, but also along this way,
I want to enjoy the experience. And I would much

(01:04:18):
rather have enjoyed the experience and being you know, in
the end of it was just me, Olivia and Theo
in a room and I was basically like their firstborn,
and so I would have rather felt like that than
be on edge and having to cry myself to sleep
because of how terrible was with Sydney, than win any money.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Well, I think that answers my last question, which was
going to be did you ever think of staking a
claim for whether it was maybe Turbo or maybe a
much nicer and easy to deal with Jeremi or someone
like that. It felt like none of you guys seriously
contemplated it, but our first time asking you, did it
go through your head at all or no?

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
So I think what a lot of people didn't realize
about throughout the season, the only time we could actually
stake a claim and I will same stripe, So.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
For me to claim on a new I mean during
the final.

Speaker 5 (01:05:01):
Yeah, this for oute the whole season. And I was like,
the only time we could actually stay was.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
In the final, and we're coming off that because because
I'm watching that moment where him making you do the swim,
and I'm thinking, as soon as they say staying claim,
if I'm you, I'm I'm jumping ship.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
But I was already mentally clocking out.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
To be fair, I was already like so when when
I had to do that swim, I said, I literally
turned around to him and said.

Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
Fine, we'll call it quits. No problem to me, Well
let's leave now, let's just go, And he was like fine.
Like neither of us were like really fighting for it,
if that sense.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
So you're like at that point, you're like, I don't
want to drag anybody else down, but THEO is really
I mean no, But I just I felt like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
One, I was going to ride it out with him anyways,
but two, I was just be honest, living in this
completely different overhead space like trying to cut like think
about everything that we're doing at that moment and everything
that we've done that day, like that final I don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
I feel like TV showed how hard it really was,
Like that first day was hell, and I mean hell, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
That route that we had to run around was what
four times in total, and even the way up to
get to it help and then when we were running
it awful, And I just feel like it didn't show
how much energy we actually, like energy expended to.

Speaker 5 (01:06:25):
Were putting out there.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
And the fact that we were running off a banana
and a packet of nuts, like I'm a big batty girl.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
I like my food and I need food to function,
and the.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Fact that we run off that then on the first day,
I give for your half my banana and my packet
of nuts, and you're just running off empty. Like at
that point, I'm just on cuckoo and thinking, I can't
believe I'm doing this.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
What have you Have you talked? Have you talked to
anyone about whether or not they what what, whether or
not they wanted to stake a claim in that moment
or not? Like, have you guys had the conversation of like, hey,
why didn't anyone did anyone think about it? Was there
any like, oh maybe did you guys? What were you thinking?

(01:07:09):
Were you thinking? Like oh, I have to do like
an elimination and it may screw me. Did you think
I did anyone anyone?

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
I don't think anybody thought they were going to offer it,
to be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
And then afterwards, like once the final the finished, we
were all just thankful to be alive.

Speaker 5 (01:07:26):
Right is that storm that was coming in. We weren't
thinking about the stake and claim, we weren't thinking about TJ.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
We weren't think about anything else but apart from thank
god we are alive because that storm.

Speaker 5 (01:07:36):
And like say, I was twenty pounds heavier do in that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Final than what I am now, and I was still
getting blown around like it was hellish, Like my lips
were going blue, like literally I was just my body
felt like it was shutting down.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Just Scott, No, I well, I mean, my last question
here is just about your potential challenge future as we
know you know, look, you start out on a season
with sixteen rookies. We would be shocked if all sixteen
of you got a call for season forty two, forty three,
or forty four. But hypothetically if that call came, did
you enjoy your experience to the point where we might

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see you on a challenge again in the future.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
I I mean, so I said this in my final interview, right,
they said, if the challenge called, what would you say?

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
I said, I've already answered the phone call.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
Sorry here, But you know, if that happens, then I
will be amazing, like grateful, because I have been working
my boot off since I got back. I've been training,
and so yeah, it'd be nice to see what damages
I could do going back. And obviously, once you've played
it before, you kind of have a better insight on

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you know, going in, like say, every every season is different,
but also you kind of figure out how, like can
I even people can be and you know, can I
be caniving back? And it doesn't you think about the
challenge a lot once you've done it. I've only done
one season. I do feel like it lives rope free
in my head.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Not joining bananas, but the challenge, well, other than the training,
which obviously you're going to be, like you said, you've
already stepped up and everything like that, anything else you
are going to take from your season one potentially into
a two three and beyond, whether it's strategy, whether it's
you know, ask forgiveness not permission, whether it's stay away
from these people, whether it's hey, it is okay to

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do a little pregaming Johnny Bananas style, any other sort
of things that you've learned along the way that you
think will help you in the seasons and beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
No, I'd say probably all of the above, to be honest, Scott,
all of the above I've been giving about you all
but analyzed, especially while you're in there, and then obviously
when you come home, and then watching it back, it's
like it.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Takes over your whole year, right, and like obviously now
watching it back, you do like a lot of things differently.
The only thing I've said that is, if production do
call the best call with some fit men and therest
be some nice single men on this season, if this happens, all.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Right, well there we go. You heard it, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
And we're not talking about hinge Ecklers, by the way,
so we're talking legit single men, not you Rogan.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
We're talking legitimately.

Speaker 6 (01:10:08):
So so we're not talking about Rogan. We're not talking
about Leo, we're not talking about Gabe, we're not talking
about will Right.

Speaker 8 (01:10:15):
You want new, you want new, you want new, new.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Threns new like old I've been to old a man's time.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
All right, Well, I was gonna speak, I was gonna
ask about older men, speaking of of CT and and
Johnny before we left any final thoughts on on uh,
you know, the love or hate for C T or Johnny.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Believe that's bad. Bobby and Big and Beefy is is
what they call themselves.

Speaker 5 (01:10:49):
So and C called ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
I message to Nuke Dan, I was like, God, the chips,
the chips is anymore money?

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Like you know, we have been grinding. But I love
CT like I have a lot of time for CT.

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
I think he's incredible as not just a competitor, but
also as a person to speak to on a normal level.

Speaker 5 (01:11:13):
Me and he had like conversations like off camera and obviously.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
We related a lot because of obviously our body image
at that time as well, and we had like conversations
about that. So yeah, like means he bonded really really well.
And then one thing I would say about Johnny is
that again I have conversations with Johnny like off camera,
and he is very much like him as Banana's like

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like eye roll, but him as Johnny, like he's all right,
like he's he sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Like that's the shirt right there, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Think that you could definitely tell which we're only talking
to depend on where the cameras were.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
Yeah, well he's a bit of a Hingehckler himself. All right, everybody,
thanks Hopefully this is the first of many interviews with you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
We can talk forever and hopefully future seasons of you
don't go nuclear in the reality TV and we can
keep the nuclear work at the power plant for you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
But thanks so much for joining us one more time.

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I know you got another call, so we appreciate you
so much.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
So thanks so much, guys, talking to you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
Thank you Adrian.

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