November 26, 2025 • 26 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
What's up, everybody? Scott Yeager here with another Challenge Many
episode breakdown. Here to break down part one of the
two part final of The Challenge season forty one, Vets
and New Threats. Boy, has this been a great season? Boy?
Is this a big final? So we decided to go big.
That's right. You might notice we don't have our usual
stream yard interface. Derek and I are here sitting next
to each other because we had to break this thing
(00:34):
down live and in person. We're gonna talk about it
with you. Guys. You might be enjoying this in audio
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That's where you get full and gorgeous video of all
of our podcasts and interviews, including this one. But you
did not come for me, You came for d So
joining me as always to break down season forty one.
He started this season, he got two thirds of the
(00:55):
way through this season, and man, boy, do I have
a feeling he wishes he was taking part in this
final that we're breaking down for you here today. You
didn't come for me, You came for Deed, Mister Derek
Kazinski what's that, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, it pains me not to be in this final,
and it pains me to see Adrian in pain during
this final, because it really feels like at some point
we may have been the uh, the one that they missed,
(01:28):
the one that we missed. There was a conversation that
me and her didn't get to have. We still haven't.
The union's have been shot. We haven't gotten her on
the podcast, And for about three days there, I thought
to myself, Fuck, if we only had that conversation, maybe
things would be different. But then again, you know what,
(01:49):
I have helped their win four eliminations. I don't know,
you know, but at the end of this thing, the
moral of the story is can you get your ass
up in down mountains? And can you swim a little bit? Now,
it's not all that right. We saw the uh, the
kayaking through the rough waters.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't know if I'd be good at that. How
do you practice that? Like it's like it's it's like
we've seen you on a canoe.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Im shitty at canoes. But then again, there's still a
fourth place right now.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Nonetheless, what is this conversation you get You're saying you
guys were almost partners.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm saying it could have been me and her as
partners and before uh you right, rights, So I still
haven't had this conversation, but what I would have said
to her was that I think that we could win
this thing. I think where I think we can get
(02:42):
up and down the mountains better than maybe not maybe
not Turbo and Sydney, maybe not Olivia and and and
uh hear me, but maybe if things go gets shaken
up a little bit, as you can see in two,
we may have some people switching, switching teams, then maybe
(03:04):
we could win this thing. I would have made a
case to say that we could win this.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, Devil's advocate would say that, I mean, you have
to get to the final first, right, So let's say
that let's say it ends up being you and Adrian
and THEO and D. And let's say you guys wind
up in that same elimination where uh, THEO whooped your
ass and D whooped her ass. Uh, it probably probably
would have went the same way because we would have
ended a lot sooner.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, very true, very true, virtue and uh, and
we would have probably been in elimination right away too,
because I think that I do think that Adrian was
the X factor as far as like who are we
you know, who are people going to put in?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I think not.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
However it went down, whether it was you know, THEO
and Adrian or me and Adrian as partners, like her
fate was going to be going to elimination and see
how well her and her partner do, and and and
and to your case, I would have I would have
probably maybe not have done as well as THEO, and
(04:03):
maybe our fate would have been going home sooner than
later as well.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Do you think though, for instance, because I always thought
it was the collection of THEO and Olivia and having
all these Brits on their side, and obviously Adrian being
one of them. Whereas if she's your partner, are you
able maybe to pivot a little bit and instead of
falling in line and going their D route, maybe you
try to play into some of your OG alliances. Maybe
you're tugging at you know, Anissa a little bit, or
(04:29):
Nannie or Aviv or whatever. Maybe you could have saved
you guys from that fate. Or do you think it
was Adrian who was the target of Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Think that all of those women upstairs had put a
target on her because she was still part of that
UK alliance that they couldn't get to quite yet. Because
they were able to get to Tay, they were able
to get to Izzy, and then Adrian was just the
next one up. And so yeah, I mean, regardless, I
(04:58):
think that whoever ended up with Adrian would have had
the tougher road, But you just have to give credit
to how tough she is. And you know, just seeing
her at the end of this episode, like you know,
almost in tears because the dude wouldn't go in the water,
and look, not everyone's made for really fucking cold water.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Not everyone's made for swimming.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not everyone's made for the hike in the climb. And
it's really what this this final is starting to look
like is go till you crack, go till something falls off,
go till you break, go till you quit, because like,
in some ways, like we're already seeing so many people,
you know, complaining turbos, like, ah, my legs, I'm not
(05:41):
thirty years old anymore. When I won that final and
wore the World's won, you know, I'm thirty seven years old,
and it's just and he's still good, he's still really good.
But you see Sidney just like absolutely, you know, like
laughing at this stuff. I mean, you see Sidney versus
Yearmi on the stair climber. And I know we're not
an MVP and LVP quite yet, and we will get there,
(06:05):
but I'm gonna I'm gonna say it right now. We
don't need to fill her head up with any more.
She's good at anything. But I think when someone calls her, uh,
the cross country runner from Beverly Hills, like what, I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What a That's what he used to call me, by the.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Way, you know, I mean, could you imagine being a
cross country runner from Beverly Hills, h but and Long Island,
New York. I think she's also from kind of.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But here's the one thing I'll say about you. I
don't think anyone would have ever seen you do. And granted,
I mean, look, there's few people I would see would
would do what THEO did. I mean, probably one of
the worst looks we've ever seen of him, just like
flat out like no, I'm I'm not going in the water,
and in front of his you know girlfriend, and you
(06:55):
know obviously all the well, I guess Sidney did I
guess what throws it off. Is Sidney did it for
two so he looked at it as, oh, the rookies
have to earn their stripes. But like, is chivalry completely dead?
I thought British people invented chivalry like that was I mean,
I think I like, let's say, hypothetically you win this
thing next week, like people are gonna remember you not
wanting to take a bath like that, Like I don't know,
I'd be like in a wet suit too. Really that's
(07:19):
the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, well, to be fair, look and to all those
people that have an experience like extremely cold water, like
it's easier to you know, sit there as armchair quarterback.
Like these people are literally coming like not only have
they been freezing already by the stair climbers, but they
just got a helicopter ride. And once they get off
the helicopter ride, they have the they have the propeller
(07:42):
of a helicopter fucking pushing them into the cold water.
Like that's what they're experiencing. Like the hell the propellers
aren't stopping, like they're literally propelling them into freezing cold water.
And I mean, you gotta give you know a again,
Sidney the credit for being like, Okay, I'll do it,
(08:04):
not whine about it, and just kind of like sit
there and like kind of is she is kind of
carrying turbo and you got to give her a credit for,
you know, beating Jearimie on the stair climber, like cause
that could have changed things right there.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We wonder though, I mean, like, for instance, this is
why I always complained about finals. Do we really know
right now we just watched a ninety minute episode, sixty
minutes of content. Do we really have a gauge of
how far along anyone is? I mean, obviously the cliffhanger
is we could still have a stake of claim here
they're sitting by a campfire. I mean, I will say,
you know, if I'm gonna nitpick here, we don't really
(08:40):
know who's drastically ahead, if anybody. We don't know whether
THEO taking so long to decide to not go in
Adrian having to do it, is that potentially going to
cost them the final? More than likely none of this
will cost anybody anything, because we know that these are
pretty backloaded contests. They always kind of want everybody to
be in on it. And honestly, now that we have
this cliffhanger. We don't even get the juice of somebody
(09:01):
staking a claim. We spent half the episode last week
talking about the different scenarios. You watch this episode and
you go, wow, you know, does Sidney even more so
want not to have Turbot for the back half of this.
You look at Juramy, He's flat out said, I love Sydney,
but I hate Turbo. Does he want to swoop in
and savor in the ninth inning? We don't even get that.
So you know, I'm a little bit unfulfilled. I'll be honest.
(09:24):
I wish you know, I feel like, you know, it's
Thanksgiving week here. I feel like I got like a
hot pocket filled with cranberry sauce and sweet potatoes. But
I need a little bit more meat on the bone.
Mister Lavin here, If I'm gonna guess, if I'm gonna guess,
then this is pessimist in me. I don't know. I
really don't know. This is me guessing. I'm gonna guess
that nobody does take a claim, because if they did,
(09:45):
I think they would have ended on that. And then
the suspense is, how does the fallout change the fact
that we ended on the cliffhanger that we already got
the teas of tells me that I don't know that
we're getting a steak to claim next week. So I
feel like I'm and set up to be disappointed in
that regard because I really wanted to see one of these. Well, well,
we don't know what we don't know. I'm just I'm
(10:06):
literally just guessing based on by putting my TV producer
hat on, and I'm going, if you have something good
and juicy, like a Jeremy taking I mean, we get
turbos saying flat out if you think my puttner, I
will crush you whatever he says. Yeah, Like, honestly, if
you have that moment, then you cut it off and
then we have to tune in next week to see
if he crushes him. That's the cliffhanger. If we don't
(10:27):
have him taking the claim, That's why this the cliffhanger
is is he gonna do it? Is THEO gonna go
with Olivia? Honestly after that? Does Adrian want somebody else?
After THEO? Just you know, basically made I mean, because
here's the other thing about that. Look obviously like we
keep going to you know, Sydney did it for her team,
but man for THEO to see having Jeremy just did
that for his girlfriend and he won't do it for
(10:49):
his partner. Like I feel like there would have been
a little bit of pride in there, just to kind
of show Olivia that I'm doing it essentially, yes for
my partner, but also for you. So not a great
look for THEO, even for a partner that he's had
a great relationship with all seasons. So every team is
sort of on the rocks here. It would be awesome
if one of them took a claim, just because as
a viewer it'd be exciting. But I'm starting to feel
(11:10):
like we're not getting it. Going into this week, I
was like certain we were gonna get it. We were
gonna get probably Jeremie taking Sydney or vice versa, And
now I'm thinking, for whatever reason, we don't because I
feel like that's what they would have ended on.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So, I mean, let's talk about the juiciest potential swaps, right,
Juicy's potential stakes, because like, you got a guy like
Cedric who has the ankle breaker, right, Mikayla who with
(11:45):
the with the three times sprained ankle in this final,
even saying maybe it's in his best interest to go
because maybe she is feeling like I can't win this.
But let's be honest, like not, you don't know what
is next in the final. You don't know if it's
like eating or more puzzles or more swimming or more
(12:07):
kayaking or more biking, which may be some stuff that
like she can do, right, So you can never like
one say, all right, we're out of this game, right.
So but if you're Cedric, you start thinking about like
how close am I really with this person?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And uh? And if you're Sydney, you're like.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Is Turbo still the best guy option in this game?
And if you're Jeremy and you go, man, we both
just lost to Sydney and Turbo and Cedric in the
StairMaster stair climber thing, does Jeremy jump shit? So I think, yeah,
(12:50):
I think the juiciest thing to see right now is like,
does do your We've already seen Jeremy make the big
move to get rid of of Eve take Olivia. Now
he can get rid of Olivia. We also don't know
and take Sydney.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
There's got to be some steaks, right, because obviously it's
steak acclaim, But there's also there's got to be a risk,
There's got to be some sort of a trade off,
because for instance, it's not like you can just grab
somebody and then they you know, are they just about
do they have to take it right? Do they have
to say yes? Or do you have to then beat
someone in an elimination or some sort of erace or something?
And then what are the what are the results of
(13:26):
losing that? Because all season it's been you go into elimination?
Are we going to see an elimination here? I wouldn't
be so surprised if we did. But if all four
teams can go, hey, all four of us can fight
this thing out, if nobody's steaks, I feel like that
might be what happens here. And and I and I
like the michaela stuff three noble of her to say,
you know, oh, maybe he should do what's best for him,
(13:48):
but the fact after the fact. But is there on
the other end of it, a female counterpart who feels
like that is best for them? It would need to
be that Sidney prefers him to Turbot, Olivia prefer him
to Jeremy, or Adrian prefers him to theo which maybe
coming out of the water freezing cold, maybe she does.
But again, so the circumstances play a part in it.
(14:09):
I feel like going into a lot of finals, I
what I've noticed, especially in re seasons, everybody's kind of
hunky dory. There's sort of trauma bonding and being in finals.
You don't see a lot of backstabbery in finals. In fact,
you see the opposite. You see the Here take thirty
eight grand from from Devin and Tory for everybody. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, when you're like, I mean, whenever you're like trauma bonding,
I guess is a is A is a nice way
to put it. I don't know if it's like like
a cancelable offense, Like, I don't know if it's gonna
like make people think about fucked up shit.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's triggering to say trauma bonding now maybe to remind
people of their traumas. Yeah, I guess. I guess if
you really have trauma bonded with people over serious traumas,
you would be why you'd be offended by two guys
on a couch saying trauma bonding on a mountain. But
all these people are being starved these people are honestly
being drowned and starved. You're already freezing. Jump in the
water and go get that fucking key. There's different. Oh
(15:00):
you're cold. I think it applies you're dress in that water.
I'll fucking show you cold.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And if you don't want to jump in that water,
get the fuck off of this mountain.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Quit big. I think we're seeing Wait a minute, we're
on different shows.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think that's Special Forces.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
TG doesn't do that anymore, right, Yeah, But I will
say though here there's another element to it. Just I
feel like something about the campfire, the overnight. It feels
very like, you know, summer campy, whether it's trauma or whatever,
you're bonding. You feel like, oh, we're on an excursion,
Like there's something about being in a final that again,
other than the people like Johnny Bananas who very easily
(15:33):
took money from his very own partner, let alone everyone else,
and unlike obviously Ashley Mitchell does it to Hunter, it
does feel like people are pretty copasetic. And again you
hear people talking about maybe making moves for other people.
Oh you know, oh is this better for Cedric? Should
I do this for Sydney? You know, but you don't
really see the greed. You don't really see that I
(15:53):
want to get a better partner for me. We haven't
heard that really from anybody, And I feel like that's
probably the only way you were gonna get this because
unless people are able to have little side conversations here,
I don't really know that it's set up for a
lot of strategizing unless everyone's going to go and do
the math and say, would you be better with you?
Would you be better with you? And if it comes
with the risk of if someone does that, there's gonna
(16:14):
be a race, or there's gonna be a poll wrestler
this whatever, and the loser teams out. Maybe everyone goes,
maybe we just try this the four of us.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, no, Yeah, It's like because I mean, you're you're
he's gonna go, does anyone want to stake a claim?
And everyone's going to be looking at each other like.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Fuck, what next? I just can't tell us. We're I'm
telling you what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We're spitting this out, and we're saying, hey, TJ, what
do we have to do to stake a claim?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, like, what do we have to do?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What's next? And they're gonna say, he's gonna say, I'm
not telling you it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But give us that. But here's what I'll say this.
Wan'll say it's just as a viewer, and you know
everyone's talking about O season forty two. What can the
show do better? You know what's going to get us engaged?
Don't do the double teas. Okay, if you tease something
in the preview for today's episode, so episode eighteen, final,
Part one, the teaser for this episode was the guess
(17:04):
what someone gets to stake a claim? Then then we
end this on the cliffhanger of this that we already
got that bit of information, we need something new. I
guess if you wanted to nipick, you could say that
the added tidbit is we get that you can take anybody.
We had theorized that last week. That was the only
way for this to make sense. But like to me,
don't do the double teas, don't tease something and then
have me watch ninety more minutes and then we end
(17:24):
on that cliffhanger. You got to give me more. So
you know I love two part finals. I love the
word extending the season now here, but you know I
wanted a little more from this, especially since I'll be honest,
other than THEO in the water and other than obviously
Turbo continuing to just mansplain everything, even in a language
he doesn't know. That's another word. Yeah, not let me
(17:45):
using that one. No, I remember when man's plain was
was my wife uses it on me every day?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Do you know man spread this is it? I'm doing it? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Man's plain was brought to my attention during a time
time when I believe a guest that we had on
multiple times decided to say I quit Challenge Mania forever
because someone was mansplaining and we was gonna leave it
at that. But that's what I found out about Man's
(18:17):
Thank you Ashley Mitchell?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Was it? Ashley Mitchell? Was it? Wait? Was that really?
That's why should quit? For the first time, we man
explained her. You Man's plain? Oh? On Twitter about the
Oh yeah, that's what it was. He so, but there
wasn't on the podcast. That was a very unfortunate Twitter
debate we got into.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That was a that was a big take back.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Twenty twenty were dark times. But what I'll say is
for those of you guys who don't know what man's
plaining is, just in case you didn't live through the
twenty remind we were just tacking man. No, we were
putting the word the prefixed man on any word. And
if a man does it, it's man doing that, right.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm watching the show Special Forces on I think it's NBC,
And ironically my likes it too, because normally she's watching
like the Kardashians or Housewives or something like that. So
the fact that she's like, oh, yeah, let's watch these
like celebrities go through this, you know, special Forces training
in a matter of like ten days. The show is
(19:15):
like ten days long, and they do ship day and night.
And the celebrities like like Sean Johnson, a former Olympian.
She's there with her husband who's a former football player,
NFL player, Randall Cobb, Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So they really got the all stars guy.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
The guy, the guy, the guy that has like had
like three wives and has like sixty kids.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I forget his fucking name. Oh, Antonio Cramarti.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Uh No, he's not a football player.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
He's just he's just a guy. He's just just a man.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He's just a man that has man spreading head man
spreading man everywhere, has problems with some of his children.
From my understanding from watching the show, he's got some man.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Pro yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I only has one wife, and he's on this
show and he's like tracking up this hill and he's like, hey,
Randall Cobb, you just got to truck up this thing
like a billy goat.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I'm just like, oh, that is different, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So he's like fifty seven years old and he's like
crushing and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Sometimes it's necessary.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Let me tell you how these guys man explained to
these celebrities. They're like, oh, you're trying to get up
this hill. Get the fuck up there. You're trying to quit.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, these are special force. You can't quit.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You can't quit quit being a fucking pussy. Now they're
not saying that, but kind of you know, like you know,
and I thought that this is like something that was
like not allowed on television anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know what I mean. J was harsh back then.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean he was probably getting he was probably getting
destroyed for saying, oh, you quit, I hate quitters.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
They're like, you can't say I hate quitters anymore. That's
not nice. No, we're back, we're we're quitters. Quitting is
now quitting is now not allowed and explaining his back.
But listen, that's right. And we we have THEO Best
Man's Plains, and we do have THEO. Uh, well, would
you say, Joe ass in that water, Adrian? I wouldn't
(21:11):
say that. I would say what it is like, you
get in that water? Yeah? And THEO was like, no,
shut up.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, Adrian go.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Turbo's like, Adrian, you do not go.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, you do not go in the Water's like, wait,
you made Sydney go in the water, so you do
not go, Adrian.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
This is men job. There was a really good shot
of THEO and in the background it's it's Turbo in
the background, and Turbo just gives THEO look like the
lake is over there, brother, Like he gives him a look.
He doesn't say it. He just literally goes, you have to,
(21:56):
you have to. And again, what's funny is what's funny
you can my legs. Turbo is Man's good. Turbo is
man plating during when they're getting these checkpoints and he's
trying to tell her and he and again it's funny
that that you know he's admitted to her. I don't
even know what some of these words are. What's a witch,
what's a deer? Blah blah blah. And there's a priest,
which that's a witch.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, she goes, no, that's a priest.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah. So so he's obviously, and and it ends up
impacting them and their game obviously, and you know, she
gives a couple Jim looks to the camera office style
of like I'm just still dealing with this. But with
THEO it's more like, I mean, whatever the opposite of
because because to me, the man's plaining or that would
have been the like no, no, no, no, I'm gonna do this.
I'll do this better than no. They're like, no, you
(22:37):
do this, I'm too cold. Like I mean, that was
like I don't know what the word is for that,
but that was like man man shaming or man man
shameful or man I don't know, man skipping. I don't know,
man skipping, man skipping, man skipping, man skipping. That was good.
I'll sometimes do that where I'm like, I'm like we
my wife and I this is little weird tangent, but
my my sometimes when one of my kids will h
(22:59):
will poopy in the un and I just want to
throw it out, and my wife will go, no, we
are cleaning that, and I go, I just want to
throw it out, and she goes, fine, then i'll do it,
and I'll go no, I don't want you to have
to do it. She goes, then you do it, and
I go, well, I'm not doing it. I'm going to
throw it out, and we get the same way. It's like,
I'm not gonna do it, but I don't want you
to do it. Man skipping. Yeah, man skipping, I don't
want to do it, but don't make it seem like
I made you do it, because I'm willing for both
of us to throw it out, and I'm willing to
throw it out. So he was willing for both of
(23:21):
them to, like what, I don't even think they needed
to get the key whatever. He's like, He's like, oh,
col right now, Okay, Olivia is still good. She's got this.
But so he was man skipping there.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, to all the dudes out there listening, you know,
you think about the next time you decide to do
some man skipping.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah you clip you clean that poop all right.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Because just so you know you're not the only one
out there.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, you clean that poop. Right, But let me ask
you about this final. So let's say, drink after you
do it? Cheers? Oh cheers? Bad luck?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right, everybody else at home that doesn't drink after they cheers? Sorry,
So man skipping.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wait a minute, your man explaining I have I have
weird cheers. I don't believe in like the superstition of cheers.
Like if I have a martini glass it's fairly full.
I'm not gonna, like, you know, touch touch everybody's glass
every time I do four dollars here, tweet dolls here,
just falling onto the table. I just don't need it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So I thought you're going to keep it sanitary route,
but you're like, I.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Don't know whatever or the whole always Oh you can't
toast with water. I really don't care. It is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So toast its water with my kid every morning he's
eighteen months, he does, he does a toast, he does cheers.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
If you were in this final, how do you think
so far you would have done? Because I do feel
like other than you're obviously your hiccup with the canoe
and issella that this wasn't really that this was more
of the memory based stuff. And whatever. I feel like this.
You had the current in this one. You guys were
very responsible for providing your own trajectory on All Stars,
and that's how you got spun around. The current did
a lot of the work here for these guys down
(24:47):
the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They started us in a backwards canoe and we just
didn't know it. And I'm not that well versed in
that stuff, so, uh, yeah, I don't know how the
hell I do in these fucking you know these rapids.
At first in my head, I was like, Oh, they're
whitewater rafting.
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Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yah
What's up, everybody? Scott Yeager here with another Challenge Many
episode breakdown. Here to break down part one of the
two part final of The Challenge season forty one, Vets
and New Threats. Boy, has this been a great season? Boy?
Is this a big final? So we decided to go big.
That's right. You might notice we don't have our usual
stream yard interface. Derek and I are here sitting next
to each other because we had to break this thing
(00:34):
down live and in person. We're gonna talk about it
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That's where you get full and gorgeous video of all
of our podcasts and interviews, including this one. But you
did not come for me, You came for d So
joining me as always to break down season forty one.
He started this season, he got two thirds of the
(00:55):
way through this season, and man, boy, do I have
a feeling he wishes he was taking part in this
final that we're breaking down for you here today. You
didn't come for me, You came for Deed, Mister Derek
Kazinski what's that, buddy.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, it pains me not to be in this final,
and it pains me to see Adrian in pain during
this final, because it really feels like at some point
we may have been the uh, the one that they missed,
(01:28):
the one that we missed. There was a conversation that
me and her didn't get to have. We still haven't.
The union's have been shot. We haven't gotten her on
the podcast, And for about three days there, I thought
to myself, Fuck, if we only had that conversation, maybe
things would be different. But then again, you know what,
(01:49):
I have helped their win four eliminations. I don't know,
you know, but at the end of this thing, the
moral of the story is can you get your ass
up in down mountains? And can you swim a little bit? Now,
it's not all that right. We saw the uh, the
kayaking through the rough waters.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
I don't know if I'd be good at that. How
do you practice that? Like it's like it's it's like
we've seen you on a canoe.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Im shitty at canoes. But then again, there's still a
fourth place right now.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Nonetheless, what is this conversation you get You're saying you
guys were almost partners.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I'm saying it could have been me and her as
partners and before uh you right, rights, So I still
haven't had this conversation, but what I would have said
to her was that I think that we could win
this thing. I think where I think we can get
(02:42):
up and down the mountains better than maybe not maybe
not Turbo and Sydney, maybe not Olivia and and and
uh hear me, but maybe if things go gets shaken
up a little bit, as you can see in two,
we may have some people switching, switching teams, then maybe
(03:04):
we could win this thing. I would have made a
case to say that we could win this.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, Devil's advocate would say that, I mean, you have
to get to the final first, right, So let's say
that let's say it ends up being you and Adrian
and THEO and D. And let's say you guys wind
up in that same elimination where uh, THEO whooped your
ass and D whooped her ass. Uh, it probably probably
would have went the same way because we would have
ended a lot sooner.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, very true, very true, virtue and uh, and
we would have probably been in elimination right away too,
because I think that I do think that Adrian was
the X factor as far as like who are we
you know, who are people going to put in?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
So I think not.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
However it went down, whether it was you know, THEO
and Adrian or me and Adrian as partners, like her
fate was going to be going to elimination and see
how well her and her partner do, and and and
and to your case, I would have I would have
probably maybe not have done as well as THEO, and
(04:03):
maybe our fate would have been going home sooner than
later as well.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Do you think though, for instance, because I always thought
it was the collection of THEO and Olivia and having
all these Brits on their side, and obviously Adrian being
one of them. Whereas if she's your partner, are you
able maybe to pivot a little bit and instead of
falling in line and going their D route, maybe you
try to play into some of your OG alliances. Maybe
you're tugging at you know, Anissa a little bit, or
(04:29):
Nannie or Aviv or whatever. Maybe you could have saved
you guys from that fate. Or do you think it
was Adrian who was the target of Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Think that all of those women upstairs had put a
target on her because she was still part of that
UK alliance that they couldn't get to quite yet. Because
they were able to get to Tay, they were able
to get to Izzy, and then Adrian was just the
next one up. And so yeah, I mean, regardless, I
(04:58):
think that whoever ended up with Adrian would have had
the tougher road, But you just have to give credit
to how tough she is. And you know, just seeing
her at the end of this episode, like you know,
almost in tears because the dude wouldn't go in the water,
and look, not everyone's made for really fucking cold water.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Not everyone's made for swimming.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Not everyone's made for the hike in the climb. And
it's really what this this final is starting to look
like is go till you crack, go till something falls off,
go till you break, go till you quit, because like,
in some ways, like we're already seeing so many people,
you know, complaining turbos, like, ah, my legs, I'm not
(05:41):
thirty years old anymore. When I won that final and
wore the World's won, you know, I'm thirty seven years old,
and it's just and he's still good, he's still really good.
But you see Sidney just like absolutely, you know, like
laughing at this stuff. I mean, you see Sidney versus
Yearmi on the stair climber. And I know we're not
an MVP and LVP quite yet, and we will get there,
(06:05):
but I'm gonna I'm gonna say it right now. We
don't need to fill her head up with any more.
She's good at anything. But I think when someone calls her, uh,
the cross country runner from Beverly Hills, like what, I mean.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What a That's what he used to call me, by the.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Way, you know, I mean, could you imagine being a
cross country runner from Beverly Hills, h but and Long Island,
New York. I think she's also from kind of.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But here's the one thing I'll say about you. I
don't think anyone would have ever seen you do. And granted,
I mean, look, there's few people I would see would
would do what THEO did. I mean, probably one of
the worst looks we've ever seen of him, just like
flat out like no, I'm I'm not going in the water,
and in front of his you know girlfriend, and you
(06:55):
know obviously all the well, I guess Sidney did I
guess what throws it off. Is Sidney did it for
two so he looked at it as, oh, the rookies
have to earn their stripes. But like, is chivalry completely dead?
I thought British people invented chivalry like that was I mean,
I think I like, let's say, hypothetically you win this
thing next week, like people are gonna remember you not
wanting to take a bath like that, Like I don't know,
I'd be like in a wet suit too. Really that's
(07:19):
the thing.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well, well, to be fair, look and to all those
people that have an experience like extremely cold water, like
it's easier to you know, sit there as armchair quarterback.
Like these people are literally coming like not only have
they been freezing already by the stair climbers, but they
just got a helicopter ride. And once they get off
the helicopter ride, they have the they have the propeller
(07:42):
of a helicopter fucking pushing them into the cold water.
Like that's what they're experiencing. Like the hell the propellers
aren't stopping, like they're literally propelling them into freezing cold water.
And I mean, you gotta give you know a again,
Sidney the credit for being like, Okay, I'll do it,
(08:04):
not whine about it, and just kind of like sit
there and like kind of is she is kind of
carrying turbo and you got to give her a credit for,
you know, beating Jearimie on the stair climber, like cause
that could have changed things right there.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We wonder though, I mean, like, for instance, this is
why I always complained about finals. Do we really know
right now we just watched a ninety minute episode, sixty
minutes of content. Do we really have a gauge of
how far along anyone is? I mean, obviously the cliffhanger
is we could still have a stake of claim here
they're sitting by a campfire. I mean, I will say,
you know, if I'm gonna nitpick here, we don't really
(08:40):
know who's drastically ahead, if anybody. We don't know whether
THEO taking so long to decide to not go in
Adrian having to do it, is that potentially going to
cost them the final? More than likely none of this
will cost anybody anything, because we know that these are
pretty backloaded contests. They always kind of want everybody to
be in on it. And honestly, now that we have
this cliffhanger. We don't even get the juice of somebody
(09:01):
staking a claim. We spent half the episode last week
talking about the different scenarios. You watch this episode and
you go, wow, you know, does Sidney even more so
want not to have Turbot for the back half of this.
You look at Juramy, He's flat out said, I love Sydney,
but I hate Turbo. Does he want to swoop in
and savor in the ninth inning? We don't even get that.
So you know, I'm a little bit unfulfilled. I'll be honest.
(09:24):
I wish you know, I feel like, you know, it's
Thanksgiving week here. I feel like I got like a
hot pocket filled with cranberry sauce and sweet potatoes. But
I need a little bit more meat on the bone.
Mister Lavin here, If I'm gonna guess, if I'm gonna guess,
then this is pessimist in me. I don't know. I
really don't know. This is me guessing. I'm gonna guess
that nobody does take a claim, because if they did,
(09:45):
I think they would have ended on that. And then
the suspense is, how does the fallout change the fact
that we ended on the cliffhanger that we already got
the teas of tells me that I don't know that
we're getting a steak to claim next week. So I
feel like I'm and set up to be disappointed in
that regard because I really wanted to see one of these. Well, well,
we don't know what we don't know. I'm just I'm
(10:06):
literally just guessing based on by putting my TV producer
hat on, and I'm going, if you have something good
and juicy, like a Jeremy taking I mean, we get
turbos saying flat out if you think my puttner, I
will crush you whatever he says. Yeah, Like, honestly, if
you have that moment, then you cut it off and
then we have to tune in next week to see
if he crushes him. That's the cliffhanger. If we don't
(10:27):
have him taking the claim, That's why this the cliffhanger
is is he gonna do it? Is THEO gonna go
with Olivia? Honestly after that? Does Adrian want somebody else?
After THEO? Just you know, basically made I mean, because
here's the other thing about that. Look obviously like we
keep going to you know, Sydney did it for her team,
but man for THEO to see having Jeremy just did
that for his girlfriend and he won't do it for
(10:49):
his partner. Like I feel like there would have been
a little bit of pride in there, just to kind
of show Olivia that I'm doing it essentially, yes for
my partner, but also for you. So not a great
look for THEO, even for a partner that he's had
a great relationship with all seasons. So every team is
sort of on the rocks here. It would be awesome
if one of them took a claim, just because as
a viewer it'd be exciting. But I'm starting to feel
(11:10):
like we're not getting it. Going into this week, I
was like certain we were gonna get it. We were
gonna get probably Jeremie taking Sydney or vice versa, And
now I'm thinking, for whatever reason, we don't because I
feel like that's what they would have ended on.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So, I mean, let's talk about the juiciest potential swaps, right,
Juicy's potential stakes, because like, you got a guy like
Cedric who has the ankle breaker, right, Mikayla who with
(11:45):
the with the three times sprained ankle in this final,
even saying maybe it's in his best interest to go
because maybe she is feeling like I can't win this.
But let's be honest, like not, you don't know what
is next in the final. You don't know if it's
like eating or more puzzles or more swimming or more
(12:07):
kayaking or more biking, which may be some stuff that
like she can do, right, So you can never like
one say, all right, we're out of this game, right.
So but if you're Cedric, you start thinking about like
how close am I really with this person?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
And uh? And if you're Sydney, you're like.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Is Turbo still the best guy option in this game?
And if you're Jeremy and you go, man, we both
just lost to Sydney and Turbo and Cedric in the
StairMaster stair climber thing, does Jeremy jump shit? So I think, yeah,
(12:50):
I think the juiciest thing to see right now is like,
does do your We've already seen Jeremy make the big
move to get rid of of Eve take Olivia. Now
he can get rid of Olivia. We also don't know
and take Sydney.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
There's got to be some steaks, right, because obviously it's
steak acclaim, But there's also there's got to be a risk,
There's got to be some sort of a trade off,
because for instance, it's not like you can just grab
somebody and then they you know, are they just about
do they have to take it right? Do they have
to say yes? Or do you have to then beat
someone in an elimination or some sort of erace or something?
And then what are the what are the results of
(13:26):
losing that? Because all season it's been you go into elimination?
Are we going to see an elimination here? I wouldn't
be so surprised if we did. But if all four
teams can go, hey, all four of us can fight
this thing out, if nobody's steaks, I feel like that
might be what happens here. And and I and I
like the michaela stuff three noble of her to say,
you know, oh, maybe he should do what's best for him,
(13:48):
but the fact after the fact. But is there on
the other end of it, a female counterpart who feels
like that is best for them? It would need to
be that Sidney prefers him to Turbot, Olivia prefer him
to Jeremy, or Adrian prefers him to theo which maybe
coming out of the water freezing cold, maybe she does.
But again, so the circumstances play a part in it.
(14:09):
I feel like going into a lot of finals, I
what I've noticed, especially in re seasons, everybody's kind of
hunky dory. There's sort of trauma bonding and being in finals.
You don't see a lot of backstabbery in finals. In fact,
you see the opposite. You see the Here take thirty
eight grand from from Devin and Tory for everybody. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, when you're like, I mean, whenever you're like trauma bonding,
I guess is a is A is a nice way
to put it. I don't know if it's like like
a cancelable offense, Like, I don't know if it's gonna
like make people think about fucked up shit.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's triggering to say trauma bonding now maybe to remind
people of their traumas. Yeah, I guess. I guess if
you really have trauma bonded with people over serious traumas,
you would be why you'd be offended by two guys
on a couch saying trauma bonding on a mountain. But
all these people are being starved these people are honestly
being drowned and starved. You're already freezing. Jump in the
water and go get that fucking key. There's different. Oh
(15:00):
you're cold. I think it applies you're dress in that water.
I'll fucking show you cold.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And if you don't want to jump in that water,
get the fuck off of this mountain.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Quit big. I think we're seeing Wait a minute, we're
on different shows.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think that's Special Forces.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
TG doesn't do that anymore, right, Yeah, But I will
say though here there's another element to it. Just I
feel like something about the campfire, the overnight. It feels
very like, you know, summer campy, whether it's trauma or whatever,
you're bonding. You feel like, oh, we're on an excursion,
Like there's something about being in a final that again,
other than the people like Johnny Bananas who very easily
(15:33):
took money from his very own partner, let alone everyone else,
and unlike obviously Ashley Mitchell does it to Hunter, it
does feel like people are pretty copasetic. And again you
hear people talking about maybe making moves for other people.
Oh you know, oh is this better for Cedric? Should
I do this for Sydney? You know, but you don't
really see the greed. You don't really see that I
(15:53):
want to get a better partner for me. We haven't
heard that really from anybody, And I feel like that's
probably the only way you were gonna get this because
unless people are able to have little side conversations here,
I don't really know that it's set up for a
lot of strategizing unless everyone's going to go and do
the math and say, would you be better with you?
Would you be better with you? And if it comes
with the risk of if someone does that, there's gonna
(16:14):
be a race, or there's gonna be a poll wrestler
this whatever, and the loser teams out. Maybe everyone goes,
maybe we just try this the four of us.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, no, Yeah, It's like because I mean, you're you're
he's gonna go, does anyone want to stake a claim?
And everyone's going to be looking at each other like.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Fuck, what next? I just can't tell us. We're I'm
telling you what's happening.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
We're spitting this out, and we're saying, hey, TJ, what
do we have to do to stake a claim?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, like, what do we have to do?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
What's next? And they're gonna say, he's gonna say, I'm
not telling you it.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
But give us that. But here's what I'll say this.
Wan'll say it's just as a viewer, and you know
everyone's talking about O season forty two. What can the
show do better? You know what's going to get us engaged?
Don't do the double teas. Okay, if you tease something
in the preview for today's episode, so episode eighteen, final,
Part one, the teaser for this episode was the guess
(17:04):
what someone gets to stake a claim? Then then we
end this on the cliffhanger of this that we already
got that bit of information, we need something new. I
guess if you wanted to nipick, you could say that
the added tidbit is we get that you can take anybody.
We had theorized that last week. That was the only
way for this to make sense. But like to me,
don't do the double teas, don't tease something and then
have me watch ninety more minutes and then we end
(17:24):
on that cliffhanger. You got to give me more. So
you know I love two part finals. I love the
word extending the season now here, but you know I
wanted a little more from this, especially since I'll be honest,
other than THEO in the water and other than obviously
Turbo continuing to just mansplain everything, even in a language
he doesn't know. That's another word. Yeah, not let me
(17:45):
using that one. No, I remember when man's plain was
was my wife uses it on me every day?
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Do you know man spread this is it? I'm doing it? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Man's plain was brought to my attention during a time
time when I believe a guest that we had on
multiple times decided to say I quit Challenge Mania forever
because someone was mansplaining and we was gonna leave it
at that. But that's what I found out about Man's
(18:17):
Thank you Ashley Mitchell?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Was it? Ashley Mitchell? Was it? Wait? Was that really?
That's why should quit? For the first time, we man
explained her. You Man's plain? Oh? On Twitter about the
Oh yeah, that's what it was. He so, but there
wasn't on the podcast. That was a very unfortunate Twitter
debate we got into.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
That was a that was a big take back.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Twenty twenty were dark times. But what I'll say is
for those of you guys who don't know what man's
plaining is, just in case you didn't live through the
twenty remind we were just tacking man. No, we were
putting the word the prefixed man on any word. And
if a man does it, it's man doing that, right.
I'm telling you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm watching the show Special Forces on I think it's NBC,
And ironically my likes it too, because normally she's watching
like the Kardashians or Housewives or something like that. So
the fact that she's like, oh, yeah, let's watch these
like celebrities go through this, you know, special Forces training
in a matter of like ten days. The show is
(19:15):
like ten days long, and they do ship day and night.
And the celebrities like like Sean Johnson, a former Olympian.
She's there with her husband who's a former football player,
NFL player, Randall Cobb, Johnny Manziel.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So they really got the all stars guy.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
The guy, the guy, the guy that has like had
like three wives and has like sixty kids.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I forget his fucking name. Oh, Antonio Cramarti.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Uh No, he's not a football player.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
He's just he's just a guy. He's just just a man.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He's just a man that has man spreading head man
spreading man everywhere, has problems with some of his children.
From my understanding from watching the show, he's got some man.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Pro yeah, I think.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I only has one wife, and he's on this
show and he's like tracking up this hill and he's like, hey,
Randall Cobb, you just got to truck up this thing
like a billy goat.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I'm just like, oh, that is different, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
So he's like fifty seven years old and he's like
crushing and it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Sometimes it's necessary.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Let me tell you how these guys man explained to
these celebrities. They're like, oh, you're trying to get up
this hill. Get the fuck up there. You're trying to quit.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, these are special force. You can't quit.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You can't quit quit being a fucking pussy. Now they're
not saying that, but kind of you know, like you know,
and I thought that this is like something that was
like not allowed on television anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know what I mean. J was harsh back then.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I mean he was probably getting he was probably getting
destroyed for saying, oh, you quit, I hate quitters.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
They're like, you can't say I hate quitters anymore. That's
not nice. No, we're back, we're we're quitters. Quitting is
now quitting is now not allowed and explaining his back.
But listen, that's right. And we we have THEO Best
Man's Plains, and we do have THEO. Uh, well, would
you say, Joe ass in that water, Adrian? I wouldn't
(21:11):
say that. I would say what it is like, you
get in that water? Yeah? And THEO was like, no,
shut up.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, Adrian go.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Turbo's like, Adrian, you do not go.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Yeah, you do not go in the Water's like, wait,
you made Sydney go in the water, so you do
not go, Adrian.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
This is men job. There was a really good shot
of THEO and in the background it's it's Turbo in
the background, and Turbo just gives THEO look like the
lake is over there, brother, Like he gives him a look.
He doesn't say it. He just literally goes, you have to,
(21:56):
you have to. And again, what's funny is what's funny
you can my legs. Turbo is Man's good. Turbo is
man plating during when they're getting these checkpoints and he's
trying to tell her and he and again it's funny
that that you know he's admitted to her. I don't
even know what some of these words are. What's a witch,
what's a deer? Blah blah blah. And there's a priest,
which that's a witch.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
No, she goes, no, that's a priest.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah. So so he's obviously, and and it ends up
impacting them and their game obviously, and you know, she
gives a couple Jim looks to the camera office style
of like I'm just still dealing with this. But with
THEO it's more like, I mean, whatever the opposite of
because because to me, the man's plaining or that would
have been the like no, no, no, no, I'm gonna do this.
I'll do this better than no. They're like, no, you
(22:37):
do this, I'm too cold. Like I mean, that was
like I don't know what the word is for that,
but that was like man man shaming or man man
shameful or man I don't know, man skipping. I don't know,
man skipping, man skipping, man skipping, man skipping. That was good.
I'll sometimes do that where I'm like, I'm like we
my wife and I this is little weird tangent, but
my my sometimes when one of my kids will h
(22:59):
will poopy in the un and I just want to
throw it out, and my wife will go, no, we
are cleaning that, and I go, I just want to
throw it out, and she goes, fine, then i'll do it,
and I'll go no, I don't want you to have
to do it. She goes, then you do it, and
I go, well, I'm not doing it. I'm going to
throw it out, and we get the same way. It's like,
I'm not gonna do it, but I don't want you
to do it. Man skipping. Yeah, man skipping, I don't
want to do it, but don't make it seem like
I made you do it, because I'm willing for both
of us to throw it out, and I'm willing to
throw it out. So he was willing for both of
(23:21):
them to, like what, I don't even think they needed
to get the key whatever. He's like, He's like, oh,
col right now, Okay, Olivia is still good. She's got this.
But so he was man skipping there.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, to all the dudes out there listening, you know,
you think about the next time you decide to do
some man skipping.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yeah you clip you clean that poop all right.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Because just so you know you're not the only one
out there.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, you clean that poop. Right, But let me ask
you about this final. So let's say, drink after you
do it? Cheers? Oh cheers? Bad luck?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Right, everybody else at home that doesn't drink after they cheers? Sorry,
So man skipping.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Wait a minute, your man explaining I have I have
weird cheers. I don't believe in like the superstition of cheers.
Like if I have a martini glass it's fairly full.
I'm not gonna, like, you know, touch touch everybody's glass
every time I do four dollars here, tweet dolls here,
just falling onto the table. I just don't need it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
So I thought you're going to keep it sanitary route,
but you're like, I.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Don't know whatever or the whole always Oh you can't
toast with water. I really don't care. It is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
So toast its water with my kid every morning he's
eighteen months, he does, he does a toast, he does cheers.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
If you were in this final, how do you think
so far you would have done? Because I do feel
like other than you're obviously your hiccup with the canoe
and issella that this wasn't really that this was more
of the memory based stuff. And whatever. I feel like this.
You had the current in this one. You guys were
very responsible for providing your own trajectory on All Stars,
and that's how you got spun around. The current did
a lot of the work here for these guys down
(24:47):
the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
They started us in a backwards canoe and we just
didn't know it. And I'm not that well versed in
that stuff, so, uh, yeah, I don't know how the
hell I do in these fucking you know these rapids.
At first in my head, I was like, Oh, they're
whitewater rafting.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I'm like, bro, that's not even a raft. All right, maniacs.
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