Champions Connect EP. 7 HOST_ THE REFRESHER GUEST_ Coach Willie Ponds

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back, guys to another episode of Champions Connect, episode seven.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I have a special guest with me today.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
One of my mentors who you know, put in a
lot to me growing up. You know, he definitely was
a pitotal point of me being aggressive to who I
am now. Taught me a lot and to this day
it's one of my best friends, like a father figure
to me. And guys, you know who Coach Pons is.
Coach Spawns is a great dude to be in tuned with.

(00:32):
I encourage every basketball player to go out and reach
out to Coach Pahns because, trust me, guys, it's definitely
gonna learn some things about Coach Hans. You know, I
got his Buy you up right there, guys, in a minute,
and I'm gonna show you, guys a brief video of
who Coach Pawns is.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
And I hope you got at this video.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Give me a second the video on real quick, and guys,
is Coach Pawns. Count down? Countdown. We're gonna do a
countdown and then Coach Pawn's on. Hope you guys, So
then this is a great guy to be in tune with. Again, guys,
he's more than a coach he's a pastor. H he's
a motivator. And uh, you know, I'll show you the rector.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Reading from Mama Common Baptist Church for the Animal Eat
ninety years to see your passion like that. I thank
you for allowing me to come this morning and see
my son and my grandkids, my daughter, and I see
some of my freezers here.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Amen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I won't win before your mom, but I kind of
want to share my testimony. And my testimony is not
necessarily about basketball, but.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
My testimony it's through basketball. Amen. Now I got a
little time, I'll.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
Su restrain it.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
So I put a little help standing so I will
answered for back my story.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Amen.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
So I grew up in church.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I grew up in church, not the building, cause the
building's not the church.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
I grew up in the people in the church.

Speaker 6 (02:18):
My dad was.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
A past before forty five years. And there's a saying
sometimes it's true, sometimes it's not.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
But there's a saying.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
That pastor got the worst kids. The reason why they
say that.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Cause we were hanging around with the deacons kids. So, uh,
as I grew up, I grew up in church, and
I I grew up around the church, and every time
the church door was open, up was at the church,
facadt ministry, food bank, bringing kids to night, ministry, cleaned

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up in the backyard in Manistreet.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
So every time the church going was open, I was
at the church.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
But during that time I knew about Jesus, but I
didn't know him personally.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
And then it hit.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Tragedy.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
My parents estimate and Willie Raid. My mom she died
at thirty eight.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Wow. My dad, he went into a calla never woke up.
My sister.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
I had two sisters, Jennifer and Kathy. My sister Kathy,
she moved from California and she never came back. She
came back and visited, but she never came back to stay.
My older sister Jennifer, she died at twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Mm.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
My grandmother, she died at early age. My aunts or
my uncles. My aunt got hit by a car on
Little Creek.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
My best cousin, I found him dead in this apartment.

Speaker 6 (04:24):
My best aunt. My other cousin found her dead in
the bed. So there's a lot of tragedy in my life.
And I just recently missed.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
My uncle uncle Sam, he just died recently but that's
not the end.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Of the little story. I met this guy. His name was
mister stag.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
And mister Spaldein replaced my family.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
And everywhere I went, mister Spaulding went with me. I
went to the grocery store, mister Smalley to come, and
then my neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
They said there was nobody liked basketball more than Ponds.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Because I went informed you and that's my wife and
the name.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
One point in the.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Time of my life, I was her complexion. But because
I was driveling to fall down in.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
The hot sun, I got to get this color.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Amen, so shame. Mister Smallman was my best friend. I
talked to Spaldy. I held Spalding and spalleding me. Took
me places where I never could go. Spat and mister
Spauny might did things for me I developed could do.

(06:06):
Mister Spartan took me all over the world, all over
the country.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
My son used to say, William Paun's always good a run.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Because I would be at home trying to go through
the court. They would call, tell when you're coming, We say,
if you were up, So mister Spading, he helped me.
The Bible said that love covers a multitudes of sick.
So my family passed away and I had anybody, So
I put everything into mister Smaldy. Well, mister Smaldy loved me,

(06:42):
but it couldn't keep me. So as I got older,
I met mister Wilson. Now, mister Wilson was better than
mister Smaalding because.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
He was a great up.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
So I put mister Wilson down when I started hanging
out with mister Small, I mean mister Wilson.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
But mister Wilson can see on this ball says evolution.
So I started informing right to things that I didn't understand.
And if you look at vall.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Means that you come from.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
A gradual place that's simple to another place that's complex.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
So now I wouldn't have playing in the backyard. I
was playing over seas.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I was playing in the feeble when I was the
only African American on the team, couldn't speak the ladas.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
But I had a jump shot, a wicked jump shacking
him that spot for me.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Hey me. Then after that, my.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Life's spiraled down. Because the Bible talks about love comes
to multiples to the sin.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
But love, the love of something.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Is the root of all evil.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
The Bible says money, but basketball wasn't my group to
all evil because when I was playing basketball, I was
playing and I was balling, I was playing in the league.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I was making money, but.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
I was in living to In other words, I was.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Dressed up God's kid. I looked good on that on
the outside, but I was terrible on the inside. Let
me move this train because I still got a little
more work than gain. Then after I put mister smalling down. Man,

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if you want to think.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
The basketball with Jesus walk in my life too, so
that basketball walk.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
To Wilson.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
All right, guys, what I further do?

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I'm gonna bring up Coach Paon's guys, Coach Fawn showing
up some love all my maineness.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Let's get it.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
Coach Pain.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
How you doing, sir?

Speaker 5 (09:37):
I'm doing good, sir. How are you?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
That was a powerful testimony. Man, I never know you
had lost some mother. I lost my mom eleven years.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Ago, so.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
At an earlier age, early age. I was probably around
twelve thirteen years old. Brother, Yeah, that was a crucial
part of my life.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, you definitely turned out to be a great person man,
a great bro what, a great leader, and a great
mentor supposed to tell you that.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
I appreciate you being so gracious.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
But if anybody on this podcast they knew me, Sean,
you wouldn't have known me when I was in my rightlessness.
So the first thing I have to do to have
to get honder to the Lord, my Lord, to stay
with Jesus Christ, who has brought me this far thus far,
and that without him, we wouldn't even be having this conversation,
probably having this conversation from a jail sale. But he

(10:30):
didn't allow me to stay there. I went there, but
he didn't allow me to stay there.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Okay, okay, So coach Man, so question, what was your motivation?
Was your passion? What drove me to be where you
are now?

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Coach?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
The first of all, mister Jackson is man, I love basketball, Sean.
I'm sixty five years old. I'm still going to the
gym like I'm twenty. I'm not doing stuf like I
was twenty, but I'm in the gym. I love basketball,
and so basketball motivated me to stay out of trouble

(11:09):
a little, and that it provided me an opportunity to
serve God through basketball. And that's my testimony showed me
is that once I put God in the equation and
you know my story.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
It's incredible. God has took me places through the bouncing
of the ball, Sean, all over the world. I'm from Virginia.
We met in Florida. Nobody knew me. Nobody knew me.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
I came over to coach basketball and I coached in
Trinity and Sean, you know, I got me and my
wife and I had to get a shout out.

Speaker 5 (11:47):
To Renee that we got our own team, the South
Coast Fire and.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
We and we made some noise and I just I mean,
and that motivated me to because I love people. I
love people, and so because of that, you know, the
ministry of the Dripper was developed.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
And one thing you told me, Coach, is that I'm
glad I got you my podcast because you knew me
back then and like like you said, back then.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
With shy, but you know, I had to end me,
you know.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
So it's a blessing to have you my podcast, Coach,
because a lot of people don't know the old Sean.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Don't know how it used to be shy quiet, you know,
kind of teet and not really talking to just quiet, you.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Know, yeah, Sean.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
But even back then, if you can recollect, I told
you you had it in you. Matter of fact, I
used to holler at you and tell you, Sean, you
better than you think you are. Sean, you great. Do
you remember those conversations and I just I just push
you and I just talked to you, and I saw

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that in you. And even if even when I've done
that and you you never faltered, You never backed up.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
You never so I ain't coming back. You know, you
embraced it. And and look what God has done. And
I'm sorry, man, I'm so proud of you, sir, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I mean, I think like you put it in me.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Man.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I remember one of the phrases that stuck in my
head to this day. I said, talk about your coach.
I was like, man, my coach Pond's back in the day.
He's gonna run you to death. He said, You're gonna
runna run, You're gonna run some more.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah. Man, look I had this saying.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
And only basketball players know this, guys who have not
played at a high level.

Speaker 5 (13:40):
I used to say, do you know, Earl? You know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, I said, do you know, Earl? I said, coach,
I never made Earl Matt Earl. I said, well you're
gonna meet Earl today and Sean Earl is Earl.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
You go meet early today over the trash can.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah so I remember that. I remember that. I remember
that that was a good time like that Coach was Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So yeah, Coach Man, I just want to bring you
on the podcast kind of talk about some motivation, some inspiration,
motivate the younger brothers coming up that can really use
this motivation, because Man, I watched your videos. I love
how you empowered the youth. You empowered it's not only
the youth, but that a young adults as well too.
You know, as far as like twenty twenty one year olds.
You have a big impact on their lives as war

(14:33):
towo coach Man. So I just want to continue to
talk about that motivation people today, you know, keep going on,
coach Man Like. So my thing is because my question
that you coach is at sixty five years old.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
And you still have that fire.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
So what can you tell somebody that's coming up that
gives up and don't have that fire like you're a
prime example. Man, Like, my hats off to you, coach,
because a lot of people get up in ages say hey,
well I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
I'm old.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
And you're not letting your mind define who you are.
You're not letting your age define you.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
You know what I'm saying. You're like, hey, I'm.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I'm gonna outshoot you. I might care, i'll w or
go pass you, but I will outshoot you any day
of the week.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
You know, So, how can you get that same fire?
What would you tell somebody that's coming up younger to
maintain that fight.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
And never give up. Well, you know, one of my
montros is work is essential. Work is essential. If you're
not working, the Bible say you don't work, you don't eat.
Work is essential.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Another thing, too, is someone asks me, pauns will wake
you up in the morning, mister.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Jackson, Passion wakes me up in the morning.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Not the long clock passion, the passion of what I'm doing,
the passion of what I'm capable of doing. Matter of fact,
at the age of sixty five, I told somebody and
one of my promotional speeches is uh that I'm still dreaming.
Five four three two one hit the jump shot, won

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the championship, and when I got.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Up in the morning, I went in the living room
to see if the trophy was in there. Is that?
Is that vivid?

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And I and I talked to the Lord about man
on sixty five. When is that burning gonna go away?
You say, Pawns, you ain't dead yet. Brother, Working essential.
So I tell young people right to get better, you
gotta work hard. There's no replacement for working hard. You

(16:39):
look at the NBA. You look at Steph you look
at Curry. You see him shooting them shots and dribbling
the ball. You just see the aftermat, but he is shooting.
I see it, Charles, I see it Charles another either
another one of my guys that put that ball in
the hole and he got pivots. Exactly what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
It's in the gym. You may not you be in
the gym. You may not do a lot every day.
You're gonna eat every day. If you don't eat every day,
you're gonna die.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
If you're gonna don't work hard every day on your
basketball game, it's gonna die.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
And then you're gonna start talking about.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yo, what I used to do man back in the day. No,
I'm talking about to day. So anybody who listened to
me and I'm in Portsmblle, Virginia. Look me up today.
I outshoot you just like John not what I did
back in the day. And people who listen to me
know that I'll get in the gym and we can
go at it.

Speaker 5 (17:37):
We can go at it.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Look at y'alls say, because I outside Charles, you know,
and and he's not a joke. You then like, I'm
shooting to get some guys that are not good. But
competition make you better at a high level.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yes, sir, yes, sir man. So any questions for me coach?
I think when I ask me coach or we got
the live audience, you got some real viewers as well too.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Yeah, you know this is what for your podcast and
for you know what you are doing. There's other people
who has a story to tell. There's other people who
have something to share. They need they need to contact
the refresher and to explain to the world to be see,

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this thing that we're doing right now is informational and
a lot of times people don't know what to do
because they don't know what to do.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
If you know better, you'll do better. There's a lot
of information out there.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
There's a lot of people out there that can motivate
you and to help you, because no one done anything
by theirself. Talking about you know, I pulled myself up
by my old boot scraps, that's a lie.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's a lie.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Everything you've done, somebody helped you do it.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So you know, I just put my head's off to you,
mister Jackson, to continue to do what you do and
to keep motivating.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
And it's refreshing.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
AKA, it's refreshing that you will even allow me, an
old man up here to talk about things that's really.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
Good to my spirit to do.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
And so that's promoting, you know, my ministry, the power
of the dribble bigger than basketball, Willie Paun's Basketball Power Camp,
and I'm doing it all.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Across the country and I thank God for it.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Man, you're doing great things coaching, and thank you coach man.
Like I said, sir, like, I'm here to grow every
single day. And I tell people the way of life
is if you want to work on yourself and get better,
it's a full time job. You know, health as well.
You know, you got to be able to take yourself
outside your comfort zone. A lot of people are used
to being comfortable. You know it's a beautiful place, but

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nothing grows there. So you got to be able to
step outside of your comfort zone and do something that
others don't have the results that others won't.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And I realized that being the main Like I said,
I'm ready to come back, coach, when come, I got
that come and fuck you man, go for the team, coach, because.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Look, I'm really for the challenge. But why I got
you here? And people have seen the polished work. But
if you could share a little bit about where you
came from to where you are now, Christer Jackson is
simply amazing.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Like you coach back then, as to be shy, tenant,
not ready talkative, you know, just away from the world,
like I didn't work as hard.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
I ain't push myself.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
I worked hard if I ain't push myself, like I
placed limitations above myself and I learned to live without
limitations now, But like back then, I have limitations.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I was always thinking like whatever this.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Happens, or this that happens, or what that happens, all
always in my head, over thinking and not just doing.
You know, and tell people you want to do more
than you think because you think more than you're doing,
not does I tend you're not going to do it.
And I think that was my issue back then too.
I was thinking more than I was doing, So now
doing more than I'm thinking. If that makes sense, Coach.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
It does make sense.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
And you know, we're talking about your broadcast and I'm
a reference in basketball, but there's other sports. You're a
volleyball player, you're a football player, if you're a baseball
or a softball player. If you play pool, if you swim,
if you're a mechanic. I mean, there are so many

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gifts that God has given you that you could blow
it up, exactly, blow it up. If you're in the
food industry, if you work at McDonald's, you could go
from working at McDonald's to own three of them. So
sky's the limit if you work hard. And so I'm

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encouraging people right that the gift that God has given you,
and it's through him that he will give you the
desires of your heart. That's what the Bible says. So
I have a desire to still play basketball. I had
the desire to mentor men and young men, boys and girls,
and I have a passion to do it. Anybody know me,

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knows that I wake up to do this. I got
a thing that my wife said to me when we
first met. And listen to this, mister Jackson. Renee told me, baby,
if I was a basketball, would you dribble me? I
got a basketball wife. You've seen the movie Loving Basketball.

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That's Renee and Willie because she Thene came beside me. Sean,
you know my wife came beside me. My wife can't
play no basketball all, but my wife is getting the balls.
My wife is collecting the money at the gate. My
wife is doing everything that she possitibly can to support
her man and his dream and its purpose. And there's

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a people who will support you. There's people who don't
even want to come through the game.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
Sean.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Ponds are like, what you're doing, take this five hundred dollars,
I'll take it. Yes, certain Thicket, thank you very much,
and go do what God calls you to do. You
know what I'm saying, and so what I'm saying to
you live on your broadcast. If you need anything, Sean, anything,
I'm not talking about talking about vice. I'm talking about
just to talk. I'm talking about financial You aller at

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your boy man, you all at your boy.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Man, if I don't get it, I don't have it.
You know, I'm gonna call Charles. You listen to Charles.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
If I ain't got it, i'ma call y'all. Now I'm
just joking, but uh, you know the Lord will provide.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
One thing.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
One thing you said, Coach that stuck out to me, man,
was I want you to kind of elaborate to the audience,
is that God himself wasn't born average. God himself was
born of royalty, so as as humans, God realized that
he wasn't born to be average, was born to be royal.
And I feel like a lot of people can't adapt

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that mentality of that we was born to be royal
or not average.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I think the world give better place.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
You're great goats, I agree, but I agree.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
I want people to understand there's two great events in
your life.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
The day you was born.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
In the day you found out why a lot of
people be born, but they never found out why.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
They were born to do what. And let me give
you examples.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
A pencil was created to write any race, not an
in pen ink. Pen was just created the right. So
everything that God created, he gave he created to do something.
Adam was created to run the world.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
He faltered, but he needed animals.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Come on, man, how did Adam come up with it's
a bear, it's a lion because he was created to
do that. And we all have gifts and all that
guests are not the same. But if you tapped into
your gift, you know what I'm saying. And your gift, Sean,
was motivation. You never probably thought that at the time,

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but you was motivating yourself in the midst of Man,
I can't do it, man, but you never faltered. That's
what I loved about you. I don't care what I
threw at you. You never faltered. You never back down
or like bring it on. So God already had that
in you when you was in Jacksonville. He was just
waiting for you to go to Maine to get it,

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to get it started.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I appreciate that, Coach. Yeah, man, we just getting started too. Man,
this ain't it. Man, T want to come back home. Hey, coach,
are you in Florida or you in Virginia.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
No, I'm in Virginia. But I still got that nine
on four number. You're not gonna change it.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
I'm seven five seven, but I still got that nine
on four. So you see the nine on four, you
think I'm in Florida and all I'm Virginia. But I
will get on ninety five and I'll meet you in Florida. Yeah, hey, hey, Miles,
don't separate. You know, the pandemic is slowing down a
little bit. We're moving around a little more and I'm,
you know, willing to travel and I'm going to travel

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around and around.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
So you know, longslow, give me breath.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
And he allowed me to be here an extra day
and I'm gonna I'm gonna serve.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Him in that capacity. Yeah, house Virginia for you.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Well, Virginia's home. I'm from Virginia.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I was born in Virginia, and so you know, I
got my kids here, and I got my family here,
and my aunt Sue, and my cousins and my wife
I've got her family, and so you know, I got
my grandkids here.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
So you know, life is good.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
And then my church are on here where I service
as social pastor at a Moucommon Baptist church. What I
want to get a shout out to doctor et Night,
my pastor who had motivated me and been praying for me.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Did the Lord continue to use me.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yes, sir, yes, sir, Well coach Man, Like I said, man,
it's a blessed to have you on the podcast.

Speaker 5 (27:26):
Coach.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I just want to bring you on kind of tell
some words of encouragement man. And like I said, man,
it's just an honor heavy of the podcast coach. Like
and you're a pastor, so I kind of wanted you
come on the podcast to let people know that again,
God wasn't born average, you know, he wasn't born to
be average. He was born to be great. And I
believe that we have a gift inside of us and

(27:48):
get the world. But you gotta believe in yourself, and
some believe you gotta believe in yourself what you believe
in yourself and live in your crift.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
The rest just take off.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Well, you know why, I have a oportunity that you know,
I just want to share with the listeners, to share
with the people that you know, God will love the
world that he said has only begotten son Jesus Christ,
that whosoever believe that if you're not perished but can
have everlast in life, you don't have to wake up
and die the same way you could. You can wake
up and know that you have eternal life through Him,

(28:20):
and life is not a being of roses. I'm not
saying that you accept Christ and you're going to have
this great life, but you can accept Christ and have
peace and enjoy and direction.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
And a lot of people don't have direction. A lot
of people don't have peace. It's not all about money, Sean,
not all about money, because you know, we blow, We
blow more money than we spend.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
That's why you got to become a consumer people. People
are more consumers than producers. And I think that you
should be a producer more than a consumer, and adopt
that mentality of being a producer because you're not really
saving money to consuming. You know what I'm saying, right,
I have a own cold brand now, so yeah, I
don't buy no more clothes. Man, I got my own clothes.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
That's her.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
So talking about saving man and doing the right things
and investing your money into yourself, investing your money into
God himself, and the rest is possible.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know, you just gotta make smart investments.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
People want to invest in themselves, and I tell people
all the time, nobody's want to invest in you.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
If you can't make that person investment in yourself.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Yes, sir, And everything is possible if you believe John. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
First of all, I believe it in yourself and believe
it in your own brand. In a lot of time,
we believe in what other people doing and we put
our money into to promote their business, spend our money
for them to get rich. You know what I'm saying.
How about spending your money so you can get rich?
You know what I'm saying. How about how about that?
How about you know, doing your own thing that you

(29:53):
can be happy with yourself. And I'm sure that the
fulfillment of AKA the Refresher is refresh you know what
I'm saying. I'm sitting here on your podcast, on your program,
excited to the tips about what the Lord has done
in Sean Jackson life because I knew you back when,

(30:14):
not back then, but back when, and it was just
a matter of time that you would be doing what
you been doing because you never faltered. I can't say
that enough, you know what I mean. So they only
know about you playing football. They don't even know about
you being a boxer. You know, they just see the
podcast and the AKA Refresher, But you you are what

(30:37):
an amazing athlete and pually still is they don't see
that part. We'll see you what the headphones on and
you inviting guests and you got me on and all
of that. But there's another dimension. There's another side to
Sean Jackson. I just want yours to know it. So
if there's a sports guy who want to come on
your broadcast like I'm doing and talk about sports, whether

(31:00):
you h in the NBA or in the National Football League,
Let's get some National Football League guys up here. Let's
get some NBA guys up here. Let's get let's get
TD Jakes up here, Let's get let's get some prominent
African Americans on your station, on your podcast in none
of the promote people. You know what I'm saying, to

(31:21):
do better with information now we help nothing one another.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I need some NBA players. I had two NFL players.
I had Tyrone Pool, two times Suit Bowl champion. My
brother shout out to him, by the way, my brother
Chris Rainey shout out to him too. My brother from Florida.
He played for the Pittsburgh Sillis and the Coats, and
I have a full time look at your champion. But
I need the NFL player, coach so if you know
any NBA players, let me know, send them my way, please.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Okay, So, look, I'm gonna put a little I'm gonna
put a little pressure on my friend. Put a little
pressure on my friend right now on this broadcast. His
name is Ronaldo Lamb. His son is Jeremy Lamb to
play in the NBA, and I'm gonna I'm gonna ask
him right here publicly. Hey, Bro Lamb, you need to
come on the show man. You're doing great things, sir,

(32:11):
you know what I'm saying. And then when Jeremy come
home or Jeremy ain't gotta come home, let's get Jeremy
from where he is to put him on this broadcast.
Bro Lamb, I'm gonna call you when I get off
and let you know what I've said and what I've done,
because we're in partnership together. He's another believer, al mighty
man of God, and I know that he wants to share.

(32:32):
As a matter of fact, he got this thing called
He's an America's character coach. Let me give me one
minute of your time.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
He put out a video every morning around six o'clock
for one minute. It is so powerful and I use
that in my promo with my players.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
So I am gonna ask them first and then if
you say no, Sean, I'm gonna beg him. If he don't,
then I'm gonna go over his house to get on.
I need to beg them some more to come on
your program.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Man, Hey, I forgot Man. Look, you played in the
NBA too, Now, coach, can't sell yourself short. So you
played for the Celtics.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Now, yeah, well that was a short stint. You know,
I'm not a household name, and I didn't get drafted,
and and I went through the you know, the camps
thing and and you know, and I and I played
a total of probably four games.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
But that was a part of my dream to play
at the highest level. And so most people don't even
know that story. They but they know the story that
I played fourteen years in the feeble. So I'm not
promoting the NBA because you know that's not you know,
especially back then, you know, they didn't have you know,

(33:47):
you know, videos, they you know, they didn't have Facebook
or or you know, nothing, so you couldn't see nothing
that people do. Let's you know that they were you know,
a big name but yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
there's some references to me and being there, but like

(34:08):
I said that that that was not the epitome of
my basketball career. That's just one of the stages that
I asked the Lord that I would have played the
higher level, and I played at every high level college,
high school, uh.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Pro A b A, Fever, Boonsliga, Church League, rent League,
pick up and you know, lea, I ain't never played
in family reunion, King's Dominion.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Shootering for teddy balls, anything around the ball, bouncing in
the backyard, on the corner down the street. Hey man,
it's it's just it's just exciting just to be a
part of a sport uh that I love and I
saw cherish and you know, uh sports Bill character too,

(34:59):
that's all the team sport.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
It builds a character. And so it helped me. It
became the man I am, and the Lord helped me
become a godly man.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
And it's a difference, yes, sir, yes, sir, So tell
tell the new viewers, man, tell the players that want
a good coach. Man, I really recommend this coach rights
all new ball players, even in May to travel.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Man, get on the flight and go travel to Virginia.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I'm not sure if you got a basketball team on
that coach man, but definitely tell the viewers man where
to reach you at, how to get your contact if
they want to play for your coach.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Well, you know you can.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
You know, you can google me Willypan's Basketball Power Camp
or Willypan's Basketball or you can google me.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
My phone number is nine four nine three zero eighty
five eighty five.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
And necessarily if you want some advice about basketball, or
you you want to get an opportunity to critique your
game or or or talk about the ways that you
can get better. And necessarily we don't have to be
in the gym just to have some contact. I know
whole lot of people you're trying to get overseas, or
you're trying to play in the ABA or the EBL

(36:09):
or or the G League or or or you've been
in China or Korea or Italy or wherever you play
basketball at and you come home for the summer, there's
the opportunities where all the basketball players good get into
the gym. You know, you don't get better by playing games,
You get better by working out. That's how you get better.

(36:31):
You get better in the summer. In the game that
you're playing, you're performing. You ain't practicing. So the guys
be on the bench and be hoping to get in
the game. I'm gonna say one more thing. The people
who start, they perform, and the guys on the bench
they don't play. The first thing they say, as the coach,
when I get in the game, I'm gonna shoot the ball.
They don't never stay about making it. They just shoot it.

(36:53):
And when they miss all the shots, they tell the guys, well,
I ain't making no shots. These are got your shots up.
That why you're on the bench because you're trying to
get shots up. The guys started to shot and they're
trying to make shots.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
It's a difference. It's a difference from a person who.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Played basketball and a basketball player. You don't have to
score to be great. Ask Dennis Robins. There's a lot
of players that's in the BA can't score. They can reround,
they can play d they hustle and they're active. It's
hard to get on the roster in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
It's hard. It is hard.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
So you see the guys on the bench and talking
about they can't play because they ain't playing come on,
you couldn't carry their drawers, couldn't carry their shoes.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
So the TV guy who's sitting.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
At the couch hollering at the TV, and you can't
play while you miss that layup and it's hard to.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Be playing for all other people. But you can't even breathe, Sean,
you're playing in front of twelve fifteen thousand people. The
area is thin. You can hype a ventilate pressure bus
pipes or make diamonds.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Damins this way.

Speaker 5 (38:03):
Hey, I can see it too, and you're blowing my friend,
Thank you, sir. I just man, I just been through.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I tell people in life it's never easy, you know,
and uh, you just gotta take it with a grain
of salt wet to put it in God hands. And
just how faith and work, you know, like you said earlier, work.
You know, faith and work goes together. Literally, it's a
beautiful combination faith works that they don't go without each other.
It goes together, you know. So we gotta work.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
You gotta have that faith.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
And that's all I kept doing, man, and just being resourceful,
you know, and being resourceful and just letting people know
and tell people my story and just never giving up
because the minute you give up, you gotta start all
over again. To just tell people to never give up
and just keep going, you know, just keep going, never
give up because once, like I said, it's gonna get difficult.

(38:53):
You know, the higher you get in life, it don't
get easier. You know, like literally everything rises together. That
are the haters, the bills, the finances goes at the
same time as you blow up. You know, some people
don't realize that you got to continue to have to
continue to work and never give up.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
And you know, I don't want to slight anybody, so
I want to get this shout out because there are
great women basketball players, great women basketball players, great women leagues,
great high school players, great college players. They are great
wreck players that are women. So it's just not all
to just men. There are women athletes that's great in

(39:35):
the Hall of Fame right now. There are women right now.
There's great players who shoot me under the table, Sean,
I'm talking trash ball. I'm the best shooter. But there's
some women out there that knock them down, not the
lights out and make a young brother cry one on one,
tear them up. There are the women out there. So

(39:55):
you're thinking This is just monopoly for a man sport
of basketball. Sean, they are great women basketball players. So
I coach women. I trained women too. I trained girls boys,
and basketball is not synonymous to gender.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
I mean I need to throw that in there too.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
You know you're right, this Leslie great phenomenal basketball player.
Kennis Parker. Brittany Grinder, she a beast by the way too. Yeah,
she said drunk on me. I'm saying that right now.
She's seven seven foot.

Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah, she she tall.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
And I gotta get a shout out to my girl. Cool,
sit of your cool cool. I gotta get a shout
out of her. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
I remember Coop could go Chryl sloops. You know what
I mean. Hey, there's a lot of women players out there.
That's great.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, my brother said, keep up a great work. Coach
is my brother Carrie Rivers.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
He's carry what's up?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Brother, He's a great entrepreneur.

Speaker 7 (41:04):
Man.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
I met carry off Clubhouse. It's an app.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
It's like a global app that I encourage everybody to download.
It's for Android and it's for an iPhone.

Speaker 5 (41:13):
You just too.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
It's called Clubhouse. He gives me all kinds of players.
I met Shack on the Shaq has an account on clubhouse.
A lot of retired NBA players on the clubhouse. Uh,
you won't see any current NBA players because you know
they monitored that social media stuff. Well, you see a
lot of retired NBA players, NFL players. I met Tyrone
Poole off clubhouse. So yeah, Carry River is a great guy.

(41:34):
He's he's a podcaster. I've been on this show and
he's a musician. He's just a businessman. He a great dude, coach.
Shout out to him.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Too, right, So how many how many women you they
had up here?

Speaker 6 (41:48):
Man?

Speaker 5 (41:50):
How many women they had on your show?

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I had like three queens on the show already. I
had Disco. She's a celebrity podcast.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
She's trying to trade, so I said, I said, oh no,
cause that might be in the making, because I know
I don't want to. I know one of his friends
address she came on the show. And I had a
queen named Andrea from Canada.

Speaker 5 (42:12):
She came on the show.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
So we global, you know, and so it's global.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Now, right, So you know that's shout out to our
women entrepreneurs, Shout out to our women athletes and shout
out to some of our women religious leaders that in
the area of athletics or youth pastor or or some
of these church leagues and and some of those things

(42:35):
where we promoting basketball for kids and and things of
that nature, where that everybody can hear about you and
get the opportunity to express about what they're doing. And hey,
touch one, reach one, So you touching me, that I

(42:56):
can reach out to touch somebody else because a lot
of people may not know what I'm doing, may not
could be with me every day because I'm not a
guy who's going to walk around with a big sign
on my back.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
But you never know.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
The comforty that you are in. Some people say, hey, man,
I need a job. Some people say I need a car.
But I'm telling you you are one person away from
making it, not one.

Speaker 5 (43:21):
Job away and that car one car away. I was
one person away to making it to heaven. And his
name is Jesus Christ. I met him change my life.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
So what I'm saying in that connotation, right, God uses people, John,
God is.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Using you.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
From the guttermost to the other most. Before we got
on and you said, let me share a little something.
You know what I'm saying, he said, you said the
time that.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
I was homeless when I came from Florida to Maine
for those five months.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
It elevated me. Sometimes we don't do stuff like we're
supposed to because I know for sure.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
You know what helped me change pain, Sean pain helped
me change well, my stomach was touching my back and
my jeans bowl pockets would touch it. Pain changed me.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Either change you or break you. So hey, hey, sometimes
it breaks people. Sometimes it changed people. Asked Bull, Chuck
asked him. He's from Virginia. He went through so much
stuff in Hampton and how they wanted a railroad him

(44:52):
and and he went to jail and all.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
That kind of stuff, through all of that pain. Georgetown
seventy six ers. Now, the answer is in.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
The Hall of Fame. Cut gracious, come on them, come
on them. And there's a lot of other stories of
that magnitude. And we got one from Portsmouth, Virginia right now.
He didn't go through as much as other people. You
know what I'm saying, But he played with the Mavericks
right now during Finney Smith Larzo morning. He's from Indian River,

(45:34):
He's from Chesapeake, he's in town this week doing some
things so Michael Vick, Mike Vick would do y'all know
what Mike Vick du Mike Vino TV.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
So you could rebound from things that was meant to
kill you and God could make you. Ray Lewis, that's
another person. So hey, come on, I'm not the only one.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Sean's not the only one.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
There's so many stories out there that people need to hear.
We need to be echoed. And I'm talking about African
American men because you know, we police up our own kind.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Sean, you know what I'm saying. I'm not saying it
well for any other ethnic group.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
You know what I'm saying, but we need to talk
and lift up our own kind that we can make
it and help other people make it too.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
I mean, if I'm saying something, reach to the screen
and just smack me. Nah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Coach Man, He's right, And we just gotta eliminate the
n I dja monset. I'm in the process of doing
that myself currently because I don't say that word. I
said King and Queen, so like nobody around me says
that word. So that's why people look at me and
I said, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
King, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (46:46):
Queen?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
They be like, but yeah, you are one roal.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
You know what I'm saying, I don't use our term,
So we can sorry about coming together as a community
and start saying our word because we are more than that.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
A lot of people don't know what I mean. Just
throw it around.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
And that's why people, that's how our people activate, we
act because we say that to each other.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
They don't know what that word really means. Now we
go smart in the streets.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
If I go back home in Florida and I go
to Tempa and like what's going on, key, They're gonna
get like I'm crazy.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Then I used to hearing that, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
So there's one thing right there, because we just gotta
change our mindsets as the people as a culture together,
you know, started supporting each other more.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
In my clothing brand, all my customers are Caucasians. I
got like a few black customers. Man.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
That's why it was. There's no hate to us that
I love. I love my Caucasian people.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
But I'm just saying, man, like, we can come together
as one and support each other brand and the.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Culture is one like look at look at look at
the Chinese people they doing it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
We can come together like the Chinese people doing it
man and just support each other's brands and businesses together
and grow each other.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Will be a better place, a culture will be better.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
You know, if you can give me a minute, So
then I want to get some shout out to some people.
This in my life.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
A Rodney m Kitchen Uh, A Reverend Mitchell, Uh, Douglas Preston, William.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
Crawley m m mm hmmm mm hmm. Place to go exactly.
It's I think you throws coaches, h m m. I

(48:43):
think my life doctor Melviowne.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Yeah, I'm back a year and now I'm back, Uh
Alice Graham Vale, Uh, Canards, Tonet and there there's there's
there's many more.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
There's many more, uh even Evans. I mean, I'm just
I'm just naming some names out. Uh.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
You know a lot of names allude to me right
now because I'm kind of like a little depression to
remember everything. I'm not as young as they used to be.
But there's a lot of people, uh that's out there
that I didn't do this alone. My aunt su you know,
my wife were Nayan, you know a lot of other people.
So I just thank God for the opportunity man, just

(49:27):
to share you know, this particular time.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Coach the way back, Like I said, well for you, man,
I wouldn't be where I'm at now as well, because
you at all people knew how I used to be
back in the day when I was living in Florida.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
During that time frame, I head for the South Coast Fire.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
I think my mom was my mom got in twenty eleven,
and I think I was playing for you before she
passed away or after she passed away.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Now it was after pass away.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
It was around thirteen fourteen, Sean, because you know you
still you were still was dealing with that. We had
a lot of conversation about that, and uh, you know,
we prayed about it and and you know, I said,
if if you feel in that way, you know, honor
your mother through work on honor you know, your mother

(50:18):
through commitment. Because a few times, Seanna, to be honest
with you, I had got mad at you because you
said you were going to be somewhere and then I
waited for you and you never came. You never called me,
and so I was upset. And then you came back
and said, coach, I'm I'm sorry I should have called you.
I was waiting at the gym we suppa have to

(50:40):
work out and you didn't show up.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
So you know, you can.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
You can lend people money, you can buy some people
to eat. You know you can get food back, but
you never can get time back. When you give time
to an individual, you give them a part of your life.
And you gave me a part of your life, and
I gave you a part of my life. And I
don't know how long we've been on this broadcast right now,

(51:03):
but we given each other part of our life right now,
and we'll never get this time back.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
So I'm saying to people on at the time, at
the time, you with people.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
I've done so many funerals that they didn't talk to
their family member and then they they die. They trying
to get all in the cast to get and all
of that. Give the people their flowers while they're living,
is why they're gone.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
You're gonna miss them.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
You don't miss nobody until they gone. And you take
people from granted, Sean when they're alive. Can't take people
for granted because you don't know if you're gonna be
here another day.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
I totally agree, totally agreeing. Well, that's that's that's that's
been a powerful show. Coach being on broadcast now for
about an hour and now coach Man, Yes, sir, yes,
sir Man. So coach, you have an Instagram or Facebook?
Is wee pond junior guys, So you're gonna get by
you at the bottom right there, guys, if you are
a play that needs to be out there your social

(52:03):
media as a presence. So definitely hit a coach Pond.
He's a great guy again seeing where he's gonna get
you right on the basketball for it, I promise you.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
In the last words, coach, yeah, I do have last word.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
I know, I know seing and this is not a.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Rigid a religious program and in this format, but it
would be really miss man if I didn't I didn't
clach this thing I did in prayer, men, and if
you arned me to do that, I would love to.

Speaker 5 (52:33):
Well let's pray there was hen to Father.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
We just thank you for this opportunity to glorify your name, God, God.
We asked you right now in the name of Jesus Lord,
if you've done anything on this broadcast and we said
some things that wasn't right.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
God forgive us. God forgive was of us say in
the past, President, in the future.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
God, God, this man right here, who's on this broadcast,
I asked you to couple in with your blood. God,
God help him to reach places that he never thought
he would allow him to help people that he never
thought he could help. Blessed is going in and Blessed's
going out. And there's anybody hearing on this time, My

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boyd to lon know Jesus in the bottom of the sinds.
This is an opportunity to accept Jesus Christ as your
personal sake. I steamed here proudly, and I'm not ashamed
of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Speaker 5 (53:23):
Seanna, thank you, and Jesus thinking to be pregnant.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Man, all right, Sean, Look we were on the broadcast, man,
but you know we're gonna keep hollering back. Man, Like
I said, you need something, man, you holler at your
boy all.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Right, Yes, sir, I got your.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
All right, all right, sir boy. Guys, that was Coach.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Pond's right there, guy who you guys enjoyed the show.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
That was a phenomenal so basing that was my guy
right there, guys, and again that's that's that's that's a
good differend of mine.

Speaker 6 (53:56):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Hope you guys know a little bit more about the
refreshing I used to be back in the day.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
You know, nothing's better than getting getting somebody who really
knows you to tell you about to tell you about me.
So definitely feels a great ava spot like that. So
guys tune in episode eight coming soon, Champions Podcast. We're growing.
We're growing, guys. We're getting some great gats on and
we're gonna continue to grow and go. So guys jump

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So thank you off of you on the show. I
love you all and take care