March 14, 2023 • 41 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
How we doing Facebook family. You know, it's your host
of speaking.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Out his podcast, brut and I'm excited to be back
here today with official guests. I met him on the
hour at the end of his name Shine and refresher
like you got so much going on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
When it comes to you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So that's why I tightened the sick not you, because
he catered me the youth like and that really made
me reach.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Out to him because I'm about encouraging the youth.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So Shine man, let them world know, man, where you're from, Like,
what you're about, what you staying for?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
My what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Sean Jackson might it's been a while, It's been a while, world,
but you know, coming back today here on seeking knowledge
to you know, speak about the youth and you know,
saving our youth and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Shout out to my brother the Market's user, you know,
inviting me onto the show, giving me an opportunity to
speak my knowledge. You know, some of you guys, I'm
talking about some real talk right now, you know, So
we need everybody shared this video me everybody to let
people know that me and the Market is online right now, guys,
because we doing the phenomenal show. We're talking about kids,
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our future, and how we're gonna say to youth.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So a little bit about myself.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm Sean Jackson, the refresher Well, Seawan, the refresher Jackson,
And you know, being able to overcome homelessness, the loss
of my mother, the loss of my father, the loss
of my grandfather, uh, the loss of so many other
loved ones in my family. Being able to turn my
pain into my passion, my pain to my purpose. You know,
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I want to do it for the same for the youth,
you know, growing up as kids. You know, back in
the day we have the ops and the hood to.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Lift and for somebody that's to learned. I like that,
you SA you turned your pain into your passion. I say,
I turned my pain into my purpose. Man, I like that, bro.
So I know you came a lot towards with you.
So what really made you start kaden towards to you?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Bro? Like, what made you go that route?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Like you?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But from me talking to you, I know you was
an atlett the box, you're an author, but you decide
to take the route of Stave And I you what
made you decide to go that round?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
This?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You know, just having children on my own, you know,
you know, I love.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Inspiring youth and I believe that once you become a parent,
you know, you automatically have to be the example, you know,
being parents. Man, Like our kids, kids are sponges, you know,
So whatever you do in life, I feel like your
kids going to want to be better than you. Want
to go after your dreams and goals. You know, one
thing my son told me, Elijah. I love him so much.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know, he.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Plays football, and I asked him, I said, son, who's
your favorite football player? Who's your favorite NFL player? He said, Dad,
You're my favorite player. And to me that that touched me. Man.
You know, so I had to redefine my mind and really,
you know, chase greatness, bro, because it starts with me.
You know what I'm saying. I want my son to
be great. I have to be great, you know. And
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it starts with the kids in the community as well too.
You know I say this all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Lebron James got his own kids to look up to,
you know. Kevin Durant got his own kids you look
up to. It's not for our kids to look up
to us. I'm saying the black kings of the community. Man,
you know, stuff like that. So that's why I turned
my direction towards the youth. You know, all cultures are bad,
don't get me wrong, but it's specifically in a black culture.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Was growing up, we don't get a lot of a
lot of love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And I felt like a lot of people deter away
from the bad children and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So we got to attack those.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Ones who are in the streets, man, and just go
out to them, man and change their mindsets.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And I like how you used to it. I like
what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Because me growing up back to youth, bro, I didn't
have no guidance like I even though I hate guidance,
what I didn't because I grew up in foster care,
but I was hanging. Definitely made me run to the street.
The father being in foster car so I ran to
the streets, start hanging in the streets, start doing things
I'm not proud of in the streets.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And I was a youth and I'm thinking, like I
made it out. I made it so.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Much in life, like I overcame a lot. So that's
why I really want to come back and care for
you because if you out heard that, probably hanging.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
In the streets and hanging around people just because they
don't have no fathercu in their.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Own or they mama always at work once for the time,
they mama doing the best she can to take care
take care of them, so the next thing they know,
if it's not school, they gonna turn to the streets. So, Bro,
I like how you are more care to the youth
because it's like, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We need because I look at it like I got kids, bro,
and now youth is the future.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
If we can't get the future together unless you know
the type of future we're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So how long you been doing doing your program, bro
and come to cater to the youth?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
How long you been doing that.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
For a while now, Man, I've been, you know, doing
that for a couple of years now.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I started when I was homeless.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It may you know, I gave my clothes off my
back and shoes off my feet because people don't have
much man. You know some of the kids you could
wear my shoes, you know. I took my shoes off
my feet and gave it to them. You know, I
took my hat. The same hat is literally the same
exact cat. Actually I gave it to somebody in the
Homer shelter. Man, I got the same hat back in
three different colors, you know, being able to bless them
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and see their faces and how they uplooked their spirits.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Man, because they ain't have anything. They didn't have.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Much, so when they got something nice, it really inspired them.
Like you know, give them and give them hope. You know,
that's all we can do nowadays, give people hope. And
that's what I love doing. Man.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's giving hope and let them, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And that's what I like doing, giving hope.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And I like how you said you went to the
homeless shepherd like I used to do that like at
home when I was playing out now I went to
homeless shelters. I didn't while it's passing food out or
passing clothes. When I was even staying in a shuster,
I was passing stuff out, like giving away my stuff,
like because I know how it is not a half.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But what's crazy, bro?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
When I was homeless back home, Bro, I didn't seen
so many youth bro, Like out there, I didn't see
like they are so young, man, not just young and
out there, they're young and on these drugs, bro, Like
it's really messing their life up. So that's why we
come in. That's why I want to come in. I
want to start where I'm at, Bro. But I got
to find the right people because I really want to
save our youth, bro, because I know a lot of
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you out here.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
They have potential, they know how to do right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's just they are wrong, wrong all the time because
this is what they see. Like you, if your environment
it's all you see. You become a product of your environment.
So I want to I'm here to if y'all got
kids out there who need inspiration, reach out to me. Man,
I can curage them like I can't. I'm not no
certified told CERI Man, Bro, I just love your movement.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Man. You're doing a good thing, Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So what's next for you? But I just want to
know what the refreshure?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like? What's next?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I know you working with a youth program, I know
you authors.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What's next though?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Writing I'm writing my new book as you speak down man,
writing a book. I'm sharing the video right now, man,
so we can get some more reviews in here. But
I just love I'm writing a new book that's coming
up next. Man, I got speaking engagements coming up, trying
to speak more on stages, you know, trying to get
more people inspired, get people going in the right direction,
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you know, I got I'm trying to put together a
youth program, you know, so that way youth can have
someone to look up to when they get out. You know,
one thing that we face growing up as as young
black men is that we able to get arrested or
get a charged.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And I was used against us for getting a job,
you know.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
So my goal is to create a platform with kids
who rest their lives, you know, is I can change
because some of those kids are good kids. Now all
of them. I said all kids, all of them, but
some of them are really good kids.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
All they need is the right guidance, man in the
right push. So that's that's what I'm tring to work
on now as well too, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that's good because like I have, I'm an author
as well, man, I was one time, get us in situation.
I'm gonna send you some of my books, bro, just
to pass off to the youth. Let them know, like
see because people don't realize when you're an author, when
you got like a two, that's that's that's how you
get it started. Like that's how you get your conversation story. So,
but I want to save our you, man, I might.
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I just want to save my kids.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I want to say everybody else kids that they got
to go outside.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And hang in the streets, hang with this person to
prove a point. Look, I'm gonna tell you all my
youth doing it. It don't make you a lame or
it don't make you less of a man.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
If you tell a person you don't want to hang
with them, or you don't want to hang in the streets,
so you want to take a different ron, they don't
make you weak.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's actually saving your life.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Because I don't know, like like what everything's going on.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's teenagers, like they it's they not really lasting long.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's like they not need to see eighteen nineteen twenty. Man.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So that's why I want to put some programs together,
whether it's have an out of the stuth, whether it's
taking the kids out of eat or going to the movies. Man,
I want to do more for the youth, man, because
growing up, I didn't have it, really have it. Man
and me growing up in East Saint Louis, Illinois, Brooklyn, Illinois,
it's like the Me and West. You don't really have
no inspiration. The only only thing you see is selling drugs.
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People fight. So I really had to figure out on
my own and had to figure out the route to
tape to become a better person. And when it's all
started about me finding different programs, going after you, so
going after school activity, just start being around the right people.
So when it comes out of you like you said,
they are they it's to get around the right people,
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because sometimes it's not what you know who you know.
And I and I'm pretty sure that every person you
met you, I'm talking with any adults because when I
first met you, Bro, you aspire me this off the
conversation like and you have every passionate about yourself. And
I never met a leader like so self just so humble,
bro like who really here.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
For the bro like you for the people, bro like
and we need.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
More men out her life than who not just out
for theyself, who really want to help people elevate. Bro,
You're doing to god right, I want to say, you're
doing everything you got going on, Bro, You're doing.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
A good jobs.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Want to they continue to shine, Bro, continue to be great, Bro,
continue to just elevate, Bro, because you're.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Doing a good thing when it comes to saving our youth. Bro.
Like especially because that's where it all started. Like once
you like I said, once kids come in the picture.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I once you be around your niece's nephews or not
even that, just every day life you Bro. I done
seen you talk her. Bro younger than me, but look
older than me, Bro, because some drugs take.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Control of them. Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like that was my lanes bro. Bro, because it's like
I ain't got no guidance, man, probably no guidance in
the home.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
What we gotta do, man, We gotta eliminate the n
I g g A mindset and bringing back the king mindset.
You know, I feel like I usually have lost their crown.
You know, they use that word as derogatory words so much,
you know what I'm saying, And they don't know they work.
You know, they think that the streets is the only way,
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you know, So I think that what we're doing now, man,
is you know, going out here doing podcasts, be out
here doing great things in the world.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're going to see that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Kids around our area, man, our community, go and see that,
you know, especially in your area. Man, Like, imagine a
kid coming up to you and saying, Hey, this is
the markets. I seen your podcasts or I heard the
podcast sir, that's so cool, Like could you show me
how to do that?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You know that's you know that's.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And you know what. It feel good like you just said,
like I ain't know a lot. It feel good like when.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You just doing some positive and like a kid a
knowledge you like, yeah, I know you, I know your story,
I know where you came from it you are, like
I love when kids come up to me Bro and
say that, oh might somebody read your book? Use somebody
told me something about you and I and you're very
operational life. And that's why Bro, I'm really trying what's
what's next for me when it comes saving on you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Bro, I'm trying to get in these schools to speak bro,
because I ain't a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Bro really got me started doing a podcast. And I
know you know this person.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Every time it's bro Et That's who got me podcast. Bro,
Like just hearing bro story like man, he got that
dog in them. Bro just hearing his story, like how
he was in Vanderbil slepting trash can.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, I said, slipting trash can.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He ate out of trash can, but he slept in
the Vanda Bill, Yeah, he probably. I'm looking at you
eat you know, y'all, Man, you inspire me. But that's
what really got me started. Really want to pay the
more to the new. So that's why I'm really trying
to get in schools, bro, Like I want to get
in schools.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Group home.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Even if I can just get a crowd bro where
I'm speaking to five you, I'm fine with it, bro,
because that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Bro. I want to save you, bro, because they up next.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Bro, if they up neck and they're not in the
right mind or don't have the right tools, you can
just a mess.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What type of life five they gonna go? That's gonna
be to the streets.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They gonna you tied in with the wrong people nine
times out of ten, and they probably not even gonna
make it to see twenty one.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm just being honest. How the world we live in now?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But look bro, dated future though. You know what I'm saying.
I tell people, if we want to change the world.
Got to think about it. You gotta think about we
get in our thirties and forties now, right, so by time,
by time, we getting our fifties and sixties. Right, the
kids now, the kids are kids now, gonna be in
their twenties, and that's the world we're gonna live in
as elders, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So it's only gonna get worse if you don't step.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Up now and change, you know, Like I want my
son to grow up in the safe environment in the
same future, I want to be able to walk out
my door at sixty five years old and not get
shot down on rob Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And that that's the way is going right now unless
we make a change, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So we need to make a change. And the change
starts with us.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And like everybody that's tapping in and listen this man.
Look if y'all got ideas of how we can save
our youth, man tap in man comment, because it's not
just us, it's everybody. We all need to come together.
Like that's a community, because it's one word. You find
a community if you break it down, you find a
word of unity. If we can come to get us
a community, we can unify ourselves and save our you.
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Let's do it, man, because I know a lot of
people got kids. Man, I know a lot of people
got kids that's doing the wrong thing. So let's come
together and save our you, man, because they up next.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
If they all heard lost, just think about it. The
generation that's gonna come behind them, they're gonna be even
lost because we did not get to say this this generation.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Like I said, man, it starts with the parents, starts
with the adults first. You know, I tough people all
the time. Man, you have to be phenomenal, be forgotten.
You know, we can't expect our kids to go out
here and be great if we don't lead the way.
It's all about being a true leader, you know what
I'm saying. I tell my son all the time. You know,
don't don't watch the next man, watch the best man.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And that's how you're gonna be successful in life and
growing life.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know that sounds like something I read up and
I'm reading this John Maxwell book on leadership, Man, that's
something he said up in there, like great leaders basically,
great leaders reach out to other great leaders exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Great leaders had a great follow.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You got to be a follower to be a leader,
you have to follow somebody that leads you down the
right path. So that's all we're trying to get the
youth to follow this right path.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And man and do right for it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Man, I'm not saying like I'm perfect, because I'm definitely not.
But I didn't make so many mistakes out here under
the sun. Like that's why I did. I wrote a
book up. But I'm not perfect, but my experience in
life really changed me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I want to do better, not just for my sister,
from my kids, and I like to inspire other kids. Bro.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Like I be rhying, bro if I see my teenager
or or you for someone called the street, but I'll
be like, man, look bro, ty your shoes up first
and make sure the street, make sure you look both ways.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Make sure you look both ways.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
From and bro, I love doing it. I love doing it.
I love spring telling them like, man, you don't got
to do that. You ain't gotta hang hang with this
person that don't mean you no good. I'll be telling
him I came from it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I came from this background, so I definitely how it is.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Excuse my friends forget trying to fit in, man, forget
trying to fit in.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You get more recognition when you stand up what you think. Bro.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
No, you're right, Bro, you get we get way more
respect if you you know, lead, lead by example. You
know I tell I told my son that, you know,
I told my son you ain't playing basketball, ain't playing football.
You got a scholarship at the University of Florida or
like University of Alabamba, the same.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Dudes in your hood that's clowning. You're gonna be loving you.
Oh Eli, Now you're going to Alabama? Man, that's what's up?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Then?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Bro? Like you?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, man like you know? You got the team to
find a better virsure of yourself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You would never ever be the best copy gap, which
it would be the best rsure of yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You gotta believe and have open this up, you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Know, And that's why I love my job man at
Braxts bro working with trouble youth. You know, you have
the opportunity to sit down, hands on and it really
talk to these kids and really get down to the.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Root of why they doing what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
You know a lot of these kids our only are
the men of the household, you know, don't have a
father figure in the household, and their mother's raising them,
you know, and they don't have that person to go
look to or talk to, you know what I'm saying,
so they turn to.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The streets the same man. I guess that was basically
my uh my story.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I ain't had no role model. I grew up in
fALS with care my big daughters. Man like the four
a little in it, like he was my my role model,
like anything, because I didn't have no daddy for me.
So it was like the only think I know, it's
a turn to the streets and come to find other people.
I was hanging in the streets, and they didn't really
I didn't really care about me. They didn't care about
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what I can do for them or what I can
do for them. So I really just this is myself, bro,
really just so I was trying to figure it out,
bro and and bro.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like I said, I even said, I was a lost duke. Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I caught a gun chow as an eighteen bro. I
called my first gun chow at the eighteen bro the
same year I graduated from high school. It's the same
year I called my gun charge. This when the year
I was in and out of trouble, in and out
of trouble, in and out of trouble. But I can
just say it's been over nine years since I got
in trouble. And I'm probably to say that because I
had to really wake up, because I got it. I
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was a dupe when I got in trouble. So if
I were to keep going down there passed you all
know my life in tunt I probably won't even be
sitting here telling my flod to be.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
On me exactly exact, proudly.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And what I think is, man, we gotta we got,
we gotta turn to focus on on all the youth
and not just specific youth, on all the youth. Like,
for example, I have an engagement coming up in Maine.
I gotta go back to Maine to speak at a
y m c A to a group of youth.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
But then you got the other youth like at my
job of brats you know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
That has to gun charges.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know has all different type of charges and dealing
with those kids different. But like like I said, we
able to reach every child. You ain't gonna reach every child,
but be able to reach some of them, man, and
make an impact in those kids' life and then tell
you to your face that you've been an impact in
your life. Makes you feel good, you know, just changing
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lives and period in general, man makes you feel good
as a person, you know what I'm saying. That's why
I love doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Like I said, I havesed to be from the hood too,
bro Like, I'm from from from Temple, Florida. Man born
in Temple, raised in Jacksonville, bro jack Town, Florida. You know,
I lived in Chicago for what more than five months,
you know, so, like my mom was yeah, you know
my mom she had sick aseelf, you know, so she
was in the hospital six months out the year.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
My dad was a drug dealer, so he was never home.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
So you can imagine being six and seven years old,
home by yourself, two kids, you know, never going to school, you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So but look, look look how your life crunk now.
I like, even if I feel like in life like
we might not play them, we not. We might not
depth ourselves from courts. We probably did deal ourselfs some courts,
But it's all about how you turn off. Like I said,
I came from the hood. I don't came from shootouts murders.
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I came from it. I can't like you can walk
in like fish wise, I stayed there. When I'm in
East Saint Louis, you can just walk. And they had
so much actify going on ear because it's a crypt
sick so you can just libby walk up there and
see your body or see somebody fighting. It's just ere
I came from. But I used it to get out, bro.
I used that as my my I use my pain
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for my purpose. That was my pain, bro, because I
was a youth like when I come in, so I
was done when I was going out.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
This, but I had to really like this is a
future I really.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Won't then, Like when my kids came in the pictures,
I was like, this, this is the future I really.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Want for them, even though some things going on with
my kids what I feel of them.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
But the youths our kids up there, ye cheers up
next man, Like how you said we got to cage
all of you because I heard you stay on the
in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Room and somebody was saying like I was not.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
A guy named but he was like he was talking
about the Bible and like how you shouldn't catered all
you but me. I'm just paraphrase for me personally. I
feel like I can talk to a thousand people. With
a thousand people, whether it's the youth, I'm gonna talk
to him. If they showed me, I'm gonna inspire them.
But I feel like if you're trying to say to
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you or saved anybody, you just can't pint certain time.
You gotta get all of them like you never know,
you might top for ten ten youth, ten teenagers, and
out of their team, you might get one or two
to be like you know what, bro, with your famis
that's a beautiful track. I hang it out no more.
So you got to cater to all of you, like
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all walks of life, whether you were raised in the church,
whether you raising a single parent home, was raised with
both of your parents, but he was raisedrom the tree,
but you dropped out of school to all of you, Bro,
that's how I look at it, Bro, It's how look
at life radicated to all of youth.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Bro. People don't see like that. People point tell certain.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Errors are certain people no man, look out. We need
to save all our youth, man, We need to save
all of them.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, some of them don't want to be saved. Some
of the don't want to be saved.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I say that, you know some of them, yeah, you
can tell for those ones who don't to be saved.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But those who want to be saved.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Man, I really feel like she's spend the time with
those who want to be saved, and then you know,
cherish those moments man. Like you know, my cousin, for example,
he's doing a ten year in bed right now in
president and I wish I was home with him because
that would never happens behind, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
So it's all about just being there, being the presidence.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
So that's why I said, man. As as parents, man,
I need to be there with my son. My son
lives in Florida. You know, my daughter lives in Maryland.
It's very vital for parents to be in their kids' lives.
Like I need to be in my son, like you know,
I'm going to be get me wrong, would be but
like you know, he's in Florida, and it's very vitals,
especially as fathers, bro as fatherless to be there, you
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know what I'm saying. Like for the boys, you know,
so because normally the boys turned to the streets, and
they turned to the homies who are not doing good,
and they turned to the influence, and that's how they
get caught up, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Like I got caught up, man.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But I'm like I said, I'm grateful that I ain't
been in trouble in nine years, bro and counting. That's
why I'm trying to get into a lot of things
like cater to the youth. And I feel like it's
don't get me wrong, I'm not throwing out shot. It's
some adults I heard that need some some training too,
Don't get me wrong, because like we said, they started
with the parents and the kids, and one time, kids
they imit. Take what they see, they do what they see.
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They don't they don't. You ain't got to tell them
to dude. They see you doing this and they don't
feel like, oh yeah, he's doing this right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So and that's when I forget.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Like my brother, I say, since I was eighteen, I'm
thirty six, thirty seven, and that was my inspiration.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Like I went through Fox Curry.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
We went to Fox Curry and that was my inspiration, bro,
Like looking up to him hanging in the street.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So I was like, I'm gonna go to school. I'm
gonna go to work.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But when I get back, when I get done, I'm
hanging in the streets. I'm gonna do what I want
to do, and I'm gonna still get up and go
to school. I'm still I'm still get him to go
to work. But it's like, even though I thought I
was doing something right, it's like I was still.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Spending more time in the streets, hanging around and around.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So I really had to be like, you know what,
I started changing my thinking, bro, I started changing the
way I think that, I started changing the people I
hung around, and I gotta start changing the places I
started going. And Bro, like, I'm proud to say, Bro,
I ain't been back home a few years now, but
like eight or nine years or since I been back home.
But I'm happy with my decisions the more the as
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far as I go.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And no, I'm not acting better in life, And no,
I don't think I'm better than nobody. Just I make
better decisions. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I agree, you changed your mindset. Everything about you changed.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, And they got to get the youth to
do to change their mindset.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
They you know what it was probably met growing up
watching all these gains, the movies like Belly or I
don't know, all these movies out here.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You're thinking like, hey, I want to live that life,
so you start putting it in your mind like it's
ho forul the turn along nobody. The money started with
me like watching movies and trying to go.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Out there like this life. And she started going out
there doing what I see in these movies.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Because I'm thankty bro. When I was young. Bro, it's
a lot of stuff I.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Did that I didn't get comfortable real and I'm grateful
because I.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I want to leave her, bro.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So that's why I really want to say, ay you,
that's what I really want to you. If I can
change the person, bro, change their mind.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I felt like I did my job.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, like I said, and again like he's never saying,
definitely charged with the adults, you know, we gotta start
to taking accountability man.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Having self disciplined.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know, if people look at self disciplined as a negative,
as a negative thing, it's really not. You know, self disciplined,
you your self love stuff like that. You gotta teach
our kids to love them, love themselves. You gotta teach
our kids to be there like you know, show them
that self discipline and stuff like that. Man being able
to do things and get it done without somebody tells
them to do it, you know, and stuff like that,
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Like I teach my son's self discipline. You know, get
up and go and work out. You love basketball, you
love football. You know, go out there and work out
with your friends who play basketball, play football. You know,
I've had this play. Go out there and train every
single day because you intend. You know, you're ten years old.
So imagine where you'll be at in ten years and
you continue to train now and work on your craft. Now,
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how far you'll get turn twenty when you get eighteen.
You know, how great and how phenomenal you would be
because you put it in the.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Time and effort and work in your craft right now,
you know.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And that's the only why we talk to you, bro,
because you like you're very with your program, like you
have stuff in place twellwing you that's allowing you a
loss in the CDs because it's not nothing place like,
it's not no more at the school program. It's not
no more. You can hang out of school. The teacher
go to We said, like I was in the work
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program when in the ninth grader's call. We said it
was a work program the name, but I don't remember
what the word now for what it was called, we
see it was programs out there. Don't get me wrong.
It was a lot of programs out there when I
was growing up after youth, but it was me decided
like I don't want a fire and do this. I
didn't want to do this, hang in the street do this.
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But I'm still going over there. I'm setting my youth. Man,
y'all gotta do this and do this. I could just
get on the possible pet now like like, bro, your son,
you can work out every day by the time he
had eighteen, Like if y'all just do some positive now,
by the time y'all get our age for whatever, man,
y'all be set. Like it took me a long time.
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I had to bump my head a couple of times,
like I had to sit down. The time I had
to bump my head, I had to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Ask was I had to give a couple.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Of ass but at the same time, like or are
you just coming up on us?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
If they got the right people in.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Their life's fine, I'm like, man, you can put that
gun down. You don't make you less of in the
house that don't make the best up it. Man, you
ain't got to hang out and still we hit next. Bro,
you ain't got I'm telling you don't got to do that.
So all my youth that is doing there, don't tap in.
Y'all ain't got to say it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Man. Y'all ain't got to talk. Man.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
That ship ain't cool. Man, they don't have move. Excuse
my customer. But that's only good in the movies because
I heard it get real. I heard them get real,
like when you get hit. But whatever it's real, I
her it's not. No, it's acting. It's a fake bullet.
Now Thursday, I'm telling y'all, man, get off on streets.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Man. If y'all drop out of school, I'm telling my
youth go back to school. Man. If y'all don't want
to know what's next, I want to go to college. Man,
get a job. Man, figure out what you're good at,
whatever you have to do. But man, leave them streets alone. Man,
I'm street big.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
But when the whole word be focused. That's why I
tell my son, when the whole world is struck, that
you be focused.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You know crazy, Brocaus the news they do put a
lot of negativity on her and it'll make you fearful.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But me, I don't watch them. I don't watch it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I just want to make sure you, Bro, I want
to make sure they do. I said, my kids Illinois
I believe, wanted me taught me Illinois want to Maryland believe.
But while I'm here, where I'm at, man, if I
see you, bro, like, why are we going outside playing
with her three kids?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I was like, man, you got.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Some beautiful kids. Like it's like she's a mom to
make sure her kids don't end up in the fit.
So I respect a single mom for single dances if
doing anything, I respect them because I don't know your
situ waiting, but I know you trying to do something
for your to have a better future.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's been a great conversation, Bro. Anything else you want
to share.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Man, I can go man when it comes out you bro,
I can talk all day. Like we need to get programs, man,
Like why I'm said as they had the boys and
girl clubs. Man do stuff like that, man, Like get
you a lot of y'all eight team and you go
get your membership, like worked out being a gym while
you are trying to hang in. Go to the gym
and work out, like, find you a place, got a track,
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a track and run around the track, man, like do
some pods or everything. You gotta hang around your home boys,
because at the end of the day, I'm gonna be
really at the end of the day, all these people,
y'all callyall homeboys.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Soon that heat turn up like birds, they're gonna be
nowhere insight.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, you right about that, man.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That's why it's that's why it's very vital to have
people that's gonna, you know, throw logs on your fire,
you know, like what'sliff stat You know, look at your
last five text messages.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
All those people throwing logs on your fire or be
pissing on.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And it's just very vital man, to really surround yourself
around people who's gonna uplift you and for your cup.
You know, if they're not feel your cup, they don't
deserve to be around you.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Everybody doesn't deserve to be around you.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
And for the kids did to realize that, you know,
everybody doesn't deserve to be around them like they have
their own unique power. You know, they think that they
have to be around friends and be cool. Being cool
is having your own having your own businesses, you know,
having your own connections, being able to travel to the
United Kingdom, like me, Bro, I can go to the
UK and get mad love in the UK, you know,
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make one phone calls like your rage. What's up my brother?
I mean, I'm in the UK, the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's to me, that's you ain't gotta say bro when
you say UK, that's London, Bro, Yeah, that's the company.
I just my I have a look, I know somebody
in the UK.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Bro. I look, look, I look.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I like connecting with people all over the world, not
just in the same Look have it, bro? I got yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know not.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Now you can say you're a boss because you can
go in any country and be known and get mad
love as soon as you pull up, you know what
I'm saying. That to me, that's it's really I told
my kids that Bractice. I said to y'all, able to
go to different countries and get mad love from different countries,
they consider itself a boss.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Being in the streets, being the hood doesn't make you
a boss, man.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I'm telling you that, right now going out and making
an impact and influence others to be great. That's what
makes you a boss, you know what I'm saying, having
your own and encourage you others to go out there
and get.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Their own exactly And this what and you said it
bro A lot of these out here probably looking looking
looking up to their big home whatever they call them
these days. I just call them big homies. And they
looking for them like and this, like they got us?
This who got them?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Like? This is what they see, Like my big You're.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Gonna ride for me, You're gonna look out for me
when I get locked up. You're gonna put my book,
You're gonna put money on my coming sire. I'm gonna
take this charge for him. I'm gonna tell you how
the people thought what I hung around growing up. I'm
gonna take this choice for him because he don't he gonna.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Look out for me, you know he am Oh yeah,
we like he gonna he knows you young, you know
you gullible.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So they keep people around like because I'm gonna be honest,
I kept from you with me drawing, I kept from
you going to catch around me like that because I
knew they were TDG.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
They were praying to go. But I'm not with all that.
I'm telling y'all. If y'all got to think y'all got
a big homy man.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
They not your big comany man. They just they not
gonna look out for your life, real Kirk.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
How much money they put on your book, they're only
doing it because they need you when he when you
get out. Exactly, I learned her in the free man.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So that's why I want to get miny youth up
because he bro like And like I said, I ain't
got the resources right not ship, but I do know
I have a much character for you like man.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
They so lost on her bro like man.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Keep working, keep working, man, keep working.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I encourage your other book. You know, if you get
a book out, I'm going buy your book. But that's
the first step right there, man, is have your book out.
Once you got a book out, you can't really go
anywhere with that book, and especially go speak on stages
like to these schools and stuff like that. Having a book, man,
sets you off from so many areas, man, because now
you can go to a school and speak and then
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show your book and the school might say, hey, I
look the way you spoke read your book, and now
the school might invest and buy books and put your
books in their school because the way you spoke.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
To the kids.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And that's crazy because my publisher, that's basically the route. Like,
that's basically the route on mown now. Like I'm trying
to become a boy trying. I want to become a
life transformational.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Coach and.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Bro, that's what I want to do. I want to
inspire for before I expire. So I really want to
pay it. But I really want to focus more on
you though. Even though we got a doubt, I heard.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
They need someone tweaking up and fix. But it's really
towice for youth. Bro. So I'm trying to get a
good home. Boy.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I want to get in group homes. I run up shelters, Bro.
I really I sent them. I even sent on the corner.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Bro. I just want to bro like I got to start, Bro,
and I know it's time. Bro. Like I ain't a lie.
I left my good bro like job.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I was that I don't work on nine to five
because I want to focus more on I want to
focus more on what need to be focused.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
On, Bro. But I really want to focus more.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
On our youth, bro, like for real, because like I said,
I was a lost I was a loss seed. If
I ain't getting myself together, I wantn't even be here
like I was lost, lost in the saut. But I
wasn't always lost. I always had a good mindset. It's
just when you got a good mindset hanging the wrong
wrong people. When you so people you need love. People
can manipulate you, bro, They can get in your mind.
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A lot of people got in my mind, bro to
do this, do this this, and I just started getting
people in mind and having him to do this. I'm
talking people way younger than me. So I know how
you feel like you gotta you feel like they gotta
fit in or they got a proof a point. Are
this time to get my strik? You really want to
get stripes, go to school, go to college, and college
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not for you.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Work a job. If you want to be a business,
own to write a book, sort of clothing line. You
get more strikes by doing that because you your strikes
will go far than just the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
How you get more than strikes, man, you get a
lifetime of a lifetime of respect. You know when you
lead us earth, you know your book is still gonna
be here. You know, we lead us Earth, your clothing line,
clothing brand. People who bought your clothes still gonna have
those clothes.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So even though you off this Earth, You're still gonna
be here because your presence is here, you.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Know, anything save from close out. I don't want to
end this conversation, but I know you're a busy man.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And you know you're busy to the world.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Ah now, just being tuned, guys, you know, Champions can
coming back, more guests and having the markets on Champions Connect.
It felt good on his podcast, guys, just his podcast
called Seeking Knowledge. You guys mentioned you go subscribe show
love to my Man's podcast and for the Refresher myself.
You know, guys, just being too you know, I got
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more guests coming and I'm gonna get back to doing
my my podcast. We have a few guests coming in
the room. Few youths come in the room. We just
appreciate the guys. We're just talking about saving our youth
and just trying to refresh adults. That's my nickname, the Refresher, right,
So yeah, yeah, I gotta we gotta, we gotta refresh
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these adults. Man we gotta let people know, man, like
you gotta come together as adults, you know, and really
get the adults right before we get the kids right.
We can't get the kids right and we can't get
the adults right. So that's why I love that we
did this. You know what I'm saying. I love that
we did this. You know, hopefully some people heard this
and really got the message, man, because again it starts with.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Us, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
And uh and and I mean, I love is something.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's neutral, bro, like support chimpion podcasts, you know, support
him everything got going on man. He on social media,
that's John Jackson looking man. Support him, man, because broke
for him.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
To overcome my line and come from the hood.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Man, he really used the hood and he he changed, man,
and he aspired me to be honest like real like
you aspired bro, just like the way you get up
and he of yourself.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
And I had to really give me a I got
me a routine now, Bro, I wake up and follow
a little routine now, so you aspire me.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
When I pick you, was like, yeah, I find to
go work out or I'm doing this. That's inspiration. Bro.
Continue to be great. But I'm done and talking.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Just you remember this last one, last quote.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Man, how you dress is how you will be a dress.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
How you dress would be how you dk And I
tell people that you got you gotta dress what I
tell people that you gotta address the part.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So if you felt to go to interview, you know
you're not to get no job interview with no.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
T shirt on and no stress jean and listen up
something some place you can get a job like that,
but you gotta.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Address the part.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Bro, I'm done.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Other than that, Man, you got any close the words
for the people.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Man fight ended matters one of y'all to say. Man,
y'all be.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Blessed no matter what y'all going through. Y'all see the
possial and every situation. And Man, I don't matter what
y'all you're going through. Man, y'all kids going going through
be there for man, because sometimes all they need is
to listen to earth Man.
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Go subscribe, guys, So love and be coming back. We
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Speaker 1 (40:59):
We got our power.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And you know this is real talk right here, guys,
This is real talk, no baby talk. We here showing
love to everybody, guys. So we get to inspire all homeless,
bad kids, good kids, grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers, fathers, all of that, guys.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
So just tap in show love. Other than that, that's
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Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm dying by fine to be here in the broadcast
How we doing Facebook family. You know, it's your host
of speaking.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Out his podcast, brut and I'm excited to be back
here today with official guests. I met him on the
hour at the end of his name Shine and refresher
like you got so much going on.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
When it comes to you.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
So that's why I tightened the sick not you, because
he catered me the youth like and that really made
me reach.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Out to him because I'm about encouraging the youth.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So Shine man, let them world know, man, where you're from, Like,
what you're about, what you staying for?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
My what's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Sean Jackson might it's been a while, It's been a while, world,
but you know, coming back today here on seeking knowledge
to you know, speak about the youth and you know,
saving our youth and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You know.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Shout out to my brother the Market's user, you know,
inviting me onto the show, giving me an opportunity to
speak my knowledge. You know, some of you guys, I'm
talking about some real talk right now, you know, So
we need everybody shared this video me everybody to let
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our future, and how we're gonna say to youth.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
So a little bit about myself.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I'm Sean Jackson, the refresher Well, Seawan, the refresher Jackson,
And you know, being able to overcome homelessness, the loss
of my mother, the loss of my father, the loss
of my grandfather, uh, the loss of so many other
loved ones in my family. Being able to turn my
pain into my passion, my pain to my purpose. You know,
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I want to do it for the same for the youth,
you know, growing up as kids. You know, back in
the day we have the ops and the hood to.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Lift and for somebody that's to learned. I like that,
you SA you turned your pain into your passion. I say,
I turned my pain into my purpose. Man, I like that, bro.
So I know you came a lot towards with you.
So what really made you start kaden towards to you?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Bro? Like, what made you go that route?
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Like you?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But from me talking to you, I know you was
an atlett the box, you're an author, but you decide
to take the route of Stave And I you what
made you decide to go that round?
Speaker 4 (02:17):
This?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
You know, just having children on my own, you know,
you know, I love.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Inspiring youth and I believe that once you become a parent,
you know, you automatically have to be the example, you know,
being parents. Man, Like our kids, kids are sponges, you know,
So whatever you do in life, I feel like your
kids going to want to be better than you. Want
to go after your dreams and goals. You know, one
thing my son told me, Elijah. I love him so much.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
You know, he.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Plays football, and I asked him, I said, son, who's
your favorite football player? Who's your favorite NFL player? He said, Dad,
You're my favorite player. And to me that that touched me. Man.
You know, so I had to redefine my mind and really,
you know, chase greatness, bro, because it starts with me.
You know what I'm saying. I want my son to
be great. I have to be great, you know. And
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it starts with the kids in the community as well too.
You know I say this all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Lebron James got his own kids to look up to,
you know. Kevin Durant got his own kids you look
up to. It's not for our kids to look up
to us. I'm saying the black kings of the community. Man,
you know, stuff like that. So that's why I turned
my direction towards the youth. You know, all cultures are bad,
don't get me wrong, but it's specifically in a black culture.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Was growing up, we don't get a lot of a
lot of love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
And I felt like a lot of people deter away
from the bad children and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So we got to attack those.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Ones who are in the streets, man, and just go
out to them, man and change their mindsets.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And I like how you used to it. I like
what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Because me growing up back to youth, bro, I didn't
have no guidance like I even though I hate guidance,
what I didn't because I grew up in foster care,
but I was hanging. Definitely made me run to the street.
The father being in foster car so I ran to
the streets, start hanging in the streets, start doing things
I'm not proud of in the streets.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And I was a youth and I'm thinking, like I
made it out. I made it so.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Much in life, like I overcame a lot. So that's
why I really want to come back and care for
you because if you out heard that, probably hanging.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
In the streets and hanging around people just because they
don't have no fathercu in their.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Own or they mama always at work once for the time,
they mama doing the best she can to take care
take care of them, so the next thing they know,
if it's not school, they gonna turn to the streets. So, Bro,
I like how you are more care to the youth
because it's like, that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
We need because I look at it like I got kids, bro,
and now youth is the future.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
If we can't get the future together unless you know
the type of future we're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
So how long you been doing doing your program, bro
and come to cater to the youth?
Speaker 1 (04:56):
How long you been doing that.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
For a while now, Man, I've been, you know, doing
that for a couple of years now.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I started when I was homeless.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It may you know, I gave my clothes off my
back and shoes off my feet because people don't have
much man. You know some of the kids you could
wear my shoes, you know. I took my shoes off
my feet and gave it to them. You know, I
took my hat. The same hat is literally the same
exact cat. Actually I gave it to somebody in the
Homer shelter. Man, I got the same hat back in
three different colors, you know, being able to bless them
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and see their faces and how they uplooked their spirits.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Man, because they ain't have anything. They didn't have.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Much, so when they got something nice, it really inspired them.
Like you know, give them and give them hope. You know,
that's all we can do nowadays, give people hope. And
that's what I love doing. Man.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's giving hope and let them, you know.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
And that's what I like doing, giving hope.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
And I like how you said you went to the
homeless shepherd like I used to do that like at
home when I was playing out now I went to
homeless shelters. I didn't while it's passing food out or
passing clothes. When I was even staying in a shuster,
I was passing stuff out, like giving away my stuff,
like because I know how it is not a half.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
But what's crazy, bro?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
When I was homeless back home, Bro, I didn't seen
so many youth bro, Like out there, I didn't see
like they are so young, man, not just young and
out there, they're young and on these drugs, bro, Like
it's really messing their life up. So that's why we
come in. That's why I want to come in. I
want to start where I'm at, Bro. But I got
to find the right people because I really want to
save our youth, bro, because I know a lot of
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you out here.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
They have potential, they know how to do right.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's just they are wrong, wrong all the time because
this is what they see. Like you, if your environment
it's all you see. You become a product of your environment.
So I want to I'm here to if y'all got
kids out there who need inspiration, reach out to me. Man,
I can curage them like I can't. I'm not no
certified told CERI Man, Bro, I just love your movement.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Man. You're doing a good thing, Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
So what's next for you? But I just want to
know what the refreshure?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Like? What's next?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I know you working with a youth program, I know
you authors.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What's next though?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Writing I'm writing my new book as you speak down man,
writing a book. I'm sharing the video right now, man,
so we can get some more reviews in here. But
I just love I'm writing a new book that's coming
up next. Man, I got speaking engagements coming up, trying
to speak more on stages, you know, trying to get
more people inspired, get people going in the right direction,
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you know, I got I'm trying to put together a
youth program, you know, so that way youth can have
someone to look up to when they get out. You know,
one thing that we face growing up as as young
black men is that we able to get arrested or
get a charged.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And I was used against us for getting a job,
you know.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
So my goal is to create a platform with kids
who rest their lives, you know, is I can change
because some of those kids are good kids. Now all
of them. I said all kids, all of them, but
some of them are really good kids.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
All they need is the right guidance, man in the
right push. So that's that's what I'm tring to work
on now as well too, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that's good because like I have, I'm an author
as well, man, I was one time, get us in situation.
I'm gonna send you some of my books, bro, just
to pass off to the youth. Let them know, like
see because people don't realize when you're an author, when
you got like a two, that's that's that's how you
get it started. Like that's how you get your conversation story. So,
but I want to save our you, man, I might.
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I just want to save my kids.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Man.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I want to say everybody else kids that they got
to go outside.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And hang in the streets, hang with this person to
prove a point. Look, I'm gonna tell you all my
youth doing it. It don't make you a lame or
it don't make you less of a man.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
If you tell a person you don't want to hang
with them, or you don't want to hang in the streets,
so you want to take a different ron, they don't
make you weak.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
It's actually saving your life.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Because I don't know, like like what everything's going on.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Man.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's teenagers, like they it's they not really lasting long.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's like they not need to see eighteen nineteen twenty. Man.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So that's why I want to put some programs together,
whether it's have an out of the stuth, whether it's
taking the kids out of eat or going to the movies. Man,
I want to do more for the youth, man, because
growing up, I didn't have it, really have it. Man
and me growing up in East Saint Louis, Illinois, Brooklyn, Illinois,
it's like the Me and West. You don't really have
no inspiration. The only only thing you see is selling drugs.
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People fight. So I really had to figure out on
my own and had to figure out the route to
tape to become a better person. And when it's all
started about me finding different programs, going after you, so
going after school activity, just start being around the right people.
So when it comes out of you like you said,
they are they it's to get around the right people,
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because sometimes it's not what you know who you know.
And I and I'm pretty sure that every person you
met you, I'm talking with any adults because when I
first met you, Bro, you aspire me this off the
conversation like and you have every passionate about yourself. And
I never met a leader like so self just so humble,
bro like who really here.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
For the bro like you for the people, bro like
and we need.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
More men out her life than who not just out
for theyself, who really want to help people elevate. Bro,
You're doing to god right, I want to say, you're
doing everything you got going on, Bro, You're doing.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
A good jobs.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Want to they continue to shine, Bro, continue to be great, Bro,
continue to just elevate, Bro, because you're.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Doing a good thing when it comes to saving our youth. Bro.
Like especially because that's where it all started. Like once
you like I said, once kids come in the picture.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I once you be around your niece's nephews or not
even that, just every day life you Bro. I done
seen you talk her. Bro younger than me, but look
older than me, Bro, because some drugs take.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Control of them. Bro.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Like that was my lanes bro. Bro, because it's like
I ain't got no guidance, man, probably no guidance in
the home.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
What we gotta do, man, We gotta eliminate the n
I g g A mindset and bringing back the king mindset.
You know, I feel like I usually have lost their crown.
You know, they use that word as derogatory words so much,
you know what I'm saying, And they don't know they work.
You know, they think that the streets is the only way,
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you know, So I think that what we're doing now, man,
is you know, going out here doing podcasts, be out
here doing great things in the world.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They're going to see that.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Kids around our area, man, our community, go and see that,
you know, especially in your area. Man, Like, imagine a
kid coming up to you and saying, Hey, this is
the markets. I seen your podcasts or I heard the
podcast sir, that's so cool, Like could you show me
how to do that?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
You know that's you know that's.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
And you know what. It feel good like you just said,
like I ain't know a lot. It feel good like when.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You just doing some positive and like a kid a
knowledge you like, yeah, I know you, I know your story,
I know where you came from it you are, like
I love when kids come up to me Bro and
say that, oh might somebody read your book? Use somebody
told me something about you and I and you're very
operational life. And that's why Bro, I'm really trying what's
what's next for me when it comes saving on you.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Bro, I'm trying to get in these schools to speak bro,
because I ain't a lot.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Bro really got me started doing a podcast. And I
know you know this person.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Every time it's bro Et That's who got me podcast. Bro,
Like just hearing bro story like man, he got that
dog in them. Bro just hearing his story, like how
he was in Vanderbil slepting trash can.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I mean, I said, slipting trash can.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He ate out of trash can, but he slept in
the Vanda Bill, Yeah, he probably. I'm looking at you
eat you know, y'all, Man, you inspire me. But that's
what really got me started. Really want to pay the
more to the new. So that's why I'm really trying
to get in schools, bro, Like I want to get
in schools.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Group home.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Even if I can just get a crowd bro where
I'm speaking to five you, I'm fine with it, bro,
because that's what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Bro. I want to save you, bro, because they up next.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Bro, if they up neck and they're not in the
right mind or don't have the right tools, you can
just a mess.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
What type of life five they gonna go? That's gonna
be to the streets.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
They gonna you tied in with the wrong people nine
times out of ten, and they probably not even gonna
make it to see twenty one.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I'm just being honest. How the world we live in now?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
But look bro, dated future though. You know what I'm saying.
I tell people, if we want to change the world.
Got to think about it. You gotta think about we
get in our thirties and forties now, right, so by time,
by time, we getting our fifties and sixties. Right, the
kids now, the kids are kids now, gonna be in
their twenties, and that's the world we're gonna live in
as elders, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So it's only gonna get worse if you don't step.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Up now and change, you know, Like I want my
son to grow up in the safe environment in the
same future, I want to be able to walk out
my door at sixty five years old and not get
shot down on rob Bro.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And that that's the way is going right now unless
we make a change, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
So we need to make a change. And the change
starts with us.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
And like everybody that's tapping in and listen this man.
Look if y'all got ideas of how we can save
our youth, man tap in man comment, because it's not
just us, it's everybody. We all need to come together.
Like that's a community, because it's one word. You find
a community if you break it down, you find a
word of unity. If we can come to get us
a community, we can unify ourselves and save our you.
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Let's do it, man, because I know a lot of
people got kids. Man, I know a lot of people
got kids that's doing the wrong thing. So let's come
together and save our you, man, because they up next.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
If they all heard lost, just think about it. The
generation that's gonna come behind them, they're gonna be even
lost because we did not get to say this this generation.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Like I said, man, it starts with the parents, starts
with the adults first. You know, I tough people all
the time. Man, you have to be phenomenal, be forgotten.
You know, we can't expect our kids to go out
here and be great if we don't lead the way.
It's all about being a true leader, you know what
I'm saying. I tell my son all the time. You know,
don't don't watch the next man, watch the best man.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And that's how you're gonna be successful in life and
growing life.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
You know that sounds like something I read up and
I'm reading this John Maxwell book on leadership, Man, that's
something he said up in there, like great leaders basically,
great leaders reach out to other great leaders exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Great leaders had a great follow.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
You got to be a follower to be a leader,
you have to follow somebody that leads you down the
right path. So that's all we're trying to get the
youth to follow this right path.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And man and do right for it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Man, I'm not saying like I'm perfect, because I'm definitely not.
But I didn't make so many mistakes out here under
the sun. Like that's why I did. I wrote a
book up. But I'm not perfect, but my experience in
life really changed me.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I want to do better, not just for my sister,
from my kids, and I like to inspire other kids. Bro.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Like I be rhying, bro if I see my teenager
or or you for someone called the street, but I'll
be like, man, look bro, ty your shoes up first
and make sure the street, make sure you look both ways.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Make sure you look both ways.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
From and bro, I love doing it. I love doing it.
I love spring telling them like, man, you don't got
to do that. You ain't gotta hang hang with this
person that don't mean you no good. I'll be telling
him I came from it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I came from this background, so I definitely how it is.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Excuse my friends forget trying to fit in, man, forget
trying to fit in.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You get more recognition when you stand up what you think. Bro.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
No, you're right, Bro, you get we get way more
respect if you you know, lead, lead by example. You
know I tell I told my son that, you know,
I told my son you ain't playing basketball, ain't playing football.
You got a scholarship at the University of Florida or
like University of Alabamba, the same.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Dudes in your hood that's clowning. You're gonna be loving you.
Oh Eli, Now you're going to Alabama? Man, that's what's up?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Then?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Bro? Like you?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, man like you know? You got the team to
find a better virsure of yourself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
You would never ever be the best copy gap, which
it would be the best rsure of yourself.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You gotta believe and have open this up, you.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Know, And that's why I love my job man at
Braxts bro working with trouble youth. You know, you have
the opportunity to sit down, hands on and it really
talk to these kids and really get down to the.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Root of why they doing what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
You know a lot of these kids our only are
the men of the household, you know, don't have a
father figure in the household, and their mother's raising them,
you know, and they don't have that person to go
look to or talk to, you know what I'm saying,
so they turn to.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The streets the same man. I guess that was basically
my uh my story.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I ain't had no role model. I grew up in
fALS with care my big daughters. Man like the four
a little in it, like he was my my role model,
like anything, because I didn't have no daddy for me.
So it was like the only think I know, it's
a turn to the streets and come to find other people.
I was hanging in the streets, and they didn't really
I didn't really care about me. They didn't care about
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what I can do for them or what I can
do for them. So I really just this is myself, bro,
really just so I was trying to figure it out,
bro and and bro.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Like I said, I even said, I was a lost duke. Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I caught a gun chow as an eighteen bro. I
called my first gun chow at the eighteen bro the
same year I graduated from high school. It's the same
year I called my gun charge. This when the year
I was in and out of trouble, in and out
of trouble, in and out of trouble. But I can
just say it's been over nine years since I got
in trouble. And I'm probably to say that because I
had to really wake up, because I got it. I
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was a dupe when I got in trouble. So if
I were to keep going down there passed you all
know my life in tunt I probably won't even be
sitting here telling my flod to be.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
On me exactly exact, proudly.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And what I think is, man, we gotta we got,
we gotta turn to focus on on all the youth
and not just specific youth, on all the youth. Like,
for example, I have an engagement coming up in Maine.
I gotta go back to Maine to speak at a
y m c A to a group of youth.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
But then you got the other youth like at my
job of brats you know.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
That has to gun charges.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You know has all different type of charges and dealing
with those kids different. But like like I said, we
able to reach every child. You ain't gonna reach every child,
but be able to reach some of them, man, and
make an impact in those kids' life and then tell
you to your face that you've been an impact in
your life. Makes you feel good, you know, just changing
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lives and period in general, man makes you feel good
as a person, you know what I'm saying. That's why
I love doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Like I said, I havesed to be from the hood too,
bro Like, I'm from from from Temple, Florida. Man born
in Temple, raised in Jacksonville, bro jack Town, Florida. You know,
I lived in Chicago for what more than five months,
you know, so, like my mom was yeah, you know
my mom she had sick aseelf, you know, so she
was in the hospital six months out the year.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
My dad was a drug dealer, so he was never home.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
So you can imagine being six and seven years old,
home by yourself, two kids, you know, never going to school, you.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So but look, look look how your life crunk now.
I like, even if I feel like in life like
we might not play them, we not. We might not
depth ourselves from courts. We probably did deal ourselfs some courts,
But it's all about how you turn off. Like I said,
I came from the hood. I don't came from shootouts murders.
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I came from it. I can't like you can walk
in like fish wise, I stayed there. When I'm in
East Saint Louis, you can just walk. And they had
so much actify going on ear because it's a crypt
sick so you can just libby walk up there and
see your body or see somebody fighting. It's just ere
I came from. But I used it to get out, bro.
I used that as my my I use my pain
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for my purpose. That was my pain, bro, because I
was a youth like when I come in, so I
was done when I was going out.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
This, but I had to really like this is a
future I really.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Won't then, Like when my kids came in the pictures,
I was like, this, this is the future I really.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Want for them, even though some things going on with
my kids what I feel of them.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
But the youths our kids up there, ye cheers up
next man, Like how you said we got to cage
all of you because I heard you stay on the
in the clubhouse.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Room and somebody was saying like I was not.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
A guy named but he was like he was talking
about the Bible and like how you shouldn't catered all
you but me. I'm just paraphrase for me personally. I
feel like I can talk to a thousand people. With
a thousand people, whether it's the youth, I'm gonna talk
to him. If they showed me, I'm gonna inspire them.
But I feel like if you're trying to say to
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you or saved anybody, you just can't pint certain time.
You gotta get all of them like you never know,
you might top for ten ten youth, ten teenagers, and
out of their team, you might get one or two
to be like you know what, bro, with your famis
that's a beautiful track. I hang it out no more.
So you got to cater to all of you, like
(22:20):
all walks of life, whether you were raised in the church,
whether you raising a single parent home, was raised with
both of your parents, but he was raisedrom the tree,
but you dropped out of school to all of you, Bro,
that's how I look at it, Bro, It's how look
at life radicated to all of youth.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Bro. People don't see like that. People point tell certain.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Errors are certain people no man, look out. We need
to save all our youth, man, We need to save
all of them.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, some of them don't want to be saved. Some
of the don't want to be saved.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I say that, you know some of them, yeah, you
can tell for those ones who don't to be saved.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
But those who want to be saved.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Man, I really feel like she's spend the time with
those who want to be saved, and then you know,
cherish those moments man. Like you know, my cousin, for example,
he's doing a ten year in bed right now in
president and I wish I was home with him because
that would never happens behind, you know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
So it's all about just being there, being the presidence.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Man.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
So that's why I said, man. As as parents, man,
I need to be there with my son. My son
lives in Florida. You know, my daughter lives in Maryland.
It's very vital for parents to be in their kids' lives.
Like I need to be in my son, like you know,
I'm going to be get me wrong, would be but
like you know, he's in Florida, and it's very vitals,
especially as fathers, bro as fatherless to be there, you
(23:42):
know what I'm saying. Like for the boys, you know,
so because normally the boys turned to the streets, and
they turned to the homies who are not doing good,
and they turned to the influence, and that's how they
get caught up, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Like I got caught up, man.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
But I'm like I said, I'm grateful that I ain't
been in trouble in nine years, bro and counting. That's
why I'm trying to get into a lot of things
like cater to the youth. And I feel like it's
don't get me wrong, I'm not throwing out shot. It's
some adults I heard that need some some training too,
Don't get me wrong, because like we said, they started
with the parents and the kids, and one time, kids
they imit. Take what they see, they do what they see.
(24:21):
They don't they don't. You ain't got to tell them
to dude. They see you doing this and they don't
feel like, oh yeah, he's doing this right.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So and that's when I forget.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Like my brother, I say, since I was eighteen, I'm
thirty six, thirty seven, and that was my inspiration.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Like I went through Fox Curry.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
We went to Fox Curry and that was my inspiration, bro,
Like looking up to him hanging in the street.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So I was like, I'm gonna go to school. I'm
gonna go to work.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
But when I get back, when I get done, I'm
hanging in the streets. I'm gonna do what I want
to do, and I'm gonna still get up and go
to school. I'm still I'm still get him to go
to work. But it's like, even though I thought I
was doing something right, it's like I was still.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Spending more time in the streets, hanging around and around.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
So I really had to be like, you know what,
I started changing my thinking, bro, I started changing the
way I think that, I started changing the people I
hung around, and I gotta start changing the places I
started going. And Bro, like, I'm proud to say, Bro,
I ain't been back home a few years now, but
like eight or nine years or since I been back home.
But I'm happy with my decisions the more the as
(25:27):
far as I go.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
And no, I'm not acting better in life, And no,
I don't think I'm better than nobody. Just I make
better decisions. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I agree, you changed your mindset. Everything about you changed.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know, And they got to get the youth to
do to change their mindset.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
They you know what it was probably met growing up
watching all these gains, the movies like Belly or I
don't know, all these movies out here.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
You're thinking like, hey, I want to live that life,
so you start putting it in your mind like it's
ho forul the turn along nobody. The money started with
me like watching movies and trying to go.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Out there like this life. And she started going out
there doing what I see in these movies.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Because I'm thankty bro. When I was young. Bro, it's
a lot of stuff I.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Did that I didn't get comfortable real and I'm grateful
because I.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
I want to leave her, bro.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
So that's why I really want to say, ay you,
that's what I really want to you. If I can
change the person, bro, change their mind.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I felt like I did my job.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
Yeah, like I said, and again like he's never saying,
definitely charged with the adults, you know, we gotta start
to taking accountability man.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Having self disciplined.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
You know, if people look at self disciplined as a negative,
as a negative thing, it's really not. You know, self disciplined,
you your self love stuff like that. You gotta teach
our kids to love them, love themselves. You gotta teach
our kids to be there like you know, show them
that self discipline and stuff like that. Man being able
to do things and get it done without somebody tells
them to do it, you know, and stuff like that,
(27:01):
Like I teach my son's self discipline. You know, get
up and go and work out. You love basketball, you
love football. You know, go out there and work out
with your friends who play basketball, play football. You know,
I've had this play. Go out there and train every
single day because you intend. You know, you're ten years old.
So imagine where you'll be at in ten years and
you continue to train now and work on your craft. Now,
(27:23):
how far you'll get turn twenty when you get eighteen.
You know, how great and how phenomenal you would be
because you put it in the.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Time and effort and work in your craft right now,
you know.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And that's the only why we talk to you, bro,
because you like you're very with your program, like you
have stuff in place twellwing you that's allowing you a
loss in the CDs because it's not nothing place like,
it's not no more at the school program. It's not
no more. You can hang out of school. The teacher
go to We said, like I was in the work
(27:56):
program when in the ninth grader's call. We said it
was a work program the name, but I don't remember
what the word now for what it was called, we
see it was programs out there. Don't get me wrong.
It was a lot of programs out there when I
was growing up after youth, but it was me decided
like I don't want a fire and do this. I
didn't want to do this, hang in the street do this.
(28:17):
But I'm still going over there. I'm setting my youth. Man,
y'all gotta do this and do this. I could just
get on the possible pet now like like, bro, your son,
you can work out every day by the time he
had eighteen, Like if y'all just do some positive now,
by the time y'all get our age for whatever, man,
y'all be set. Like it took me a long time.
(28:38):
I had to bump my head a couple of times,
like I had to sit down. The time I had
to bump my head, I had to.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Ask was I had to give a couple.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Of ass but at the same time, like or are
you just coming up on us?
Speaker 1 (28:51):
If they got the right people in.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Their life's fine, I'm like, man, you can put that
gun down. You don't make you less of in the
house that don't make the best up it. Man, you
ain't got to hang out and still we hit next. Bro,
you ain't got I'm telling you don't got to do that.
So all my youth that is doing there, don't tap in.
Y'all ain't got to say it.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Man. Y'all ain't got to talk. Man.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
That ship ain't cool. Man, they don't have move. Excuse
my customer. But that's only good in the movies because
I heard it get real. I heard them get real,
like when you get hit. But whatever it's real, I
her it's not. No, it's acting. It's a fake bullet.
Now Thursday, I'm telling y'all, man, get off on streets.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Man. If y'all drop out of school, I'm telling my
youth go back to school. Man. If y'all don't want
to know what's next, I want to go to college. Man,
get a job. Man, figure out what you're good at,
whatever you have to do. But man, leave them streets alone. Man,
I'm street big.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
But when the whole word be focused. That's why I
tell my son, when the whole world is struck, that
you be focused.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
You know crazy, Brocaus the news they do put a
lot of negativity on her and it'll make you fearful.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But me, I don't watch them. I don't watch it.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I just want to make sure you, Bro, I want
to make sure they do. I said, my kids Illinois
I believe, wanted me taught me Illinois want to Maryland believe.
But while I'm here, where I'm at, man, if I
see you, bro, like, why are we going outside playing
with her three kids?
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I was like, man, you got.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Some beautiful kids. Like it's like she's a mom to
make sure her kids don't end up in the fit.
So I respect a single mom for single dances if
doing anything, I respect them because I don't know your
situ waiting, but I know you trying to do something
for your to have a better future.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's been a great conversation, Bro. Anything else you want
to share.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Man, I can go man when it comes out you bro,
I can talk all day. Like we need to get programs, man,
Like why I'm said as they had the boys and
girl clubs. Man do stuff like that, man, Like get
you a lot of y'all eight team and you go
get your membership, like worked out being a gym while
you are trying to hang in. Go to the gym
and work out, like, find you a place, got a track,
(31:21):
a track and run around the track, man, like do
some pods or everything. You gotta hang around your home boys,
because at the end of the day, I'm gonna be
really at the end of the day, all these people,
y'all callyall homeboys.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Soon that heat turn up like birds, they're gonna be
nowhere insight.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, you right about that, man.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
That's why it's that's why it's very vital to have
people that's gonna, you know, throw logs on your fire,
you know, like what'sliff stat You know, look at your
last five text messages.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
All those people throwing logs on your fire or be
pissing on.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
It, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
And it's just very vital man, to really surround yourself
around people who's gonna uplift you and for your cup.
You know, if they're not feel your cup, they don't
deserve to be around you.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Everybody doesn't deserve to be around you.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
And for the kids did to realize that, you know,
everybody doesn't deserve to be around them like they have
their own unique power. You know, they think that they
have to be around friends and be cool. Being cool
is having your own having your own businesses, you know,
having your own connections, being able to travel to the
United Kingdom, like me, Bro, I can go to the
UK and get mad love in the UK, you know,
(32:35):
make one phone calls like your rage. What's up my brother?
I mean, I'm in the UK, the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
That's to me, that's you ain't gotta say bro when
you say UK, that's London, Bro, Yeah, that's the company.
I just my I have a look, I know somebody
in the UK.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Bro. I look, look, I look.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I like connecting with people all over the world, not
just in the same Look have it, bro? I got yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:00):
You know not.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Now you can say you're a boss because you can
go in any country and be known and get mad
love as soon as you pull up, you know what
I'm saying. That to me, that's it's really I told
my kids that Bractice. I said to y'all, able to
go to different countries and get mad love from different countries,
they consider itself a boss.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Being in the streets, being the hood doesn't make you
a boss, man.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I'm telling you that, right now going out and making
an impact and influence others to be great. That's what
makes you a boss, you know what I'm saying, having
your own and encourage you others to go out there
and get.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Their own exactly And this what and you said it
bro A lot of these out here probably looking looking
looking up to their big home whatever they call them
these days. I just call them big homies. And they
looking for them like and this, like they got us?
This who got them?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Like? This is what they see, Like my big You're.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Gonna ride for me, You're gonna look out for me
when I get locked up. You're gonna put my book,
You're gonna put money on my coming sire. I'm gonna
take this charge for him. I'm gonna tell you how
the people thought what I hung around growing up. I'm
gonna take this choice for him because he don't he gonna.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Look out for me, you know he am Oh yeah,
we like he gonna he knows you young, you know
you gullible.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
So they keep people around like because I'm gonna be honest,
I kept from you with me drawing, I kept from
you going to catch around me like that because I
knew they were TDG.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
They were praying to go. But I'm not with all that.
I'm telling y'all. If y'all got to think y'all got
a big homy man.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
They not your big comany man. They just they not
gonna look out for your life, real Kirk.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
How much money they put on your book, they're only
doing it because they need you when he when you
get out. Exactly, I learned her in the free man.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
So that's why I want to get miny youth up
because he bro like And like I said, I ain't
got the resources right not ship, but I do know
I have a much character for you like man.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
They so lost on her bro like man.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Keep working, keep working, man, keep working.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
I encourage your other book. You know, if you get
a book out, I'm going buy your book. But that's
the first step right there, man, is have your book out.
Once you got a book out, you can't really go
anywhere with that book, and especially go speak on stages
like to these schools and stuff like that. Having a book, man,
sets you off from so many areas, man, because now
you can go to a school and speak and then
(35:24):
show your book and the school might say, hey, I
look the way you spoke read your book, and now
the school might invest and buy books and put your
books in their school because the way you spoke.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
To the kids.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
And that's crazy because my publisher, that's basically the route. Like,
that's basically the route on mown now. Like I'm trying
to become a boy trying. I want to become a
life transformational.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Coach and.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Bro, that's what I want to do. I want to
inspire for before I expire. So I really want to
pay it. But I really want to focus more on
you though. Even though we got a doubt, I heard.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
They need someone tweaking up and fix. But it's really
towice for youth. Bro. So I'm trying to get a
good home. Boy.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I want to get in group homes. I run up shelters, Bro.
I really I sent them. I even sent on the corner.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Bro. I just want to bro like I got to start, Bro,
and I know it's time. Bro. Like I ain't a lie.
I left my good bro like job.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I was that I don't work on nine to five
because I want to focus more on I want to
focus more on what need to be focused.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
On, Bro. But I really want to focus more.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
On our youth, bro, like for real, because like I said,
I was a lost I was a loss seed. If
I ain't getting myself together, I wantn't even be here
like I was lost, lost in the saut. But I
wasn't always lost. I always had a good mindset. It's
just when you got a good mindset hanging the wrong
wrong people. When you so people you need love. People
can manipulate you, bro, They can get in your mind.
(36:52):
A lot of people got in my mind, bro to
do this, do this this, and I just started getting
people in mind and having him to do this. I'm
talking people way younger than me. So I know how
you feel like you gotta you feel like they gotta
fit in or they got a proof a point. Are
this time to get my strik? You really want to
get stripes, go to school, go to college, and college
(37:13):
not for you.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Work a job. If you want to be a business,
own to write a book, sort of clothing line. You
get more strikes by doing that because you your strikes
will go far than just the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
How you get more than strikes, man, you get a
lifetime of a lifetime of respect. You know when you
lead us earth, you know your book is still gonna
be here. You know, we lead us Earth, your clothing line,
clothing brand. People who bought your clothes still gonna have
those clothes.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So even though you off this Earth, You're still gonna
be here because your presence is here, you.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Know, anything save from close out. I don't want to
end this conversation, but I know you're a busy man.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
And you know you're busy to the world.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Ah now, just being tuned, guys, you know, Champions can
coming back, more guests and having the markets on Champions Connect.
It felt good on his podcast, guys, just his podcast
called Seeking Knowledge. You guys mentioned you go subscribe show
love to my Man's podcast and for the Refresher myself.
You know, guys, just being too you know, I got
(38:20):
more guests coming and I'm gonna get back to doing
my my podcast. We have a few guests coming in
the room. Few youths come in the room. We just
appreciate the guys. We're just talking about saving our youth
and just trying to refresh adults. That's my nickname, the Refresher, right,
So yeah, yeah, I gotta we gotta, we gotta refresh
(38:43):
these adults. Man we gotta let people know, man, like
you gotta come together as adults, you know, and really
get the adults right before we get the kids right.
We can't get the kids right and we can't get
the adults right. So that's why I love that we
did this. You know what I'm saying. I love that
we did this. You know, hopefully some people heard this
and really got the message, man, because again it starts with.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Us, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
And uh and and I mean, I love is something.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It's neutral, bro, like support chimpion podcasts, you know, support
him everything got going on man. He on social media,
that's John Jackson looking man. Support him, man, because broke
for him.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
To overcome my line and come from the hood.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Man, he really used the hood and he he changed, man,
and he aspired me to be honest like real like
you aspired bro, just like the way you get up
and he of yourself.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
And I had to really give me a I got
me a routine now, Bro, I wake up and follow
a little routine now, so you aspire me.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
When I pick you, was like, yeah, I find to
go work out or I'm doing this. That's inspiration. Bro.
Continue to be great. But I'm done and talking.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Just you remember this last one, last quote.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Man, how you dress is how you will be a dress.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
How you dress would be how you dk And I
tell people that you got you gotta dress what I
tell people that you gotta address the part.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So if you felt to go to interview, you know
you're not to get no job interview with no.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
T shirt on and no stress jean and listen up
something some place you can get a job like that,
but you gotta.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Address the part.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Bro, I'm done.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Other than that, Man, you got any close the words
for the people.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Man fight ended matters one of y'all to say. Man,
y'all be.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Blessed no matter what y'all going through. Y'all see the
possial and every situation. And Man, I don't matter what
y'all you're going through. Man, y'all kids going going through
be there for man, because sometimes all they need is
to listen to earth Man.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Hey, Man, Man, you guys has been fun. Guys, Type
in Show Love. It will be on YouTube and again guys,
this is Seeking Knowledge podcast, Go showman mes, Some Love,
Go Shortge podcast, Some Love. Subscribe all of that, guys,
me champions Connect guys on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Look it up.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Go subscribe, guys, So love and be coming back. We
coming back, guys.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
We got our power.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
And you know this is real talk right here, guys,
This is real talk, no baby talk. We here showing
love to everybody, guys. So we get to inspire all homeless,
bad kids, good kids, grandmothers, grandfathers, mothers, fathers, all of that, guys.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
So just tap in show love. Other than that, that's
all I got.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm dying by fine to be here in the broadcast
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