June 28, 2023 • 33 mins
In this exhilarating episode of Chapter Select, your hosts Randy and Jens transport you to the world of Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. Join them on a magic carpet ride as they delve into the depths of this action-packed, Jerry Bruckheimer produced and Mike Newell directed adventure film, which takes inspiration from the beloved video game series. They explore the captivating story of Prince Dastan, an audacious rogue who finds himself entwined in a treacherous plot when an ancient dagger, housing the titular Sands of Time, falls into his hands. So grab your swords, tighten your turbans, and prepare to embark on an unforgettable adventure.
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Hello, and welcome to Chapter Selectat the Movies, the show where we
watch movies based on video games andthen we talk about them with me as
always Randy, I'm YenS. Hello, Hello, how's it going, yends,
It is going, life is happening, all right, So it's it
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was your pick this week? Yes, and I am doing my best not
to hate you really. Yeah.Oh that's disappointing because I actually when I
saw this movie in the theater wayback when it was new, I thought
it was extremely middling, Like,I came out of it very disappointed at
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the time. And then over theyears, as I've endured more and more
video game movies, it has grownin my esteem where you know, like,
oh I was I was too harshon Prince of Persia. You know,
it's kind of it's almost a realmovie compared to most of these things.
It is a real movie. Ithas some decent acting performances, it
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has some good comedy. However,it ain't Prince of Persia. All right.
We can argue about that, andthat you'll have more of a perspective
on that than I do. Becausemy only exposure to Prince of Persia the
game series is the three sixty erareboot game that was just called Prince of
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Persia, and I did not likethat game, and I was very actually
in particular hated the weird ass endingand then the way they tacked onto it
with DLC. Also, the onlyPrince of Persia game I've played is the
original back on a different podcast thatI used to be a part of.
Luckily with the way the timing workedout. Tonight, I found a YouTube
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video with all of the cut scenesthe original game, all of those just
to remember, because when I waswatching the movie, I'm like, none
of this is right, Like,like I don't think the story of the
game was that in depth, butit was like the entire time going nope,
nope, that's not right. Thisis just thrown in there for you
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know, a film adaptation, whichis fine. But this could have just
been called anything other than Prince ofPersia and it would have been a just
fine movie. But they tapped onthe move or the video game license,
which I don't think really helped it, but it definitely was not the only
thing that it has connections with,and Supersia is the dagger with the sand
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in it. That's it. That'sthe only thing connected, he doesn't need
to manipulate time very much in themovie. Dagger in the movie is well,
it's it's more of like your standardmcguffin that, if misused by the
bad guy, will destroy the wholeworld. Ye Whereas in the game,
you know, he probably would beusing that dagger non stop to do cool
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stuff. But here really is relegatedto a couple of key scenes. But
before we get into all that,um, you know, as I don't
mind this movie, I have neverreally compared to the story of the video
games. What I think it's tryingto be more in anything, it's like
kind of somewhere between the Pirates ofthe Caribbean and the Mummy, like the
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Brent Frazier or the Mummy. Likeit's like sitting right between those two stylistically
to me. And in fact,there's a lot of stuff where it's like,
yep, it's Jerry Bruckheimer, youknow, even though and it's one
of those crazy things. It's likeMike Newell at the time, I guess
he'd made a Harry Potter movie.I think he made the fourth one.
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Anyway, he'd made a Harry Pottermovie, so he had at this point
credentials in movie blockbusters, but hewas like an art house director for a
while and then he was like ayou know, your big star, real
you know draw you know. Helike he made Closer with Natalie Portman and
Clive Owen and Shoot Law and hemade Mona Lisa Smile with Julie Rock.
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He made all these, you know, prestige dramas, and to go from
that to Princess Persia is weird becauseit doesn't feel like one of his movies
at all. It doesn't feel likea Mike Newell movie. It feels more
like, you know, what Goverbinskiwas doing with Pirates. And then you
think like, okay, what's thecome denominator? It's Bruckheimer. And then
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you think of like, what elseis Bruckman done. Okay, he did
you know, Armageddon, and thatalso had libertari in characters who talked about
how much they had tech taxes alot. That's like, there's like things
in this where it's just like that'sa Brockheimer thing. The Alfred Molina playing
the Desert Bandit, who is reallyjust like a wacky libertarian who hates bureocracy
and taxes as one hundred percent theBrockheimer thing. So it feels like it's
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kind of in that vein or comparedto like all the movies that were trying
to be Pirates of the Caribbean atthat time, you know, like the
Haunted Mansion movie. M that's kindof the category that I would stick this
in, even though it's a videogame movie. It feels more like,
you know, after Disney had ahit on their hand with Pirates, they
tried to you know, Loan Ranger. They tried to replicate that kind of
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style of movie over and over andnever, and this falls in that in
that category. But actually it's likea Miley decent one of those. So
you have your kind of Okay,so let's just go through the story.
I guess then you can tell mehow it's all wrong. But let's just
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go through the story. So yougot basically three brothers. Did you want
me to wait till you were doneto tell you things are wrong? No?
No, tell me the things arewrong immediately that you saw him more
recently. That the fact that it'sthree brothers. Okay, it's two brothers
and one adopted brother. That's alsoif you want to go I was talking
about it. If you want meto tell me if it was wrong from
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the game. Oh yeah, no, no, no, let me get
because we could do this. Wecould do this a whole podcast. I
could just say wrong because it happensa lot. No, no, let's
not do that. That'd be toodisruptive. I will just say this.
I'll throw it out real quick.Um, he's not adopted in the game.
He is just the son of theking, by the way, the
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evil person, which in the movieand the game are both the most obvious
evil person I've ever seen. Yes, but other than being Gandhi, I
don't I have a hard time thinkof I guess he was the father in
ho If you've ever played Civilization,you know Gandhi is not good either.
So no, no, he's ahe's a bastard. But to be fair,
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I just just so it out thereagain. He is not the brother
of the king like he is inthe movie. He is just the advisor.
It's just this whole movie was like, well, there was not a
there's not a lot of there's nota lot of story in this video game.
So what do we do. Well, we make our main character an
orphan that will give him more,and they give him the Aladdin kind of
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origin story with the you know,being chased through the market. But then
he comes, you know, acrossthe king who is doing a tour of
the grounds for some reason, andthe king recognizes greatness in him and adopts
him as one of his own.Like totally happens in these kind of scenarios,
right, We always see people justjust ignore a class like that.
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But and the and the two brothersare totally cool with it. And it's
the uncle that absolutely hates it.Yeah, they totally cool, Like this
is a funny love him, Iguess, I mean, I guess up
until the point. Here's the thing, this is, this is very weird
to me. And I'll jump aheada little bit in the story with the
brothers. Um, So, thebrothers obviously completely turn on Aladdin. What's
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his real name? What's what's theprincess? I think? And that's Tom
yes, yes, ye yeah yeah, so, um they totally turn on
him after they think that he killedtheir dad whatever that makes sense. But
even before then, the oldest brotheris shown to be like he's making like
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weird rape insinuations towards the queen ofthis kingdom. He's just conquered, and
it's just generally being a huge bastard. And later on it's revealed that it
was really just Ben Kingsley who wastricking him into, you know, thinking
that they were weapons of mass destruction. And so okay, we got by
the way like, oh, thisis a Bush era movie because we're talking
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about where are the wmdsum in Persia? But so we start out, we've
got these three brothers. One ofthem was adopted, you know, he
was he was a street urchin.The king took him in because he saw
greatness in him, and now he'sone of the family. And no one
had a problem with this up untilthings start to go wrong, which is
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about now because Ben Kingsley has convincedthem that this Persian, this rival Persian
kingdom that I don't even remember ifthey're it's named or not, but that
they've got this, they've got somekind of weapon horde that they've been importing
from some other group, and they'regearing up for war and they're secretly arming
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themselves and there's like a stash theseweapons hidden the way somewhere. And if
we don't act now and conquer theircity and take over, then who knows
what they're gonna do, and youknow, obviously we know that the king
is against this, but he's notthere, and gust Duston does not really
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do enough. He Duston does aninteresting thing which I quite liked, which
when he realizes that like his brothersare dead set on like he can't talk
to him out of it, orhe doesn't really do enough to talk to
him out of it, I guess, but really he does not. I
don't think he would have been able. Later on, he gets chastised for
like, you know, a goodman did what you did, but a
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great man would have stopped it altogether. And you're like, I don't really
think he had the power or thedata to make them stop at that point.
Like he's not really able to stopthe invasion until the very end of
the movie where he goes back intown with all the information that he's gleamed
from his time travels. But atthe point he really doesn't have much that
he can do rather than to youknow, break in himself, you know,
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climb over the wall, sneak in, open the gates from the inside
to at least, you know,during the invasion, minimize loss of life.
And he does that pretty well andas such, you know, even
though the queen of the conquered townhates him at first, eventually she starts
to realize that he's kind of adecent guy. And you know when he
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is then framed for the father's murder. So at the point where the father,
you know, takes the crown issupposed to take the crown, he's
you know, his brother gives himthis like shawl for him for his or
like this like robe before his dadto put on, and the robe is
poisoned, so he like melts awayinto a into a shriveled, little little
nothing thing, you know, ingreat pain. There's like just it's like
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the most dramatic, you know,it's like the whatever acid is lining this
suit. It's just like crazy.It's like the green balls from the rock
or something. The way this guystarts disintegrating and smoking from this robe.
But yeah, so he gets hegets poisoned, and then of course Duston
is blamed for it. He thinksit's his brother because the brother gave him
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the rope, but really the ropegot the brother from I mean, the
brother got the rope from Ben Kingsley. So Ben Kingsley's behind everything, but
at this point he's like, Ihave some use for this hot princess.
I will force her to marry mefor my hair and all this stuff.
That's like, really, I don'tknow, I feel like they cheat a
little bit with the depiction of thischaracter as far as, like, you
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know, at the you know,by the beginning of the third act,
pretending that he was good all along. It's like, I don't know,
there are some real red flags ofhis behavior, regardless of whether he's been
deceived or not. Right, Imean, obviously the brothers, I mean,
Edge just shows anytime you have achance at power, the whole corruption
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deal, and that's exactly what BenKingsley is trying to do. His character
is like, hey, if Ican tell these brothers that, hey,
you can become king if you dothis, it's gonna be great. It's
gonna be fantastic. And then andthen they they think of the power that
they can obtain, and then theydo stupid shit. Yep. And the
thing I really loved throughout the movieit's almost like a running joke too.
I don't think it was intended asa joke, is that every time that
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Duston convinces one of his brothers tocome onto his side, like convinces him
of the truth, convinces him ofthe fact that Ben Kingsley was behind it,
or just that he's not guilty.As soon like thirty seconds after they
realize, after they're on his side, they will get murdered. Like he
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turns every one of his brothers,he turns to his side, where they're
like, oh, Duston, really, you know, we're you're you're really
the you know we've been deceived andwe're on your side now up arrowed.
You know, there's just instantly anassassin will show up and throw some daggers
or whatever in their chest, sothat as soon as you know, so
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he doesn't have any allies, right, as soon as he's got a brother
on his side, you've got adispose of that character instantly, so they're
out of the story. But notthat it matters, since he's gonna,
you know, turn everything that happenedback at the end anyway. But the
way he does this, and Idon't even remember how, he just kind
of like gets this dagger in theinvasion, This dagger kind of falls into
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his lap and it's just a daggerwith a handle that's got like an hourglass
full of sand in it and abig ridiculous, fat red gem button at
the top and when you press thegem button, it makes time go backwards
and you can use that to cheatin fist fights and stuff, which he
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does a lot. He does alot of of well not a lot,
but you know in key moments whenhe when he loses a fight or it's
just about to lose a fight,that's usually when it comes into play.
And yeah, he's got this dagger, and he and the Queen go on
the run and then there in thedesert for a while and they meet the
libertarian desert pirates and again there's awhole movie well because Alfred Molina's fucking awesome,
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great great, great character, greatactor. Also it's the best set
piece of the movie because I thoughtthe like the Ostrich race was like a
genuinely cool thing, Like I've notseen an Ostrich race in the movie before,
and it was done really well.Can I just say, look like
the saddest animals. Oh yeah,their eyes are pretty droopy, just I
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mean the way they run and obviouslythey keep their heads straight so their next
just go out goofy. It islike those poor bastards. Yeah, with
that said, whenever I do die, that's what I'm going to turn into
in my next life, apparently isgoing to be an Ostrich well, and
they make a thing like there's likejokes about how like Alfred Molina is concerned
that like the last of his ostrichis is depressed because the other ones are
not with him anymore, and allthe stuff is it's cute, what's not
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so cute? As again, theykind of do the like, uh,
you know, everybody's leering at theprincess, and at some point, Dusta
basically trades the princess for the daggerbecause at this point, you know,
Molina's gotten the dagger and he tradesthe prince for it, and again there's
a bunch of like, nah,what are you gonna do with her?
You know, chokes, and thenthey're just using her to serve drinks at
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the Ostrich Trace, So we gotyou know, that's when we kind of
start to realize that Alfra Mallina isnot such a bad guy. He's not
a pirate. He's just a businessmanwho hates rules and regulations, and he's
so funny he's so good and andgive credit to um who is it the
place the dagger guy? Oh,that's so, I think it is a
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character's name. Yeah, he's cool, dude, whoever plays him. It
was really really good in that roletoo, and just kind of kind of
does miss and he kind of throwsin his stuff and yep, it was
that duo was great. Yep,And he gets of a nice heroic,
heroic death because of course, bythe end of the movie, Molina and
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his pirates and and our heroes teamup to you know, prevent this ritual
that Ben Kingsley is gonna pull.I mean, there's a bunch of stuff
that happens in between the two thatwe can probably skip over some of it.
I mean, the important things arelike at Duston is convinced that he
needs to go back, you know, after they fled to the desert,
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they then have to go back tothe town so that he can talk to
Ben Kingsley and get the truth out. And that's when he realized when he
when he has that conversation with BenKingsley again, he realizes that like Kingsley
knows too much about things that heshouldn't or it was when he sees that
his hands are burned. Yeah,the hand he sees that, he sees
that the hands are burned. You'reright, that that he was handling.
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It's like, oh he said itwas when he was trying to save the
king, but I never saw himhandle the cloth, so he must have
handled the cloth before. So yeah, that's really And then also you know
ben Kingsley's being like very like uh, you know, like hmm, what
this dagger tell me? More soall that kind of leaves duston just kind
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of hurry off, you knowing thatBen kings is behind it all and trying
to again seeking out his brothers andthen getting all of his brothers killed,
and then realizing that ben Kingsley's goaland his whole backstory is that he saved
the king at some point that theywere on a hunt and the king almost
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got mauled by was it a tigeror a line? He was it was
some animal pain, I think,Okay, whatever, Yeah, he almost
got mauled by line and Ben Kingsleysaved him, and now he regrets saving
him because he would have been king. And I guess he's had many,
many many years to decide that.Oh I shouldn't have been so idealistic as
a young man. So he wantsto turn back time and basically rewrite history
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so that he's king all along.He gets to have a lifetime as king.
But you know, once you unleashedthe sands, So the sands,
what's the backstory of the sands?It was a punishment from the gods at
one point, and then there waslike a woman who sacrificed herself off as
who like presented herself as a sacrificeof the gods to to you know,
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to show that there's still some goodpeople. Yeah. So basically from where
I remember it is, you know, the gods gave of man all this
power than power or that man obviouslyused the power corruptedly, and the gods
disliked it, so they sent thiswhole big sandstorm to take out all of
man, and then some girl beggedthem not to do it, and they
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basically put all that sand in thishour glass or this temple or whatever you
want to go with, and thenbasically, if if shit goes down again,
they will unleash the sands and createthis whole horrible thing. And that's
exactly what Ben Kingsley's character is tryingto do is just I don't want to
rule the world. I want todestroy the world. And oh is that
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the fun? We only is itrevealed that he really just wants to destroy
the world. He lets it allout. It's going to destroy the whole
areas. I don't think. Ithink he's just incredibly reckless and irresponsible.
I think he wants to turn backtime to be king and doesn't believe that
he's going to destroy the world bydoing this. I think he probably I
could be mixing that with the game, because no, I think Ben Kingsley
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wants I think he thinks that hecan control it, but of course he
can't control it. That could beme mixing it in with the game's plot,
because the game's plot is he tricksthe main character who is his name
was in the games I don't care, yeah, but but real quick.
So basically, he tricks him intoputting the dagger into the hourglass at the
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beginning of the game, and insteadof creating a big giant sandstorm, it
turns everyone into zombies. Okay,and then you just fight zombies the whole
time. That's the entire game,as you fighting all the zombies and then
try to fix what you did.So, like I said, the plot
of the game and the plot ofthe movie absolutely different. Other than that
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the Ben Kingsley's character, who isnot the brother of the king in the
game, is wanting to have andyou're just stuff, are there other sons
of the king besides the main character? Okay, not that they show in
the first game. Like I said, I haven't played the rest of the
series, but hm, now yeah, I don't really I barely remember what
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the one that I played was about. I just remember it had a lot
of I remember that the way thatthe two thousand and eight I think there's
two thousand and eight or nine,the way that that reboot Prince of Persia
was laid out, it kind ofturned the entire game into a long quctim
event. That's a lot of thatgame because you had to you know,
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like, let's say that you hadto climb. You know, I'm going
to climb from here to here,and there's this pathway and there really is
only one correct way to traverse thispathway, and every section of it it's
like, okay, vines have thiskind of button prompt and the little hooks
from the ceiling have this kind ofbutton prompt and so on and so forth.
So it then really just becomes doingall the button prompts and exactly like
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there's It doesn't feel like there's anyIt never felt like there was any freedom
to it. That was my bigcomplaint. But it felt like, do
this predetermined series of button prompts totraverse this environment and just and do it
perfectly or you get set back alittle bit. So it just tried like
a long quick time event the wholegame. Yeah, the reboot came out
in two thousand and eight, whichis a couple of years after resid Evil
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four really pushed the quick time eventstuff forward. The Sands of Time,
which this movie is supposed to bebased off of US two thousand and three
and really built like the Parkourse stuff. It was like it was before Assassin's
Creed. I'm pretty sure I doyou want to talk about the Parkourse stuff.
This movie has Parkourse stuff in it, And I will say this,
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it didn't impress me back in thetheater in two thousand and six, but
having since watched the Assassin's Creed moviemultiple times once with you, it really
makes the Parkourse stuff in this movielook great. By comparison, Like it
really makes me appreciate that, likeI can see what, I can follow
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what's happening. It's like film normally. It's got a decent color palette.
The stunts are well done, Likein fact, I will give this movie
this, Like it's not like ithas the greatest action set pieces, but
what is there is very well puttogether, like highly competent as far as
just you know, your basic filmcraft, editing, cinematography, you know,
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film score. The score is greatestHarry Gregson Williams of Shrek fame,
so and I enjoyed that quite abit. But it also it was kind
of drifting it. It felt likeit was doing Maybe that's why I was
thinking of The Mummy and Pirates ofthe Curving because the soundtrack reminded me of
both of them. But like everythingabout the production to me is like,
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does this a competent Hollywood movie?And its biggest flaw honestly is that like
it kind of relies a little bittoo much on the We haven't really talked
about the Princess yet very much.The Princess played by Jemma Arturton. Jemma
Arturton is a British actress that Iactually really love. Um, she's She's
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Tomorrow, Drew. Have you've everseen that movie. She's in the Disappearance
of Alice Creed. She's actually areally fantastic actress. And I think our
character in this doesn't really give eventhough she gets actually gets more to dude,
and I remembered like she gets quitea bit to do in the first
third of the movie. But herthere's too much well excuse me, princess
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business going on, you know,too much of the That's that's a lot
of Jerry Bruckharmer movies again. Imean, yeah, the Treasures the same
way other Prince are Pirates of theCaribbean movies are that way. It's just,
yeah, you have to have thetwo love interests really just and bigger
each other and bigger and and that'swhere he finds his comedy. And it
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happens a lot. There's a lotof it, and I will give a
credit again watch it going back andwatching the cut scenes of the Prince of
Persia game that the princess and yourmain character do bicker. Okay, so
that is a thing. I'll justsay this again. This is a decent
enough movie if it didn't have Princeof Persia on it. But it has
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very little to do with Prince ofPersia. Though, again, going back
and watching all the cut scenes fromthe first game, they do what they
can to try to expand on whatwas pretty bare as far as a story
goes from that game. However,I really just feel like they go too
far with it and it goes toolong. This does not need to be
a two hour movie at all.Like they throw in the weird assassins that
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with the snake, and they showup a couple of times they were not
needed at all. I think thatcould have saved you fifteen twenty minutes.
While I absolutely love the prison desertscene, I think a couple of those
go a little long, and oneone scene too many. This could have
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been a ninety minute movie easy,and I would have stomached it more.
But it was making I mean,it's hour and forty five. I think
it's kind of the minimum that theywere trying to hit. I think with
this it was it's too long.By the end of it. I was
looking at the watch and going allright, where I'm I'm over it.
If they would have hit ninety minuteson this thing, I think it would
have flowed. But you got torealize this at a time when these exactly
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this like genre for adventure movie wasgetting longer and longer, you know,
the Curbbean movies were going from liketwo to twenty to like two and a
half to three hours. It's alsowhy they aren't being made anymore. Well,
yeah, now they aren't. There'sall sorts of reasons for that.
You know. Once once that wasgone, they couldn't gone. And and
comic book movies took over, butthat too, Oh and those are also
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super long. Son. Actually,this to me feels like a pretty average
movie for length, But I agree, would it be better if it were
ninety minutes and just kind of asnappy you know, with a ninety minute
movie, a lot of you know, it's a lot more forgivable because it
just, you know, even ifit's bad, moving along really fast,
and and it's at least you know, the plots moving forward. Were you
right, there's there's quite a bitof what you know, you might describe
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as filler in this um. Butwhat I was trying to get it with
the casting as I love Jim orArtist, and I just felt like she
wasn't really used correctly, and ofcourse they basically put her in brown face
to be a Persian princess, whichis the same thing with just the whole
Like y, Jake Gildenhall, Imean, I realized it's a tired complaint.
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Well, it's a lot of itis you just go look at how
much movie this made? How much? How much money is movie made?
Yeah, and the movie made abunch of money. I did well.
I mean it didn't do like amazing, but it did well. Budget on
hundred and fifty to two hundred millionin box office was three hundred and thirty
six million. Yeah, it's asuccess. It's a success, which a
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lot of that comes on to hey, Jake, Joe and draw or Joe
and Hall is hot right now golet's go. Yeah. Yeah, I
can see what Taylor Swift saw himat this time. So I mean,
that's the that's the reason why JakeJonah. I mean, obviously, luckily,
I think you know, Hollywood isgoing away from that a little bit
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and we're not whitewashing all these moviesas much as we used to. But
that was that we were still whitewashingin two thousand and six. It just
feels too recent, but I guessthat was it was the style at the
time. Yep, So, sirs, it's time to rate. Yes,
sir, so, I will tellyou I I had in mind at a
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certain rating, and then you remindedme that we have watched Assassin's Creed.
And I looked at my scores,and at the time I had given it
the exact same scores Assassin's Creed.This is better than Assassin's Creed. So
I will bout my score up slightlyand I will give Prince of Persia a
five. Mm hmm. See,I don't know. I feel like it's
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better than that. I mean justas a and again not giving a shit
about the games whatsoever, just lookingat it as you know, a fun
adventure movie from that era of funadventure movies. I think this is like
a six. That's fair. Ican't hate it. I mean it's more
did I give I gave ratche andClank of six, right, you gave
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Ratchett and Clank of five? Okay, good? Then this is a six.
That makes sense because I definitely feelcompared to the last movie Ratchet and
Clank, this is so much better. It's infinitely better about infinitely. But
but I mean, like it's areal do you feel like you're not wasting
your time? You know? Oras much? That's fair. That's fair
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that you feel that way and thatand we've already played that. That's what
I mean. It's not like it'snot worth sticking a video game cutscene in
a movie theater. That would bereally if I'd seen Ratchet and Clank in
the movie theater, Like, howpissed would you be? You go,
you play the game, and thentwo weeks later you go see them movie
and you see the thing that youalready know. Right, that's fair,
that's fair. But again, ifyou had never never had played the game
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it was it was a decent movie, it would be fine, I guess.
But yeah, but this, tome, it's more worthwhile. It's
got people in it that I like. Molina is very funny. It has
all those brockhimerisms that are like funto like think about and point out.
But they're of course, you know, very stupid. Um and yeah,
that's the parts of Persia. It'sit's a dumb fun thing to me,
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But I get you five five seemsI can understand. It's defensible. I
see where you're coming from, allright, So there you go. That
is Prince of Persia. So nowit is time for me to announce my
next game. I haven't even becauseI did not think about until just before
we started recording. It is ourtwenty fifth movie, sir, oh man
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um, let me tell go ahead? No, no, okay, go
on uh once again. I liketo look at anniversaries first, as far
as like picking different movies, andthis movie, in the month of July
will hit its twentieth anniversary, soI figured this would be a good time.
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And other than the resident Evil movies, I think this is the first
time we are watching a sequel.Oh is it the second tomb Rater?
It is Laura Croft tomb Rater theCradle of Life. I figured it'd be
a good one too, after thewhole Prince of Persia time manipulation. The
first Laura Croft one had timing manipulation. I'm going to guess this one does
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too. I've never seen the secondone. I'm going to fully admit right
now I haven't either, So thereyou go. We have no idea what
we're going to get into. However, when I did look it up,
it is a two hour movie,so I've probably got life because it is
probably also far too long. Butwe will see how that one goes.
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First, tomb Rater, it wasninety minutes, so they've moved away from
that. Yeah, disappointing, Sothere you go. That'll be our next
episode. Laura Croft, tomb RaiderThe Cradle of Light. I've got twenty
five different movies after we view thatone. That's a good thick. We
had to do that sooner or later. I appreciate your take. I there
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was a couple I thought that weregoing to be really brutal, but I
decided to be nice to us andhopefully watch a decent movie. But we
will see. All right, Yan, That's that's enough of us here this
time. We will see you thenext time on chapters select at the movies.
But until then, you guys,have a fantastic day. Jeerio
Hello, and welcome to Chapter Selectat the Movies, the show where we
watch movies based on video games andthen we talk about them with me as
always Randy, I'm YenS. Hello, Hello, how's it going, yends,
It is going, life is happening, all right, So it's it
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was your pick this week? Yes, and I am doing my best not
to hate you really. Yeah.Oh that's disappointing because I actually when I
saw this movie in the theater wayback when it was new, I thought
it was extremely middling, Like,I came out of it very disappointed at
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the time. And then over theyears, as I've endured more and more
video game movies, it has grownin my esteem where you know, like,
oh I was I was too harshon Prince of Persia. You know,
it's kind of it's almost a realmovie compared to most of these things.
It is a real movie. Ithas some decent acting performances, it
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has some good comedy. However,it ain't Prince of Persia. All right.
We can argue about that, andthat you'll have more of a perspective
on that than I do. Becausemy only exposure to Prince of Persia the
game series is the three sixty erareboot game that was just called Prince of
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Persia, and I did not likethat game, and I was very actually
in particular hated the weird ass endingand then the way they tacked onto it
with DLC. Also, the onlyPrince of Persia game I've played is the
original back on a different podcast thatI used to be a part of.
Luckily with the way the timing workedout. Tonight, I found a YouTube
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video with all of the cut scenesthe original game, all of those just
to remember, because when I waswatching the movie, I'm like, none
of this is right, Like,like I don't think the story of the
game was that in depth, butit was like the entire time going nope,
nope, that's not right. Thisis just thrown in there for you
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know, a film adaptation, whichis fine. But this could have just
been called anything other than Prince ofPersia and it would have been a just
fine movie. But they tapped onthe move or the video game license,
which I don't think really helped it, but it definitely was not the only
thing that it has connections with,and Supersia is the dagger with the sand
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in it. That's it. That'sthe only thing connected, he doesn't need
to manipulate time very much in themovie. Dagger in the movie is well,
it's it's more of like your standardmcguffin that, if misused by the
bad guy, will destroy the wholeworld. Ye Whereas in the game,
you know, he probably would beusing that dagger non stop to do cool
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stuff. But here really is relegatedto a couple of key scenes. But
before we get into all that,um, you know, as I don't
mind this movie, I have neverreally compared to the story of the video
games. What I think it's tryingto be more in anything, it's like
kind of somewhere between the Pirates ofthe Caribbean and the Mummy, like the
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Brent Frazier or the Mummy. Likeit's like sitting right between those two stylistically
to me. And in fact,there's a lot of stuff where it's like,
yep, it's Jerry Bruckheimer, youknow, even though and it's one
of those crazy things. It's likeMike Newell at the time, I guess
he'd made a Harry Potter movie.I think he made the fourth one.
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Anyway, he'd made a Harry Pottermovie, so he had at this point
credentials in movie blockbusters, but hewas like an art house director for a
while and then he was like ayou know, your big star, real
you know draw you know. Helike he made Closer with Natalie Portman and
Clive Owen and Shoot Law and hemade Mona Lisa Smile with Julie Rock.
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He made all these, you know, prestige dramas, and to go from
that to Princess Persia is weird becauseit doesn't feel like one of his movies
at all. It doesn't feel likea Mike Newell movie. It feels more
like, you know, what Goverbinskiwas doing with Pirates. And then you
think like, okay, what's thecome denominator? It's Bruckheimer. And then
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you think of like, what elseis Bruckman done. Okay, he did
you know, Armageddon, and thatalso had libertari in characters who talked about
how much they had tech taxes alot. That's like, there's like things
in this where it's just like that'sa Brockheimer thing. The Alfred Molina playing
the Desert Bandit, who is reallyjust like a wacky libertarian who hates bureocracy
and taxes as one hundred percent theBrockheimer thing. So it feels like it's
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kind of in that vein or comparedto like all the movies that were trying
to be Pirates of the Caribbean atthat time, you know, like the
Haunted Mansion movie. M that's kindof the category that I would stick this
in, even though it's a videogame movie. It feels more like,
you know, after Disney had ahit on their hand with Pirates, they
tried to you know, Loan Ranger. They tried to replicate that kind of
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style of movie over and over andnever, and this falls in that in
that category. But actually it's likea Miley decent one of those. So
you have your kind of Okay,so let's just go through the story.
I guess then you can tell mehow it's all wrong. But let's just
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go through the story. So yougot basically three brothers. Did you want
me to wait till you were doneto tell you things are wrong? No?
No, tell me the things arewrong immediately that you saw him more
recently. That the fact that it'sthree brothers. Okay, it's two brothers
and one adopted brother. That's alsoif you want to go I was talking
about it. If you want meto tell me if it was wrong from
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the game. Oh yeah, no, no, no, let me get
because we could do this. Wecould do this a whole podcast. I
could just say wrong because it happensa lot. No, no, let's
not do that. That'd be toodisruptive. I will just say this.
I'll throw it out real quick.Um, he's not adopted in the game.
He is just the son of theking, by the way, the
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evil person, which in the movieand the game are both the most obvious
evil person I've ever seen. Yes, but other than being Gandhi, I
don't I have a hard time thinkof I guess he was the father in
ho If you've ever played Civilization,you know Gandhi is not good either.
So no, no, he's ahe's a bastard. But to be fair,
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I just just so it out thereagain. He is not the brother
of the king like he is inthe movie. He is just the advisor.
It's just this whole movie was like, well, there was not a
there's not a lot of there's nota lot of story in this video game.
So what do we do. Well, we make our main character an
orphan that will give him more,and they give him the Aladdin kind of
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origin story with the you know,being chased through the market. But then
he comes, you know, acrossthe king who is doing a tour of
the grounds for some reason, andthe king recognizes greatness in him and adopts
him as one of his own.Like totally happens in these kind of scenarios,
right, We always see people justjust ignore a class like that.
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But and the and the two brothersare totally cool with it. And it's
the uncle that absolutely hates it.Yeah, they totally cool, Like this
is a funny love him, Iguess, I mean, I guess up
until the point. Here's the thing, this is, this is very weird
to me. And I'll jump aheada little bit in the story with the
brothers. Um, So, thebrothers obviously completely turn on Aladdin. What's
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his real name? What's what's theprincess? I think? And that's Tom
yes, yes, ye yeah yeah, so, um they totally turn on
him after they think that he killedtheir dad whatever that makes sense. But
even before then, the oldest brotheris shown to be like he's making like
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weird rape insinuations towards the queen ofthis kingdom. He's just conquered, and
it's just generally being a huge bastard. And later on it's revealed that it
was really just Ben Kingsley who wastricking him into, you know, thinking
that they were weapons of mass destruction. And so okay, we got by
the way like, oh, thisis a Bush era movie because we're talking
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about where are the wmdsum in Persia? But so we start out, we've
got these three brothers. One ofthem was adopted, you know, he
was he was a street urchin.The king took him in because he saw
greatness in him, and now he'sone of the family. And no one
had a problem with this up untilthings start to go wrong, which is
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about now because Ben Kingsley has convincedthem that this Persian, this rival Persian
kingdom that I don't even remember ifthey're it's named or not, but that
they've got this, they've got somekind of weapon horde that they've been importing
from some other group, and they'regearing up for war and they're secretly arming
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themselves and there's like a stash theseweapons hidden the way somewhere. And if
we don't act now and conquer theircity and take over, then who knows
what they're gonna do, and youknow, obviously we know that the king
is against this, but he's notthere, and gust Duston does not really
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do enough. He Duston does aninteresting thing which I quite liked, which
when he realizes that like his brothersare dead set on like he can't talk
to him out of it, orhe doesn't really do enough to talk to
him out of it, I guess, but really he does not. I
don't think he would have been able. Later on, he gets chastised for
like, you know, a goodman did what you did, but a
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great man would have stopped it altogether. And you're like, I don't really
think he had the power or thedata to make them stop at that point.
Like he's not really able to stopthe invasion until the very end of
the movie where he goes back intown with all the information that he's gleamed
from his time travels. But atthe point he really doesn't have much that
he can do rather than to youknow, break in himself, you know,
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climb over the wall, sneak in, open the gates from the inside
to at least, you know,during the invasion, minimize loss of life.
And he does that pretty well andas such, you know, even
though the queen of the conquered townhates him at first, eventually she starts
to realize that he's kind of adecent guy. And you know when he
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is then framed for the father's murder. So at the point where the father,
you know, takes the crown issupposed to take the crown, he's
you know, his brother gives himthis like shawl for him for his or
like this like robe before his dadto put on, and the robe is
poisoned, so he like melts awayinto a into a shriveled, little little
nothing thing, you know, ingreat pain. There's like just it's like
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the most dramatic, you know,it's like the whatever acid is lining this
suit. It's just like crazy.It's like the green balls from the rock
or something. The way this guystarts disintegrating and smoking from this robe.
But yeah, so he gets hegets poisoned, and then of course Duston
is blamed for it. He thinksit's his brother because the brother gave him
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the rope, but really the ropegot the brother from I mean, the
brother got the rope from Ben Kingsley. So Ben Kingsley's behind everything, but
at this point he's like, Ihave some use for this hot princess.
I will force her to marry mefor my hair and all this stuff.
That's like, really, I don'tknow, I feel like they cheat a
little bit with the depiction of thischaracter as far as, like, you
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know, at the you know,by the beginning of the third act,
pretending that he was good all along. It's like, I don't know,
there are some real red flags ofhis behavior, regardless of whether he's been
deceived or not. Right, Imean, obviously the brothers, I mean,
Edge just shows anytime you have achance at power, the whole corruption
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deal, and that's exactly what BenKingsley is trying to do. His character
is like, hey, if Ican tell these brothers that, hey,
you can become king if you dothis, it's gonna be great. It's
gonna be fantastic. And then andthen they they think of the power that
they can obtain, and then theydo stupid shit. Yep. And the
thing I really loved throughout the movieit's almost like a running joke too.
I don't think it was intended asa joke, is that every time that
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Duston convinces one of his brothers tocome onto his side, like convinces him
of the truth, convinces him ofthe fact that Ben Kingsley was behind it,
or just that he's not guilty.As soon like thirty seconds after they
realize, after they're on his side, they will get murdered. Like he
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turns every one of his brothers,he turns to his side, where they're
like, oh, Duston, really, you know, we're you're you're really
the you know we've been deceived andwe're on your side now up arrowed.
You know, there's just instantly anassassin will show up and throw some daggers
or whatever in their chest, sothat as soon as you know, so
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he doesn't have any allies, right, as soon as he's got a brother
on his side, you've got adispose of that character instantly, so they're
out of the story. But notthat it matters, since he's gonna,
you know, turn everything that happenedback at the end anyway. But the
way he does this, and Idon't even remember how, he just kind
of like gets this dagger in theinvasion, This dagger kind of falls into
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his lap and it's just a daggerwith a handle that's got like an hourglass
full of sand in it and abig ridiculous, fat red gem button at
the top and when you press thegem button, it makes time go backwards
and you can use that to cheatin fist fights and stuff, which he
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does a lot. He does alot of of well not a lot,
but you know in key moments whenhe when he loses a fight or it's
just about to lose a fight,that's usually when it comes into play.
And yeah, he's got this dagger, and he and the Queen go on
the run and then there in thedesert for a while and they meet the
libertarian desert pirates and again there's awhole movie well because Alfred Molina's fucking awesome,
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great great, great character, greatactor. Also it's the best set
piece of the movie because I thoughtthe like the Ostrich race was like a
genuinely cool thing, Like I've notseen an Ostrich race in the movie before,
and it was done really well.Can I just say, look like
the saddest animals. Oh yeah,their eyes are pretty droopy, just I
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mean the way they run and obviouslythey keep their heads straight so their next
just go out goofy. It islike those poor bastards. Yeah, with
that said, whenever I do die, that's what I'm going to turn into
in my next life, apparently isgoing to be an Ostrich well, and
they make a thing like there's likejokes about how like Alfred Molina is concerned
that like the last of his ostrichis is depressed because the other ones are
not with him anymore, and allthe stuff is it's cute, what's not
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so cute? As again, theykind of do the like, uh,
you know, everybody's leering at theprincess, and at some point, Dusta
basically trades the princess for the daggerbecause at this point, you know,
Molina's gotten the dagger and he tradesthe prince for it, and again there's
a bunch of like, nah,what are you gonna do with her?
You know, chokes, and thenthey're just using her to serve drinks at
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the Ostrich Trace, So we gotyou know, that's when we kind of
start to realize that Alfra Mallina isnot such a bad guy. He's not
a pirate. He's just a businessmanwho hates rules and regulations, and he's
so funny he's so good and andgive credit to um who is it the
place the dagger guy? Oh,that's so, I think it is a
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character's name. Yeah, he's cool, dude, whoever plays him. It
was really really good in that roletoo, and just kind of kind of
does miss and he kind of throwsin his stuff and yep, it was
that duo was great. Yep,And he gets of a nice heroic,
heroic death because of course, bythe end of the movie, Molina and
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his pirates and and our heroes teamup to you know, prevent this ritual
that Ben Kingsley is gonna pull.I mean, there's a bunch of stuff
that happens in between the two thatwe can probably skip over some of it.
I mean, the important things arelike at Duston is convinced that he
needs to go back, you know, after they fled to the desert,
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they then have to go back tothe town so that he can talk to
Ben Kingsley and get the truth out. And that's when he realized when he
when he has that conversation with BenKingsley again, he realizes that like Kingsley
knows too much about things that heshouldn't or it was when he sees that
his hands are burned. Yeah,the hand he sees that, he sees
that the hands are burned. You'reright, that that he was handling.
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It's like, oh he said itwas when he was trying to save the
king, but I never saw himhandle the cloth, so he must have
handled the cloth before. So yeah, that's really And then also you know
ben Kingsley's being like very like uh, you know, like hmm, what
this dagger tell me? More soall that kind of leaves duston just kind
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of hurry off, you knowing thatBen kings is behind it all and trying
to again seeking out his brothers andthen getting all of his brothers killed,
and then realizing that ben Kingsley's goaland his whole backstory is that he saved
the king at some point that theywere on a hunt and the king almost
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got mauled by was it a tigeror a line? He was it was
some animal pain, I think,Okay, whatever, Yeah, he almost
got mauled by line and Ben Kingsleysaved him, and now he regrets saving
him because he would have been king. And I guess he's had many,
many many years to decide that.Oh I shouldn't have been so idealistic as
a young man. So he wantsto turn back time and basically rewrite history
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so that he's king all along.He gets to have a lifetime as king.
But you know, once you unleashedthe sands, So the sands,
what's the backstory of the sands?It was a punishment from the gods at
one point, and then there waslike a woman who sacrificed herself off as
who like presented herself as a sacrificeof the gods to to you know,
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to show that there's still some goodpeople. Yeah. So basically from where
I remember it is, you know, the gods gave of man all this
power than power or that man obviouslyused the power corruptedly, and the gods
disliked it, so they sent thiswhole big sandstorm to take out all of
man, and then some girl beggedthem not to do it, and they
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basically put all that sand in thishour glass or this temple or whatever you
want to go with, and thenbasically, if if shit goes down again,
they will unleash the sands and createthis whole horrible thing. And that's
exactly what Ben Kingsley's character is tryingto do is just I don't want to
rule the world. I want todestroy the world. And oh is that
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the fun? We only is itrevealed that he really just wants to destroy
the world. He lets it allout. It's going to destroy the whole
areas. I don't think. Ithink he's just incredibly reckless and irresponsible.
I think he wants to turn backtime to be king and doesn't believe that
he's going to destroy the world bydoing this. I think he probably I
could be mixing that with the game, because no, I think Ben Kingsley
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wants I think he thinks that hecan control it, but of course he
can't control it. That could beme mixing it in with the game's plot,
because the game's plot is he tricksthe main character who is his name
was in the games I don't care, yeah, but but real quick.
So basically, he tricks him intoputting the dagger into the hourglass at the
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beginning of the game, and insteadof creating a big giant sandstorm, it
turns everyone into zombies. Okay,and then you just fight zombies the whole
time. That's the entire game,as you fighting all the zombies and then
try to fix what you did.So, like I said, the plot
of the game and the plot ofthe movie absolutely different. Other than that
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the Ben Kingsley's character, who isnot the brother of the king in the
game, is wanting to have andyou're just stuff, are there other sons
of the king besides the main character? Okay, not that they show in
the first game. Like I said, I haven't played the rest of the
series, but hm, now yeah, I don't really I barely remember what
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the one that I played was about. I just remember it had a lot
of I remember that the way thatthe two thousand and eight I think there's
two thousand and eight or nine,the way that that reboot Prince of Persia
was laid out, it kind ofturned the entire game into a long quctim
event. That's a lot of thatgame because you had to you know,
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like, let's say that you hadto climb. You know, I'm going
to climb from here to here,and there's this pathway and there really is
only one correct way to traverse thispathway, and every section of it it's
like, okay, vines have thiskind of button prompt and the little hooks
from the ceiling have this kind ofbutton prompt and so on and so forth.
So it then really just becomes doingall the button prompts and exactly like
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there's It doesn't feel like there's anyIt never felt like there was any freedom
to it. That was my bigcomplaint. But it felt like, do
this predetermined series of button prompts totraverse this environment and just and do it
perfectly or you get set back alittle bit. So it just tried like
a long quick time event the wholegame. Yeah, the reboot came out
in two thousand and eight, whichis a couple of years after resid Evil
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four really pushed the quick time eventstuff forward. The Sands of Time,
which this movie is supposed to bebased off of US two thousand and three
and really built like the Parkourse stuff. It was like it was before Assassin's
Creed. I'm pretty sure I doyou want to talk about the Parkourse stuff.
This movie has Parkourse stuff in it, And I will say this,
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it didn't impress me back in thetheater in two thousand and six, but
having since watched the Assassin's Creed moviemultiple times once with you, it really
makes the Parkourse stuff in this movielook great. By comparison, Like it
really makes me appreciate that, likeI can see what, I can follow
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what's happening. It's like film normally. It's got a decent color palette.
The stunts are well done, Likein fact, I will give this movie
this, Like it's not like ithas the greatest action set pieces, but
what is there is very well puttogether, like highly competent as far as
just you know, your basic filmcraft, editing, cinematography, you know,
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film score. The score is greatestHarry Gregson Williams of Shrek fame,
so and I enjoyed that quite abit. But it also it was kind
of drifting it. It felt likeit was doing Maybe that's why I was
thinking of The Mummy and Pirates ofthe Curving because the soundtrack reminded me of
both of them. But like everythingabout the production to me is like,
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does this a competent Hollywood movie?And its biggest flaw honestly is that like
it kind of relies a little bittoo much on the We haven't really talked
about the Princess yet very much.The Princess played by Jemma Arturton. Jemma
Arturton is a British actress that Iactually really love. Um, she's She's
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Tomorrow, Drew. Have you've everseen that movie. She's in the Disappearance
of Alice Creed. She's actually areally fantastic actress. And I think our
character in this doesn't really give eventhough she gets actually gets more to dude,
and I remembered like she gets quitea bit to do in the first
third of the movie. But herthere's too much well excuse me, princess
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business going on, you know,too much of the That's that's a lot
of Jerry Bruckharmer movies again. Imean, yeah, the Treasures the same
way other Prince are Pirates of theCaribbean movies are that way. It's just,
yeah, you have to have thetwo love interests really just and bigger
each other and bigger and and that'swhere he finds his comedy. And it
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happens a lot. There's a lotof it, and I will give a
credit again watch it going back andwatching the cut scenes of the Prince of
Persia game that the princess and yourmain character do bicker. Okay, so
that is a thing. I'll justsay this again. This is a decent
enough movie if it didn't have Princeof Persia on it. But it has
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very little to do with Prince ofPersia. Though, again, going back
and watching all the cut scenes fromthe first game, they do what they
can to try to expand on whatwas pretty bare as far as a story
goes from that game. However,I really just feel like they go too
far with it and it goes toolong. This does not need to be
a two hour movie at all.Like they throw in the weird assassins that
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with the snake, and they showup a couple of times they were not
needed at all. I think thatcould have saved you fifteen twenty minutes.
While I absolutely love the prison desertscene, I think a couple of those
go a little long, and oneone scene too many. This could have
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been a ninety minute movie easy,and I would have stomached it more.
But it was making I mean,it's hour and forty five. I think
it's kind of the minimum that theywere trying to hit. I think with
this it was it's too long.By the end of it. I was
looking at the watch and going allright, where I'm I'm over it.
If they would have hit ninety minuteson this thing, I think it would
have flowed. But you got torealize this at a time when these exactly
(26:26):
this like genre for adventure movie wasgetting longer and longer, you know,
the Curbbean movies were going from liketwo to twenty to like two and a
half to three hours. It's alsowhy they aren't being made anymore. Well,
yeah, now they aren't. There'sall sorts of reasons for that.
You know. Once once that wasgone, they couldn't gone. And and
comic book movies took over, butthat too, Oh and those are also
(26:48):
super long. Son. Actually,this to me feels like a pretty average
movie for length, But I agree, would it be better if it were
ninety minutes and just kind of asnappy you know, with a ninety minute
movie, a lot of you know, it's a lot more forgivable because it
just, you know, even ifit's bad, moving along really fast,
and and it's at least you know, the plots moving forward. Were you
right, there's there's quite a bitof what you know, you might describe
(27:11):
as filler in this um. Butwhat I was trying to get it with
the casting as I love Jim orArtist, and I just felt like she
wasn't really used correctly, and ofcourse they basically put her in brown face
to be a Persian princess, whichis the same thing with just the whole
Like y, Jake Gildenhall, Imean, I realized it's a tired complaint.
(27:32):
Well, it's a lot of itis you just go look at how
much movie this made? How much? How much money is movie made?
Yeah, and the movie made abunch of money. I did well.
I mean it didn't do like amazing, but it did well. Budget on
hundred and fifty to two hundred millionin box office was three hundred and thirty
six million. Yeah, it's asuccess. It's a success, which a
(27:52):
lot of that comes on to hey, Jake, Joe and draw or Joe
and Hall is hot right now golet's go. Yeah. Yeah, I
can see what Taylor Swift saw himat this time. So I mean,
that's the that's the reason why JakeJonah. I mean, obviously, luckily,
I think you know, Hollywood isgoing away from that a little bit
(28:14):
and we're not whitewashing all these moviesas much as we used to. But
that was that we were still whitewashingin two thousand and six. It just
feels too recent, but I guessthat was it was the style at the
time. Yep, So, sirs, it's time to rate. Yes,
sir, so, I will tellyou I I had in mind at a
(28:34):
certain rating, and then you remindedme that we have watched Assassin's Creed.
And I looked at my scores,and at the time I had given it
the exact same scores Assassin's Creed.This is better than Assassin's Creed. So
I will bout my score up slightlyand I will give Prince of Persia a
five. Mm hmm. See,I don't know. I feel like it's
(28:56):
better than that. I mean justas a and again not giving a shit
about the games whatsoever, just lookingat it as you know, a fun
adventure movie from that era of funadventure movies. I think this is like
a six. That's fair. Ican't hate it. I mean it's more
did I give I gave ratche andClank of six, right, you gave
(29:19):
Ratchett and Clank of five? Okay, good? Then this is a six.
That makes sense because I definitely feelcompared to the last movie Ratchet and
Clank, this is so much better. It's infinitely better about infinitely. But
but I mean, like it's areal do you feel like you're not wasting
your time? You know? Oras much? That's fair. That's fair
(29:44):
that you feel that way and thatand we've already played that. That's what
I mean. It's not like it'snot worth sticking a video game cutscene in
a movie theater. That would bereally if I'd seen Ratchet and Clank in
the movie theater, Like, howpissed would you be? You go,
you play the game, and thentwo weeks later you go see them movie
and you see the thing that youalready know. Right, that's fair,
that's fair. But again, ifyou had never never had played the game
(30:07):
it was it was a decent movie, it would be fine, I guess.
But yeah, but this, tome, it's more worthwhile. It's
got people in it that I like. Molina is very funny. It has
all those brockhimerisms that are like funto like think about and point out.
But they're of course, you know, very stupid. Um and yeah,
that's the parts of Persia. It'sit's a dumb fun thing to me,
(30:30):
But I get you five five seemsI can understand. It's defensible. I
see where you're coming from, allright, So there you go. That
is Prince of Persia. So nowit is time for me to announce my
next game. I haven't even becauseI did not think about until just before
we started recording. It is ourtwenty fifth movie, sir, oh man
(30:51):
um, let me tell go ahead? No, no, okay, go
on uh once again. I liketo look at anniversaries first, as far
as like picking different movies, andthis movie, in the month of July
will hit its twentieth anniversary, soI figured this would be a good time.
(31:11):
And other than the resident Evil movies, I think this is the first
time we are watching a sequel.Oh is it the second tomb Rater?
It is Laura Croft tomb Rater theCradle of Life. I figured it'd be
a good one too, after thewhole Prince of Persia time manipulation. The
first Laura Croft one had timing manipulation. I'm going to guess this one does
(31:33):
too. I've never seen the secondone. I'm going to fully admit right
now I haven't either, So thereyou go. We have no idea what
we're going to get into. However, when I did look it up,
it is a two hour movie,so I've probably got life because it is
probably also far too long. Butwe will see how that one goes.
(31:55):
First, tomb Rater, it wasninety minutes, so they've moved away from
that. Yeah, disappointing, Sothere you go. That'll be our next
episode. Laura Croft, tomb RaiderThe Cradle of Light. I've got twenty
five different movies after we view thatone. That's a good thick. We
had to do that sooner or later. I appreciate your take. I there
(32:15):
was a couple I thought that weregoing to be really brutal, but I
decided to be nice to us andhopefully watch a decent movie. But we
will see. All right, Yan, That's that's enough of us here this
time. We will see you thenext time on chapters select at the movies.
But until then, you guys,have a fantastic day. Jeerio
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