July 11, 2023 • 34 mins
Jens and Randy are back to follow up on the further adventures of Dumb Lara Croft, the variant of the character portrayed by Angelina Jolie, in Jan De Bond’s The Cradle of Life. Will this reckless and selfish version of the character finally learn not to needlessly endanger all of humanity, or will she repeat all of the same mistakes again? Gerard Butler also stars as the new Daniel Craig.
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Hello, and welcome to Chapters Selectat the Movies, the show where Randy
and Eye I'm ends we watch moviesbased on video games and then discuss what
we liked and didn't like about them, you know, whether they work as
pieces of art, so to speak. Now, this week we are covering
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Jan Dubond's classic follow up to SimonWest's original tomb Raider with Angina Julie,
which I think we've done already,so giving us a nice basis for this
review. Did the first one MMand if I recall correctly, we thought
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that that movie was a bit ofa mess. I thought it was,
Yeah, Aaron felt unfinished, feltlike they were bits missing. I remember
I remember us talking about it.I think back when it first came out
and remembered it as being okay.And then we rewatched it for this and
I was like, it's it's fine, but not as you said, things
are missing, And then neither ofus had watched the sequel before until it's
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not very interesting to see how bothof us liked this one. By the
way, this is our twenty fifthmovie on this show. Wow, twenty
five nice? So what did youthink? Just quick overall thoughts of the
movie before we start breaking it downmore. Well, I feel like they've
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addressed a lot of my complaints aboutthe first movie. That's something I have
to give it. I gotta giveit credit, you know. And with
the first movie, I complained abouthow are the Jali's version of Lara Croft
was a huge idiot, how shewas leading. Basically, without her,
there would be no expedition, andshe could easily thought the bad guy's plan.
And the only reason she's even riskinghumanity is for the selfish reason for
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you to see her dad one moretime. She's going to risk all of
existence. So I thought she wasa hugely irresponsible character in the first movie
and kind of an asshole, Andin this movie they've made her more likable.
Of course, we're still spending timewith her two best buds. I
don't remember the actors, but it'sthe guy who plays Arnold Rimmer and the
guy who plays Adolf Hitler in Max. So it's fun to see Arnold Rimmer
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and Ado Hitler hanging out a lotin this movie together. I like all
their scenes could interplay. So theyreturned, which is nice. You know,
her butler and her tech guy,very t guy, and or hackerr
friend, whatever you want to callhim. He will always be Hitler to
me. But the point is theyyou know, they have pretty good continuity
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of the last movie. Like thelast movie, we start with her training
and then being pulled into an adventure. And the best thing I can say,
it's a very simple movie. Idon't think we'll need to spend a
lot of time describing the ins andouts of the plot. One way to
say it sure in the fact thatit follows I think the basic plot outline
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of three out of five Indiana Jonesmovies, So you know exactly what to
expect. You're going to get thosebeats you're going to get. You know,
it's the Germany nineteen forty four andLara Croft has to get the oar
back from the Nazi train or whateverhappens. But you know that's not what
happens, obviously, it's actually andI thought this was interesting because you had
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messaged me, I should say,Randy saw this movie like weeks ago,
and I just saw this movie tonight, so you're relying on my immediate
memory and ran these long term memory. I took some notes, not a
lot of notes, but I tooksome notes But the thing that I was
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remembering is that a couple of weeksago you did text me that you thought
the opening to this movie was sooutlandish and so crazy, and you hope
that it, you know, tampsdown after that, and watching it,
to me, it was incredibly reminiscentof the beginning of the second Reboot game,
where you know, Lara's on expedition, and you know, just as
she gets the artifact, she getsambushed by a bunch of dudes. So
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it didn't seem to outlandish to me, and the sharks stuff also seemed in
character. I actually thought that themovie was pretty strong in its first act.
Conversation, I hated this opening actso much. Okay, the whole
sharks. The whole sharks thing isjust ridiculous. I'm gonna cut my hand,
the sharks gonna just swim by me, forget I'm holding onto his find
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me all the way back up tothe surface, and then forget I'm bleeding,
and just leave me. You wouldnot think that was a cool game
mechanic if you summoned the shark inthe tomb Rader game with your own blood.
No, okay, well, wasn'tthere a tomb Rader Game Before a
Tomb Rader had a reboot where youwere underwater and dealing with the shark,
of course, and it was horrendouslyreviewed. Was that was the engel of
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Darkness or whatever? I don't know. There's a big gap in ter that
I just did not play. I'veactually never finished the first one. I
will first now, because yes,I did message MS saying that I hoped
that it would get better from theopening scene. It did not. Oh
man, no, because so sohold on. So I want to address
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a couple of things before we getinto the ins and outs of this movie,
because you brought up your overall thoughtsand I think none of it was
true. But Laura, while isnot she's not an asshole. She's not
much of a character anymore so becauseshe has an arc, her arc,
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she has to learn the lesson thatit's better to let some secrets lie and
it's better for some things to beunfound, and that she probably shouldn't open
Pandora's box. That's the thing whatI was trying to get at is I
felt in the last movie she wasa completely irresponsible asshole. Right in this
movie she starts off better. Infact, she's not leading on or working
with the bad guys for most ofthe movie, but rather she is kind
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of tracking behind them to try andget this important artifact back. Because,
of course, as in all ofthese kind of stories, again this exact
story structure, you always have thesmall mcguffin artifact that leads to the big
mcguffin artifact at the end of themovie that you have to find with it
again, India and Jones, andthey do a lot of stuff that they
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do, like there's like Last Crusadestuff in here, There's Raiders stuff in
here, James Bond stuff in here. Um, so the influences are are
pretty clear what this movie is tryingto be. You know, it's trying
to and it's not even to anyof them. This also came out,
but she just learned to lessen,to not open Pandora's box. I mean,
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that's the absolute minimum, to notjust be the biggest It took two
in exist hours of a horrendous moviefor us to get to that character redemption
moment. This I just looked itup while you were talking. This came
out three years after Mission Impossible two, which really started a horrible movie which
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you pushed that series to the overthe topness that it would then go down
and wait, you know what,We're going to do the exact same thing.
So like all of the little bitof charm that was in the first
tumb Rat movie is completely stripped awayfor set pieces, and Angelina Jolie to
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have lovers quarrel with Gerard Butler,who and that relationship was. It is
mind numbing to me. It's theworst part of the movie, and especially
because it is just a complete retreadafter Daniel Craig relationship in the First's exactly
what I put in my notes.I go, they had to have a
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love interest in this movie, andthey killed off the boyfriend from the first
one, so they needed to bringback an old flame that was a little
bit the entire time that he's goingto betray her at the end for the
artifact, and it's just it's justset piece after set piece after set piece.
This is what they fastened the Furiousmovies would become. But at least
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fastened the Furious had great cgi tocover up their messes. Here's the thing
about it. I want to notea few positives though. Firstly, yond
bond right, he is one ofthe great effects guys, one of the
great cinematographers, and a pretty gooddirector in his own right. I mean,
he made Speed for crying out loud, he also made Speed too,
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but the Yang exactly exactly two sidesof the same coin. We're not so
different, you and I. Buthe has a good visual sense, and
apart from what is one sequence that'sprobably the worst day for night I've seen
in a modern movie where he literallyjust tinted a day shot blue in the
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most I don't know what I thoughtdigital color grading would have been slightly further.
Does this post or brother art though? Isn't it? Or is it?
Is it pre regardless, I wouldhave expected a better job on that.
But other than that, I actuallythink it's a pretty good looking movie.
It's sometimes a little drab, butthen when it doesn't bring color back
into it, it actually looks reallygood. Like you know, at the
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Pandora's Box scene at the end,I thought all that stuff looked really good.
I thought the caves that they gothrough on their way to Pandora's Box
very reminiscent of some kind of souls, uh designs. You know, it
felt very souls, including creatures thatdon't fully really fade into trees or whatever.
That message. Yeah, yeah,all that stuff was just like,
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oh man, this doesn't feel liketumb Rator, but does feel like dark.
So obviously this is before it's time, but this it felt like uncharted.
Yeah, yeah, there's definitely someof that. We're just gonna have
random mass creatures at the end ofthe game because supernatural. Oh yeah,
absolutely. I didn't really have anissue with that stuff. I generally think
this movie is I mean, there'ssupernatural ones to all the tomb Rators except
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for I think the next one thatwe're gonna watch where they stripped that stuff
out in the game. There wasin the game there are supernatural monsters at
the end of the game. Theylooked bad. I'm not saying it was
dumb, but the first movie.I don't really have an issue with this
in terms of in terms of effectsor whatever other than well, yeah,
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okay again, we're going back tolast Crusade, right, you get this
same um. I have really jumpedahead on this because we're already talking about
because I'm too excited to talk aboutit, I guess. But the Crusade
fine conversation. The parallels are strongbecause you have the you know, we're
dangling down the abyss and you haveto choose been saving the one person and
getting the thing. Um you havethem. Yeah. Basically this this whole
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movie is we're going to take otherthings and then not do it as well,
and then we're going to throw ina motor cycle drive across the Great
Wall of China because um, weare going to have them pole vault off.
I forget what the pole vault thingis. All I have in my
notes is fucking pole vault. God. I hate this movie. That's my
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note. But what what I wasjust trying to remember was that the the
face melting in Last Crusade kind ofreminds me of what they're doing here with
the probably the worst effect in themovie where they melt the bad guy in
the acid pool, which, like, there are so many things where you're
just like, oh, yeah,you're taking the same and it really is
the same structure, the same kindof story beat, And it also reminded
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me a lot. You know,I just watched Dial of Destiny, that
the last Indiana Jones movie, andit did the same thing where we start
by stealing an artifact and then wegot captured and then we free ourselves again,
and then we steal the artifact back, and then we on the run
for a while and there's a bunchof chase scenes and then we get captured
again and then they take the artifactin the weekend. Can we break out
again and then we steal the artifactback? Can we talk about that artifact
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for one moment? Yes? Theartifact is a big glowy orb which turns
out to be a map. It'slike a giant It looks like something that
you'd buy in like a Spencer's gift. This just yellow orange crystal orb with
black spots all over it. Butof course what those turn out to be
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is coordinate. So it's a bigmagical artifact. And they do the Raiders
thing. They do the map roomscene in Raiders with the where when he
when she gets into just the rightplace that it gets illuminated and there's a
huge kind of hologram vision that emsfrom Can we can we talk about that
hologram vision for a moment? Yeah, we can't. What the fuck?
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So I get it that this issupposed to show you where it is in
um Indiana Jones. It works becausethe thing just points out where you need
to go in the map. Shehad big she had big visions at the
end of the last movie. Butno, it's not her visions, it's
the ORBS visions. So this ORB, which was created centuries ago, has
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panoramic three sixty degree HD video thatdoes not show you where it is,
but just shows you highlights of howcool Africa is. That's true. It
isn't is fun kind of travelog seIt's just a travel Here's elephants, here's
a tree, here's straw. Thisis something what are talking about as well,
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which is that the attempts of thismovie to make Longcroft seem cool all
weirdly pathetic. It's all as yousay, it's like, oh, it's
just a travelogue or you know,like when they go wing diving or whatever.
Sure, it's like, you know, it's cool that they that they
wing dive, but we don't thatcool. We don't need to, you
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know, get all these glory shotsand dedicate a three minute sequence to it.
They stood on that squirrel suit shotfirst. It's so cool, it's
so cool. It was brutal.However, I just that ORB was basically
like, here's some like a YouTubemontage that a twelve year old made of
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Africa for their student project, andshe goes, ah, we gotta go
to Zimbabwe. Huh. What Ido like about it is that she does
it in front of this family,where she basically borrows her TV and repurposes
it as a display for her likelive feed. But but at least the
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moment seems like at least the boyfriendgoes to that exact same apartment building to
figure out where she went. Yeah, but I just like that sequence because
it just makes it seem like,you know, she's so cool for the
way that she assembles or Jerry ricksthat whole thing, just so she can,
you know, do what we've fallento that stuff too. Even and
again she's I mean sure, sure, sure, I'm just saying like it's
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like presented as this like crowning badassmoment, you know what I mean.
So I guess so you have nailedthe part of this movie perfectly. Find
or Lose or Get or Blues.We talked about the villain we need to
talk about because it's firstly it's SyrianHynes Um you know, the poor Man's
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Ellen Rickman and more, poor,poor, poor, poor I could not
have cared any less than I didfor this villain and his little sidekick dude,
which I've seen him in movies before, and I'm black who it was,
Oh Schweiger. Um, we'll getto see a lot more of him
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at spoilers for a couple of moviesfrom now. Uh huh yeah, but
um yeah, Jie Schweiger completely wastedas just as basically just a chief henchman.
That may have been the worst asa movie scale we've had in any
of our movies yet. Okay,so let's talk about who this guy is.
This is again the equivalent of likeyour typical Matt Nazi scientist in Yeah
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Jones movie who wants to do thingsfor Nazi reasons. In this case,
he's still a mad scientist, andhe's like some kind of a weird death
merchant where he manufactures super diseases ina in a hutang lab somewhere and then
sells it to weird criminals who needsuper diseases all around the world. I
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guess dictators and stuff. I don'tknow where. I don't see this level
of crazy German warfare really happening,so I don't know where that came from.
And of course, he has nowlearned of the existence of Pandora's Box,
which is where all the anti energyin the world is stored. Because
you know, everything has to beperfectly balanced, as all things should be,
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so you know, for everything thatlives, there has to be an
anti force, and this anti forceis contained in the box. And Shark
Butler wants to steal the box andsell it for money. And this this
guy whatever, he wants to basicallymake a new super disease that he can
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do whatever with. I don't know, I don't know what he's going to
do with it. Is he goingto ransom the world? Is he gonna
sell it for profit? Is hegonna, you know, death this damn
thing and just take over the world. He's gonna hold up the box and
say, if you do not giveme everything I want, I opened the
box. That's okay. Yeah,so he's just gonna he's gonna demand I
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want one billion dollars in exchange forme not to open the Pandora's Box.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Anyway, he actually think that he's
just the guy who really loves killingor he wants to. He probably wants
to genocide, you know, andlike he wants to be able to target,
like I want to target just thisgenetic subtype or whatever. I don't
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know, that's very racist, butit feels that way in terms of again,
he's basically a Nazi but under anyother name. Yeah, it's just
you know, now it's like inthe name of commerce. But it doesn't
really make sense because what I mean, I do get that there's probably profit
in this sort of thing, butnot to the extent that his plans would
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require. And he's just very boring. He's bland, and there's really no
character to him other than I'm smartand I want to kill I want to
let loose. Yeah, I wantto let loose the worst disease on the
world, which you know, newsflash, we all know how that ends.
But I just don't. I justdon't get he's like he's a poor
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man's Bond villain. I mean,there's bondville that do kind of the same
thing. That's actually what I'm thinkingabout quite a bit, is stuff like
you know, the spy who lovedMe or whatever. It's rough. I
mean, it's just to me,this stripped down all of the clever things
from the first movie, which wasriddled with plot holes and issues in its
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own sense, but at least ithad some charm and just went set piece
set piece, We need a reallycool fight. So now all of a
sudden, this guy is going toshow Laura his cool ancient warrior statue collection,
so then we can fight around thosewhich, by the way, half
of those look like paper machee.Yeah, when they broke through them,
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and it just it's like there weresome good special effects that were not in
that scene at all, but itwas only used there and you could the
moment they walked into like, allwe're fighting here instantly. It's only there
to try to come up with coolset pieces. Same thing with the fight
with the helicopter in the city street. And where were they? Was it
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Hong Kong or where were they at? I couldn't keep at some point like
Honduras and in Africa and wherever?Then remember or the Cradle of Life,
the Cradle of Life where they eventuallyfind the Pandora's books. Do you remember
or something? Right? Zimbabwe orsomething? It was Madagascar is a different
movie. It was to show howmuch impression think it was. It was
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a video game based on it,I guess, but I don't think there's
any video game based on the movieMadagascar, but I don't think then they
re they made a movie based onthat video game, so we can't cover
it. But no, unfortunately,no, I can't get the way with
that. I would have rather watchedhonestly than did this. And the movie
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we're going to talk about next week, Oh my god, probably who can
say? Anyways, Um, whatI love about this review and he just
hijacking your format of the show isI've been able to avoid just the bit
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by bit of it because none ofit made sense and all of it was
garbage, and we both got torant a little bit, and I actually
liked this version of our show more. Well, I'm glad that you're enjoying
yourself. Here's the thing that bothof these movies have proven to me,
which is that this version of LauraCroft at least is really just reckless in
it is just a reckless version ofIndiana Jones and just with no regard for
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anything and stumbles her way through theseidiotic plots, causes an insane amount of
damage in the process. There isit does feel like it's again trying to
be like a Brockheimer type thing.Even though it's not. You know,
it's Yon the Bond who really proceedsa lot of a lot of the famous
Brockheimer stuff and was a important directormuch earlier in that, or at least
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cinematographer much earlier in that. Ihad a very long career. But nonetheless
he's working in that style. AndI felt the same way about Alan Silvestri,
who does the music, because youmay remember that I was very unhappy
with Crame Revel's score for the lastone because it was a thrown together at
the last minute. You know,here's some loops score that he had to
do in a few days. Imean literally a few days, so I'm
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not exaggerating, and I did notlike the result of that. This you've
got Alan Sylvestri, who's a venerablecomposer, you know, back to the
Future, Judge Dredd, mouse Hunt. He's done a million billion things,
and here he's kind of forcing himselfto work in a more modern kind of
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This is like a transitionary score whereit sounds like he's trying to be hands
Simmer or something before he really findsthe modern Aln Sylvestris style that we later
here in like the Avengers movies.Honestly, to be fair, I mean
to this whole process games like tombRaider and then later on Uncharted, we're
based around making a video game outof the Indiana Jones genre and like wating
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that into a video game, whichwe're still waiting for this Indiana Jones game
to finally come out, but that'sneither here nor there, however, So
it works great in video game Farmersbecause it's like, cool, I get
to play is this character and we'redoing these Indiana Jones stick stuff. But
then they take that and then makeit a movie. You can't help but
just steal Indiana Jones stuff, andthen that's what we have in this one.
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We'll get to Uncharted movie. I'msure at some point they do that
as as well, and at BuddyCop stuff. But in the end,
it just is like, well,this is just a very very poor man's
Indiana Jones and it just doesn't work. And that is really the difference.
Even if the one that just cameout, which I would you know,
people at least agree, is maybenot bad, but one of the lesser
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ones still better than the last one. Regardless, it's a great spectacle that
and it has stuff in it that'slike, there's stuff in it that's fantastic,
and there's stuff and that's pretty good. And overall it's a pretty decent
movie. And you know, youcan have a movie that's maybe not amazing
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all the way through. It hassome weaknesses, but if there's enough you
know, big highlights, and that'sa movie that at least gives you spectacle,
you know, and production value.This movie can see some of that.
I think again, a part ofthose day for night scenes that John
Dubont knows how to make a movielook good, and it looks pretty competent.
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The special effects obviously, if notaged well, they're pretty horrible imports.
I guess to me, all thatstuff made me remember Mission Impossible too,
and all the John wu stuff.There. One note that I did
put in here that I haven't broughtup yet is there was so much SlowMo
in this movie. And then againthat was the sign of the time,
like the Max Pain Game was aroundthis time, and a lot of movies
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stuff. And so there you go. Do you have a score for this
thing? Um? I like,to me, it's not. There's nothing
inherently like the derivative is the worstthing, and the fact that, as
I said, I actually think she'sLara's better in this movie, because the
Lara from the last Tomb Raider wouldhave absolutely just opened Pandora's box at the
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end and doomed us all. Well, maybe she would have if she was
promised to see her dad again.Yeah, but she had that moment.
And I also quite liked how shedisposed of Jerk Butler because it's so unassuming.
You know, it's not like abig fight like the last movie.
It's more well, I don't wantto spoil for anyone who hasn't seen Game
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of Thrones, but you know,yeah, I know, I know,
there's even talking about Yeah, itfeels more like a mercy killing. You
know, like he never had achance and she was just trying to keep
him alive and then the and shecouldn't, but she had to do what
she had to do. And thenyou put him down. She put him
down like an animal. And thenI like that. But I also liked
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it you wonder who got who kindof a thing because you hear a shot
and then you don't know where theshot, you know, Who's where?
Is blood gonna start dribbling out ofher mouth or his month, so it
gives you that moment. My favoritevariant of that is when there's a second
person who actually fired the shot thatyou didn't cut to or going to focus
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on. It's a good trope.But this movie. The problem of this
movie. This movie is comprised entirelyof tropes. It doesn't like it.
It looks pretty good. The actionisn't bad. Yes, there is some
paper mache, as you say,there's some stuff that is not that believable,
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but mostly it's pretty well put togetheraction, and I don't hate the
fight scenes. I don't hate theediting. It's all workman like. It's
all relatively competent, okay in termsof how it's made. I also think
again, even though the An Sylvestryscore is not to my taste, I
can see that he's experimenting with astyle that he doesn't usually write in,
which is the nthemic Hansomer style abit, so that's kind of interesting in
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that way. It's got a lotof people in it that I like.
It's got some moments in it thatmade me smile maybe, you know again,
stuff involving Arnold Rummer. But inthe end, it's just such a
complete nothing of a movie. Yes, like there's just not like it's not
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there's not an original element or amemorable element to it. So I would
say it is. It's a cottoncant. It's a complete fluff. You
know, it just disappears in yourmouth immediately and then leaves maybe a bit
of a chemical aftertaste. So Iwould say average, I give it a
five out of ten. So Iwill let you know then that you are
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rating this higher than the first one, then correct, because I thought the
first one was a fucking mess.That is fair. We both gave the
original Lowercraft Team rate or a fourpoint five, and I'm with you were
it is a complete fluff and it'scompletely forgettable. But I liked this less
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than I liked the first one,and that's why I always scored it.
So I gave it a four sointeresting, not too much lower, but
still lower any more, peeps,anything else that stuck out to you is
particularly frustrating. Hold on, letme go through my notes and how many
times did I say I hate thismovie? Hold on? There is The
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opening scene was whatever? To me? It was why did we have a
wedding just to see an earthquake andthen we're underneath the water. For any
of that that made whatever um.Pole vaulting was goddamn the worst thing I've
ever seen. I still kind ofremember where the pole vault was. It
just it broke me. Oh um. One thing I also did not like
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was during the fight around the statues, the boyfriend is getting his ass kicked,
Laura yells something and he goes,all right, I'm done. It's
like it wasn't even like, hey, all right, let's go. It
was just she yelled and he went, Okay. Now I know she's got
the safe word. She calls theshots, she says when they fight,
it's like, all right, nowyou could move on now. I think
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I've absolutely no they're there for her. So when she says training stops,
training stuffs, just it's a movie. That's that's that's just a I actually
think like this is to me,it's basically completely inoffensive, excepting how much
it wastes my time, Like asjust another Luracroft adventure, it is perfectly
fine if you want just another Laracroftadventure. And I think you will agree
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with me that if this was thestory and the cut scenes that held together
a pretty action heavy Lacroft video game. You wouldn't complain. You'd say,
this is a pretty average Lacroft videogame story. And you know, at
least I get to shoot people inbetween this, at least I actually got
to play the video game. ParYeah, this didn't have a video game
part, just the bad cut scenes. Yeah, so I don't think it's
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a bad Lacroft story in that regard. I think it's a better Lowercroft story
than the last one. To befair. Actually, now makes sense for
your rating because you also gave Ratchetand Clank of five, and that was
just the cut scenes without the videogame part, exactly same complaints. So
all right, so I gave ita four, you gave it a five,
gives it an average score of nine, which comes to be a very
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common combined score for us through twentyfive movies. I just want to hit
on these because it's always fun forme to look at it. So it
is the exact same combined score thatwe gave the first Team Raid movie.
It is also the same combined scorethat we gave the first Resident Evil movie
um Assassin's Creed, which we justdid a week or two ago. Um,
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like a Dragon, which gotta forgetall about that movie. And the
Dragon had bigger highlights but also mademe angrier in some ways. And also
we just squandered so much opportunity.And also Wing Commander, we combined win
combinder. Also I felt like therewas potential there for for a like halfway
decent B sci fi. So thereyou go. It is in a tie
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for thirteenth right now in a waytie a really mediocre. Again, sixteen
point five is our best movie ofall time so far. Yeah, that's
just over an average of an eight. H it's brutal and I again,
we've already watched the movie that wewill be presenting to you next week.
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Um, but go ahead, YenS. It was your pick, so go
ahead. And I'm very sorry Iwould urged listeners not to watch alone.
The movie is Angry Birds. Yeah, we'll get to it. Yep,
yep, we'll get to it.It where's something. It's on Netflix.
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So if you do already of Netflix, it is free. If an hour
and a half, it's it's it'san our forty almost it's an hour and
thirty eight. That's hit that long. Yeah, I guess with credits,
but there. You know, it'sone of those animated movies where they think
a bunch of stuff in the credits. So that's true. You're gonna be
watching them all right. There yougo, twenty five movies down a lot
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more to get to. Will anythingever top Ace Attorney? That that is
the question, Sailers next week's episode, will not talk? That would be
a tall order. Yeah, we'llsee how it goes. But until then,
that's next week. You guys,have a good one.
Hello, and welcome to Chapters Selectat the Movies, the show where Randy
and Eye I'm ends we watch moviesbased on video games and then discuss what
we liked and didn't like about them, you know, whether they work as
pieces of art, so to speak. Now, this week we are covering
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Jan Dubond's classic follow up to SimonWest's original tomb Raider with Angina Julie,
which I think we've done already,so giving us a nice basis for this
review. Did the first one MMand if I recall correctly, we thought
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that that movie was a bit ofa mess. I thought it was,
Yeah, Aaron felt unfinished, feltlike they were bits missing. I remember
I remember us talking about it.I think back when it first came out
and remembered it as being okay.And then we rewatched it for this and
I was like, it's it's fine, but not as you said, things
are missing, And then neither ofus had watched the sequel before until it's
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not very interesting to see how bothof us liked this one. By the
way, this is our twenty fifthmovie on this show. Wow, twenty
five nice? So what did youthink? Just quick overall thoughts of the
movie before we start breaking it downmore. Well, I feel like they've
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addressed a lot of my complaints aboutthe first movie. That's something I have
to give it. I gotta giveit credit, you know. And with
the first movie, I complained abouthow are the Jali's version of Lara Croft
was a huge idiot, how shewas leading. Basically, without her,
there would be no expedition, andshe could easily thought the bad guy's plan.
And the only reason she's even riskinghumanity is for the selfish reason for
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you to see her dad one moretime. She's going to risk all of
existence. So I thought she wasa hugely irresponsible character in the first movie
and kind of an asshole, Andin this movie they've made her more likable.
Of course, we're still spending timewith her two best buds. I
don't remember the actors, but it'sthe guy who plays Arnold Rimmer and the
guy who plays Adolf Hitler in Max. So it's fun to see Arnold Rimmer
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and Ado Hitler hanging out a lotin this movie together. I like all
their scenes could interplay. So theyreturned, which is nice. You know,
her butler and her tech guy,very t guy, and or hackerr
friend, whatever you want to callhim. He will always be Hitler to
me. But the point is theyyou know, they have pretty good continuity
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of the last movie. Like thelast movie, we start with her training
and then being pulled into an adventure. And the best thing I can say,
it's a very simple movie. Idon't think we'll need to spend a
lot of time describing the ins andouts of the plot. One way to
say it sure in the fact thatit follows I think the basic plot outline
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of three out of five Indiana Jonesmovies, So you know exactly what to
expect. You're going to get thosebeats you're going to get. You know,
it's the Germany nineteen forty four andLara Croft has to get the oar
back from the Nazi train or whateverhappens. But you know that's not what
happens, obviously, it's actually andI thought this was interesting because you had
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messaged me, I should say,Randy saw this movie like weeks ago,
and I just saw this movie tonight, so you're relying on my immediate
memory and ran these long term memory. I took some notes, not a
lot of notes, but I tooksome notes But the thing that I was
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remembering is that a couple of weeksago you did text me that you thought
the opening to this movie was sooutlandish and so crazy, and you hope
that it, you know, tampsdown after that, and watching it,
to me, it was incredibly reminiscentof the beginning of the second Reboot game,
where you know, Lara's on expedition, and you know, just as
she gets the artifact, she getsambushed by a bunch of dudes. So
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it didn't seem to outlandish to me, and the sharks stuff also seemed in
character. I actually thought that themovie was pretty strong in its first act.
Conversation, I hated this opening actso much. Okay, the whole
sharks. The whole sharks thing isjust ridiculous. I'm gonna cut my hand,
the sharks gonna just swim by me, forget I'm holding onto his find
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me all the way back up tothe surface, and then forget I'm bleeding,
and just leave me. You wouldnot think that was a cool game
mechanic if you summoned the shark inthe tomb Rader game with your own blood.
No, okay, well, wasn'tthere a tomb Rader Game Before a
Tomb Rader had a reboot where youwere underwater and dealing with the shark,
of course, and it was horrendouslyreviewed. Was that was the engel of
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Darkness or whatever? I don't know. There's a big gap in ter that
I just did not play. I'veactually never finished the first one. I
will first now, because yes,I did message MS saying that I hoped
that it would get better from theopening scene. It did not. Oh
man, no, because so sohold on. So I want to address
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a couple of things before we getinto the ins and outs of this movie,
because you brought up your overall thoughtsand I think none of it was
true. But Laura, while isnot she's not an asshole. She's not
much of a character anymore so becauseshe has an arc, her arc,
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she has to learn the lesson thatit's better to let some secrets lie and
it's better for some things to beunfound, and that she probably shouldn't open
Pandora's box. That's the thing whatI was trying to get at is I
felt in the last movie she wasa completely irresponsible asshole. Right in this
movie she starts off better. Infact, she's not leading on or working
with the bad guys for most ofthe movie, but rather she is kind
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of tracking behind them to try andget this important artifact back. Because,
of course, as in all ofthese kind of stories, again this exact
story structure, you always have thesmall mcguffin artifact that leads to the big
mcguffin artifact at the end of themovie that you have to find with it
again, India and Jones, andthey do a lot of stuff that they
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do, like there's like Last Crusadestuff in here, There's Raiders stuff in
here, James Bond stuff in here. Um, so the influences are are
pretty clear what this movie is tryingto be. You know, it's trying
to and it's not even to anyof them. This also came out,
but she just learned to lessen,to not open Pandora's box. I mean,
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that's the absolute minimum, to notjust be the biggest It took two
in exist hours of a horrendous moviefor us to get to that character redemption
moment. This I just looked itup while you were talking. This came
out three years after Mission Impossible two, which really started a horrible movie which
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you pushed that series to the overthe topness that it would then go down
and wait, you know what,We're going to do the exact same thing.
So like all of the little bitof charm that was in the first
tumb Rat movie is completely stripped awayfor set pieces, and Angelina Jolie to
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have lovers quarrel with Gerard Butler,who and that relationship was. It is
mind numbing to me. It's theworst part of the movie, and especially
because it is just a complete retreadafter Daniel Craig relationship in the First's exactly
what I put in my notes.I go, they had to have a
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love interest in this movie, andthey killed off the boyfriend from the first
one, so they needed to bringback an old flame that was a little
bit the entire time that he's goingto betray her at the end for the
artifact, and it's just it's justset piece after set piece after set piece.
This is what they fastened the Furiousmovies would become. But at least
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fastened the Furious had great cgi tocover up their messes. Here's the thing
about it. I want to notea few positives though. Firstly, yond
bond right, he is one ofthe great effects guys, one of the
great cinematographers, and a pretty gooddirector in his own right. I mean,
he made Speed for crying out loud, he also made Speed too,
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but the Yang exactly exactly two sidesof the same coin. We're not so
different, you and I. Buthe has a good visual sense, and
apart from what is one sequence that'sprobably the worst day for night I've seen
in a modern movie where he literallyjust tinted a day shot blue in the
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most I don't know what I thoughtdigital color grading would have been slightly further.
Does this post or brother art though? Isn't it? Or is it?
Is it pre regardless, I wouldhave expected a better job on that.
But other than that, I actuallythink it's a pretty good looking movie.
It's sometimes a little drab, butthen when it doesn't bring color back
into it, it actually looks reallygood. Like you know, at the
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Pandora's Box scene at the end,I thought all that stuff looked really good.
I thought the caves that they gothrough on their way to Pandora's Box
very reminiscent of some kind of souls, uh designs. You know, it
felt very souls, including creatures thatdon't fully really fade into trees or whatever.
That message. Yeah, yeah,all that stuff was just like,
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oh man, this doesn't feel liketumb Rator, but does feel like dark.
So obviously this is before it's time, but this it felt like uncharted.
Yeah, yeah, there's definitely someof that. We're just gonna have
random mass creatures at the end ofthe game because supernatural. Oh yeah,
absolutely. I didn't really have anissue with that stuff. I generally think
this movie is I mean, there'ssupernatural ones to all the tomb Rators except
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for I think the next one thatwe're gonna watch where they stripped that stuff
out in the game. There wasin the game there are supernatural monsters at
the end of the game. Theylooked bad. I'm not saying it was
dumb, but the first movie.I don't really have an issue with this
in terms of in terms of effectsor whatever other than well, yeah,
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okay again, we're going back tolast Crusade, right, you get this
same um. I have really jumpedahead on this because we're already talking about
because I'm too excited to talk aboutit, I guess. But the Crusade
fine conversation. The parallels are strongbecause you have the you know, we're
dangling down the abyss and you haveto choose been saving the one person and
getting the thing. Um you havethem. Yeah. Basically this this whole
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movie is we're going to take otherthings and then not do it as well,
and then we're going to throw ina motor cycle drive across the Great
Wall of China because um, weare going to have them pole vault off.
I forget what the pole vault thingis. All I have in my
notes is fucking pole vault. God. I hate this movie. That's my
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note. But what what I wasjust trying to remember was that the the
face melting in Last Crusade kind ofreminds me of what they're doing here with
the probably the worst effect in themovie where they melt the bad guy in
the acid pool, which, like, there are so many things where you're
just like, oh, yeah,you're taking the same and it really is
the same structure, the same kindof story beat, And it also reminded
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me a lot. You know,I just watched Dial of Destiny, that
the last Indiana Jones movie, andit did the same thing where we start
by stealing an artifact and then wegot captured and then we free ourselves again,
and then we steal the artifact back, and then we on the run
for a while and there's a bunchof chase scenes and then we get captured
again and then they take the artifactin the weekend. Can we break out
again and then we steal the artifactback? Can we talk about that artifact
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for one moment? Yes? Theartifact is a big glowy orb which turns
out to be a map. It'slike a giant It looks like something that
you'd buy in like a Spencer's gift. This just yellow orange crystal orb with
black spots all over it. Butof course what those turn out to be
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is coordinate. So it's a bigmagical artifact. And they do the Raiders
thing. They do the map roomscene in Raiders with the where when he
when she gets into just the rightplace that it gets illuminated and there's a
huge kind of hologram vision that emsfrom Can we can we talk about that
hologram vision for a moment? Yeah, we can't. What the fuck?
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So I get it that this issupposed to show you where it is in
um Indiana Jones. It works becausethe thing just points out where you need
to go in the map. Shehad big she had big visions at the
end of the last movie. Butno, it's not her visions, it's
the ORBS visions. So this ORB, which was created centuries ago, has
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panoramic three sixty degree HD video thatdoes not show you where it is,
but just shows you highlights of howcool Africa is. That's true. It
isn't is fun kind of travelog seIt's just a travel Here's elephants, here's
a tree, here's straw. Thisis something what are talking about as well,
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which is that the attempts of thismovie to make Longcroft seem cool all
weirdly pathetic. It's all as yousay, it's like, oh, it's
just a travelogue or you know,like when they go wing diving or whatever.
Sure, it's like, you know, it's cool that they that they
wing dive, but we don't thatcool. We don't need to, you
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know, get all these glory shotsand dedicate a three minute sequence to it.
They stood on that squirrel suit shotfirst. It's so cool, it's
so cool. It was brutal.However, I just that ORB was basically
like, here's some like a YouTubemontage that a twelve year old made of
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Africa for their student project, andshe goes, ah, we gotta go
to Zimbabwe. Huh. What Ido like about it is that she does
it in front of this family,where she basically borrows her TV and repurposes
it as a display for her likelive feed. But but at least the
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moment seems like at least the boyfriendgoes to that exact same apartment building to
figure out where she went. Yeah, but I just like that sequence because
it just makes it seem like,you know, she's so cool for the
way that she assembles or Jerry ricksthat whole thing, just so she can,
you know, do what we've fallento that stuff too. Even and
again she's I mean sure, sure, sure, I'm just saying like it's
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like presented as this like crowning badassmoment, you know what I mean.
So I guess so you have nailedthe part of this movie perfectly. Find
or Lose or Get or Blues.We talked about the villain we need to
talk about because it's firstly it's SyrianHynes Um you know, the poor Man's
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Ellen Rickman and more, poor,poor, poor, poor I could not
have cared any less than I didfor this villain and his little sidekick dude,
which I've seen him in movies before, and I'm black who it was,
Oh Schweiger. Um, we'll getto see a lot more of him
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at spoilers for a couple of moviesfrom now. Uh huh yeah, but
um yeah, Jie Schweiger completely wastedas just as basically just a chief henchman.
That may have been the worst asa movie scale we've had in any
of our movies yet. Okay,so let's talk about who this guy is.
This is again the equivalent of likeyour typical Matt Nazi scientist in Yeah
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Jones movie who wants to do thingsfor Nazi reasons. In this case,
he's still a mad scientist, andhe's like some kind of a weird death
merchant where he manufactures super diseases ina in a hutang lab somewhere and then
sells it to weird criminals who needsuper diseases all around the world. I
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guess dictators and stuff. I don'tknow where. I don't see this level
of crazy German warfare really happening,so I don't know where that came from.
And of course, he has nowlearned of the existence of Pandora's Box,
which is where all the anti energyin the world is stored. Because
you know, everything has to beperfectly balanced, as all things should be,
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so you know, for everything thatlives, there has to be an
anti force, and this anti forceis contained in the box. And Shark
Butler wants to steal the box andsell it for money. And this this
guy whatever, he wants to basicallymake a new super disease that he can
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do whatever with. I don't know, I don't know what he's going to
do with it. Is he goingto ransom the world? Is he gonna
sell it for profit? Is hegonna, you know, death this damn
thing and just take over the world. He's gonna hold up the box and
say, if you do not giveme everything I want, I opened the
box. That's okay. Yeah,so he's just gonna he's gonna demand I
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want one billion dollars in exchange forme not to open the Pandora's Box.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Anyway, he actually think that he's
just the guy who really loves killingor he wants to. He probably wants
to genocide, you know, andlike he wants to be able to target,
like I want to target just thisgenetic subtype or whatever. I don't
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know, that's very racist, butit feels that way in terms of again,
he's basically a Nazi but under anyother name. Yeah, it's just
you know, now it's like inthe name of commerce. But it doesn't
really make sense because what I mean, I do get that there's probably profit
in this sort of thing, butnot to the extent that his plans would
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require. And he's just very boring. He's bland, and there's really no
character to him other than I'm smartand I want to kill I want to
let loose. Yeah, I wantto let loose the worst disease on the
world, which you know, newsflash, we all know how that ends.
But I just don't. I justdon't get he's like he's a poor
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man's Bond villain. I mean,there's bondville that do kind of the same
thing. That's actually what I'm thinkingabout quite a bit, is stuff like
you know, the spy who lovedMe or whatever. It's rough. I
mean, it's just to me,this stripped down all of the clever things
from the first movie, which wasriddled with plot holes and issues in its
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own sense, but at least ithad some charm and just went set piece
set piece, We need a reallycool fight. So now all of a
sudden, this guy is going toshow Laura his cool ancient warrior statue collection,
so then we can fight around thosewhich, by the way, half
of those look like paper machee.Yeah, when they broke through them,
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and it just it's like there weresome good special effects that were not in
that scene at all, but itwas only used there and you could the
moment they walked into like, allwe're fighting here instantly. It's only there
to try to come up with coolset pieces. Same thing with the fight
with the helicopter in the city street. And where were they? Was it
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Hong Kong or where were they at? I couldn't keep at some point like
Honduras and in Africa and wherever?Then remember or the Cradle of Life,
the Cradle of Life where they eventuallyfind the Pandora's books. Do you remember
or something? Right? Zimbabwe orsomething? It was Madagascar is a different
movie. It was to show howmuch impression think it was. It was
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a video game based on it,I guess, but I don't think there's
any video game based on the movieMadagascar, but I don't think then they
re they made a movie based onthat video game, so we can't cover
it. But no, unfortunately,no, I can't get the way with
that. I would have rather watchedhonestly than did this. And the movie
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we're going to talk about next week, Oh my god, probably who can
say? Anyways, Um, whatI love about this review and he just
hijacking your format of the show isI've been able to avoid just the bit
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by bit of it because none ofit made sense and all of it was
garbage, and we both got torant a little bit, and I actually
liked this version of our show more. Well, I'm glad that you're enjoying
yourself. Here's the thing that bothof these movies have proven to me,
which is that this version of LauraCroft at least is really just reckless in
it is just a reckless version ofIndiana Jones and just with no regard for
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anything and stumbles her way through theseidiotic plots, causes an insane amount of
damage in the process. There isit does feel like it's again trying to
be like a Brockheimer type thing.Even though it's not. You know,
it's Yon the Bond who really proceedsa lot of a lot of the famous
Brockheimer stuff and was a important directormuch earlier in that, or at least
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cinematographer much earlier in that. Ihad a very long career. But nonetheless
he's working in that style. AndI felt the same way about Alan Silvestri,
who does the music, because youmay remember that I was very unhappy
with Crame Revel's score for the lastone because it was a thrown together at
the last minute. You know,here's some loops score that he had to
do in a few days. Imean literally a few days, so I'm
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not exaggerating, and I did notlike the result of that. This you've
got Alan Sylvestri, who's a venerablecomposer, you know, back to the
Future, Judge Dredd, mouse Hunt. He's done a million billion things,
and here he's kind of forcing himselfto work in a more modern kind of
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This is like a transitionary score whereit sounds like he's trying to be hands
Simmer or something before he really findsthe modern Aln Sylvestris style that we later
here in like the Avengers movies.Honestly, to be fair, I mean
to this whole process games like tombRaider and then later on Uncharted, we're
based around making a video game outof the Indiana Jones genre and like wating
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that into a video game, whichwe're still waiting for this Indiana Jones game
to finally come out, but that'sneither here nor there, however, So
it works great in video game Farmersbecause it's like, cool, I get
to play is this character and we'redoing these Indiana Jones stick stuff. But
then they take that and then makeit a movie. You can't help but
just steal Indiana Jones stuff, andthen that's what we have in this one.
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We'll get to Uncharted movie. I'msure at some point they do that
as as well, and at BuddyCop stuff. But in the end,
it just is like, well,this is just a very very poor man's
Indiana Jones and it just doesn't work. And that is really the difference.
Even if the one that just cameout, which I would you know,
people at least agree, is maybenot bad, but one of the lesser
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ones still better than the last one. Regardless, it's a great spectacle that
and it has stuff in it that'slike, there's stuff in it that's fantastic,
and there's stuff and that's pretty good. And overall it's a pretty decent
movie. And you know, youcan have a movie that's maybe not amazing
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all the way through. It hassome weaknesses, but if there's enough you
know, big highlights, and that'sa movie that at least gives you spectacle,
you know, and production value.This movie can see some of that.
I think again, a part ofthose day for night scenes that John
Dubont knows how to make a movielook good, and it looks pretty competent.
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The special effects obviously, if notaged well, they're pretty horrible imports.
I guess to me, all thatstuff made me remember Mission Impossible too,
and all the John wu stuff.There. One note that I did
put in here that I haven't broughtup yet is there was so much SlowMo
in this movie. And then againthat was the sign of the time,
like the Max Pain Game was aroundthis time, and a lot of movies
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stuff. And so there you go. Do you have a score for this
thing? Um? I like,to me, it's not. There's nothing
inherently like the derivative is the worstthing, and the fact that, as
I said, I actually think she'sLara's better in this movie, because the
Lara from the last Tomb Raider wouldhave absolutely just opened Pandora's box at the
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end and doomed us all. Well, maybe she would have if she was
promised to see her dad again.Yeah, but she had that moment.
And I also quite liked how shedisposed of Jerk Butler because it's so unassuming.
You know, it's not like abig fight like the last movie.
It's more well, I don't wantto spoil for anyone who hasn't seen Game
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of Thrones, but you know,yeah, I know, I know,
there's even talking about Yeah, itfeels more like a mercy killing. You
know, like he never had achance and she was just trying to keep
him alive and then the and shecouldn't, but she had to do what
she had to do. And thenyou put him down. She put him
down like an animal. And thenI like that. But I also liked
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it you wonder who got who kindof a thing because you hear a shot
and then you don't know where theshot, you know, Who's where?
Is blood gonna start dribbling out ofher mouth or his month, so it
gives you that moment. My favoritevariant of that is when there's a second
person who actually fired the shot thatyou didn't cut to or going to focus
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on. It's a good trope.But this movie. The problem of this
movie. This movie is comprised entirelyof tropes. It doesn't like it.
It looks pretty good. The actionisn't bad. Yes, there is some
paper mache, as you say,there's some stuff that is not that believable,
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but mostly it's pretty well put togetheraction, and I don't hate the
fight scenes. I don't hate theediting. It's all workman like. It's
all relatively competent, okay in termsof how it's made. I also think
again, even though the An Sylvestryscore is not to my taste, I
can see that he's experimenting with astyle that he doesn't usually write in,
which is the nthemic Hansomer style abit, so that's kind of interesting in
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that way. It's got a lotof people in it that I like.
It's got some moments in it thatmade me smile maybe, you know again,
stuff involving Arnold Rummer. But inthe end, it's just such a
complete nothing of a movie. Yes, like there's just not like it's not
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there's not an original element or amemorable element to it. So I would
say it is. It's a cottoncant. It's a complete fluff. You
know, it just disappears in yourmouth immediately and then leaves maybe a bit
of a chemical aftertaste. So Iwould say average, I give it a
five out of ten. So Iwill let you know then that you are
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rating this higher than the first one, then correct, because I thought the
first one was a fucking mess.That is fair. We both gave the
original Lowercraft Team rate or a fourpoint five, and I'm with you were
it is a complete fluff and it'scompletely forgettable. But I liked this less
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than I liked the first one,and that's why I always scored it.
So I gave it a four sointeresting, not too much lower, but
still lower any more, peeps,anything else that stuck out to you is
particularly frustrating. Hold on, letme go through my notes and how many
times did I say I hate thismovie? Hold on? There is The
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opening scene was whatever? To me? It was why did we have a
wedding just to see an earthquake andthen we're underneath the water. For any
of that that made whatever um.Pole vaulting was goddamn the worst thing I've
ever seen. I still kind ofremember where the pole vault was. It
just it broke me. Oh um. One thing I also did not like
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was during the fight around the statues, the boyfriend is getting his ass kicked,
Laura yells something and he goes,all right, I'm done. It's
like it wasn't even like, hey, all right, let's go. It
was just she yelled and he went, Okay. Now I know she's got
the safe word. She calls theshots, she says when they fight,
it's like, all right, nowyou could move on now. I think
(29:33):
I've absolutely no they're there for her. So when she says training stops,
training stuffs, just it's a movie. That's that's that's just a I actually
think like this is to me,it's basically completely inoffensive, excepting how much
it wastes my time, Like asjust another Luracroft adventure, it is perfectly
fine if you want just another Laracroftadventure. And I think you will agree
(29:57):
with me that if this was thestory and the cut scenes that held together
a pretty action heavy Lacroft video game. You wouldn't complain. You'd say,
this is a pretty average Lacroft videogame story. And you know, at
least I get to shoot people inbetween this, at least I actually got
to play the video game. ParYeah, this didn't have a video game
part, just the bad cut scenes. Yeah, so I don't think it's
(30:19):
a bad Lacroft story in that regard. I think it's a better Lowercroft story
than the last one. To befair. Actually, now makes sense for
your rating because you also gave Ratchetand Clank of five, and that was
just the cut scenes without the videogame part, exactly same complaints. So
all right, so I gave ita four, you gave it a five,
gives it an average score of nine, which comes to be a very
(30:45):
common combined score for us through twentyfive movies. I just want to hit
on these because it's always fun forme to look at it. So it
is the exact same combined score thatwe gave the first Team Raid movie.
It is also the same combined scorethat we gave the first Resident Evil movie
um Assassin's Creed, which we justdid a week or two ago. Um,
(31:07):
like a Dragon, which gotta forgetall about that movie. And the
Dragon had bigger highlights but also mademe angrier in some ways. And also
we just squandered so much opportunity.And also Wing Commander, we combined win
combinder. Also I felt like therewas potential there for for a like halfway
decent B sci fi. So thereyou go. It is in a tie
(31:30):
for thirteenth right now in a waytie a really mediocre. Again, sixteen
point five is our best movie ofall time so far. Yeah, that's
just over an average of an eight. H it's brutal and I again,
we've already watched the movie that wewill be presenting to you next week.
(31:53):
Um, but go ahead, YenS. It was your pick, so go
ahead. And I'm very sorry Iwould urged listeners not to watch alone.
The movie is Angry Birds. Yeah, we'll get to it. Yep,
yep, we'll get to it.It where's something. It's on Netflix.
(32:15):
So if you do already of Netflix, it is free. If an hour
and a half, it's it's it'san our forty almost it's an hour and
thirty eight. That's hit that long. Yeah, I guess with credits,
but there. You know, it'sone of those animated movies where they think
a bunch of stuff in the credits. So that's true. You're gonna be
watching them all right. There yougo, twenty five movies down a lot
(32:36):
more to get to. Will anythingever top Ace Attorney? That that is
the question, Sailers next week's episode, will not talk? That would be
a tall order. Yeah, we'llsee how it goes. But until then,
that's next week. You guys,have a good one.
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