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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I really, I'm really very hamhanded when it comes to
these things, notoriously so all right, so here we go,
all right, welcome to the program, Charles Moskowitz. Here I
finally figured everything out, Mike, in terms of the technicalities
of this, which are wonderful when you can do them,
(00:23):
you know. But yeah, I mean, but here it is.
It's working, and I just want to make sure I'm
signed into Skype in case we get any calls. Yep,
there we are. We're at Skype. We can take calls.
By the way, five o'weight six three seven five five
nine six five o weeight six three seven nine nine
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five five nine six. I wonder if I should take
the ultimate risk and go live on TikTok, which is
a place where I'm generally not welcomed, but I'm going
to do it. Yeah, We'll live on TikTok. Welcome aboard TikTok.
Yeah for now until they shut it off. But here
(01:08):
we are, you know, Mike. I wanted to talk a
little bit today about the two cases, of course that
are in the news where in both cases someone ended
up dead, and in both cases two individuals were charged
with the crime. And that is the case of Luigi
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Mangioni and the insurance man, and also the case of
Daniel Penny on the subway in New York. These things
seem to have coincided in terms of Daniel Penny's case
being dismissed and Mangioni being caught at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania.
(01:51):
And I think that there's an element he was acquitted exactly.
Thank you. Now I want to just comment on each
of them. On the first one, the case of Daniel Penny,
this is an example of how critical race theory has
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taken over the minds of this country, at least the
elite minds, the legal minds, the high ground, and in
that everything comes down to race. Race had absolutely nothing
to do with it. I mean, this guy was dangerous,
He was wielding a knife, was threatening to attack people,
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hit a long record of extreme violence. He was not sane,
and Daniel Penny, being a marine off duty, conducted a
function by which he subdued him and saved a lot
of lives in that subway according to everyone who was there. Right.
(02:57):
But no, I mean it just happened to be a
coincidence that the guy happened to be black. It had
nothing to do with anything but the fact that it
was made into an issue and it was brought to
even brought to court, but she never should have been.
And then you had this radical leftist attorney trying to
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put Daniel Penny in prison for life, I mean, or
put him in charge him with manslaughter. Shows how out
of whack our system has become. This guy ordinarily would
be hailed as a hero, which he is. He saved
lives by stopping this person from going on a violent attack.
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And just the twisted means by which our society now
looks at these things. Everything has to be looked at
through a prism of race, and everything in that context
has to be looked at through the phenomena of anyone
who is, in this case a white man is naturally
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seen as the oppressor, and anyone who isn't is seen
as the victim. And yes, well, let's just say that
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they tend to I mean, I do respect now. I
don't want to get shut down on TikTok here, but
let's just say that there's something twisted going on there. No,
(05:11):
I think there's society at large views Daniel Perry not
only as a hero, but as someone who stood up
and took, you know, like an ordinary situation where you
would protect people's lives. I mean, I think that most
New Yorkers, including most liberals, think of that. I think
this way, it's just this radical establishment, the very people
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that President Trump won against, who have become so twisted
that they think there's some virtue in this kind of
a bizarre and inverted outlook that would lead to prosecuting
this man for Yeah, no, that's right. And now I
(07:04):
think because of this acquittal, it's time to revisit the
case of Darren Chauven Derek Chauvin, who also basically was
putting this man in a hole that he had been
trained to do as a police officer in Minnesota, and
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that they had undergone training to do that procedure. Now,
maybe they shouldn't have been doing it, but that was
what he was trained to do, it had been done
many times before, and that he did it because this
man was resisting arrest. He wasn't he refused to get
out of the car, and he was behaving in what
all observers said appeared to be violently. The fact that
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he died is something that they could not have foreseen.
The man was on vent and al and he was
on other drugs. They found in his system that he
had a large art and yet this became another one
of these successes for this leftist establishment that then ginned
up this case with somehow the fact that he happened
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to be black had anything to do with it, which
it didn't, and that it was he became like a
a symbol of all of the situations historically which are
real where black men were attacked. Yes, but this particular
case it didn't really add up to that. It became
more kind of a you know, an archetype of something else,
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and that's sort of how they use the legal system
in a way.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, it didn't work in a backfight on them. And
just not to get off on a deep on a topic,
but I view Pilot as having been part of the
deep state in his day, and that in the case
of of Chauvin, you had the deep state getting putting
on kinji cloth and bowing in the capitol, remember that
(10:06):
with Pelosi. And then you had them launching these what
I would describe as a chrystal Nacht against black communities
in major cities where where businesses were looted, houses and
businesses were burned and people were shot to death in response,
almost in a coordinated way, while the media, while filming
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the fires was saying, this is a peaceful, mostly peaceful
protests him. But I also want to talk about Mangioni
because there are certain conspiracy theories around this, and I
have no idea about any of them, who knows the
truth about it, But I think there are a couple
that were visit. Probably not, there's some very strange things
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around it, but but but there are there is social
benefit in examining certain as aspects of this and one
of them. And again, and I am not in any
way in favor of this insurance man getting gunned down
like that, of course, but it did bring up some
issues about what's happening in insurance that Brian Thompson probably
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in accord and you know something about this, Mike, with
other insurance companies over the past maybe three or four years,
maybe since Biden took took office, I don't know, maybe earlier,
they had consolidated and become so huge that they were
in a position to deny benefits to people who may
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otherwise have gotten benefits. And these are people who had
paid into that system for decades and who owed that system.
Now I'm speaking here as somebody who actually got a
life and health insurance license, so I know something about this,
and I remember being in the office when I'm trying
to sell those policies. I was terrible at it. I
didn't last long. But I remember my supervisor there on
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the phone with this poor man who had bought an
extended policy. I'm not going to mention the company, but
you know, like an advanced policy for cancer. And he
was calling because he had cancer, and my supervisor was saying, sorry,
we're not going to cover that because it was on
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this day and not on that day, because it's this
kind of cancer, not that kind of cancer. And I
was listening to this and that conversation made my bloodkerdel.
It was really, really brutal. Now I can understand where
people get very hot under the collar in these matters.
I think in the case of Luigi, I don't know
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what the truth of it is, but my understanding is
that his mother had some kind of a disease and
was they thought that that covered by insurance and they
were not getting the coverage, and that since this massive
consolidation on the part of major insurance companies. People are
not getting the coverage that they previously got, and that
many of them are dying they finally get approved for
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a drug, that they get approved for a procedure and
it's too late. The additional aspect to this that I
think should be considered is that in recent years, insurance
companies and other major companies are switching to artificial intelligence
to make decisions. I think this is something This is
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an aspect that needs to be examined. I'm not in
any way an expert about it. I was listening to
Joe Allen talk about this. He's the author of aon
He's been a guest of mine, he's a regular with
Steve Bannon, and he pointed out that like, for example, recently,
there was a case with someone who's being denied coverage
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while they were in the middle of anesthesia, right the
insurance company or we don't cover this, and it was
not It was a decision that was not made by
a person. It was done through these algorithms, the same
algorithms that, by the way, not to go into this,
but deal with voting machines. But we won't talk about that, right.
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I mean, it looks at averages, and it looks at
the mean and the standard deviation and then it makes
an estimate, and it's not really a person in charge
of it. And the result is that more and more
people are being denied coverage that they paid for or
that they at least thought they had, and that ultimately
they get when it's too late. So he's expressing a
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rage over that that is actually a real issue. Now,
obviously he shouldn't have taken it out on this man,
shooting him in the back in cold blood. However, it
is a cry that does resonate with people well. And
the other factor with regard to Brian Thompson is that
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he had been making tens of millions of dollars more
than anyone had made in recent years in that industry.
And he's not the only one. And I think that,
you know, you know, I'm a small government guy. However,
with insurance particularly, there is and there was pretty significant
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regulation over these sorts of things. You know, there certainly
is regulation in terms of them having to have a
reserve account to cover policies and a reinsurer and that
sort of thing. But I think there was regulation around
these sort of mega consolidations and massive salary increases, which
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has taken out of the funds that they're earning, and
that gives an incentive to deny policies when they may
not have otherwise been denied. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
One? Nine?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then look and then you have the doctor says,
still looking at a computer screen rather than looking at
his patient. Yeah, no, no, right, they have an incentive
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to deny. And yet I don't know, I don't know
if you can answer this, and it's kind of a
paradoxical situation. But you have drugs that are very expensive,
and I particularly would note some of these injectables that
are becoming very popular like ozempic and will go me
and all of them, and they cost thousands of dollars,
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and yet the insurance company is happy to cover that,
and so it's out of pocket for the consumer, like
just a cope of whatever fifty bucks. How does the
insurance company, I mean, you know, aren't they losing on that?
I mean, why are they doing that? Yeah, you know
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that everyone's making a buck on that. I mean the
drug company h m hmm, yeah, it doesn't the insurance
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company have an incentive to not cover these drugs because
I mean, how are they making money from that? Yeah,
(21:59):
But then you can say that about a lot of things, like,
for example, I recently read that the the industry of
doing sex change operations for children is like a billions
of dollars. Who is covering those costs? Not the people
that are doing the sex you know, the family of
the paying for their child. You know, God forbid anybody
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does that. But I'm just saying that this, you know,
this is a huge boom for right, Well, somebody's making
(22:53):
a pretty good penny on that. And there's uh, that's all.
I get the sense that that entire thing, besides having
a political and social aspect, is all about money. I mean,
there's huge you know, usually these hospitals are making a
great and then of course that even brings up the
bigger issue, which is COVID. How did they make money?
(23:15):
I mean, you know, hospitals made money every time that
they called a case COVID. If somebody went to the
hospital with a broken arm and they tested positive for COVID,
they called it a COVID case and get money for that.
Who was paying that? I mean, in that case, I
think the government was paying the money. Right Well, yeah,
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but in the case of approaching a purchasing a car,
you do pay for that. I mean I owned, I
had to take a loan, Yeah, but I ended up
paying a lot more than that because if I take
out a loan, I probably am spending an extra year
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of payments to pay the interest on the money. So
everybody I get where they make money on that, that
money comes out of my pocket. But with issues like
COVID or issues like these other things, that is very
little comes out of the consumer's pocket. Somebody, but somebody
is making big money. M hm. Right, Well, I think
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that we know that a lot of the money and
the so called war and poverty which was taken out
of the Social Security Trust Fund went to all of
this whole cottage industry of social workers and social scientists
who were there to handle poverty and who were basically
had incentives to not solve the problem because yeah, I mean,
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the more cases they could show, the more money they get.
You know, it's kind of a I mean, isn't this
(26:45):
an example? I Mean, even like we look at Nixon
launched the so called war on cancer, right, one of
the first thing they did, one of the first things
they did was and not to get into a topic
here that I could get banned for. But they got
rid of latrop right, which is basically the inside of
a peach pit, and which has proven to help cancer
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or you know, cure cancers. I don't think this. I
think that's not being admitted that these things have a benefit.
I don't know if they cure cancer, but they have
a benefit in terms of managing it. But the drug
companies couldn't make a bug on that, so they got
rid of it, and they denounced it, and they had it.
It's not totally off the market, but it's been vilified.
(27:28):
It's sort of like what they did more recently with
I shouldn't say this because I'm on YouTube today, but
hydroxy hydroxy you know what, and ivor you know what.
Right now, three years later, the medical journals are acknowledging
that these things are standard treatment for viruses and probably
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had they been promoted, they would have saved a lot
of lives and they would have reduced the you know,
the involvement of COVID, which was a real thing. And
by the way, this is the one, probably one of
the few issues that I do blame Donald Trump for
as president. I think he could have done a better
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job of standing up for those things. I think he
was listening too much to Fauci and Berks and this
whole rotten establishment around him. So I do I do
take I do hold that against him. But the point
is that those those drugs long ago FDA approved the
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long standard record of reducing virus and his treatment of
virus if it's taken early, they were denounced. I mean,
you know, there's a there's a perverse incentive to perpetrate
these diseases. I don't know if it's a financial thing,
probably is all of it. It's financial, they're making money
on it.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
And it's also out of a social agenda, right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
H m hm.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No, we know that. We know those great doctors who
questioned it. These are amongst America's most respected medical people.
I mean, uh write doctor Robert Malone, doctor Peter McCullough.
They were on the top of their field. I mean,
they had everything to lose by doing this, and they
they did. They were knocked out off, They're out of
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their field. They did sacrifice a lot to bring it up.
Oh yeah, I mean the Act was responsible for more
(31:02):
age deaths than AIDS itself. From what I understand, very
(31:26):
very suspicious. And he was a Nobel prize winning scientist
who I think invented the test kit for that was
would later be used to test PCR.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right, okay, right, mm hm h.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Oh. By the way, I would say march Elias is
a very brilliant lawyer. Evil but brilliant that may be.
But no, but he's he can't be underestimated. He's very
good at what he does.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
He's evil, but yeah, probably you know, probably, yeah, oh
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my god.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah. And not to mention the fact that I think
they all got rich off of off Cackles, the Cackles campaign, right,
they shelled out over a billion dollars and to who
knows who, consultants became multimillionaires overnight. But by the way,
just for the record, I should note I've just been
shut down on TikTok. I don't know what something you said, Mike.
(35:01):
I think I think it might have been the business
of of malus or or there was some trigger that
led them to shut off the stream. Yeah, there are people, No,
I had the people. When you go on TikTok, people
pick it up. I mean I have about eight thousand
followers now even though I've been shadow band and there
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are people keeping tabs on me on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Oh yeah, well that's a that's a that's taboo, I mean.
And now, of course there's rumors that this corrupt, illegitimate
regime is going to issue some kind of a retroactive
pardon for Faucia before they leave. But you touched on
something that gets into the second conspiracy theory around Brian Thompson,
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the insurance man. And I'm not going to be articulate
about this, I'll be general, but generally speaking, they were
under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission for antitrust activities.
There was rumors that there had been inside of trading
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in that Thompson and several other figures who are multi
these people are super rich, they had been alerted in
advance that they were under investigation, which they then took
that information and sold all the stock parketing tens of
millions of dollars and basically screwing over the shareholders and
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their own employees in process. And that this case was
coming up for hearings, and that Thompson, rumor has it,
was planning on spilling the beans on a bunch of
things in order to save his own hide. And he
was in a position who's one of the top figures
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in the insurance industry, who probably knew everything about everyone,
and including apparently not to mention names, but Nancy Pelosi
and her husband who apparently made a few bucks on
that deal as well, and some other people in Congress.
So there may have been an incentive to knock him off.
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I'm not saying I know anything about this. I don't,
but that is one of the theories that's out there.
It all looks a little too neat, and in terms
of the timing. When you have a situation like this,
you have to look at the timing and you have
to yeah, and you have to take a look at
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who benefits who benefited from this?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
No, And he strikes me as the classic Patsy, right
like Lee Harvey Oswald. You know, just it's like, you know,
I was talking about this the other day as a guest,
that there's this historic medieval group called the Hashishim, the
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assassins that we're operating out of out of Islamic Persia.
Who would do this thing where they would you know,
I don't want to use the word brainwash, but they
would find some young, disaffected, disillusioned man in a community,
in a village somewhere, usually poor and just kind of aimless.
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They would whisk him up to this palace in the
mountains of Persia where he would be indulged with everything
you can imagine. He would have everything in his you know,
every kind of like vice, and he'd lived this enormously
luxurious experience. And then after and not to mention, a
lot of hash and a lot of drugs. That's where
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the word hash hashish comes from Assha. And also it's
where the word assassin comes from the hashisham. These are
all come from this cult. Then, after living that wonderful
life for about three weeks and thinking he's in some
kind of a nirvana or some kind of an Islamic
heaven and actually being told that he had passed away
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and that he was in heaven, they then send him
back to his village with the job of taking someone out.
You have to kill this person, and when you do,
there essence, this soul is going to enter your body
and you were then going to fly up and have
eternal joys of everything. You know, you'll live this life
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with the seventy virgins and all of that, and then
they send him out and he commits the assassination. Now
there's obviously more modern versions of this. I would note
that another example of this, I think is, and I've
studied this a little bit, not too deeply, but enough,
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would be Sirhan. Sirhan who assassinated Yeah, I mean he
he's been interviewed. I think that RFK Junior believes him.
He's the longest held man in American prison. And he
does not remember what happened. It was almost like he
had been tampered with mentally. The night before the assassination,
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he was having at a party with people who were
involved with Charlie Manson. Okay, who is another one who
was part of maybe this sort of I don't want
to use, you know, say CIA, because I don't know,
but there was this kind of mind control thing going
on there. And he said that there was some kind
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of a trigger. He was at the hotel and it
was like a sound that went off or he saw
this woman in a red dress and there was something
happened and they felt like he passed out and then
before he knows that he's awake and he has the
gun and you know. I think that there's a lot
of people, a lot of who have interviewed him over
the years who believed the story that he really didn't
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know what was going on. Another example is this guy
who shot up the gay nightclub in Orlando. The team
I actually wrote a short book about this. For my college.
We had to pick, like in my criminology class, we
were given a list of people that we had to
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do a dive into and study, and I picked him
and I discovered that he had been on several trips
to Saudi Arabia. He was one of these disaffected guys,
kind of an in the closet kind of a guy,
and he I think there's evidence that he came back
from one of these trips and he was very different.
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According to people who knew him, it was like his
brain had been he'd been tampered with, and that his
experience of doing the shooting was one where he didn't
know what he was doing. It was almost like he
was under some kind of you know, hypnosis, so that
you know, yeah, no, yeah. The Hashisham Well, that's the theory.
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And like the Israelis have found that some of these
guys who will show up in a pizza parlam with
bomb belts and pull the trigger. Some of them, like
were caught in advance and they were stopped and they
were interviewed and they said, look, it's almost like I
was him. I didn't know what I was doing. Now
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that I'm awake, I do know, and I'm sorry that
I was doing this. I didn't mean to do it,
but there was something going on. They were. It's sort of,
you know, a modern version of the Hashishian you know,
I mean our intelligence app arratus, I mean what Michael J.
Glennon calls the double government. They you know, they've studied
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and they've gone deeply into psychological conditioning on a mass scale,
and I think the master at that and the one
they emulate is Hitler, but also on the individual scale,
by using psychotropic drugs and by using other means to
get people to do things that they want to do.
And there's a certain type of personality that they seek
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out who it might be vulnerable to that, you know,
people like I don't know either, but it's been around,
and the British are involved with the Tavistock Institute, and
certainly the Soviet Union was involved with the Polytechnic institute.
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It's and the Israelis are involved certainly with Masade. I
mean this isn't new. They all interact with each other,
and they all, while they all have their own agen is,
I think they share information about how to do these
things and how to conduct these sorts of operations. So
maybe there was someone and again I'm not saying I
know anything is obviously, all I know is what I
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read in the paper. But there might have been someone
on the inside, a what Michael J. Glennon would call
a Trumanite who wanted to take out Brian Johnson, Brian Thompson.
I mean from the insurance. You know, there was an
incentive to do this, and so they had this no
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I mean yeah, I mean we talked about that. I mean,
he screwed people left and right. There were a lot
of people who were angry. And plus the amount of
money he was making, that's just greed. You know why,
you know you think that he was getting. His salary
was almost ten million dollars a year. I mean, the
guys living in Minnesota. There's pictures of him with his
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yacht on a lake, with his beautiful wife and two
beautiful young sons, and this magnificent mansion. Did he need
more money? Why was he doing an insider trading deals
until we could make more? I mean that's another question.
Why do people get I mean I would have been
very happy, I mean most you know, I mean, having
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a twentieth of what he.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
Had, Well, what do you do with it?
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I don't think he was. But the point is that
to make him do stuff like that's corrupt. On top
of why would he even risk it? But even I mean,
hasn't he ten million bucks a year? And he's going
to now stiff his own shareholders and his own employees
by doing this insider deal and walking away while everybody
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else is screwed because the stock plummets and people lose
all of their you know, their their pensions and they're
you know, elderly people lose them. I mean, it's just
the greed of it is astonishing. I mean, this is
not right, right, h mhm right?
Speaker 8 (48:29):
Picks up a young a younger woman, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But at least he earned it fair and square. He
invented something and it took off. It's like, okay, okay,
I mean I don't begrudge someone like I wouldn't begrudge
like a baseball player who is making what he makes,
or I wouldn't begrudge a talk show host or a
musician who makes what they make. Its obscene, but they're
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making it because that's what the market will bear. They're
doing it honestly. That's in the case of Thompson, though
he was not doing it honestly. I mean he was
and that he was getting, you know, like more money
per year than I've seen amount of money. But that's
the way it is. I mean, that was in the
open and his company decided to do that. Now I
think there might should be some regulation around that. But
(49:33):
even so, that is one thing. But the other thing
is on top of this, he has to do this
deal that that was causing, you know, investigation. I mean
why it's just I mean, I suppose it's the same
question of like, I don't know, it makes you think,
I don't know why. It's a different subject, but it
makes you think of Bill Clinton. You know, he had
(49:54):
to have sex in public with a woman on the
steps of the state capitol. You know, it wasn't enough,
you know, to you know, be be having an extramarital there.
But he was like the thrill of it.
Speaker 9 (50:06):
I suppose you know, you know, you enjoyed, you know,
you're going to the church and waving a Bible in
people's face and then going back and having having various
assignations with Monica Lewinsky in the Oval office, right, because it.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Gave him a such of power, like hey, right, and
(50:56):
he and he enjoyed that, and he had nothing but
contempt for them, and he was like, you know, like
kind of sticking it to them all. And hey, even
in his book, which was a thousand pages of absolute
drivel and dull crap, he says in one sentence he
acknowledges with regard to he talks about Lewinsky only, but
(51:17):
he says, I did it because I can. That was
his explanation. He left it at that, I did it
because I can. You know, this kind of arrogance and
this sort of you know, sticking it in the eye
of the very establishment that created him and that he
served so servilely. Right. I mean, it's I don't know why,
(51:40):
I how I equate that with Brian Thompson. I mean,
I don't think his kind of corruption is different. Before
you know, you're into your Europe, your attending parties with
P Diddy before you know it right.
Speaker 10 (52:07):
No, no, no, he was not known as I don't
think anyone has any sympathy for him.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Although you know, I don't think anybody deserves to be
gunned down like that. You know, there's something about it
that it would have at least been decent if he
was able to face the guy, you know, eyeball to
eyeball before getting Gonne down. I mean, but you know,
the doing it that way was not the American way.
It's not like the old right, the old West end
(52:51):
of the model with wirret earp. You meet somebody at
high noon at the OK Corral and you see who
gets to pull the gun first. It's not like a
you know, John Wayne or some you know the movies,
you know it was. It was not really done that way,
and that's wrong. I mean, the whole thing is wrong.
I don't think anybody deserves to be assassinated. But you know,
(53:12):
he's not a sympathetic figure. And this other guy seems,
as I said, like some kind of a patsy I
don't know, showing up at a McDonald's and you know
he's identified by an employee and the police company's got
all everything there. He's got his fake ideas, he's got
the gun, he's got everything sitting there. It's just a
(53:33):
little too neat. There's something about it that's it just
doesn't add up. It just doesn't add up. I don't
think we'll have it get to the bottom of it.
And and of course it's going to be a sensation
that on trial, because he's quite good looking, and women
(53:55):
are gonna I mean, you know, oh, he's like the
Menendez brothers, right. I mean, with all due respect, I
remember my late grandmother said, I can't stop watching the
Iran Contra hearings because all of the north is so handsome.
It's like, this is there's going to be that going on, right,
(54:15):
I mean, unfortunately that's that. Maybe maybe that says something
about women. I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying
to make cast dis versions here, but you know, there's
gonna be it's gonna be a show. It's going to
be like a you It'll be like you know, Hollywood.
And that's why all the media was covering it the way.
(54:43):
Images of him on TikTok, where he's dressed like a
Catholic saint and with holding like a heart. You know,
it looks like almost like Jesus. So there is this
going on, and that's not good. That's not healthy. You know,
there's something about that that it's a snapshot of our society.
I suppose, thank you. Oh yeah. And by the way,
(55:19):
all of Trump's nominees are going to be approved. That
I mean, they've got fifty three Republicans. Even if they
lose like Mkowski and some of these rhinos, they still
have enough between fifty three. They've got three extras, plus
they got a tiebreaker with which makes it for they're
(55:40):
going to get them approved. And there was just another
hoax or another smear job attempted against Xceth. I don't
know if you saw this, but the media was above.
Big Establishment magazine was about to go out with the latest.
They were going to claim that he never really was
accepted at West Point, and somebody on the inside at
(56:02):
West Point was working to make sure that he was
Like information about that was taken out, but heg seth
fortunately saved his receipts. He had the letter of acceptance,
he had the documents which showed that he was accepted
at West Point. He chose not to go and said
(56:24):
he went to Princeton, but he had it, he put it,
he posted it, he brought it up, and they canceled
the story and West Point changed the record back. So
you know, you have to be careful. I mean, you know,
they're going after these people and they're failing. You know,
it's not going to happen. All of them are going
(56:45):
to be approved, and it's very exciting. Trump is going
to hit the ground running. Yeah, it's well, you know, yes,
(57:05):
I mean I feel very hopeful, you know, I really do.
And I was, you know, they're into the same old crap.
I was listening on the way over here to do
the show to NPR because I want to see what
the other side's saying. And they were interviewing you you
can guess none other than McCabe right lied to Congress
(57:29):
as something like twenty times, never charged, disgraced, part of
the PAISA fake dossier case against Trump, the Russia, Russia, Russia,
and he's just spouting the same old garbage. I mean,
it's just not working for them. Oh. Trump tried to
(57:50):
you know, was trying to assert power, and he was,
you know, he was like trying to overthrow the election results.
And this nobody believes that anymore. That's right, But it's not.
(58:18):
It's it's it's already been rejected by the American people.
It's not it. Nobody believes that stuff anymore. And yet
it's like they're a broken record. And how do you
think they're all there drinking the same old kool aid
(58:38):
that they've they've been into and it's not I don't
even think that they I don't even think the host
was buying it. It's like you could just tell, you know,
I mean, I I having been a talk show host,
I can hear things, you know, because I'm sort of
tuned into what people are really thinking. And they're not
even buying this anymore. It's just, uh, it's it's over
(58:59):
for them. And hopefully he might be held legally call
down to the carpet for first off, a lying to Congress.
I mean, Steve benn and Peter Navarro went to prison
for a lot less than what he did. I mean,
they just refused to testify to this phony committee that
(59:19):
all of those people should be held accountable, especially Liz Cheney. God,
I mean, the worst stealing, you know, the destroying. She's
going to need a pardon because she's in trouble, and
she should be. Yeah, they destroyed everything before the Republicans
(59:41):
took over, and they don't. It's like the whole thing
was illegitimate from the beginning. And even even Speaker Johnson
has said that publicly that they should reconstitute a legitimate
committee and actually look into all of this stuff. I
hope they appoint Matt Gates as a special prosecutor to
look into like the twenty twenty election for starters. Maybe
(01:00:04):
that might be asking too much, but we'll see, you know,
they should because they need to get to the bottom
of that once and for a while, after all these
years of gaslighting and attacking anybody and who questioned that
election as almost being like a subhuman It would be
a beautiful thing to see them get into it. But
(01:00:26):
that might be too much to ask. I'm happy that
Trump's been elected. Oh really, they're gonna need a Yeah,
they want all these rotten criminals, Hillary Fauci, the whole
stinking of shift. They'll all get this blanket pardon before
(01:00:50):
Biden leaves office. It's gonna destroy whatever's left of that
awful party. I don't think any American is gonna buy that,
you know, it's just an ugly, sickening and pathetic way
for this illegitimate regime to go down the tubes. Anyways,
So Mike, what do you have coming up on the
(01:01:11):
sub stack.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Well, you're doing is a passion. I mean, it's it's
not necessarily to make a little differs. Yeah, okay, good.
(01:02:07):
I know. I don't know what to do with myself
after four years of like, oh, you know, it's like
it's almost like you have to shift gears. It is,
I believe me. I'm grateful and I'm I feel very
excited as we enter into the Christmas season and it's
just a beautiful time, you know, and it's beautiful to
(01:02:31):
watch the criminals scurrying around and thank god, Cash Ptello's
going to be there. What a great guy. He's going
to clean out that rat's nest at the FBI. You know,
he really is. And so these are all great. Pam Bondy,
she's fine. You know, these people, every one of them
is excellent. A couple of bad ones, but so be it,
(01:02:51):
you know, but the important ones are in place and
they're ready to go. So anyway, Mike, but so I'll
talk to you next week, and uh, be well, all
right
Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
M K
I really, I'm really very hamhanded when it comes to
these things, notoriously so all right, so here we go,
all right, welcome to the program, Charles Moskowitz. Here I
finally figured everything out, Mike, in terms of the technicalities
of this, which are wonderful when you can do them,
(00:23):
you know. But yeah, I mean, but here it is.
It's working, and I just want to make sure I'm
signed into Skype in case we get any calls. Yep,
there we are. We're at Skype. We can take calls.
By the way, five o'weight six three seven five five
nine six five o weeight six three seven nine nine
(00:48):
five five nine six. I wonder if I should take
the ultimate risk and go live on TikTok, which is
a place where I'm generally not welcomed, but I'm going
to do it. Yeah, We'll live on TikTok. Welcome aboard TikTok.
Yeah for now until they shut it off. But here
(01:08):
we are, you know, Mike. I wanted to talk a
little bit today about the two cases, of course that
are in the news where in both cases someone ended
up dead, and in both cases two individuals were charged
with the crime. And that is the case of Luigi
(01:30):
Mangioni and the insurance man, and also the case of
Daniel Penny on the subway in New York. These things
seem to have coincided in terms of Daniel Penny's case
being dismissed and Mangioni being caught at a McDonald's in Pennsylvania.
(01:51):
And I think that there's an element he was acquitted exactly.
Thank you. Now I want to just comment on each
of them. On the first one, the case of Daniel Penny,
this is an example of how critical race theory has
(02:12):
taken over the minds of this country, at least the
elite minds, the legal minds, the high ground, and in
that everything comes down to race. Race had absolutely nothing
to do with it. I mean, this guy was dangerous,
He was wielding a knife, was threatening to attack people,
(02:32):
hit a long record of extreme violence. He was not sane,
and Daniel Penny, being a marine off duty, conducted a
function by which he subdued him and saved a lot
of lives in that subway according to everyone who was there. Right.
(02:57):
But no, I mean it just happened to be a
coincidence that the guy happened to be black. It had
nothing to do with anything but the fact that it
was made into an issue and it was brought to
even brought to court, but she never should have been.
And then you had this radical leftist attorney trying to
(03:19):
put Daniel Penny in prison for life, I mean, or
put him in charge him with manslaughter. Shows how out
of whack our system has become. This guy ordinarily would
be hailed as a hero, which he is. He saved
lives by stopping this person from going on a violent attack.
(03:41):
And just the twisted means by which our society now
looks at these things. Everything has to be looked at
through a prism of race, and everything in that context
has to be looked at through the phenomena of anyone
who is, in this case a white man is naturally
(04:02):
seen as the oppressor, and anyone who isn't is seen
as the victim. And yes, well, let's just say that
(04:33):
they tend to I mean, I do respect now. I
don't want to get shut down on TikTok here, but
let's just say that there's something twisted going on there. No,
(05:11):
I think there's society at large views Daniel Perry not
only as a hero, but as someone who stood up
and took, you know, like an ordinary situation where you
would protect people's lives. I mean, I think that most
New Yorkers, including most liberals, think of that. I think
this way, it's just this radical establishment, the very people
(05:36):
that President Trump won against, who have become so twisted
that they think there's some virtue in this kind of
a bizarre and inverted outlook that would lead to prosecuting
this man for Yeah, no, that's right. And now I
(07:04):
think because of this acquittal, it's time to revisit the
case of Darren Chauven Derek Chauvin, who also basically was
putting this man in a hole that he had been
trained to do as a police officer in Minnesota, and
(07:29):
that they had undergone training to do that procedure. Now,
maybe they shouldn't have been doing it, but that was
what he was trained to do, it had been done
many times before, and that he did it because this
man was resisting arrest. He wasn't he refused to get
out of the car, and he was behaving in what
all observers said appeared to be violently. The fact that
(07:51):
he died is something that they could not have foreseen.
The man was on vent and al and he was
on other drugs. They found in his system that he
had a large art and yet this became another one
of these successes for this leftist establishment that then ginned
up this case with somehow the fact that he happened
(08:14):
to be black had anything to do with it, which
it didn't, and that it was he became like a
a symbol of all of the situations historically which are
real where black men were attacked. Yes, but this particular
case it didn't really add up to that. It became
more kind of a you know, an archetype of something else,
(08:38):
and that's sort of how they use the legal system
in a way.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Right.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No, it didn't work in a backfight on them. And
just not to get off on a deep on a topic,
but I view Pilot as having been part of the
deep state in his day, and that in the case
of of Chauvin, you had the deep state getting putting
on kinji cloth and bowing in the capitol, remember that
(10:06):
with Pelosi. And then you had them launching these what
I would describe as a chrystal Nacht against black communities
in major cities where where businesses were looted, houses and
businesses were burned and people were shot to death in response,
almost in a coordinated way, while the media, while filming
(10:28):
the fires was saying, this is a peaceful, mostly peaceful
protests him. But I also want to talk about Mangioni
because there are certain conspiracy theories around this, and I
have no idea about any of them, who knows the
truth about it, But I think there are a couple
that were visit. Probably not, there's some very strange things
(10:53):
around it, but but but there are there is social
benefit in examining certain as aspects of this and one
of them. And again, and I am not in any
way in favor of this insurance man getting gunned down
like that, of course, but it did bring up some
issues about what's happening in insurance that Brian Thompson probably
(11:20):
in accord and you know something about this, Mike, with
other insurance companies over the past maybe three or four years,
maybe since Biden took took office, I don't know, maybe earlier,
they had consolidated and become so huge that they were
in a position to deny benefits to people who may
(11:43):
otherwise have gotten benefits. And these are people who had
paid into that system for decades and who owed that system.
Now I'm speaking here as somebody who actually got a
life and health insurance license, so I know something about this,
and I remember being in the office when I'm trying
to sell those policies. I was terrible at it. I
didn't last long. But I remember my supervisor there on
(12:08):
the phone with this poor man who had bought an
extended policy. I'm not going to mention the company, but
you know, like an advanced policy for cancer. And he
was calling because he had cancer, and my supervisor was saying, sorry,
we're not going to cover that because it was on
(12:29):
this day and not on that day, because it's this
kind of cancer, not that kind of cancer. And I
was listening to this and that conversation made my bloodkerdel.
It was really, really brutal. Now I can understand where
people get very hot under the collar in these matters.
I think in the case of Luigi, I don't know
(12:53):
what the truth of it is, but my understanding is
that his mother had some kind of a disease and
was they thought that that covered by insurance and they
were not getting the coverage, and that since this massive
consolidation on the part of major insurance companies. People are
not getting the coverage that they previously got, and that
many of them are dying they finally get approved for
(13:16):
a drug, that they get approved for a procedure and
it's too late. The additional aspect to this that I
think should be considered is that in recent years, insurance
companies and other major companies are switching to artificial intelligence
to make decisions. I think this is something This is
(13:37):
an aspect that needs to be examined. I'm not in
any way an expert about it. I was listening to
Joe Allen talk about this. He's the author of aon
He's been a guest of mine, he's a regular with
Steve Bannon, and he pointed out that like, for example, recently,
there was a case with someone who's being denied coverage
(13:58):
while they were in the middle of anesthesia, right the
insurance company or we don't cover this, and it was
not It was a decision that was not made by
a person. It was done through these algorithms, the same
algorithms that, by the way, not to go into this,
but deal with voting machines. But we won't talk about that, right.
(14:19):
I mean, it looks at averages, and it looks at
the mean and the standard deviation and then it makes
an estimate, and it's not really a person in charge
of it. And the result is that more and more
people are being denied coverage that they paid for or
that they at least thought they had, and that ultimately
they get when it's too late. So he's expressing a
(14:44):
rage over that that is actually a real issue. Now,
obviously he shouldn't have taken it out on this man,
shooting him in the back in cold blood. However, it
is a cry that does resonate with people well. And
the other factor with regard to Brian Thompson is that
(15:04):
he had been making tens of millions of dollars more
than anyone had made in recent years in that industry.
And he's not the only one. And I think that,
you know, you know, I'm a small government guy. However,
with insurance particularly, there is and there was pretty significant
(15:26):
regulation over these sorts of things. You know, there certainly
is regulation in terms of them having to have a
reserve account to cover policies and a reinsurer and that
sort of thing. But I think there was regulation around
these sort of mega consolidations and massive salary increases, which
(15:50):
has taken out of the funds that they're earning, and
that gives an incentive to deny policies when they may
not have otherwise been denied. What do you think?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Right?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
One? Nine?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
And then look and then you have the doctor says,
still looking at a computer screen rather than looking at
his patient. Yeah, no, no, right, they have an incentive
(20:22):
to deny. And yet I don't know, I don't know
if you can answer this, and it's kind of a
paradoxical situation. But you have drugs that are very expensive,
and I particularly would note some of these injectables that
are becoming very popular like ozempic and will go me
and all of them, and they cost thousands of dollars,
(20:44):
and yet the insurance company is happy to cover that,
and so it's out of pocket for the consumer, like
just a cope of whatever fifty bucks. How does the
insurance company, I mean, you know, aren't they losing on that?
I mean, why are they doing that? Yeah, you know
(21:11):
that everyone's making a buck on that. I mean the
drug company h m hmm, yeah, it doesn't the insurance
(21:36):
company have an incentive to not cover these drugs because
I mean, how are they making money from that? Yeah,
(21:59):
But then you can say that about a lot of things, like,
for example, I recently read that the the industry of
doing sex change operations for children is like a billions
of dollars. Who is covering those costs? Not the people
that are doing the sex you know, the family of
the paying for their child. You know, God forbid anybody
(22:19):
does that. But I'm just saying that this, you know,
this is a huge boom for right, Well, somebody's making
(22:53):
a pretty good penny on that. And there's uh, that's all.
I get the sense that that entire thing, besides having
a political and social aspect, is all about money. I mean,
there's huge you know, usually these hospitals are making a
great and then of course that even brings up the
bigger issue, which is COVID. How did they make money?
(23:15):
I mean, you know, hospitals made money every time that
they called a case COVID. If somebody went to the
hospital with a broken arm and they tested positive for COVID,
they called it a COVID case and get money for that.
Who was paying that? I mean, in that case, I
think the government was paying the money. Right Well, yeah,
(24:35):
but in the case of approaching a purchasing a car,
you do pay for that. I mean I owned, I
had to take a loan, Yeah, but I ended up
paying a lot more than that because if I take
out a loan, I probably am spending an extra year
(24:58):
of payments to pay the interest on the money. So
everybody I get where they make money on that, that
money comes out of my pocket. But with issues like
COVID or issues like these other things, that is very
little comes out of the consumer's pocket. Somebody, but somebody
is making big money. M hm. Right, Well, I think
(26:01):
that we know that a lot of the money and
the so called war and poverty which was taken out
of the Social Security Trust Fund went to all of
this whole cottage industry of social workers and social scientists
who were there to handle poverty and who were basically
had incentives to not solve the problem because yeah, I mean,
(26:23):
the more cases they could show, the more money they get.
You know, it's kind of a I mean, isn't this
(26:45):
an example? I Mean, even like we look at Nixon
launched the so called war on cancer, right, one of
the first thing they did, one of the first things
they did was and not to get into a topic
here that I could get banned for. But they got
rid of latrop right, which is basically the inside of
a peach pit, and which has proven to help cancer
(27:06):
or you know, cure cancers. I don't think this. I
think that's not being admitted that these things have a benefit.
I don't know if they cure cancer, but they have
a benefit in terms of managing it. But the drug
companies couldn't make a bug on that, so they got
rid of it, and they denounced it, and they had it.
It's not totally off the market, but it's been vilified.
(27:28):
It's sort of like what they did more recently with
I shouldn't say this because I'm on YouTube today, but
hydroxy hydroxy you know what, and ivor you know what.
Right now, three years later, the medical journals are acknowledging
that these things are standard treatment for viruses and probably
(27:48):
had they been promoted, they would have saved a lot
of lives and they would have reduced the you know,
the involvement of COVID, which was a real thing. And
by the way, this is the one, probably one of
the few issues that I do blame Donald Trump for
as president. I think he could have done a better
(28:09):
job of standing up for those things. I think he
was listening too much to Fauci and Berks and this
whole rotten establishment around him. So I do I do
take I do hold that against him. But the point
is that those those drugs long ago FDA approved the
(28:30):
long standard record of reducing virus and his treatment of
virus if it's taken early, they were denounced. I mean,
you know, there's a there's a perverse incentive to perpetrate
these diseases. I don't know if it's a financial thing,
probably is all of it. It's financial, they're making money
on it.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
And it's also out of a social agenda, right.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
H m hm.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
No, we know that. We know those great doctors who
questioned it. These are amongst America's most respected medical people.
I mean, uh write doctor Robert Malone, doctor Peter McCullough.
They were on the top of their field. I mean,
they had everything to lose by doing this, and they
they did. They were knocked out off, They're out of
(30:41):
their field. They did sacrifice a lot to bring it up.
Oh yeah, I mean the Act was responsible for more
(31:02):
age deaths than AIDS itself. From what I understand, very
(31:26):
very suspicious. And he was a Nobel prize winning scientist
who I think invented the test kit for that was
would later be used to test PCR.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right, okay, right, mm hm h.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Oh. By the way, I would say march Elias is
a very brilliant lawyer. Evil but brilliant that may be.
But no, but he's he can't be underestimated. He's very
good at what he does.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
He's evil, but yeah, probably you know, probably, yeah, oh
(34:35):
my god.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah. And not to mention the fact that I think
they all got rich off of off Cackles, the Cackles campaign, right,
they shelled out over a billion dollars and to who
knows who, consultants became multimillionaires overnight. But by the way,
just for the record, I should note I've just been
shut down on TikTok. I don't know what something you said, Mike.
(35:01):
I think I think it might have been the business
of of malus or or there was some trigger that
led them to shut off the stream. Yeah, there are people, No,
I had the people. When you go on TikTok, people
pick it up. I mean I have about eight thousand
followers now even though I've been shadow band and there
(35:25):
are people keeping tabs on me on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Oh yeah, well that's a that's a that's taboo, I mean.
And now, of course there's rumors that this corrupt, illegitimate
regime is going to issue some kind of a retroactive
pardon for Faucia before they leave. But you touched on
something that gets into the second conspiracy theory around Brian Thompson,
(36:12):
the insurance man. And I'm not going to be articulate
about this, I'll be general, but generally speaking, they were
under investigation by the Federal Trade Commission for antitrust activities.
There was rumors that there had been inside of trading
(36:36):
in that Thompson and several other figures who are multi
these people are super rich, they had been alerted in
advance that they were under investigation, which they then took
that information and sold all the stock parketing tens of
millions of dollars and basically screwing over the shareholders and
(36:58):
their own employees in process. And that this case was
coming up for hearings, and that Thompson, rumor has it,
was planning on spilling the beans on a bunch of
things in order to save his own hide. And he
was in a position who's one of the top figures
(37:20):
in the insurance industry, who probably knew everything about everyone,
and including apparently not to mention names, but Nancy Pelosi
and her husband who apparently made a few bucks on
that deal as well, and some other people in Congress.
So there may have been an incentive to knock him off.
(37:45):
I'm not saying I know anything about this. I don't,
but that is one of the theories that's out there.
It all looks a little too neat, and in terms
of the timing. When you have a situation like this,
you have to look at the timing and you have
to yeah, and you have to take a look at
(38:10):
who benefits who benefited from this?
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
No, And he strikes me as the classic Patsy, right
like Lee Harvey Oswald. You know, just it's like, you know,
I was talking about this the other day as a guest,
that there's this historic medieval group called the Hashishim, the
(38:43):
assassins that we're operating out of out of Islamic Persia.
Who would do this thing where they would you know,
I don't want to use the word brainwash, but they
would find some young, disaffected, disillusioned man in a community,
in a village somewhere, usually poor and just kind of aimless.
(39:04):
They would whisk him up to this palace in the
mountains of Persia where he would be indulged with everything
you can imagine. He would have everything in his you know,
every kind of like vice, and he'd lived this enormously
luxurious experience. And then after and not to mention, a
lot of hash and a lot of drugs. That's where
(39:27):
the word hash hashish comes from Assha. And also it's
where the word assassin comes from the hashisham. These are
all come from this cult. Then, after living that wonderful
life for about three weeks and thinking he's in some
kind of a nirvana or some kind of an Islamic
heaven and actually being told that he had passed away
(39:47):
and that he was in heaven, they then send him
back to his village with the job of taking someone out.
You have to kill this person, and when you do,
there essence, this soul is going to enter your body
and you were then going to fly up and have
eternal joys of everything. You know, you'll live this life
(40:10):
with the seventy virgins and all of that, and then
they send him out and he commits the assassination. Now
there's obviously more modern versions of this. I would note
that another example of this, I think is, and I've
studied this a little bit, not too deeply, but enough,
(40:33):
would be Sirhan. Sirhan who assassinated Yeah, I mean he
he's been interviewed. I think that RFK Junior believes him.
He's the longest held man in American prison. And he
does not remember what happened. It was almost like he
had been tampered with mentally. The night before the assassination,
(40:57):
he was having at a party with people who were
involved with Charlie Manson. Okay, who is another one who
was part of maybe this sort of I don't want
to use, you know, say CIA, because I don't know,
but there was this kind of mind control thing going
on there. And he said that there was some kind
(41:17):
of a trigger. He was at the hotel and it
was like a sound that went off or he saw
this woman in a red dress and there was something
happened and they felt like he passed out and then
before he knows that he's awake and he has the
gun and you know. I think that there's a lot
of people, a lot of who have interviewed him over
the years who believed the story that he really didn't
(41:40):
know what was going on. Another example is this guy
who shot up the gay nightclub in Orlando. The team
I actually wrote a short book about this. For my college.
We had to pick, like in my criminology class, we
were given a list of people that we had to
(42:00):
do a dive into and study, and I picked him
and I discovered that he had been on several trips
to Saudi Arabia. He was one of these disaffected guys,
kind of an in the closet kind of a guy,
and he I think there's evidence that he came back
from one of these trips and he was very different.
(42:22):
According to people who knew him, it was like his
brain had been he'd been tampered with, and that his
experience of doing the shooting was one where he didn't
know what he was doing. It was almost like he
was under some kind of you know, hypnosis, so that
you know, yeah, no, yeah. The Hashisham Well, that's the theory.
(43:23):
And like the Israelis have found that some of these
guys who will show up in a pizza parlam with
bomb belts and pull the trigger. Some of them, like
were caught in advance and they were stopped and they
were interviewed and they said, look, it's almost like I
was him. I didn't know what I was doing. Now
(43:45):
that I'm awake, I do know, and I'm sorry that
I was doing this. I didn't mean to do it,
but there was something going on. They were. It's sort of,
you know, a modern version of the Hashishian you know,
I mean our intelligence app arratus, I mean what Michael J.
Glennon calls the double government. They you know, they've studied
(44:07):
and they've gone deeply into psychological conditioning on a mass scale,
and I think the master at that and the one
they emulate is Hitler, but also on the individual scale,
by using psychotropic drugs and by using other means to
get people to do things that they want to do.
And there's a certain type of personality that they seek
(44:29):
out who it might be vulnerable to that, you know,
people like I don't know either, but it's been around,
and the British are involved with the Tavistock Institute, and
certainly the Soviet Union was involved with the Polytechnic institute.
(44:51):
It's and the Israelis are involved certainly with Masade. I
mean this isn't new. They all interact with each other,
and they all, while they all have their own agen is,
I think they share information about how to do these
things and how to conduct these sorts of operations. So
maybe there was someone and again I'm not saying I
know anything is obviously, all I know is what I
(45:12):
read in the paper. But there might have been someone
on the inside, a what Michael J. Glennon would call
a Trumanite who wanted to take out Brian Johnson, Brian Thompson.
I mean from the insurance. You know, there was an
incentive to do this, and so they had this no
(45:50):
I mean yeah, I mean we talked about that. I mean,
he screwed people left and right. There were a lot
of people who were angry. And plus the amount of
money he was making, that's just greed. You know why,
you know you think that he was getting. His salary
was almost ten million dollars a year. I mean, the
guys living in Minnesota. There's pictures of him with his
(46:12):
yacht on a lake, with his beautiful wife and two
beautiful young sons, and this magnificent mansion. Did he need
more money? Why was he doing an insider trading deals
until we could make more? I mean that's another question.
Why do people get I mean I would have been
very happy, I mean most you know, I mean, having
(46:33):
a twentieth of what he.
Speaker 7 (46:34):
Had, Well, what do you do with it?
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I don't think he was. But the point is that
to make him do stuff like that's corrupt. On top
of why would he even risk it? But even I mean,
hasn't he ten million bucks a year? And he's going
to now stiff his own shareholders and his own employees
by doing this insider deal and walking away while everybody
(47:11):
else is screwed because the stock plummets and people lose
all of their you know, their their pensions and they're
you know, elderly people lose them. I mean, it's just
the greed of it is astonishing. I mean, this is
not right, right, h mhm right?
Speaker 8 (48:29):
Picks up a young a younger woman, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But at least he earned it fair and square. He
invented something and it took off. It's like, okay, okay,
I mean I don't begrudge someone like I wouldn't begrudge
like a baseball player who is making what he makes,
or I wouldn't begrudge a talk show host or a
musician who makes what they make. Its obscene, but they're
(49:11):
making it because that's what the market will bear. They're
doing it honestly. That's in the case of Thompson, though
he was not doing it honestly. I mean he was
and that he was getting, you know, like more money
per year than I've seen amount of money. But that's
the way it is. I mean, that was in the
open and his company decided to do that. Now I
think there might should be some regulation around that. But
(49:33):
even so, that is one thing. But the other thing
is on top of this, he has to do this
deal that that was causing, you know, investigation. I mean
why it's just I mean, I suppose it's the same
question of like, I don't know, it makes you think,
I don't know why. It's a different subject, but it
makes you think of Bill Clinton. You know, he had
(49:54):
to have sex in public with a woman on the
steps of the state capitol. You know, it wasn't enough,
you know, to you know, be be having an extramarital there.
But he was like the thrill of it.
Speaker 9 (50:06):
I suppose you know, you know, you enjoyed, you know,
you're going to the church and waving a Bible in
people's face and then going back and having having various
assignations with Monica Lewinsky in the Oval office, right, because it.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Gave him a such of power, like hey, right, and
(50:56):
he and he enjoyed that, and he had nothing but
contempt for them, and he was like, you know, like
kind of sticking it to them all. And hey, even
in his book, which was a thousand pages of absolute
drivel and dull crap, he says in one sentence he
acknowledges with regard to he talks about Lewinsky only, but
(51:17):
he says, I did it because I can. That was
his explanation. He left it at that, I did it
because I can. You know, this kind of arrogance and
this sort of you know, sticking it in the eye
of the very establishment that created him and that he
served so servilely. Right. I mean, it's I don't know why,
(51:40):
I how I equate that with Brian Thompson. I mean,
I don't think his kind of corruption is different. Before
you know, you're into your Europe, your attending parties with
P Diddy before you know it right.
Speaker 10 (52:07):
No, no, no, he was not known as I don't
think anyone has any sympathy for him.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Although you know, I don't think anybody deserves to be
gunned down like that. You know, there's something about it
that it would have at least been decent if he
was able to face the guy, you know, eyeball to
eyeball before getting Gonne down. I mean, but you know,
the doing it that way was not the American way.
It's not like the old right, the old West end
(52:51):
of the model with wirret earp. You meet somebody at
high noon at the OK Corral and you see who
gets to pull the gun first. It's not like a
you know, John Wayne or some you know the movies,
you know it was. It was not really done that way,
and that's wrong. I mean, the whole thing is wrong.
I don't think anybody deserves to be assassinated. But you know,
(53:12):
he's not a sympathetic figure. And this other guy seems,
as I said, like some kind of a patsy I
don't know, showing up at a McDonald's and you know
he's identified by an employee and the police company's got
all everything there. He's got his fake ideas, he's got
the gun, he's got everything sitting there. It's just a
(53:33):
little too neat. There's something about it that's it just
doesn't add up. It just doesn't add up. I don't
think we'll have it get to the bottom of it.
And and of course it's going to be a sensation
that on trial, because he's quite good looking, and women
(53:55):
are gonna I mean, you know, oh, he's like the
Menendez brothers, right. I mean, with all due respect, I
remember my late grandmother said, I can't stop watching the
Iran Contra hearings because all of the north is so handsome.
It's like, this is there's going to be that going on, right,
(54:15):
I mean, unfortunately that's that. Maybe maybe that says something
about women. I don't know. I mean, I'm not trying
to make cast dis versions here, but you know, there's
gonna be it's gonna be a show. It's going to
be like a you It'll be like you know, Hollywood.
And that's why all the media was covering it the way.
(54:43):
Images of him on TikTok, where he's dressed like a
Catholic saint and with holding like a heart. You know,
it looks like almost like Jesus. So there is this
going on, and that's not good. That's not healthy. You know,
there's something about that that it's a snapshot of our society.
I suppose, thank you. Oh yeah. And by the way,
(55:19):
all of Trump's nominees are going to be approved. That
I mean, they've got fifty three Republicans. Even if they
lose like Mkowski and some of these rhinos, they still
have enough between fifty three. They've got three extras, plus
they got a tiebreaker with which makes it for they're
(55:40):
going to get them approved. And there was just another
hoax or another smear job attempted against Xceth. I don't
know if you saw this, but the media was above.
Big Establishment magazine was about to go out with the latest.
They were going to claim that he never really was
accepted at West Point, and somebody on the inside at
(56:02):
West Point was working to make sure that he was
Like information about that was taken out, but heg seth
fortunately saved his receipts. He had the letter of acceptance,
he had the documents which showed that he was accepted
at West Point. He chose not to go and said
(56:24):
he went to Princeton, but he had it, he put it,
he posted it, he brought it up, and they canceled
the story and West Point changed the record back. So
you know, you have to be careful. I mean, you know,
they're going after these people and they're failing. You know,
it's not going to happen. All of them are going
(56:45):
to be approved, and it's very exciting. Trump is going
to hit the ground running. Yeah, it's well, you know, yes,
(57:05):
I mean I feel very hopeful, you know, I really do.
And I was, you know, they're into the same old crap.
I was listening on the way over here to do
the show to NPR because I want to see what
the other side's saying. And they were interviewing you you
can guess none other than McCabe right lied to Congress
(57:29):
as something like twenty times, never charged, disgraced, part of
the PAISA fake dossier case against Trump, the Russia, Russia, Russia,
and he's just spouting the same old garbage. I mean,
it's just not working for them. Oh. Trump tried to
(57:50):
you know, was trying to assert power, and he was,
you know, he was like trying to overthrow the election results.
And this nobody believes that anymore. That's right, But it's not.
(58:18):
It's it's it's already been rejected by the American people.
It's not it. Nobody believes that stuff anymore. And yet
it's like they're a broken record. And how do you
think they're all there drinking the same old kool aid
(58:38):
that they've they've been into and it's not I don't
even think that they I don't even think the host
was buying it. It's like you could just tell, you know,
I mean, I I having been a talk show host,
I can hear things, you know, because I'm sort of
tuned into what people are really thinking. And they're not
even buying this anymore. It's just, uh, it's it's over
(58:59):
for them. And hopefully he might be held legally call
down to the carpet for first off, a lying to Congress.
I mean, Steve benn and Peter Navarro went to prison
for a lot less than what he did. I mean,
they just refused to testify to this phony committee that
(59:19):
all of those people should be held accountable, especially Liz Cheney. God,
I mean, the worst stealing, you know, the destroying. She's
going to need a pardon because she's in trouble, and
she should be. Yeah, they destroyed everything before the Republicans
(59:41):
took over, and they don't. It's like the whole thing
was illegitimate from the beginning. And even even Speaker Johnson
has said that publicly that they should reconstitute a legitimate
committee and actually look into all of this stuff. I
hope they appoint Matt Gates as a special prosecutor to
look into like the twenty twenty election for starters. Maybe
(01:00:04):
that might be asking too much, but we'll see, you know,
they should because they need to get to the bottom
of that once and for a while, after all these
years of gaslighting and attacking anybody and who questioned that
election as almost being like a subhuman It would be
a beautiful thing to see them get into it. But
(01:00:26):
that might be too much to ask. I'm happy that
Trump's been elected. Oh really, they're gonna need a Yeah,
they want all these rotten criminals, Hillary Fauci, the whole
stinking of shift. They'll all get this blanket pardon before
(01:00:50):
Biden leaves office. It's gonna destroy whatever's left of that
awful party. I don't think any American is gonna buy that,
you know, it's just an ugly, sickening and pathetic way
for this illegitimate regime to go down the tubes. Anyways,
So Mike, what do you have coming up on the
(01:01:11):
sub stack.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Well, you're doing is a passion. I mean, it's it's
not necessarily to make a little differs. Yeah, okay, good.
(01:02:07):
I know. I don't know what to do with myself
after four years of like, oh, you know, it's like
it's almost like you have to shift gears. It is,
I believe me. I'm grateful and I'm I feel very
excited as we enter into the Christmas season and it's
just a beautiful time, you know, and it's beautiful to
(01:02:31):
watch the criminals scurrying around and thank god, Cash Ptello's
going to be there. What a great guy. He's going
to clean out that rat's nest at the FBI. You know,
he really is. And so these are all great. Pam Bondy,
she's fine. You know, these people, every one of them
is excellent. A couple of bad ones, but so be it,
(01:02:51):
you know, but the important ones are in place and
they're ready to go. So anyway, Mike, but so I'll
talk to you next week, and uh, be well, all
right
Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
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