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Speaker 1 (20:52):
No zoo.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Can you hear me now, Mike.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, it's always works better when you're on the right side.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Oh okay, let me just talk in Yeah, okay, no problem.
So we're talking about Israel Iran. What else would I
talk about? Right? I mean, I'm I can't sleep, I'm upset.
It's it's worrisome, it's frustrating. You know, this is the
kind of thing that speaking as a Jew, I will say,
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I mean that I have always and most Jews also,
have always feared what happened. You know, you always are
worried that one day they're going to come in and
annihilate Israel. I remember in nineteen seventy three, I was
only a little kid at the time, the young keep
for war. I remember coming back from the synagogue and
my mother coming out and saying, and while we were
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there like hanging out, Israel is being invaded on three fronts,
and I remember we just my heart sank. It was like,
oh my god, this is it. And it was a
horrible feeling. It was a sinking. He really felt like
a loan. It was like, you know, they're just kind
of I mean, I have relatives there, I have a
stake in the game so called, and I just am
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feeling that way now. Now that doesn't mean that. Yeah,
I also have inside contacts in Israel, both somebody in
the military and somebody in the government, and they've told
me that Israel expected to launch this attack. They've been
working on this for a decade. They know, you know,
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the inside game there they are doing partially doing it
because Donald Trump is in the White House and they
know that. In the case of Biden, first of all,
he released billions of dollars to the Iranians.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
In cash.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, and they immediately said not only did they send
that to Hamas to launched the October seventh attack, but
I think think they also were seeding foreign groups to
attack Israel simultaneously, like as in on Harvard and Columbia.
The whole thing was very coordinated. And then once the
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war was underway, Biden refused to release weaponry to the
Israelis that they could be using now more effectively to
do this job in Iran, but they don't have access
to it and it's not so easy to get it there.
You know, these things don't just happen overnight. But once
Trump was in office, I think there was confidence that
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at least he would be lending kind of logistical support,
which we are doing in terms of helping Israel fend
off some of these missiles and whatnot. Now, should the
United States get involved in a land war? No, I
don't think so. I don't think that's the way to go.
I think that's that could trigger World War III.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I don't think there's going to be a land war,
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, please. I
think that the government of Iran is extremely unpopular within
its own country. I think if they get weakened, they're done.
I mean it's very very hard to believe that the
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man in the street or the woman in the street
is supporting this dictatorial regime. I think it's only going
to take a few more surgical strikes, and if they
have to kill Themala, then so be it. You know.
But my question for you is where does this put
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all these left wing Jews?
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Now?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Are they going to support Trump?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
More?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Well? Let me I want to talk about two things
that you brought up. Firstly, I have seen the videos
of Iranians egging Israel on, you know, do this? I
mean women rowing away, they're burkers, you know, and they're
free and you know, I saw the scene of people
like in the subway system in Tehran celebrating and honking
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their horns and waving Israeli flags. Do this thing. We
want to get rid of this rotten, oppressive regime, you know,
in the fog of war. I'm not sure I entirely
even believe that that could be. Frankly, Israeli propaganda could be.
I don't know. You know, people really rising up in Iran.
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I know that Nitanyahu has openly called for them to
do it. I mean he said, this is your chance
to rise up and get rid of this rotten, oppressive regime.
And it is a regime that's been an enemy of
the United States since nineteen seventy eight when the Ayatola
Komami took over. And they are death to America. I mean,
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they're you know, they're not a friend of the United States,
the Great say.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
For as you say, nearly fifty years. So here again
Trump is doing what all these other presidents should have done, exactly.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yet another mistake by Jimmy.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Carter yeh shafting the Chavaran when in fact he could
have maybe applied quiet pressure to ask the Shah to
do some reforms. I'm not saying he was perfect, but
to do this, you know, to really like terrible, terrible blunder.
And yeah, look, I mean I still I don't know
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if the Iranian people are going to really rise up
or not. I hope they do. But even whether they
do or not, Israel's objectives are really ultimately limited to
simply removing the nuclear threat and removing these these ballistic missiles,
and that is something that is worrisome. I don't know
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if they're going to be able to do it. I
don't know if they can do it on their own.
They've done an extraordinary amount. I mean, it's almost miraculous
what they've done. But yet today I'm reading about big
missiles hitting Israel. So I mean it's just Israel has
been having missiles fall on the country since October the sixth,
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and even before that. I mean, my daughter was in
Israel before that and she told me that there were missiles.
I mean, you know, there were air raids and people
were I mean, so this has been how they have
fought Israel. Now the last man standing, so to speak,
is Iran. The other countries have made peace with Israel, Jordan, Egypt,
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the Abraham Accord countries now even Syria. So really, Iran
is the last one that is gripped by this irrational
hatred of Israel and this anti Jewish idea that Israel
can't exist. And this is it right now. This is
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the war that will end that threat, or it will
end Israel one or the other. It's that simple.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
I do believe that the Iran people are going to
support any kind of war against Israel. I mean, you
have a very unpopular regime.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And what always has bothered me about this from day
one is if you go.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Back to Old Testament times, if you go back to
you know, early history, you're talked about the great Persian Empire.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
That got distorted when the Arabs came in.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
With Islam. I mean, let's be honest, Okay, hero is
one of the greatest civilizations, and King Cyrus was a
great friend of the Jews.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Iran has has always been maintain of friendly relations with Israel,
even recently, I mean the shav around, I mean the
even before him. The government in place in nineteen forty
eight was one of the first countries to recognize Israel
wasn't necessarily best buddies. But the point is that, you know,
I mean, it was a relatively normal relationship until these
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malas took over, and they have committed themselves to destroying
Israel for reasons that are as irrational as the whole rotten.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I don't know if Carter was smart enough to
come up with his insane policy. I think it was Brazinski.
But whatever, what a horrible mistake. And I'll tell you something,
I have a feeling that he was given the opportunity
to live to be so damn old God having the
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whole that this miserable sob would repent for all the
terrible mistakes he made.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Never happened, Never he doubled down. In the last utterances
of his life. He's with this here. He's engrossed in
Trump hatred, Trump derangement. I hope I live long enough
to vote against Trump. I mean, it's just, you know,
an empty shell of a man. I mean, it's a
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there's no not a shred of remorse, not a shred
of repentance or self awareness at all. So now you
do have Trump actually standing up to the Iranians. Now
that doesn't mean that he needs to. I am very
concerned with the idea of America committing any kind of
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military action in Iran. I just think that if they do, normally,
could it engross this country into a world war, but
it could end up resulting in the loss of American
lives because Iran will strike back. You have American bases
in Iraq and in Syria, You've got American ships off
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the coast in the Strait of Wamus. They're going to
be attacked and Americans will die. And to me, that
is not tolerable. I just don't think we should do
it for that reason. I think we can do everything,
but that.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
You can take out so much of their strategic capability,
and it.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Should have been done.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
I mean, no one ever explained why Obama gave one
point eight billion dollars in cash to Iran.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
It's yeah, I mean, and Biden releasing all those funds.
And you know, remember John Kerry their meeting with them
and playing foot see, you know, you have these people,
they just revere authoritarian regimes. I mean, you know, it's
just it's a very strange thing. It's just like in
the old days how the left was playing footsaet with
with the Chinese communists and with North Vietnam. You know,
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it's just this adoration of absolute power. I mean, you
can't get a more authoritarian system than Iran. I mean,
you know, women have to walk around with these telephone booths,
you know, they look out through these slits, you know,
and yet feminists are supportive. Yeah, I mean, you can't
get a more oppressive society.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I mean, larger issue is the left has always been
a bankrupt institution from day one. Right, And what you're
so funny about it in that sense is that.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
There's no descent from all their issues.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Right, if you're a leftist, you have to agree well
one hundred and fifty percent of all the official talking polls.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Although I will say answer to your second question that
when it comes to Israel, the Jews come together, even
the leftist Jews. Everybody gets solid, you know, so everybody
circles the wagons and they support Israel. Now, that might
have changed a little bit in recent years, where you
have these kafia wearing leftist campus Jews.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I mean even like okay, but what about these Norman
Ficlecy types.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, that's he's an outlier that's always been there too.
You have them in Israel too. I mean that's it's
a free country, it's a free society. So yeah, you've
got and you've got these ultra extremist, right wing, fanatical
religious Jews who are kissing up with the Malas. You know,
they're going in going into Iran. So that's a given.
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Those people don't matter. That's fringe. I'm talking about the
ninety eight percent of Jews on the left and the
right who consolidate in times of war. I remember when
the last time, when Israel was having a war, I
was at my synagogue, which is a liberal synagogue, and
standing there in the lobby was this guy that I
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happened to know who's a way out on the left,
handing out flyers to support Israel. And he said to me, hey,
we're all on the same side. Now, this is war.
So you know, when there's a war going on, I mean,
people tend to like coalesce.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It was interesting, I mean World War One in Europe,
there was all this thought that the socialists and the
left in Germany and in Britain they would not go
along and they would stop these wars because they were
seen as a nationalist, part of the nationalist movement. But
they didn't they got on board with Germany, they got
on board with Britain. They became patriotic to their own countries,
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and they put aside their leftism in times of war
and in times of crisis. Once the war's over, everybody
goes back to normal. So that's what's going on right
now with the American left Jewish left. They're on board
Israel's being attacked. They want to you know, they live
in Israel too. You know, they've got sons and daughters
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who are in the Israeli army. I mean, who's at
that leftist rabbi who ran to Kuno Lum, the ultra
leftist progressive atheist newspaper. His son was in the IDEF.
He's like, hey, I have skin in the game here.
You know, I'm not. I don't want to see Israel defeated. So,
you know, that's what's going on with the American Jewish
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left right now. Everyone is solid. There's concern. All of
a sudden, people are waking up and realizing that under
the Biden regime, twenty million undocumented people flooded into this country.
We don't know who they are. And if you're.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Okay, but it's funny how you put that. Now they're
waking up and seeing that.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, because now it's like now it's hitting home. Because
if we go to war and we attack Iran, you
don't know what Iran, what kind of trigger Iran is
gonna pull? You could all you know, suddenly you're can
have New York, you know, people getting bombed. So you know,
and that's just a fact, that's you know. I'm just
saying there could be major consequences if the United States
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gets involved. That doesn't mean we shouldn't get involved, but
if we do, we better do it with pretty open eyes.
And I would hope that if we do. And the
one thing that I think President Trump can be relied
on is that he really likes to win. He doesn't
want to be involved in a quagmire, you know, like
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the Iraq War, which was a disaster, or Afghanistan. If
he does it, there has to be some assurance that
you're going to go in, do the thing, and do
it heavy and then get the hell out and it's done,
you know, And because it was done so convincingly, so
under those circumstances, I say, let it, let it go.
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I mean, but you.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Knows what is you handle it correctly.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I mean, you can go back to World War Two.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
For God's sake, we didn't really win that.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
No, that's right. That was a quagmire, went on for
five years, and it costs one hundred thousand American lives.
So no, that's that's what I'm afraid of, I think.
But with Trump, it doesn't work that way. No, he
understands these this you know, this liberal establishment, perpetual war,
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A gender of people like I don't know, Lindsey Graham
comes to mind. You know, that's not the way Trump
wants to run it. You know, I think that he actually,
I believe, if he is who I think he is,
and if he is who he's always appeared to me
to be, He's not going to let that happen. He's
going to go in with a very precise campaign that's
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going to have a beginning, middle, and end. It'll happen,
and it'll be over. That's what That would be the
only condition by which I think the United States can
get involved.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I would agree, And he's the guy to do it
that way.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
You can look at all these other stupid conflicts that
will never resolved, Korea, Vietnam and so on, Right, because
it was this political establishment type approach. Nothing ever gets resolved,
and that's the whole purpose of big government. Nothing ever
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does get resolved, because if it does, then we're not
what you're gonna do with these agencies.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
You know, we don't need them anymore, just like the
USAID and all these other groups. You know, they've solved
the problem. That's part of what bureaucracy is all about.
I mean, that's they're perpetuating this enormous you know, authoritarian
agenda if you will, you know the Kings, you know,
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to use their phrase, I mean, which is a great
case of psychological projection.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Let me answer this. Why doesn't the average guy I
see it like this? Are they so imbued with this
quote patriotic nonsense that they just get all fired up
in the hoop law and don't see what's really going on?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I mean, I think it's everything has become so radiological.
But I think that I mean, in the case of Israel,
they do understand it because Israel can't afford to have
a war of attrition, so they have, you know, and
I hope they stick with this idea their philosophy since
day one in terms of dealing with their enemies has
been that we're going to find the specific people who
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are doing this to us, and we're going to stop them,
and we're going to do it in a pincrick and
it could take one hundred years to take a thousand years.
We're not going to you know, we're going to just
methodically go after them. And that seems to me what
they're doing in Iran. Now, sure they'd love to see
a regime change, why not, but we all would like
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to see that. But ultimately the goal simply is to
debilitate Iran's nuclear threat and missile threat, and that's the
job they're trying to do. They have to do it.
Beyond that, everything else is like, you know, extra, it's
sort of like found money, it's extra. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
But even within Israel, the founders Uriating Company, their approach
was let's hold hands and sing Kumbaya, and that didn't
work out too well.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
No, they suppressed the real you know, the people like
Began and the gun who actually wanted to but you know,
really take take sovereignty in Israel. And you know, I
think that in the case of the founders, the liberal
secular founders of Israel and the Jewish people in general,
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there's a ghetto mentality that has never left. It's kind
of like you're a guest in someone else's home. You know,
you're not the majority. You don't have any control over
the actual government, over the army, over the big institutions,
and so you have to kind of play second fiddle,
and you have to be nice, and you have to
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kind of play ball in order to get by. And
there's a certain compromise in that position. And I think
that ghetto mentality, as it were, has pervaded an Israel,
even though Israel has achieved sovereignty. You know, it's kind
of like the biblical aphorism, which is that it took
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forty years after liberation from Egypt of wandering in the
desert before the children of Israel were able to then
cross the river and go into the Promised Land because
they still had a slave mentality. It took a generation
or two to kind of let go of enough of that.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
So that's a good analogy, and it repeated itself with Amacabees,
right that they had to go to war against their
own people, right of the fate hearted ones.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah, it was a civil war exactly, and that even
happened at the founding of Israel when I mean Bagan
was heading up the ship with weaponry. They wanted to
blast their way to Jerusalem. They were going to go,
and they were met on the shore by left wing
Jewish forces who were firing at them and blues ship up.
One of the leaders of that force was Yitzhak Rabin.
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So I mean it's kind of like a civil war
going on there. And this was during the War of Independence,
at a time when you'd think that everybody would kind
of be you know, united in terms of fighting this enemy.
And they really only were partially successful in that they
did not push the Jordanians out of what they call
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now the West Bank. It's Judea and Samaria, and that
was a big mistake at the time. They could have
finished the job and and gained sovereignty for Israel. And so.
Speaker 4 (44:08):
There's a good historical analogy, unfortunately, with the Battle of
the plays of Abraham Wolf in Oncome. What Wolf should
have done just say, look, we've taken over. You're going
to speak English now.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
But he compromised and it was God he was he
was killed. So yeah, I mean, you know, people lose
their nerve. I don't know if it's you know, whatever
the mentality is, if you have a clear understanding of
your task and of your mission, you know you can
get it done. And it's taken Israel a long time
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to get there. But I think that then.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
Now there has to be a winner at s pot,
you know.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, And I think that obviously, I and I'm sure
many people are hoping and praying for the day when
these rotten Mulas are sent off to Russia or somewhere
in exile and that a more moderate government comes in.
Of course, the danger is that they might end up
with a government's even worse. I don't know, but that's
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not likely. I mean I think that, you know, when
you have such an oppressive regime collapse, it's it's usually
only for the better. And you know, I mean I
hope that happens. I mean, let the Malas go to
settle in Moscow or Basing or wherever.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Well, you know, and and there's a bad history there.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
The Mullas were heavily supported by the bricks right as
part of the politics they thought to achieve some oil deal.
So I mean there's a big corruption all the.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Way down, and mistakes have been made. I mean, the
United States made a mistake when Eisenhower listened to Winston Churchill,
who he looked up to as a father figure, and
he shouldn't have and Churchill who said that British petroleum
has just been nationalized by Musadeg in nineteen fifty four.
We have to stop this, we have to go in
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and take him out. And so Eisenhower went along with it.
And you had the CIA, working with MI five, go
in and foment a campaign against Mosadega and take him out.
And ever since then the Iranians had great resentment because
you had the Shower of Iran at the time, he
was a younger man, he was kind of a figurehead.
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He assumed dictatorial powers, and that created a situation which
eventually led to a radical revolution. Probably if Mosadega there
left in place, if he had nationalized their oil, which
he should have done anyway, would have been a powerful,
peaceful country. More likely, it was always sort of, you know,
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secular in the real progressive sense, you know, going even
back to before the Ottoman times, Iran was always it
was never on board with the kind of the darker
side of Islam. They were always one of the first
countries to have a constitution, in the.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
You mentioned Churchill because a rational discourse on Churchill could
list a tons.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
Oh he was a yeah, I mean there was, I
mean going back to the Boer Wars, where where the
British spent all that time defeeding the Dutch Boers and
putting them in concentration camps. You know, it's just it's
it's crazy. I mean the Dardan Nella's campaign, which.
Speaker 4 (47:50):
Was such a weird figure.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
You no, he's scoundrelous. I mean when you look at
the background, but he had that kind of influence. It's
interesting as a whole. I mean, Patrick Cannon wrote a
really good book about Rachel. I read it years ago.
I can't recall it now, but you know not, you know,
there's oftentimes you have these people who are held up
as reverential, almost like deities, and you look at who
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they actually were. I mean, Mahatma Gandhi is another one. Yeah.
Albert Einstein, what did he do? He stole most of
the thesis from his wife and then he divorces her
for a young woman. I mean, you know, not exactly
a sterling character anyway. You know, you just have to
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people like.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
To read this fasiful history But the lesson you need
to know about history is it deals with real people.
So once you create these satly individuals, the irony being
as a Catholic, I will tell you that saints were
not perfect. That's just not how the human experience. So
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you can go ahead and list the faults of people,
but somehow they have to set up these, if you will,
secular things, and you start looking into virtually any of
them and you don't like what you see.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
No, but I mean some of them, they're so vaunted
and sainted, and some of the stuff they were involved
in was so egregious. I mean, it's so we could
I mean Martin Luther King not to mention the name,
all right, I mean you know these people are propped
up as giants and it's sold Floyd. Well, there's I mean,
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that was a complete fabrication. Anyways. Yeah, I mean, the
totems is symbol, but.
Speaker 3 (49:47):
Everybody, everybody seems to go along with it.
Speaker 4 (49:50):
And of course the latest one is your good buddy
total Fauci.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Oh my god, the worst worse than Mangelar issue said
in your famous blow subsect.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
My most viewed article.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Yes, uh, and my only regret is I should have
been more harsh than I was.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
But the other one, I think I mentioned that he
spoke at this math, this Boston Speakers Group, which is
very left wing. Anybody who it was involved with the
twenty twenty elections deal was invited and he was charging
like thousands of dollars a ticket to see him, and
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he probably put it in his pocket. I mean, this
is disgusting anyway, It's I would have loved to that one.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
Yeah, I don't understand it, but people seem to want
to have some royalty figure, whether it's movie stars or
whatever the hell it is, and it's just this irrational
lifting up these individuals and they just don't want to
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know any of the any of the negative of.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Which Boston is particularly prone to this. You know, we
have this, we have this may of Michelle wou she
recently and then this sounds like this sounds like a
local issue, and I'm only bringing it up because it
typifies her entire approach. She's the city of Boston is
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rehabilitating what's called this White Stadium in Franklin Park. It's
an old stadium that had gone into decay, and the
budget for that was about five million dollars. Now it
turns out that somebody leaked out of the city Hall
that it's actually costing one hundred and seventy five million dollars, right, yeah, right,
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thank you. And her response to this was that to
bring this up is disrespect implication being. I mean, she's
playing the same card Obama played. If you criticized Obama,
it's because you are something against black people, so you
better shut up. She's implying because she's Asian, that you
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can't criticize her. And then she turns around and she
blames Trump. Why did she blame Trump? Because it was
the tariffs? You can I mention how idiotic that is.
I don't even think I don't even think liberals. I mean,
the Boston Globe isn't even touching it. Even liberals are
going to look at that, like, really, what is there
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a tarriffy on concrete? I mean, what the hell is
she talking about? Yea, And meanwhile, nobody's actually taking the
time to look at who's getting that money and and
why that's happened, and it's very corrupt. And but she's
one of these people that seems to coast by as
like this tootemic figure, you know, I mean it's just
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at Boston is particular vulnerable the left. We have this
congresswoman Ayana Presley talking about the Baal Chiraldi, Yeah, talking
about left wing. I mean, she and two other congress people,
Elon Omar and Isshida Talaib, voted to put a bill
before Congress to several all relations with Israel, cut off
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all aid to Israel, and have Israel declared the terrorist entity. Right,
it only got three votes in Congress, even yeah, those three,
even the liberal Democrats were like, no, thank you. But
yet she gets away with that. You know, she doesn't.
Nobody questions it.
Speaker 4 (53:38):
There is this thing that that goes on. And yeah,
now at this point, you have to be female, and
you have to be a minority, minority, you're above any criticism.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
But the good news is let's starting to wear out.
Speaker 2 (53:58):
I really hope enssage because this state. Recent statistics show
that the state is failing. The economy is sinking, the
population is sinking, The rents and the mortgages are going up.
The whole atmosphere is going down, I mean in every metric,
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and I think people are starting to feel it here
and that is going to make a difference. I don't
know if it's going to be enough to crack open
this rotten establishment. I know that Michelle Wu has a
pretty good opponent in Josh Kraft, as I mentioned. I
mean not that he's any great shakes, but yeah, at
least he's you know, he said when he's asked, are
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you going to support Trump? And he goes, I'll support
whatever works for Boston. I don't care if it's from
Trump or whoever. Yeah, it's something I like Trump. I
just want to do what's best for my city. I
think that's a pretty good answer. And I think that
plus he's the son of Bobcraft, the Patriots owner.
Speaker 3 (54:55):
Any Well, I mean you're seeing you're seeing in La.
Speaker 4 (54:59):
I mean, full disclosure, I don't live in La proper,
but you see this ridiculously incommon in Careen Mass, who.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
She's part of the terrorist group in the seventies had
actually put a bomb in the US Capitol building.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Yeah, she's a mass She only got where she did
because and this seems to be the qualifications. You don't
just have to be a black lesbian. You have to
be an ugly black lesbian. So now you're checking off
all the boxes.
Speaker 2 (55:38):
Although didn't she have to get rid of that one
and the one on the head of the fire right.
Speaker 4 (55:43):
Well, right, but that was a lesbian cat fight, so
it's funny, seriously, But now the LA Fire Department for
at least thirty years has been a joke with that
kind of stuff. We used to do a lot of
business with that agency.
Speaker 3 (56:03):
And I knew guys, white guys.
Speaker 4 (56:07):
Heterosexual who were stuck at the captain level for the
entire career. Right They they take the chiefs exam multiple times,
get high scores, but then some minority and especially if
you were homosexual, you.
Speaker 5 (56:28):
Get extra points, right, So they were just locked out
of these jobs. And based on the attrition, that's how
you get someone like the.
Speaker 4 (56:41):
Well, the recently fired chief engineer who was not competent,
but she checked off the boxes of being an angry lesbian.
Now she was white, so.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
He checked off enough of them. And the only.
Speaker 3 (56:58):
Times today consulated the life.
Speaker 4 (57:02):
And this is where, because I know the inside dope
on this, the celebrated first LA Fire Department captain who
was transgender. All right, So for those keeping score at home,
the fact that she was only able to get up
to captain means she had to be really incumbent with
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all those you know, plus points code for her. I mean,
the average person didn't realize that, but I'm telling you
I could see it deteriorate. Now.
Speaker 2 (57:40):
I'm not saying that this is true. I'm saying that
my information on this is from a person that I trust,
who's a liberal, but who told me that the US
the Pentagon is getting rid of all of the transgender offices.
And she told me that this is a mistake because
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these transgender offices, for whatever reason, happened to be very
good at technical computer things, and that they're actually very conservative.
They tend to be right wing even though they're transgendered,
and that to do this is not a good idea.
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I don't know if that's true or not, but it's.
Speaker 4 (58:28):
To me, it sounds too bad. Yeah, I don't know
how you can make that statement.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
I don't know. At the same time, if they asked
that good at what they're doing and they happen to
be transgender, I don't know if I care that much.
I want to have somebody in there who's competent and
who can do it, especially in these times when the
you know, the Defense Department is dealing with some real crisis.
(58:59):
I mean, you know, if they just get rid of them,
they all have to leave by a certain date. Do
they have people that are going to step up and
be able to replace them that quickly? I mean, I
mean from this point of view, yeah, they.
Speaker 4 (59:13):
Need well security risks.
Speaker 2 (59:18):
You know, out of the closet. It's not like the
old days when somebody could be blackmailed. I mean, they
are transgendered and openly so, so I don't think it's
a security risk.
Speaker 3 (59:32):
I we have a hard time believing they got the
job based on merit alone. I know.
Speaker 2 (59:41):
Yeah, I'm just tossing this out there because you know,
I hear all points of view, and yeah, this was
brought home to me, as I said, by somebody who
I'm close to and who asked me what I thought
of this, So I don't know. My answer is I
don't know, but I want the best in.
Speaker 4 (59:59):
The mid I would, yeah, I would say this that
if you're transgender, there's a pretty good chance you get
some mental issues.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
And well, yeah, but I mean if they're very good
at a particular function, I don't really care, you know,
I mean that's personal. Yes, I mean the defensive problem
says it's costing US fifty eight million dollars on surgeries
and on psychiatric care. I mean that's bad, maybe, you know,
I mean, but then on the other hand, this person
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totally heals me. People joined the military for a lot
of reasons where they get benefits. That's nothing new, So
I don't know, it's complicated.
Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Well, that sort of harkens back to you may remember
a movie from a long time ago, fifty years ago
actually called The Eiger saying shit, Clint Eastwood, now you
had to do with he was a higher killer for
the government. But the point was that here's contact at
this age that was ordering these sanctions or.
Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Hiss was some comical figure who.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Had some ridiculous medical condition where he had to have
transfusions all the time and had to live in the dark.
And he was an ex Nazi, all right, but.
Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Somehow he was so great right that we had.
Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
To do this.
Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
So forgive me if I'm a little skeptical with this.
Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I mean I saw a scene with Clint east were
doing I mean sometimes on TikTok they you look at
the little scenes where he's a detective and they just
put this woman in charge. This is during the early
times of women were just coming hearing movies. Yeah, and
he's like, and your background, have you ever shot a gun?
Have you?
Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Have you ever been a patrol person? No? You know,
he asked her a bunch of questions and here you are,
you know, telling me, and and here you are, like,
you know, what is exactly is going on here? What
are your qualifications? And it's a great scene. I mean
he really lays it out. It's like, really, and this
is a situation where we're putting our lives on the line,
(01:02:15):
and you're sitting here in some office dressed all pretty
and looking like some you know, it's like, what the hell? Anyway, Well,
you're checking out boxes, right.
Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I think that this argument that you heard from your
friend and maybe you want to sort of these after
the fat things that okay, you put these trainees in
to whatever job and you find well, this guy is
good at soul and so okay. But is that because
he's transgender or did you.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Share a lot of them. I'm sure you've seen the
pictures of them at very high levels, you know, like generals,
and you see these guys wearing skirts and they have
you know, the fruit salad on their st peals and
they're like, I mean it's and there's not and there's
more than a couple like.
Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
That disheartening and it's not worth it and it gives
a bad impression.
Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
So I generally it's like it's it's.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
The same argument with boys and girls sports. All right,
Well that one speak as a transgender will create a
transgender league for you?
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Uh well yeah, I mean that one is more obvious.
I mean you have people the girls are getting hurt.
I mean that's you know, I mean it's ridiculous. As
team where was it? Well, they put this guy up
there and they won all the awards. They didn't care,
they just wanted to win. It's like having a ringer,
you know, it's a except this is a guy. I mean,
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it's totally unfair obviously, and there was a lot of
controversy around it. I hope that that's that fad is
something that it's it's insane and it's.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Here's the problem.
Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
I was aware of this. Well, first of all, the
transgender thing was an outgrowth, unfortunately of lesbians dominating moment schools.
Let's be honest, that's where people all right, So.
Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
But why would lesbians want them?
Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Because they feel joined at the hip with this sort
of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I mean that must come out against it. I mean, right,
I get it.
Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Okay, all right, So this had been going on for
a long long time to the point now that you
have the ridiculous situation of the w n b A,
which is completely subsidized by the NBA, has not made
money ever in forty years, right, because nobody, let's be honest,
(01:05:06):
wants to watch lesbian summer camp. Now, when they got
Caitlyn Clark in there, the viewership went up, all right,
So what did they do? All the rest of the women.
Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Attack her young? Yeah, she's a straight girl. She's good looking,
she's smart, she's everything they despise. Yeah, and the.
Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
League is never going to make money because nobody wants
to watch it.
Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
And this is now how it got out of hand.
Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
This is now how you have these generals in dresses,
as you say, wearing all the metals and so on.
It's always the same thing. They always start off. We
just want to be accepted, and then it escalates. So
you just have to not allow.
Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
It because you see, I'm sure you've seen a couple
of clips of this, but you see congressional hearings with
Pete Hegseth. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I have
mixed feelings about Pete Hegseth. But the women, the left
wing women absolutely go out of their minds at his
(01:06:23):
mere presence. Their hands explode, the Elizabeth Warren, I mean,
you know, they become red as a beat. I mean,
they just something about him that sets them. They triggers
them like crazy. And I'm trying to think about what
exactly is that.
Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
That what it is that he's actually a real.
Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Man, That's what I suspect.
Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Dealing with these young died individuals right now.
Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
They're going to berserk over him and they're losing their minds,
and he's there very cool. You know, he's like, you know,
answering and then they asked yes or no, you know,
this kind of stuff, and he goes in and he
does his thing. He's gotten much better, you know, he's
really improved. I think he's growing with the job. But
they absolutely have a meltdown.
Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Well, he's kept his school pretty well. I mean one
of them would drive me crazy. If I were being
questioned and I heard these nies saying.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Clean ky tie clet by tie Clen, I would just
mock him.
Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
I know, I can't imagine how cool he's been under
these and this shrill quality. I mean, it's it's holy,
and it's really him because other people it's not like that.
There's something about him that drives them. Absolutely, it triggers him.
Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Because this is the old Hillary Clinton idea.
Speaker 6 (01:07:46):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
She was able to become the valedictorian.
Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
At Wellesley, right.
Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Because she just had a big, bad attitude and all
gilded professor, gilded professors there were afraid to talk back.
People never realized the only accomplishment she ever did in
her entire life was marrying Bill Killton.
Speaker 7 (01:08:12):
Right, That's it. That's her whole resume, all right. What
is she ever accomplished? Not a goddamn thing. She's gotten
a bunch of big titles, all right. So now on
a lower level, you got a Liz Warren. What did
she ever do?
Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
She lied and complained she was an Indian, So she
got all these affirmative action jobs. Going from Rutgers Law
School somehow to Harvard. That's a big jump.
Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Right, where she is listed as as in the Woman
of Color directory and where she actually had a recipe
in the Pow Wow cookbook.
Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Coming in but instead of being some bureaucrat or you're
my favorite guy, Robert.
Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
McNamara, all right, yeah, how you have a.
Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Guy who's actually been a war fighter.
Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
They don't like it because he's a real guy, all right,
and their heads just explode, and it's fun to watch
all these liberal women have to be angry all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I've seen it in my own life, and I know,
you know, it's a you know, it's the Karenization of women.
And it all kind of came out in the open
during COVID they call it. Completely embraced the whole lifestyle
of COVID lockdown to an extreme degree, and since then
(01:09:50):
it's been on display anyway. So I just hope and
pray that this Israel Iran thing ends quickly and decisively.
Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
I think it will. Yeah, because you got the right
guy as the president, I agree.
Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
And there's not a whole lot of sympathy for Iran.
Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Okay, well yeah, but there's also help from China, North Korea, Russia.
I'm just saying, until.
Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
To use the expression that you hate, they realize they
don't want to be on the wrong side of history,
and they'll drop I ran so fast.
Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Make your heads I think you know there is a
psychological element to it, and that if Iran appears to
be losing, then oh yeah, you know. But the point
is that they're not there yet. I mean there's still
you know, they're not going away so quickly. And these
people are very tough and they they don't care about
(01:10:54):
life so much. You know, they can endure terrible hardship
to some I'll tell.
Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
You what it left of arc. Okay, the second in
command guy to Kamani.
Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
He was killed and then he was replaced at four
days later that guy was killed.
Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Right, so just keep replacing them. It's like coming up
out of the ground. You know that game when you
hit the head and another one pops out at the
amusement park. I forgot what it was called. Whack them
all exactly. Another one's gonna pop out of a hole.
And they're just tough as hell. I mean, they're resilient.
They believe that if they're killed, they get seventy virgins
(01:11:35):
in heaven. I mean, you know they're not gonna they
don't care. It's worrisome. I mean, this is a radical
ideology and faith. I'm not saying that all Muslims believe this,
but a radical element does and yet at the same time,
it was very heartening to see how fast bashar Asad collapsed.
Nobody thought that would happen all of a sudden. It
(01:11:58):
looks like as much. Yeah, I mean, a couple of
people moved in from.
Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
One sell as a aside, would you really want to
deal with seventy virgins?
Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
I mean, what's the attraction?
Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Explained it to me exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
It's like the joke of this man goes to his
priests and he says, I have this great desire to
live forever, and the priest says, well, then go out
and get married. That's why, Well, I live forever if
I get married. No, but you'll lose the desire anyways.
But on that note, what's happening on the sub stack.
Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Well, we took a little break, you know, we've been
kind of busy with with some stuff. Uh. And I
hope to I hope to get I've got I've got
a couple of more ideas for some pieces, and it's
going to be here's here's the sleek preview attacking journalists.
(01:12:59):
I mean it just I think the basic problem of
journalism is that it self selects. Okay, you cannot get
leftist out of it because that's the only person that
wants to be it.
Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
You know, it's like looking for a straight interior designer.
Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
They there, all right, exactly. It's sort of like it's
like Greeks going into the business of pizza parlors. I
don't know, it's like or having a white guy in
a as a waiter in a Chinese restaurant. Yeah, I mean,
it just it seems what they do.
Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
And and if you the only times, you know, with these.
Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
Riots and attacks on Ice, the writing has been so
absurd it's becomes amusing. A couple of dodgers don't rise
up and attack Ice because there's all these immigrants and
they're you know, conflating legal and illegal. It's and then
(01:14:06):
someone was comparing Judete to the fight against the Ice raids.
Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
It's not working for them. I mean, there was just
a poll taken which a very big pole with a
huge sampling showing that the majority of Americans still support deportation,
and and that the deportation is happening naturally, people are leaving,
you know, by the I don't know what the numbers are,
but you know, you know, and I think you made
(01:14:36):
the point to me quite well that deporting like that
that woman at Tufts, it does set an example, that
of a chilling example that basically leads to people leaving
or you know, they realize, you know that that this
is there not there playing ball here. This is tough.
I mean they're going to go and I.
Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
At the vot to the University of Michigan. But the
Chinese researchers that brought in fowhazards. Yes, now the universities
have failed so dramatically.
Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
And it's well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
One of my customers said that a whole part of
their business has slowed down.
Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
Because it's all based on research grants from academia, right,
And I said, look, I wrote an article a number
of years ago analyzing NIH grants, looking at the very
top money and the little grants, and it was astonishing
(01:15:47):
how useless.
Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
And gone off the rails. I mean, you know that's
I mean, I had this talk with someone who's telling
me this is oh we're going to this country is
going to go downhill because they're not investing in science.
Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
You know, it's like, you know, these are people who
love regulation and they love big government. How about regulating
some of these grants. How about what which is what
they're doing? How about a deep dive into exactly who's
getting this money and what it's funding. That's all this is.
They're gonna type, They're gonna take excess and corruption and
really bad I mean, you know, sticking marbles up the
(01:16:22):
backsides of cats. I mean that was ten million dollars.
You know, they're going to stop this. This is you know,
it's it's wasteful, it's it's corrupt and and you know,
but what they do is like Harvard will come out, oh,
we're going to have to cut and they list a
couple of programs they have good programs, when that's a
bunch of bull crap, because they they could cut a
(01:16:43):
couple of bad you know, they're like, it's kind of
like an a tactic, and I don't think it's working
for them. Everyone sees through that. Yeah, go to the
well too.
Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
Many times anyway. I hope they have something up there. Goodness.
It's uh, what can I say.
Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
I guess I'm glad.
Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
I'm busy with other stuff. But if I and this
is why I don't charge for the substant because if
I did, I'd have to write something all.
Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
The time and it comes it becomes a gig.
Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
You know. Yeah, he couldn't take the pressure. And I mean,
how much money you going to make on it? Anywhere?
Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
Charge somebody what five dollars a monfe No?
Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
I mean describers people people who make money, and I
think it's great. They already have like a big following
and they can you know, like I know, Dan rather
comes to mind. He makes money from his subset because
that's his main outlet. So he's got an audience.
Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
The boy explained it for him in a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I mean for better or for worse in his case worse.
But nevertheless, you know he's that's who makes money on substack.
Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
So what about you?
Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
You got a new book.
Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
What's going on.
Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
With My book is social theory, and I'm using papers
I'm writing in my classes at ASU where I'm getting
it agree in sociology and it's all right now. My
class is social theories, modern social theories. Michael Foucout is interesting,
but every one of them is a left wing Marxist theory.
(01:18:14):
Now I have to do queer theory. I mean, I
was hoping to avoid that one, but I can see
that it's a big part of social theory today and socialism.
So I'll have to how you do it?
Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
I mean, how do you hold your nose.
Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
I'll do a chapter on it, but it's not going
to be a nice chapter. It'll be a critical chapter.
I'll use critical race theory, except it'll be critical conservative
theory anyway. So i'll talk to you next week and
keep it on. God bless America, May Israel be say
safe and take care all right,