Episode 7 - The Seventh Episode - Chat Suey / Criminal AF

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Oh yeah, it's a good tone setterfor the episode.
Imagine living in the 70s as an adult.

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There's I wouldn't survive. Just just freely doing blowing
lines off the fucking table and then recycling.
Yeah. Put on your your best shoulder
pads, dude. Yeah.
My platform boots just letting. Cigarettes in the air, yeah.

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Oh yeah, I bet you he was slammed back then, Five head and
all. Let.
You know. He does got a pretty.
Big. It ain't just my forehead that's
big. It was a wild time though.
But yeah, just thinking about how big the bushes are you?

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Upset that you missed? The 70s.
Are you happy that you grew up in the 80s?
I don't know, I kind of. Like the 70s, seems like I.
Would dig the 70s Montice all the pubic hair.
The bushes everywhere. It looks like.

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The Power Rangers. What's good, all you criminals
out there. And welcome back to the birthday

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edition of Chat Suey. I am Dave Jarry.
I'm Gary Corder. And I'm Casey Moore.
With a new camera. And thank you all for joining us
today. Before we jump into all the
debauchery, let's go over a couple of things regarding chat
Suey. What do we do here?
We have conversations about anything, everything and how I

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may or may not have won the KILTcontest at the Run Fair.
Maybe we'll discuss. Oftentimes these conversations
will include the word fuck several times throughout the
episode. There will be vulgarity and
adult content. Of the sexual nature.
The sexual nature. If any of this offends you then

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send us your mail call questionsas well as your confessions.

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Confessions. Oh man.
So what do we got? So we got the last episode we
had the the ransom video. We I guess it was.
No, it was. Yeah, yeah, we did the yes, yes,
yes, yes. It's it's hard to keep track of
all the stuff. Like that, you know,
everything's kind of blurring together.

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There's like a delay sometimes. It's funny how fast we move on.
I don't even I haven't even thought about Father and.
Jury in a while I. Don't know, you know, whatever,
but someone's going on. You know someone's going on,
right? Yeah, yeah, we're about to go to
World. War three who cares about?
Father and jury, it's. A little bit of a hiatus, yeah,
we we skipped last week for certain reasons, but.

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But I went to Florida. Well, Florida, so hang on a
second. Don't, don't, don't go into that
too much 'cause we have some mail call questions.
Oh, oh, OK. But sorry, I bet.
We do for Father Ojari. Somebody did send in.
If I can pull it up, somebody did send in a a sighting of
Father Ojari. Oh.
Shit, so OK. Yeah, but didn't we like some of
these? Seemed like it wasn't him.

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So we may have forgotten about Father Ojari, but the audience?
They still. They are still in it.
They're still in it, and they want to know what's going on.
And so Buffy F. Oh, Buffy, OK.
Buffy F sent in a sighting they said.
Just wanted to let you all know that Father Ojari was seen in
Christiana, Christina, Tennesseewith Ed and Zebra.

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Ed oh Ed to Zebra. They were seen with Ed to Zebra.
I was like what kind of name is?Zebra.
Yeah, Ed Zebra. Yep, Ed recently went missing as
well. I didn't hear about that, Yeah.
I didn't. I know nothing about.
This. Wait, am I?
Am I? Who's Ed?
The zebra? Yeah.
Who's Zebra? I don't know who had the zebra
is he's throw. It up, Throw it up.
Throw it up, throw it up. On the screen did Ed the zebra

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tell zebra from my a zoo or something?
Oh. That was the OK.
I know, I know, I know, I know what that's.
Well, for the people at home, not right.
At the Zebra. Yeah, at the Zebra.
Let's see what. Was a missing zebra that got out
from the zoo. Zebra.
And they carried his ass in a helicopter.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I yeah, I did see this.
OK, let's see if I can actually.Well, see if see if Father
Ojari's in the news report here.Maybe.
Maybe he's in the background somewhere.
Maybe he's the one flying the helicopter that carried him back
to this. Is he that multi?
Time I don't. Know dude, you don't know.
Too. He's he's must be living a
fucking alternate life that we don't know about.

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So crazy we. We just we need better Internet
down here you. Have criminal AF oh.
Jesus Christ, and I want now it's opening up Facebook.
Make sure you're on. I am on the the right thing,
criminal need a leash. This is this was just a
spontaneous thing. It was it sounded like Ed.

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You know, Jamie, Jamie is good with it.
You know whenever Joe wants wants something pulled up, Jamie
Jamie's got it right there. The.
Good thing about listen, the good thing about Joe is he keeps
the conversation going while theproducers trying to find.
Great. Well, we are.
We're we're talking. I I I don't know much about Ed.
I know we only have, so we only have so much to talk about.
While we're you know, also they probably don't have ads running

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through their their but here I'll I'll I'll kill my view and
give you guys this all. Right here we go.
Oh, Yep, Here's Ed. Here's Ed.
Brett has finally been. Captured.
Dude. Yeah, into a friendly.
Could you fucking up? 9 days.
That zebras probably spaz of the.
Ed turned out to be galloping along a Rd.

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So majestic. On him too.
Going so fast he almost faced. Oh.
Shit, be careful Ed. Who's?
Four years old was bought by Taylor and Laura Ford.
All these rich fucking that's white people energy dude.
Rutherford County, Tennessee, OH.
It's been a journey to say the least.
How did the zebra? We're not.
We'll leave it there. Yeah, All right.

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I don't know. We're buys a zebra dude stop
trying so hard Jesus. You know, you cut it off right
there, but they're like, how didEd get out?
I mean. It wasn't a zoo, it was a
private fucking. It could have been father of
Jory. Actually, I've done some
shenanigans. The camera went to.
A different 10 hey it. Went way to the.
Porn shot. So yeah, Father Ojai, what's

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going on right now? What's happening?
Just keep going, I'll fix. It Father Ojai could have opened
the gate. Yeah.
Father Ojari, we miss you. He's up to some Shenani.
We, we want you back, yeah. All right.
Is that working? I know it's a nice thing to say,
but. All right, the technical

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difficulties, so. While we're figuring out the
camera. So anyway, I'll just keep
reading this. Yeah, so.
So now do we know Ed the Zebra? They did, they said.
Just look him up online. They did catch Ed, but Father
Joey made a quick escape with both of them wearing black and
white. They didn't know.
Appreciate the fucking love it, love it.

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That's great. With both of them wearing black
and white, they didn't know theydidn't have both of them in the
helicopter until it was too late.
Yeah, it makes. Sense it makes all the same.
Sense, yeah. Yeah, You know, they were so
high up in the air, you know, you don't know if you got both
of them. Buffy that is fucking.
Amazing that. Was good, that was Oh, that's
hilarious. Keep the keep the Father Ojari

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sightings. Oh.
That's so fucking great. Thank you so much, Buffy.
Well, at least we know that he'sin Tennessee.
Yep. Yeah.
So that's that's, that's good. Yeah, Yeah.
It's kind of confirmed. Yeah.
So. So, well, hopefully we'll hear
more from him or yeah, he'll call up, I think.
Father, sorry, wanted to go to like smokies, the old Smokies

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like you. You want to do a little white
trash vacation? Yeah, maybe they're a Pigeon
Forge hit A. Little Pigeon Forge, but
Dollywood or whatever. Yeah.
Yeah, because the last we heard from him was we were supposed to
send a ransom, right of either 1000 or 1,000,000.
Well, maybe that's why he neededthe money 'cause he had to do
all the the white trash vacation, you know?

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I don't think it cost that much to go to Pigeon Forge.
Well, they do have the the True Crime Museum.
I know. They got Ted Bundy's Volkswagen
Beetle there. Back when we were doing Criminal
Laugh, we always thought we'd said we were going to do a live
log that's right. When we drive down there, which,
which is still possible, I wouldn't mind going.
I would. Yeah, I'm doing for the.
Road trip. Well, now that I'm a world
traveler, Oh. God.

(10:20):
Well, hang on, there's I You still can't.
Talk about that. I'm not gonna talk about this,
but this. Guy goes on one plane ride.
He's a world traveler. Shut up.
I I wouldn't mind going to Tennessee.
Tennessee. I'm just, I'm just throwing it
out there. Yeah.
We could fly there. I'm sure it's cheap, yeah.
Yeah, but a road trip would be fun, yeah.
All right, ready for this confession?
Yes. What is the confession?
So this guy, he writes. So a few years ago I went to the

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doctor because I was worried about my size because I was
having a hard time having sex due to it being so small.
What? I mean it works, I have two kids
but it falls out a lot during sex and I can't get any really
good strokes going. I found out that I have a

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condition called micro phallus or better known as micro penis.
My doctor he posted about it in a medical journal and a
journalist contacted me and met me and did a story about how I
could possibly have the world's smallest penis.
You can look up my name to verify my story, just Google

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Garrett Porter. I didn't have a confession, so I
just made this one. So let's discuss about this
Garrett. Honestly, yeah.

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If this was a real good. You can't get the long.
Stroke if if this if this was anactual confession and an actual
person instead of there's there's no way that you wouldn't
know you had a micro penis. So like, I don't know what's.
Going on, it doesn't. I don't know why my pinky is
bigger than my penis. Yeah.
There's just no way that that's why I was thinking.
I was literally thinking before you said my name.

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I was like, how does this guy not know that he has a micro?
Penis. Oh my God, do.
You do. You go on the Internet, do.
You do these. Like you're like something's
wrong. Yeah, I think, I think by the
time you're out of high school. You.
Should probably know that your penis is not.

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Dude in in today. Then you know. 4th grade When
did when did you when did you watch your first porn video?
Well, considering, oh, you're wedidn't have the international,
yeah, we actually had fucking VHS tape and stuff.
But I will say it was probably like I I saw magazines
relatively young, like middle school.

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Like Playboys and. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Penthouse and.
Penthouse. Well, Penthouse is more hardcore
than Playboys, Yeah. Oh, I didn't.
Know my friend's parent, dad hada bunch of penthouse and all
that kind of shit, but I'd probably stay hanging out.
With your dad's Penthouse magazines in the.
Basement probably 7th grade. I probably saw my first VHS

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porno. It's 4th grade.
Fourth. Yeah, Yep.
Nice it. Would take an hour from the AOL
thing to. Like.
You get. You get half of the.
Page And then by the time you got to the tits, there were *
there were stars over maybe. And then you go to the next he.
Was wasted 1/2 hour of your life.

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Sister picks up the phone and kicks you off.
You know God. Damn it.
Hang up the phone. Yeah.
So yeah, you pretty much have a good idea that you're probably
not. Something's wrong.
Up the snuff at a young age. Yeah, I agree with him.
Yeah, I didn't have anything fora confession, so I just, I'm
like, you know what? Whatever.
Like it. Yeah.

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I like it. So you don't, you don't want,
you don't have anything to unpack.
It's a condition. Don't make fun of my condition.
You don't have anything to unpack.
You don't want discuss anything.No, I just, I'm just, that's a
condition. It's not funny.
Everything's open. You're.
Supposed to keep medical recordsconcealed.
I would I tell you in fucking secrecy.
Doesn't need to all come out on the podcast, Dave.
God damn it dude. Fucking piece of shit.

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I'm about to storm off. Gonna crash out I just spit
water all over me and now my glasses got water bubbles on it
anyway yeah I'll make. Fun of you 'cause you can't see
dude fucking Dick. At least I can see my penis.
All right, I'd probably make the.
I'd make the best of it if I. Had a fucking area.

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I'd make the best of it. I'd see.
Mail call. Talking about me a little gets a
little too excited. I'm a wet.
Just water my fucking crotch. I think if I did have a micro
penis, I would make the best of it.
Yeah, yeah. Toys.
What you you got to spice it up at?
That. Well, yeah, I mean like you.
Can still keep a woman happy with a micro.

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Penis, right? It would just be a lot of work.
Yeah, yeah. And you're.
Just gonna. You're basically a stud at that
point. Right.
Yeah, right. There was someone I.
Oh, that's got to be so emasculating when you.
Know she's like she's. Just like, yeah, oh Spartan.

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It's like the the little salt. The salt and pepper shakers.
Casey's like, it's like the little salt, you know?
When you go to a table. At like a restaurant and they
have the little salt and you're like what the fuck?
You got 2 fingers trying to season your food.
Oh man. I did have a friend who
confirmed no I didn't have a micropenic but he was he was A2

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pump chump. Oh, Primo, yeah.
Yeah. And you know, it's, it's a lot
of that's like mind over matter,you know what I mean?
But. You gotta the you gotta.
You gotta increase your stamina.You gotta find.
Well, yeah, you gotta find otherways to satisfy your.
Your, I don't know, I think you can train that out of yourself.
You can't just be you. Well, I'm just saying.
A lot of that comes from when you're younger and you start

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fooling around in self masturbation.
Yeah. You, you, you just try to rub it
out real fast and over years andyears and years of doing that it
you're, you just gotta like. Yeah, well, that's why I say
like porn is like hurting relationships 'cause that's
another Part 1, you're getting afalse sense of what sex actually
is and two, you're fucking rubbing it out in like 32.

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Seconds 'cause you go right to your favorite spot and then you
just queue it up. Queue it up.
All right. So that'll do it for this
segment of confessions, yes. Father O'dary, we miss you all
right. All right.
I'd like to see his take. What's his search?
What's his search history like? Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Do doom. I don't know.
We might find out one day. Mail call.
Mail call. All right, You know the rules
for mail call. You send in your questions and
we answer them honestly and truthfully.
No secrets allowed. Could be anything you want to
ask. Rapid fire questions, Personal
questions. What's our deepest darkest,
darkest thoughts? Casey's hopes and dreams.

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Why did you just lag right there?
'Cause I missed the word, Yeah. And whatever you want to ask us,
nothing is is off limits. So, Casey, Yeah.
Yeah, I'm never going to get used to this new camera thing
that I got going on. OK.
All right. Yeah, we'll get it.
What do we got? We got for questions.

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Let's see, where do I put these?All right, what?
Nothing. I ever already knows, right?
I have a runny nose. All right, OK.
I love taking time off from work, but I am not much of A
traveller. OK, I prefer to stay in your
home, but I love watching and hearing about other people's

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adventures and seeing the world through their eyes.
So now that it's summer and vacation season is here, I'm
curious if any of you guys are have any trips planned this year
or are just a hermit like me do.You have anything planned?
Thank you. You do?
Yeah. OK.
We're doing upstate New York. In Lake George.
July, no, Thousand Islands, I think it's called.

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It's up past Syracuse. Thousand Islands, four days, I
think it's what it's called, Thousand Islands.
I don't know. My wife has a whole bunch of
family up there. And then San Diego in August.
Nice. San Diego.
San Diego. Good old San Diego.
We do have listeners from San Diego.
San Diego's nice. San Diego, I'm excited.

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I've never been there. Yeah, I do wanna go.
Spending a week I wanna go Airbnb right on the beach.
It's gonna be beautiful, just the four of you.
No her all, her family. Oh, OK, nice.
Wanna visit family? Yeah.
So as we touched on a little bitearlier, I am a world traveler
now like and one of my first flight ever to Florida went down

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to Saint Augustine, spent a few days down there, wasn't as scary
as I thought it would be, you know, for right for 50.
Saint Augustine. I cannot.
Be Saint Augustine wasn't as I mean it was petrified.
It is considered the most haunted city in the United
States. Really.
Yeah, Saint Augustine. It's the oldest city over like.

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Yeah, yeah, over. Like New York, I.
Just feel like Connecticut has that.
Connecticut has a lot of that. Yeah, yeah.
But. Or like Salem, MA.
Well, Saint Augustine is the oldest still.
Like, whatever. Like, never went anywhere.
What? What am I looking for?
Continuous. Sure.

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Yeah. City in the United States.
We're smart here. Older than Jamestown in
Virginia. That's insane to me that.
Older than Plymouth. Well, yeah, it wasn't occupied
by us. Oh is that goes like the.
Spaniards or whatever. Yeah.
So it was like early 1500s I believe is.
That where the fountain of youthis.

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It is the fountain of youth. Yeah, it's Ponce de Leon.
You know what's funny too is like when you see like a place
like Saint Augustine, it looks still like a normal town and
then every other spot in Floridaoutside is just industrial like
suburbs. Just.
All the same house all the way down like.
Just mass. Produced buildings.

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Yeah, and they Saint Augustine, they they, they did it.
They did right by their history,you know what I mean?
Yeah, they didn't sugarcoat their history because Saint
Augustine, especially the the Castillo de San Marcos, the Fort
is the oldest standing Fort in the United States.

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It has a pretty, pretty tragic history in, in itself where not
only was it used for self-defense of, of our, you
know, country or whatever, it also imprisoned indigenous and
African people. And they don't hide from that,
you know, which is, which is good because a lot of people's

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history, when it's dark and evil, they, they try to shine
the light look. Over here.
Look over here. Yeah, there's cannonballs.
Cannonballs. Look at the old cannon, look at
don't look at the shackles on the fucking wall.
Look at that over there. Don't look at the mass grave.
Don't worry about. That yeah.
But I did learn. I posted anybody who follows me
on Facebook. I did post parts of my trip.
Yeah, I felt like I was on your trip.
Yeah, and although the Spaniardsweren't great.

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I mean, arguably one of the worst, but OK.
They weren't great. They did make a a decent attempt
of cohabitating with the indigenous.
Like they all worked together, they lived together, they did
what they could. Now granted a lot of disease and
everything wiped out half the population, but for the most

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part they weren't complete fucking assholes.
I always wonder what some of those like Caribbean islands,
what language they would speak if Spain didn't just.
Annihilate. Annihilate the entire entire
region of the world? Like would it be?
Well, they would have native language.
Well, though I know like that Aztecs would be still be the
Aztecs at the point, you know what I mean?

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Like most of South America wouldstill be, whatever that.
Mm, hmm. Mm hmm.
Aztecian. Well, how do I don't even know?
I'm not smart. Whatever.
It. Is but I'm just, I'm just like
those random islands that didn'thave Oh yeah.
And have like they were basically like Native Americans
at that point. I wish they were still around so
that when someone asked, hey where are you from?
What are you? I'm Aztecian.
Yeah, Aztecian. It flows.

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I don't care. It works.
Is it was it? Would it be?
What is it I? Don't know Aztecs.
Yeah. As.
Yeah. But what was the plural?
What was the plural version of that be Aztecs?
Yes, wouldn't. Be Aztecs, yeah.
Like, you know, how we're Connecticut could whatever.
I don't even know. Kineticians.

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Kinetic. Kinetic.
No, there there is a work, thereis a no, there's a kinetic.
It's kinetic kites. Is it Connecticut?
It's kind of can I? What can?
I I've heard it before. I just.
Can't. Yeah, it's weird.
Yeah, it's weird. It's not what you what you would
think it would be. That's why I went.
That's why I instantly went. I was techian.
Yeah, it seems like it worked. So.

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I would love to see like Nat Geobe like, Oh yeah, we just dug up
this artifact and then and there's like a, a scroll where
it says like whereas Aztecian. No, it's written in Aztecian and
Garrett's. Like, I fucking told you.
I told you. I told you.
Who made fun of me? Oh man.
Oh yeah. So did you have fun?

(23:44):
Yeah, no, it was great, Great city.
I still don't understand how a man who just turned 51.
By the way, happy birthday. Thank you yesterday.
Just went on his first plane ride.
Well, here's the thing. What?
What that way we should we not plug any airlines?
Breeze. You went breeze.
You went Breeze. Breeze.
Was it a breeze? It was a breeze.
It was a breeze. It was a breeze.

(24:05):
I will say this breeze is betterthan.
What did they for sure? How about that airplane food?
I just had. I just had a snack.
You just had a snack where they serve peanuts.
Actually, there there was, therewas a choice.
Oh yeah, there was probably 7 or8 choices.
They walk around with a big the tray.
You know? Got your snacks here?
Snacks here Snacks here Do you want a?

(24:27):
Soda, you know, like one of those big fucking vendor things
and they're like snack and I'm like, thank you.
This guy thought he was high society flying right there with
his. Fucking peanuts in his.
In his coke Breeze. I mean it's not quite first
class, but breeze does have a section of the plane I I think
it's called the. The extended leopard.

(24:48):
Yeah, like. Groom section, I don't know.
It's it's it's there's a name for it.
Allure or assure or I don't know, it's it's something.
Yeah, the upgraded seats. Yeah, the comfy.
Yeah, you get the captain's chair, you get your own little
fucking space. You get plugins on your seats
instead. Give you the little plastic
wings. They give you, Yeah.
No, remember they used to do that.
Yeah, I was a kid when. Oh, Casey was definitely the kid

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that wanted to go see the cockpit when he was.
Younger. Who wouldn't wanna see that?
Can I see I actually was sitting?
I was sitting where I was. I could actually see into the I
was very first row aisle seat cockpit right there.
Did you ever think? That was the last line of
defense. Did your dark did?
Your did my intrusive thoughts. Your intrusive thoughts like I
wonder if I could get in there right now.
I mean, I did. I always do that.
I did. See I can.

(25:29):
Make. That run.
Yeah, I can make that run. It locks from the inside.
I know, but when they're right before like they before they
lock it, I can make that run. And it sounds pretty solid too.
Like I heard it when they lockedthe door cuz the the flight
attendant closes the door And also you hear like it's almost
like a safe. It's like like you can just hear
how solid the lock is. It's not just like a little door

(25:51):
lock, you know? Do you think they're trained
that if like there's just mass cartage and murder going on
behind that they just never openthat door?
Yeah. You know, yeah, yeah.
Never open the door. Never.
Nope, you'll land it. Everybody's still being
slaughtered back in your ears, like, whatever, I'm eating these
fucking peanuts, you know? But yeah.

(26:12):
So where was I going? Oh, yeah.
So I upgraded my seat to the comfy seat and the key.
So anyways, to answer your question, why?
Oh, no, yours. Why did it take me so long?
I'm petrified of heights and I'mclaustrophobic.
And whenever I think of going into a like a fucking tuna can.
Tuna can in the sky. In the sky.

(26:34):
Fucking it just made my fucking skin crawl.
Like I was like, there's no fucking way in hell I'm going to
be locked inside this fucking death vessel.
Vessel for fucking how? When you, when you really think
about it, like how much planes actually weigh and what they're
made out of, it's kind of scary.Like it's literally.
It's, it's not even that. It's just all the all the moving

(26:57):
parts. Yeah, in a plane.
And everything has to go perfect.
Everything has to pretty much right?
I mean like. The flaps.
Look at India. The Indian Yeah, in the
crashing. Happened a day before I flew
out. The fucking all it takes is a
couple if you don't have the flaps set right, Yeah, then
we'll just drop out of the sky. Yeah.
I mean, there's backups, sure, but you know, backup systems to
certain that. Can fail.

(27:18):
Too, But yeah, and it has, obviously.
And then when they do fall out of the sky, it's like a missile.
I love how you're like, you finally got over your fear.
Fear and being crazy. You're just like dude.
One little. Little thing yeah ohh don't
don't think I didn't. This is all didn't play out in
my head the entire time but. Statistically, it is the safest
form of. Truck it is safer.
Statistically. I don't you can make anything on

(27:39):
a graph look like it's safer. Yeah.
Wait, there's way more. There's so many more cars on the
road. So it doesn't.
True, and I love that. When they're like, you're
actually more at risk when you're driving your car Well,
yeah, there's course there's more accidents when.
There's a gazillion. Cars on the road every day,
yeah, but. I think when a plane crashes
it's going to make fucking national news because there's

(28:01):
like 300 people that just fucking died whereas a car
crashes. And there was that one guy that
lived on the Indian, the India plane.
Yeah, he jumped out. So I've heard he jumped out and
I also heard that he, the seat that he was in is like fell out.
Yeah, they're like 11 AII heard that.
Yeah, like 11 A is the safest seat you can have.
Well, there was a guy 25 years old.

(28:21):
There's a crash 25 years ago andthe only survivor was a guy who
was sitting in 11 A. Yep.
That's why this guy was 11A. And then they didn't.
They didn't believe it at first.So if you ever fly out and you
could pick your seat 11-A11A. If I'm an airline, I have to be
charging a little bit more money, yeah.
Yeah. 'Cause you know, there's people
like like Dave and all these other people that are first time
Flyers or whatever that are like.

(28:42):
Oh, I'm already good. No, I'm already gonna be paying
extra because I'm buying upfront.
Well, up front's. Not a good seat.
To be. I don't care, I'm still buying
extra SO. 11 A was right by the wing in the middle.
You might go out first. That's yeah, that's, I mean.
If you're gonna go, you're gonnago when there's nothing gonna
stop it, you know? But I did learn.
So recap claustrophobic, afraid of heights.

(29:07):
Now, we have discussed before onthe podcast that when your brain
starts thinking like nervous thoughts, it's connected to your
butt hole and it makes you get bubble guts, right?
Yeah, you gotta poop, right? And that was another fear.
It's not connected to your butt hole, it's more connected to the
anxiety that. You have which makes your
stomach feel. Which makes you feel like you

(29:27):
have to shit it's not connected.To there's a couple, there's a
couple you know, you know, turnsin there.
But anyway, so that was another fear.
So not only am I claustrophobic,I'm afraid of heights, but I'm
afraid that I'm going to have tofucking blow my bubble guts on
the plane, which is the worst fucking place you could
probably. Imagine being in the airplane
and like you go in the bathroom.And just destroy it.

(29:49):
And like, everybody's just listening.
Yeah, like, Oh my God. Oh God, I'm OK.
You know me too. You, you got, you know me.
I don't shit in. Public, right?
Yeah. The thought.
Of pooping on an airplane is insane.

(30:10):
And for my I've never pooped on a plane but from what I heard
you can't do a courtesy flush. No.
Because it's just gonna suck youright through the fucking.
Toilet No no. Imagine sitting there, you're
like, oh let me do a courtesy fuck.
Oh shit, you you're you're quoting.
Soul plain right now. Inside of your fucking butt hole
gets sucked out your. People would hear that courtesy
flush. Yeah, thank God.
And then you just go for Round 2.

(30:31):
Your colon is hanging outside ofyou.
So what was the change though? So.
What made you will be like, no, I wanna this is it.
Well, you're going through a little like midlife thing going.
On yes, but let me say, let me let me say this first.
So I did learn because I gave myself ample amount of time to
show up to the airport. I'm talking hours ahead of time.
First time travel where you fly out.

(30:52):
Where Providence into into Jacksonville and then
Jacksonville back to Providence.So I showed up early because I
know the brain to butthole connection is probably going to
connect at some point, right. So I want to give myself plenty
of time in the airport itself. Before you get on the.
Plane to work that situation out.

(31:13):
Gotcha. You know, makes sense.
Yeah, so that's the key. So here's my tip to all first
time travelers show up with plenty of time before your
flight heads out. Wet wipes.
Wet wipes force yourself to shitprior to getting on the plane.
Yep. You know, I timed it perfectly
because boarding was at 8:30. So I went in at 8 to the

(31:35):
bathroom, took care of it, come out boarded.
Jumped on the plane? Yep, smart.
Yeah. Jave Dory, Jave Dory, please
come to the gate. Please come.
To the gate, also clean up in the bathroom.
No, it wasn't that bad. But anyway, I will say that for
my first flight, it was actuallyreally good because I, I, I

(31:57):
picked the aisle seat because I'm like, I'm afraid of heights.
I don't want to look out the window.
Fuck that. I don't want to know anything.
I just want to fly, get there and get off.
Did you sit next to anybody? On the way down, no, I was by
myself. Wow, yeah, that's always nice.
So did you get that good feelingin your stomach when they shut
the door and they said every boarding is done and no one was
sitting next to you? Yeah, well, I looked online.

(32:18):
I have the app. I have the Breeze app.
So you can see. Yeah.
So I knew there was nobody next to me.
I gotcha. So as we were, you know, we we
when they taxied out to the runway, I was feeling OK.
I'm like, all right, we're moving plane.
Plane kind of moves a little bit, You know, you just go.
In when the engines pull up though, it's nice.

(32:39):
And then they turn and they get on the straight away like they
go off and also you just like you just feel a little push in
your seat and you just look out the window and I was like, we're
going fucking fast. And then all of a sudden I
didn't didn't even like really feel anything.
But then also you just see new and.
Then it's just smooth. The ground getting a little bit
further, I'm like OK. And when we got up, I don't

(33:02):
know, probably 5 minutes into it, into the lift, I kind of
like leaned over and kind of peeked out the window and I'm
like, oh, this is actually kind of cool.
So the flight attendant was, wassitting right there.
And once we got to the Ding, Ding, Ding, the seat belt off
thing, I was like, can I sit over there?
Can I just move? And they're like, yeah, go

(33:23):
ahead. Like they're looking at me like
crazy. And I'm like, I'm sorry, this is
my first flight. And they were like, no, they
just made an announcement. We have a first time.
Flight. Yeah, can I see the cockpit at
50 fucking years old? That's crazy.
Yeah. So anyway, so, yeah.

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So I sat in a window seat and I looked out the window the entire
flight, and it was actually good.
I really enjoyed flying. Yeah, flying's cool.
Like, even like the little bumpsand stuff that you're going
through and you're flying. It put me to sleep.
It relaxed me. I was like, oh this is.
Oh my God. It was like out, yeah.
The thought of them making the announcement if I didn't know
you ever Like what a fucking loser I'm sure.

(34:07):
I'm sure. But you know what?
I don't give a fuck. I'm never gonna see these people
ever again in my life. So fuck it, man.
Whatever. It was good.
Yeah. So it was good.
All right, so answer your question.
What made me want to do this? Yeah, because I'm getting older.
I'm pretty much on a 10 year plan, 9 years now stop.
And I wanted to go to Scotland, but I don't want my first flight

(34:30):
to be a nine hour flight, you know what I mean?
So I was like, where's some place kind of local?
Fun little history. History some place I've always
wanted to go and I'm like, you know what?
Saint Augustine. I've always.
Wanted that Scotland is is there?
Is there another reason other than looking at nothing?

(34:51):
What do you mean? What do you mean I don't know?
Scotland to me is just. What's your What's your history?
What's your family history? I'm Irish in Portuguese.
OK, any any I don't. Itch to go?
Ireland doesn't intrigue me at all.
Ireland, Yeah. What about Portugal?
Portugal's now Portugal. 'S beautiful.
I would go to Portugal, but that's because I'm more of a
Beachy type of person. There's a lot of nice places

(35:12):
like that. The.
Beautiful Scottish Highlands. No, it's just green hills over
and there's some fucking goats and then you can eat shitty
blood sausage and like and. Wow, I can't believe you're
shitting. I don't know.
I listen. I like.
I would rather go to like. Old.
Like an old English village over.
I mean, it's the same shit, right?

(35:33):
It's not though. What else are you going to do in
Scotland? You're going you're.
Gonna see a castle. A fucking rock castle I.
Don't know. I heard the sheep are pretty
hot. Yeah, I.
Don't know, it's that's just notme.
I mean, I mean, Thailand fuckingSouth.
Korea, you would say Thailand, lady boy.
No, no, no, the tropical Thailand.
I think I'm going to Scotland this year actually.
Are you? I like so.

(35:53):
You, yeah. I mean, even you, you've done
Italy, a whole bunch of fucking Germany.
Austria, Switzerland. All right, all right, all right.
I get it. I say Thailand, Austria.
I flew to Florida. He's like, I saw fucking
Hitler's birthplace or whatever it was.
He drank a beer with the. I watched what?

(36:14):
They murdered millions of people.
Oh. Yeah, you did go to DACA, right?
Yeah. Yes.
Yeah. No, I'm not.
I I get why people wanna go to Scotland.
It's cool. Like I'm just saying, for me,
I'm just I. Don't know.
It's just like one of those fucking would be the first.
I mean, it's not the only place I wanna go, no.
It's one of them. There's so many cool places to
see. Yeah, not just in Europe, but
globally. But Europe has, I don't know,
there's something cool about Europe.

(36:35):
Yeah, like, I mean, you guys obviously know I'm, I'm, well,
our, our listeners also know that I'm huge into history.
I fucking love history. And yeah, going to Saint
Augustine. Oh, it's the oldest city in the
United States. It's got the oldest Fort, blah
blah, blah blah from the 1500s. All right, how about going to
see a fucking still standing castle from the 1100s, you know?

(36:56):
I mean, so actually you. No, no, no, hang on.
No, there's some. There's still you.
Can go back even further becausethat was part of the Roman
Empire. England.
Yeah, there are. Right there there's like the the
the Eric not irrigation, the viaduct, the the duck, whatever
it's called. There's a viaduct, the
Aquaducks. Aquaducks.
Yeah, they still have them, still there from.
They have. Centuries.

(37:17):
A lot of. Walls and ruins and and things
like that from that century. Some rocks and then yeah, stuff
from. Garrett hates history.
I do from hundreds of years ago.And yeah, it's just cool because
we don't, we don't have, we don't really have castles in the
United States, right? Palace are Versailles like.
And, and not even that that's socool.
One of the areas I'm I'm probably going to venture out to

(37:39):
Oxford for a day. That's where they shot a lot of
Harry Potter and and cool scenesfrom movies.
And you know, Pinewood Studios is there and you.
Lost me, but yeah. Oxford would be cool to go.
To see that I knew that would get him, but no, there's.
Something in Oxford because of Oxford University that was built
in like fucking 900, yeah. Yeah, that's what we're talking
about. Yeah, it's one of the oldest

(38:00):
universities and that would that's also cool to see.
And that's also different cultures and food and accents
and, you know. And like when I go to Scotland,
obviously I'm not gonna spend, you know, all this time looking
at the fucking Highlands, you know what I mean?
But we're also talking, I was talking to a couple of people,

(38:21):
is that travelling in Europe is way different than travel in the
United States. Yeah, 100%.
Like if you wanted to go from Connecticut to California and
drive. It's a week, forget it.
It's gonna take you 4 days. Yeah, five days.
Stops. You know what I mean?
It stops. It's about a week.
Yeah, but you go to Scotland andyou can literally drive down to
Dover. Yeah, which is on the English

(38:42):
Channel with the White Cliffs. Yeah.
Stop there. And then go.
Across. A day.
Then take the tunnel. Then take the tunnel.
The tunnel, The tunnel. The tunnel, Yeah, yeah, no, it
it so yeah. And most people use public
transportation, most people. And it'll get you everywhere you
wanna go. Yeah.
The only time you you would wanta car is if you were like in the

(39:03):
countryside like Tuscany, the Cotswolds or the Scottish
Highlands. And the the reason why you'd
want a car for, for those there,it's just because it's so scenic
and beautiful, right? And having the ability to just
stop whenever you want and just take it all in like.
That's like, that's what you want.
There's something about. And then make a right turn on
the wrong side. Drive.

(39:24):
Everyone side of the road you just take out a whole family.
It's like oh fuck, sorry, sorry Stupid American here.
Yep, sorry. We drive on the other side.
Yeah, we wanted to be different from you when we became a
country, so here we are. Yeah.
No, I don't know. It's just something whenever I
look at videos from Scotland or even like, OK, we'll say
Braveheart, whatever, you know, you just you see the hills and I

(39:47):
don't know, you know how they say you can, you can smell a
picture. Yeah.
Or a video, you know, you just look at somebody, your sense
kind of it just like to me, it just crisp, like probably the
most crisp air you could probably inhale.
Yeah, you know what I mean. And there's something about
like, obviously you can go on YouTube and watch whatever

(40:09):
videos you want to watch of people going on adventures and
you can see it through them and all that stuff.
And it's just not the same like when you're in the room and like
you're imagining whatever historic moment happened here,
right, playing out in your head or whatever.
It just, I don't know. There's no comparison.
Yeah. You know.
Well, yeah, and not only that, like.
Like video tours is not the same.

(40:30):
Yeah, it's not the same. And, you know, and I, I think
there's a lot of people who, youknow, they don't go out, they,
they don't travel, they don't experience the world and, and
what has to offer. And they just lock themselves
away and they get on their computer and they're, you know.
And the thing in the virtual andthe thing with American history
versus like European history or,or any history, you know, Asian,

(40:52):
whatever is that for American history, it's very, very rare
that you can go to a location and it still be that location,
you know, for their time period.Like you can go back to
Gettysburg and a lot of Gettysburg has been wiped out,
but they still saved 50,000 acres of the original town of

(41:15):
the original battlefield. So you can go to Gettysburg, you
can get a pretty good feeling ofwhat Gettysburg was back back
there. Saint Augustine, they did very
well of saving their history. You know, they still have the
castle, they have original buildings.
They have the oldest standing schoolhouse ever built and that
was back in the 1500s. It's still there.
I thought they all look like little churches too.

(41:35):
Yeah, all the whole school. Yeah, but like Salem, MA, Salem
witch trials, like Salem, MA is a fucking tourist trap.
Yeah. Like you go there and you're
like, oh, I wanna learn about witches and like, I wanna see
the thing, but. And all it is is there's really
nothing to it. Whenever I go.
Like they, they don't know wherethe hanging tree is.

(41:56):
Yeah, yeah, they just, I think they just recently guessed where
it is and it's behind a fucking mechanic shop.
Yeah, you know what I mean. That guy, whoever bought that
mechanic shop 40 years ago is like yes.
Yeah. Yes, You know what I mean?
I mean, there's still some houses and there's still like
they, but I mean, yeah, it's basically just like, oh, this
area here where there's now a Dunkin' Donuts was where Sally

(42:17):
Brown fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
You know what? I mean, I always think.
Whereas in Europe, sorry, no, sorry I.
Was going to say I always think just go back to Salem real
quick. I always whenever I go there I
always just feel the poor suckers who live here fucking
probably hate Halloween like. With a.
Yeah, fucking traffic sucks. They're.
Just they're just trying to go to your driveway and get the

(42:38):
fight and almost run it's. The same thing for tourism now,
because a lot of people are traveling to certain countries
like Spain, it's driving the natives crazy and there's just
there's there's some over tourism.
Weren't they the ones that did the restriction on the Airbnb's
now? Yeah.
So that's one of the things likeyou're even in Italy, like

(42:59):
Florence and stuff like that, they're restricting how many
Airbnb's there can be because it's actually creating a housing
shortage. And that's obviously causing a
problem for people who need housing.
So, yeah, you know, and that's why you see it in like New York.
You can't really get an Airbnb in New York and other major
cities just because there's justnot enough housing for for all
that. Yeah, so go back to the other
thing. Whereas, you know, a lot of the

(43:20):
history has been erased in the United States.
Whereas you can still go to, let's say, England and be like,
oh, this is the exact fucking location where Henry the Eighth
fucking cut off his wife's fucking head.
You know what I mean? It's still there.
All the the bosses are there because, I mean, they're still a
working monarchy, even though it's mostly ceremonial now.
And yeah, you can go to, you know, Windsor Castle or, you

(43:42):
know. What's the prison?
The Kensington. Palace or Saint James Plough or
whatever. This is the bed that they that
they. The Tower of London.
Towership mobile thing. Yep, Yep.
You know, and they still do a lot of the, it's a lot of, you
know, reenactment and theatrics,but they still, you know, do
the, yeah, the Trooping of the, the Colors or whatever and all
that stuff. See.
That would be fun to. Deal.

(44:02):
See, there was totally. Down for all that.
Stuff there was a room, I, I I'll have to look it up, but
it's kind of like in my head where there was a, a false
queen. I guess you could say.
I think it was like Bloody Mary when she finally, because there
was like an an 11 day period between the, the death of King

(44:22):
Edward and and Queen Mary comingin where there was a false
queen. They try to put someone else in
there and I guess they put, no, it wasn't her.
But anyways, they put a somebodyin a cell in the Tower of
London, bricked it off and she basically starved to death and
died inside the cell. And I believe that cell is still

(44:47):
sealed inside the Tower of London.
Like I don't know if the body's still in there.
Like I don't know if they unsealed it, took the body up.
But I guess it's like still likethis is the cell where this this
happened, you know what I mean? And it's just like, I don't
know. Yeah, no, you can't.
Like, it is just like I rememberwhen we got into Rome and we
came out of the subway, we came up from below ground and the
first thing we saw was the Colosseum.

(45:09):
And I'm like, it's just wild. Like, you know, yeah, I saw it
in the movie The Gladiator, but now I'm actually seeing it in
real life. And it's like, man, they like
all of Rome used to go there andhang out and watch people kill
each other As for entertainment.And it's wild.
And you can go in there and the thing.
I would have been all about it, dude.
And The thing is huge. And then you like, then you turn

(45:31):
and you keep walking straight and you can see where Caesar
lived and all the old ruins. And yeah, I don't know if you
love history. Like you can get a good feel and
taste for things by going to places like Europe, you know,
or. Yeah, Greece has a lot of good
history. Greece even like China and Japan
and stuff like that, they. Sell a lot of stuff.

(45:51):
Let's go to fucking Japan and goto the islands and make a
samurai sword. Fuck.
But yeah, no, it's the world is a cool place, Yeah.
Yep, and all right, that went. On and I'm glad you you got to
fly finally and now you hopefully you'll be able to
experience it. And world traveler Dan Jar.
World Travel. I do hope you go to Saint
Augustine. And to Florida once.
Dude, you should have went to real Florida.

(46:12):
You should have went to Tampa. Baby, you should have got to go
get smashed on a tiki bar in fucking Clearwater Beach.
Listen to Jimmy Buffett. Yeah.
But yeah, all right. So yeah.
Go to Scotland. There you go.
Yep. I'll let you know how it goes if
I actually go there. All right.

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That was one question that was. One question 75 minutes later.
That's what it's all about. A question too.
Love me a good hangover, right? Garrett.
What's your favorite book? Mine's Meditations by Marcus
Aurelius Speaking of Roman Emperor Caesar's and.
Meditations. Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

(46:55):
I'm not much of A reader. Marcus Aurelius.
Well. Fearless leader.
A fearless leader you never saw.Gladiator.
Yeah, so he actually he he like kept a diary or a journal or
whatever of like just, you know,to stuff document his thoughts.
And he never I don't think he ever intended that book to be
published. But they found it and they

(47:16):
published it and they that didn't have a title.
So they they threw, they came upwith meditations all.
Right, so ask the question is what was your favorite book?
Oh yeah, yeah. Is that it?
Yeah, a favorite. Book your favorite book?
I have a couple. OK, I, I mean, it's kind of like
an autobiography, but Obamas biography was fucking amazing.

(47:39):
It was really good, really good.Even if you're not a fan, you're
not a fucking Democrat, you're not whatever.
Just I'm telling you, the book is awesome.
He'll even read it to you. Yeah, yeah, you can do the audio
book. It's really cool because it it
shows you the behind the scenes shit.
He. Does the whole pauses and stuff,
yeah. It's just cool how like the
behind the scenes of the White House and him sneaking up to the
top Florida RIP Newports and shit.

(47:59):
I love that. Like it's even tells you about
that kind of like shit. That was a good one.
I also, I read Tuesdays with Maury, I'm telling you, I don't
know, in 5th, 4th, 5th, 6th grade.
That is still one of my favoritebooks of all time, Tuesdays with
Maury and if anyone's read it, they know why it hits.
You've read that book, right? No, I didn't read that in

(48:19):
school. Oh, it's so good.
Dude did. He really smoke Newports.
Yeah, he, yeah, he, he talked about in the book.
He used to. He used to sneak away.
So he, yeah, he was a smoker. I know he was a smoker.
Yeah, yeah. I didn't know.
Yeah, I didn't know his. Newports, the the DNC, I hated
it like they were trying to likehide it.
He quit. Well, he said he quit, but then
he said I used to. Sneak up to the.

(48:40):
He does. He does Zins now, No?
He used to sneak up there's like, I guess there's like a,
there's like a widow's watch or something that he would sneak up
and just go open the window and start ripping Newports with when
he was stressed out. I.
Used as a former smoker, Newports I.
Got I was a Newport guy, Newportfor years.
And then I went and I went to Marlboro Menthols.

(49:02):
But yeah. And then Tuesdays with Maury.
I fucking love that book. Feel like if I was the president
of the United States and I'd like free reign in the White
House, you'd never find me. I'd be like in the nooks and
crannies. Speaking of historical sites,
you know I'd be, I'd be lost in that place.
That book is good too, 'cause this is where.
Bill Clinton got his. This was the extra the extra

(49:24):
spot on the ground when it's a mist Monica's.
Louse. This is the shot that went over
her blue dress. It's right there on the wall.
Yeah, so those are my 2 a more renowned book, Obama's biography

(49:45):
and a back in simpler. Times.
Tuesdays with Mori. Tuesdays with Mori go ahead.
Things were simpler back then of.
Course the Lord of the Rings series is amazing too, but.
Yeah, You know, I'm not really abig fantasy reader, even though,
like, yeah, I like Harry Potter.I like Lord of the Rings or
whatever, but I don't really have a favorite book.
I just like what I'm reading when I'm reading it and I don't

(50:08):
know, like I've read that book The Man and the Monster.
That was a good book. Like it was cool and I'm always
reading something so. You are always, always reading
something. But yeah, I don't know.
And I the drier the better if it's like Enron scandal or, you
know, Bernie Madoff or somethinglike that, you know, 1776

(50:30):
historic. I I like a lot of history,
definitely biographies. But yeah, I don't know if I
could pin down any like book that I like.
That's my Bible. Or whatever.
That should be your homework, bythe way.
What? Find a book.
No Tuesdays with Maury. I know you would love that book.
You'd cry like a little baby too.
I know you, I am. A little soft you'd.
Cry like a little baby. But yeah, one of my favorite

(50:50):
things to do is when I, when I do travel, when I go into
whatever country I'm going into,I try to find a book that is
that kind of revolves around it.Like when I went to Italy, I was
reading about Leonardo da Vinci.When I went to, when I went to
Germany and Austria, I was reading.
About the funeral. The mineconf, yeah.

(51:11):
You're reading Mein Kampf, Casey.
No, I wasn't reading Mein Kampf.OK, I just.
But no. I'm going to the motherland.
Let's hit the. Moon, the history piece.
Dance, party, dance. Look at me, I'm a little Hitler
all. Right.

(51:35):
What's the next question on thatnote?
Yeah. Yeah, I don't.
I don't. I don't read.
I don't know. I'm not much of A reader.
Yeah. I mean, I read the articles in
Playboy sometimes. That's.
About it I like Maxim's Hot 100.You can get a lot of good
information from the articles. There's some There's some good
articles in magazines like Rolling Stone has.

(51:55):
Nobody reads magazines anymore. No, they usually read the
article that's posted online. If you have a magazine
subscription, it's because you forgot you had a magazine
subscription. Very.
True. Very true.
Yeah, I don't know. I, well, I read true crime shit
because I got to come up with true crime stuff.
So. That's why I'm surprised you
don't read more like true crime books, like The Man of the

(52:18):
Monster. Like, yeah, I feel like I'm
plugging this book now. Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's behind us too, so.
Which is anybody who hasn't readit.
It is actually a really good book if.
You're just Michael Ross. Michael.
Ross and this lady somehow befriended him and.
Well, secretly he wanted to killher.
Dude he was having fantasies every time he talked to.
Her but they would talk a. Lot smell your last.

(52:39):
Breath They would talk a lot on the phone and.
Hail it. She visited him, she visited him
and she wrote a book about him and it's actually quite good, so
highly recommend it. Cool.
Sweet all. Right, all right, next one.
Pizza, vodka and paper clips. Where are his names coming?

(53:00):
From, I don't know, pizza, vodkaand paper clips, right?
Here's a scenario for your dad. You've just attempted to rob a
bank, but the robbery goes awry.Dad.
Who's Dad? I.
Don't know, he just said. Here's a scenario for you Dad
is. He called my son.
No, I don't know. I don't know who it is.
My peers. Here's a scenario.

(53:21):
Alright, go ahead. That was just weird.
It was weird like. You dad or V dad?
I mean, I'll be your daddy. I don't care what I'm saying.
But I mean, he's piece of all right.
Here's a scenario for your dad. You've just attempted to rob a
bank, but the bank robbery goes awry and the police roll up on
you before you and your crew canmake your escape with the money.
Alright, it's not my son. He would never use the word
awry. Or or or crew.

(53:43):
Yeah, alright, start over. I'm sorry.
Here's a scenario for your dad. You just attempted to rob a
bank, but the robbery goes awry and the police roll up on you
before you and your crew can make your escape with the money.
So naturally you have no choice but to take the people in the
bank hostage. It's not long before the phone
rings and the police hostage negotiator negotiator asks

(54:04):
what's it going to take to end this peacefully?
What are you guys asking for? Sidney Sweeney.
What? Who's that?
What? What?
Yo, he's such a lot. You know who Sidney Sweeney is?
I've known euphoria. He no, don't, don't, don't,

(54:26):
don't, don't. He's playing fucking dumb.
He knows. Who I've seen.
There's not a man on earth who. Doesn't know who Sidney Sweeney
is, so I've seen. The first I've seen the first
season of Euphoria. OK, she's in it the.
Blonde. Which one?
She's the one that. Has the on the number she's
takes. She takes the Molly I.
Don't have an orgasm? On the on the merry go round.
The carnival I so here's the thing, you know what I want?

(54:46):
My take away from the carnival sequence was I love there's a
shot. There's a shot in it where it's
just kind of this long. Of Sydney's boobs.
No, they're the camera's just going through the carnival and
it's just grabbing different people as they're walking by.
Like, I don't know, I just. It was a good shot.
That's exactly what you're talking.
About. Although, although I do have to
say Sydney Sweeney has dropped down a few notches.

(55:07):
So you're going to ask for another hostage?
We're going to go 15,000,000 in cash. 15 Oh, OK.
We're going to 15,000,000 so. We're doing this for.
I was doing it for real OK 15,000,000 in cash and then a
helicopter. That never works.

(55:29):
The helicopter thing never works.
It never works, yeah. I don't know.
You don't win. You don't ever win these
situations anyway. But you're asking for something.
'Cause while you're on the phonelike a bean bag comes through a
window at 1,000,000 miles an hour and hits you in the head
like. I probably want some food.
I'd be like, throw me a couple of meatball grinders, you know,
like. Yeah.
At least get a good last meal. The last meal.

(55:51):
Yeah, are all three of us. I want Sally's pizza are.
We are we the crew so. You're on the phone, the guy,
you're like, hey, the guy's asking us what what we want.
What do you want, Garrett? I want three pepperoni Sally
pizzas from New Haven. So if we'd be OK, so I'm going
to be like, I want $30 million. In cash.
In cash. Because the bank didn't have 30

(56:11):
million in it. Right.
Banks don't carry a lot of cash.No, unmarked.
All right, Broken up into 3 bagsof 10 million each.
OK, so we each get a bag. OK?
I want 3 identical unmarked carswith tinted windows.

(56:32):
OK. And we're each going to get a
car, all right? They can't follow us all.
And then whoever makes it, makesit.
Whoever makes it, makes. It Why can't they follow us all?
Nope, they're not going to because of our driving skills.
We're going to lose. One of us is going to lose them.
What is this, the Italian Job? I need 3 black mini Coopers.

(56:55):
Yeah, all right. And some.
Food because if you think about it and some food, you might be
on to something because there's only one helicopter.
They don't have multiple helicopters.
So one it's got to follow one ofthem, one of us.
One of us is going to get away. Yeah.
Who's it going to be? I don't.
Know, I don't know. It's that we're rolling dice.
At that and then. Can we still get the Sally's
pizzas though so we can at least?
Invite that. So what you do is like you, I

(57:18):
don't know, you like make like amake.
Oh, you know what you do if there's like, all right, if
there's, I don't know if this would work either, but if like
if the family's there, you take a couple of the family.
Grabs Timmy and you hold the gunto his head.
And you say you're going to be, you're going to get in the car
as if you're me and you're goingto go and then three other two

(57:39):
other people, right? And then they take off.
And then we become hostages. And we become hostages, yes, and
then we escape with everybody else.
But in reality, we still are holding people hostage.
With $10 million. With $10 million each, yeah.
Because that would totally work guys.
We're we're master. Fucking although I would we're
really. Going to get this figure this
out. I would take a portion of that

(58:02):
money and give it to the families as they drive away
because if you just you. Just robbed a bank.
You're not. You're not yourself.
I know, but I'm just saying because if you just tell them
like what Casey's saying, if youjust tell them to go, they're
going to drive right to the police help.
But if you say, listen, I got 3,000,000, take this car, drive

(58:27):
as fast as and as far away as you can.
You're not. Going to get in trouble.
Right. And you got $3,000,000, you
know. And then just tell the police
that they were gonna shoot. Me, right?
I don't know. If I didn't do $3,000,000,
they're not doing a whole lot. You gotta make it.
You gotta make it worth 1. Million.
Like a million. I hope you get arrested then.
We're all getting arrested. Doesn't matter.

(58:49):
'Cause I'm gonna be 4, we make this deal, I'm gonna make a side
phone call. I'm gonna be like, hey, that
parking garage two blocks down from the bank.
Park another car in that parkinggarage.
Now it seems like they'll. Leave the key in there.
So then when I leave in my unmarked car, I'm gonna go right
to the parking garage, get in the other car, take off, win my
$10 million. This sounds like the opening

(59:11):
scene of Dark Knight. Dude, he was supposed I was
supposed to kill the other guy. No, I was supposed to kill you.
Right. And then I kill both of you and
take your 10 million. Fuck, you wouldn't kill us.
No, I wouldn't. I would take your money though.
It's fucked up. Yeah, that's how I do it.
We wouldn't last three seconds now.

(59:31):
It's all gonna fail. It's all gonna fail.
Especially now with all Camera 1.
Guy would get up and try to likefight and doing.
Yeah, like Dave hit him, hit him, Yeah.
Shoot the ceiling. Please just settle down.
We'd lose that room in a second,yeah.
And in a second I would. Probably off myself before I

(59:52):
fucking shot anybody else. You get bubble guts from
anxiety. I'm.
Like everybody get down. Oh God, sorry.
I can't for the man. Who can't fly in and go in an
airplane? He's trying.
To rob a bank. Oh my God, I didn't mean it, but
it happens to everybody. Sorry.
Yeah, we got a helicopter for your escape.
No, no, I can't. No, no, all right, change of

(01:00:14):
plans. I need new underwear and some
dude wipes. Please forget the $1,000,000.
I don't. I just need dude wipes and.
I need someone who can carry me out of.
Here maybe some gold bonds because I'm going to get a
rationale. The most high?
Madeest. Big robber ever dude.
But don't forget the pizza. How about pizzas?
Yeah. 3 Sally's pizzas please. Yep, that's my plan.

(01:00:38):
Going to go off without a hitch.Yep, I like it.
All right, That's it. All right.
Yeah. So.
All right. Underwear, food and 30.
$1,000,000. Don't forget the dude wipes.
Some metallic powder please. All right, in this segment of

(01:01:08):
criminal app with Chatsui, we got snow, we got booze, and we
got a body in the yard. This is the Karen Reed saga.
If anybody hasn't been feeling catching up with this, yeah,
we're going to title this the Lexus Lies and Law Enforcement.
All right, so buckle up. Today's story has everything
Snowstorms, cops, conspiracies, drunken drama, a cracked Lexus

(01:01:33):
tail light, and finger pointing more than a kindergartner
tattlefest. We're talking about the Karen
Reed trial, AKA The Real High Housewives of Canton meets CSI
Massachusetts. I was going to say, there's a
trend going around that she's mommy.
Yeah. Yeah, because she just looks
like a suburban, like my mom. I like it.
She's mommy. So let's dive into this Frosty

(01:01:56):
where one woman was accused of plowing down her cop boyfriend
with an SUV. Or maybe she was framed by an
elite squad of off duty Bros with badges and beers.
Who's a say, right? So here's the incident took
place on January 29th, 2022. It's cold like New England.
Why do I fucking live here? Cold.

(01:02:18):
Yeah. And Boston police officer John
O'Keefe is found dead face up inthe snow outside the house and
can splint frost trauma to the head.
Hypothermia. Not a good combo.
So the woman at the center, Karen Reed, is his girlfriend,
fiance, his girlfriend, finance professional and alleged SUV

(01:02:40):
assassin. So a prosecutor said Karen,
after a night of boozing and arguing, drunkenly backed into
O'Keefe with her black Lexus SUV, then drove off while he
froze to death on the lawn like a sad suburban snowman.
Karen said. Suburban snowman is crazy.
Karen said hold up, y'all reallythink I reversed over a grown

(01:03:03):
man and didn't notice or whatever?
She claimed the real drama happened inside the house at a
party hosted by some of O'keefe's cop friends.
Her theory? He got attacked maybe by a
person, maybe by a dog, maybe both, and then dumped outside
while everyone was inside and kept drinking and pretending
they didn't notice that the bodywas outside in the bushes.

(01:03:26):
So the evidence that they had, or lack of lack thereof, Let's
talk about the Lexus. There was blood on the tail
light, a crack in the bumper. And the prosecution says that's
our smoking gun. We got her.
But the defense said, yeah, but it's Massachusetts in January.
Everything's cracked, covered insalt and bleeding from

(01:03:47):
somewhere. Also, Karen reportedly told
first responders. I think I hit him.
Cue the courtroom gasp. But let's be real, If you woke
up after a night of partying andyour boyfriend was dead in the
front yard and you'd be questioning everything,
including your own parking job, there's not.
That's not a confession. That's a Tuesday level anxiety.

(01:04:11):
So just when things couldn't getmore weird, lead investigator
Trooper Michael Proctor. He got fired.
Why? Well, he sent some colorful
texts about the case. Let's just say if your murder
trial nickname is Proctologist of Justice, your career may be
circling the toilet. The defense seized on this and

(01:04:34):
said that the whole investigation was a cover up, a
dirty cop, a dirty cop party going wrong, wrapped in a
snowstorm behind a blue wall of silence.
Now the trial, the mistrial to mayhem.
Karen's first trial in 2024 ended in a good old fashioned
mistrial. The jury was like, yeah, we're

(01:04:55):
split 66 between definitely did it and this is a Hallmark
mystery going off the rails. So they tried again in 2025, and
that's when things got spicy. Defense attorneys went full law
and order. They brought in forensic experts
who said, Nope, injuries don't match a car hit.
And one guy even said the woundslooked more like a dog bite.

(01:05:16):
A dog bite suddenly in this trial had everything but
scooby-doo pulling off a mask. So the verdict came in surprise.
Not really. Not guilty of murder, not guilty
of manslaughter, not guilty of leaving the scene.
But wait, she was convicted of. Driving under the influence.

(01:05:38):
Driving under the influence. So that's it basically.
Yes, Karen, you're a drunk. But no, we don't think you are
guilty of vehicular manslaughter.
Imagine dodging A manslaughter charge and only getting.
ADUI. Yep.
So the sentence One year probation and a lifetime of
awkward Christmas parties in Canton.

(01:05:59):
So what does the public think? The o'keeffe's family?
They are outraged, Karen supporters, they're ecstatic.
The jurors conflicted. Absolutely.
You know, people like us, you know, who like the dabbling crew
crime, You know, we're feasting on this chaos.
Juror Paula Prado even told reporters she was 100% sure

(01:06:20):
Karen didn't kill O'Keefe. Another juror changed their vote
after realizing the evidence hadmore holes in Swiss cheese left
on a radiator. What's next?
This isn't over. There's a civil lawsuit coming
from the O'Keefe family. They're suing Karen in a few
local bars for allegedly over serving her.
Because nothing says justice like blaming the bartender.
Meanwhile, Netflix is probably already casting Kristen Bell and

(01:06:43):
Jesse Plemons for the limited series working title Blood on
the Tail Lights. All right, so that does it for
the Karen Reed saga. A tragic death tainted
investigation in a courtroom drama that would make Shonda
Rhimes proud. Stay tuned.
Never mind, I'm not doing Stay tuned next week when we

(01:07:04):
investigate the man who faked his own death to avoid a family
cookout. Until then, keep your tail
lights clean and your alibis cleaner.
See ya. See, see ya.
Dude, it, it is such a good trial because, like, you really
don't know, right? Like it's not one of those ones
where, like, you know, we don't know if OJ did it.
Like stop. Yeah.
Where? Like this one, you it could be a

(01:07:26):
cover up by the police, it couldbe her just.
Being running. Over her husband.
Yeah. Well, like we were talking a
little bit earlier, you know. I would.
I'd be split on the jury decision too.
If I was in that jury, I'd be like, I don't know.
Yeah, 'cause we're talking, I think, you know, Casey and I
were talking and he was like, I mean, you have to know if, if
the if the cops did it, you haveto know there's a dead body

(01:07:48):
outside, right? Like somebody had somebody had
to have done something. But I've also heard of
situations where people get go to a party, there's a falling
out, something happens, bunch ofdudes jump.
Another dude beat the shit out of him.
Yeah. And the guy who got the shit
beat out of him was like, fuck this, I'm going, I'm not, I'm
leaving, I'm out of here. And then gets a brain aneurysm

(01:08:10):
outside and dies. It falls over.
You know what I mean? Fucking freezes to death.
Right the. Dog bite doesn't make sense to
me though. You.
Know maybe they would, one of them a canine handler.
Well, yeah, I was gonna say theysick their dog.
Was there a fucking Malanoy? At the park?
Like what? Aren't all like commands in
German? Depends.
French or German? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:08:31):
What's what's the what's the word for attack?
There's. It depends on what you use.
Pick one. A lot of them.
Do you have one? Kiwa is Kiwa, Yeah.
Kiwa is the one that they normally use, like for KB D, KB
KB V and all that stuff. Kiwa kiwa.
That means it murder the person.Yeah, like kill, OK, but there's

(01:08:51):
other ones too. Every, every.
It depends on whoever trains whoever they get trained.
But. I the dog bite doesn't make any
sense to me like, but if, if theper if the the coroner or
whatever or the person who's doing the optopsy says that it
doesn't match the car, the car like that kind of settles it
right there that she didn't hit him hang.

(01:09:12):
On let's do this so my my understanding is that they so
one of the big things that the prosecution was pushing for was
or as one of the big pieces of evidence that the prosecution
had was that they showed her carin front of the house backing up
quickly because I guess Lexuses have like a black box

(01:09:36):
essentially and it and it keeps track of.
Kind of like a Tesla. Yeah, it keeps track of like
what the car's doing. Like they, they knew when the
door was opened and the light went on in the car.
So they knew when he got out of the car, they knew when she
backed up the car and you know how fast it was going and all
that stuff. And they knew because of his

(01:09:58):
like smart watch when he like his heart stopped doing what the
heart's supposed to do. So they had a very like
reasonably tight timeline as to like probably when this all went
down and there's some dispute about about that and the I think
the defense was trying to poke holes in that timeline.
Obviously they were successful at that because they convinced a

(01:10:22):
jury of 12 that. All you got to do is cast doubt.
Yeah. And I think, I think that was
really, it wasn't so much that they found her innocent, it was
just that there's not. Enough.
Kind of like that cunt Casey Anthony.
Yeah. Well, Dave?
Just so I have she's. Just trying to help.

(01:10:43):
The fucking people that are being wrongfully accused, Dave.
Just let her live. Let her fucking TikTok dance.
So, yeah, I, I think that, you know, that was a lot of it.
It was that there was enough doubt because of the way the,
the case was investigated. I think the, the police, you
know, they didn't cross their T's and dot their eyes cause,

(01:11:05):
and I think it makes sense, right?
Like the, the police probably looked at what was there and
they honed in on it. You know, they didn't really,
they didn't go in the house, they didn't talk to anybody in
the house. And, and you know, police plant
evidence and they lie and they do stuff and whatever.
And I think more and more people, maybe because of social

(01:11:27):
media and because of, you know, when you're scrolling through
your whatever you're scrolling through, you're seeing all the
cop videos and, and all the stuff that they're doing.
You're not that. Guy pal.
Yeah, but can't you see that though?
Can't you see the the the other side of the night going on him
fighting with this old lady, himshowing up to all his buddies,
this cop buddies, they're havinga like a little get together

(01:11:47):
drinking. He's like tonight I'm getting
fucked up. Fuck that bitch like and then he
just starts going to town and then they're all like yo.
Relax. Man, slow down.
You don't fucking tell me to slow down.
And they're like, yo, I'm telling you, you're acting.
Crazy. And then they're like Kiwa, and
then people show up. Like I can see that side too.
Yeah. I.
I'm going home. Fuck you guys, I.

(01:12:08):
Think what's interesting about fucking shit falls right now.
I think what's interesting aboutthis case, and I think
prosecutors are going to have tobe mindful of this in the
future, is that juries don't believe cops necessarily
anymore. Without there has been of, yeah.
You know what I mean? Like it's not because back in
the day. A perception shift.
A perception shift. Yeah.

(01:12:29):
Back in the day, if a cop got onthe stand, oh, that was his
work. It was.
It was his. Work right?
Yeah. That was and, and now everybody
knows just from interrogation techniques and all that stuff
because all that's getting all that's out there now they lie.
They lie and so. Nobody even respects cops when
you get tickets they're like yeah OK buddy fuck off When you
after you get your. Ticket.
You see those videos all the time.
Nobody cares. And so now they're going to have

(01:12:51):
to make make sure that when theytry to prosecute a case that
they have the evidence. Yeah, by other means, probably.
And honestly, eyewitness testimonies, like, that's like
the worst evidence you could have.
Yeah, Yeah. I think that they're.
And they believe that what they saw as was 100% accurate.
Like they'll like, tell it like it was an actual story.
Like if you if you, if you see somebody commit a crime and you

(01:13:11):
ask 10 people, can you describe the person that that committed
this? You're going to get 10 different
variations. Oh, he's wearing a blue shirt.
He's wearing a black shirt. Bushy eyebrows?
No, his eyebrows were clean. He had blonde hair.
No, it was black hair. It was.
Yeah, yeah. It's, it's definitely a fun
case. I had fun with that one for a
little bit, yeah. Well, yeah, I think what made it
interesting was the the first trial being a hung jury.

(01:13:31):
Yeah, yeah. And supposedly there were more
people in that case that thoughtshe was guilty than than this.
The second case. It was like, I mean, I think
there was like 9 of the 12 jurors in the first case that
thought she was guilty of like manslaughter or murder,
whichever one. And then in the second case, it

(01:13:53):
was like, no, they didn't, they didn't find her any, none of
them found her guilty on any of those charges.
Do. You think that because it seems
like when everybody's, when any,when somebody beats a murder
charge, they become an instant celebrity overnight.
Do you think that has influence on juries?
What do you mean? Instant celebrity or just for a

(01:14:13):
moment? For a yeah, a brief.
Moment in history, it's always like a big deal like when you
know what I mean like it's broadcasted on every news
network not guilt like it's a big it's.
Our modern day, it's our gladiator.
Whatever you know. Do you think that it has
influence on juries to make the right decision or they they want
to be part of that moment? I'm not saying that they'll come
out and say that subconsciously.Because one of the things that

(01:14:36):
I, that I'm, that I'm wondering and I, you know, I don't know if
any of you guys have served juryduty or been to jury duty.
I always got out of it. I mean, I've shown up.
I've been there. I've gotten to the point and I
say something crazy. But so like, like one of the
things, if you're a jury, you'renot supposed to like, read about
the case or dig into it. You're only supposed to, like,
absorb what the court gives you while the trial's going on,

(01:15:00):
right? And that's the same thing for
this one. But how many of those jurors
knew what took place in the first trial and how it played
out? They can say.
Then and then how many of those jurors, when they went home on
the weekend, were totally oblivious to or made an, made an
attempt to not watch anything about the case while they were

(01:15:21):
on the weekend? Like no shot, you know, like,
'cause there was a lot of peoplein and around that courthouse
that were, you know. It.
Was it was amazing. I will tell you right now.
Major news. There's no way you don't go home
and you're like, oh, let me justsee what they've said today.
Yeah, I will tell you that if I were to be on a jury and I knew

(01:15:44):
that it was like a murdered trial, I would say whatever it
is I needed to say. Yeah, on that jury.
Oh, you'd want to be on that jury.
Fuck a murder one. Yeah, like the last time I had
to go to jury duty, it was around the time, I don't know if
you guys remember this, but there was a murder in Griswold.

(01:16:06):
It was this kid who live with his parents and he hired some
thug and his girlfriend from Hartford to come and.
Kill his parents. Kill his parents and make it
look like a robbery. And they're like, yeah, cool,
we'll do that. But also we're going to murder
you as well and just take whatever the fuck we want.
What? What do we need you for?

(01:16:27):
You know what I mean? I remember that.
Yeah. So that trial was up, coming up
when I got my jury duty call. And I'm like, Oh my God, please
be this. Please, please, please, please.
It was ended up being some dog bite fucking some kid got bit by
a dog and I'm like this. And then finally they were like
you, you and you. You guys can go home.

(01:16:49):
I'm like deuces see ya. I don't want to deal with this.
That's it. There's an instant way to get on
jury duty. You show up with a MAGA hat and
you go, who? Who's getting locked up today?
As soon? As you walk in the door.
And they'll be like, Sir, you'reall set.
Why does it gotta be a MAGA hat?Why can't it be a blue haired
girl or. You go that way too.
You move that way, you can go that route.
You get blue going with blue hair and then like a a AP shirt

(01:17:11):
and just be like. Who am I saving from the?
Fucking. And I'm like, all right.
Get out of here, Who am I? Saving today, yeah.
All right. Yeah, I think it'd be fun to be
on the jury and. Hell no, you guys are.
Crazy. Even if it's like a malpractice
case or civil suit, you know, and you're deciding how much.

(01:17:33):
You guys are just nosy. Yeah, I.
Know. You just want to go in and beep
a no shot. I would not want to be in the
jury miss work. They pay you like $15.00 an hour
or whatever. A a murder case like that, yeah.
And then you're. Stuck for unless it's like a
slam dunk. Oh.
Dude, Diddy, I go to the Diddy trial.
Though you know, where they clearly have evidence, you know,

(01:17:56):
'cause then then it's like, all right now you're sitting through
all this stuff for, for what? And the person just didn't want
to played out or something. But but yeah, no, if it was like
a questionable case like 5050 orwhatever, like that would be,
that'd be a little nerve wracking because like, I
wouldn't want to get that wrong.If I got that wrong I'd I would
feel like terrible. Specific duty to get it wrong,

(01:18:18):
dude. But some people, they do, they
go in the jury room, they deliberate, right?
And they're just like, I want toget out of here, like guilty or
whatever. Yeah.
And it's like, that's like, it's, I don't understand how
some people are wired that way. You know, you're talking about
somebody's the rest of their life, you know?
Yeah. I don't know, like you got to

(01:18:39):
dig through the evidence. You got to think about it, you
know? I guess I think you can get, you
can get, you can get influence with the rest of the whoever's
in that jury group. You could if you're just like.
I don't. Know would you be that guy
though? Like let's say they go with the
the foreman and goes, all right,let's just see where we're all
at right? Right off the RIP, like it's the
The 12 Angry man, the the movie and everyone but everyone but

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one person said. No, I wouldn't be that guy.
Would you? Would you?
But you're like, you're sitting in there.
You're like, I think this person's not guilty.
Yeah. Everybody else is guilty.
Yeah. Are you going to just say, yeah,
you're just going to go with it?Yeah.
OK. You guys know all right.
Sure. Guilty.
You got to be the one person that hanged that.
No, that's the worst. I want to go home dude.

(01:19:24):
Well, usually when they, when they, when they first go into
the jury room, from what I understand, they usually take
like an initial vote. They usually they're like, all
right, where does everybody stand?
Right here. Yeah.
And I would probably go with what everybody said, yeah.
The first one, yeah, if we hear if we sat through the trial a
little bit and I'm like I don't.Know so Even so, you know what I
would end up doing even if I thought, even if I agreed with

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them, right, I would probably say not guilty because I still
feel like we have to go through the evidence.
We have to at least go through it once.
Oh God you'd be the worst personto be on a jury with dude like.
Like to be perfectly honest, I could care less if the guy's if
the person's guilty or innocent.I just want to see all like the
the evidence. You know.

(01:20:07):
You see it throughout the trial.Right.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, then. Then you go back in there and
then you got to, you know. Yeah, I could care less.
Yeah, I just want to see it like, I don't care what it where
to put what way it points to like innocent or guilty.
That's the big difference. You just want.
To I want to. See the blood, the guts, the
decapitated head? Well hit.
That's I want to see all that. Shit, most most courts you can

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just go and do that whenever youwant.
Like it's they're open to the public now.
No, but they block it from the audience.
Yeah, only jury. When they show, they, they show
the jury like the jury sees it, but usually when it's graphic
and whatever they kind of, I mean.
They're in the room. Angle it.
I'm just saying if you're. Away from the audience.
No, they they don't because withthe jury trial in the Diddy

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trial, they just had the jurors got to see like 3 or 4 of the
freak off videos and they didn'tshow the people that were there.
They only they showed the jurorsin like a private thing.
So I don't know, maybe some of it depends how, I guess what,
what court, the state law. Some some courts let you film
some courts on it. Yeah.
But yeah, I don't know. But yeah, that that, that whole,

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that whole case was crazy. I'd go in there and be like,
what do you say? I'm like, I don't go fuck.
Do you see that fucking picture,yo?
You see his head. Dave, can we focus here?
We need an actual verdict, yeah,but look.
At that, Yeah. Hold on, hold on.
Can you send in the the picturesagain?
I need to see the pictures, yeah.
We're gonna ask that you know, 3be excused.

(01:21:34):
You know that Casey would be like the the judge would hate
him because he'd be like, they'dbe like, oh, what do you like?
He'd be the lead juror. Or whatever.
And then he'd. Stand up and be like, actually,
Sir, and they're just going to arant about like justice and
injustice. And this.
And the judge be like, we just needed a yes or no Casey.
I don't know if I'd. Question for you.
Yeah, pretty much Question for you.
I don't know which. Bear is best.

(01:21:56):
Well, the hung jury thing, right, That's when everybody,
not everyone agrees. You have to have unanimous to
have a conviction or an acquittal.
I don't know if I'd be OK with that.
Like, why can't we come to an agreement?
You know what I mean? Either way, you know, and I
would if I was the like, I don'tknow how much control you have
as a foreman. Like, I don't know if I'd ever

(01:22:17):
be able to go up in front of a judge and say we can't come to a
determination. I would just want to keep going
until we got an answer. Like I'd want to wear everyone
down until I got you one way or the other.
Yeah, but then that's when you get the people that are just
like, I want to go home and. They would eventually either go
one way or the other, probably I.
Don't know if that's what I'm saying there.
Well. You, you would be the person who
would influence a jury, the remaining jury.

(01:22:40):
Yeah. But to go away in the opposite.
No, in the opposite direction, because as soon as you've been
like, well, guys, what about this and this and this?
I'd be like, all right, I don't like him, so I'm doing the
opposite. I'm going the other way.
Yeah. Yeah.
Which is probably why hung juries exist.
And you should just call it whatit is and let them retry it if
they feel like it. Yeah.

(01:23:00):
So. But yeah, I guess you never want
to have a case that's that closeif you're a prosecutor where
it's like, iffy. Yeah.
You know. Because then that's when things
get iffy. Yeah, because it was just so
easy. I feel like for the I, I
shouldn't say it was easy. I'm sure the defense had to put
a little effort into it, but to just show that the the police
didn't, they left the door open for what happened in that house,
like what happened in their house, because they never went

(01:23:23):
in there. I still have a hard time
believing the idea that you havea house full of however many
people and that there's this bigconspiracy, all cops, all cops,
and there's this big conspiracy going on and that nothing has
come out about it. Yeah.
You know, like. Well, you take, I mean that
they. All got to, they all got to keep
a secret. Or it just so happens only one

(01:23:43):
person knew he was there and oneperson took him out and one
person did whatever. Yeah.
So my, my, like you get dropped off at a party.
What, what, what time did you drop?
It was like midnight, I think. OK, Midnight.
And he was found at 6:00 AM o'clock or something when she
woke up and it was like, where is he?
He's not home yet. Yeah, You know what I mean?
And I think that's after that hehe was found.
And somebody googled how long does it take for a hypothermia

(01:24:06):
to set in or something like thaton her, on her sister or?
Something. Oh, really?
Yeah. Yeah, but if I mean it's not
that's a reasonable Google afteryou just found out that you're.
Yeah, it's true. Like well.
How long could he have been out?There so the the I.
So what my question is how, withall these people at the party,
nobody left the house, nobody went outside from midnight to

(01:24:28):
6:00 AM? Somebody did leave the house, so
they so there was a girl, she left the house at some point,
but she didn't see anything likethe the Yeah, if it's.
Dark out, you know you're not looking around.
It's dark out and he was like tucked away all the way in the
corner, you know, So unless you're kind of looking for it,
because that's what the, the, I think the defense was saying was

(01:24:49):
like, nobody saw this, you know,this guy.
And they're like, yeah, we didn't, we didn't see him.
It was dark. Still have a hard time buying
the fact that buying the idea that this guy went in the house
and either got, you know, attacked by a bunch of people or
by a person or something and he was just allowed to wander off

(01:25:11):
or they put him in the yard or whatever.
Like I, I still, because I feel like if something like that
happens, you're going to want tomake sure that like, you know,
he didn't die in your front yardbecause that's, that's
incriminating. You know what I mean?
Like it's a good one. It's definitely a good one.
When you got a few beers flowing, you know you don't.

(01:25:31):
You don't. Make good judgement calls and
stuff like that. You know, whatever, I didn't
beat your ass, get the fuck out of my house.
I'm not going to come check on you.
The. The the real answer is, we'll
never know. Yeah.
No, unless she comes out and is like, yeah.
No, writes a tell all book. I got mad at him and I floored
it going backwards and. Unless or unless one of the

(01:25:54):
people inside the house says something comes forward.
Yeah, I think if, if there is a big conspiracy with multiple
people, I think it'll eventuallyprobably come out.
Yeah, because people, you know, I don't know, maybe not.
Well, what is it? How do you keep a secret?
You keep it to yourself. No, you kill everybody that
knows the. Secret knows the secret.
Yeah, you keep it to yourself. Yeah, I.
Dead men tell no tales. Sounds like the departed.

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But they did sell the house. Really.
Yeah, I think they sold their house quickly and the.
Dave, you should have jumped on that.
I think the footage. Probably at a good price too.
I think the footage the her the footage on her ring camera when
she pulled up because they have a ring camera that shows her
driveway and the car is pulling up to it that somehow got
deleted. Really.

(01:26:38):
Yeah, so they don't have the footage of her rolling up.
Was it deleted because somebody deleted it or she says she?
Says the cops deleted it and thecops say she deleted it.
So that's that's weird, right? And I think.
Just adds to the conspiracy. I think they had a ring camera
too, and that is gone missing. And then the the the people who

(01:26:59):
own the house, all of the other like the they like destroyed
their phones and stuff like I don't know.
So the whole thing's kinda, there's a whole bunch of layers
to this, so. I wonder how obnoxious he was
being at that party for them to kill him.
Or maybe, or maybe, maybe he knew something.
Or maybe he never got into the house.
They said that he never got in the house.

(01:27:19):
They never, he never went in thehouse.
So I don't know. I think that's what makes this
case. I find it interesting that the
Lexus will tell you when you stop and the door open but the
ring you. But Amazon can't recover some
deleted Ring camera. Yeah.
Like, come on, dude. Yeah, sketchy.
Sketchy. All around sketchy.
Sketchy. All right.

(01:27:40):
Yeah, I don't know. That was pretty good from LAF.
Yeah, very thorough. I don't know if it was very
thorough. I'm sure we got half that stuff
kind of mixed up. Whatever that's.
Right, it doesn't matter. It doesn't need to be real.
It's all good, but she, yeah, she got off so.
Yeah, she did. She can.
Go. Mommy.
Mommy. She can go do whatever she
needs. Mommy.

(01:28:01):
Yeah, it, it, it is. It is pretty tragic.
And then, you know, the family'snever going to get closure.
You know, she's probably never going to have the full
presumption of innocence if she is.
And, you know, because. Oh.
Yeah, because no, there's a lot of people that think she did it.
Even though she's not guilty, there's still nobody who's
guilty. And there's also a lot of people
who think she didn't do it and I'm sure she's going to get
support from them for the civil trial because that's going to

(01:28:24):
cost them a bunch of money. I'm sure a defence trial cost a
ton of money and. Well, I think I think she will
probably lose the civil trial because all you have to do is
you don't have the. Ponderance of evidence.
You don't have to prove that shekilled him.
You have to prove that her actions led to his death.
Yeah, you know what I mean. More likely than not, something
happened, right? Yeah.

(01:28:44):
So yeah. And and that's what happened
with OJ, right? He he was acquitted of the
murder and but lost the civil and they never got their money.
So the family so so I don't knowif that's how that'll play out
in this case or not. Rest in peace.
But I it's not over because. Fuck yeah.
Getting, getting, getting. Now they can start going after
the money so. Yep.

(01:29:06):
But yeah, that was a good one, yeah.
All right, well, we got thirteen. 13th floor.
Oh yeah, we we don't have a thing for it.
I'll put it in. If it's not in there, I'll put
it in. The 13th floor 13th.
With Casey Moore. Ding Ding.
Oh yeah, and we're doing yours next, so 13th floor.
So we're going to talk about Iran.
OK. Yeah, yeah.

(01:29:28):
Because obviously so we, I, I was going to do something else.
Yeah. You know, and I will still do
that topic one day, but I think it's so significant that what
happened just, you know, recently.
With us, yes, it's some scary, it's some scary times going on
right now, boys. Yeah, I mean.
Scary. Not for you.
I'm still in the draft range. You're not What?

(01:29:51):
Shut up. I'm going to fucking.
You're not going anywhere. Shut up.
I'm. Going to miss you guys when I'm
at the Battle of Tehran or whatever the fuck it is.
I'm going to be thinking about you, Dave.
Yeah, not going to happen. All because we didn't.
You would be like. The emotional female, you know
what I mean? You would be like the supply
chain coordinator, yeah. Like you would be nowhere near

(01:30:11):
what are you? Talking about I'm trained, but
I'm a trained killer. I pack your socks for you, Mr.
Navy Seals, man. I would do that job.
You want you're going to be the supply clerk.
You want 3 pairs of socks. Oh man.
I put the extra thick ones in there for.
You I can hit AI can I can hit 1/4 at 25 yards.
Dude, you're a 30 plus year old male with 0 military experience.

(01:30:35):
Yeah. I'm definitely getting supply
chain. Yeah, I packed your bag.
Your butt. Yeah, I.
Think the closest to battle thatyou'll get is probably flying a
drone. What would happen?
Yeah, actually you'd be really good at drone.
Flying. I'm very good at drone flying.
Because I would say supply coordinator no.
Because half the supplies would be missing because you got to
pack them, no? Tracking no.

(01:30:56):
Tracking. Beep, beep.
Beep beep. And then yeah, yeah, but no, you
are correct. That would be me too.
I just beep. I'd be like, anybody wants some
fucking some jammies? Gotcha.
Yeah. So I, I will say this because,
you know, I try, I make it a point to ignore everything

(01:31:20):
that's going on around me. Everything or just politics?
Just I don't know how you, how you do that because like there
was a time where I got too involved in what's going on in
our current events and it was not good for my mental health.
So I make it a point I. Remember that too.
Blissfully become unaware of everything that's happening

(01:31:42):
around me. However, you can't ignore the
fact that we just flew a 36 hourstraight fucking mission totally
unfucking detected to the rest of the fucking world, Yeah.
Yeah, and. That's fucking ridiculous.
Kind of gangster dude so. I'm not gonna lie, I fucking
hate it. But at the same time, I'm like
when I when I get those militaryhype videos on TikTok, I get a

(01:32:04):
little excited. That's kind of I.
Get a little excited. That's kind of badass, you know?
I'm I'm not gonna lie, I feel. My red pill, I feel, I feel it,
dude. I try, I try to suppress it and
then I'm like, you know what? I see AB2 bummer.
I'm like fuck America. What?
We did that. We did that.
Yeah. Fuck yeah and.

(01:32:24):
Then I then I come back down. I'm like, I know that's not the
right thing to do. I do.
Then I see a sub in a fucking aircraft carrier and then I get
excited again. I.
Don't know bombing like things have been done with every single
president. Yeah, Obama bombed the fuck out
of a. 21,000 bombs were dropped under the bombing.
Yeah, like that's a thing. Like everybody's like, Oh my

(01:32:45):
God, I can't believe we just. No, it's a thing.
It happens every. Fucking it's different though,
that was occupied airspace that we had during wartime like.
So he obviously inherited Afghanistan and Iraq, but he did
go into Libya and he was trying to build a coalition for Libya.
And he, he, part of the reason why Gaddafi got overthrown was
because of that of, of that. But yes, I mean, Jari's right.

(01:33:09):
The ultimately the, the, the commander in chief, the
president of the United States has some discretion, limited
discretion when it comes to doing something that needs
immediate action, especially if it's a threat to the United
States, right? Can't wait for Congress to
declare war. And do or Israel, right?
What do you mean American interests?
Or or Israel, not just a threat to the United States or Israel,

(01:33:30):
you. Know, no, I mean, obviously
Israel's an ally, but Israel waslargely up until a couple days
ago was dealing with AI mean they were just doing that to
Iran and they have obviously thesituation going on with the
Palestinians in Gaza. But I mean, there are, they're
very busy in Israel, yeah. Well, they were taking shots not

(01:33:52):
only from Iran, they were takingshots from Syria.
They were taking shots from Hezbollah.
But you have to remember. Yemen, they were taking shots
from, so they they were basically taking shots from
north-south, east. And surrounded.
And the reason why they are, youknow, shooting missiles out of
Iran is a lot of those are proxyelements from Iran with these

(01:34:12):
Hezbollah, all that stuff, they're funded from Iran.
Number one funder of terrorism. Yeah.
And so they've been saying for years that, you know, Iran is,
you know, X amount of days. Or X 45 days just.
Stop the spread. No of getting a of getting a
nuclear weapon. Two weeks.
And Iran's position is that, youknow, they're trying to use, you

(01:34:36):
know, yeah, uranium for the peaceful.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In an underground.
Secret. Bunker.
Yeah, yeah, that. That's they're just trying to
make electric nuclear power, dude.
That's it. I'll tell you what.
Sure, we needed a a 30,000 GBU bunker Buster to get to it, but
you know, they're just. Making a nuclear.
Power Plant. But yes, I think the the
consensus of the world is that Iran shouldn't have a nuclear

(01:34:58):
weapon. I agree for a lot of reasons and
I, I guess we'll have to see, you know, because we're all
civilians and none of us have access to the classified
information as far as I know. And none of us know roughly how
close they were to getting a weapon and whether diplomacy was
totally off the table or not. Maybe this attack on their three

(01:35:22):
nuclear facilities or whatever, or they were trying to develop a
bomb or whatever, maybe that wasa way to entice them to go and
negotiate. I I feel like it's it would be
really hard if I was on the receiving end of the attack to
be like. All right, now I'm ready to.
I'll sit down. With you if if history tells us
anything is blowing the fuck outof somebody usually brings

(01:35:44):
people to the table. Dude, did you see the happened?
In World War 2. Yeah, but it took a lookout.
Yo. I.
Mean. It took years, it took years,
and it wasn't until their leaderblew his head off that they
finally. Oh yeah, They were still ready
to fight, dude. They were still ready to fight.
That would have been a horrible war that we had to deal with.

(01:36:07):
But real quick, did you see the the photos of the satellite
images of the after like before an actual the actual bunker
Buster going that like it's justthree holes in the ground?
Yeah, it's so. It's so cool.
So. Cool, because you have no clue.
Why? To look really close.
They're like, here's before, here's after.
I'm like. And then you just see the holes.
Like, I was expecting devastation, yeah.

(01:36:28):
Yeah. And you don't realize that it
was just all internal. And the one that you did, you
see the the, the £30 bomb. The bunker Buster?
Yeah, it's. Just a hole, no?
Like they're built to go. What is it 2?
150 yards or something down. 250meters into the ground.
Yeah, something like that. That's like almost a football
field. Yeah, that's crazy.

(01:36:48):
Yeah. And you can.
You can see two in those images.And then?
There's no explosion, it's just a hole in the ground and then
the tunnels are filled. And supposedly they, they, they
directed it to go into like a ventilation shaft and so go even
further. Jesus, which is, which is crazy.
That's just. Wild.
I mean whatever you think about it, the the whole operation is

(01:37:09):
just fucking mind blowing. The funny part is is that Tom
Cruise and Top Gun 2 literally depicted this.
If anybody saw Top Gun two it's like almost verbatim what
happened. Besides, they used AB2 and said.
Imagine if that's how. Like Trump, that's what.
They literally used a what like.If that's how like are they're
in the situation when they're planning this this thing and

(01:37:31):
they're using scenes from top pad.
They're like, Mr. President, Mr.President, Mr. President, we're
going to point you to and he's just, you know, that's how they
they get him to approve things like they show him clips from
scenes from too. Listen, this is exactly how this
is going to go, Mr. President. He's like, is that Tom Cruise?
I think for most Americans, the the concern is, you know, is

(01:37:53):
this going to be escalatory? Is it going to turn into another
F, you know, Iraq or something like that?
You know how there's? No way.
How much I? Would never make boots on the
ground type of decision like that.
But here's the thing. It's going to come within our
borders. I would I'm that's what I think.
Terrorist attacks, sleeper cells, that stuff, that's the,
that's going to be the scary part.
Yeah, we're not going to a war, so to speak.

(01:38:16):
We're. It's going to just, there's
already been, there's already super credible threats against
certain things. But I think I don't think that,
and you know, all those are, aregood points.
I don't think that the average American is probably thinking
about that. They're just if you're around
for 911, if you were around for Bush's WMDS in Iraq and stuff

(01:38:36):
like that, you know, it happened.
And so it's not, it's not ridiculous that people are
thinking that, you know, becausewe did it once.
You know, I'm not saying that it's gonna happen in this
instance, but let's say Iran decides that they are gonna hit
our bases or they are gonna do something and Iran's not
whatever. Iraq though, dude, it's 90
million. People with a, it is, it is very
different in, in a lot of ways, But how many, how many Americans

(01:39:01):
know that, you know, the cultural differences between
Iraqis and Iranians or even, or even, or even the history of
Iran, which is also interesting.But you know, they bomb us, then
next thing you know, we're bombing them more and then they
attack us. And then it just turns into this
thing like with Israel, they throw some bombs, they throw

(01:39:22):
some bombs back, and then they throw bigger bombs and then they
throw bigger bombs, you know? Where does it end?
Though where does it end, you know?
Technical Nuke. So yeah, I don't know.
And I think that's what got. I'm OK with a reset.
Yeah. Is that bad?
I feel like that's our like the mindset of most Americans
fucking. Reset, whatever.
And. Then there's there's discussion
that they might have moved all their fissile material out of

(01:39:43):
those places before the the bombs came.
In Well, we gave him enough timewhen we were just but.
The thing is, he gave. Him I gave him two weeks.
He said two weeks, but he only gave him two days.
It was. Only two days into the two week
coming. Very true.
So they might have been in the process of yeah.
Just. Oh my God that's a SNL skit if
I've ever heard it. Iranian site nuclear scientists
trying to move fucking uranium. We have two weeks and.

(01:40:06):
A bunker Buster coming. I think our satellites probably
would have picked yeah, because you can't just yeah, it's
fairly. Hard.
It's not even us, Mossad has shown with their light years
ahead of the CIA and what the fuck they're doing, the pagers
and all the other stuff. But maybe there's more sites?
Mossad that we. Don't care about where they're
doing stuff. And I do think that the in the

(01:40:27):
near term almost it's undoubtedly that their nuclear
program or nuclear ambitions, whatever they are is definitely
took a set back with this with this hit.
You know, the question is the long term really like how is
this going to influence the young Iranians that are there?
Are they going to kind of are they going to kind of unite and

(01:40:48):
coalesce around this issue? Are they going to just see
America's as the enemy? You know they already.
See a dirty? Enemy No, that's not true.
I There's a lot. There's plenty of five.
Million people in the streets. Have you seen the protests?
Yeah, in Iran with death with. One.
Well, no. So OK, you look at the death to
the America protests, then you look at the other protests where

(01:41:11):
you have women who don't want towear fucking headscarves and
then then they get fucking murdered.
Agreed. All right, so which?
Cracks me up that regardless of what you believe or what you
think or what your policies are or whatever, but the people that
are like I stand with Iran or I stand with these people will get
fucking stoned in the fucking street if you were actually
living in Iran. So shut the fuck up.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

(01:41:32):
I do think that, I do think that, you know, before this,
there are plenty of Iranians that did not like their
leadership. You said that, I didn't say.
It you said it, they did not like their leadership.
They they didn't. They don't want to live the way
they they're living, but they'rekind.
Of have you seen Iran from the 70s?

(01:41:53):
Well, under the Shah. I'm not saying that the Shah of
Iran was the greatest guy. No, no, no, but.
It was very different back then.They had a lot more freedoms,
lot more rights. You know you.
Didn't have to hide hide your face in public.
Yeah, well, you didn't. Have to ask permission from your
husband to like. All that shit didn't it wasn't a
it wasn't a religious like, I mean, it was a religious they
have a country, but they you know, it wasn't like it didn't

(01:42:15):
it wasn't ruled by it. Was very, it was very different.
And then, yes, there was a big shift in.
Islamic extremists. You know when when the regime
changed and you know, they've been living under that ever
since. But, and it doesn't mean that
ever, you know, even though that's what they have now, that
that is what everybody, you know, there's restrictions on
freedoms and rights and stuff. And people, obviously there are

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people in that country that wantmore freedoms and more rights.
And they were against their their government because they
didn't have those freedoms and rights, whatever they are that
they're looking for. And now it seems like after this
attack, they're all kind of, youknow, like us after 911, you
know, we're always divided in America.
There's always this right and left and whatever it's been

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around forever. But after that, we all, we all
coalesced, we all united, we allsaid, you know, we all got angry
together. Well, that, well that's where
I'm I'm asking is that won't. Happen now.
What event has to you don't? Think that if that something
similar happens to that level. That's what.
I'm saying there's gonna be, there's gonna be so many finger
pointing. This happened because of you.
Yeah, this happened. There's too many.

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Conspiracy. There's too many conspiracy
theorists now where right if some?
We are big, way too divided. It would go instantly to who,
What what shadowy entity that's running the world wants this to
happen. It is.
It is different. It is different.
I do think that if we didn't. There's so much hate now if.
We didn't. If we didn't bomb Iran recently

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and they just attacked us, I think people would look at it
different, like. No, they'll be like, oh, it's
because of your policies in the Middle East.
It's because, and This is why. Nope, it's because you just let
everybody come through the borders.
That's why this happened. And you just got people who are
just stuck on either side that they.
Trivial in the middle, trivial topics.
They can't find a fucking middle.

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That don't matter. Yeah, you'll you'll never see a
September 12th ever again. I agree where you could you both
sides of the aisle were just united on a fucking main cause
we need that. I mean, I don't, obviously.
Never. We couldn't even come to
agreement with fucking Kovid. Well, that's that's.
No, I'm talking about the very beginning.

(01:44:22):
When we I think we were all, when the first, the first week
of Covic, everybody thought theywere gonna die.
No, no, no, no, no. When it first started getting
reported and everybody hated Trump so fucking much.
Trump was like oh I'm putting a travel ban on China.
Ohh that's racist. And now you have fucking who?
What's her name? Pelosi walking through Chinatown

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in fucking in San Francisco. Oh, look at me, I don't have a
mask. There's nothing to worry about.
Two weeks later now they're like, oh, we're all gonna
fucking die and they're all wearing masks and they're
fucking doing shit in the fucking Rotunda and they're
doing, you know what I mean? I do think that as far as COVID
goes, this. Guy got fired up.
I think as far as COVID goes. You know what?
I should not be leaving commentsbecause I'm one.
I will admit he's like, yeah. No, no, no.

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And Nancy Pelosi's husband's gay.
No, I'm not. I will he's.
An excellent stock trader. Yeah, I will admit that all of
my everything that I'm going to say is uneducated.
Yeah. Because like like.
No, because I do not intentionally, I do not wrap my
head around things because like I said, it's not healthy for me.

(01:45:25):
Yeah. So everything I say is going to
be opinionated. It's my opinion.
Yeah. So it's probably not honestly.
Our pain is. And, and also when it comes to
the, the situation when they're around, like nobody knows
anything, no, anything because we don't have access to any
information. But like, we can see the
pictures, we can hear the commentary.
Bro Sean Hannity told. Me like we don't know what was

(01:45:49):
going on, when, how. Close.
Israel needs to be blown to fucking smithereen.
We don't know any of that stuff.You, you, you.
We as Americans, we elect peopleto be interested in going into,
you know, government and making decisions for us.
You know, that that that doesn'ttotally remove us from our, you
know, civic responsibility. You know, we should try to pay

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attention as much as we can. We should try to be educated
voters. But.
It's hard. There's a lot of stuff.
It's hard when you're influencedfrom the whatever.
What I do segment but I also well.
That's why I talk about social media, you know?
But I also think. That's an echo chamber too.
I. I do think that Americans, it
shouldn't just take something and turn it into this big
conspiracy or, or naturally take, you know, something out of

(01:46:34):
context or whatever and just runwith it and turn it into this
crazy situation and, and try to influence, you know, the rest of
the world that everything is on fire or whatever when it isn't.
I I honestly want to know from both of you guys what event has
to happen. Do you really want to know?
No, I really want to know what at what scale of an of a
terrorist attack event has to happen for us to be OK with

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going in boots on the ground anda full blown invasion of Iran.
It has to be bigger than it has to be bigger than 911.
Right. The decision has to come from
the Congress. That's what I'm saying though,
it's an event so big, right? That it like exactly what you
said September 12th. What event has to happen for us
to have full blown invasion of Iran and and the regime change?

(01:47:20):
I don't know. Or send in Mossad.
Dude, Mossad already said that they could go in and kill the
president of Iran right now. They literally could.
They're like, do you want us to do it?
Do you want us to do it? Do you want like they're that's
been said. But I mean, it's, it's like
things we've learned in the past.
Also, it doesn't matter if you take that person out, there's
somebody next. There's going to be a next

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sometimes. And also honestly destabilizing.
I mean, that's our MO. Well, what are we talking about?
But look at what happened, you know, in Iraq or, you know, any
of these places where you literally went in and you you
totally destabilized the government.
What ended up happening? You ended up having all of these
little pockets of. Gangs.
Of, you know, terrorist organizations, ISIS and all

(01:48:03):
that, they all took control, came alive.
And then now you have to deal with all these other little
factions that you know, and it just makes it even harder.
And then, you know, again, as you bomb people, it, it promotes
the growth of hate against America.
But but that's that's the. And that's generational.
Yeah, that that's the, I mean, Iwatched this thing on Iraq and

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basically the ISIS came from thewar in Iraq.
So you have to ask yourself the question, you know, you're
bringing up, you know, oh, because we bombed this, now
we're going to spawn a new groupof hate, right?
So, I mean, we basically got ISIS from the Iraq war.

(01:48:49):
You know, we got Al Qaeda from basically when we.
Went in Afghanistan the first time.
The first time, right? And yeah, we funded the, the,
the Qadis, whatever they're called, you know, and we
basically stabbed them in the back during the, the thing with
Russia and everything. So in that area, in those in the

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Middle East and, and wherever you're, it's going to be
unavoidable. There's going to be groups that
are going to form because of their idealism that they hate
the West, they hate our the way we do things they hate.
So you're going to have hate groups.
Do we not act militarily to helpour country or our country's

(01:49:38):
interests in the world for the fear that we're going to spur
another No I group? I don't think isolationism, what
do we do? I don't think isolation is ever
the answer. I think, you know, whether it's
it's us and our allies and stufflike that, like we, you have to,
you know, you have to try to want to promote, you know, good

(01:49:59):
values and, and cooperation amongst nations.
And, you know, but I do I, I think it's, it's a, it's got to
be a tough, you know, balancing act because, you know, I do
think that when you bomb and, and, and there's naturally it's
war. So there's going to be civilian
casualties, people are going to be, you know, killed and that's

(01:50:22):
going to influence people. Like that is one of the greatest
recruitment tools that you can have.
And I think for America, a lot of ways with combating that it
has been, you know, when we generally go into regions and
we're we're, you know, managing a war or whatever, like we're
also there to rebuild, you know,and hopefully during that, you

(01:50:43):
know, we did it in with Japan, we did it with all these other
countries. And they're they're, they're
some of our greatest allies now,you know, so you can't just go
into an area, you know, drone a bunch of people and then just
walk away, dip out. That's where I think also too,
is that Iraq is not lost completely to on on the 20 year
war. Like I think a lot of the

(01:51:04):
younger generation saw under American occupation a better
future. And then after once ISIS came
back, they're like, what the fuck?
So I think I think a lot of that, a lot of those younger
kids are going to grow up to be more acceptable to Western
culture. So it's, it's basic human, it's
human nature and it's it's animal nature as well is that
there always has to be an alpha,right?

(01:51:26):
So if we're looking at a pack ofwolves, there has to be an
alpha, whether it's male or female, someone has to keep the
rest of the pack in line, right?It's it's nature.
So when you're talking about military or the world or
anything like that, you know, there has to be an alpha.
If there's no alpha, then peoplewill fucking try to, you know,

(01:51:50):
move into place, so to speak. So for us to go in and bomb a
couple of key locations, hopefully, I guess it's still
out for debate with minimal civilian casualties then in
order to correct what's happening in the world.

(01:52:13):
Yeah, No, I you know what I mean.
I. Think for this situation I
don't. Know if you want to fix the
camera. I can.
I don't know. I kind of like that I was.
Missing OK. I think for this situation,
yeah, like if you like, like I said, nobody wants Iran to have
a nuclear weapon. And I think that, you know,
trying to sit down with them andand manage just diplomatically

(01:52:35):
like we've done in the past, that is always going to be the
preferred approach and. Oh, I'm all for peace.
Yeah, yeah. And I think everybody wants
everything. And you.
Know I'm just saying sometimes you got to show the muscle to be
like. And I think because that
decision was made and they did target those those areas, we'll

(01:52:56):
see if if showing the muscle is what is going to resolve this
may maybe, maybe Iran will come back to the negotiating table
and work out the deal diplomatically.
Maybe it is because, you know, they don't, they don't want any
more muscle. Or maybe they're very weakened
after the Israel, the, the attacks on them from Israel and,

(01:53:18):
and now this, you know, maybe it's a big set back for them.
You know, maybe they will doubledown and, and, you know, this
will become an escalatory thing.I, I, we all have to.
And that's what I mean, like nobody knows where, what's going
to happen next. We're going to have to wait and
see ultimately what our, our leaders and, and their leaders
and the rest of the world, what they decide that they are going

(01:53:39):
to do. And then we're going to react to
it. And, you know, we may be caught
in the, the, the crosshairs as, as citizens, you know, but
hopefully this, this, it was all, you know, thought of when
the decision was made. And I'm, you know, hopefully we

(01:54:01):
have contingencies and plans forwhatever happens, you know, and
we just got to kind of hope for the best, I guess.
Yeah, there's definitely going to be an aftershock.
It's just, you know, so to speakfrom this, whether it's through
military action, whether it's through, you know, Iran

(01:54:22):
attacking our interests overseasor whether it's inside our own
borders. Well, breaking news, they're
already attacking US bases. Yeah.
As of an hour ago. The one in Qatar.
Yeah, so I know Trump, PresidentTrump, when he, you know, spoke
about the President Trump, when he spoke about the attack on on

(01:54:44):
those facilities and around that.
He if we, if we were attacked that he would, you know, he
would respond. And and that's where things get,
like I said, you know, they escalate because, you know, they
hit us, we hit them and it doesn't stop.
And then there's no room for diplomacy.
You know, again, I'm who knows where they were at, Who knows

(01:55:06):
how imminent, you know, they were to having a weapon.
You know, we, we probably will never know that information, but
or, or maybe it'll come out one way or the other, But hopefully,
you know, we make good decisionsand we didn't just give up on
diplomacy because negotiations got hard.
I I'm not in favor. We're not good at regime change,

(01:55:27):
obviously. No, we're never we've never been
good. We tend to destabilize regions.
And I also don't agree with thisidea that every region wants to
be like America, right? You know, I don't think that's
the case. I think for the most part we, we
get it in our heads that who wouldn't want to be us?
You know who wouldn't want to beAmerica like?
Do you see the B2 bomber dude? Who wouldn't want that?

(01:55:47):
I do think that. You want your own chanted B2.
Yeah, I do think that. Come on over to some democracy.
We'll give you some McDonald's, yeah.
Who doesn't want to? I bet you that that Burger King
that they made on that the the airstrip in Iraq probably still
really still running today. But I do think that if you can
instill some rights and freedomsand give people a better life

(01:56:08):
like that's, that's admirable and and we should always help
our fellow man. The only, the only thing with
the only problem with this, withthat is as we've seen in other
areas, that when you try to instill Western ideology in an
area that is predominantly extremely, extremely

(01:56:30):
conservative, yes, there are people that are going to want
change, particularly the ones who are more oppressed, they're
going to want that change. However, the problem with that
is there is more people who don't want anything to do with
our way of life. Yeah, I, I.

(01:56:51):
Think. Particularly people with penises
to enjoy a very good, comfortable way of life.
And the people without penises are oppressed and abused and
murdered for talking out of turnand certain things.
You know what I mean? Yeah, if there's definitely one
thing that's the Middle East hasis just it's all over the place.

(01:57:15):
Not to assume genders or anything, but you know.
Yeah, it's. Pretty nice being a man in
fucking Iran to be. Honest.
It's it's very turbulent region.It has been for, you know,
decades now issues in Syria. Obviously Israel's got things
that they're dealing with and obviously, you know,
Afghanistan, you know, Iraq to some degree, and Iraq now Iran.

(01:57:38):
Well, we were just learning thatIraq's trying to talk Iran down.
No, look, Iraq's come a long way.
We still have boots on the ground in Iraq and.
They're like yo-yo yo-yo, chill,chill the fuck out.
Trust me. Well, there's, there's other
countries, without getting into a whole spiel about it, who are
also kind of saying let's take alet's take a pause, let's take a
pause real quick, yeah. You know, again, let's see if

(01:58:01):
diplomacy can resume. I, I again, it's, it's got to be
really hard for if you're, you know, on that negotiation team
as a, you know, up for the Iranian side to be like, you
know, but I don't know. On the lighter side, did you see
that video of the guy playing the saxophone while the
ballistic missiles were launching them?
They. Were in like Lebanon or

(01:58:22):
something? They're in Lebanon and like,
it's just, they're at a wedding.It's a wedding and they're just
the guys ripping the saxophone and there's just ballistic
missiles. I'm like, if that's not the
current, like the the perfect video for the just the current
situation. What's going on right now?
Yeah, it's insane. It's insane.
Ballistic missiles just going through the atmosphere and then

(01:58:43):
some dudes just ripping a saxophone.
People don't. Realize.
And they're just, it's a happy go lucky wedding just going on
in the background. I mean, are things perfect in
the United States? Not even close, No.
There's so much fucking work we need to do without our own
borders. Yeah, but.
I wouldn't want to be anywhere. In in the world scheme of
things, we got it relatively pretty good.

(01:59:04):
We are in a very. Casey talks about that all the
time. When we, when, when little might
like miniscule problems seem so big when you.
Just live. Yeah, fucking so.
Comfortable. Like yesterday I bought a
watermelon, OK, And when I cut open the watermelon and I
fucking love watermelon, I'll buy an entire watermelon.
Your day was fucking cube it up dude.
I know exactly where this. Cube it up, put it in a bowl,

(01:59:26):
I'll just pick up the watermelonfor days.
I bought a watermelon and had the seeds in it.
I threw the fucking watermelon and went and bought a new
watermelon. You see this piece of shit?
Yeah, but you know what? That actually made me think.
I actually paused for a second and being like, I'm a fucking

(01:59:47):
asshole throwing away this watermelon because that's seeds
in it when there's people who would just eat the the rind on
the watermelon if they could. You know what I mean?
Yeah. That's.
Yep, And it's not perfect food, baby.
It's not perfect. It's it.
There's a lot of fucking issues that we have to deal with.
However, I can buy a fucking watermelon and then throw it

(02:00:10):
away because it has seeds in it.Wow, you're such a piece of
shit. You know I mean.
We are. I don't have to worry about
getting stoned in the middle of a street because I talked to a a
man. We you know what I.
Mean we are definitely in a verygood position geographically and
and otherwise. But, you know, and I wish we,

(02:00:30):
we, we're friendlier with our neighbors maybe than we have
been in the last, you know, yeah, six months or so.
But yeah, I mean. That was a that was a heavy
conversation. Let's lighten it up, boys.
It is very, very stable here anyway.
But but yeah, for now, we'll we'll see what we'll we'll.
See. Yeah, we'll see.
Yeah, we next week we might comeback and me and Casey might be

(02:00:52):
going to war. Yeah, I think, I think our, our
biggest threat is not nuclear. It's not military.
I think our biggest. Threat.
Is something going to happen within our borders?
A major terrorist attack. There's a lot of.
That's always been a concern, 200.
Saber cells that have been activated or whatever that they
know about. So far our federal government,
for the most part, FBI, whatever, there's a lot of

(02:01:14):
things that we don't even know transpired, but we've we've done
a pretty good job at keeping it kind of chill.
Honest question. You're a sleeper cell for Iran.
Yeah, right. You did the whole thing.
You've been born here. You've been indoctrinated.
I would still play the long gamebecause right now it's they're
going to be expecting it. No, I know I'm, I'm just hear me
out. I would probably chill you're.

(02:01:35):
Used to Western Cup. You've lived your whole life
here. You're loving America at this
point. Yeah, you're gonna, you're gonna
keep it all up. Then then you get.
The phone call, right? The the, the the.
Code word comes. In yeah, the flip phone opens
and the code word comes in. You're like, fuck, Jerry's
making BBQ next to him, fuck. I'm gonna.
Miss the fucking BBQ God. Damn it, I got it.

(02:01:56):
I got you Got. A party next to it.
I wanna. Dude there's Bud Lights and BBQ.
Over. I just went to the strip.
Club. I got a fucking hooker.
God damn. Like do you want?
I gotta go kill myself. How many of those sleeper cells
just kind of be like, just put the phone down?
I mean, 911, Mohammed Atta was here for what?

(02:02:17):
Yeah, he was. He was here a couple years I
think. A long time.
Or, or a couple of guys were actually here for a, for a,
spent a period of time. They made friends.
Yeah, they they went to college.They learned.
How to fly? And yeah, they learned how to
fly, but Neverland they but you know, but yeah, that's, I mean,
that's the same thing, you know,you become accustomed to this
like, and then next thing you know.

(02:02:38):
You meet your neighbors. You meet like you think it
doesn't seem as bad. Yeah.
Sounds like there's a war going on.
I'm saying yeah, Speaking of wars, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was
good. Yeah, that was good.
So alright, we'll we'll see. We'll, yeah, we'll touch base
next. Week yeah, we'll catch up.
I'm, I'm sure this, this is gonna be, there's gonna be more
to this So, but you know what? This is the whole point of

(02:02:59):
Chatsui, you know? Someone's gonna clip this of our
conversation. Like what?
What's gonna actually happen? Then what's it gonna take?
And then it's just gonna cut to a fucking something.
Well, I mean, this is the, this is the whole thing.
This is what we wanted, right? We talk about anything,
everything. And, you know, agree with it.
Don't agree with it? Yeah, whatever.
I mean, the three of us right here, we do not agree on a lot

(02:03:19):
of fucking things. Nope.
But you know what? We're still friends.
We know how to be civil with each other.
Correct? And I hope everybody at home
does too. One of the most important things
that. And Gary Red Pill's coming out,
dude. Pretty soon, Gary Red Pill's
going to make an appearance. One of the most important.
Things you used. To give me AB2.
Bomber baby. I'm red one.
Of the most important things I think we all have to do as
Americans is just have that conversation, talk to each

(02:03:41):
other. Yeah.
Your idea isn't any more right than my idea.
Let's just have that conversation.
There's no. There's no harm in that.
You. Know, and that's the thing
between the three of us is that we're friends, we respect each
other and we we value each otherand we understand that we don't
all share the same opinion. And we just so happen to be in
the basement of a house, right? Nice and safe, right?
You know, I don't know I. Don't know unless a bunker

(02:04:02):
Buster comes through. You would need a bunker.
Buster to get the husband. Need a fucking M80.
M. 80 firecracker like I don't know.
Layla might just come through the.
I know, I think Layla is fuckingriding the fucking bunker Buster
right now. Boom.
All right, let's light it up. What's next?
Foolish stocks. All.

(02:04:23):
Right. So my segment has nothing to do
with anything except. Nothing to do with anything.
That Dave turned 51 today. Oh.
Yeah, or yesterday, yesterday, yesterday.
And we want to know how was the birthday, what was the
celebration? Because I heard it got a little
rowdy. Feel like you're stirring
something up? I heard it got a little rowdy.
Well, I went to a Renaissance fair, yeah, which is good.

(02:04:48):
And I've been to a couple beforeand I, I just, I didn't know
what look I wanted, you know? So you so the first couple,
let's just break this down. The first couple, you were a
spectator. You didn't.
I I, I, I dressed up, but not like wild, you know what I mean?
I just got some things off of like Timo and Sheen and stuff
and, you know, first I was goingto go like, all right, you know

(02:05:10):
what? I want to be like a, like a
backwoods, like Viking, you know?
That's why I want to be. I want to be.
Viking want to be the German clan, Yeah.
Attacked so I got I got like thethe shoulder thing with the fur
and I got fur from around my boots and stuff and I'm like,
you know what? The first thing's kind of a pain
in the ass. Yeah.
So the second time I went, I went with more of a classical

(02:05:32):
like, you know, I got had to like the the rolled up sleeve
black shirt with the, the, the oops, the tie, the the string in
the shirt, you know, kind of medieval ish looking.
And I was like, yeah, that's cool.
It's easy, whatever. But because of my European
Scottish heritage, I'm like, youknow what, I want to get a kilt.

(02:05:56):
This is where the story gets. Good.
So I went, I went and bought a kilt off of Amazon.
It's not like a good one, you know, because some of them can
go like 4, five, $600.00. You know, I just got a basic one
off Amazon for like 40 bucks andI'm like, all right, I'm going
to go in a kilt, you know, and Ihad the shirt with the, with the
strap and whatnot. So yeah, I did a, we went to

(02:06:18):
the, I went to the Renaissance Fair and at the fair they had
like a after hours kind of when it gets a little.
Freaky. You know, it gets a little it's
it's definitely not for the children.
So they have like comedians and they have like, you know, they
had like a burlesque show kind of thing.
And it was, it was, it was kind of cool.
And then they had the kilt contest for the fellas.

(02:06:42):
I have no idea what a fucking kilt contest is, right?
But one of the guys I. Wait, how many beers are you in
by the? Time, not beers.
Oh, you were drinking? Drinking.
Ales the Meads. Oh, you had a Oh, sorry, my bad.
We're in the time period. How many Meads do you have?
Several Meads. I had several.
Buckets of Meads. Yeah, not sure exactly how many,

(02:07:02):
but there was there was plenty of Meads.
So you were feeling? The Meads were.
The Meads were free. Free, free flowing.
Yes, they weren't free, but freeflowing anyway.
So one of the guys I was standing with, he's, he was a
kilt wearer as well. And he's like, let's go.
I'm like up on stage. And he's like, yeah, let's do
it, let's do it. I'm like fuck, I'm like all

(02:07:23):
right, I have no idea. I've never seen a kilt contest
before. No idea what to expect.
So there's like probably like 10or 15 of us wearing kilts and
we're all up on a stage. And so when they do the kilt
contest, they do it in stages, right?
So the first around, I guess youcould say was everybody just did
a little little loop around the stage, you know, show off your,

(02:07:46):
your outfit kind of thing. So we all did like the whole
little cattle, cattle line, you know, around that stage.
And each after each stage, you know, they were like, what do
you think of this guy? And everybody's like, you know,
they go down the line and then based on the cheers, you either
stay or you get kicked off. So each, each stage, a few
people were like, oh, thank you for participating.

(02:08:06):
Go back to your seat. Yeah, get the fuck out.
Yeah. So the first round we did, we
walked around the stage and, youknow, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I made it through the first
round, right? The second round was you
basically did the the little circle on the stage again, but
when you got to the front of thestage, you did a twirl in your
kilt, right? Yep.

(02:08:27):
So I went around, it was my turnand I did my little twirl and my
skirt goes up right, Or my kilt,My kilt goes up, my kilt goes up
right. Everybody's.
Did you have? Now we have to fill.
You didn't have underwear on, right?
No, it was free balling. Yeah, free balling.
So there was. Did did the people cheer when
you? Yeah.
Yeah, 'cause I don't, I don't know.

(02:08:49):
I, I mean, I didn't look, I didn't really check anything
out, so I don't know who had garments on and who did not.
But you were. I was barrows.
Yep, Yep. So so I did my twirl and
everybody's like, you know, hey,so again, went through the
votes, blah, blah, blah, made itto the next round.
The third round is everyone layson the stage.

(02:09:16):
At the count of three, you lift your legs in the air and on the
count of three, you spread your legs.
So that happened. That happened and went through
the thing. What about this guy?

(02:09:36):
Yeah, I made it through. Yeah, the only person up there
with no underwear. I.
Don't know. I don't know what's going on.
I don't know who else did. I didn't look, but I did not.
So the next round, there's four of us left down to the crunch,
right? So does me, another guy, two

(02:09:57):
other guys over there, and the announcer was like this one.
I am not. We're not going to tell you what
we're going to do until the verylast second.
On a count of three, I'm going to say what you need to do and
you need to do it immediately oryou're disqualified. 123 Kiss

(02:10:17):
the man next to you. What?
So in true Mead infested Dave Jariesque fashion, I grabbed the
man next to me and went on a full lip lock with him.

(02:10:38):
Naked in a fucking kilt. And if I'm going to do this, I'm
going to do it right. You're there, you're committed,
right? So out of my side eye, I noticed
that the other two dudes stoppedand the guy that I was kissing
kind of backed. Like I could feel, you know,
like when you go to hug somebody, you're like, then you

(02:10:59):
just feel like the, the. Presence.
The US the the arms loosened, soyou know that the hug is over,
right? So I went over, grabbed a dude
full on lip lock, looked over and I saw that the other two
just did like a little Peck and I'm fucking held this.
Dude. You're like we're.
Winning this today. So it's probably like a good 8

(02:11:21):
seconds I would say. And of course, we moved to the
final round. Now the final round was
basically just kind of like one last do whatever you got to do
to to win. Do a little show, do a jig,
Yeah. Whatever.
So the guy that I was with, you know, he was like, you know, did
like a little little twist or whatever.

(02:11:43):
And I just full on mooned the crowd.
And then I turned around and I went to go lift my, the front of
my skirt, right? And you just saw the people in
the front like, so I went to go do it and I'm like, you're all
sick fucks, right? And they all started laughing.

(02:12:05):
And then Dave Jerry won the kilt.
Wow. Yep.
So on your 51st birthday, you flew in a plane for the first
time. You kissed a man.
You mooned a crowd. Yep, everybody saw my nuts.
Everybody saw your nuts. Saw the twig and berries.
I you can't ask for more. No, there is more.

(02:12:27):
I don't know if you want to, I don't know.
If you like, you know what, let's just do it and then I'll
decide whether or not we keep itor.
Not OK, go ahead. All right, so the night didn't
end there. Wait, can we before you go on?
What happens? 51 years?
You thought you were a straight man.
You thought you you raised kids,you had a family.

(02:12:48):
What if that kiss changed your entire perspective?
Now I will say this. What if you just are a gay man?
And because I am comfortable with my sexuality, I'm OK with
saying this. Sure, for sure.
He was a pretty good kiss. Oh.
God. Dude.
His lips are his lips are soft. OK, so.

(02:13:12):
OK. However, that does not convert
me. OK, all right, I'm not.
I'm not converting. After that you.
Oh yeah, I still love vagina. OK.
Yep. Fair enough.
Yeah. All right, Keep going.
All right, so, yeah, so that basically finished the day at
the the Ren Fair. So on the way home, there is a
band that I know and they were playing at the casino.

(02:13:36):
Yep. That's yeah.
I don't know if we don't want tosay where, but yeah, so they're
playing at the casino. And I was like, you know, fuck
it, the night's still kind of young.
It's only, what, 9:00? You know I want to.
I'm young and spryeless. I want to go to I'm. 51 years
young. Yeah, I'm 51 years young.
I'm feeling good. I got the Meads going.

(02:13:57):
I got, you know, whatever. So we go to to the place and
we're there and, you know, there's a bunch of people I knew
there from like high school and stuff.
That friend and I went to schoolwith was celebrating a 50th
birthday. So her and all her friends were
there and it was just a good time.
Everybody's having, you know, fun and we're dancing and stuff.

(02:14:17):
And, you know, I had my beer in my hand and, you know, do do do
it. And somebody went by and hit my
hand and then boom, there goes the beer smash.
Smash right in the middle of everybody.
Right in the middle of the dancefloor.
So I'm like, oh, fuck. All right, So I kind of like was
telling all right, everybody kind of back up, you know,
because they're going to come clean up the glass and stuff.
And so me and, you know, one of my friends were picking up the

(02:14:39):
glass from the floor. Next thing I know, somebody
grabs my shirt from behind and Yanks me right.
And I'm like, the fuck. So I turn around and I grabbed
his shirt and I'm like, what thefuck are you doing, right?

(02:15:01):
Next thing you know, I have an arm around my neck, somebody
grabbing my other arm, and I am now being escorted out of the
establishment and I'm just like what the actual fuck just
happened, right? You you grab the bouncer not

(02:15:23):
knowing and you got jumped. However, if you are going if you
are working as security or something in an establishment.
Or a bouncer. Yeah, a bouncer.
Yeah. Identify yourself first and
foremost, Like, hey, bud, whatever just happened, we're as
an establishment, we're just going to say can you please

(02:15:46):
leave? Yeah, if that was the case,
sure, no problem. I'm good.
I had a good time. Yeah, it was fun all.
Right pH two season you start walking out.
Right, thank you. But when you go up to somebody.
And grab them from. Behind and grab them with
intention, you know, and you don't identify yourself and I
don't know who the fuck you are or what you're doing or why

(02:16:08):
you're fucking grabbing me because I didn't do anything
bad. Somebody just hit my hand and my
drink. Fell.
Yeah, but in their eyes, they just saw somebody.
Smash and Smash. A bottle, yeah.
Right, which is understandable in hindsight.
However, the whole process of how it happened could have been
handled much more differently. They don't do that though.

(02:16:29):
Bouncers always jump you. Yeah, 'cause you know they.
Save videos all the time. Casey used to you ever.
That's how you handle it, right?You just grab that.
You guys would grab the guy and take off.
No. You would identify yourself.
Almost always you that's just how we did it.
I, you know, usually be me. I would go up to the the people
because when you if there's a conflict brewing.

(02:16:50):
If people, if people don't remember, Casey used to be the
head of security at an establishment.
Yeah, so his. Family used to own the
establishment it it. It was always obvious, like
whenever there was a conflict between parties, you could see
it brewing, you know? And we had people.
There was just a guy that watched this part of the bar or
a guy watching this part of the bar and this guy watch that part
of the bar. And there you go.

(02:17:11):
Hey, we got maybe something going on here and you do it.
It's like baseball. You warn both sides.
You say, hey, we're aware of your situation, Chill out, you
know, OK, OK. And a lot of times people will
be like, OK, that's fair. We're just here to have a good
time. Most of the time they would,
they would just, you know, they keep doing their thing and they
just keep poking each other. And then, you know, usually

(02:17:31):
before anything happens, you go,all right, you're clearly the,
the, the aggressor here because you keep going up to these other
people and bothering them. So I'd you'd go up to them and
you'd say, hey, I need to talk to you at the front door, right?
And sometimes they would listen to you, sometimes they don't.
And you go, no, I need to talk to you at the front door or we
need to go somewhere quiet or whatever.
And usually you try to get them to go either out the side door

(02:17:53):
or whatever. And that's when you pounce them
because, and I'm not saying we jumped them and started beating
the crap. I don't know you, you, you would
take them into the, the, the hallway or up to the front or
whatever. And that's where all the
bouncers were. And you'd say, all right,
you're, you're gone for the night.
And if for some reason they did anything crazy, you just, hey,
fight in the back bar or whatever.

(02:18:13):
Everyone would just show up and then we'd carry you out.
Right, you know, but there's butthere's a reason why you're
showing up. We're obviously you're someone
is fighting yeah right, but but until that time, if you just see
something happen you. I yeah, you talk to.
Them you listen? Yeah, Now, yes.
If there's a fight going on, you're not, you're not
identifying yourself, you're just jumping and right.
And pulling, but in this situation.

(02:18:33):
There, that wasn't. Going on, there was no fight,
Yeah, there was no violent acts.There was no warnings.
There was no nothing. We're simply having amazing time
dancing to one of my my favoritebands and someone bumped into my
hand and my drink dropped right.And some guy just went.
Next thing you know, I'm being grabbed and stuffed and.
Well, the thing that probably triggered the rest of them was

(02:18:55):
you turning around and grabbing that poor guy who he probably
thought real fast. He was like, oh shit, when
'cause I know you when you get that like that little bit of.
Fucking. And it's not that I'm a violent
person because I am the least violent person.
You you probably know. However, I am a man of a certain

(02:19:16):
age. However, you know, if I feel
that someone is being a threat to me, I'm going to respond
accordingly. Yeah, and, and as the, as the
bouncers or whatever, like you're the sober ones.
You're supposed to be the sober ones.
Like you should. You got to anticipate how people
are going to react. And if you're if you got a few
in you, you're going to, you know, some people are aggressive

(02:19:39):
when they drink, some people aren't.
I've had it where I was trying to break up a fight.
You know, one guy was on top of another guy and you know, he's
just whatever. And you know, you just, you're
trying to pull him off and the buddy behind his buddy behind
you, you don't. I didn't know he was there.
He grabbed me and then he punched me.
And it wasn't until he turned mearound and after he was done

(02:20:00):
hitting me that he realized I was the bouncer, you know,
because he just saw me from behind as far as he was
concerned. His buddy was getting attacked.
His buddy was getting attacked by another guy.
Did you have a fully labeled shirt that said security?
Yeah. Well, it's his staff on it.
OK, yeah. So this, no, this guy had
nothing. No, no plain clothes.
I had no idea who he was. Yeah, and, and some some bars
are like that, but yeah, we had shirts and everything and

(02:20:20):
whatever. And now he hit me and I'm with
my team. And so after I got hit,
everybody jumps on this guy. That guy actually got messed up.
But and you know, it's stuff happens.
You know it's just a a mess, right?
Usually when it you know. Yeah, that I can understand.
Yeah. Like if I was in a full on fight
with somebody, like I get it, I'm.

(02:20:42):
But no, but you were that guy. You were the guy that, you know,
you were just doing your thing. You got grabbed by somebody.
Yeah. And you didn't know what was
going on. So you just thought you were
getting attacked by somebody? Yeah, what the?
Hell, and it wasn't, it wasn't until afterwards that you
realized that was the bouncer, you know?
So, yeah. And so that's I, I think that's
on them. You know, they they should
either have something that identifies them as the doorman

(02:21:02):
or you talk to people. You know you can do that.
So right. I don't think the casino people
talk to people, no, I think theyjust they deal now in in
bouncers and people that work inthe.
Industry. I'm not it.
Probably gets so fucking old andyou just get fed.
Eject them. That's fine.
You can eject them, but you can still talk to them.
You don't, you know, if I want to eject you from the bar, I'm
not going to come up to you and just grab you and take you.

(02:21:23):
Yeah, right. I'm going to say, hey, you're
you're ejected. You're you're out for the night,
right? Come back another day.
But tonight's not your night. Right.
Yeah, you're not banned. I I used to bounce at A at an
establishment and yeah, I was the same way as you, Casey.
There was a couple times where the owner would be like, hey, he
needs to go. I'm like, all right, so I'll go

(02:21:45):
up to the guy. I'd be like, hey, bud, sorry,
you're done for the night, you know, and usually it's OK, my
bad. Let me get my friends.
OK, See you later. Sometimes it's like, what?
Fuck. And then you're like now you.
Don't. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to tell you whatever
happens next is based on how youyou react to it.

(02:22:07):
And like I said, a lot of the times you knew if, if you know,
if you were going to take a guy out, if he was going to be, you
know, an issue or you know, you know, an aggressor or something
like that. And you would just make sure you
have people to, to do whatever to get them out.
You know, because you know, someguys are, you know they're crazy
and you know they, they do crazystuff.

(02:22:28):
So mooned an audience. Wounded audience, Yeah, showed.
The twigs and berries went golfing.
Went golfing? Yeah, did.
Golf flew to Florida. Flew.
Flew to Florida. Yeah, and got in a bar fight.
No kidding. I'm.
Kidding. I'm kidding.
Not a bar fight got thrown out. Of got removed.
We have removed from from an establishment.
What 851 dude? What a 51?

(02:22:51):
What a way to? Cap the night.
Yeah, so they actually said they're like because I because
when I was outside finally. You got to explain.
Yourself, one of the guys was like like, you know, hold on,
we're just getting all the information and I'm like,
listen, if you guys wanted me toleave, all you had to do was
just say bro, it's time to go. I have no problem with that.
You know, I had a good time, I'mgood.

(02:23:13):
However, can you tell your people that if they are going
to? In the future, yeah.
And, you know, come across this situation again to identify
themselves because if that guy grabbed me and be like, hey, I'm
security or hey, bud, you got togo.
I would have went, yeah, but he grabbed me and pulled me without

(02:23:34):
saying anything. So my first reaction is to react
in kind, right? Like, who the fuck are you?
Like, let's fucking establish this first.
Yeah, who are you? Right, first of all, and why are
you putting your hands on me when I'm just standing here?
So. And they're like, and they're
like, Nope, we get it, We get it.
That's why you know. And it goes the same way for for

(02:23:56):
them too. Like you can't be the aggressor,
right? You know you can't just run up
as a bouncer and just start wailing on.
Something there's some bouncers that think they are they they
get off and I get that they. Do it solely for the power trip.
Yeah. And but that comes back to the
bar and you're just putting my ability on them, you know?
So you have to, you know, if twopeople are fighting, then you
can engage to break them up, butyou can't take it to the next

(02:24:18):
step, you know? Right.
So, so basically in a nutshell, they sewed a glass on the floor.
They didn't know what it was. They're just like, get that guy
out. And then I'm not realizing that
somebody hit the glass out of myhand.
Not that it was a violent act oranything, but someone just went
on a dance floor. Someone hit the hand, glass
fell. Oh, crap.
And they're like, all right, everything's cool, we're good.

(02:24:41):
No problems, no issues. You're welcome to come back
whenever you want tonight. Just go home.
Yeah, no problem. I got that.
Thank you. So yeah, yeah. 51.
Nice. Yeah, buddy.
So. Well, I'm glad nobody got hurt.
Nobody went to jail. Yeah.
No, no, no, no. It's all good.
It's all good, all good. I'm I'm done.

(02:25:04):
I'm ready to go. I wanna go to blank next.
Week, Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I wanna go to next week,
Yeah. People are gonna be disappointed
we didn't have Sure is, I don't.Know honestly though real quick
real quick before you before youstart Mossad is like the CIA was
back in the 50s yeah I kind of they're kind of gangsters bro
you gotta they're kind of dope it's.

(02:25:24):
Who is who is Mossad there? Is there's really CIA there?
Is really. But it's this.
The. But if we if, if Israel is
surrounded by enemies, you know,of course they're going to be
doing. Crazy.
They're they're nuts. They're nuts.
Like during the pager. Thing Yeah, of course we're
going to be nuts because we're dealing with Russia and the.
Pager thing was wild. And all of communism.

(02:25:44):
You heard about the pager thing,right?
The what? The pager thing that they did
the. Blows up or something?
Yeah, they gave them pagers like20 years ago.
Yeah, it wasn't that or it was something.
It was like it was years. They played the long.
It was years they were playing the.
Long they gave them pagers that were that had explosives in them
like years ago. And then once they realized all
that the the top, whatever the top yeah, they Hamas leaders had

(02:26:07):
them. They just went and they
exploded. The one of the one of the crazy,
one of the, I think Iranian journal.
I don't know some really important guy that they didn't
like. They had put a bomb like in his.
In his house. Oh shit for.
For years, like for a long time,I don't.
They went there early, they knewhe was going to come back here
eventually. They said no when and they just

(02:26:29):
sat on it. And they put a bomb in the and
then when? He showed up finally they.
They blew up the house. They blew up the house.
That's. What I'm saying, they're like
the CIA back in the 50s when they were fucking.
Doing whatever. Yeah, alright.
Alright, go ahead. But anyway, yeah, so.
All right that'll do it for thisepisode of chat suey.
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(02:26:51):
Thank you all for hanging out with us once again I am Dave
Jarry. I'm.
Gary Quarter and I'm Casey Moore.
And we are out of here.

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