March 31, 2025 • 53 mins
On this episode, we’ll talk about a man who befriended a cat named Dasha, who he claims, instructed him to not only commit murder, but to also commit gruesome and disgusting atrocities to their bodies.
PLUS: A Florida woman and her dog em"bark" on a journey to become content creators. Thank you Christine Rivera for this news clip.
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(00:01):
In this episode, we'll talk about a man who befriended a cat
named Dasha, who he claims instructed him to not only
commit murder, but to also commit gruesome and disgusting
atrocities to their bodies. I'm Dave Jarry.
And I'm Garrett Corder and. This is criminal as.
(00:26):
What's good all you fuckers, criminals and true crime
douchebags out there and we're back with a long-awaited episode
of Criminal AF. Once again I'm Dave Jarry and
finally with me is my Co host Garrett Corner.
How we doing? It's so great to be back in
front of the mic and bringing you another fucked up episode.
(00:49):
Before we jump into all the fun today, we just need to go over a
few things that are regarding criminal AF.
This is your first time joining us.
You're about to experience some unfiltered storytelling with a
lot of fucking cuss words. With that being said, we'll
discuss some pretty horrific, tragic stories that involve
murder, rape. Ah.
(01:13):
And torture, Yes, and we will not shy away from the most
gruesome of details, regardless of how disgusting they may be.
Now, we understand that criminalact may not be for everyone, and
that's OK. We just ask that you at least
give it a listen if it's not foryou.
Thanks for checking it out. See you.
But if it is, welcome to the debauchery.
(01:35):
Hey, Garrett. Yeah, Bud.
What do you say we go down to Florida?
What the fuck's going on on the Florida fuck is?
Going on, on the Florida, Yeah, yeah, here it is.
(01:57):
There he goes. Yeah, he's done.
All right, this wouldn't be criminal AF without a little bit
of beastiality to be. Honest.
Oh boy, here we go. So we're going to go down and
take it to a Florida woman today.
Florida woman arrested for sexual assault of a Chihuahua
selling videos on Snapchat. No.
A Florida woman went to shockinglengths to make $500 in a recent
(02:19):
Facebook post. What?
Are we doing? The Marion County Sheriff's
Office revealed that they'd arrested a 27 year old Logan
Gaminsky for making and selling a video of herself engaging in a
sexual act with one of her dogs.Officers received an anonymous
(02:40):
tip claiming that Gaminsky. How do you say?
That Gaminsky posted the graphicvideo in a January purple the
post, according to an arrest report obtained by Ocala News.
I fucking knew it was Ocala. They are a a a frequent flyer in
this in this segment. The tip included the 32 second
video in question. The clip allegedly showed a
(03:01):
brown and white Chihuahua pictured on in the article,
licking the unclothed vagina of a white female, the outlet
reported. Wait, wait, wait.
An unclothed with with so like alike a vagina.
I think it's unclothed. Unclothed.
Unclothed. OK.
Kaminsky allegedly utilized her hand to manually manipulate her
(03:21):
vagina, and she coerced the dog to continue its act by petting
it. OK, and she posted that on
Facebook for free? Wait, what?
It was a Facebook post. No, that's.
What it said on here, maybe it was a teaser to the Snapchat,
you know what I mean? You know, like.
We didn't get the full video. Amid their investigation,
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detectives confirmed Kaminsky was the person in the video.
They also located several photosand videos of her with the
abused animal, according to Facebook post.
Two months later, Gaminsky was questioned by detectives during
the interview, and Gaminsky classified herself as a content
creator. It's like us that's like us.
Yeah, we're caught. Yeah.
Where's my Chihuahua? Wait, Beretta.
Oh, stop it. Who makes sexual, explicit
(04:04):
photos and videos to sell online?
Per the Post, Kaminsky admitted to sharing the video in question
with another user who requested its creation.
Oh, somebody wanted it. Oh shit.
The user The user allegedly paid$500.00 for this disturbing
clip. Additionally, Kaminsky allegedly
said that she had been involved in sexual activity with another
dog. She said that the videos of both
incidents were stored on her cell phone.
(04:25):
Another dog? Yeah.
Really. She's a frequent flyer.
Kaminsky was placed under arrestfor sexual activity involving a
animal and filming sexual activity involving an animal and
transported to the Marion CountyJail.
She was released in the following day on a $10,000 bond.
Woo. That's OK, all right.
To be fair though, with the way Ocala has gone in these
(04:48):
segments, I would have thought they'd pass on the bestiality
law. You would think that that's a
common thing down. There, you would think it'd be
it'd be good. Legal or not legal, but just,
you know, yeah, maybe a little fine or something.
Nothing I. Mean with the whole thing like
is. Is there a is there a state in
the United States that B Seattlebestiality is legal?
(05:08):
That's that's, that's a good question.
That's a good, good, good Casey.Casey, you know again, I.
Like I don't have enough buttonsto push back.
You would you would think in today's day, in 2025, that
somebody would be able to fuck an animal.
I right, 'cause you got like, you got the furries, right?
The furries, they. Yeah, but.
(05:29):
They pretend they. I don't know, I heard that high
schools have actual fucking litter boxes in their fucking
bathrooms. Whoa, there is a state.
West Virginia. West Virginia.
West Virginia is the only state that does not have a law
prohibiting feastiality. Really.
OK, Wow. All right.
Oh man. Oh, speaking Speaking of West
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Virginia. Mama.
Did I ever correct myself from when we talked about the
Mountain Dew? No.
No, it was actually Kentucky. Oh.
It started. Mountain Dew, No, Kentucky has
the highest consumption of Mountain Dew.
That kind of track. I thought it was West Virginia.
So I apologize to all of our West Virginians.
Have you ever seen the movie? The West Virginia, West
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Virginia, West Virginia, West Virginia did.
You ever watch the documentary the the Wild Whites?
Yes. Which she was like when she's a
Taco Bell blind and she's like they took her baby.
If for the listeners, if you guys haven't seen the wild
white, the what is it? Well, I forgot what.
It's called the Wild Lights of West Virginia.
(06:30):
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, Go.
Watch that documentary, it'll make you feel better about the
worst white trash that you have in your family, I promise.
You. Oh my God.
Yeah. So anyway, so yeah.
So apologize to our W Virginian listeners.
It's actually Kentucky, you fucking weirdo.
Fucking it makes sense, though. It's at the end of the
Appalachians, you know what I mean?
They're coming down the mountains at that point.
(06:51):
Right. Yeah.
They got they got off the the weird trail.
By then, yeah, but I mean, all right, going back to your story,
like with the with the prominence of of furries
nowadays, you know, people who, who, who identify as an animal.
A lot of those I see. It's a misconception though that
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a lot of them have sex in their costumes.
It's not true. They're just weird.
I've seen videos. Well, yeah, but that's it's a
niche porn category for sure. But.
A lot of those people that go tothe conventions and stuff are
just weird. They just like, yeah, have you
ever seen the the girls who weartails and shit nowadays?
Like there's a girl in my daughter's school that wears a
tail and then a clefarian. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
(07:34):
wait, wait, wait. What?
What kind of tail? It's no, it's not that kind of
tail that'd. Be a little like a butt blood
tail. No, they disagree.
They have like clip on tails andthey walk around on all fours.
Oh wait, what? Yeah, they're called Clefarians.
So she walks around all fours? Yeah, in the school.
Tends to be a cat. In the school, yeah.
Like like grooms herself and shit.
All right, Do they have litter boxes in the bathroom?
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No, I don't think so. I don't, I would hope.
You might want to, yes. I would hope not.
Because there there are schools in our area that have litter
boxes in their bathrooms. That's a big thing for kids
nowadays. Like there's a couple kids that
do that. It's really weird.
That'll be another episode. When I was in middle school that
that poor girl would have been harassed and thrown.
(08:14):
Oh my God. Thrown.
In a locker. Yeah, that'll be an episode for
our new, our new upcoming episode here.
Oh, here we go. All right, All right, breaking
news. So we're all sitting here
talking Casey Garrett and myself, and we're like, you
know, hey, what, what kind of content can we actually like,
(08:37):
bring out to more people and kind of like expand, you know
what we, what we do here? Yeah, because we have some
people who are like, oh, only stick to the story of the, of
the crime. And there's other people like we
really enjoy the banter between between all of you.
And so we're like, well, how canwe do both?
(08:58):
You know what I mean? So we are going to be coming out
with another, another podcast and you ready?
I'm. Ready.
You ready? I'm ready.
All right, here it is. The new podcast.
It'll be called Respectfully disrespectful and the claps and
(09:20):
the claps and the claps and the claps.
All right, ready to. Go respectfully disrespectful.
Yeah, Casey. Well.
You know I'm. Still, we're still working
things out here through this because all right, here we go.
I got it. All right.
Respectfully disrespectful. There it is.
All right. Yeah.
Congratulations. Yeah.
(09:41):
Here we go. That's really a lot.
Yeah. That goes a long time.
All right. So basically we're going to do,
we're going to continue criminalAF when when, you know, an
interesting story comes up. But we're also going to branch
off and do a separate podcast where we're just going to talk
(10:03):
about a bunch of shit. Yeah, for sure.
You know, kind of like current event shit.
Week in review esque. Right.
Kind of like shit that's going on in this world and and also,
you know, come up with some somesegments that are pretty fucking
crazy. I also think that we have tried
to play our podcast politically correct to not offend people and
this one's not going to be like that.
(10:24):
So if you get affected easy juststick with criminal AFI guess
and. You know, and not so much
political, I mean. Everything.
We're going to push a lot of buttons, hence the name.
Respectfully disrespectful because you know, you might be,
you might feel disrespected. Respectfully, respectfully, but.
You know what I mean? Respectfully, you might be a
(10:45):
piece of shit. With all the respect, no
offense, it's just like, hey, you know, this is what it is.
Me and Dave talked about it. Criminal left was still our
baby. Well, it started as Dave's baby,
but it blossomed into a beautiful adopted child for me.
Yes. Yeah.
And I don't want to get rid of it, even though you know.
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you. I'm with you.
I I enjoy, I enjoy the stories that we talk about, you know,
(11:08):
especially like the most fucked up ones where an 18 year old
killed his mother and fucked herbrain, you know, you know,
those, those kind of stories still kind of intrigue me, you
know what I mean? Yeah, there's.
There's something about entrailsbeing sucked out while you stand
underneath a dead body that just, you know, really strikes
the. Correct, Correct.
That didn't come up. That didn't come up on the
thing. So yeah, Nope.
(11:30):
I also think that with the Criminal AF podcast, there was a
lot of research and effort that went into it.
Yeah, it was difficult to do allthat work and get content out
regularly. Correct.
And the hope is with this new podcast, we can just do it, do
it more freely. There's gonna be, it's gonna be
(11:51):
more loose. There's gonna be probably a lot
of mistakes and pauses and mumbling and bumbling, but.
It'll be fun, but all of the. Crazy shit that we've cut out of
criminal A that you guys haven'tseen.
We'll now be. We'll now be in this, Yeah.
Yeah, we won't be as polished and therefore it should come
out. More authentic, yeah.
Yeah, 'cause we're sitting theretalking, 'cause you know, we did
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a lot of self reflection over these past.
Well, I mean, to be honest, Daveleft stuff like just got up and
left for us to try. To make we should we should
cover the reason why there. Was I did cover, did you guys
tell these people what happened,why Criminal EF was gone?
Yeah, I put out a, a, a. Solo a written notice.
No, no, nobody read I. I put out a solo episode that
kind of explained everything, sort of.
(12:34):
So. So basically, yes, I got
promoted at work. Oh, he got promoted.
Here. He's Garrett's boss now.
Yeah. He's both of our master, yeah.
So, so it by with with that promotion, it put me on a
totally opposite schedule as Garrett and Casey.
(12:54):
So while they were working, I was off while I was off there,
you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
So, I mean, I've seen these guysoutside of work in the past
eight months maybe twice. Twice. 2 times maybe?
Two times and it wasn't. For a long time.
No it. Was like hey I got today off for
some reason. Right.
Like hey, I took the and. The last thing we wanted to do
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after I haven't seen Dave, obviously you guys know how
close I am with him, was do a podcast.
I just wanted to go hang out with the guy.
Right, yeah. So, you know, but now we're back
on the same team, we're ready togo.
We're kicking this off. And and like I said, you know,
we have some time to reflect where, you know, doing a true
crime podcast as, as Casey was saying, it's like you have to
(13:35):
have your facts straight. Yeah, you have to have your
information correct. Or people will.
Blow you up, right. So there's a lot of, you know,
fact checking, you know, there's, there's getting your
sources and then sourcing those sources just to make sure you
have your shit correct. And, and to be perfectly honest,
with a full time schedule, our my days off, we're going into
(13:57):
solely researching and writing episodes, which is extremely
demanding, you know what I mean?So we're like, yeah, let's,
let's continue doing criminal AFand we will.
And you know, we'll have more episodes coming out.
I already have like 3 or 4 already lined up.
So those, those will continue. But we're like, let's just do a
(14:18):
podcast where we can just come in, talk about.
We can, we can pull something out once a week where it
doesn't. It's not so demanding, right?
We can still make content weeklyfor people that actually like us
and don't aren't just solely focused on the on.
The true crime? On the true crime aspect and
then every now and again you guys get we'll sneak in a
criminal AF there to keep the fans.
So, so yeah, so respectfully disrespectful.
(14:41):
We'll be rolling out here relatively soon, probably in the
next month or so. And you know, once, once we do
that, we'll, we'll post links and, and hopefully you guys will
who enjoy us, you know, we'll jump over to that podcast and
follow along as well. Yeah, we have to be careful what
we say now though, because our boss is in the same room as us.
(15:05):
That's right, mother fucker. And I think we're respectfully
disrespectful. Will be pretty fun because we're
going to do like skits and yeah,like, yeah, fake commercials and
all sorts of yeah, it's going tobe all over the place.
Just have fun with it for sure. And it's, and it's like, it's
like, like I said, it's not going to be as demanding as, as
you know, Criminal AF will be. And, and hopefully that fun and
(15:27):
that enjoyment and everything comes out in the new episodes.
So but yeah, Criminal AF is not going away, but we're going to
be jumping over to. Don't, yeah, don't expect every
an episode of Criminal AF every week, basically.
That's. What we're saying, yeah, yeah,
yeah, it will be back, but. But keep it on that notification
bar by the way, because it's there will be every now and
again. 100% and I don't know if you can see on Garrett's camera
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here. Can we switch over to Garrett,
Vanessa? Do we remember Vanessa from the
from the last episode? We covered up her nipples.
We put pasties on her and now she's part of the background.
Yep, now she's here. We're going to we're going to
get her own shelf. So so and we've still got we've
still got Ed camper over here and for from Stu Muertos from he
(16:13):
sent us that that was good. So if you guys, hey, if you guys
have anything you want to send us, you know, just let us
message us on IG or, or they. Didn't even say that.
We're going to keep the same segments, We're going to keep
mail call, we're going to keep true crime douche bags.
We're going to do all that fun stuff.
Yep. Yeah.
So that's the. Advice.
Advice too. Yeah, that was always fun.
(16:34):
Yep. So we're going to keep like
Garrett said, like Florida Man mail call, that's all going to
go to respectfully, respectfullydisrespectful.
You're right, Casey. Yeah, it's a little a little
tough to say, but well, it's going to add other segments like
Confessions. You know, there's a segment out
there for there's some wild shitthat people confess to.
(16:55):
There's some. Good reddits?
Subreddits. For those ones, it's good.
It's good. So yeah.
Anyway, enough about that. Yeah.
Yeah, you'll see. It when it comes out, yeah.
So we're going to jump right into this story about a man who
befriended a cat named Dasha, and Dasha told him that'd be a
great idea to start murdering people.
But it didn't just end with murder.
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It went much further, much more disgustingly further.
So without further ado, let's get to this story starting
right. Meow, meow.
So let me paint you a picture. All right?
There are a few men sitting in adark, dimly lit room.
One of the men sits in the corner, anxiously smoking a
(17:40):
cigarette down to the filter, jotting down notes as fast as
you can as two other men appear to be jovial, having a light
hearted chat. They just met like a couple of
days ago, but they've developed a good rapport, possibly even a
friendship, over the course of their time together.
And today's conversation focuseson how to prepare food.
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OK, one of the men asks, have you ever tried this one?
First you fry meat in one of thesauce pans in a little bit of
oil. Liver is actually the best.
Then in another pan you find youfry the onions, put them
together with either stock or water, and simmer for half an
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hour. So this meeting between the two
men and the conversation they were having could have been held
in literally any kitchen, pantryor cafe anywhere in the world.
But this particular meeting was held on the second floor of
Detention Center 45 Five, located in Saint Petersburg,
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Russia. Ohio, you had to say it was a
Russian prison. In the base.
That that's we already know where this is going, yeah.
So one of the men was Doctor Valeri Ivanov, a court appointed
psychiatrist assigned to task, assigned to the task of learning
as much as you can about the mansitting across from him. 35 year
old Ilshat Kusovkov, also known as Igor.
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Now, hey, I'd go by Igor too if my name was Ilshat.
Like, hey, I'll shit my pants like I shit my pants.
Oh man. All right, so anyway, Ilshat was
more than happy to tell Doctor Ivanov like his many ways of
preparing food, which consisted of human flesh with the liver
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ripped out from his victim's still warm body with his band
hands, which was actually his favorite.
Now, Kusakov was particularly was particular of the parts of
the body he would consume. He would never eat from the
elbows or knees down, nor would he eat the head, bowels or
genitalia. That makes sense though, yeah.
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I mean, look at look at cuts of meat.
Yeah, you know, he, he, he had his like, you know.
What's the what's the what's thecheese head cheese?
Ramunda, OH. No head cheese, Have you?
Have you ever tried Ramunda? Have you ever tried head cheese?
No. Have you ever seen it?
I. It's.
A gelatin. Yeah, head cheese isn't cheese.
No, it's like a bunch of scrap meat that's on like the butcher
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floor that they just put together in a gelatin.
Right, but. All those pieces you don't want?
Nobody wants to eat those piecesin of regular meat.
Humans, probably the exact same way.
And let's call it cheese. Yeah, OK.
Now he would focus mainly on theupper limbs, quads, glutes,
biceps, triceps, shoulders and of course, the liver.
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Now, when police searched his home, he had the forearms and
calves of his last victim in garbage bags waited to be
disposed of. So how did the two men come to
cross paths in this stuffy, windowless interrogation room?
And how did Kusakov come to learn how to prepare his
favorite dishes of human flesh? Now let's start from the
(20:58):
beginning. Yeah, Ilshak Kusakov was born
February 27th, 1960 in Tajikistan.
Tajikistan. Which is, which was then part of
the Soviet Union. He gets a window for my lamp.
I get a window. He had one brother and their
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father was described as a tyrant.
He would repeatedly and severelybeat the boy's mother, which
ultimately led to her death in 1973, allegedly in front of
Kusakov, who was around the age of 10, I'm sorry, who was around
the age of 12 or 13 at the time.He would later say that after
this event, he lost the ability to feel compassion and the
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ability to be disgusted by blood.
After his mother's murder, he and his brother were adopted by
their aunt, and it was around this time that Kusakov began an
incestuous relationship with hisbrother.
Right around. I mean, we talk about it all the
time on this podcast. 12 to 13. Yep, whatever your kink is fucks
you up real good. There it is, go fuck your
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brother now. He became so enthralled with
everything to do with the human body he set his sights on
becoming a surgeon. But he was not the most studious
student, so that true that dream's soon dissipated.
Meow, this obsession with the stop the meow, this obsession
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with the body would lead to a particular kink where he would
ejaculate at the sight of anything to do with it.
His porn of choice. Watching surgery documentary
documentaries on TV. Lunatic.
Yeah. That's very damaresque.
You know how he like used to getturned on by the shininess of
organs? Yeah, Yep.
(22:49):
Very same, same niche. So yeah, so any surgery
document, why can't I fucking say that word?
Documentary. Documentary You're. 3 Ipas in.
That's why you can't say the. Word.
I'm about to be 4 in a second. Yeah, he would just fucking get
a boner and just whack off to it.
That's interesting. So Kuzhkov, He went on to study
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to become a welder in postgrad school, but he flunked out and
in 1980, at the age of 20. Wait, question?
Yep. How do you flunk out of welding
school like. Because you're not.
Good. No, but like I get funking out
because you're not good at welding, but it's all like when
I hear flunked out, I think of tests.
(23:32):
Is there tests? Casey might know he went to
trade school. Is there tests like written
tests in welding? I would think that there's
theory behind it. Because I thought it was like,
whenever I see the videos of welders, it's like their tests
are like, hey, make AU joint, make this, make this.
And then they look at the welds and they say, all right, you
passed. Yeah, I didn't know you can.
(23:53):
I didn't know there was actual tests.
Yeah, I I with most with most trade schools.
With most, with most, with most and he's the sober 1 here.
Well, with most trade schools, there's the, you know, the
theory side of it where you do classroom work, you have to do
so many hours, right? And then there's the actual
practical, you know? Testing.
(24:14):
Yeah, it probably is. Like what?
How many degrees does it take toburn your finger or whatever?
What I do know is welding is a lot harder than people make it
out to be. Right.
That's why they big bucks guys in our job like the underwater
welders and shit. Those those guys make a killing.
Oh yeah, the divers, yeah. Oh fuck yeah.
Make a killing. Yeah, Good.
(24:34):
OK, I'm just. I was curious.
I didn't know how you flunk out.I didn't know there was tests
during welding school. I thought you just learned how
to Weld. Right.
Yeah, I would think that more most likely you're going to fail
out on the practical piece like not being able to do a good Weld
and things like that. So.
Interesting. Interesting indeed.
Any welders out there let us know how hard was your final?
(24:58):
All right, so we just took a little quick break.
I had to go upstairs to to use the restroom and hey, actually
girl. Just my boxers.
OK, when I was upstairs. Yeah, Layla, she has a friend
over. Let's not talk about it.
Who happened to be a young, young gentleman.
(25:19):
I don't. Know just they're in fucking 5th
grade man. OK, well, I will say that he
came up to me and he introduced himself as, whatever his name
was, fifth graders. Don't need boyfriends and
girlfriends. He has a crush on her.
Yeah, yeah. So immediately I went to
Grayson, Yeah. And I'm like.
Her brother, by the way. Yeah, her brother, Leila's
brother. And I was like, bro, like, what
(25:41):
kind of brother are you? Like, you need to be like, on
top of this shit, like, you needto be like, monitoring, like
who? Who's this random guy from the
neighborhood hanging out with your sister?
I get where you're going, you know what I mean?
But he's also the younger brother.
He doesn't give a shit, no. He's sitting there playing.
Older brother. He's sitting there playing his
fucking Game Boy, whatever the fuck is The thing is, and he's
(26:01):
like, yeah, I don't care. And I'm like, bro, what the hell
are you, you know. But anyway, yeah, that was.
Me mate, I already Laila's doesn't even she's like yeah he
has a crush on me but whatever. Yeah, So what?
What you're you're a, you came back, you're adjusting your
nuts. So I agree, are you a boxer or a
brief guy? Well, boxer brief.
(26:24):
Yeah, boxer briefs, yeah, I, I just call those briefs.
There's underwear, briefs and. You like Whitey tighties?
No, I like briefs. This is too much.
Like there's too much room. Down there you have so you're.
Wearing like old traditional like.
Boxers, Boxers. OK.
Everything's just dangling. I don't like it.
Sorry. All right.
All right, that's your thing. Yeah.
No, no, I like briefs, OK. I like briefs.
(26:46):
Boxers don't, I don't think. Yeah, I'm not a big boxer fan.
I don't like hanging. Are you a TikTok shop guy?
Do you order stuff off a TikTok shop?
Some things, yeah. I mean, if I see, it's usually
the dumbest fucking shit in the world.
Like it's like something I see on a TikTok and I'm like, Oh my
God, I got to have that. All right, so I actually I
ordered these boxer briefs from TikTok shop where you actually
(27:09):
so. With the question, was the ad a
dude wearing them? It was a mannequin.
Oh, OK. It was a mannequin wearing.
Sure, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, however.
All right, so these boxers, theyseparate the penis from the the
nut sack. Oh.
That would be nice though, yeah,Because you know how it gets all
mushed up together, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(27:30):
You know, like, yeah, yeah. Everything kind of just folds
into one, right? Yeah, yes.
So I actually. Wait, we're discussing, we're
giving these people shout outs and this is they're not even a
sponsor. No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not going to name that name who they are.
OK All right, So I ordered theseboxers off a TikTok shop, right?
And I'm like, that's interesting.
(27:51):
You keep your penis separate, separate from your from your
nutsack, right? So I got I got them in and dude,
they are silky fucking smooth first of all.
Right, like a good silky. Yeah.
So basically what happens is it has a hole in the boxer that
leads to a separate compartment of the boxer.
(28:13):
There's no way you you put your boxers on and you stick it
through the hole. Right, so basically you're
sticking your Dick through a cock ring.
That is ridiculous. That's built into the fucking
boxers, right? That's.
Weird. That's weird energy.
Listen, listen, just hear me out.
Listen, listen, listen. So you stick your Dick through
this, through this hole in the boxers, slash cock ring in the
(28:35):
boxers, and it puts your Dick into a separate compartment of
the box. That's so uncomfortable.
Let me tell you dude. There's no way you.
Are floating on a fucking cloud all.
Right, I got to try them. Your genitalia are just just.
That can be emasculating too, because what happens when you
get them in and they're like, the hole's really big.
You're like damn dude. Yeah, yeah.
(28:59):
It's like, damn, they don't havea smaller hole.
What the Hell's going on? Yeah, like that would be very
upsetting if I get the hole and it's just like, live down there.
All right, Where were we at withthe story?
Guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a different hold on,
just hold. On the respectfully
disrespectful conversation. Keep it.
Keep it on, Garrett. Hold on, My.
(29:20):
I got to turn my thing back on. Hold on.
Entertain the crowd, Yeah. Guys, I'm drinking a little
Maker's Mark in ginger ale. OK, actually there.
We go. All right, it's a smooth
buttery. Sorry, sorry.
Little live, live thing here. All right, so, all right, So
(29:42):
basically, where where were we? OK, so welding.
Kusakov. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kusakov. He flunked out of grad school.
All right, back to the story where we're bringing it back in.
All right, so in 1980, at the age of 20, he moved to Viiborg,
a city about 130 kilometers northwest of Saint Petersburg.
Saint Petersburg, Saint Petersburg to join to join the
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military. Now by 1982, Kusakov committed
his first known crime, which he attacked another man with a
wrench. Now he avoided jail time when he
was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and while he was
undergoing forced treatment at the psychiatric facility, he met
a woman, also a patient at the facility, who he would soon, who
(30:31):
would soon become his wife. That's nice.
It's a healthy. Nothing like 2 psych ward
patients marrying each other and.
Living healthy relationship, right?
Happily ever after. So when Kusakov was released
from the facility, he and his blushing bride.
They moved to Saint Petersburg where, surprisingly shocking,
the marriage quickly fell apart as he allegedly attacked her
(30:54):
with a knife. Now Kusakov applied to what
would be his dream job. He applied to what would become
his dream job, working at a morgue washing dead bodies.
Yeah, but was thanks for his interest and told to go fuck
himself. You are not welcome here.
He he was like the guy at our job we can't say much about, but
(31:16):
like when he was like, yeah, I love guns.
I fucking love guns. You know that like that type of
like way too overexcited. You're like, Nah, man, there's
something weird about this guy. Hey, how, how fresh are the dead
bodies? Are they frozen?
Do they like oh man, divide you off from this one?
So, unable to find any work other than menial labor jobs, he
settled in as a street sweeper. So lonely, he adopted a cat he
(31:42):
named Dasha, whom he absolutely adored.
Which is odd because Kusakov would later admit that he would
kill cats and dogs and eat them.Yeah.
But everybody has that person that they don't kill.
Right. Yeah, everybody has that.
That that one thing, right? So serial killers will, you
know, they'll be married. Married with kids.
Right. Married with kids, but they'll
(32:03):
go off and murder random women. Yeah, there's always.
Someone, some lucky person that has to escape by.
Which we talked about before. We've talked about it many.
Times, which is kind of offensive, like, what's wrong
with me? Like, yeah, am I not good enough
to kill? Yeah, you know what kind of
thing? Oh my God, I'm spacing out the
(32:24):
tapes. He sent his tape in.
Oh my God, he sent the tape intothe cops.
It was floppy disk and they fucking traced.
It back to. His wife, I remember we talked
about that like, oh, like, his wife was probably pissed.
Like, what the fuck? Yeah.
You couldn't kill me. Like what the fuck?
Like am I not good enough to be killed?
Good. Enough to be killed.
The psyche of All right keep. Going All right, so Kusakov was
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an outpatient at the Maritime Hospital, also known as a Saint
Nicholas the Wonder Worker Hospital in Saint Petersburg for
treatment for schizophrenia. It was during this time that he
made many friends, and he was said to be friendly and
talkative, discussing his favorite topics like animals and
cooking. Yeah, he was quite the chef.
(33:08):
So soon Kusakov would find himself having a conversations
with his beloved cat Dasha, whomhe claimed told him you should
probably go out and like, start murdering these people.
Trax makes sense. Schizophrenia is a wild
disorder. Yeah Meow in November of 1992.
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In November of 1992, the first of many disturbing discoveries
were made around Kusakov's neighborhood in Moskovski
District, located in the bleak section of Saint Petersburg.
I can see it now, just Gray buildings with sickles and
hammers all over the place. Right, broken out windows.
Yeah, everybody eating bread. Fur coats.
(33:55):
Like, just, yeah, all right, keep going.
Paint the picture for the audience.
They're they're fur hat fucking things.
Yeah, All right. So neighbors had discovered a
human torso in the basement of an abandoned house.
It was an open basement that many had used to dump refuse, so
there were no leads as to how the torso had gotten there, and
(34:15):
the case went cold. Three years later, on the same
St. in 1995, a driver noticed a human head in the neighborhood's
communal trash trash bin and thearms belonging to the same
person were later discovered in the remnants of a burnt out car.
A month later, in August of 1995, a woman named Olga
(34:38):
Petrovna was walking her dogs onthe same street when the dog
showed interest in an object in a trash pile and lo and behold,
it was another human head. The dogs must have smelled it.
Old Ogler replied. That was your best Russian
accent. I don't know.
Do you know Russian? The dogs must have smells.
(35:01):
No, I can't do it. It was horrible.
It was horrible. There were also jars.
OK, you give me my translator. They're also jars with other
stuff that I thought were just bits of meat.
You couldn't. Imagine it was human.
(35:23):
No, no, no. OK.
The three remains were all eventually identified as Sasha
Pechankin, age unknown, 37 year old Misha Botchkov and 43 year
old Edik Vasilevsky respectively.
(35:43):
All three were known to be part of the outpatient program at the
psychiatric hospital. Where was he living at this
point? Saint Petersburg.
I know, but like in a home. Yes, so were all.
Those people in and out of the like a halfway house basically
in. No, no, he had his own
apartment. OK.
I didn't know if because like they're all from the outpatient
facility of where he was. I mean, it's not rocket science
(36:06):
here. I mean, I know it's end of the
cold world of Russia, but maybe somebody could have figured out
that, you know, the outpatient, there's somebody in here that
was all connected. Right.
You would think that they would have a like sort of A at a
halfway house for psychiatric criminals that have been
(36:27):
diagnosed with schizophrenia. Like they don't just let them
move on into their apartment. Right.
Or if there was like some sort of register where people could.
The criminally insane. But a criminally insane oh, look
at this. So Saint Petersburg police went
to the hospital and checked the register.
(36:47):
They noticed another man's name along with Misha and edicts a
man by the name of Oh Shut My parents Kusakov.
OK. So police went to Kusakov's
apartment and noticed blood droplets leading up to the
stairs to his apartment. This guy is a This guy's a
regular Dexter, huh? So talking with the neighbors,
(37:12):
he just. Left blood going up to his
apartment. So the neighbors complained of a
rancid, rancid smell coming fromthe apartment.
So police they turned off the water to Kusakov's apartment and
posing as plumbers, knocked on his door to gain entry.
At first, Kusakov agreed to allow them into the apartment,
(37:32):
but never opened the door, and after a lengthy exchange of back
and forth communication, police forced entry into the home.
Igor's apartment looked and smelled like something out of a
horror movie. In a canvas bag near the door,
there were two human legs and two forearms.
Wow. The walls The walls were adorned
(37:55):
with posters of kittens and of actor Jean-Claude Van Damme.
That's actually fucking hilarious.
That's fucking great. That is hilarious.
That is great. He had like 17 posters of
Jean-Claude Van Damme. Why that those two things just
gave him some sort of joy and and, you know, he wasn't just
(38:18):
talking to Dasha, he was talkingto Gene Claude A. 100 percent,
100%. He was like, hey, Gene, do you
think I should eat his fucking liver?
Yeah, she's. Like yeah, it tastes great with.
Yeah, fucking great. Frying up with onions?
Absolutely. You call him Jean.
Jean Claude. It's Jean.
It's Jean. Van Damme.
Jean-Claude Van Damme. All right, I'm not here for your
ridicule. No, I'm just.
(38:39):
I I went along with it, but it's.
Jean Jean Jean-Claude Van Damme.Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Yeah, Jean-Claude Van Damme, notJean or whatever you were
saying. I said Jean, I know, but Jean?
Jean. How have you you know who that
is? Everyone knows who Jean is.
I wonder if there was a poster of him doing his split.
Did you ever see that when he did a split in his fucking skin
(39:00):
tight jeans? Who's a better action star?
Though don't even, don't even say it.
Don't. Don't even say it exactly.
I mean, Speaking of Russia, right?
Don't say it, Don't say it. Go ahead.
No, I'm just asking. Who are you gonna say out of
who? Out of who you said, who you
said? Don't even say it.
I know who you're thinking of. Who?
Who? Nice little ponytail.
Steven Seagal. I'm gonna fuck.
(39:20):
I'm. Gonna beat your fucking face.
Who's better no of an action star.
Steven Seagal movies were fucking great.
For the shitty, no. Shitty.
No old action. Movies Jean Claude Jean Claude
Jean Jean Jean Jean. Now he's in Russia right now,
hanging out. Steve, Steven.
Seagal, Steven. Seagal is a loser.
No, there was no. He is, but the movies were
(39:43):
funny, dude. If you put one on you'll laugh
your ass off. Just sort of how bad they are.
It's funny. No.
It's like the Death Wish movies back in the 70s.
Oh, with the? Do with the mustache, Yeah.
Oh my God. People like hold on, Hold on,
hold on, hold on. Fuck Bronson.
Charles Bronson. Charles Bronson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very Charles Bronson esque.
(40:05):
All right, keep going. Certainly a product of the era.
Yeah, it was kind of funny that he said Jean, but I went with
it. Jean, John.
Jean OK, I got. I got.
I got fuck you and fuck you, allright.
Keep going. All right.
So yeah. That's so funny though.
A schizophrenic person talking to posters of Jean.
Claude Van Damme and his while he's.
(40:27):
Just chopping up bodies. Yeah.
Oh, that's sorry to the victims.All right, Keep going.
Rest in peace, All right? So.
Yeah. So the walls were adorned with
posters of kittens and actor Jean-Claude Van Damme and
scattered around where soda bottles filled with blood, a
copy of a popular Russian cookbook Man in the Kitchen, and
(40:49):
jars and jars filled with piecesof dried human skin and ears.
Aspect, which is actually a liquid stock made from human
bones. And most horrifying of all,
shashlik or kebabs on a stick, Nice in a pot with onions and
the meat from Edict Vasilevsky'sbody.
(41:12):
I mean, if you're gonna go humanflesh, yeah, make it fun.
Kebabs, Onion, little onion, green pepper.
I. Get it?
Makes sense, yeah. If you had to eat, If you had to
eat a person like, how would youprep it?
It would be a lean. It would be a lean cut.
What would a lean cut be? Yeah, what part would you eat?
The butt. Do you know what?
I honestly no. The butt would be fatty.
(41:33):
It would either be the butt or the thigh.
But a ham Hock imagine like a split pea soup.
And instead of using the ham Hock as the as imagine instead
of a ham Hock, right, you know, you throw the bone, the big ass
hawk into the the pot and then you boil it and you make the
split pee. You just put someone's ass cheek
right in the you do a split pee.Butt cheek.
(41:54):
Split pea soup with a butt cheek.
Split pea butt cheek. Split pea butt cheek.
I could go down with that. Probably be the best way I'm.
Probably going to smoke it. Smoke the butt a.
Smoke, I don't know, would a would a muscle be too?
Like. Too chewy?
I don't. Know how it works?
I don't know how. I've never ate a person before.
Like why? Why is a filet mignon so tender?
(42:17):
And like what part of the filet mignon is from the cow?
The tenderest part of the the animal is the least used, which
is like lamb, right? So lamb is a baby sheep or baby
baby sheep, right? A lamb.
(42:37):
I think that's right. Lamb so people like obsess over
lamb. Oh my God, Lamb is so good
because lamb is is a baby. It's like.
Veal, right? Or veal.
Yeah, it's. A baby cow, those fucking little
tiny, it's horrible. Yeah, they just chain them
outside of a little fucking. Right, because the muscles, the
muscles, the muscles don't develop.
(42:57):
Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's the most tender.
Sure, I just. Wonder I for one can't stand
fucking Lamb. No, I don't eat EUR or any of
that. Shit, no, can't stand it.
That sounds good. Euros.
Yeah, I love that. Like.
A You're a fucking savvy. You're eating a baby animal.
Oh my God. OK, we've shit on PETA the most
(43:19):
out of this podcast and you're sounding like a real sympathizer
right now. When he got promoted changed.
Dude, what's he got? Sergeant Man, what's up?
PC principle over here. Where's your Oakleys, buddy?
I do have Oakleys. I do have Oakleys, not white
ones though. Should I get white Oakleys?
No, please don't. Yes, get them.
(43:42):
Maybe I'll wear them on the nextpart.
All right, no, back to my question.
So what is it? You think a like a calf wouldn't
be good, right? That's a muscle that's used all
the time. A calf.
Like a human calf. It wouldn't be good, right?
It'd be very maybe like right here.
A breast. A breast?
Yeah. The.
Chest. Like a breast like above the.
(44:04):
No, you definitely got to go either the ass or the thigh,
but. The ass is still using muscle,
it's fatty and it's muscly. Well, are you, I mean, are you a
twerker? No but when you walk you can
feel your ass like maybe it's just me and I'm ripped.
I know, I'm sorry, but like. Are you making your ass clap?
(44:25):
All right, all right. Fuck it, I'm going split pea
soup with a ham instead of a hamHock.
I'm going a human ass. What?
Do you like an 80 year old man split pea?
Soup, listen. The listeners.
Are fucking ham on this split. Pea soup is fucking amazing.
All right, Sorry. All right.
Keep going. I'll take your word for it.
Yeah, we're, we're venturing off.
Sauce or no sauce dipping sauce.You gotta have sauce, yeah?
(44:47):
Honey mustard. Like honey mustard.
Yeah, BBQ make little. Nuggets.
OK, little. Human Nuggets.
Honey mustard is my go to dip. No, I like AI, I'm a big BBQ.
Spicy. Non spicy.
Spicy. Spicy.
Yeah, Yeah, definitely spicy. Sisone.
All right, Sisone Adobo. All right, so I'll.
Spanish it up a little bit. Yeah, sorry.
(45:08):
Keep going. Keep going, put some sasone.
Sasone a little. Sasone a little sofrita.
All right, so at first Kusakov refused to confess the police,
but he eventually admitted to killing the three men, right.
For those of you who who had lost track of what we're talking
about, this guy killed three menand he ate them.
(45:30):
So All right, so and. For the record, we're not
condoning cannibalism on this right podcast.
However, I'm not. Yeah, none of us would probably
eat people, right? However, if you are going to eat
people. Yeah, ham Hock.
Is the ass sort of like so? Yeah.
So when Kusakov, he was placed under arrest and he tried to to
(45:50):
bribe the blab, he tried to bribe the police, not with money
or not even with sexual favors. He tried to bribe them with some
human liver, which they declined.
You heard that? Did he say it was human or did
he just say? No, Yeah, he did.
He did, yeah. That's a schizophrenic person.
(46:12):
Like he's like, hey man, I got. I got liver.
It makes total sense. So with Kusakov in in custody,
police noted that Igor was he had a goatish animal smell,
which is common amongst known cannibals, as experts theorized
that this comes from the acrid sweat of a person who consumed
(46:34):
human meat, which then has an adverse chemical reaction
causing causing the foul smell to permeate throughout the body.
Oh, it's. Like a ferret.
Yeah. You know how like ferrets have
like the OR like certain animalshave the oily smell.
So if I start eating you, I'll start having like a.
Like a smell. Oil, right?
Oh, I wonder what that smells like.
Because our bodies aren't meant to consume human.
(46:57):
No, Yeah, she comes out of your body like has like an adverse
reaction to it which permeates through your.
Skin. Wonder what that smells like?
I'm so curious. So although.
What would you do? Oh yeah, go, go.
Give me what would you do if youactually knew what that smelt
like and you smelt it on somebody next to you?
I'm like. Give them a good ol like you.
(47:18):
You get in an Uber. I can't wink good, but give them
a good ol. Like I got you, I got you, you
get. Into an.
Uber I could never wink at a girl in a bar, you know?
He'd be like. I think you're having a stroke.
Yeah, fucking Gary. Fuck.
Yeah, Hey, baby. Hey.
Plus, I'm not tall, so my feet swing on bar stools, so imagine
(47:39):
me trying to wink at you while my feet enters the ground.
Something special. Look at him.
Oh, wait. So yeah, you get in a Uber and
you start smelling it. That's.
All you smell, where are you going?
That's crazy. I.
Guess Wow. And he's taking you home.
Wow, OK, he's not going to freak.
Are you going to get out of the Uber?
No get a lot of a gun, but it's OK.
(48:02):
All right. Can you say that again?
What do that again? Where are you going?
OK, all right, all right, there it is.
All right. And that's how criminal they.
Have am I? Am I the only person that knows
what, like if you got if you imagine, close your eyes real
quick. close your eyes real quick.
Yeah, you're getting in an Uber.Yep.
You smell a just. Stop, just stop.
Just stop. Just stop.
(48:23):
Go, go, go, go. All right.
So although Kusakov admitted to killing and eating the three
known victims, authorities suspect that there mean that
there may be many more because the amount of meat and other
body parts found in his apartment far exceeds what would
typically come from just the three bodies.
Dude. He was harvesting.
Yeah, so this brings us back to the beginning when Kusakoff was
(48:45):
sharing recipes with Doctor Ivanoff.
Now in his mind, Kusakoff believed that Doctor Ivanoff and
even some of the police officerswere fellow cannibals, which is
why he offered liver to the arresting officers, right?
So with Kusakov stating to Doctor Ivanoff, come on, we
understand each other, you're not going to do your Russian
(49:07):
accent. Come on, we understand each.
Other There you go. All right, you could Get Me Out
of here. We will go off together and do
things we like to do. Because he thinks everybody's a
cannibal, right? So Doctor Ivanoff smiles,
ensuring not to break the trust he earned with Cusico.
God that. 'D be such a fun job, dude.
(49:27):
Yeah, like the psychiatric guy, going in to talk to him just to
fuck with him, not Even so much fuck with him, but like to play
a part to like, get him to like talk and confess and try to get
down to it. I would love that gig, yeah.
That'd be good. Just to talk to the craziest
people live. Yeah, so.
Sympathize with him like yeah man, little liver, little lung
and. I get it.
I got you. Yeah.
Keep talking. Fry it up.
(49:48):
Fry it up. Get them all excited.
They're like dogs. They're like, all right, keep.
Going, they start humping each other anyways.
All right, so sadly, Kusakov goes on to explain that he had
tried to get psychiatric help for years but was always told to
take pills and that he didn't require hospital
hospitalization. Now, had he been given proper
(50:10):
psychiatric assistance, perhaps these three lives and possibly
more could have been saved. Now, as this interview draws to
a close, Kusakov rises from his his chair and says to Doctor
Ivanov, Hey, I like the look of the of the lawyer over there,
Speaking of the man nervously smoking his cigarettes, you
(50:31):
know, jotting down notes from the beginning of the story.
He's nice. He's got a good strong body.
What do you think? Yeah, think we can take him out
right now, you know? But Ilshat Kusakov was
eventually convicted in March of1997.
He was declared insane. He was sentenced to compulsory
(50:55):
treatment at the psychiatric hospital in Saint Petersburg.
Now, many sources say that Kusakov passed away in the early
2000s, but there is no definitive proof of his fate
since he was sentenced so. Yeah, dude, Russia doesn't
strike me as a place that would be like, yeah, we have complete
records of our inmates. Like you go if you're eating
(51:16):
people. That motherfucker was gone.
Yeah, he was in a labor camp up in.
Solitary up in yeah fucking Siberia area.
Hitting ice like everyday. Stranger Things fucking yeah I
got you. All right, so that'll do it for
fava beans and a nice Chianti from Criminal AF.
So a special thank you to Debbiefrom True Crime University for
(51:39):
sharing this story with us. Thank you, Debbie.
Yes, and thank you Debbie for Vanessa as well and.
Vanessa will with her pasties onand.
Her bandana skirt she's got. Forever be on the wall and 1st
off let's talk about this. I have to sit there next to this
thing knowing 5050% chance that Dave has put his Dick in that.
So thanks, Debbie. All right, admittedly.
(52:03):
Because he says no but I don't believe him so and because he
brought this today after I haven't, I haven't, I haven't
seen him in like a month I guess.
We haven't seen each other for nine months.
What are you talking? About for criminal AF, yeah,
we've seen each other outside ofway, but I that hasn't been back
in at the studio, the studio chloroform in a long time.
All right, you heard it here first.
(52:25):
There may have been a possibility that my penis was
inside. Vanessa.
Good old Vanessa here once at a minimum 5050 chance.
I like to keep it at 5050 because then I can just, I can
keep going, right? All right.
All right, so. Thanks, Debbie.
(52:45):
Yeah, so that'll do it for this episode.
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Signing off from Studio Chloroform.
Keep your hand on a swivel and stay safe.
(53:06):
Till next time. See ya in case you didn't do it.
Yeah, there you go. And get ready for respectfully
disrespectful.
In this episode, we'll talk about a man who befriended a cat
named Dasha, who he claims instructed him to not only
commit murder, but to also commit gruesome and disgusting
atrocities to their bodies. I'm Dave Jarry.
And I'm Garrett Corder and. This is criminal as.
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finally with me is my Co host Garrett Corner.
How we doing? It's so great to be back in
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You're about to experience some unfiltered storytelling with a
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give it a listen if it's not foryou.
Thanks for checking it out. See you.
But if it is, welcome to the debauchery.
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Hey, Garrett. Yeah, Bud.
What do you say we go down to Florida?
What the fuck's going on on the Florida fuck is?
Going on, on the Florida, Yeah, yeah, here it is.
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There he goes. Yeah, he's done.
All right, this wouldn't be criminal AF without a little bit
of beastiality to be. Honest.
Oh boy, here we go. So we're going to go down and
take it to a Florida woman today.
Florida woman arrested for sexual assault of a Chihuahua
selling videos on Snapchat. No.
A Florida woman went to shockinglengths to make $500 in a recent
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Facebook post. What?
Are we doing? The Marion County Sheriff's
Office revealed that they'd arrested a 27 year old Logan
Gaminsky for making and selling a video of herself engaging in a
sexual act with one of her dogs.Officers received an anonymous
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tip claiming that Gaminsky. How do you say?
That Gaminsky posted the graphicvideo in a January purple the
post, according to an arrest report obtained by Ocala News.
I fucking knew it was Ocala. They are a a a frequent flyer in
this in this segment. The tip included the 32 second
video in question. The clip allegedly showed a
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brown and white Chihuahua pictured on in the article,
licking the unclothed vagina of a white female, the outlet
reported. Wait, wait, wait.
An unclothed with with so like alike a vagina.
I think it's unclothed. Unclothed.
Unclothed. OK.
Kaminsky allegedly utilized her hand to manually manipulate her
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vagina, and she coerced the dog to continue its act by petting
it. OK, and she posted that on
Facebook for free? Wait, what?
It was a Facebook post. No, that's.
What it said on here, maybe it was a teaser to the Snapchat,
you know what I mean? You know, like.
We didn't get the full video. Amid their investigation,
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detectives confirmed Kaminsky was the person in the video.
They also located several photosand videos of her with the
abused animal, according to Facebook post.
Two months later, Gaminsky was questioned by detectives during
the interview, and Gaminsky classified herself as a content
creator. It's like us that's like us.
Yeah, we're caught. Yeah.
Where's my Chihuahua? Wait, Beretta.
Oh, stop it. Who makes sexual, explicit
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photos and videos to sell online?
Per the Post, Kaminsky admitted to sharing the video in question
with another user who requested its creation.
Oh, somebody wanted it. Oh shit.
The user The user allegedly paid$500.00 for this disturbing
clip. Additionally, Kaminsky allegedly
said that she had been involved in sexual activity with another
dog. She said that the videos of both
incidents were stored on her cell phone.
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Another dog? Yeah.
Really. She's a frequent flyer.
Kaminsky was placed under arrestfor sexual activity involving a
animal and filming sexual activity involving an animal and
transported to the Marion CountyJail.
She was released in the following day on a $10,000 bond.
Woo. That's OK, all right.
To be fair though, with the way Ocala has gone in these
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segments, I would have thought they'd pass on the bestiality
law. You would think that that's a
common thing down. There, you would think it'd be
it'd be good. Legal or not legal, but just,
you know, yeah, maybe a little fine or something.
Nothing I. Mean with the whole thing like
is. Is there a is there a state in
the United States that B Seattlebestiality is legal?
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That's that's, that's a good question.
That's a good, good, good Casey.Casey, you know again, I.
Like I don't have enough buttonsto push back.
You would you would think in today's day, in 2025, that
somebody would be able to fuck an animal.
I right, 'cause you got like, you got the furries, right?
The furries, they. Yeah, but.
(05:29):
They pretend they. I don't know, I heard that high
schools have actual fucking litter boxes in their fucking
bathrooms. Whoa, there is a state.
West Virginia. West Virginia.
West Virginia is the only state that does not have a law
prohibiting feastiality. Really.
OK, Wow. All right.
Oh man. Oh, speaking Speaking of West
(05:49):
Virginia. Mama.
Did I ever correct myself from when we talked about the
Mountain Dew? No.
No, it was actually Kentucky. Oh.
It started. Mountain Dew, No, Kentucky has
the highest consumption of Mountain Dew.
That kind of track. I thought it was West Virginia.
So I apologize to all of our West Virginians.
Have you ever seen the movie? The West Virginia, West
(06:10):
Virginia, West Virginia, West Virginia did.
You ever watch the documentary the the Wild Whites?
Yes. Which she was like when she's a
Taco Bell blind and she's like they took her baby.
If for the listeners, if you guys haven't seen the wild
white, the what is it? Well, I forgot what.
It's called the Wild Lights of West Virginia.
(06:30):
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, Go.
Watch that documentary, it'll make you feel better about the
worst white trash that you have in your family, I promise.
You. Oh my God.
Yeah. So anyway, so yeah.
So apologize to our W Virginian listeners.
It's actually Kentucky, you fucking weirdo.
Fucking it makes sense, though. It's at the end of the
Appalachians, you know what I mean?
They're coming down the mountains at that point.
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Right. Yeah.
They got they got off the the weird trail.
By then, yeah, but I mean, all right, going back to your story,
like with the with the prominence of of furries
nowadays, you know, people who, who, who identify as an animal.
A lot of those I see. It's a misconception though that
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a lot of them have sex in their costumes.
It's not true. They're just weird.
I've seen videos. Well, yeah, but that's it's a
niche porn category for sure. But.
A lot of those people that go tothe conventions and stuff are
just weird. They just like, yeah, have you
ever seen the the girls who weartails and shit nowadays?
Like there's a girl in my daughter's school that wears a
tail and then a clefarian. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
(07:34):
wait, wait, wait. What?
What kind of tail? It's no, it's not that kind of
tail that'd. Be a little like a butt blood
tail. No, they disagree.
They have like clip on tails andthey walk around on all fours.
Oh wait, what? Yeah, they're called Clefarians.
So she walks around all fours? Yeah, in the school.
Tends to be a cat. In the school, yeah.
Like like grooms herself and shit.
All right, Do they have litter boxes in the bathroom?
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No, I don't think so. I don't, I would hope.
You might want to, yes. I would hope not.
Because there there are schools in our area that have litter
boxes in their bathrooms. That's a big thing for kids
nowadays. Like there's a couple kids that
do that. It's really weird.
That'll be another episode. When I was in middle school that
that poor girl would have been harassed and thrown.
(08:14):
Oh my God. Thrown.
In a locker. Yeah, that'll be an episode for
our new, our new upcoming episode here.
Oh, here we go. All right, All right, breaking
news. So we're all sitting here
talking Casey Garrett and myself, and we're like, you
know, hey, what, what kind of content can we actually like,
(08:37):
bring out to more people and kind of like expand, you know
what we, what we do here? Yeah, because we have some
people who are like, oh, only stick to the story of the, of
the crime. And there's other people like we
really enjoy the banter between between all of you.
And so we're like, well, how canwe do both?
(08:58):
You know what I mean? So we are going to be coming out
with another, another podcast and you ready?
I'm. Ready.
You ready? I'm ready.
All right, here it is. The new podcast.
It'll be called Respectfully disrespectful and the claps and
(09:20):
the claps and the claps and the claps.
All right, ready to. Go respectfully disrespectful.
Yeah, Casey. Well.
You know I'm. Still, we're still working
things out here through this because all right, here we go.
I got it. All right.
Respectfully disrespectful. There it is.
All right. Yeah.
Congratulations. Yeah.
(09:41):
Here we go. That's really a lot.
Yeah. That goes a long time.
All right. So basically we're going to do,
we're going to continue criminalAF when when, you know, an
interesting story comes up. But we're also going to branch
off and do a separate podcast where we're just going to talk
(10:03):
about a bunch of shit. Yeah, for sure.
You know, kind of like current event shit.
Week in review esque. Right.
Kind of like shit that's going on in this world and and also,
you know, come up with some somesegments that are pretty fucking
crazy. I also think that we have tried
to play our podcast politically correct to not offend people and
this one's not going to be like that.
(10:24):
So if you get affected easy juststick with criminal AFI guess
and. You know, and not so much
political, I mean. Everything.
We're going to push a lot of buttons, hence the name.
Respectfully disrespectful because you know, you might be,
you might feel disrespected. Respectfully, respectfully, but.
You know what I mean? Respectfully, you might be a
(10:45):
piece of shit. With all the respect, no
offense, it's just like, hey, you know, this is what it is.
Me and Dave talked about it. Criminal left was still our
baby. Well, it started as Dave's baby,
but it blossomed into a beautiful adopted child for me.
Yes. Yeah.
And I don't want to get rid of it, even though you know.
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you. I'm with you.
I I enjoy, I enjoy the stories that we talk about, you know,
(11:08):
especially like the most fucked up ones where an 18 year old
killed his mother and fucked herbrain, you know, you know,
those, those kind of stories still kind of intrigue me, you
know what I mean? Yeah, there's.
There's something about entrailsbeing sucked out while you stand
underneath a dead body that just, you know, really strikes
the. Correct, Correct.
That didn't come up. That didn't come up on the
thing. So yeah, Nope.
(11:30):
I also think that with the Criminal AF podcast, there was a
lot of research and effort that went into it.
Yeah, it was difficult to do allthat work and get content out
regularly. Correct.
And the hope is with this new podcast, we can just do it, do
it more freely. There's gonna be, it's gonna be
(11:51):
more loose. There's gonna be probably a lot
of mistakes and pauses and mumbling and bumbling, but.
It'll be fun, but all of the. Crazy shit that we've cut out of
criminal A that you guys haven'tseen.
We'll now be. We'll now be in this, Yeah.
Yeah, we won't be as polished and therefore it should come
out. More authentic, yeah.
Yeah, 'cause we're sitting theretalking, 'cause you know, we did
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a lot of self reflection over these past.
Well, I mean, to be honest, Daveleft stuff like just got up and
left for us to try. To make we should we should
cover the reason why there. Was I did cover, did you guys
tell these people what happened,why Criminal EF was gone?
Yeah, I put out a, a, a. Solo a written notice.
No, no, nobody read I. I put out a solo episode that
kind of explained everything, sort of.
(12:34):
So. So basically, yes, I got
promoted at work. Oh, he got promoted.
Here. He's Garrett's boss now.
Yeah. He's both of our master, yeah.
So, so it by with with that promotion, it put me on a
totally opposite schedule as Garrett and Casey.
(12:54):
So while they were working, I was off while I was off there,
you know, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
So, I mean, I've seen these guysoutside of work in the past
eight months maybe twice. Twice. 2 times maybe?
Two times and it wasn't. For a long time.
No it. Was like hey I got today off for
some reason. Right.
Like hey, I took the and. The last thing we wanted to do
(13:14):
after I haven't seen Dave, obviously you guys know how
close I am with him, was do a podcast.
I just wanted to go hang out with the guy.
Right, yeah. So, you know, but now we're back
on the same team, we're ready togo.
We're kicking this off. And and like I said, you know,
we have some time to reflect where, you know, doing a true
crime podcast as, as Casey was saying, it's like you have to
(13:35):
have your facts straight. Yeah, you have to have your
information correct. Or people will.
Blow you up, right. So there's a lot of, you know,
fact checking, you know, there's, there's getting your
sources and then sourcing those sources just to make sure you
have your shit correct. And, and to be perfectly honest,
with a full time schedule, our my days off, we're going into
(13:57):
solely researching and writing episodes, which is extremely
demanding, you know what I mean?So we're like, yeah, let's,
let's continue doing criminal AFand we will.
And you know, we'll have more episodes coming out.
I already have like 3 or 4 already lined up.
So those, those will continue. But we're like, let's just do a
(14:18):
podcast where we can just come in, talk about.
We can, we can pull something out once a week where it
doesn't. It's not so demanding, right?
We can still make content weeklyfor people that actually like us
and don't aren't just solely focused on the on.
The true crime? On the true crime aspect and
then every now and again you guys get we'll sneak in a
criminal AF there to keep the fans.
So, so yeah, so respectfully disrespectful.
(14:41):
We'll be rolling out here relatively soon, probably in the
next month or so. And you know, once, once we do
that, we'll, we'll post links and, and hopefully you guys will
who enjoy us, you know, we'll jump over to that podcast and
follow along as well. Yeah, we have to be careful what
we say now though, because our boss is in the same room as us.
(15:05):
That's right, mother fucker. And I think we're respectfully
disrespectful. Will be pretty fun because we're
going to do like skits and yeah,like, yeah, fake commercials and
all sorts of yeah, it's going tobe all over the place.
Just have fun with it for sure. And it's, and it's like, it's
like, like I said, it's not going to be as demanding as, as
you know, Criminal AF will be. And, and hopefully that fun and
(15:27):
that enjoyment and everything comes out in the new episodes.
So but yeah, Criminal AF is not going away, but we're going to
be jumping over to. Don't, yeah, don't expect every
an episode of Criminal AF every week, basically.
That's. What we're saying, yeah, yeah,
yeah, it will be back, but. But keep it on that notification
bar by the way, because it's there will be every now and
again. 100% and I don't know if you can see on Garrett's camera
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here. Can we switch over to Garrett,
Vanessa? Do we remember Vanessa from the
from the last episode? We covered up her nipples.
We put pasties on her and now she's part of the background.
Yep, now she's here. We're going to we're going to
get her own shelf. So so and we've still got we've
still got Ed camper over here and for from Stu Muertos from he
(16:13):
sent us that that was good. So if you guys, hey, if you guys
have anything you want to send us, you know, just let us
message us on IG or, or they. Didn't even say that.
We're going to keep the same segments, We're going to keep
mail call, we're going to keep true crime douche bags.
We're going to do all that fun stuff.
Yep. Yeah.
So that's the. Advice.
Advice too. Yeah, that was always fun.
(16:34):
Yep. So we're going to keep like
Garrett said, like Florida Man mail call, that's all going to
go to respectfully, respectfullydisrespectful.
You're right, Casey. Yeah, it's a little a little
tough to say, but well, it's going to add other segments like
Confessions. You know, there's a segment out
there for there's some wild shitthat people confess to.
(16:55):
There's some. Good reddits?
Subreddits. For those ones, it's good.
It's good. So yeah.
Anyway, enough about that. Yeah.
Yeah, you'll see. It when it comes out, yeah.
So we're going to jump right into this story about a man who
befriended a cat named Dasha, and Dasha told him that'd be a
great idea to start murdering people.
But it didn't just end with murder.
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It went much further, much more disgustingly further.
So without further ado, let's get to this story starting
right. Meow, meow.
So let me paint you a picture. All right?
There are a few men sitting in adark, dimly lit room.
One of the men sits in the corner, anxiously smoking a
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cigarette down to the filter, jotting down notes as fast as
you can as two other men appear to be jovial, having a light
hearted chat. They just met like a couple of
days ago, but they've developed a good rapport, possibly even a
friendship, over the course of their time together.
And today's conversation focuseson how to prepare food.
(18:01):
OK, one of the men asks, have you ever tried this one?
First you fry meat in one of thesauce pans in a little bit of
oil. Liver is actually the best.
Then in another pan you find youfry the onions, put them
together with either stock or water, and simmer for half an
(18:21):
hour. So this meeting between the two
men and the conversation they were having could have been held
in literally any kitchen, pantryor cafe anywhere in the world.
But this particular meeting was held on the second floor of
Detention Center 45 Five, located in Saint Petersburg,
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Russia. Ohio, you had to say it was a
Russian prison. In the base.
That that's we already know where this is going, yeah.
So one of the men was Doctor Valeri Ivanov, a court appointed
psychiatrist assigned to task, assigned to the task of learning
as much as you can about the mansitting across from him. 35 year
old Ilshat Kusovkov, also known as Igor.
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Now, hey, I'd go by Igor too if my name was Ilshat.
Like, hey, I'll shit my pants like I shit my pants.
Oh man. All right, so anyway, Ilshat was
more than happy to tell Doctor Ivanov like his many ways of
preparing food, which consisted of human flesh with the liver
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ripped out from his victim's still warm body with his band
hands, which was actually his favorite.
Now, Kusakov was particularly was particular of the parts of
the body he would consume. He would never eat from the
elbows or knees down, nor would he eat the head, bowels or
genitalia. That makes sense though, yeah.
(19:53):
I mean, look at look at cuts of meat.
Yeah, you know, he, he, he had his like, you know.
What's the what's the what's thecheese head cheese?
Ramunda, OH. No head cheese, Have you?
Have you ever tried Ramunda? Have you ever tried head cheese?
No. Have you ever seen it?
I. It's.
A gelatin. Yeah, head cheese isn't cheese.
No, it's like a bunch of scrap meat that's on like the butcher
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floor that they just put together in a gelatin.
Right, but. All those pieces you don't want?
Nobody wants to eat those piecesin of regular meat.
Humans, probably the exact same way.
And let's call it cheese. Yeah, OK.
Now he would focus mainly on theupper limbs, quads, glutes,
biceps, triceps, shoulders and of course, the liver.
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Now, when police searched his home, he had the forearms and
calves of his last victim in garbage bags waited to be
disposed of. So how did the two men come to
cross paths in this stuffy, windowless interrogation room?
And how did Kusakov come to learn how to prepare his
favorite dishes of human flesh? Now let's start from the
(20:58):
beginning. Yeah, Ilshak Kusakov was born
February 27th, 1960 in Tajikistan.
Tajikistan. Which is, which was then part of
the Soviet Union. He gets a window for my lamp.
I get a window. He had one brother and their
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father was described as a tyrant.
He would repeatedly and severelybeat the boy's mother, which
ultimately led to her death in 1973, allegedly in front of
Kusakov, who was around the age of 10, I'm sorry, who was around
the age of 12 or 13 at the time.He would later say that after
this event, he lost the ability to feel compassion and the
(21:43):
ability to be disgusted by blood.
After his mother's murder, he and his brother were adopted by
their aunt, and it was around this time that Kusakov began an
incestuous relationship with hisbrother.
Right around. I mean, we talk about it all the
time on this podcast. 12 to 13. Yep, whatever your kink is fucks
you up real good. There it is, go fuck your
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brother now. He became so enthralled with
everything to do with the human body he set his sights on
becoming a surgeon. But he was not the most studious
student, so that true that dream's soon dissipated.
Meow, this obsession with the stop the meow, this obsession
(22:28):
with the body would lead to a particular kink where he would
ejaculate at the sight of anything to do with it.
His porn of choice. Watching surgery documentary
documentaries on TV. Lunatic.
Yeah. That's very damaresque.
You know how he like used to getturned on by the shininess of
organs? Yeah, Yep.
(22:49):
Very same, same niche. So yeah, so any surgery
document, why can't I fucking say that word?
Documentary. Documentary You're. 3 Ipas in.
That's why you can't say the. Word.
I'm about to be 4 in a second. Yeah, he would just fucking get
a boner and just whack off to it.
That's interesting. So Kuzhkov, He went on to study
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to become a welder in postgrad school, but he flunked out and
in 1980, at the age of 20. Wait, question?
Yep. How do you flunk out of welding
school like. Because you're not.
Good. No, but like I get funking out
because you're not good at welding, but it's all like when
I hear flunked out, I think of tests.
(23:32):
Is there tests? Casey might know he went to
trade school. Is there tests like written
tests in welding? I would think that there's
theory behind it. Because I thought it was like,
whenever I see the videos of welders, it's like their tests
are like, hey, make AU joint, make this, make this.
And then they look at the welds and they say, all right, you
passed. Yeah, I didn't know you can.
(23:53):
I didn't know there was actual tests.
Yeah, I I with most with most trade schools.
With most, with most, with most and he's the sober 1 here.
Well, with most trade schools, there's the, you know, the
theory side of it where you do classroom work, you have to do
so many hours, right? And then there's the actual
practical, you know? Testing.
(24:14):
Yeah, it probably is. Like what?
How many degrees does it take toburn your finger or whatever?
What I do know is welding is a lot harder than people make it
out to be. Right.
That's why they big bucks guys in our job like the underwater
welders and shit. Those those guys make a killing.
Oh yeah, the divers, yeah. Oh fuck yeah.
Make a killing. Yeah, Good.
(24:34):
OK, I'm just. I was curious.
I didn't know how you flunk out.I didn't know there was tests
during welding school. I thought you just learned how
to Weld. Right.
Yeah, I would think that more most likely you're going to fail
out on the practical piece like not being able to do a good Weld
and things like that. So.
Interesting. Interesting indeed.
Any welders out there let us know how hard was your final?
(24:58):
All right, so we just took a little quick break.
I had to go upstairs to to use the restroom and hey, actually
girl. Just my boxers.
OK, when I was upstairs. Yeah, Layla, she has a friend
over. Let's not talk about it.
Who happened to be a young, young gentleman.
(25:19):
I don't. Know just they're in fucking 5th
grade man. OK, well, I will say that he
came up to me and he introduced himself as, whatever his name
was, fifth graders. Don't need boyfriends and
girlfriends. He has a crush on her.
Yeah, yeah. So immediately I went to
Grayson, Yeah. And I'm like.
Her brother, by the way. Yeah, her brother, Leila's
brother. And I was like, bro, like, what
(25:41):
kind of brother are you? Like, you need to be like, on
top of this shit, like, you needto be like, monitoring, like
who? Who's this random guy from the
neighborhood hanging out with your sister?
I get where you're going, you know what I mean?
But he's also the younger brother.
He doesn't give a shit, no. He's sitting there playing.
Older brother. He's sitting there playing his
fucking Game Boy, whatever the fuck is The thing is, and he's
(26:01):
like, yeah, I don't care. And I'm like, bro, what the hell
are you, you know. But anyway, yeah, that was.
Me mate, I already Laila's doesn't even she's like yeah he
has a crush on me but whatever. Yeah, So what?
What you're you're a, you came back, you're adjusting your
nuts. So I agree, are you a boxer or a
brief guy? Well, boxer brief.
(26:24):
Yeah, boxer briefs, yeah, I, I just call those briefs.
There's underwear, briefs and. You like Whitey tighties?
No, I like briefs. This is too much.
Like there's too much room. Down there you have so you're.
Wearing like old traditional like.
Boxers, Boxers. OK.
Everything's just dangling. I don't like it.
Sorry. All right.
All right, that's your thing. Yeah.
No, no, I like briefs, OK. I like briefs.
(26:46):
Boxers don't, I don't think. Yeah, I'm not a big boxer fan.
I don't like hanging. Are you a TikTok shop guy?
Do you order stuff off a TikTok shop?
Some things, yeah. I mean, if I see, it's usually
the dumbest fucking shit in the world.
Like it's like something I see on a TikTok and I'm like, Oh my
God, I got to have that. All right, so I actually I
ordered these boxer briefs from TikTok shop where you actually
(27:09):
so. With the question, was the ad a
dude wearing them? It was a mannequin.
Oh, OK. It was a mannequin wearing.
Sure, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, however.
All right, so these boxers, theyseparate the penis from the the
nut sack. Oh.
That would be nice though, yeah,Because you know how it gets all
mushed up together, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
(27:30):
You know, like, yeah, yeah. Everything kind of just folds
into one, right? Yeah, yes.
So I actually. Wait, we're discussing, we're
giving these people shout outs and this is they're not even a
sponsor. No, no, no, no, no.
I'm not going to name that name who they are.
OK All right, So I ordered theseboxers off a TikTok shop, right?
And I'm like, that's interesting.
(27:51):
You keep your penis separate, separate from your from your
nutsack, right? So I got I got them in and dude,
they are silky fucking smooth first of all.
Right, like a good silky. Yeah.
So basically what happens is it has a hole in the boxer that
leads to a separate compartment of the boxer.
(28:13):
There's no way you you put your boxers on and you stick it
through the hole. Right, so basically you're
sticking your Dick through a cock ring.
That is ridiculous. That's built into the fucking
boxers, right? That's.
Weird. That's weird energy.
Listen, listen, just hear me out.
Listen, listen, listen. So you stick your Dick through
this, through this hole in the boxers, slash cock ring in the
(28:35):
boxers, and it puts your Dick into a separate compartment of
the box. That's so uncomfortable.
Let me tell you dude. There's no way you.
Are floating on a fucking cloud all.
Right, I got to try them. Your genitalia are just just.
That can be emasculating too, because what happens when you
get them in and they're like, the hole's really big.
You're like damn dude. Yeah, yeah.
(28:59):
It's like, damn, they don't havea smaller hole.
What the Hell's going on? Yeah, like that would be very
upsetting if I get the hole and it's just like, live down there.
All right, Where were we at withthe story?
Guys, Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a different hold on,
just hold. On the respectfully
disrespectful conversation. Keep it.
Keep it on, Garrett. Hold on, My.
(29:20):
I got to turn my thing back on. Hold on.
Entertain the crowd, Yeah. Guys, I'm drinking a little
Maker's Mark in ginger ale. OK, actually there.
We go. All right, it's a smooth
buttery. Sorry, sorry.
Little live, live thing here. All right, so, all right, So
(29:42):
basically, where where were we? OK, so welding.
Kusakov. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kusakov. He flunked out of grad school.
All right, back to the story where we're bringing it back in.
All right, so in 1980, at the age of 20, he moved to Viiborg,
a city about 130 kilometers northwest of Saint Petersburg.
Saint Petersburg, Saint Petersburg to join to join the
(30:08):
military. Now by 1982, Kusakov committed
his first known crime, which he attacked another man with a
wrench. Now he avoided jail time when he
was diagnosed with schizophrenia, and while he was
undergoing forced treatment at the psychiatric facility, he met
a woman, also a patient at the facility, who he would soon, who
(30:31):
would soon become his wife. That's nice.
It's a healthy. Nothing like 2 psych ward
patients marrying each other and.
Living healthy relationship, right?
Happily ever after. So when Kusakov was released
from the facility, he and his blushing bride.
They moved to Saint Petersburg where, surprisingly shocking,
the marriage quickly fell apart as he allegedly attacked her
(30:54):
with a knife. Now Kusakov applied to what
would be his dream job. He applied to what would become
his dream job, working at a morgue washing dead bodies.
Yeah, but was thanks for his interest and told to go fuck
himself. You are not welcome here.
He he was like the guy at our job we can't say much about, but
(31:16):
like when he was like, yeah, I love guns.
I fucking love guns. You know that like that type of
like way too overexcited. You're like, Nah, man, there's
something weird about this guy. Hey, how, how fresh are the dead
bodies? Are they frozen?
Do they like oh man, divide you off from this one?
So, unable to find any work other than menial labor jobs, he
settled in as a street sweeper. So lonely, he adopted a cat he
(31:42):
named Dasha, whom he absolutely adored.
Which is odd because Kusakov would later admit that he would
kill cats and dogs and eat them.Yeah.
But everybody has that person that they don't kill.
Right. Yeah, everybody has that.
That that one thing, right? So serial killers will, you
know, they'll be married. Married with kids.
Right. Married with kids, but they'll
(32:03):
go off and murder random women. Yeah, there's always.
Someone, some lucky person that has to escape by.
Which we talked about before. We've talked about it many.
Times, which is kind of offensive, like, what's wrong
with me? Like, yeah, am I not good enough
to kill? Yeah, you know what kind of
thing? Oh my God, I'm spacing out the
(32:24):
tapes. He sent his tape in.
Oh my God, he sent the tape intothe cops.
It was floppy disk and they fucking traced.
It back to. His wife, I remember we talked
about that like, oh, like, his wife was probably pissed.
Like, what the fuck? Yeah.
You couldn't kill me. Like what the fuck?
Like am I not good enough to be killed?
Good. Enough to be killed.
The psyche of All right keep. Going All right, so Kusakov was
(32:48):
an outpatient at the Maritime Hospital, also known as a Saint
Nicholas the Wonder Worker Hospital in Saint Petersburg for
treatment for schizophrenia. It was during this time that he
made many friends, and he was said to be friendly and
talkative, discussing his favorite topics like animals and
cooking. Yeah, he was quite the chef.
(33:08):
So soon Kusakov would find himself having a conversations
with his beloved cat Dasha, whomhe claimed told him you should
probably go out and like, start murdering these people.
Trax makes sense. Schizophrenia is a wild
disorder. Yeah Meow in November of 1992.
(33:32):
In November of 1992, the first of many disturbing discoveries
were made around Kusakov's neighborhood in Moskovski
District, located in the bleak section of Saint Petersburg.
I can see it now, just Gray buildings with sickles and
hammers all over the place. Right, broken out windows.
Yeah, everybody eating bread. Fur coats.
(33:55):
Like, just, yeah, all right, keep going.
Paint the picture for the audience.
They're they're fur hat fucking things.
Yeah, All right. So neighbors had discovered a
human torso in the basement of an abandoned house.
It was an open basement that many had used to dump refuse, so
there were no leads as to how the torso had gotten there, and
(34:15):
the case went cold. Three years later, on the same
St. in 1995, a driver noticed a human head in the neighborhood's
communal trash trash bin and thearms belonging to the same
person were later discovered in the remnants of a burnt out car.
A month later, in August of 1995, a woman named Olga
(34:38):
Petrovna was walking her dogs onthe same street when the dog
showed interest in an object in a trash pile and lo and behold,
it was another human head. The dogs must have smelled it.
Old Ogler replied. That was your best Russian
accent. I don't know.
Do you know Russian? The dogs must have smells.
(35:01):
No, I can't do it. It was horrible.
It was horrible. There were also jars.
OK, you give me my translator. They're also jars with other
stuff that I thought were just bits of meat.
You couldn't. Imagine it was human.
(35:23):
No, no, no. OK.
The three remains were all eventually identified as Sasha
Pechankin, age unknown, 37 year old Misha Botchkov and 43 year
old Edik Vasilevsky respectively.
(35:43):
All three were known to be part of the outpatient program at the
psychiatric hospital. Where was he living at this
point? Saint Petersburg.
I know, but like in a home. Yes, so were all.
Those people in and out of the like a halfway house basically
in. No, no, he had his own
apartment. OK.
I didn't know if because like they're all from the outpatient
facility of where he was. I mean, it's not rocket science
(36:06):
here. I mean, I know it's end of the
cold world of Russia, but maybe somebody could have figured out
that, you know, the outpatient, there's somebody in here that
was all connected. Right.
You would think that they would have a like sort of A at a
halfway house for psychiatric criminals that have been
(36:27):
diagnosed with schizophrenia. Like they don't just let them
move on into their apartment. Right.
Or if there was like some sort of register where people could.
The criminally insane. But a criminally insane oh, look
at this. So Saint Petersburg police went
to the hospital and checked the register.
(36:47):
They noticed another man's name along with Misha and edicts a
man by the name of Oh Shut My parents Kusakov.
OK. So police went to Kusakov's
apartment and noticed blood droplets leading up to the
stairs to his apartment. This guy is a This guy's a
regular Dexter, huh? So talking with the neighbors,
(37:12):
he just. Left blood going up to his
apartment. So the neighbors complained of a
rancid, rancid smell coming fromthe apartment.
So police they turned off the water to Kusakov's apartment and
posing as plumbers, knocked on his door to gain entry.
At first, Kusakov agreed to allow them into the apartment,
(37:32):
but never opened the door, and after a lengthy exchange of back
and forth communication, police forced entry into the home.
Igor's apartment looked and smelled like something out of a
horror movie. In a canvas bag near the door,
there were two human legs and two forearms.
Wow. The walls The walls were adorned
(37:55):
with posters of kittens and of actor Jean-Claude Van Damme.
That's actually fucking hilarious.
That's fucking great. That is hilarious.
That is great. He had like 17 posters of
Jean-Claude Van Damme. Why that those two things just
gave him some sort of joy and and, you know, he wasn't just
(38:18):
talking to Dasha, he was talkingto Gene Claude A. 100 percent,
100%. He was like, hey, Gene, do you
think I should eat his fucking liver?
Yeah, she's. Like yeah, it tastes great with.
Yeah, fucking great. Frying up with onions?
Absolutely. You call him Jean.
Jean Claude. It's Jean.
It's Jean. Van Damme.
Jean-Claude Van Damme. All right, I'm not here for your
ridicule. No, I'm just.
(38:39):
I I went along with it, but it's.
Jean Jean Jean-Claude Van Damme.Jean-Claude Van Damme.
Yeah, Jean-Claude Van Damme, notJean or whatever you were
saying. I said Jean, I know, but Jean?
Jean. How have you you know who that
is? Everyone knows who Jean is.
I wonder if there was a poster of him doing his split.
Did you ever see that when he did a split in his fucking skin
(39:00):
tight jeans? Who's a better action star?
Though don't even, don't even say it.
Don't. Don't even say it exactly.
I mean, Speaking of Russia, right?
Don't say it, Don't say it. Go ahead.
No, I'm just asking. Who are you gonna say out of
who? Out of who you said, who you
said? Don't even say it.
I know who you're thinking of. Who?
Who? Nice little ponytail.
Steven Seagal. I'm gonna fuck.
(39:20):
I'm. Gonna beat your fucking face.
Who's better no of an action star.
Steven Seagal movies were fucking great.
For the shitty, no. Shitty.
No old action. Movies Jean Claude Jean Claude
Jean Jean Jean Jean. Now he's in Russia right now,
hanging out. Steve, Steven.
Seagal, Steven. Seagal is a loser.
No, there was no. He is, but the movies were
(39:43):
funny, dude. If you put one on you'll laugh
your ass off. Just sort of how bad they are.
It's funny. No.
It's like the Death Wish movies back in the 70s.
Oh, with the? Do with the mustache, Yeah.
Oh my God. People like hold on, Hold on,
hold on, hold on. Fuck Bronson.
Charles Bronson. Charles Bronson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very Charles Bronson esque.
(40:05):
All right, keep going. Certainly a product of the era.
Yeah, it was kind of funny that he said Jean, but I went with
it. Jean, John.
Jean OK, I got. I got.
I got fuck you and fuck you, allright.
Keep going. All right.
So yeah. That's so funny though.
A schizophrenic person talking to posters of Jean.
Claude Van Damme and his while he's.
(40:27):
Just chopping up bodies. Yeah.
Oh, that's sorry to the victims.All right, Keep going.
Rest in peace, All right? So.
Yeah. So the walls were adorned with
posters of kittens and actor Jean-Claude Van Damme and
scattered around where soda bottles filled with blood, a
copy of a popular Russian cookbook Man in the Kitchen, and
(40:49):
jars and jars filled with piecesof dried human skin and ears.
Aspect, which is actually a liquid stock made from human
bones. And most horrifying of all,
shashlik or kebabs on a stick, Nice in a pot with onions and
the meat from Edict Vasilevsky'sbody.
(41:12):
I mean, if you're gonna go humanflesh, yeah, make it fun.
Kebabs, Onion, little onion, green pepper.
I. Get it?
Makes sense, yeah. If you had to eat, If you had to
eat a person like, how would youprep it?
It would be a lean. It would be a lean cut.
What would a lean cut be? Yeah, what part would you eat?
The butt. Do you know what?
I honestly no. The butt would be fatty.
(41:33):
It would either be the butt or the thigh.
But a ham Hock imagine like a split pea soup.
And instead of using the ham Hock as the as imagine instead
of a ham Hock, right, you know, you throw the bone, the big ass
hawk into the the pot and then you boil it and you make the
split pee. You just put someone's ass cheek
right in the you do a split pee.Butt cheek.
(41:54):
Split pea soup with a butt cheek.
Split pea butt cheek. Split pea butt cheek.
I could go down with that. Probably be the best way I'm.
Probably going to smoke it. Smoke the butt a.
Smoke, I don't know, would a would a muscle be too?
Like. Too chewy?
I don't. Know how it works?
I don't know how. I've never ate a person before.
Like why? Why is a filet mignon so tender?
(42:17):
And like what part of the filet mignon is from the cow?
The tenderest part of the the animal is the least used, which
is like lamb, right? So lamb is a baby sheep or baby
baby sheep, right? A lamb.
(42:37):
I think that's right. Lamb so people like obsess over
lamb. Oh my God, Lamb is so good
because lamb is is a baby. It's like.
Veal, right? Or veal.
Yeah, it's. A baby cow, those fucking little
tiny, it's horrible. Yeah, they just chain them
outside of a little fucking. Right, because the muscles, the
muscles, the muscles don't develop.
(42:57):
Yeah, you know what I mean? So it's the most tender.
Sure, I just. Wonder I for one can't stand
fucking Lamb. No, I don't eat EUR or any of
that. Shit, no, can't stand it.
That sounds good. Euros.
Yeah, I love that. Like.
A You're a fucking savvy. You're eating a baby animal.
Oh my God. OK, we've shit on PETA the most
(43:19):
out of this podcast and you're sounding like a real sympathizer
right now. When he got promoted changed.
Dude, what's he got? Sergeant Man, what's up?
PC principle over here. Where's your Oakleys, buddy?
I do have Oakleys. I do have Oakleys, not white
ones though. Should I get white Oakleys?
No, please don't. Yes, get them.
(43:42):
Maybe I'll wear them on the nextpart.
All right, no, back to my question.
So what is it? You think a like a calf wouldn't
be good, right? That's a muscle that's used all
the time. A calf.
Like a human calf. It wouldn't be good, right?
It'd be very maybe like right here.
A breast. A breast?
Yeah. The.
Chest. Like a breast like above the.
(44:04):
No, you definitely got to go either the ass or the thigh,
but. The ass is still using muscle,
it's fatty and it's muscly. Well, are you, I mean, are you a
twerker? No but when you walk you can
feel your ass like maybe it's just me and I'm ripped.
I know, I'm sorry, but like. Are you making your ass clap?
(44:25):
All right, all right. Fuck it, I'm going split pea
soup with a ham instead of a hamHock.
I'm going a human ass. What?
Do you like an 80 year old man split pea?
Soup, listen. The listeners.
Are fucking ham on this split. Pea soup is fucking amazing.
All right, Sorry. All right.
Keep going. I'll take your word for it.
Yeah, we're, we're venturing off.
Sauce or no sauce dipping sauce.You gotta have sauce, yeah?
(44:47):
Honey mustard. Like honey mustard.
Yeah, BBQ make little. Nuggets.
OK, little. Human Nuggets.
Honey mustard is my go to dip. No, I like AI, I'm a big BBQ.
Spicy. Non spicy.
Spicy. Spicy.
Yeah, Yeah, definitely spicy. Sisone.
All right, Sisone Adobo. All right, so I'll.
Spanish it up a little bit. Yeah, sorry.
(45:08):
Keep going. Keep going, put some sasone.
Sasone a little. Sasone a little sofrita.
All right, so at first Kusakov refused to confess the police,
but he eventually admitted to killing the three men, right.
For those of you who who had lost track of what we're talking
about, this guy killed three menand he ate them.
(45:30):
So All right, so and. For the record, we're not
condoning cannibalism on this right podcast.
However, I'm not. Yeah, none of us would probably
eat people, right? However, if you are going to eat
people. Yeah, ham Hock.
Is the ass sort of like so? Yeah.
So when Kusakov, he was placed under arrest and he tried to to
(45:50):
bribe the blab, he tried to bribe the police, not with money
or not even with sexual favors. He tried to bribe them with some
human liver, which they declined.
You heard that? Did he say it was human or did
he just say? No, Yeah, he did.
He did, yeah. That's a schizophrenic person.
(46:12):
Like he's like, hey man, I got. I got liver.
It makes total sense. So with Kusakov in in custody,
police noted that Igor was he had a goatish animal smell,
which is common amongst known cannibals, as experts theorized
that this comes from the acrid sweat of a person who consumed
(46:34):
human meat, which then has an adverse chemical reaction
causing causing the foul smell to permeate throughout the body.
Oh, it's. Like a ferret.
Yeah. You know how like ferrets have
like the OR like certain animalshave the oily smell.
So if I start eating you, I'll start having like a.
Like a smell. Oil, right?
Oh, I wonder what that smells like.
Because our bodies aren't meant to consume human.
(46:57):
No, Yeah, she comes out of your body like has like an adverse
reaction to it which permeates through your.
Skin. Wonder what that smells like?
I'm so curious. So although.
What would you do? Oh yeah, go, go.
Give me what would you do if youactually knew what that smelt
like and you smelt it on somebody next to you?
I'm like. Give them a good ol like you.
(47:18):
You get in an Uber. I can't wink good, but give them
a good ol. Like I got you, I got you, you
get. Into an.
Uber I could never wink at a girl in a bar, you know?
He'd be like. I think you're having a stroke.
Yeah, fucking Gary. Fuck.
Yeah, Hey, baby. Hey.
Plus, I'm not tall, so my feet swing on bar stools, so imagine
(47:39):
me trying to wink at you while my feet enters the ground.
Something special. Look at him.
Oh, wait. So yeah, you get in a Uber and
you start smelling it. That's.
All you smell, where are you going?
That's crazy. I.
Guess Wow. And he's taking you home.
Wow, OK, he's not going to freak.
Are you going to get out of the Uber?
No get a lot of a gun, but it's OK.
(48:02):
All right. Can you say that again?
What do that again? Where are you going?
OK, all right, all right, there it is.
All right. And that's how criminal they.
Have am I? Am I the only person that knows
what, like if you got if you imagine, close your eyes real
quick. close your eyes real quick.
Yeah, you're getting in an Uber.Yep.
You smell a just. Stop, just stop.
Just stop. Just stop.
(48:23):
Go, go, go, go. All right.
So although Kusakov admitted to killing and eating the three
known victims, authorities suspect that there mean that
there may be many more because the amount of meat and other
body parts found in his apartment far exceeds what would
typically come from just the three bodies.
Dude. He was harvesting.
Yeah, so this brings us back to the beginning when Kusakoff was
(48:45):
sharing recipes with Doctor Ivanoff.
Now in his mind, Kusakoff believed that Doctor Ivanoff and
even some of the police officerswere fellow cannibals, which is
why he offered liver to the arresting officers, right?
So with Kusakov stating to Doctor Ivanoff, come on, we
understand each other, you're not going to do your Russian
(49:07):
accent. Come on, we understand each.
Other There you go. All right, you could Get Me Out
of here. We will go off together and do
things we like to do. Because he thinks everybody's a
cannibal, right? So Doctor Ivanoff smiles,
ensuring not to break the trust he earned with Cusico.
God that. 'D be such a fun job, dude.
(49:27):
Yeah, like the psychiatric guy, going in to talk to him just to
fuck with him, not Even so much fuck with him, but like to play
a part to like, get him to like talk and confess and try to get
down to it. I would love that gig, yeah.
That'd be good. Just to talk to the craziest
people live. Yeah, so.
Sympathize with him like yeah man, little liver, little lung
and. I get it.
I got you. Yeah.
Keep talking. Fry it up.
(49:48):
Fry it up. Get them all excited.
They're like dogs. They're like, all right, keep.
Going, they start humping each other anyways.
All right, so sadly, Kusakov goes on to explain that he had
tried to get psychiatric help for years but was always told to
take pills and that he didn't require hospital
hospitalization. Now, had he been given proper
(50:10):
psychiatric assistance, perhaps these three lives and possibly
more could have been saved. Now, as this interview draws to
a close, Kusakov rises from his his chair and says to Doctor
Ivanov, Hey, I like the look of the of the lawyer over there,
Speaking of the man nervously smoking his cigarettes, you
(50:31):
know, jotting down notes from the beginning of the story.
He's nice. He's got a good strong body.
What do you think? Yeah, think we can take him out
right now, you know? But Ilshat Kusakov was
eventually convicted in March of1997.
He was declared insane. He was sentenced to compulsory
(50:55):
treatment at the psychiatric hospital in Saint Petersburg.
Now, many sources say that Kusakov passed away in the early
2000s, but there is no definitive proof of his fate
since he was sentenced so. Yeah, dude, Russia doesn't
strike me as a place that would be like, yeah, we have complete
records of our inmates. Like you go if you're eating
(51:16):
people. That motherfucker was gone.
Yeah, he was in a labor camp up in.
Solitary up in yeah fucking Siberia area.
Hitting ice like everyday. Stranger Things fucking yeah I
got you. All right, so that'll do it for
fava beans and a nice Chianti from Criminal AF.
So a special thank you to Debbiefrom True Crime University for
(51:39):
sharing this story with us. Thank you, Debbie.
Yes, and thank you Debbie for Vanessa as well and.
Vanessa will with her pasties onand.
Her bandana skirt she's got. Forever be on the wall and 1st
off let's talk about this. I have to sit there next to this
thing knowing 5050% chance that Dave has put his Dick in that.
So thanks, Debbie. All right, admittedly.
(52:03):
Because he says no but I don't believe him so and because he
brought this today after I haven't, I haven't, I haven't
seen him in like a month I guess.
We haven't seen each other for nine months.
What are you talking? About for criminal AF, yeah,
we've seen each other outside ofway, but I that hasn't been back
in at the studio, the studio chloroform in a long time.
All right, you heard it here first.
(52:25):
There may have been a possibility that my penis was
inside. Vanessa.
Good old Vanessa here once at a minimum 5050 chance.
I like to keep it at 5050 because then I can just, I can
keep going, right? All right.
All right, so. Thanks, Debbie.
(52:45):
Yeah, so that'll do it for this episode.
Let us know what you all thoughtin this episode.
Comment on Good Pods or Spotify or leave us a review on Apple
Podcast. And thank you all for hanging
out with us. Now head on over to
criminalasfuck.com for all of your criminal AF needs.
Signing off from Studio Chloroform.
Keep your hand on a swivel and stay safe.
(53:06):
Till next time. See ya in case you didn't do it.
Yeah, there you go. And get ready for respectfully
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