June 9, 2025 • 49 mins
Betsy and Caroline reflect on how childhood trauma shapes adult lives, why people long to be truly heard, and the importance of offering love, attention, and time to others. Caroline also speaks about the transformative energy of words, the global mental health crisis, and the essence of trusting a higher power to reveal who we truly are.
They discuss Caroline’s books, It’s Time to Realize Light as the Cellular Structure of Your Body and The Real Cause of Suffering Mental Health Crisis Globally. Caroline donates proceeds from her books to support causes close to her heart. Her website is currently being updated, but you can connect with her via the links below.Caroline Kennedy healing interview sheds light on the global mental health crisis and offers hopeful, heart-centered approaches to emotional healing and spiritual well-being.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, everyone, this is Betsy Worthel. You're a host of
Chatting with Betsy. I'm Passier World Talk Radio Network, a
subsidiary of Global Media Network LLC our remonstrance to educate, enlighten,
and entertain. The views of the guests may not represent
those that the host of the station. Folks. I'm excited
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as always when I do my show. Today I have
with the Caroline Kennedy and not that Caroline Kennedy of
the Kennedy Family, the famous Kennedy family. This is Caroline Kennedy.
She is a holistic healer, counselor. She's a speaker. She's
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author and writer of It's Time to Realize Light as
the Cellular Structure of your Body and also the book
The Real Cause of Suffering Mental Health Crisis Globally. She
also is in the process of establishing a nonprofit collective
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Community of Healing Grace and I want to welcome Caroline
Kennedy to Chatting with Betty. Welcome carolinankive one.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Much for inviting me to speak on your show. My
dear Betsy, I really am gracious for this. I appreciate
your beautiful contenance as you share with others in this
realm of radio. It is a beautiful thing to do
to be able to share so delightfully what we do.
As a holistic healer, I'm guided to become more easy
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with myself, to speak with graciousness, to allow myself to
be content where I am, to allow myself to know
that in divine there is presence. In divine, there is grace,
In divine there is protection. We allow the space to
be healing space for those who are listening. We allow
ourselves to be gracious. We give thanks for this program.
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We give thanks for all the listeners, thanks for the
blessings in life. We give thanks for grace and purpose.
We give thanks for you, Bessie, and for all that
you're doing. We give thanks, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That is socialate, Caroline, and so grateful and blessed to
be able to have a platform to give people a
voice to be heard. I know when I wanted to
be heard, I wanted someone to interview me, to share
my story, wactually my husband's story or an hour story.
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Nobody would really not couldn't get an interview. And until
Jeannie White, who is the station manager now saw me
one of my videos and interviewed me and I'm so
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thankful for Loui and Coldwell, who CEO of Pastoral Talk
Radio Network, have started this internet radio station because nobody
would give her a chance and she believes in giving
people a chance to be heard.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So that excellent.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, So I'm so grateful to be working with two
wonderful women mentors. And if anyone you know out there listening,
if you want to be a host and chatting with Betsy,
just go on Passion World Talk radiomnetwork dot com contact
Willing Coldwell because they're looking for a host. And I'm
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really grateful, I really am.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I'm going to be a whole Sometimes I can
definitely to be a host. Sometimes I'm volunteering.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, now you have to discuss with Lilian and the Genie. Okay,
excuse me, uh, but it's great to have you on.
I know you're into mental health and actually this is May.
It's still May, and I can't believe how fast May
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is going by, and May is mental health awareness months.
So it's a great yes, a great time to have
you one. I just want to give a shout out
to the people you know in the US. If you
are in crisis, please call nine to eight eight is
this for the US. I'm not sure about Puerto Rico,
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but I know in the U the US also, I
want the audience to know it's okay not to be okay.
Sometimes we struggle, Sometimes we get depressed, sometimes we get sad.
Please consult your primary care physician in your area for
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mental health care referrals and references to line your book
at the title of your book really striking to me
the real cause of suffering mental health crisis globally. How
did you come up with that title?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I run through a little bit of that crisis myself,
and I've recovered from it. So it is what people
are suffering from. A lot of people are going through
different challenges and they don't know how to recuperate in a.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Very soft way.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So sometimes softness is needed when people feel anxiety. Sometimes
softness is needed. People need to feel that there are
others who can help them. People need to feel that
they are protected, that the others can help them when
they call for healing. They need to know that there's
someone like us who can listen, who can understand with
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a listening and discerning and provide answers. We provide answers,
but we provide solutions as well. Sometimes the solutions that
we provide is only a need for a listening ear.
Sometimes people just want to be understood. When people feel misunderstood, that.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is why they feel anxious.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If there are others who can understand when we speak,
that is how we get answers.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I agree. You know what, Carolyn, You said something so
important right now. People want to be heard, they want
to be understood. That's a golden nugget right there. How true?
Is that?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's what it is. That is true.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That is very, very true, And it's very frustrating when
you are not being heard and you're not being understood.
I know that from personal experience.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is very that is true when people are fishing challenges
in life. When people are facing challenges, they would like
a solution to the challenge.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They would like a fix.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
They would like solutions where they can be navigating their
life with grace and ease. They want to be navigating
their life with ease and grace. Sometimes the answers do
not always come easy, you know, Betsy. Sometimes the answers
takes a while. In the divine grace that I hope,
answers come sometimes immediately. Sometimes answers takes are there too,
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but answers are always there. Sometimes we're flowing with abundance
and grace and ease, but then sometimes there's a little
peck or there's a little challenge that needs to soften.
Sometimes the words that we speak and soften. Our words
are powerful, you know, Betsy. Every single word that we
vocalize is very, very powerful. We have grace, we have ease,
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we have authenticity. In the divine, there's authenticity, there is purity,
But we cannot always flow like that as a human
being on art. We cannot always flow at ease and
grace because there are things that come to us. But
we come back to a place of peace, We come
back to a place where there's graciousness. We allow that
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to be the voice that is healing. The voice that
heals knows, and when we're easing suffering, we know what
it feels like to suffer and we can speak in
that voice. But then we realise that and we go
back to ease and grace, We go back to protection,
we go back to the love that is there. There
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is love, and love is always the answer. Love is
always the key. Everyone is looking to be accepted, Everyone
is looking for love, and that is usually the answer
to love unconditionally, to be a beacon of hope, to
be a beacon of light for others.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh that Caroline, if you were in front of me
right now, I would be hugging you girl. That is
so that is so true. And I always say, like
when my husband has going through his old timer's journey,
and I would tell people love wins love. Love does
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not go away.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The love, the vibrations of love is so potent, it
is so far of the direct thing that we need
just the word love to hold onto it. That's what
separates us from things that cause us to feel anxiousness.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Love is the key. Love is the answer.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Absolutely. I always this is my philosophy, folks, Okay, this
is what I think. I truly believe that God made
hearing the last sense to leave us so we could
hear our loved ones tell us they love us when
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we are dying, so we know that someone is there.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
True, we have to hear.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We have to know that there is love. We have
to know that there is love. We have to know.
We have to listen and know that there is love.
When we listen and we know that there is love.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There's purity there.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Our words are potent, Our words are powerful. Love in
essence is the answer. Love in essence is the key,
and that is a sacred, sacred message.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Absolutely, and I love that you said, Caroline, that words
are powerful because they are. And you know, even the
Bible talks about the tongue as being a sword, and
you hurt people with when you're mean with words. So always,
you know, think about what you say before you say it,
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because you can't take your words back, and we could.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Either be Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Are what we have as gate keepers in the light.
Our words are what we have to heal. We use
our words in a projected way to heal others. Words
are what we used to heal. Words in the Bible
speaks of truth. Words in the Bible give meaning to everything.
Words are extremely, extremely potent.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
When you have a.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Voice for a radio show, words are extremely important. Words
hold the keys and the answers. What we write, what
we speak, what we see. And that is my gift to.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That is so true. I mean when you know you
think back when you were a child and if your
parent was their temper as mine did, and they said
things maybe they didn't mean it, but it's stuck with us,
or if you are said, you know, mean things to
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your own child, or your partner or your spouse, you
can't say. You can say yourself, but those words already
escaped your mouth. They can't take that back. And Carolina,
I think people need to realize with our words, we
either create positive ripples or negative ripples. And that's why
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it's so important. Again I'll say to think before you speak,
and speak with love God, with love.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Excuse me, absolutely, absolutely, that is what we need. It's
always the wounds of the child that comes back to
be healed in the adults.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
The wounds of the.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Child, the trauma of the child, in little children, babies, infants, toddlers,
as you grow to age seven, those sort of foundational
years that guide us, that form us, that help us
to become who we are. So when we have parents
that be still loving us to be so understanding, help
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us to filter the truth, to help us to filter
the healing when we feel discomforted as children, When our
mothers show us love, when our fathers show us love,
we heal quickly the wongs of the child, and we
grow up to be very prosperous and productive adults. When
we do not have those things that are showered on
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us by our parents, those wombs of the child is
what we have to process as adults, Those things that
can entrap us as we grow up to be adults,
Those foundational years that we face, especially from bird to
age seven or eight, those are the years that has
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the essence of who we are. And as we grow
into adulthood, these things can follow us. When we are
able to process our feelings in a very meaningful way,
that is what directs our pasts, that is what causes
us to be self actualized in a meaningful way. And
even as we are on this path of self actualization,
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shadows come to show us to teach us lessons, to
teach us lessons of the soul that we need to
go on with life. And when we have our gifts,
we shower others with our gifts. We can be counselors,
we can be holistic healers, but we still have our
life to live. And this is the path that I
am on, and this is the path that I take,
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and this is the journey that I love. It is
that it is a delight to be a student of life,
to be on the path of self actualization. But yet
to be a student to learn from each encounter that
we have with others that teaches us that they are
things that cause us to go back sometimes, but we
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stay with grace, we stay with honesty, We stay with
the dedication of the divine, and this is what takes
us easily to the path of knowing, on the path
of righteousness, on the path to glory.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That percuse, that sounds really good. How did you become
a holistic healer?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It was quite a journey where I followed other people
who were self actualized. There are many there that are enlightened,
or they can call themselves simply students of life where
you help yourself to achieve this by slowly leaning into
your inner goodness. Your inner goodness are the things that
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cause you to become more aware of what others are
facing in their life. To have more compassion, in my case,
to have more compassion for suffering, for people who are suffering,
for people who have gone through struggles, To allow.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Myself to face things that I had to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Face as a child as an earthend to become an
adult who was full of compassion. I was generous in
my nature to the best of my ability. I read
a lot of good books. As I work with United Nations,
I had a lot of time to ponder on things
that took me to many parts of the world, many
many parts of the world. I've traveled extensively. As I
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work with United Nations, I experienced extreme poverty, but I
also experience extreme wealth. As a worker that supported United Nations,
I was exposed to many things in life that caused
me to look at life and be reflective, to be humble,
to be humble in my journey of life.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So that is what took me here to enlightenment.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But I like to say actualization, and I like to
say that I am a student of life.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I like that. I think I think we all are.
Through the life of me. We learn every day and
the day we stop learning, to me, we stop living.
I know I'm I'm learning. I'm learning something new all
the time. And I agree that Carlin, like my experience
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as a caregiver has made it really changed my life.
And I realized what my gifts were, which I didn't know.
So I really believe, and this might sound bulu to
some people, but I believe that God used mat with
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my husband to bring me where I am. I learned
so much through that journey which has helped me help
other people. And my husband's life has touched so many
people and they learned from you know, the videos that
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I did that I was so deeply touched to. Now
that Math's life has helped other people.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That is amazing that Math has taught you many lessons.
So as you're in our journey with what you have,
being a caregiver is an excellent way to help others
have to actualize. Being a caregiver is an excellent way
to help older people, especially we can help young children.
But when we're helping older people in the softness of
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life to heal and to become better, we have to
be patient with them. We have to be excellent listeners.
We have to be good stewards with what we are given.
Sometimes as caregivers, many many are not patient enough. We
have to be patient. We have to be polite. We
have to have compassion.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
We have to be.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Generous with our time. We have to be useful with
our tongue. We have to give praise often. We have
to speak soft and gentle with others. We have to
be patient with them and their sufferings.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh, absolutely, And yeah, it took me a long time
for this to think into my head and that journey.
But he was feed off of whatever energy I was
showing stuff. I was anxious, he became anxious. And it
took me a one time to realize that. And I
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got to thinking, you know, I really have to change
my energy. I can't have that anxious because it's to
make it that anxious. I had to be more.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Comforble that these are really just vibrational patterns in our lives. Yes,
just a vibrational pattern in our lives that comes sometimes,
it settles there. But when we recognize anxiousness as just
a vibrational pattern, we can release it immediately because.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
We say, that is not me. I'm not anxious.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I can see that as anxiousness, but that is not
me at the core of my being. I'm peace, I'm gentle,
I'm whole. I am not anxiousness. I recognize what anxiousness.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It is just a feel.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's just a vibrational pattern that comes sometimes. And as
a gifted and holistic healer, I can recognize patterns.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I see them.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I see patterns when they come, and I release them
immediately because I know that that is not me. It's
a pattern that comes and it releases itself immediately. So
in my journey, I've written six books. I've published six
books in my journey. The first book that I published
was Emerging to the It is the book that I
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called I'm not sure if I share.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That book with you.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It is called walking away from Pain and Emerging to
the Light. It is me walking away from the painful
shadows that I have had to face as I became
more actualized in my my own endeavor. It is me
walking away from the difficult challenges that the patterns that
come to us with anxiety, with feelings of shame, with
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feelings of guilt. Those are patterns that come to us.
Sometimes when we don't recognize these patterns, we allow them
to enfold too long with our bodies. But we don't
have to stick with those patterns. We know that those
are patterns from the lineage that we come from. When
we come from patterns of lineage that had too many
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patterns that were negating our life force, we can go
back and say that is not me. I recognize my peace.
I recognize my place in this world as a place
that holds peace, as a place that holds forgiveness as
a place that is gracious. When I recognize patterns that
are not me, I do not encounter myself for a
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long time. I release them with others as I see them.
I'm able to see the aura. I'm able to see
the field. I'm able to clear the field. So that
is my gift, that is my gift as one who
is a holistic healer. I'm able to clear the pathway
for others. I'm able to hold the space and clear
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the pathway.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm able to.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Distinguish myself as someone who can recognize patterns. They come
in shapes, they come in colors, they come as vibrational fields.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And then I clear the pathway.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I release it. I release it. I release it right now.
Any passage of time with Betsy that I speak about,
I release any pathway that is not clear, I release
it now gently, gently, gently, I release that.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I release that.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I release that, And now I get back to grace,
and I get back to graciousness, and I allow dear
Betsy to ask another question.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Uh, yeah, I'm interested in you work with the new
men in our nations. What did you do, Carolin?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I served as a communications specialist.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's interesting. Traveled extensively.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, I traveled extensively globally. I traveled to about fifty
six countries. I worked in many places. I worked throughout Africa.
I worked in Africa, I worked in East Africa and
the Sudan. I worked in Southern Africa in Zambia. I
work in Western Africa in Sira Leone. But I traveled
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extensively around Africa while I was there. Some of it
was for work and some of it was just to
see the police. I also worked in Asia. I lived in.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
India, I lived in Nepal.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I lived in East Timore, and these are places that
I worked. I also worked in Bangladesh, and these are
places that I work. And I live with United Nations
and also for different things. But I also traveled a
lot in Asia as well.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
America.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I worked in South America, I worked in Central America.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I lived on work different places in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That sounds like a very interesting job. I'm sure you
learned so much about all these different cultures.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And yeah, I had to. I had to win my work.
I had to learn about the culture. I had to
learn about the politics because my work was communications, but
it was also related to governance, good governance.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That that is yes, good to know because I know
there was a lot of unrest uh in Africa at
different times with the different.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Iraq was a it was.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Iraq was a pretty much a war zone when I
was there, but the war zone it was easy. But
I did work for six months in Iraq as well,
so I understand the complex nature of life and I
understand how difficult it is to work in places where
there was war and then there was ease, and then
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to go there to help to support the people there,
to provide a voice for them, to speak for them,
to speak as a voice for the United Nations, but
then to speak for people and to work with government
agencies and those that were working for peace. So I
understand some of the things in the global in the
global feel what is happening. I understand the national context.
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I understand bilateral relations, and I understand many things that
has to do with international law and international relations. I
understand what it is to work in election feeld where
there's heightened tension. I understand how people survive, how people
live and survive in places like that.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well deal with a very interesting, i would say, exciting life.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
A bit of I also have a bit of where
I worked as a communications specialist. I did some work
with writing for the newspaper back in my country, Guyana,
I did. I did serve as a radio announcer producer
where I learned the ethics of the radio. And I
worked a little bit as a radio announcer producer and
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a little bit on television. Not much, but a little
bit to get me to know what it is to
function really on a national radio station and serve as
a radio announcer producer.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, you are multi talented and gifted, Caroline, that that
is one of all I've just Oh, I can't think
of person's last name. I had interview someone back and
I think it was January February who worked on internationally.
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She worked internationally and she's a professor at Harvard and
she wrote a book about, you know, getting into into
helping people such as through United Nations and other organizations.
Except my mond just went blank of the name of
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the name of the person. What happened Sometimes I remember
her first name, but nonetheless, but that's very important and
I think Caroline that to me, in my opinion, it's
so important to have that uh spirit of service for people.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Helping.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
You have to be in your service.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You have to be humble in your service when you're
serving in the United Nations because it's it's a job
of prestige and you have a lot of good things
happening to you because you're able to travel and move freely.
You're able to go to countries and staying nice places,
but then you have to live with.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Those people who are suffering as well.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And in your job you get to have nice offices,
but then you see you go in the field and
you see the suffering of people. So there's a dichotomy there.
You're serving that you're serving with United Nations as an
ambassador for peace. As a United Nations staff, you're an
ambassador for peace. You're holding this space for peace and
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generosity and goodness because it's always providing support for the
people in the countries you're serving. So you have to
weigh in the balance to say how much can I give,
how much compassion can I give to these people that
I'm serving highest level and then at the lowest level. Again,
there are different stratas in society, but we release that
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because you're able to speak with officials from the government,
you're able to speak with NGOs, you're able to speak
with the local staff, and then you're able to speak
with the people who are suffering on the ground, the
people that you're there to serve.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you find, Caroline, that in today's world, compassion is nothing,
It's not like used to be. Do you find people
who are less compassionate?
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Because the systems in our societies are not geared towards
having more compassion for people. It is geared towards making money.
It is geared towards just making money and being in
a space of comparative analysis where I am better than you,
so I should be striving just to be better than
you and to look down on you. But more compassion
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means we do not try to compare, but we say
that we're equal. Let us be equal, Let us show compassion.
If someone is struggling, let us show compassion. Why is
this person displaying such a behavior? How can I help
this person to become a better human being? How can
I How can I transfer what I'm feeling a feeling
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of love, a feeling of unconditional love, and show compassion,
and that would be reflect it right back at you
as you show it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, that is a definitely. I agree with that. I
think sometimes we have lost our humanity. I'm love and
care for each other and you know, I mean I
am a child of the you know, sixties and seventies
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to grow up then, and you know, I still believe
today at my age that you know, I do believe
in and peace, love and brotherhood, and I do believe
that we all want the same things. We all want
to live in safety. We all want to be loved
and accepted and treated with respect and dignity. And it's like,
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if we all want that, then why don't we all
do it?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The technology that we have is like a double edged sword.
Is providing a lot of things for us to communicate
in a more holistic way, in a soft and gentle way.
It is providing the platform for us to have instant communication.
But in that they're also parallels there where people are
just not focusing.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
On the right things that they want to do.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They're caught up too much with the technology and what
it is providing at a superficial level. That is just
one way of looking at it. In our school system
and our health systems, things that are in place there
that are not correct for our society to progress were
intricate truth that should be told to us. The honorable
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thing to do is to show compassion, to have unconditional love,
To have a field of unconditional love always flowing to us,
to our children, to allow them to be good steward
in their life. So when they go to school, to
show compassion, to hold the feel of kindness always for
the teachers, to show kindness and compassion, To be of
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a generous nature with our children. To protect our children.
What is taught in the schools, How much of it
is real truth? What can we do to eliminate things
that are not said in the truthful way?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
How can we.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yield these broken pieces of ourselves? How can we protect
the family? The family is integral to society. How can
we protect our families? How can we protect our families?
Families are not by the way. It is the family
that holds the systems in place. Nurturing families in a
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protective way, have the husband and the wife and the children,
and as a support of the family system. Societies are
built on that same foundation of the family. That is
what we should speak about, not having too many fractured families,
but having families that are blossoming well. Families should live
in spaces that are healing. There should be more healing
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spaces around. There should be more nurturing spaces around. There
should be more natural spaces around for us to live in.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yes, and I feel too, Caroline. That and today's world.
You know, we're connection and we're more connected, easily connected
to each other, we're also very disconnected with each other.
And you know, people are go out, you see people
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go out to eat, they're at with their children. They're
not even paying attention to that people they're with, They're
on their phone and they're just so disconnected.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So that in the end, on the nature that the
phone is offering, the phone can be very an instrument
that is used for peace, for understanding, forgiving, for loving,
for sharing, But it is the likes that the people
are looking for, Likes they're looking for to present the
shadow side of who they are. They don't present the
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real side of who they are with the phones. With
social media, a lot of the social media platforms are
there to provide a false sense of who we are,
and that is what is subtracting from our lives. Having
all the games that the children are playing, a lot
of the games are bamboozled with things that have caused fear.
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A lot of the games that little children are playing
on their tablets on their phones are not good for them.
A lot of the adults are wasting a lot of
time on their phone and social media, on social media
platforms and not focusing on what the family needs. So
these are the things that cause fractured family patterns, and
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that is what needs feeling. We need to heal the
fractured family patterns. We need to have children who feel safe.
We have We need to have children who need to
feel safe at home, feel safe in the home, feel safe.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
In the schools.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Our healthcare system need to be geared to offer solutions, solutions, solutions.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh absolutely, that is definitely for sure. And then you
have people you know on social media. I mean social
media could be great, folks, and it also can not
be great. I call these people in keyboard bullies because
they could be very mean on their keyboard because they're
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not facing the person in person. And some people just
can be so mean using their words, as we talked
about before. And do you definitely see that on social media?
Cal I, let me ask you about your other book,
because I have a picture of that book. It's time
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to realize light as the cellular structure of your body.
What is that book about and how did you come
out with that tile.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
That book is about understanding the light that we see
flowing to us, the light from the sun as it
flows to us, it is bringing photon light to us.
It is pure intelligence. But then there's also the negation there.
So the light that is flowing, it is purified, and
that is divine. The light that is purified, it is flowing.
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Many streams of intelligence is flowing to us. But we
want to flow with the divine as much as possible.
When we're flowing with the divine, it is coming to
us in many different angles and shapes and patterns. So
the Divine is coming in lineage, but it is also
coming in a purified way in the lineage that we
whold from ancient times to now. The Divine is purifying.
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It's flowing with its ebb and flow. It's coming, always
always coming to us. It's flowing, it's flowing. It's flowing
bringing goodness, bringing hope, bringing living waters of kindness, refreshing
our bodies, refreshing our souls, refreshing our minds. Always flowing
with the divine is the best thing to do. To
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be always flowing with the divine. Divine simply means pure intelligence.
Divine means pure intelligence. Pure intelligence is what we're aspiring
to be. To flowing with the divine nature of who
we are. We find that in the abundance and the richness.
As we look outside and we see the bountiful trees.
As the wind is blowing, it's reminding us of our breadth.
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It is reminding us that each breath we take, we
should be grateful for it. We should be gracious. We
should be gracious for the wind, for the things that
we see, things that we don't see. We should be
gracious for the ocean, for the waters, for the rivers.
This is how nature is flowing. This is the bountiful
nature of the divine. As we see the trees, the
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trees are planted there their networks of trees. That is
holding space for us. The trees should be more, there
should be plenty full because the oxygen from the trees,
it gives us purified air.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
So as we.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Flow, and we flow with the light that is flowing
in our bodies. This is what we call the light
the light is healing, it is purifying, it is protecting.
But our words help us to flow with more ease
and grace. As we flow with the light of the divine,
we always flow with the intelligence that is pure. And
that is what the book is all about. Realizing that
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light is the cellular structure of the body is part
of it, but there is much more to it. And
when you read the book, you would understand that it
is flowing. It is flowing in time, in space. Would
ease and grace it ease and grace.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
It is flowing.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
That sounds beautiful. Speaking of breeze today, it's a may
have a nice breeze here in New Jersey, And of
course I've seen, you know, trees sway in the breeze.
But the older I get, Caroline, I really am more
entuned and more grateful for the things around me that
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I took for granted. You know, I really enjoy now
filling a breeze on the scene, the trees and the leaves,
you know, blowing in the wind, to see the flowers,
they hear the birds singing. I have such a new
appreciation for life at the age of sixty seven than
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I ever had before because I realized wonderful.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You know, when we look at the beautiful birds and
we listen to the bird songs, the bird songs are
bringing us home. The birds should be given the space
to live with ease. A lot of us we are
taking up some of the space that the bird live in.
But the birds like to be in the trees. The
bird like to flow. They bring beautiful songs for us
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in the mornings and during the daytime, and during the summertime.
They're there cheering us on bringing beautiful songs. If we
pay attention to the birds, we can learn a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
We really can learn a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, I'd love to hear them chirping to each other,
you know, kind of communicating to each other. And you know,
I never really fully appreciated that before until recently. And
you know, folks, life is short and life is precious,
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and I wish you didn't take me until I was
in my sixties to realize that. But it's never too late.
And just you know, if I could just encourage people
to take the time to listen to the birds. Thing
smell a rose, you know they say, take time to
sell the flowers something like that. It's so important and
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and you know, put your phones away and pay attention
and live in a moment with whoever you are with
the best gifts we could.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Get sometimes trying to phone off, starting the phone off,
and pay attention, to persevere with, have compassion, have love,
use the time. Why we have our meals without the phone,
have our meals without the television projecting negativity. The negativity
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that is coming through on the television with the news
programs is very very.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Bad for us.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Constantly listening to the news is very very negative to
our life force. So we have to be careful with
the choices that we make with the hours that we
have in the day. How do we choose to spend
our time? What do we choose to listen to? Because
words have vibration, they're beautiful things that we can listen
to to nurture our souls, to nurture our bodies, to
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have our minds project beautiful positivity. Well, we have the choice.
We have the choice on what we do, what do
we choose to look at? What do you choose?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
And the different.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That is all the difference in the world.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
My dear Betsy, Oh, I agree, Caroline, because you know,
if you fill your mind with negative that's what you're
going to spew out. It took me a one time
to learn that too. But you know, the best guess
we could give someone other than love, it's time.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
That is true, my dear Messy. That is true. When
we give time, we give it in a gracious way.
We give it without begrudging them that I'm giving you
an hour or two hours of my time. We listen keenly,
We listen with understanding. When we give time, we support
as much as we can. If we're offering food, we
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give our best of it. If we are offering time,
if we are offering coffee or just some cookies, we
give the best of it. Even if it's just listening
to them speak, we give the best of it, and
we often support as best as we can. We allow
our minds to be attuned to what the divine is offering,
and that is how we get to pure intelligence. That
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is how we allow ourselves to flow with ease and
with grace. We always want to flow at ease and grace.
We always want to be grace. We always want to
have the loving divine presence around us that causes us
to flow and cause our bodies to heal naturally. We
don't feel fatigued, we don't feel anxious, we feel ease
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and grace with others.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I like that. I like that a lot, Carolin. Where
can people get in touch with you and for your services?
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (44:28):
A simple phone call they can get. My website is
still being attuned there. It's there, but I have to
get some attunement to it. So right now you can
reach me on my number three or two two five
zero zero five ninety six. I have LinkedIn presence. I
have a Facebook presence. So these are spaces that I
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hold in the name Caroline Kennedy. In other spaces that
I hold, I usually have one on one and sometimes
group healing them I do, but I would have sessions
from time to time, and I would have sometimes events
where I project myself on social media and do healing.
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My books are available on Amazon in the name of
Caroline and Kennedy, and the six books that I wrote
are there, and they're also on Barns and Nobles, Cobo, Rakotin.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And they're on Google Books. Some of my books.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Are offered free of charge. You just have to download
it if you have Kindled. But I would be doing
some complimentaries where I'll be giving away like five hundred
copies of some of the books where you can just
download it and you'll be able to read them. That
would be coming up soon for people who are interested
in reading. The books are all electronic. You can have
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hard copies and soft copies, but I would be offering
complimentary where I can give away like five hundred electronic
copies where you can download the books for free and
read them. My books are very, very very very profound
in the way they're written. They're flowing with ease and
grace in the divine. That means they're flowing with aptitude
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of what is needed now. The book that I wrote,
The Essence of Time in Resonance with Mother Earth, speaks
about the ocean, how our oceans need to be protected,
how our Earth needs to be protected. Lots of things
that are happening on the Earth today. We need to
be more careful with the way we use our resources,
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with the way we spend our time and the things
that we consume, whether it's what we listen to or
what we eat. This is what is going to save
and protect us. This is what is going to heal
and nurture our bodies.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yes, I absolutely agree. We have to take care of
our environment for sure. Well, Caroline and I really enjoyed
talking to you today and thank you for coming on
and spending time with me and sharing about your life
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and your work. It was such a pleasure, so thank you.
I want to encourage the audience get in touch with
Caroline Kennedy. All the information about Caroline Kennedy will be
in the blind that Genie White, who's the station manager
our writes and Gennie produces the show, and Lilian Caldwell
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Seeella Petual Talk Radio makes it all possible. And I
also want to thank you the listeners. Thank you for listening.
Subscribing if you don't already subscribe to Chatting with Betsy,
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fields that are on my show, and I'm just grateful
to be able to help others know that you're not alone.
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There are people going through the same situation. And feel
the same way. They just don't talk about it. But
we all have so much in common, and folks, you
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as always when I do my show. Today I have
with the Caroline Kennedy and not that Caroline Kennedy of
the Kennedy Family, the famous Kennedy family. This is Caroline Kennedy.
She is a holistic healer, counselor. She's a speaker. She's
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author and writer of It's Time to Realize Light as
the Cellular Structure of your Body and also the book
The Real Cause of Suffering Mental Health Crisis Globally. She
also is in the process of establishing a nonprofit collective
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Community of Healing Grace and I want to welcome Caroline
Kennedy to Chatting with Betty. Welcome carolinankive one.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Much for inviting me to speak on your show. My
dear Betsy, I really am gracious for this. I appreciate
your beautiful contenance as you share with others in this
realm of radio. It is a beautiful thing to do
to be able to share so delightfully what we do.
As a holistic healer, I'm guided to become more easy
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with myself, to speak with graciousness, to allow myself to
be content where I am, to allow myself to know
that in divine there is presence. In divine, there is grace,
In divine there is protection. We allow the space to
be healing space for those who are listening. We allow
ourselves to be gracious. We give thanks for this program.
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We give thanks for all the listeners, thanks for the
blessings in life. We give thanks for grace and purpose.
We give thanks for you, Bessie, and for all that
you're doing. We give thanks, Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
That is socialate, Caroline, and so grateful and blessed to
be able to have a platform to give people a
voice to be heard. I know when I wanted to
be heard, I wanted someone to interview me, to share
my story, wactually my husband's story or an hour story.
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Nobody would really not couldn't get an interview. And until
Jeannie White, who is the station manager now saw me
one of my videos and interviewed me and I'm so
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thankful for Loui and Coldwell, who CEO of Pastoral Talk
Radio Network, have started this internet radio station because nobody
would give her a chance and she believes in giving
people a chance to be heard.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So that excellent.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, So I'm so grateful to be working with two
wonderful women mentors. And if anyone you know out there listening,
if you want to be a host and chatting with Betsy,
just go on Passion World Talk radiomnetwork dot com contact
Willing Coldwell because they're looking for a host. And I'm
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really grateful, I really am.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I'm going to be a whole Sometimes I can
definitely to be a host. Sometimes I'm volunteering.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, now you have to discuss with Lilian and the Genie. Okay,
excuse me, uh, but it's great to have you on.
I know you're into mental health and actually this is May.
It's still May, and I can't believe how fast May
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is going by, and May is mental health awareness months.
So it's a great yes, a great time to have
you one. I just want to give a shout out
to the people you know in the US. If you
are in crisis, please call nine to eight eight is
this for the US. I'm not sure about Puerto Rico,
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but I know in the U the US also, I
want the audience to know it's okay not to be okay.
Sometimes we struggle, Sometimes we get depressed, sometimes we get sad.
Please consult your primary care physician in your area for
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mental health care referrals and references to line your book
at the title of your book really striking to me
the real cause of suffering mental health crisis globally. How
did you come up with that title?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I run through a little bit of that crisis myself,
and I've recovered from it. So it is what people
are suffering from. A lot of people are going through
different challenges and they don't know how to recuperate in a.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Very soft way.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
So sometimes softness is needed when people feel anxiety. Sometimes
softness is needed. People need to feel that there are
others who can help them. People need to feel that
they are protected, that the others can help them when
they call for healing. They need to know that there's
someone like us who can listen, who can understand with
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a listening and discerning and provide answers. We provide answers,
but we provide solutions as well. Sometimes the solutions that
we provide is only a need for a listening ear.
Sometimes people just want to be understood. When people feel misunderstood, that.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is why they feel anxious.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
If there are others who can understand when we speak,
that is how we get answers.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I agree. You know what, Carolyn, You said something so
important right now. People want to be heard, they want
to be understood. That's a golden nugget right there. How true?
Is that?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
That's what it is. That is true.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
That is very, very true, And it's very frustrating when
you are not being heard and you're not being understood.
I know that from personal experience.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Is very that is true when people are fishing challenges
in life. When people are facing challenges, they would like
a solution to the challenge.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
They would like a fix.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
They would like solutions where they can be navigating their
life with grace and ease. They want to be navigating
their life with ease and grace. Sometimes the answers do
not always come easy, you know, Betsy. Sometimes the answers
takes a while. In the divine grace that I hope,
answers come sometimes immediately. Sometimes answers takes are there too,
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but answers are always there. Sometimes we're flowing with abundance
and grace and ease, but then sometimes there's a little
peck or there's a little challenge that needs to soften.
Sometimes the words that we speak and soften. Our words
are powerful, you know, Betsy. Every single word that we
vocalize is very, very powerful. We have grace, we have ease,
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we have authenticity. In the divine, there's authenticity, there is purity,
But we cannot always flow like that as a human
being on art. We cannot always flow at ease and
grace because there are things that come to us. But
we come back to a place of peace, We come
back to a place where there's graciousness. We allow that
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to be the voice that is healing. The voice that
heals knows, and when we're easing suffering, we know what
it feels like to suffer and we can speak in
that voice. But then we realise that and we go
back to ease and grace, We go back to protection,
we go back to the love that is there. There
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is love, and love is always the answer. Love is
always the key. Everyone is looking to be accepted, Everyone
is looking for love, and that is usually the answer
to love unconditionally, to be a beacon of hope, to
be a beacon of light for others.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh that Caroline, if you were in front of me
right now, I would be hugging you girl. That is
so that is so true. And I always say, like
when my husband has going through his old timer's journey,
and I would tell people love wins love. Love does
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not go away.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The love, the vibrations of love is so potent, it
is so far of the direct thing that we need
just the word love to hold onto it. That's what
separates us from things that cause us to feel anxiousness.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Love is the key. Love is the answer.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Absolutely. I always this is my philosophy, folks, Okay, this
is what I think. I truly believe that God made
hearing the last sense to leave us so we could
hear our loved ones tell us they love us when
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we are dying, so we know that someone is there.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
True, we have to hear.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We have to know that there is love. We have
to know that there is love. We have to know.
We have to listen and know that there is love.
When we listen and we know that there is love.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
There's purity there.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Our words are potent, Our words are powerful. Love in
essence is the answer. Love in essence is the key,
and that is a sacred, sacred message.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Absolutely, and I love that you said, Caroline, that words
are powerful because they are. And you know, even the
Bible talks about the tongue as being a sword, and
you hurt people with when you're mean with words. So always,
you know, think about what you say before you say it,
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because you can't take your words back, and we could.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Either be Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Are what we have as gate keepers in the light.
Our words are what we have to heal. We use
our words in a projected way to heal others. Words
are what we used to heal. Words in the Bible
speaks of truth. Words in the Bible give meaning to everything.
Words are extremely, extremely potent.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
When you have a.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Voice for a radio show, words are extremely important. Words
hold the keys and the answers. What we write, what
we speak, what we see. And that is my gift to.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
That is so true. I mean when you know you
think back when you were a child and if your
parent was their temper as mine did, and they said
things maybe they didn't mean it, but it's stuck with us,
or if you are said, you know, mean things to
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your own child, or your partner or your spouse, you
can't say. You can say yourself, but those words already
escaped your mouth. They can't take that back. And Carolina,
I think people need to realize with our words, we
either create positive ripples or negative ripples. And that's why
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it's so important. Again I'll say to think before you speak,
and speak with love God, with love.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Excuse me, absolutely, absolutely, that is what we need. It's
always the wounds of the child that comes back to
be healed in the adults.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
The wounds of the.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Child, the trauma of the child, in little children, babies, infants, toddlers,
as you grow to age seven, those sort of foundational
years that guide us, that form us, that help us
to become who we are. So when we have parents
that be still loving us to be so understanding, help
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us to filter the truth, to help us to filter
the healing when we feel discomforted as children, When our
mothers show us love, when our fathers show us love,
we heal quickly the wongs of the child, and we
grow up to be very prosperous and productive adults. When
we do not have those things that are showered on
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us by our parents, those wombs of the child is
what we have to process as adults, Those things that
can entrap us as we grow up to be adults,
Those foundational years that we face, especially from bird to
age seven or eight, those are the years that has
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the essence of who we are. And as we grow
into adulthood, these things can follow us. When we are
able to process our feelings in a very meaningful way,
that is what directs our pasts, that is what causes
us to be self actualized in a meaningful way. And
even as we are on this path of self actualization,
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shadows come to show us to teach us lessons, to
teach us lessons of the soul that we need to
go on with life. And when we have our gifts,
we shower others with our gifts. We can be counselors,
we can be holistic healers, but we still have our
life to live. And this is the path that I
am on, and this is the path that I take,
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and this is the journey that I love. It is
that it is a delight to be a student of life,
to be on the path of self actualization. But yet
to be a student to learn from each encounter that
we have with others that teaches us that they are
things that cause us to go back sometimes, but we
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stay with grace, we stay with honesty, We stay with
the dedication of the divine, and this is what takes
us easily to the path of knowing, on the path
of righteousness, on the path to glory.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
That percuse, that sounds really good. How did you become
a holistic healer?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
It was quite a journey where I followed other people
who were self actualized. There are many there that are enlightened,
or they can call themselves simply students of life where
you help yourself to achieve this by slowly leaning into
your inner goodness. Your inner goodness are the things that
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cause you to become more aware of what others are
facing in their life. To have more compassion, in my case,
to have more compassion for suffering, for people who are suffering,
for people who have gone through struggles, To allow.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Myself to face things that I had to.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Face as a child as an earthend to become an
adult who was full of compassion. I was generous in
my nature to the best of my ability. I read
a lot of good books. As I work with United Nations,
I had a lot of time to ponder on things
that took me to many parts of the world, many
many parts of the world. I've traveled extensively. As I
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work with United Nations, I experienced extreme poverty, but I
also experience extreme wealth. As a worker that supported United Nations,
I was exposed to many things in life that caused
me to look at life and be reflective, to be humble,
to be humble in my journey of life.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
So that is what took me here to enlightenment.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
But I like to say actualization, and I like to
say that I am a student of life.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I like that. I think I think we all are.
Through the life of me. We learn every day and
the day we stop learning, to me, we stop living.
I know I'm I'm learning. I'm learning something new all
the time. And I agree that Carlin, like my experience
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as a caregiver has made it really changed my life.
And I realized what my gifts were, which I didn't know.
So I really believe, and this might sound bulu to
some people, but I believe that God used mat with
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my husband to bring me where I am. I learned
so much through that journey which has helped me help
other people. And my husband's life has touched so many
people and they learned from you know, the videos that
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I did that I was so deeply touched to. Now
that Math's life has helped other people.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
That is amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That is amazing that Math has taught you many lessons.
So as you're in our journey with what you have,
being a caregiver is an excellent way to help others
have to actualize. Being a caregiver is an excellent way
to help older people, especially we can help young children.
But when we're helping older people in the softness of
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life to heal and to become better, we have to
be patient with them. We have to be excellent listeners.
We have to be good stewards with what we are given.
Sometimes as caregivers, many many are not patient enough. We
have to be patient. We have to be polite. We
have to have compassion.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
We have to be.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Generous with our time. We have to be useful with
our tongue. We have to give praise often. We have
to speak soft and gentle with others. We have to
be patient with them and their sufferings.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh, absolutely, And yeah, it took me a long time
for this to think into my head and that journey.
But he was feed off of whatever energy I was
showing stuff. I was anxious, he became anxious. And it
took me a one time to realize that. And I
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got to thinking, you know, I really have to change
my energy. I can't have that anxious because it's to
make it that anxious. I had to be more.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Comforble that these are really just vibrational patterns in our lives. Yes,
just a vibrational pattern in our lives that comes sometimes,
it settles there. But when we recognize anxiousness as just
a vibrational pattern, we can release it immediately because.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
We say, that is not me. I'm not anxious.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I can see that as anxiousness, but that is not
me at the core of my being. I'm peace, I'm gentle,
I'm whole. I am not anxiousness. I recognize what anxiousness.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
It is just a feel.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's just a vibrational pattern that comes sometimes. And as
a gifted and holistic healer, I can recognize patterns.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
I see them.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I see patterns when they come, and I release them
immediately because I know that that is not me. It's
a pattern that comes and it releases itself immediately. So
in my journey, I've written six books. I've published six
books in my journey. The first book that I published
was Emerging to the It is the book that I
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called I'm not sure if I share.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That book with you.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
It is called walking away from Pain and Emerging to
the Light. It is me walking away from the painful
shadows that I have had to face as I became
more actualized in my my own endeavor. It is me
walking away from the difficult challenges that the patterns that
come to us with anxiety, with feelings of shame, with
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feelings of guilt. Those are patterns that come to us.
Sometimes when we don't recognize these patterns, we allow them
to enfold too long with our bodies. But we don't
have to stick with those patterns. We know that those
are patterns from the lineage that we come from. When
we come from patterns of lineage that had too many
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patterns that were negating our life force, we can go
back and say that is not me. I recognize my peace.
I recognize my place in this world as a place
that holds peace, as a place that holds forgiveness as
a place that is gracious. When I recognize patterns that
are not me, I do not encounter myself for a
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long time. I release them with others as I see them.
I'm able to see the aura. I'm able to see
the field. I'm able to clear the field. So that
is my gift, that is my gift as one who
is a holistic healer. I'm able to clear the pathway
for others. I'm able to hold the space and clear
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the pathway.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm able to.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Distinguish myself as someone who can recognize patterns. They come
in shapes, they come in colors, they come as vibrational fields.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
And then I clear the pathway.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I release it. I release it. I release it right now.
Any passage of time with Betsy that I speak about,
I release any pathway that is not clear, I release
it now gently, gently, gently, I release that.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
I release that.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I release that, And now I get back to grace,
and I get back to graciousness, and I allow dear
Betsy to ask another question.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Uh, yeah, I'm interested in you work with the new
men in our nations. What did you do, Carolin?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I served as a communications specialist.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's interesting. Traveled extensively.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, I traveled extensively globally. I traveled to about fifty
six countries. I worked in many places. I worked throughout Africa.
I worked in Africa, I worked in East Africa and
the Sudan. I worked in Southern Africa in Zambia. I
work in Western Africa in Sira Leone. But I traveled
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extensively around Africa while I was there. Some of it
was for work and some of it was just to
see the police. I also worked in Asia. I lived in.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
India, I lived in Nepal.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I lived in East Timore, and these are places that
I worked. I also worked in Bangladesh, and these are
places that I work. And I live with United Nations
and also for different things. But I also traveled a
lot in Asia as well.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
America.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
I worked in South America, I worked in Central America.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I lived on work different places in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That sounds like a very interesting job. I'm sure you
learned so much about all these different cultures.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And yeah, I had to. I had to win my work.
I had to learn about the culture. I had to
learn about the politics because my work was communications, but
it was also related to governance, good governance.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
That that is yes, good to know because I know
there was a lot of unrest uh in Africa at
different times with the different.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Iraq was a it was.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Iraq was a pretty much a war zone when I
was there, but the war zone it was easy. But
I did work for six months in Iraq as well,
so I understand the complex nature of life and I
understand how difficult it is to work in places where
there was war and then there was ease, and then
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to go there to help to support the people there,
to provide a voice for them, to speak for them,
to speak as a voice for the United Nations, but
then to speak for people and to work with government
agencies and those that were working for peace. So I
understand some of the things in the global in the
global feel what is happening. I understand the national context.
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I understand bilateral relations, and I understand many things that
has to do with international law and international relations. I
understand what it is to work in election feeld where
there's heightened tension. I understand how people survive, how people
live and survive in places like that.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Well deal with a very interesting, i would say, exciting life.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
A bit of I also have a bit of where
I worked as a communications specialist. I did some work
with writing for the newspaper back in my country, Guyana,
I did. I did serve as a radio announcer producer
where I learned the ethics of the radio. And I
worked a little bit as a radio announcer producer and
(26:31):
a little bit on television. Not much, but a little
bit to get me to know what it is to
function really on a national radio station and serve as
a radio announcer producer.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, you are multi talented and gifted, Caroline, that that
is one of all I've just Oh, I can't think
of person's last name. I had interview someone back and
I think it was January February who worked on internationally.
(27:06):
She worked internationally and she's a professor at Harvard and
she wrote a book about, you know, getting into into
helping people such as through United Nations and other organizations.
Except my mond just went blank of the name of
(27:29):
the name of the person. What happened Sometimes I remember
her first name, but nonetheless, but that's very important and
I think Caroline that to me, in my opinion, it's
so important to have that uh spirit of service for people.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Helping.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
You have to be in your service.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
You have to be humble in your service when you're
serving in the United Nations because it's it's a job
of prestige and you have a lot of good things
happening to you because you're able to travel and move freely.
You're able to go to countries and staying nice places,
but then you have to live with.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Those people who are suffering as well.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And in your job you get to have nice offices,
but then you see you go in the field and
you see the suffering of people. So there's a dichotomy there.
You're serving that you're serving with United Nations as an
ambassador for peace. As a United Nations staff, you're an
ambassador for peace. You're holding this space for peace and
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generosity and goodness because it's always providing support for the
people in the countries you're serving. So you have to
weigh in the balance to say how much can I give,
how much compassion can I give to these people that
I'm serving highest level and then at the lowest level. Again,
there are different stratas in society, but we release that
(29:06):
because you're able to speak with officials from the government,
you're able to speak with NGOs, you're able to speak
with the local staff, and then you're able to speak
with the people who are suffering on the ground, the
people that you're there to serve.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Do you find, Caroline, that in today's world, compassion is nothing,
It's not like used to be. Do you find people
who are less compassionate?
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Because the systems in our societies are not geared towards
having more compassion for people. It is geared towards making money.
It is geared towards just making money and being in
a space of comparative analysis where I am better than you,
so I should be striving just to be better than
you and to look down on you. But more compassion
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means we do not try to compare, but we say
that we're equal. Let us be equal, Let us show compassion.
If someone is struggling, let us show compassion. Why is
this person displaying such a behavior? How can I help
this person to become a better human being? How can
I How can I transfer what I'm feeling a feeling
(30:17):
of love, a feeling of unconditional love, and show compassion,
and that would be reflect it right back at you
as you show it.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, that is a definitely. I agree with that. I
think sometimes we have lost our humanity. I'm love and
care for each other and you know, I mean I
am a child of the you know, sixties and seventies
(30:47):
to grow up then, and you know, I still believe
today at my age that you know, I do believe
in and peace, love and brotherhood, and I do believe
that we all want the same things. We all want
to live in safety. We all want to be loved
and accepted and treated with respect and dignity. And it's like,
(31:11):
if we all want that, then why don't we all
do it?
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
The technology that we have is like a double edged sword.
Is providing a lot of things for us to communicate
in a more holistic way, in a soft and gentle way.
It is providing the platform for us to have instant communication.
But in that they're also parallels there where people are
just not focusing.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
On the right things that they want to do.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They're caught up too much with the technology and what
it is providing at a superficial level. That is just
one way of looking at it. In our school system
and our health systems, things that are in place there
that are not correct for our society to progress were
intricate truth that should be told to us. The honorable
(32:01):
thing to do is to show compassion, to have unconditional love,
To have a field of unconditional love always flowing to us,
to our children, to allow them to be good steward
in their life. So when they go to school, to
show compassion, to hold the feel of kindness always for
the teachers, to show kindness and compassion, To be of
(32:23):
a generous nature with our children. To protect our children.
What is taught in the schools, How much of it
is real truth? What can we do to eliminate things
that are not said in the truthful way?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
How can we.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yield these broken pieces of ourselves? How can we protect
the family? The family is integral to society. How can
we protect our families? How can we protect our families?
Families are not by the way. It is the family
that holds the systems in place. Nurturing families in a
(32:56):
protective way, have the husband and the wife and the children,
and as a support of the family system. Societies are
built on that same foundation of the family. That is
what we should speak about, not having too many fractured families,
but having families that are blossoming well. Families should live
in spaces that are healing. There should be more healing
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spaces around. There should be more nurturing spaces around. There
should be more natural spaces around for us to live in.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yes, and I feel too, Caroline. That and today's world.
You know, we're connection and we're more connected, easily connected
to each other, we're also very disconnected with each other.
And you know, people are go out, you see people
(33:50):
go out to eat, they're at with their children. They're
not even paying attention to that people they're with, They're
on their phone and they're just so disconnected.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
So that in the end, on the nature that the
phone is offering, the phone can be very an instrument
that is used for peace, for understanding, forgiving, for loving,
for sharing, But it is the likes that the people
are looking for, Likes they're looking for to present the
shadow side of who they are. They don't present the
(34:20):
real side of who they are with the phones. With
social media, a lot of the social media platforms are
there to provide a false sense of who we are,
and that is what is subtracting from our lives. Having
all the games that the children are playing, a lot
of the games are bamboozled with things that have caused fear.
(34:43):
A lot of the games that little children are playing
on their tablets on their phones are not good for them.
A lot of the adults are wasting a lot of
time on their phone and social media, on social media
platforms and not focusing on what the family needs. So
these are the things that cause fractured family patterns, and
(35:03):
that is what needs feeling. We need to heal the
fractured family patterns. We need to have children who feel safe.
We have We need to have children who need to
feel safe at home, feel safe in the home, feel safe.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
In the schools.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Our healthcare system need to be geared to offer solutions, solutions, solutions.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh absolutely, that is definitely for sure. And then you
have people you know on social media. I mean social
media could be great, folks, and it also can not
be great. I call these people in keyboard bullies because
they could be very mean on their keyboard because they're
(35:49):
not facing the person in person. And some people just
can be so mean using their words, as we talked
about before. And do you definitely see that on social media?
Cal I, let me ask you about your other book,
because I have a picture of that book. It's time
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to realize light as the cellular structure of your body.
What is that book about and how did you come
out with that tile.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
That book is about understanding the light that we see
flowing to us, the light from the sun as it
flows to us, it is bringing photon light to us.
It is pure intelligence. But then there's also the negation there.
So the light that is flowing, it is purified, and
that is divine. The light that is purified, it is flowing.
(36:42):
Many streams of intelligence is flowing to us. But we
want to flow with the divine as much as possible.
When we're flowing with the divine, it is coming to
us in many different angles and shapes and patterns. So
the Divine is coming in lineage, but it is also
coming in a purified way in the lineage that we
whold from ancient times to now. The Divine is purifying.
(37:05):
It's flowing with its ebb and flow. It's coming, always
always coming to us. It's flowing, it's flowing. It's flowing
bringing goodness, bringing hope, bringing living waters of kindness, refreshing
our bodies, refreshing our souls, refreshing our minds. Always flowing
with the divine is the best thing to do. To
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be always flowing with the divine. Divine simply means pure intelligence.
Divine means pure intelligence. Pure intelligence is what we're aspiring
to be. To flowing with the divine nature of who
we are. We find that in the abundance and the richness.
As we look outside and we see the bountiful trees.
As the wind is blowing, it's reminding us of our breadth.
(37:50):
It is reminding us that each breath we take, we
should be grateful for it. We should be gracious. We
should be gracious for the wind, for the things that
we see, things that we don't see. We should be
gracious for the ocean, for the waters, for the rivers.
This is how nature is flowing. This is the bountiful
nature of the divine. As we see the trees, the
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trees are planted there their networks of trees. That is
holding space for us. The trees should be more, there
should be plenty full because the oxygen from the trees,
it gives us purified air.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
So as we.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Flow, and we flow with the light that is flowing
in our bodies. This is what we call the light
the light is healing, it is purifying, it is protecting.
But our words help us to flow with more ease
and grace. As we flow with the light of the divine,
we always flow with the intelligence that is pure. And
that is what the book is all about. Realizing that
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light is the cellular structure of the body is part
of it, but there is much more to it. And
when you read the book, you would understand that it
is flowing. It is flowing in time, in space. Would
ease and grace it ease and grace.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
It is flowing.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
That sounds beautiful. Speaking of breeze today, it's a may
have a nice breeze here in New Jersey, And of
course I've seen, you know, trees sway in the breeze.
But the older I get, Caroline, I really am more
entuned and more grateful for the things around me that
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I took for granted. You know, I really enjoy now
filling a breeze on the scene, the trees and the leaves,
you know, blowing in the wind, to see the flowers,
they hear the birds singing. I have such a new
appreciation for life at the age of sixty seven than
(39:53):
I ever had before because I realized wonderful.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
You know, when we look at the beautiful birds and
we listen to the bird songs, the bird songs are
bringing us home. The birds should be given the space
to live with ease. A lot of us we are
taking up some of the space that the bird live in.
But the birds like to be in the trees. The
bird like to flow. They bring beautiful songs for us
(40:21):
in the mornings and during the daytime, and during the summertime.
They're there cheering us on bringing beautiful songs. If we
pay attention to the birds, we can learn a lot.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
We really can learn a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah, I'd love to hear them chirping to each other,
you know, kind of communicating to each other. And you know,
I never really fully appreciated that before until recently. And
you know, folks, life is short and life is precious,
(40:58):
and I wish you didn't take me until I was
in my sixties to realize that. But it's never too late.
And just you know, if I could just encourage people
to take the time to listen to the birds. Thing
smell a rose, you know they say, take time to
sell the flowers something like that. It's so important and
(41:24):
and you know, put your phones away and pay attention
and live in a moment with whoever you are with
the best gifts we could.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Get sometimes trying to phone off, starting the phone off,
and pay attention, to persevere with, have compassion, have love,
use the time. Why we have our meals without the phone,
have our meals without the television projecting negativity. The negativity
(41:55):
that is coming through on the television with the news
programs is very very.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Bad for us.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Constantly listening to the news is very very negative to
our life force. So we have to be careful with
the choices that we make with the hours that we
have in the day. How do we choose to spend
our time? What do we choose to listen to? Because
words have vibration, they're beautiful things that we can listen
to to nurture our souls, to nurture our bodies, to
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have our minds project beautiful positivity. Well, we have the choice.
We have the choice on what we do, what do
we choose to look at? What do you choose?
Speaker 1 (42:36):
And the different.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
That is all the difference in the world.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
My dear Betsy, Oh, I agree, Caroline, because you know,
if you fill your mind with negative that's what you're
going to spew out. It took me a one time
to learn that too. But you know, the best guess
we could give someone other than love, it's time.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
That is true, my dear Messy. That is true. When
we give time, we give it in a gracious way.
We give it without begrudging them that I'm giving you
an hour or two hours of my time. We listen keenly,
We listen with understanding. When we give time, we support
as much as we can. If we're offering food, we
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give our best of it. If we are offering time,
if we are offering coffee or just some cookies, we
give the best of it. Even if it's just listening
to them speak, we give the best of it, and
we often support as best as we can. We allow
our minds to be attuned to what the divine is offering,
and that is how we get to pure intelligence. That
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is how we allow ourselves to flow with ease and
with grace. We always want to flow at ease and grace.
We always want to be grace. We always want to
have the loving divine presence around us that causes us
to flow and cause our bodies to heal naturally. We
don't feel fatigued, we don't feel anxious, we feel ease
(44:13):
and grace with others.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I like that. I like that a lot, Carolin. Where
can people get in touch with you and for your services?
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (44:28):
A simple phone call they can get. My website is
still being attuned there. It's there, but I have to
get some attunement to it. So right now you can
reach me on my number three or two two five
zero zero five ninety six. I have LinkedIn presence. I
have a Facebook presence. So these are spaces that I
(44:50):
hold in the name Caroline Kennedy. In other spaces that
I hold, I usually have one on one and sometimes
group healing them I do, but I would have sessions
from time to time, and I would have sometimes events
where I project myself on social media and do healing.
(45:11):
My books are available on Amazon in the name of
Caroline and Kennedy, and the six books that I wrote
are there, and they're also on Barns and Nobles, Cobo, Rakotin.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
And they're on Google Books. Some of my books.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Are offered free of charge. You just have to download
it if you have Kindled. But I would be doing
some complimentaries where I'll be giving away like five hundred
copies of some of the books where you can just
download it and you'll be able to read them. That
would be coming up soon for people who are interested
in reading. The books are all electronic. You can have
(45:50):
hard copies and soft copies, but I would be offering
complimentary where I can give away like five hundred electronic
copies where you can download the books for free and
read them. My books are very, very very very profound
in the way they're written. They're flowing with ease and
grace in the divine. That means they're flowing with aptitude
(46:10):
of what is needed now. The book that I wrote,
The Essence of Time in Resonance with Mother Earth, speaks
about the ocean, how our oceans need to be protected,
how our Earth needs to be protected. Lots of things
that are happening on the Earth today. We need to
be more careful with the way we use our resources,
(46:33):
with the way we spend our time and the things
that we consume, whether it's what we listen to or
what we eat. This is what is going to save
and protect us. This is what is going to heal
and nurture our bodies.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yes, I absolutely agree. We have to take care of
our environment for sure. Well, Caroline and I really enjoyed
talking to you today and thank you for coming on
and spending time with me and sharing about your life
(47:11):
and your work. It was such a pleasure, so thank you.
I want to encourage the audience get in touch with
Caroline Kennedy. All the information about Caroline Kennedy will be
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our writes and Gennie produces the show, and Lilian Caldwell
(47:35):
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Subscribing if you don't already subscribe to Chatting with Betsy,
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(47:56):
about Chatting with Betsy because I want to help as
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great resources. I have experts on the field in their
fields that are on my show, and I'm just grateful
to be able to help others know that you're not alone.
(48:16):
There are people going through the same situation. And feel
the same way. They just don't talk about it. But
we all have so much in common, and folks, you
can follow me on Facebook Betsy Worzel w u r
ze l. And as I always say at the end
(48:39):
of my show, in the world where you could be anything, safe,
kind and shine your life right because we need it
now more than ever before. And that's the show for say, folks,
thank you for listening. This is Betsy Worthal. You're a
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
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