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August 3, 2025 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
You're watching Chewing the Can with Mike, Benny and Rowe,
and you have a Scott a water amounts a full
of water, then it makes sense that kun quats. Oh hello,
you're watching Chewing the Cud. You're lighthearted weekly look at
the world for a pair of rainbow into glasses. I'm
Mike ben in Row and with me today as a
person who won't be persuaded or even cajoled. It's a Scott.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's been a while since anyone tried to cajole me
to apparently so mean. Could you if you do it
by yourself? Could you just be jowled? Is it co jold?
Do you need two people to be cajoled?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I think you needed two people to cajole you.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, I mean that'd be nice. That's oh, that's that's birthday.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
So what have you got for us this week?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
I am bringing you a story worry about a medical
treatment that's taking the Internet by storm. And then we're
going to play a game.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
And then River will be educating and informing us through
lighthearted discourse in spotlight. But ontreen Now you can see
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Speaker 2 (01:21):
The cud You can see the names of people who
have reached out and touched our souls going along the
bottom of your screen. But now it's time for Mike
with the showbiz.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
How do you feel about Doctor Who?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Ooh, I mean that's a question that I that I
could take a very long time to answer such a
short version. All right, yes, all right, okay, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
The wrong answer.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Oh right, okay again, I like it?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well done?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
So this is a story about Ali Alexander who's taking
over from the shouting. Get Why the am I reading
this story with a spoiler on it?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
And is all the Alexander actually taking over? Is that
a thing?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Let me read this? Oh no, okay? Oh, so all
Alexander is taking over from the shooting gatwall right, but
not in Doctor Who? Right, it's he's going to be
Algeron in the reworking of Wild The importance of being
ernest which the shooting? Get what is currently in there?
They are?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
There? They are.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I would like to be in the middle of those two.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
I mean that does yeah, one at a time and
then both.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
At once, both at once, and then both at once, and.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
They can swap ends at halftime like football.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
No they can't. So yeah, Ali Alexander has said that
he's very excited to be filling in the shooting gets shoes,
just his shoes, and he said that as an actor,
especially in The Doctor, has been inspired.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Okay, so yeah, I mean of course he's going to
say that he's doing a job like you're not going
to go, God this, I'm glad they're paying me. I
wouldn't do it for free, Like that would be that
would be the best SoundBite to hear of someone. Oh
I'm very excited to be taking over. Oh it's such
an inspirt. No, I'm doing it because it's money. This
is why my acting career didn't take up all of this.

(03:20):
But that's another story.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, ability, but yeah, so the spark added feel to
the fire of rumors that might be the next doctor what.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Because he's just slowly he follows shooting gat into every
job that he.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Does, every toilet Cuba, Oh.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, every time. Every time, it's just like he's he's
warming it up, He's he's getting it ready for him. Yeah,
he's losing it for him and then Ali takes over.
That's that's I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
But back to your birthday, don't So, how do you
feel about that news?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
I've I've been clips of Nashudi get were doing Oscar
Wilde as it were, as it were, and it looks
really fun and really I wish I could go see it.
I wish I could afford to go see it, but
I also wish I could actually go and watch him
do it. So I think it'd be fantastic. And I
mean I didn't watch It's a Sin because it's eighties,
it's set in the eighties, and it's about gay people.

(04:21):
We all know how that's going to end. And I
was very well, yeah, I mean I didn't care, so
I didn't watch it. I don't know how good of
an actor Olie Alexander is.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
And you see I watched it sinn thinking, oh no,
it's only it sings well, but is it going to
be all acts? Very well?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Okay? I mean sure, Uh. He just there's something about
his face that just I want to slap. He's just
a bit smug. I think he's got that skinny twin
energy and he's always had that skinny twin energy, and
it's worked for him, and I feel like.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's not bitterness that's happening at all here.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Sure, I've not finished my rant, but yeah, I mean,
all right, fine, yeah, I mean, a homosexual playing the
lead in Oscar Wild play groundbreaking. I'm really interested to
see what Olie Alexander will bring to the role. Is
that what you want me to.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Say for your fish? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I got to
watch she's doing it because they put on cinema. So
they put it on cinema showings up down the country.
So I hope they'll do that again, or at.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Least stream it, top it on Netflix. I'll watch it then.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I think it was trying to get people into the
cinemas and out of the streaming environment.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
But not into theaters.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Well no, because they were doing it as a live
cast from the theater.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh oh, they did that with Doctor Who or something
once one of.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
The anniversary episodes they live casting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, I mean I'd still stayed home and watched it
for free on my TV where all my stuff is
in my house.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
But you can do it in your pants. That's please
put your trolls on.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And I mean seeing shooty gaps were
when he first became the doctor and was running around
in his pants. That was Watch the Delights a couple.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Of times, yeah, blazoned in my brain. But moving on
Pride season.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Oh yeah, yes, bomb literally was going, oh pants, I forgot,
but also just bomb hooray, bob yes, bumb.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Bombs and penises and willis and vaginas and boobs and
all the other.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You've got you want to say, a doctor, if you've.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Got a no, it's it's naturally clear. All but yeah,
World Pride twenty twenty five. Right, Okay, this isn't the thing.
It's happening in Madrid.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
It's not. It's not that saying it's happening in Spain.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's a thing that's happened in Spain. But the thing
isn't about World Pride, right, It's about the lineup and
what that has meant. Okay, So the lineup has got
rita order Kylie Moneygue. You don't know who she is
with Charlie Nogue all right, okay, spelt Moneygue, Charlie x
c X and Troy Sevan.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Okay, of course it is all the homosexuals and the
ones that all the gays like exactly right.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
But Rita Aura has hinted very heavily that they will
be working with Troy Savanna on.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
The track right there.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
She is not Kia, that's her sister.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Very yeah, she's heiress to the the Aura Drinks, so
she's working with with Choiceavan.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Said that troyan has always been a big cheerleader, so
when's doing stuff on stage, Troy was going, yes, queer,
you can do it.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Like all of the other gays in the world who'd
never say things like that. He's very innovative in the
area of shouting yas queen whatever.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
But no, no, because some artists can be very stand
offish and go, yeah, you do your thing, I'll do
my thing and that's it. But is very celebrating and
joining in the getting everyone riled up, which.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well that's nice. I mean I would expect that from everyone,
But then I'm just generally a nice person.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Shut you know when you follow that was shut the
it kind of proves my point without me having to
say anything. So yeah, moving on very quickly. Are you
aware of who Janade Ahmed is?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Do you watch reality TV? Should you start watching reality Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Oh no, I cherished my ignorance on the subject.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Next question, that's all good to talk about it. So
out twink, there we go? Right, all right, it's like say,
walk to a dog, twink. Can I go? Now, let's go,
let's go, let's go anyway, TOWI star jad Ahmed.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I'm flaccid again. Carry on?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Who's been speaking out after receiving a massive wave of
abuse for being an out gay Muslim?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Right, all right, there is ah He's kind of cute.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
He is kind of cute. He's very sweet too. Yeah, yeah,
he's basically he's been.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Even if he wasn't cute, he shouldn't get hate for
being an out gay Muslim.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
And because he is cute, you know. Interest in the
story again a little bit. But he's been saying that
even if he's get controlled online, he's refusing to be silenced. Right.
He wants to say that both parts of his identity
are valid, right, right, so he can be gaining, he
can be a Muslim. He doesn't see them as mutually exclusive, right,
And he won't apologize for exactly who he is.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Okay, will he apologize for being on tawi?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No? Well then, because that's how he's become money. Yeah,
and carry on this and able to have platform.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Shit.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So he's saying that being gay Muslim is not contradiction,
it's my truth.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Okay, good for him.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I think it's good for him because I think
within the lgbt Q I A plus spectrum, there is
a lot more to say about people of my other minorities,
and we need to be a little bit more accepting,
a lot more accepting of people because sadly some of
the abuse has been getting has been from within our
own community.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well yeah, I mean people are awful just generally, that's it. Yeah, yeah, no,
but yeah, definitely. I mean it's good that he's being
visible and he's being out there and he's unapologetic and
all of that kind of thing. And I'm pleased on
all of those accounts. But then at the same time

(10:31):
and this, yeah, he's on TWI, So it's like and also,
he knew what he was getting into. It's not like
he's been forced into the spotlight against his will or anything.
He knew this was going to happen when he did
this kind of thing, and I'm glad that he's like
doing the right thing with it. He's like, yeah, no,
I'm not gonna apologize I'm doing this, and he goes
into it fully knowing the thing. So good for him.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Exactly and him being a role model, especially for the
LGBTQI plus and Muslim community.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, and it's nice that the that the queer Muslims
can go look there's one and go yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, we should all be able to look on TV
and or look there's one as well.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I've got two.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
You are one. But that's all in the shows this week,
Thanks Mike.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I don't know what to say because I was just
jiggling my boobs around at the end of a story
about queer Muslims and that feels wrong. I just want
to acknowledge that I regret that, but only a little bit. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, you jiggle you boobs and you forget, We're gonna
say you're welcome River, stay right there is come up.
After this short break, we go all browser based as
it's River in the buzz Welcome back and you're watching
Chewing the Cud. This is the part of the show

(11:47):
where we dust off the keyboard and get ready to
be abased as it's River and the buzz.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Buzz buzz Mine. Indeed, right up first I've been scouring
the Internet, by which I mean scrolling through rubbish on
my phone. But I can call it work, so it's fine. Yeah, dear. Anyway,
did you know that some of those scientists that that

(12:20):
are on TikTok claim that you can ease migraines using McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Inserted in your rectum as a suppository.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You'd struggle with I was just that I would I
would try to name a part of a McDonald's meal,
and the only one that came to mind was chicken McNuggets,
and I went to a very strange visual place. You
wouldn't want the spicy sauce that oh burns like a demon. Anyway. Yeah,
apparently sufferers swear as you would if you had a migraine,

(12:59):
But these are parent swear by a salty snack during
a brain explosion. Okay, which makes sense, But I mean,
it doesn't have to make Donald's shureley. You could just
you know, anything with salty. You could just let it
with the I'm sorry, I've gone to another strange place.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
With me because that is salty.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Apparently, migraines are linked to dehydration, blood sugars drops, and
you get a kind of sensory overload, which I get anyway,
to be honest, is if I'm just around people for
a long time or yeah, just generally anyway, some people
say it's more of a comfort food thing than anything
specific to the to the saltiness. But either way, it

(13:39):
seems like an excuse to eat whatever you want to eat.
Like most people say, like when I was at university,
like McDonald's cures are hangover, I'm like, no.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
It doesn't, it does. It's fat and sultan just I
mean because again, alcohol dehydrates you so salty goodness, and
you drink lots of fluids.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, I drink lots of fluids. But I never found
McDonald's help tonny. But then, all right, anyway, should we
have someone see if it works? Yes? All right?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Then do you have some? Uh?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh I thought you were getting some? Did you not
bear with?

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I have I have a meal of pleasure?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Excuse you?

Speaker 1 (14:21):
That's a happy meal? Smiles. Oh, it's a pokemon.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Other rubbish food is available.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
But this is for science.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
So what scientific treats do you have in your little oh, dear,
in your little box, I've got some pokemon? Oh yeah,
used to good? Yeah, you used to get toys, little
plastic things. Now you get a QR code to scan
on your phone.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
No, this is apparently a toy. What is it that stickers?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
All right? I like stickers though, I'm alright with stickers.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
But is that it actual Pokemon card? Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I thought that was the lemony fresh white. Oh no,
you only get those in KFC, don't you. Anyway?

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Anyway, such fun cheeseburgers are sort out migraine.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yes, do you have a migraine?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
I probably will do in a bit.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Well, good luck everybody? And oh that good is it? Oh?
Did you not get the gick or the girls? Who
is there anyone out there that actually likes the girk
that actively looks forward to the gurkin in a burger?

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Because we're getting a may from the gallery?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yes, well, this is why you're not allowed out. This
is why you get to This is why you get
to stay in the gallery. God hm, but it's hard.
What is that? Oh it's supposed to be salad. I
think it's mc green hanging on to the end of that.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I don't have sid on mine.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
I don't have sad on mine. Apart from just there
there's a weird little bit of something green sprouting out
the side of my burger.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh dear, I don't know what. I've not got migraine?
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
So the.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
What's the next story? Bare with?

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Nope, that's empty, all right, I'm back comes with drink excellent,
except I can't get the lid off and there's no straws.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Straws here. But as the straws.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is this important in curing the migraine, You think that
the sugary drink.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I would have thought so because it else the rehydrate.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
It just makes me giddy, and then half an hour
later I get a crack in head. They can have
to lay down again, So I don't think that helps anyway. Crashing, Oh,
it's a bit. It was a bit between my teeth
crashing on. So from stories of junk food and I'm

(17:18):
happy good crashing on from stories about junk food and
fatty snacks, were onto a zen pic, which you'd have
to be after this particular meal, I think, But never mind,
So a zep Are you aware of a zen pic
is a thing? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
You know, I'm aware of people miss of abusing a
side effect of a drug that's just had to deal
with diabetes.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
That's it. Yeah, it's not. But then you could say
the same thing about viagra, which was designed for something
to do with heart attacks, but because it's a vaso.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Dilator and also Alzheimer's.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
But because it's a vaso dilator, it dilates your vasos
and then everyone's feeling perky and firm in a particular area. Anyway,
that's that's this, isn't that? A zepic is. Yeah, injection
makes you thinner by making you stop wanting to eat,
which I think McDonald's have managed to actually, Yeah, like, uh,
you don't want to eat that, I am no longer hungry,

(18:18):
Like I've had one bite of that and I'm good. Thanks. Anyway,
results may vary, it's the same with a zempic. Anyway,
a zempick has. Shockingly, there's a side effect which isn't
a real side effect in a medical sense, but is
a side effect in a I'm abusing this so I
can get thin kind of way. Okay, it's called a zempic.

(18:41):
But does it make you gappy? Pudd in?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Does it make you gappy?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Uh No, it's because you get thinner too quickly, and
so your your body can't redo all the skin properly,
you know, like when when really big people have a
such Yeah, and then they just have some like wings
or extra flaps that the body takes a while to
kind of adjust to because it's just had a lot of.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's a very strong word for what I did with
that gentleman. But someone while I was away on holiday
and they came back to mine and as they were
getting undressed, went just to forewarn you, I had a
gastric bypass. I went okay, And then during the act
they were above me and the skin was touching me

(19:28):
and was a gap.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Oh they weren't. They weren't even didn't even have the
courtesy to lift it up for you, he says, eating
match ships.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
All right, Anyway, my skin is formed around stretched around
the fat. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
So anyway, it turns out that this is a thing
that happens if you use a drug for something that's
not intended to happen for your bum gets all saggy
and weird because all the fat that was in your
buttox is no longer there, but the skin and or
the flesh is still hanging off them nice. So, yeah,
what you could do if you don't want a zempick
bum is. You could tuck it into your socks, or

(20:09):
you could not inject yourself with random drugs to get thin,
but instead change to what you eat and go to
the gym a bit. Maybe just a thought, I'll just
be fat or just fat and happy, be happy to
be fat. Yeah, I mean, well, what was your thought then?
I was I was just gonna say, yeah, just surely
it's better to just learn to be happy with what

(20:31):
you are. But then I thought about the fact that
I go to the gym for five times a week, so.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I have no problem with people going to the gym. Well,
as long as you're doing it for the right reasons.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
I'm doing it someone to have sex with attractive people.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
So if that's your right reason, that's your right reason.
I said, this is my body. I'm very confident with
my body. No wants to see it.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
I mean, there's a girl out there who made millions
farting on cakes. I'm sure that there are people who
are out there who look at you and go, yes,
please some.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Of that yeah, and the dog goes rough.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
We all just have to make do with what we've got.
We have to play the hand you've got.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Everyone's a fetish.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Anyway, from junk food to skinny injections to chasing cheese
down a hill. Okay, hmm, it is at that time
of the year. It is the annual cheese rolling event
at Cooper's Hill in Gloucestershire.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I thought about, say Cooper Beaty.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
No, that's in Austria. Yes, now, this is in Gloucestershire.
There is a thing. There is a thing. I was
going to call it a sport. It's not a sport.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
It is a sports sweat involved.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Participants held themselves downhill chasing a wheel of cheese. This
is this this there they go. Yeah, oh, that's an
interesting spinal thing to explain to the nice people in
the ambulance, isn't it. Your body's not meant to bend
that way? I don't think. Yeah, lots of people get

(22:26):
I mean, I've had several cheese related accidents, but they've
never looked anything like that.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, that what you're doing, double Gloster.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
All I'm going to say is fondu is not the
way forward. That's all.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
What they mean by peanis cheese.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Oh no, I went through a tuba savalon in a weekend.
I'll tell you that Yeah, that's anyway. Someone died from
this one year at least once, and yet people still
do it.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Were their laptose intolerant.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
I see what you did there. That was quite good.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, it was all of for it.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
And that's the end of the buzz for this week,
because why not don't go anywhere as coming up, we
have a game for you to play along with in
our game of the.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Week, Welcome back to a Burpie chewing the cud with
Mike Beying Roe and equally Burpie rivers. Now this is
the part of the show where we're going to play
a game and this is for the person who didn't
realize that they signed a waiver, not a guest book.

(23:31):
It's River, So off you pop.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
You'll be hearing from my lawyer.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
You've signed the wave. It's too late of the week.
So we're going to play a game of queer or Near.
So I'm going to have a factoid that River has
to say whether it's queer or true or near not
quite true? Are you ready River queer? Oh? As in

(23:56):
you're ready? Yes? Okay, you're just being abusive.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, okay, I was getting into the mood of it.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Your first question is is there an island in Greece
known as gay Island.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yes, there's Lesbos, no zach Andthos Miconos.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yes yeah, Miconos is known as gay Island.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Okay, So queer so queer, yes, yes, yes, sorry, yes
I said yes, I'm so say queer. Sorry, I think
I've got the rules of this game.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Let's go okay, gladly so. Sweden was the first country
to allow people to change their legal gender.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Oh wait, I saw that movie. It was called The
Danish Girl. So I'm going to say, uh, near not Sweden.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Okay, queer nineteen seventy two bomb Yeah, well Danish Girl
famously played by transactor Ready Redmain.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Ready Redmain, Ready Red Mae. He didn't get a glimpse
of his willy though, so it did. But that's your
idea of a good time.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean he's attractive, lovely bone.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, that's all I have to say.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Okay, Okay, I wish it were okay. In Nepal, there
is a legally recognized third gender.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Oh uh, queer. I'm going to go queer on this one. Yes,
I think so it is.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Indeed, queer legally recognized their gender.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Fantastic, what what's what can you tell me more?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
It's a country part of India.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Ah cool? Thanks?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Okay, Next question, who has a third gender that they
legally recognize? Right? Next one? Little nas X, little nas X, little.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Nas X, little little Naz kiss well, little lads with
the kiss at the x O X so that that's
Charlie x o x so, isn't it? Or was that
gosp girl.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Charlie x e X Little Naz right, came out on
the last day.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Not little nas, not little Naz, littl Naz, little naz X,
little naz X, little Nax.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
That's what I said. You're just you're hearing it different
because of my accent. Came out on the last day
of Wide month. What he came out on the last
day of Pride Month?

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Uh? What this year? No, can't have been It's been
a while, uh Nia, I don't think that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Oh, it's true. He came out on the thirtieth of
June twenty nineteen, oh last year before the pandemic.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean he had a whole rainbow colored bit in
his album title. Is that him coming out?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Because it came out after that after twenty ninety Oh
did it? Well? The way he gave birth to the album.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Oh dear, I don't know it was. It was. It
was before the pandemic, So as far as I'm concerned,
it's it's ancient history. I can't remember anything from back then.
That said, I can't really remember what I did last week.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
So all this morning, okay, next one, the village people
were all straight.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Uh I mean that that that sounds like it's probably true.
But I bet one of them turned out to be
a secret homecesul.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
That's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So I'm saying near not queer.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Okay, correct? Several were gay, including the originally singer shocking.
I know right.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
To think that that song was made by wafters I
know shouldn't be allowed.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Where they could do whatever they feel down at the ymcam.
Actually did I Will Survive Good for You by Gloria Again,
it is considered a queer anthem.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Queer?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Correct? Indeed, did you know that I'm near no queer?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Now you have if I knew, and I'm like, no,
probably not.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Did I know there was an interesting little factory that
you shall never learn the answer to.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I'm David, tell me.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
David Bowie once said he was a closet heterosexual. Is
that queer or not queer? David Bowie okay, once said
he was a closet heterosexual.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
No, no, near, I don't think that's a real one.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
He did after previously identifying as gay and buy he
said he was a closet heterosexual.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
All right. It was the seventies.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
There were a hell of a drug apparently, so this
one might get you a bit racheful. Hopefully it does.
Heteronormativity was coined by legend.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
RuPaul near and not even near, far far away.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, you'd be glad to know that is not quite true.
It appears early in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Excellent. It's like when people say, oh, sis is a
new thing, like, No, sis has been around to mean
not trams since like the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I think coming on that so cis gendered was used
in the nineteen twenties, that's right, But sis has been
around since what were they called? Oh yes, people were
speaking Latin.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yes, because it's a it's a prefix. Sis is a
prefix to mean yeah, okay, yeah, in the same way
that homo just means same and hetero means different.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Anyway, Yes. Oscar Wilde Yes wrote a letter from prison
titled deep Profundis.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's true, Yeah, queer, I knew that one.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
It is. Yes, I was saying it's great because he
was sentenced to Wasson for sodomy. Yes, so you were
sent to prison for being taken up anyway, it just
doesn't sound like a punishment to me. There's a species

(30:06):
of clownfish that can change sex.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yes, queer, it's the one that Nemo's dad, well, Nemo
and his dad, I imagine, was because there was a
thing about how if this was real life and Nemo's
mum got eaten, Nemo's dad would become his mum and
then they'd have kids together. Because fish aren't people, and
that's how they roll.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Indeed, they're sequential hermaphrodites cool plenty, good for them. That's
a scientific word. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Sequential. Nice, Well, you want it to be sequential, wouldn't
it You wouldn't want it all at once? That I'd
get very confusing.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Would you be able to get yourself pregnant?

Speaker 2 (30:48):
They could try?

Speaker 1 (30:49):
I do next thing?

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Um.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
In ancient Rome, ancient role lesbianism was it legal, but
male homosexually wasn't.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Let's say near Because I feel like, I feel like
the Romans and the Greeks were quite famous for all
the bumming, and they not quite consensual sex with younger men.
So I'm going to say that that one is near
not quite true.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, Rome had a complicated class based attitude. Well, it
depends how ritual. I mean. I'm not going to say
that still happens today, not at all. I'm not going
to say anything about certain files and a certain president.
Moving on, ball culture.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
If you've got if you've got culture on your balls,
you need to get that scene too. Learned that one
that hard way?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Did you learn?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
No?

Speaker 1 (31:56):
No, no no? Ball culture began in nineteen eighties Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Uh near. I think it was earlier than that, and
I think it was in New York, but I don't
know for sure.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Nineteen twenties Harlem.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
In fact, there we go. That's New york Ish, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
It is New York Yeah, because I think nineteen twenties
they didn't have Vogue then what the magazine? No, so
they wouldn't have been able to Vogue didn't.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Didn't did the did the magazine name come first?

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I think yes, because the reason why voguing is called
voguing is because they the original pose is to emulate
what they were doing in vogue. So he had those
pictures or that that very eighties stylized. Ireland's first openly
gay prime minister was Leo Va Kada queer.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yes, correct, actually a thing, yeah, actually a thing which
is quite nice. Yeah, it was he. It was he
the T shirt or whatever they call it or because
I think it's like the their their leaders in Irish,
the word is t shock, I believe, yes, yes, something
like that.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Okay, that's enough for now. Coming up after this shortbreak,
we prepare for our oural stimulation. That means Ears and
River in Spotlight welcome back, and you're still watching Micro

(33:31):
and River in chewing they could. Now we're going to
experience what River is famous for and not on specialist websites. Well,
it's Spotlight, so it's you're famous for podcasting amongst many
things that's on speciality websit. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Well, I mean you do need quite a special website
for for YouTube for podcasting stuff. It's not YouTube, no, no,
it is on YouTube, but there's quite a lot of bleeping,
quite a lot.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I quite like after a while, what kind of things
do you talk about on your podcast.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Oh, all sorts of queer stuff. Everything queer. I actually started.
One of the reasons I started it back in the
day was because there were lots of gay YouTube channels
and gay content, but it was all kind of like
nice and fluffy and hate kids. It's great to be gay,
rather than huh kindibis, yeah it is, it is great
being gay, deaf sias. But there was a lot of

(34:25):
all the websites were like that's that was yeah, gayness,
and there wasn't much about like the less family friendly
side of things.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
Not to say that it's the you know, just sanitized.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, very very It's queer stuff for queer people, not
worried about what the advertisers want us to talk about
so that they can package it nicely to straight people
and sell it for money, which is why I'm poor.
If I were any good at business, i'd be doing
the sanitized, happily clean and all of that. But it's not.
I do. I talk about real stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
So what kind of topics do you cover?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Well, I'm trying to think now of ones that I
can talk about in a in a nothing nothing particularly disgusting.
But we've talked about there's been an episode about how
bums are great, but they're not just for sex. Sometimes
they're also and how it's best it's best not to

(35:23):
get the two mixed up and how to stop that
from happening and things like that.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Okay, so thinks that douche.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, that's it. I wasn't sure if I was allowed
to say.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That that most French for shower it is.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, so having a French shower when you're expecting a
gentleman caller and that kind of thing. Yeah, and all that,
and talking about why my housemate owns a pair of
noise canceling headphones things like that, because that's always fun
to be the cause of the need for noise canceling

(35:54):
headphones rather than having to be the one wearing them,
And things like topping and bottoming and what that, and
like how you're not at top or bottom, you're someone
who enjoys two bottom because it's not who you are.
It's one of the things what you enjoy and that
can change over time. You know, everything's queer and fluid.
There's a load of stuff about being trans and non

(36:15):
binary because that was kind of part of my journey
and so you know, there's some stuff about that. I
make it funny and silly. I a few years ago
I had a big birthday. I'm an undisclosed number of
years old. Don't worry about it. Part of my part
of my trauma response to being in my thirties was

(36:39):
to owl's this podcast be quiet? How dare you using
your maths at me?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
One hundred and fifty episodes?

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Ish, it's about shagging twinks, all right, so stuff like
that and body hair and all sorts of things. There's
all sorts of episodes about all sorts of stuff, all
of it from a queer perspective in a way that
should be hopefully silly and fun and engaging, and talks
about stuff in a way that isn't too sanitized and boring.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
So very important needed, but still lighthearted.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, bit of silly.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, okay, cool. So how do you approach a subject
like douching from a silly angle? Do you put?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You test the water first? You make sure it's a
comfortable temperature, because that's that can be bracing. If it's
too cold, you really, yeah, it wakes you up. It
don't need to be too hot either, No, No, you'd
struggle getting the Savlon right up there, wouldn't you dear again? So, yes,

(37:49):
I personally, when it comes to stuff like douching, I
think about, you know, my experience of it, what I've
what I what I know of it. Sometimes I do
a bit of research, by which I mean I have
a flick through Instagram and TikTok, and then I try
and think of some jokes and make it funny and silly.
We'll still find out what my point was, And I'm like,

(38:11):
what am I trying to say? And then I chuck
some knob jokes in. It's not difficult. If it were,
it wouldn't be me doing it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Okay, so you're talked about douching.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yes, you seem stuck on that one.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Do you want to shouting?

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Shouting more just vocally enjoying your gentleman caller as it were,
annoying the neighbors.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Annoying the neighbors.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
I mean, if it's any good, you get to a yodel.
Sometimes it's more of just a grunt and a squirt,
but that's you know, well we all get through it,
don't we do it? Okay?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Cool? So what should be probably your biggest tip? Sorry?
People enjoying sex. What's your biggest tip?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
Oh, my biggest tip for enjoying sex use your words, like,
don't be afraid to ask for what you want. No
one's a mind reader. It took me a while to
kind of like a very boring sex where I'm lid there,
just kind of thinking, I hope you've just done soon,
and before I realized that that's not really what you
should be doing. What you should be doing is kind
of going, what are you doing? Please? Stop? You're doing
it wrong. Stop moving your arms about so much? Why

(39:18):
are you sweating? Neither of us are moving that much.
Things like that, you know, getting getting into it, and
actually kind of like correcting people because if you don't
tell them, they're not going to know, and they'll think
they did a good job. Yeah, stop faking it. I've
faked a lot of orgasms, even as a top and
even while topping, and it's.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
An orgasm you just grunt and.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Twitch a bit. No one checks. They're all too busy
doing their own thing anyway, always check, They never check anyway,
and stuff like that, and you know, it's disappointing. Whereas
if you have to stop faking your orgasms. I started booing,
but that I went a bit farther the way. People
don't like that so much, you know, and you should
feel bad. That kind of thing doesn't work very well. Yeah,

(40:02):
I know. But somewhere in the middle, you know, it's
it's better to be like, okay, now let's try it
like this, or oh yeah, that feels good, keep doing that,
or oh no, don't, or just rearranging things as you
go to make it more fun. And if they push back,
that can be part of the fun. I like it
when they struggle. But also you know, you're you're learning

(40:23):
together and it helps. And you know, if you're if
you're one of those people that like seeing people more
than once you're weirdos, then you learn together.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
You have a particular parson for the younger gentleman caller.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Nothing was ever proved and say illegal, All right, okay,
I mean your.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Age, it's not difficult.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
I was gonna say, considering my age, most of the
people but I could have sex with are already younger
than me. You know that that number is only going
to keep getting bigger. That the number of people getting
older than me is is shrinking, The number of people
younger is constantly increasing.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Do you find you have to educate more.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I mean it depends on I find it easier to
filter for already know what they're doing. So if there's
someone who's kind of hot but seems a bit kind
of gorneless or a bit kind of like that. I
found the really pretty ones tend to be useless in
bed because they've never had to try. They just kind

(41:27):
of like drift through and everything just happens for them.
You know, you can really tell the ones who've always
been hot because they just turn up and expect everything
to go wonderfully for them. Yeah, and yeah, I had
one guy actually, he came around. We were having a
lovely time stripping each other off all of that gorgeous
six pack. He was really hot. Even his dick had abs,

(41:48):
that's how hot he was. And yeah, so I was
I was down there doing my thing. I'm having a
lovely time. And then afterwards he was great, Oh that
was amazing. Did you come too? And I'm like, did I?
Did I come from sucking your dick? Sure? Why not? Goodbye?

(42:10):
And and yeah, So I've found unless they really seem
to know what they're doing, I'm like, no, I'm going
to finishing myself off I might as well just use
your pictures and have the rest of the night to myself.
Whereas if they if they know what they're doing, if
they seem a lot more engaged and like they're actually
listening to me rather than just having a really complicated
wet wank, do you know what I mean? Like, sometimes

(42:30):
you have sex with people and like, oh, you don't
need me here, you just needed something to Sometimes you
do get people or so I certainly have encountered people
who aren't that bothered about the other person. They're just
there for their own pleasure and that's that's that's a
that's a no from me, thank you.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
When you're looking about sex and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I think it communications to the deaf seas I very
much agree. Use your words, communicate, make sure the other
person knows, and if they're not listening or they're not receptive,
get rid find a better one one.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Okay? Cool. So if people wanted to hear some less
TV friendly versions of that swears in it and everywheares
and things, and where would we find it?

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yes, anywhere on the internet. Just search probably true podcast
or River Scott you'll probably find it with my name.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah, Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
That's almost the end of the show now, but on
screen you can see our contact details. It is at
the cud tv on your social media's and if you
want to catch up on previous episodes, you can always
binges on the YouTube's just search Chewing the CUD.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Thank you for watching and we will see you all soon. Bye.
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