EP 176 Guest Dr Eanah

Episode Transcript

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we love the backs, Sports and Lovelies. You are now
tuned in to another episode of Chicks and the Sports.
Now listen, Sports Lovelies. Can you believe it? The weekend
is finally here? Oh my gosh, A lot has happened

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since we last spoken. Trades, injuries, wins, losses, drama and
all that sports tea. You know we're about to spill
some things today, Okay, we're gonna spill some teeth today.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
But most importantly, you need to grab your.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Coffee, you're mimosa, bottle of water, whatever you're sipping on,
and get ready because we have a jam pat show
for you. And guess what. Guess what's sports lovelies. We
have a special guests. You have some special guests. Just
join us after the break. But you listen, I need
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Speaker 2 (01:50):
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Speaker 1 (01:50):
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Speaker 2 (02:09):
But you know what.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Without further ado, I know what you came here to do,
and that is to do what talksports. Yes, yes, yes, no, listen, guys,
you know what NFL the Falcons, you know, Falcons News
Training Camp.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Training camp is just around the corner for our.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Atlians, our Falcons fans, and you know you'll have plenty
of chances to see the team.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Up close and personal.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
The Falcons will host eleven open training camp practices this
preseason at IBM Performance Fields starting July twenty fourth.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
A limited number of free.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Tickets will be available for each session, so be sure
to grab yours early now. Some highlights will be July
twenty six as part of the NFL's Back Together weekend.
Fans will hear directly from head coach Writing Morrison, of
course the GM Terry and guess what appearances from our
faith Freddy the Falcon and of course the cheerleaders and

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some former players maybe in the building as well, so
you know what, make sure you catch that vibe. It's
gonna be a good time now. Also August twelfth through
the thirteenth, the Falcons will hold a joint open practice
with the Tennessee Titans. Have had of the preseason matchup
on August fifteenth at the Bends. Now it's your chance
to watch two NFL teams go ahead to head in

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camp drills.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Now, this upcoming season.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
It's all about arrival of Michael Pennick Junior. You know, look,
this rookie quarterback has has some time to build some
chemistry with Breake London, Kyle Pitts and of course the
rest of the offense. But listen, with his life arm,
aggressive play style and mobility in the pocket, the sky
truly is the limit for the second year lefty out

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of Washington. Now, Love Falcon fans, you need to buckle up,
sports lovelies, because it's going down, aren't you. I'm super excited,
and you know what, we will be there covering our
Ato Falcons. Now, you know, I want to switch gears
just a little bit. Let's go to the side of
the field, you know, Mercedes Benz that is, and let's

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talk about our five stripes Lanta United. Now, of course,
Aurlanta United team. They fell three one two Columbus Crew
Wednesday night at Lord dot Comfield. Now, three first half
goals by Columbus proof too much, despite a second half
strike from Brooks Lennon Market his first goal of the season. Now, look,

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our Atlanta United team, seventeen points, that's where we sit.
We're you know, listen, we're sitting pretty close to the bottom.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Of the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And you know they've scored just twenty three goals in
nineteen matches and the struggle continues defensively, you know. And
all I'm saying is we need to continue to support
our team. You know, look, I know it's hard, but
we gotta keep pushing. We just got to keep pushing

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cause you know, our next game is coming up, and
all that's gonna be an away game cause Atlanta United.
They will return to action on Saturday, July fifth, after
just traveling to face DC United at Audifield kick off
again at seven point thirty. We still have to support
our team.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
We still have to support our team because.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Look, Atlanta in the standings is not as great as
we want it to be, and this is gonna be
a situation that will either knock us down or put
us back up, because this is really a must win
the six pointer to avoid falling further out of somewhat
of a playoff contention. So we gotta support our team. Look, guys, look,

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stay s focus, stay focused, do what you need to
do to get those wins.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Our team. We love you, Atlanta United. Five starts going.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
You got this, you got this at you know what,
at the end of the day, we go to route
for you anyway, right, sports lovelies, So let's go Atlanta United.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Let's go now.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I know, Atlanta Gladiator's right. The season is over with
but there's still some off season preparation and they're finalizing
some re signings, some roster moves. You know. ECCHL training
camps are opening up in September. The front office is
kind of focused on adding size to their blue and
line their blue line, and of course scoring depth to

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bounce back stronger this upcoming season.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
So you know, just.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Suspat announcements some players pretty soon, player signings, and of
course in the upcoming weeks, we got some more news
for our ECHL team, our Atlanta Gladiators. But I want
to stay in that same realm right because NHL the
Stanley Cup A champion has been named. The Florida Panthers
are your twin twenty five Stanley Cup champions after defeating

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the Edmonton Oilers in six games. Yes, congratulations to our
Stanley Cup winners, the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Meanwhile, Edmonton on the other side, they traded veteran Evander
Kine to Vancouver Cannocks for a fourth round pick in
this week's NHL Draft. No. Kaine had nineteen goals and
twelve assists last seasons. The Oilers aren't expected to retool
around Connor McDavid and Leandrasanal as they look to finally

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lift the cup. One day, it's gonna happen. But you
know what, right now, it's all about the Florida Panthers.
Congratulations again to our NHL Stanley Cup champions, the Florida Panthers.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Now, you know so much has been going on.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I told you we had a situation this week.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, the Atlanta Hawks.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
The Atlanta Hawks have made waves in the NBAH Draft,
acquiring the rights to also knew Well to the number
twenty three overall pick from Georgia. Yes, Bulldog, Yes he
is staying home, along with a twenty twenty six first
round pick from New Orleans. And it stays for Derek Queen,
who Atlanta is selected at number thirteen. Now, who is

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asa Noel Listen? He's a six nine work with a
seven to two ringspan, Yeah, sevent two ringspan average, fifteen
point four points, six point nine rebounds. Look, this guy
earned a SEC Freshman of the Week honors four times.
Magic Anthony Edwards and quotes this is what Atlanta Hawks

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GM have to say about Alsa. Alsa is unbelievable with
where the league is going. People with size and athleticism
like that just makes sense. He's a great screener, a
great human being, a ridiculous athlete, and a really smart player.
He's an unbelievable competitor and does things that in past
me in yes, now listen, after the Draft party at

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State from Marina Southern Hip Hop Icon, Pastor Troy hit
the stage and performed, celebrating, of course, our atl culture.
Now I did get a chance to interview him before
the performance, so here check out the exclusive interview with
Pastor Troy looking at just the past.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
You're from College Art.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Did you ever imagine you would be here today?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
You know what? What's so crazy? As I kind of did?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Man?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
When I made this my decision for the career I
want to pursue, That's what I really felt, you know
what I mean a lot of people just want to
be rappers. A lot of people want to be one
hit wonders and things like that. My thing was always
to make this a career for myself. And these are
kind of things that I expect.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
You now, me and from College Park we have College
Far skyhouts. We also have the Atlanta Dreams. Man.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
I love it, man, you know, my daughter's love a
huge basketball fans. So she's playing and hooping and you know,
have me all at the games and everything, man, So
I'm all in for it man, go dream. I was able,
I was here to see the game with Caitlin and everything, man.
So I'm with it man, anything atl Man, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Welcome to the AA side. So super excited about this edition.
Look ire, Atlanta Hawks here continue to build around for
young and of course Jaalen Johnson and with newall expected
to bring versatility, rim protection, of course energy off the
bench immediately.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I'm super excited about it.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
And stay tuned because the season is coming up. Let's
go Atlanta Hawks. Personal lot least, I know, I know,
I know, I know what you're saying right now, You're like,
what are you not gonna talk about the NBA Finals?
I mean, hello, Yes, we nol A champion has been crowned. Yes, yeah,
Stanley Cup champions the Panthers and now we have Okac

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Thunder who are the twenty twenty five NBA champions. Defeating
the Pacers in Game seven one or three, two ninety one,
SGA cemented his superstar status with twenty nine points, five rebounds,
and twelve It sists, winning both fin on MVP and
regular season MVP honors. Now listen okay SE's defensive intensity

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for twenty one turnovers and their young core including Chat
Hungering and Jalen Williams, played beyond their years. Now this
is gonna mark the Thunder's first championship since relocated to
Oklahoma City. Congratulations again too, of course, the twenty twenty

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five NBA champions OKAC Thunder. Did you see that happening though?
I mean, what team were you rooting for? The Pacers
really did put a strong fight, but indeed OKAC came
in and knocked that fight right on out of them.
But again, congratulations too.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Are NBA champions?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah, okay, see now listen sports, I want to change
years again to n l B. Yes, Major League Baseball.
Now this was very interesting. You know this story and
I was just like, what.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Is going on?

Speaker 1 (12:13):
But there was an emotional moment in baseball. Yeah. Arizona
Diamondbacks Catill Marte was brought to tears after a heckler
in Chicago yelled something about his late mother during Tuesday's
game against the White Size No. Marte, who lost his
mother in a car accident when he was a teenager,
was visibly shaken and teammates surrounded him in support. Now

(12:36):
MOB officials have since identified the fan and of course,
banned him indefinitely from attending any games. I want to
know your thoughts on social media. Hit us up on
social media, let us know your thoughts because again, this
is a very yeah, touching story. But at the same time, listen,
fans do that they are half wish they can be brutal,

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they can be brut to. Love to know how you
feel about that story. This is this is very interesting,
but you know what, we got a lot. We still
got a lot to unload. So make sure you stay
tuned because coming up after the Rik is my w
NBA news, So stay tuned. Spurs and Levelies will be bad. Oh,

(13:37):
welcome back. Welcome back to Spirits and Levelies. Yes, our
WNBA news is up on us now.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Our Atlanta Dream are on a two game losing street
as they continue their current home stand.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Now on Tuesday, June twenty fourth, the Dream they.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Fell to the Dallas went to State the fifty five,
unable to overcome an only scoring drought that left them
fighting from behind the entire game.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
No On Friday night, it.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Was lights out, literally, yes, as her Atlanta Dream fell
to Minnesota Leans ninety six to ninety two in overtime
at Gateway Center Arena. Now in the game that included
a brief power outedge. Yes, yes, seeheart got right.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
We were there.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
The lights was out. Lights out. Now, this happened in
the first half. But listen the dream. They fought a
good fight. But despite the loss, head coach Carl Smithscow
remained optimistic about his team's execution and highlighting their resilience
through adversity. Now, listen, guys, her dream. They started Jordan Canada,

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Alicia Gerry Ryan and Howard Brianna Jones and of course
BG moving to five and four with that lineup. Now,
the lost shift Atlanta's all time record against Minnesota two
twelve and thirty two overall, including seventy fifteen at home.
Here's a SoundBite from head coach carls Smesco after the game,
just illustrating hiss optimism.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Really proud of the effort today. I thought, now, we
started off slow, but we fought. You know, we really competed.
I really liked the way that you know, we came
together after being down early. Now, we just got to
pick that next step. We just got to be able
to finish some of these off and that would be
something that we'll spend more time on practice, working on

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end game situations. And you know it's we've played a
great team to just found a way to to steal
this one from us.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Now, despite dropping back to back games, the Dream showed
flashes at their potential with balance scoring and defensive intensity. Now,
don't let to snap this kid and get back in
the win column as to continue their homestand Sunday against.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
The New York Liberty.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Now sports level we used to remember June twenty ninth
Sunday is going down. Last game against Sabrina iroanescue. Look,
they torched the Dream from the deep, knocking down shots
after shots like it was a target practice.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
But here's the thing. The big question is can't Atlanta
limit her production this time around?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Don't need to time up their perimeter defense, communicate on
the switches, and make sure someone is always in her
face behind the arc. Now, look, the Dream has this
or Atlanta Dream have a real shot of just snapping
this losing streak and making a statement at home. So
let's see Let's go Dream, let them rise to the

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town Challenge, and it's going down and I can't wait
because you know what I'm rolling for our atl Dream.
Let's go Atlanta Dream. Let's go. Remember earlier when I
mentioned there was some sports team that I had to spill, Yeah,
it was piping hot. It burnt my lip almost off.

(16:59):
And can I say it was fire and chaos happening? Yes, yes,
And it is so fitting for my nets topic of discussion. Yeah,
it's going to WNBA expansion Chaos Portland Fire and maybe
fire really is the perfect name for Portland's newest WNBA
expansion team, because.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Right now it's a five alarm.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Blaze of chaos before they even revealed their dog gone
logo or even a color scheme. Now here's what's going down.
Less than three weeks before the franchise expected official brand launch,
Portland's new WNBA team is suddenly without its top executive
Now employee number one team president Inkyson, who was hired

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in April to build out the front office, operational strategy,
community partnership, has been fired, Cirsus told The Oregon organ Life. Now,
this leaves the franchise without a leader in its most
permanent and visible role. Now, the firing comes just ten
months before their inaugural season tip off in twenty twenty six.

(18:09):
For contact, you know, expenser teams usually use their year
long run around to finalize branding. You know, merchandise hire
your front office staff and coaching leadership, engaged corporate sponsors
and community stakeholders, and you know, just build out season
ticket sales campaigns. All that jazz that goes into getting

(18:34):
a new team ready for its inaugural season. Now. The
WNBA awarded Portland It's it spanshed team last September, returning
pro women's basketball to the city after the original Portland Fire,
who was basically only there for two years from two
thousand to two thousand and two. It folded. The team
just folded. The team is owned by Kirk at Leiser,

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Buffal minority owners of the Mente Kings. Now listen, details
of Sun's dismissal remains under wraps. Her removal at such
a critical juction has raised so many eyebrows throughout the league. Look,
I'm sitting here clutching my pearls. The Brandon Lunch was

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reportly set for mid July with the name Fire. Yes
circling circulating around just fire. It could be the name,
It may be it you know, but nothing official has
been confirmed. But here's the things for Lovely. Bottom line.
Bottom line, Portly fans are excited to welcome the WNBA back,

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but without leadership in placed, clocks taking fast, fast, fast,
look getting this Suspenson team game ready. We need you
to go over to drama, fix it and stay focused.
So let's hope they can extinguish this front office fire
before I just burns down the whole league. Just listen

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next season, it's coming up. Get it together, Portland, Get
it together. And that is my WNBA.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
For the week.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
So sports and loveliest spirits and lovelies for the upcoming
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they're old episodes, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
You need to catch up.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Because twenty twenty five it's right around corner. To make
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Oh and dream moment stay tuned will be that. Oh

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my god, Oh no she didn't.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Oh no she didn't. Oh oh no, this her for dreaming.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh welcome back and welcome back to sports and levelies.
My esmator on g moment is now upon us so
Petroick Sports Lovelace. The Oklahoma City Thunder just made history,
winning their first ever NBA Championship after taking down the
Indiana Pacers in Game seven. Now the locker room is

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going well. Music is a bumping, confetti is a flying,
and champagne bottles well well, well, not exactly popping. Now.
The young Thunder squad led by SGA and Chat Hombren
and of course Jayla Williams, clearly did not get the

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memo on how to properly pop a bottle of Bubbly.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
It was chaotic.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Courts are flying Southwest. Bottles were being shaken light hands,
and some of them looked like they were about to
give up and just twist the top off like it was.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
A bottle of sport.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
But enter in veteran Alex Caruso, who joined the team
midseason and clearly brought more than just deepens. The thirty
one year old had to literally take the champagne bottles
out of the rookies' heads and give it quick tutorial.
One bottle, twist the wire and angle it is it

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and pieza pop and there was smooth control, championship level
champagne opening. Now, it was the most veteran thing ever
and honestly it's the perfect blend of hilarious and wholesomeness.
But these Thunderboys might be NBA champions, but when it

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comes to celebration etiquette, yeah mm, they need some work.
Ricky's in celebration mode and that is mine estimate ONNGIE
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on social media. Coming off after the ray, it's my
special guest, Stay tuned, will be well. My next guest

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is a Caason psychologist and life coach. Blending over thirteen
years of clinical expertise with the transformative power of creativity.
Sports lovelies, please welcome doctor Ena to Chicks in the Sport.
You've built such a unique career that blends clinical psychology
and creativity. Can you just tell us a little bit

(25:08):
about your background and how your professional journey led to
the creation of Council Club.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Absolutely. So. My background is rooted in two things, my
clinical work as well as systems level psychology. So I
earned my undergraduate and master's degrees from Temple and then
I went to Penn State. I was a health professional
scholar through the Air Force, so I went on to
serve twelve years as an Air Force psychologist. One of

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the most formative roles for me was my work as
an investigative psychologist. So in this role, I was responsible
for not only consulting on felony level crimes that happened
in the military, but for teaching really complex psychological concepts
to federal agents. So I quickly realized that I couldn't
just teach theory. I got that feedback almost in the

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first week that hey, you're not writing to other psychologists,
you're not consulting to other psychologists, So I had to
find a way to make the information usable. My agents
needed to apply this information to real life cases, and
that required me being able to break down these complex
concepts without watering them down. So that skill, I guess,

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the skill of making the science makes sense just sort
of stuck with me. So it's the same philosophy behind
Council Club. So we know that research shows that education
is such a crucial part of healing. So when people
can understand what's happening with their brain and their body,
we find that they're better able to cope, to recover,
to grow. So Council Club was created to sort of

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be a hub for education, connection and factual information. So
it's not meant to replace therapy. In fact, a lot
of people use it alongside therapy, but for those who
are between sessions, between providers, or who don't have access,
it just provides a reliable, expert led welall illness and
content that's meant to help people do meaningful work on

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their own journey.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Now listen, that is so oh my gosh. I would
have never known. This is amazing. Just kind of just
tying into two, but I will say this, you have
such a diverse background, You've worked across different platforms and
of course from.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Therapy rooms to film sets. How do you just.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Balance these roles in what kind of inspires a multi
disciplinary approach to youing?

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Oh gosh, I love this question and it's such an
important one. So for me personally, right, I find that
trying to balance everything can actually be really overwhelming and
sort of a trap, right, especially when roles demand different
emotional energies or in this case, different ethical frameworks. So
for me, it's more about separation and clarity versus balance.

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I don't try to blend everything. I just stay really
mind full of what hat I'm wearing and when. So,
for example, if I'm in a creative or a consulting space,
I make it a point to clarify I'm not operating
as a clinical psychologist in that moment, because people they
don't just think a doctor, you know, is a doctor
and you're there helping, and you know, the next thing,

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you get into small talk with someone and it feels
like a therapy session, which is okay with boundaries. So
education and cult consulting don't mean we're in a clinical relationship.
And I just explained that in a way that's very clear.
It's more about protecting the people I'm working with and
the integrity of the work itself. So similarly, if I

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start working with someone who's a client, they may be
a life coaching versus a clinical client, So I just
clarify upfront and we can manage expectations. This sort of
cross disciplinary work just sort of is rooted in the
reality that people heal in different ways. People need different things.
Some respond to traditional there be other people find transformation

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through story, through art, through music or film, and our
brains respond to resonance, not just logic. So I just
try to meet people where that residence lives and be
clear about what.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
My role is. Wow, now listen, I get some you know,
research and santus. So you have this upcoming documentary coming up,
and this is going to take viewers through a deeply
personal doing journey. Now, of course, I'm all about listening
to people's stories. You have a story, and I want

(29:34):
you to just kind of tell us what your story
is and how was it like to just revisit your
own story on camera, which is even more you know, remarkable,
and just tell us about just that process of the
effect of emotional and the professional side of it.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Oh absolutely, And you know, I'm thank you for asking
you about the documentary. It's been such a labor of
love for me and deeply, deeply personal and sort of
sharing my story to help others. It's probably one of
the most intense things I've ever done, so if people
who follow me or if they're new to my audience,
I became a mother very young. At seventeen, I was

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a mother, and I went through a lot of trials
and tribulations as a single parent and navigating just life,
you know, as a kid with a kid. And unfortunately,
my daughter Desia, shortly after she turned fourteen, she was
in a motor vehicle accident and she passed away very suddenly.
This was in twenty twelve, and there was probably obviously

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that was the most I would say transformative moment of
my life outside of becoming a mother, was losing my
daughter in that way. And for about ten years after
I lost her, I was just sort of getting by,
going through the motions, pushing things down. And in twenty
twenty two, around the ten year mark, I started thinking.
And it's interesting because I came up with the idea

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of the interview to help other people. The documentary it
wasn't even really for me. I wanted to talk to
other people in my life and who were in my
daughter's life and see how they were doing ten years
after the loss, because I'd noticed that we'd all sort
of splintered and separated. We weren't grieving together, we were
all on our individual paths. So as I started doing

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this documentary, though, it stirred up so much inside of
me that I hadn't fully processed. I had pushed down,
I compartmentalized, and the documentary actually led me back to therapy.
Sometimes people find it surprising the doctor or art, but yes,
I go to therapy myself. The real gift in that

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was bringing my family closer and really helping me kind
of reconstruct the narrative around what happened. What happened is
what happened, but me changing the narrative of how I
viewed what happened, and facing my crisises of sort of
my profession, my religion, all of that. It was hard,

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but it opened a door that I honestly didn't even
know was closed, and so I'm grateful for that.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Oh my gosh, your story is so inspirational, But most importantly.
You know, it's so many people right now that just
our navigating grief burnout and just uncertainty. What are some
of the most important tools or just the mindset to
share with just some of our listeners and just how
did you just heel walk away from some of the pain,

(32:28):
and just how what are they going to get from
just hearing your story in general as well?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah, so, I mean we are living in outside of
what people may be going through in their personal lives.
Right We live, we love, we grieve, we lose. That's
happening to everyone every day. But on top of that,
just the world in general. I feel like we're in
this state, in this moment where our nervous systems are
just in like a constant state of overdrive. Our mind

(32:57):
and body are not really recovering from stress in the
short term how they're meant to. It's like ongoing stress
is constantly happening. So when you layer in something like
my story, which is about grief at least this part
of my story, it can become really overwhelming. And what
I want to share most of people when it comes
to grief and grieving and self compassion is there's this

(33:20):
invisible pressure to sort of move on or hit these
like emotional milestones when we're going through this process. But
I always like to remind people, especially when it comes
to grief. We've all heard of these stages of grief.
Even someone who's never picked up a psychology book has
probably heard that there are stages of grief right that
include you know, anger, denial, and eventually end in some

(33:43):
sort of evidence. But it is a huge misconception. The
original model of the stages was developed by Elizabeth Coopler
Ross and it was actually meant to explain the process
of dying, not grieving. I need to explain the stages
that someone goes through with the terminal illness and they
realize they're dying and they end up accepting. So it's

(34:04):
been misapplied. People do it's grief in phases, but there's
no single path. So for me, some of the most
effective things I want people to take away from my
story are self compassion. Please be good to yourself. Research
shows that we can build psychological flexibility with self compassion,
and it can lower cortisol levels in the brain. All

(34:25):
kinds of good benefits emotional labeling, so being able to
put into words exactly what you're feeling and identify it
can help deactivate the amygdala, which is the brain sphere center,
which sometimes goes into overdrive with grief many resets, so
sometimes people think they have to embark on this huge
healing journey, but even small pauses, deep breaths, five minutes

(34:49):
of music can regulate your nervous system over time and
then when it comes to sort of burnout, just normalizing
what's happening, reducing self blame, and ReCl naming some of
that agency. So if anyone hears my story or looks
into it, just know you can begin again. Just because
something takes you, it doesn't mean that they like disqualified

(35:13):
from peace or purpose, and that traditional therapy is there
for a reason. But everyone's not going to fit into
a textbook. You know that the idea is to apply
these contents in a way that speak to how real
people deal with their lives.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Absolutely, and I do have just a click bonus question
for you, because I'm glad that you mentioned that, because
when I think of brief, a lot of people kind
of feel guilt as far as a timetable, you know, like, oh,
it's been five years, why am I still feeling like
this is there like a time table per se to
say falls within or is it you just work do

(35:52):
it at your pass Is that how grief works? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
So there there is no timetable. I would say, yeah,
there's no timetable. When people talk about like healing or
being healed, I always pat the I g on the
end of healing when it comes to grief, because this
will be a lifelong process.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
So think of grief too.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
You're not trying to move past something. You are learning
to live live with something that happened. Now from a
clinical sense, there are ways that grief can become unhealthy
for you, if your grief is causing you to engage
in self destructive behaviors or it's mixed with a deep depression.

(36:34):
But I don't like the idea that there's a normal
way to grieve or that there's a timeline on it.
You just have to look at how it's impacting your
life and how you're integrating it. I love that.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Oh my gosh, that is so important.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
I think a lot of times people get caught up
in this timetable or this moment of Okay, it's time
for me to move on, or maybe I shouldn't and
then I think the guilt just sits in and it
just kind of worsens the situation.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
But I really and it's interesting. It's not always an
external timetable. Sometimes people to hold on to your their
grief for stay in that space because they feel like
it reflects how much they love the person. The level
of their flects the love, and you can learn to
be happy and still miss your person.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Absolutely. Absolutely, Oh my gosh, that is so important. I
am so super excited about this documentary. Could you please
share with the I to listeners where can we find
out more information and what is your social media paid
so we could definitely follow you and just keep up
with everything that's happened.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Absolutely so. For information on the documentary or for becoming
a possible coaching client or any type of collaboration, you
can go to doctor Ena dot com, d R E
A n a h dot com for information about Council
Club to find out to sign up for our founding
member special which we're offering it for free to everybody

(37:58):
for the first year. You can go to Council Club
that's c O U N S E L C l
U B and you can find me on social media
at doctor Ena d R period E A and a H.
And that's across all platforms.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Pro feilh my gosh, thank you so much doctor for
coming on again one more time. Plug in your social
media page for those that may have not caught in
the back.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yes, absolutely that's doctor Ina d R period E A
N A H and that's across all social media platforms.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
So again, such a pleasure. You are amazing. Thank you
again for talking to us. Look, I'm following your journey.
I am so super excited. I am look to chatting
with you again. You are amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Thank you so much, Thank you so much for your
time today, and I look forward to collaborating more.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Sports Lovely It's twenty twenty five units continues to be
all around. I have always said I am the Queen
of elves taken ls, lacking right. I swear if there
was any such person, I am she and she is not.

(39:25):
But listen, in all fairness, I can say the same
about winning right. I've had some major wins throughout my life,
which has always been my motivation to keep pushing for it.
So if you ever find yourself feeling like me, remember
an l it's just an a mis shape w and
it's all about your mindset, okay, But most importantly, sometimes

(39:48):
you have to just lose to.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Win in the game of life.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Remember, dreams don't come true until you do what you
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