Antifa Attacks TPUSA Event, Scott Bessent SLAYS on MSNBC, & Tish Hyman’s CA City Council Showdown

In this episode, we cover it all—from Trump’s viral “Hooray” moment with Pat McAfee to chaos at UC Berkeley where Antifa tried (and failed) to shut down a TPUSA event. JD Vance joins Trump at Arlington, Caitlyn Jenner weighs in on the trans debate, and conservative infighting hits new levels with Ben Shapiro, Megyn Kelly, and Candace Owens all clashing online.

Plus, Scott Bessent schools MSNBC on Argentina, Tish Hyman takes on Scott Wiener in a fiery city council confrontation, and Dennis Prager drops truth bombs on gender ideology. Buckle up—this one’s packed.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
I can't believe that needs to be said, but I'm
glad that someone's saying it.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I'm sorry that reality hurts people, but that's just how
it is. It's like drinking delicious liberal tears. Good morning boy.
I was just telling guest host and co star today, Karin,

(00:29):
who's here with us, As you can see that, I'm
not used to I'm not used to starting the show anymore.
Like usually Daisy's the one that's like hey, and I'm
just like waving, and so now it's like I have
to start the show and that's weird to me. But anyway,
good morning, good morning everybody. It is Wednesday, it is
hump day, and that means we're almost to the weekend.

(00:50):
You just got to hang on for just a little
while longer, I know. And also, Karin, if you want
to let everybody know where they can follow you.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh, I am on Twitter at krinc and Instagram at
Karen Clark.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
And hopefully you can find me. Hopefully I'm not shadowed, man,
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh my god, speaking of that, it's so funny that
you say that, because so many of the insults that
we've been getting on Twitter lately are people going you
only had you posted this at you know, nine o'clock
and you only have I don't know, ten likes or whatever,
as if that's why we're posting. You know what I mean,
I'm always and they'll be like Candice's show is way

(01:31):
bigger than yours. Okay, that's wow. So I'm not gonna stop.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I'm hearing this.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
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(02:03):
talked about, and a couple of cute things happened. First,
Donald Trump was on the Pat McAfee show That's the
Reason for My name today, and he Pat McAfee got
Donald Trump to do the marine hoorrah, right, and I
just love that he did it. It was cute, It
was very well received. Here is that moment in case

(02:24):
you missed it.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Have you ever done an oohrah to a bunch of marines.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
Not the kind that I just heard. I just heard
a level of professionalism with the way they did it
that I don't think anybody can match you. To be honest,
it's very impressive.

Speaker 7 (02:41):
Mister President.

Speaker 8 (02:42):
Why don't you drop an oohrah real quick, I will urrah.

Speaker 7 (02:48):
Yes, okay, we love everything about that.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Isn't that the greatest?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Oh my god, I just love it. You know what
somebody asked and I should have mentioned, everybody's like, where's Dacy?
She is hopefully going to be in the sky just
momentarily on her way here, So just you know, everybody,
just like, send all the good flying Mojo. We've got
a bunch of folks from our Radio America team coming

(03:15):
here for what we're calling our annual slummet. It's not
a summit because we are going to be in Pj's
so we're calling it a slummett. But she's on our
way here, as are several others from our team. So
just if you could just pray for good flying Mojo,
because you know how the skies are right now, like
they're doing the tickers on all the news stations showing
all the cancelations and the delays and whatnot. So just

(03:39):
crossing fingers, and that is another good reminder, by the way,
that tomorrow's show, it will be me and Daisy together
here in my house, assuming that all flights go well,
and it's not going to be a regular show. It's
going to be more of a Q and A show.
And I know I looked at our Insider's page yesterday
and saw that Michelle Sweet Michelle has started a thread

(04:02):
saying put your you know, put your questions here in
this thread that you would like to be answered on
the show. So I know a bunch of people are
doing that already and that Daisy's going to be compiling
those and we're going to spend about forty five minutes
or so answering as many questions as we possibly can.
I don't think that there's going to be a whole
lot of news because after today's show, I'm basically going
to be cleaning the house a little bit and then

(04:24):
going straight to the airport. There's not been any time
to like learn about news. So if you're interested in
a Q and A show, that's what it's going to
be tomorrow and then Friday, you guys, there will be
no show, and that is because we've decided, Daisy and
I have decided to take the day off and do
nothing but binge, watch Netflix and eat. That is all

(04:46):
we're going to be doing all day. We're not going
to be working. So I feel like we're due, you
know what I mean, Like we are due for just
a day of doing nothing but lounging. So that's what
we're going to be doing. I hope all of you
can understand. But we'll be back in full form on Monday.
Speaking of Veterans Day, JD. Vance introduced Donald Trump at

(05:09):
the service at the celebration, the ceremony I should say
that they had at Arlington Cemetery for Veterans Day yesterday.
And you guys, I want you to pay attention to Trump.
In this video of JD. Vance talking, He's sitting off
to the side, and you know how great it is
when you can see Trump just genuinely laugh, and because

(05:29):
it's not often that you get to see that, but
when he does, there's just something so endearing about it.
And JD knows how to get Trump to laugh. Watch
this doing a great job at the VA.

Speaker 9 (05:41):
And I want to say just a couple of things
I've learned a couple of things from working so closely
with the President of United States. The first thing is
that he loves our nation's veterans and has committed our
nation's administration to putting our veterans first every single day.
And the second thing I've learned about the President United
States is that he really hates when somebody who's speaking

(06:03):
before him goes on for too long. And so with
that in mind, I prepared a very brief and very
inspiring one hour and forty five minute speech on this
beautiful veteran day.

Speaker 10 (06:15):
Out here in the cold.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I mean, tell me that's not the greatest I love it.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Actually, what's funny is on b Rewatch, I can kind
of see Trump before JD makes the joke, being like
how long is.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
This going to be known? And then you can see it.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
And as soon as he jokes, Trump like loosens up.
I think he loves being roasted, like that's his faith.
As we've learned, that's kind of his favorite thing to
do to other people. But I think he likes it
back it just like so often he's not getting it back.
It's hard to hard to turn the fire on Donald Trump,
but I think he likes it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I do too. I just I thought that was just darling,
so so cute. Okay, we need to talk about what
happened not last night, but the night before at the
University of Berkeley, because there was a TPUSA event that
was held there and unimaginably, I mean, to me, I'm
just so disgusted by Antifa and these people. I just

(07:13):
cannot believe that they would come to protest a TPUSA
event in the manner that they did, and what I
mean by that, As you'll see from Andrew Colvett's tweet,
he said, Antifa is currently outside of our Turning Point
tour stop at Berkeley mocking Charlie's death, shouting f your
dead homie. What I mean, You can protest something like

(07:39):
an event that you disagree with for whatever reason, but
to mock someone's death in that way is so vile.
And I almost didn't believe it until I saw the
video and heard that that's exactly what they were saying.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
And just.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
There's quitely no mistaking that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
No, and all of those people are wearing masks, and
I don't think it's because of COVID at all.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's because they don't want us to see who they are.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And I'm like, why are you not standing by your words?
If you really believe that, if you can go out
there and screen that into some nineteen year old space,
which is that's the audience. They're all college students. If
you think that's so important, why are you hiding your face?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
That's a great point, and they always do. Yeah, I mean,
just some of the earth. I can't imagine celebrating. I
don't care if Nick Flintest was talking on a campus
and for some reason I was outside protesting. If that,
if someone if Nick Flintest was the one that was
assassinated and then there was like a groper convention that

(08:58):
I was protesting, I would never say that, Like, I
just cannot imagine what kind of evil has to be
inside you, and then in a group setting to just
chant something like that, it was I just can't.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
There are no words, you know what I mean. I
just cannot imagine that people do that. But they do clearly.
But they can suck it because, as you can see
from this screenshot that Andrew Colvett also posted, they had
a packed house. This was at Berkeley. You guys like,
just soak that in that one of the most liberal, progressive,

(09:34):
weird indoctrination centers in the country was filled with TPUSA supporters.
That made my heart happy after seeing the evil in
the video just before that.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I love that, And I think this is such a
lesson because UC Berkeley obviously drops the hammer and wants
to doctrinate all their students and make them super liberal,
and college students kind of had the same reaction all
the time, which is they want to do the opposite
of what whatever the authority say. And it has made
UC Berkeley consistently one of the biggest college Republicans and
turning point groups like in the country. It was actually

(10:09):
a big right, Yeah, UC Berkeley had the biggest college
Republicans group in the country when I was in school,
which was a very long time ago.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Now, okay, don't say that to me.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
It was, you know, fifteen years ago, they had the
biggest and I think it's still true now. And it's
so good to see that kids will stand up to
these these really harsh intimidation tactics and indoctrination tactics and
stand for with Charlie.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think that's.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Sweet, it is it's awesome, And unfortunately because this is
Antifa that we're talking about. There was violence outside of
you know, this event hall wherever it was. It wasn't
just screaming horrible things about Charlie. It was like people
getting into fights. It was violent. They were trying to
prevent attendees from either getting inside or from coming out safely.

(11:01):
They're absolute psychopaths, and you know, Democrats are still trying
to tell us that Antifa doesn't even exist, and yet
they come to these protests they act like violent criminals.
And then unfortunately they got cover from the local CBS
affiliate which tried to say, well, mostly it was a
peaceful protest. I mean, listen to this report.

Speaker 11 (11:25):
Event our Amanda Harry is live on the scene there
where protesters also showed up.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
We've already actually seen at least one fight breakout. Amanda.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, things have.

Speaker 12 (11:35):
Been lively here while that Turning Point USA event is
still happening inside. Protesters have been out here for hours.
You could see them still here behind me. They have
been chanting. Just a very very lively scene out here.
While things have been mostly peaceful, there have been some
tense moments. Earlier this evening, there was a scuffle that
broke out where two men started fighting.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
UC Berkeley police had to.

Speaker 12 (11:59):
Break up that interro. Later, someone was throwing smoke bombs
and a car backfired, leading some of the people who
are protesting to run away. The protest was put together
by students organizing for Liberation.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Some students say they don't believe you see, Berkeley.

Speaker 12 (12:13):
Should host a large Turning Point USA event like this one,
but other people are happy to be here for the event.

Speaker 13 (12:20):
Turning Point USA should not be here, and they are
like a fascist organization, and nobody here agrees with what
they are saying. And obviously, Charlie Kirk has been a
big issue with like a lot of college campuses and
people on college campuses, so we just think, like, I mean,
obviously I didn't really follow him a lot, but knowing
what he did and knowing the things that he was saying,

(12:41):
it's just like vile and disgusting. So we don't want
to support his organization. And I don't think that the
Berkeley chancellor should.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Have let them come here. Okay, okay, so the bull ring,
you know, it's a dead giveaway. I love how she's like,
I don't really follow him or know anything he said,
but he was so hateful. Okay, yeah, you idiot, I mean,
and then of course these are the people, the antifa,
people who are supposedly anti fascist, calling for groups to

(13:11):
be silenced, which is fascism, you guys.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
I can't Yeah, they are fascist.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
And it's either way they're calling for silence or they're
making these terrible, violent demonstrations that make it so it's
so difficult for these students to host events like this
because universities will just say, like, oh, the security cost
is too much, so like de facto, like it's impossible
because no one has the two hundred thousand or more

(13:40):
than that to secure a location. So the schools will
just say like, no, it costs too much money. Sorry, no,
no conservative speakers up here. They they are shutting down
free speech, and then they think they're fighting fascism. I mean,
clearly UC Berkeley is failing some of their students with this.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's just it's such a joke, and it's such a
stunning lack of self awareness on the part of the
people that are part of the agitating group. I mean,
I don't know how they say the things that they
say and don't hear the things that are coming out
of their own faces like it's incredible to me, It's

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three three eight. All right, let's talk about just one
sort of tangentially related protest, because Antifa, the pro Palestine

(16:10):
weirdos saw the same. They're all paid leftist agitators, and
they seem very very proud of the fact in New
York City at least that mom Donnie was elected and
campaigned on a message of essentially defunding the police. And
if he tried to walk away from that, too bad.
We've got all of his past statements about defunding the
police and basically handicapping them and the protesters, as you'll

(16:34):
hear from their ringleader, whoever, this woman is very very
happy about the fact that I think twenty five hundred
cops have decided to either retire or leave the NYPD
because they know what's coming, and these agitators want to
make life even more difficult for cops. Take a listen.

Speaker 14 (16:54):
One hundred police officers resigned this year, a record number.
One of the main reasons they gave, but supposedly any
main overtime hours due to these protips. If I take

(17:17):
a temperature turn, how many of y'all would come out
on Christmas Day and ruin their Christmas? If y'all are done,
we're gonna take over Christmas and New Year's too.

Speaker 11 (17:30):
You're not gonna.

Speaker 14 (17:31):
Let these cops, these politicians, these ignorant people, these media
companies and time these holidays.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes, this is psychotic behavior.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
It is so funny in New York City that they're
mad at the media and the politicians and everybody. Everybody
bought the cops is a liberal in New York City.
So who are you mad at? I think I think
you're mad at your own people.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
It's just I they're I'm just so disappointed in how
many young people are buying into all of this nonsense,
and that they again that they don't hear what's coming
out of their own faces. They're not recognizing that what
they are saying is totally incongruent with what they claim
to stand for. It's just it just it hurts my

(18:26):
heart that so many of them are like this, like
what where are your parents? What have they done to you?
This is it's everything is so messed up with this
crowd of people. Anyway, let's move on because we have
to talk about Scott Bessant, one of the best cabinet
picks of Trump's administration by a mile. He was on MSNBC.

(18:48):
I think this could have been over the weekend, but
you know, on MSNBC, you're going into the lions Den,
and he knew that he was, and he's it's like
a panel of people. He knows he's going in to
the lions Den. It doesn't matter. He's so ready, he's
so calm, he's so absolutely, like exponentially smarter than everyone

(19:09):
at that table. And that's why it's such a joy
to just listen to them, thinking that they're going to
get them with these gotcha questions, and it's such a
big fat fail. So here's a perfect example. A lot
of lefties Democrats are right now trying to claim that
the United States provided Argentina with a twenty billion dollar bailout.

(19:31):
Scott sets the record straight on that of.

Speaker 15 (19:34):
Costs and prices and affordability. How does a twenty billion
dollar bailout of Argentina help Americans? You're the President's point
person on that. Can you explain to those here who
are feeling the pinch, including America's farmers, why the United
States is helping out Argentina?

Speaker 10 (19:51):
Well, can you do you know what a swap line knows?

Speaker 7 (19:55):
It's currency swap? Yes, yes, but what is that?

Speaker 15 (19:58):
You're the treasure of secretary.

Speaker 10 (19:59):
Yes, but why would you call at a bailout? That
is how in most bailouts you don't make money. The
US government made money. We used our financial We used
our financial balance sheet to stabilize the government. One of
our great allies in Latin America. During an election the
president there won the landslide. The government's going to make money,

(20:22):
and I would rather use peace through economic strength than
have to be shooting at Narco boats coming offshore if
the government collapse. We have a generational opportunity in Latin
America to create allies. We just saw an election in Bolivia.
We're probably going to see an election in Colombia. We've
seen him in Ecuador, We're going to see him in

(20:44):
in the Chile. So by stabilizing the economy there and
making a profit, then that's a very good deal for
the American people. And there's a lot we could have
been doing for American farmers. But Democrats close.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I love him.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I love him so good.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I love that this entire administration is so good that
even our treasury Treasury secretary, which in other administrations, honestly
I couldn't even name, like they're forgettable. Even our Treasury
secretary just kicks, but like all the time, right, it's
so nice to see.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Now, now you're making me like, who was the one?
Who was it in Biden's administration?

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Treasury?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Oh, that troll it was. It was Janet. It was
the little goblin with the mushroom lady.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, forgettable.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Janet Yellen, Yes, yes, Janet yellenh my gosh, it wasn't
that long ago, oh, my gosh. But yeah, he's exponentially smart.
I would love to see him and Yellen just talking policy.
I would love it. I would love to see her squirm.
It would be delicious. Uh, but Scott was not done.

(22:07):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Oh sorry, Oh now you think it's.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
So funny that MSNBC is saying, you know, what is
what does it do to give money to Argentina? Which
you know, Scott set the record straight, that's not exactly
what we were doing. But are these not the same
people who cried for a month when we shut down
USAID funding which was just a bailout to foreign countries,
or even dumber things like I'm sorry, what what is

(22:32):
it doing for the US to give Argentina like a
gay and lesbian theater program? That's what ye're doing before,
but now they're now we're trying to stabilize economies, and
they're like, back up, we're not sure if this is
in our interest.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Right, and it's a bailout. It's so I mean, just
the words that they That's why it's so important that
he was like, do you know what this actually is?
You're using the wrong Why are you using this word?
Why are you framing it this way? That's that's the
beauty of this particular administration's cabinet is that they all
push back on the media in such an effective way.

(23:07):
They just won't tolerate the mischaracterizations of what they're doing,
and I freaking love that. I love it. He also
set the record straight about the benefit and the wisdom
of Trump's tariffs. Here is Scott besant on that I think.

Speaker 10 (23:24):
That the tariffs help consumers because we are able to
if you go back and look, we have the brought
down the budget deficit, and if you Mit came out
with a study that said that forty two percent of
the Great Inflation was caused by the big deficit spending.

(23:45):
So as you bring down deficit spending, inflation will come down.
And the tariffs right now we take in substantial tariff income.
Over time that will rebalance as the factories moved to
the US and that will become the corporate income or
wage income. And by bringing down the budget deficit, we

(24:06):
are bringing down inflation.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I know a lot of people, you know, there's mixed
reviews on tariffs and their effectiveness and whether it hurts Americans.
I tend to think that this is a long game
strategy that is working and will work. That's where I
stand on it.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Love you, Yeah, I'm super supportive of the tariffs, and
I do think we have to be in it. Long term,
because there are going to be some prices that go
up and stuff while we're trying to reframe our manufacturing
and how we do business in America. But in the
long run, we should want things made here, we should
have jobs here, and like you said, we're bringing an

(24:49):
income that will pay off the debt, that will lower
inflation overall.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
All of that so good for America.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I think I can pay a little more for
my plastic stuff from China that I order on Amazon.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It's okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Right, that's right. Well, and you know this is why,
because there is, according to Scott Besson, so much revenue
coming in from the tariffs. That's why, you know, Daisy
and I have talked about the fact that we get
real frustrated when then Trump turns around. Is like two
thousand dollars for everybody like, don't the whole reason to
raise this kind of revenue is to offset the deficit,

(25:24):
is to bring down the debt, and so giving more
stimulus is the exact wrong thing to do. I get
that right now. Trump wants a way to endear himself
to low and middle income voters who may be struggling
and blaming him. He wants that hero moment, but it's
gonna backfire if he does that. I just think it's

(25:46):
a terrible it's a terrible idea for the economy rit large,
Like I just it may make people feel good for
a hot minute, but it's it's bad. It just counters
all the good that he's doing with the tariffs. So
I hope that that does not actually happen. There was
I don't know again, I don't know who the players

(26:06):
are on MSNBC, no clue, but one of the panelists
in that same group decided mistakenly to go after Scott
on the fact that you know now that the shutdown
seems to be maybe coming to a close. There's supposed
to be a House vote later today, we'll see. But
because there's talk about that the stock market is reacting

(26:28):
in a very positive way, this guy tries to suggest
to Scott besn't that he is personally profiting from it,
which is, oh, no, you don't. You don't get to
do that, and Scott shuts that down right away.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah, and missus sire, I hope this question doesn't piss
you off.

Speaker 10 (26:50):
Well, I don't know, it's four on one. It seems
about right well.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Okay, yesterday the stock market took a pretty good jump
on new that the shutdown might come to an end.
A lot of people did very well on the stock market,
I assume, and I assume that you probably were one
of them, and good for you.

Speaker 10 (27:09):
That would be an incorrect assumption, because I hadn't sell
all my stocks to become Treasury secretary.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
You sold them all had to, Yes, but you have
a blind trust.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
I would imagine there's no such thing as a blind trust.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Okay, thanks, thanks for shaightening me out on that.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
But anyway, but anyway.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
But anyway, I didn't actually say any of that. Let
me ask my real question. Give me a break. These
people are relentless, relentless.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
They really are. And who are these people? I feel
like you watch clips every day. I watch your clips
every day, Like I do not recognize any of these guys.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Are they new? Like what a sair deal?

Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't know. With MSNBC, I think I kind of
maybe recognized that first guy, like he might be an
actual MSNB guy. I think that guy that was just
asking the question was like a fellow guest. I don't know.
I never watched that station. If I can help it,
unless it's to make fun of them for this show.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So yeah, that's the only reason.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It's the only reason. And so then there were in
this same, you know, the same sort of panel, there
was a clip that Nicole Wallace, who I loathe. I
loathe her. She is from MSNBC. She is one of
the people that I do recognize. She was also referring
back to that panel and to Scott Bessant, and one

(28:34):
of the questions that was posed to him was about
the fact that, you know, people do feel like, depending
on where they are in the country, that grocery prices
are still an issue, and that gas prices are still
an issue, which I don't understand because gas prices are
pretty low, especially when you compare it to the Biden
administration times. But in any sense, in any case, they
asked him about that, and Scott Bessant was like, I listen,

(28:58):
We're for gas prices. They are lowered. Our whole goal
is to lower inflation and as a result, prices will
come down gradually. But we are fighting the previous administration's
huge tick up in inflation. We've been here ten months,
you know what I mean, Like, come on, So she
played a clip of that, and then what she tries

(29:20):
to say about Scott Bessant and the rest of the
administration cabinet is so laughable and again so tone deaf,
so lacking in self awareness. Here is you're gonna see
a little bit of Scott and then more of Nicole think.

Speaker 10 (29:34):
That they that they're and that we inherited an affordability crisis.

Speaker 16 (29:42):
Does anyone thinks Scott bessn't has ever pumped cats wildly
out of touch Donald Trump and cabinet.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
She's gonna say the Donald Trump's cabinet is wild out
of touch. I what, like, I can't. This is a
whole party who's literally funded by George Soros, and they're
gonna complain that the administration's cabinet is out of touch.
I can't. I can't. I you gotta take that one, Karan,

(30:19):
because I can't.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
I don't know if Scott besen like if he pumps
his own gas, but I am confident he knows how
to read. So that's all I need him to do
when he's talking about gas prices is read.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
The difference between.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Now and the entire entire administration Before us, the Biden administration,
gas prices were all like so you're going down at all.
I trust he can read a chart. Do you does
she think he can't do that?

Speaker 2 (30:49):
And do you are you trying to tell me that
Nicole Wallace pumps gas? Really? I mean if she the
fact that she thinks that she is the one that
is in touch. After they called the elections so wrong,
after they called so much of the country's sentiment about
where we were as a country under Biden, they called
it so wrong. And she's like, you're at attention. He

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(33:08):
programming note and that is I know I mentioned that
there's not going to be a show from me and
daisy on Friday. But guess what, there will be you
guys at exactly eight o'clock, which is normally our showtime.
If you tune in on YouTube, I'll have to ask
producer Vallen where else you can do this, But she

(33:28):
is going to premiere our interview with Scott Jennings that
we did yesterday. Scat Jennings, I know you don't per,
or do you? Can you per? I can'not per. I'm
not capable. I wish I can't either. I wish I
could too, but I can't do it. So if you're
out there and you can roll your rs, please feel
free to do a Daisy per right now. But in

(33:49):
any case, we talked to Scott yesterday and it was great.
I mean, he's always so so easy to talk to
and so interesting and we talked to him for a
good forty minutes or so. And so Vallin is going
to premiere that interview at eight am on Friday, So
if you watch on YouTube, it'll look just like our
regular live show. You'll be able to chat, do all
the things, So make sure that you're checking that out

(34:11):
Friday morning. In the meantime, Scott was on with Anna Navarro.
This was I think the night before last where they
were talking about Obamacare, and of course Democrats right now
are trying to make Obamacare Republicans fault, as you know,
as part of this whole shutdown discussion. They're trying to say,

(34:33):
you know, if we open the government, then all of
these healthcare subsidies are going to go away. Well, there
are subsidies because Obamacare sucks so hard and it's it
was called the Affordable Care Act, it has been anything
but and that is not on Republicans. As Scott Jennings
tries to point out to Anna Navarro.

Speaker 17 (34:54):
People are not going to be able to afford their insurance.
I don't think even with subsidies, they're going to be
able to uh to afford the premiums that are hiking
up one hundred, two hundred and three.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Sposed to fix on people.

Speaker 18 (35:07):
No, well not without the universal I mean, there's affordable care.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
You get to do this? How did they get to
rewrite history like this?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yeah, I was joking with Daisy the other day about this,
Like they are complaining that Obamacare is doing exactly what
we told them it would do, which is empowered insurance
companies and hospitals to charge whatever they want and you
have to pay it because you're mandated to purchase the insurance.
There's no this is not a big surprise. We literally

(35:44):
said this was going to happen now. Anna Nabarro is
like suddenly twenty eleven Paul Ryan.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Right, I totally forgot about Paul Ryan.

Speaker 6 (35:56):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I mean on that past, he was so good on
that issue before he got annoying.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
He was so good on Obamacare.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
He was and that was such a I mean, Obamacare
as a whole was such a call out to conservatives.
It was such a rallying point, you know, because absolutely
no one voted for that crap. Everybody, every Republican, every
every Republican was sensed. Was like, we can tell you
right now, what's going to happen. This is a terrible idea.
Look at the kittie cat, you guys, I told her

(36:27):
don't kick him out because animals just busting into our
show is kind of a normal everyday occurrence. So we
like it. I think you guys all like sutching it up.
It's a cat, that's right, that's right, it's a cat. Okay. So,
speaking of Scott Jennings, there was also, Trump was on
Laura Ingram. You know that Laura Ingram interview that happened.

(36:49):
I think there was like a second part of it
that was played last night, and a lot of people
are mad at Trump about his attitude towards H one
B visa's right now. And I'm not going to play
the clip of the interview because you can check that
out on your own, and you know, you can think
about H one B visas as you will. I tend
to agree with Laura Ingram on this idea that right

(37:09):
now there's just too much immigration. If we want to
retain talent in the United States, if we want Americans
to do American jobs, then why do we keep bringing
in so many people from overseas on these H one
B visas? And that was her point. It's another point
of contention between Trump and Laura Ingram. They definitely do
not agree about that, and so there's been, you know,

(37:33):
there's been some infighting, I guess you can say on
the right when it comes to that topic. So there
was a Democrat strategist on the panel with Scott Jennings
last night on Abby Phillips's show who was trying to
say that we on the right are like having a horrible,
horrible time with Trump as president because of this, and

(37:55):
I loved the way that he responded to her. It
was perfect. Take a listen, this.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Sucks for you, guys, because he has put Trump has
put you in a very difficult position, because if my
colleagues have said here, right, if Joe Biden or any
other Democrat would have said this, you'd be like, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 18 (38:12):
I don't know you very well, but I can assure
you that the condition of Donald Trump being the president
versus Joe Biden, in no way, shape or form sucks
for me or Jim Well.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
I think it's I think it's quite difficult to defend
somebody who puts you in a position of saying we
should put somebody else besides America, especially when he's just
giving it's billions of dollars to bail out Argentina.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
I think it.

Speaker 18 (38:31):
First of all, it was a currency swap which we
made a profit on. Number two, it's quite easy for
me to be perfectly comforted with the president of the
United States, who's presiding over a broad coalition that does
have disparate views the previous administration. You don't even you
couldn't sid here and tell me who the hell was
in charge?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
This is beautiful, beautiful, I freaking love him. They canna
wait for everybody to see that interview. You've got to
tune in on Friday morning because it's a good one.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, he's well, he's just completely right because even if
Donald Trump said I want to bring in a gajillion
people with a twe b's, he has a party, a
coalition of people who will disagree. Even I think Jade
Vans would come out and say, I don't. I don't
think we're going.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
We're not a total monolith, like we have a diversity
of opinion. There would be a debate, there would be
a discussion, and it probably wouldn't happen, which I think
is is good. That would be what I want. But
it isn't like that with the Democrats. If they had
Biden like rambling on something, it's like, well, I guess
that's the autopen law.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Now, Like that's right, that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
They all fall in line. Yeah, is your cat wagging
her tail? Is his tail?

Speaker 3 (39:46):
He was, he was, He loved Scott Jennings.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
He's purring over Scott Jennings.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
He asked, he heard us say, can someone per for Scott?
And he's like, I got this hanging on.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
That is perfect. I have to show This clip is
like sort of apropos of nothing. But you guys remember
on Halloween when jd Vance completely embraced the whole meme
version of him, the ridiculous curly hair, he had the wig,
he did the things because Republicans know how to take
a joke and he was awesome at it. And so

(40:24):
this apparently has sent Harry Sisson over the edge, you guys,
so much so that he went on the Possum Ladies
podcast to talk about it. This is like the three
worst people in a room ever together. Behold had it
or hit it?

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Jd Vance's Halloween cost him.

Speaker 19 (40:47):
Oh god had it?

Speaker 10 (40:50):
He?

Speaker 19 (40:51):
I think it was Tommy Vitor who you were talking to,
and he said, I'm so sick of losing to fucking losers.
Jd Vance is such a fucking Yes, he is such
a loser. He's one of those insecure men I just
described earlier, and I think Jennifer you described him as like,
you know, a failed drag queen. It's what he always
wanted and then he you know, he had to write
the book and you know, pretend to be that, and

(41:13):
then now he's vice president. It's what he always wanted.
He is such a loser. He's an insecure man. He
doesn't have a job. All he does at the White
House is troll He went after me on Twitter. There's
no you cannot be an elected official at that high
and going after twenty three year olds on social that
cannot be the way. And so I hate JD. Vans
and so I've I've certainly had it with his dumb
ass costume, his dumb ass face and everything he does.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
For a baby, I'm for a baby.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
I love how upset he is. I just it's like
drinking delicious liberal tears, you know what I mean. It's
that is a level of co brand, Like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
JD just failed his way to the vice presidency. He
wrote a book, what it became a successful movie. Then
he was I can just send it an a vice
president like an effing loser.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Okay, he doesn't even have an job, that's what he's saying.
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I also have to say, those possome ladies, I feel
like they're a little too old to be plane had
It or hit It? That feels like a gen Z game.
I feel like I'm too old to play that game.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Well, I can't talk about age obviously, so they may
be younger than me. I don't know. I actually have
no idea how old they are. I mean, they keep
messing with their faces.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
So how did I know they have an energy that
feels very old to me?

Speaker 20 (42:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Well, yeah, because they're so bitter, you know what I mean,
They're so desperately unhappy. Yeah, for sure. And then just
to have Harry Sisson on as like a I mean
to comment on anything, it's so absurd on every level,
absolutely every every level. I don't know who watches that,
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moving on, I hope folks remember I guess it was
a week or so ago when we introduced you to
or perhaps you already knew of Tish Hyman. Tish Hyman,
if you don't recognize that name, is a songwriter. She's
a black lesbian woman who was in a locker room

(44:47):
at a golds gym and she was presented confronted, if
you will buy, a biological man who was in the
locker room when she was butt ass naked, and she
released a video about it in her car. She was
super upset, rightly so, because then even as she confronted
this man and told him he had no business being

(45:08):
in there, there was like a big hull of blue
mate about it. And it turned out that Gold's gym
ended up canceling her membership and not the dudes. It
was ridiculous, and I mean, I know since then, Joey
Swoll has like tried to get her a membership at
a different gym. Most normal people have come out in
huge support of Tishiman, and she's been obviously talking about

(45:33):
this issue a lot. We've been talking about it for ages, right,
and this is, you know, the biological men in women's
sports issue, men in women's locker rooms and bathrooms issue.
This is something that we've been talking about for a
long time. So she decided to attend a city council
meeting where her state senator, that disgusting creepy Scott Wiener

(45:57):
guy was speaking, and she decided to confront him about
this issue because he's been one of those soft weeny like,
soy boy, creepy dudes about it?

Speaker 14 (46:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
He's been all like, oh, I just want everybody, no
matter who they are, to feel comfortable.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
You don't want women to feel comfortable. You are catering
to the trans community and there's no two ways about it.
So she confronted him. She was so good. You can
see the entire video on anywhere, the to himans posts
on socials, but here's a good chunk of it because
she's so good, and she's wearing as a bonus an

(46:36):
xxxy sweatshirt, which I just loved. Here is the moment
she confronts no pun intended Wiener.

Speaker 21 (46:45):
The only black lesbian here. Please ask you a question
because I flew here to do that.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Okay.

Speaker 21 (46:51):
As a lesbian woman who was attacked in a woman's
locker room at Golds Gym this week by a self
identifying trans woman with the documented history of domestic violence,
I'm deeply concerned about women's safety and the female only spaces.
What would you say to women who are seeking assurance
that their safety will be protected from men who, by

(47:13):
California law, can self idea as women in t women
only spaces sir, please tell me.

Speaker 20 (47:20):
Yeah, so we want, I mean, everyone to be safe.
And we also know that you know, we have trans
trans people both men and women who are men and women.
Uh and so uh you know we h. So if
you're a trans women are women.

Speaker 21 (47:39):
Senator, You've done great things with the bills you've passed,
with the housing I've t I've read a lot of
your bills, but and like you said, there are bills
that need to be opened up. And I'm telling you now,
millions of women across in America are being harassed and
sexually assaulted in lack of room. I'm lesbian, black women.
I'm not transphobic, I'm not homophobic, and I do respect
a lot of the things you've done. But I do

(48:00):
see a lot of these bills that you've passed that
are dangerous for women and young children.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
And I understand that you're.

Speaker 21 (48:05):
Trying to be on a level playing field. And I'm
here to representing my community because I hear a lot
of things about my community and these bills, and I'm
telling you, as a woman first and foremost, that this
is dangerous.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
And we need your help.

Speaker 21 (48:16):
Because you're in the office. You're gonna go into policity spot.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
I want to support you.

Speaker 21 (48:19):
I have millions of people behind me watching this right now,
and we want to know. Are you going to protect women,
not trans women?

Speaker 20 (48:27):
Women?

Speaker 21 (48:27):
Women, trans women are different women.

Speaker 19 (48:29):
Women.

Speaker 21 (48:30):
Listen, we need to protect women's safety. I was assault No,
they are not.

Speaker 7 (48:35):
They are men.

Speaker 21 (48:36):
I was assaulted by.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
He broke his mike's jaws, so brass, you need to
reconstruct the serge of me.

Speaker 19 (48:43):
I'm a lesbian.

Speaker 21 (48:44):
I'm not transport because I'm black. So if there's another
black woman in here who.

Speaker 9 (48:47):
Wants to tell me how they feel, please join in.

Speaker 21 (48:50):
But all of you are not and I don't know
who you are and what you are, but I'm a
lesbian and I'm telling you right.

Speaker 7 (48:55):
Now, men are harassing women in.

Speaker 14 (48:56):
The locker room.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
Answer the question.

Speaker 21 (48:59):
I'm just since I want.

Speaker 7 (49:00):
To woo woo, just let's right away.

Speaker 21 (49:03):
I respect what you have done. I just want to
let you know that let's.

Speaker 7 (49:06):
Get let's get.

Speaker 20 (49:09):
I appreciate point of you. I'm so sorry that you
were multiple times. I appreciate you talking about it. I
think we need to protect the safety.

Speaker 10 (49:18):
Of all women, and.

Speaker 20 (49:21):
That obviously that's incredibly important. I also know that trans
women are also rutalized in this country. So women and
women are brutalizing this country, and we have to protect
the safety.

Speaker 21 (49:36):
We have to protect women. We cannot be raised in
the bathrooms by men that want to say that women
they're not women, they're not women.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
I'm leaving.

Speaker 21 (49:43):
It's okay, but I'm.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Not going to take lea.

Speaker 21 (49:45):
I am leaving because you know what, you guys are
not protecting women. You're doing a lot the bills that
you're passing for the law.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
I've read a lot of them.

Speaker 21 (49:51):
They're great, but there's things with the trans It's not right,
thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And it w like she I think she found like
a supporter on her way out, and so she was talking.
I mean, she was still making her point well after that,
but that was the gist. So you needed to see
how he was terrified of her, which I just kind
of loved. He was scorming so hard.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
What I think is crazy.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
It's like you can tell when liberals get caught in
this situation that they also don't really believe the line
of rhetoric that the party's viewing it. Like you saw
how he struggled, like men and women are out there
being men and women.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
It's like, what but it's like.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
A humiliation ritual, Like they do not believe it either,
but they are forced to say it and it makes
no sense. So of course they also doubt it, which
is kind of I'm like, thank god, they actually do
doubt it, like they're not totally off their rocker, but
for some reason they repeat it anyway, even though they
clearly don't think that.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
I know. I mean, it's just such nonsense at this point,
and I would have thought. I mean, I feel like
we have seen the pendulum swing, maybe not swing all
the way back, but it has righted itself to some
degree after all of this nonsense that took place under Biden.
You know, Trump made a lot of moves about this

(51:19):
specific issue, and I feel like, because it's such an
eighty twenty obvious issue that you know, we were starting
to see some positive changes, but there are still the
Scott Wieners of the world that only care about appeasing
this tiny minority of people. I will never understand it.
It's a terrible strategy, but unfortunately in California it works.

(51:41):
And you were telling me in pre show, I didn't
realize this that he is running for Pelosi's seat.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, yeah, Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
I I don't know how likely it is that he
actually will win. I'm not sure who else is running
or anything, but he's thrown his name in the ring
for Pelosi seats. So that's a huge, oh my god,
huge deal. He wants to be in Congress, not just
in the California State Senate where they're all fricking crazy.
I definitely don't want him voting on federal laws when

(52:11):
he can't even say he can't even say what a
biological genders exists.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's terrifying that he could actually
be Pelosi's replacement. Oh my god, that is terrifying. On
this same topic, Dennis Prager released a video about the
fact that men cannot become women. This shouldn't be news,
this shouldn't be anything earth shattering, But he did it

(52:38):
in a way that only Dennis Prager can. And he
actually drew on his own personal experience of having the
spinal cord injury to make an analogy, which I thought
was perfect.

Speaker 7 (52:48):
Take a listen, Okay, you can't become the other sex.
You can't. It's just the way it is. You can't
become another's bcies. You can't becoming the other sex. You
can think you are, like I think my fingers are moving,
but they're not moving, nor have you moved. The trick

(53:16):
is to make peace with the sex into which you
were conceived and came into this world. That's it. That's
what responsible therapy would involve. Not let me help you

(53:40):
accept your delusion. Would a doctor help me help me?
Right now, Dennis, if you think you're moving your fingers,
you really are. We're going to affirm that you're moving
your figures. That would not help me.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Perfectly stated, I know it is so perfect that that
does just break my heart for him.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I know, I know, but like the fact that he
is in his situation and is still using his platform
to speak truth like that to try to get the
right message out. It's just I just admire him so much.
By the way, I saw somebody in the comments say
that Pelosi's daughter is also running for Nancy seat, and

(54:31):
that's not true. She's actually running for state Senate. She
might actually be running for Wiener's seat. Amazingly, so, I'm
surprised that she's not running for her mom's seat. That
that's a real shocker to me because you would think
it'd be such a slam dunk if it's another Pelosi
on the ballot, but I guess she's just running for
state Senate at this point, so anyway, she is not

(54:53):
running for that same seat. Lastly, on this topic, Caitlyn Jenner,
who of course is a tran person and who also
was an Olympian, has always been on the right side
of this issue. Despite the fact that Caitlyn Jenner tries
to live as a woman, Caitlin is very aware of

(55:14):
biological reality and I appreciate that. And so, uh, here's
Caitlin on Fox yesterday talking about this whole issue.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
My final thought is this, look at.

Speaker 18 (55:27):
Uh, I am a trans woman, but I am still
biologically male.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
Am x y.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
There's nothing I can do to change that.

Speaker 18 (55:39):
Males do have a better advantage and much big, a
big advantage in sports over women.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It's just not fair. I don't know why this is
so hard for people.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
It is completely ridiculous that this has to be said,
and I think I think Caitlyn Jenner is a great
voice for that because as Bruce Jenner obviously won the Olympics, Like,
could you imagine had he competed.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
In a women's.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Category, like people would not be able to break those
records today still, So I can't believe that needs to
be said, but I'm glad that someone's saying it.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, for real. I mean, that's always one thing that
I've appreciated about Caitlin is just that level of honesty
and reality, because so many trans people just deny actual
reality and they just insist on being not just accepted,
but like approved of and adored for their delusion. And
I don't I'm not participating. I'm sorry, but I'm not

(56:43):
ever gonna. So I'm sorry that reality hurts people, but
that's just how it is. Okay, we have to talk
about the rights in fighting, and of course this all
is connected to Ben Shapiro, to Matt Walsh, to Tucker Carlson,

(57:05):
to Seth Dillon, to Candace to Megan. Everybody is now
involved in this weird sort of civil war that people
are finding their side and it's just fascinating to watch.
The most recent sort of twist in this story is
that you may have seen clips of Ben Shapiro on
tour on one of Megan Kelly's tour stops. This was

(57:26):
a few days back where he said. He said to Meghan,
you should be talking about the Candace stuff because she's
pure evil. She's essentially accusing Erica Kirk of murdering her
own husband. And Meghan was like, what, I haven't heard
her say that. That is a shock. So just to

(57:47):
recap for people exactly what he said, here is what
he said.

Speaker 22 (57:53):
Tour on the Left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk
of his wife having murdered him. I assume that you
would be talking about it.

Speaker 8 (57:59):
Is that what this is accusing Erica of Yes of
murdering her own husband.

Speaker 22 (58:03):
She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right wing,
including Seth Dyllan, of being involved in the murder of
Charlie kark yas.

Speaker 8 (58:11):
Okay, Like I said, I don't take in that content,
which is an honest statement.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I don't have time to watch that, believe you, Okay.
So you could hear him qualify what he was saying.
That she is accusing insiders at TPUSA of being involved
in Charlie's death. She's been very clear about that. So
Meghan decided, and I don't know why, but Meghan decided,

(58:37):
I'm going to take that to mean that Erica. That
what Candace said is that Erica pulled the trigger, and
that's what she went with. And so last night, or
maybe the night before, at another one of her tour stops,
she called out Ben for lying, which was a real
shock for me to see Megan do this. But here's

(58:58):
what happened at Here's what Meghan said.

Speaker 8 (59:01):
He said that Candace has been claiming Erica Kirk was
behind the murder of Charlie, which I had not heard,
and I was taken aback because that seems like something
I would have heard. It's so crazy, and I have
since learned it is not true. Candace has not made
that claim, and in fact, I've now seen several clips
of Candace specifically defending Erica Kirk and saying she would

(59:25):
never make a claim like that about Erica and that
she you know, she is open minded to other people.
At turning point, that's obvious she's been making that point.
I had heard that point that, but she has. But
she's specifically been defending Erica Kirk, and she's been saying
she does not think that of Erica. And in fact,
if you read her comments, she's under pressure to make
comments about Erica and so far what I've seen, she hasn't,

(59:46):
so thank you for that question.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Anyway, we'll get into the nitty gritty of how accurate
that was. But Candace loved it and retweeted it saying,
thank you, Megan Kelly for clarifying Ben Shapiro quite literally
lied to your face and to your audience about my words.
Rarely in politics do you see someone lie so brazenly
in an effort to morally black someone into their position.

(01:00:13):
Trying to equate questioning turning point USA employees about their
verifiable lies to accusing Erica Kirk of murdering her own
husband is a vile and obvious attempt to shut down
further investigation, and it will not work.

Speaker 9 (01:00:29):
But what are you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Supposed to make of it? When Candace puts out content
like this where she says, the things I've discovered this
past week are enough to burn the house down. Charlie
was betrayed by everyone. What are you supposed to take
from the everyone?

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I think the implication was, And then I think a
lot of people reading the tweets would assume that she
meant Erica Kirk. And it is my opinion that she
meant people to assume that, because that's the most salacious thing,
and that is what drives clicks, and that's what drives
viewers to her show. I will say, like, and I

(01:01:18):
sent you the clip. I'm not a I'm not a
Candace Megan defender. I don't think they need me to
defend them at all. They're clearly fine defending themselves. But
I think that she plays, she plays this game where
she says the most crazy thing so everyone's like, oh
my god, and then they tune into her show, and
then on her show she'll like be a little more

(01:01:39):
nuanced than she is in her clip or in her tweet,
because she did release an episode before Ben said that
that said like, I know some of you think that
this means I'm saying Erica is involved. I am not
saying that, you know, so she did. She did say
that she doesn't think Erica did it, and there is

(01:02:00):
a clarification. But I think what we're seeing right now
is just this like really gross game of clickbait where
she didn't mean people to think that, and then we're
getting into semantics of like, well she didn't literally say that,
and then you know whatever, I don't really like, I
don't like, I hate this so much because I do

(01:02:21):
like it's an intentional manipulation of audience. And then we're
getting into this huge discussion about it, and it hurts
a lot of people's feelings and I don't think it
helps any of us.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I just, you know, I feel, But it is so
for me it's important to take a stand because I
think so much of what she is doing is what
Ben said. It's pure evil. The manipulation, the wordplay, the insinuations,
the implications, it's all so evil to me. And when Megan,

(01:02:57):
who I admire so much, refuse to call it out,
it just it makes me. It makes me crazy, Like
I just I don't understand why. I don't understand what
Candace has on over her that makes her so different
on this topic than she is on anything else, you
know what I mean. And so yeah, I saw the
clip that you talked about too, where Candace says I'm

(01:03:19):
not coming after Erica because like Eric's, Erica so far
hasn't lied, she hasn't said anything that has made me
come after her. But but that's a lie and it's
it's it's it's again, it's a bunch of wordplay, which
I thought this tweet from Gina Milan was so perfect
at saying she said, I love Megan Kelly, truly do.

(01:03:39):
But let's be real here. To say Candace is defending
Erica Kirk is beyond far fetched. She is openly accused
the entire TPUSA organization of being involved in Charlie's death.
That's not defending. That is a full on smear. What's
even worse is watching people tiptoe around it instead of
calling it what it is. I wish more people have

(01:04:01):
the guts to tell the truth and stop letting fear
of online backlash dictate what they say. It is honestly
pathetic and deeply disappointing. And I don't know, you know,
don't Megan is trying to say that that Candice has
been defending Erica, then I would like her to respond
to this video and explain how this is a defense.

Speaker 11 (01:04:22):
I want you to imagine you get a phone call,
okay from whoever, saying that the person that you love
most in this world and the person that you're married to,
has been shot. How fast you're getting off that phone,
You're staying on the phone, You're asking questions. There's a
series of questions that need to be answered.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
You scream, what do you mean? What are you talking about?
Where is he? Where do I go? Blah blah blah
blah Is he Okay?

Speaker 11 (01:04:42):
There are a litany of questions that would be asked,
and please don't tell me that this is some situation
where that wouldn't be the circumstance. And I am so
tired of that. You wouldn't know what you would do.
I do know that you're asking a series of questions.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Who is she implicating in that rant? If not Erica Kirk?
I mean, like, how is that a defense Erica? She's
literally complaining about her initial reaction to hearing that her
husband had been shot. I mean, I don't know how
that's a defense of Erica Kirk. I just I don't
get it. I don't get it. And by the way,

(01:05:15):
there's just a couple of Candy quotes, because this is
this was so funny to me. This is yesterday that
she said, I will never forgive Zionists the absolutely appalling
scum of earth approach of watching a man be murdered
and then climbing into his body like Maggot's fighting to
lie about who he was there is no truth in

(01:05:37):
these people. Holy lack of self awareness. Oh my gosh,
she could have written that about herself. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
Yeah, that is what bothers me about the in fighting
here is like, I think, yes, it's important to say
this stuff is disgusting. This is obviously crazy, and a
lot of stuff that she says is crazy. I think
it very intensely manipulating people emotional response to get clicks,
to get people on board. And there's a reason that
more people are watching her show now than ever, and

(01:06:08):
I think half most of that reason is the crazy tweets.
And you're like, she didn't really say that, did she?
Because I know I've tuned in so much more because
I'm like, she couldn't have really said that, right, And
then I'll watch the show I'm like.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Uh, okay, why did I do that? Like I just
fell into the I fell into the trap.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
But I think you have to like to confirm, You're like,
I have to confirm this stuff. But what sucks to
me is like the people that like killed Charlie, they
are not asking you where you stand on this, and
they're not going to ask you if you condemned Nick Fuintes,
and they're not going to care if you like stood

(01:06:48):
with Seth Dylan versus Matt Walsh versus Megan Kelly versus
Tucker Carlson, Like they hate you the same amount and
they would kill you if they could, and they don't
care about any of that stuff. And that's what makes
me so sad, is like we're fighting over these things
when really we should see that there are bigger things

(01:07:09):
to fight. And I don't know, it just is like
it's a sad thing that we can we get into because.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
They hate us. They hate us and they want us dead.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
And there are people celebrating Charlie's Charlie's death and yelling
f you're dead, homie. They they're not asking you if
you watch Candice or not before they say that, they're
just trying to break you down. And I think we
have to we have to figure out a way to
not make these fights happen, Like people have to be

(01:07:39):
better people and realize there's a better, a bigger fight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
I totally get that, and it's you know, it's actually
something that Daisy and I talked to Scott Jennings about.
Is just this which is the right strategy? Is it
that that you ignore the fact that this is happening
within your own ranks because the bigger issue is the
left and they're psychosis, Or do we have a responsibility

(01:08:06):
to call out the crazy on our own side? And
so I have been, you know, I've been on that
latter viewpoint that you can't just ignore the biggest podcaster
in the world influencing millions and millions and millions of
people and act like it's not happening and like it's fine,
Like how do we ignore that when she has that

(01:08:27):
level of influence.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
I don't think we can. And so that's where it's
a struggle.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Yeah, I don't think it can be ignored at all.
So sorry, don't like get me wrong, I'm not just
saying that at all, but I feel like we have
to get to a point where like the point is
to condemn it, to get over this hill so that
we're like together instead of like, I don't know, brushing
everybody away because we can't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:51):
And that list is just getting longer.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
It's like, oh, Candace, it's Megan, it's Brett Cooper, it's
Matt wallsh It's like, how many people are we going
to say we don't need anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Yeah, I think it's too many.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
But worse than that, it's like, yeah, these people would
all be shot for agreeing with us. No one's going
to see that there's nuance between us in them when
they're targeting people. So like, we do have to work
something out. I just I don't even know. I don't
even know what.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
I don't know. I know it's such a it's such
a cluster, and it's just so infuriating that we're having
to deal with it. When we were on such an
ups you know, like there was so much winning and
then all of this this ship storm happened, and it's
like now we're having to react to it, and it
just sucks because now, you know, some of Trump's biggest supporters,

(01:09:42):
like Candas back in the day, are now so against
him and so fighting him and everything that he's trying
to do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:50):
And I just hate it, and I hate that I
say the same thing, like, yeah, do you think that
you think that they're asking for nuance of whether you
agree with Trump on H one b's before they like
put a target on you.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
They're not right, So this is pick your fight, you know,
come on?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Yeah, I totally I hear you. I hear you, but
it's it's like almost like an impossible You can't You're
in a rock and a hard place, like there's no
good answer to how to deal with this. It's all
we can do is just hope, like hell that it
somehow goes away. I don't know how that's gonna happen, man,
I hope it. I am dying for it to go away. Well,

(01:10:33):
we do have some thank yous to get to from
the ballpit crew from yesterday. Keena sixty two said, I
don't believe they're being elected, more like installed. I'm not
sure what that referred to exactly, but we appreciate it.
GTG nineteen eighty seven said thank you for the awesome show.
Thank you very much for that. Kelly Wiseman said, dad

(01:10:54):
joke Wednesday, jerks, what do you call a parrot that
doesn't fly? A walkie talkie? Almost one week knee replacement in.
I can do this, lol, all my love and have
a fantastic weekend with the team. You can do this.
You've got this. Let's see from Oh. I better go
to my phone because I saw some come in that

(01:11:16):
way and I don't want to miss anybody, which I'm
always prone to do. Let me make sure I get everybody.
Uh is that yesterday? No, that's today, okay, Karen Zia Zolia,
I have no idea if I'm saying that right or not.
It says it's been two weeks since we buried our
eighteen year old son. Oh my god, lost to a

(01:11:39):
tragic accident. Everyone hug your kids tighter, always say goodbye
and I love you. We will see you again. Mak
I've been praying for your family and your precious Thomas.
Stay strong, you, stay strong, Karen. Oh my gosh, prayers
right back at you. Deb Probasco said a little something
for a well deserved Chicks Netflix Day on Friday. Enjoy

(01:12:00):
your time together. Thank you so much for that, Colleen
W said, dad joke Wednesday. How do you make a
tissue dance? Put a little boogie in it, and enjoy
your girly Netflix and chill. Ps. This is a tip
for Corinn and her kitty. And they want to know
your cat's name.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
His name is Stark. Stark from iron Man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Okay, great job, Krinn, thanks for stepping up. And then
also from Donna Birch, she said, Hi, chicks going in
for hip surgery. This morning, prayers from this awesome group
are appreciated. Maybe when I wake up, this shutdown will
just be a nightmarish memory. I've got my cozy Earth
blanket and pj's at the ready, Love you all. Thank
you so much, Donna for that. And then Marcy Parlez says,

(01:12:46):
good morning, have a wonderful day, Much love. Robert Clark
says England doesn't have a kidney bank, but it does
have a Liverpool perfect Bomama eight says, poor Harry, if
you can't take the heat, baby girl, stay out of
the kitchen, referring to Harry Sisson, no doubt. Cynthia Shorten says,

(01:13:06):
love you guys, thanks for the laughs. Thank you. MT
says she spent two months doing this I think meaning Candace,
and walked it back last week. This level of gaslighting
is what turned people away from the Dems. I will
not ally with evil. Good for you, she also says,
or he I'm not sure. MT says. Candace says we
should ally with the left, though what is she offering?

(01:13:28):
She's anti Trump and goes after Protestants, not leftists. What
does she offer? And Brian Brumley says, how did the Snowman,
turn yellow, ask the dog. Thank you everybody for that.
All right, I understand from Daisy that you don't like
bringing it in. You are a very stingy hugger. Is

(01:13:49):
that true?

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
I am, I'm a side hugger.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Okay, I don't know what that's Okay, wait listen, Daisy
and I hug enough for you. I promise we hug
enough for probably this entire audience. Truth be told. So
thank you Karen for sticking with me today and for
helping out. You're always so so good, and I know
our audience appreciates it. I definitely do. We really really

(01:14:12):
appreciate it. Daisy and I will be back tomorrow to
answer questions, and then again Scott Jennings will be live
premiered on Friday at this time. Thank you everybody, and
we will see you hopefully in person Daisy and I tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
Thank you guys,