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Today's show breaks down the explosive fallout between Candace Owens and Erika Kirk—from Bari Weiss’s town hall to Dave Rubin, Allie Beth Stuckey, and other major conservatives finally taking sides. We walk through the misinformation, the fan backlash, and the growing pressure from inside the movement as Candace’s claims get debunked in real time.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
They effed up. There's no other way to put it
except that they massively pepped up.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
That clip is just crazy.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
This tone shift is whiplashed for a lot of us
who were like trying to give benefit of the doubt here
and be like, Okay, some of this is click bait.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Good morning everybody, Look who's here. We have Krinne with
us today, and that is because if you were watching yesterday,
then you know that Daisy was having surgery on her
busted up, mangled wrist. And she did have that surgery
and it was a success. And there are like X
ray pictures of all of her new hardware that look

(00:43):
so freaking bad ass. So she did really, really good. Obviously,
she is recovering today and over the weekend and she'll
be back Monday. But today we have Karenne with us,
who's gonna help co host the show today. And you
may notice I'm back in my own I got my
internet back, so everything is sort of on the upswing,

(01:05):
which is great. I was getting so desperate about sorting
out my internet that I was like, I was basically
about ready to get on the phone with Zach Abraham
from Bulwark Capital Management and just say help me figure
out finances to like install personal internet fiber directly to
my house from wherever it comes from, because I can't

(01:25):
take it anymore. And by the way, if you need
Zach's help, you can reach him at Know Your riskpodcast
dot com. You should absolutely do that. He's fantastic. I
was really hoping today, Karin, that we would be able
to talk about something other than that evil hag Candice Owens,
but she keeps doing stuff and so we keep having
to talk about it. And I'm going to try to

(01:48):
keep it fairly brief, but we will cover some of
the truly evil things that she said yesterday, just truly evil.
But we'll kick it off because let's start with some
good Let's start with Erica, who is literally a force
for goodness. I mean, she of course is on this
book tour promoting Charlie's book, and Monday is the day. Okay,

(02:12):
So Monday afternoon is the day that TPUSA plans to
finally address at length and with detail, all of the
ridiculous claims that Candice has been making. I don't know
if Erica will be a part of that live stream.
I hope she is, but she's already starting to debunk
some of it, which we'll get to in a second,

(02:35):
but first we want to play this clip of her
talking to Barry Weiss. There's going to be a town
hall that Barry Weiss hosts on CBS tomorrow night at
eight pm Eastern, and there's been some teaser clips that
have come out from that from that town hall, and
this first one, you know, this is one of those
ones that just rips at your heartstrings because Barry Weiss

(02:56):
was reminding Erica and just asking her how she dealt
with all of those lunatics who celebrated Charlie's death and
just said evil, evil things about it. And here's how
Erica responded.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Alarming things about Charlie's murder was the way that some
people in this country reacted to it, and not just online.
This was kind of this was an idea that you
encountered a lot, and the idea was this They kind
of justified it. They basically said that because Charlie said
or believed things that they believed were controversial or even hateful,
that he somehow had it coming. What do you say

(03:33):
to people who justified his death?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're sick.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
He's a human being.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
You think he deserved that. Tell that to my three
year old daughter. You want to watch and I read
the video of my husband being murdered and laugh and

(04:07):
say he deserves it. There's something very sick in your soul.
And I pray that God saves you.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I pray because that is what is so wrong.

Speaker 6 (04:21):
The internet in this world has dehumanized us.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
If I watched like one more second of that, I'll
start balling. So I know that you cut it right there.
Just yeah, I don't know how people say how unemotional
she is, and she's criticized for smiling because first of
all the whole clip, I thought she seemed like she's
gonna cry, but before the question even like got there,

(04:45):
and the pain is so real, Like it was really
hard not to cry watching that, Like I feel like
I could if you just you can popes me a
little bit, so.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right right? I mean, And that's the thing is that
there's so many people that criticize every single behavior or
you know, facial expression that she has. People have called
her tears fake. I mean, they're literally running down her cheeks.
And it's still not good enough. There's still going to
be just these evil, demonic people who hang on Canvas's

(05:18):
every word that say these horrible things about Eric. I
don't understand it. I don't understand how you can criticize
someone who is clearly so good and righteous. I don't
get it, and who Charlie obviously loved more than anybody
else in the whole world. I mean, if you had
respect for what Charlie did, if you loved Charlie, how

(05:38):
can you not get that.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I just.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
She's the hardest job in the world right now, which
is I can't imagine going on and being a mom
to two babies after something so horribly, so horrible happens,
like my instinct would be to hide in a closet
for several months, and that she isn't doing that and
is being present and continuing his.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Work and raising kids. I literally don't know how I know.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
She is amazing. She's amazing to me, amazing. There was
also the moment which was very direct and pointed that
Barry Wise asked her about Candace named her said, Candace
is the one that's, you know, putting out all these
crazy conspiracies. What is your message to her? I don't

(06:34):
think this could be any clearer, but just in case
it's needed, here's what.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Happened podcast are Candace owns okay. At one time, look
at her face. Charlie's at one time an employee of
Turning Point. She has been one of the main peddlers
of these conspiracies and she is making a huge amount of.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Money on it.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
She is building her business off of these lies. What
do you want to say to her and the other
people that are putting these lies out into the world
right now?

Speaker 5 (07:07):
Stop? That's it, That's all I have to say.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I saved this still from when she was on with
Harris Faulkner because I mean, look at that. I would
not want to be on the receiving end of this.
Stare like me neither. No, Oh my gosh. She she
means business, you guys. She has had it, and I'm glad.

(07:34):
I hate this for her, obviously, but I also am
so glad that she's speaking out because enough is enough,
you know what I mean. It has to be talked about.
She has to say something, and Candae is a royal
bitch for making this have to be the case. But
she's responding in exactly the way that I think that
she needs to.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
And I never wanted her to have to respond either,
which makes me so so sad.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
But she got her mom voice. I don't think she
said too much or anything really, you know, like if
you talk too much, people have something to criticize.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I don't think she did that.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
She said exactly what she needed to, which was to
let people know she's like not in on this, not
for it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Fumblr mom voice on.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Stop I'm going to count to three.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes, she was like, no, we're past the three. We're
not doing the counting anymore. You're stopping or it's bad.
The implication is that it's going.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
To be worse.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yes, but it is and it's time.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
I just can't believe she had to do it, I know.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
So she's also starting, I mean, because she's she's everywhere.
She's promoting Charlie's book and Charlie's business and the legacy
of Charlie and TPUSA as often as she can, which
is her actual job. Because once again people are criticizing
her for doing that. People are actually trying to suggest
that she's self promoting, as if she wrote the book.
I mean, it's the criticism of her is just off

(09:04):
the wall. But she is starting to slowly address some
of the points that Candace has tried to make which
are ridiculous. One of those is that Candace says that
she has, you know, firsthand knowledge, or however she knows it.
She never actually produces any evidence of anything she says,
so it's hard to know where she's getting this information.

(09:26):
But she says, she claims that Charlie sent a message
to I don't know a number of different people the
day before he was assassinated, saying they're gonna kill me tomorrow.
That is apparent. That's what Candace says. Charlie said to
people on a messaging program. I don't even know what

(09:47):
program it was or whatever. But this is an example
of the kind of thing that Erica is starting to address,
as she did with Glenn Beck. And this was yesterday
that she addressed that particular claim.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
We knew that there was always going to be a threat,
but Charlie and I always we promise each other we
would never live in fear, and he would say, if
they're going to get me, they're gonna get me. But
he was not messaging people the day before saying I'm
going to be murdered. They're coming after me, Someone's going
to kill me. He didn't say that, and I had
a cell phone, didn't say that, and she.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Has his cell phone. She said, I mean, can we
just stop? We like, why why are we making this
so much harder? The guy that killed Charlie is in court,
was in court yesterday. Were there other people involved? Perhaps?
Why is the assumption that the FBI isn't looking into that,

(10:43):
or that the investigators, the local law enforcement, the state
law enforcement isn't looking into that. Nobody knows what they're
looking at except for Erica and the people closest to
the case. So all of these accusations like nobody cares,
but Candae, it's bullshit.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
And I think that the real thing, like you said,
is Erica does have the evidence, so she does know.
I think it's so easy, actually to believe that people
think the FBI is not doing a good job, and
that law enforcements not doing.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
A good job.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I mean, I often think that about a million different things,
not just this. So and I see why it's so
easy to fall into a conspiracy because so many things
are a conspiracy, Like, right, how many things have turned
out to be true that were conspiracy theories that people
were completely lost their jobs over and lost monetization on

(11:35):
YouTube and everything. I'm not anti being skeptical of institutions.
You actually should be. I think it's a good thing
to be skeptical of them. But when you have someone
close to the closest that you could possibly be probably
saying I promise this thing is not true, it's hard

(12:00):
to be skeptical of that for me.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Exactly well, of course, because who wants justice more than
the people closest to Charlie, right, I mean, And that's
exactly That's another point that Erica made with Glenn Beck here.
She is about seeking justice.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I want justice from my husband. Anytime we have leads,
anytime we hear anything, we send it to the authorities.
We're not messing around. None of us are involved in
my husband's murder.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
None of us. I can't believe she has to say that,
Like what in the world she has to say, I
didn't do it, Okay, I didn't. I didn't know anybody
or was not involved with anybody that did it. My team,
who loved Charlie, who he loved, had nothing to do
with it. I cannot believe that that is the point
that we have reached, where she has to say that

(12:53):
it's so wrong. It's so wrong on every single level.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
It is so wrong, and it's frustrating because I think
people were saying, you know, Candace said that Erica killed
him or that she's in on it like months ago,
and I was like, that's not really fair because she
didn't really say that.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
She was actually saying the opposite.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
She released videos that said Erica isn't in on it,
and Erica isn't lying, And I think this tone shift
is is whiplash for a lot of us who were
like trying to give the benefit of the doubt here
and be like, Okay, some of this is clickbait. This
is being like misused and misquoted, and nobody is saying
Erica isn't on it. And then Candace like dropped the
hammers like actually I am. I was like, okay, well,

(13:36):
now I feel really stupid for giving you any any
kind of leeway to like talk right, and you just
take it to the full stick stream, And now we
have a widow having to say like, no, I didn't
kill my husband when we so horribly witnessed, like I'm
sure we all saw the video.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
I saw it against my will. I'll never unsign it now.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, and exactly exactly and the message. I mean, we
already played you know, we played Harris Falkner her on
Harris Faukner the other day saying stop. You know that's
where that meme comes from, that picture comes from. You
know you've heard it elsewhere. You're going to hear it
one more time. And it could not be clearer than

(14:19):
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which was stop and again she made it clear on

(16:09):
will Caine's show. Here she is. We're told that.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
If we said stop, they would stop. And we said stop,
and I'll say it again, please stop.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
We'll see if it's listened to. Uh, it's not listened to.
Spoiler alert, it is absolutely not listened to. And in fact,
you guys, this is where this is where I'm getting
a little bit of kind of sick enjoyment out of
what's happening with Candace right now, because yesterday, and I
know I've been saying this all week long, that I

(16:49):
feel a tide turning. I feel a little bit of
a shift in terms of the number of people and
the prominence level, though I know that's subjective of the
people that are coming out finally to say Candace is batshit.
I thought initially that maybe it was just my algorithm

(17:11):
and that was wishful thinking on my part, but I
genuinely am seeing and feeling a tide shift, and it
was not. It could not have been made more clear
than from Candace herself, who I got the sense from
some of the clips from her show yesterday that she
is starting to spiral and I am here for that

(17:36):
and you're seeing it too, right, No, for.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Sure, I mean I have a big group text with
all my friends that are obsessed, and we watch way
too many podcasts, and we have a few people who
have been more on the team Candace, more open to
what she's seeing.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
And that all fell apart.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I would say yesterday, before yesterday's show, everybody is like, no,
you know, somebody texted like her reply to uh Ali
Bethstucky like is this the line?

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like are you?

Speaker 3 (18:06):
And I was like, eh, I don't know, and then
everybody just started trickling and being like okay, no, I'm
not happy.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
The line was cross like Erica was the one.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
She said that she'd stop if Erica told her to
stop or if ericam find it was not fine. That's
a very lenient line, but it is a line, and
it's crossed. And like even for the most generous like
open to Candice, they're not Candace cult people, but most
open to hearing what she had to say, we're like, yeah,

(18:41):
that's it's I can't defend it.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
I won't defend it.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
And I'm pretty mad because I did defend her for
so long and now she making me.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Look dumb exactly exactly, and so I do I do
since I mean, you know, what you said is anecdotal,
but I would I would venture to guess that's happening
with a lot of different chat groups and text threads
that people have with one another. I'm telling you, I'm
seeing a shift and it's small but significant. And I
can tell because Candice was so mad yesterday, so mad,

(19:14):
and she was the first to admit it when she
did her little promo teaser for her show. She even
says that she is in a mood and it's because
of all the criticism that she is starting to face,
which is long overdue. But here is her teaser. Okay,
so full disclosure.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I'm in a bad mood today.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
I have a little bit of an attitude, and I'm
just getting so tired of these influencers pretending.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
That this is all organic.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
It's like the most obvious push, especially people who try
to do what the name of the Bible. I just
this whole alley snucky thing, like holding the Bible when
you're like actually just being a mean girl, but trying
to justify it with scripture.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
It just all needs to end.

Speaker 7 (19:54):
And Erica Barry Weiss on stage with like the superloaded
question and about Cannie being a liar, Okay, I'm just
not a good mood today, so I'm just going.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
To put that out there.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Yeah, I am not caring about anybody's feelings today, and
yeah you can join us blood.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I mean, I just take it straight from the horse's mouth.
She is feeling the heat.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
I'm just going to start every day with like, just
I'm in a bad mood, so I'm not ready. That's
what I just sent to my coworkers so they know,
just don't even deal with me.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
And we'll get to the Ali Stucky stuff too, because
that she I mean, you could really see the mean
girl come out when it came to Ali Bestucky, which
we'll get to. But so that was the teaser for
her show. Then of course her show happened and she
was pure evil. Like I just, she is just dripping
in rage, and it is it's deserved. I mean everything,

(20:56):
every feeling of discomfort that she was feeling during her
show last night, it's just it's so long overdue. So
now she is trying. She actually addressed somebody that sent
her a supersticker who called her out basically saying, you know,
you said you would stop when Erica asked you to stop,
So are you gonna stop. And now the goalpost has

(21:19):
been moved. Okay, here's how Candace is moving the goalpost now.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
The Butterfly writes Cannis, you mentioned several times that if
Erica asked you to stop, you would, in fact stop.
Will you honor her request? Please stand by your word
and honor what Charlie left behind. Prayers to you. I
was very clear here, Erica asked me to stop lying,
and I will immediately abide by that request. You know,

(21:46):
Candas is lying. What do you want to say? Please stop?
Please stop lying. I understand, I comprehend. What I don't
comprehend is what I've lied about. Have I made errors
along the way, yes, But as soon as she tells
me what it is I've lied about, I will cease
lying immediately.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
What a freaking joke. It had nothing to do. I mean, yes,
The way that Barry Weiss framed that question was, what
do you have to what's your message to Candace Owens
about all of her lies? But so and so that's
what Candace is grasping onto. But forget the fact that
she said to Harris Faulkner, stop what you're doing. Forget

(22:27):
the fact that she said stop what you're doing. When
she was on with Will Caine, Candace can't stop candasing. Okay,
so she's now moving the goalpost and pretending, well, she
asked me to stop lying, and I've never lied. I
don't know what I've lied about. Oh my god, what
a freaking joke.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
And I think this is like a big discussion with
my friend group. It's like, I feel like she might
really believe whatever she's saying.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
And it's not just all clickbait like money stuff. I
think there's a lot of that because her marketing is crazy,
like so good actually, like just from a marketing perspective,
it is like what you would tell someone if you
wanted their stuff to go viral, and that person had
no pushback at all. It just followed like a blue
print of.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
The most clickbait crazy stuff that most people would see
us and be like, I think that's a little embarrassing
to say, and I'm not going to do it. Candice
does that, so I do. I think personally there's quite
a bit of a clickit of money in it because
of how she markets. But I have friends also who
are like I do, don't think it's about money. She

(23:36):
doesn't need money. I think she is like in too
deep on her own thoughts, like she's fun this web
that she can't get out of anymore, and like she
really believes it. And I and last night's specifically are
the first ones where I'm like, I'm not sure any more.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
No, I think it right, because I mean I think
there is you know, I think there's definitely an element
of This isn't all about money, because she has so
much of that already. What it is about, though, is
her own narcissism, her own need for all of the attention.
And you know, we obviously on this show contribute to it.
We're contributing to her giant inflated ego. But that's also

(24:21):
the reason that we call it out, because she cannot
just continue to grow her cult following unchecked. I mean,
there has to be people that are on the opposite
side that are calling it out for what it is.
And that's where I do feel that tide shifting a
little bit, thank God, because more prominent folks, I mean,

(24:42):
we're not prominent, and so prominent folks need to come
out and address it and not dance around it. Like
I mean, I'm sorry, but the Daily Wired people are
just they're saying all the things without naming her. They're
just dancing around because they want to preserve their friendship. Fine,
preserve the frenchhip, but also call it out. I mean
you can. Nobody's telling you to stop being friends, but like,

(25:06):
grow a ball, grow some balls and just say what
you're actually thinking instead of dancing around it because you're
afraid of Candace. No one should be afraid of this bitch.
I'm sorry, but she no one should be afraid of her.
And the next clip you're about to see from her show,
if you've ever seen the movie Miss Congeniality, she is
quoting from it and positioning Erica kirk as like a

(25:29):
pageant queen and mocking her for it. Okay, it is
just next level mean girl, and this is how you
can tell again. I think this is evidence of Candace
doing some real crashing out, like she is spiraling here.
She is. It's just I trust my team. My team

(25:50):
is amazing.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
And my favorite date is April twenty fourth, because it's
not too hot and it's not too cold and all
you need is a light jacket. Like it feels it
feels fake. I'm on CBS stage with pre puck up
questions and Barry Weiss and I obviously have Ahearst's answer,
normal passion, not this.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Like chat GBT feeling. That's what it is.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
It feels like we're so rich you don't have the
right to think. Okay, we are rich enough to remove that,
so stop thinking. The elites are here. It feels elite.
That's why I hate this. It feels elite. Even getting
questions ahead to me preparing answers feels faking gay.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
That is really really interesting. So so she is calling
out the elites without recognizing the fact that she is
exactly that. I mean, that is pure projection.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, that that clip is just crazy. And I think
one thing is like Erica will get will be criticized,
especially in the role that she is in as CEO
of Turning Points. No leader of an organization that big
and that powerful and that effective can be without criticism.

(27:07):
So it's not like anyone is saying to her that
Erica cannot be criticized. We kind of gave a very
specific list of what Erica can't be criticized on, and
then she hit all of those things that nobody wanted,
Like if there was a real credible accusation that she's
like not funding chapters properly or not giving students resources,

(27:31):
and there's some corruption or.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Something, you know, like that kind of stuff. Totally normal.
She's the CDEO of an organization.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
All of these attacks are so personal, and I think everybody,
not well everybody that I know and talk to, had
a list of like things you just don't go for,
especially right.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Now, exactly well, and she's like check.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Check, just like she just hit them all, Like I
am going to do every all of those that are
going to outrage the most amount of peaceeople in thirty seconds,
going to hit them all.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, she did. And in that clip that we just played,
there's this moment where she criticizes Erica for having scripted
questions or knowing the questions in advance from CBS from
Barry Weiss and then saying, you know, that's not something
that she would ever ever do. She never would ever
ever prepare or ask for questions in advance or dare

(28:27):
to tell an interviewer what not to cover. In fact,
she goes into detail about that right here.

Speaker 7 (28:33):
I obviously know I'm gonna get asked this, so I'm
going to do like I don't even like and this
is a fact you can ask anybody who's ever interviewed me.
I never ask for questions ahead of time. I don't
want to know. I don't want to know the direction
it's going into, don't. I never give them anything. I
never say we can't talk about this. That thing's off record,
because even getting questions ahead to me preparing answer.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
You heard her say, I don't ever tell an interviewer
what they can and can't ask. That is a she said.
Accept that. Just several weeks ago, she talked about interviewing
with CNN and telling them in writing multiple times that
she wanted no questions about Charlie. So what I mean

(29:16):
this is just this is like so easy, you know
what I mean. Like she's gotten to the point where
she can't keep up with her own lies, and so
she's getting caught out in these very like easy to
avoid mistakes if you're telling the truth. But this is Candice.
So this is what happens, and I am here for it.
I'm sorry, but that is the stuff that I'm just like, Oh,

(29:37):
you're caught, you're caught. Now you fed up, and we're
about to expose it. And so is everybody else. I
love it. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna lie about it.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
So unfair because Eric, Okay, Erica rehearsed it. I do
think Erica scripts responses and rehearses what she's going to say.
I know I'm a huge crier, like if if you
even poke me, like if you're talking about something remotely emotional,
I can sob pretty much on demand, and it's to.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
A point that I can't stop it.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
So if I was ever in a position where I
had to talk about something that would make me sad,
I would have to script it for sure, and hope
that I could make it through the script. And I
think anyone watching that does see that's like kind of
how you.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Have to handle when you're grieving.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
If you don't want to.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Be a sobbing disaster, if you're trying to get through
a sentence, like, of course you script what you're going
to say. It's the only way to get through it.
And that's just right. That's why people can't stand this.
It's such an unfair thing to say.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, and it seems as though you know, with the
Glee that Candice has been doing her investigation, I mean,
she seems to be the exact opposite, where she has
no emotion about Charlie's death whatsoever. She pretends to by saying,
I'm doing this investigation for him. I'm the only one
that hasn't betrayed him. I'm the only one that cares

(31:00):
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Speaker 8 (32:31):
On to.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
The text to Ali. So this is when some serious
mean girl stuff came out. I don't actually know what
Ali had posted on her Instagram, but she'd posted something
related to all of this that made that really triggered
Candace hard and so she wrote this reply on Alibethstucky's

(32:57):
Instagram post that was so mean girl, you guys, and
so freaking obvious when it comes to her own anti Semitism,
like she brings Jewishness into this out of freaking nowhere.
So here's what she said. Please stop acting like you
were super close to Charlie. Yes, you spoke at events
and were colleagues and allies in this movement. But you're

(33:19):
acting like you were super close with him, and it's
annoying me. I'm sorry, somebody's trying to call me. Let
me just stop that right now. I didn't know my
mac would like make sounds. You're acting like you were
super close with him, and it's annoying me. You didn't
know about the Catholic thing because you never had that
sort of a personal friendship with him. We've all been
friendly over the years, as we've all appreciated you as

(33:41):
a hard worker and a mother to children. That aside, Yes,
you are very clearly a part of a psychological operation,
as you are quite sinisterly trying to use Bible verses
to tell people to ignore their intuition. I might add
the fact that in this very post you are tossing
around a literal psychological term to try to pathologize people

(34:03):
who simply don't agree that thirty out six bullets are
magically stopped by human necks. The reality, Ali, is that
you have been open about the fact that you are
part Jewish, and you are being exceedingly tribal in this situation.
The best proof for that tribalism is that, even when
Josh Hammer told one of the most disgusting lies in

(34:26):
this entire saga. And I don't even know what that means,
because she was the one that was lying about Josh Hammer,
you are moved to do a video defending his character
rather than calling a spade a spade. You don't care
about truth, You care about defending what you perceive to
be your side. You said Josh Hammer was a good
person after he lied about Charlie's final forty eight hours.

(34:47):
That is naked tribalism for which you should be ashamed yourself.
There are no Bible versus needed for people to recognize
that someone shamelessly lying about a man's thoughts and concerns
before he died is nothing short of monstrous. And there
is no friend to Charlie that wouldn't have the moral
clarity to at least call out such a deranged misrepresentation

(35:08):
of the very real anxiety Charlie was going through in
those final months that just sort of maybe just all
of that came out of almost nowhere. It was so unhinged,
And so Ali Beth responded, and here's what she said.
She said. Candice commented, on my Instagram post saying I

(35:30):
only disagree with her baselessly implicating Charlie's friends in his
murder because my great grandfather, whom I never met, was Jewish. Okay, Also,
apparently she was Charlie's only to true friend. I have
been extremely explicitly clear that Charlie and I had a
strong friendship that was completely professional. I'm grateful to be

(35:53):
one of the many that he shared stages in wisdom
with over the years. Charlie's inner circle is friends, coworkers,
his wife are the only ones who loved and knew
him best, and they are the ones that we can
trust to seek true justice on their behalf, which was
a perfect response. And then Tyler Boyer, who of course

(36:14):
the COO of tpusa's action. He responded to cat to
ali Bestuggy did you see this where he wrote, Okay,
oh my god, You're gonna love this. So he responded saying,
you talked to Charlie far more than Candace did. Lol.

(36:34):
That had to absolutely enrage Candace, which it did. So
what did she do? She resorted to making up crazy
crap about him based on nothing, no evidence, and said
you and your wife are swingers. Tyler, and I'm just like,
oh my god, that made even me respond. I was like,

(36:56):
we can all see you unraveling at this point. I mean,
that is why you're extra Anoyd today. You're accusing Ali
Beth of tribalism due to a distant relative. That is
peak psycho And people are starting to see you like
we're getting it now. Not just us because we've gotten
it for the past three months, but more people are
starting to get it. And I am super, super glad

(37:18):
about that. And by the way, this didn't used to
be how Candice treated Erica. When you know, right after
Charlie's murder, she gave Erica so much grace. That's why
she said Erica was the one that can get me
to stop. And so I saw a montage put together.
I think this was by Nathan Livingstone of all of

(37:38):
the things that she said about Erica before she lost
her ever loving mind. Here is the montage.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
On a Charlie Kirk show last week, Andrew said someone
powerful called Erica and asked how much she knows and
she said, I know everything. I think she knows everything.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
She's his wife. What is a wife?

Speaker 7 (37:56):
Everything she said on stage yesterday a confidant. Every secret
that know the world is not meant to.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Know about Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 7 (38:03):
She knows about Charlie Kirk, who was stressing him out.
Why did you lay your head next to your wife
or your husband? My husband knows everything there is to
know about me, and so yeah, there's no question that
she knows everything. This is a faithful couple. This is
a woman who consulted a priest and prayed when she
felt that somebody had put a hex on her husband.

(38:24):
And I just think everyone is being a little unfair
by trying to assign so much ill will towards someone
who hasn't done anything to warrant That does not feel
appropriate to me. I haven't seen any reason to do that.
What lie has Erica told that. I'm supposed to be
focused on the amount of pressure that is on her

(38:46):
right now. She has not come out and said anything
to me that makes her suspicious. I would have been
the first person if I felt that anything was there,
I would have said something, truly. But I know that
Charlie was very happy with Erica, and I know that
Erica was a reason she was, you know, pushing Charlie
as women do to really think through his ideas and

(39:07):
think through what it was that he believed in one
way or the other.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
She made him happy.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
And I just want you guys to know that. And
so when you're putting stuff out there, just imagine that
you're in her shoes. Imagine the size and the scale
of that company, and imagine that on top of everything,
you've got people that are digging into every layer of
your life and necessarily not necessarily getting everything right. And
I just really just feels to me like it's unfair.
She's gonna fight, She's gonna fight, and she is going
to fight on the good side because every woman would

(39:31):
know what her husband's going through. So I can't even
imagine what it feels like experiencing this tragedy, having to
come to terms with this tragedy. And it's a no
from me.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
That's where we are now. I mean, what a transformation,
you know, And that's yeah, And that's like such this
particular line of attack against Erica is such a mistake
for me.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
And I know even on this show, like some of
our people were like, how could you defend her about Erica?
Was like she she is always been nice about Erica.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
So I think it's like she was, yeah, as we
just saw.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
At that time, like that was real. She was nice
to Erica, and I think she built up that relationship
with her viewers about having this kindness towards Erica, and
now to go back on that, I think it's a
deserves to her own show because she built that up
and now she's going back on it.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
In it, anybody with greens can everybody can see. I mean,
I would think obviously she's got cult followers who will
just absorb anything she says without questioning it. But I
would think that, you know, if somebody's sending her a
supersticker one of her own audience members are like, can
you please keep your word? Like you literally said you

(40:45):
would stop if she asked you. She's asked you, and
now she's like, well, she asked me to stop lying,
and now she's going to have to tell me what
I'm lying about. Oh my god. I mean, it is
out of control, you guys, out of control. And it
is interesting actually, because we found out yesterday that the
entire reason that Charlie even new Candice is because of

(41:11):
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want to know what the reason is for Candace to

(42:45):
even be a thing right now, it's because of a jew.
And that jew's name is Dave Rubin.

Speaker 9 (42:52):
No pleasure in talking about her because we were very,
very good friends. I was at her wedding where I
actually sat next to Charlie and Erica Kirk. They weren't
even married at the time. That was the first time
I met Erica, but I sat next to Charlie and
met Erica there for the first time. I gave Candace
her first big break. She was a little YouTuber at
eight nine years ago. We used to do something called
YouTube Week where I would take five different YouTubers from
different disciplines. One would be in politics, one would be

(43:13):
in gaming, one might be in music or something, and
just give them a shot. And she was one of
the ones that we plucked out when she had like
twenty thousand subscribers. So we have a long, long history.
So I take no pleasure in what has happened with her,
but I do agree with your assessment. She has gone
so far down the rabbit holes where now she gets
disproven so often that it's not really worth wasting much
time on her.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
It's sad.

Speaker 9 (43:32):
I would say, as a friend, or at least a
former friend, and I would say, it's not good that
so many people are following her now those things. I
think that exists in a certain spot.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, so he tweeted after that, Yes, what I said
on the show today was true. I introduced Candace to
Charlie for the first time at the Breakers in Palm
Beach in twenty seventeen. The two of them spent ten
minutes chatting, and then she walked back to me and
told me she just took a job with TPUSA. If
you would have told me then that this is where
we would have ended up in twenty twenty five, there's

(44:02):
no way in the world I would have believed you,
And in some way I don't even believe it right now,
which I totally get because things are gray, right, I mean,
things have gone completely off the deep end.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
I didn't know that either, And I think it speaks
volumes of the relationship that Charlie and Agandas did have
at one point that they talked for ten minutes and
he was like, you're hired.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Because that's who she was then. And I don't think
it feels the same in this moment. And I hope
she does get back to that maybe, But I don't
know where you go from here. The spiral is so
so deep, Like I don't know if you know, she
needs like a rehab stint or something.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
To like, because yeah, I don't know, I do.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
I'm not sure. I don't. I don't know what where
it goes.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, I don't either, I mean because I don't. She's
got way too much of an ego to admit at
any point that she has endangered the trial, that she
has potentially damaged or tainted a jury pool that she
may I mean, what she is doing could result in
the killer getting you know, maybe not the death penalty,

(45:19):
which he should absolutely get. So the damage isn't just
you know, like mean spirited gossip. It's real, like it
really could impact the outcome of the entire trial, and
she continued. She even said yesterday she doesn't believe Tyler
pulled the trigger. There is so much evidence that says
that he did. I mean, the question remains. I think

(45:42):
who else may have known in advanced who else was involved,
Those questions are legit, but as to who who actually
did the killing, I mean, I please, please just stop.
As Erica would say, interesting juicy gossip though about Candace,
which I didn't even realize. I think I knew it

(46:03):
and then forgot it. But way back in the day,
she wrote for a blog called I Think Degree one
eighty if I'm not mistaken, And so people are digging
up some of her old columns, some of the old
pieces that she wrote, and the two titles. There were
two titles that I saw floating around yesterday that I
thought were very, very interesting. The first saying, I think

(46:26):
affairs are romantic. She wrote an entire column about affairs
being romantic, and I was like, okay, George, there's your
permission to go have gay relations with whoever it is
that you want. But then my favorite one that she
wrote back in the day, this is like almost like
you can't even believe it. This was in twenty sixteen.

(46:46):
She wrote, a lot of straight women are settling down
with gay men. Here's why. And I just can't even
hardly believe it. But it's real, you guys, It's real, appropriate,
very prescient. You might say, all right, we got to
move on to Tucker Tucker. I think this was also

(47:07):
part of the theovone podcast that we talked about yesterday.
But here's something that what Tucker does a lot of
the time I've noticed is that he'll excuse behavior and
then say or say he doesn't know anything or doesn't
know what words mean, and then we'll also claim that behavior.
And here's an example. So he's talking about the whole

(47:28):
Candace stuff, and he's making a contrast between just a
podcaster and journalism. And it's just interesting how he does it.
Take a listen to this.

Speaker 11 (47:41):
What Cannis is saying is clearly causing a lot of turmoil.
Is it true or not? I can't assess it. I'm
not the FBI. I'm a freaking podcaster. I'm a freaking
podcast or I'm a freaking pod cast. By the way,
so is can I We're doing this investigation because I
spent my whole life doing non criminal investigation called journalism,
called journalism.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
God, So I mean, really, if he's he's basically saying,
you can't just be a podcaster and do all this investigating,
but that's exactly what Cannas is, and he's using that
as a way to excuse her sometimes somehow at the
same time, he makes no sense ever, like he has

(48:24):
also gone completely off the deep end.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, I get I feel like he doesn't want to
weigh in, which is fine.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I don't think everyone has to a way in, But
it is funny that he thinks the people most capable
of investigations would be like journalists, right when the reason
podcasters even exist are even successful, Really, I think is
a failure of journalism. So many people were so sick
of the institution, just these lying political agents who are

(48:56):
not capable of investigations, so they started talking on their own.
Now podcasters. So like to discredit podcasters over journalists. I
think people favor podcasters now and.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
For sure, without question, absolutely absolutely right. So, and you know,
we've been waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting because
we adore Megan Kelly. We've been waiting for her to
way in and man, has she been getting slammed. For
the past couple days. She's been putting out her regular
shows without acknowledging whatsoever that this is basically the top

(49:31):
story that's happening right now and that everyone is talking
about it. She just has been ignoring it. Well. Finally,
yesterday she implied that a response, an official response, an
official way in from her, is coming.

Speaker 12 (49:46):
Here's what she said, what happened, something extraordinary happened yesterday
And just FYI, I am going to have more to
say very soon on what's happening between Erica kirkan turning
point on the one hand and Canvas on the other,
thank god today, but very soon. And I have my
reasons for that.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
That's interesting. I don't know what those reasons are, but
I suspect we're going to hear them shortly and I
cannot wait. I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, I don't know where it's going. I'll tune in
good marketing Vacan.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
She's learned that from Canvas, like that's an epic teas right,
that is an epic tease. But I'm just so glad
because I do sense that when she said there was
something extraordinary that happened yesterday she was referring because I
heard the whole clip. She was referring to that moment
that Erica on the Harris Faulkner Show said stop, and

(50:39):
that was a moment, and that was the moment that
she was referring to. So because she's because of the
way that she framed it, my sense is that she's
going to say things that I agree with. I don't
know for sure, obviously, but I hope we see. Maybe
that'll be today, maybe she's waiting until after the TPUSA
live stream on Monday. I don't know, but at least

(51:00):
something is coming from Meghan, which I'm very very glad
about because she's you know, she's one of the most
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I think it's important. I think it's important that she
weigh in because she weighs in on everything else that's
like actually her job, and so this is an important
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a Concerned women dot org slash chicks. So, the accused
murderer of Charlie Kirk Tyler Robinson appeared in court yesterday

(52:27):
and people are kind of mad about how smiley and
smug and smirky he looked and man did he ever
there was video. A lot of the news stations were
showing this video of him chatting with his attorneys, just
happy as a clam, I mean, just looking like joking around.
I mean, this is not helping him. I don't think

(52:50):
at all to look like everything is just fun in games.
But this is what he looked like in the courtroom yesterday.
And it was a good thing because there's so many
people that have gone so far down the candy cult
rabbit hole that they don't even believe he exists. I've
actually heard that that some people are like, I don't
even think Tyler Robinson is a real person. Like that's crazy,

(53:13):
you guys, fully and completely crazy. Okay, we're ready to
talk about some other stuff. Yeah, go ahead. What were
you going to say? You can only imagine what.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
I just he's smiling because he's medicated. I assume they're
finally treating all of the mental illnesses he has because
he's in jail.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
But that's fair. I didn't like fair, see it anyway,
No nobody did. And we'll see. You know, the worst
thing about this entire trial is going to be just
how long it freaking takes to actually start it. Yeah,
that's that's going to be the most frustrating thing. All right,
moving on, there was a very very interesting hearing that

(53:54):
took place on Capitol Hill yesterday and Christy Nome came
to testify to one of the Congressional committees, and the
Democrats that were grilling her man it did not go
well for them, did not go well for them at all.
So there was first we're going to show you a
clip of Benny's Is it Benny Thompson? I think it's
Benny Thompson, Representative Benny Thompson who positioned the recent shooting

(54:16):
of those two DC National Guards guardsmen where the one
died the other one I believe is still in critical condition.
He positioned that as an unfortunate accident.

Speaker 13 (54:29):
Uh madam, Secretary of you and the gentleman from ct
CTC reference the unfortunate accident that occurred with the National guardsman.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Ko, you think that was an unfortunate accident.

Speaker 13 (54:46):
I mean it's a territ Wait wait, look, I'll get
it straight and then.

Speaker 14 (54:50):
You can shot our National guardsman in the head.

Speaker 13 (54:52):
Looks Sam, will you direct witness to allow me to
ask my question?

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Allow him to ask his question? You guys, oh, unfortunate accident.
What's wrong with these idiots?

Speaker 2 (55:11):
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
They refuse to confront violence at all, and I don't
know what. She corrected him in real time, and he's like, oh,
you didn't let me finish.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
What was there to add to an unfortunate accident? Were
you going to say? I mean, I'm sorry, terrorist attack?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
What was where are you going? I think you need
to be corrected.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Oh my god, I mean that was so telling about
what we have been saying for months about the Democrats,
how they are constantly in defense of criminals, of illegals,
of whoever the bad guy is, that is who they
protect with their words exactly as he positioned it. They diminish,
they minimize, they rationalize, and that was a perfect example

(55:56):
of that. And then, of course the reason for my
name today Monica mcguiver, she was also in this committee hearing,
and she called the Department of Homeland Security the greatest
threat to Homeland security.

Speaker 15 (56:12):
Greatest threat to the homeland right now is a Department
of Homeland Security that the American people no longer trust,
a department actively undermined by its own secretary. This is
on you, secretary known.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
What you know.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
What I would just love right now is if we
just said you're right, people don't trust the Department of
Publand Security.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I think we should abolish it. And they would go
flip out and be like, you cannot do that. We
love it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
It would be like the USAID thing, like all over again. Yeah,
this is they love the government. This is all political.
They think they're going to fundraise off of this. The
second they criticize these agencies. But if you even thought
of firing somebody who worked there, mm hmm, they lose
their minds.

Speaker 13 (57:02):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
They call it bluff, like I'm fine, let's get rid
of the IHS. You're right, no one trusts. It seems risky.
Let's abolish it. That what you have to say about it.
All of a sudden, they would be Christy Nome's like
biggest supporter.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Yep, exactly. I mean, it's all such a game. It's
all such just political grossness. And I know this is
off topic and we'll get back to this hearing in
just a second, but I wanted to make sure that
I mentioned that Kilmar Abrego Garcia has been released by
some liberal idiot judge, so FYI. That's also happened, and

(57:37):
that is thanks to Democrats as usual. But Christinome did
have her moment to address Congress, and man, did she
ever let them.

Speaker 14 (57:47):
Have it to see the defense of individuals who break
our laws. We are a nation of laws. If we
are not a nation of laws, we are no nation
at all. And that is what we are doing every
day is following. Thus, if you guys don't like the law,
go change it. That's your you don't complain. I was
raised by a dad who said, we don't complain about things.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
We fix them.

Speaker 14 (58:05):
We'll go fix them. If you don't like the law,
quit belly ache and quit hitting and attacking our ice officers.
Quit going out and protesting and screaming vile things at them.
Quit calling them names. We wouldn't let our children do that.
Go do something that actually matters by having an honest
debate and changing the law.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
That's your jobs.

Speaker 14 (58:21):
You all should be fired.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
In my viewpoint, that was awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
I love it, and I think she looks so pretty.
I know she gets so criticized, and we have a
don't f with your face policy on the show, but
sometimes I watch her and it makes me want to
f with my face a little bit.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Don't do it, grinn, I.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Think she looks so good.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Don't do it. Do not do it. You don't need it.
You're totally gorgeous. Oh my god, do not with your
beautiful face.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
She looks like a little Barbie so she I mean,
but like.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
In person, in person, you're going to see all the
fakery and you don't want that. You don't. Don't do it,
don't don't. Yeah, I mean she did look amazing. I
will say that, but still I don't think you should
have with your face. So one of our favorite I mean,
I have to call him a character because I don't

(59:15):
believe he's a real human like Shri Sandakar whatever his
name is, that weird Michigan representative who is a muppet.
I think he's an actual, like human muppet somehow. I
don't know where he comes from or how that happens,
but that mfort is not real. Okay, Like that's that.

(59:36):
He just does not seem real to me. And now
we've discovered that he micro blades. You guys, listen, I
I do that because I have terrible brows. But he's
a guy. He's like an Indian guy, Like why would
you anyway? We have evidence of that to show you,
but first we're going to show you the back and
forth between him and Christinome. He was trying to suggest

(59:58):
that she resign, and she was like.

Speaker 7 (01:00:02):
No, your inability to truthfully carry out your duties of
Secretary of Homeland Security. If you're not fired, will you resign?

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Sir?

Speaker 14 (01:00:11):
I will consider you're asking me to resign as an
endorsement of my work.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Thank you very much, so good, perfect response.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
It was a perfect response. And of course, anytime that
we ever talk about Shri in our group chat. You know,
Spencer is our Indian correspondent, and he loves any time
that there is a story about Shri because he immediately
sends us these voice memos making fun of the accent,
and so sent nails it every time. So we have

(01:00:43):
his latest. He doesn't know that I'm playing this, but
we have his latest and I've put it like underneath,
basically a photo up close of Shri and his eyebrows.
Please enjoy.

Speaker 16 (01:00:56):
No, will you resign for doing your job? Or will
I have to shave my eyebrows into a different shape
to point you the way out of this hearing?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Okay, give enough.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
You can't even I can't even visualize Spencer's face anymore
without hearing that voice. I can't. I can't do it now.
There was a moment during that hearing you guys. I
don't remember which of the representatives did this, but they
decided to try to do this gotcha with Christinome by
by promoting this ridiculous argument that we are deporting US citizens,

(01:01:45):
which is nonsense. And the way that they wanted to
prove it was that they showed their little laptop and
they were zooming in one of these apparent citizens that
was deported. They like had him ready to go, ready
to talk to Christinome. Okay, So it turns out it
was so dramatic and ridiculous, and it turns out that

(01:02:06):
the person that they used was a self depoor tee.
He was a Green card holder, and then he also
had a drug charge, a felony drug charge, so he
was not actually a citizen and he self deported. So
I'm sorry, but you don't get to self deport and
then be all like what Christinome deported me. I mean,

(01:02:29):
come on, Democrats are so stupid. They don't realize that
we're going to catch them in these ridiculous games, and
we always do.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
I I can't believe that more staffers, the Democrat staffers
have really been failing lately. We've got like Jasmin Crockett
with the wrong Jeffrey Epstein in this one. Mm hmm,
they need an American citizen. I remember when I worked
for Congress, this was like your worst fear is arming
your member with bad information before hearing. Like that's what

(01:02:59):
definitely got you all that fired. It's still like I
still have anxious dreams about it. So I don't know
how these these kids are still getting away with this
when it's like they're very easily disproven, like you didn't
fact check at all.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I mean, this was such an easy Yeah, they they
effed up, Like there's no other way to put it
except that they massively effed up. So because there are
crazy people who do you know, they're super anti Ice,
they're super anti Christinome, they're anti all of they just

(01:03:37):
want all the illegal criminals to stay. There were lots
and lots of protesters ready to you know, confront Christinome
as she walked out of the hearing. And the biggest
takeaway of that, because you know, they're yelling at her,
you're the SS, you're the Gestapo, You're you should be ashamed.
How do you sleep at night? All the things right,
and so the takeaway though for me was watch them

(01:04:00):
do that as there is a woman next to Christinome
holding an infant and they are surrounding them and screaming
at them without any regard for how terrifying that must
be to the child. And this is the like, this
is part of the humanity. I think that's been lost

(01:04:20):
by people and the left. I mean, they exemplify this.
This is what it looked like. I'm sorry, but that's

(01:04:51):
messed up. That is messed up.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
It's some of that crowd now like concerns me so much.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
We've had multiple assassination attempts on our president.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Charlie Kirk was murdered.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Like, I hope everyone in that room that's screaming inappropriately
was so well vetted, because it's terrifying. How close that's
our department, like our secret cabinet secretary. It's like this
close to all of those crazy people, and I like
sometimes it freaks me out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I don't know if I'm just paranoid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Now, but yeah, no, I mean I it. I just
I don't know how you. I don't know how to
rewind all of this. I don't know how to put
that toothpaste back in the tube. Like we're so lost
and I just I don't know how you recover from it.
I really don't it really, I mean, it really worries

(01:05:45):
me anyway. I had to be like all doom and
gloom about it. But I do feel kind of doom
and gloom about it because we are seeing some just
some really horrible, horrible lack of humanity. There's no other
way for me to just to describe it. Nicki Minaj,
you know, she's become very much a supporter of Trump,

(01:06:05):
it seems lately, and she is not a supporter of
Gavin Newsom. I think that she has just discovered the
best way to refer to Gavin's followers in this next
presidential election, because you know, he'll be running, you guys.
I mean, I think there's no question about it. He
will be running. And so what she calls them is
the gave knots. And I love this. I think this

(01:06:27):
is absolutely perfect. She's saying, Vance obviously is greater than
the gave Knots, and I feel like that is perfect.
I love it. I love it. I'm going to use it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
I love her. I'm going to use it too.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Her tweets are on fire lately, and I you know,
I'm ready to put her on the ticket whenever she
whenever she's ready to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Shut up in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Yeah, it's gonna be good stuff. So speaking of Gavin,
you know how he's got that that Press office that
did all the like Gavin tweets that were, you know,
trying to make fun of Trump's tweets that whoever runs
that account continues to just sort of step all over
themselves in a really bad way. And they went after
Elon yesterday. So they posted a video of Gavin Newsom

(01:07:11):
like promoting his own record on being pro trans and
like really seeing trans people and all this nonsense, and
they said they made a dig at Elon because of
course Elon's son is a trans girl now and they're estranged,
and that's one of Elon's it's one of the reasons

(01:07:31):
that led him down the path that he went on
when it comes to wokeness and being so outspoken against it,
because that hive mind, that mind virus of trans infected
his own son and he has you know, obviously massive
angst about that. And so the Press Office decided to

(01:07:52):
use that against him, saying, you know, they posted Gavin's
video and then they said we're sorry your daughter hates you,
Elon On, which was such a bitch thing to say,
and Elon responded and said, I assume you're referring to
my son, Xavier, who has a tragic mental illness caused
by the evil woke mind virus you push on vulnerable children.

(01:08:15):
I love Xavier very much, and I hope he recovers.
My daughters are Azure, Exa who goes by Why, and Arcadia,
and they do indeed love me very much. I'm so
glad that he responded that way. Right, weird kid names notwithstanding,
but whatever I know.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
It also needs to stick with their weird gay means
and not exact personally.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, weird weird names.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
That was just so like unnecessarily shitty, you know what
I mean. But that's Democrats, that's Gavin and his team. Okay,
So yesterday I was hoping to get to this Jessica
Simpson video, you guys. She I mean, we've already featured
her on our Don't f with Your Face segment, but
now she's back on tour, I guess, or maybe she's

(01:09:05):
just doing something in Vegas. I'm not sure. She's not
the same performer as she used to be. Okay, I'm
I'm sorry if you're a Jessica Simpson music fan. But
this is what she looks and sounds like now when
she performs.

Speaker 17 (01:09:27):
Jonas Fritz will see I'm the sish.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I need.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Mmmmm, No, what a bigger though.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
I used to love that song when I was like
eight years old. Oh so good.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
I forget how young you are you guys. Yesterday I
discovered that I am a year older than Corinne's mom.
Could I say, I mean, could I feel any older?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I can't, I cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
You discovered that in the context of me saying how
young she is?

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Okay, fair, but still like that was just like, oh
my god, I'm a year older than Corin's mom. What
like that? That was like.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
That mom was like a teen mom. She turned twenty
a month after I was born. But I always joke
about her being a teen mom. She she loves that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Well, yeah I did. I just did not know that.
And so, by the way, our group is filled with
prayer warriors, and Karin's mom is battling cancer, and so
if you could just like throw up all the prayers
for Karin's mom. She requested prayers on X yesterday and
so I just feel like our group is particularly good

(01:11:14):
at that. So if you could just add her to
your prayer list, I know Karin would appreciate it, and
so would I. I have never I don't think I've
mentioned on this show that I adore Jelly Roll the performer.
I love him so much. And he was recently on

(01:11:36):
Joe Rogan. He's had a life, man, He's recovered from,
you know, some substance abuse issues, from some criminal issues.
He has come a long way, and he's just such
a He's such a love you know, there's just something
so lovable about him. And he was on Joe Rogan
the other day, who surprised him in the sweetest way.

(01:12:00):
This made me absolutely ball and I may cry again.
But here's what happened on the Joe Rogan Show.

Speaker 10 (01:12:07):
And then you were showing me a video.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I'm gonna show you something else too.

Speaker 10 (01:12:12):
I didn't think I make it, Joe, I'm gonna show
you this, buddy, give me some volume change.

Speaker 8 (01:12:19):
Congratulations on all the great things happening in your career,
and to thank you for the positive difference you're making
in the lives of so many people who.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Need the help.

Speaker 8 (01:12:27):
You're doing great work, buddy, And I'll never forget meeting
you on the Grand Old Lobrary and how much it
meant to me to hear you say my music helped
you get through some really tough times. That's one thing
country music does really well. And who would have ever
dreamed back then that I'd be back at the Opry
House today to say, Jelly Row, you're officially invited to

(01:12:48):
become a member of the Grand Old Lopry. It's an
honor to say welcome to the family.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Brother.

Speaker 8 (01:12:58):
He wanted to play that for you when you're here.

Speaker 12 (01:13:09):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Can you even.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
He's such a tattooed teddy bear?

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
I know, I just love him so much.

Speaker 10 (01:13:27):
You don't get no bigger and cutry music. Bubble just
makes a kiss, yo. You know what a fucking grand
olfree dog. Oh dude, I used to buy tickets to
go there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I mean it went on from there. I mean you
guys got to see the whole interview if you haven't,
it was so good. Oh my god, it was so good.
I just loved it. Anyway, I love him. Okay, so
now it is time for some talks. And because Karen
is six months pregnant, did you guys know that you
can't see her like you know from the you can't
see her, you want to show your belly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
I don't think. I don't think it's possible, but I
promise it's.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
There, all right. We do have some thank yous roth
Lady Wright says, I had a guy lose his mind
on me the other day because I said I was
okay with boat driving drug dealing jackwagons getting blown away,
especially if the boat is headed towards the United States.

(01:14:23):
I was like, shut the f up and go sit
the f down. This jackass was actually in the Air
Force thirty years ago. I usually respect my elders until
they prove to be stupid. She also says prayers for
your mom and congratulations to you, Krinn, and then Marcy
Parlez says, good morning Mac and Daisy, Daisy, glad to

(01:14:44):
hear your surgery went well. Thanks to Karin for filling
in today. Much love, Yes, thank you, thank you, thank
you for filling in. Miss Shell fifty five says, if
you're looking for something meaningful to do tomorrow, check out
wreaths across America to see if there's a cemetery near
you who could still use volunteers to place wreath's in
veterans' graves. That is always a really good way to

(01:15:05):
spend an afternoon. The photo in the story says the
age of the shameless grifter needs to end, and it
comes from the top. People are too online, including our president.
So much squandered in less than a year. Twenty twenty
eight will be brutal because the Left is awful. God,
I hope that's not true. I need I mean, I
feel a little dooman gloomy about twenty twenty six, but

(01:15:27):
I'm really still kind of hopeful for twenty twenty eight.
You know me too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Regina Pontez fifty six to seventy two says Candace is
the evil mistress in the movie nineteen eighty seven Fatal Attraction.
I will not be ignored. Dan Vibes totally, Oh my god, totally.
Guardi Lou thirty four, p. Fifteen says Candace's husband bankrolled TPUK.
It failed. He wanted to merge it with TPUSA and
Charlie Soul said no. He pushed to get the TPUSA

(01:15:55):
CEO job. Erica got it. Yeah, we talked about that yesterday.
That this there's rumors that George wanted that job and
that Candace has pissed off that he didn't get it.
Susi Q five nine says it's Candace's world, we just
live in it, which sure feels like that, doesn't it.
Christina twenty one seven hundred said she's holding a grudge
because she wasn't tapped for CEO of TPUSA, and she's

(01:16:17):
bitter that Charlie didn't have the same feelings as she
had for him. I hope Erica and TPUSA suit Candace.
That's the only way she's going to stop. Oh my god.
I so hope there's a lawsuit too. So hope there's
a lawsuit. Terry Selectski, I am absolutely butchering that. I'm
sure she says, if folks can afford it, I think

(01:16:38):
we should all. I think we should. If folks can
afford it, I think we should all. I don't know
what this means, offer, I don't know what this says,
but thank you, thank you for whatever that says. Let's see.
C News says trolls if you don't want to listen

(01:17:00):
about Candace GTFO of chat and if you are nasty
about the host or co host self deport please, and
thank you balls, Thank you Christine. She is one of
our moderators doing the hard job. Because yeah, the trolls
are gonnatrol, that's what they do. Oh, here we go,
Terry says, Typo. Meant to say, contribute to TPUSA. Yes,

(01:17:23):
if you are inclined to contribute and carry on Charlie's legacy,
which he would obviously and absolutely want, that's always a
good idea. Brian Brumley says, to all of you trying
to tell the chicks what to talk about and how
to do their show, why are you gay? It's a
great question. Mad Mom's seventy Candace and then like a

(01:17:44):
zillion puke emojis, I feel that. Shelley Bolton says, Corinne,
don't f with your face. If it's bad, you ruin
your face, and if it's good, it's not fair to
the rest of us because you are already gorgeous. That
is truth right there. Shelly Bolton says, Oh, and Mack,
you look wonderful today too. That's a beautiful color on you.

(01:18:06):
Thank you prayers for Corin's mom. I pray for this
community daily. Thank you guys, and thank you Karen for
filling in. It's always good to have you, and of
course Monday Daisy will be back, and then get ready
for a possibly long show on Tuesday, because we will
be obviously recapping whatever goes down in the TPUSA live

(01:18:28):
stream on Monday afternoon, and perhaps we'll have a preview
of that in Monday's show. So until then, you guys
have a most wonderful, wonderful weekend and we will talk
to you later.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Thank you, guys.
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