November 28, 2025 • 33 mins
In this brutally honest episode, former cop turned conservative firebrand Brandon Tatum spills the tea on everything from crooked politics to chaotic protests. He dives into why he almost became chief of police, how media spin is wrecking public trust, and what it’s really like behind the blue line in places like LA.
💥 From calling out “Summer of Love” hypocrisy to impersonating Maxine Waters (yes, really), Brandon breaks down:
The brutal truth about morale in law enforcement 👮♂️
Why “You spit, we hit” might be more than just a Trump soundbite 🥊
The shady role of paid protesters, agitators, and riot gear handouts 😡
What he sees coming in 2025—and why we are the media now 🎥
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💥 From calling out “Summer of Love” hypocrisy to impersonating Maxine Waters (yes, really), Brandon breaks down:
The brutal truth about morale in law enforcement 👮♂️
Why “You spit, we hit” might be more than just a Trump soundbite 🥊
The shady role of paid protesters, agitators, and riot gear handouts 😡
What he sees coming in 2025—and why we are the media now 🎥
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right podcast.
You guys, very excited today. You know him, you love him.
It's Officer Brandon Tatum, former police officer and now truth
teller on all the social media platforms, huge audiences everywhere.
We're so excited to talk to you and get to
know you better. And we know that you obviously used
(00:21):
to be in law enforcement, but what we don't know
is how you made this shift from that career to
political commentator.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, thank you guys for having me on. I love
your show. I followed you guys a while back. You
guys were saying incredible things, and I'm like, I love
these ladies about and I can't wait to go on
that show one day. So I'm happy to be here.
Very It wasn't the played thing. You know, I didn't
think I would ever leave law enforcement. I thought I
was going to, you know, be the chief of police somewhere.
(00:50):
I was hoping for Tucson, and you know, I built
my whole career on saying I'm going to serve until
the day I retire.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But then I began to be political. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
When I started out as a cop, I voted for
Barack Obama. I thought I was a Democrat, and over time,
a lot of my friends were, you know, convincing me
through giving me true information that I could not refute,
convinced me that I was probably more of a Republican
than a Democrat. And so over time I just became
more politically involved. I went to a Trump rally, which
(01:23):
was his first rally he did in Tucson. After my shift,
I did the night shift, stayed up. I said, I'm
just going to see what it's like. They say, this
guy's a racist and he's going to throw black people out.
But you know, I know that as a former police
officer that I have to weigh both sides. I can't
just go off of what people say. So I said,
let me go check him out. See what Donald Trump
was out about. And I loved it. I mean, it
(01:44):
was great. It was a great event. And the people
who were the maniacs were the ones who were on
the left who were protesting him, and they're trying to
you know, block the doors off and cussing that people.
I mean, it was a lot different than what I expected.
And I thought the things he was saying, we're things
that I agree with. The border, all the stuff he's
saying right now. And so I made a video online,
(02:07):
didn't think nothing of it, went to sleep and woke
up and I had thirty missed calls. The police department
called me shun Hannity's show. I mean, I had never
watched Fox before, so I didn't know who shun Hannity was.
My god, I didn't know who Bill O'Reilly was. I
didn't know what Fox and Friends was, and so I
was like, what is happening?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And I thought I was gonna get fired. I had
no idea it was about that video I made. So
after a while I caught on and I was like,
oh my, oh crap.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It was that video.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And actually in the video I said some crazy stuff,
you know. I didn't think nobody would see it, right,
So it was a guy that got beat up, and
I said, that's what he get. He deserved to get
beat up. And I'm like, man, I'm a cop, how
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So anyway, that led to me being more vocal online.
I wasn't really a social media person, but I said,
you know what, I think my opinions have value or something.
Just gonna keep give my opinions live. I didn't edit
videos or nothing, so I just went live every time
I want to say something. And then in twenty seventeen,
Colin Kaepernick video came out, or at least he had
(03:10):
nailed for the National Anthem, and I got sick of it,
so I made a video in my car and it
went megaviral. It had seventy million views.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And then I got offered a job from a company
in Anthem, Arizona, and I said, you know what, what
do I have to lose to me give it a try.
It was only supposed to be a year. If I
didn't like it, I'd go back to being a cop,
you know. I if it was for me, then you know,
I'll see where God wanted to take me. And I
met Kennis Owens and we became really good friends, and
I just never went back to policing.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And then the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Do you miss that?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I miss it a little bit, you know. Yeah, I
think policing was fun.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, I know it's dangerous, but that's also the
adrenaline part of it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, it's dangerous. You do something different every day.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You get to communicate with people of all walks of
life and you get chanting speak life in the people.
You know, it's not always about arrests. It's not always
about violence and getting killed and watching people get killed,
and that's not really the thing is. You know, a
lot of times you deal with young people who need
guidance and mentorship, and you have an opportunity, in a
position of authority, in their worst moment.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
To speak life to them.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And you know, there was different parts of the police department.
You know, I decoy with the K nine, so I
would go on and training sessions with the K nine
unit with the dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That was fun. I was a PIO for a year.
That was fun.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I was a field training officer, so I trained new officers,
which was crazy, right, they almost kill you driving a car.
They'd never driven a police card before, so you got
to sit there and watch them take corners.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
With the teenager.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, it's exactly exactly, you know, like my son, I'm
just like I got yeah, So you know, so it
was that that was fun. I mean, the opportunity to
move up and to do different things were great. And
I think that it would be less fun today than
it was when I was a young officer because now
(05:05):
there's under so much scrutiny. You shoot the wrong person
or even acting in good faith and it's not politically correct.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean, they'll destroy your life, even.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Though I think they're just getting beat up. They're just
getting beat up left and right. They happen, especially in.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
These cities, especially in these cities like LA, where they
don't care about the police. I mean, they're just tools,
are ornaments to be out there for show, and they
don't care if they live or die. They get hit
with rocks and they couldn't care that. The city people
couldn't care less. So yeah, I do miss it a
little bit, but I am enjoying where I'm at now.
I think God has called me to do the things
(05:39):
that I'm doing, so I'm just walking.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
My faith out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So talking about LA, speaking of LA, like, what's your
take on all the stuff that's happening there and the
drama that's happening, And I mean I feel for the
law enforcement officers there and think there, gosh, it just
just is so unfair they're being treated and they're not
being supported. And what's your take on all that? Since
you on the ground doing what they do.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I mean, it's gotta be a terrible feeling, because you know,
there's a thing called morale on the police department, and
so good morale gives you the confidence that when things
are going south, that you can pursue anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right when they're throwing.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Rocks at you, like, Okay, the city has my back.
My brothers and sisters next to me have my back.
We're in this thing together. We're doing the right thing.
Everything's gonna be all right at the end of the day.
This is what I signed up for. But when morale
is low, meaning that the officials are saying there's no
real violence here, it's Donald Trump's fault, you know, it
make you feel like, well, wait a minute, man, I mean,
(06:36):
you know, we're supposed to be in this together. I'm
operating on behalf of the city, and the city leaders
are just acting as if we don't exist. They're not
even acknowledging the fact that they're hitting us with rocks
and trying to kill people. I mean, they're literally trying
to kill people. If the Greek go through a front windshield,
it can kill somebody, right, And these people know that
they're dropping rocks off the freeway, and you know, so
when the cops probably feel terrible about this, and it's
(06:59):
very sad, and I hate the fact that the police
officers have to go through this. To be honest, if
they want to just have a you know, a free
for all, just have a free for all, don't involve
the police.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let the people go and destroy your city.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Then if you're not going to protect the police or
at least give them resources when it gets out of control.
So I think it's a terrible situation. It should have
been handled very quickly if they would have abided by
federal immigration laws. I mean, they could have been doing
this methodically over time. There's visas for people that need
to work that are foreign, you know, people from out
(07:31):
of the country.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's all kind of visas.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Why can't they, you know, make sure people are legally
in the country and let them work as much as
they want. But they want to influx illegal aliens into
this country so that they can grant them citizenship so
they can be another voting.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Group, care about pise and so.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's what we see being played out.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
When the government actually do their job like we hired
them to do, and like our taxpayers go to and
enforce federal immigration law. You know, this is what happens,
and it's sad that California is not supportive.
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I think people are getting sick of it. I mean,
I think that this is going to backfire on Democrats,
just like a lot of stuff is backfired on them
(08:19):
over They're on the wrong side of this at least
I think that's the case. I mean, we see people
that are supporting, you know, oh the protesters, and this
is they're they're making, you know, comparisons to him being
a knot. I heard the Nazi thing all the time.
I just want to like punch people, I swear. I
get so sick of that comparison.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And not that we can done violence on We never
can do violence on our show.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We don't do that. But I mean it's I just
get so sick of all the he's being so oppressive
or the authoritarianism and all the things that they try
to make him out to be. When there are laws,
people should be following the laws. We used to be
a nation of laws. That was something that Democrats and
Republicans used to be able to agree on, like a
little bit, like we have immigration laws and they should
(09:02):
be followed, and we're just not there now. It's like
we're so far removed from that. It's they are so
far left now, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, it's like the parent that's trying to be the
kids friend all the time. You go so far and
then when it's time to get respect, you lost that already.
You can't somehow, you know, pump your chest out and
say I'm dad now when you've just been his friend
so long.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And that's what they've done.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They've created an environment where they're no longer in authority.
They have backed at least the American people into a corner.
They've you know, pushed the LGBTQ stuff down. I throw,
They pushed immigration down, I throw. I mean, they pushed
all this political correctness down.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I throw.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And at a certain point people are sick of it. Yeah,
And to be honest, they have nowhere else to go
unless they're going to become Republicans, you know, like the
Democrat for instance, like they are on a they are
on an extremely wrong side or extreme wrong side of immigration.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's very simple.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They could have done like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton
and some of the other previous Democrats who said, look,
you break the law, we're going to deport you. And look,
let's make an effort to get people into this country
that deserve the work, that's seeking asylum. Let's find out
a process that we can make that work effectively. That's
what other Democrats and Republicans have historically done. But now
(10:21):
they're so radical. They're literally like, Okay, he's a person
who's committed crimes in this country and murdered people and whatever,
but he is he separated from his family. I mean,
they're flying down the people, right, And what's that El Salvador?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Really?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, he wears his hat backwards. He's totally cool.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Like people are struggling, people's tax dollars aren't going as
far as they expect them to go, and you guys
are putting on the charade. The Maxine Waters out there
the other day taunting the federal agents are are.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
The National Guarden?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
The National Guarden?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And she's like, what are you gonna do shoot me,
You're gonna shoot somebody?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Because it is that what they do in the history.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Have you seen them just blatantly shoot people in the
middle of the street, And I mean, this has not happened.
And for her, you know, I don't want to talk
about her age, but.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
For her, she.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
We'll do it. For you, We'll do it for you.
Were happy to talk about her age means out of control,
older than dirt.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
She's to know better.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Absolutely. And you since you have that policing in your background,
and I know, I listen, I know you can't get
into the heads of the current LAPD, but I have
to wonder, like if you can, do you think that
they feel collectively? And I know they're all individuals, but collectively,
(11:42):
do you feel like they must feel defeated and betrayed
even by the mayor, by the governor, by you know,
because they're not getting support. They're not even allowed to
assist ICE, which is another law enforcement agency to enforce
the laws on the books. So how how do I mean?
(12:02):
I can't you mentioned the morale earlier. I cannot imagine
anything more demoralizing than basically being told you don't get
to do your job, like you don't get to you
don't get to stop the people that are blocking traffic,
which I don't even understand how they're just standing there
and not doing something about that. It makes me rage.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And having rocks thrown at you and having things and
literally being hurt while you're trying to do your job,
and then not having the backs of the people that
are supposed to have your backs. That's what I can't mention.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's multifaceted, because you know, police officers have so many
other things to do, and so I think that this
is like one moment of clarity for police officers where
they go, these people are terrible, they don't support us.
But then after these riots are over, and after this
the smoke settles and the Democrats get back to business
as usual, cops are out in the streets doing regular
(12:53):
police work, you know, And a lot of times it's
on an individual basis, meaning that you control what you
engage with it on a day to day basis, and
most of it is in your control as a police officer.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But I think there is.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
An underlying current or undercurrent of saying, like, you know,
this is not what I signed up for. I don't
know if I want to continue to do this, you know,
I don't know if it's worth it anymore. I think
that some cops are feeling that that feeling, you knowing
the new cops that are coming in, they coming in,
they're coming in on a different identity as the cops
that when I got on or dudes that are twenty
(13:28):
years before me. So I think the new cops are
used to it. The older cops are probably struggling with
it a lot more than the newer guys, because when
you grew up and you're like, no, we used to
lay the hammer down, like no, we used to be
law in order.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
No, when you did this, you go to jail. Oh no,
not only do you go to you get arrested, you
do time in jail, start free strike rules like back
in the day. And now these cops are looking at
like what have we devolved into? But the young guys
are indoctrinating and they come up in a softer environment.
So I think that some of the younger cops are
like used to it being this way and they think
(14:03):
this is normal, and I think they kind of experience
it a little different than than some of the cops
that've been on for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Do you think that they would be in support of
Donald Like because Donald Trump the other day, you know,
had that hole saying you spit, we hit, and I
just I wonder, like, do do you think that cops
in general would feel like they have the like like
Donald Trump has their back when he says things like that,
because it seems like there should be way more significant
(14:31):
consequences for people who do spit at police officers or
throw urine at them or all the other things that
they throw, even if it's non lethal stuff like I know,
the rocks. Obviously they should serve massive amounts of time
for that. But even like if they are spitting, I
just to me, it seems like that's so utterly unacceptable
that goes beyond a First Amendment thing, do you I mean,
(14:53):
I would hope that cops feel when Trump says you spit,
we hit, that that matters and that they should you
have that same kind of support from Karen Bass, from
Governor Newsome that they're not getting.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I think, yeah, I agree with you, Like I think
about eighty percent of police officers agree with Trump, and
they support Trump woleheartedly and they're glad that we have
a president in place that support them, give them some
type of you know, recognition, and I bet eighty percent
of them voted for Trump.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I wonder what they thought about that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Still are leftists too, you know. Unfortunately, they're like the military.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just happens like these people get
in the profession and they're virtuous and they they're better
than anybody there. They're going to represent the LGBTQ or
there's some type of affirmative action higher whether they're black,
whether they're women, whether they're gay males, or you know,
you got a bunch of groups of people that get
into the profession and they want to be activists. You know,
(15:52):
you get them moving up the ranks, they become police chiefs,
and so you have them. It's just not often that
they are that way. So I would argue you, like
you said, most cops are are excited that they have
a president that's willing to say something, that's willing to
call out the bs in California. But there is a
few that are probably like, oh, he's so evil and
(16:13):
immigrants need rights to get hitting the head.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
With a rock. You know, you have those people out there.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Unfortunately, it's just so how do you see it ending?
Like where do you where do you think this is
gonna go?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do you think it's gonna be it's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's gonna it's gonna go like it always go. You know,
there's it starts out with the crazy riots. It starts
ot with them bludgeon and cops, and then it starts
with them damaging property, and then they go and loot,
and then after a while the hammer has to be
let down. Right then they start letting l a PD
and the and the state troopers. They start letting them
(16:46):
really let loose, and they start hitting them with less
lethal they start arresting more people. The National Guard comes in,
and then you see it dissipate because what really happens,
in my personal opinion, is that you have people who
are out there who are ignorant fools that are just protesting,
and then you have paid demonstrators who come in with
equipment and rocks and agitation, and they're the ones that
(17:09):
escalate this to a disproportionate, you know level, and then
they do their job and they leave.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If it was up to the protesters, I think the
protesters would protest for weeks and months at a time.
It's just that the regular protesters aren't as violent. But
the demonstrators that are paid, in my pinion, are come in.
They come in and disrupt and they leave. We saw
it with Black Lives Matter. They go from city to
city to city. You see this in La it's in Seattle.
They did some demonstrations in Arizona, and the true like
(17:39):
I said, the true demonstrators are probably have endurance, but
it's weak, like they'll stand on the side of the
road with their signs.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know, you're think they're.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Looking at another summer of love. Like you know, you
don't think it could be.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I can't predict it.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It could be, you know, with Donald Trump in office,
I think he's gonna he's gonna lay the hammer down
a lot harder than he did last time.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
But who knows. You know, Arizona is too hot, so at.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The dirt that's exactlys like that. You can only do
it for a few hours.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And everybody's like, Okay, we're in California.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
The weather is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You can set up on the side of freeway with
a nice ocean breeze and you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You come in Arizona. You'll die out here. It's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You will.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
They're not throwing you waters and stuff, you know, out
of water.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It's June.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
We're just preheating here, so it's so true.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, just getting come on out here. I wanted to
come out here and pass out in the middle.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Of You don't think the no Kings, this protest that's
happening the same day as the military parade, you don't
think that's going to be because you know, when you
look at the map of where all of the protests
from my schedule to take place, it's literally it covers
the entire country. But that requires, you know, people in
every single one of those cities to actually show up
and show out.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So it is disproportionate, right.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You know, La is huge, Mann, There's millions and millions,
tens of millions of people that live in La. So
it's gonna be the biggest display of people coming out
and acting a food Arizona.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You know, you got you got that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Tucson, I mean, nobody's gonna be protesting Tucson like that.
They'll probably be fifty people, you know, and they just
paying the same fifty people twenty times and make it
look like it's really a protest. You know, you see
them at the Capitol Building. And Phoenix is big, and
Phoenix about four million people live in Phoenix Valley, and
so you're gonna have you know, maybe two hundred people
(19:33):
here for twenty four hours. Maybe, you know, you go
to Denver, you go, you go places in Texas, I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
As are in Austin. We have all all of our
protesters are in Austin.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, right, and these people are kind of weak in Austin.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Either California is the absolute worst out of any place,
so totally that place is gonna be egregiously hired, you know,
propensity for violence and stuff than anywhere else. But you know,
in Seattle is bad too, and you got these em.
Francisco is bad. So I don't think we're gonna I
don't know. I don't know, you guys, that's a great question.
Are we going to really see what happened in twenty twenty?
(20:07):
I think the American people are sick of it, Like
you know, I think that illegal aliens George Floyd getting killed,
which which I think was more visceral than illegal aliens
getting arrested because they're illegally in this country because I
kind of think people are sick of them anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And I'm not saying all of them, but.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I think some people that are working class people are like, dude,
this guy, they don't speak English. They're doing this, They're
doing that. They I see them killing people in the street.
They out here taking jobs and they're home depot. They
just bugging like people get people, it's in their face
more and they get sick of it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, so I think that they're less lenient.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
But before we do that, we want to make sure
that you are stocked up on medications, especially because we're
right in the thick of like six season, you know
what I mean. This is where everybody gets stuffed the hall.
I want to make sure. Yeah, the Holly, make sure
you're protected.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
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it when the Mexican president is like, oh yeah, I
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totally support the protesters, because I mean that just shows
that Mexico wants the destabilization of America and it's like,
wait a second, everything is shifted now. So Americans, a
lot of thinking working class Americans who pay the bills,
they are getting really ticked off. They're like, this is
not okay. Like we're the ones who are going to
work every day, We're paying for all this crap. We
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are tired of it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
We are go to immigrants, the immigrants who forever like yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They have to pay these spines or they still have
people there. They are immigrants here, and they still have
people in other countries that can't even get.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Here that are their family members.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And they're looking at them like, you guys just snug
over here twenty four hours ago, and you got more
benefits than we do.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Not yea.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think they feel the pressure too totally.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Do you think that like Trump with the escalation in
the military and the National Guard, do you think that
that is going Do you think he'll continue to have
support for that or do you feel like that's like
a dangerous line that he might be balancing right now?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It could be dangerous depending on how violent to get, right,
I mean, you never want to see a video of
National Guard troupe shooting and killing people.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Right right?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't know if the protests are bold enough to
escalate it to that point, but there is a point
of escalation that could result in deadly force being used
against people that are throwing malt off cocktails. And when
they they back them in the corner, they can't defend themselves.
They're going to have to use force. This necessary to
prevent them from killing the National Guard people. I don't
know if they're bold enough to take a two two
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three round to the chest. So I don't really think
we'll see it escalate, but I kind of think that
Karen Bass and some of the other Democrats want to
see it escalate to the point of extreme violence, and
then they're gonna say, look at the cops out here
killing and it's some people that shootingeople with kids. Get
how violent they are, and then I think the public,
because a lot of people are soft, will beginning to turn.
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But like I said, I don't know if they can
push law enforcement with their technologies that they have today,
they can push them as far as to create an
environment like that, but I think that's what they want
it to do.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They want the scenes.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Remember back in the day in the civil rights movement,
where they had the scenes of them sicking the dogs
on black people.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
They want those videos.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Of the tax and the innocent people getting bit by
k nines and pepper spread in the eyes of grandma
and kids choking on you know, gas or whatever. They
want that imagery so they can say, look at the
dictatorship of the Republicans and they can put it in ads.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think that's what they're striving for.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I don't know if they're going to get it, because
I think that the military and police are smarter than
they were back in the LA riots before and back
in the civil rights movement, where they understand.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Optics are They also have the media on their side,
and they know that if they do get it escalated
like that, they can use clips to their advantage because
they have people on TV, like on ABC right now saying, Oh,
these people are just having fun burning cars.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's just fine, but you know, the summer love really
like burnt their cover, you know, like they really were
able to protect themselves under that initially, but then people
started realizing, like, oh no, my city's burning down. They say, oh,
it's mostly peaceful protests and a building is burning in
the background.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're like, what it wants?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
People like us. Alternative media point these things out. I
think the public are like, well, wait a minute, they
said it was peaceful. Oh, those billions of dollars of damage. Oh,
people got killed. Oh this person got injured. And then
now when they want to repeat that again. People aren't
listening to the mainstream media anymore. Donald Trump has truth social,
so they could listen to him on two social. You
(25:50):
got X's unfiltered, you have all of the mainstream. I'm
telling you we didn't exist in twenty fifteen. We weren't
as prolific, and I'm saying people like us weren't as
prolific in twenty twenty. Twenty twenty is when we saw
a ramp up and people really going to alternative media.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Twenty twenty five, we are the media.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
People are coming to us, whether they like us or not,
whether they're Republican or not. They are catching glimpses of
us on Instagram reels, and so they're not they're not
going to be food when they see looting at these stores.
And now we can pop up on the scene and
interview the store owner and that clip goes viral. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The only danger is like people are like, is that real?
Or is it AI because that's becoming a genuine concern, right,
Like that's a genuine thing that we got to worry about.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And furthermore, people should not be bringing kids to these protests.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No, you can see, to be honest, you can see
there's no kids there. And the reason why because it's
not a legitimate protest. I think that a lot of
these people will pay agitators. They go from city to
city to city.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
LA. They got a group of people that will go
from LA.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Now San Diego is a little more conservative, but they
would go from LA to other cities and they go
to San Francisco and then they move over to Portland, Oregon.
You know, especially those are the northern California. They probably
drive up to Portland or fly or whatever they do.
They go from Oregon to Seattle, Washington. I think that
these people are paid protesters, like they're traveling protesters. They
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did the same thing in Ferguson. Remember when when Michael
Brown shooting in Ferguson. It was later on they reported
that no, these people don't even live here. There's a
ton of people that don't even live here. In the
Black Lives Matter riots, you were getting people in these
cities that they were like, no, no, these people escalated. No,
we were just having a protest at night. They came
and blew up stuff and then they left. How all
(27:45):
of a sudden, these people leave and we never see
them again. Yeah, it's coordinated. It's coordinated to a large degree.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Yeah. I saw they were passing out riot gear.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Like, yeah, I saw a video of an event. A
van pulls up.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
They're passing out masks, and they they setting up rocks
in places. And that's what it is. This is not organic.
Organic is people going.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
To work every day and signs they're not like preprinted.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
How many illegal aliens are protesting? Probably none, They're working.
A lot of these people do work. I mean, I'm
being honest, Like there's a criminal element, but then there's
the element of these people that just out here working
every day and.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
They're working, and they're working and they're hiding exactly. Because
that's the thing we talked about this morning on our show,
is that it used to be Maybe I'm completely wrong
about this, but it used to be back in our day,
illegal aliens used to they used to kind of hide,
you know what I mean. They don't want to be
out there so they'd be like, Hi, I'm illegal.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Many many of them who are intelligent, And I'm just
saying this. I think that if I'm gonna be honest,
I think probably eighty percent of the people that come
over here illegally come over here just for a better opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They're wrong, they need.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
To go home, right.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I think they come over here for.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
A better opportunity, and they come over here and they work.
They get their head down, they work on construction site,
they work on these places where they don't need education,
they don't need to speak English. They were at the
carnival And when I was in Fort Worth the other day,
it was a bunch of them carnival.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They couldn't even speak English.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But they know how to do the joystick on the
ride and make it still in circles and take all
your money, try to hit that balloon that never pop.
But you know, so they have people working like that,
what are they doing. They're not hurt nobody, at least,
they're not trying to They're just trying to go to
work and they're not trying to get involved with the police.
But what I will say is this, there's the underbelly
of that. You have those who come over here with
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the farious means. They come over here to cosse problems.
They come over here and they pelage people, and they
and they attack and they and they abuse other illegals.
Because we used to have this problem in Tucson. Illegal
aliens don't want to call the police because they don't
want to they don't want to end up getting deported, right,
so you abuse it in the alien they won't say anything.
(29:56):
And the illegals that are doing the various things will rob, kill, raid,
you know, abuse children, abduct children, they'll do It's a
whole underbelly and what happens when your child gets abducted.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You can't speak English.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
In some cases they're afraid of the police because they're like, well,
my kid is abducted, I'm gonna get deported.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I'll just try to pay a ransom. You know.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's this whole criminal element that I think it's very
sad that these governors and mayors don't address. They just
say all these people are just working. No, some of
them are trying. But then there's people that are taking
advantage of the system. That's why you see these gangs
that are coming over here and doing drugs, selling drugs
and doing all this other criminal activity. That's why you
(30:41):
see all those people on the lawn at the White House,
of all these criminals that are doing heinous crimes. They
are not here to work, they're not here to do
the right thing. They're here to cause chaos and facilitate.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's literally all Joe Biden's fault, I.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Think, to be honest, it is you can't blame anybody
else because Barack Obama is as uh, you know, sweet
talking as he was. He deported more people than anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
In American history.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
So he may have alluded to the compassionate man, he
really didn't. He actually said don't come over here, you're
gonna go to you're gonna get deported, and.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Judges didn't stop him from people.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, because you guys know this just as well as
everybody watching. It's all bull crap.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's theater. Obama did it.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
He was virtuous, it was right to do. The Democrats
stood by him and say do whatever whatever. The Republicans
were the problems allowing people to come over here, choosing
cheap labor. This is what they accused the Republicans of doing.
But then when the Republicans just reiterate or re engage
in the actions of the Democrats Democratic predecessors.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They go, oh, this.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Is you, like, for instance, we know the big story
of the children in cages. Barack Obama's administration started the cages,
they built the cages, they toured the facility under his administration,
which is on television, reported widely. And then when Trump
mentions it how he's separating kids, they go to the
board and cry. The same people that watch Barack Obama
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do it, that attended when he did it, cries when
Donald Trump does it a few years later.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It's theater. It's not right. It would do anything to
win and gain power.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
You're absolutely right, and we knew that this would be
a topic that you would have a lot of thoughts on,
and we are glad to have been able to talk
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Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right podcast.
You guys, very excited today. You know him, you love him.
It's Officer Brandon Tatum, former police officer and now truth
teller on all the social media platforms, huge audiences everywhere.
We're so excited to talk to you and get to
know you better. And we know that you obviously used
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to be in law enforcement, but what we don't know
is how you made this shift from that career to
political commentator.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Well, thank you guys for having me on. I love
your show. I followed you guys a while back. You
guys were saying incredible things, and I'm like, I love
these ladies about and I can't wait to go on
that show one day. So I'm happy to be here.
Very It wasn't the played thing. You know, I didn't
think I would ever leave law enforcement. I thought I
was going to, you know, be the chief of police somewhere.
(00:50):
I was hoping for Tucson, and you know, I built
my whole career on saying I'm going to serve until
the day I retire.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But then I began to be political. You know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
When I started out as a cop, I voted for
Barack Obama. I thought I was a Democrat, and over time,
a lot of my friends were, you know, convincing me
through giving me true information that I could not refute,
convinced me that I was probably more of a Republican
than a Democrat. And so over time I just became
more politically involved. I went to a Trump rally, which
(01:23):
was his first rally he did in Tucson. After my shift,
I did the night shift, stayed up. I said, I'm
just going to see what it's like. They say, this
guy's a racist and he's going to throw black people out.
But you know, I know that as a former police
officer that I have to weigh both sides. I can't
just go off of what people say. So I said,
let me go check him out. See what Donald Trump
was out about. And I loved it. I mean, it
(01:44):
was great. It was a great event. And the people
who were the maniacs were the ones who were on
the left who were protesting him, and they're trying to
you know, block the doors off and cussing that people.
I mean, it was a lot different than what I expected.
And I thought the things he was saying, we're things
that I agree with. The border, all the stuff he's
saying right now. And so I made a video online,
(02:07):
didn't think nothing of it, went to sleep and woke
up and I had thirty missed calls. The police department
called me shun Hannity's show. I mean, I had never
watched Fox before, so I didn't know who shun Hannity was.
My god, I didn't know who Bill O'Reilly was. I
didn't know what Fox and Friends was, and so I
was like, what is happening?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And I thought I was gonna get fired. I had
no idea it was about that video I made. So
after a while I caught on and I was like,
oh my, oh crap.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
It was that video.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
And actually in the video I said some crazy stuff,
you know. I didn't think nobody would see it, right,
So it was a guy that got beat up, and
I said, that's what he get. He deserved to get
beat up. And I'm like, man, I'm a cop, how
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So anyway, that led to me being more vocal online.
I wasn't really a social media person, but I said,
you know what, I think my opinions have value or something.
Just gonna keep give my opinions live. I didn't edit
videos or nothing, so I just went live every time
I want to say something. And then in twenty seventeen,
Colin Kaepernick video came out, or at least he had
(03:10):
nailed for the National Anthem, and I got sick of it,
so I made a video in my car and it
went megaviral. It had seventy million views.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
And then I got offered a job from a company
in Anthem, Arizona, and I said, you know what, what
do I have to lose to me give it a try.
It was only supposed to be a year. If I
didn't like it, I'd go back to being a cop,
you know. I if it was for me, then you know,
I'll see where God wanted to take me. And I
met Kennis Owens and we became really good friends, and
I just never went back to policing.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
And then the rest is history.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Do you miss that?
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I miss it a little bit, you know. Yeah, I
think policing was fun.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, I know it's dangerous, but that's also the
adrenaline part of it.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, it's dangerous. You do something different every day.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You get to communicate with people of all walks of
life and you get chanting speak life in the people.
You know, it's not always about arrests. It's not always
about violence and getting killed and watching people get killed,
and that's not really the thing is. You know, a
lot of times you deal with young people who need
guidance and mentorship, and you have an opportunity, in a
position of authority, in their worst moment.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
To speak life to them.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And you know, there was different parts of the police department.
You know, I decoy with the K nine, so I
would go on and training sessions with the K nine
unit with the dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That was fun. I was a PIO for a year.
That was fun.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I was a field training officer, so I trained new officers,
which was crazy, right, they almost kill you driving a car.
They'd never driven a police card before, so you got
to sit there and watch them take corners.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
With the teenager.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, it's exactly exactly, you know, like my son, I'm
just like I got yeah, So you know, so it
was that that was fun. I mean, the opportunity to
move up and to do different things were great. And
I think that it would be less fun today than
it was when I was a young officer because now
(05:05):
there's under so much scrutiny. You shoot the wrong person
or even acting in good faith and it's not politically correct.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I mean, they'll destroy your life, even.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Though I think they're just getting beat up. They're just
getting beat up left and right. They happen, especially in.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
These cities, especially in these cities like LA, where they
don't care about the police. I mean, they're just tools,
are ornaments to be out there for show, and they
don't care if they live or die. They get hit
with rocks and they couldn't care that. The city people
couldn't care less. So yeah, I do miss it a
little bit, but I am enjoying where I'm at now.
I think God has called me to do the things
(05:39):
that I'm doing, so I'm just walking.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
My faith out.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So talking about LA, speaking of LA, like, what's your
take on all the stuff that's happening there and the
drama that's happening, And I mean I feel for the
law enforcement officers there and think there, gosh, it just
just is so unfair they're being treated and they're not
being supported. And what's your take on all that? Since
you on the ground doing what they do.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I mean, it's gotta be a terrible feeling, because you know,
there's a thing called morale on the police department, and
so good morale gives you the confidence that when things
are going south, that you can pursue anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Right when they're throwing.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Rocks at you, like, Okay, the city has my back.
My brothers and sisters next to me have my back.
We're in this thing together. We're doing the right thing.
Everything's gonna be all right at the end of the day.
This is what I signed up for. But when morale
is low, meaning that the officials are saying there's no
real violence here, it's Donald Trump's fault, you know, it
make you feel like, well, wait a minute, man, I mean,
(06:36):
you know, we're supposed to be in this together. I'm
operating on behalf of the city, and the city leaders
are just acting as if we don't exist. They're not
even acknowledging the fact that they're hitting us with rocks
and trying to kill people. I mean, they're literally trying
to kill people. If the Greek go through a front windshield,
it can kill somebody, right, And these people know that
they're dropping rocks off the freeway, and you know, so
when the cops probably feel terrible about this, and it's
(06:59):
very sad, and I hate the fact that the police
officers have to go through this. To be honest, if
they want to just have a you know, a free
for all, just have a free for all, don't involve
the police.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let the people go and destroy your city.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Then if you're not going to protect the police or
at least give them resources when it gets out of control.
So I think it's a terrible situation. It should have
been handled very quickly if they would have abided by
federal immigration laws. I mean, they could have been doing
this methodically over time. There's visas for people that need
to work that are foreign, you know, people from out
(07:31):
of the country.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
There's all kind of visas.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Why can't they, you know, make sure people are legally
in the country and let them work as much as
they want. But they want to influx illegal aliens into
this country so that they can grant them citizenship so
they can be another voting.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Group, care about pise and so.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
That's what we see being played out.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
When the government actually do their job like we hired
them to do, and like our taxpayers go to and
enforce federal immigration law. You know, this is what happens,
and it's sad that California is not supportive.
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I think people are getting sick of it. I mean,
I think that this is going to backfire on Democrats,
just like a lot of stuff is backfired on them
(08:19):
over They're on the wrong side of this at least
I think that's the case. I mean, we see people
that are supporting, you know, oh the protesters, and this
is they're they're making, you know, comparisons to him being
a knot. I heard the Nazi thing all the time.
I just want to like punch people, I swear. I
get so sick of that comparison.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
And not that we can done violence on We never
can do violence on our show.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
We don't do that. But I mean it's I just
get so sick of all the he's being so oppressive
or the authoritarianism and all the things that they try
to make him out to be. When there are laws,
people should be following the laws. We used to be
a nation of laws. That was something that Democrats and
Republicans used to be able to agree on, like a
little bit, like we have immigration laws and they should
(09:02):
be followed, and we're just not there now. It's like
we're so far removed from that. It's they are so
far left now, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, it's like the parent that's trying to be the
kids friend all the time. You go so far and
then when it's time to get respect, you lost that already.
You can't somehow, you know, pump your chest out and
say I'm dad now when you've just been his friend
so long.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And that's what they've done.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
They've created an environment where they're no longer in authority.
They have backed at least the American people into a corner.
They've you know, pushed the LGBTQ stuff down. I throw,
They pushed immigration down, I throw. I mean, they pushed
all this political correctness down.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I throw.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
And at a certain point people are sick of it. Yeah,
And to be honest, they have nowhere else to go
unless they're going to become Republicans, you know, like the
Democrat for instance, like they are on a they are
on an extremely wrong side or extreme wrong side of immigration.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's very simple.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
They could have done like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton
and some of the other previous Democrats who said, look,
you break the law, we're going to deport you. And look,
let's make an effort to get people into this country
that deserve the work, that's seeking asylum. Let's find out
a process that we can make that work effectively. That's
what other Democrats and Republicans have historically done. But now
(10:21):
they're so radical. They're literally like, Okay, he's a person
who's committed crimes in this country and murdered people and whatever,
but he is he separated from his family. I mean,
they're flying down the people, right, And what's that El Salvador?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Really?
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, he wears his hat backwards. He's totally cool.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Like people are struggling, people's tax dollars aren't going as
far as they expect them to go, and you guys
are putting on the charade. The Maxine Waters out there
the other day taunting the federal agents are are.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
The National Guarden?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
The National Guarden?
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And she's like, what are you gonna do shoot me,
You're gonna shoot somebody?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Because it is that what they do in the history.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Have you seen them just blatantly shoot people in the
middle of the street, And I mean, this has not happened.
And for her, you know, I don't want to talk
about her age, but.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
For her, she.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
We'll do it. For you, We'll do it for you.
Were happy to talk about her age means out of control,
older than dirt.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
She's to know better.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Absolutely. And you since you have that policing in your background,
and I know, I listen, I know you can't get
into the heads of the current LAPD, but I have
to wonder, like if you can, do you think that
they feel collectively? And I know they're all individuals, but collectively,
(11:42):
do you feel like they must feel defeated and betrayed
even by the mayor, by the governor, by you know,
because they're not getting support. They're not even allowed to
assist ICE, which is another law enforcement agency to enforce
the laws on the books. So how how do I mean?
(12:02):
I can't you mentioned the morale earlier. I cannot imagine
anything more demoralizing than basically being told you don't get
to do your job, like you don't get to you
don't get to stop the people that are blocking traffic,
which I don't even understand how they're just standing there
and not doing something about that. It makes me rage.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
And having rocks thrown at you and having things and
literally being hurt while you're trying to do your job,
and then not having the backs of the people that
are supposed to have your backs. That's what I can't mention.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It's multifaceted, because you know, police officers have so many
other things to do, and so I think that this
is like one moment of clarity for police officers where
they go, these people are terrible, they don't support us.
But then after these riots are over, and after this
the smoke settles and the Democrats get back to business
as usual, cops are out in the streets doing regular
(12:53):
police work, you know, And a lot of times it's
on an individual basis, meaning that you control what you
engage with it on a day to day basis, and
most of it is in your control as a police officer.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But I think there is.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
An underlying current or undercurrent of saying, like, you know,
this is not what I signed up for. I don't
know if I want to continue to do this, you know,
I don't know if it's worth it anymore. I think
that some cops are feeling that that feeling, you knowing
the new cops that are coming in, they coming in,
they're coming in on a different identity as the cops
that when I got on or dudes that are twenty
(13:28):
years before me. So I think the new cops are
used to it. The older cops are probably struggling with
it a lot more than the newer guys, because when
you grew up and you're like, no, we used to
lay the hammer down, like no, we used to be
law in order.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
No, when you did this, you go to jail. Oh no,
not only do you go to you get arrested, you
do time in jail, start free strike rules like back
in the day. And now these cops are looking at
like what have we devolved into? But the young guys
are indoctrinating and they come up in a softer environment.
So I think that some of the younger cops are
like used to it being this way and they think
(14:03):
this is normal, and I think they kind of experience
it a little different than than some of the cops
that've been on for a while.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Do you think that they would be in support of
Donald Like because Donald Trump the other day, you know,
had that hole saying you spit, we hit, and I
just I wonder, like, do do you think that cops
in general would feel like they have the like like
Donald Trump has their back when he says things like that,
because it seems like there should be way more significant
(14:31):
consequences for people who do spit at police officers or
throw urine at them or all the other things that
they throw, even if it's non lethal stuff like I know,
the rocks. Obviously they should serve massive amounts of time
for that. But even like if they are spitting, I
just to me, it seems like that's so utterly unacceptable
that goes beyond a First Amendment thing, do you I mean,
(14:53):
I would hope that cops feel when Trump says you spit,
we hit, that that matters and that they should you
have that same kind of support from Karen Bass, from
Governor Newsome that they're not getting.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I think, yeah, I agree with you, Like I think
about eighty percent of police officers agree with Trump, and
they support Trump woleheartedly and they're glad that we have
a president in place that support them, give them some
type of you know, recognition, and I bet eighty percent
of them voted for Trump.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
I wonder what they thought about that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Still are leftists too, you know. Unfortunately, they're like the military.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just happens like these people get
in the profession and they're virtuous and they they're better
than anybody there. They're going to represent the LGBTQ or
there's some type of affirmative action higher whether they're black,
whether they're women, whether they're gay males, or you know,
you got a bunch of groups of people that get
into the profession and they want to be activists. You know,
(15:52):
you get them moving up the ranks, they become police chiefs,
and so you have them. It's just not often that
they are that way. So I would argue you, like
you said, most cops are are excited that they have
a president that's willing to say something, that's willing to
call out the bs in California. But there is a
few that are probably like, oh, he's so evil and
(16:13):
immigrants need rights to get hitting the head.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
With a rock. You know, you have those people out there.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Unfortunately, it's just so how do you see it ending?
Like where do you where do you think this is
gonna go?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do you think it's gonna be it's gonna go.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It's gonna it's gonna go like it always go. You know,
there's it starts out with the crazy riots. It starts
ot with them bludgeon and cops, and then it starts
with them damaging property, and then they go and loot,
and then after a while the hammer has to be
let down. Right then they start letting l a PD
and the and the state troopers. They start letting them
(16:46):
really let loose, and they start hitting them with less
lethal they start arresting more people. The National Guard comes in,
and then you see it dissipate because what really happens,
in my personal opinion, is that you have people who
are out there who are ignorant fools that are just protesting,
and then you have paid demonstrators who come in with
equipment and rocks and agitation, and they're the ones that
(17:09):
escalate this to a disproportionate, you know level, and then
they do their job and they leave.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
If it was up to the protesters, I think the
protesters would protest for weeks and months at a time.
It's just that the regular protesters aren't as violent. But
the demonstrators that are paid, in my pinion, are come in.
They come in and disrupt and they leave. We saw
it with Black Lives Matter. They go from city to
city to city. You see this in La it's in Seattle.
They did some demonstrations in Arizona, and the true like
(17:39):
I said, the true demonstrators are probably have endurance, but
it's weak, like they'll stand on the side of the
road with their signs.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
You know, you're think they're.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Looking at another summer of love. Like you know, you
don't think it could be.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
I can't predict it.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
It could be, you know, with Donald Trump in office,
I think he's gonna he's gonna lay the hammer down
a lot harder than he did last time.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
But who knows. You know, Arizona is too hot, so at.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
The dirt that's exactlys like that. You can only do
it for a few hours.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
And everybody's like, Okay, we're in California.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
The weather is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
You can set up on the side of freeway with
a nice ocean breeze and you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You come in Arizona. You'll die out here. It's so true.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You will.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
They're not throwing you waters and stuff, you know, out
of water.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
It's June.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
We're just preheating here, so it's so true.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, just getting come on out here. I wanted to
come out here and pass out in the middle.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Of You don't think the no Kings, this protest that's
happening the same day as the military parade, you don't
think that's going to be because you know, when you
look at the map of where all of the protests
from my schedule to take place, it's literally it covers
the entire country. But that requires, you know, people in
every single one of those cities to actually show up
and show out.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So it is disproportionate, right.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
You know, La is huge, Mann, There's millions and millions,
tens of millions of people that live in La. So
it's gonna be the biggest display of people coming out
and acting a food Arizona.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You know, you got you got that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Tucson, I mean, nobody's gonna be protesting Tucson like that.
They'll probably be fifty people, you know, and they just
paying the same fifty people twenty times and make it
look like it's really a protest. You know, you see
them at the Capitol Building. And Phoenix is big, and
Phoenix about four million people live in Phoenix Valley, and
so you're gonna have you know, maybe two hundred people
(19:33):
here for twenty four hours. Maybe, you know, you go
to Denver, you go, you go places in Texas, I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
As are in Austin. We have all all of our
protesters are in Austin.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, right, and these people are kind of weak in Austin.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Either California is the absolute worst out of any place,
so totally that place is gonna be egregiously hired, you know,
propensity for violence and stuff than anywhere else. But you know,
in Seattle is bad too, and you got these em.
Francisco is bad. So I don't think we're gonna I
don't know. I don't know, you guys, that's a great question.
Are we going to really see what happened in twenty twenty?
(20:07):
I think the American people are sick of it, Like
you know, I think that illegal aliens George Floyd getting killed,
which which I think was more visceral than illegal aliens
getting arrested because they're illegally in this country because I
kind of think people are sick of them anyway.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And I'm not saying all of them, but.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
I think some people that are working class people are like, dude,
this guy, they don't speak English. They're doing this, They're
doing that. They I see them killing people in the street.
They out here taking jobs and they're home depot. They
just bugging like people get people, it's in their face
more and they get sick of it.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, so I think that they're less lenient.
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It's gross, right because all the travel and the parties
and the family gatherings and kids are host monkeys for
all the things.
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it when the Mexican president is like, oh yeah, I
(22:10):
totally support the protesters, because I mean that just shows
that Mexico wants the destabilization of America and it's like,
wait a second, everything is shifted now. So Americans, a
lot of thinking working class Americans who pay the bills,
they are getting really ticked off. They're like, this is
not okay. Like we're the ones who are going to
work every day, We're paying for all this crap. We
(22:32):
are tired of it.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
We are go to immigrants, the immigrants who forever like yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
They have to pay these spines or they still have
people there. They are immigrants here, and they still have
people in other countries that can't even get.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Here that are their family members.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And they're looking at them like, you guys just snug
over here twenty four hours ago, and you got more
benefits than we do.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Not yea.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think they feel the pressure too totally.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Do you think that like Trump with the escalation in
the military and the National Guard, do you think that
that is going Do you think he'll continue to have
support for that or do you feel like that's like
a dangerous line that he might be balancing right now?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It could be dangerous depending on how violent to get, right,
I mean, you never want to see a video of
National Guard troupe shooting and killing people.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Right right?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I don't know if the protests are bold enough to
escalate it to that point, but there is a point
of escalation that could result in deadly force being used
against people that are throwing malt off cocktails. And when
they they back them in the corner, they can't defend themselves.
They're going to have to use force. This necessary to
prevent them from killing the National Guard people. I don't
know if they're bold enough to take a two two
(23:43):
three round to the chest. So I don't really think
we'll see it escalate, but I kind of think that
Karen Bass and some of the other Democrats want to
see it escalate to the point of extreme violence, and
then they're gonna say, look at the cops out here
killing and it's some people that shootingeople with kids. Get
how violent they are, and then I think the public,
because a lot of people are soft, will beginning to turn.
(24:07):
But like I said, I don't know if they can
push law enforcement with their technologies that they have today,
they can push them as far as to create an
environment like that, but I think that's what they want
it to do.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They want the scenes.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Remember back in the day in the civil rights movement,
where they had the scenes of them sicking the dogs
on black people.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
They want those videos.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Of the tax and the innocent people getting bit by
k nines and pepper spread in the eyes of grandma
and kids choking on you know, gas or whatever. They
want that imagery so they can say, look at the
dictatorship of the Republicans and they can put it in ads.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
I think that's what they're striving for.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I don't know if they're going to get it, because
I think that the military and police are smarter than
they were back in the LA riots before and back
in the civil rights movement, where they understand.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Optics are They also have the media on their side,
and they know that if they do get it escalated
like that, they can use clips to their advantage because
they have people on TV, like on ABC right now saying, Oh,
these people are just having fun burning cars.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's just fine, but you know, the summer love really
like burnt their cover, you know, like they really were
able to protect themselves under that initially, but then people
started realizing, like, oh no, my city's burning down. They say, oh,
it's mostly peaceful protests and a building is burning in
the background.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
You're like, what it wants?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
People like us. Alternative media point these things out. I
think the public are like, well, wait a minute, they
said it was peaceful. Oh, those billions of dollars of damage. Oh,
people got killed. Oh this person got injured. And then
now when they want to repeat that again. People aren't
listening to the mainstream media anymore. Donald Trump has truth social,
so they could listen to him on two social. You
(25:50):
got X's unfiltered, you have all of the mainstream. I'm
telling you we didn't exist in twenty fifteen. We weren't
as prolific, and I'm saying people like us weren't as
prolific in twenty twenty. Twenty twenty is when we saw
a ramp up and people really going to alternative media.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Twenty twenty five, we are the media.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
People are coming to us, whether they like us or not,
whether they're Republican or not. They are catching glimpses of
us on Instagram reels, and so they're not they're not
going to be food when they see looting at these stores.
And now we can pop up on the scene and
interview the store owner and that clip goes viral. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
The only danger is like people are like, is that real?
Or is it AI because that's becoming a genuine concern, right,
Like that's a genuine thing that we got to worry about.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And furthermore, people should not be bringing kids to these protests.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
No, you can see, to be honest, you can see
there's no kids there. And the reason why because it's
not a legitimate protest. I think that a lot of
these people will pay agitators. They go from city to
city to city.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
LA. They got a group of people that will go
from LA.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Now San Diego is a little more conservative, but they
would go from LA to other cities and they go
to San Francisco and then they move over to Portland, Oregon.
You know, especially those are the northern California. They probably
drive up to Portland or fly or whatever they do.
They go from Oregon to Seattle, Washington. I think that
these people are paid protesters, like they're traveling protesters. They
(27:25):
did the same thing in Ferguson. Remember when when Michael
Brown shooting in Ferguson. It was later on they reported
that no, these people don't even live here. There's a
ton of people that don't even live here. In the
Black Lives Matter riots, you were getting people in these
cities that they were like, no, no, these people escalated. No,
we were just having a protest at night. They came
and blew up stuff and then they left. How all
(27:45):
of a sudden, these people leave and we never see
them again. Yeah, it's coordinated. It's coordinated to a large degree.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Yeah. I saw they were passing out riot gear.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Like, yeah, I saw a video of an event. A
van pulls up.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
They're passing out masks, and they they setting up rocks
in places. And that's what it is. This is not organic.
Organic is people going.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
To work every day and signs they're not like preprinted.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
How many illegal aliens are protesting? Probably none, They're working.
A lot of these people do work. I mean, I'm
being honest, Like there's a criminal element, but then there's
the element of these people that just out here working
every day and.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
They're working, and they're working and they're hiding exactly. Because
that's the thing we talked about this morning on our show,
is that it used to be Maybe I'm completely wrong
about this, but it used to be back in our day,
illegal aliens used to they used to kind of hide,
you know what I mean. They don't want to be
out there so they'd be like, Hi, I'm illegal.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Many many of them who are intelligent, And I'm just
saying this. I think that if I'm gonna be honest,
I think probably eighty percent of the people that come
over here illegally come over here just for a better opportunity.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
They're wrong, they need.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
To go home, right.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I think they come over here for.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
A better opportunity, and they come over here and they work.
They get their head down, they work on construction site,
they work on these places where they don't need education,
they don't need to speak English. They were at the
carnival And when I was in Fort Worth the other day,
it was a bunch of them carnival.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They couldn't even speak English.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
But they know how to do the joystick on the
ride and make it still in circles and take all
your money, try to hit that balloon that never pop.
But you know, so they have people working like that,
what are they doing. They're not hurt nobody, at least,
they're not trying to They're just trying to go to
work and they're not trying to get involved with the police.
But what I will say is this, there's the underbelly
of that. You have those who come over here with
(29:34):
the farious means. They come over here to cosse problems.
They come over here and they pelage people, and they
and they attack and they and they abuse other illegals.
Because we used to have this problem in Tucson. Illegal
aliens don't want to call the police because they don't
want to they don't want to end up getting deported, right,
so you abuse it in the alien they won't say anything.
(29:56):
And the illegals that are doing the various things will rob, kill, raid,
you know, abuse children, abduct children, they'll do It's a
whole underbelly and what happens when your child gets abducted.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
You can't speak English.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
In some cases they're afraid of the police because they're like, well,
my kid is abducted, I'm gonna get deported.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I'll just try to pay a ransom. You know.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
It's this whole criminal element that I think it's very
sad that these governors and mayors don't address. They just
say all these people are just working. No, some of
them are trying. But then there's people that are taking
advantage of the system. That's why you see these gangs
that are coming over here and doing drugs, selling drugs
and doing all this other criminal activity. That's why you
(30:41):
see all those people on the lawn at the White House,
of all these criminals that are doing heinous crimes. They
are not here to work, they're not here to do
the right thing. They're here to cause chaos and facilitate.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's literally all Joe Biden's fault, I.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Think, to be honest, it is you can't blame anybody
else because Barack Obama is as uh, you know, sweet
talking as he was. He deported more people than anybody.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
In American history.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
So he may have alluded to the compassionate man, he
really didn't. He actually said don't come over here, you're
gonna go to you're gonna get deported, and.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Judges didn't stop him from people.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Yeah, because you guys know this just as well as
everybody watching. It's all bull crap.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's theater. Obama did it.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
He was virtuous, it was right to do. The Democrats
stood by him and say do whatever whatever. The Republicans
were the problems allowing people to come over here, choosing
cheap labor. This is what they accused the Republicans of doing.
But then when the Republicans just reiterate or re engage
in the actions of the Democrats Democratic predecessors.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They go, oh, this.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Is you, like, for instance, we know the big story
of the children in cages. Barack Obama's administration started the cages,
they built the cages, they toured the facility under his administration,
which is on television, reported widely. And then when Trump
mentions it how he's separating kids, they go to the
board and cry. The same people that watch Barack Obama
(32:07):
do it, that attended when he did it, cries when
Donald Trump does it a few years later.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
It's theater. It's not right. It would do anything to
win and gain power.
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Are You A Charlotte?
In 1997, actress Kristin Davis’ life was forever changed when she took on the role of Charlotte York in Sex and the City. As we watched Carrie, Samantha, Miranda and Charlotte navigate relationships in NYC, the show helped push once unacceptable conversation topics out of the shadows and altered the narrative around women and sex. We all saw ourselves in them as they searched for fulfillment in life, sex and friendships. Now, Kristin Davis wants to connect with you, the fans, and share untold stories and all the behind the scenes. Together, with Kristin and special guests, what will begin with Sex and the City will evolve into talks about themes that are still so relevant today. "Are you a Charlotte?" is much more than just rewatching this beloved show, it brings the past and the present together as we talk with heart, humor and of course some optimism.