December 6, 2025 • 28 mins
Congressman Chip Roy joins Daisy and Mock for a no-BS, rapid-fire conversation about the real issues shaping Texas — and the country. From mass immigration and the rise of Sharia-influenced developments, to pausing ALL immigration, the SCORE Act rattling college sports, property taxes, safety, and the fight to protect Western values… Chip lays out exactly what he would do as Texas’s next Attorney General.
They also dive into: - The Senate showdown - The college sports bill that could change the NCAA - The explosion of non-assimilating immigration - Crime, corporate influence, and the clash over Texas communities - PLUS: College football chaos, Lane Kiffin, and why Chip’s house is a Longhorn/Aggie battleground
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right podcast. Today,
we have Congressman Ship Roy from Texas's twenty first district
with us. He is running to be Texas's Attorney General,
replacing Ken Paxton, who is now running for John Cornyn's
Senate seat alongside your colleague Wesley Hunt.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So we have lots to talk to you about that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
First, we wanted to find out if you have a
dog in that Senate fight.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, it's a great question. Now, I'm not getting involved
with any other races. Really. When you what you learn
pretty quickly is when you run statewide, you know messages,
stay in your lane, stay focused on your race. And frankly,
I've done that stubbing in Congress too. I mean, look,
I know all three of those those men very well.
I think they're they're pros and cons are fairly public
and I think that you know, that's going to be
(00:47):
a hashtob by people of Texas and people Texas usually
make good decisions.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, I think I think so, except for like the
Jasmine Crocketts and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
In the right districts state wide, why they make pretty
good decisions.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
And in the right districts, yeah, I'm a Texan. I'm
down around in between Sandwich, in between Waco and Austin,
So I'm down here, so I know a little bit
about it. But I'm curious what you think are like
the biggest issues that face Texans because I have some
that I think are probably the biggest issues. But what
do you think. What are you hearing from constituents?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I mean, look, there's a wide variety of issues,
but I'm just going to kind of go in the
order of the things that I'm hearing most from the
people that I represent. Number One is massive concern of
the impact of mass immigration, both legal and the illegal,
particularly as it relates to the advance of Shria law
and the massive expansion of the Islamification of Texas and
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the entire country. That is the thing that I think
people are most concerned about, and rightly so, as what
we've seen happen with Epic City and the East plant
of Islamic Center, the Islamic Facility down in Houston, three
hundred mosques throughout the state of Texas, more being built
every day in Texas or every year in Texas than
any other state in the Union. And that's a real concern.
And I think the people Texas are right to be
(02:04):
concerned about it. I've introduced legislation to deal with that,
to vet people for adherence astry of law, to take
tax status away from care which we believe is affiliated
with terrorist enterprises, and otherwise pause immigration, which we can
talk about more in a minute. But broadly, it's not
just these lambification issue. It's number one, but it's also
just just dumping of people into our country and what
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that means in terms of benefits. That's why I say
we should pause all immigration. We've got the people who
are coming in here using birthright citizenship, you know, using
up our hospitals and our schools and our jails. We've
got the pilor Bido decision, which was a nineteen eighty
two decision which says that we have to educate illegal children.
I disagree with that. I think we need to fight that,
and I would do that as Attorney general. So these
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are all things that would be sort of the big
bucket that I think goes to the culture, it goes
to the budget, it goes to our safety and security.
Joscelyn Nungray, who is murdered by trend at Agua, gang.
Her mother, Alexis is a great friend. She's a wonderful
woman that I've come to know. We don't need any
more tragedies like that or any of the others. But
the second big issue is is I do think some
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of the pocketbook issues. I think Texans are getting a
little tired of the property tax burden in the state
of Texas. That's more of a local state issue than
it is federal. But then the overall impact of housing
costs and healthcare costs, and that's a real issue that
the that the people of Texas that are represented frustrated about.
We're dealing with the broken healthcare system after Democrats ruined it.
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And then you know, beyond that, the last point I
would make is just general safety and security. These George
sores DA's putting criminals on our streets in Austin and
Dallas and Houston and San Antonio. Not just the gangs
and the and the things affiliate with billiable immigration, but
just literally putting crazy people out back on the street
that that should be in jail. People are sick of it.
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They're sick of not being safe in their capital city.
They're sick of cops getting shot at they're sick of
liberal you know, das and liberal cities that are not
backing the BLO. But there are many other issues I
can get involved with. But that's that's the short list,
but happy to talk about others.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's a great list.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The Pause Act are you getting pushedback for I mean,
it seems like such a no brainer at this point,
when there's so much cleanup to do of the illegals
that came in under Biden. Tell us where that stands
and if you expect it to be passed.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well as usual, the President has led and has has
put out there his pause on immigration from certain countries
that they've deemed as you know, potentially dangerous or you know,
certain other restrictions, And I think that was really important
that the President did that. That was a couple of
weeks after I introduced the Pause Act, which is a
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much broader application. It would pause all immigration except for
limited you know, tourist vices in and out for visitors
to come to the United States. But it would pause
everything so we can go back and review H one
B visas, we can go back and review diversity visas
and chain migration, and all the cousins and aunts and
uncles and people that people are bringing in when they're
allowed to be in the United States or they get citizenship,
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and then they bring all these people in on visas.
It would allow us to deal with birthright citizenship issue
and then plile or reno education issue. It would allow
us to do what I wanted to do in my
bill to vet people for adherence to sharia law. We
need a wholesale review of this, and this would be
the first time we've done this in American history. After
the mass migration of people in the late eighteen hundreds
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early nineteen hundreds, where we had their cultural differences, although
much less of a Gulf and the cultural differences in
those populations with Irish and German immigrants and Czech immigrants
and others that were coming in. That was a fairly
assimilating culture where we had schools that were teaching how
great America is and teaching the Constitution. We had the
Prayer in school, we had the Ten Commandments in school.
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We had a culture that recognized Christmas in our Judeo
Christian heritage, and that blending of cultures became the melting
pot because people wanted to assimilate. Today, we've got the
Islamification issue, people coming here or frankly, some people that
are from other countries in the Western hemisphere even that
wave their flags in their home countries that aren't assimilating,
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and a school system and leftists and Marxists that are
propping it up. And it's all an organized effort, which
is something I want to focus on as Attorney General.
I can talk about that more in a minute, but
it's an organized effort funded by radical groups that are
specifically trying to undermine Western civilization and the rule of law.
I'm putting criminals on the streets and Soros Das and
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Bill Gates Foundation and something called the Rent Collective that
is putting these criminals on the streets. I don't mean
to digress, but that whole issue, it's all purposeful. So
back to the immigration issue. We've got a pause it,
and we did it in the nineteen twenties and we
kind of reset the stage. And then since the mid
sixties we've now been having this explosion and now it's
crescendoing way up. And now we have I think fifty
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one and a half million foreign born people in our country,
which is sixteen to seventeen percent of the population, which
is the highest that's ever been and we've got the
highest number of people with cultures that are not readily
and actively assimilating into our American culture.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, I think you will to pass.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I want to know if it's going to be like,
is there pushback? Is it going to go through?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah? Of course there's pushback because you have corporate interests
who are saying, who wha, Well, we can't stop you know,
importing visas for labor and so forth. There's you know,
members of Congress are always going to be slow. If
you're talking about a I call it, you know, an
Overton windows shift like ship Roway is saying stop it,
pause it, pause it all. I think it's common sense
the average person I represent things, it's common sense. We've
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got a decent number of cost sponsors. I don't remember
how many right now, but call it twenty something co sponsors,
and we're growing that list by people that recognize how
important it is. But it'll take a push by the
American people, and it'll take continued leadership and effort because again,
things are wired in this town around the lobby, and
the lobby comes in and they say, well, we need
this labor, and we need this group and if you
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cut this off, then that's going to hurt this industry
and so forth. And I get those arguments, right, I mean,
there are workers and hospitality and workers and agriculture and
so forth. But I happen to believe that we need
to reset the table for America. First American workers, get
more Americans working, reset the table, remove bad actors, remove
people that are breaking our laws, remove people that are
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not adherent to our Western values, and then reset the
table and go, Okay, do we really have a lack
of labor in this area and you can import somebody
that wants to assimilate, Well, then maybe we've revisited that
in a year or five or ten. But pausing immigration
for five or ten years would be the best thing
we could do to reset a refocus on America first totally.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
There could be some discomfort, but get over it and
then we'll just see what happens. So like when it
comes to the Sharia stuff, Like when it comes to
the Islamic stuff, there was a Texas law that was
just passed right that that bans property developms that are
described as Sharia compounds. But what that to me is
kind of weird though, because what if they just say, well,
(08:56):
we're not a Sharia compound, like we're just a like
happy little compound, you know, like they can skate around that,
can't they.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, let me actually pause for one second answer that question,
because you said something that I think is really important.
You said, quote, I'm gonna paraphrase it. This might possible,
this might cause a little bit of discomfort, but get
over it. End quote That to me is the best
summary of everything we should do on all policies. Like, yeah,
we've got this view that government can't act, Congress can't act,
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the president can't act if for some reason that action,
which isn't for the best interest of the entire country
might cause one person or some group of people or
something some discomfort. It's like when the president was talking
about the terror policy. And we can debate the tarror policy.
There's reasonable debates about tearror policy and the powers and
all of that, and we can talk about that. But
he made a great point when people were complaining about, well,
(09:49):
how much you know, the toys that Christmas are going
to cost so much more, and he basically said, we'll
buy fewer toys, and look, I understand. I understand.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know how my parent, now you know how I parent, right.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I mean, like I think people have to say, it's like, well,
do you need like fourteen of the same Chinese crap
and you know, or maybe we'll get two or three
good things, right, And so I do think there's some
of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
If you want American labor and you want American production
and manufacturing and work, then you've got to be a
little patient and go through some of the pain to
make that happen. And I think that's the same thing
with some tax policies spending policy. It's like, well, I've
got so many people who come in here and go,
you got to balance the budget, but don't cut my stuff.
Well look, I'm sorry. I'm an equal opportunity cutter of everything.
(10:34):
And so if the Marl Bureau comes in and I
love my farmers, and they come in and go, well, ship,
we need more on the farm bill, I say, well,
are you going to help me reform snap and food
stamps so that we're no longer subsidizing crap? Well, we
agree with you there, but we just need our farm subsidies.
Like I know, but I cannot go in for that
bill unless we fix it or I'm a cancer survivor.
People come in and they go, well, I want money
(10:55):
for cancer treatments and stuff, and I'm like, that's great,
it's great. I love what you want to do there,
how are we paying for it? And and then so
I'm almost always against it. People go, you're a heartless
son of but you know what I'm going. Look, I
know I want to cure cancer. I want to I
want to treat people, help people. Again, I went through it,
but we can't just keep writing blank checks for stuff
(11:17):
because it feels good. There has to be some difficulty
in all. So thank you for that quote. And now
you you asked a question that I've now forgotten. What
was it, Suria?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I was?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I was talking about the Islam. Yeah, the law passed.
It says Sharia compounds, and like, how do you know?
How do you know?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And so that's a great question. And that's why when
you try to do prescriptive life. And I'm not being critical.
The legislature was acting and I think they needed to act,
and so totally I applaud them for acting. So however,
as a legislator in Congress, I see people all the
time wanting to have some prescriptive Oh, let's fix it.
People are mad about it, we're concerned about it. Let's
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pass the bill. And that doesn't you know, well, is
that really going to do it? I mean, I've not
studied the bill. And if I'm Attorney General, I will
go to spend the law and I'll go apply it.
And I'm sure it's got really good components that will
go help stop some of these developments. And certainly Attorney
General Packson has been doing an admirable job trying to
go and stop Epic City. There's any number of things
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to sept to Trade Practices Act, there's other things you
can apply. But to answer your question, yes, I think
the thing that we've got to be wary of is that,
you know, they're already renaming it is that epic city.
They're calling it the Meadows Project or metas something. They're
renaming the.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Project some Butterflies Project.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And they'll come in and they'll say, oh, anybody can
live here. And here's my question, would either of you
want to live in a place where there's a four
hundred all? No, of course not so if it's being
designed that way. But they follow the letter of the
law where you're still going to end up essentially with
a muzzlim enclave that are effectively going to enforce your law.
And we all know, right, so we're going to have
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to start getting very real about this stuff and about
how these developments are carried out. And then that's going
to raise certain uncomfortable truths for people about how we
textans generally view just rampant corporate development and and sort
of people say, well, you know, you have a right
to go, you know, sell your one hundred acres and
turn it into whatever you want, and the developer can
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development houses and so forth, and say, well, yes, but
we've got to recognize that if corporate America is making
decisions for it, they're going to make decisions on quick dollars,
quick bucks without regard to what is in the best
interest of our communities. And so corporations come in, they
buy up these things, and then they're going to sell
it for profit. And then some group is going to
come in and say, well, we want to turn this
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into you know, a Shurian type, you know, compound. But
we're not going to tell anybody that we're just going
to do it. We're going to have to be mindful
of that and call it out. That's why I go
back to if you're adherent toustry of law, you're undermining
our constitution, you're underminding our sopitalization, and you shouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, So you alluded to this earlier when you
were talking about you know, you push back. You're the
guy that's like, you're going to be a hardliner on spending,
and that is who you are. And I know that
that's resulted in some tang goals between you and the President,
especially after you voted no on the Big Beautiful Bill.
So where does your relationship stand now?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, so let me explain on that. So I voted.
I voted for the Big Beautiful Bill on the floor.
When we made changes to it, I had raised concerns
about where it was in terms of overall spending because frankly,
we've got you know, moderate members of the Republican Conference
and in the Senate that were undermining a lot of
the reforms we were making. Now, I voted against it
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in May in the Budget Committee for about four days
we had it. On Friday, we killed it. About four
of us stopped it from moving through the Budget Committee,
and we spent the full weekend negotiating the Green new
Scam subsidies, getting those returned. They had been pulled out.
Our cuts to the Green new Scam Compsy subsidies, which
would have reduced or eliminated them, we're getting pushed back
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in right. So they wanted to, you know, they wanted
to keep the Green new Scam subsidies going, and we
said no, no, no, no, We're going to get those
cuts in place of the President campaigned off and so
we had to fight for that, and we had to
go fight to make sure we maintained the medicaid reforms,
of the work requirements, the things that we think made
the build a reasonable, fiscally responsible bill. So to the question,
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the President and I get along great, We talked regularly.
We're moving forward in advancing his agenda. A recent scoring
went out to score members of Congress and what their
voting record is relative to the President's agenda and the
Republican platform that the President put forward last summer, and
I scored at ninety seven percent. It's the highest in Texas,
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the second highest in the House of Representatives, and it's
the fifth highest out of the House and Senate combined.
Beat by jd Vance and Mike Lee and Andy Biggs.
So three of my best friends around the DC.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That sounds like a pretty good record.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
That is a pretty good record. Are we going to
ask them about college football?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Mof oh, yeah, because we're all mad about Lane Kiffin
and sort of how everything went down, and so tell
us about the score act.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So this is pretty intense today. We're getting you know,
a much of the lobby community in d C and
a bunch of folks. Look, I'm the lover of college sports.
You know. Went to the University of Texas School of Law.
My wife's an aggie. My dad went to Texas Tech,
so we kind of covered the state.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh my gosh, wait and Aggie and a longhorn in
the same house.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yes, indeed, indeed. And what's funny is my wife we
met at ut law, but she never admits that part.
She only talks.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
About being an aggy.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
My dad's a Red Raider and I went to the
University of Virginia undergraduate and Virginia, you might remember, played
Texas Tech in the National Championship in twenty nineteen, so
that got a little rough too. So, look, college sports
are fun. I was a crappy walk on college golfer.
I loved it and loved being a part of the
athletic department such as it was. I mean again, I
was not very good, or I wouldn't be doing this
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as a job. I'd be you know, you know, play golf.
But the bottom line is we've got a complicated situation
that's been made by a broken NC double A that
never really led and allowed this alifester. Congress should have
probably either acted sooner or now it should be more
carefully acting. But you've got the Score Act, which is
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supported in general by the big Conferences, including the SEC,
which course includes A and M and Texas and the
Big Ten is a big proponent the Atlantic Coast Conference
to others. But because what they want is they want
an any trust exemption. They want liability from suit if
they the NC double A and these conferences want to
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have certain restrictions put in place with respect to what
the settlement agreement was with athletes getting paid and the
nil deals and everything else. Yeah, and they want to
be able to put in certain constraints. Now I agree
with some of those constraints. You want athletes to not
be in portals and just you know, flipping every year.
You want to be able to have some governing entity
that can strain that. My problem is this, the NCAA
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has failed repeatedly for decades. I'm worried about empowering a
broken NCUBLEA and a broken large conference system. We now
have an SEC with sixteen teams. We have a Big
Ten of eighteen teams. We have an Atlantic Coast Conference
with seventeen teams. You have cal Berkeley and Stamford, which
is decidedly on the West coast the Pacific Coast. In
the Atlantic Coast Conference, you have schools traveling all across
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the country. We're breaking down the historic traditions of our
old conferences, like the Southwest Conference where you have regionality
and you had Tech and Baylor in Texas and A
and M and playing each other. I think those are
important for the fabric of communities. I think the SEC
should the SEC in the Southeast. We should have the
Texas schools in the Southwest Conference, and working with Oklahoma,
I think we should be able to get the Big
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Ten back to the way it was and then still
create a college football playoff system that will produce a winner.
But the bottom line is this. I'm concerned because we
are not addressing the fact that universities are massively taxpayer funded,
and we're not dealing with that when we're talking about
all of the revenue that needs to be shared with
student athletes. So they want to do revenue sharing, but
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who's accounting for the fact that six hundred million dollars
I think every year goes into say ut out of
taxpayer funds, or the hundreds of millions out of the
oil and gas revenue, or all of the federally funded
student loans, or all of the federal grants for research.
So you get over a billion dollars. It goes to
these big schools. And now we're talking about revenue sharing
with a lockedown rate that Congress is intervening, but we're
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not going to do something about the fact that the
universities aren't on the hook for student loans. We're not
going to go ratchet back laying Kippen's deal or gym
the fact that Jimbo Fisher is making you know, fifty
million dollars to not coach. Look, I'll tell you what
I'll do a deal with A and M. You can
give me five million dollars to not coach, you know,
And I'll do it.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I'll do it. I'll do a better.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Job with not coaching me too, I'll do it. I'll
do it for I'll do it for five hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, exactly. And so I made that joke with some
of my colleagues here, say, I tell you what you
don't like. Bam, I'm a you know, I drive you
crazy up here on the hills. So just I'll tell
you what. Just buy me out. That's fine. I'll take
a buy out. But even though that would be technically illegal, unconstitutional,
but whatever. So the bottom line is, I'm sympathetic to
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what the universities want. I've had great meetings with my
friends at UTA and m other conferences. Big ten was
in yesterday in my office. But I'm opposed to the
bill as is currently situated. I think we need to
improve it. I think it does not deal with coaches.
I think we need to It does not I think
appropriately handle what we're doing with the student athletes. I
want to preserve something closer to a student athlete model.
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I understand Nil. I think you should. You know, if
you're able to go your image and likeness is being used.
I understand being able to get some of those dollars.
I don't think we should be in the old world
where Reggie Bush some houses, being Bopper's mom and they
don't have money, and you know all of that. But
I do think we need to have something that's actually manageable,
and I don't think we'd allow coaches to have these deals.
(21:03):
And importantly, I think we've got to look at the
total economics of universities rather than allowing them to have,
you know, one hundred and ten thousand person stadiums with
massive jumbotrons and all of these things. And then we're wondering, oh,
how are we going to pay people when we're borrowing
money to prop up institutions that are corupting the minds
of our kids and pumping out wos. Yeah, kids. I
don't think we.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Should se totally totally yeap.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So what's going to happen in twenty twenty six? What
are your vibes? Because you're there on the hill, We're we're.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Getting real worried, to be honest with you, not just
because you know the economic data looks good on paper.
I don't think a lot of people are feeling it
yet at their grocery stores and their housing prices. And
then there's this rift in the on the right right
now that is problematic.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That we don't feel like it's getting a lot of.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Attention from leaders, congressional leaders. It's kind of just happening
on social media. But you can be sure, I feel
like we've said this a lot. You can be sure
that anybody who's running for office is going to be
asked about Israel, about how America first they are about
I mean, all of the stuff that's kind of ripping
the right apart right now.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
What are you hearing? What are the vibes?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, I mean, look, you're raising a whole lot of
issues there. I will say this, I think that the
president is doing an exceptional job and the administration is
doing an exceptional job trying to move as quickly as
you can to undo the damage of the Biden administration
and then get what I would call a trajectory shift
for the country. Right, that's what you want, right, That's
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what we want these four years to do. And we're
getting a trajectory shift in our military. Recruiting's up, enlistman
is up, there's positive feelings, people believe in the military again,
I mean, I'm just telling you. You see it. So
now we're restoring them to a war fighting machine, and
that's what they need to be. They're the Department of War.
So there's one put that on the list. We've stopped
the flow across the border. We're removing people who need
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to be removed. Yes, werapving some debates and some bites
about how to do it, how far to go, and
all that stuff. But in general, this administration, with corecional support,
we gave them the money to do it. The Big
Beautiful Bill. They are removing bad actors. I wanted to
go faster. I want to deal with the shrillows. You
or working on that too. But you've never seen an
administration in history be so decisive and so quick at
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securing the border. We passed the Big Beautiful Bills keep
tax rates at a reasonable rate with some additional tax relief.
We had the first major reforms to mandatory spending Medicaid
that we've had in generations, to be able to put
in work requirements and to reduce and save money of
about a trillion and a half to two trillion dollars.
The economy is trending in the right direction. Secretary Veston
(23:40):
is doing a great job. The President is managing the
tariff of battles.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What do you.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Agreefully whether or not the point of it is to
try to restore America first, and now back to your question.
All of those things, and I can give you more
right and rooting out the WOK agenda in schools, trying
to dismantle the part of education, defunding NPR and PBS.
Like we can't sit here. I'll consume the rest of
this podcast going through the list of things the administration,
with some congressional support, are doing to write the shift.
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Republicans have got to get out of the trap of
in this case, the circular firing squad, where our disagreements
are on the margins, when we need to be in
the foxholes fighting the Marxists and the Islamists and the
people that want to destroy our country. That's my message
to Republicans. It's kind of your point, you know, you know,
deal with it. Basically, I don't know what to tell
you to deal with it. We need to lead right now.
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And this issue in the skirmishes on the right about
Israel and so forth. Look, I stand with Israel, I
love Israel. I'm a Christian that believes in standing with Israel.
I stand against endless wars. I've been public about it.
I don't think we need the public treasury going out
there and doing that. I want a strong military. I
want it to be sparingly used. I want to blow
up bad guys and then get the hell out. I
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don't want a nation go And I think that basically
summarizes where most Texans are stand with Israel, but we're
not beholding Israel stand up for you know, against endless wars.
But yeah, go fight the bad guys when you need
to take down some of these terrorists, you know, a
Narco terrorists that are killing our kids with fendal. Great,
we'll monitor it and make sure we're not involved in
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some endless war in South America. But that's not the
president's goal. President's goal is to stop bad actors. Look,
we've got to just grow up and stop getting these
academic circles where we're shaking each other and going on
podcasts and trying to get clicks, and let's go defend
the damn country. And that's what I think the President's doing,
and that's what I want to do.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I love that. I have one last question for you.
So I found out we found out that you're a
college you were a college golfer, which is really cool.
Tell our audience something else that they may not know
about you, Like what do you do in your spare time?
What does Chip like to do for fun?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, these are always good questions. The probably you know,
generally spending time with family and so forth. But my
wife and I would like to, you know, work on houses.
And I've flipped and renovated two houses Rob M. Kenny
one in Austin made you know, I mean, electrical plumbing,
all of it. I do a lot of it myself,
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you know, or certainly hire out a few subcontractors. And
then we've got ten acres and we bought a kind
of work in progress house that I just kind of
work on on my spare time and you know, make
conditions and improvements, and you know, we put in the
irrigation system during COVID and all that stuff. So anyway,
I just I love doing that stuff. I grew up
on a farm and I just like working and building
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doing stuff like that. Because it's Congress, we debate stuff
all the time, and so we're you know, it's rare
that we get things done by design, right, by Congress. Right,
you have to work hard to get like one thing done.
I've got a pile over here of four or five
bills in my career that we passed. Right. That's that's
good work, frankly to get that done. But you know,
when you build a wall, when you wire a house,
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when you you know, put in an irrigation system, you know,
you do it, you build it, you plant a tree,
it gets done, and you build a fence. It's and I.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Enjoy that exactly. Well, that's really cool. Well, thank you
for that. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, thank you for your time today. We appreciate it.
Congressman Chip Roya.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well y'all, y'all have a merry Christmas and hope you
had a great Thanksgiving last week. I see the Christmas
decorations of the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Absolutely, she's had those up since November.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
First, that's are you a Christmas music before Thanksgiving person?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I am one of those. Yes, I am the crazy
one of the two of us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And we got.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The Hallmark channel.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
On and like Octo, Yeah, I got all that home
everything Home Alone, all of it's on. Die Hard is
my favorite Christmas movie.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Man. Now you're now you're speaking my daughter's love language.
She's bought into. But she sent me a she showed
me a picture of a die hard advent calendar and
it's it's Hans God, It's Hans Grover falling thirty you
know or whatever, twenty five floors down, and so each
day it is an advent.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I have an ornament of John McLean like looking through
like they looking.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Through the events event. Yes, yeah, and that was when
he's like come out of the coast.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Have a few laugh, have if you laugh. See I
totally have that on my tree. It's fantastic. But we
wish you would marry Christmas too. Thank you so much time.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
We Christmas
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Mm hmm
Welcome to another episode of The Chicks on the Right podcast. Today,
we have Congressman Ship Roy from Texas's twenty first district
with us. He is running to be Texas's Attorney General,
replacing Ken Paxton, who is now running for John Cornyn's
Senate seat alongside your colleague Wesley Hunt.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So we have lots to talk to you about that.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
First, we wanted to find out if you have a
dog in that Senate fight.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, it's a great question. Now, I'm not getting involved
with any other races. Really. When you what you learn
pretty quickly is when you run statewide, you know messages,
stay in your lane, stay focused on your race. And frankly,
I've done that stubbing in Congress too. I mean, look,
I know all three of those those men very well.
I think they're they're pros and cons are fairly public
and I think that you know, that's going to be
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a hashtob by people of Texas and people Texas usually
make good decisions.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah, I think I think so, except for like the
Jasmine Crocketts and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
In the right districts state wide, why they make pretty
good decisions.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
And in the right districts, yeah, I'm a Texan. I'm
down around in between Sandwich, in between Waco and Austin,
So I'm down here, so I know a little bit
about it. But I'm curious what you think are like
the biggest issues that face Texans because I have some
that I think are probably the biggest issues. But what
do you think. What are you hearing from constituents?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I mean, look, there's a wide variety of issues,
but I'm just going to kind of go in the
order of the things that I'm hearing most from the
people that I represent. Number One is massive concern of
the impact of mass immigration, both legal and the illegal,
particularly as it relates to the advance of Shria law
and the massive expansion of the Islamification of Texas and
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the entire country. That is the thing that I think
people are most concerned about, and rightly so, as what
we've seen happen with Epic City and the East plant
of Islamic Center, the Islamic Facility down in Houston, three
hundred mosques throughout the state of Texas, more being built
every day in Texas or every year in Texas than
any other state in the Union. And that's a real concern.
And I think the people Texas are right to be
(02:04):
concerned about it. I've introduced legislation to deal with that,
to vet people for adherence astry of law, to take
tax status away from care which we believe is affiliated
with terrorist enterprises, and otherwise pause immigration, which we can
talk about more in a minute. But broadly, it's not
just these lambification issue. It's number one, but it's also
just just dumping of people into our country and what
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that means in terms of benefits. That's why I say
we should pause all immigration. We've got the people who
are coming in here using birthright citizenship, you know, using
up our hospitals and our schools and our jails. We've
got the pilor Bido decision, which was a nineteen eighty
two decision which says that we have to educate illegal children.
I disagree with that. I think we need to fight that,
and I would do that as Attorney general. So these
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are all things that would be sort of the big
bucket that I think goes to the culture, it goes
to the budget, it goes to our safety and security.
Joscelyn Nungray, who is murdered by trend at Agua, gang.
Her mother, Alexis is a great friend. She's a wonderful
woman that I've come to know. We don't need any
more tragedies like that or any of the others. But
the second big issue is is I do think some
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of the pocketbook issues. I think Texans are getting a
little tired of the property tax burden in the state
of Texas. That's more of a local state issue than
it is federal. But then the overall impact of housing
costs and healthcare costs, and that's a real issue that
the that the people of Texas that are represented frustrated about.
We're dealing with the broken healthcare system after Democrats ruined it.
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And then you know, beyond that, the last point I
would make is just general safety and security. These George
sores DA's putting criminals on our streets in Austin and
Dallas and Houston and San Antonio. Not just the gangs
and the and the things affiliate with billiable immigration, but
just literally putting crazy people out back on the street
that that should be in jail. People are sick of it.
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They're sick of not being safe in their capital city.
They're sick of cops getting shot at they're sick of
liberal you know, das and liberal cities that are not
backing the BLO. But there are many other issues I
can get involved with. But that's that's the short list,
but happy to talk about others.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
It's a great list.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
The Pause Act are you getting pushedback for I mean,
it seems like such a no brainer at this point,
when there's so much cleanup to do of the illegals
that came in under Biden. Tell us where that stands
and if you expect it to be passed.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Well as usual, the President has led and has has
put out there his pause on immigration from certain countries
that they've deemed as you know, potentially dangerous or you know,
certain other restrictions, And I think that was really important
that the President did that. That was a couple of
weeks after I introduced the Pause Act, which is a
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much broader application. It would pause all immigration except for
limited you know, tourist vices in and out for visitors
to come to the United States. But it would pause
everything so we can go back and review H one
B visas, we can go back and review diversity visas
and chain migration, and all the cousins and aunts and
uncles and people that people are bringing in when they're
allowed to be in the United States or they get citizenship,
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and then they bring all these people in on visas.
It would allow us to deal with birthright citizenship issue
and then plile or reno education issue. It would allow
us to do what I wanted to do in my
bill to vet people for adherence to sharia law. We
need a wholesale review of this, and this would be
the first time we've done this in American history. After
the mass migration of people in the late eighteen hundreds
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early nineteen hundreds, where we had their cultural differences, although
much less of a Gulf and the cultural differences in
those populations with Irish and German immigrants and Czech immigrants
and others that were coming in. That was a fairly
assimilating culture where we had schools that were teaching how
great America is and teaching the Constitution. We had the
Prayer in school, we had the Ten Commandments in school.
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We had a culture that recognized Christmas in our Judeo
Christian heritage, and that blending of cultures became the melting
pot because people wanted to assimilate. Today, we've got the
Islamification issue, people coming here or frankly, some people that
are from other countries in the Western hemisphere even that
wave their flags in their home countries that aren't assimilating,
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and a school system and leftists and Marxists that are
propping it up. And it's all an organized effort, which
is something I want to focus on as Attorney General.
I can talk about that more in a minute, but
it's an organized effort funded by radical groups that are
specifically trying to undermine Western civilization and the rule of law.
I'm putting criminals on the streets and Soros Das and
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Bill Gates Foundation and something called the Rent Collective that
is putting these criminals on the streets. I don't mean
to digress, but that whole issue, it's all purposeful. So
back to the immigration issue. We've got a pause it,
and we did it in the nineteen twenties and we
kind of reset the stage. And then since the mid
sixties we've now been having this explosion and now it's
crescendoing way up. And now we have I think fifty
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one and a half million foreign born people in our country,
which is sixteen to seventeen percent of the population, which
is the highest that's ever been and we've got the
highest number of people with cultures that are not readily
and actively assimilating into our American culture.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, I think you will to pass.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I want to know if it's going to be like,
is there pushback? Is it going to go through?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah? Of course there's pushback because you have corporate interests
who are saying, who wha, Well, we can't stop you know,
importing visas for labor and so forth. There's you know,
members of Congress are always going to be slow. If
you're talking about a I call it, you know, an
Overton windows shift like ship Roway is saying stop it,
pause it, pause it all. I think it's common sense
the average person I represent things, it's common sense. We've
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got a decent number of cost sponsors. I don't remember
how many right now, but call it twenty something co sponsors,
and we're growing that list by people that recognize how
important it is. But it'll take a push by the
American people, and it'll take continued leadership and effort because again,
things are wired in this town around the lobby, and
the lobby comes in and they say, well, we need
this labor, and we need this group and if you
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cut this off, then that's going to hurt this industry
and so forth. And I get those arguments, right, I mean,
there are workers and hospitality and workers and agriculture and
so forth. But I happen to believe that we need
to reset the table for America. First American workers, get
more Americans working, reset the table, remove bad actors, remove
people that are breaking our laws, remove people that are
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not adherent to our Western values, and then reset the
table and go, Okay, do we really have a lack
of labor in this area and you can import somebody
that wants to assimilate, Well, then maybe we've revisited that
in a year or five or ten. But pausing immigration
for five or ten years would be the best thing
we could do to reset a refocus on America first totally.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
There could be some discomfort, but get over it and
then we'll just see what happens. So like when it
comes to the Sharia stuff, Like when it comes to
the Islamic stuff, there was a Texas law that was
just passed right that that bans property developms that are
described as Sharia compounds. But what that to me is
kind of weird though, because what if they just say, well,
(08:56):
we're not a Sharia compound, like we're just a like
happy little compound, you know, like they can skate around that,
can't they.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, let me actually pause for one second answer that question,
because you said something that I think is really important.
You said, quote, I'm gonna paraphrase it. This might possible,
this might cause a little bit of discomfort, but get
over it. End quote That to me is the best
summary of everything we should do on all policies. Like, yeah,
we've got this view that government can't act, Congress can't act,
(09:27):
the president can't act if for some reason that action,
which isn't for the best interest of the entire country
might cause one person or some group of people or
something some discomfort. It's like when the president was talking
about the terror policy. And we can debate the tarror policy.
There's reasonable debates about tearror policy and the powers and
all of that, and we can talk about that. But
he made a great point when people were complaining about, well,
(09:49):
how much you know, the toys that Christmas are going
to cost so much more, and he basically said, we'll
buy fewer toys, and look, I understand. I understand.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
You know how my parent, now you know how I parent, right.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I mean, like I think people have to say, it's like, well,
do you need like fourteen of the same Chinese crap
and you know, or maybe we'll get two or three
good things, right, And so I do think there's some
of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
If you want American labor and you want American production
and manufacturing and work, then you've got to be a
little patient and go through some of the pain to
make that happen. And I think that's the same thing
with some tax policies spending policy. It's like, well, I've
got so many people who come in here and go,
you got to balance the budget, but don't cut my stuff.
Well look, I'm sorry. I'm an equal opportunity cutter of everything.
(10:34):
And so if the Marl Bureau comes in and I
love my farmers, and they come in and go, well, ship,
we need more on the farm bill, I say, well,
are you going to help me reform snap and food
stamps so that we're no longer subsidizing crap? Well, we
agree with you there, but we just need our farm subsidies.
Like I know, but I cannot go in for that
bill unless we fix it or I'm a cancer survivor.
People come in and they go, well, I want money
(10:55):
for cancer treatments and stuff, and I'm like, that's great,
it's great. I love what you want to do there,
how are we paying for it? And and then so
I'm almost always against it. People go, you're a heartless
son of but you know what I'm going. Look, I
know I want to cure cancer. I want to I
want to treat people, help people. Again, I went through it,
but we can't just keep writing blank checks for stuff
(11:17):
because it feels good. There has to be some difficulty
in all. So thank you for that quote. And now
you you asked a question that I've now forgotten. What
was it, Suria?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I was?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
I was talking about the Islam. Yeah, the law passed.
It says Sharia compounds, and like, how do you know?
How do you know?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And so that's a great question. And that's why when
you try to do prescriptive life. And I'm not being critical.
The legislature was acting and I think they needed to act,
and so totally I applaud them for acting. So however,
as a legislator in Congress, I see people all the
time wanting to have some prescriptive Oh, let's fix it.
People are mad about it, we're concerned about it. Let's
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pass the bill. And that doesn't you know, well, is
that really going to do it? I mean, I've not
studied the bill. And if I'm Attorney General, I will
go to spend the law and I'll go apply it.
And I'm sure it's got really good components that will
go help stop some of these developments. And certainly Attorney
General Packson has been doing an admirable job trying to
go and stop Epic City. There's any number of things
(12:14):
to sept to Trade Practices Act, there's other things you
can apply. But to answer your question, yes, I think
the thing that we've got to be wary of is that,
you know, they're already renaming it is that epic city.
They're calling it the Meadows Project or metas something. They're
renaming the.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Project some Butterflies Project.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And they'll come in and they'll say, oh, anybody can
live here. And here's my question, would either of you
want to live in a place where there's a four
hundred all? No, of course not so if it's being
designed that way. But they follow the letter of the
law where you're still going to end up essentially with
a muzzlim enclave that are effectively going to enforce your law.
And we all know, right, so we're going to have
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to start getting very real about this stuff and about
how these developments are carried out. And then that's going
to raise certain uncomfortable truths for people about how we
textans generally view just rampant corporate development and and sort
of people say, well, you know, you have a right
to go, you know, sell your one hundred acres and
turn it into whatever you want, and the developer can
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development houses and so forth, and say, well, yes, but
we've got to recognize that if corporate America is making
decisions for it, they're going to make decisions on quick dollars,
quick bucks without regard to what is in the best
interest of our communities. And so corporations come in, they
buy up these things, and then they're going to sell
it for profit. And then some group is going to
come in and say, well, we want to turn this
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into you know, a Shurian type, you know, compound. But
we're not going to tell anybody that we're just going
to do it. We're going to have to be mindful
of that and call it out. That's why I go
back to if you're adherent toustry of law, you're undermining
our constitution, you're underminding our sopitalization, and you shouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, So you alluded to this earlier when you
were talking about you know, you push back. You're the
guy that's like, you're going to be a hardliner on spending,
and that is who you are. And I know that
that's resulted in some tang goals between you and the President,
especially after you voted no on the Big Beautiful Bill.
So where does your relationship stand now?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Well, so let me explain on that. So I voted.
I voted for the Big Beautiful Bill on the floor.
When we made changes to it, I had raised concerns
about where it was in terms of overall spending because frankly,
we've got you know, moderate members of the Republican Conference
and in the Senate that were undermining a lot of
the reforms we were making. Now, I voted against it
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in May in the Budget Committee for about four days
we had it. On Friday, we killed it. About four
of us stopped it from moving through the Budget Committee,
and we spent the full weekend negotiating the Green new
Scam subsidies, getting those returned. They had been pulled out.
Our cuts to the Green new Scam Compsy subsidies, which
would have reduced or eliminated them, we're getting pushed back
(14:57):
in right. So they wanted to, you know, they wanted
to keep the Green new Scam subsidies going, and we
said no, no, no, no, We're going to get those
cuts in place of the President campaigned off and so
we had to fight for that, and we had to
go fight to make sure we maintained the medicaid reforms,
of the work requirements, the things that we think made
the build a reasonable, fiscally responsible bill. So to the question,
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the President and I get along great, We talked regularly.
We're moving forward in advancing his agenda. A recent scoring
went out to score members of Congress and what their
voting record is relative to the President's agenda and the
Republican platform that the President put forward last summer, and
I scored at ninety seven percent. It's the highest in Texas,
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the second highest in the House of Representatives, and it's
the fifth highest out of the House and Senate combined.
Beat by jd Vance and Mike Lee and Andy Biggs.
So three of my best friends around the DC.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
That sounds like a pretty good record.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
That is a pretty good record. Are we going to
ask them about college football?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Mof oh, yeah, because we're all mad about Lane Kiffin
and sort of how everything went down, and so tell
us about the score act.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
So this is pretty intense today. We're getting you know,
a much of the lobby community in d C and
a bunch of folks. Look, I'm the lover of college sports.
You know. Went to the University of Texas School of Law.
My wife's an aggie. My dad went to Texas Tech,
so we kind of covered the state.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Oh my gosh, wait and Aggie and a longhorn in
the same house.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yes, indeed, indeed. And what's funny is my wife we
met at ut law, but she never admits that part.
She only talks.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
About being an aggy.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
My dad's a Red Raider and I went to the
University of Virginia undergraduate and Virginia, you might remember, played
Texas Tech in the National Championship in twenty nineteen, so
that got a little rough too. So, look, college sports
are fun. I was a crappy walk on college golfer.
I loved it and loved being a part of the
athletic department such as it was. I mean again, I
was not very good, or I wouldn't be doing this
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as a job. I'd be you know, you know, play golf.
But the bottom line is we've got a complicated situation
that's been made by a broken NC double A that
never really led and allowed this alifester. Congress should have
probably either acted sooner or now it should be more
carefully acting. But you've got the Score Act, which is
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supported in general by the big Conferences, including the SEC,
which course includes A and M and Texas and the
Big Ten is a big proponent the Atlantic Coast Conference
to others. But because what they want is they want
an any trust exemption. They want liability from suit if
they the NC double A and these conferences want to
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have certain restrictions put in place with respect to what
the settlement agreement was with athletes getting paid and the
nil deals and everything else. Yeah, and they want to
be able to put in certain constraints. Now I agree
with some of those constraints. You want athletes to not
be in portals and just you know, flipping every year.
You want to be able to have some governing entity
that can strain that. My problem is this, the NCAA
(18:03):
has failed repeatedly for decades. I'm worried about empowering a
broken NCUBLEA and a broken large conference system. We now
have an SEC with sixteen teams. We have a Big
Ten of eighteen teams. We have an Atlantic Coast Conference
with seventeen teams. You have cal Berkeley and Stamford, which
is decidedly on the West coast the Pacific Coast. In
the Atlantic Coast Conference, you have schools traveling all across
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the country. We're breaking down the historic traditions of our
old conferences, like the Southwest Conference where you have regionality
and you had Tech and Baylor in Texas and A
and M and playing each other. I think those are
important for the fabric of communities. I think the SEC
should the SEC in the Southeast. We should have the
Texas schools in the Southwest Conference, and working with Oklahoma,
I think we should be able to get the Big
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Ten back to the way it was and then still
create a college football playoff system that will produce a winner.
But the bottom line is this. I'm concerned because we
are not addressing the fact that universities are massively taxpayer funded,
and we're not dealing with that when we're talking about
all of the revenue that needs to be shared with
student athletes. So they want to do revenue sharing, but
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who's accounting for the fact that six hundred million dollars
I think every year goes into say ut out of
taxpayer funds, or the hundreds of millions out of the
oil and gas revenue, or all of the federally funded
student loans, or all of the federal grants for research.
So you get over a billion dollars. It goes to
these big schools. And now we're talking about revenue sharing
with a lockedown rate that Congress is intervening, but we're
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not going to do something about the fact that the
universities aren't on the hook for student loans. We're not
going to go ratchet back laying Kippen's deal or gym
the fact that Jimbo Fisher is making you know, fifty
million dollars to not coach. Look, I'll tell you what
I'll do a deal with A and M. You can
give me five million dollars to not coach, you know,
And I'll do it.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
I'll do it. I'll do a better.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Job with not coaching me too, I'll do it. I'll
do it for I'll do it for five hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, exactly. And so I made that joke with some
of my colleagues here, say, I tell you what you
don't like. Bam, I'm a you know, I drive you
crazy up here on the hills. So just I'll tell
you what. Just buy me out. That's fine. I'll take
a buy out. But even though that would be technically illegal, unconstitutional,
but whatever. So the bottom line is, I'm sympathetic to
(20:18):
what the universities want. I've had great meetings with my
friends at UTA and m other conferences. Big ten was
in yesterday in my office. But I'm opposed to the
bill as is currently situated. I think we need to
improve it. I think it does not deal with coaches.
I think we need to It does not I think
appropriately handle what we're doing with the student athletes. I
want to preserve something closer to a student athlete model.
(20:41):
I understand Nil. I think you should. You know, if
you're able to go your image and likeness is being used.
I understand being able to get some of those dollars.
I don't think we should be in the old world
where Reggie Bush some houses, being Bopper's mom and they
don't have money, and you know all of that. But
I do think we need to have something that's actually manageable,
and I don't think we'd allow coaches to have these deals.
(21:03):
And importantly, I think we've got to look at the
total economics of universities rather than allowing them to have,
you know, one hundred and ten thousand person stadiums with
massive jumbotrons and all of these things. And then we're wondering, oh,
how are we going to pay people when we're borrowing
money to prop up institutions that are corupting the minds
of our kids and pumping out wos. Yeah, kids. I
don't think we.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Should se totally totally yeap.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So what's going to happen in twenty twenty six? What
are your vibes? Because you're there on the hill, We're we're.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Getting real worried, to be honest with you, not just
because you know the economic data looks good on paper.
I don't think a lot of people are feeling it
yet at their grocery stores and their housing prices. And
then there's this rift in the on the right right
now that is problematic.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That we don't feel like it's getting a lot of.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Attention from leaders, congressional leaders. It's kind of just happening
on social media. But you can be sure, I feel
like we've said this a lot. You can be sure
that anybody who's running for office is going to be
asked about Israel, about how America first they are about
I mean, all of the stuff that's kind of ripping
the right apart right now.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
What are you hearing? What are the vibes?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, I mean, look, you're raising a whole lot of
issues there. I will say this, I think that the
president is doing an exceptional job and the administration is
doing an exceptional job trying to move as quickly as
you can to undo the damage of the Biden administration
and then get what I would call a trajectory shift
for the country. Right, that's what you want, right, That's
(22:34):
what we want these four years to do. And we're
getting a trajectory shift in our military. Recruiting's up, enlistman
is up, there's positive feelings, people believe in the military again,
I mean, I'm just telling you. You see it. So
now we're restoring them to a war fighting machine, and
that's what they need to be. They're the Department of War.
So there's one put that on the list. We've stopped
the flow across the border. We're removing people who need
(22:57):
to be removed. Yes, werapving some debates and some bites
about how to do it, how far to go, and
all that stuff. But in general, this administration, with corecional support,
we gave them the money to do it. The Big
Beautiful Bill. They are removing bad actors. I wanted to
go faster. I want to deal with the shrillows. You
or working on that too. But you've never seen an
administration in history be so decisive and so quick at
(23:17):
securing the border. We passed the Big Beautiful Bills keep
tax rates at a reasonable rate with some additional tax relief.
We had the first major reforms to mandatory spending Medicaid
that we've had in generations, to be able to put
in work requirements and to reduce and save money of
about a trillion and a half to two trillion dollars.
The economy is trending in the right direction. Secretary Veston
(23:40):
is doing a great job. The President is managing the
tariff of battles.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
What do you.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Agreefully whether or not the point of it is to
try to restore America first, and now back to your question.
All of those things, and I can give you more
right and rooting out the WOK agenda in schools, trying
to dismantle the part of education, defunding NPR and PBS.
Like we can't sit here. I'll consume the rest of
this podcast going through the list of things the administration,
with some congressional support, are doing to write the shift.
(24:08):
Republicans have got to get out of the trap of
in this case, the circular firing squad, where our disagreements
are on the margins, when we need to be in
the foxholes fighting the Marxists and the Islamists and the
people that want to destroy our country. That's my message
to Republicans. It's kind of your point, you know, you know,
deal with it. Basically, I don't know what to tell
you to deal with it. We need to lead right now.
(24:30):
And this issue in the skirmishes on the right about
Israel and so forth. Look, I stand with Israel, I
love Israel. I'm a Christian that believes in standing with Israel.
I stand against endless wars. I've been public about it.
I don't think we need the public treasury going out
there and doing that. I want a strong military. I
want it to be sparingly used. I want to blow
up bad guys and then get the hell out. I
(24:51):
don't want a nation go And I think that basically
summarizes where most Texans are stand with Israel, but we're
not beholding Israel stand up for you know, against endless wars.
But yeah, go fight the bad guys when you need
to take down some of these terrorists, you know, a
Narco terrorists that are killing our kids with fendal. Great,
we'll monitor it and make sure we're not involved in
(25:11):
some endless war in South America. But that's not the
president's goal. President's goal is to stop bad actors. Look,
we've got to just grow up and stop getting these
academic circles where we're shaking each other and going on
podcasts and trying to get clicks, and let's go defend
the damn country. And that's what I think the President's doing,
and that's what I want to do.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I love that. I have one last question for you.
So I found out we found out that you're a
college you were a college golfer, which is really cool.
Tell our audience something else that they may not know
about you, Like what do you do in your spare time?
What does Chip like to do for fun?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, these are always good questions. The probably you know,
generally spending time with family and so forth. But my
wife and I would like to, you know, work on houses.
And I've flipped and renovated two houses Rob M. Kenny
one in Austin made you know, I mean, electrical plumbing,
all of it. I do a lot of it myself,
(26:04):
you know, or certainly hire out a few subcontractors. And
then we've got ten acres and we bought a kind
of work in progress house that I just kind of
work on on my spare time and you know, make
conditions and improvements, and you know, we put in the
irrigation system during COVID and all that stuff. So anyway,
I just I love doing that stuff. I grew up
on a farm and I just like working and building
(26:26):
doing stuff like that. Because it's Congress, we debate stuff
all the time, and so we're you know, it's rare
that we get things done by design, right, by Congress. Right,
you have to work hard to get like one thing done.
I've got a pile over here of four or five
bills in my career that we passed. Right. That's that's
good work, frankly to get that done. But you know,
when you build a wall, when you wire a house,
(26:47):
when you you know, put in an irrigation system, you know,
you do it, you build it, you plant a tree,
it gets done, and you build a fence. It's and I.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Enjoy that exactly. Well, that's really cool. Well, thank you
for that. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah, thank you for your time today. We appreciate it.
Congressman Chip Roya.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well y'all, y'all have a merry Christmas and hope you
had a great Thanksgiving last week. I see the Christmas
decorations of the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Absolutely, she's had those up since November.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
First, that's are you a Christmas music before Thanksgiving person?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I am one of those. Yes, I am the crazy
one of the two of us. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
And we got.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
The Hallmark channel.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
On and like Octo, Yeah, I got all that home
everything Home Alone, all of it's on. Die Hard is
my favorite Christmas movie.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Man. Now you're now you're speaking my daughter's love language.
She's bought into. But she sent me a she showed
me a picture of a die hard advent calendar and
it's it's Hans God, It's Hans Grover falling thirty you
know or whatever, twenty five floors down, and so each
day it is an advent.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I have an ornament of John McLean like looking through
like they looking.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Through the events event. Yes, yeah, and that was when
he's like come out of the coast.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Have a few laugh, have if you laugh. See I
totally have that on my tree. It's fantastic. But we
wish you would marry Christmas too. Thank you so much time.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
We Christmas
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Mm hmm
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