June 16, 2025 • 63 mins
Original Release Date: Monday 16 June 2025
Description: From a secret location somewhere in America (actually a rooftop high atop the historic village neighborhood where Phil resides): Dean and Phil got together IN PERSON, and Phil’s better half, Lily Holleman, joined them, first to see an experimental film from 1990 (All the Vermeers in New York) at the American Cinematheque, and then to discuss it (over cocktails). You have probably NOT seen the movie, but the discussion is both interesting AND sets up many later conversation strands that prove hilarious! In fact, if this is not the funniest episode of YOUR Chillpak Hollywood Hour, it will do until the funniest episode gets here! Partway through, Steve the Turk (who last joined the festivities at a bar in Helsingør, Denmark, when Year 18 Episode 45 was recorded during Dean’s bachelor party) joins the trio. Steve regales with information about Turkey, Denmark and Hamburg, Germany. Personalized license plates, the “No Kings” protests and who Steve the Turk’s “best friend” might be are just some of the hard-hitting topics the team delve into before opening the Chillpak morgue and getting down to the brass tacks of a VERY competitive round of “Celebrity Deaths”!
Description: From a secret location somewhere in America (actually a rooftop high atop the historic village neighborhood where Phil resides): Dean and Phil got together IN PERSON, and Phil’s better half, Lily Holleman, joined them, first to see an experimental film from 1990 (All the Vermeers in New York) at the American Cinematheque, and then to discuss it (over cocktails). You have probably NOT seen the movie, but the discussion is both interesting AND sets up many later conversation strands that prove hilarious! In fact, if this is not the funniest episode of YOUR Chillpak Hollywood Hour, it will do until the funniest episode gets here! Partway through, Steve the Turk (who last joined the festivities at a bar in Helsingør, Denmark, when Year 18 Episode 45 was recorded during Dean’s bachelor party) joins the trio. Steve regales with information about Turkey, Denmark and Hamburg, Germany. Personalized license plates, the “No Kings” protests and who Steve the Turk’s “best friend” might be are just some of the hard-hitting topics the team delve into before opening the Chillpak morgue and getting down to the brass tacks of a VERY competitive round of “Celebrity Deaths”!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From a secret location somewhere in America.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is your chill Pack, Hollywood Out Your Chill Pack,
Hollywood Hour with Dean Hagland and Phil Lareness.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, we're recording, everybody. We're rooftop, We're high atop. The
historic core of Los felis a historic It's really kind
of a town in the center of a big city.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
US small town, a village, a village of.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
A walkable village, forty thousand people of a village, a
village of forty thousand people who when it comes to
the idea of letting an apex predator room free on
the streets, we're a okay with that. It's lost feelings.
This is your chill Pack, Hollywood Hour, Year nineteen, Episode
(01:02):
one hundred sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It keeps on getting.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's a gift.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
The voice you're hearing that keeps on giving.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The voices you're hearing across the table from me are
in order of you hearing them. TV's Dean Hagland here
in the city of angels Yay, Los Angeles, California, and
my wife, actress rock On Tour Podiatrist to the.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Stars, Rocky Road.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
That was my preferred thirty one flavor. Dean keeps trying
to just say what I'm saying at the same time, anything.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And human echo, and I say it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Rocky Road was also your burlesque name.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Thirty one Flavors choice as a child, Welcome. My name
is Lily Holloman aka Lily Lareness.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Aka Lil Lil.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I like Lily, I did too.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I wanted to be my vanity plate.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was taken. I can't imagine.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
No, I don't think it is. I I haven't looked
into it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So do we remember the wonderful musician and actress Denise
Matthews I think was her real name, but she was
famous the world over? Is vanity protege of Prince? Please
tell me vanity had to vanity plate? And what would
that vanity plate be?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I mean, and I t why.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
A star?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
No, I thought it's seven? Is it not?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, it's like a phone number or wrong at six.
Maybe it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And so let's start a camp entertainment. Look, here's what
we're setting up. And I'm setting this conversation up so
that quite frankly, I can put my mic down, close
the channel and go and bring up our other August
guest who will be the three of us just went
(03:04):
to the American Cinematech at the Los Phelis three. Thanks
for joining us, Dean, thank you. We established that we
were going to do this. I think on last week's
show we talked about this and the movie was every
bit is perplexing on so many levels as I expected
it to be. What I did not expect and what
you are quite judgmental about is I enjoyed. I enjoyed
(03:28):
every moment of it. I loved looking at this thing.
I loved the sound design, really love it. If we
can say that it was designed, I don't know, because
everything that you kind of besmirched it with. But with
the big brush of like student film, I was like, oh,
this is like a student film. So anyway, look there
(03:53):
was a retrospective of Jean Jost and anyway, we saw
this film all the vermirs in New York. And what's
going to happen now, and I'm gonna listen to it later,
is the two of you are going to explain why
the hell happened in that movie?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Okay, So the first problem, I have.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A problem to say what the movie is about? Can
tell what happens in it before you disparaging it because.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I can explain. I can explain.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I read the description of it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Having seen it, I understand it less.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Now let me give us the synopsis.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Okay. So I'm somewhere between you and Phil. I think it.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I think it deserves more credit than you're giving it
and less than he is.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, but I need that kind of baseline. Okay.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So my take on the film was it follows basically
two people, but it misleads you into thinking it's gonna
follow a few more. But there's two people, and the
general theme of the movie is art and connection and
(05:14):
creativity versus commerce and how they cannot meet. And so
there's a man who works on Wall Street who goes
to try to find his soul in this for mirror
gallery at the met and sees a woman much younger
(05:37):
woman than he, which isn't addressed, that's true, and he
gives her his number, and it's all very transactional. Every
interaction between them is transactional. She barely speaks, He speaks
(05:57):
to her, He talks about how beautiful she is. He
basically monologues at this young French actress and her big
point of connection with him was I need money for
the rent.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, and he's the three thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So I think this is the theme because we also
have this artist that comes in that needs ten thousand
dollars who we never see again.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And then there's the woman who wants to buy his work,
and then the gallery dealer says, oh, I already have
that one. You can't have it, like so she there.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Was a different artist's work. I think she was trying.
I think it it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Was weren't that guy in the I think so, Oh
my god. Really I thought that was the whole point
of that whole scene. Is that that was because he
took a knife and he took one of his own
paintings that he was going to fix. Was he stealing
somebody else's artwork in that scene?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
No, No, he was.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I thought his work was like somewhere else in the gallery.
It was a little confusing.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Really confusing. So I'm not pleased.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
So it's definitely, yeah, it's definitely. Everything was in an
effort to talk about art versus commerce and how they
don't really come together.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So I went to a Canadian university in the eighties
into the nineties in the arts program, theater, dance, film,
and visual arts, right, yeah, I took all of them, okay.
And in the film department there was this idea of
(07:44):
the frame being that of a moving piece of visual art,
so that you're not actually capturing a performance. You're not capturing,
but you are trying to create a painting that has time,
so it's a painting plus time, right, So a lot
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of these paintings, like I said, this woman who won
first place in my senior year for her film, she
basically put a tripod on the back of a BC
fairy and just filmed the wake of the faery through
the ocean and then just did a monologue about her
dad died and it just was I guess it was hypnotic.
(08:25):
I guess it was emostly compelling, but it was dullest
toast and it was just one shot. It was one
shot that went on for seven minutes. Much like this
film had. There were very long shots the New York Skyline,
for instance, scenes where you just him and her on
the couch, just slowly scanning back and forth and going
(08:47):
beyond the back of their heads so you could see
some of the sculpture pieces that he had in his apartment,
slowly back and forth, and there was no dynamic tension.
There was no arc of an arc you know how
every scene should have an arc. Right, Oh, that was
flattened out. This was all flattened out. And I guess
(09:07):
like a amir it's flattened right. I mean you got
some depth, but basically all Vmir's are at a window
that light sideways and then your subject is there. He
basically had the same studio lighting for almost all his paintings. Right,
this was the same thing. Almost all the same shots
were almost all the same lighting, all the same Vimir angles. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
They He definitely had some specific references to Vermire paintings
in the shots. He had one long shot where she
was looking at the window that looked very much like
right of Vermere.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, and then the final scene he cross fades from
the back of her head to the front of a
Vermr and you're like, right, symbolism. You know, this is
where I smoked a cigarette in the coffee lounge, and say,
look at this shot that I did you know it was?
It was to me? So student Filmy is like, this
(10:05):
shouldn't have you know, you should have gone and taken
it to your film teacher and go what's wrong with this?
And maybe he would have said something.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I don't know, Yeah, just sort of the transactional nature
of New York.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It was.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Very much.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It was the young French actress says she wants she
misses home, she wants to go back to France, because
even if she makes it as an actress, all she'll
end up being interested in is money. So yeah, it
was definitely about kind of just and you know, you
(10:43):
set out to try to make art, but then you
end up just all your time is thinking about money.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Right, And so he's a stockbroker, So all the shots,
I mean lengthy, bloody shots of him on the phone
doing trades and stuff in a war room. And as
I told you, my roommate did a one man show
about stocked stockbroker on the floor and the New York
(11:10):
stocks changed one min that got accolades across the country,
and that would have been the same time. And if
I can't remember all the script of that thing, but
it seemed that that guy was stealing, maybe taking a
few crib notes from my roommate when he was improvising
in that room there. So again this is everything that
(11:34):
I saw from my Canadian experience, See now Canadian, that
thing was just was taken me to take the wind
out of the sales of that thing.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You know, it could have been cool too, though, if
I wasn't quite clear about the French actress and her
friend and how they were just she suddenly needed money
and did she really need the money for rent or
was she going back to France with that money. She
(12:03):
didn't seem concerned about money for a single second before
she said that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Right, because there were three of them, I don't know.
Did they kick the opera singer out?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, but it didn't even feel like they were paying
rent because they were living in this gal's dad's huge apartments.
So it was it was all very confusing thematically.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
But gosh, I am I allowed to hop in here
with a little bit of because I've listened to some
of what you said.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'll listen to the rest of it. I'm sure. While
I was gone, you sang the praises of Stephen Lack
leading man. Yes, Steve, you're a big fan of Stephen
Lack from Scanners. Scanners and if you have two eyes
and a heart, how could you not be? And I
said to you, and I know you don't like that.
You think he ripped off your roommate and stuff, and
(12:55):
it's it's been triggering for you. But as I said,
these scenes of him as a stockbroker that are just
on him, and they're long, they're long, master shots on him, single,
just seemingly improvising the most banal dialogue, so much more
(13:15):
entertaining than anything in the Wall Street movies. That's what
I would say, and I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I did like that.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
It was realistic and in a tiny, really unappealing room.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Any unappealing room, Yeah, so boiler room. Jean Jost the
filmmaker American from Chicago, of course an arts student originally
I think he had made. This was his tenth film,
is one of his last movies to be shot on
thirty five millimeter. His most recent film, He's in his eighties,
(13:49):
came out last year. He's had I think thirty four
to thirty five films since this one. Wow, So the
dude's prolific. Jean Jost, I'm gonna do a deep dive.
I'm gonna find out that's all I have for you.
But you said something that sparked this idea in me
about the transactional nature and the women. And did she
(14:12):
need the money because I always thought no, she's conning him,
conning him to get cash. But maybe she's And then
and then he's paying for a vacation for them. That's
why the roommate is going to come on, we got
to go there on a vacation. So it's just money
for a vacation. And and so I'm going to offer
(14:33):
that these moneyed people, these people that traffic in the
world of money, money, money, greed for lack of a
better term, is good in New York. They fall in
love with the art life and it ends up bleeding
them dry. Oh okay, because he's bleeding at the end
(14:59):
because of her in line saying I'm going, I'm moving
back home.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, it's not a vacation.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Because if I'm going, if I stay in as an actress,
I'll worry about his money, right, thinking about his money.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But she does move back home, yes, yeah, in the end, yes, right,
So she's going back to disappearing into the Vermeer painting.
Did we talk about that spoiler alert?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, I did that. The crossfade.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
She disappears into the painting right, which is from where
she came.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
She looked nothing like that, kind of strange looking down.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now, did you explain to me, because I'll listen to
all this later, did you explain to me the whole
long sequence at the art gallery with the artist who
needs in advance and his agent who sells it, and
the buyer who comes in, characters that are all actually
established right in in that context and then never come back.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Right, it seems like a sequel. Also, he took an
exact o knife or a utility knife and he cut
a canvas out of a frame. I assumed it was
his own canvas.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, he says it was his own canvas.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yes it was.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
But I'm saying that there were other artists on exhibit
in that gallery, and that he took his own art,
but not somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm now thinking he took somebody else's.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Oh interesting, I mean that's not a bad that's not
a bad, right.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, if he took someone else's because his isn't selling,
he can't get ten thousand dollars. He takes somebody else's
to sell so he can get his money as a
as a canvas.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's well. I think we've probably delved into this as
much as it can be.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
But I did want to say they didn't give a.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Little shout out to this was this came out in
nineteen ninety yea, so ostensibly really was an eighties film,
and I really miss eighties esthetic, true eighties aesthetic.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So many eighties.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Movies you see, not true eighties aesthetic. It's like Hollywood
eighties aesthetic. But this was like stuff I remembered from
the eighties.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Remember the Sony Lachman's Sports.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Sports, Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
And those sheets, Oh those sheets with the triangles.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Triangles and the circles.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I had that Premiere magazine with Kathleen Turner on the
cover until probably a month ago I had that. Okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Just there were There's some good fashions from the eighties
that we need to kind of integrate into this eternal
nineties coming back fashion which we've been in for fifteen
years now.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Now we are enjoying the men at the stable are enjoying.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
A cocktail.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
A Manhattan noir, what I call the Manhattan Noir, a
derivation a variation on the Manhattan that was concocted between
me and our and friend of show, John Lawler right,
singer of numerous theme songs. But people at home might
be playing their own drinking game, and if they are,
I think they would want little to say the word
(18:11):
aesthetic one more time. Aesthetic st there is not going
to be a sober person in our audience. After that,
we have another guest, Yes, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm
going to introduce him as Steve Benequist. But listeners of
(18:34):
this show, most recently, of course, know him best as
Steve the Turk. And so my first question to you, Steve,
before I get into how are you and all those niceties,
can you explain to Dean Hagland why I refer to
you as Steve the Turk.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Hey, good to see you all, you too, and maybe
not sorry I missed that movie.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Now I'm gonna take you next week.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I was busy watching all the ed Hardy's in Riverside,
another great movie.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Uh that's a different movie for you, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And that's a West Coast dump, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I didn't want to New Jersey's taking it on the
chin too many times. Riverside can take it tonight, U
I should I had it in mind. I'm like, I
need to re listen to that episode because even like
that evening. I couldn't remember I walked in. Maybe I
was calling you guys the young Turks and it just
spun around from there, or you do you know the answer.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You disask, really don't know. I mean, all I know
is I prayed to God that that episode would be
something would make sense. And I heard as much feedback
about that show as I've heard about any of recent vintage,
and it was all positive, good and we're having a
(20:04):
fun time. But but yes, at some point you just
became I don't know if you were introduced that way
of Steve the Turk, but none of us, like I
don't remember. I mean, Dean had flown on Turkish airline.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, oh you did, Yeah I did.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No, no, no, no, it was there was either it came
from someone else or I called you a bunch of
young Turks sitting around because I walked in and you
already in progress.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We were in progress, and we're always in progress again tonight.
You may have noticed they were in progress. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I had.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
This is in Denmark. This is Helson r.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You came in, Yeah, and you said, hey, look at
all these young Turks.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I think so, I don't think so well Okay, what
are my connections to Turkey other than what are the Turk?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Is there? All right?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
I have a business Tish honestly might like guy, I
see the most good friend of is in my building.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Is there a wrestler called the Turk?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh the Iron Turk Klipasha Detroit's first movie star.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh there we go.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, Klipasha was the Iron Turk in Turkey.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Probably to call someone the Turk would not to distinguish
you enough, witch Turk, Please describe the assailant in the
country of Turkey.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Did I whirl in like a dervish? Was that part
of it? No?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
You walk straight in?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
So how do you define a Turk?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well? Interesting?
Speaker 6 (21:33):
So there's the modern nation of Turkey right on the
Anatolian peninsula.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
But the modern.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Turks, uh are you know? They arrived after the the
common era began? I mean yeah, and in fact they
come from, as my Turkish friend informs me, Turkish listeners may.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or were Turkish experts. We're huge, huge where I am
adapt except that the show gets remade.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Star Wars. Yeah, yeah, there was that handsome fellow on
the podcast.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
When I was fifteen, I went to the town of
Ephesus in Turkey. Uh huh, my mother took me and my.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
You really are Steve the Turks, Like, I have no
idea why I would be called Steve the Turk Beyond
my long, very connections to both ancient and modern Turkey.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
The man I spent the most time with is Turkish.
When I was sixteen, I went to Turkey. It's my
mother is dan Bull was Constantinople.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Well, my mother's name is Ann and that's contained within
is dan Bull.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean, do you see the connection? See?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Oh my god, you tying it all together so fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm gonna just drop a plug for a great, great movie.
There's some good, seriously good movies that have come out
of Turkey. That's the crazy thing about us in our
love of Turkish Star Wars and there there were some
great movies that come out of there. One great, really
great filmmaker in particular, who made a movie called Once
upon a Time in Anatolia that is spectacular. Wow do
(23:16):
you remember that? No, God damn.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It now, but yeah, Turkey out of law where you
couldn't show us movie, so they remade all the big hits.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I just it was based on that law. I think
that is cheap direct. So when we saw Steve Beniquist last,
it was uh, well we saw him thousand miles away
at a at a dump of a castle in Denmark.
But when when when the audience last got to enjoy
(23:48):
Steve Beniquist? It was, Yes, it was at a pub
bachelor party for for Dean Hagland. Steve, you had just
come from Norway. I did, where did you go after that?
After Denmark?
Speaker 6 (24:04):
After well, after else Helsinger? I went to Copenhagen. Will
you guys? You and Litl stayed in Copenhagen, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Where it is.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yes, I saw the distances and I'm sure you had
a great experience, but I enjoyed not having to take
forty five to an hour. You know, it's a journey.
At the end, you've had you've been hanging out, you're
drinking whatever. And I also you missed out on a
bit of the weekend because it was Friday of the party.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yes, we so we it was a bit of a journey. No,
we didn't miss out on anything, so.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
They think, but we we we.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's not just the distance. It also turns out that
on the way to the wedding. We leave very early,
and then you find out, oh, well, the train doesn't
run all the way to Elsing or because there's been
a problem, there's been an electrical.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Out edge crap, first time ever.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And oh but here's the thing about Denmark. You do
get to get some insight into Denmark. We take the
train as far as it can go, and when you
get off that train, numerous buses waiting for you to
take you to your destination. No, wait at all, they're prepared.
That's great for this, even though it hadn't happened before.
(25:19):
And then not only that, and look, don't kid yourself.
We stood out a little bit because of the wardrobe
for the wedding.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh yes, oh, you are fully dressed at that point.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Your steampop, which is what made it so funny. When
this lovely young woman comes up to me and says,
excuse me, I couldn't help overhearing your conversation, I thought, well,
weren't you staring at us? I mean to begin with,
look at us? And oh my god, on copenha in
(25:52):
Copenhagen heading to the train. This is the reason you
stay in Copenhagen before that particular wedding so that people
on the street will be delighted by how you look.
We'll ask you are you all a member of some
kind of club, and I will say things like, wait,
you can see.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Us, we're from the future.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yes, or I'll or I'll ask, wait, sir, what year
is this? And then I'll move on. But this lovely
young woman, and this is Copenhagen to me, I think
this is illustrative of Copenhagen, of Denmark, of our experience
writ large. She says, I couldn't help overhearing you're going
to elsingore. Uh, don't get on these buses. They will
(26:37):
get you there. But this over here is the one
bus that makes no stops before the Sweet Express. And
there were no such announcements for that, no signs for that.
This was just one woman who knew and who was
looking out for us. She was using I. You know,
you've heard of AI.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But she was just she was intelligence. Yeah, she wasn't artificial.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I thought we were talking about what pronounce she was
and I didn't. I didn't. We didn't hang around live
me me. Yeah. Yeah, So from elsing where you went
to Copenhagen is the point of all this.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Yeah, And I'm definitely not trying to down your decision.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I enjoyed staying so close.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It was nice and and I kind of felt like
you were downing our decision.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
At one of.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
The schmucks of this situation.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
No, uh uh, but I had enough time. Also, you know,
everyone had their own constraints and other travel plans. But
so I spent four days in Copenhagen, which is spelled Hovenway.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, anyway, so.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
The way I planned the trip because you know, believe
it or not, I had been invited to another wedding
in Denmark by another old American friend, not an American
Canadian like you, but uh and.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Not old and not old he means it means a
long stile. I've known him since we were four years old.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Right later, there was a two month gap between my
wedding and his wedding.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
It's a long time to hang out in Europe for
no reason. I wanted to hobo it but I just
couldn't or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Bomb around and I was, where was that wedding?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm in Denmark?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeh, western Alborg that yes, But I just read an article,
uh yesterday right though, about great second cities in Europe
to visit. Okay, you know I'm in Chicago here famously
the second city riverside, Uh what I would pronounce our
(28:44):
Who's which is pronounced of course?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yos the double Denmark. Yes, it's the second largest city
in Denmark. It's a two and a half hour train
ride from Copenhagen on a totally different island, well far
north of Elson. Like you look at that and you go, wait,
how is that two and a half hours And you go, oh, right,
they actually have transit, but it super cool. And so
(29:10):
then we just kind of delved into watching videos about
this place or whatever. So Dean wanting to wash every
location and just call it Denmark. What can you tell
us about this other?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Well, I, oh you didn't, So if you want all
the reasons, I'll tell you. But my friend works there.
He's a college professor, but he lives in Hamburg and
makes he commutes up there, stays there for three days
a week, and comes down. So ultimately I've since I
wasn't staying there for his wedding itself, which would have
been in Denmark, I went to visit him from Copenhagen
(29:46):
to Hamburg. So I structured the trip like i'd never
been a you know, Scanninavy in my life. And I thought, okay,
I have a reason to go, so I will build
an Oslo. So I did it, just Steve Time, then
down with you for the white then mainly Steve Time
and Copenhagen. But the now adult son of that other
friend lives in Copenhagen and we met up. There's a
(30:07):
little like yeah and then uh and Hamburg was great?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
To Hamburg was great?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
So why didn't you go to the other wedding?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Because it was in May, so I would have had Ah,
it was eight weeks between the two.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
So you chose Dean. Dean's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Dean my friend will never hear this? Yes, yes, to
tell you because we happened to have him here with us,
all awkward?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Would you say that Dean is who you spend the
most amount of your time.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
With the two of them?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I just love that you defined that Turkish friend is
who you spend the most amount of time with building.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah you said that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So you said we go on walks.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, you know right, so it makes sense he spends
more time with him because.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
You on walk. What else?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Uh, lunch?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Perhaps lunch?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
We do lunch, We watch the Late Night. We go
through the YouTube and we watch We're basically two old
single guys. You hang out and we have similar political taste.
So we'll watch all the monologues.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Of the late.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, this is romance.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Watch what you call a friend?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
What's his name?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Name is six letters comprised that name, so it could
be a vanity plate. That was That was we say
in Turkey a callback that his last name is called
is translates to Steve the Turk And we're getting somewhere does.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It translates to bronze? That's right? White?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Now I believe you assembled. Yeah, you've assembled this all
to perform the game.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, we were going to do a game, but I
just you know, I like, we don't get Steve the
Turk very often, so I just wanted to like follow
up with him about I want to we must care
the listeners care about Steve the Turk.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
We are we getting feedback? Come in?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Do they?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Are you keeping us on a track or can I
ramble a bit a bit? There was a big no
King's protest today, Oh, yes, and I went to it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We were talking about this. Okay, let's just say we're
recording this on a Saturday night, Saturday the fourteenth, no
King's protests over all over what is it? A Cisquas
centennial military parade. Let's face, it was Trump's birthday party
in Washington, d C. I had a problem with the
(32:44):
no King's protest in downtown LA. Where you have La King,
you have the La Kings. Yeah, you're right, it's the
home of Lebron James the King. And now what is
it really a case of okay? Sports here? What have
you done for us? Lean? No Kings? Wow? You know what?
You're right.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
They're not in the the NHLA right now.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Lebron out in round one. I think of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So yeah, that's why we're no Kings.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
No, okay, So now it makes sense. It's not against them,
it's all there are no Kings.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There are no Kings in the playoffs. Ever so ever,
not ever more American.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
But question though, for Seve, would you say that the
man that you swound the most amount of time with
is your best friend.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm not six years old. I don't have a best friend.
His gold he's a great guy.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I think is your best friend.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
He's he's among them. That's the greatest thing.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Well, any any Turkish listener would understand. I was saying
bronze's gold, which doesn't make any sense. That sounds like
a third place finisher. You just bronze white is gold, right,
But I didn't say his last name. But if you
say bronze's gold, that's like the third place finisher, trying
to be like, ah, it's the same metals.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Your first best friend or your third best friend.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
If you could rank them, Let's just put the names
of all your friends up and just rank them.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Well, let him get married in a destination wedding and
see if I show up, let's find out.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
All right, Look, Steve, I'm sorry that got hijacked from you.
What is it? So? What is it that's so goddamn
important that you gotta say before we open the chill
pack more? It all ties into Dean actually comes.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Onto the mic. Steve onto the mic for what? Thanks
for distracting me?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
He's a professional.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah, I I was fishing around for a correct T shirts.
You know, I have a lot of band shirts. I'm like,
what am I gonna wear this pro? I don't have
any like a Trump specific, but I grabbed them. The
first T shirt I grabbed was this from my play
that I did a years ago at the Hollywood Fringe Award,
winning too many Hitlers.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I actually remember that play. Did you go and see it? Yes? Awesome?
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, And I was thinking about bringing it back actually
because that was the first year of the first Trump administration.
There were a couple of Trump references sneaked in. But
part of the driving force that got me to finish
the first draft of that was Dean was about to
move away, and I had some fantasy that I would
somehow mount of production and try to ask you to
be in the cast, remember, And it made me finish
(35:31):
the first draft before you went off to Australia fifteen.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, and you finished it, but I couldn't be in it.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
But you you attended a maybe one stage reading, a
table read or something.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
D table reader.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, but you wanting you to be part of it
helped me finish the project.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So that nothing like motivation saying I'm leaving well.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
And also that when I think of Hitler, I think
of Dean. You know, all it all goes together. I
have a story.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'm hosting a show, a live show in Los Felis
on Monday night, and feel free not to come everybody.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
And way to uninvite me, like Rand Paul to the
White House picnic.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Oh my god, and there is I'm making a Hitler
reference in it. Then I was gonna reference him as
aspiring painter. Yes, yes, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
If only they let him into art school, perhaps World
War two wouldn't happen.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
So, uh, well, that's young Hitler. That's a story of
young Hitler for sure. Sure, yeah, right, little paramount. Plus
it's going to be streaming.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Little Hitler like Hello Kitty.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, trying Timothy Shalaman the other thing. And I think
that this was a bumper sticker that little saw. Usually
we steer clear from politics. But speaking of steering, let's
talk about cars and electric cars in particular. She saw
a bumper sticker on an electric car that was not
a Tesla. Okay, and it doesn't matter what it was,
(37:01):
but the bumper sticker quite delightfully said one hundred percent electric,
zero percent Nazi.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That's good. So it wasn't German made. No celebrity deaths.
Sometimes I quiz Dan on these, we're doing a true
game show format on these, I'm going to be assigning points.
I expect each of you to remember the point total
that I give you, because it will be both random, creative,
(37:29):
and possibly delightful aesthetic. I think I'm already like a thousand,
Is that right? Yeah? If you tell me, I'm I'm
expecting we operate on the honor systems to hear Steve
the Turk all.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Right, I already have one point.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He played. He played the angry Judge in Ghostbusters Too.
Do we remember the angry Judge and Ghostbusters Too? Who
needs the Ghostbusters to save his ass when he gets
so angry that he activates the ectoplasm that's on display.
(38:10):
He died of a cardiac arrest in New York City
at the age of eighty seven. He uh. He played
one hundred and fifty roles in his career, made appearances
in Scarface, In Training, Day, Star Trek, Deep Space nine, Ooh, ooh,
no it. He earned an Emmy Award nomination in nineteen
(38:30):
ninety six for his appearance on the sitcom Frasier.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Oh John Malkovich, I really thought.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
John Malcovitch is increer. You get one point one point
making an offer? What year did he die? At the
age of eighty seven? This year? This year? These are
all recent years ago. So he was June tenth he died. Uh,
can we do we get a hint? Can we can?
I ask his nationality?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
How many?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
How many I've given you? I've given you all his
all his credits. Oh, by the way, he appeared on
an episode of The.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
X Files, What which one?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
He also was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Law and Order,
Deep Ozark, many others not Jerry Harden. His name was
Harris Eulen. This guy, you know that, this guy who
did you an Emmy? Because I love Fraser and I've
(39:40):
seen them all, he did not get I thought for
sure the Ghostbusters two people come on.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
For me it was the Fraser because Ghostbusters two is
pretty hard to watch, all right, lil, Here's let alone remember,
all right, lil.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Not that we've prediscussed this at all. Here's the second.
Uh celebrity a former m t v v J who
hosted Total Request Live before leaving the network to launch
her own show. I just saw this June eleventh, at
the age of fifty two, Ananda. I knew the first
(40:13):
name as well, but I didn't know. Do you know
the last name?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Is it Wilson Lewis It is Lewis Lewis Lewis Andando Lewis.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You get to split five points to.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Point two point five?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
What are you? What are you at?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Three five?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I am at don't tell her five point five? I
said aesthetic twice. Now I have six points.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Dean is correct. It's three point five two points to Dean, yeah,
and two and a half to Steve.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Ben on the board, Dean, because he did the math.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
He's accurate math. He accurately counted your point to This is.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
The worst game show I've ever been on, and I've
been on good game shows.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Really, I've been on game shows.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That is four points to you. Mil So you're at
seven and a half, Dee Fast two, Steve the Turk
two and a half. I really should speak up an
aesthetic esthetic.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Dean also has two points. I just accurately said his total. No, okay,
I rise up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
So.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
This actor played doctor Rick Weber during the height of
a long running daytime dramas Popularity.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The actor was named Chris Robinson. The character was doctor
Rick Weber. Should be doctor Richard. If your doctor should
be Richard Rick Rick, doctor, I'm cutting a half point
for you, interrupted he died in his sleep June ninth,
much like our listeners at the age of eighty six,
(41:59):
what long running soap operated? Chris Robinson star on as
doctor Rick Webber General Hospital, General Hospital. You get the
half point back, all right?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I was going to say the bold.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
And Beautiful for I was going to say Days of
our Lives.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
They're all canceled.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Okay, I was going to say General Hospital. Oh wait wait,
all right, now is the part where we get to
find out what you would have said? Okay, past that
part of the show. Hey, sly Stone of sly and
the Family Stone. In other news, sly Stone was still alive. Yeah,
(42:37):
that's crazy. Like I went to see a show that
he was going to be headlining in early nineties and
dude never showed up. What that was his? Because like
early nineties, you think, wait, sly Stone is still around.
(42:57):
Why is he not the biggest deal like Prince and
so many others. Yeah, like oh Prince said to him, yeah,
good if you believe you don't get a point if
you believe that. But I saw but so yeah that
was Slidestone's m and but I was wondering that when
I went to the show, was like why is he
not still a huge deal that he was one of
(43:18):
the most talented people, sliestone, So.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
He just didn't like I was gonna say, Steve, Well,
two things. I saw him live in two thousand and six.
Oh and he did show up, and it was a
great show. But he was old enough and tired enough
that I noticed halfway through the show a poorly intentionally
poorly lit backup singer, a young man doing most of
the heavy lifting for his vocals. But another thing, is
(43:45):
he washed out so early, Like drugs really got the
better of him in the mid seventies and he already
was struggling. There's an appearance you can find on Letterman's
show from eighty three where he's already trying to make
a comeback, and they addressed it the interview. Letterman says, Now,
you were kind of notorious for not showing up. He says,
but I'm going to show up now. And it's a
beautiful performance. He does a couple of the great hits
(44:07):
from the early seventies, and he has all the power,
and uh.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You wonder how much the presence of Paul Schaeffer actually
Goose helped make that possible. Totally possible. Okay, what did
he die of? Age of eighty two? What did he
die of? Sly Stone? Blimp accident, natural causes? Oh, my goodness,
(44:31):
he stopped breathing. Those are both incorrect. Okay, what did
he die of? Dean Hagland, You control the board right,
Uh stubbed toe? He died of it says he died
in long Los Angeles after a long battle with copd breathing.
(44:54):
All I can take that to mean is the Colorado
Police Department had a long battle with the Colorado Police Department. Okay,
but that was only Fordio. That was only for ships
and giggles. The quiz question is sly in the family
Stone's best song? Go who has it?
Speaker 6 (45:12):
I love k Sara Sarah, which is a cover but
they take it away from being a a waltz and
he does it?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You know, No, it's amazing. It's amazing. What it what
it does? It? As it gains in being obscure, it
loses in being wrong. Answer. Oh okay, okay, Dean litl
best song by sly Stone. Uh funk my carpet that
might not exist? It does not exist, that's it, but
it should exist. It gets two points, Lil.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
The one that goes dun dum dum dum dum dum
dum dum dum dum.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
The greatest title of any song ever.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Wait, this is a subjective answer.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
No, no, no, no, no, not at all. This is
I mean, this is sign thank you for let me
be the wordplay and it's a great song. It's so
the title is thank you parentheses, next word fletting me,
next word be, next word mice like more than one,
next word, next word again, thank you, thank you for
(46:21):
let me be myself again. And it is a great song.
I'm giving five to Steve the Turkey knew that, but.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
He saw the concert.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
He saw the concert or I saw Woodstock the.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Movie when I was a kid, and that his section
of that spoke to me the most I loved I
want to Take You Higher.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I was jumping for Woodstock.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Bowser, Bowser, I wanted to be Bowser. Brian Wilson Brian
Wilson was one of the founding members of The Beach Boys.
Yes he's a songwriter during the band's most prolific and
may say jeler period. He died at the age of
eighty two. Was born in Inglewood, California. What I Want
(47:14):
to know is because this guy. I don't use the
word genius often, thank you. That has nothing to do
with this. But Brian Wilson, what I'm looking for is no,
he was. He was a seminal figure in music. We
(47:34):
were talking about this today. The BBC ten years ago
did a poll of musical acts and his what is
It God only knows? Was beautiful the greatest song of
all time. Most interesting tidbit or fact about Brian Wilson.
And I don't have a predesigned answer on this. I
(47:56):
just want each of you to share an answer with me,
and whoever's best will happily pick up the keys to
their brand new buick. Okay, I really like.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
That he just knew nothing about surfing.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
That is a good one. He didn't he he never served.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
He knew nothing about it.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
He was very enthusiastic about writing surfing songs, but he
didn't feel the need.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
He never served. He didn't have a lad.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
He served. He never didn't know a thing about it.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Oh, please helicopters. Uh, here's an interesting fact about Brian Wilson.
In the sixties. Uh, he was hanging out in a
funky hippie commune and one of the super cool residents
Charles Manson. Him and Charles Manson were kind of palli pally. Huh.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
There is also him.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Was he when he did that twenty whatever?
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Because didn't he make it when he was like a teenager?
I mean they were teenagers famous.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
But Charles Manson was hanging out and there was like
this super cool commune out by uh Will Roger's Ranch
or something like that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Manson really got around. Manson got around man Cato Kalin.
But if he turned into a psychopathic.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Wait was that ranch?
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Was that the ranch that Tarantino depicted in Once Upon
a Ranch?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Was it not the movie making ranch but spawn ranch?
But that was kind of a thing. There there was
a ranch that all the singers, Brian Wilson was there,
Charles Manson was there.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Uh, there is going to be a Manson reference also
in my show on Monday. Now, Oh look at that
Benson Anitler. You gotta exactly. And I bring this all
ages show and bring them together. I do because my
grandfather together.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Again.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
My grandfather lived in a small town on a lake
in Washington called Manson. And I was born in nineteen
sixty eight, so I'm a little boy and even I
think it's weird then that, like you, you haven't changed
the name of this town. It was like, well, and
I'm wondering whether news of it had even made it
up there. And I just have always liked to believe
that someone someone at a town meeting at some point suggested,
(50:15):
should we think, I know it's name for so many
different but should we change the name. And people said, well,
we appreciate your point of view, but branding is difficult.
The year is nineteen seventy three. It's heard we don't
have Thomas guides. People have learned how to get to Manson,
they know to make it to the lake, to drive
(50:37):
through Hitler.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
So that's my interesting brand.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
That's a very good one, all right, Steve the Turk,
do you have an interesting Brian Wilson.
Speaker 6 (50:49):
Well, I think, following the rule of threes, that his
genius proves that having an abusive stage father will make
a genius somewhere in the in the in your coterie
of kids, in your in your litter. Uh yeah, being
a cruel and so that is sad. You can have
(51:10):
it is worse art. You can have more mediocre art
if you're kind to all the children.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
And there's a rare recording of them doing uh his
father Murray, father Murray, yelling at all of them in
a recording session, but in beautiful harmony. No no, father
didn't sing oh no no, well it was. It's a
terrible thing you can find on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
That's off.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Yeah, just yelling at all the kids while they're trying
to record.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
That's a depressing no. I I okay, my fun fact, Okay,
I'm not playing, I'm just uh, my fun fact is
he was a member of a band, the Beach Boys
called the Mountain Boys that would one day count as
its drummer, John Stamos. That's my fun that's right.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
I heard that, and John Stamos can play the drums.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
And you were with me and I think we were
podcasting when I got a text from Stamos saying because
I had met with him about some project, and he
texted me saying, I'm drumming with the boys tonight at
the Greek. The Boys meaning the Beach Boys too cool
(52:24):
to say the whole band. So I'm drumming with the
Boys at the Greek tonight, Dash Stamos, I mean reach
the crash symbol.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Do you have that card? And can we print that out?
Speaker 1 (52:43):
And I have and we have. Uh So I loved
all this. Assign yourself whatever amount of points you want.
One for me, I'm gonna subtract five from me.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
I'm gonna go into the red. I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Plus removed too.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
We're enjoying all this alright. Well, then we'll keep going
straight up until celebrities died, straight on until morning. I
have another like sixteen that we could do, but I'm
gonna pick this one because this actor had kind of
just for some reason, my favorite name of any actor.
He he did eighteen different Perry Mason.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
TV movie I Love Perry Mason.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
He performed opposite Clint Eastwood in four of Eastwood's movie Oh.
He was a US Army soldier during the Korean War.
Was caught in an ambush, left for dead. But was
he and just one other soldier survived. Yeah, he was not.
(53:48):
But because the military records were lost, he was not
awarded a Purple Heartness Star until two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
Damn oh, thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
After the war, he briefly wrote music with Otis Redday
before turning to acting.
Speaker 5 (54:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
And he portrayed as I said in Perry Mason Lieutenant
Brock in eighteen productions, played opposite Eastwood in Coogan's Bluff
play Misty for Me every which way but loose and
sudden impact, other popular words.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
He's the ape from Everyone's Loose. Oh right, I think
that has to get cut out. We're gonna have protests
around the studio. What in the there was an ape
that was the costar.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Also, you're getting into real chick Hern territory right now,
I am do you. I don't get that. You don't
get that reference. No, well, I know who chick Hern
was the announcer for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (54:46):
Yeah, just to look at him hanging up there on
the rim like a monkey. I don't know the race
of this person. I was just making a everyone.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
But now you do know reaction you don't know? Okay, anyways, okay,
Asian popular work, uh all in the Family Colombo Murder,
she wrote Hill Street Blues, many others. What's this actor's name? Right?
She's right? You know, she's right.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
I know this actor because his trapezius muscles and he
had this hunch and he's like, Perry you how how
did you get to this crime scene?
Speaker 1 (55:23):
How did you know?
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Like he's always the uh the uhaler. No, he's the
the Inspector General or whatever from the LAPD and he
like comes to the crime scenes, goes Perry, what how
did you get here? Like this is like it's so
funny every time. Yeah, like yeah, well, how'd you know?
How'd you know this was a murder?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Like he was always That's Dean's answer. El Robison not
not bad. At least you named a black actor of
of of August stature, even though he's about fifty years
too early. I always liked this guy's name. James mckeechon
one of my favorite names interest ever any actor James McKeith,
(56:04):
I mean son of Keechen. Someone somewhere was named keitchin.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Are they still Firing Downtown?
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I also love I really love this guy. He was
one of the god the Three, the Three Villains, the
three Hench villains who were like gods of different like
powers in Big Trouble in Little China. Oh, he was
(56:32):
the Elemental Master Reign. From that, he was in such
other cult classics as Gleaming the Cube. He died in
his sleep that a skateboarding movie. It was Yeah, May
twenty seventh, at the age of seventy three. He appeared
in so many shows of the era. Greatest American hero
(56:53):
the eighteen Dynasty, Miami Vice mcgiver, very very uh important member. Uh,
an inspirational member of the Asian American Pacific Islander community
here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
Not Stephen Wong.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Who was he? No, Uh, you are correct, not Stephen Wong.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
I got that right.
Speaker 6 (57:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
Okay. What was that guy's name, because I know it. James,
Not James Wong.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
James Hong was was a low pan uhh.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Okay, Yeah, but who in Blade Runner is like, I
made your eyes James Hong.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
So, but we are looking for It's not far off.
We're looking for Peter Kwang.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
People.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
What I was so touched by was just reading the remembrances.
This guy was supposedly just one of the real gents. Well,
you know what.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
I went to the million Dollar Theater on you know,
a few blocks from your home. Yes, I'm on Broadway
and uh for a screening of Big Trouble Little China,
which is one of those amazing eighties gems speaking of
eighties movies and design and production quality.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
I love that film.
Speaker 7 (58:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
I think he was there. There were there were several
people from the cast.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Wow. Yeah, And they introduced it in there on stage.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Mm hm.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
They did Q and I afterwards, and there was a
guy in the audience who was like, I was an
extra in it. Don't tell me he died.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
I won't. I won't tell you. Please all right, So
I hope you've been keeping track of your points. Last
this is the last one. Here we go. Enso Styola
was a child actor who starred in what all time
masterpiece Eno Bicycle Thieves, Holy Jesus, right out of the top.
Speaker 6 (58:51):
What because it's you as an Italian name, and it's
the one, the most famous one with a child actor
that I.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Could think of. Steve the Turk, Steve the Turk, He's
bizarre in Victorio de Seku's near realistic He died June
fourth in Italy at the age of eighty five to
Seka Sam on the street and thought his large, expressive
(59:21):
eyes there be the perfect for the part. Despite the
young Stiola having no acting experience, it resulted in a
film that just two years later was named the best
film of all time in Sight and Sound just two
years after its release atop the Sitan sound pool. Fifty
years later, it is still ranked in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (59:45):
Congratulations to it.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yes, and to Steve the Turk for how many that's
a fifty point?
Speaker 4 (59:52):
That was a fifty point That was a fifty point question.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Well, no, you know what the point point question is. Uh, oh,
we got one more. I'll let I'll let that have
a chance to tie Steve the Turk. Whoever gets this right,
tie Steve the Turk and we have we have a
like I don't know what. So just there's one loser death,
there's some Can it be a.
Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Fifty three point because I gave myself negative three.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
One? Name another famous film that Stiola appeared in eight
and a half.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Oh, that's pretty good. Amicard the Karate Kid.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
You both went Felini. You will both want Italian?
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
No lesson zero.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Star Wars, which way we lose?
Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oddly enough? Does describe both your.
Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Scores fifty fifty as I could find, as far as
I could find.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
He made one other really famous film, and it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Was Gordon Levitt.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Gordon five hundred Days of Sumner.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
That's what I was trying to think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Sum War movie.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Fort Sumter really.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Good, that's half the war. They were Stephen Sagall who
played Stephen in Five Under pictures Stephen and the kid
from the bicycle. Deep. Oh my god, what agreed? That's me? Great? Okay,
(01:01:35):
we're gonna have to do it all over. We're gonna
have to shut this down so that I can tell
you my Stephen Sagall story. Gotta does anybody care? That ends? O?
Styola also starred in The Barefoot Contessa with Ava Gardner.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
That would have been my thirty fourth answer as what what?
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
What was his? Why? The kids? All right? This somebody
stole my bicycle.
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
This is yes, I stole my socks, breadsticks, My socks
is stolen.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
My socks are barefoot. Somebody stole my pinch, my perfect casa.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Why people do it? To Giuseppe? Why is the stealing
of the stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
We did not get your own socks.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Somebody's stelling my coupe?
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Why you do that? I'm the barefoot Contessa with those socks.
GIUSEPPI you ester you're gonna wear the shoes?
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Oh my god?
Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
All right, this has been your chill back, Holly. Whatever
we get everybody, we'll do better. Do you want one
little moment to happen on air?
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I'm gonna publicly return a spoon to you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Swinging a miss. This is nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
That's interesting because at least twice a night with one
of the people on this page, I exchange spoon. Yes,
we had.
Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
Barbecue at your place downtown and you sent me home
with some leftovers and you left a spoon from your
It's a big spoon. It's like a serving spoon. Here's
the thing that he needs it back. Here's the thing
that sucks about this. Can you carry that on? Or
am I going to It's not a weapon. You're gonna
scoop someone's eyes out.
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Belated spoiler alert
From a secret location somewhere in America.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is your chill Pack, Hollywood Out Your Chill Pack,
Hollywood Hour with Dean Hagland and Phil Lareness.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Hey, we're recording, everybody. We're rooftop, We're high atop. The
historic core of Los felis a historic It's really kind
of a town in the center of a big city.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
US small town, a village, a village of.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
A walkable village, forty thousand people of a village, a
village of forty thousand people who when it comes to
the idea of letting an apex predator room free on
the streets, we're a okay with that. It's lost feelings.
This is your chill Pack, Hollywood Hour, Year nineteen, Episode
(01:02):
one hundred sixty.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
It keeps on getting.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
It's a gift.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
The voice you're hearing that keeps on giving.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The voices you're hearing across the table from me are
in order of you hearing them. TV's Dean Hagland here
in the city of angels Yay, Los Angeles, California, and
my wife, actress rock On Tour Podiatrist to the.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Stars, Rocky Road.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
That was my preferred thirty one flavor. Dean keeps trying
to just say what I'm saying at the same time, anything.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
And human echo, and I say it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Rocky Road was also your burlesque name.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Thirty one Flavors choice as a child, Welcome. My name
is Lily Holloman aka Lily Lareness.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Aka Lil Lil.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I like Lily, I did too.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's good.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I wanted to be my vanity plate.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It was taken. I can't imagine.
Speaker 5 (02:07):
No, I don't think it is. I I haven't looked
into it yet.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
So do we remember the wonderful musician and actress Denise
Matthews I think was her real name, but she was
famous the world over? Is vanity protege of Prince? Please
tell me vanity had to vanity plate? And what would
that vanity plate be?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
I mean, and I t why.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
A star?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
No, I thought it's seven? Is it not?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, it's like a phone number or wrong at six.
Maybe it's perfect.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And so let's start a camp entertainment. Look, here's what
we're setting up. And I'm setting this conversation up so
that quite frankly, I can put my mic down, close
the channel and go and bring up our other August
guest who will be the three of us just went
(03:04):
to the American Cinematech at the Los Phelis three. Thanks
for joining us, Dean, thank you. We established that we
were going to do this. I think on last week's
show we talked about this and the movie was every
bit is perplexing on so many levels as I expected
it to be. What I did not expect and what
you are quite judgmental about is I enjoyed. I enjoyed
(03:28):
every moment of it. I loved looking at this thing.
I loved the sound design, really love it. If we
can say that it was designed, I don't know, because
everything that you kind of besmirched it with. But with
the big brush of like student film, I was like, oh,
this is like a student film. So anyway, look there
(03:53):
was a retrospective of Jean Jost and anyway, we saw
this film all the vermirs in New York. And what's
going to happen now, and I'm gonna listen to it later,
is the two of you are going to explain why
the hell happened in that movie?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Okay, So the first problem, I have.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
A problem to say what the movie is about? Can
tell what happens in it before you disparaging it because.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I can explain. I can explain.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I read the description of it.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Having seen it, I understand it less.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Now let me give us the synopsis.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Okay. So I'm somewhere between you and Phil. I think it.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
I think it deserves more credit than you're giving it
and less than he is.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Okay, but I need that kind of baseline. Okay.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
So my take on the film was it follows basically
two people, but it misleads you into thinking it's gonna
follow a few more. But there's two people, and the
general theme of the movie is art and connection and
(05:14):
creativity versus commerce and how they cannot meet. And so
there's a man who works on Wall Street who goes
to try to find his soul in this for mirror
gallery at the met and sees a woman much younger
(05:37):
woman than he, which isn't addressed, that's true, and he
gives her his number, and it's all very transactional. Every
interaction between them is transactional. She barely speaks, He speaks
(05:57):
to her, He talks about how beautiful she is. He
basically monologues at this young French actress and her big
point of connection with him was I need money for
the rent.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, and he's the three thousand dollars.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
So I think this is the theme because we also
have this artist that comes in that needs ten thousand
dollars who we never see again.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And then there's the woman who wants to buy his work,
and then the gallery dealer says, oh, I already have
that one. You can't have it, like so she there.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Was a different artist's work. I think she was trying.
I think it it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Was weren't that guy in the I think so, Oh
my god. Really I thought that was the whole point
of that whole scene. Is that that was because he
took a knife and he took one of his own
paintings that he was going to fix. Was he stealing
somebody else's artwork in that scene?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
No, No, he was.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
I thought his work was like somewhere else in the gallery.
It was a little confusing.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Really confusing. So I'm not pleased.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
So it's definitely, yeah, it's definitely. Everything was in an
effort to talk about art versus commerce and how they
don't really come together.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
So I went to a Canadian university in the eighties
into the nineties in the arts program, theater, dance, film,
and visual arts, right, yeah, I took all of them, okay.
And in the film department there was this idea of
(07:44):
the frame being that of a moving piece of visual art,
so that you're not actually capturing a performance. You're not capturing,
but you are trying to create a painting that has time,
so it's a painting plus time, right, So a lot
(08:04):
of these paintings, like I said, this woman who won
first place in my senior year for her film, she
basically put a tripod on the back of a BC
fairy and just filmed the wake of the faery through
the ocean and then just did a monologue about her
dad died and it just was I guess it was hypnotic.
(08:25):
I guess it was emostly compelling, but it was dullest
toast and it was just one shot. It was one
shot that went on for seven minutes. Much like this
film had. There were very long shots the New York Skyline,
for instance, scenes where you just him and her on
the couch, just slowly scanning back and forth and going
(08:47):
beyond the back of their heads so you could see
some of the sculpture pieces that he had in his apartment,
slowly back and forth, and there was no dynamic tension.
There was no arc of an arc you know how
every scene should have an arc. Right, Oh, that was
flattened out. This was all flattened out. And I guess
(09:07):
like a amir it's flattened right. I mean you got
some depth, but basically all Vmir's are at a window
that light sideways and then your subject is there. He
basically had the same studio lighting for almost all his paintings. Right,
this was the same thing. Almost all the same shots
were almost all the same lighting, all the same Vimir angles. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
They He definitely had some specific references to Vermire paintings
in the shots. He had one long shot where she
was looking at the window that looked very much like
right of Vermere.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, and then the final scene he cross fades from
the back of her head to the front of a
Vermr and you're like, right, symbolism. You know, this is
where I smoked a cigarette in the coffee lounge, and say,
look at this shot that I did you know it was?
It was to me? So student Filmy is like, this
(10:05):
shouldn't have you know, you should have gone and taken
it to your film teacher and go what's wrong with this?
And maybe he would have said something.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
I don't know, Yeah, just sort of the transactional nature
of New York.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
It was.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Very much.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It was the young French actress says she wants she
misses home, she wants to go back to France, because
even if she makes it as an actress, all she'll
end up being interested in is money. So yeah, it
was definitely about kind of just and you know, you
(10:43):
set out to try to make art, but then you
end up just all your time is thinking about money.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Right, And so he's a stockbroker, So all the shots,
I mean lengthy, bloody shots of him on the phone
doing trades and stuff in a war room. And as
I told you, my roommate did a one man show
about stocked stockbroker on the floor and the New York
(11:10):
stocks changed one min that got accolades across the country,
and that would have been the same time. And if
I can't remember all the script of that thing, but
it seemed that that guy was stealing, maybe taking a
few crib notes from my roommate when he was improvising
in that room there. So again this is everything that
(11:34):
I saw from my Canadian experience, See now Canadian, that
thing was just was taken me to take the wind
out of the sales of that thing.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
You know, it could have been cool too, though, if
I wasn't quite clear about the French actress and her
friend and how they were just she suddenly needed money
and did she really need the money for rent or
was she going back to France with that money. She
(12:03):
didn't seem concerned about money for a single second before
she said that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Right, because there were three of them, I don't know.
Did they kick the opera singer out?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Yeah, but it didn't even feel like they were paying
rent because they were living in this gal's dad's huge apartments.
So it was it was all very confusing thematically.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
But gosh, I am I allowed to hop in here
with a little bit of because I've listened to some
of what you said.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'll listen to the rest of it. I'm sure. While
I was gone, you sang the praises of Stephen Lack
leading man. Yes, Steve, you're a big fan of Stephen
Lack from Scanners. Scanners and if you have two eyes
and a heart, how could you not be? And I
said to you, and I know you don't like that.
You think he ripped off your roommate and stuff, and
(12:55):
it's it's been triggering for you. But as I said,
these scenes of him as a stockbroker that are just
on him, and they're long, they're long, master shots on him, single,
just seemingly improvising the most banal dialogue, so much more
(13:15):
entertaining than anything in the Wall Street movies. That's what
I would say, and I got it.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I did like that.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
It was realistic and in a tiny, really unappealing room.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Any unappealing room, Yeah, so boiler room. Jean Jost the
filmmaker American from Chicago, of course an arts student originally
I think he had made. This was his tenth film,
is one of his last movies to be shot on
thirty five millimeter. His most recent film, He's in his eighties,
(13:49):
came out last year. He's had I think thirty four
to thirty five films since this one. Wow, So the
dude's prolific. Jean Jost, I'm gonna do a deep dive.
I'm gonna find out that's all I have for you.
But you said something that sparked this idea in me
about the transactional nature and the women. And did she
(14:12):
need the money because I always thought no, she's conning him,
conning him to get cash. But maybe she's And then
and then he's paying for a vacation for them. That's
why the roommate is going to come on, we got
to go there on a vacation. So it's just money
for a vacation. And and so I'm going to offer
(14:33):
that these moneyed people, these people that traffic in the
world of money, money, money, greed for lack of a
better term, is good in New York. They fall in
love with the art life and it ends up bleeding
them dry. Oh okay, because he's bleeding at the end
(14:59):
because of her in line saying I'm going, I'm moving
back home.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, it's not a vacation.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Because if I'm going, if I stay in as an actress,
I'll worry about his money, right, thinking about his money.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
But she does move back home, yes, yeah, in the end, yes, right,
So she's going back to disappearing into the Vermeer painting.
Did we talk about that spoiler alert?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, I did that. The crossfade.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
She disappears into the painting right, which is from where
she came.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
She looked nothing like that, kind of strange looking down.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Now, did you explain to me, because I'll listen to
all this later, did you explain to me the whole
long sequence at the art gallery with the artist who
needs in advance and his agent who sells it, and
the buyer who comes in, characters that are all actually
established right in in that context and then never come back.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Right, it seems like a sequel. Also, he took an
exact o knife or a utility knife and he cut
a canvas out of a frame. I assumed it was
his own canvas.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, he says it was his own canvas.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yes it was.
Speaker 5 (16:12):
But I'm saying that there were other artists on exhibit
in that gallery, and that he took his own art,
but not somebody else's.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I'm now thinking he took somebody else's.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
Oh interesting, I mean that's not a bad that's not
a bad, right.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, if he took someone else's because his isn't selling,
he can't get ten thousand dollars. He takes somebody else's
to sell so he can get his money as a
as a canvas.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
That's well. I think we've probably delved into this as
much as it can be.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
But I did want to say they didn't give a.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Little shout out to this was this came out in
nineteen ninety yea, so ostensibly really was an eighties film,
and I really miss eighties esthetic, true eighties aesthetic.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
So many eighties.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Movies you see, not true eighties aesthetic. It's like Hollywood
eighties aesthetic. But this was like stuff I remembered from
the eighties.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Remember the Sony Lachman's Sports.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Sports, Yeah, there was.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
And those sheets, Oh those sheets with the triangles.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Triangles and the circles.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I had that Premiere magazine with Kathleen Turner on the
cover until probably a month ago I had that. Okay, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Just there were There's some good fashions from the eighties
that we need to kind of integrate into this eternal
nineties coming back fashion which we've been in for fifteen
years now.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Now we are enjoying the men at the stable are enjoying.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
A cocktail.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
A Manhattan noir, what I call the Manhattan Noir, a
derivation a variation on the Manhattan that was concocted between
me and our and friend of show, John Lawler right,
singer of numerous theme songs. But people at home might
be playing their own drinking game, and if they are,
I think they would want little to say the word
(18:11):
aesthetic one more time. Aesthetic st there is not going
to be a sober person in our audience. After that,
we have another guest, Yes, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm
going to introduce him as Steve Benequist. But listeners of
(18:34):
this show, most recently, of course, know him best as
Steve the Turk. And so my first question to you, Steve,
before I get into how are you and all those niceties,
can you explain to Dean Hagland why I refer to
you as Steve the Turk.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Hey, good to see you all, you too, and maybe
not sorry I missed that movie.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Now I'm gonna take you next week.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I was busy watching all the ed Hardy's in Riverside,
another great movie.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Uh that's a different movie for you, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
And that's a West Coast dump, you know.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
I didn't want to New Jersey's taking it on the
chin too many times. Riverside can take it tonight, U
I should I had it in mind. I'm like, I
need to re listen to that episode because even like
that evening. I couldn't remember I walked in. Maybe I
was calling you guys the young Turks and it just
spun around from there, or you do you know the answer.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
You disask, really don't know. I mean, all I know
is I prayed to God that that episode would be
something would make sense. And I heard as much feedback
about that show as I've heard about any of recent vintage,
and it was all positive, good and we're having a
(20:04):
fun time. But but yes, at some point you just
became I don't know if you were introduced that way
of Steve the Turk, but none of us, like I
don't remember. I mean, Dean had flown on Turkish airline.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, oh you did, Yeah I did.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
No, no, no, no, it was there was either it came
from someone else or I called you a bunch of
young Turks sitting around because I walked in and you
already in progress.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
We were in progress, and we're always in progress again tonight.
You may have noticed they were in progress. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I had.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
This is in Denmark. This is Helson r.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
You came in, Yeah, and you said, hey, look at
all these young Turks.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I think so, I don't think so well Okay, what
are my connections to Turkey other than what are the Turk?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Is there? All right?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
I have a business Tish honestly might like guy, I
see the most good friend of is in my building.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Is there a wrestler called the Turk?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh the Iron Turk Klipasha Detroit's first movie star.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Oh there we go.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, yeah, Klipasha was the Iron Turk in Turkey.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Probably to call someone the Turk would not to distinguish
you enough, witch Turk, Please describe the assailant in the
country of Turkey.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Did I whirl in like a dervish? Was that part
of it? No?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
You walk straight in?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
So how do you define a Turk?
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Well? Interesting?
Speaker 6 (21:33):
So there's the modern nation of Turkey right on the
Anatolian peninsula.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
But the modern.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Turks, uh are you know? They arrived after the the
common era began? I mean yeah, and in fact they
come from, as my Turkish friend informs me, Turkish listeners may.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Or were Turkish experts. We're huge, huge where I am
adapt except that the show gets remade.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Star Wars. Yeah, yeah, there was that handsome fellow on
the podcast.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
When I was fifteen, I went to the town of
Ephesus in Turkey. Uh huh, my mother took me and my.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
You really are Steve the Turks, Like, I have no
idea why I would be called Steve the Turk Beyond
my long, very connections to both ancient and modern Turkey.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
The man I spent the most time with is Turkish.
When I was sixteen, I went to Turkey. It's my
mother is dan Bull was Constantinople.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Well, my mother's name is Ann and that's contained within
is dan Bull.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I mean, do you see the connection? See?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Oh my god, you tying it all together so fantastic.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm gonna just drop a plug for a great, great movie.
There's some good, seriously good movies that have come out
of Turkey. That's the crazy thing about us in our
love of Turkish Star Wars and there there were some
great movies that come out of there. One great, really
great filmmaker in particular, who made a movie called Once
upon a Time in Anatolia that is spectacular. Wow do
(23:16):
you remember that? No, God damn.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
It now, but yeah, Turkey out of law where you
couldn't show us movie, so they remade all the big hits.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I just it was based on that law. I think
that is cheap direct. So when we saw Steve Beniquist last,
it was uh, well we saw him thousand miles away
at a at a dump of a castle in Denmark.
But when when when the audience last got to enjoy
(23:48):
Steve Beniquist? It was, Yes, it was at a pub
bachelor party for for Dean Hagland. Steve, you had just
come from Norway. I did, where did you go after that?
After Denmark?
Speaker 6 (24:04):
After well, after else Helsinger? I went to Copenhagen. Will
you guys? You and Litl stayed in Copenhagen, right, that's.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Where it is.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yes, I saw the distances and I'm sure you had
a great experience, but I enjoyed not having to take
forty five to an hour. You know, it's a journey.
At the end, you've had you've been hanging out, you're
drinking whatever. And I also you missed out on a
bit of the weekend because it was Friday of the party.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yes, we so we it was a bit of a journey. No,
we didn't miss out on anything, so.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
They think, but we we we.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's not just the distance. It also turns out that
on the way to the wedding. We leave very early,
and then you find out, oh, well, the train doesn't
run all the way to Elsing or because there's been
a problem, there's been an electrical.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Out edge crap, first time ever.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And oh but here's the thing about Denmark. You do
get to get some insight into Denmark. We take the
train as far as it can go, and when you
get off that train, numerous buses waiting for you to
take you to your destination. No, wait at all, they're prepared.
That's great for this, even though it hadn't happened before.
(25:19):
And then not only that, and look, don't kid yourself.
We stood out a little bit because of the wardrobe
for the wedding.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
Oh yes, oh, you are fully dressed at that point.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Your steampop, which is what made it so funny. When
this lovely young woman comes up to me and says,
excuse me, I couldn't help overhearing your conversation, I thought, well,
weren't you staring at us? I mean to begin with,
look at us? And oh my god, on copenha in
(25:52):
Copenhagen heading to the train. This is the reason you
stay in Copenhagen before that particular wedding so that people
on the street will be delighted by how you look.
We'll ask you are you all a member of some
kind of club, and I will say things like, wait,
you can see.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Us, we're from the future.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yes, or I'll or I'll ask, wait, sir, what year
is this? And then I'll move on. But this lovely
young woman, and this is Copenhagen to me, I think
this is illustrative of Copenhagen, of Denmark, of our experience
writ large. She says, I couldn't help overhearing you're going
to elsingore. Uh, don't get on these buses. They will
(26:37):
get you there. But this over here is the one
bus that makes no stops before the Sweet Express. And
there were no such announcements for that, no signs for that.
This was just one woman who knew and who was
looking out for us. She was using I. You know,
you've heard of AI.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
But she was just she was intelligence. Yeah, she wasn't artificial.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
No.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I thought we were talking about what pronounce she was
and I didn't. I didn't. We didn't hang around live
me me. Yeah. Yeah, So from elsing where you went
to Copenhagen is the point of all this.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Yeah, And I'm definitely not trying to down your decision.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I enjoyed staying so close.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It was nice and and I kind of felt like
you were downing our decision.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
At one of.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
The schmucks of this situation.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
No, uh uh, but I had enough time. Also, you know,
everyone had their own constraints and other travel plans. But
so I spent four days in Copenhagen, which is spelled Hovenway.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, anyway, so.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
The way I planned the trip because you know, believe
it or not, I had been invited to another wedding
in Denmark by another old American friend, not an American
Canadian like you, but uh and.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Not old and not old he means it means a
long stile. I've known him since we were four years old.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Right later, there was a two month gap between my
wedding and his wedding.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
It's a long time to hang out in Europe for
no reason. I wanted to hobo it but I just
couldn't or whatever.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Bomb around and I was, where was that wedding?
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I'm in Denmark?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeh, western Alborg that yes, But I just read an article,
uh yesterday right though, about great second cities in Europe
to visit. Okay, you know I'm in Chicago here famously
the second city riverside, Uh what I would pronounce our
(28:44):
Who's which is pronounced of course?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yos the double Denmark. Yes, it's the second largest city
in Denmark. It's a two and a half hour train
ride from Copenhagen on a totally different island, well far
north of Elson. Like you look at that and you go, wait,
how is that two and a half hours And you go, oh, right,
they actually have transit, but it super cool. And so
(29:10):
then we just kind of delved into watching videos about
this place or whatever. So Dean wanting to wash every
location and just call it Denmark. What can you tell
us about this other?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Well, I, oh you didn't, So if you want all
the reasons, I'll tell you. But my friend works there.
He's a college professor, but he lives in Hamburg and
makes he commutes up there, stays there for three days
a week, and comes down. So ultimately I've since I
wasn't staying there for his wedding itself, which would have
been in Denmark, I went to visit him from Copenhagen
(29:46):
to Hamburg. So I structured the trip like i'd never
been a you know, Scanninavy in my life. And I thought, okay,
I have a reason to go, so I will build
an Oslo. So I did it, just Steve Time, then
down with you for the white then mainly Steve Time
and Copenhagen. But the now adult son of that other
friend lives in Copenhagen and we met up. There's a
(30:07):
little like yeah and then uh and Hamburg was great?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
To Hamburg was great?
Speaker 4 (30:13):
So why didn't you go to the other wedding?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Because it was in May, so I would have had Ah,
it was eight weeks between the two.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
So you chose Dean. Dean's your favorite?
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Dean my friend will never hear this? Yes, yes, to
tell you because we happened to have him here with us,
all awkward?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
Would you say that Dean is who you spend the
most amount of your time.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
With the two of them?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
I just love that you defined that Turkish friend is
who you spend the most amount of time with building.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Yeah you said that.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
So you said we go on walks.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Well, you know right, so it makes sense he spends
more time with him because.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
You on walk. What else?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Uh, lunch?
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Perhaps lunch?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
We do lunch, We watch the Late Night. We go
through the YouTube and we watch We're basically two old
single guys. You hang out and we have similar political taste.
So we'll watch all the monologues.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Of the late.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, this is romance.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Watch what you call a friend?
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (31:24):
What's his name?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Name is six letters comprised that name, so it could
be a vanity plate. That was That was we say
in Turkey a callback that his last name is called
is translates to Steve the Turk And we're getting somewhere does.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
It translates to bronze? That's right? White?
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Now I believe you assembled. Yeah, you've assembled this all
to perform the game.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, we were going to do a game, but I
just you know, I like, we don't get Steve the
Turk very often, so I just wanted to like follow
up with him about I want to we must care
the listeners care about Steve the Turk.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
We are we getting feedback? Come in?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Do they?
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Are you keeping us on a track or can I
ramble a bit a bit? There was a big no
King's protest today, Oh, yes, and I went to it.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We were talking about this. Okay, let's just say we're
recording this on a Saturday night, Saturday the fourteenth, no
King's protests over all over what is it? A Cisquas
centennial military parade. Let's face, it was Trump's birthday party
in Washington, d C. I had a problem with the
(32:44):
no King's protest in downtown LA. Where you have La King,
you have the La Kings. Yeah, you're right, it's the
home of Lebron James the King. And now what is
it really a case of okay? Sports here? What have
you done for us? Lean? No Kings? Wow? You know what?
You're right.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
They're not in the the NHLA right now.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Lebron out in round one. I think of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So yeah, that's why we're no Kings.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
No, okay, So now it makes sense. It's not against them,
it's all there are no Kings.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
There are no Kings in the playoffs. Ever so ever,
not ever more American.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
But question though, for Seve, would you say that the
man that you swound the most amount of time with
is your best friend.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm not six years old. I don't have a best friend.
His gold he's a great guy.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
I think is your best friend.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
He's he's among them. That's the greatest thing.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
Well, any any Turkish listener would understand. I was saying
bronze's gold, which doesn't make any sense. That sounds like
a third place finisher. You just bronze white is gold, right,
But I didn't say his last name. But if you
say bronze's gold, that's like the third place finisher, trying
to be like, ah, it's the same metals.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Your first best friend or your third best friend.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
If you could rank them, Let's just put the names
of all your friends up and just rank them.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Well, let him get married in a destination wedding and
see if I show up, let's find out.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
All right, Look, Steve, I'm sorry that got hijacked from you.
What is it? So? What is it that's so goddamn
important that you gotta say before we open the chill
pack more? It all ties into Dean actually comes.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Onto the mic. Steve onto the mic for what? Thanks
for distracting me?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
He's a professional.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Yeah, I I was fishing around for a correct T shirts.
You know, I have a lot of band shirts. I'm like,
what am I gonna wear this pro? I don't have
any like a Trump specific, but I grabbed them. The
first T shirt I grabbed was this from my play
that I did a years ago at the Hollywood Fringe Award,
winning too many Hitlers.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I actually remember that play. Did you go and see it? Yes? Awesome?
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Yeah, And I was thinking about bringing it back actually
because that was the first year of the first Trump administration.
There were a couple of Trump references sneaked in. But
part of the driving force that got me to finish
the first draft of that was Dean was about to
move away, and I had some fantasy that I would
somehow mount of production and try to ask you to
be in the cast, remember, And it made me finish
(35:31):
the first draft before you went off to Australia fifteen.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, and you finished it, but I couldn't be in it.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
But you you attended a maybe one stage reading, a
table read or something.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
D table reader.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, but you wanting you to be part of it
helped me finish the project.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
So that nothing like motivation saying I'm leaving well.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
And also that when I think of Hitler, I think
of Dean. You know, all it all goes together. I
have a story.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
I'm hosting a show, a live show in Los Felis
on Monday night, and feel free not to come everybody.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
And way to uninvite me, like Rand Paul to the
White House picnic.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Oh my god, and there is I'm making a Hitler
reference in it. Then I was gonna reference him as
aspiring painter. Yes, yes, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
If only they let him into art school, perhaps World
War two wouldn't happen.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
So, uh, well, that's young Hitler. That's a story of
young Hitler for sure. Sure, yeah, right, little paramount. Plus
it's going to be streaming.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Little Hitler like Hello Kitty.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, trying Timothy Shalaman the other thing. And I think
that this was a bumper sticker that little saw. Usually
we steer clear from politics. But speaking of steering, let's
talk about cars and electric cars in particular. She saw
a bumper sticker on an electric car that was not
a Tesla. Okay, and it doesn't matter what it was,
(37:01):
but the bumper sticker quite delightfully said one hundred percent electric,
zero percent Nazi.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
That's good. So it wasn't German made. No celebrity deaths.
Sometimes I quiz Dan on these, we're doing a true
game show format on these, I'm going to be assigning points.
I expect each of you to remember the point total
that I give you, because it will be both random, creative,
(37:29):
and possibly delightful aesthetic. I think I'm already like a thousand,
Is that right? Yeah? If you tell me, I'm I'm
expecting we operate on the honor systems to hear Steve
the Turk all.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Right, I already have one point.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He played. He played the angry Judge in Ghostbusters Too.
Do we remember the angry Judge and Ghostbusters Too? Who
needs the Ghostbusters to save his ass when he gets
so angry that he activates the ectoplasm that's on display.
(38:10):
He died of a cardiac arrest in New York City
at the age of eighty seven. He uh. He played
one hundred and fifty roles in his career, made appearances
in Scarface, In Training, Day, Star Trek, Deep Space nine, Ooh, ooh,
no it. He earned an Emmy Award nomination in nineteen
(38:30):
ninety six for his appearance on the sitcom Frasier.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Oh John Malkovich, I really thought.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
John Malcovitch is increer. You get one point one point
making an offer? What year did he die? At the
age of eighty seven? This year? This year? These are
all recent years ago. So he was June tenth he died. Uh,
can we do we get a hint? Can we can?
I ask his nationality?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
How many?
Speaker 1 (39:01):
How many I've given you? I've given you all his
all his credits. Oh, by the way, he appeared on
an episode of The.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
X Files, What which one?
Speaker 1 (39:14):
He also was in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Law and Order,
Deep Ozark, many others not Jerry Harden. His name was
Harris Eulen. This guy, you know that, this guy who
did you an Emmy? Because I love Fraser and I've
(39:40):
seen them all, he did not get I thought for
sure the Ghostbusters two people come on.
Speaker 6 (39:45):
For me it was the Fraser because Ghostbusters two is
pretty hard to watch, all right, lil, Here's let alone remember,
all right, lil.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
Not that we've prediscussed this at all. Here's the second.
Uh celebrity a former m t v v J who
hosted Total Request Live before leaving the network to launch
her own show. I just saw this June eleventh, at
the age of fifty two, Ananda. I knew the first
(40:13):
name as well, but I didn't know. Do you know
the last name?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Is it Wilson Lewis It is Lewis Lewis Lewis Andando Lewis.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You get to split five points to.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Point two point five?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
What are you? What are you at?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Three five?
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I am at don't tell her five point five? I
said aesthetic twice. Now I have six points.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Dean is correct. It's three point five two points to Dean, yeah,
and two and a half to Steve.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Ben on the board, Dean, because he did the math.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
He's accurate math. He accurately counted your point to This is.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
The worst game show I've ever been on, and I've
been on good game shows.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Really, I've been on game shows.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That is four points to you. Mil So you're at
seven and a half, Dee Fast two, Steve the Turk
two and a half. I really should speak up an
aesthetic esthetic.
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Dean also has two points. I just accurately said his total. No, okay,
I rise up a little bit.
Speaker 7 (41:21):
So.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
This actor played doctor Rick Weber during the height of
a long running daytime dramas Popularity.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
The actor was named Chris Robinson. The character was doctor
Rick Weber. Should be doctor Richard. If your doctor should
be Richard Rick Rick, doctor, I'm cutting a half point
for you, interrupted he died in his sleep June ninth,
much like our listeners at the age of eighty six,
(41:59):
what long running soap operated? Chris Robinson star on as
doctor Rick Webber General Hospital, General Hospital. You get the
half point back, all right?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
I was going to say the bold.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
And Beautiful for I was going to say Days of
our Lives.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
They're all canceled.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Okay, I was going to say General Hospital. Oh wait wait,
all right, now is the part where we get to
find out what you would have said? Okay, past that
part of the show. Hey, sly Stone of sly and
the Family Stone. In other news, sly Stone was still alive. Yeah,
(42:37):
that's crazy. Like I went to see a show that
he was going to be headlining in early nineties and
dude never showed up. What that was his? Because like
early nineties, you think, wait, sly Stone is still around.
(42:57):
Why is he not the biggest deal like Prince and
so many others. Yeah, like oh Prince said to him, yeah,
good if you believe you don't get a point if
you believe that. But I saw but so yeah that
was Slidestone's m and but I was wondering that when
I went to the show, was like why is he
not still a huge deal that he was one of
(43:18):
the most talented people, sliestone, So.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
He just didn't like I was gonna say, Steve, Well,
two things. I saw him live in two thousand and six.
Oh and he did show up, and it was a
great show. But he was old enough and tired enough
that I noticed halfway through the show a poorly intentionally
poorly lit backup singer, a young man doing most of
the heavy lifting for his vocals. But another thing, is
(43:45):
he washed out so early, Like drugs really got the
better of him in the mid seventies and he already
was struggling. There's an appearance you can find on Letterman's
show from eighty three where he's already trying to make
a comeback, and they addressed it the interview. Letterman says, Now,
you were kind of notorious for not showing up. He says,
but I'm going to show up now. And it's a
beautiful performance. He does a couple of the great hits
(44:07):
from the early seventies, and he has all the power,
and uh.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
You wonder how much the presence of Paul Schaeffer actually
Goose helped make that possible. Totally possible. Okay, what did
he die of? Age of eighty two? What did he
die of? Sly Stone? Blimp accident, natural causes? Oh, my goodness,
(44:31):
he stopped breathing. Those are both incorrect. Okay, what did
he die of? Dean Hagland, You control the board right,
Uh stubbed toe? He died of it says he died
in long Los Angeles after a long battle with copd breathing.
(44:54):
All I can take that to mean is the Colorado
Police Department had a long battle with the Colorado Police Department. Okay,
but that was only Fordio. That was only for ships
and giggles. The quiz question is sly in the family
Stone's best song? Go who has it?
Speaker 6 (45:12):
I love k Sara Sarah, which is a cover but
they take it away from being a a waltz and
he does it?
Speaker 1 (45:20):
You know, No, it's amazing. It's amazing. What it what
it does? It? As it gains in being obscure, it
loses in being wrong. Answer. Oh okay, okay, Dean litl
best song by sly Stone. Uh funk my carpet that
might not exist? It does not exist, that's it, but
it should exist. It gets two points, Lil.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
The one that goes dun dum dum dum dum dum
dum dum dum dum.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
The greatest title of any song ever.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Wait, this is a subjective answer.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
No, no, no, no, no, not at all. This is
I mean, this is sign thank you for let me
be the wordplay and it's a great song. It's so
the title is thank you parentheses, next word fletting me,
next word be, next word mice like more than one,
next word, next word again, thank you, thank you for
(46:21):
let me be myself again. And it is a great song.
I'm giving five to Steve the Turkey knew that, but.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
He saw the concert.
Speaker 4 (46:35):
He saw the concert or I saw Woodstock the.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
Movie when I was a kid, and that his section
of that spoke to me the most I loved I
want to Take You Higher.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I was jumping for Woodstock.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
Bowser, Bowser, I wanted to be Bowser. Brian Wilson Brian
Wilson was one of the founding members of The Beach Boys.
Yes he's a songwriter during the band's most prolific and
may say jeler period. He died at the age of
eighty two. Was born in Inglewood, California. What I Want
(47:14):
to know is because this guy. I don't use the
word genius often, thank you. That has nothing to do
with this. But Brian Wilson, what I'm looking for is no,
he was. He was a seminal figure in music. We
(47:34):
were talking about this today. The BBC ten years ago
did a poll of musical acts and his what is
It God only knows? Was beautiful the greatest song of
all time. Most interesting tidbit or fact about Brian Wilson.
And I don't have a predesigned answer on this. I
(47:56):
just want each of you to share an answer with me,
and whoever's best will happily pick up the keys to
their brand new buick. Okay, I really like.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
That he just knew nothing about surfing.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
That is a good one. He didn't he he never served.
Speaker 4 (48:14):
He knew nothing about it.
Speaker 5 (48:17):
He was very enthusiastic about writing surfing songs, but he
didn't feel the need.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
He never served. He didn't have a lad.
Speaker 4 (48:23):
He served. He never didn't know a thing about it.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Oh, please helicopters. Uh, here's an interesting fact about Brian Wilson.
In the sixties. Uh, he was hanging out in a
funky hippie commune and one of the super cool residents
Charles Manson. Him and Charles Manson were kind of palli pally. Huh.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
There is also him.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Was he when he did that twenty whatever?
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Because didn't he make it when he was like a teenager?
I mean they were teenagers famous.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
But Charles Manson was hanging out and there was like
this super cool commune out by uh Will Roger's Ranch
or something like that.
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Manson really got around. Manson got around man Cato Kalin.
But if he turned into a psychopathic.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Wait was that ranch?
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Was that the ranch that Tarantino depicted in Once Upon
a Ranch?
Speaker 3 (49:22):
Was it not the movie making ranch but spawn ranch?
But that was kind of a thing. There there was
a ranch that all the singers, Brian Wilson was there,
Charles Manson was there.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Uh, there is going to be a Manson reference also
in my show on Monday. Now, Oh look at that
Benson Anitler. You gotta exactly. And I bring this all
ages show and bring them together. I do because my
grandfather together.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Again.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
My grandfather lived in a small town on a lake
in Washington called Manson. And I was born in nineteen
sixty eight, so I'm a little boy and even I
think it's weird then that, like you, you haven't changed
the name of this town. It was like, well, and
I'm wondering whether news of it had even made it
up there. And I just have always liked to believe
that someone someone at a town meeting at some point suggested,
(50:15):
should we think, I know it's name for so many
different but should we change the name. And people said, well,
we appreciate your point of view, but branding is difficult.
The year is nineteen seventy three. It's heard we don't
have Thomas guides. People have learned how to get to Manson,
they know to make it to the lake, to drive
(50:37):
through Hitler.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
So that's my interesting brand.
Speaker 1 (50:44):
That's a very good one, all right, Steve the Turk,
do you have an interesting Brian Wilson.
Speaker 6 (50:49):
Well, I think, following the rule of threes, that his
genius proves that having an abusive stage father will make
a genius somewhere in the in the in your coterie
of kids, in your in your litter. Uh yeah, being
a cruel and so that is sad. You can have
(51:10):
it is worse art. You can have more mediocre art
if you're kind to all the children.
Speaker 3 (51:15):
And there's a rare recording of them doing uh his
father Murray, father Murray, yelling at all of them in
a recording session, but in beautiful harmony. No no, father
didn't sing oh no no, well it was. It's a
terrible thing you can find on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (51:35):
That's off.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Yeah, just yelling at all the kids while they're trying
to record.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
That's a depressing no. I I okay, my fun fact, Okay,
I'm not playing, I'm just uh, my fun fact is
he was a member of a band, the Beach Boys
called the Mountain Boys that would one day count as
its drummer, John Stamos. That's my fun that's right.
Speaker 3 (51:59):
I heard that, and John Stamos can play the drums.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
And you were with me and I think we were
podcasting when I got a text from Stamos saying because
I had met with him about some project, and he
texted me saying, I'm drumming with the boys tonight at
the Greek. The Boys meaning the Beach Boys too cool
(52:24):
to say the whole band. So I'm drumming with the
Boys at the Greek tonight, Dash Stamos, I mean reach
the crash symbol.
Speaker 4 (52:39):
Do you have that card? And can we print that out?
Speaker 1 (52:43):
And I have and we have. Uh So I loved
all this. Assign yourself whatever amount of points you want.
One for me, I'm gonna subtract five from me.
Speaker 4 (52:57):
I'm gonna go into the red. I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Plus removed too.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
We're enjoying all this alright. Well, then we'll keep going
straight up until celebrities died, straight on until morning. I
have another like sixteen that we could do, but I'm
gonna pick this one because this actor had kind of
just for some reason, my favorite name of any actor.
He he did eighteen different Perry Mason.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
TV movie I Love Perry Mason.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
He performed opposite Clint Eastwood in four of Eastwood's movie Oh.
He was a US Army soldier during the Korean War.
Was caught in an ambush, left for dead. But was
he and just one other soldier survived. Yeah, he was not.
(53:48):
But because the military records were lost, he was not
awarded a Purple Heartness Star until two thousand and five.
Speaker 3 (53:54):
Damn oh, thank goodness.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
After the war, he briefly wrote music with Otis Redday
before turning to acting.
Speaker 5 (54:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
And he portrayed as I said in Perry Mason Lieutenant
Brock in eighteen productions, played opposite Eastwood in Coogan's Bluff
play Misty for Me every which way but loose and
sudden impact, other popular words.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
He's the ape from Everyone's Loose. Oh right, I think
that has to get cut out. We're gonna have protests
around the studio. What in the there was an ape
that was the costar.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Also, you're getting into real chick Hern territory right now,
I am do you. I don't get that. You don't
get that reference. No, well, I know who chick Hern
was the announcer for the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (54:46):
Yeah, just to look at him hanging up there on
the rim like a monkey. I don't know the race
of this person. I was just making a everyone.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
But now you do know reaction you don't know? Okay, anyways, okay,
Asian popular work, uh all in the Family Colombo Murder,
she wrote Hill Street Blues, many others. What's this actor's name? Right?
She's right? You know, she's right.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
I know this actor because his trapezius muscles and he
had this hunch and he's like, Perry you how how
did you get to this crime scene?
Speaker 1 (55:23):
How did you know?
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Like he's always the uh the uhaler. No, he's the
the Inspector General or whatever from the LAPD and he
like comes to the crime scenes, goes Perry, what how
did you get here? Like this is like it's so
funny every time. Yeah, like yeah, well, how'd you know?
How'd you know this was a murder?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
Like he was always That's Dean's answer. El Robison not
not bad. At least you named a black actor of
of of August stature, even though he's about fifty years
too early. I always liked this guy's name. James mckeechon
one of my favorite names interest ever any actor James McKeith,
(56:04):
I mean son of Keechen. Someone somewhere was named keitchin.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Are they still Firing Downtown?
Speaker 1 (56:11):
I also love I really love this guy. He was
one of the god the Three, the Three Villains, the
three Hench villains who were like gods of different like
powers in Big Trouble in Little China. Oh, he was
(56:32):
the Elemental Master Reign. From that, he was in such
other cult classics as Gleaming the Cube. He died in
his sleep that a skateboarding movie. It was Yeah, May
twenty seventh, at the age of seventy three. He appeared
in so many shows of the era. Greatest American hero
(56:53):
the eighteen Dynasty, Miami Vice mcgiver, very very uh important member. Uh,
an inspirational member of the Asian American Pacific Islander community
here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
Not Stephen Wong.
Speaker 1 (57:10):
Who was he? No, Uh, you are correct, not Stephen Wong.
Speaker 3 (57:17):
I got that right.
Speaker 6 (57:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
Okay. What was that guy's name, because I know it. James,
Not James Wong.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
James Hong was was a low pan uhh.
Speaker 3 (57:31):
Okay, Yeah, but who in Blade Runner is like, I
made your eyes James Hong.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
So, but we are looking for It's not far off.
We're looking for Peter Kwang.
Speaker 3 (57:45):
People.
Speaker 1 (57:47):
What I was so touched by was just reading the remembrances.
This guy was supposedly just one of the real gents. Well,
you know what.
Speaker 6 (57:55):
I went to the million Dollar Theater on you know,
a few blocks from your home. Yes, I'm on Broadway
and uh for a screening of Big Trouble Little China,
which is one of those amazing eighties gems speaking of
eighties movies and design and production quality.
Speaker 1 (58:08):
I love that film.
Speaker 7 (58:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (58:11):
I think he was there. There were there were several
people from the cast.
Speaker 3 (58:14):
Wow. Yeah, And they introduced it in there on stage.
Speaker 1 (58:17):
Mm hm.
Speaker 6 (58:17):
They did Q and I afterwards, and there was a
guy in the audience who was like, I was an
extra in it. Don't tell me he died.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
I won't. I won't tell you. Please all right, So
I hope you've been keeping track of your points. Last
this is the last one. Here we go. Enso Styola
was a child actor who starred in what all time
masterpiece Eno Bicycle Thieves, Holy Jesus, right out of the top.
Speaker 6 (58:51):
What because it's you as an Italian name, and it's
the one, the most famous one with a child actor
that I.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Could think of. Steve the Turk, Steve the Turk, He's
bizarre in Victorio de Seku's near realistic He died June
fourth in Italy at the age of eighty five to
Seka Sam on the street and thought his large, expressive
(59:21):
eyes there be the perfect for the part. Despite the
young Stiola having no acting experience, it resulted in a
film that just two years later was named the best
film of all time in Sight and Sound just two
years after its release atop the Sitan sound pool. Fifty
years later, it is still ranked in the top ten.
Speaker 4 (59:45):
Congratulations to it.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Yes, and to Steve the Turk for how many that's
a fifty point?
Speaker 4 (59:52):
That was a fifty point That was a fifty point question.
Speaker 1 (59:55):
Well, no, you know what the point point question is. Uh, oh,
we got one more. I'll let I'll let that have
a chance to tie Steve the Turk. Whoever gets this right,
tie Steve the Turk and we have we have a
like I don't know what. So just there's one loser death,
there's some Can it be a.
Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Fifty three point because I gave myself negative three.
Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
One? Name another famous film that Stiola appeared in eight
and a half.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Oh, that's pretty good. Amicard the Karate Kid.
Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
You both went Felini. You will both want Italian?
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
No lesson zero.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Star Wars, which way we lose?
Speaker 7 (01:00:42):
Zero?
Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Oddly enough? Does describe both your.
Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Scores fifty fifty as I could find, as far as
I could find.
Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
He made one other really famous film, and it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Was Gordon Levitt.
Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Gordon five hundred Days of Sumner.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
That's what I was trying to think.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Sum War movie.
Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Fort Sumter really.
Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Good, that's half the war. They were Stephen Sagall who
played Stephen in Five Under pictures Stephen and the kid
from the bicycle. Deep. Oh my god, what agreed? That's me? Great? Okay,
(01:01:35):
we're gonna have to do it all over. We're gonna
have to shut this down so that I can tell
you my Stephen Sagall story. Gotta does anybody care? That ends? O?
Styola also starred in The Barefoot Contessa with Ava Gardner.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
That would have been my thirty fourth answer as what what?
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
What was his? Why? The kids? All right? This somebody
stole my bicycle.
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
This is yes, I stole my socks, breadsticks, My socks
is stolen.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
My socks are barefoot. Somebody stole my pinch, my perfect casa.
Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Why people do it? To Giuseppe? Why is the stealing
of the stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
We did not get your own socks.
Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Somebody's stelling my coupe?
Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Why you do that? I'm the barefoot Contessa with those socks.
GIUSEPPI you ester you're gonna wear the shoes?
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Oh my god?
Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
All right, this has been your chill back, Holly. Whatever
we get everybody, we'll do better. Do you want one
little moment to happen on air?
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
I'm gonna publicly return a spoon to you.
Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Swinging a miss. This is nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
That's interesting because at least twice a night with one
of the people on this page, I exchange spoon. Yes,
we had.
Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
Barbecue at your place downtown and you sent me home
with some leftovers and you left a spoon from your
It's a big spoon. It's like a serving spoon. Here's
the thing that he needs it back. Here's the thing
that sucks about this. Can you carry that on? Or
am I going to It's not a weapon. You're gonna
scoop someone's eyes out.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
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