Billionaire Welfare and the Truth Project

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Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night, and you're
tuned in the Betwey radio and beyond, which can mean
one and only thing. This is Chipchat. Welcome to chip Chat, everybody.
I'm Chip. Who are you Test? Right? Hey, there's Test,
but he's not here. He sounds like, uh, you know

(01:00):
from South Park or whatever. You kill Kenny? Yeah, the bastards.
All right, So Brian's here filling in for Test, who
is in the document, by the way, so we know
that he's around somewhere. Yeah, just want to like clear
something up ahead of time. It is the third of July,

(01:22):
which means that tomorrow is the fourth of July, and
that means that tonight, while I'm recording this and broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
To you find the British are coming.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Here is the British are Yeah, they've already invaded. And sup,
here's the British have come. Oh my god, there's a
red coat there is in the corner, smiling in a
NAT's hat.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm here, happy for Can you hear me? How do
I sound?

Speaker 1 (01:49):
We can hear you. Yeah. The other thing that I
can hear is Gaza outside. So like just to let
everybody know if you hear a bunch of booms and stuff.
It's just fireworks. It's probably okay, but that is happening, so.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I works definitely rattle folks. I seen one go off
yesterday and then like a group of people walking across
the street and like this one lady was like, I just.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
You know, there's a lot of dynamite out here.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I'd say there is, there is now. Look, I'm gonna
be out there with them tomorrow, so we will be
contributing to all of the cordite. But right now, just
you know, if you hear the boom, it's just the fireworks.
Everybody chill out. Also, Happy fourth. I'm wearing my traditional

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Pro America shirt. It says that you can't spell sausage
without USA. We just watched Mike Johnson make a bunch
of sausage with his grinder account in Congress. I felt
like it was appropriate. A lot of pork, especially in Alaska. Also, uh,

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let's get quick this. We'll get this quick out of
the way. Shout out to the Gold Cup Team USA
defeated Guatemala.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yes last night. Oh god, I was at the NETS game.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
It was the one thing the city can't do is
soccer match and baseball match at the same time.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Can't focus on two things at once. So in a
stadium that was packed mostly with Chappin fans, USA one
two to one, Diego Luna had both goals. He looked fantastic.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Now we have to go up against Mexico and they
beat Honduras in their game in their semi so you know,
the very like standard concer cap finish of its like
US and Mexico or US in Canada or it's like, you.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Know, but crazy that those women got paid less, Sandy,
It's just, I mean, it's stilled insane. We allowed that
to go on for so long. Comparatively looking to the men.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Who, yeah, shout out to Matty Reeves stood on his
head when he shouldn't have had to if his defense
could play a little better. But good job in net
and former Arsenal great mister Turner still the backup fully
for Teamay so you.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Know, good luck.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Good Also, while we're talking about soccer, I want to
make something very clear. I want to say this on
the air so that everybody can hear it. I have
never been within five or ten yards of attire of
a Lamborghini ever. I've never never been near one, never
touched one. I don't think I've ever even touched a
Lambeau at all. And I have been here in the

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United States all week. So just want to be very
clear about that as we give our condolences too to
the Portuguese and I can't. I don't want to say it.
Can you give condolences to them? I don't want to
give condolences to who.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
I mean, I've missed.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Diego Jota died in a terrible Lamborghini accident.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
I just I saw the Oh my god, you know what.
I didn't click on this article when I saw it.
And when I saw it, and I was like, the
manager was like a statement on Joeta in my still
plans for I didn't know, but yikes, did not didn't
know that.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I didn't miss that one.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, so that story, And I just want to be
very clear that while I hate everything about Liverpool, I
would never do that. So it was an accident as
far as anybody knows. I mean the tire blew out
while they were driving. And yeah, I mean his brother.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
This is not this is why this is not a
news show because obviously I'm missing that. Like there's a
lot going on this weekend. I definitely missed that. I
saw that update and it didn't even strike me to think.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Like, oh, it was about him being dead.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, it doesn't strike you because he's a midfielder.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I knew you were going.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
After I said it, I was like, I gotta know that.
Damn Wow, I'm fin out live on the show. I
did not know that.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, yeah, damn for football god man. Okay, So this
is a special edition of chip Chat. This week we
have a guest, Malcolm Reese is going to be joining us.
He's from The Truth Project that's a non traditional reporting outfit.
We have a ton of questions to ask him. Also
this week, the Senate and the House past you ready,

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the unbelievably ridiculous dumpster fire or turd.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I guess Congress does work when they want to, kind of.
I mean, it's kind of crazy that they were able
to push that through.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
They pushed that turd right through.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, you know, it just makes you wonder at times
looking back at like the sixty super majority we had,
like we played.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
This ship all wrong. Man, you played it wrong.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
And I ain't got I mean, there's I have certain
beats with Obama, but I do think that's the one.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
I get why he came in this. I'm like, let's
work it out type of ship.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
But it's obvious that like at this point, this is
the way they drove that build through.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It was just like, oh, rules is off.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Obviously I've never been on for them, was not on
the court.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's the I mean, it's like but then even then, right,
but even I look at someone like maryor Garland and
I'm like, you moved too slow when you were when
you were when you were what's the name, Tony General,
And that's all this moving to Like what do the
rest of these fus on the other side of just like,
oh no, it's cool, like whatever we.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
We Yeah, the left has the problem of ethics and
morals and the attempted stickiness of bipartisanship and and all
of that, and the right. The recent dictatorships often emerge
from the right wing is because they are more willing
to annihilate everything.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I'm just like, killed Howard Dean. I watched that kill
his campaign.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I'd bean, who's out Franken right, which again not not cool,
not condoning that at all, but.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Like he didn't really maybe even do anything.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
We just kind of overshot that anyway, we'll.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Get to that. Okay, So that happened. Also, the Supreme
Court interferes with Brian's favorite pastime, and Mike Johnson might
be stroking a little more than legislation behind closed doors speculation.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
No, no, you need a sounder for that. That's definitely, of.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Course, we need a sound effect for grinder. That's what
a grinder sounds like. That's a different kind of grinder. Also,
let's see, we've got headlines, We've got news, We've got
a whole bunch of other stuff. It's gonna be a

(09:37):
pack show. It's gonna be wild. So h yeah, do
you do you have oh? All right, yeah, do you
have a word?

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Uh? A word? Yeah, I have a word?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yes, Okay, I've got a word. So, uh, sit back,
grab some explosions. It's job killing time. You're listening to
the best show, the only show, chip Chat on Beltwait
Radio and beyond. All right, welcome back to chip Chat

(10:30):
here on the boat Wait Radio and beyond im. You
know is Chip with me? Is tez?

Speaker 2 (10:37):
What's Papa ya? That was?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
That was Brian's all time fastest break in the history.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I like, I feel like I have pretty good time
on these things, and that's like the fastest whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
But I was enjoying the fireworks as cover for all
of his explosion sound effects.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Let it, let it, let it blast.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, So that's time for everybody's favorite part of the show.
This is the headlines. This is where has read stuff
that he's never read before, which is hilarious for all
the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I've never read this. I did look at this show.
I did once one over. How you get the best.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Pardon my incredulous face. Okay, do you want to go
ahead with the first one?

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Then?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Oh yeah, because that gets me out of the second one.
Who knows what's what I'm getting into. I'm right, everybody,
As you know, we have our lovely headlines here and
starting off to kick us off here, Elon Musk is
launching a third party to contend with the Dems and
Trump's GOP, But if it's anything like his other launches,
it's likely to explode before it delivers anything meaningful.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Sean Dinny Combs was convicted of several counts of prostitution
and related stuff, but was acquitted of the trafficking charges,
so you could say he slid out of the consequences.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Slippery, slippery all right after people complain that one big,
ugly bill would strip healthcare from millions of people, Jadie
Vance called the claim immterial, which is funny because we
thought Vance's favorite material was pleather.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
God.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yes, Alaska senator and woman who can't find her keys,
Lisa Murkowski came out strongly against the bill that she
had just voted for, claiming that it would harm lots
of people, but she had to vote for it so
that whaling captains could get a tax break. There's no
joke here, that's just actually what happened.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yeah, I'm I've actually she's anyways, I'm not going to
go into that.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Actually she just rushed.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
We can get into that.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
I just I just, I mean, it's clear.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I don't know where she falls in line with like
being afraid, being like shrewd politician kind of I don't know,
and like sometimes I'm I'm leaning more now and more
the shrewd politician, which might be an oxymoor, but unless

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of like, oh I'm afraid, like because not like she's afraid.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I think she got what she got everything she could
get and just doesn't give a shit about anybody else yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
I mean I've I've listened to her speak, right, and
one of like what she threw back to the group
was oh, well, what like around Senate confirmation? And she's
just like, well, what am I supposed to do? Like
I'm yeah, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
What do you mean what he's supposed to do? Tell
me these people aren't qualitied?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So then yeah, vote against them, vote against them.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
And it's clear.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
What's it tell us out of Carolina?

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Like it's clear, but like that's a stand and maybe
that's I.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Don't like again, don't agree with anything that man does,
but I did agree with that and more people.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
The only way this stops is folks taking the stamp.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
But there has to be Republicans that step up, and
so far, uh.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
You know they count on one hand.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, well but if they go down, they go down
swinging and and and like good for Tom Tillis. I'm
sure he'll be on this show in a couple of weeks,
like Joe Wall's trying to rehabilitate his career and then
three years later, forget about us altogether.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
But like, anyway, all right, the headlines are supposed to
be this. Yes, I'm sorry, we waited two series here
serious times. Cenate majority leader John Thune hailed the passage
of the bill as a victory. After reducing programs for
hungry children, his next target is puppies.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
That might really that that might you know they start
hurting puppies, that might.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
People get very upset.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
The House UH scrambled to pass the bill as well
before the July fourth date, so that Medicaid wouldn't have
to cover anybody who pulls a jake.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I've read that one and I'd laughed. I didn't laugh.
I never get their GM or own. It just been
like he has no clue. It was like a radio
headlines like the owner has no clue. How many fingers
JPP still has? Crazy times. It is, in fact fireworks season,
and that means safety, and that means safety. Third, everybody right,

(15:27):
if you can't light it while holding your beer, it's
best to leave it to the professionals or that neighbor
with only one eye.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yes. Trump announced a new trade deal with Vietnam, the
first one that he the first and only one that
he's managed to secure within the ninety day tariff pause.
It says that all products coming out of Vietnam will
have a tariff of only fun ninety five.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
That's really good. Actually, you know, I think I might
have said this on the show.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
I think colonialism is terrible, but a bond me now,
the best example, the best we got out of it.
I think there's probably some other ones, but it's there.
That's if it's not curry goats right up there. Curry
goat is another one.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, curry. Yeah, the curry is actually really.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Like Caribbean curry, like West Indian curry. Is definitely like
the height of what colonialism can deliver.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
It is that.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, you know, all right, uh in the NBA it's
free agency time. Or when your white uncle complains that
Larry Bird never got paid for being better than.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Short, I mean I talk about being paid.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
I was looking at some stats on what Lebron James
has made over his career completely undervalued, like like the
price like some of those year contracts, specifically in his
best years.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
In Miami, somewhere like maybe sixteen million dollars. And I
give you the like I get the cap and all that.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It was different times and it was cap and he
was and like it was about winning a championship and a.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Million dollars a year, obviously at the bare minimum.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
He's all three of them took pay cuts to do
it because they.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Wanted the ring criminally underpaid, though criminally for what his
talent is.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Lookal, the games is not hurting from my.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
But I'm just saying when it comes to value and
if it was like socialism and sports always frustrats me
because the only place let the billionaires just go at
it with their money.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
And had that in soccer. Do you see what it's
doing there? All right? Speaking of which, did Dalai Lama
announced this week that he would decide to reincarnate. Apparently
that's a choice, that is a choice I learned this week.

(17:40):
This This isn't a joke. This one's true. That he
would reincarnate this week and outside of the area currently
controlled by China, so that the Tibetan people could still
continue their struggle for freedom. Also on the list of places,
he ruled out Texas, Florida, and for obvious reasons, Ohio.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Of course. All right.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
In Japan, there is a new service that allows people
to hire someone to quit their job on their behalf. Unsurprisingly,
a fair amount of those messages never make it to
the boss as the hired quitters hire someone else to
quit their quitting job.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's good. That's a nice lot. I like to like that.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
The Supreme Court ruled that states could regulate access to porn,
making it harder for people under the age of eighteen
from accessing it. A relieve. Matt Gates was quoted as saying,
but venmos still available.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Right, yikes. One of his been most public it was
that was how he got gone? Yes, of course. Obviously.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Canada celebrated their national holiday, cleverly called Canada Day in
the current fifty States. It was marked by a brief
reminder that Canada exists.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yes, current fifty states.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
I almost read that as Canada dry.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's hilarious. Something something Joe ginger Ale, something something Tez.
In New York, thirty three year old Assemblyman's over On
Mondani officially clinched the nomination for the Democratic ticket for
mayor of New York. Over on Fox News, Mamdani's name

(19:16):
kept coming up next to a word that rhymes with clinch.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Mm hmm. Maybe we shouldn't say that.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
No, No, we're not gonna say but they said it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
They did. They did say it. For another lawsuit coming
soon for real.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Moment, a little bit for real Fox News is stan
is so afraid of Muslim mayor of New York that
they have started to pretend that they love New York.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Europe is in the middle of a terrible heat wave.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Another one.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Huh, okay, climb down, climate guy.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Anyways, continue, Let's make the bad joke first, shall we?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Sorry? Where was i?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Europe is in the middle of a terrible heatwave, with
tempts in the Alps reaching above freezing for the first time,
threatening to bury Switzerland in a massive flood of melted cheese.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Definitely go there. It is. Oh my god, I'm so worried.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Tempts in Europe got so hot that French people began
smoking even more to try to cool off.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
And finally, Beyonce is bringing her Cowboy Carter tour to
the DC area. That was stay tuned for traffic and
a sound coming from Northwest Field that many long time
Washington football fans are unaccustomed to.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Joy Yeah exactly, Oh god, her shows are so good.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Oh yeah, I'm not going. First of all, No, it's
for July. I got stuff and children, and I can't
afford that also, like this is going to cause traffic
that's going to reach into like Nebraska from here.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
So I just wanted the overhead shot of the actual beltway,
not even an overhead shot.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
You probably seen the Just.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Look under Google Maps and look for the red ring
of death exactly. It's going to be so bad. And
like Metro is even going to be free that day
from like five o'clock on because it's for the July
and like they try to.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Just let him just well, look, finally we got to
this this.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Maybe he'll try this and realize this is the best
way to go about it. You're starting to sound like mom, Donnie,
I know, Metro they changed all obviously, they changed all
the bus routes, the names of them, which I'm about.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
And took away like took away a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And I don't know where I missed the community meeting
for this, like I'm feeling they did. Yeah, I don't
know how I missed this one here. Yeah, shame on me.
But I had the first moment where someone was asking
me and like I take the bus regularly and I
know a lot of the roots, and I was like, oh, yeah,
it's such and such rude like it's like the B

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two And I.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Was like, it's not called that no more. I have
no clue what it's called.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
All of my like routes around me that I I know,
you know by heart, are wrong now, so it's gonna
be a learning curve for all of us.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
It's so I don't know the why I get.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean I get they kind of keep saying around
like oh, this comes back from the streetcar eras and the.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
But I still don't get the why behind.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
And I don't why for the stream. I don't get
the correlation between the numbers and the letters. Maybe I
just need to do some more research on this. Maybe
there's a guide somewhere out there. I forgot the numbers.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Some of the old lines and numbers were like historical
references or they were like, you know, sort of meant
to convey like a location or an idea, you know,
by using the letter that matched like where it was going.
But they ditched all that and just went east to west,
north to south and you know, just give it, like, uh,

(23:10):
the the names or the letters and the name that
matches like where it goes and making a more uniform system.
And then they mixed a bunch of stops that are
quite honestly, a lot of them are redundant. They're like
a block away from the other one. I'm sure you've
been like my old route when I used to ride
the metro or the the bus to the yellow line

(23:31):
like was terribly circuitous, and it stopped basically every five
hundred feet, you know, And and it was it was
always like stop. We never got up to speed, and
then stop again. And then you know that's ridiculous. Just
pick one place in between those two places maybe, and
that's your one stop for that area or something. So

(23:53):
we'll see, see, we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, all right,
those are the headlines. Yeah, and some that's your discussion.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
I know, right, it's not with the headlines. I'm actually
we will go straight straight with the jokes.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, no, here, there's the first time for everything, right,
all right, we're gonna take a break. When we come
back from the break, we're gonna talk to our guests
and uh and have a good time. Hopefully this isn't
one of the breaks where Brian does something terrible to us,
but maybe we'll find out.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
So you're listening to Buttwegh Radio and beyond swoops, streak balls,
bust balls.

Speaker 4 (24:32):
What I'm exhausted.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Last night I couldn't sleep, but when I did, I
could hear bombs in my dreams night in their situation,
How could they be so evil making motives out of
children and innocent people.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
We expect the.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Bombs, not know when we're next. Tunnel in the corner
of my room, trying to protect my little brother as
the building shakes like it wassessed. But not the song
than the will of Geo Press. I've bombed back when
lyrics and rites living the time trying to break the
Palestinian mind. What's hiding in the clouds hanging over my head?
My dad risks his life outsight and by bread the

(25:10):
fourth orth in my twelve fear with this stage, you're
nom the way. I haven't feel scared. There's nothing I
can do in this case to stay safe from brave.
Even though this house could be in my grave. I
won't freedom for the population. Two million presidents living in
this location shall end up the wall, but nothing is
ever changing death life under renoccupation.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
I want freedom for the population.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Two million presidents living in this location shall end up
the wall, but nothing is ever changing. Deak life under renoccupation,
mother's born fighting with grief, white sheets covered, But is
that my own? The streets bill things turned to ash.
But my mind is made of steel, so it doesn't
take much.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
For me to heal.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
We'll lose the will to live or lose the minds.
My auntie lost her home, so she lost her life,
but he is still alivee but traumatized by the bomb's
death to win and drop. That night, my sister couldn't sleep,
try to stop her cries and said it was why
it works. I was selling her lies. Where's the combession?
This is heartless. It's like they want to sall living

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in darkness, cutting no water and electricity for hours. They're
knocking towerth But that's not nothing. The power that I
have in my pen when I'm writing a monstoppable the
microphone is the only escape possible, because that's the way
that I can speak my mind. I wonder how does
the fighter playless?

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Sleep?

Speaker 7 (26:32):
But night?

Speaker 5 (26:32):
You know when he conturned the city upside down, little
of a sudden slaughter, ring families with the push of
a button.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
But I won't freedom for the population.

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Two million prisoners living in this location shall end up
the wall, but nothing is ever changing death life under renoccupation,
I won't freedom for the population. Two million prisoners living
in this location shall end up the wall, but nothing
is ever changing death life on the pre occupation.

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Radio and beyond.

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originally started. I just cop in and slowly take over.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah you are you are the Simpsons to our Tracy Ollman.
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Pretty much?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I not a I. Oh, that was not a I.
That is not a I.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
That is not a I.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
Actually his name is m c up Tool. He actually
has a couple other videos. I saw this one, you know,
againstcrolling through Instagram, and it's.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Not a know. I just went with it. I was like, okay,
and everything else is you know, I just default to that.
Good look at that.

Speaker 9 (28:15):
Yeah that was I was Actually I was kind of
debate between that song and I found another song, but
once I fully heard the other song and we're pretty
much the video, I felt like after today, No, it's
more right wingers, so I kind of bypassed it.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
So I felt like this was more appropriate.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, it's still pretty rough man like, No, I mean
lives we're told no if you, I don't know if
you caught the reporting. They did it on Morning Edition
where they had Honest Baba, who is NPR's reporter in
Gaza Ah covered himself going to try to get food

(29:00):
from one of these death traps that they call these
food distribution locations, and it was it was hard to
listen to and it was terrifying to be honest, and
I there's just no other way to put that. I mean,

(29:22):
what what what these these food distribution death traps are
is exactly that they are death traps. They are specifically
designed to bring people to them so they can easily
shoot them. And there's just no excuse for it. There's
no excuse for it. This is a full on genocide

(29:45):
being perpetrated by a group of people who, within our
own living memory, know what it's like to be exterminated.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
If I have any of my life's work I'm telling you,
I want to look into this trauma theory.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
I need to because it's maybe there's no back end.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
It's obviously all the evidence, there's anecdotal, but it has
to be something there. I see it in too many
other places. It's not just this is this isn't this
is one example of examples.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I'm sure you could maybe find somebody who has researched
this and or written about it, and or invite them
onto the show.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I need to look at this. You know it could happen.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
No, you're capable of it now because we've seen you
snag one guest and conducted an entire interview, so we're
aware that.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
No way, I got I got another one. I'm thinking of,
let me reach out to another one.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Hear that, Brian, he's thinking of.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Oh I'm sorry, man, life's crazy. Sorry, get me out
of here, all right?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Anyway, let's talk to our guests.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Doca Race is the creative force behind m j R Visuals,
Graphics and visuals company that he started as a side
project when he lived next door to me. That's true,
it was a long time ago. He has now expanded
into a journalism and documentary field with his Truth Project
that aims to deliver the information people need without the
clickbait or spin so many other sites churn out, and

(31:17):
he joins us, Now, Malcolm, welcome to Jip Chad.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Oh baby, how are you doing today?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
And we are so happy to see you and have
you here. I can remember when you came home with
a camera and really, I'm gonna get into this photography thing.
I think it'll be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
And look at you now, I actually remember that.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
You know, I was looking at you have in tendency
to keep some of your old stuff on YouTube, and
the other day KK is now thirteen. I went back
and I started looking at some of the old videos
when she was six months at the apartment and I'm like, oh,
look at that and the camera's shaking left, it right
up and down, color all jacked up, you can't mouth,
doesn't match, is a big hot mess.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Like oh wow, well, well we will shelve that and
not do that again. Yeah, well, you've come a long way.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
So first let's talk about the Truth project. Tell us
about this. What is what's the main goal of this
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'll be honest with you. And since you asked that question.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
Back in twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, somewhe around there, I
was got hired by Linked Pinny Films to do uh
some documentaries. I did something called Hello Girls and six
Triple eight six or eight you recently saw on Netflix,
and we were part of the asking me such a
matter of experts that help with that background story. But

(32:43):
that got me into documentary filmmaking, and that's where the
Truth Project came from, honestly, trying to find those undiscovered
stories that people talk about and bring them alight. That's
where it came from. So fast forward to twenty twenty four.
I said, you know what, documentaries are great, but documentaries
have a very long shelf life, meaning it takes six

(33:06):
months to a year to do a real documentary because
an interview you've got to travel, and I hate spend.
I get physically angry, honestly when I listen to people
and they lie about facts and we know who does that.
People have attended to do that a lot, and it
annoys me. So I said, hey, look let's try something.

(33:27):
Let's go let's take the Truth projectcause I was already
doing it with the documentaries, and let's do news and
I'll be honest with you. I we first started doing
daily news, daily news, daily news, but to do a
deep dive, you can't do daily news, so we changed
it to news and commentary. That way, we still try

(33:48):
to get out two to three a week and would
dropping either on Monday or Thursday Friday. But it's enough
time to have a weekend plus days to do research.
Put it all together, okay. And then and then is
living a and more in depth. B We do the
bad stories and get the wise and we cite everything

(34:08):
you know. And at first I didn't cite anything, and
then it was suggested to me what you should cite.
It's like, why, well, you need a site so people
know weak information. I'm like, I'm not doing that. I'm
a newspaper. We're not doing that. I don't need a site.
Watching the post on site kamahamma right. And then then
they were like, you don't have to watch your post.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
I'm like, oh, you're right.

Speaker 10 (34:27):
I haven't been around that long, but I'm gonna tell
you what it did do people quoting. People actually use
this for quotes because we cite everything. It's the funniest thing.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
We have a question about that, so we'll want to
talk to you about that. But here's so here's my
question about this, Like, I'm not sure exactly what to
call this thing.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Is it journalism? Do you like that label? Are you
okay with it?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Do you do you you know?

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Is it nonprofit journalism? Is it independent journalism? Is it publicjournalism?
What is the best thing to call this thing?

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Do not call it nonprofit? I started the business I
profit now now.

Speaker 10 (35:15):
Because of my service company, Injur Visuals. You know, I
have government contract and things, and I honestly I'm self financed,
So anything I do, I pay the small team. I
have everying out of pocket. Everything comes out of my
Injuri of Visuals, and that's my fund it. Now, if
you go onside, we got merchandise, we have subscriptions, we
have donations, and trust me, I would definitely take because

(35:38):
it will help.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
But but.

Speaker 10 (35:42):
People who take money have atendency to well take money
from companies. They have to kind of deal with those companies,
and the companies start directing what you can say, what
you can't say this way to the truth.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I don't have to worry about it.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
So I'm a I'm a journalist, right, but not nonprofit
so if you like, if you like to say you
like what you hear, donate by merchandise, do something you know, So.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Can we call you independent journalism.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
On independent tre you go, but but for profit? For profit,
well for profit hopefully for profit. No, no, no, we
do little. We do what we do.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Okay, Yeah, one day we're going to make a profit
on this show. Fanatic ten years okay, all right, all right,
So back to the sighting. So one of the things
that I noticed, you know, in reading all the articles
on the site, which, by the way, the site, if
you want to go check it out, it's uh, the

(36:40):
Truth Project dot com.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
No, yeah, you can, but that's hard because it's it's
kinda hyphen in it and stuff.

Speaker 10 (36:46):
It'd be easier to do tpnewsroom dot com.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
That's your T newsroom dot com that.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Way, because it it redirects it.

Speaker 10 (36:55):
So I chose that because the Truth Project dot Com
was something I got back twenty eighteen. But there was
another person that already had it too, That's why you
see the So I just I kept it and it
just does his thing on all right.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
So tpnewsroom dot com if you want to go check
it out. So while I was perusing tpnewsroom dot com.
I was reading the articles and I noticed, as you mentioned,
that all of the articles at the bottom have citations footnotes,
almost in the way that like when you read a
scientific paper or a research paper, at the bottom it

(37:29):
has all all of the footnotes. So why are you
you mentioned somebody said that to you, but like, why
are you including it? What do you think that the
value of citing all those sources does for the content?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It shows the seats man.

Speaker 10 (37:44):
So one thing that people have a tendency to do,
and that happened way back when it nineteen eighty Well,
some president made a law where you don't have to
be honest on the truth. It news doesn't have be factual.
This ensures that everything I put out is based by fact.
And the one thing that I try to ensure people
think wecite dot org, dot eedus dot govs stuff with

(38:08):
credible ways. And that I mean once while you see
a XO or a Time magazine just because they did it,
ad on it.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
And I mean, when you.

Speaker 10 (38:16):
Get to a certain size like the Atlantic, you were
institutionalized and it just comes with the territory, so you
can quote them.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
But somebody like me somebody young.

Speaker 10 (38:26):
That quote provides top cover, as they like to say
in the military, where they say, Okay, these guys did
the due diligence and they're not just making stuff out
of dinner. Because when we started the first I want
to say, ten fifteen articles, no citations, okay, and then
you see them in there, especially the new ones that

(38:46):
you had are even longer because we just got now
we just in the habit of that's part of the
finished touch. Would you get it, give me information, make
it apa. Let's put it out there that way. If
people want to question are fat, they can click themselves
and go look at it themselves. And honestly, we just
did that bb B Big Beautiful Bill thing, and I

(39:07):
think we cided like twenty one oasis was out of
control and that.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
He broke it up into three parts just just to
cover it because it's so so massive. So since you
brought it up, let's get a little truth project going
on right here.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
So the the.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
And we're not making this up. This is the actual
name of the law, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
That's what he named its business, which.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Is very unseious because as all of us who have
seen Schoolhouse rock though, is that it starts as a
bill and once it becomes a law, it's an act.
But he liked that name so much that they called
it the one big, Beautiful Bill, and now it's act,
which is the dumbest fucking thing amongst all of the
other dumb fucking things that they did. This thing is

(40:01):
is almost one thousand pages long, and it is just
jammed full of all of the dumbest, puorkiest giveaway East
shit you could possibly imagine. On top of the main
goal of this, which is tax cuts for billionaires. I'm
calling a billionaire welfare and they're the billionaire welfare is financed.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
By killing everybody else.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yeah, taking money out of Medicaid and food stamps. And
I just to be very clear about why is this
finance right? Because you think, oh, well, they could just
cut taxes. They could just cut taxes. They passed this
with a method that's called reconciliation. And in order to
pass a bill by reconciliation, you don't If you pass
a bill by reconciliation, you don't have to hit the

(40:48):
filibuster threshold of sixty votes. So it allows the Senate
to pass this bill with only fifty one votes, which
is exactly how many they got thanks to the couch
fucker and they But utiliation is only allowed on matters
that are pertaining to the budget, and the budget only,
so there can't be policy directives in this. There can't
be laws, codes, new changes in any of that stuff.

(41:10):
It can only be stuff about the money, which is
ruled by the parliamentarian and so some of the stuff
that they were initially trying to do that got kind
of nixed. But the money can drive a lot of things,
right if you appropriate money for a certain policy, that
basically causes the policy to happen if you take away
money for But the other important thing about reconciliation is

(41:32):
it has to be budget neutral by the scoring, which
means that if you spend money, like say one hundred
and seventy billion dollars on a golden dome or whatever
the fuck that nonsense is about, you have to offset
that by reducing spending of an equal amount somewhere else.
And because they spend money giving it to billionaires, that

(41:55):
is what tax expenditures are. Those are spending. That is spending.
It's not cuts, it is spending giving money to billionaires.
They had to find that money someplace else, and they
found that by reducing spending in medicaid and food stamps, education, science,
and a bunch of other things. But those are the

(42:16):
big ones. Okay. So with all that being said, Malcolm,
give us a little truth about the One Big Beautiful
Bill Act, or as we call it, billionaire Welfare.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Do you know what?

Speaker 10 (42:28):
And I'm going to preference this by saying, I am
not a Democrat, I'm not a Republican. And if you
look at nine to nine point nine percent of stuff
I write, I'm I try to be destinate.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I give both sides, right, And there was there there there.

Speaker 10 (42:46):
They're a couple of large organizations that that I talked
to about this, about about some of the stuff that
goes on.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
And I'm not going to drop names, but.

Speaker 10 (42:57):
I always thought that they were Democrat or they like
the the same thought plus that I have. And and
and yesterday when we were talking, they said they actually
liked the bill.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
They liked the bill.

Speaker 10 (43:12):
They didn't like how the Republicans are pushing it, but
they liked the idea of states rights, they liked the
idea of les big government. There's a lot of things
that they like about Okay, which made me think about this.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
If it wasn't pushed.

Speaker 10 (43:33):
By Don Trump. And I don't like Donald Trump. I
think I think he's untrustworthy. He lies on the time, lied,
she he has, he has a a it's very hard
to believe anything come out of his mouth, right because
he he just has a track record of line.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It is okay.

Speaker 10 (43:48):
But if somebody like a George Bush, even on a
Reagan or any other Republican, had the same thought process
to push this type of and they did, they did
in different ways.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Did would we be so hard against it? Because and
and and I was talking to my dead I said, no, what.

Speaker 10 (44:11):
Maybe the hard part about it is that we know
he's bad, so he's going to take on a bad
part that can be used to his advance and used
to advantage. Right, but grand scheme isn't bad, Yes, just
like what hold on, Just like the immigration, the deportation
of all these immigrants.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
He's actually behind both Biden and Obama.

Speaker 10 (44:35):
I talked about it in another thing, right, But because
he has this theater mentality, he makes everything a show.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It looks like he's doing worse, but he's not. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
It's true that that he has not deported as many
people as Obama, who was, you know, notoriously known as
the deporter in chief. But it is also true. We
just got some stats that came out today about who
is being deported. And so while Obama did deport a
lot of people, nearly all of them had criminal convictions

(45:10):
for things other than coming into the country or walking
around without papers. And the reason that he did that
was because that's the easiest people to deport. You know,
where they are, they've got convictions, you can get an
easy order for deportation. And it's not controversial. Whereas we
know now from the numbers, the first numbers that we
got out of the deportation numbers from the Trump administration themselves,

(45:31):
that the vast majority something like five times the number
of people who were criminals people convicted, So five times
the number of people who were convicted of crimes other
than being in the country illegally that were deported were
no had no criminal convictions or criminal interactions at all.
So they are literally sweeping up people who are just

(45:54):
going about their daily lives, you know, at work or
at home or whatever. And that's why it feels so different,
because if you're if the pipeline goes like incarceration, you know, arrest, conviction, incarceration, deportation.
After the arrest, we don't see that person, right, And

(46:16):
and it's easy for Americans to say, well, that person's
a criminal, so you know, fuck them, Whereas in this case,
the pipeline is going from like guy standing on the
corner waiting for his friend to come out of the
store to deportation. And that looks crazy to us, and
it doesn't make sense because guy standing on the corner

(46:39):
doesn't look like a particular threat, and it turns out
he isn't. He's just standing there.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I think the only other thing I add to that
as well, too, is that the issue Donald Trump and right,
you can have your issues with the constitution, the rule
of law and the way it's set up. Now, right,
it doesn't it obviously is not work for many people
in this country. Right, it's only weak because at the time, right, right, exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
So, but they already established rules. Right.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
And if you have a nation state, right e specifically
this this specific nation, right, he is now flaunting the rules.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
And I always say this is a tip of the show.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
I was like, these is rules, white people created for
white folks, and now the white folks ain't even following
the rules, like they're not even following their own rules
that they've written down, and like everybody else here has
been trying to figure out how to play in the
system under these set of rules, because this is a
game in a sense. Sadly, the only problem is it
affects a bunch of people's lives. And this man is like, oh, yeah,

(47:33):
for me, specific right, I spent thirty thirty seven years
trying to figure out these sets of rules, to figure
out how I can navigate in this system. And now
it's just like, oh, we don't even play by no
rules no more. Oh okay, Like it's all out the window.
And I think that's the bat, that's the other piece
for me, that's all right.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Obama deported thousands and thousands of people, and every single
one of them went through court, and every single one
of them were legally adjudicated to be deported. Trump is
throwing people on airplanes and ditching them in countries they've.

Speaker 3 (48:02):
Never heard of, and then not listening to this and
not listening to the other branch of government when they say, hey,
that's not cool, and.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Judge orders them to come back, and and Trump's like
fuck that noise, so like that. That is why it
feels so crazy, even if the total numbers of people
are a little lower. But to your point, Okay, what
Trump is doing in terms of the tax uh expenditures

(48:29):
is no different from Bush or Reagan. This is very
classic trickle down economics. It has never worked. I'm waiting
for it to work. But yeah, what do you think
about that?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Now, don't get twisted. I am not agree with it.
I'm not saying they played devil agon. That's what they
should do, don't. I don't agree with it. You should
do this. But but I'll tell you what I always
tell people, always say this. I said, I can'tnot agree
with it.

Speaker 10 (49:03):
Wait wait, I don't like it, but I have to
give the opportunity because the majority of Americans voted for
then that particular administration has to have the opportunity to
enact there whatever they want because the majority rules, right, right,
that's the way it should be. And at this point,
and I've wrote, I wrote about this one hundred cent
whatever I say, one hundred percent polarization.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
I forgot the actual It's all my thing.

Speaker 10 (49:27):
But but the point but the point is we are
so polarized and it's not even middle anymore. You're either
far right far left, and the people in the middle
or the ones that are the aliens right. Think about it,
and if you're not, that means whatever happens that the
other side does you think it's so bad, so evil,

(49:48):
so hell fire that you can't see past the red
of your eyes to make sense of it. And I
say that because I have this conversation my dad. He
came down for my birthday and he's ranting. And I
talked about my dad a lot in my articles because
he is the epitome of the democrat, and I used

(50:09):
to seen it. You shouldn't be a Democrat, man, you
should tend to be a Republican based off your income
in your background.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
But okay, whatever, me too, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (50:18):
But but but.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
He is a story.

Speaker 10 (50:23):
And I was like, look just looking at from this
lens and then we'll have this debate and I say, no,
it's seen. Don't get mad me. I'm just playing demin
African because I just want you to to get from
that red eye and actually look at the other side
to have a conversation because if we can have two conversations,
then possibly we can meet in the middle. But the
first thing most people say is damn, look at these
liberals and it makes me so it actually makes me mad.

(50:47):
When people quote me on my Facebook or or on
my Twitter, you're being you're a liberal.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I can tell how liberal wrote this. I'm like, did
you read the article right? But anyway, sorry, no, but
your your.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Points that you know, even during the Obama administration, one
of the things that that I I was always saying
is that like he could propose puppies that ship gold
and cure cancer and the Republicans would vote against it
because of who it came from. And we are in that.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Moderate too, like it would be Barack Obama is a
severe moderate, right, Like.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I mean, yeah, let's let's be honest about where his
politics the policies. Yeah, but like, but Malcolm's right that, like,
if if Trump does anything that isn't terrible or even good,
it's very difficult for people like me to admit to
that because of how much other bad shike he.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Does I think a lot, but it's a lot the
way he the way his approach to China, I think
is something that was never done before, and I think
that is something that.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
You could look at. I think Operation Warp Speed.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Is one of the craziest things I've ever seen government
in act. I think that, like I don't know why, again,
I feel like he would have won a second term
if he'd ran on that.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Like a broken record on this. I mean it's it's
every time.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I've never seen any I've never seen the government strip
away bureaucracy to actually get something done so fast, which
like the vaccines, I find that could be one of
the more incredible things that have actually been done in
this country. So but he doesn't get credit, and he doesn't,
I mean doesn't doesn't want credit credit for that doesn't
feel like that.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
But I think those two for me, his his his
shift on China and the way he pushed those vaccines
out and for them to be as safe as they were.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
I find those to be the most incredible.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Also, appointed your hero Jerome Power.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
That's another one for me. I do like, I do
like that, I do I do that is, yes, I
agree with that one as.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, but he hates him now. So like, okay, the
the thing I didn't smoke before, but the trickle down thing,
you know, has been tried many times. Right, Reagan was

(53:10):
all about it. Hw was all about it. W was
all about it with the tax cut and the surplus
checks or whatever. Yeah, and uh, you know, if you
do look historically, you see Republicans in charge, either in
Congress or in the White House, and you see deficits

(53:30):
go up, you see the economy slowed down, you see recessions.
And then when you see Democrats following after them, their
job is always to basically put everything back together, right,
So then they get the economy to grow again, They
start to reduce the deficits, they start to increase jobs,
to increase you know, reduce inflation, all of those kinds
of things. And then people get to where it's feeling

(53:53):
pretty good and they stop thinking they got to try
that hard, and they're like, ah, it'll just go like
this forever. Let's go ahead and cut some taxes and
throw a bunch of money into the economy and see
what happens. There's no fucking inflation whatever, and then bam,
we're back in exactly the same spot. And then you
have to put a Democrat in charge that comes in
and says, now do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
God damn it.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
And then everybody does theory thing. God demn it for
like five minutes and then they're like, ah, this shiit sucks.
Let's have a kegger. This is the kegger.

Speaker 11 (54:19):
Democracy is difficult, right, well, you know the scary thing
is and you and you can look back to history, right,
most and most empires last what two?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
We are at our peak of time just by time?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Yeah, okay, A lot of people are mentioning that.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
You know, and and I hate to say it, and
I don't quote me on this, and I'm it's only
it's only you're just talking about.

Speaker 7 (54:48):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (54:49):
The sad thing is China is in a position to
be the next four power and to be the next
speaking of hope, I guess home whatever you call it,
which is scary because granted have a good technology, they
have a lot of good things, but so many things
they do, like the what is that thing where they
rate people by the way you treat people that's.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Completely social credit and all credit.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
What stuff like that.

Speaker 10 (55:14):
I mean, there's a large majority of people in America
that might not be on airplanes, so I might be
one of them. And I'm like, dang, so I want
to see America get better do better, grow, be fair,
And I just I'm just scared with this passor of
the of this thing that we're just going in the

(55:37):
wrong direction, not just for the economy, just in the
way we treat each other. And that's why the Truth
Product I want people to actually sit, think, read, sit, think, read,
you know, understand.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
So that gets me to my next question. Why do
you think that we as news consumers need something like
the Truth Project? And you know, what are you doing
that nobody else is doing? And I mean the compassion
that you just mentioned, you know that really comes through
and reading your stuff, you can you can definitely tell
that you're thinking about the human side of the story.

(56:10):
So what is it about about?

Speaker 7 (56:12):
You know?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Why do we need this? Do you know what I am?

Speaker 10 (56:15):
I'm a component of one thing. One person can change
the world. Okay, I believe it exponentially, wholeheartedly. If one
person can say yes, then two can, if Q can,
and four, if four and ten soulf and so on.
You just gotta get the first one to say it, right. Yeah,
So so it's better to show them than tell them.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
This is me showing. This is me showing journalists how
to properly tell a story.

Speaker 10 (56:42):
You're not putting to spend, you're not omitting stuff to
tell your side of the story when you're not trying
to change. There is a company that is very similar
to me. They're bigger and I'm not gonna native names.
I'm not gonna name the company start for Daily, but
I see their emails, I see the stuff, and they
spin hate. It physically makes me ill when I see

(57:05):
when I see a a an ad to say go
against the woke culture, buy the American flag or buy
our American T shirt, I'm.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Like, bro, what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
It's not about that.

Speaker 10 (57:16):
That's how you flame divisiveness, hate, racism, anger. The list
goes on, right, I don't want to be that.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
I don't. I think we're betting that.

Speaker 10 (57:30):
And and maybe I'm a boy Scout and I elected
my dad will be in a boy Scout, right, But
someone has to believe. And I hope the Truth Project
is something people can watch, listen, believe in, and trust.
And that's actually you know that. That's why I put
the sources. That's why I try to be in the middle,
because I don't want to make your mind up. I
just want to give your facts back by receipts and

(57:53):
let you decide what's right and wrong. Because if you
have kids, do you want the do you want your
kids to be bad?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
Want to be good?

Speaker 10 (58:00):
And anybody, I don't care if you're racist, not racist me.
You want your kids to be good.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
You know what I said, So just be like your kids.
How do you One question I have around this is right?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
It the hate and that seems to be what sells
right and that seems where people want to click on.
That seems to be where the engagement happens. And I'm wondering, like,
I mean, it's clear based on the content like that
gets the content that gets produced on there, the news
that's produced on there is that people like you have

(58:32):
to want to go seek that out. But do you
ever feel like you're battling like or do you not
care necessarily I'm not You're not here for clicks, right,
I mean, but I wonder to argue also you kind
of need to be here for clicks, right, because you
want as many people to get it. But is it
one of those things where it's like oh, by word
of mouth, like hey, I went to the Truth Project,
I read this and gets shared and then like minded
people get it out. I have questions around I guess engagement. Really,

(58:55):
I said, I don't.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (58:56):
I don't know what a good number is for people
come to your site. I don't know, because guess what,
when I had fifty people come to myself stack.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Stuff, I gotta do more.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Bam.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (59:10):
On Monday, if it's thirteen thousand and fifty, you know
what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh, okay, one day, Bam,
today it's the numbet almost doubled.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
So I see the difference. But I don't know if
that's good numbers bad. But I have no idea. But
but I didn't originally do for that. I did it
just because I wanted. I wanted to do it. I
thought I could make a difference. And my sister says
something very funny.

Speaker 10 (59:37):
Granted it's only four of us, very very small, right,
but because of my jury of visuals, I do everything.
I built the website. I build all the graphics, I
do all the video, I do all the editing, I
record everybody put it all together. I don't need anybody.
It's just my time to do it, you know. And
that's what I bring to this this particular endeavor. I'm

(59:59):
not smart one, but I'm very good when it comes
to creativity, you know, and that allows us to be
as nimble as possible, do as much as we can
and pretty much, look, I think more professional some of
the lands and the washing the polls out there because

(01:00:19):
they don't do video. I could throw video together because
my video has been on HBO and everywhere. Actually, so
it's just is what it is, you know, if that
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
They're working on doing a lot more video content at
the post and I kind of don't like it because
I would rather than focus on writing. But that's because
I'm an old grouchy man. But I but to test
his point, like, you know, clicks is one thing, but
like engagement from people who really want to be there,
not people who accidentally ended up there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
You're right. And I looked at.

Speaker 10 (01:00:55):
Today, I had a conversation my dad and not talking
to my dad and my parents a lot, right, and
I was like, what the average people on my sight
day was twelve minutes and thirty something secul or something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
That's a long time. That's a long time.

Speaker 10 (01:01:11):
It's a long So I told my dad said, that's
a long time. Wow, and you already heard the number
it was twelve minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I'm like, dang, I mean you're reading like two or
three articles.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
That it was the average, like three point six or something.

Speaker 10 (01:01:26):
But those three point six one of them was big
but the inside the Big Beautiful Bill bill too, and
the other one was polarization.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So those two got read the most of that. But
I think people are engaging.

Speaker 10 (01:01:40):
I just don't know what's going to happen next week
with different articles, you know what I'm saying. Sure, the
Big the Big Beautiful Bill was just something that was
I hope if none of anomaly. But I did something
I think that other other journalists didn't do, which is broken.
We broke it down and Layman's term not lower speaks,

(01:02:01):
so peep can follow it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, it was certainly well well and like I said,
like go check it out if you haven't gone, go
to uh TV newsroom dot com. But and and and
look at that because it's in You broke it into
three pieces so that you can take your time and
really study it and and understand all of these sections
in it and the way that you wrote it down it.
You know, it's like, this is the thing that's in here.

(01:02:25):
Some people say it's gonna do that. You know, this
expert said this, This expert said this. This is the
score that CBO gave it, this is the info that
GAO has. It's related to you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
And it's it wasn't that you make you make it
sound boring. It wasn't that boring.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
I was about to say, like, no, this is this
is I mean, this is the most sincereous compliment you
can imagine. It was written almost without personality. It was
written to be factual, like a textbook almost, which it's
not boring if you're interested in the subject, but it's it.
It is not written to sensationalize anything. And I think

(01:03:02):
that that is a critical difference, because even the straight
news that you read now, you know, in order to
maintain that engagement, in order to get those clicks, in
order to keep eyes on it, there is a flare
to it, a sensationalist flare to everything, and I'm not
sure that that's suitable for this kind of I mean,
one of the reasons I listen to NPR so much

(01:03:23):
is because they have no flare. I mean, you know,
the joke about NPR being dry and boring, yeah, and
I like it that way because I just want the news.
I don't want them to have like thoughts and opinions.
I just want them to tell me what happened today.
So I mean, that is the most sincere compliment. You're
You're the writing on there is very matter of fact.

(01:03:45):
It's very just the facts, ma'am. And I think that
it is that to answer my own question of what
do we as news consumers need that the Truth Project gives.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
It's that record.

Speaker 10 (01:03:59):
I do have a form of h I mean, make
myself something is the stuff that I always if you ever,
if you ever read it, the stuff right. The first
paragraphs are the why it masks to me or what
another to two people personally?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
What made it?

Speaker 10 (01:04:16):
That's why you always see a story about my father
or my friend or whatever. It's something, that's why it
matters to me. And then the next group we talk
about the actual facts. We throw the facts in, we
do two sections of it, and then the very bottom
section is the five w's, and you'll see I always
hit the five of the who, what, when?

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Why? Wear? Why does it matter? How to the help?
Who doesn't hurt? Why should you care? That way?

Speaker 10 (01:04:43):
People can't understand it and put it back into it.
That's just something we follow it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, the format works well, especially when you listen to
the articles too.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
And in that that format with the with the scoring
and all that is perfect and and it is a
great way to explain these are these are complicated issues.
You know, we come on here every week and try
to explain these these complex things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Well and not doing a great job of it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
We rely very heavily on a lot of inside jokes.
We shorthand a lot of things because Tesz and I
are voracious news consumers and can convey long, complex ideas
by simply making one reference to some other thing that
happened however many years ago, that that's not always the
way that people want to consume stuff or or get
their information. So, you know, spelling it out but also

(01:05:33):
making it relatable. It's it's quality stuff. I just got
to say, go go check it out. So I have
a couple more questions. One is, are you going to
go back to making movies again? And if so, how
can people like keep up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
With that stuff?

Speaker 10 (01:05:52):
I'm old, No, no, no, no, no, I'm old. You
know I always tell people to my very first contract
back when it was twenty fourteen. I got a huge
contract to make that DoD commercial. It was four shoots,
four days. I had marines and also stuff around if
it's the coolest thing, right, But I slept for like

(01:06:14):
two weeks after that, Right, and I was thirty thirty two,
I think thirty three thirty two at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I am forty eight years old today. No, I don't.
I don't like lugging stuff. I don't like doing that.

Speaker 10 (01:06:28):
I still do film, and it's a passion. But this thing,
this thing has become the new passion, if that makes sense.
It's it's bigger than the service of making videos and
telling stories through video, because this is real life stories.

(01:06:48):
And if I do it right, I can bring new
people into the fold to look past their clouded lens
and see both sides and make informed decisions properly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
You know, I talk about like a mission driven.

Speaker 7 (01:07:07):
Period.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Yeah, you're nicer, better person than we are. All right,
So what do you think about putting some tipchat episodes
on on the website?

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
You know, Oh, my god, is a shameless operation we
run here. It's a shameless way. You always do this
every guest.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
You know, we're a similar.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
We do the news. He does the news my daughter
when she was six months old.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Some you know, always fishing, He's always fishing on this
we can Yeah, boys, I'll be I'll be quiet, read
all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
He's really smart. You should put him on the on
on the videos or something, you.

Speaker 12 (01:07:49):
Know, like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Gameless man, we're a shameless operation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
Do you hear those headlines? That was dynamite? Stuff should
be on weekend Update? We're that good?

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
You know? We don't. We don't. We don't suffer from
self confidence.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
You know, what's you know what's different. The only difference
between us and Update is that that CHA does work.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
And I am the look I am? I am. I
am the problem here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Even again, I do have one long form interview out
in my belt that I did a few weeks ago.
I do have one I did in three four years,
I didn't. I finally did some work. Looking man, outside
of work be killing me. I'm sorry, I understand, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
So with that being said, Malcolm, where can everybody go
to read the stuff, to get the videos, to get
the audio everything. It's it's a huge experience. Where where
should people go?

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Please do me favor.

Speaker 10 (01:08:44):
I would love you guys go to T Pete, Tom Popeye,
neewsroom dot com. That's easiest, Tom Popeye Newsroom and E
W S R O O M dot com and it
would take you straight to the website. And on the
website we have documentaries, all the documentaries on there. Of course,
we have the Ripple Effect, which are the daily news.
We have Undercurrent, which is a podcast style rant. We

(01:09:09):
got fragments which are one minute or less pieces. There's
only three of them, but they're phenomenal to take take
them all in. And of course you have merchandise. We
we started carrying on magazine, so you can what a
magazine got T shirts. Also the random stuff that is, uh,
it's fun. It's fun to's fun to see, fun to use.

(01:09:30):
Hopefully you like it and hopefully you guys will want
to join us on Facebook, Twitter, everything in between.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
All Right, there you go, Incredible War Newsroom, Credible dot com.
Now when we're done, we're gonna have clips and stuff
we'll post next week. Uh so we'll link to that
and we'll we'll tag you in all of those those things.
Of course, I I don't know if Brian's a Hall
of An editor, So you know, you can judge it.
I'm not. I don't have anything to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Do with it. Maybe you look young, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (01:09:59):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Off, put the filter on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
I need ten years.

Speaker 7 (01:10:08):
Ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Can you put a ten year filter on my knees?
That would be amazing. They're not supposed to talk. Okay,
Oh my god, Now who's an old man?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I've been old still?

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Do you have an onion tied to your belt? Because
that was the style of the time. All right, anyway,
thank you, Malcolm. Go to TV newsroom dot com. Check
out everything that they got going on over there. Uh,
we're gonna take a break. We'll come back with the
third half of the show. Thank you once again to Malcolm,
and go to m j R Visuals if you need
any of your video editing and all that kind of
good stuff. You can do everything for you guys. Amazing

(01:10:48):
And I'm so lucky that we've you know, known each
other for all this time and get to be friends.
It's just a fantastic part of this life that I
never thought I would get to have. So all right,
we're gonna take a break. We'll be right back. You're
listening to Tipcat on Beltley Radio. Mbie, you're going.

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(01:13:45):
As you see, if you are watching us online, what
the fuck was that? Brian? And beyond dot com? You'll
see a.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Banner for the Sandy Hook Promise and you might say,
has what is the Sandy Hook Promise?

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Sandy Hook Promise is a national nonprofit organization founded and
led by several family members whose loved ones were killed
at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December fourteenth, twenty twelve.
Based in Newtown, Connecticut, their intend is to honor all
victims of gun violence by turning our tragedy into a
moment of transformation, by empowering youth to quote know the signs.

(01:14:22):
In uniting all people who value the protection of children,
we can take meaningful action in schools, homes, and communities
to prevent gun violence and stop the tragic loss of life.
At any time we play Alex Jones, who is I
don't know what you call it? Is a Sandy Hook
denier calls the false flag operation I think, which is

(01:14:44):
obviously not the case. They killed all those little kids
and we didn't care as a country. I always think
that you should go to sand Hook, Promise dot org
and a pound that donate button, and why once you
leave there you need to head off to the Truth
Project and go buy some merch as well too. But
I always find that necessary to say after we've watched
those videos for a number of years.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
It was the new one that is a full world. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
A lot of Hitler on this show, which don't know
a little too much big h on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
I'm just saying that was like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
A combination of Alex Jones and some sort of like
AI animation, so that that had some weird ship going
on there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
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Isn't that what the name is it?

Speaker 9 (01:15:55):
I think that's based off of whatever in the video,
is like probably some like mushroom drink or whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
I'm scared.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
I'm not I'm Brian Joe google that while we do
the next part of the show and tell us what
the fuck the DMT is. I I don't. I don't
like that that that. I mean, yeah, play it again sometime,
but but.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
But don't God haven't making the frogs gay?

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
So uh yeah about that. Let me just tell this
very brief story. But somebody that I know had this
experience where their son was playing with little girls and
they were all doing makeup, and like they were putting

(01:16:45):
makeup on the little boy and putting makeup on each
other and doing you know whatever, and he lost his
shit and like was like, no, we don't do that,
and and I can't control him when he's eighteen, but
I can control him now and and and he was like, yeah,
that's how that's how they turn him gay. And I

(01:17:06):
was like, oh god, I've never actually met anybody who
actually thought we've never had you never even catch the gay. Yeah,
I don't think. I don't think I've ever met anybody
who actually believed that. I know people say it because
they're sort of kidding about it, but this was a

(01:17:28):
very jarring experience that somebody who I know to be
capable of like tying their own shoes and going to
work every day, believes that you can catch gay from makeup,
and it's yeah, I've been laughing about this week. So then,

(01:17:50):
of course, you know, in discussing this, the thing that
comes up is they're turning the frogs carry and and
I'm like, this is this is everything, right, this is
this is Alex Jones. This is people who think that
makeup makes frogs.

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Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Okay, all right, d m T.

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Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Is this stuff that you get from licking frogs?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Pretty much? Is this that Aaron Rodgers shit ayahuasca? You
said it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
It occurs in animals, It's got to be the frogs, right,
like trip?

Speaker 8 (01:19:07):
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It's d MT is often used in various culture rituals,
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Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Do you understand the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Toad thing that comes from from licking toads?

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
All right, okay, yeah, right, it's turning the frogs gry.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
That's the moment. That is exactly it. I don't know
if Peter likes this, allowed the lick toads.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I think the toads kind of like it. Maybe ribbit,
how do you get consent from a frog? I don't
even know, you know what your ribbit?

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
Wow? Oh god? Oh Christ?

Speaker 8 (01:20:16):
Okay, that that was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
That was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
Okay, uh. Let's move on to the next segment. This
one's called Court Losses Special Rundown. This is a special
edition of the Run Announces where I tell you about
some stuff that's going on in the court news. If
we were professionals, it would sound a little something like.

Speaker 14 (01:20:34):
This from Beltway Radio and Beyond in Washington, DC. I'm
Emmy nominated TV news man and just bona fide sexual beast,
Chase Scott Smith. And this is the part of the
show where I tell some stuff about the well maybe
not me, but somebody else is gonna tell some stuff
about what's happening in the news. So what's going on
in the news, fellas, Thanks Jake Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
I was waiting for that. It's gonna be somewhere. I
just waited.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
I thought it was gonna drop a beginning when they
So in honor of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Jay, We're gonna go not to Michigan, but to right
next door in Wisconsin. You may know that there is
this place called Wisconsin, and that it's a very divided states,
very purple state. There was just a Supreme Court election
there that Elon tried to buy and stupidly wore a cheesehead,
looking very very dumb, and lost and lost right, and

(01:21:25):
so the liberal pro choice judge won. And that was
important because this week, a divided Supreme Court on Wednesday
allowed abortions to continue in this day, blocking a nineteenth
century law that for a time had effectively banned the
procedure in nearly all instances. The ruling is a victory

(01:21:45):
for abortion rights advocates who have flipped the elected court's
ideological makeup in twenty twenty three, and puts protections for
the procedure on firm firmer footing. It represents a setback
for abortion opponents in the swing state who had hoped
Wisconsin would join the states that limited or banned the
procedure after Rose overturned in twenty twenty two. So, you know,

(01:22:07):
briefly after the Dobbs decision, health care providers in Wisconsin
stopped providing abortions because this law was on the books
that weren't really sure whether it was still enforced or not.
And you know, there was a number of lawsuits about this,
and anyway, it finally got to the Wisconsin Supreme Court
and it finally has been adjudicated. Now it's shaky because

(01:22:29):
Lord knows that Elon or somebody else can try to
buy a judge and you know, flip this again, but
for the time being, are if you are a pregnant
person in need of healthcare in Wisconsin, you are probably
safe to get it. So hooray, that's a court loss
for the Trump beastas that was the state level. You

(01:22:51):
ready for a federal one. Let's go Okay, A federal
judge in the District of Columbia ever heard of it
on Wednesday barred the Trump and minister from expelling asylum
seekers from the United States, dealing a blow to the
administration's efforts to curtail crossings at the southern border. So
here's the sort of underlying guts of this. There isn't

(01:23:16):
a legal justification or law that Trump could use to
just summarily kick out everybody who's waiting on asylum claims.
Once you're here and presented your claim for asylum, you're
protected from deportation pending the adjudication of your asylum claim.
But what he did do was he cited a law

(01:23:37):
that said that the United States was being invaded, and
therefore he could take extraordinary steps to handle the invasion.
That law exists for like a legitimate invasion, like let's say,
I don't know, Costa Rica decided to invade the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
And like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Try to beat us in penalty kick, which they didn't do.
The President could naturally defend the United States, maybe better
than our fullbacks. And then kicked them out. But that's
not what's happening. So, in one hundred and twenty eight
page decision, the US District Judge Randolph D. Moss invalidated

(01:24:19):
the proclamation that Trump had signed on his first day
that had declared the invasion and invoked all these emergency powers,
and then he stayed his ruling for fourteen days, pending
a likely appeal from the Trump administration. Now that's like
the operable bit of this, right. But there's this other
kind of important and necessary thing to talk about. We

(01:24:42):
probably remember last week that the Supreme Court or the
end yea at the end of last week, the Supreme
Court basically stopped district courts from being able to issue
nationwide injunctions on laws and policies. So before this, both
parties presidents had complained that like, yeah, you can find

(01:25:05):
one judge, one district court judge to say like, oh,
I don't like what the administration's doing nationwide injunction. Stop
what you're doing while this is being adjudicated, and then
it always goes up to the circuit and to everything else,
but during that time they can stop at nationwide. This
leads to a lot of judge shopping. People try to

(01:25:26):
bring these lawsuits in places where they know they're going
to get the right judge that they want. Like there's
that that one guy in North Texas who's the only
judge in that district and he always rules in the
most conservative way possible. So the Supreme Court was like, no,
you can't do that anymore. You can only stay things
or issue in junctions in your district. You can't issue

(01:25:48):
any nationwide injunctions anymore, which they probably got right.

Speaker 7 (01:25:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
I think the only question I have though, is that
isn't the second part that that only those specific individuals, right,
if you do rule in their favor, it can only
be that. And then it's like, I guess they say
that the class action is the way you go about
this too, So that's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Exactly where we're going with this, right. So beer Can
Brett wrote this extra bit of the opinion that said that, Okay,
no more nationwide injunctions for district court judges. Which, to
be clear, it's there are bad versions of this, there's
also really good versions of this where you've got, like,
you know, rampant abuse by the administration doing something that's

(01:26:32):
patently ridiculous or bullshit or illegal, and the judge could
put a stop to it, but they couldn't put a
stop to it outside of the district or outside of
the plaintiffs who brought the case, unless they could issue
these greater injunctions. But beer can Brett wrote this this
extra bit that says, if you have a certified nationwide class, right,

(01:26:53):
you can issue an injunction that protects that class. So
interesting bit here, right, Judge Moss did two things. First,
he certified the asylum seekers as a class, and then
he ruled, and he put the injunction on it, which

(01:27:14):
creates like a bit of a blueprint for how to
do this properly should it be necessary. The criticism of
the class action aspect of this is that it's usually
very difficult, costly, and there's a high bar to getting
a class certified. But if the judge is the one
doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
There's no bar.

Speaker 7 (01:27:33):
He can just do it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Doesn't so that was the trick.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
So Moss, as part of his ruling on Wednesdays, certified
all asylum seekers quote currently present in the United States
as a legal class, making his ruling applicable to most
people who would be affected by Trump's policies. Class action
lawsuits are one avenue that the Supreme Court justice is
suggested in their birthright citizenship ruling, the lower courts could
still provide odd belief to many people in the same situation.

(01:28:02):
So that's the move. We've seen it, we know how
it works. Go forth and do what you need to
do to protect the people out there. So damn Trump loss.
He lost at the state level. Now I just lost
at the federal level. You want to see him lose
at the Supreme level.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Let's go, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
The Supreme Court on Friday upheld a Texas law blocking
children from seeing online pornography. Yeah, yeah, that's a that's
a loss for Trump. You know that nearly half of
the states have passed similar laws requiring adult website users
to verify the ages to access porn. The law comes
as smartphones and other devices make it easier to access

(01:28:44):
online porn, including all kinds of stuff. Here's the interesting thing.
The court split along ideological lines. The three liberals, all women,
were like, yeah, let people have porn, and all the
cranky old men who all definitely have VP ends and
are watching porn by the way, we're like, no, no

(01:29:05):
porn for the people. So uh, and of course, the
majority opinion was authored by porn expert himself, Neighbor Clarence,
who found the measure didn't seriously restrict adults free speech
rights and quote, adults have the right to access speech
obscene only to minors, but adults have no First Amendment
right to avoid age verification.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Okay, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
I don't think this is gonna matter very much.

Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
Right, this is stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Yeah, you're the expert at this, but like, isn't there
this is I'm sure there's an easy way to get
around this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
Right, there's like the curtain. It's like the curtain that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
The beating curtain at the back of Arrols.

Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
So pretty much it's it's like it's overkill.

Speaker 9 (01:29:53):
A lot of a lot of the adult sides, most
namely porn have have Are you put these measures up
well in advance, like you know, and for doing something
like this, it's kind of like, Okay, we already did this.
This is like point I'm saying, it's like we are
kind of Disney this now. I don't know why you
want if you want to do this, go right ahead.
You're just wasting time and money and and I just

(01:30:17):
think that again, Yeah, there, there are gonna be some
of those curiosity kids who are going to find a
way to bypass some of these things, probably go to
another state or what have you, but they'll find ways
to get through it. And but if you but I
think that if you wait, a lot of these adult
sites now they are putting more and more restrictions on

(01:30:39):
things to prevent a kid under the age of eighteen
going through. So I don't know that I have all
the details of this, but from what I was reading,
I think the issue in at hend in Texas was
how they were requiring the age verification that they they
wanted to set up something where people had to basically,

(01:31:01):
uh like send their license or a picture of their
license to the to the porn website to prove that
they're of age and that people were.

Speaker 8 (01:31:11):
And that's violating privacy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
So I.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Porn website, right, yeah, I mean if you can't.

Speaker 9 (01:31:20):
If it's like you put you already put a lot
of information are onto the site as well, because especially
it's a paid one. If you're paid one, mind, you
you're gonna put it on your credit card, which again
verifies your age right then, and they're anyway, So but
how you want to send a copy of your driver's
license or birth certific or gods what else.

Speaker 7 (01:31:41):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:31:42):
Again, you're you're putting that person exposing their you know,
their age and pretty much where they live and all
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Never have breaches.

Speaker 8 (01:31:53):
Yeah right, so test that's true, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
But you're the you're the sort of like cyber expert here.
But like that seems unsafe to me.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
Yeah, unsafe.

Speaker 9 (01:32:04):
I mean, yes, it's that's why I think this is overkilled.
It's so overkilled it to me. It's just like, look,
you're trying to I know, you're trying to quote unco
protect kids from the from these sites. But again it's like, okay,
you're you're trying to have a person who wants to

(01:32:27):
have a nice private moment, you know, watching his favorite
adult star, and you want to have the put the
or her put all this, you know, stuff out there
to make sure that they're of age.

Speaker 8 (01:32:41):
All this just to say they're of age.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
So I just protect kids. I learned my best moves
from them.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Yeah right. One of the things that that I know
is like if you go to a beer website, let's
say you log in the butte, yes, it pops up
this thing that says like put in your birthday and
and you can just put in anything you want, right,
you don't have to put in your actual birthday, but
unless it adds up to twenty one years old, they
don't let you through. How come that's sufficiently good for that,

(01:33:11):
but it's not sufficiently good for porn like.

Speaker 9 (01:33:14):
More dangerous because I again, when you have to deal
with the Bible belt, that's one they view that fact
is like, there's more danger in watching someone having sex
with somebody and having you know, you know, you know,
trying to get a kegger out of you know, out

(01:33:35):
of a website. It is it's ass backwards, you know,
no buckshots here. But yeah, but the thing is, I
mean their priorities is ridiculous. I mean they for years
they do for some odd reason, they they view sex

(01:33:56):
as the worst thing on the planet, even though they
keep inbreeding a lot a lot of are they.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Telling on themselves, Like isn't this obvious that that if
it matters that much to you, it's because there you've
got a like a thing about this.

Speaker 8 (01:34:11):
Or something hidden.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
So again, cyber expert TZ, because this is a state
by state patchwork, right, and it depends on your location
information that your ISP would give to the website, because
like Pornhub doesn't know what state you're in, it's it's
your ISP that's telling it you know what state you're in,
and therefore whether to follow this rule or not. Correct

(01:34:38):
me if I'm wrong, But I'm sure there's ways to
get around your location being included in what what gets
sent to the website right when.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
You go to logit VPNs, right, that's yeah, VPN could
be I mean, could make that their VPNs can make
wherever you want to show up from.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
Yeah, I mean, isn't that the whole thing that like
people in China and Iran or whatever, they use VPNs
to like get news as the firewalls can't tell where
they're at, right, So what's the point here, Like, isn't
this easily defeatable?

Speaker 9 (01:35:09):
Yes it is, but again for Texas, it's something to
where they feel like they're like like again, it's all theater.

Speaker 8 (01:35:18):
It's you know, they're it's a conservative win, right exactly,
that's what they think it is. But again, there will
be ways to beat around this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:35:27):
So at that type of beating for some people, especially intact,
is they.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Won't be getting beaten anywhere, there's a way to beat
off this law.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Oh god, you guys have fucking jerk off.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
How soon until we have a scandal where one of
the Texas lawmakers or whatever states have banned this uh
gets caught, you know, watching porn in the chamber. Because
it doesn't that that keeps happening all the time too, right,
is like you know, the cameras catch somebody watching porn
on their laptops supposed.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
To be in.

Speaker 1 (01:36:08):
Or whatever, literally in Congress. Yeah, what do you want
to what's the over under on a Texas lawmaker who
voted for this law getting busted watching porn at work
in the state House in Austin six months?

Speaker 8 (01:36:27):
No, I'll say sixty nine days?

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
All right, so two and a half months, Brian says,
I'll take I'll take the over on that. I think
it'll take a little longer than that. What do you
think tees.

Speaker 15 (01:36:45):
Over and over and under is the wrong choice words here?
It should the top and bottom. He just went right
in and out of that one. Good, All right, let's move.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
On, all right, speaking of let's do a little tes
talk here.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
Yes, this one might not be about dead ass birds,
but it is about something that tes knows an awful
lot about, which is the AI and the copyrights.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Yes, this one here is very interesting actually looking through here.
It is a tumultuous time for copyright in the United States,
obviously with these potentially economy shaking AI copyright lawsuits, right
or wanting through the courts to sum that up. Right,
These large language models are built on the Internet. So

(01:37:41):
anything from right, the Washington Post articles, New York Times,
even us here on Chipchat, it's fed into this, right,
It's scraped off the Internet and fed into these large
language models, most popular one obviously probably being open AI
is Chat, schippt Yeah, and a lot of folks are like, hey,
the reason it has this knowledge quote unquote is because

(01:38:05):
of the knowledge I actually put my time in, like
to create a story and for a long time, right, Like,
the Copyright Office's history has obviously been described as sleepy.
But I think now in with the AI moomen they
talk about this in this article, right, it is huge.
But what if I told you that the US Copyright

(01:38:27):
Office hasn't had a leader in more than a month.
So in May the copyright rester uh Shira, I think
it's Pearl Mutter. I believe it was abruptly fired by
email White House Deputy Director of Personnel, which you know,
that's how to fire people for the most part of
the last few months, and promoter is now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
Soon to Trump administration a leegending.

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
Her fire was invalid and that the government, the government
maintains that the executive branch right, they can fire whoever
the hell they want. However, I think later in this
there's the Library of Congress is actually or the Congress's librarian, right,
it is actually the person who should be the one
who controls the fate of the specific role. And obviously

(01:39:11):
this firing kind of followed the pattern of other firings here.
But again, the Copyright Office is part of the Library
of Congress, and she's been appointed to that role by
the Librarian of the Congress, Carla Hayden. Hayden, who had
been in the role for since twenty sixteen, was also
fired by the White House email figures, and the White

(01:39:33):
House pointed Deputy Attorney Todd blanch w had previously served
as president from the Defense Attorney as the new acting
Librarian of Congress, which is just insane. And then they
have in this article here they're saying like two days
after per Mother's firing, the Just Department official Paul Perkins
showed up the Copyright Office along with colleagues brian Nevessnivez

(01:39:54):
excuse and according to the Alpha David filed by Paramtter,
they were carrying quote printed versions of emails from Blanche
indicating that they had been appointed the new roles.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
Within the Copyright Office.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
Perkins, the email said, was designated as the acting Register
of the Copyrights. In other words, he was a prime
Mother's replacement. But obviously, like the larger thing I think
for me is AI in general needs to be regulated.

(01:40:28):
And I think we saw this with like the Internet
and how we again, I just my feelings around section
two thirty are varying times, but like regardless that the
government should put some especially on this type of technology
that does have the power, right, I think we see
it in the videos that we watch here or just again,

(01:40:49):
AI is eventually going to be that tool that could
be used for a lot of good but also could
be used for a.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Lot of bad stuff that it already is being used.
These things do lie as well to be completely.

Speaker 3 (01:41:02):
Transparent, and yeah, a lot these things lie, and I
think it's crazy that it's not even crazy though. It
almost seems design of the design of the plan right
that you remove the person in charge of the copyright,
and that kind of allows you to kind of like

(01:41:24):
get around some of these lawsuits.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
There's nobody there, right, maybe aren't valid exactly because it
has to be the person who signs it, who is
like the you know, like when you look at a
dollar bill, there's these two signatures on it. One is
the Secretary of the Treasury and one is the treasurer. Okay,
and there's two different roles and nobody knows what they do.

(01:41:46):
But without those things, the dollar bill is invalid, right
they get printed on it. The same thing is true
about copyrights. They have the thing like printed on So
without this person or the copyrights even real.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
No, I mean goes back to the whole thing that
we were talking about with Malcolm. It's like just there
are these rules that have been in place for a
long time and now we're just circumventing these rules. And
you can't really run a nation like that because everything
else like other it's a domino effect and other things

(01:42:24):
start to fall when you do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
This right, And that's why I'm worried about it. Ai,
you're not stopping.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
It's here to stay. But it needs to be regulated.
And this is this is an end run around the regulation.
Here's an example of why it needs to be regulated.

Speaker 2 (01:42:43):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:42:44):
I just went to the chat GPT and I asked
it a question if it could tell us a joke
in the style of our show. Okay, and it says,
here's a joke in the spirit of Chipchat, A playful,
a little irreverent, with that pop culture meets dad joke tone.

(01:43:05):
Chip and tes love to drop mid convo.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
So far, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Here it goes you ready, Chip Man, I tried online
dating last week. Not a thing I've ever said on
this show. Tes Oh boy, how'd that go? Also not
a thing you've ever said, Chip? Like Windows update during
a job interview? Slow, awkward, and at some point I
just shut down tz Dang. Did she at least restart

(01:43:33):
you later? Okay, Chip, Nope, she said I wasn't compatible
with her operating system. Tes sounds like she was still
running on iOS insecure over swipe Q funky outro beat
and Tesz mumbling something about Android supremacy.

Speaker 7 (01:43:54):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Wait, it's so off base.

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
I'm gonna have to look at the here's the next
question asked, want one with a political twist or something topical?
Chipchat loves to roast headlines too, so it's paying some attention,
it is, but it's not getting it right. It is
hallucinating that you would choose android supremacy.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
That is that that's crazy, just.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
Like you can call it as a lot of things,
but if you call them the US, we're fighting the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Hell out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
What it looks what I apologize to my overlords. That
was not me, No, but yeah, it's it's clearly that.
But again, it has been able to scrape the internet, right,
and it's scraped our show and some of that was
right Actually that means except that first part was a
you know, it's kind of let's the spot on. But

(01:44:55):
then the question becomes, we need The way it gets
better is training it on more and from and that
more information would be copywritten information.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Right, that's the problem there, it is that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Only way, and then you have to pay for it
and stuff, and that's and there's where and there's where
I think The Times has that suit, right, Times.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
Had a suit, but then they cut a deal.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
They did cut a deal. Yeah, they cut a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
Deal with Chat GPT I think and maybe some of
the others to allow them to license their content. But
they get paid for it, and that's the piece.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
It has to happen, So the folks getting paid if
it's learning on the content. And I think this is
a bigger thing that we missed in the initial like
the Internet, right, like users should have always been paid
for giving their data away and their information and that
should be and the companies have enough money.

Speaker 1 (01:45:52):
To do this, well they do now because they've sold
us as the product to the advertisers and now it
would have to shift the other way where they would
have to pay us.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Never get I need a data privacy That's why again
before I always folks want AI regulation.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
But I think even before that, it always will start
with a data.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Privacy law in this country because it needs to start
there before we can even do anything else, like a
comprehensive data privacy.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
But that's never happening. Nope. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
You want to see what it said when I asked it, Ah,
it said a political It wants to try a political one.
Here's a chipchat style political joke, just the right mix
of sarcasm and did they just say that energy chip
and TES are known for.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
Okay, that's not wrong. So far, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Let's see ted. So Congress just passed a bill. Nobody
read again, Chip classic reading the bill is now considered
retro Tez. At this point, I'm convinced they treat like
iTunes terms and conditions. Chip. Yeah, just scroll, click, agree,
and pray it doesn't ban Wi Fi Tez. I asked

(01:47:09):
my senator what was in the bill. He said, good question,
I'll check. TikTok q laugh track and someone playing the
national anthem on a kazoo.

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
I don't have a senator, that's our kazoo.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
It's closer.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
It's scary though the parts it gets right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
Ah, the parts that he gets right to me is
very scary because like, yo, yeah, it is clearly ingested
our show. But you have, like with different versions of
I've been playing around a lot of these these custom GPTs.
That probably is more where these things can be a
little I would find more useful with the custom GPS.

(01:47:55):
You could actually like feed it specific articles and things
of that nature, videos like and then it should go
ahead and give.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
You a trup.

Speaker 3 (01:48:03):
But I think what we and I preached this a
lot when I kind of talk to folks about AI,
is that you know, what are the use cases for it?

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
And like it's usually like when I need to do
something that's very.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Repetitive, but you need whatever work the AI is allowing
you to create, it is your work. And I do
think the human element of checking it is the is
on us. The onus is on us to do that.
And it's clear that a lot of folks are just
letting it do it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Yeah, Like I just let it write that whole report.
And then he was like, what are you talking about?
There's these are false studies by scientists who don't they
didn't do that.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
But I was trying to use it to find all
the computer science deeds from like HBCUs in this area, right,
And I don't trust it so much, to the point
where I went and did some digging first on like
three for on my own, just to see what it
was going to push back.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
It did a good job actually for the most part,
I got everything right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
But but you're asking it a thing that is essentially
a Google search. It's not complex actly, and it doesn't
have an opportunity to really hallucinate a whole right.

Speaker 3 (01:49:17):
And that's how I find Those are the things that
I use it for, like as another for the US Open,
the Golf Championship, I used it and create a customer
GPT like for it to just give me updates for
stuff like I asked it questions things.

Speaker 2 (01:49:32):
Of that nature. Like. It was very useful for that
for the most part. So so if you see I
see you put something in here.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Yeah, I put it in the chat. It didn't it's
a little too long, but you can see that it
doesn't talk like us at all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
We don't. We don't never said kazoo on this show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:55):
Yeah. I also have never said yo, chill, So it's
not Have you ever started a sentence with the word facts?

Speaker 12 (01:50:05):
No? No?

Speaker 9 (01:50:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Yeah. But what is funny is that this one ends
with ce beat droping, someone yelling I miss Michelle Obama
from the background, And I think that's because it's paying
attention to Brian's sound effects. So the Brian Show lives
on EPT as well. All right, let's get away from

(01:50:32):
this stupid AI and go on to even stupider humans.
This one is called uh sexy News. Now, we did
talk a little bit about the court's ruling on making
it harder to access porn unless you have a VPN
in certain states. I guess this one is about a

(01:50:53):
Texas of Europe, right, So Tez, where are you from?

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Nominally I'm from the City of London.

Speaker 1 (01:51:02):
Yeah, well that's where this one takes place. Dateline, London, UK.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
I'm mad an accent. I had accent in RP.

Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
Uh yeah, I don't. I don't remember the BBC theme
all right. So UK Parliament this week debated proposed amendments
to depending Crime and Policing Bill that's always good causes
criminalizing something called choking content and potentially outlawing paying for
sex acts in cam performances and custom clips. I guess

(01:51:41):
they're hanging out with Greg Abbott uh MPNA and Toonia
Nazi heck of a names. Yeah, I just read them.
Uh yeah. She introduced a Commercial Sexual Exploitation Amendment, which

(01:52:04):
would make it a crime to pay for sex. I
didn't know that wasn't already a crime in Britain. She
told the House of Commons that her goal is quote
sending a clear message to boys that it is not
an acceptable way to treat women, and an equally clear
message to men who are considering paying for sex that
they face prosecution under the language of the cause. However,

(01:52:27):
quote paying for sex would include scenarios in which one
person pays another to touch themselves or engage in sexual
activity with a third person did he much like Sweden's
recent remote sexual services. This proposed law could therefore be

(01:52:47):
used to prosecute anyone who tips a canned performer for
performing a sexual act alone with or another performer. It
would also apply to anyone who pays for a custom
clip that includes sexual acts.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
So all right, one of the.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Okay, we're gonna ask the porn expert Brian. But one
of the funny things about laws in America is that, like,
you know, in most places, you can't pay for sex,
but you can pay somebody to be an actor in
a porn film. So like I can't pay you to
have sex with me unless there's a camera, then it's fine.

(01:53:24):
So I guess that's kind of what they're going after.
But Brian, again, as our resident expert in the adult industry,
what is the problem here?

Speaker 4 (01:53:37):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Why is Britain? What is going on in Britain?

Speaker 9 (01:53:39):
And Britain goes both ways on this, Brian, is a
family show goddamn it since when anyway, I'm trying to
educate anyway, for whatever reason, Britain has always you know,

(01:54:00):
there are times where they they oppose all this stuff,
meaning they pose.

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
The you know, corn all together.

Speaker 9 (01:54:07):
And then now then then it gets to the point
where it's like okay, well it starts creeping back in
and everyone's all good and happy with it. And there's
a lot of British based sites that have thrived for
in the last i would say, good last twenty years.

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
This sorry sits Wait, do they feature better blow jobs
because they don't have teeth?

Speaker 8 (01:54:32):
Pretty much? Yeah, that porridge.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
They put the blow and bloke, yes, good anyway, But
all all, what what really threw me was the fact that, okay,
you're going to try to prevent people from doing one
sexual act, a consensual sexual act, and then two.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Y apparently non fatal strangulation.

Speaker 9 (01:55:04):
Right and then and also the fact is like, okay,
then you have the camsites. Campsites have thrived for the
last now five years, and in particularly in a lot
of foreign places, so and namely Written is one of them.
It just doesn't make sense for them to say, okay,

(01:55:25):
you want to block all this because you want to
prevent kids. Again, I understand that you want to prevent
them from getting onto these sites, which, if I remember correctly,
a lot of these sites have done an extensive amount
of work to try to prevent all this. So you
want again go that crazy extra mile to try to
prevent all this and denying you know, citizens who want

(01:55:49):
to pay people to watch them have sex by themselves
or whether another partner or what have you, it is
their god given right. But you have this particular PM
has an issue with something that for whatever reason they
don't want to have, you know, get off.

Speaker 8 (01:56:06):
You know, it's it's just to make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
So isn't this like anti economy right?

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
Yes, these people if you think.

Speaker 9 (01:56:15):
About it, yes, because like I said, when in Europe
there's a lot of top notch European adult sites and
adult companies that go all around that country and pretty
much a lot of the adult stars they think it's
like go to Europe.

Speaker 8 (01:56:35):
They they're treated like rock stars.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Is in Europe? Like isn't that the thing?

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
People go to Europe to like go to red light?

Speaker 9 (01:56:45):
Yes, and and and it's but for whatever again for Britain,
it is that old conservative bullshit of where they want
to make sure that everything is copasetic. They want to
you know, this is not you know, this is not proper.
This is not proper at all. You need to you know,
calm down, you know we we don't want to and yes,

(01:57:06):
this is the whispertist accident I've ever been done so.
But the point is is the fact that they are
this particular person who put this bill out there. I
don't know, maybe one day they saw their son or
heard another you know, another parent in their son. It's like, oh,
gone to this site and they freaked out, and it's like, oh,

(01:57:29):
we got to stop porn for everybody. And this is
the degradation of women, even though look that it's that
old eighties standard or saying that a lot of these
women are corrupted and they felt like they had to
get away from their families and you know, they're just
doing it to be bad girls.

Speaker 8 (01:57:46):
And I was like, no, most of these.

Speaker 9 (01:57:48):
Women who are aka either housewives, normal people, we just
want to say, hey, I'm a sexy freak and I
want to show let.

Speaker 8 (01:57:55):
People know about it and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:57):
That's okay, and I want to get paid for it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
It seems strange that they added these two things together.
Apparently one came from a different MP that she was
like really worried about choking and the other was really
worried about the campsites.

Speaker 12 (01:58:13):
But it just.

Speaker 9 (01:58:16):
I I mentioned that one that MP who her husband
tried to do the choking thing, and she like wasn't
feeling it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:23):
So she was like, no, we're gonna put this in
this new bill.

Speaker 7 (01:58:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:58:28):
That I just thing, why do people care so and
and I'm not I'm not like mushing this all together,
but like the same thing about like why everybody cares
so much about whether people are are gay or trans
or like who's peing and what bathroom? It is just

(01:58:48):
like this insane obsession.

Speaker 8 (01:58:53):
It's an ups It is a political obsession.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
With what people have in their pants, like I and
that is it's not just there.

Speaker 9 (01:59:02):
In the pants in their bedrooms. And for whatever reason,
it's like, look, sex is a natural thing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:10):
Yeah, how do they think they get more Britons? Yes,
I don't want any immigrants.

Speaker 8 (01:59:14):
Yes, and things of that nature.

Speaker 9 (01:59:16):
But for whatever reason, they don't want to properly educate
anybody with it, and they feel like anything that's gone
to the kinkier side. They feel like it's like, oh,
this is not you know, we don't want to tell
people that, and but still people seek it out.

Speaker 8 (01:59:31):
I mean it's ridiculous.

Speaker 9 (01:59:32):
It's like they are so afraid of, you know, of
going into a sex shop, even though it's right around
the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
They can't just go.

Speaker 9 (01:59:42):
At it's your jo Yes, it's you're right, it's your
you know, if you feel like you it's it's not
you know, for your beliefs and all that stuff. Fine,
But then again, at the same time, you can why
keep denying other people who want to go there?

Speaker 1 (01:59:56):
Like I didn't tell you for a fact that I
think that Fox News is have seen and should.

Speaker 16 (02:00:01):
Not be viewed by children. And so what I do
is I don't let my children view it. And you're
not asking for it to be taken off the here
I'm not. I'm not asking for it to be taking
off the air. I just don't let my kids watch it.
And that seems fair reasonable.

Speaker 9 (02:00:19):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot
of sights, and there's a lot of video clips I've
never seen. I do not tend to see. That is
my right and that's my choice. And I'm not going
to deny somebody else to not see it. And I
just feel like, you know, for politicians, you know, knowing
full well is like like either a you claim to

(02:00:41):
be watching this stuff for research purposes, knowing full well
you're probably jerking off onto it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:46):
Come on cruise like a bunch of of porn stuff
on Twitter.

Speaker 8 (02:00:50):
Yeah, you know that it's that Mexican stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
That's right, he's coming to Cancun.

Speaker 3 (02:00:59):
All right, all right, all right, first of all, we
gotta help train this fucking chat g T better because
these jokes are terrible that you are you following I'm saying,
but we got to give it more on this. All right,
we'll start with this one here to figure this one.
I heard, but what what is the British Preferred Sexual Act.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
Colonization?

Speaker 12 (02:01:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
Uh, what is the British Preferred Sexual Act?

Speaker 7 (02:01:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
Like what are they like to? They like? No tea bagging?
No more king. I was bruin on that one for
a minute. It was a steep joke.

Speaker 1 (02:01:52):
No stop this that's a whole different kettle of fish.

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
Better be electric. No okay, anyway, what.

Speaker 1 (02:02:12):
Okay, we're gonna you know what, now, we're not doing that.
Let's move on. Okay, speaking of weird sex things. Uh,
there's this guy speaker of the house. His name's Mike Johnson,
of all things, and he's sort of weird on the

(02:02:34):
sex thing. Right, Remember the porn. Remember that he had
an adopted black son. But now that guy doesn't seem
to exist anymore, like we never hear about him. Yeah,
they returned him, I guess. Remember that. Also, Mike Johnson

(02:02:54):
and his seventeen year old black adopted son were each
other's poorn ne pountabill of buddies, disgusting. They had apps
on their phones. This is he told everybody the Covenant
Eyes that watches to make sure the other one isn't
accessing porn, and it reports them if they do so,

(02:03:17):
Like you want your adopt again, not actually adopted maybe
minor son porn usage. That's not exactly information that I
think I'd want on my cell phone. But okay, so
that's who Mike Johnson is, right, But it turns out
maybe there's another side to Mike Johnson. There's a podcast

(02:03:42):
which is called the uh I think I've had it
with this I've had it podcast. It's a video podcast
I watched a little bit of it. I watched this
particular episode they were looking at a TikTok clips and
now we're several layers of like on accoun douniable bullshit,
possibly speculation deep here, but they were looking at a

(02:04:04):
TikTok where somebody who was on Grinder was purporting to
have a conversation with Maga Mike Johnson.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
And the way that the.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Conversation goes, they show you the text bubbles going back
and forth between the Grinder person and this other person
who we don't know, and basically the person on Grinder
propositions the other one, Hey, you know, I like your
long hair. It looks great. I'd like to pull on

(02:04:39):
it or whatever. And the guy with the long hair
is like, you know, that sounds pretty good, but i'd
like to see what you look like, you know, And
the person was like, look, I got to be very discreet.
I've got a wife and three kids. I'm not trying
to wreck that whole thing. And uh, guys, like, I understand,
and then and it flashes a selfie of Mike Johnson.

(02:05:05):
It is in the Capitol with his house pin on
his lapel. So I don't know if they just like
got that selfie and like dropped it in there or whatever.
But you know, stranger things have happened. We know that
when seapacks in town grinders servers get overloaded and it crashes.

(02:05:25):
We know that the RNC often leads to overloads on grinder.
So I'm not saying that for sure Mike Johnson's on grinder.
I'm just not saying I can't prove he's not on grind.

Speaker 3 (02:05:37):
I found the quote in here by Jennifer Welch to
be the one for me that I've always thought a
lot of the time is that, yes, the quote here,
like now, I want to say, I don't know if
this is true or not, but I do want to
say that I think that men allege straight men that
talk about gay people all the time. I personally believe
that there's a very Freudian and I believe that it's

(02:05:58):
very Freudian, and I personally believe that they.

Speaker 2 (02:06:01):
Are probably gay or by curious Welsh reasons.

Speaker 3 (02:06:04):
And then the other quote is and so it's important
for us to dig into the psychology of Mike Johnson
and his wife Kelly.

Speaker 2 (02:06:10):
I find that I.

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
Believe that for a long time, right I especially everybody
who's like so anti gay. I wonder if it's them. Again,
I'm not trying to go psycho analyze anybody here, but like,
are they trying to go so hard?

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
No pun intended, because maybe deep down inside, you know,
maybe maybe that's what you're doing, which is cool if
that's what you're into.

Speaker 3 (02:06:38):
I just don't like to claim that you're so that
you're so straight at this, But then you're always talking
about gay folks.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
Is very he don't protest too much essentially, right, Yeah,
it does seem strange. I mean, look, okay, there's like
fair things to be you know that, Like how much
I talk about hating Ohio, right, Like okay, but that's
like that's a legitimate part of my Michigan identity. Yeah,

(02:07:10):
that's And if people are like, hey, well you talk
about Ohio so much, maybe you secretly love them. That
does not make sense and that is not the same
thing that what we're talking about. But like, yeah, I
I I agree. I think that anybody is this obsessed
with with banning something in particular is maybe they're banning

(02:07:30):
it because they don't want access to it, because they
want it. You know, you're banning porn. Maybe you got
a porn problem. You're banning uh you know LGBT stuff.
Maybe you're just not okay with your own sexuality. Like
it just it all kind of comes back to this
thing of like stop caring so much about what other
people have in their parents that.

Speaker 2 (02:07:52):
Aren't hurting, Like, no one's hurting anybody.

Speaker 1 (02:07:55):
Yeah, like did he harming people?

Speaker 7 (02:07:58):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (02:07:58):
The problem.

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
Yeah, let's care about what he's doing with his pants.
That's a problem because it's harmful. People watching porn harmless,
it's not hurting anybody. Everybody involved is aware, right, this
is they're all consenting adults here, like leave it alone, right,

(02:08:20):
and and and people loving each other getting married who
happen to be the same gender or same sex. Again,
they're not marrying. You don't hurt anybody. Also, this like
opt out thing, like the uh you know, the Supreme
Court said they county kids could parents could opt their
kids out of this stuff. I can't wait to see,
like what extension somebody like me to take that to.

(02:08:41):
I want to opt my kids out of learning about
the glorious enslavers and all of the glorious things that
they did.

Speaker 7 (02:08:48):
Can I do that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
Can I opt them out? I don't want them to
learn that. I want you to pull them out of
class every five minutes. Can I opt them out of
learning that the state of Ohio exists?

Speaker 7 (02:08:57):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Can I do those things? Because this is stupid and ridiculous.
We need somebody to do something even more stupid and
ridiculous now that the Supreme Court has opened that door.
So we're taking volunteers. You want to help me do it.
If you're a lawyer listening to the show and you
want to help me create a lot of trouble, call
me you trouble.

Speaker 12 (02:09:17):
What what?

Speaker 2 (02:09:19):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:09:20):
Let's continue on with Jolly Old England. So over in
Britain there's this, uh, this band called Bob Villain clever name.
They were at Glastonbury and they were leading a chant
about Palestine and death death to the IDF. They chanted
and so then uh us provoked all their visas and

(02:09:42):
Britain opened up like a hate crime investigation into.

Speaker 2 (02:09:47):
That, and Skept has stepped in for them for the
next time. I think that they were going to be
on the stage.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
Yeah, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:09:57):
Yeah? Because like.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
Especially it's clear that I mean, free free speech is
dead at this point, right, Yes, I mean you could
but I mean, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:10:10):
You can say it, but there is a highly.

Speaker 3 (02:10:13):
Likelihood of like them people showing up at your house
or in this case, you're like having visas revoked.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
But I mean, right, I mean it's clear that the
administration is disingenuous in the sense.

Speaker 3 (02:10:28):
Of like their like support for Jewish people and how
they're going on, Like it's clear as day, Like obviously
you've spoken to that many times. Yeah, And I mean,
like musicians, that's this is it ain't just the whole thing.
That's what they do, Like they say shit like this, right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
The artists, they're allowed to provoke. That's the whole point
of it. Also, if you don't like it, again, I
want to be very clear, you have the option to
simply turn it off. You don't have to watch it.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
And after I've seen that, have you seen that video
played earlier? Like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (02:10:58):
Like, I mean, shit, Like, I mean, I get I
understand why people might be like, hey, yo, I you know,
death to the fucking IDF because they're killing all little kids,
Like I understand why someone might say that that's.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
Not yes, And also we be very clear once again,
goiam non Jews do not get to tell us what
is anti Semitism. You don't get to do that. It's
not your choice. We the members of the tribe, get
to decide what is and what is not. Being against

(02:11:33):
the IDF, being against the Israeli government, being against Benjaminettyau.
These are specific things. They are not about a group
of people. They are not anti Semitic saying things like
you know, the Jews will not replace us and marching
around saying that, you know, death to the Jews, like
I don't know those guys in Charlottesville who they called

(02:11:54):
very fine people. That is anti semitism because that is
directed at a group. It is not direct at a
specific entity, political, or person. These things are pretty odd,
Like the Trump administration is suing Harvard for being anti Semitic.
The president of Harvard is Jewish. You can't tell him

(02:12:17):
what is anti semitism.

Speaker 2 (02:12:20):
Like this show is on a.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
Black radio station.

Speaker 4 (02:12:27):
I am not black.

Speaker 1 (02:12:28):
I'm the only not black person associated with all a
Beltleigh Radio and beyond.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
I think.

Speaker 1 (02:12:37):
I don't know if this is overstepping, but I would
say that I'm usually labeled as like down, I'm I'm
I'm quote one of the good ones, right, Like I'm
part of the cause, and never in my life would
I be the one to tell Tez or Brian or
any of the other find people on this network, what

(02:13:00):
is racism towards black folks. I can't do that. Even
if I'm probably right, I still don't get to be
the one, right. It's it's why that's hard for them
to get. Why do they want to be It's icky.

Speaker 2 (02:13:15):
It's theater though, right, I mean it's it's back to that.

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
It's like, all right, hey, hey, it is it's almost
sick the way they're using anti Semitism and Jewish people as.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
Like this pawn almost Now that's the only way I
see it.

Speaker 3 (02:13:35):
But it's clear, and there's always been this like, right,
everybody's always been like which I've never felt this way,
but a lot of folks have always been afraid to
even criticize anything that's happened in the past with Israel
because they've been fear of being labeled anti Semitic.

Speaker 2 (02:13:52):
Now to me, my thing is, well, don't be anti Semitic.

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
But I can have the conversation you've had them for
years again, be like, hey, this is my beef with
the State of Israel, all right, and with the IDF
and with the occupations.

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
This is my beef with that, but it's never been
like the beef with Jewish people. No, that's completely different.

Speaker 1 (02:14:14):
Well, and you can't let organizations that have for a
long time conflated these two things use that as a
as a cudgel or a weapon. If somebody tells you
if let's say, let's say you're you're not Jewish person,
and you say something like the IDF is engaged in

(02:14:34):
a genocide in Gaza, Okay, And you say that and
somebody goes, hey, that's anti semitic. First of all, if
they're not Jewish, tell them to shut the fuck up.
Second of all, if they are and they say that's
anti Semitism, you are well within your right to say,
I am not saying anything about Jewish people. I am

(02:14:55):
being critical of a sovereign nation state and their military
in what they're doing to another group of people.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
I think the better response in that, and I've done that.
I was like, Okay, I understand your point, prove your work,
show tell me how I am being that, because it's
always interesting when you ask that question on how it
tries to get actually like, because then I.

Speaker 2 (02:15:20):
Then the rebuttal will be what you just said. It's like, well, no,
I'm not, and you could use other examples, right exactly.
It's a lot of other examples. I could be like, hey,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (02:15:31):
If you took South African apartheid, right, that could be
another example to be like, oh, no, I'm against the
South African government. And I could even be like, oh,
maybe there's not every Afrikana that supports this, but the
ones who do support this, I find this to not
be it.

Speaker 2 (02:15:49):
It's not kosher for lack of a better way.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
Yeah exactly, But I mean anything like that, right. I
don't like that the Chinese government is occupy hind Tibet.
That's not okay, But that is not a slander against
Chinese people. No, that's a policy by a government, right,
So don't accept that conflated label of anti Semitism when

(02:16:14):
you're when you're being critical of a government policy.

Speaker 2 (02:16:17):
And so.

Speaker 1 (02:16:19):
When it comes to that like this is somebody's got
to decouple this, and I feel like it's gonna have
to be us. We're gonna have one to step up
and explain because we were the ones that smashed this
together in the first place. We have to unsmash this
together and stop hiding behind this because we we as
Jewish people that we've been we've been hiding behind this

(02:16:40):
weird affinity that the white Christian nationalists have for us,
as as as tokens essentially, and we've used it to
our advantage. That was never acceptable. We should not have
done that, and and we're not going to do that anymore.
So like we gotta we gotta undo it. That's that's
our problem to fix. But like Jesus Christ, guys, fuck off,
leave us alone.

Speaker 3 (02:16:59):
God damn it, because when they when they're involved this much,
you gotta be careful because you know what the end is.

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
You know what the end game is. In the middle
of the.

Speaker 1 (02:17:07):
Conversation, it doesn't end with and then the Jews lived happily.
Ever after, we don't have any of those holidays. All
of our holidays, all of them start off with something
really bad happened to us, and then a few of
them end with and then we were okay, let's eat.
But usually there's the very bad thing first. Okay, we

(02:17:33):
can skip this thing about the economy, because what we
were going to talk about is the ADP said that
we the economy lost jobs. BLS report came out today
said that we gained one hundred and forty nine thousand jobs.
I think that means that the Trump people are lying
and cooking the books. But that makes me sound like
them when when Biden was some charms.

Speaker 3 (02:17:51):
Kay, yeah, I saw you pull, I saw the post
that I did feel the type of way about it,
and eventually it might get there.

Speaker 1 (02:17:58):
I'm not saying, yeah, not out there yet, but we
do know.

Speaker 2 (02:18:02):
I think the economy is still strong. I still think
it is still.

Speaker 1 (02:18:05):
It's still that same strong economy that we had under Biden.

Speaker 2 (02:18:09):
How long will this go?

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
How long can it withstand the buffeting that is occurring.
That's an open question. And I think it's also fair
to say that if you parse these numbers of where
the hiring was in that one hundred and forty nine thousand,
it's a lot of state and local government growing.

Speaker 3 (02:18:29):
Because they're probably taking in people that maybe are leaving
the federal That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:18:32):
They're taking in people who are leaving federal posts and
shoring up, you know, where they had gaps previously. So
we may not really see that. It might just be
a lot of churn. I don't really know we'll find out.
Here's the last story that I really wanted to talk about.
I'm glad that we have enough time because you know,
of course we do. So what do you know about

(02:18:55):
sickle selling Eemia.

Speaker 2 (02:18:57):
I know it is a I feel like I have
this right. I feel like it's a sickness of disease
that affects Black folk a little bit more than most.

Speaker 3 (02:19:11):
And then I also know of famous hip hop MC
Prodigy from the group Mob Deep had this.

Speaker 2 (02:19:20):
But I I know it is. It's very.

Speaker 8 (02:19:24):
Ta bas from bos.

Speaker 2 (02:19:26):
Also, yes, I know it's very painful as well too.
That is what I know.

Speaker 1 (02:19:30):
Yeah, yeah, So sickle cell is a hereditary disease. It's
it's passed on genetically.

Speaker 15 (02:19:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:19:38):
It exists in exactly two populations in the world, which
is Black African Sub Saharan African and South Asian specifically
like in the area around Bangladesh, And these are the
two places where malaria exists and the sickle cell trait

(02:19:58):
does work as a protection against the malaria parasite. So
these two things sort of co evolved and in their place. Now,
if you're not fighting off malaria, having sickle cell is
very painful and can be deadly and it's really detrimental,
wrecks your whole life. There are people who have the
sickle cell trait but don't have the actual disease, but

(02:20:21):
they can still pass it down.

Speaker 7 (02:20:23):
And so.

Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
The important thing is that it's it's specific to a
certain group of people. It's not communicable. It's not a
thing you can catch, it's not a thing that's yeah.
It's not like the gay, it's not like a cold
where you can pass it along. And it also doesn't
exist in other places. So when you go to study
sickle cell or try to help people with sickle cell,

(02:20:47):
you are helping black folks or South Asian folks, which
is not because the doctors are only interested in helping
those people. It's just those are the only people who
have this. So the NIH has been supporting research into
these things for years, and there has been tremendous advances

(02:21:09):
in treatment for people with sickle cell anemia, and the
overall you know, prognosis for people who have this this
characteristic or this trait has substantially improved over our lifetimes
from totally debilitating to now more or less manageable because

(02:21:29):
of this funding. But because this affects only black folks.
The Trump administration is cutting all the fund into it.
So a doctor says that she's scrambling to figure out
how she'll continue her work helping sickle cell disease patients
after the NIH canceled her research, citing DEI and divisiveness
as a factor. No, it's not DEI and it's not divisiveness.

(02:21:53):
It's just that'd be saying, like, oh, well, studying TASAX
is divisive because it only affects Jewish people. No, it's
just a thing that's genetically inherited within my branch of
Jewish groups of people because we were, you know, genetically
isolated by various anti semit Semitic states for however long.

(02:22:16):
But like okay, or like red hair or something like that,
it's not racist and it's not specific. It's not like
they were like, well, we were gonna do some sickle
cell work, but we're only gonna help the black folks
and we're not gonna help any of those white people
with sickle cell anemia. It's like, okay, no problem, it's

(02:22:38):
no white people with sickle cell. It's not an issue.
It's not a thing. It's not but it's not divisive
to study it to help the people canceling it. That's device.
That's racist. So yeah, it's straight racist. There's no other
word for this. This is racist. The people who are
affected by it are black.

Speaker 2 (02:22:59):
They are not I.

Speaker 1 (02:23:00):
The white people canceled the help for the black people,
that's racist. I want to know, Like, I want to
get somebody at n I H or HHS to be like,
explain to me out loud in front of some other people,
why this thing bothers you? Why does it bother you
that doctors are treating this disease.

Speaker 2 (02:23:21):
It's clear you already say it.

Speaker 1 (02:23:24):
If I want to make them say it, it's clear
as day say the thing out loud. That's what I
want them to do.

Speaker 2 (02:23:31):
Not gunna.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
But you know, in case you were doubting what this
administration is about, they're like, hey, this thing helps black folks.
You know what we should do?

Speaker 2 (02:23:44):
Cut it.

Speaker 1 (02:23:47):
All right? You want to you have one more chatchpt
written uh chip and test joke?

Speaker 2 (02:23:53):
Do I have?

Speaker 6 (02:23:54):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:23:55):
I don't know no. Sorry, that was a doubt. That's
down or there. This is the blatant light. Why not
I'm a school reason like this?

Speaker 1 (02:24:13):
He's like, clearly, yeah, there's no there's no other way
to put it. All right, you hear the music, which
means we come to the end of the show. We
want to say thank you to Malcolm for being so
cool telling us the truth. Go check out his stuff.

(02:24:33):
Go to TP newsroom or google The Truth Project.

Speaker 2 (02:24:38):
It'll come up.

Speaker 1 (02:24:40):
Thanks to our radio partner Susan Collins, Tom Tillis and
Ran Paul's neighbor. Thanks to nt Ed for keeping us
on for another week.

Speaker 2 (02:24:48):
Maybe don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:24:49):
Check out the new video from Kway Baltimore. He's got
a new new song out, new videos on YouTube, some
pretty good stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:24:57):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (02:24:58):
If you want to learn about the economy before it's gone,
go check out the folks at Green Collar Pod. They've
got some pretty good stuff. They were talking to a
guy named Bob O'Keefe from an organization called E two
who works to use the economy as a way to
encourage folks to do the right thing about like investing

(02:25:19):
in renewable energy for example.

Speaker 2 (02:25:21):
And I don't know if I was saying on this show,
but like Texas is the state that has some.

Speaker 3 (02:25:26):
Of the most renewable energy, and literally it was about
positioning it in a different way and they used religion
in God and they were like, well, yeah, God put
the oil under the dirt for us to extract. You
also put this wind down here for us to use,
so let's go use the fucking wind.

Speaker 1 (02:25:41):
And I was like the wind is cheaper and they
were all like, yo, we're in that.

Speaker 3 (02:25:45):
I'm telling you all that because it goes back to
this persuasion and how do you persuade people?

Speaker 2 (02:25:49):
How do you like? There's a way, there's a way
to persuade people.

Speaker 1 (02:25:52):
So when humanity fails, try to convince them with money.
All right, But anyway, go check out Green Collar Pod there.
They've got a bunch of cool stuff and hopefully we'll
try to get them on our show at some point.
Been really digging that. Thanks to our home on the
interwebs Coplaymedia dot Com, and thanks as always to our
family here at Beltleigh Radio for making a sound as
smooth as that house vote this week? All right, where

(02:26:15):
can everybody get you on the socials?

Speaker 2 (02:26:17):
There? Tes you find me on Blue Sky at all right.

Speaker 1 (02:26:21):
You can find me and the show on the Twitter
at chipchat r R, and you can find us on
Facebook or Instagram at rip chipchat, and you can find
me on Blue Sky at Chef Chip with my cool
old handle being a flaming liberal or whatever it is
that we say over there skating. I hate that it's tweeting.

Speaker 2 (02:26:39):
Why it's the my issue that I mentioned the other day.

Speaker 3 (02:26:42):
Malcolm kind of touched on that around the polarization, and
I find that on Blue Sky, even though I agree
with a lot of it, I find, yeah, that's been
my is also.

Speaker 1 (02:26:55):
The liberal purity tests on there.

Speaker 3 (02:26:58):
I men common should that's it because it took me right,
But that is where I've been a little frustrated with it.
But I just talked baseball on that. That's all tell
you what to talk about exactly. Crazy catch by Jacob
Young last night.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
I saw that line.

Speaker 3 (02:27:12):
Yeah, he jumped off saying I saw that live last
night and literally almost like as you.

Speaker 1 (02:27:17):
Know, what they should add to the to the All
Star is like him and Denzel and a couple of
the other like said he could be in this of
like crazy outfield catches, like set up a wall and
get a pitching machine to just like chuck balls over
the wall and see who can come up with like
the coolest trick catch.

Speaker 3 (02:27:32):
He like the dumb contest, but for for outfielders. I
wanted the ship out of that. And James Wood is
also in the home run Derby and he's the next
Barry Bonds.

Speaker 2 (02:27:40):
I'm saying it.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
Here, hopefully in the good way, one of the performance
enhancing drudge.

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
Way as fine. Yeah, we can say that as well too.

Speaker 3 (02:27:50):
I'm talking about when it comes to swinging a baseball bat,
stealing bases, early Barry Bonds pirates.

Speaker 1 (02:27:56):
Okay, alright, alright, so Berry Bonds, Yes, that's fair. Okay,
well we take that and happy Bobby Benia day to
Oils and the Mets. We've still got to deal with
that till twenty twenty eight. The Mets have m until
twenty thirty five. But anyway, that was a couple of
days ago. All Right, that's the show. Thank you for listening,
and catch us every Thursday night here on Beltway Radio

(02:28:17):
and beyond at nine thirty O. Chip, that's Test, that's Brian.
You've been listening to check Chat on Beltwey Radio and
beyond sweeps.

Speaker 6 (02:28:27):
No, we made till jokes we may dreams of comes.
Thank you for listening all these years. Shit shatladio hot,
how enjoy hold the foming

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