Charlie Kirk faces his own 9/11

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Speaker 1 (00:43):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night and you're
tuned in the Betwegh radio and beyond, which can mean
one an only thing. If this is Chipchat. Welcome to
chip Chat. Everybody on chip Who.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Are you tez?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
You just told him buddy wow yeah uh the.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
New test quote of the week. Don't tempt the news cycle.
Don't don't tempt it. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, you do a lot of planning for this show.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
You're the only one who works around here, right And
again another week where you just you know, in a
nice neat box for us to work. And I was
happy because I was like, you know what, very clear,
concise like show. You know, we can snock that out.
We get out here kind of early and you know,
relatively early. And as you sent what you sent, I

(01:30):
did send to you immediately I.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Was like, ah.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I was like, I don't know, don't tempt this news cycle.
This news cycle always has something up at sleep and
we thought it was just them invading the Russian drones.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Invading the Polish airspace.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
That was the first thing that I was like, oh no,
And then I was like, well, we know what we're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
And then he's like, it's only Wednesday, and I was like, yeah,
so I'm gonna not talk to test during the week. Yeah,
because it's apparently like a curse. Yeah, obviously, yeah don't.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
It doesn't doesn't help for the preparation of the show,
because maybe the best preparation is not to prepare to just.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Attack on attack the topics.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
We can't I both do that, that's not we can.
Only one person could do that. Yeah, yeah, you're you're,
you have so much natural talent you can just exactly
every time, wing it every time. All right, So welcome
to a special edition of Chipchat aka Resistance Radio. Today
is of course nine to eleven. So ye, we want

(02:42):
to we do want to take a moment to uh,
to think about the victims of that horrible attack on
our country. It was twenty four years ago, an attack
that defines an era in that there was a time
before and then there's a time after. Like yeah, there's
no Yeah, it's one of those events, you know, one

(03:03):
of those and it shaped everyone our age, you know,
our lives in ways that we probably really haven't begun
to understand. And God bless the therapists who are all
going to be there with us, you know, to help
sort this out.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Ah, it was almost the start of the like a
wave of trauma for a certain generation. I mean, you
could weave in like the two thousand election, because that's
kind of like whoa what, but you.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Know, yeah, that kind of goes right along with it.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, you could weave in it.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
And maybe you know, you thought of doing Eli and
Gonzales before that, but but no, But nine to eleven specifically,
it's like, Okay, you have that obviously war in Afghanistan,
and that goes into obviously Iraq, and then I think
even from that, even locally here you get anthrax and

(03:57):
then you get.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
The cite not just that we have we have Patriot
Act and THESA and all of this other stuff, the
massive expansion of governments.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
The reorganization of the federal government, speaking of locally. The
way that that that deeply impacted us it nine to
eleven is is is that there is a time before,
like my life is divided up into like the time
before my bar mitzvah, this fuzzy time between my bar
mitzvah and nine to eleven, where like I was a
teenager and then nine to eleven happens as I'm you know,

(04:34):
graduating high school, entering adulthood, and like all of a sudden,
all my friends are shipped off overseas to war, and
like it is a bad time, it's a tense time.
It doesn't we never really, I never really addressed it

(04:54):
or processed this at all. It almost it's like I
immediately stored it as a textbook article and never I'm
still just live like you didn't live it, almost, yeah,
like it never happened to me, like it was just
a historical event. I have never sat down and thought

(05:15):
about how nine to eleven felt to me at all.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
I've never done that.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Interesting. I just marched right through it and just carried on.
I haven't I haven't done. My wife, you know, is
from New York. She talks about seeing you know, she
was at school, she was in college on Staten Island,
and she talks about seeing the smoke from the trade centers.

(05:43):
You know, I could see the smoke from from the
Pentagon and beyond, sort of like me occasionally reminding her
that this happened to us here in Washington too, because
so much of the way nine to eleven is talked
about is about New York and not about Washington. But

(06:05):
Apart from that, I don't know that she and I
have ever really talked about this in a deep way,
and that's probably something I ought to do.

Speaker 4 (06:13):
But yeah, because I have the exact opposite, Like I've
almost talked about nine to eleven and nauseum to the
point where it's like, like it doesn't it always have
the sting, but it's almost like being you know, the
further you get away from these things start to become
more of the textbook piece that you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
But like, yeah, no, I'm I.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Just immediately skipped to that. I think I honestly, if
you ask me now, like what I thought, you know,
how nine to eleven felt. My mind immediately jumps to
the Patriot Act and it and it jumps to the
the the reaction to nine to eleven, not the actual
act of it. I never processed that. I definitely need to.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
I'll never be able because you talk about it jumps
to I'll never be able to ever a race from
my mind, the people jumping out the window that day
or choosing that option, and for me, and yeah, I'm
what is it? Yeah, I'm in if you're graduating as
I am in, I'm eighth grade because I'm not in
high school yet yet, and I remember like go home,

(07:18):
beautiful day, like exactly, just like I can. I can
see that day. I can remember like walking through the
school home, like why everybody inside the library watching TV
right now? And like before I can envision. I can
see the or here, the principal going over, like the
PA system, all of that I can.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I can. All of that stuff is like bookmarked, and it's.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Like I can remember all of that stuff happening very vividly.
I can remember I was at that time. I slept
with the radio on with wt OP on because that's
where the ball games used to be, and I would
fall asleep, you know, listen to Orioles games. And I
had just come back from my exile and Connecticut, and

(08:01):
I was I was living, I was sleeping at my
parents' house. I hadn't started living in student housing yet
with school, and yeah, and I woke up to the
radio telling me that that this stuff was happening and confused,
and you know, my dad was downtown at work and.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
My mom worked in Pentagon City at the time. YEA,
for me, I was just like, oh God, like all right,
what hold on? Where did it strike?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
But it never I never I never talked with my
parents about this.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
I never never had like wow, yeah I think, No,
yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I did.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I did. I talked to my parents about it.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's good of you.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Well, the thing is I talked to them as after
like after the towers came down, I had to talk
because my parents were both overseas at the time, so
it was kind of really during that day, it was
kind of extremely difficult to try to get a call
out because everybody was uone, you know, doing something, you know,

(09:15):
trying to contact every loved one around the globe. And
once I was able to get through at least to
my mom to make sure she was okay and stuff
like that and and all that stuff. So and then
I was able to get my dad a couple of
hours later. So it's that timeframe was, as everyone knows,
was chaotic. But I felt like as even the aftermath

(09:40):
of everything, you know, you know, Mountain hour and twenty
four years later, I still think about certain things that
happened and doing around that time because it felt like, yeah,
things kind of change, especially in America for and sadly
right now, I would say for the worst.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
You know, I don't. I don't know if this is
made be a strength or or a trauma response. But
you know now that you guys are mentioning this, I'm
kind of thinking about this that I basically switched off
feeling uh major things like I feel things for me

(10:18):
that are individual, but I I stopped feeling like the
big things big and yeah. From that point on and
and and I became a process operator. And I am
now still that, and I'm maybe I've been that the
entire time.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Then you're saying that you don't like national events, you
don't feel some of these, and I don't think that's.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
True that I feel them. I feel them, but I
feel them cognitively. I don't feel them viscerally. I don't
I feel them because I know what the thing to
do is. But I'm operating a solution all the time.
I think I might be still stuck. I might be
doing that since then. I don't know that I ever
stopped doing that, Like, Okay, this thing happened, what do

(11:05):
we do next. It's like you know, when you're at
work and like something major happens and you I don't
know if you can do this, but I do this.
I think most most people who do, like, you know,
some sort of facilities are like critical infrastructure. It kind
of thing. They're like, don't care, how what's the problem.
How do we fix it? Like you stop caring about

(11:27):
people and their feelings and all of that stuff and
you just work the problem.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
I that is, that is not necessarily my first go
to for the fact that I worked in retail for
a long time and the idea of you having to
assuage the customer at the point into like, yeah, that
piece I think is critical because yeah, whatever is happening right,

(11:51):
Like let's just say it's a computer, Like it's impacting
them from getting something done, and there is a feeling
of frustration not at you and say, but at like
the technology and yeah, maybe yeah, you know what this is.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
It's going empathy.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, well it's not what I don't have that I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
I learned from a recently deceased individual that that's a
useless thing to have.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
But I don't Jesus Christ, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
You know where this show is going, don't right, I
don't know that. I like, it's not that I'm not
empathic or sympathetic to like the person who is impacted
by the thing.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
But I am so always go straight to the.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I just want to fix the problem, and I might
without really thinking about it. Maybe I've been just in
a heightened state of like what you know how, like
like in Apollo thirteen where they're like, work the problem,
people like it's that. That's how I think about everything
all the time. Everything I do, even like folding laundry,

(12:54):
is like, all right, what's the problem. How do we
solve it? Like there's no Yeah, we might have we
might have hit something, you know what. Let's let's make
sure that that I can play this back for my therapistness.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Right exactly, just we might have hit something of the show.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
All right, I'm talking to the whole internet right now.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
You know, it's just me and you, Me and Brian.
It's just us. I mean that's kind of how this
show works, isn't it. Yeah, all right, let's let's go
on to the rest of it. So this has been
an incredible news week. Obviously, we we intended to stick
to a few larger topics that would have some smaller
details kind of inside of them, but Tes cursed us
with his deft predictions of the news cycle.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
So, uh, my magic wand and I'm like, more news,
more news.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, we were confronted with another huge story, which is
a developing story. We want to like really heavily emphasize
that there's a lot of stuff that's unknown. We're not
going to talk about or make any speculative statements about
any of that. We might talk about kind of like
what we're seeing in the speculation because of where that
that itself is a problem. The speculation is a problem.

(14:05):
But in case you've been living under a rock, uh,
you probably know by now that that Charlie Kirk has
been shot and killed. He's, of course the co founder
of Turning Point us A. He is known for his
utterly repugnant, racist, misogynistic uh and violent I don't want

(14:28):
to call it ideology, maybe belief structure, whatever it is.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
He is violence incarnate, except he's not incarnate anymore because
he got shot and he's dead. So on the same
day that a school shooting took took the lives of
several children, there were a bunch of people who were injured.
But you know, Charlie Kirk of course got a lot
of news coverage.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
It's it's I didn't hear about the school.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
You didn't hear about the school shooting. I didn't hear
that about that. That's right, of course you didn't, So
we would be covering that here too. Of course we
do need to talk about it. Hopefully we're going to
add some context. We also want to cover all the
other We would want to cover all the other shootings
that happen on the same day, but it's only a
three hour show and we simply don't have the time
for that. So and you know, this is what the

(15:16):
gun lobby calls freedom, is that a story about a
high profile individual gets getting shot is broken into for
now we're moving on to another coverage of yet another
shooting happening in the same place or in you know,
in the same time zone or whatever. So you know,
freedom hooray. We wrote the show Wednesday night before any

(15:43):
more details really have come out. There have been a
few more details since, so we will add those to
what we're talking about. But you know, that's that's like
the big flashing red light in what we're going to
talk about. We're also we were planning we're gonna do
headlines because those are kind of funny, and we did
write some of those, but then we'll be right back
to the misery. So we want to discuss Gaza, which

(16:05):
that somehow got worse. If you could have guessed that
there was a way to make that fucking thing worse,
don't worry Benjamin Netta, who found that thing so away.
And then you know, in case you're feeling happy for
some reason, then we're going to talk about the widening

(16:26):
conflict in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
So back every time, every time you think you can
rise above the misery, we will bring you back down here.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
That's right. Our job is to ruin your week by
telling you just the stuff that happened.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
We didn't need.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
This is nominally a comedy show, by the way, really funny.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
We haven't laughed in four years.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
That's not true.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
Laugh. There's never there's never a time. I'm trying think
the last slow, slow period of the last three years.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Maybe I don't know, Yeah, I don't think that. We
might have had a week or two.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Maybe a week or two, yeah, and like nah, almost
the end of the Biden administration. Maybe there was a
couple of weeks, not like at the end, but like
in the last year. Maybe there was something. No, I
don't think, right, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
We'll send Brian back into the archives. We're due for
a clip show sometime pretty soon anyway, so maybe you'll
find one of those. So it's not gonna be a
fun show. I don't know how. Like we're gonna make jokes.
They're not gonna be nice, they're gonna be uh, they're
gonna be nihilistic. Maybe they're gonna be us processing the

(17:42):
sheer agony of existing on this plane with the rest
of these things that are happening. But like that's how
we're gonna handle it. I don't know a better way
to handle it.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
To be honest, you laugh to keep from crying, but
you might not laugh because this might not be funny.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Right If Jilbert Godfrey famously said if tragedy plus time
equals comedy, why wait? And you know sometimes he's it
was right, you know while he was yelling. He didn't
say that quietly. Of course, he was screaming it when
he said it, because he's Gover Godfrey. But yeah, so

(18:18):
do you have you have a word. Oh, we also
just want to say we're live on RIP Radio Network
back at home, so we're gonna we're live on there
right now. If you're watching on RIP Radio network. We
are there.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Someone who's someone who's been watching since we've been off
is like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, well, our old fans are who are just like
tuned in and they're like, hey, these guys are back,
and they're gonna be like Larry looks a little different.
You know.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
They've aged a bit. Yeah, using someone they haven't aged
a bit. They've aged a bit.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
When did we lastly ripped radio? Well, I guess we
were ripped radio. You've been here while we're rip, but.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
I've missed it. I've missed enough RiPP.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, right that I've hosted and or presented put together? Sure?

Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, I mean do I have a word? Of course
I have a word. Okay, Yeah, of course I.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Have a word. Uh yeah, I've got I've yeah, I
got a word. All right, Okay, So sit back, grab
some guns. It's Hamilton time.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
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Speaker 1 (20:30):
All right, welcome back to Jip Chet here on Belwey
Radio and Beyond. I'm you know Chip with me is
tz all right, Now it's time for some headlines. This
is the intentionally funny part of the show where we
read you headlines from this week's news.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Do you want to go first? Sure, I'll take the
first one. I always ask you that you always say yes.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I don't know why I don't.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Always say yes.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Sometimes I let you go. It depends on I'm trying
to like the things I want. Okay, there's a funeral.
I wanted to plug out, but it didn't matter, because
you know whatever, all right, continuing on UH to prove
that Washington, DC was now safe after his crime emergency,
Donald Trump went out to dinner at a local steakhouse,
where they carefully slipped in some KFC.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
That's right. Locals at the restaurant heckled the president and
his group, which included Little Marco and an Ohio man
described as a couch fucker.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
Reportedly, the hecklers asked and press asked Trump about the
Epstein books with his signature, which shocked the Orange Goon
because he had forgotten that he knew how to write.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Also, I don't know if you've seen the pictures of
him from today, but I think maybe he had a stroke,
So you know, just keep an eye on that one.
One side of his face doesn't seem to know what
the other side of his face is doing. That's not headlined.
That's just a thing I noticed.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That's our next news segment. That's just the thing I noticed.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
It's just the thing I noticed. Yeah, okay, Trump is
suffering from a condition called venus insufficiency, which should not
be confused with his other conditions cerebral insufficiency. I nearly
fucked that one up. That's all right, you got you
got through.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
Russian drones flew over Polish airspace and NATO members shot
them all down, finally answering the question how many Polics
does it take to shoot down a Russian drone attack?
About f sixteen of them.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Nice, not doing polock jokes anymore, Taz, that's really considered that.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yo, that's the one.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I didn't kind of avoid that one, and I think
I messed up, Like count hilarious. If I have an
off air, I think I'll say something about that.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's insa just remind me of something, Oh my god,
all right. FIFA announced that they would start selling tickets
to the twenty twenty six World Cup, which will be
held in North America and feature forty eighteen to start
the group stage. No word yet on prices, but foreign
visitors will be required to buy deportation insurance.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
How much the deportation insurance called.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Shit, I don't know, but it comes on ice.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh god, oh god, that's good. I mean, I'm let
that one just sit there for that.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
In other sports news, the NFL seasons kicked off with
some exciting names.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Not one tonight. I don't like what's going on my TV.
I don't like what's going on at all.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
And due to our remote format, no studio doors were
harmed in the process.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Yes, that is inside baseball there.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
That is a very inside chipchat joke. But it is
very very funny.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
That is crazy.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, well, we can't antagonize Brian about it later.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah a A.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Ron Rodgers and Joey Flacco both started for their respective teams,
making the first time in NFL history that two starting
quarterbacks could also claim care.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Before to defend there's tough questions from Tennis after the
health department.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Who guy likes to mend.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Okay also read it in like a reasonable You know,
I feel bad because like every time I make fun
of him the way he talks, I'm reminded that Diane
Reim has the same condition. Yeah. I never tolerate anybody
making fun of her, you know.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
But but again, no one's making fun I might like
as I think the impression as I tell my Diane story,
which is a great one. Oh dear, thank you, the
same way, don't I feel like, Yeah, an equal opportunity.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's there.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
I have a harm change to defend his existence and
face tough questions from senators after the Health Department issued
new guidelines to ban Jareditol.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Right, that's a joke that senators are old. That's what
that joke is, Okay, I just wanted to be clear
about that. RFK went on to claim that tilent All
causes autism, but that the heroine he injected for fifteen
years was fine.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Right, of course, it's fine.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Answer questions. Meanwhile, the actual staff and HHS is down
to rfk's dealer and the worm.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
All right, no more big are Okay? That was my
stick the whole Sunday and everybody everybody around me. Yeah,
they're really tired, everybody who's reading to kill me because
I went for like six hours with that straight. It
was so bad, like from the Commander's game, after the

(25:56):
commander is getting on, I was just that's really these
new jobs data is showing that the US created only
twenty two thousand jobs in the month of August, or
roughly the number of people Trump needs to help him
cheap at golf.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
The Labor Department also revised down the total number of
jobs created in the previous few months and even the
year prior, fueling speculations of an economic downturn. In response,
Trump promised higher penguin tariffs. Yeah, got a tax tax
the barrier, those goddamn penguins. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
In other government news, the DoD did try renaming itself
as the Department of War talked about last week, but
because of a policy set forth by p headshef it
still has to use the bathroom's label Defense Department, The
Defense Department. Is this I didn't catch that story. Is
this based on him trying to make sure there's no
like like all gender bathrooms and.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
He can't be trans and be in the military anymore, so,
you know, going by your preferred name as opposed to
the one on your founding documents, you know, Yeah, you're right.
It's funny that the Department of War can just change
its name.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And whoever wants to be yeah, and live.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Its life as the Department of War, not the Department
of Defense the way it was created by Congress. Yeah, yep.
Trump threatened to use the Department of War against Chicago
after a band of vikings proof that Chicago is somewhat defenseless.
That is good. That is good, even though.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Whatever, but it's a good That was a good joke.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's a good joke, really good joke. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
And finally the authorities in and finally authorities in Australia
have approved a committee of vaccine for koalas, which made JD.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Vans really excited for some reason. Yes, that's the headlines.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
That's the headlines, all right. I hope you enjoyed it.
That's the only funny part of the show. So if
it was funny, I thought it was funny phenominally. Yeah,
this is a comedy show. All right, We're gonna take
a break, which this is often the time when Brian
does things to us, so you know, never know, but

(28:13):
you know, if we do feature Alex Jones tonight, just
just you know. When the thing happened to Charlie Kirk,
one of the things the internet said is quick, do
Alex Jones next. So I just want to be like
you know, in case we didn't cause that, we didn't
have anything to do with that.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
We'll never play well, we didn't cause anything that. We've
never mentioned that person's name on the show that I
can recall.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, maybe we didn't cause none. And we're we're on
like you can see us, like this is live, so
you know, you know where we're at. So we're all
gonna be good. So yeah, we're gonna take a break
and we'll be right back with some sad things to
talk about. You're listening to on Beltway Radio.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
And beyond, all I could ever do is hate this
the really most American.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
I wish that I could camera again. I am crying.
Why me?

Speaker 4 (29:11):
I feel like Nancy Cameragan soldiers on my streets is
really getting clique.

Speaker 10 (29:15):
The occupation is intense oppressive for the meet with criminality
on the rise. When all we see his eyes of
the master sailants contriving all these lies, they'll sat you
up in their van, hardless, They'll take you from.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Your family, startless, They'll.

Speaker 10 (29:35):
Take you to the fasality hardless, hardless.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Resistance is the only path against the darkness.

Speaker 10 (29:45):
Fascism is a business that only pats corruption, it's cronies
and sikaphants, newly full of det They cry that they're
the victims will prosecuting terror. They consecre the people in proclaim.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
It's just the narror, the coward ring and faithless.

Speaker 10 (29:57):
They only try to ride it. The scared timt They
try to hide it blucky behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
A harder group is.

Speaker 10 (30:03):
Growing through resistance to the power, the forceful and the knowing.
They'll set you up in their van, hardless. They'll take
you from your family, SmartLess.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
They'll take you to the faciality.

Speaker 9 (30:20):
Hardless.

Speaker 10 (30:21):
Hardless resistance is the only path against the darkness, fighting
back against the Democrat, to free your only siblings.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Take it to the streets and show them.

Speaker 10 (30:32):
We are gaining a nationwide strike of all the precious
commerce and the fian force against the oppression that's only
getting worse. About your weapons and you picket science. There's
no time like the president. The militant resistance is forced
upon the presidents. A clap duck against occupation is truly
so American.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
I feel so sad. I wish that I could care again.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
They'll set you.

Speaker 10 (30:53):
Up in their van, hardless, They'll take you from your family, sportless, hordless.
They'll take you to the facility. Hardless, hordless. Persistence is
the only path against the darkness.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
All right, welcome back to chip chat. You're on Beltwegh
radio and behind I'm ros Chip with me? Is TZ
all right? Brian? What was that?

Speaker 4 (31:53):
How do you send it to me?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
YEA, I sent it to you. Uh, that's true. I
get said.

Speaker 4 (31:59):
What for what we're trying?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I'm trying to keep up appearances or whatever. I know,
I did send it, all right, Tas what did you
think of that song? To be trueful?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
When I got a beer in the first part of it,
But then I did hear the resistance piece and I
was listening to the second second verse, and uh, I mean, yeah,
I agree with the message. Yeah, you know, I agree
with the message. You know, why wouldn't I? Is it

(32:32):
more like that they we're asking for a technical Yeah,
I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
When you think of like that, you know, you know,
the first it's the.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
First thing I always want to start with nowadays, is like,
is this AI or is that a real person?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Sort of sort of that's what do you sort of?

Speaker 3 (32:50):
That's that's a no question.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
AI.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Does it sounds well, let's put this way, I know
that that boy sounds familiar.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
As he I don't think so he doesn't think he
doesn't think it sounds familiar. You.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
No, I would agree with that as well too.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Right, yeah, all right, so, uh you know our buddy
early bird.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, that's what I would say. It reminds Yes, that's
what it reminds me of.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah. So I wrote that, and then I asked him
what program he used, and he gave me the info.
So I I ran it through the robot. Look at you.
So now, uh so I'm not willing to let it
generate anything, you know, like, uh, you love that.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I mean, you wrote it, but it generated.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah, it made the whole song. I wrote the words.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
It is generating something of course.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, yeah, the music and all that stuff. It did
a pretty good job. And uh yeah, so anyway, I
thought it was pretty good that I wrote it, and
then I didn't. I couldn't get any I couldn't make
it sound any good. Obviously, I don't know how to
produce anything. So uh, I used the robot and it
did the thing. So correct the robot.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
It's still the robot is interesting in the sense that
you know it is and where I think the artists
will still always it will always bring supreme like the
human art is that maybe it'll get better, but it's
formulated to a point where it's like, oh, because it's
putting one thing after another based on like what did
you doing and the human being able Like the humans

(34:34):
have those weird like you know you play music, right, yeah,
you know, it's not those things you can there's something
that robot won't be able to ever recreate. I hope,
like the almost like.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
The happy accident.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
That you didn't mean, you didn't mean the play, but
then it still weaves in and it adds that too,
and I don't know. I mean, maybe eventually they'll mimic
that in some way. I would assume, right, I would,
because it's out there to be mimic. But I don't
know if you can mimic that. That's that's that's always
my interesting take on these is that's always what's missing
from it.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, I decided to treat it like an instrument, you know,
and I used it to help me with the thing
that I had already created. Right. I don't feel too like,
not that I have any integrity in the first place,
but I I I don't feel like I compromised my
artistic Yeah, you know, all of my my hip hop

(35:34):
albums that I've produced, I.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Have been in a video in a while.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
I've been in an award winning music video in a while. However,
our buddy Priest and no Man has been winning awards
with this documentary that he's been on the documentary circuit
with and we can't even get him on the show.
He's so busy and so covered in accolades and metals
and stuff. So you know, eventually that's gonna happen. He's

(36:01):
gonna get too famous even for us. So that's you know,
that's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yeah, that's a good thing. But No Priest will be
on the show again, I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sure, Yes, he will come back on the show when
he's done on this this crazy tour. And I don't
know how he has the energy to do that, but
you know, God bless him for doing it. And I'm
I'm just so proud of him and excited and and
so happy to see, you know, somebody getting the credit
that they so richly deserve. Yeah, all right, enough avoiding

(36:31):
the topic, let's talk about Yes, we have philibustered enough,
so before we start talking about God, We're going to
talk about two big wars that are going on right now,
which is, uh, the war in Israel and Gaza. And
basically no, I'm sorry, so the war the war in

(36:54):
in Ukraine and the war in Gaza. But one of
the things that that I like to do when i'm
I don't know if everybody else does this, but like
when I'm trying to remember what's going on or or
something in the world, or like search for news stories,
I mentally take a trip around the globe. And that's

(37:15):
just how I like, I can see the world clearly
as such, and so I use that to make sure
I'm not leaving things out. Now. Of course it's not.
I'm still gonna leave some things out, but we're just
going to take a trip, starting you know, from home,
right where we live, and then we're just gonna look around.
So like Haiti is still falling apart and has not

(37:37):
recovered from any of the things that are going on there,
So you know, that's great. Down in Brazil, Jayra Bolsonaro
is just convicted of overthrowing the government. We'll see how
that plays out. There'll be how to play out. Yeah, sure,
until people can't get their coffee all right over here

(38:01):
in this giant continent that most people don't know how
big it is. In Africa, We've got in Sudan and
South Sudan and Western Sudan and Darfur. There's there's still
a major civil war going on in Sudan and not
so much in South Sudan right now, but people are
being deported to South Sudan, so that's that's pretty fun.

(38:23):
And you know, Olivia is still split into two countries
kind of that that's not really getting any better. And
then down here in the Congo and Rwanda, which is
Rwanda is is little tiny you wouldn't know it from there,
like the Jersey sponsorships, but it is a really any
bitty little country compared to his neighbors. But it's batting

(38:46):
well above its average, and it's got all these troops
that have managed to basically overrun all of Congo Democratic
People's Republic of Congo, I should say. So, you know,
that's not great. The M twenty three and all that
that's still ongoing. Moving right along. Nepal is on fire, literally,

(39:06):
which we're gonna we're gonna talk about that a little bit.
We're gonna skip the Middle East and in our rundown
of like acknowledging other conflicts, because that's the thing that
we are going to talk about. Over here in Burma,
there is a five way civil war going on Burma
or Mayamar, depending on who you ask, five way civil war. Uh,
Thailand and Cambodia. We're shooting at each other again pretty recently.

(39:29):
That's a little confusing. Nobody knows why they're shooting at
each other. But then they had a meeting about it.
Then they didn't have a meeting about it, so that's
that's not great. China and the Philippines are like ramming
each other's boats off the coast of Coral Islands and
stuff that's still going on while China is busy trying
to figure out how to overthrow Taiwan or which again,

(39:52):
like look at how little tiny Taiwan is, Like it
is this any bit, I'm not good at this at all,
but it's it's a wee little island. Yeah, there's a
few even smaller islands that are part of it, but
that's the only bit that you can see, right, And
then you know, the Koreans are doing Korea stuff. There's

(40:13):
a bunch of Koreans fighting in Ukraine, which is what
we're going to talk about. And the Russians and the
Chinese and the North Koreans all just signed a like
buddy comedy that they're gonna do to you know. It's
called it's called the Typo Dong Free. That's the name
of the Korean missiles. I love that their missiles are

(40:33):
called Typo Dong sort of like the kind of penis
but a little shorter. And then uh times, Yeah, in
the last two weeks, why not times, what are they
going to do? Shoot an ICBM at me? Oh man,
maybe it did improve things. Okay, you know that's all

(40:54):
going on. There's all kinds of stuff. There's no birds
left in New Zealand. It's like there's a lot of
ship right.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
So like the world wide fire. Yeah, you're a weird
echo that, Brian. Do you hear those weird echo Yeah? Okay,
that's come from you.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
It is coming from me, That's what I'm saying. I
don't know, and it's gone now. I think Brian fixed it. No, Yeah,
there you go.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I just have to talk about it in the time. Yeah,
But to your point, the world is on fire.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
I like it we can do like the news. That's real,
very old nineteen eighties type. Hey, whatever initiative the starting
like graphic that starts the news, it's just a globe
spinning globe.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Oh god, we.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Actually are breaking news. You're just doing the sound for us.
Brian Packer scored a ship. I don't do that. Also,
if you own children, as I do, you should get
a globe. Yes, and you should use it as your
answer to everything. When they ask something, be like, go
get your globe, and so that they have to look

(42:11):
at it on a globe, not a map on a globe,
so they can really see like relative sizes and distances
and stuff.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
Okay, so let's talk about Gospa more philibustering.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Sure, we philibusted, Philip busted with the war wars going across.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
The philibustered about other wars voices as a way to
not talk about this war. So the situation in Gaza
has gotten measurably worse since the last time we checked
in about it. Hard to imagine, but basically here's where
where things stand. The Israelis, of course, have have taken

(42:52):
over control of everything. Nothing's getting in or out of
Gaza without the Israeli say so, that's always been the case,
but it's it's always it's and more so the case.
They are starving the people into submission or death. I submit,
I mean, what else can they do. They've cut off
all the food and water. There's nothing getting in. The
people are dying of starvation. All of the major world organizations,

(43:15):
including the UN, are declaring famines in Gaza, not because
there aren't AID trucks available, but because the Israeli simply
won't let them in. They are bulldozing huge sections of it.
They continue to claim that they're blasting terrorists when they

(43:37):
double tap journalists in hospitals. The settlers in the West
Bank are attacking AID trucks coming from Jordan that are
trying to get across Israel to help the people of Gaza.
Some groups, like the Jordanians and some other countries are

(43:57):
trying to air drop some food and things in to Gaza.
That's not working out because it keeps crushing people and
there's no safe place for anybody to go. The Israelis
are bombing relentlessly. They are trying to flatten what little
structures are left. They continue to tell the people that
they've just got to move to some new quote unquote

(44:18):
safe zone. There's nothing, there's no capacity for anybody to move.
The safe zones aren't safe. The food distribution centers are
killing fields. They're just traps where they you know, blow
a whistle, everybody runs to try to get a packet
of food and gets gunned down in the process. It's
very hunger games. There's a flotilla of AID trying to

(44:38):
make its way from Europe, from Italy and France with
food to try to break the naval blockade to maybe
land on the shores of Gaza to bring these people food.
They're probably not going to get through. The Israelis will
shoot them out of the water. It's but that was
like where we were at, right, That's just of like, Okay,

(45:02):
this is the status quote. The Israelies kill thousands of
people a month, and the world wags its finger at
him and says, not get off. But they don't knock
it off, and no consequences come of it. There's like
minor consequences of the French are like, oh, we're gonna
recognize Palistine or whatever. The English are like, oh, we're
gonna recognize positive Isoe does not fucking care these things

(45:23):
about like quote unquote diplomatic pressure that can be applied
to and that you know, that's such a joke. This
guy doesn't give a shit about what the world thinks
about him. And case in point, look at what happened
in Kutar just this week. So in the midst and ally,
a US ally where there is a United States Air base,

(45:45):
a giant United States Air base where a lot of
our where Sentcom is located. Okay, here's what happened. The
Israelis were nominally negotiating with Humas about a ceasefire, and
what their negotiat over are like crazy things. Hamas is
willing to have a seas fire under nearly any circumstances,

(46:07):
but the number one thing, basically, the only thing they
want is for the Israelis to leave Gaza. And it's
not really clear like what remains of Humas for the
Israelis to even be negotiating with or about. Their tunnels
are probably still there, but their ability to like feed

(46:28):
their people and run an army is zero, So that's
that's kind of a moot point. But anyway, Hamas wants
the Israelis out of Gaza. The Israelis will simply not
except that the Israelis want all of their hostages back,
which the Hamas is willing to give in exchange for
all the prisoners that the Israelis are holding. That looked
like they were kind of on the edge of that deal.

(46:49):
And right when they were on the edge of that deal,
some of the remaining external Hummas leadership that are outside
of Gaza were brought in flown in from Turkey where
they're hiding to Doha in Qatar to maybe sign the deal.

(47:12):
And when they arrived, they were in the house and
the Israelis fucking bombed it. Like, didn't tell the Kataris,
didn't tell the Americans until they already the planes were
in the air and they were like a two minutes out.
They're like, they called up, by the way, two minutes
from now, you gotta air a big boom. Our radar
and stuff at the airbase picked it up right for sure.

(47:34):
We saw them coming and was like, hey, what y'all doing,
and they're like, don't worry about it, it's fine, and
then bam, well any chance of a piece deal it's
fucking gone. Now, Like you realize how bad it is
that they've bombed a US ally where a US airbase,
a giant US airbase where there's thousands of American troops.

(47:56):
They bombed that country also just took fire from the
Iranians for the you know, the upside of the same thing.
So they've been attacked by the Israelis and Iran for
the same piece of the same war. This means that
the Israelis have struck now in Iran, in Qatar, in Syria,

(48:18):
in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Jordan, like the sovereignty of
any of these countries. While Israelis is clamoring, banging the
drum loudly that they have sovereignty, they have the right
to defend themselves all of that, while they're blatantly violating
the sovereignty of all these other countries. And what the fuck, man,

(48:44):
what the fuck are we gonna do about that? There's no.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
It's interesting to where this has moved right now. There's
always been a lack of motivation and from the United
States to check the state of Israel on things that
it should have right and and and it's all right,
that's because there's a there's been a policy for years

(49:12):
that the friends the democracy, but no, No, it's a
Israel is a specific location in the world that is
very important to the United States. So that's the one
piece of it. But then, but but now we've moved
I think that we've moved now to where at least

(49:33):
then what was said was that Israel was defense was
the defenseless person in the region, right right, which.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Oppressed tiny country fighting back against a hostile neighborhood.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Which I always found a little difficult for me to
be like, oh, that's what it is when you're backed
by the United States of America. I don't there's no
way for me. I can't ever like square that circle
at all, because it's like, well, no anything that ever,
if someone does anything to you in that in that
area of the world, the United States of America is
going to come with the full force of the United

(50:08):
States military. But right, no matter what there was, there's
a time, right, there's been multiple wars where it's like all.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Right, yeah, everything up to the Young Kippot War in
seventy three, the Israelis basically had to fight on their
own with like surplus French weapons that they got on
the black market. But now after.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
That, yeah, right after that, and now you're the for
lack of a vetoric, you're the superpower in the region.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
To be honest, you are the only nuclear armed nuclear
arm power.

Speaker 4 (50:40):
And now even at one point you're the aggressor in
your in your own nation towards a group of people,
but now you're an aggressor to the region. And Donald
Trump has a question to ask himself about what he
cares about. A lot is stability in that region and
more importantly with the individuals in that region. And right now,

(51:03):
the Qataris have to be saying, hey, the only reason
we have an air base here is for security. And
where is our security? Right we we there's two allies,
right And you would think an ally would listen, right,
You would think that the United States has some type
of sway.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But Benjamin that Yahoo is going like a.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Full scorched earth approach at this point in his own
territory and occupied and others now sovereign territories. And I
think I find that. I mean, it's despicable. I mean
I find a man to be despicable for multiple reasons.
But now, I mean there needs to be something has
to be done now, because I think the the air

(51:46):
of nations at a certain point will be like, wait,
hold on, this isn't. This isn't what we were signed
up for. And that can and that can get really sticky,
really fast if it vibes trying to change with the
air of nations who are friendly to the United States.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Well, let's keep in mind also that there are several
Arab nations Jordan and Egypt that have peace treaties with
Israel that that recognize its existence and its borders as
it stands. And then you've got these Abraham Accords that
that Trump got in his first term, where the golf
Arabs basically are you know, they're they're in so many words,
recognizing the state of Israel as it so like and

(52:30):
I would say.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Sold out to Palestinians.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
But you know whatever, sure, that's that's a different way.
You know, that's that's one way to look at it.
But basically, you know, in the Saudis, who are the
big dogs in this whole area here, right, they're desperate
for a way, in a method two get out from
this Palestinian conflict and start making tons of money working

(52:54):
with the Israelis.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
So this Buttya who is is is interested in not
going to jail and staying in power.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, it is. It is utterly baffling to me because
you know, it does lay bare this this thing that
nobody here ever really meant for there to be stability
or piece in that region. Like they they want the
the Israeli right wants the conflict. They want it to

(53:25):
stay in conflict. They don't want to ever reach a resolution.
They're actively talking about annexation the last they don't want
them to reach a resolution like it. Yeah, so they're
awfully similar, right, the smoll Drich guys, and and and
Ben Givier, these guys, you know, they're awfully similar to
Hamas and in that they want an endless conflict between

(53:47):
these groups. They don't want any real resolution. They don't
want a two state solution obviously. They you know, and
Trump kind of like joined in on that with the
the bulldoze Gaza and make it into you know, we'll
give them five thousand dollars to relocate or whatever, which
is imhortant. It's what's happening in Gaza is a genocide.

(54:08):
There's no question about that. Said that, we've said that,
everybody can see it. It's it's there's no other way
to describe that why they want to genocide that group
and take that piece of territory is not doesn't make
a lot of sense, except about their relative defenselessness. But like,

(54:30):
that's not the agriculturally valuable part of Israel, it's not
the touristy valuable part of his It's like nothing there
that you'd want. But if you want to kill a
bunch of people who you don't like, they're there and
they can't get it out, so that's a good place
to do it. But now this question of like attacking
these these things in these other sovereign nations, it's very

(54:53):
clear that there was no endgame in in Gaza that
had made any sense. Netyahu continued to shatter every attempt
at an end. He's never made clear what the end is.
He's lost several members of his government over his lack
of a plan and all of that. There's certainly no
endgame in terms of the West Bank. I think everybody's

(55:16):
sort of okay with that. They're being Note that, like
the de facto position is what people are seeking to
codify into something resembling a country with some sovereignty and
some borders. But what is this goal? What are you
pursuing by bombing other countries that are ostensibly friendly to Israel.
You know, Katar and Israel working deals like they hadn't

(55:38):
signed the Abraham Accords, that they're awfully close to doing it.
Qatar is loaded with foreign military bases, both not just
from the United States but also from other European powers
and and other you know they are. They are the
diplomats of the of the Gulf. Right. They they recognize
that oil isn't and gas isn't going to be their future.

(55:59):
They've diversified into other things. They're the most modern part
of this economy. They bought a World Cup. They conveniently
hid their slave labor, even though on Google mats and
still shows up his labor camps, which is pretty funny.
They did all of these things to kind of like
tug the rest of that region out from behind the

(56:19):
eighties and get them moving into this century. And now
the Israelis just obliterated that. And yet to your point
about security, I mean, for Fox's sake, the whole purpose
of letting the Americans take up space and make you
a bit of a target by being in your country
is that they will defend you in defense of themselves. Now,

(56:43):
you can't imagine a situation where the American military picks
up a flight of Israeli jets inbound and scrambles fighters
to shoot them down.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
That's not it's not gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
But we are really out of point where like and.

Speaker 12 (57:01):
If and if it, if it did, I don't know,
I mean, I think that sends one of the direct
Like I don't know, that sends a direct message.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
And I don't know if that's seven you arrange something
like that, you know, you get them to send a
drone after something and you shoot the drone down, and
and you just say, like, all right, guys, you were
flying over this territory that we've got a no fly
zone on or we've got, you know, an obligation to protect.
We weren't sure what y'all were up to. We shot
you down. Understand that we could do it and make

(57:35):
that same mistake with a pilot in it next time, Like,
let's not do that again. Maybe you start with that.
I don't know. I mean, Number one, you got to
cut off the weapons. And and that's not just about
like stop selling them anything. You have to ground their fleet.
You know, they've got this this fleet of American fighter
aircraft that they are using to perpetrate all of these things.

(57:58):
There is a way, whether on paper or international.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Laws, what they're perpetrating, right.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Well, they don't care about that. Yeah, Like, I mean.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
What am I talking about?

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Violated law? You want to watch Babe wipe his ass
with the document, tell him he's violating it.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
It's like starving children.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Yeah, give it ship starting ship. They're massacring their children.
So no, I don't care about that. But the Americans
can ground the planes. They can. They can either shut
off systems that are necessary for them to fly if
they don't play ball, or they can you know, just
call them up and be like, we are going to

(58:42):
shut off the systems mid flight. If you don't knock
it off. Like there, there's there's things that can happen
and it has to come to that, and then that
irreparably damages the relationship. You know, it never really will
come back from that. So and were we in this
situation where we had you know, it's not like Biden

(59:04):
wasn't very supportive of Israel. He was extremely supportive. But
if we had competent leadership at the Department of Defense
in the intelligence community and in the White House. I
would imagine they'd be working something out, but but we don't.
We have a madman talking about the Mediterranean Riviera or whatever,

(59:29):
and so of course they're not going to work out
a deal. Like there's there's no grown ups there to
like manage this.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
So I mean, my ghost is back, the ghosts return.
I find I've always found America's posture again towards Israel

(59:58):
to be very union unique in the sense that, obviously,
I know, there's a policy of defending whatever happens, no
matter what in that region, whatever's done, America.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Will defend the state of Israel. Right, So that's always
been the case.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Sorry, I get that, but not that we're willing to
commit troops to it's that we're gonna defend by letting
them do horrible, horrible shit. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Fine, Yeah, But I wonder now because again, there will
be an after, and it will be an after like
the Trump administration, It'll be some type of after, and
I think that maybe even it might become bipartisan to
an extent, because even if you look at the Trump

(01:00:43):
if you look at the actual Trump policy around like
not going out and fighting other war right and more
than like this doesn't it doesn't work. And I think
there are people in his base that are like, well,
why are we supporting why are we supporting them to
go ahead and do these I think there are people
that are wondering, why is that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Money being spent there and not at home?

Speaker 4 (01:01:08):
Right? They don't care about the actual like whatever, Like
the posture has been.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
For America for whatever, like sixty seven years. Yeah, but
the problem is that the part of his base that
wants there not to be any more foreign wars is
also the evangelical part of his base, and they are
not going to give up on this. So I don't
see I don't see that part of it cracking.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
MTG talking about like why are we Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
But I don't, Okay, I don't. I don't think that
Trump ever meant that He's not that he wants to
stop warring. I think he wants to war. No, I
think I think that was a lie. I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
I don't necessarily think that's a lie.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
I don't think he is a big war I don't
think he's a war bonger. I think if you look
at his his back and forth with John Bolton a
lot of times, I don't think he looks at it.
I don't think he looks at it that way because
it goes back to his whole like deal making and
the peace process and eventually this peace prize.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
I think that is a big.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah, but he's so willing to use the military for
everything and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
Like domestically, but but I also think he's he's willing
to use the military for things, but when it comes
to these large conflicts, that is something he has to
have a stomach for. And I think even in looking
from the reporting that the conversation you had with Yahoo
and granted doesn't go anywhere, but it's like, hey, what
the hell are you doing? What do you think you
were going to accomplish with this? Like I don't it's

(01:02:39):
and again it's nothing forceful. But what's he gonna do about,
you know?

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
The policy?

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
I would have asked about many American presidents about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Yeah, I think that that's nothing new. I think that
in a way, the American policy regarding Israel is effectively
a no win trap. We can't get out from this
because if we put meaningful pressure on the Israelis to

(01:03:09):
stop doing things by say, cutting off weapons or cutting
off intelligence or cutting off access. We may never really
be able to get that alliance back, and that maybe
is too critical to the security of the United States
in a global conflict, then people are willing to talk

(01:03:29):
about although you know, depending on who's running that show
over there, if you're counting on the Israelis to do
the thing in if America is in a conflict in
that region or otherwise, I'm not sure i'd trust that
net and Yahoo would do that. Right If let's say,
you know, during the during the Iraq War, the Americans

(01:03:51):
were routinely took advantage of the Israelis help with things
like aerial surveillance or flying air traft control, a wax
and all that other kind of stuff in you refueling,
all of those kinds of things. As as we're bombing Iraq,
as we're bombing Isis, as we're doing all that working
hand in hand with the Israelis on coordinated strikes, on

(01:04:13):
coordinated intelligence, I'm not sure that if you've gott Met
and Yahoo in charge now, I mean he was in
charge then, but like this version of him and America
was to do another war in the Middle East or otherwise,
that the Israelis would actually share the right intelligence so
that they would let us refuel or that they you know,
so like if you did anything, that chance is obliterated.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
I think it starts with the Israeli people, and they
need to work.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
It's going to have to be them. It starts there,
and it needs to be a collection of.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Israeli citizens that realize that their safety has been put
in jeopardy again because of their government, right and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Well, you're starting to see reservists are refusing to show up,
and I think, you know, you've got this Israeli defense
force that is entirely dependent on the citizen reserve that comes,
you know, when they're getting called up. But they all
can say no, and that would be the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
I mean, it is the Middle East? Is that is
that country? Is that country of the like from revolution?

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
I don't know? Is I mean, I don't know, is
what does that look like?

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Because again enough people, I mean we've seen Israeli citizens
hit the streets before, and not that they necessarily hit
they hit the streets in the sense of like, oh,
we're trying to stop like the gods of war and
the sense of that, but I mean specifically around like
the Supreme Court changes and things and then law changes
that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Yeah, but they you know what, here's this crazy thing.
As you know, I happen to know a little bit
about how the people there are receiving the news about
stuff they buy and large. Don't think that the people
in gods that are starving to death they buy and

(01:06:04):
large aren't really being informed about the atrocities that are
going on in there. And they're just sort of I
think that it's overblown.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
They daily did an actual show on this about that,
the woman who was a news broadcaster, and like she
brought up about like feeling for palacities and they're like,
what the hell, lady.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Yeah, And even the people who who were protesting the
changes at the Supreme Court and all that that you
might consider to be the sort of centrist or center
left versions of Israeli politics, they're all still fine with
killing gosins Like that doesn't matter to them and they
don't think it's happening. I mean, you're not going to

(01:06:49):
tell them that the IDF is committing a genocide. They'll
never believe it that. They'll call you an anti semi
for saying that, because how can we be the ones
to to perpetrate a genocide. We're the victims of the genocide.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
Well I'm asking, yeah, I mean, we're not immune.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Look at the just look at what's happening. I mean
that there's but they don't see that. They don't they
the media there is very uh uh. It's not that
it's controlled, but that they just simply won't show it.
That the government doesn't have to lean on him to
not show this stuff. They don't want to show it.
They're not interested in that. So the people in Israel

(01:07:31):
just have no idea how terrible the situations are in
all of these other within their own borders. Really, So
I don't know, I mean, but yeah, to your point,
it's gonna have to come from there because there's nothing
that an American president can do, and there's certainly nothing
this American president. He has no credibility with the world,

(01:07:54):
he has no credibility with his own defense establishment. There's
just nothing. You know, he told everybody in the war
in twenty four hours and he hasn't done that, and
he sent Witkough back and forth. And he's a bumbling fool,
you know, and these guys are all playing him like
a like a fiddle.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
There's just you gotta be careful though, because even again, right,
I know, we always talk about that it's not gonna
be elections, but eventually, like the way this, if there's
a populous movement that swings to the left, right, I
don't I don't think that there's an appetite right on
the left at this point. Four is like, if there's

(01:08:32):
not a moderate, let's just say right, eventually, again, there's
not a moderate that's in the White House, and there's
someone who's like far to the left, I think you
could see some crazy different posture like yeah, that makes
that makes what like Obama saying yo, criticizing Israel, which
wasn't even crazy. He was just like I don't know,

(01:08:52):
and that threw everybody up in arms.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
There.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
I think you could see something that is actually a
lot more drastic for the state of Israel that again,
it's still the United States of America at the end
of the day, like regardless of what all is going on,
like it's backing at least still for now means something,
and there is not an appetite in this country right now.

(01:09:18):
I think from the like left center to the far
left of what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
In Israel now, well, the real the real indicator to
watch is people like me. If if the Israelis have
lost the support of the center left Jewish Americans, the
Chuck Schumers of the world, they got nothing. I mean
in America, they've got the evangelical base. But if the

(01:09:49):
people like me aren't here like making the they're just
defending themselves argument, there's no political will to protect them. Ever. Again,
that's what I think. I think that election in New York.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
I think that that was odd to me because I
don't like again, not that he's out there, not that
he's out there like actively campaigning on it, but I mean,
I think that type of individual still like still obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
The mayor of New York doesn't have any sway on
the midway right exactly, but in terms of will uh
center left or progressive Jewish Americans vote for somebody who
calls what's happening in Gaza genocide? The answers apparently yes,
apparently yes.

Speaker 4 (01:10:37):
And I have still find that to be one of
the more shocking things that have happened this year. I
was like, what what I was there that day would
be election?

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
What I've been bar mitsfled. I can read and write
Hebrew I go to you know, I went to Hebrew school.
I'm gonna go to services for Russiashana. I'm not like
a very I'm not observant any stretch but the imagination now.
But I am deeply Jewish, and I think that what's
happening is completely awful and it is genocide. And I

(01:11:09):
don't like that it's tied to anybody who has a
similar background to me. I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Right, and I think there's a lot of people that
feel that way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
I think I'm not alone.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
You're not alone. And I find that to be something
different in my time in this country, which I've seen
the seat change on that there was a time where
you couldn't I've tried.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
To have these conversations and people have shut me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Down and I and get get friends like but just
I'm not ever going to be able to like there
was never a way in on that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
No, they had their position.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
I could state whatever I wanted to state, but that
position wasn't changing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
It was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:49):
But I find that this is a different time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
This is a different thing. Hey, if you'd asked me
about the response to the first Intifada, that was all
completely defensible it was. It was disproportionate, heavy handed, you know,
clearly meant to instill fear and pain and terror and
to strike back and harm the people who did the things.

(01:12:13):
But I could easily make a case of like, look,
they started this ship if they wanted, if they didn't
want to smoke, they shouldn't have come with it, you know,
like that, that that could be that. This is nothing
like that. This is nothing like that. It's so overwhelmingly disproportioned,
it's so long term, and it's so clearly based on
the plan of annihilation that it's not a reaction to

(01:12:38):
October seventh at all. This is now gone. Yeah, that's
long gone. This is a now, as far as I
can tell, infinite campaign of destruction. There's no end, there's
no plan, there's no like, Okay, we got the bad guy,
there's no who is the bad guy? You just you

(01:12:59):
keep killing bad guys and then telling me that they
got a new bad guys and that's next. Isn't that convenient?
It's like a Mario, uh, the bombus just keep coming
and just keep hopping on them. What a fucking world.
All right, let's take a break so we can come
back and talk about something else horrible and sad and miserable,

(01:13:21):
which is yet another big war. And then we're gonna
have the third half of the show, which is about
something happening here that is very serious and scary. And
then we'll go on to the even more recent serious
and scary thing in the fourth half of the show.
So we're about halfway there, keeping track at home keeping

(01:13:42):
playing the home game night midnight. We're hoping all right,
So we're gonna take a break.

Speaker 4 (01:13:49):
We'll be right back.

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All right, welcome back to Chipjack here on Beltwegh Radio
and beyond. I'm yours Chip with me is tz probably
all right? So we just talked about one war. Let's
talk about another one. Uh, this is our favorite one.
I guess do you have a favorite war? Favorite war?

Speaker 9 (01:17:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
One clear? Favorite war? Yeah? I bet clear? Yeah, Well
you like the outcome of it anyway, the war, the
war apartment. Yeah, okay. So we're gonna take a trip. Now,
we're going over How am I doing that?

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
I'm not doing that? Right. You see this young guy
right there. That's that's it. That's where we're going. This
is Ukraine. Don't tell me you can't find Ukraine on
the map. No I can, definitely. I'm not the Mike Pompeo.
That's an NPR joke speaking which I'm very sad about.
Susan Stanford finally retiring, even though she's like, you know,

(01:18:34):
eighty and deserves it, but.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
Right be able to retire.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
She can't retire. I need her in my life forever.
And I learned that of all of the things on
NPR that I love, she's responsible for way more of
them than I knew. She initiated the Puzzler, she created
Car Talk by accident by bringing them on to answer
car questions. Uh so, you know, and weekend Edition Sunday

(01:19:03):
and everything. I mean, like, I get a huge kick
out of the way Ayisha Rosco does the Will Shorts.
Oh my god, I just love love the way she
says and puzzle Master, like it's the build up and
the release in the way she says the word, it's
so great. And it's like, oh, well, Susan Sandberg made

(01:19:24):
that possible. And when they have other people host it
and they're like, yeah, it's not you know that part
of it is the thing, it's like, yeah, it's just
not quite there. I need her voice saying that whole intro. Yeah,
I just yeah, I live for that. Every week. It's
like it's been a tough week, but at least as

(01:19:44):
Rosco is going to introduce Will Shorts and it's gonna
feel great. Okay, So anyway over to Ukraine, where which
is not Bangladesh, And okay, here's what you gotta know.
Ukraine has been in this warl with Russia for a
long time, with Russians invader. They attacked, They're killing lots

(01:20:04):
and lots of people. A lot of Russians are dying
in this war. They are losing like a thousand troops
a day or something like that, maybe not a day
a week, but they ain't massacred out there. So like,
initially this war was fought in a very old school
World War One sort of way. There were trenches. The

(01:20:29):
Russians tried to advance with tanks, Ukrainians stopped them with trenches.
Then it was about artillery as they were both sort
of in their lines and shooting at each other like
over over large distances. And then the artillery moved to
like missile artillery attack thems and all this other kind
of stuff. But by now this war is being fought
almost entirely through drone warfare. Hich is crazy crazy, and

(01:20:55):
so every day, every night, the Russians send an absolute
barrage of drones and missiles to attack Ukraine and they
just fly them right over and you know, try to
hit apartment buildings or whatever. They can hit critical infrastructure
things that they're after, and by and large the Ukrainians

(01:21:18):
shoot a lot of them down, some of them make
it through, but there's on Kiev. Yeah, in particular, they've
been really interested in trying to punch big holes into Kiev,
which is the most heavily fortified area. But you know,
it's a very scalemate situation. There's there's no territorial gain

(01:21:39):
going on this This war is just dragging on with
no discernible outcome at all. The attempts at peace are
going absolutely nowhere. Trump obviously had the meeting with Putin
and then with Zelenski and the rest of the Europeans
went went nowhere. Trump doesn't what the fuck's going on

(01:22:01):
in this war. He knows that he owes Putin, so
you know he does want to like get to critical
of him and all of that. And the Russians can
basically keep this up for as long as they want.
They have as many people as they need. They're they're
buying cannon fodder from the North Koreans who are perfectly
willing to sell it to them, and as long as

(01:22:23):
they've got a steady supply of money for their oil,
which is coming from China, which is not being sanctioned,
but and I guess it's some still coming from India
which is being sanctioned. They can just keep this going
for for forever. And part of the way that they
can keep this going is that the West is sort

(01:22:45):
of paralyzed by their unwillingness to to really take this
thing by the horns. And part of that is because
you know, the American don't want to have we don't
want to be decisive in this.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
We could be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
You can give the Ukrainians all of the stuff they need.
We could treat them like we treat the Israelis and
give them literally anything they asked for, and they could
just obliterate Moscow like they could do that. And we
could just give them the weapons to let them do
that and say, hey, look they did what they did.
You know, we just gave them and sold them the weapons,
and they're willing to do that. They want to do that, right.

(01:23:27):
We could do the same thing with Europe. We could
sell them the weapons to sell to the or give
to the Ukrainians. That's kind of the deal that we've
got currently, but there's like limits on what we're giving them, right,
so we're giving the Ukrainians just enough to keep going,
but not enough to win. The Russians don't have enough
to win. And NATO doesn't want to touch this with

(01:23:50):
a twenty foot pole, no, because that's the big war, right,
that's the thing that NATO was created to do. Well,
this week they might have had their hand forced a
little bit. The Russians flew drones into Poland, and there
have been a few yeah things close, yeah missile here,

(01:24:12):
a drone there that's crossed into Polish airspace. But you
can see which direction is going. It's clearly not going
to go into but it's not meant to go into Poland. Well,
these ones couldn't tell. So basically, the Soviets flew these
drones into Poland. They were they came from Belarus into Poland.

(01:24:33):
I don't know if Brian has the map that I
put in the dock that that can kind of show
this so that people can kind of get a good
look at it. But if you if you're sort of
thinking about looking at this on on the map, if
you if you look at Poland, you look just to
the east of it, there's Belarus. If you look to
the southeast of it, there's there's Ukraine. Most of the
attacks on Ukraine have been to the east of all

(01:24:55):
thats is flying directly from Russia into eastern Ukraine. But
to attack western Ukraine, most of these attacks have been
coming from Belarus directly into Ukraine or from Russia over
Belarus into Ukraine because Belarus is just part of Russia
at this point. So yeah, they're not they're not They're
not a country. So but these ones came from Belarus

(01:25:16):
into Poland flying westbound and then we're maybe gonna loop
south into Ukraine or maybe not. But the Polish Air
Force wasn't taken a guess at it, so they're like,
fuck scramble the fighters right now. The thing to know
about this is that it wasn't just Poland that was

(01:25:38):
involved in shooting these downs, So it was the Dutch
F thirty five's were involved, Poland had F sixteen's, and
the Italians were flying their a wax, which is the
sort of early warning basically can think of it as
air traffic control in the sky. They can see stuff
over the horizon, they've got radars, the spinning disc on
the top of the airplane. Okay, the thing to know

(01:26:00):
about like European Air Force or just in general defense,
is that like Europe is geographically tiny. Again, We're gonna
look at this map here, here's the United States, right, Like,
that's that's the size of a real country. That's what
that's what countries should look like. And then look at Europe.
Europe itself is like the whole thing is this big, right,

(01:26:25):
not counting Spain, even if we want to count Spain. Okay,
it's it's it's pretty geographically small, you know, and they've
got pink money, so like it's rough for them. And
the only way they can pretend to be a country
or a group of countries is to cooperate. So like,
at any given time, who's in the air, as the

(01:26:47):
response could be the Dutch, could be, the Germans, could
be the French, could be the English. They're all just
sort of like taking turns. They're on a rotation or whatever, right,
So yeah, the Poles scrambled there fighters that the Dutch
were the ones in the air could have just as
easily been the Germans of the French, or the Swedes
or whoever. At this point now that tweeds in NATO.

(01:27:09):
So anyway, they shot down a bunch of these things
which turned out to be dummies. That's like a big
twist on this because the Russians are flying these dummy
drones that look like and have the same radar signature
as the arms drones to try to overwhelm the Ukrainian
air defenses a lot of the time. And so why

(01:27:32):
would they flying dummy drones into Poland that looked like
they were on a flight path for an attack. Now
imagine if the Poles just like shot them down and
done nothing about it, or didn't shoot them down and
just figured that they were dummies and let them go. Well,
the next thing that would happen is the Russians would
try another thing or a bigger thing, you know. So
they can't do that, so they shoot them down bam,

(01:27:54):
and they invoke Article four right now, not five. But
here's where we're going to get to five, because everybody's
talking about, oh well, it's an Article five, and we're
gonna be What people are worried about is that the
Russians end up actually shooting at and or killing some
soldiers or airmen or whatever of a NATO country and

(01:28:17):
Article five could be invoked and basically draw the rest
of NATO into the defense of that country, and defense
meaning striking back at the Soviets. Right, that's the common
understanding of Article five. But I'm going to read you
Article five because it does matter, and you're going to

(01:28:39):
notice some key things in here. You ready, the parties
agree that an armed attack against one or more of
them in Europe or North America shall be considered an
attack against them all. And consequently they agree that if
such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise
of the right of individual or collect self defense recognized

(01:29:02):
by Article fifty one of the Charter of the United Nations,
will assist the party or party so attacked by taking
forthwith individually and in concert with the other parties, such
actions as the necessary, including the use of armed force,
to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

(01:29:25):
Any such armed attack, and all measures taken as a
result thereof, shall immediately be reported to the Security Council.
Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has
taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace
and security. What stands out to you about that.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
I mean, as you read it, I interpreted as let's
say they end up striking and killing someone in Poland, right,
that Poland could ask for the right Article five to
be enacted. But who jumps in out It doesn't necessarily

(01:30:08):
seem to be all of NATO.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
It could.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Who decides to go into this.

Speaker 4 (01:30:16):
It seems to be very vague and obviously like the
one time this has been enacted is for US right,
for for len none leven right today, right exactly today,
twenty four years ago. But every and I guess I
would need to look. I don't know if every country
at the time sent troops into Afghanistan.

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Nah, now you're kind of getting to the key thing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
They didn't, right, Yeah, No, it was it was a
specific contingent and some of.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Them were willing to do certain things and some of
them were willing to do other things. Right, So this
is that key line in exercise of the right of
individual or collective self defense. So, you know, taking the
Afghanic stand example, the French sent some troops, the Germans
sent some troops, the Italian sent some troops, the English

(01:31:07):
sent some troops. Denmark didn't want to send any troops.
We're very happy to provide air support, in air refueling, surveillance,
you know whatever else. But like that's the kind of
thing where like each country basically decides how much of
their own stuff, whether it's people or you know, capacity

(01:31:31):
or whatever, they're willing to contribute. So imagine Poland gets attacked.
They call out Article five, and Sweden and Germany are like, yeah,
we got you, We're we're in. And France is like, eh,
we'll fly air support, but we don't want to put
any troops on the ground. And they go hey America,
and Trump goes, I know you're on your fucking own
man like to be part of this? Yeah, I don't

(01:31:54):
even want to be part of this. That's problem. And
I think Putin knows it. Yeah, And and so that's
why he did this. He's all but daring them. He's
gonna try it again. He flew these drones in, he
got them to react. They're gonna do it again. Of
course they're gonna do it again. See what else happens?

(01:32:17):
What do we do then? What does this world look like?
We are already we as we demonstrated by spinning that
go and showing you how much conflict is going on
around the world. The capacity of the governing big countries
to manage this stuff is already at the limit at

(01:32:39):
another conflagration, especially in Europe where a lot of the
command and control takes place. I mean, look to the
people in in uh Nicaragua or Togo, Like what's going
on in Europe couldn't matter less. They don't care. They

(01:33:00):
got their own stuff to deal with, and they're they're
they're gonna be fine. It's not great, but they're gonna
be fine. Right there, It doesn't matter. But like to
the big countries in the global integrated economy and the
global integrated information age, that's a big fucking deal man. Yeah,
and again, this is happening when we don't have grown

(01:33:24):
ups running the show. There's no coordinated response. These guys
can't find their ass from a hole in the ground.
They're like, they're big lead on the Charlie Kirk thing
is like, we've got a shoeprint. The guy was wearing Converse.
Oh fuck me, who doesn't own a pair of Chuck
Taylor's Jesus. That doesn't narrow it down at all. Yeah,

(01:33:45):
good job, idiots. Wait, you call me when you've got
some useful information like those are the guy who running
the show right now? What the fuck? I don't feel safe.
I'll tell you that. I don't like that at all.
Oh I don't like that. So you know that's going on.
It's cool. We're just gonna like Also, by the way,

(01:34:07):
they were flying these drones into Polish airspace like all night.
It started night.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
Yeah, that's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:34:13):
It was the duration of like how long that went on?

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
The last one was detected at six point thirty in
the morning. The Russian Charge de fairs that's a state
craft word. Basically, not the ambassador, the next guy up
or below the ambassador, I don't know, assistant ambassador. The
charge got summoned to warsaw and they're like, yo, what

(01:34:39):
what are you doing? And he said, quote, we consider
the accusations groundless, and no evidence that these drones are
Russian was presented except for all the pieces of them
that are Russian. Right, okay. Russian ministry defensive quote no
targets on Polish territory were planned when asked about the incident,
but said that it had launched a major assault on

(01:35:01):
western Ukraine. So they're either just utterly inept or they're lying. Uh,
think I think whying is the right word. Yet you
want to guess, I don't know why they're lying. Trump
on Wednesday offered a cryptic expression, and here's this is
what I texted you. He goes, what's with Russia violating

(01:35:25):
Polish airspace with drones? Here we go? What is he?

Speaker 14 (01:35:31):
Seinfeld? Now, what's the deal with Russia violating Poland's airspace?
What's the deal with airline food?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
You know? I mean, what are you doing here? Guy?
I know he's stuck in the eighties, but okay, yeah,
that's a coherent strategy. I'm just happy that Pete Haggs
had texted me. What they're actually going to do about?
Of course? Nothing? Yeah, nothing, right, bad news all around

(01:36:04):
in Ukraine. Even as many express solidarity with Poland, they're like, hey,
you know, good job shooting down eight of them. We
shoot down several hundred a night, you know, So now
you've got some idea what's going on. There's also ten
thousand American troops in Poland by the Poland right, yeah,
you know, for fun, right, just for fun. They like

(01:36:24):
the the Paroghis, Oh yeah, of course, yeah, you know,
join the army, go to Poland, eat well, just go
to western Pennsylvania. But sure, why not? We don't have
any sanctions. We're nowhere closer to any kind of settlement,
and Trump is being played or helping the Russians delay this.
I don't know which.

Speaker 4 (01:36:45):
Yeah, it's very hard to figure out where we're at
with the policy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Yes, somewhere between a p tape and a bribe. If
this incursion into the rest of Europe continues, it wouldn't
be too far fetch to consider that the Europeans may
lose Baas all together with the US and do this
shit themselves. That would be bad. Yeah, what does that
look like? If it drags on, if it drags the

(01:37:10):
rest of the West into a war with Russia? Can
we even do that? Like, does Nay don't know how
to fight big wars anymore? Or does it only know
how to fight, you know, little skirmishes in the desert.
I don't know. Our systems aren't built for that.

Speaker 13 (01:37:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:37:30):
We used to have hundreds and hundreds of tanks in
Europe expecting a big tank battle right for Central Europe
and the air forces to match it. That is not
what's over there now.

Speaker 4 (01:37:43):
So I don't know, And it's clear that the world
is marching towards a large conflict, right because at least
as I understand, like this from a historical lens, when
you have a lot of these small things happening around
the globe, eventually one of these things, like they they

(01:38:04):
join together and then they turn into something that ends
up being larger, and then you end up having these
groups that band together.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
Right, we have these, right, this is of.

Speaker 4 (01:38:15):
Evil, right, the but like real versions of those eventually
prop up.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
They exist. And if you've got people like Putin who
are part of them and willing to try to push
against other alliances, and you've got and Yahoo doing similar
things where he is driving people into alliances to to
you know, protect their own ass. It doesn't take but

(01:38:42):
one arch duke getting shot, right exactly. That's exactly my
point there. So yeah, not great. Uh you want to
go talk about the domestic stuff here or do you
want to take a break before we do that? No,
it's right, just drive it home, all right, We're gonna

(01:39:03):
plow through through. All right. We're gonna talk about immigration
and what's going on with various court rulings and various
things that are happening vis a the that the first
way we're going to talk about that is to mention
that the House Oversight Committee released hundreds of pages of

(01:39:23):
documents that it received from sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's estate
on Monday, including a redacted version of the quote Birthday Book,
which allegedly was gifted to Epstein on his fiftieth birthday
with messages from high profile brands. So when we talk
about immigration, when we talk about these quote unquote crime emergencies,

(01:39:44):
we want you to focus on the word Epstein, because
that is what this is about. It is what it's
always been about. So I don't know if Brian's got
the images from any of this. I really caution about
showing too much of it. Yeah, but suffice it to
say that the New York Times broke some of this.

(01:40:07):
But the Wall Street Journals, Yeah, and they were right
when they described the drawing. They were right. They had
to print that in the journal. Here it is there.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
It is to print that in the journal. You can't
just print this stuff, y'all. Like their general counselors. There's
teams of lawyers that are before you can go and
actually write the words out that this is the reporting.
They're vetting. This stuff like, no one's getting defamation lawsuits
that they can't like win, right, yeah, they can't defend

(01:40:41):
themselves again.

Speaker 2 (01:40:42):
So but for whatever reason, Trump doesn't know that, so
he sued the Wall Street journel over the and said
that this thing didn't exist. Well, it very clearly does exist.
And the journal was like, I'll see you in court.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
And now they were the first to break this stuff
about the book. They got the things from from the
estate by way of House Oversight. The Democrats on House
oversighte who got these things from the subpoenas. They've been
quick to release it that they drew a little bit
of fire from Comber about that and some other you know,
House Republicans are like, hey, this this seems like you're

(01:41:18):
politicizing it. And they're like no, no, no, no no,
And this is all Garcia. He's playing hardball and he
means it. So he's just we get it, you get it.
That's that's the deal. We're going to make sure that
there's no victim names in it, and then we're going
to release it as fast as possible so that the
American I thought that the Trump bases, that's what they
wanted that's what they said they wanted, right, and and

(01:41:39):
they're getting it. It's remarkably gross. I don't know that.
I how I didn't think it was going to be
this awful. But the stuff that's in this book is
just foul and awful. And it all gets sound to
the same thing, including this whole thing where Epstein's holding

(01:41:59):
a an oversized novelty check from Trump with a handwritten
message below it that says, Jeffrey showing early talents with
money and women sells a fully depreciated woman to Donald
Trump for twenty two five hundred dollars. Could have got
a little more for it, maybe, I don't know, but
how depreciated? What are we talking about here? You can't

(01:42:21):
sell people. We had a war about that. The fuck man.
It's disgusting and gross. And then of course the response
from the White House is to say this is fake.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
It's a fake signature.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
It's a fake signature. He didn't sign that that that
book didn't exist. It's you know, he called Epstein his
best howe what Britain had to sat there? Uh yeah, yeah,
he should be in the book. That's not good. Who

(01:42:56):
is out there believing that this is fake? I mean
apparently half a condress. They're all like, oh yeah, it's fake.
It's fake. It's fake. It's fake. They all get an
interviewed and and they're all like, oh yeah, no, I
don't I don't care about that. That's fake. It's it's
fake news. It's you know what, birch. It was like
anybody could forge the signature, right, Like, come on now,
isn't that the whole point of a signa?

Speaker 10 (01:43:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
It's the one like it's a sharpie signature that I
don't understand why this is the hill that some of
them are willing to die on. They want to go
down defending this to their own base.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
I mean, it up ends a lot of things for them, Yeah,
to admit it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Uh, all right, So then let's talk about what's going
on with the Supreme Court side of all of this.
I assume the game's almost over, No, almost. We were
down a touchdown last night. Look, but it's not looking good.

Speaker 11 (01:43:57):
They're going for two commanders. So they're down by right
now by eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:44:03):
And Eckler went off the field non contact injury.

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
Oh that's not good. We need it. Yeah. Okay, So
you may remember we talked about this actually is that.
The District Court and then the Ninth Circuit said that
the way that Trump's ice raids in Los Angeles were

(01:44:27):
being carried out was illegal because they were picking people
up based on where they were, congregating, what they looked like,
or the language that they were speaking, what kind of
job they were doing. All of that is prohibited by
the Constitution, specifically in the Fourth Amendment. And you know,

(01:44:49):
and the judges were pretty clear ruling that they're like, look,
you can't do that. You cannot use race as your
reason to suspect somebody being here illegally. I don't know
how else they would suspec but that's the thing that
you can't use. So like, right, well, that got challenged
up to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court said, no,

(01:45:12):
actually you can do that. The justices who were who
apparently divided six' three along ideological, lines put on hold
a federal district court's order that rained in what critics
called roving raids By, immigration h And customs. Enforcement that
judge had found that the tactics were likely unconstitutional because

(01:45:33):
the agents were detaining people without probable cause at car,
washers bus, stots and home people parking lots based on. Stereotypes.
Hooray but you, know The High court said this is
on the rocket, docket so it doesn't it doesn't get
a explanation or a full hearing or anything like. That
they just. Ruled they're, like, nope we're stay in that.

(01:45:53):
Order you can go back to the roving, things but beer.
Can't brett added to this he had a concurring opinion
in which he said.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
That you can use.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
Race he said that The High courts majority offered no
explanation for its decision to Grant trump administration this. Stuff,
However kavanaugh wrote separately in support of the, decision saying
that it was reasonable to briefly question people who meet
multiple quote common sense criteria for possible illegal, presence including
employment and day labor or construction and Limited english. Proficiency that's, Insane,

(01:46:33):
YEAH i, mean especially AFTER i watched him yelling ABOUT
pj and. SQUEE i don't think His english proficiency is
all that grave, Either, right maybe we should be Detaining Brett.

Speaker 4 (01:46:41):
Kavanaugh, also when do we use when does?

Speaker 2 (01:46:45):
Race?

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Race seems to be very interesting how it's used in the, court, Right,
right you can't use race for certain, things, right but
we're able to use race, here AND i just to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
End race for collegen. Mission. Right you can't use race
to try to level access to resources for equitable, distribution
but you can use it to detain people for being here. Illegally,
also his idea of like what's happening and what's actually
happening don't. Match he's talking about people being briefly. Questioned

(01:47:22):
imagine a situation where like that's the. Case if that
was what's, happening that's. Night it's kind of, like, yeah
cops walk up to, you, hey, man are you here?
Legally and you go, yeah and they go all, right carry.
On if it was, that, SURE i mean it's, annoying but,
sure that's not what's. Happening they're like walking, up going come.

(01:47:43):
Here they grab, them throw them in the, van take them.
Away if they've got, papers maybe they let them. Out
maybe maybe they. Don't there's all of these stories about
people who have been held for days and.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
Days american, Citizens american citizens and legal and people who
are here, legally oh.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
With, Status people with all kinds of reasons that this
should not be happening to them are being held for
days on and in, communicado cannot reach their, lawyers cannot
reach their, family nobody knows where they're. At they're, suffering you,
know these sleep deprivation, there they're being exposed to these
dangerous situations of too many people in unsafe, conditions not

(01:48:22):
being fed. Enough there's all of these stories and somehow
beer can breat's, like, well, yeah that's. Fine if they
eventually get, out then there's no, harm no. Foul. Yo
throw them in, there put them in the icebox for
a little. While let him see what it's like live
on one burrito a day for several. DAYS i, mean

(01:48:45):
this is.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
Crazy and that it's on the rocket docket is really the.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
Way it's almost, LIKE i, mean we'll probably look back
at this is the strategy that The trump appointed justices
And Donald trump used to enact all this.

Speaker 2 (01:49:00):
Stuff, yeah and and they're not unique in, this. Right
the rocket docket is. Demanding over the, years everybody seems
to like to use. This and you, know as we,
learned the court is not A, denny's but it is
open all the, time so we we do this is
just how they do. It this can come, back by the,
way it can come back up through the ninth and
it can come back to get a full hearing on
the merits and all of this, stuff which it likely.

(01:49:22):
Will but it does matter because now we're going to
talk About, chicago where they're doing the same. Thing so
they have got what do they call this stupid? Operation
they got a Dumb midwest.

Speaker 4 (01:49:32):
Something what's it called Blitz Midway, blitz which is Crazy Midway,
blitz which is crazy because the studio that actually CREATED Nfl.
Blitz i'm pretty sure It's midway's. Hilarious i'm pretty sure
that's the. Case there's no way they know that the
Whole i'm pretty double check That i'm not Just.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Midway so, basically they're they're sending ice to Ransacked. Chicago,
now this is the play. Book we talked about this
before this, happened before any of these things, HAPPENED i
talked about there is a standard fascist, playbook which is
that you go into an, area declare there to be
a crime, Emergency you detain the people that you don't,

(01:50:14):
like you provoke a, response and then you come with
a heavy handed crackdown on that. RESPONSE i, mean you're,
right who makes? It is It? Midway hold?

Speaker 4 (01:50:24):
On but, No i'm just saying this is that's the
playlist at The southlitary And.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Government that's exactly how they're doing. It so so here we, saw, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
They Make midway Makes blitz, Along, Yes Mortal kombat it,
yes of, course which when he said, IT i was like.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
BLITZ i was like that seems know then that seem so,
familiar very, familiar standing four wide shouldern's shoulders. Exactly. Kids
back in the late nineteen, hundreds we had things called.
Arcades we would go to to play video games and
each machine just had the one game in it and

(01:51:00):
you could play with your friends who also room is
you touching the same machine as you while you each
had a joystick and a couple of buttons and you
would play these games with each other or against each,
other and it was. Fun it was, great and when you,
won you got to rub it in their. Face when you,
lost you got to shove them and tell them to

(01:51:21):
shut the fuck up and don't rub it in your.
Face so, history different, Time, yeah better, times all. Right so,
yeah they're they're they're sending the the ice agents loose In.
Chicago The chicago people already don't like this. Idea they've
seen what's happened IN. Dc they seen what's happened In Los,

(01:51:42):
Angeles they've seen what's happened In texas And florida and
all these other. Places it's not a good. Idea the
people are gonna be, Mad they're gonna. React trump's gonna
send the guard despite the fact That pritzker hasn't asked for.
It he keeps Begging pritzker to ask him for the,
guard And printzker's, like if he he wants to come To,
chicago he's more than, Invited, Like i'll take him, around

(01:52:04):
we can show him the. Situation it's not what he
thinks that this guy lives in such a completely bizarre.
World he doesn't even know any of this stuff is
going or he doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
Care he's, no.

Speaker 3 (01:52:17):
It's to drum up again in this political.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Base, yeah but he's doing it for the purpose of perpetrating.
Violence and so this is the. Playbook we've seen, This
this isn't. New we don't have to rehash. That but
the question is what's gonna Happen now we've got the
court ruling saying that you can't do, this that it's
legal to do it IN. La we might get another
District court In chicago or surrounding Areas. Indiana maybe who

(01:52:43):
rules that you can't do it In? Chicago does that
go back to the rocket? Docket does it go up
to the to the? Circuit does that create the conflict
necessary for real hearing at The Supreme? Court does The
Supreme court have time to hear that they've already said
they're going to take on some of the case says
about the immigration raids in this session that they're they're

(01:53:03):
already gearing up. For you, know at this, point should
The Supreme court just stop having terms and actually become
A denny's.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Right, yeah, right forget the?

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
Terms, yeah like just be over, Right, yeah just just
be open and let's let's do.

Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
THIS i, mean at the rate that is administration, APPEALS i,
Mean I'M i doesn't seem to be that far.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
FETCHED i don't want to see troops In. CHICAGO i
don't want to see troops deployed Against americans. Anywhere BUT
i would bet maybe not next, week but by the
week after next when you see, us it'll be With
chicago under similar circumstances as us here in the. District

(01:53:52):
and you, know that's just What this is the country
that we're, in which gets us to the thing that
we unfortunately have to talk about this. Week AND i
do want to preface this by, saying Uh tesa's favorite,
line this is a young. Country, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:54:13):
And this is and this part of the being a
young country isn't. NEW i think it's not. New it's
new FOR i think it's more new for us in
our like in like and like the younger. GENERATION i
think that is a, yeah if you were growing up
through what the, forties the, fifties the, sixties the, seventies

(01:54:34):
that it's. More and then even prior to, THAT i
can still call off, like.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Oh, sure, yeah if you were, born if you were
alive and Like cognissant in the seventies or, earlier, right
the concept of political violence In america seems. Normal. Yeah
and when people, say, well this is not who we,

(01:55:01):
Are we're not a, country you, know we don't do
political violence in The United, states those people sound. Ridiculous
that's a. Lie this country is founded on. Violence on political,
violence particularly whether it is the wholesale destruction of the
people who originally lived, here whether it is the importation

(01:55:24):
of slave labor and the terrible repercussions that came after,
that whether it is the utter destruction of the environment
of this, country The Civil war, itself like you name.
It there's not a period In american history that isn't
loaded with political. Violence the fact that you're saying that

(01:55:47):
means that you personally maybe haven't experienced political, violence And
i'm very happy for, You but that is not the
story THAT i or ANYBODY i know has. Experienced have
you experienced political violence in your? Life M.

Speaker 4 (01:56:08):
I mean outside of like right, Now i'm trying to
think of well, yeah, no, yeah, yes oh, yeah Like
i'm trying to think deeper, back but, no just across, it,
yeah just in, general, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
Yeah, right that is that is a hallmark of difference the.

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
LEAST i, mean who else gives a few More we
could probably go Through I'm pelosi's.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
HUSBAND i, mean, like if you want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Through legislatures In. Minnesota who, yeah. Yeah you can certainly
Call Oklahoma, City oklahoma. Vio you can certainly Call waco political.
Violence you can certainly call the attack on The Pulse
nightclub In orlando political. Violence like what where are we?
Not what are you talking? About we don't do that this.
Time this is this country is founded on political, violence smallpox,

(01:56:57):
blankets For god's, SAKES i, mean what the? Fuck, Okay
so let's go over briefly Who Charlie kirk is and
why it matters that he got. Shot Charlie kirk Founded
Turning POINT. Usa it is basically a conservative youth group

(01:57:17):
that exists on college. Campuses it masquerades as defending free.
Speech they mean very specifically a certain kind of free.
Speech they are. Extremists he is an. Extremist he takes extreme.
Positions he has said some of the worst things that
you could possibly imagine a public figure. Saying he regularly

(01:57:41):
advocated for absolutely no. Abortions he famously said if he
had a ten year old daughter and she got, pregnant
that he would make her carry that. Pregnancy he does have,
children whether they're going to carry a pregnancy or not
still yet to be. Determined they're still too, young but
that's apparently where he stood on that. Issue he said
that he didn't want to get on a plane with

(01:58:02):
a black pilot because he'd worried whether that person was
A dei. Higher he said all kinds of things that
are like. That he also famously had an opinion on
whether gun deaths are acceptable or. Not AND i don't
know If. BRIAN i Hope brian was able to snatch

(01:58:25):
his video from the link THAT i sent a. Second
but what we want to do is play this this
thing before we then talk about kind of what we're you,
know what this means About Charlie. Kirk but in the
Meantime i'll read. This it's going to really depend on

(01:58:47):
what we know you know later about, this how this
all shakes, Out so just keep that in. Mind we
can condemn political violence and also say That Charlie kirk
was not a good. Person he was not a good,
person and he doesn't deserve to be rehabilitated in. Death
he stood for, violence he preached, violence and his efforts

(01:59:10):
cost the lives of thousands of people in The United
states and around the, world whether that's through anti trans
attacks or removing health care from, them or whether it's DISSOLVING,
usaid for which he is directly responsible because he helped
turn out the vote for The trump. Administration that is his.
Thing Charlie kirk was a merchant of, death scavenging millions

(01:59:33):
of dollars from his supporters as he led them in
a cult of violence and. Hatred that he pissed off
someone enough to take action is hardly, surprising and that
the guns are so available is of his own. Making
so without further, ado we'll go ahead and play the
video of him, saying in so many words that it's

(01:59:55):
okay for people to get shot if it means that
the people that he likes get to keep their. Guns
and be very clear about when he says gun ownership
and you, know gun rights and all that, stuff who
he means. That he doesn't mean that for. Us he
means that for him and the people like. Him all, Right,
brian you got the, video maybe, okay stand by here

(02:00:20):
we go. Standing i'm standing by the Way Greg abbott stands.
By oh, No god in a chair every. Week not
going to get.

Speaker 4 (02:00:38):
Done it will not.

Speaker 15 (02:00:42):
Happen you could significantly reduce. Them you're having more fathers
in the home by having more arm guards in front of.
Schools we should have an honest and clear reductionist view
of gun, violence.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
But we should not have a utopian.

Speaker 15 (02:01:02):
One you will never live in a society but even armed,
citizenry and you won't have a single gun.

Speaker 2 (02:01:06):
Death that is.

Speaker 15 (02:01:07):
Nonsense it's. Dribble BUT i AM i think IT'S i
think it's worth. IT i think it's worth to have
a cost of unfortunately some gun debts every single year
so that we can have The Second amendment to protect
our Other god given.

Speaker 2 (02:01:22):
Rights that is a prudent. Deal it is.

Speaker 15 (02:01:25):
Rational nobody talks like. This they live in a complete alternate.

Speaker 2 (02:01:29):
Universe, yes, YES i, AGREE i very strongly agree with
that weird man whose face looks like it was pinched
too deeply into his. Head, yes some gun deaths are
necessary to protect Our god given. Freedoms one of those
gun debts happens to have been. Him. FAFFO i GUESS

(02:01:54):
i don't know what else to say about. That all
these people who are out here talking about like that.
Slap what a. Guy this guy he was On Morning
edition today And Michelle martin was interviewing, him and he,
goes it's really important that we tamp down the political
violence in this, country and specifically from the, left and she, goes,

(02:02:15):
okay would you like to condemn the attacks on The
minnesota legislatures or you, know all of these other right
wing attacks that have happened very, Recently and he was,
like how dare? You this is why you're getting. Defunded you,
know my friend is dead and this is inappropriate for

(02:02:37):
you to ask about those. Things And Michelle martin was,
like you were the one that brought it, Up, Like
i'm just asking you if you want to like actually
bring it up or did you not mean the thing
that you? Said and he like started crying and spiraling,
out and so they literally just played him off the
radio and we're, like, okay see you later by and
just cut his mic and that was. IT i don't

(02:03:02):
want To i'm not out here saying that Like Charlie
kirk deserved to. Die i'm certainly not saying that at.
All i'm saying kind of the same thing THAT i
said about all of these other. Things if you touch
the stove and it's, hot hey, man you fucking knew.
That if you want there to be an armed, citizenry
as he, said if you want there to be easy

(02:03:22):
access to, guns if you think that those things protect your,
rights there may be some collateral damage and it might be.
You that's principally why a lot of us don't want
there to be so many, guns because it might be.

Speaker 4 (02:03:36):
Us AND i, mean you, KNOW i come on the
show a lot of, times AND i say that The
american public is ready for like a strong man rule,
Authoritarianism LIKE, i, well what if.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
There are people who are?

Speaker 2 (02:03:52):
Not? All?

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Right what if people there there are people who are, like,
oh this has gone too.

Speaker 2 (02:03:59):
Far.

Speaker 6 (02:04:01):
And they're the ones who. Voted they realized, it and
some and and unfortunately it's too late that It's the
sad thing is, that you, know hearing him saying THAT
i heard it earlier on another radio, show but hearing it,
again it seems like it's, like, dude really you because

(02:04:23):
again you were in a.

Speaker 11 (02:04:25):
Bubble that's the sad. Part they.

Speaker 6 (02:04:29):
Figure it's like they'll say all this stuff knowing for
well in their dumb ass minds that, oh this will
not happen to. Me it will happen to somebody else
far far, away but it won't happen to me Because
i'll be in my whatever chateau away from you, all
enjoying my, millions with my three billion kids and their

(02:04:50):
kids with multiple partners that aren't not going to be,
aborted and all that bullshit that he's been spewing.

Speaker 11 (02:04:56):
Out what freaking frustrates me is the fact that everyone
is this pro reactive.

Speaker 6 (02:05:05):
Ship it's, like why you keep reacting to something that
you could have fully Prevented and and again is it's
just all it is you want to continue to, cycle
and that's what that's what he kind of. Did he's
just another dude who fed him some bullshit and he's
just continuing in the. Cycle and, UNFORTUNATELY i, mean like you,

(02:05:26):
SAID i do not put type of this ill will on,
him but unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
You kind of deserve. This it's, sad but it's it. Happens,
also don't discount the money that's.

Speaker 5 (02:05:38):
Involved there's a huge amount of money, here amount of
money shoot out of your boat.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
Campaign he's a prolific. Fundraiser he's really been successful at
doing a lot of this. Stuff, look we don't know
why he got. Shot it could be that he slept
with the wrong guy's. Wife it could be, right it
could very well be something like. That that doesn't have
anything to do with. Politics the governor Of UTAH i,

(02:06:09):
think AND i think Generally Spencer cox is fairly, responsible respectable.
GUY i think it was irresponsible for him to say
this was politically motivated without actually knowing, that.

Speaker 11 (02:06:24):
And then that guy's still out there at. Large, Yeah
so then then here's.

Speaker 4 (02:06:30):
What happens when he comes out when he's like a
Huge republican, Donor then what do we, SAY i don't.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
Know look, here here's that's the. Problem there's no information
and so therefore there's a. Vacuum THE atf said that
they found the. Gun they said that they found a
bunch of stuff written on the shell. Casings then they
retracted that said that they didn't actually they can't verify
any of. That so THE fbi said they had somebody in.

(02:06:55):
Custody then they said that they let that person. Go
then they found another person that they then they let
that that person. Go Cash ptel can't see whether things
are coming or going.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
After to say that they captured, somebody, right.

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
Well they but also like he just got there To.
Utah here this is this is the thing that THE
fbi is the best. At, right it's something huge like this.
Happens THE fbi is really good at investigating and figuring this.
Out the problem is the special agent in charge of
The Salt Lake city. Office she got fired because she's

(02:07:31):
a woman and refused to Kiss trump's ass or. WHATEVER
a lot of THE fbi agents who might be otherwise
working this case were reassigned to go through The epstein
files AND sharpi Out Donald trump's, name come To washington
and spread mulch. Around go a company ice agents In

(02:07:55):
Los angeles to go round up people at seven. Elevens
the capacity of THE fbi to actually figure this out
is greatly. Diminished this happens in the same week that
three former high ranking members of THE, fbi including an acting,
director are Suing Cash pattel and THE fbi for hiring

(02:08:16):
them illegally because they wouldn't take a loyalty oath to the.
President so the, expertise the organizational, structure the capacity of
The Federal bureau Of investigations to do a federal investigation
are wildly depleted at the time that they're needed, most

(02:08:39):
they have less. Capacity let's also throw into their THE
atf they lost twenty percent of their. Staff THE atfs
is critically important if it's going to come down to
tracing things by. Looking the only piece of, information as
far AS i know for, sure that they've got is
the bullet that's inside Of Charlie kirk's. Neck the rest

(02:08:59):
of this they said they had a. Gun maybe they
had a gun thirty odd SIX i guess it was
a thirty odd six. Base on the, distance that's not rocket.
Science i'm pretty sure everybody guess that we can speculate
this is one hundred and fifty. Yards gotta be pretty
good shot to hit anything in one hundred and fifty. Yards,
yeah you got to know your way around that particular
type of. Weapon both actions probably pretty good for this

(02:09:22):
because because you, know you can keep track of your
shells and it's, slow, methodical, heavy you, know it's very.
Steady why deer hunters like. Them but this looks to
me like somebody who's military or former. Military clearly an
operator knows how to cover their, tracks knows how to
get the stuff in position without alerting a lot of,
suspicion knows how to get out of there without alerting

(02:09:42):
a lot of. Suspicion, certainly a very good shot at
that kind of a distance like that spells operator to.
Me doesn't mean that's. True could be somebody who just
spent all their weekends shooting off their. TRACTOR i don't,
know you. Know and then there's then there's all of
this Other there's a lot of a room for bullshit in,
there AND i want to really not let we're not

(02:10:03):
gonna use our airwaves to talk about. It but there
is this, rampant wild speculation about who done it and
where is a lot of speculation coming. From it's coming
from The White. House you Got trump out here Blaming,
democrats blaming the left whatever that means for this, thing
without any evidence. Whatsoever they're blaming transgender people without any evidence.

(02:10:24):
Whatsoever they're Blaming god knows. Who it could be accelerationists
trying to kick off this. War it could have been
a right wing. Extremist it could have been The booloo.
Boys it could have Been Alex. Jones who's man That
charlie kirkstill has a job and he does. It who.
Knows but it's totally irresponsible for people to speculate about,

(02:10:47):
it and it's even more irresponsible for people in authority
to be speculating about.

Speaker 11 (02:10:52):
THAT i want to throw this out. There if you
take The, john The JOHN.

Speaker 6 (02:11:00):
F kennedy assassination and put it in today's media, situation you,
know media, climate think of think just think about. That
how you know How Lee Lee oswall would have gotten
either caught or may he not have and he was caught,

(02:11:22):
eventually mind YOU I i you KNOW i saw the
documentary where he it was within minutes in a, sense you,
Know i'm over, speculating it was about a couple of.
Hours but but just think of the, fact it's like
if if, leslie he wasn't, caught kind of like we're in.
It we are, now we don't know who this guy,
is we don't know how he's. Affiliated but again just

(02:11:44):
the just that little gap of of where we throw
in that over speculating bs and we don't Know.

Speaker 11 (02:11:54):
Jack all we knew is Like kirk got Shot, okay
where do we get.

Speaker 4 (02:12:03):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (02:12:04):
Exactly And fox has twenty four hour COVERAGE son AND.

Speaker 6 (02:12:07):
Abc and and the and the and the unfortunate thing
is it's like there, was like you, said the the
The Colorado high school that got you, know got shot up,
again or there is other issues that were going. On
this is the sad part about how twenty four hour
media has gone to absolutely and it and it's because,

(02:12:30):
again when you do not have proper information from anyone within,
it let's say seconds you and you're filling in with
the whole bunch of bullshit that again you're fueling those
who are you know again support, him and that all
does anger them even. More it's, like why are we getting? Different,

(02:12:52):
oh it is, Them it's then it is the, Left
it's is?

Speaker 2 (02:12:54):
That and Especially ai is added a wait till that was. Part.

Speaker 6 (02:13:01):
Yeah but the, sad real sad part is when you
get it from The White house and you get it
from the fat buck in a damn, chair who again
he doesn't Know, jack and it's just, like what do
you got to? Say just SAY i feel sorry if
we say you're that sorry s video you put out
there and call it a day and just let the
suppose the people who had actual jobs to do do their.

(02:13:22):
Jobs but unfortunately you pretty much fired him because of whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:13:27):
Reason it's you, know we've seen a responsible way to
handle some of these things where there is an information
vacuum where you do see elected officials or whoever saying
things like we're gonna let the investigation play. OUT i
MEAN i even, Recently i'm thinking about The New orleans
attack where you, know the police chief kind of stepped

(02:13:49):
in it a little bit by saying what she, said
and then the actual you, know THE fbi and everybody
else had to come in and be, like we're gonna
follow the. Investigation we'll let you know when we have
any real. Information it's important for. Everybody if you know,
anything come forward and let us. Know but, otherwise we
don't want to speculate on this and just not talk
about it until you've got some real concrete. Information, yeah

(02:14:10):
the public wants to. Know it's okay to go out
there and have a press conference and say we haven't
got any new. Information if you know, anything say, something
here's the tip, line see you. Later like it can
be that you might have to do. That it's. Unsettling
nobody likes that, response but it's the right thing to.
DO i, again like this a parenting, thing, right you,
know if you've got, kids everybody's been in this. Situation

(02:14:33):
something goes a little. Sideways it could be a minor,
thing but the kids are, like, hey what's. Happening what's,
happening and you don't know, Yet so you tell them
you just need to be. Patient when we get all the,
information we'll let you. Know that's how you handle. That
as an, adult to be out here speculating or spewing
or blaming is totally. IRRESPONSIBLE i want to point out
that the day After kirk got, shot a dozen HBCUs

(02:14:58):
got credible threats and how the. Lockdown The Naval academy
In annapolis had the. LOCKDOWN i don't know how many
other things had the lockdown just. TODAY i know that
elementary schools across this region are practicing their lockdown drills this,
week that that's even a thing that we have to.
Do this country is on edge and it's it's gonna

(02:15:21):
take next to nothing to tip. It because the way
that people react to this stuff is. Crazy and number
one in crazy reaction is the man in. Charge these
guys want a. War they're gonna get a, war whether
they have to shoot their own people to do it
or whether they have to to blame somebody. Else they

(02:15:43):
want this acceleration to take. Place and and you, Know
i'm the crazy one with the. Radios i'm the crazy
one with the with the holding all the material and
trying to be ready for. This but this gets us
closer another week where like some crazy shit is, Happening
it gets us. CLOSER i, mean it gets us.

Speaker 4 (02:16:03):
CLOSER i lean towards that back to the the news cycle.

Speaker 3 (02:16:10):
That does this blow over? Too LIKE i, mean and,
no no one believes that.

Speaker 4 (02:16:16):
Like there was a Assassination trump attempts On, trump but
those blew. Over AND i wonder if the cycle then
moves so fast that is this even a story in
five weeks or.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
In the middle of a government?

Speaker 3 (02:16:31):
Shutdown you might be.

Speaker 2 (02:16:33):
RIGHT i, DON'T i.

Speaker 4 (02:16:34):
DON'T i don't. Know if, ANYTHING i don't think it
moves anybody, anymore, like which is very weird to.

Speaker 11 (02:16:40):
Me and it's almost it's, like, well it depends on
the back.

Speaker 6 (02:16:44):
Word that's the key, thing because if you think about,
it you you'll Probably fox scenes will keep talking about. It,
yeah probably whatever you, know all you're right will be
talking about, it or far right. Talk we'll talk continue
to talk about. It as for let's, say a sensible
news media. Cycle, yeah this we've been, Like, okay this.
Happened still no new. Information let's go on to the next. Story,

(02:17:10):
yeah that's what's.

Speaker 3 (02:17:10):
Going To that might a healthcare? Ceo, right and what's your?

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
Name like that one was huge during the, time, Right
and and when's the last time we talked about.

Speaker 2 (02:17:20):
That, well there's a story on the radio just this
week about somebody wrote a musical About LUIGI mangioi, right,
yeah but like we're not talking LIKE i AND i
think the same happens.

Speaker 4 (02:17:31):
HERE i have A i have a belief that there's
so much that there's so much information that is being
consumed that nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:17:43):
STICKS i don't know nothing. STICKS i don't think this sticks.

Speaker 2 (02:17:46):
Either each thing is the next major development and not
the last thing off the. Charts you're right to to
think about.

Speaker 4 (02:17:54):
THAT i felt like that Since, ukraine like sin or
even even though Since afghanistan you.

Speaker 2 (02:18:00):
Called that correctly every. TIME I i Just i'm not
saying this. Sticks i'm saying that that for as far
as throwing gas on the, fire it is that and
it's not.

Speaker 4 (02:18:12):
Good the only way it does is that like this sounds,
crazy but like if there's anything that's coordinated across multiple like,
states like that's that's because then your then you tap
in on. Fear AND i, THINK i don't know if
people are afraid yet like this has. HAPPENED i don't

(02:18:33):
know if people are afraid to the point WHERE, i,
oh we're gonna like Bat like.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
If GROUP a is able to convince themselves That GROUP
b has perpetrated the thing and they start going at
it across multiple locations with maybe individuals who affiliate with
these groups individually without any central. Direction let's say The
Proud boys decide that the trans activists did, this and

(02:19:01):
The transactivists decided that The Proud boys did and they
start picking at each other and taking, shots literal shots
at each, other you, know across five or six different.
Locations we do have a real problem on.

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
It, YEAH i think then you.

Speaker 2 (02:19:15):
DO i just.

Speaker 4 (02:19:16):
DON'T i don't know if one The american people have
the stomach for, that like they like they like revolution and.

Speaker 2 (02:19:25):
THEORY i don't think they LIKE i don't think.

Speaker 4 (02:19:28):
Outside of the theory and like them inserting themselves into their,
own like their own drama that they kind of like
people want to be like the main characters and like
the drama of like whatever the country.

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
Is AND i find that to be a little.

Speaker 4 (02:19:43):
Disturbing but like when it comes down to, REALITY i
just don't know if anybody really LIKE i don't think
anybody is really like bout it like that to be more,
SUCCINCT i don't. KNOW i don't think The american people
are REALLY i think what they want to do is
go and buy, stuff AND i think they want to
go and eat, out AND i think they want to
go and like go on vacations with their. FAMILIES i

(02:20:06):
think that's that's still What americans want to. Do AND
i don't think there's Enough americans who like.

Speaker 3 (02:20:14):
Like revolution and like we're.

Speaker 4 (02:20:16):
HERE i don't believe it comes to.

Speaker 2 (02:20:18):
That BUT i don't think it needs to be very.
MANY i think you need small, groups ten or fifteen
at a time looking for trouble causing. Problems and our
infrastructure is so, vulnerable our institutions are so. Vulnerable the
overall understanding of government and civics is so lacking that

(02:20:40):
it is so easy to.

Speaker 11 (02:20:43):
Cause the word it's not, lacking it's it is non.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
Existent it's not, existent and it's an intentional. Thing it's
been intentionally not taught to hold several generations because they
don't want us to understand how governance, works because because
then it's easier to take advantage and keep you, know
class warfare from breaking. Out but at some point or, another,

(02:21:10):
LOOK i Don't i'm not saying That Charlie kirk, assassination
if it is that is the catalyst for. Anything it's probably.
Not we'll probably move on from. This but we've got
a stagflation crisis on our hands. Currently AND i know
that this show loves to pretend that we're, economists but
that is a very serious. Problem the jobs market is

(02:21:33):
cratering around. Us unemployments ticking, up first time claims are ticking.
Up we are seeing inflation is. Growing there's going to
be a rate cut despite, that because the job thing
is more pressing than the. Inflation what do you do about.
That it's artificial. Inflation there's A it may not be
correctable in the way that regular inflation can be corrected,

(02:21:56):
by like the markets rebalancing and. Restabilizing we may not
be able to correct this because of the damage in
the relationships of the trading that's done in the. World
the middle class is being squeezed by every possible side
you can. Imagine whether it's in terms of their economic,
mobility whether it's in terms of housing, prices whether it's

(02:22:19):
in terms of lack of, jobs whether it's in terms
of cost of. Living all of these things are. Squeezing
the access to, power the access to, education all of
these things creates a. Pressure and when there is that,
pressure it is easy for, demagogues cults insert problem group

(02:22:39):
here to grab. Hold and because of the ubiquity of,
guns the ease of, communication the mass communication of The,
internet the, videos THE ai pick your. Thing it's a
force multiplier for. Mayhem and it doesn't take a whole
state acting. Out it now takes ten to fifteen. People you,

(02:23:02):
Know If tim McVeigh had had the internet and video
the way that there is now on, phones The Oklahoma
city bombing would have been the first of, dozens if not,
more because it would have been able to connect with
more people who had similar fears and similar, mindsets and
they would have been able to coordinate and make make

(02:23:23):
an attack that the authorities weren't ready.

Speaker 4 (02:23:25):
FOR i, MEAN i don't argue that all of this
ends in. VIOLENCE i feel Like i've mentioned that. BEFORE
i guess this not That i'm wishing, that but, yeah
obviously this ends in some sort of.

Speaker 2 (02:23:40):
Violence but it's.

Speaker 3 (02:23:41):
It it's what is the day? After what does that look?
Like and what choices do we make As.

Speaker 2 (02:23:48):
Americans i'm already to even worry to think about, that
to be, honest because here's the other. Problem it's who's
in charge at the time that the violence takes, place
and what is the React if the violence happens and
the reaction is an absolute fascist crackdown day after it doesn't.

(02:24:09):
Matter we're not gonna make it to the day. After
and and if it's some sort of major fascist crackdown
or a breakdown or some sort of vastly more chaotic
situation than what we have, Now i'm not worried about
what's the next version of government that we set up
in The United. States i'm worried about how AM i gonna?
Eat you, know and Then i'm gonna have to be

(02:24:31):
barbecuing my neighbor or Whatever alexchillans was on, about like
it is gonna be Flat, why, yes it's it's, uh you,
know and then then day after it doesn't. Matter it's.

Speaker 4 (02:24:43):
Academic as a consumer, SOCIETY i just it's hard to.

Speaker 3 (02:24:51):
Think and not saying they can't get, there it's.

Speaker 4 (02:24:53):
Just it's built all this is built on the consumer
going outside and buds and and and AND i.

Speaker 2 (02:25:03):
Think it's like the corporate deep state won't allow this to, happen.

Speaker 4 (02:25:06):
Right that's Where i've always thought That i've Always i've
always thought the corporate deep, state the bankers In china
would be like hold on all, right wait wait wait, wait.

Speaker 2 (02:25:15):
But what's their. Mechanism that's the thing, is, like how
do they how do they tamp it? Down how do
they stop? It you've got these people who believe in these,
things like they're waiting FOR Jfk junior to show up In.
Dallas what? Commerce how Does walmart control?

Speaker 4 (02:25:29):
That, yeah it's a great it's a great.

Speaker 3 (02:25:31):
Question it's a great. Question all these. Warlocks we're almost that.

Speaker 2 (02:25:40):
Season maybe maybe uh, yeah you know, what never, Mind
i'm all, Right, uh let's do some quick run. Down
this is WHERE i tell you about some stuff that's
gone out in the. News we can skip the sound.
Effect just try to get out of here on, time all.
Right so The South koreans were working illegally In, georgia
despite the fact that The georgians clearly invited them, there

(02:26:02):
and they had all these economic deals as a Giant
hundai plant shocking full Of koreans and these small mostly technical.
EXPERTS i think that we're there training up The americans
who would ultimately end up taking over for them when
they went back. Home so that's pretty much just how
foreign investment. WORKS i don't know why anybody doesn't know

(02:26:24):
that if The americans go build a factory in some,
country you, know some contingent Of american management hangs around
until they can get the locals up to, speed, right
and then they go home or they go on to
the next. Thing why why wouldn't it work the other?
Way and Then trump turned around and he's, like, yeah,
well actually we do want them to stay and train our,

(02:26:46):
people so maybe maybe bring them back or something like.
It these guys are so out of their league when
it comes to managing an economy or an immigration system or.
Whatever it's all just so self serving and.

Speaker 4 (02:26:59):
Stupid, YEAH i thought you you elect this guy because
he knows how to run a. Business you want to
Run america like a.

Speaker 2 (02:27:05):
Business, right all your talent and uh and and scare
off all of your potential other. Talent crazy. Crazy never
seen a business run by firing all the. People they
know how to run the, business. Right all, right let's
run Into paul real. Quick you get a.

Speaker 3 (02:27:22):
Fire it's being a.

Speaker 2 (02:27:23):
Fire who aces for that? One all. Right nepal is
a is a country sandwich Between india And china in
the mountains there in The Himalaya. Mountains it's it's pretty
high up in the. Air their capital is a place Called,
katmandu which is a cool thing to. Say the population is,

(02:27:44):
huge you don't know how many people live in The,
paul but it's a, lot a lot more than you.
Think and also they're very, poor like really really really really,
poor so poor that they love to send their people
TO un peacekeeper jobs because they get paid for.

Speaker 1 (02:28:02):
Them.

Speaker 2 (02:28:03):
Yeah, also the food From nepal is. GREAT i happen
to know several People nippleese people who AND i love
getting invited to their house because their food is. Fantastic
and there's a few restaurants around, here SO i highly
recommend you go and eat their. Food, however the country
hit a bit of a rough, spot you could. Say

(02:28:26):
basically the elites in the, country The Prime minister and
all of the sort of governing. Elites they have a
lot of money and they're living a rich. Life their
kids are posting On instagram pictures of themselves With Louis
Vuitton christmas, trees and the rest of the country is, like,
yo we're eating. Dirt fuck that. Nonsense and they're, like

(02:28:46):
give us some. Stuff and the rich people were like,
no and so they're, like have you seen Lay Miz
and they go. No they go, great let's do, it
and then they Lay. Missdom so they kicked out all
these people and they burned everything to the. Ground all
of the capital's on. Fire they burned the, parliament they
burned the prime, ministers. Everything it was really very, cinematic,

(02:29:10):
Right so the army showed up in the army was,
like all, right all, right everybody calmed, down and you,
know for the most, part everybody calmed, down and the
army was, like all, right who's in charge of this?
Operation so we can figure out how to put them
in charge of run in the, country so we can
go back to doing whatever the fuck it is we
do where we don't have to run this. Country and
the protesters, like we haven't got a. Leader they, go

(02:29:32):
what do you mean you haven't got a? Leader they,
go we never got around to. That we're just still,
like you, know burning. Things they're, like, well don't burn anything,
anymore and who can we talk to and they, go
m the. Mayor they go the. Mayor he, goes, yeah
he used to be a. Rapper now he's a. Mayor
and they're like that doesn't sound like a good person
to talk. To and they're, like oh, no, no, no he's.
Fine you should hear his. Songs so then they talked

(02:29:54):
to the, mayor and that's where we're. At now there's
a whole country with nobody in, charge which is. Fine
if you look a little south of. There here's our
handy Dandy. Glovia, right we're having like this is like
the war in the. World Is Carmen San, diego chip.
Chat Here's. Nepal, right it's a little little green one,

(02:30:16):
there all. Right look a little bit south of there
and you get or east. Too you get this little
tiny purple Guy, bangladesh which is full of way more
people than you think for such a tiny. Country they
also had a similar. Situation they ran their prime minister.
Out she fled To, india and the students who ran

(02:30:40):
the protest they got A nobel laureate economist to run
the show, nominally but they basically appointed themselves like civil.
Society so one of them was, Like, Hey i'm gonna
go pick up. Trash anybody want to help, Me and
like a bunch of them went to go, out and they're, like,
hey this, traffic look it's pretty. Bad and one of

(02:31:01):
them is, Like i'll go direct. Traffic and they just
go appointed themselves crossing guards and stood in the middle
of the street and started like directing, traffic and they
basically still a year later after their, coup are kind
of like running the show with no. Leader they're just
kind of like making stuff up as they. Go it's not,
great not, stable not how you want countries with several

(02:31:25):
hundred million people in them to run right right next
to two big economic powers with a billion.

Speaker 4 (02:31:33):
People, exactly it's no way that goes.

Speaker 2 (02:31:36):
Bad, Crisis what could?

Speaker 4 (02:31:38):
Happen what could?

Speaker 2 (02:31:40):
Happen so you, know stay tuned on. That there's A
Bob seeker song about going To katman do maybe we'll
listen to that. Later and then in the Most chipchat
story of the, week we did briefly talk about how
the falling jobs numbers are becoming a bit of a.
Problem But i'm gonna assume because she's A fed, governor tes's.
Hero do you have LIKE fed governor training cards or.

Speaker 4 (02:32:05):
Something, yeah you, know it's Like Lisa, cook But Raphael,
bostick who's my man as As that's that's what's one up.

Speaker 2 (02:32:15):
There you know why people tune into the, show it's
because we have Favorite fed.

Speaker 3 (02:32:19):
Government that's, sick.

Speaker 2 (02:32:23):
That is, sick and soon Soon i'll have. None. Yeah
so all, right so what's going on with the doctor?

Speaker 3 (02:32:32):
Cook, WELL i understand, it, right didn't uh peel? Judge was?

Speaker 4 (02:32:38):
It was it say she could stay in her? Role
fired and she shouldn't have. Been, WELL i don't even
know if he can fire, her to be, honest nobody really.

Speaker 2 (02:32:48):
Knows but she's currently at her job and is gonna
be able to vote on the rate uh? Adjustment if
there is gonna be, one.

Speaker 3 (02:32:57):
There's gonna there's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (02:32:58):
One, yeah there. Is it's gonna be. One the markets
have already priced that in and did a whole bunch
of rising today as a. Result uh. Yeah so, basically
THE fed exists outside of the executive. Branch they're an independent.
Thing they were specifically set up By congress to be
independent so that presidents can't use THE fed to cheat

(02:33:22):
at the economy, essentially and Uh trump doesn't care about.
That so he's, like, Yo i'm gonna fire her because
she's a black. Woman and they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa
and he, goes, no, NO i mean mortgage. Fraud and
then they're, like are you sure you want to be
the one to be like calling people out from mortgage.
Fraud he's, like WHAT i was convicted of business. Fraud that's.

(02:33:43):
Different and they, go, no it's, not that's the same.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
Thing you know HOW i know you just fraud fraud.

Speaker 2 (02:33:51):
BECAUSE i do.

Speaker 16 (02:33:52):
Fraud nobody frauds like. Me i'm invested. Fraud this guy
came up to, me big, guy's tall, guy strong. Guy
he had tears in his. Eyes he Was he, said, sir,
SIR i can middle lot of. Fraud you you do
the best, fraud all the best.

Speaker 2 (02:34:02):
Fraud many people are. Saying many people are, saying uh,
yeah so she's still got her job kind. OF i don't.
Know here's the funny thing. Though the guy who is
doing all the mortgage fraud prosecuting ahead of the Like

(02:34:23):
Federal housing something, something his name Is pulti and uh
he And Scott bessont had a good time over the.
Weekend they they were both invited to the the new
Like Trump club In georgetown in the Old Georgetown. Park oh,
yes and they had a, fistfight which is. Great uh.

(02:34:49):
Yeah bessont like walks up to him and he, GOES i,
hear are you talking shit about me to the boss
and and pot he, goes so what IF i? Am
he Goes i'm gonna punch in your fucking. Face that's
a direct. Quote and, uh the and the they were like,
no they tried to like break it, up and he
and the owner was, like why don't we go outside
and best and, goes why SO i can whoop his,
ass you, know like it got into a whole, thing

(02:35:10):
and uh, yeah you, know standard behavior for cabinet. Officials
just look that one up in your spare, time like
why Is scott fighting WITH?

Speaker 4 (02:35:22):
Polti this is moved.

Speaker 3 (02:35:24):
From The Trump hotel that is no longer there.

Speaker 2 (02:35:26):
To to this club in The Georgetown Park. Mall crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:35:33):
Real.

Speaker 2 (02:35:33):
Mall it was a real, mall real mall mall In, georgetown.

Speaker 4 (02:35:37):
The real mall with like a water fountain in the
middle of, it in the middle of, it in a food.
Court it was it was it's.

Speaker 3 (02:35:43):
Hard to explain that the.

Speaker 2 (02:35:44):
PEOPLE i liked.

Speaker 3 (02:35:46):
It what's?

Speaker 4 (02:35:47):
There bad?

Speaker 2 (02:35:48):
Mall And and WHEN i, was you, know on the crew,
team we were rolling out Of, toms it was right,
there so we could finish rowing and then like you,
know head up to the mall and hang out because
it was the nineties and that's what we did because
that was how kids behave never. Mind, okay fucking kids
on their metro all, right who, well we did, It

(02:36:10):
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(02:36:54):
everybody get you on the socials therecaus.

Speaker 3 (02:37:02):
No one.

Speaker 4 (02:37:10):
You can find me.

Speaker 2 (02:37:15):
Making sure that people stay sick, fantastic all, right when
you're not drinking raw. Milk you can find me ON
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Speaker 4 (02:37:45):
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Speaker 2 (02:37:47):
Listen to us on a rebroadcast On, SATURDAY i. Believe uh,
so you, know check that. Out Happy birthday to Our,
trump the good one he's celebrating for a couple of.
Weeks hopefully he's stubbering enough to hear, this but he definitely.
Not he deserves. It let him have some, time all,

(02:38:09):
right and uh, yeah we'll be back next. WEEK i
think next week we've got a. GUESS i believe we're
gonna be talking About emmy's With. Charlie oh, good let
me have a week Go, no not, quite but, yeah
and the VMA's just, happened So i'm sure we'll ask
him about that, Too so there'll be all kinds of
things to talk about there that are maybe a little.
Lighter so hopefully that'll be better for.

Speaker 3 (02:38:31):
Us we'll see, again don't tempt the.

Speaker 2 (02:38:33):
NEWS i hate to bet your.

Speaker 1 (02:38:36):
Quote all, Right, Uh i'm if that's Test brian somewhere
in the, background you've been listening to chimp chat On
Beltway radio and.

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Beyond if we, famous we can give a shout out
To brian to get a sound on some this what
he'd be trying the show is like a cust of
feathered eddy and that knows. Words how can we stay
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